Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAS WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 141: FEATURING KEVIN GARNETT

Episode Date: November 22, 2021

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Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Right. Oh, uh-ah. Larry June, their winner. Jay Worthy. We got the Hall of Fame here today, PG.

Easton, Blueberries in the moment. A little raw spinach If you don't know nothing about me You know I'm gonna get it Sorry love don't take this personal But we're just so different You can keep the diamonds That just came with

All shit That drink of coffee Take a watch He would have been home When the rabble was going on Check it out Woke up made a quick breakfast Then I smashed out

Ocean Beach time down Check it out Move like a beast Pope in my orange juice Here purifies in my crib Help me sleep cool Winter time in New York Had to bring the meat down

She bust another day Now a nigga up to death I'm down my life so wild I can write a book I come from an era If she looked If she looked To bitch keep your head down

Bricks on the Greyhound The chances that we took Wow That's why I always pray now Hey, man Seeing that shit. Yeah.

Yeah. What is our word? Lunning drugs. Hey, I hear you listen, man. That's smooth right there. See that, listen, not just that was real smooth KG, You know, the Hall of Famer was over there. He was grooming, but right now you're now tuned into me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, million dollars worth a game.

See, you. I just want to say that's loud as shit. It is, but just her and no, no, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, see, see, the problem is what you is, see, you was a, you was a, a F, F, F, league basketball player, so you ain't ever here the crowd board. But you ain't over here the crowd war. You can't ever hear no crowd war like that. You was a bum-ass point guard. a little small college, you wasn't that. All right.

In, I don't like, listen, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Are I or am I not a hood legend in basketball? No, no, no, ho, ho. No, am I not? First of all, we're going to start this on right.

Philadelphia, North Philly. Am I a hood legend? Because I heard, I heard KG call you a legend. I said, ho, ho, ho, what are he calling you? He's not calling you no legend and no basketball. He's talking about rapping. I'm not even going to give him that a rap. You was a, you was a Z lead rapper.

Damn. I got to, man, because I don't know what you was watching. I'm just a fan of Gilly, you know what I'm saying, real shit. You know what I'm saying? He's a legend. Oh, man, see, I'm not talking about basketball. He's not talking about basketball. I saw a joint where he hit like three or four, and then I got off.

Like, yeah, he knows what he doing. Oh, my, I'm tired of this. And then you know what I do? Rashid has stamped that. Boom, like, yeah, he was official. Rashid Wallace, Alvin Williams, Kyle Lowry. He didn't find a stamp nothing. I'm going to change the subject because I don't want to like a reason.

Got a bunch of NBA players that are to stamp that. Okay. Citino Mobley. On a Philly cat. A bunch of. They're all standing on. That's your name? Chaunty Gillips.

You know what my names are. Gilbert Arenas. Chaunty Gillips. This boy, man, C.C. Gajie. Damian Gillard. And sometimes I'm Grant Gill. But I'm just saying. Now we tuned in a million dollars where we game.

That song of the week was Larry June and Jay Worthley, man, dear winner. But we're right here with a Hall of Fame. I'm talking about a legend, man. He got a new doc coming out. And it's just that, like, it's different. There's different energy. We're not just sitting with anybody. This somebody is just like, when he got on the court,

He was like, I did one of you. I did one of you. Try, try it. What's up? I'm with all the dumb shit today. But what are we doing today? How are we going to do this? How are we going to do this?

I don't care who over there? How are we going to do this? And see, what I love is that I married my game. That's how I played in the prison yard when I was balling. You see what I'm saying? I wasn't that aggressive because they would have changed the sport on me. But I had an approach of, I did one of the other. Why did you sit here lying like this?

This is my story. Let me tell my story, man. Nobody can say I'm lying. Get off. Get off. He let me get off. He said he had lied like you was playing like that in the prison. No, you know what I'm saying?

You know what I mean? You was the quietest nigga in the prison. Oh, stop telling my business. But when did the point come? You had to get straight to it. When you said, because a lot of kids is watching us in the ghettos of America in the inner cities of America. Their mom might be on drugs.

The dad might be in the penitentiary. Dad might be, you know, they don't know. And they got to walk every day. They got to walk from their crib where they're going through the poverty and they got to make it to school a day. They got a mean hoop game. What information could you give them to stay focused and keep walking? Don't stop.

Don't stop past, you know, the gangs on the corner. And you was in a serious city. See, what y'all got to know is that, how don't even start this? So first off, I would tell that kid to learn, you know, when you go to a city, you got to learn with that street is you got to learn with that areas. You know what I'm saying? I grew up in a ram, especially when I got to Chicago, it made more sense.

But growing up in the ghetto when I was younger, it was all fun. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you know everybody, as you get older, man, that changes. When I got to Chicago, you got to know the lay of the land. You got to know what's going on.

You got to know grips. You got to know lit. You got to know signs. If you got his pants leg up on this side, if you got his hat this way or certain, you got to know all that, right? To get you to be able to come through here. That's first off, right?

