Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - LIL DICKY: MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 213

Episode Date: April 2, 2023

We haven't had a Dave since the one and only Miami Portnoy. Rapper, comedian, and actor, Lil Dicky been a viral sensation since the rollout of his first hit single "Ex-Boyfriend" in 2013, and has since released multiple successful albums and singles, including "Freaky Friday" featuring Chris Brown and "Earth" featuring numerous celebrity cameos. He's also known for his comedic talent, which he often incorporates into his music videos, live performances, and hit TV show loosely based on his own life and experiences, "Dave". We dive into his process and journey from going out on a limb and spending his bar mitzvah money on music videos to working with legends like Snoop Dogg.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mworthofgame

Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Right. Yeah, you see what's going on, man. Another episode. Dave. Let me do it this time.

You're now tuned into m-min-min-min-min-min-min-min. You're doing it wrong, man. A million dollars worth for game. See, he's a loser. We got a machine that does that. But for some reason, he don't. I don't want to push the button. I don't want to push the machine.

He wants to say it. Because people know my voice and how it sounds like. You're now tuned into me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, million dollars worth a game. See, that sounds like a computer. That's, you know, some AI shit going. I don't know what's going on now. You know what I'm saying? But we got my man right here, Philly's on, a little dicky.

Now, it's very happy to be here. No, we're fans of the program. We appreciate that, man. You know, I like that you said program. That makes it bigger. Yeah. Makes it vast. Now, you know, a lot of people don't know back in the day, you know, you did a go fund me for $100,000.

Kickstarter, but it's essential. The same thing like, and what made you do that? I mean, I didn't have money. I was, I basically, here's long story short, I was working at an ad agency, I had spent my bar mitzvah money on, on, it was like $6,000 on my first music videos, like three of them, $2,000 a pop. Back then? 2000? Shit, that's a lot. I was in San Francisco and I was like, who's doing the rap videos in Oakland?

I found this guy, Brian Storm, totally changed my life. Like, such a valuable asset to me early in my career. Great dude, love him. And I only had six grand saved. And like, I had a job, but like the way my, I was getting paid to $36,000 a year. Like, after taxes and rent in San Francisco, I was making like $200 profit a month.

You know what I mean? So I had this money that I spent, I was like, I'm going to go for it, and I hope it, hopefully it works, and I did, but then I had no money. But what I did was, I created enough content over the first, like, I worked on the stuff off to the side while I was at my job for like two years. So I had videos done, made that I wasn't putting out. I waited until I had five months worth of weekly releases. Every week, I could put something new out, and only then did I put something out for the first time. and then

it went viral right away which was the best day of my life was the first day I put my first music video out because you know I met all my friends and parents they were like you're crazy you want to be a rapper

and when I put it out and it got like a million two million views a day the first day and like the next day I'm like in my cube at work taking an interview from the Harvey guy on TMZ

from my cube it was like the ultimate I told you so a moment and then I get well I don't know if not necessarily early the labels did they come but then like every week I had something new for five months and then by the end of that five month period I had like 50,000 followers or whatever on Twitter and then three I just always knew Kickstarter is such an incredible platform and I thought if you know these people are if they like what I'm doing and they're real fans if three thousand of them gave $20 it's like a life changing amount of money so I had a goal of like 70. thousand dollars that was my Kickstarter goal and three thousand people that's all gave an average of like forty thousand dollars or forty dollars i should say and then i got a hundred and i think thirteen

thousand dollars and that's a life-changing amount of money and i was able to quit my job and move to l.A and make more videos and get guys like snoop to be yeah that professional rapper video was how much did that cost i feel like it honestly i'm that was a cartoon video i think it costs between $20,000 and $30,000. God damn. And it was a 5-minute video, so it was long. It was long, yeah. So do, like now when you see, you know, people like, you know, screaming out for help,

like, you know, I'm trying to get my music career started. I need some funding. Do you find yourself dropping a little 40 in there for them, too? Oh, I would, yeah. I always said, like, everyone should do a Kickstarter at some point. I don't think people pay attention to it no more like it was when you got on it. It was big crowdfunding. was big back then

But now it's like You're right It kind of has gone It's died down Ain't nobody talking about The fucking crowd funding no more You're right, they don't Yeah

And you know what's so crazy I was in a space where I didn't even know It was ever crowd Crowdfunding What? I never even kind Like I was like

In my brain I was like yeah And I'll get a fan base And then I'll do a Kickstarter Yeah And see what money I can raise Because how What else am I going to do

Like I'm not gonna I like wasn't real like Artist did I didn't have like Proper like I wasn't signed to a towel agency. I just, like, wanted to, I didn't want to go on tour. I didn't even have the band

with their infrastructure to do it. And I thought, I don't even know that I need it. But if your Kickstarter fails, it fails. And, you know, you wasted some time and energy, but you don't really lose much out of it. Yeah, you don't. But nobody really put it out there. It's funny that we even saying them, because they, their branding and they, they ain't been out there lately. You don't, I don't even see it no more. You are right. I wonder what happened. It's probably still there. It's probably still there. I've seen more GoFund me lately than Kickstarter. Yeah, GoFund me. Yeah, GoFund me. Yeah, you. Right. I don't know if the name, that name, or they bought them up or something, but I'm going to look into that now.

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I thought, well, truthfully, my whole life I wanted to be. be a comedian. That's like what I've always wanted to do my whole life since I was a kid. I was like I got to be like nothing makes me happier than making people love. How can I how can I you know I don't think like guys like Adam Sandler or like Larry David or Seth Rogan begin as anything other than everyone's funny friend which is like what I felt like I was like I got consistent feedback no matter where I went like you're funny and I was like I love this I want to how can I do that so my initial goal with Lil Dickie really when I started to do it was was more like I'm

going to try to get noticed for being funny and like maybe like the South Park guys see one video and bring me into their world and then I meet someone there and then but rapping really for me it was like a sport where like the more time you put into it the better you get you know what I mean and don't get me wrong being a rapper of course is a dream for me as a kid but it's like not one that felt feasible right it was like truly like the equivalent of playing in the NBA I love playing basketball I never really like like went hard at playing in the NBA because it just felt totally impractical and so when I became a rapper it really was because I felt like my NBA is comedy.

Like, how can I end? But then the rapping just got better and better to the point where I, like, in my heart, feel like I can rap better than anybody. And so, which is an incredible feeling. And so I wanted to, like, really pursue that independent of comedy. And, you know, obviously a lot of my songs have comedic bones to them. But the things I'm the most proud of are the ones that have none, no comedic bones in them whatsoever. And I'm just rapping and being good.

