Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MICHAEL B. JORDAN: MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 208
Episode Date: February 25, 2023Hollywood heartthrob Michael B. Jordan sits down with us to discuss his latest project and directorial debut, Creed III. Jordan talks about his experience as the film's director and how he's brought a... fresh perspective to the popular Rocky franchise. After being awarded Sexiest Man Alive we ask Jordan what could possibly be next in store for this young legend.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mworthofgame
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bedtime edition.
Yes.
I mean, we got the big guy on here today.
Michael B. Joy, man.
It's going down, man.
We got a Creed 3 coming out March 3rd.
Listen, man, it's happening, man.
How do it feel this, your directorial debut?
How do it feel?
It feels great, man.
Honestly, it's a long time coming.
You know, I've been, you know, just growing and involving.
Like, I say it's a lot.
I feel like all roads of my life personally and professionally kind of led to this, this one film.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, like, the film memes so much to me, so much I was been trying to say about it.
But then also, like, it's, you know, me personally, it's like my, I don't know, I'm here now.
I finally feel like I'm here.
All the accolades of the things, the movies that I've done so far, I feel like this is the one that really kind of puts it all together.
It is your rival, Mark.
I think so.
Absolutely.
I feel like it.
Now, growing up, North, that's the hood.
Yep.
Growing up, did you ever imagine this?
Did you know where you're like?
Because you know, we grew up in the inner cities.
And what we see, some are our fivers, our uncles, our big brothers, go to jail,
getting into street culture, get killed.
What did you see for yourself and how was your family structure growing up?
I think for me, like, family was, like, super important and always kind of kept my, you know,
my ambitions, you know, big, you know, always been a big daydreamer, always been
dreamer always been dreaming you know so for me growing up in nork so close to manhattan
manhattan represented like just like the possibilities like just going to the city
dad taking me to you know west indian day parades and like going over like west fourth
street or chelsea pears to go hoop and stuff like that basketball city like that represented like
you know something that was different than my environment you know what i'm saying like you know
dad was big in the community with like you know neighborhood watch stuff or or or you know just like
you know block parties and just like kind of organizing just like boys and girls clubs
was the coach of the community and stuff like that.
So we always had a strong sense of like, you know, family and community, you know, within the hood.
And for me, never knew I would be directing or, like, acting or anything like that.
But at a young age, I kind of got into other things, you know what I'm saying?
Like, sports was really big, you know what I'm saying growing up.
But then, you know, have an opportunity that my mom, she has lupus.
So my mom used to go back, go back to the doctor's appointments all the time.
And the receptionist at the doctor's office had two boys that was in the modeling.
and stuff like that for like models and toys of us and the sunday paper and stuff like that
and then she was like yeah why don't you know take your son you know what i'm saying one of these
auditions with me so i went and i booked it and then from then it was just kind of like one
little thing after another so i never really like wanted to do it it was just something i kind of did
and just kind of found my way and just kind of kept kept at it this episode a million dollars worth
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a million dollars worth of game and it's just like that right
and we're so good about it it's very important especially in our community
I think a lot of times the fathers are so important in our community
because the things you've seen your father's doing you're doing in the community
back in the day now you're doing you give back so much to the community
you're doing things for HBCUs you have so many in a lot of your partners
that you do business with is always something that's dealing with a give back
yeah that's taking care of people
And it's just to see you doing that
And not forget what you come from is major
But it goes into you watching your father
And I think fathers is very important
What we do with our kids
You know
You know fathers is with a T not a F
Whatever man
It don't even matter
He know what I'm saying
You know what I'm saying
You know what I'm saying
And you go into that
But like a lot of people
Some people know you from different place
Some people know you as Wallace
And you know the wire
Some people know you from when they first seen you
What was that moment when you hit you was like
was it through real station
where was that moment
when you was like
oh shit I'm here
like this is this is really happening
like I'm
I think the first time
when I was young
it was probably
Hardball
this movie called
Hardball
yeah
when we and I was the first time
like me and my friends
like you know
at that point
we were catching the bus
to the mall
you know what I'm saying
out in a you know
Willerbrook Mall
and stuff like that
and the first time
I sat in the movie there
and saw myself on the screen
with my with my best friends
like I think that was like
that was like a moment
like okay cool
and then it was like
I how many numbers
we're gonna get tonight
you know what I'm saying
Like, you know, that was a thing.
When you're a young kid going to the mall,
like something of the number of you going to get was a thing, you know what I mean?
So I think that was the first time I think at a young age,
I was like, okay, cool, this is like a moment.
I'm doing something like, you know,
I'm doing something crazy that I never really imagined.
I think I'm, Fruitvale Station was another one.
There's another milestone kind of moment in me.
Like, I never thought I could, like, carry a film.
I didn't know if I could be a lead and actually open up a movie.
Like, that's a thing as an actor you want to know if you've never,
you come from TV or smaller roles.
You know, if you want to be a movie actor,
you're like, can I open a movie?
That's a real thing.
So actors really have those doubts?
1,000%.
I think, you know, when so much of your career sometimes it's based off what other people think
about you, it's a weird industry, it's tough, you know?
And I think having that inner confidence or finding it, you know, over, you know, project
to project, success to success, you know, Fruitvale Station was one where Ryan Coogler really
believed in me and like, you know, and it was like, yo, we're going to go out and show
the world that you can't.
be like a leading
leading actor
and that was a big moment
for me
and then fast forward
you know I think
this is another moment
for me
where it's like
okay I feel like
I just got here
like I feel like
I just got here
with this movie
and that's why I think
I'm I still
I'm not settled
I don't feel
I'm not comfortable
I'm what's next
what's next
what's next
I'm trying to push
to evolve
it felt good
being from Philly
though to see you do
creed and you was
down at the front street
gym
and it was like
it brought
it brought like a Philly spirit
to it. You know what I mean? Me personally
I think that the Rocky
statue is kind of old
so we should replace
it with the new one. I'm just
saying, I'm just throwing it out there. You don't cause
a ruckus out. I'm just throwing it out. I'll be
Rocky been around for 11,000 years.
You know, sometimes you've got to
replace the old with the new.
I mean, the next LeBron James is coming.
That's a good point. The next Steph Curry
is coming. The next, you know, Mike had
to, sometimes Mike had to step to
side and say, okay, it's Kobe time.
So, you know, I'm just throwing that out there
being, though, you gave me the keys to Philadelphia.
Can't give me the keys to the city and not
expect me to say what I feel.
And it's like, three statue,
coming soon. It's just like,
growing up, you know, Rocky,
that was just a movie. Yeah.
It was bigger than Philadelphia. It was a movie that everybody
seen is like, you could come up.
And, you know, as a kid, when you, you know,
you see that movie, just imagine. You're sitting in the
crib, but wherever you've seen it,
that first and like
that I'm gonna be in here
yeah hello creed that's my pop like
that's like
like you go from that like how do that happen
I mean it's one of those things like
what I think is so great about the Rocky films
and with the creed movies is like
you know it represents the underdog
yes you know what I'm saying and we're underdogs
you know what I think a lot of people feel like underdogs
the world the world is tough it's hard
you know I'm saying you got to go through obstacles
and like hardships so when you see a character
that's like that represents you
on screen going through all those
trials and tribulations and somehow he manages to rise from the ashes and reach that mountaintop
again you see yourself doing that and you feel like I could do that too and trying to keep that
spirit within the Cree franchise was really really important and um and yeah man so I think for me was
you know and Ryan the goal was you know how do you keep making Adonis feel like the underdog you know
and this movie was was something that we tried to do um in a real did you guys see it you guys got a
chance to see it?
The third one?
No,
yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
I didn't know up there
if we, you got a chance to see it.
Is out?
No, no, no, no, no.
Come out of the third.
No, no, it's not out yet.
I didn't know that if they sent it through yet.
No, no, but, but trying to make it down us
feel like an underdog was a big, was a big deal.
You know what I mean?
And that's what we tried to retain.