You know what I'm saying? And then after that, man the hoop is what saves you out you know what i'm saying it's almost like uh at least in in my walks of life the hoop is what keeps the armor around you it was it what it what protects you you know you're saying uh niggas in the street leave you alone they know you got a future um they know if you know if you're a real serious hooper they'll support that and they're watching out for you on the block so you know i would tell that young kid to understand where he at first you know what i'm saying and the way to get out of that whole property

and that whole, that whole neighborhood is through that basketball. So that's the message there. Like, I do it feel knowing that you're a Hall of Famer, man. It feels weird if I'm being honest, man, because, you know, you don't get into this for the Hall of Fame, for the 75. You don't get into it for all that.

You know what I mean? I'm from the, I'm from the Blabstale and Guild when he walked in here that, you know, I'm from the ever, or we from the era where, you know, you get on the playground. You can't even be on the playground if you ain't got no game out here. Right.

You know what I'm saying? And there's bullies out here. It's shot callers out here. Some of the shot calls ain't even playing. They're just watching. But it's a little bit of everything out here. So I grew up in that. I grew up in a nigga bullying you.

You can't play. They're kicking you out of here. You got to use your, you know, you got to use these to get in and out of places. So with that, I grew up in that. So, you know, when it came time to be on here, I wasn't a big talk when I was younger. But if a nigga said something to me,

and I had the game to back it up, then I would back it up. Not every time, because some of it came with a scrap, some of it came with some of it came with a fake, but I'm out of the hoop. And I ain't out here by myself. You know, you travel with crews, so I wasn't no different from that. So I'm from that to start that, you know what I'm saying? Now you got the new documentary.

We'll bring that apart. What bring that about? Well, I started getting a bunch of questions from young kids and young, young, young cats that was coming into new money, coming into new opportunity. Now when you leave high school now, you got a name and likeness where you can get money name and like they just did that so you know it's like a million people asking me the same question i can't i can't sit up in here and ask and all a million you know what i'm saying so i would sit back and i was like it's it's a perfect time to put some stuff out just on my trials and tribulations

and how i got through things and to throw script to kids um and that's where it started so i came out with a book first and um a lot of kids when i talk to them it's almost hopeful wishing or man or it doesn't sound all confident you know because you know kids are trying to figure it out so in this I wanted to throw some script like, look, some of the same things y'all had happened to y'all happened to me. This is how I got out of it. This is how I was able to duck a bunch of stuff. This is how I able to get from A to B on this, you know what I'm saying?

And when I moved, I was able to do this. And that's where all it is. It's encouragement. It's inspiration. It's a script. It's to say the message is to bet on yourself. You know, when I came and told my coach that I was going to high school, I wanted to go to the pros in high school. He looked at me like, like, what you want?

Yeah. Like, well? And I was like, no, for real. I just talked to Azale. He took me through a whole bunch of other stuff and told me A, B, and C, this is what we're going to do tomorrow. He was like, what? He said, write this down.

He was like, what? I said, I said, like, nigger, write this down. And we never turned around from that. I told him exactly what I wanted to do and re-orchestrated. And that's the thing, you know, I was getting a tryout. Or, you know what I'm saying? And that's how all this started.

I want to ask this question to you. How does it feel? Because you wasn't the first to go from high school to the NBA. It was like Moses Malone or somebody. But you was the first to go in right from the gate 18 years old in the NBA and be successful. Because there's only three people in the history of the NBA to go from high school to the NBA in average double-digit figures at 18 years old. Yeah.

Do you know those three? I want to. You one of them. Come on. Yep. I want to say Mosulam alone? Nope. Nope.

No, no, no, no. See, I'm a basketball historian. Brian one of them. Brian. Um, um, come from high school? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, no Kobe?

No, no Kobe? Nope. No, no Kobe. No, no Trace McGready, no J-O. No. No, no Kwamey Brown. No. No. No, no, hold on.

I'm a basketball historian. That's a good one. That's a good one, Gil. Brian James, myself. You average 10.9 points, right? Yep, yep, yep. This person averaged 10.7 points. Hmm.

I don't know. Give it to me. Amari Stuyama. I forgot that. And he was a beast. Yes. He was a serious problem, yeah. So when you came into the league out of high school as a rookie,

you actually showed everybody behind you, wait. You can actually go from high school to the NBA and actually be successful in your first year. See, I'm going to tell y'all some real shit, man. I don't know if y'all know this name, but Felipe Lopez. I'm a basketball. It's horrible. Felipe Lopez was probably one of the best high school players I've ever seen

ever seen until I've seen Ronnie Fields. Like seriously, like just had the, just had like... Next Michael George. Seriously, shit, like Felipe's aerodynamics in the air, even though he wasn't like a big, but he had great air control, meaning that when he getting in the air and he bumped, he can control itself he was able to finish through hard fouls and stuff he was just doing shit that you wasn't seeing in regular like like high school games he was really a different breed

and i and i watched like a crowd of dominicans and in spanish culture follow him throughout the two years he was at rice and that closed rice okay but i watched him and um when i remember uh getting all this opportunity and it's a bunch of stories that kind of you know we got to go through but at the end I got the same opportunity and I saw the same kind of following and the difference was the game that Isaiah Thomas I actually speed through this I had a chance to come into a gym