You know? It's major. And it's hard to be good. Yeah. When there's so many people that are happening. So when you stand out... It's hard. When did you know, like, the first time, like, okay, this shit is real.

Was it the very first time you put your video out? It had to be. That day, like, I don't know how a day... I mean, maybe if I have, like, a kid and that's, like, a life-changing day, but I don't know how a day could be more impactful than that day because, like, truly, imagine your whole life feeling like... you're a star with nothing to base it on at all. Really, it's kind of a...

And that day. And working for two years on that, maybe stardom, hoping for just any sign of like, oh, maybe if I get... Some light. Maybe if I get like 100,000 views on one video over the first two years, like, I'll be like, that'll be enough to keep me going. Like, my parents and my girlfriend at the time sat me down two months before I put anything out.

Say, stop this shit? They said, we think you're making a mistake here. And, like, so everyone in my life was like, you're kind of like, I'm like a little worried about your mental health. Is you all right? Is you on drugs? Yeah, exactly. What's going on with Dave? Like, I haven't seen him lately because I was like in my closet, literally my closet, recording a mixtape.

And so for that day, for that day to post like, oh, they thought Dave was on shrooms. Yeah, he's getting high. Yeah, he's on that. We got, we got to have intervention. We got to have intervention, Dave. We know what you're doing, Dave. He was snapping on him. He was like, oh, he's like, what, I'm upstairs rapping.

Like, Dave's, Dave's using drugs, I'm telling me, he's on some drugs. I mean, in the mirror that morning, the day I was posting, before I posted, I'm not, like, necessarily the most emotional guy. And I'll cry, like, during the emotional parts of movies, but, like, in my day-to-day life, I'm so, like, focused on the tasks at hand that I don't really, like, reflect. I swear to you, I was brushing my teeth that morning, and I started crying tears of joy before anything was even released, just because, like, I knew, like, well, I, like, gave it my all. I like if this doesn't work out it's not my fault I like did the best I could possibly do to put myself in a position where like if the cream can rise it's going to rise here and if not it's so be it but it's not

going to be my fault I can live with failure I can't live with like what if I couldn't be like 40 and be like what if I tried to be a rapper so that day I was just so relieved independent of success that I had like done it and then for that very day to like immediately I'm talking like post it boom all day I'm afraid like new comment every second yeah like couldn't i refreshing new comment like 10 comments a second two million views by the time i wake up truly a TMZ interview 24 hours later in my cube i'm like looking over my shoulder

to hope like my boss doesn't walk in you know and it's the ultimate like did they hadn't by then when by time you got to work you you had an alert everybody you did two million views last night no i didn't alert i mean some select people because a lot where i worked i worked i worked in an ad agency and it's, I love this place because they really do, like, encourage creative endeavors and, like, they have a whole fucking room with cameras like this and mics like this and lights and, like, shit that they let me borrow just to, like, try it. So, like, there were some people in there that, like, knew what I was doing and they saw it, but I wasn't going around.

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My whole five months was mapped out. Right. I was like, oh, now week two, this video that I like even more than the week one video is going to have eyes on it. Right. And it's not going to be wasted. Did it do the same amount of views or more? did the same amount of views. Like, maybe not right away.

Yeah, pretty every video I put out for like, it like got like millions of views within the first week. And it was lucky because I got that first day, it happened. And then I had eyes. The product was good enough to be a viral video every time. Right. It's just like the way the world works. Like, I don't know.

Are people going to see it or not? The fact that people saw the first one. And then I had like a whole scheme where I was like every week at this time, you expect something new. Like it's like they were, they knew when to tune in. Right. But hearing you talk about it, and you said, man, I made sure I had five months worth of stuff. You know, you graduated top of your class, Richmond University, marketing degree. Yeah. Did that marketing degree kick in? No. It didn't. It didn't.

None of that shit you went to college before kicked in? No. No, it didn't. However, I'll tell you, like, the drive and discipline that it took to get the marketing student of the year, top of the class GPA, certainly like seeing myself have that success in college if I worked hard enough was like an important lesson that I was able to apply like if I work hard enough in my dreams like I can see success but like the actual shit in the textbooks that I'm reading about no totally yeah no no so you so you just went to college instinct instinct and like you know cultural awareness watching stuff like this you know what I mean like seeing like I had a friend who he started putting stuff out every week and I was watching him and like I was just like

that's an interesting way to release content so I was just like my eye was just on like how are these internet rappers like doing what they're doing and I was like no one was more tapped into like the underground internet raps. When you say internet rapper, break that down. Like guys that aren't necessarily assigned to a label that are like, you can tell like, you know, McElmore, I feel like was like that initially where like he was like, do it like he was so, do it yourself, do it yourself. And he like took him like before thrift shop, I was watching everything his every move.

And I was like, what's this guy doing? And then all it takes is to like, when you have a big enough fan base, if you have a thrift shop, they're going to make that go. If like, you know what I mean? If you have a big enough fan base and then you have a thrift shop, your core fan base, if it's big enough, will then get it to the general public,

you know? And like, luckily I kind of always was like big enough at like the right phase. Like I was big enough to like when I first did save that money to like where like that could be like somewhat mainstream and like be like on the billboard hot 100. Yeah. Then when I did Freaky Friday, I was big enough to where if I had a freaky Friday,

it could go number one in tons of countries and like be a top 10, you know. And then if I was, if I was big enough to get a TV show and it's just like in every phase I feel like I was the bare not minimum but like I was right where I needed I've never been satisfied with like

where I am but I was always I was kind of knew like strategically I was like right where I needed to be to take the next step forward if I had the right product that's major but no because you know a lot of people I really needed to know because when I'm listening to you how you strategize

your whole rollout you prepare to rollout that some of even record companies don't even have no five month playing like that You know, they just throw a record out, did that catch? Or we got to do another one, let that ride out for another six months. So you had a whole plan. So I'm thinking, like, he had a marketing degree. That's what he used.

That shit ain't even work. Honestly, I feel like it's common sense. I hate to say it. It's just like, how could you not think about the manner in which it's going to be rolled out? Like, I would never, you know, I just thought, I'm just trying to maximize my odds at success here. How can I, and how can I do that? So I thought about it logically, and I was like, well, this seems to be the right, you

know, I'm lucky that I came, like, if I came out 10 years prior to when I came out, it wouldn't have happened for me you know like i came out during youtube when like these things could happen i promise you like if i was an up-and-coming rapper back when like j z and naz were like in their heyday it wasn't going to happen for me you know but i knew that like oh i can use my sense of humor and like differentiate myself and like do something that's different myself like the way even the way like you can make a real music video starting in like 2013 or whatever like that looks like it's got slow motion all this shit that you saw like i grew up seeing Biggie and Mace videos, and they're like million-dollar things.