So like you were saying, like, you know,
watching movies like that,
we have responsibility of storytellers to create characters
that's going to inspire, you know what I'm saying?
And make the youth feel like they can do
anything right because you know everybody doesn't have the same luxury of having you know mom
and dad at home no a lot of people don't and having that type of home environment you know what I'm
saying so there's one related relatable thing is like you know you know underdog nature everybody
feels like they got something to prove you know what I'm saying in the world so just movies like
this is super important you go to prison you go you come back you're trying to figure out life
all types of things you drug addiction we all go through their moments in life whereas though
because you know life life don't take it easy on nobody and sometimes
life put foot to A by the ass so it's like
you know you feel that moment where you just
down and you count yourself
out you feel as though people count you out
and are you like I got to come back
and ain't nothing like a story
like Rocky to show like man anything
is possible especially when you living here like
you get anything off if you breathe me
you got a shot now being
a director right you go from
creating these this franchise
unbelievable but to being a director
and that's a whole lot
is it anybody that as you
you came up that you was focusing all you was watching or getting game from us
any director that gave you direct game that was like this how you I'm talking about
not on the set I'm talking about in your personal life when you got with him and he set you
down who was that person I mean it was a few man honestly and directing was something that
it was let me be clear you know the acting all this shit was never really something
how I was as a kid I was like yo that's what I want to do yeah it's always been like moving
with my gut intuition and what like the you know fate would have it like where my path kind
led me like one step after another and I was like all right I'm here but once I started like
understanding like you know the entertainment game and acting and seeing like I used to want to be
a you know a director of photography or a camera operator I enjoy just like setting up the shot you know
and what that felt like you know I'm saying editing at certain points you know so so for me once
once I once I started getting the seeds of like all right Ryan coogler you know doing
Fruitvale station somebody that looked like me same close to the same age yeah um
doing a feature length movie like wow
I was like crazy he like Mike you know you can do that too
right all right so that shit started to like
yeah creep into my head yeah over time over time
and then as I as I started to like grow within the franchise
I kind of figured this would be like the perfect opportunity
for me to do it nobody knows the character as well as me
you know I played them the most um
but when I started prepping for Creed 3
I would say Ryan Coogler is definitely one of them
you know I'm saying that's easy that's big bro you know I'm saying he's there
Denzo Washington I just got finished doing journal for Jordan
you know what I'm saying with Denzel and he directed
so I was always asking him a bunch of questions
he knew I was prepping for this movie so he would give
hell a game. What's some of great advice that
Denzel personally gave you? And it had
you open your mind up more from Denzel? I mean
honestly it was
storyboarding
like he gave me my storyboard artist
for my movie like he literally called me
called him his storyboard artist on set
you know what I'm saying from rehearsal one day was like hey yo listen
I need you to hire this dude I was like alright cool
it's over because like storyboarding
is like pretty much when you
basically like draw out you know i'm saying and like panels like shot for shot what the scene
is like kind of going to look like it kind of gives everybody an idea of what you know what they're
doing each department kind of knows okay cool they're going to be sitting in the seat and drivers
passenger seat in the driver's seat cool um cameras from the back seat oh that's going to be
the shot that they end up recreating on a day so like storyboarding was like super super
important to me um bradley cooper was another guy that i talked to a lot about i wanted to talk
to like actor directors yeah you know what i'm saying because like
being able to be in front of the camera and directed at the same time
with something that not just a director
that was going to be able to give me advice on.
So, like, those cats were really, really important.
Ben Affleck was somebody really important.
John Favro was another director throughout the Marvel franchises.
Like, he's, like, super, like, hands-on and incredible
within the Disney Marvel world.
And one of the advice that really stands out to me
that kind of universally said was don't feel guilty
for watching while you're in the scene.
What I mean by watching is like, you know,
when you're acting, you're supposed to be 100% present
for your scene partner.
You know what I'm saying?
You're not worried about the camera.
You're not worried about, you know what I'm saying?
The microphone or the cup of the phone, none of that stuff.
So naturally when you're directing,
you slowly being like, hey, I'm going back and forth with you.
And I'm like, oh, man, that's bothering me.
So you slowly start to move shit out the way.
And you're like, you're perfecting the scene while you're in it.
And that's something as an actor director that
could get in the way. And he told me just
like, look, don't feel bad about it. You know what I'm saying?
The cast, the crew, everybody knows like your burden.
They know what you're tasked to doing.
So just do what you got to do.
And that was something that really helped me out when I started
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like when you want to set
and it's and you know
you got a lock in as an actor
okay because I had
the pleasure shout out to the big homie Ving Rames
he put me in about seven or eight movies
and when I first got there
I didn't know what to do
you know but I seen when
it was time for him to shoot there
give you 30 Ving you're 20 minutes out
and everybody
got to get away now.
Yeah, yeah.
Now he locks in and he goes all the way into character before he hits the set.
Now, I did his movie with Steven Seagull.
He was totally different.
It was like, tell me what's the next line?
All right, action.
What's the next line?
All right.
So it's like, when it's time for you to hit the set.
Is it more like Ving?
He says it more like a...
He's more like...
He's more like...
He's like, I'm locked and I know what stuff.
No, because like usually the characters I'm playing,
you know, each movie's different.
These characters are different.
You know what I'm saying?
You're not going to go all the way in each character.
You know what I'm saying?
It doesn't call for it sometimes.
There's some television roles and like, you know,
guest appearances where, you know,
sometimes you might...
I don't say not phoning in,
but I understand actors that's like,
all right, I don't need to be all in right now
in this moment.
What's the line?
What's the next?
You ever see that happen before?
No, no, I have.
1,000 percent.
But every actor has their process.
Like, as long as you get to where you need to get to and you get it,
when you need to get, every actor has their own, like, you know, you know what I'm saying,
like, you know, process and getting into character.
Have you seen that before?
1,000%.
But it's like, killmonger, you're not, I'm not doing that.
You know what I'm saying?
Kilmonger, I'm locked in.
You know what I'm saying?
Every step of the way.
You know what I'm saying?
When I'm playing Brian Stevenson, you know what I'm saying?
And Just Mercy, I got to go all the way in.
You got to go all the way in.
You got Jamie Fox acting opposite me.
He's, like, totally becoming, you know what I'm saying?
That character, I can't be that guy on set.
It's like, you know, hey, what's my line again?
You know what?
Granted, we all fuck up.
We all go up at a moment.
No, but Stevenson Gold was going line for line.
Next line.
Get out, you bastard.
Get out, you bastard.
Next slide.
I'm like, wait, how is they going to put all this shit together?
Yeah.
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Smith, Michael B. Joyne, how do you feel about that?
I mean, that's a crazy list.
Now, how do you feel that your name is going to be mentioned?
Oh, that's, that's, man, that's, you know.
And you're young.
You still, you know how much your shit.
You still got it still.
You still got a lot of, now you're directing, so it's like, now your mind ready to be running.
Scripts going to be, like, it's going to get crazy now.
Yeah.
So you still, you're still heating up.
warming up. I feel like I just got here.
That's why I feel like I'm not worthy to be
named amongst
those other people, you know what I'm saying?
Because for me, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm humble
that cats, you know what I'm saying? I feel like I'm in
that category or I'm working towards that.
But for me, it's like I've always been to do
where people got to tell me, Mike, slow down
and like, you know, look around a little bit. You know what I'm saying?
Smell the flowers a little bit, man. Like you, like
enjoy the moment. I got to remind
myself of that. You know what I'm saying? Because
where I come from, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, and I'm not trying to, not trying to go back, but it's that, you know, you're used to not having a lot.
You know what I'm saying?
So when you do get accolades, you know, I very rarely just stand around a marvel at it.
I just want to kind of move forward and, like, what's the next thing?
Like, I'm ambitious.
You know, I'm hungry.
Like, I like to build things.
I like to build things for other people.
I like to build platforms and, like, that's why I started a production company.
So, you know, I can't do every movie.
I can't play every role.
Like, you see these headlines coming out.
I'm going to, playing this.
And he's doing that.