and play with Michael Jordan. I came in and played with Michael Jordan he put me on Scotty Pippen. We got into this game and I'm playing against Scottie Pippen and after that game I said Thomas pulled me to the side like boy you see what you just did boy you can play in the league and I was like what and what the problem was that a lot of kids did know this misinformation about entering the league at a certain age and if you didn't have a parent or something that you had to have guides like didn't

nobody know none of this so when he gave me all that I took that whole list and I read it I was like oh you just got to be able to make the team if you're able to 18 and you can make and your parents say you can play and you can make one of these teams and you can play no no I bet I was willing to bet you out of a hundred kids none of them kids knew none of that and that was the difference in Felipe Lopez and myself because when I seen Felipe the very next year he was like, yo, how did you even? And I took him, and he was looking at himself shaking his head like, what the fuck? He ended up playing three, four years at St. John's. It wasn't the same energy as sports when he came out. Nope. So I took that. And once I had Minnesota, once I

had the chance in Minnesota, I never turned around. I was like, ain't nobody ever going to take this from me because I had a situation in high school. I got some trouble. I came over some hurdles. Then I moved Chicago. When I moved Chicago, Chicago was so, it was so beneficial for me with the play. I was playing against guys that either had played in the league and didn't want to play

no more and still in the city. I was playing against the west side, niggas, south side, things, north side, DePaul, east side, like you just, in Chicago,

I don't know what it's like in Philly, but you play against everybody and anybody. So you're playing, I'm playing at Kenny King, Roosevelt Park. Shout out of the Shautown. Shoutown,

West Side, South Side, 82nd, Kenny King, Malcolm X. I'm playing in every place. My coach is taking us and we're playing against everybody. So that's how you end up seeing everybody. And you got a crew. And, you know, it's Vice Lords.

It's GDs, it's BDs, it's, it's Chicago's just like L.A. It's a city full of gangs and it's size. And you've got to know what it is and how to speak and how to get through these neighborhoods. So with that, you know, we got passes to go certain places. This is how you're meeting everybody. This is how you get to play everybody. So this is how everybody gets to know your name and shit. So that's how I got on the radar.

My coach would take us to play against GD's. We're in the BD neighborhood, and, you know, it was just going. So this is how I started to get a rep. And with that rep, man, it follows you. So I like to think that Chicago got me ready for the league. That when I got into the league, it was just, it was similar to shit. But I wasn't, like, intimidated by nobody. And the games weren't really out.

Like, when I got to the Timber was, I think Kristen Layton and Jay Rottos was our best players. And I would watch their habits. And I had a real work ethic. I had a real work ethic. Like, I would come in, work my ass off. And I got to work with Kevin McHale, stuff like this. Ain't no systems in place for 18 years old. All the clubs know you're 18, they ain't letting you in, all places that.

So I had to deal with that. I had my own crew, so I started doing my own thing. And then Kevin McHale started giving me leeway for some of my friends to come to practice and just make it more easier for me. Travel with me before then. None of the league had none of that before I got there. All those things had to come about. But, you know, I carried all that with me from the shy

and all that competitiveness and all that trash talk. And then I'm coming into the league where guys like Charles Barker talking dead crazy to you. Right. Trying to take your head off with a bow, talking dead crazy, trying to see if you're going to react, trying to see if you're going to be, you know, you can be punked or whatever. So, you know, the league was about establish yourself and whatever came with that, came with it. And I wanted to continue to get better with that same thing. So that's what happened, you know, that's what it is.

Who gave you to, before you, you know, when you was young, like you said Charles and all of them, who gave you the most problems. before you transform over to just the animal yourself, and then who gave you the problems even when you transformed over to the animal? You just was unfucked with it. So first off, everybody in the league gives you problems, but my first real problem is Big Dog.

Big Dog was from Gary. Glenn Robinson. Big Dog is a GD from Gary, Indiana, and he let me know that. He played for Purdue or Wake Forest. He played for Purdue, but he was, his makeup was Gary. So if y'all ever played against kids from or anybody,

Shout to Freddy Gibbs. He's from Gary. You know what I'm saying? Like, his cat's from Gary, Indiana. And Indiana is a real basketball town. So, you know, they're coming at you. They're talking crazy. They gang banging.

They stand on kind of slick shit. So Big Dog was the first welcome to Nien Bay. It was on some, like, what's the preseason zone? You know, preseason, everybody's trying to take their time. Shit, Big Dog come out. He was talking smack. He's going and he's going. So I was like, okay, cool.

I wasn't even tripping. You know, all right, all right. So Big Dog was kind of my welcome to Niam. NBA. And then as you become whoever you think you are, and I'm, you know, I'm not confidence growing up. Second year round, I got some understanding with him to, you know, he plays the three. I'm coming from high school. I play the five. I'm not used to coming off screens. I'm not used to getting hit with screens and stuff. So he had a, he knew he had an advantage. Once that advantage caught up, it wasn't the same conversation. It was more of, you know, understanding that,

okay, we both big dogs in here. I'm getting mine. And then I went and surpassed all of, you know, a lot of cats I came in with. But Zach Randolph was always a tough cover. Damn. My probably my toughest cover. Zach looked like, like y'all was, y'all had a long night going back and forth. Like you had to get a crazy to each other.