Right. And then hype William videos. Exactly. I'm seeing like really great videos be made for like $1,000. I'm seeing a computer that everyone has, the MacBook Pro, have a built-in recording studio where all I have to do is pay $400 by a microphone and I can make studio quality music in my room. Right.

That didn't exist 10 years prior. Right. And like you didn't, I knew that like, wow, talent is a little bit democratized right now in the sense that like you don't need to rely on someone to discover you. You don't need to rely on someone. seeing you on the street like busking and putting you in the studio. You can really make your own luck happen. And that was the beauty of your generation.

You know, our generation, you had to be somewhere that somebody was at. You had to wait for them to come out of concert. You had to run up on them. You had to tell them, you, I rap. You had to hope that they'd be like, because they're going to look you up and down. They go to bust a rap. All right, let me hear some. They might tell you, we ain't got no time for that shit, man.

Maybe next time. And then after they actually told you the rap, you had to impress them. Oh, my God. Enough to where as they would say, okay, give me a contact on you. I'm going to let you come up to New York. To New York, to the office. And then when you got up there, they had about six motherfuckers in the office that you had to battle. Yeah.

Wow. Then after you got through that. That sounds stressful. Then it was like, now you directed straight to your casum. Straight to your fans right here. These are the people that already did. with you every day for some reason. I'm going to just give it to them.

And I think that killed the middleman. It really knocked the middleman out the game. But like when you think about this technology and where it's at, like you said, you record it straight off a MacBook. You didn't even spend no money on marketing. No. You never spent a dime when you were like, I didn't need no market. Oh, yeah.

My marketing is my product. The music videos, like, you know. But I knew I was like, look, especially trying to be a comedian. And I was like, I need to take swings at making, like, I wasn't just making, generic music videos that fit a viable a song, I was like, every single one of these needs to have a shot at going viral for some reason. Like, how can I get

the biggest laugh here? How can I, like, do something that'll shock someone here? And that's what you're good at. Now, come into L.A., right? You said you've got you moved to L.A. Yeah. Got the $100,000. Can I have that Pellegrino? Can I just crack it out? Yes, you can. Crack that joint open, man. Like a 40.

He used to crack the 40s open down the way. Now, now, now, now, this is the thing. Going to L.A.B. Because, like I told you, like with us, we just, we do our thing based it out of Philly. And it went. A lot of people, do you think that was a major part of it? Or do you think you could have stayed over there in Shelham and the Philadelphia trust that and still went? Had to be in L.A., I think.

Yeah, why? Now, it's a different time. And the only reason I'm asking you why, because I want you to explain the people that's out there because there's a lot of people that live in the hometowns and they're like, I got to go to Atlanta, got to go to L.A., got to go to New York and ever make it. Well, here's the thing. I was trying to get into Hollywood. I'm trying to be an actor, a writer, a director.

You know what I mean? So it's like, whatever they're shooting in Philadelphia, like, how dare you? Yeah. It like, there's only so much, like, if you want to be, you know, let's say you want to be an actor. Yeah, maybe there's like some commercials or some local theater in Philadelphia, but it's never going to be the opportunity that you get,

when you get to, like, audition to be in my show and then you're on TV, you know what I mean? So knowing that my end game was in the film, making space. I was like, I didn't even contemplate it. You could be, I think, a successful musician from anywhere. I do feel that way. Although I do think a lot of the most talented producers, musically are in L.A.

It's a lot easier to work on music when I'm driving 30 minutes to their studio than having to fly to, I don't know, you know what I mean? I used to book sessions all the time and have my week filled with really talented people that all moved to L.A. with similar ambition. So I just think it helps to be here because there's just tons of other people who are working on it

that you can get the game from, so to speak. I mean, I think it's good to be here for just for connection purposes. And, you know, you could just go down, you know, Hollywood and you go to Redaille Drive and you can bump into four celebrities, five celebrities just in an hour's time. Where it's doing Philadelphia

or, you know, certain spots, you can't, you... It's not that accessible. You know what I'm saying? Early in my show, which gets a lot of really great celebrities, they're doing the show, even before the show aired. So no one's like, no one knows what the show is. But if I meet them, they're like, I like that guy.

So it's like just having been at parties in L.A., like I'll meet someone like Kendall Jenner. And she'll be like, I like him. He's nice. So when I hit her to be on the show, she's like, yeah, you know what I mean? So it definitely helps socially, especially if you're trying to be in something where you're bringing in talent, be where all the talent is.

If you're a likable person, you're a good human being, putting yourself in position to let that good human being shine is only going to help you. Absolutely. Now, Dave, you say, what means you say I'm going to name it, Dave?

Well, I just thought, anything else I knew that I would just end up in some way, shape, or form, like kind of not loving years down the line. Like, I love my rap name, but I hate it, too. Like, I love it in a way that it's like, it's my cross to bear. But I definitely, like, hate it. Like, when someone's like, yo, Dickie.

Like, I don't relate to that. Like, I don't feel like that's me. The girls used to call Gil that. That's why when I said, that's your rap name, little Dickie. Around neighborhood back in the day, we was kids. It was like, little Dickie. So it was just crazy. I was like, wow.

So, you know what you had the name? I said, damn, that was your name around the neighborhood. back in the day. With the show, I was like, I just, like, I can tell you, I'm not going to regret naming it my name because I'm not going to, I just, it's like, it's nothing more simple than that. And then I also thought just conceptually, like, you know, I'm a rapper named Lil Dickie, but the show is about the guy behind Lil Dickie, it's like, Dave. It's like about, like, the show is about me coming to things like this. You know what I mean? Like being in reality, which I think if you know little Dickie and you see he's got a show called Dave, I think you get what the show is about because of it. Right. Now, when you started, you know, when you, you created it did you run around LA and try to get support from it and people was like huh what did they say well I'm I have like really absurd self-belief okay

like I for no other reason than like the feedback I got I always thought like I'm like the comedic voice of my generation okay so I would go into meetings with talent agencies and be like I know that you think I'm I'm here because I'm a rapper and I am

I'm like, by the way, I am going to be, like, one of the biggest rappers. But, like, that's really, like, I'm also going to be this. And I would say these things very boldly. But they could tell I believed it. I don't even know if they necessarily believed it or not. But I always kind of, I think people believe it when they hear me say it. And I don't, I don't say it in a way where it's like, this is cool that I'm, I don't even, I think it's funny that I happen to be talented. like I don't when I say things that might be like when I see sometimes I see

interviews and I read the print and I'm like well that sounds like an arrogant thing to say but if you heard or watched me say it I don't think it would be as arrogant because if I say that I I can do X, Y or Z it's really because I happen to like be able to assess the facts at hand and what I'm good at and what the marketplace has and what they're good at and what you know and able to like determine this should be well received right and I think it's like Here's an analogy I make that's like a very arrogant thing to say. Maybe not arrogant, but it's like I see my whole life, it's like,

I really felt like I was going to be this comedian and I kind of stumbled into the reality that, wait, I feel like I'm like one of the best rappers alive. And I say, it's like believing your whole life that you're Batman. And then finding out not only are you Batman, you're also Superman, same time. And it's really, you could, I could totally get how that could be perceived as arrogant, but it's like, I didn't even know I had that skill set. as a rapper. Right.