And he's doing this.
Like, I can't, there's no way.
I could do them all.
You know what I'm saying?
You have a company.
Outlier Society?
No, it's another one.
Obsidian Works.
Shout out to Acidion Works.
Now, the reason I'm going to say shout out to them is I'm the cultural advisor over there, YouTube.
I created a program called YouTube Avenues.
We used Obsidian Works.
And they came through each city.
We went to Philadelphia, Detroit, D.C., Oakland, Oakland, and Houston.
And I'm telling you, they division.
They materialized.
division that we have for YouTube Avenues.
YouTube Avenues is a program where we go to
inner cities of America and we educate people on how to
monetize on the YouTube platform, how to
grow their page and all
that stuff. And Bobby and them.
Bobby and Chad is everybody. The whole
crew, I says everybody that came through
like they came through and they really like
that means a lot to me.
They would turn, they would turn, they could turn
the basement in the inner city of America
into magic. Whatever you
wanted to be. Like magic. I'm talking
with the way they lay the stage out, the way to
the screen was i'm talking about the the merch the the logo everything was just like city and works
was just like it was just unbelievable man appreciate that was that was crazy that means a lot
yeah they're doing anything and that was something that you know me chad chad you know i'm known
him since i was like you know 12 13 years old from north you know uh went to hampton um you know
worked over at nike you know for a long time and you know he quit nike to start this company
with me you know what i'm saying and built that up so the kind of faith that he has to leave the
stability of a company being at nike for almost 10 years you know what I'm saying
the go start the startup company and believe in that
and the vision of that to hear you
give me that feedback is
it's a lot and I'm talking about
you got we probably got like
thousands of people came through our program
loved that each city it was
it was hundreds of people turned out
and the production
just the whole
it was put together really well
unbelievable I'm too unbelievable
I'm like I know you're humble
yeah humble you know you
it's hard to you know
live in your fruit
right now
What, nigger, you got voted
The sexiest nigga on the planet
How do you do that?
It's hard to be humble
When you like, Mama, I'm the baddest nigga, I'm
That's hard
That's hard, man
They all love me, Mama
That's hard
And you try to act like it ain't enough
But you got to take the photo shoot
You got to be on the cover
You know what I mean, you sure, Frank
Just just so you know
Before you got here, right?
I said,
What the fuck's going on here today?
Because it's women lined up right here.
It's women all out here.
They were hiding in cabinets and closures on the table and shit.
I said, do the whole bars still know that Mike's coming in the day?
They said, yes.
I said, okay.
It explains why all these goddamn women just walking.
We didn't interview everybody right here.
They never came and checked to see if it was snacks in here.
Is it snacks in?
Yeah, all the type of stuff.
What the fuck is going on?
What's going?
Wow.
Oh, the sexiest man in life.
You had control
That's crazy, man
That's crazy man
The sexiest
Let me ask you a question
There's no way in the world
When you was a young
But growing up in Newark
You thought that
You thought
I'm gonna be the sexiest
You're on planet earth
No
Mike
Where did you go ahead after this
Mike?
It's over after that
There's no accomplishment
That I don't think
That you can achieve
That could be bigger
it being the sexiest
Nick on the planet
they're going to change the name
the sexiest dick on the planet
they're going to change that shit
they're going to change it
they gotta change it
because it's like
it's like
it's you know
it's a catch 22
you think you want that shit
but all it does
is get your homies over there
just this ammo to talk shit
they even give
they just talk shit
oh you're pretty boy now
oh you're pretty boy now
this sexy
motherfucker over here
boring drinking tea
this sexy dick and drinking tea
what
I just drink tea.
I'm just drinking tea.
You can't do nothing.
Oh, he drank wine now.
Look how you just saw.
Pinky's got a sexy.
Like what?
Same shit you've been doing, but now all of a sudden you got voted the sexiest man.
On you every day.
That's it.
Look at him.
His pinky finger out why he's talking.
Look at it.
Look how he's here.
You got extra waves now.
They'd be killing him.
They'd be destroying you every day.
But that's the fun part about it, man.
And it's cool to get the accolades and all that good stuff, man.
But it's, it's, um, then right after that,
You know, who came, who's next?
Who was that?
Jet Appet?
No, Paul Rudd.
Paul Rudd was the next cat right after that.
So, you know, not taking nothing away from Paul Rudd, but you know what I'm saying?
Paul ain't a sexy.
I'm just saying, they're just saying.
I should have been a two-time sexy.
Yeah, that's how he is.
Mike went back to back to back.
Yeah, why I can't go.
Now, you know what's so great is even stuff like that.
It's like, well, in order to keep you cool and to stay focused and to keep your
gram a lot of people don't understand what got you there is what you got to keep doing and
keep going to the top yeah but Hollywood is so powered up the parties the extraterrestrial all
this stuff how do you stay focused because you because you come from the east coast
yeah and one thing about that east coast grind is different because we got we got all we got all
we go through all the seasons it's just harder yes it's not easier and it's like how do you
stay focused and say you know what that's cool it's all right I might got to show up in certain
places but this shit ain't for me i say this i say that all the time to people i was like yo the east
coast cats they just we just do better out west because we're coming with that grit because like
it's because it's cold because we deal with snow we have people on a day-to-day basis on the trains
and subways and buses and like just walking through the streets in new york like it's a different
grind and la's you know it's a little bit more laid back you know what i'm saying it it does have
an effect on your ambition sometimes out there and and for me just coming from where i come from bro
and like just understanding that
man I'm built different
period
I'm built different man
and I've always had an eye
discipline and a work ethic
that I've had at a young age
that I just kind of
I just apply it to everything that I
that I want to do
so I would say that
you know
rarely go out
you know reading you know I'm saying
trying to reverse engineer
how to be successful like how do I
you know start my own production company
how do I do this how do that and I always felt like
if other cats was out partying I was home studying
and I would have an edge.
Yes.
You know what I'm saying?
If Cass is out here doing this and that
being hung over the night before,
I would have an edge if I wasn't.
Did I go out and party?
Yeah.
Did I have a good time?
Yes.
You know what I'm saying?
Sexiest nigga on earth.
Yeah.
How you mean?
Morgan to a bar,
shirt, crack.
Drink for everybody.
This is man here.
I just got some talking wheat.
Yeah.
This shit just came in.
This shit just came in.
So he's showing it.
He advertised in that Joe.
He got this shirt right here.
About 4-5.
That's going to crack right here.
I named him.
name them you know what I'm saying they name it that's crazy man no but like I think for me it's
always been like a work I've always had all right if I'm eating food I'll save the best for
last you know what I'm saying I'll eat around it to the one part that I really want I want to eat I'm
I'm gonna save that I'm like I'm a delay you know what I'm saying gratification I'm that type of
person so like I'm literally like all right I will party later I work hard now so the second
half of my life I can do whatever the fuck I want that's that's that's been my mentality
I'm not going to trick off my early years for partying.
It didn't worry about struggling how I'm going to make it,
how I'm going to take care of my family,
how I'm going to take care of everybody else.
Like, that's not going to be me.
I'm going to grind it out now.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to set up the foundation so I can enjoy myself later.
That's always been my mentality.
And that is what that works for me.
It works for me too because I figure you get the money now
then you go out with a bank.
It is.
Because you know where ain't nobody pulling a U-Haul truck
with your money up behind the behind your hearse.
The Hearst ain't got, nope, nope, nope, not at all.
And that's something Denzel says all the time.
You know what I'm saying?
And I've been blessed to be around cats who gave me the game and wisdom
and just told me like it is.
And I was just open enough to listen.
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Is it anybody you want to do a movie with
that you haven't yet?
Any actor in the world?
Oh, man.
Leonard DiCaprio.
Now, see, that's some shit.
Yeah.
You and...
I want to work with Leo.
Do you all know each other?
We do.
Oh, so it's going to happen then.
I think so.
You know what I'm saying?
It's so many things have to happen.
You know what I'm saying?
It's going to be in the right place.
for a movie to go down, you know what,
scheduling, you know,
all that good stuff.