Well, you know what? We would, but it was all confined some of respect, you know? And he'll probably tell you this. The referees, if you started a certain way, the referees would follow consistency. So I would start grabbing, holding, bowing. I would kick it off.

I would initiate the contact so that, you know, they'll probably call one or two of them, but they can't call this for 48 minutes. Right. So a lot of that I would initiate. Mm-hmm. If anybody knows that plays Zibo, he initiates contact,

and that's how he wins a lot of the, lot of the, I would initiate the contact and end up having him on the other end. Mm-hmm. But my toughest cover was probably Rashid Wallace. No disrespect to Timmy. No disrespect to any of the other fours and threes I played.

But Rashid Wallace was just, he was, Rashid Wallace was just never talked real shit to me. but was just, he was just hard. He was long, couldn't ever get his shot. He would put an arc on the ball, shot of three. We never put the ball on the floor. I would always, you know, get up in and make him, you know, put the ball down.

He would never do that. Like, he was just a tough cover from me. So, you know, throughout these years, man, you don't ever get anything easy. Right. You know what I'm saying? Everybody's coming with their best, and you're getting everybody's best. Since you like listening to podcasts, you know, because obviously you're listening to ours right now.

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Par Pierce won the coaches. The truth. Paul Pierce is probably one of the best closers I've ever played with. And I played with Ray Allen. I played with, I play with, I played with Steph. I played with some real killers decking, and like, Chauncey Billups, who can hit you at the buzzet and all this shit.

Paul Pierce had the demeanor for a closer. He was never, he was like Joe Johnson. He was never too high. He was never too low. He was always at an even kill. And when it was time to hit a big shot or something, he could always calm himself. You know, I not hit some game winners,

but Pete, I hit some game winners where he was just dormant. And he was just, I'm the truth. The niggins can't hold me! And he'd throw all that L.A. Englewood shit. And he believed it. And that's what the league is. You got to believe what you're putting out.

Boy, it ain't going to work. Yeah. Simple. So you go to the league. You get drafted. You in the league. 17-year-old kid named Kobe Bryant walk up on you. You don't know him.

He's like, yo, I'm trying to come to the league next year, man. Tell me what it's like. You know what I mean? You know, like, what's the deal with this shit? How did that go? Cole was crazy, man. And I, we played, this is a crazy story, played the Spectrum. And the next day they were supposed to destroy the Spectrum.

You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, back in the day. Spectrum was a dark, like it was a great place to shoot in because it was dark. And the rim is on, so it popped so you can see everything. You know what I'm saying? And I remember playing I had a decent game. It's about April. So we're going home.

We ain't making no playoffs. My first, you know, my first year. I had a better second half than first half. And I come in, I had to do some press. I come in and, you know, the locker room going crazy, you know, It's just everywhere, you know, the equipment guys picking up stuff, people getting the shower, it's going like this. So I saw a kid sitting in my seat, and I thought maybe, you know,

somebody's son in the locker room they got, and he just sitting there. I said, what's up, y'all? Let me get right here. And he was like, what's up, yo, what's up? I'm like, I'm going to come to the lead. And I was, I had just walked in the locker room. So I was like, who the fuck son is? I'm like, who the fuck son is this or he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm Cole Brown. What's up, what's up, yo? Adapting. I was like, all right, yo. Get, like, get your ass out of my seat. I said like, let me get right here. So he was, oh, my fault, my fault. And then he sat in the, you know, J.R.C.

Because me and J.R.C., he sat right here. So he was just like, yo, how is it out there? Y, I'm watching it. It looks fast. He was just, his eyes, yo. His eyes was so, he was so intense on just wanting to know the next level and what it was like. And I was like, hold on, nigga.

Ain't your dad in the league, you know, your dad? Nah, no, I'm talking to you. And we sat there and flipped, let us talk. for like two hours when the bus was like posted leaving like oh he let me and him talk and I was like

you know for me it was like this I had to do this and I had to do that he was just wasn't even talking back was just nodded and he's like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm coming yo I'm coming

I'm coming I'm coming I'm coming I'm cool I'll see you nigga yeah I'm you know but we both talking like in a yeah yeah yeah yeah then I seen him he get here preseason we both messed our ankles up so we had to come and do

the whirlpool and when you go We was playing the forum at the time. Sabers Center wasn't up yet. So we had to share like this little recovery room where you come used to hot tubs and shit. And we were just chopping. I was like, you know, how are you first year, man? And he was like, man, these niggas over here.

Hey, Eddie Jones. He was hot. He was hot, but he had a, but he was like, yo, I'm the eyeball balls over here. And they don't really fuck with me over here. Look, watch this. I'm going to walk all these niggas down. Watch, watch.