I didn't even think I was musical. Yeah. Like, I played the drums a little bit, but to just, like, find out that, like, oh, I can make a platinum song. Yeah. That, like, I write the hook for.

Like, I didn't even know. I just, like, hum around my, I just hum. Yeah. I'm just the guy who's humming. Right. You know, so it's just, don't limit yourself to, you know,

things are surprisingly possible in life. Yes, you are. It all start with self-belief, man. You know, you come off as a, as a humble guy, but a very confident person. a person that believes that you can do whatever the fuck you put your mind to.

And not anything. A lot of things I'm really horrible at. Yeah. But you got to know what you're good at and what you're horrible at as well. Yeah. You know, so for me, you know, I know my audience. I know what my audience likes to hear from me. So anything that's dealing in that kind of space, I don't know if it's going to work or not before I even try it.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because I know what my audience. audience want for me so you know with you is like you'll try you'll think about something and one thing about you you plan that's just obvious yeah so you probably planned your tv show six years out already before yeah you got six years worth of episodes yeah he's writing it down yeah before he started when i was on tour like as a rapper no tv show with gaita who's in my TV show. I'm just writing down every funny thing that

occurs. I have a, the whole show began with, like, me looking at my list that's, like, 50 pages, and like, whittling it down to, like, what's, what's a season one idea? Like, I can't have, like, me hanging out with Kanye season one. It's too big of a jump, you know? Like, so this Kanye story might have to say, wait until

season four, you know? But, like, what can happen season one? What's a good first episode, pilot, you know? And it's just, like, go, like, so many of the things that happened on my show have happened to me, like, you know, in some degree in reality. Did you think, think it was going to take off this fast because I'm pretty sure now by

the time you do the TV show the rap shit's in the chokehold you got your fan base you kind of I've kind of neglected my rap fan base I have a truthfully I haven't put an album out since 2015 I've put two songs out in eight years you think about it that way it's absurd

but it's not for lack of effort the TV show like the stuff that I do on the show is so all encompassing like the life cycle of a show you write it for four months and I'm like the main writer in the room writing the things you shoot it for four months I'm in every scene you edit it and put I'm the guy who's in every edit session I'm the guy doing all the schoolwork composing writing all the music for it like doing all that I mean every color correction session sleep well I sleep I do sleep eight hours a day damn you get a whole eight I get like seven now I guess but it takes up so

there's no way that I can, like, do a 15-hour day on set and come back and write a verse. I just can't, it's not, it wouldn't be the right verse. So I just, I can only work on the music in between the show, which I do carve out time to do, and I can tell you, like, what I wrote musically as a rapper in between seasons two and three, and those six months was, like, more fruitful

than what I did the first five years after my last album. And, like, I'm, it kills me because inside, like, when I say things, like, I really feel like I'm one of the best rappers alive. Like, I wouldn't, I've got some, evidence online but like I don't think I have the body of work online to really like have people be like yeah I agree but I know that like if I brought you to my studio you would hear it and you'd be like I see why you feel that way does you have a boost right for anybody no I don't

have time well you know what I see though I see that Dickie Dave grew up a kid who really wanted to be a comedian yeah he wanted to be an actor he wanted to be in that field yeah oh he stumbled across oh shit i can rap yeah wait i think i'm really good parents like dave sit your dumb ass down dave you're going to mess the money up you take the money you spend the money go three videos put it out same for him millions of views you're like holy six thousand dollars okay i got to run with this but the whole time it seems like you're real passion is being a comedian in TV and that field. So when you got the opportunity to do it,

it was like, I'm going to do what I really always wanted to do. Sure, the one thing that I would, it's not like, but rapping wasn't just this random thing that I was like, oh, cool, I'm good at this. Like, truthfully, if I had three dreams as a kid, it was comedian, rapper, playing in the end of the end. You know what I mean? Like, so it's like I love rap.

I always will owe hip hop just for even allowing my voice to even be heard. And, like, I'm so competitive. I'm like, from Philly. I have that, like, competitive grit to me. We're like, now that I know that I can do this, I want, I can't feel satisfied until everyone knows what I know. And so I do feel bad for the core Lil Dickie fan base out there that's like,

fuck you, man. Like, every time I post anything on Instagram or anything, it's just like, where's the album? Where's the album? And it's like, it's truly, it's been eight years. Fuck you, Dickie. But, fuck you, little. They did change it. Fuck you, Dave.

You're not dicking anymore. You don't give us any music. I just look forward to the day where I can put out this music and I can, because I think it will be really satisfying because I think it's, I feel like I've proven myself in TV. And I think it'd be easy to look at me as a little bit of a gimmick or not really what I think I am as a rapper. And I look forward to the day that,

I mean, I have evidence of being a good rapper. Yes. I do. I mean, you from Philly, but Philly rappers is just, that's what we do. right we go like but it's more than just being good that i want to achieve it's like you know i take pride in songwriting melody you know but is it i used to when i started i was like i got to be like so many words and like now i don't when i rap like i don't my like i don't my listen to my old

stuff and i'm rapping fast i'm like what a loser i am you know that's how i be when i've listened to his old stuff i'm like this guy was a fucking loser a bum rapper this guy now let me say this The beautiful thing about you getting into, you know, TV and having a show and all that is that it's elevation, man, it's growth. Some rappers, they come in the game, they could just rap. That's it. And it's like, some of them don't even have any aspirations to even do anything else. I just, man, I just rap, man.