But, yeah,
I want to rock out with,
with Leo.
How long did it take you to get through
the fake Hollywood stuff?
What you mean?
Like, we gonna get together.
Make sure you get with me.
Call me, call my people.
No, no, no.
I'm gonna get with you.
It's, it's,
I'm still going through that shit right now.
Hey, how are you going to?
Now, I'm like, yeah, call me.
Call my people.
Now I'm on the time.
Yeah, he's like, get with me.
I'm going to make,
I'll put you in a listen.
I'll put you in a,
Somebody they see you.
You're going to be, listen.
You're going to be in Creed 4.
I got you.
Make sure you get with me.
Get with me tomorrow.
Mike, I ain't got your number.
No, they're going to DM.
It's cool.
It's cool.
It's cool.
It's cool.
Nah, man.
It's one of those things where you, like, it's,
bro, again.
That's crazy.
When I tell people, when people ask me about getting in the industry, I'm like,
yo, my pathway is not.
It's not normal.
It's not normal.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not, I mean, nobody has like,
it's no blueprint to this shit.
You know what I'm saying?
But at the same time, I didn't really
This is why
Creed 3 was so important to me, you know what I'm saying?
And, like, telling the story
because that's survivor's guilt, you know what I'm saying?
That, like, you know, you know, do you deserve your blessings?
You know what I'm saying?
Impasta syndrome.
Those are all things that I've experienced
and went through coming through where I come from where I come from.
So, like, my pathways, you know,
that's why used to work so hard?
I'm like, nah, no, I booked this job,
and then I booked the next one,
and I booked the next one.
Like, why not this person and that person?
I can't go out and party.
I got to keep ground.
I got to make myself, like, feel the hard work.
So I would, like, grind it out.
You know what I'm saying?
The discipline, like, that gave me a sense of me deserving the blessings that I got.
Right.
And I don't know why, you know what I'm saying?
But, but that's what kind of kept me locked in.
So I say that to say, there's been a lot of Hollywood cast.
Yeah, yeah, we'll talk later.
Cool, cool, cool.
And there's a lot of cast that followed up.
Yeah.
There's a lot.
I followed up again.
You know what I'm saying?
Somebody say, oh, yo, yeah, we'll, you know, yeah, we'll meet up later for lunch.
Yeah, yeah, he hit my people.
Cool.
I went out and found who their people was
and preached out to him and said
Hey yo look your man said X, Y and Z
I'm following up oh snap
Cool don't get an answer
I show up to the office
Cool I'm that type of cat
You know what I'm saying
So like that was the mentality always been
I wasn't waiting on nobody to give me anything
So to all the youngans out there
That's listening you can't accept no for an answer
No you cannot
No only means next opportunity
Yep
And you gotta be obsessed about something
You know I mean like people cats around
They're so distracted with so many things
with social media is the worst bro it's the worst thing ever and it's obviously there's a lot of
benefits to it but at the same time it's a lot of distractions how often you being on social
media every once in a while you know what I'm saying like obviously I like you know my algorithm
crazy he can't go on that one like I miss a lot of that stuff you know I'm saying I got other people
handling my accounts and stuff like that so I'm not really on it like that often but I like
you know I'm cooking videos I got save folders nothing like cooking videos or like you know nature
algorithms or something like you know random dance videos stuff like that he want to see he want to see
alligators eat lions he went to e-be-seeing all day i've seen that to them all day i've seen this hawk
pick up this kid that's all he did oh man i saw that too yes i did but now that i was like what
but now that i think about it though y'all got something in common no you know yes sure i don't like
you i don't like the look no yes y'all do you the women voted you the sexiest man on the planet
and the inmates voted him the sexiest man in prison that's crazy he's a hated
Wait, how long y'all...
That's my cousin, man.
That's my old cousin.
I love this shit.
You know, he went to jail when he was 17, and he did 20 years.
He came home when he was 37.
And today, today, it would be six years.
Six years out of prison.
Today?
Yeah.
Hey, man, hey.
Appreciate that, bro.
Yeah, you know.
Six years, so I'm proud of him.
Just trying to show people is another way.
Man, yo, I really want you to, I can't wait for you to see this movie.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
I already know who he came out of jail, you know what I'd be?
It's a lot in there.
But he going to think he'd do that.
No, no, no, because when I seen the previews, right, when I seen the previews, when I seen it, when I seen it, when I seen the previews and shout out to Jonathan Major, he's a hell of an actor.
Well, hell of an actor.
But when I seen the previews, it was something that was in there that was so realistic that you capture.
A lot of times when brothers come home from jails and inner cities, it be this entitlement, it'd be this y'all left me.
It'd be that whole mindset of y'all left me, y'all abandoned me.
And people come home, they'd be have a lot of hatred in their heart.
And it'd be a lot of envy for the people that evolved.
Because, you know, when you go to prison, life goes on.
It was, you know, I went to jail, and it was people that never went to jail.
I come home.
They're doing great.
Some of them, in that 20 years, they didn't work and retired and got big homes and going
on vacations, but family got kids.
You come home.
You ain't got nothing.
You know, all you got is memories of who you used to be, or you might have a couple
with a homie still around, but you're always going to have one or two good
homies that did right.
And if you're not strong enough, the envy could kick in of what they created,
sort of like the movie.
And now you're looking at them like,
they're your enemy.
And it's like, you've got this whole world out here.
You made the decisions that you made to go down,
but you don't want to be accountable for them.
So you got to blame other people
because it's always easier to say you over me.
Yep.
And I mean, so to see that,
when I see that energy,
I say, oh, this is going to be crazy.
Because I note that,
and the point that you know,
and I know anybody from the hood know
that happened all the time
when somebody come on from jail.
Yep.
They mad at the world.
That's the one thing I can give him credit for.
He took total accountability.
for all the actions he did
he didn't blame nobody while he was
there he didn't blame nobody when he came
home he didn't come home with no attitude
he didn't come home with no entitlement
he came home like I'm breathing
I got another chance and I'm trying to be great
because and whatever I got to do
to put this message out there to the youth
that it costs too much to be a criminal
that's what I'm gonna do
and I see it all the time man I see your Instagram post
man I see the stuff that you doing bro and it's like every time
I see I end up sending to Joe you know what I'm saying
I send it to my partner
He's like, you're about to cry.
He ain't get out of his shit.
It ain't getting sensitive with Mike and shit.
You look at Mike all of the eyes.
Look at the sexist man in the eyes.
I ain't about to cry and shit.
I ain't look even in the eyes, man.
Don't do that.
I ain't look even look even in the eyes.
Don't even look even in the eyes.
I ain't even look at Mike.
He's giving him his props, man.
I'll be watching you.
He's saying you like this red crying on me.
Mike's seeded it too.
Mike did the shit.
I ain't getting in this shit.
He lying on me, man.
This boy lying on him.
Listen.
So, so.
So at the end of the day, it's like, with this right here, like, this is, this, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is worth a game, business spotlight.
This one, this one empower, business spotlights.
We got D-I, we got card on here.
We got that tax.
We got that credit.
Listen, they just did a big, I'm talking about a big class to get the bad class.com.
Go to get the bad class.com right now.
Listen, they're going to bless you.
They're going to bless you with a bunch of free stuff.
It's going to be free.
And what's the free stuff?
And what's the free stuff?
y'all bless them with them, get the bag,
get the bag, class.com.
Yeah, I'm giving them my free time.
My tax free living e-book
because it has 200 tax deductions
that they can use in any business today.
What you're giving them,
D?
Yeah, I'm going to get on the free Metro 2 credit e-book
and we're just going to show them how to get the bag.
I'm going to show them how to get the bag.
How to go to the bank and say,
run me my bread.
And then that same break,
he's going to show them how to keep that bread.
But what I like about you all is this,
teamwork make the dream work.
Max.
And some days, Dion, he's going to be Batman.