And then I watched him in the series in Utah where he shot like the air balls. He shot the air balls. He had this, he had, I mean, and if he, he didn't know Kobe, he did everything like Mike. The fade away, the tongue. He went bald. When that didn't work the first year, he was like, you know, I'm going to be my fucking self. So he grew his hair out.

He started rhyming. He was rhyming in Italian. You know, you started to get to see a little more of the personality. You know, he came out with his first shoe. Now, seeing him with the hair, he was a different cat. And then we used to, you know, the thing was in the summertime, everybody used to go to L.A. to go to UCLA and play. He would be up there.

Again, we're hoopers like you. We go and hoop everywhere. I want to see if everybody in the summer is working on their shit like I'm working on mine. So I would go around to Houston. I would go to Peachtree in Atlanta. I'm going to basketball city in New York, Rucker, all that shit. So I'm riding around, you know, I'm flying around seeing who's up.

So I'm doing commercial and stuff. That's when we go to UCLA. And I saw him in UCLA, he looked totally different. Yeah, hit the weights, dunking that motherfucker. He was talking shit. He was dunking on bigs. He was just a different cat from. when I seen him.

You know what I'm saying? I just saw him turn into this, this animal. Real shit, but we was both young and just trying to get it, you know, fighting for it. From your era all the way up to now, all you, we're going to start from this basketball period. Who are your team, 12? Who are you picking? I'm talking about from the history of basketball. We're from back in the day now.

Who is your 12? Who's your starting 5? Damn, I'm starting 5. The point. Man, that's hard. Oh, man. Magic at one Just because he's six now

He can see anybody right I gotta go MJ Matter of fact I'm gonna put Colbe on my two Cold gonna be my two Oh man Just where it started to get weird Wait hold on wait

You love it I got Kobe at my two He said but he said I got Kobe at my two He said Don't argue with the man I got Kobe at my two Let me get it off

Do you Right I know you're gonna say MJ I'm supposed to do that Shout to MJ Because he's the God And we copied him and shit But I got Kobe at my two

But come on I really want to put AI in here somewhere, but I'm going for a taller team because we're going to switch everything, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying? I'm going to put KD at my three. You know what I'm saying? KD's, he's like a real fade, you know what I'm saying? And then I'm putting, I'm going, I'm going to go with Wilt. I'm going with the Stilt at 5.

I'm playing the 4th. And we're switching everything. That's how I'm coming. Okay, we need seven more. Seven more? The rest of the team. Oh, coming off, coming off the bench guard. My backup point guard going to be.

Pete Marevich. Oh, right. Then I'm gonna go AI coming off the bench because he's buckets all day, right? Big Dog at the three. Sheed at four, and then I'm going Shaq at five, coming off the bench. And then if I need two more to come on,

I'm gonna go get V-C because he was a bucket and Jordan. Oh, damn. That's buckets for buckets. Nobody never picked that. Nobody never said Jordan coming off the bench. I know, I know. I know. I know.

I know. Or you just leave Jordan off the lift. Come on, K. He was number 12. I got it. You can't have a fucking Jordan coming off the base. I mean, think about the list, bro. It's a crazy list.

I ain't put brown on my list. I ain't put a bunch of cats on my list. I'm talking about dogs. Everybody that just named going to beat your ass. I didn't put Bill Russell on my list. But you said Jordan coming off the bench. I got it. I just told you.

I want to respect Mike. I respect everything about him. I love you. Mike Jordan, that's my dog. I ain't even want to disrespect the game. Coming up the best. I just told you that Lord. I just told you what I said.

Yo, that's my list. That's his list. That's number 12. He said, Mike number 12. I know, that's disrespectful. I love K.G. But that's a fucked up list. It's not fucked up.

Who fucked up? Who? That's Kevin's list. Because he said Big Doug's Kevin's list. He said, B.C., I mean, I love C., but Kevin's left. And then people forget about Big Dog. People forget that Big Dog was a big issue. He wasn't commercial and all this other shit.

That man was a tough cover, man. Man, Big Dog was a motherfucker, man. Straight up. Shout the Big Dog, wherever you were. Vince called in there. Vince, B.C. was another problem. He was a video game.

He was, man, just because niggas did win shit, Charles Barkley, man, Charles Barkley, though. I didn't. I'm just talking about Honorable Mitchell. We're talking about the history, right? I'm showing respect to him all. Barkley was a motherfucker, man. He was six-fold, and he played like he was six,

six, eleven, seven foot. Had a vertical out of his ass. Didn't care. And was a beast, man. Had the triple team dude, man. Dude might get you 40 and 40. Barclay, straight up. But, yeah, he don't make this team

because I'm going tall and we're going big and we're going to switch your anything. Well, but you do. Chuck in there. Do Bubba Chuck in there. I've ever said. Chuck and Rashid, man, don't get enough enough on it, man.

Straight up because of all this other shit that they want you to be glossed up and they weren't that. They were just bucket getters, you know what I'm saying? She was a tough, tough, tough, man. Anybody play Rashid, know what I'm talking about? Tough, man. How much did the gloss and how they wanted you to be?