So the fact that you could be like, I rap, but hold on now, I'm going to go over here. and I'm a I'm gonna do something in this space too and be productive not just do it because oh I can do it no I'm gonna actually do it and I'm gonna fuck shit up yeah and it's gonna be one of the most saw after TV shows out people gonna be expecting and gonna be waiting on Dave's second season to come and that's what that's what came about yeah so you know sometimes you can't stay trapped in this this bottle over here

you know what I mean especially now when like the lines of what is what is so blurred like this thing you go on tour you guys went on a tour with the podcast you know what I mean like you're selling out venues with and like people wouldn't have thought of that ever so the lines are so blurred anything's possible I would say if I can't listen to any box or limitation people would say like you can't be funny and be a good rapper at the same time I'm like why not right are those two things mutually exclusive right like there's no reason why I can't be as funny as possible while rapping as well as possible right Well, because Eminem was kind of funny. He was funny. He is funny. He was funny. You know. I mean, you had a, you had a, shit.

DMX was serious, but was funny. Yeah. He was saying some shit. You'd be like, you know, that was fucking funny. Like, it was hard, but it was definitely funny how he put it together. There's a long history, I feel, like, of comedic personalities as rat. Like, you know, Snoop is one of the funniest guys I've ever met in my life. Yes.

Oh, it's definitely just going to phone with him to like how he was fucking dying. now Dave are you got the idea you got the whole thing you went today and you went all that making it yeah was it a you know because this was your first time making something of this yeah this level was it fucking crazy was it a crazy journey it's it's you know I would say whereas rapping it took me like working so hard the 10,000 hour we would even get to a place where I can listen to my rap and be like I respect my thing I think I just like rolled out of bed able to do this more.

You know what I mean? Like where certainly like I do things now season three that are astronomically better than like what I did season one. Like season one I'm like looking around and being like what is going on here? What does this department do? What is like how like you know what does he mean when it's like a two shot

and it's like a raked two shot as opposed to a frontal two shot? It's like learning all the lingo and like understanding filmmaking. You know like it's weird. I always envisioned myself a comedian my whole life but now more than ever I actually think I'm if I had one word to describe myself as filmmaker. And, like, I take more pride in anything

in the way that my show's directed, the way that it's shot, the way that it's written. And, like, of course, being funny is why I have to remind myself, like, don't forget, like, you came into this trying to be, like, the guy that's making everyone laugh. And I, of course, love to do that, but I have even more pride in, like, a fucking robbery scene that, like,

looks like a movie. You know what I mean? It's shot a certain way. And so, but season one, it was like, yes, it was like, it's so hard. I don't know that people know how harder it is to make a TV. And how much goes into it? How long did it take for the first season? Four months to write, three months to shoot, four months to edit.

It's like that type of thing. Damn. Yeah. So it's like every time I go in, I can't even go out of that world until like 10 months later. And it's like truly six, seven days a week, 15 hours a day. And there's so many decisions to be made. And I just care about, it's not that I'm a control freak.

It's just I have an opinion. No one can read my mind. And I'd rather my opinion be the thing that goes out. than, like, delegating something to someone else who might have a different opinion than me. I care too much about the curtain on the window and, like, the color it is compared to, like, the shirt that I'm wearing. I care about the lenses we use. I care about the way it's lit, the way it's all of it. Well, one thing I learned about being on set is the most important things, number one, is the lighting.

Yeah. You have to have great lighting. Yeah. If you don't, they'll fuck the whole shot up. trust me sure and a lot of comedies like can look real goofy yeah and like you they turn on and you're like oh I'm supposed to think this is funny I wanted to make a show that like you turn it on it looks like it's like human and like real and feel like my show I want people to cry during scenes you know like I don't want it to just be a bunch of dick jokes yeah even though I love the

dick joke and I'll make so many of them because I love that yeah that's kev that's our guy over there. Now, when you when you was running around trying to get a budget for it, how many people shot you down? Anybody shoot you down? This episode of a million dollars

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Best at is in a pitch. Like pitching this show, like I couldn't thrive more. Like, nothing makes me happen than, like, sitting down with a room full of executives and being like, there's not even a doubt in my mind that this will be a good show. Like, by default, look at the context. Look at the world I'm in.

Look at the landscape of television. Like, this, by default, is going to be good. I think that this is going to be, like, one of the best shows of all time. And it's not hard to sell that dream, if you really believe it. And, like, I tell the stories that I was planning on telling. So I got a lot of yeses

You know A lot of other comedians might have had Getting the meeting is the hard part I think And I think what All my music videos and everything Like that acted the way stand-up comedy acted like 20 years ago For like the Chris Rocks of the world Who like just needed to get discovered

Like for their five minutes set in New York City And the guy on SNL sees them And like they get you know It's not like that anymore So I think With my music and my videos I was able to get the meetings, and then when I got the meetings, I'm able to, like, matter of fact, break down what this thing could be.

And I think deep down, it's hard to argue with the facts at hand. Why? That kind of reminds us of us, though. Yeah. We get the meetings, and we're close. Yeah, I believe it. Be closing that shit. Yeah.

Now, FX, Hulu. Why, what was it about FX? Well, I like the people, like the human beings in the meeting. That's a big factor. Yeah. I liked the track record of TV shows. Like, you know, FX has some of the best shows on TV. And they're really notorious for being a creator's medium.

Like one thing I was really concerned about was like, you know, with my music, no one tells me anything. I don't, and it's signed a label that, like, has any, I couldn't care less what anybody thinks. I need to, like, be the one controlling all of the creative. And I was worried about making a TV show where then all of a sudden I get notes from a network and like, do I have to listen to them? And, like, FX was just, like, known for, like, letting their people be, like, true atoors and, like, let them do what they want to do. But also, they're really added value. Like, I will send them a cut, a rough cut, and they'll have notes, and I swear 70% of their notes, I will listen to, and it will make the show better. Right.

So I just think, seeing the shows that they had made, you know, shows like Louie, like, I love that show. I just, I was able to be like, this network seems like a good fit for the type of show. I'm trying to make. Yeah. Well, we give a shout- And then with Hulu, the fact that Hulu then merged with them. So now I'm getting two networks.

I'm getting both. Yes. That's major. It's beautiful. Shout out the FX. Being great partners, I also want to shout out Barstool Sports for being great partners.

That's nice. Yeah. Because they stayed the fuck out of our way. Yeah. They understand that. They understand that we do what we do and they're like, we love what you guys do.