Some days Carter are going to be Robin.
and some days Carter going to be Batman
and some days Deion are going to be Robin
and y'all just on your game
and y'all really out here hard
Like that last class
You're always Rob, you're always Robin
Some days he won the woman
You always Robbins
I'm Batman
Yeah man
Yeah yeah the last class we did man
It was powerful
We helped pump a half a million dollars
In business funding into the black community
With our last class
They helped them save over $200,000 in taxes
So that's like $750,000 of money
that have been pumped into the black community
off our class man and this is bigger than us we know that our people are held back from a lack of
information and we don't want that to be um a problem anymore we understand that information change
situations um and we're going to give them the information that they need and like y'all said we understood
that you know what i'm saying there was currency and collaboration so we said if we could come together
and help people understand how to manage their money how to get their credit right what to go get the
money from and how to save money on their taxes we can create a lot of generation well that's what we
really going after as a culture and so we just came together to
to really make that, not just something that we talk about,
but actually make it a reality.
You know what I mean?
So when we held these classes, man, the room was to capacity.
It was people texting us, emailing us, DMing us,
I can't get in the room.
It was packed because this is the information that people need.
So we're giving y'all what y'all need.
We just need y'all to tap in.
That's it.
And y'all had Wallow on there.
He was talking so crazy.
You nigs ain't let me in the brunt.
Bro, we didn't know you were there, bro.
He didn't even have no name on his show.
He didn't even have no name on the show.
He had iPhone.
He had iPhone.
I'm just saying.
93.
I'm just saying, talk us talk and doers do
And they're doing it
You know, I was there as a
You know, I was supposed to be there
As somebody that was speaking
But, you know, it turned into I was there
As just a participant in the class
And it was, it was, it was, it was, it was
He was there just one of my groupies, you know what I mean?
It was just, you got groupies?
Yeah, you, you're a male groupie.
You got groupies though?
He was a groupie.
Yeah, groupies in prison, nigger.
But the thing is, the thing is, these guys
It's really not playing.
I was on their class.
I'm talking about it was a major class.
People were so locked in.
A lot of times when you see classes,
you see people in there,
they eat in, they sleep in,
they got their screen.
It was,
they was locked in.
They was locked in to the information,
you know,
and I think that's very important.
I think just the information
that you're all pushing out
and the way y'all come together,
y'all came together
and said, no,
we're going to push this together
because we're waving the same flag
is to help people.
Yeah, facts.
So if you're trying to help people,
that's the best way to do it.
Connect together and just do your thing.
Y'all doing it, man.
Yeah, and give them that, uh, y'all need to go get the bad class, get the bad class.com.
And they're going to give you a bunch of, it's just filled with information.
It's filled with live classes on there that you're going to want to deal with jumping into.
And it's just, it's just jumping.
Now, outside of helping them people, what is, what is coming up next?
Because y'all always got something, you know, Deanna might call me, yeah, I'm working on this.
I got this.
And he won't say too much, but you've got to get my people.
What's coming up next?
What's the next thing y'all going to do for the people, man?
I mean, you know, we got the software to play, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm actually in the process.
I actually just launched a new Metro 2 compliant software where I'm literally showing people step by step
how to not only repair their own credit, but to help other people repair their credit.
They can make some money doing it at the exact same time.
And it's a dumb for you software.
We're like one click of a button.
You can literally upload your credit profile and it will do all the work for you.
So you don't have to try to figure it out, what letter do I use?
Do I use 609, 611?
That's all that trash.
That's all that gurus teaching all that.
We're going to give you real tangible information that you can use.
This is why people was lining up and our classes was packed because some people preach and some people teach.
See, we was teaching.
We was teaching the people real step by step.
Like, we're sharing our screen.
Like, I showed people a play.
I gave them a play where you can go to Wells Fargo, less than two years in bids, and you get up to $50,000 unsecured line of credit.
I was literally walking people through that step by step on the car.
And they're like, yo, I just got $20,000.
I just got $20,000.
I got $30,000.
We get people funded live, real time on the car.
But this is information that people don't know, but I'm walking them through not only where to go get the
bag by how to apply and like step by step i'm showing them all of the fine print i'm showing them how to
read it how to apply what not to apply for and like really like tangible information so it's a difference
between getting on there you're just talking talking talking but it's a different when you actually
are on there you changing lives right right and then so when he's teaching how to get the money i
teach him what to do with the money or to keep the bag right so one of the plays i gave uh some of the
students in the room is that it's crazy that we were taught to like go to college and pay 100 000
for college, right, to go learn from somebody who is not doing what we want to do or not
being who we want to be, right? And we can't write off that, we can't write that off on our taxes
because college tuition is not tax deductible. A little bit is, but not a lot. But we can
go pay a billionaire like Tony Robbins, a billionaire like Grant Cardone. We can go pay somebody
who's doing what we want to do and being who we want to be. We can go pay a coach and that
money is 100% tax deductible to us as business owners. So we were teaching them how,
now you got the money, now you can use this money to invest in yourself, invest in the
Instead of investing in the S&P 500, you can invest in the SME 500, and you can get a tax deduction for investing in the coach.
It's going to teach you how to turn that $10,000 into $100,000 into $200,000.
So there's a way that I use business credit to pay for my mentors.
I get a tax right off, and then when I make the money back, I pay my loan off with the money that I made for my mentor.
So I'm learning and I'm earning without using any of my own money.
I'm going to tell you, these things want to be rappers, though.
I'm going to keep catching them throwing his bars out there.
I'm learning, and I'm learning.
You know what it is
It's like this
At the end of the day
I think people need to understand
What's the importance of mentors
Because you said
Faith of Mentor was you kick that bread out
Yeah
And information
What's the important to that?
Yeah
Yeah I mean I think that
You cannot teach
What you do not know
And you cannot lead
Where you did not go
Yeah
You know what I'm saying
So that if I don't know
Something I need to go
Find somebody who knows it
Like if you get the receipts
If I want to learn
How to get the YouTube game
I'm gonna pay you
Whatever you cost
To teach me how to do
What you do
how to know what you know.
So, like, we can take, like, how you say you can learn on your own, take the slow
boat to China, right?
Or you can get a mentor and get your success fast, you know?
Yeah, for me, I look at a mentor, it's like the cheat code.
It's like, it's like your navigation system.
If I was to ask you guys, would you get in your car right now, don't care what car it is,
would you get in your car right now and draft from here to Chicago?
You're probably going to just say, no, right?
What's, what you're going to, you're going to use the GPS, right?
So I'm going to use the GPS.
Why would we use GPS?
Why would you use the GPS to drive from here from Philly to Chicago?
Why?
Because I need to know the directions to get there.
I don't know.
You're going to get there the fastest.
Okay.
All right, cool.
It's the same thing.
A mentor is just like a GPS.
So why would you try to start or get in the business and go from a 9-and-5 to being a business owner without somebody guiding you in the right direction?
You need to get you a mentor and let them be your GPS to get you from where you're currently at to where you're looking to go to like you said because I don't know where I'm going.
I ain't ever been there.
I want to get there the fast.
I want to get there the safest.
And then if I get lost, a GPS does what?
It redirects me.
It redirects you.
So if you're trying to run a business, you take.
You make a wrong turn, you make a mistake, and you lose some money.
You go to your mentor and say, well, how do I fix this situation?
What do I do?
How do I get myself back on track?
Because they've been there and they've got experience.
You're paying for that experience.
So you don't have to make all of the same mistakes.
But if you just make one, a mentor reroute you.
It reroute you.
How many motherfuckers you don't reroute it?
Man, thousands.
Yeah.
Thousands.
You had a lot of motherfuckers in that room.
But here's the truth.
If your mentor don't have a mentor, you got a problem.
See, I got a mentor too.
Who are your mentor?
You know, my boy, Neo Davis, Myron Golden, you know, just to name a couple.
It costs me a lot of money, too.
Yeah.
But I'll pay that proudly because I know that I'm paying to play.
Shout out to Neo, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And let me just say, I bet y'all didn't know who Neo mentor was.
Who?
Me.
So you niggas could just come to me.