Like, you know, you in the game, you know, they got the image of how they want you to be. How much did that affect the game? And, like, people, you know, because they weren't about your off court, but they weren't about how you dressed and how did that affect a lot of players? I don't even that, but they weren't about your lifestyle and how you carrying yourself. I mean, you 18 being able to, can you actually come in here and actually not getting in no trouble and da-da-da?

Never got in one shit. Y'all never heard nothing about me in 21 years of having, of being in the NBA. You know what I'm saying? And that's remarkable. Real shit, man. Shout out to LeBron, too. You never heard nothing about LeBron all these years, man. Keep his nose clean.

Got a good group around them and that's important. So the league is actually, you got a little. look at it like this. The league is what it is. They licensed you and your brand to the league. And that's how I looked at it. You know, you take bits and parts from, you know, people that implement you and influence you and shit like, you know, Jordan influenced everybody. I wasn't no different from that. But when it came to style and how I moved and the guys I'm moving with and my crew and stuff, that was totally different from everything. You know what I'm saying? You see Bubba Chuck. He got his crew. You know, you see Zach,

Zach got this, you know what I'm saying? You see guys in the league. So it was just like that. You know, that was the way there. So, you know, I weren't trying to be nothing else. other than what I was. Now, for the young cat that's coming into the league, the money, he got the money, he got the girls. The girls coming, like, I could just remember, no, I'm just talking about them different women. You got the regular women, then you got the women that's coming vultures.

They, you know, the condom poppers and all that they're trying to, like, you know, what advice would you get a young cat's coming into the league? The money is everywhere, the flexing is everywhere. You got Instagram, you all ain't had none of this shit. No. What advice could you get them to just be on point and stay focused? Man, I'm going to tell you, you know, what I tell young people, man? Hey, man, do what got you here.

That hard work and being in the gym Got you all the girls Got you all these cars Got you all these cameras in here Got you when you can sit up here And have the interview So focus on what got you here You know fuck them chicks

Fuck all that other gloss shit You dedicate yourself to your craft And hitting shots and shit Everything else gonna come And you're gonna win And ain't nobody gonna lose from that So that was that's my Man you got times where you can flex

At any time you want to As long as your game intact You understand? That's what they're gonna know you for When they put you in the ground That's what they're gonna love you for when he put you in the ground for what you did on the court sadly to say you know what I'm saying but real shit that's where it starts you know what's funny Kevin Durant said he's Kevin Durant told

us that too he said you know at the end of the day gilly what I do off camera that's my life man he said and I don't give a fuck about people that's judging me on something that ain't got nothing to do with basketball that's real I'm on I'm here to play basketball long as I show up and I do my job, don't worry about what I got going on off the court. And, you know, it was a hell of a perspective to look. He said, he said a lot of these, a lot of basketball players too concerned about what people going to think, how people going to feel, their image. He said, I don't get fuck about none of that, man.

That's the way you got to be, though. You got to actually know that you are king and people are watching you for that presence. And you got to be original for what you are. You know what I'm saying? I used to joke with Kobe Bryant like, damn, boy, you look so much like Joe and what Kobe Bryant looked like. You know what I'm saying? That was my joke to him.

Anybody else joke with him, he wasn't laughing. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, being original and being yourself is everything. That's where everything starts. You know what I'm saying? When people want to dress like you and when Chauncey and Steph had the part in the middle of this shit, like that's what they was known for, that originality, you have to carry that with you. That's your brand.

And not only being the top, you know, 75 players of all time. All time. You and Al both came in and changed the game in ways that. that had never seen before. You feel what I'm saying? You would come into the league and showing that. No, you can come out of high school

and put buckets up. Because you didn't come into the league on some 18-year-old kid who, at least it didn't come off like you were scared. You came in the league. You was dunking, you screaming, you jumping around.

Listen, I came from that older group, and that older group kind of mojured you with the Carmelons to the Barclays. you know, battling those old school guys and then having to play these younger guys, you know, you're being tested every night. So I seen when Katie was on here, he spoke on something when I got to Boston and how, you know, we was, I wasn't calling those bullies, but I wanted to see who was made of what.

And all the people don't know that, you know, Brian James, he don't say it out loud, but he'll shit talk back to you, Brian, Brian a real one. You know what I'm saying? He's from Akron. You know what I'm saying? If y'all do any research on that this, that's not Beverly Hills on no shit like that. You know what I'm saying?

He comes from some real shit. So, you know, when we would push the button and be talking whatever, they're talking too. You know, D-Way here, smack,

you know, it's, like you only hear one side of it because, you know, it's being, the perspective is one side. No, look at the whole thing,

yeah, it's going both ways. No, we only heard, we actually heard you come through the TV. Yeah, you came through the TV. You was Mike.

Like you was Mike Debbott of him. They was like, I'm a bus your ass tonight. And you know what it is? And you was like, fuck you, Nick! He was like, wait, did you hear KG? No, what's happening? Yeah.

And I played the game in one way, yo. He came to the mic. But shit, you got guys like Kenyon Martin. You got guys like Charles Oakley. You got, you got Anthony Mason. You got real hitters that, you know, put you on your ass and then, you know, be looking at Stackhouse, you know what I said? You got motherfuckers with real reps in the league.