And we don't get any of those notes. Yeah. you can tell it so you're you're got the reason you guys it's so you know what i mean and it's like that's why i said before we started this like being from philadelphia it's like i get this feeling of nostalgic pride every time i watch anything you guys do that's how i beat o'cona when you're from philly and you see somebody win yeah it just give you a sense of pride because you know we not new york you know we not ala you know it's not a bunch of opportunities there so when you see somebody really come up and do their thing

you're like damn that's what's up man because you know the journey was difficult fucking it's hard coming out of Philadelphia it's extremely hard and like when you see your show it's like damn this dude got a show and it's just you never know who's gonna pop up that's what I liked about I'm like oh shit you don't know I'm talking about you don't know

who the fuck gonna be on this next thing is crazy I'm not even gonna name the people but the people that we got you can't just name a couple I mean there are some just for a billion dollars worth game followers. I can tell you,

you know, guys like Don Cheadle. You know what I mean? He's a legend. Yeah. But like, there are names that I'm not going to name because you're just like,

it's such a moment when you're going to be watching it. When you see it like, oh shit. And like the people that we got on this season, I can't even believe it. Was it, was it easy? Once they've seen the first season.

Listen, once they seen the first season, now everybody was called. Matthew McCona. Easier. Like first season, man, I'm telling you,

there were times where like I'm like, there's a rapper supposed to be in it and he's just not coming and I'm like calling every rapper I know that lives in L.A. and being like, hey, you want to be in this TV show I'm making? They're like, yeah, sure. I'm like, okay, can you come right now? Because like the money is like currently being

lit on fire and like we had a scene that like was supposed to start. It's not like going to the studio where it's like if a rapper doesn't come that night, you can get back to it. It's like every day is like 500 grand lit on fire. That like isn't my money. Right. You know, so it's like it's so stressful. I there were days

where I had 20 grand in a backpack like for like whatever rapper I was that was gonna show up that day season one season two I knew everyone was showing up season three I can't believe it right season three is like damn I can't believe the level that it's gotten to

so season four we're gonna be on there we're gonna get our cameo in there yeah I like that plug shameless plug too I fucking love it we're in there doing the little scene oh my god give me wild it was in Hollywood no because see the difference is

the studio you come back you know you're just paying for studio time yeah you know there's like 200 people getting paid that's what I'm saying so now you're on set you're I told you I'd be telling you about you got you got to pay for food what you got to pay for makeup if we're renting this house right here we got to rent this house again tomorrow yeah trailers insurance yeah oh my god so you're like 500,000 a day you're saying it's it's a little less than that makeup how many days is you 50 50 50 so y'all read But y'all ratings, when that shit came out was on another level, though.

Yeah. Y'all big time, big boys. Yeah. So he could be able to do that. So he'll get bigger and bigger eight times. So he's like, but the time of the season we get on, shit's going to be $700,000 a day. Yeah, hopefully.

He said, yeah, hopefully. We like, we love budget increases when possible. Yeah. Ain't nothing like a budget increase. Yeah. But with this day in technology, and I'm not saying, Dave, the Internet and. some cameras or some cell phones yeah you can make a whole movie a show I'm talking about

these phones like or even the medium look at TikTok like look at like I mean I'm not even on TikTok but if I was it was if I was 20 years old and I want to be a comedian all I'd be doing would be TikTok and like trying to understand like because you don't need a show anymore like I look at a guy like druski on on Instagram and it's like people are able to see like this guy's one of the funniest guys in America and just by him making me his iPhone video skits. He got Drusky on there too. Right.

I bet he got Drusky on there. Not yet. Man. No. Drake. He said you ain't got Drizzy. He got Drizzy. He said no to Drewski, but Drake, he said.

But you see that? We got the Ali who. I can't tell you. I can't tell you either. But you won't Drewski. I love Drusky. Okay. So that's going to happen.

I don't know him personally. Yeah, but I ain't. What we do know is he don't got Drusky, but he got Drusky. I wouldn't say that. He was going to say he's not one. He's good. He was like, originally there's Jason and Beyonce

didn't deny either. Yeah, he didn't deny that. I'm not going to die anything because anything's possible. It definitely is. Yeah. You like Obama? You got Obama on it?

No. Oh, shit. You got Obama on it? He got it. Why would he just say? But like, you know, Michelle. That's the thing.

You feel like it could be possible. It is. So, because Dave is a fucking hit TV. Do you create a, Do you create a list and say, I'm going after all these people? Oh, yeah. And now it's even more specific where it's like we're writing.

I mean, there are a few things I did that was kind of reckless this season where like I wrote things that were so hyper specific to a certain person that if they said no, we would have been fucked. He's a BMF. He a bad motherfucker. He knew they weren't going to say no. And I was like, man, I got. They say no, I got to change the shit away. Yeah, it's not like a plug and play where you can just be like, okay. Put anybody there.

Yeah. He's like, I'm like, I'm living in Canada. the people. I land in Canada. I need Drake to pick me up from the airport. You're jumping on the Drake thing. I wouldn't jump on that.

I don't know. That's not going to work. Obama. He said, he got Obama. I didn't. I didn't get Obama. Yeah.

But I like how everything's possible. I like how he'll say, but it's possible. But it's possible. I did. Now, now we're doing, you know,

with day, you know, going up, is it going to be movies? Is it going to be? Because I'm seeing it's like It's getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger And bigger and bigger

Movies have always been my favorite thing in the world When are you getting into shooting film? I mean I'm writing a movie right now I think when you look back at my career When I'm like 70 I really think a majority of like the things you think about Are going to be movies I mean you'll think about the show

You think about the rap career But I think you know Rap is a young man's game I think 20 years from now man When you're a David Spielberg Because Steve's little brother They won't even know you as a rapper Well, not

Then I didn't do good enough I hope that I really I hope that I hope that I change That I that I do have a period of time That they'd be like And there was the music too I really do But you gotta understand

The music was good But if 20 years from now They don't remember that you did music That's because your fucking films are unbelievable Yeah I just want it I want it all I've had I just want to be the best.

Well, greedy Dave, man. He just won it all. Now, but this is the thing, no, Dave. This is what I'm looking at, like, the movie. You just say, yeah, I'm working the right one. Yeah. It seemed like you're real locked in. Because you got to put all this time in,

because it seemed like to create, Dave, that's more, that's longer than doing a movie. Yeah. So you're doing that, then you're still writing. That's why I was like, you say you get eight hours, Like, damn. Well, I wish I had more of a social life. You'd just be right, because it seemed like you're right in.

I wish I could spend more time with my girlfriend and travel. Like, I wish, you know, I don't have any kids. I would love to, like, before I have children, be able to, like, travel the world for, like, six months. You know, I just can't find that window because it's like, I don't feel comfortable taking months off when I have all of these diehard fans that are the reason I even have a career in the first place that don't have a second album. Right. I just feel an immense level of pressure to create. I really do. How's your girlfriend,

Philips? I have me any time for her. Well, living together helps. And working from home, I think, is like, you know, because she's working from home. I'm editing the whole show from home. So it's like, we're crossing past all the time. And it's more about, like, when I am with her

and we're spending time, it's like, don't think about the other shit, like, really be with her. And I think she's just really good at supporting me right now, knowing that that's what I need in this phase of life. And eventually, the tables could turn. I could be, have, I could take a year off because I feel like, you know what, I had my albums out.