I'm going to tell you.
When Neo, Neo got me in his phone is Morpheus.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
When he called me, like, you know.
Because you got a big fucking head.
I'm fucking out of, man.
Red pill, blue pill.
No, but, you know, and that's what it is.
Even sometimes, sometimes people don't have
to finances to pay for a mentor.
Sometimes you be having mentors in your life that already
be giving you information and gain to enlighten you
and take you to another level wherever's an aunt,
reverber's an uncle, a big cousin, a sister.
Sometimes people already have people lined up in their life.
Sometimes we've got to start highlighting them people
that bring us value.
Because we don't do that.
We only highlight the negativity.
So we're highlight, oh,
man this happened and this happened to me this person said this fuck all that who's bringing the
value and we got to be willing to accept that anybody could give you some game anybody you know
people a lot of times only want to take advice for motherfuckers that they feel is doing better than
them yeah thanks so it's like you try to tell me something nigga you broke yeah but he had money
before he went through a lot of money before he definitely tell you how not to fuck that money
up that's a fact so you know sometimes motherfuckers be having good mentor
and good guidance right there, but they just
don't be wanting to listen.
You know, motherfuckers be blocking the jail cells
on their ears, man.
Yeah, yeah. And one thing that
while you are as preach is like, you know,
what's your relationships like, right?
You know what I think that's got huge.
So, like, you know, we did the class,
they didn't just get us.
They got our relationships.
You know, you came in, Gil came in,
we didn't let you on stage,
but Gil came in.
But we're saying, I came in.
You don't nobody know I was there.
You said the equipment up.
You set my equipment up, baby.
You set my mic up.
You see you to give a niggins some money.
They're giving a niggins of money now you got groupies.
Set my mic up, man.
You're not going to add.
Talk about you.
Yeah.
But what's so important about that?
We have people like walk street trap.
But the students got our relationship and not our knowledge, right?
So it's very important that you understand.
Like, when you get in the room, like, when you come to get the bad class.
com, that you get us, you get the game.
But we also bring in other people to bring sauce as well because we understand that it's
collaboration over competition and the more game that we can give them for free.
The class is free.
The more game we can get them for free, the better up everybody going to be.
That's major, man.
I ain't going to lie that he's about to rap again.
He's been rapping all this.
It's collaboration over fabrication.
Oh, they're going to wrap it all day, man.
I think he's about to go on his right on the chef bag.
I got them, I got them two pretty put the mixtape together.
I'm talking about to get all this free game from them.
Go to get the bagclass.com.
Get the bagclass.com.
Get to bag class.
You want to get the bag.
Everybody's chasing the bag.
But it's nothing like getting information that you can utilize and they give it to you free.
You don't got to, you know, you ain't got to pay for nothing.
None of that.
They will give it to you free.
If you want to go to some other places, they can do that too.
Yeah.
But the fact that you could go and just grab what you want and dip, and then you go teach.
Yeah.
Facts.
Facts.
I think you should get one more credit play for the people.
I got you.
I can do that.
Y'all want another credit play?
All right, cool.
So this is one that had the people going crazy in the room as well.
And this is this.
You guys got to follow this play along.
I give you guys the F&BO play.
That's First National Bank of Omaha, right?
So you go to FNBO.com.
You hit the menu, the business menu button at the top.
Click on credit.
cards you get two bags with one inquiry from this bank right so when you click on that here's
here's the zip code you got to enter you can't even get into the website because they do what's
called geoffensive which means you got to live or have a zip code in the area of that particular
bank in order to get in the website so one of the zip codes you can put in this 68026 that'll let
you inside of the website then you apply and put all your real information right but here's the play
they're going to pre-qualify you and they're going to let you know how much you get approved for
right if i got approved it how much so now you get to determine whether you really want
the bagging out without them even running your credit right then what you can do is you go
before you hit approved because some some of the times what we're seeing is that they're not
approving some people on the back end because you don't really live in that area right but here's
the play if you're a business owner you know what you're doing you can just go to iposto1.com
and you get your virtual address in that particular zip code in that area this is a play right
so you already know what they're going to qualify you for just go read to see your bids underneath
that particular zip code right on iposted1.com and then you go back and go ahead and grab that back
but then they're not going to give you a personal bag but did you get a business credit
bag too. And it's all legit
This is all legit. Yeah. Okay.
You can run your bills from anywhere. Who's going to tell me why?
I can't run my business from, right? So this
is the player. That you're going to get two
bags from one bank. And they're going
pre-qualify. So they're saying, hey, listen, we'll give you $10,000
for your personal. We'll give you $15,000 for your business. Now, you've
just got $25,000, one inquiry from one bank.
Easy money. Well, now I've got to give a play.
You got to get another. Go ahead. I'm a second. You're nothing
that just outdo me on the show, bro. Let's just talk this well.
So real quick, so, as we know,
like, our people love to go shopping. So here's my thing.
If you're going to go shopping, why not have the IRS to help pay for some of your bills?
Then why not write off your clothes and your taxes?
So here's a play for anybody that wants to go shopping.
I want to write off their clothes.
First of all, first of all, you have to have a business, right?
So everybody, if you want to win the game of taxes, you have to have a business.
So if you have a business and you go shopping and you get your business logo visibly stitched or pressed on your clothing, right?
You get to a business logo visibly stitched or pressed in your clothing.
That is no longer a clothing expense.
that is an advertising expense.
So now being a business owner,
you can write off the cost of the clothing,
the cost of the stitching,
and every time you take the clothes to the cleaner.
So all the million dollars with the game hoodies,
all the wallow hats,
those are tax deductible in your business
as advertising expense
because you're a walking advertisement
for your business.
So my thing is if you're going to look good,
why not look good in your own clothing,
write it off and bring business back to your business.
We only are shit in the shit we represent.
You know, you know what I'm saying?
So like instead of buying,
instead of like, you know,
buying designer,
Why don't you build your own brand, get a write-off, and enjoy the free marketing?
And so that's the play, a tax play for them as well.
You know why they don't do that?
Why?
Because they're too busy worried about what's on their body instead of what's in their body.
They ain't thinking growing rich.
That's true.
That's true.
Hey.
Now they've got the information to do so.
Yeah.
Well, they just get y'all multiple plays on how to get paid.
And y'all need to go to get the bad class.com.
Get the bad class.com.
Get the bad class.com.
And they're going to sprinkle you all with a bunch of game for free.
Most importantly, they said they're going to help you get the bag.
But they're going to help you keep the bag.
That was most importantly.
That part.
Because a lot of nigs get the bag and they down Kensington on that duke.
Fumbling.
They fumbled the bag.
Yeah, me.
I'm talking about fumbled that motherfucker like Tiki Bable.
Yeah, I mean.
Yes.
I don't even know if Tiki Barber really fumbled a lot.
Oh, but he seemed confident, though.
He played for, uh...
The rest is, right?
No, he played for Giants.
Oh, you all.
Okay, right, right.
I know my stuff.
Yeah, my bad.
Did he have a brother or something?
I think there's another barb in the league.
I think he used to play football upstate with freaky barbers.
I'm just saying.
Tell him the class again.
Listen, man.
Go to get the bag.
Get the bag.
Get the bag.
Clas.com, man, and get the bag.
And they're going to help you get the bag and keep the bag.
It's just like that.
Right.
Now, how excited is you willing about this?
Because this ain't, this ain't the normal creed.
You know what I mean
When this drop on Mars 3rd
This is your baby
Like you created this
Like I do that
Spent three years of my life man
Like you know making this movie
And I feel like I'm still
Oh say that again
Three years in my life
And I'm glad you're saying that
Because we live in the world
Where everything pulls
It happens right now
Like Instagram got anybody
Like right now
You know you'll have a person
To say damn I got a camera
I could do what he do
Like I could be
Because nobody want to wait
You said it took three years
To make a movie
Yep
normally I'm in like you know I'm in and out like maybe six or seven months you know what I'm saying as far as like prep move down there shoot the movie and I'm gone I'm I can able like I can move on to the next project but for this one from like the whole process of like creating you know creating a story building a story you know set design the fights designing and everything and in the pandemic you know going down there pre-production you know scouting shooting editing marketing now and now I'm saying getting ready to the movie to finally get out man yeah
Yeah, man, it's been three years.