I want none of that. I was a real hooper that motherfucking played. And then if we bumped, we bump, and it's well like that. But I'm coming so hard. Everything's through the roof. Everything's through the rope. Everything's at the rim. Everything, you know, and they're coming back at it.

I ain't playing no water down Chris Weber. I played Chris Weber at his best. When he ain't here trying to, you know what I'm saying? Man, it was just, I mean, Dice, it was Joe Smith. It was so many casts that you can just get your ass busts every night. So every night I made sure that I was prepared for that. And that's what, that's what it was. during when we play.

I got a lot of NBA friends. A lot of friends in the NBA. We sit down, we talk, we chop it up. No, I'm, my first love was basketball. That's what so. So I always want to ask questions. All of them give you the crown. They say, no, KG definitely talk to most shit in the league.

They said, all of them. Have you ever said something to somebody in a game? And then after the game, you was like, you know, your adrenaline calmed down. And he was like, Kev, you probably shouldn't have said that shit. So keeping an A1 and keeping it without out. I never said anything that was out outside of playing basketball. I ain't never said nothing about no nigger girl. I ain't never said about no nigga mom.

I ain't never said a nigga about no nigga family, no kids. I don't do that. I'm from where kids and family is off limits from just shit talking. You know what I'm saying? Like, when I'm from, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? That's an instant scrap, you know what I'm saying? So when it was basketball, it was either, nigga, you ain't it,

or a nigga, you know what I'm saying? I'll turn my back on you. You shoot that, you know what I'm saying? All the type of shit that I'm fuck on the nigga on the court. I'm saying? Like, I believe that everybody has doubt in their mind. And the old school nigga gave me this one. He said, man, everybody that step on the court got doubt in their mind.

It's your job to grow that doubt. So I would do just that. And that's how it showed me how weak, mentally niggas, A lot of niggas is, yeah. That how words can affect the nigger, you know what? And that's all it was. You know, I might say something to a nigger and just watch how he react to that. And then just keep on pounding and piling.

And then, you know, he missed a couple shots. Okay, he comes to that doubt. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to give you that one. Gobach-ass nigger, shoot it, you bum-ass nigger. And he's like, listen, listen. You say something at a certain rate where a nigger ain't used to it. Yeah, yeah.

He wasn't waiting for that. And then you would throw a nigger. Get that fucking shit out of here. Bum-ass nigger. Look at this coach. Take this nigga out the fucking gay. All that shit, all that shit. And now they ain't going to fight you.

Now they ain't thinking about no basketball. Right. Now we got you. Now you got to sit down because you out here ready. You're steaming. Right. You're done. You can snap down.

Right. Here comes your second tail. Now you ain't got a chance in here. Now you, oh, no, man. Come on, man. This snick out there. All right. Now y'all down.

I'm out. I'm out. And just thinking when I got the boss then, now I got Pee. I got Ray and everybody on our team talking trash. Everybody. Everybody's talking, but we backing it up. Ray was talking trash? Man, Ray would talk trash too.

Ray Allen to tell you, Ray Allen to tell you about yourself. He didn't think Jesus Shettles weren't. He don't know. Listen, man, everybody in the league is somebody, man, and they got that big factor. And, you know, everybody niggas at the end of day, you know, respectfully, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

You come with a certain kind of cloth and you play with it. Who was the second greatest shit talk of all time? Who was that person give you a run for the money? Man, Gary Payton. Gary Payton. Listen, let me listen, man. Let me tell you. I love, GP.

I'm talking to this shit like I'm the greatest. Man, Michael Jordan is the greatest shit talk of. Would Mike ever say some shit to you? Man, man, what did he say to you? I mean, I passed on to Mike. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wasn't in this shit. I actually made the mistake and said something because J.R. Rada was having a great game

against Mike Jordan. And I wasn't talking shit to him. I was just gassing J.R. And then Mike was like, you know, sitting there, like, you're right there, but I didn't get no fire. Like, man, you kill him, the snake. Keep on that, dude. I mean, shit, man, you're feeling me.

Yeah. Yeah, I was like, all right, cool. Yeah, you got it. Yeah. Good looking. You too. We keep on, because we just had some good games. And then, you know, the referee went ready with the ball.

And I was just like, yeah, you know, keep going, yo, fuck that. You know, we ain't got nothing. Let's go me and you. Because I was kind of, you know what I mean? And he was like, all right, all right. I was like, keep on that, nigga. That nigga ain't shit, man. Yeah.

That nigga got on the back leg on me. Like, oh, yeah? Oh, yeah. You know what I'm sitting there? I'm talking that like that. He's talking street shit to Mike. Mike, what Mike said? Lodge him on.

Like, these old-school niggas have, they talking shit, man. And Mike was like, all right. Man, that man had 40 and three quarters, man. Flip, sub this out, we got out the game. Damn, y'all out the game. Damn, y'all out the game. Damn, y'all, damn, y'all, damn, you ain't, you got it? I'm done.