My show's done. I put out my first movie. Maybe I won't work for a year. And I'll just be like the best boyfriend in the world by then husband. That is. No, but listen. First of all,

I just want to tell you your lovely girlfriend, that's never fucking happening. He's always going to work. She knows that. He just got to deal. He just made some shit up in his own mind. Maybe I'll take a year off. You're not doing it.

You're going to take a word. A week or go by his guy, baby, I got to write shit. I got to, I'm not creating. Yeah. I got to write something. I just, I do love making things. Yes.

And I, and I, you know, you never know. Like, I'm telling you, man, my back all of a sudden this year is, I'm not even the basketball player that I once was because my back started hurting. Well, shit, that ain't on my camera. I've been meaning to ask you. Nice. Of course. No, I know. But are you not getting, like, really sore all the time?

No. Like, why, how do you not get sore? That's like the main thing I think about when I'm. I mean, I saw off. Because he's 50. What the fuck out of it? I'm 46. The amount you play, I don't, like, because I never got sore.

I turned 35 last week. Yeah. And I turned 34, everything changed. I was playing, I was playing three times a week. You know, sore the next day, but like, you know, now when I play, something happened in my body where I'm sore for a month. And the reason I'm bringing that up is because I'm like, you never know how things change. I just want to, like, have, like, what if I, like, get hurt? I know that's, like, Jewish.

OCD that you shouldn't, but it's just like, I want to, while I have the brain and the time and the mind, I just want to create the legacy of art that I feel like I'm capable of. Right. I feel like, man, you only, you only hear one time, man. So while you hear, you might as well do lit that shit to the fullest, man, try to be the greatest individual person that you can be on earth to leave a great legacy out here. So, you know, taking years off, that don't. Well, here's what I'll say.

Fuck your legacy up, taking years. Maybe. At the end of the day, though, I feel like I'm on a dangerous path of, like, spending my entire existence building this legacy. But then, like, the building of the legacy isn't, like, necessarily, like, enjoying life or, like, living life. So it's like, I don't want to live a life that's all about a legacy that I can't even enjoy because I'm like, why you hear? I think the year off might be the type of thing that is more important than built. You know, I'm not able to take that leap right now because I feel the urgency of everything. But I don't think I'm living life necessarily the right way.

if I did it forever. I think there's more to life than just like being great. But the way you go is the way you break your shit down, it seemed like that you could plan a rollout that could last a year

where you could chill that year. Like you just peed everything together, everything that you need. Yes, I hope. It's the multiple fields that, like, I don't want to put music out without the right music videos and then I got to make the right music video.

How am I going to do that while I'm shooting the show? And, you know, it's a whole, it's just very time-consuming. See, for me, I can't take no time off because I'm in fear of falling off. I'm a fear of when I come back I won't be as hot because people, attention spans is not what it used to be. Yeah.

And I'm coming from a place where I grew up poor. So I'm living to provide financial freedom for family members that I'm never going to meet, ever in life. You know what I'm saying? And when they're out here living, they're going to be like, oh, no, my great-grandfather did this. Yeah. So for me, you know, I only got one objective out here, man.

Get it every day, keep going. Get it every day. Try to be great, man, and try to leave something to my family that could go on for years and years and years and years to come. But he do do this, though, that. Like, even with him grinding like that, he do make time. No, I make time for my family. He had to tell me because I was just a machine.

My wife's downstairs right now. And we were supposed to be here until Friday. but something came up. So I'm out. I'm leaving. I got to go. We got to go tomorrow. Yeah.

I got to go be great. You know what I mean? We just like we get a call from Dave slash, you know, little dicky. Yeah. We out here. We out here. We're right here. And I appreciate that.

We got to go be great. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And for us, that's just what it's about. So we know where you say like, man, because you're like in your mind, people might look at you people might give you your props they might clap they might cheer at a ratings but you're like oh no I'm just warming up I'm trying to get here right here you're excited but no I got to get here and that's how I'll be in my mind like I'm still warming up this practice but it will

never end never the feeling the the goalpost will continue to move keep moving so if you know that and I this is my biggest play in life is like you know I you can't have your entire self-worth and satisfaction be granted by the validation of others. Yeah. But unfortunately, it totally is for me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, everything I do in life is to be the best artist I can be, make the best show

anyone's ever seen. And it's just like, it's a, I know that if I live my whole life that way, I will have deeper regret when I'm like 70. So it's like, but I also know if I don't, I mean, in addition, it also gives you the financial freedom to be able to enjoy life. And so my plan has always been like, go super hard first half of your life, be able to enjoy and reflect on it in the second half. That's what Tom Brady keep.

coming back. Yeah. Because, like, all I did was play football my whole fucking life. If I retire, what the fuck am I going to do? But I love, like, I love, like, I'm not like a work, like, I, nothing makes me happen than, like, sitting on the couch and watching a movie. Yeah. That's like, if I, you could say, let's do anything today, I would do that.

So it's like, it's not that I love having to work hard all the time. I wish the tasks took less time. So I could do more chilling. Yeah, but it takes, it takes, it takes. a lot of time to be great. It seemed like, you know, with this coming out, the new season coming out, season three is going to be crazy because, you know, after the first year, I mean, the first, you know, season, you always averaging like 5.3, you know what I mean,

million per episode. So it's like, you're going to, like, that shit going to be even just, I'm talking about the top in FX history. There's the top. How did that feel? Because some people are like, holy fuck, he done it. It's over. It felt great.