And I'm still, I'm going to have some postpartum on this one.
You know what I mean?
Because it's so personal and just you have to obsess over it.
Nobody cares more than you about everything.
So you got to fight for everything.
You got to make the movie is a fight.
You got to fight for your ideas.
You got to fight for your vision.
You got to fight.
You need budget.
The soundtrack.
Staying under.
You know, staying under budget, going over budget.
Asking for more money.
If this happens, that reshoots, no reshoots, this availability, that availability.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, it's fine-tuning, sound, sound editing.
You know, we shot this movie in IMAX.
It's the first sports film to be shot with IMAX cameras, you know what I'm saying?
So we're doing things differently on this one, trying to make them feel bigger.
I love Japanese anime.
You feel?
There's a lot of anime influences in this that I use to help craft, like, a different look and feel for the fights.
So it's just, you know, how do I feel?
You know, I've never felt more alive, you know, or engaged and present on something, you know, with people.
I had to learn how to speak everybody's love language.
You know what I'm saying?
I got, you know, they got 20 people on a set.
That I got to look at me like, Mike, what are we doing?
Right.
And everybody doesn't communicate the same way.
Right.
I got to talk to you different than I talk to you.
You know, this person needs a little bit more time and attention than that person.
That's a lot.
And balancing that and identifying that is like, you know,
is what I understand leadership is.
You know what I mean?
I understand the trickles down from the top.
I can't come in with a bad attitude.
I could be dead, dog-ass tired.
Can't.
First one to set, last one to leave.
You know, but at the same time.
the next morning, I got to step up and be like,
hey, look, this is the tone that we're setting for today.
I got young kids that I'm working with, you know, that's deaf.
You know, ASL, Mila Davis-Kent, phenomenal young actress.
She plays my daughter.
I got to show up for her.
I got to learn ASL.
I got to learn how to talk to her, her interpreters, her family is all deaf.
So just the, you know, the amount of dedication and emotion and energy that I put into this project
is nothing like I've ever experienced before.
You know, I just turned 36.
And I feel like, you know, this is the first time I really feel fully alive and present, and it's no comparison.
Let me have a two-part question for you, right?
How important was it to step out of just being the talent realm into the producing realm?
And the second part of that question is, how much did it mean to you that the people had enough confidence to say, here you go, we believe that you can do this?
Because a lot of people don't go from talent to being producers.
Yeah.
Well, if you're around a project long enough,
if you have a decent team, they're going to fight for a producer credit.
Okay.
Right.
Now, that may be a vanity producer credit.
You know what I'm saying?
That just means you've been on this project long enough,
so we want to, you know, break you in on a little bit more of the points.
On the back end.
You know what I'm back in?
But that doesn't come with any expectation of you being in these meetings.
Right.
Or, like, sitting through script or going through any of the, you know, caring.
Still talent.
Still talent, you know what I'm saying?
So there's that portion.
of it. For me, having real involvement in seeing and caring where I want the story to go,
it meant a lot, you know what I mean? Because being an actor for such a long time, you're just
a piece of somebody else's vision. Right. And you're doing the best job you can to execute
their vision, you know what I'm doing? They're directing it. So having a relationship with
the studio, them seeing the longevity and what I want to build, they know, they know him who I am
and my ambition and what I want to continue to do. They start bringing me in to like, you know,
bigger conversations, and I think that slowly started to unfold and build up to the, to the,
to the idea of directing my own production companies, because it's not just one project.
Like being a producer, you know, on a project is one thing.
Having a production company where you can produce projects and sell throughout the industry
is a totally different thing.
Right. That's, that's the business that I was in.
I was like, okay, cool.
If I see a newspaper article or, you know what I'm saying, your story.
Yeah.
I want to approach you, and I'm like, y'all, I want to buy your life rights
because I want to develop it.
I want to turn into a show.
I want to turn into a movie.
The ability in having a structure to do that is, is, that's, that's what the most
important thing.
The ability to green light things.
What you think is life rights, right?
I'm not even doing this for you.
No, I ain't doing this right now.
I ain't doing this.
You was a petty-ass thief on the jail.
Did a little time, got out, man.
This is what it is right here, Mike, because you hear right now, we're not going to do this.
He is $1,200 for your rights right down.
You ain't got me in 12, honey.
This is we're going to do, Mike.
Because you're here right now,
I'm going to make a deal you can't refuse.
We're going to do the movie.
The name of the movie is, and this is the movie.
There's a document.
Whatever you want to do, I do rather do a movie.
But I think if we do the doc,
we got a good chance of winning an Oscar.
We get slotted and it's going to be powerful.
But the movie is the possibilities after prison.
Me and you, we're going to do the movie.
You didn't let me to fuck out.
No, you're trying to sell them for $1,200.
You want $1,200.
No, we're going to be the do it.
No, you're not doing it.
You're just telling it.
You're talking about $1,200.
We're going to give him $6.6.000.
Get you out of here.
Get your life story, $1,200.
Get you right out of the way.
We're going to produce it.
Because I think in this story there, because the possibilities at the prison is real.
We all know somebody that had been affected by incarceration, but there's a bunch of possibilities,
and I'm living the possibilities on a higher level.
So I think there's something there, but when he's not around, I'm talk to you.
I'm going to get with your people.
Let's do that.
Let's chop it up.
He's not, he going to be off the text.
And all the, he doesn't know how he would talk neither.
Yeah, I know.
I'm dead serious.
I know you're right.
I'm just going to slide him to six.
I already is.
No, we're not doing it.
He's going to give me one of the one line, the contract hits, three lines.
He assigned everything.
I owe your life.
Here, 2100, bet.
Let me go get some joints.
No, we're not doing that.
Dude, go to Deadstock.
Let me get a couple pair of deadstock sneakers with, no, we're not doing that.
You know what I mean?
But no, it's like, right now, shout out to the ACEBCUs.
Yep.
You heavy, you heavily involved.
And I want to shout out to Jackson State.
Shout out to everything that Deion did for Jackson State.
Yes, he was down there.
It was major.
Turned it all way up.
Now, why is your heart there so much?
Explain that.
I mean, my brother went to HBCU.
I grew up around HBCU, you know, going down to the homecomings.
I understand what that culture and that community means to like, you know,
our community and us, you know what I'm saying?
And for me, it was like the challenge of, um, how do I take HBCUs and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,
and put them on a platform that's going to give these college athletes a look
that they normally wouldn't get.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, you have all these, like, you know, we have the best talent.
Yes.
Why are we always going to these other, you know, these other Division I schools instead
of going back into, you know what I'm saying, the HBCU community?
Because we can change the whole structure of it.
Yeah.
Really create a real alumni system so we can actually start having the facility and the funds,
you know what I'm saying, to be able to recruit the way we need to and be able to have
the facilities that, you know, kids from high school.
actually want to end up at a Howard or a Hampton for, you know, athletic means, you know what I'm saying?
And then so having like, you know, having that was, was, was, was, uh, and another reason why I thought
of it, because I was honestly, I was watching the Maui Invitational, I was watching Maui invitation.
I was like, man, I wonder how many, like, you know, black colleges, like, get a chance to
travel outside of the country and playing games like this, you know what I'm saying.
You know what the, you know, the gift packets are looking like, I understand, like, oh,
you know, when they get the Maui, they get in the bags and the winner gets this and that and all
the funds go back to the school.
I'm like, damn, why don't we have anything like that, you know?
So I was trying to start small, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, start.
And then start to build some momentum so ultimately we can have our own invitation.
We can have our own tournament, you know what I'm saying?
It just came from trying to be disruptive, you know what I'm saying, in a positive way.
You know what I mean?
And finding my way through, it's slowly evolving.