It felt great. for me i was like that's a lot of people i'm talking about we're talking about listen hold up hold up dave we're talking about 5.3 million people per episode set there yeah and say it's like the fucking super bowl i'm watching dave no it's awesome but all i think is like okay what was season one like as far as like my satisfaction level like i definitely like i'm very proud that having no prior experience i achieved what i did just as far as the product independent of viewership I was like, that doesn't disappoint me overall. It's like the lowest level of like satisfied,

which is all I need to hit because my bar of satisfaction is super high. But I'm thinking of like, how do I reach the highest level of satisfaction? So I was like, now those 5.3 million viewers, like I need them to watch the best version of the show, which is like you pull up an episode of season three compare it to the way season one feels, you know,

it's day and night as far as like artistic quality and just things that I've gotten better at, things that I'm more keen to, more aware of, and I'm just only going to get I really have a surprisingly very limited experience in I'd never even written a script before writing that I never didn't have the software until like 2019 you know COVID yeah so just like I'm just excited because I feel like I'm just really at the tip of the iceberg so what do you want the people to expect I was going to say iceberg yeah everybody really watched the new season of Dave what do you want to be but I think it's here's my overall take on season one season two season one I was like I want to make the funniest show on TV really like prioritized being funny season two I was like I'm a filmmaker I didn't even realize I didn't even know what filmmaking was now I do I'm watching all these movies I'm like how do I make my show feel like this like I made it way more dramatic I added way more things to it

that gave it a certain artistic mf that I don't feel existed in season one as much season one it happened every now and then, but it surprised you. Season two, it was like really anchoring the season. There was like a lot, it was like a tense season. It was a very dramatic strife-filled season that I'm super proud of. But season three, to me is like the best of everything. Like it's like me being like, I'm going back to making the funniest version of the show I could ever make while all those artistic learnings that happened over two seasons are now being applied. And I'm able to do things that I never could have done visually, artistically, while still making the funniest version of a joke that we've ever and still seeking.

out jokes more than ever. So I really think it's like the best, season one and season two are pretty different. And I think this is like this middle ground that I think everyone will be like, that's my favorite version of the show. That's crazy, man. Well, listen, man, you see what's going on, man.

Yes. We got Dave here. Check out the new season. Season three is going down. Dave, a lot of shit, a lot of, lot of, you never know. We might pop up in season three. Four.

No, no. Listen, no, no, no. I got them thinking we're going to be in this one, man. What the hell is you told? Well, you already asked him. Could we come? But no, they could have edited that out, man. They don't need to fucking know that.

They don't edit shit out. I know, but they probably thought we was going to pop up. You know what I mean? But listen, man. Obama and Drizzi is in the next episode. Episode season three. No, I'm not going to say that. You never know.

You never know. You never know. I think, you know what I think is going to pop up? There's going to be some athletes, definitely. Post Malone. I think Post Malone's going to pop up. That's a good one. I do.

I think Post Malone's going to pop up. pop up. I wouldn't be surprised. I think Burn a boy. 21 Savage. I think Burn a boy might pop up too. Hmm. I said 21 Savage.

Uh, who else? Uh. Ariana Grande. I think Ariana Grande. That's a reasonable guest too. Yes. I think she will pop up. Bad Bunny.

Maybe. Just remember the names we said. Remember the names. We see people pop up. So when you, they person pop up, make sure y'all film it and did, you know,

said it to someone. They don't know. They don't know. they really don't know none of you was right so yeah but uh man Kevin Durant KD was the first celebrity to publicly endorse me Katie's a fucking legend I see you know I'm gonna shot Katie out too because I see Katie showing a lot of love to up and coming rappers yes he did it for me he posted a song I was like I couldn't believe I was remember it was backstage at the show in San Diego early in my career no so no famous person had even sniffed at Lil Dickie and

I'm sitting there and I see Kevin Durant tweeted about me fucking hip hop head for real Yeah Then he got in my video I made a little iPhone He didn't save that money video He got in the video Kevin Durant like really like

That's a when you're like Coming up to get that validation From someone like him It really changes You know me and Kevin Durant had a little light You probably don't know We had a little light beef man You and KD?

Yeah man he said my game was trash Yeah game is trash I think he was hate I think he was hating on me I don't think I've seen people play more basketball, like, that aren't athletes than you guys. Yeah, well, you know, fucking game's trash. I'm Dennis Robin of the team.

Don't do that. I grabbed the rebounds, give you the second shot. Don't play that. I was just interviewed, and they were like, who are the, you know, the best five basketball playing people in hip-hop? I put you on there. What's what's up, man? Because you definitely on there, too.

I would say, me, you, Chris Brown. Yep. I have those same three. Who else? I mean, I have to put Dave East on there Dave East absolutely What about Jay Cole

Jay Cole? Jay Cole Jay Cole plate That's the five right there That's the five right there Davey Cuevo gets cut Yeah Cuevo Quavo and Bull Dirk is honorable mention Well I'm okay with that list

Yeah I mean too You're not on that list You know who's good Simba's good Simba Yeah Simba's honorable mention to our barbecue And Russ I'm in the top 12

Shit No, Russ is good Yeah, I said Russ Russ is better than Russ was Yeah, Russ was knocking down Some jumpers Russ is fucking good

Yeah, I got him out of here though Chris Brown got you out of here too Yeah, Chris DeVise I'm waiting for you to step up So I get you Davey's like you got to think about this Dave he's tall as shit Too big for you Gil

I had to file him down I'm freshman year University of Richmond Back him down Dave East also a freshman University of Richmond Oh shit 810

He's playing six man on the basketball team. You know what I mean? So, like, my perspective on Dave East is like, oh, what the fuck is his last name? Dave, uh, Brewster. I was like, that's Dave Brewster.

Mm-hmm. Who I was like, I remember, I played pickup with him one day and I was like, I felt like I was like hanging out with Puff. You know, like, I was like, he was so, he had a nice, he was, I mean, he's, I think he's not as good as he used to be. He can shoot.

You can shoot, and he's six, six. Mm-hmm. And he's got the instincts. He's a division one basketball player. None of these other guys you mentioned are even close to that. No. Not even close. No.

So his instincts are D1. Yeah. Damn. I cook Dave. I got me following him down. What Dave? Dad Dave? Dave.

Davey's, I got me following him out. You're physical. I've seen you play your favorite. You play a physical brand. My game is like. Every team needs a guy like you. Barkley, Shack.

What? Barclay. Rob, man. Charles. Yeah. There's a mix. Dirty work. Yeah.

People say my game is a mix. He's setting the screens for guys like you to come, come off. Yeah, you didn't see me with the wrestler at the... Listen, no, no, no. His shit more like... Come on, man. We was at the big three, man. This dude's a fucking W-W.E.

I backed him down. I had him. He didn't score at one point. Neither do you. No. No, Sammy Stretch. He'd be stretching him out of the gym. There's an old head name Sammy Stretch.

Oil him up. We got the hot oil. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm right there with you. He's an old Italian guy from down, South Philly. He comes to the gym and he just stressed him out. He got the hot oil, dip his hand in the hot oil and stretch his legs out with all legs. Man, we ain't trying to hear that shit.

Make sure you all tune to the next episode. Sammy Stritch. The next season, a Dave, man. Thank you for having me. Man, we appreciate you for coming through, man. It's always a Philly thing. Yes. And we just appreciate you for being great, man.

Thank you guys. You know what I mean? It's right back at you. Absolutely, man. And it's just like that. Right.