I ain't got it all figured out, but I'm slowly gaining some momentum.
Sold out the Prudential Center, which was like, you know, phenomenal.
The first year we did it was in a pandemic.
We didn't, you know, we had great numbers for that.
But this year we really did what we needed to do.
So now it's like, yeah, man, I'm just trying to see where it can go.
Maybe, you know, instead of four teams, you know what I'm saying?
Now we maybe get eight, you know, it gets 16, turn it into a weekend, you know,
offer some classes about coding, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, in financial literacy that we have right now,
entrepreneur, you know, pitch competitions that we're doing.
We're bringing in, you know, different sponsors and brands and now is really wanting
to be involved with this.
So just using the platform as best I can to give these guys a look, you know,
now with the name of likeness, you know, setting off right now.
now these cats can get brand deals.
Okay, well, I'm in Hollywood.
I know brands, you know what I'm saying?
Maybe I can start bringing in a little small brand deals for cats to start getting paid.
So they can start, you know, if they don't go to the league, at least they have something.
Absolutely.
Are we setting up a pension for them in college, you know what I'm saying, in case they get hurt.
You got something to lean back on because all these cats ain't going to the league.
No.
Most of them not.
But if you love ball, maybe you end up, you know, working front office.
There's a lot of, like, jobs that's around the game of basketball.
You can still have the love for it and not actually be on the court.
And still be around the game.
1,000%.
So those are things.
that I'm trying to, like, nurture and build and grow and just get more options,
right?
And it's great that you lean by example because it seemed like you go into these, you know,
partnership with corporations like Walmart like pizza and be like, listen, I'm going to be doing
some things.
Yep.
I want you all help.
Yep.
Because they jumping on board pizza help Walmart and saying, you know what?
We're going to help you in the HBCUs.
We're going to help fund, you know, founders of startups and all that stuff and help them
and support them and take them to the fear.
So it's like, that's major.
And I just salute you for doing it because what we come from, a lot of times, you know,
we receive forward but we never give back.
But you being so huge in the game and doing that,
I'm thinking that's going to influence others to say
it's important for us to get back to our communities and universities
and just our people, man, that need to help
because we don't have a lot of resources.
It's available to a lot of people out there.
Now, when we talk about the Rocky franchise,
what was your favorite movie, Rocky?
Probably four.
You know what I'm saying?
Four, I think, was the one I kind of watched the most.
and then went back and watched the first one
so I think like 4 and 1
probably be my favorites
and then obviously the creeds
or you know I'm biased
you know for me
yeah
favorite Rocky got to be when he said
Adrian
Adrian
And O'Hare
said you're gonna die in there rock
You can't do it
I'm like
Listen always bro
you're going to
Check out.
People would check out.
Rock.
Rock, I can care.
But it's like, when you talk about movies,
what's your favorite movie of all times?
That movie, that had you like,
oh,
probably this movie called Rounders.
Yo!
When they was gambling.
Yeah.
Van Diesel and him.
No, it was.
Rounders.
Is that when they was gambling in the room?
Yeah.
I think of my Baltimore.
My fault I thought about.
Did my Boil room.
Boil room's dope.
Rounders were Matt Damon.
Matt Damon.
Yeah.
Ed Norton.
Still getting him.
Yep, yep, John McAvich.
One of the few movies you watched in prison.
No, that was a day movie.
No movie.
You don't watch no movies.
Listen, I watched that joint.
So when you know something about a movie?
Yeah, that was, listen.
They was gambling, man.
They were in it.
And it was something dope the way, just like the cinematography and the, you know, the lighting.
It was clean.
It was always in a dark room gambling.
And I love the, I love the, you know, the, like over Goodfellas?
my personal movie that I like
I love Goodfellas.
I watch Casino and Goodfellas all day.
You know what I'm saying?
Ginger.
No, he's a little listen to Casino.
But Ginger, he's talking about Ginger was something else.
But he was something good too.
He was fired too.
I mean, it's so tough.
It's like asking, you know,
what's your favorite record of all time?
It's so tough to ask me what's my favorite movie.
But the movies that I can watch consistently
like every time it's on, you know what I mean,
you got bad boys.
Anytime it's on and staying on.
Man, I know his favorite movie, y'all, Creed.
He wants to say Creed.
His director debut.
Crazy thing is, like, after I watch it with my family,
I'm probably not going to watch it.
Like, I probably going to put it down.
That's probably going to be it for me.
Yeah, because after you watch it, then you know what you watch it.
The numbers go up.
Number one movie in the country.
Amen.
You already know what's going to happen over.
Let's go.
Tell him to date.
Tell him when it's coming out.
Let him know, man.
It's coming out March 3rd, man.
Listen, man, we want to just break this news to y'all.
He ain't tell y'all, but I'm going to tell y'all.
I'm actually in Creed 3.
You know.
You heard of here first.
I was a bartender in there.
Some shit.
He never, he always claiming shit he did.
He never smoked a drink in his life.
I was serving a lady.
Why would you be a bartender?
I just had one.
I just had one scene.
You don't know no drinks.
I just had one scene in the movie.
I was serving women.
Lemon drops.
I was making lemon drops.
Okay, what's the ingredients for a lemon drop?
Some lemon and some vodka and some sugar on the glass.
And drops.
This is what you do.
You just spray the glass and get wet.
And then you drop it in the shit glass.
Yeah, you know how they got the stuff on there and get wet.
And then you put it in the, it would be like a bowl of sugar and you put it there so the sugar be around the room.
And then you just put some, what's that stuff?
You get the shaker thing.
You put some vodka in there, Amsterdam.
Put the vodka in there, shake it up.
You put the vodka in there.
And then you put.
I forgot.
He was a bartending.
You know the lemon CCC, I use the whistle name limits.
Don't you know the lemon that they have in the...
The Myers lemons?
No, no.
The limits that they have in the grocery store is a little plastic bottle.
You squeeze in there because it's a different taste.
And then I just cut the limit and put it on the side of there.
Garnish and shit.
You know what I mean?
They'd be like, oh, my God, this is...
I forgot.
He was a bartender in prison for two weeks.
There's no bartending in the prison.
He didn't get out of here.
And a DJ.
He was DJ doing all.
Get out of here, man.
But yeah, so listen.
I love y'all, bro.
You know, you know, Michael B.
Join.
My man.
The rectoral debut.
I'm talking about, listen, man.
And it was a couple of things that helped him with, I had the clip.
Action, I used to hold that in the movie, too.
I got to insert myself into this.
This is big.
This is, you know, it goes back to Philly, so I got a shirt myself.
But it's coming out, March 3rd is going up.
It's going to be crazy.
I'm talking about, listen, take your girl, take the kids, take whoever you want to take,
and just enjoy yourself.
We just want to tell you how proud of you we are, man.
Yeah, we're proud of you, man.
You represent us in a different way.
Because we were able to watch the way you just elevated it, man.
man from here to here
and just think me
you 36 you can act
to you 86 96
ain't no cap on acting
see they put cap on rappers
oh you 44
nigga you old
you can't rap
by the time you get 44
you be in your prime
you be just getting going
he already
see acting you can be in your prime
forever
it don't even matter
you could
because if you still doing it
at a great level
at Will Smith
still in his point
rhymes when it come to acting all it's just so you know you don't fall off when you when you put
that working like these guys man so shout out to you man and thank shout to y'all man honestly
what you're doing like we're listening you know what i appreciate that man and it means a lot
whether it's you know laughing or you know educational or whatever it is and it's informative
and the wisdom it it really makes a difference man and y'all talking about substance you know what i'm saying
you're still having fun still doing your thing still being who you are but like kind of like me like i i i tune in a lot
And I appreciate that.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you, man.
We appreciate that.
Listen, I don't even know who we're going to interview after this.
We didn't got the sexiest nigga on the planet.
Like, where are you going?
Anytime you're coming back.
I'm here.
Appreciate you, man.
March 3rd.
It's going down.
Creed.
Creed 3.
Ah, yeah.
Go see that.
And it's just like that.
Right.