Mike tap me about. I'm done. Mike tap me back. Alajuan, another motherfucker that's talk shit to you. Yeah, Alajuan would do some shit like take his mouthpiece out and say, I'm hitting him with a lot of her movement? He can't do anything. How do I even respond to that?

You're hitting him with lateral movement. Like, yeah. Yeah, came a large one might hit you with some, yeah. Oh, you hit him with a lateral movement? I was like, damn. I don't even know how to respond to that. Like, I don't even have nothing for that. What do you say?

What do you say when nigga hit, say he's hitting you in lateral movement? I ain't never heard that, right? So, yeah, Charles Barkley will fight you all? Yeah, man, what? Hey, y'all, man, you want a guardie kid? Come guard it. Yeah, you see when Colvin'n and, eh, I was talking? Yeah, nigga, you think it's sweet.

Come guard it then, nigga, yeah. So that's where I come from, man. Everybody's talking shit out here. Tim Duncan don't say nothing. No, Timmy is smiled at you. Timmy'd be killing you with smiles. Wait, hold on all that cussing you did it, Tim. He never got out his element one time.

That nigga might laugh at you, man. You might be cussing them out of a hundred miles. He might sit down and laugh at you. Like, y'-ah, and that's supposed to piss you off even more. Then on top of it, he, Tim, he ya, yeah, yeah, back boy, yeah, hook shot, yeah, fade away, yeah. Ski, I'm the oven, yeah, you like, so, you know, this ain't working. Let me just stick the basketball with this one, but.

The niggas who are weak-minded and won't all the world play? Yeah, I got some for y'all. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. So as you get on the court, the fuck you're going to do today. He looks at that nigga eyes. Oh, no, he, that shit ain't working on.

No, I'm working on. I'm a lead. I'm a lead. No, but the trash song is like a strategy, man, you know, and some, some it worked and some it didn't. But, yeah, it was, you know, everybody had something to say about it. And then at the time right here, everybody can do something about it. Nobody, you know, ain't nobody on.

Just talk to that shit, but there ain't nobody on that. All y'all got rich and shit got money. Oh, fuck you up. Me in the locker room. You bitch ass niggas, you don't want that. Everybody got crews. Everybody's going to hold in 40. Everybody got crews.

They all understand. But it's different, bro, it's different when you, when you copped out and did you really go to a 15,000 foot square houses? Like, yeah, I calmed down. I ain't worried about him. But it's different. It's different when you're really scared out there. And he's talking shit to you like, oh shit.

Like, you're really scared. Is he really going to do something to me? All them players, they're not built like that, and they don't come from that, so they don't know. And you might run up, he might snap on somebody that's really scared. But they had the false narrative out there on you. Yeah, it's a very false narrative.

The internet, because they had all kinds of shit. You had told Carmelo some shit about his wife. Listen, when you don't answer nothing, when you don't answer, when you don't answer all these internet, they just keep on going. So I ain't really, how the fuck are my answer all that?

Like, I wouldn't never say about no nigger wife or his girl out here. I don't know who the fuck I don't know what I don't know what I don't know anything about these niggies I said I said something about the niggum moms or something I ain't say man I don't do no shit I'm from the south man I got manners I got I'm a gentleman with thuggish ways you understand like I ain't I'm a real nigger man I don't play that shit I don't do a lot of shit all that goofy shit keep that from me I'm glad you elaborated on you never spoke on

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But if I'm, man, it's been in times where, like, because I actually think like this, yeah, I had two games, man. Like, if you saw me playing the summertime, you'd be like, damn, what? Like, I ain't going to sit up here and say I'm somebody else or no shit, but Katie, the way he playing real in the NBA, that's how I would play in the summertime. I wouldn't be in no post, I ain't posting them, or facing up, it's a lot of handle on my, uh-uh,

so we went to the Olympics, and Jason Kidd want to play one-on-one. So, you know, we all on the Olympic team, so we all played one-on-one. and that's when I was like yeah I'm gonna get these things some of those work in here so I was just you know just hoping they got that on tape so I had like a like a summertime game

and then I had the NBA game where you gotta play the four come up and sit at the big row you know so I was on that so it was a time where you know we playing Sacramento Kings and it was my birthday and I'm just me and way of going at it in this game seven and that's when I actually felt

like I had a superpower damn this is what might be feeling like when he liked it was that where the game moving really slow and I'm seeing people move fast but everything moving slow for me that was probably the it moment where I was like yeah this is it right here this is this is that moment right here while I'm dominating this whole game on both ends I'm scoring the ball threes blocking your shit ripping you all that shit at least it felt like that that's the moment now you didn't only revolutionize the game as far as coming into the league and showing the young people that they

could make it happen right from the gate I believe you was easy either the first or it was the second or to clear that $100 million mark. To take them contracts from, you know, the 20 to 30 to say we are out here. So it was Larry Johnson who got $80 million. Larry Johnson got the 84. He got the 84. When he did that, Lanzo Morning came behind him and got the hunted. When the Lanzo Morning got the hunted, Shaq went crazy.

Shack was like, folks, they don't know the biggest big men. in the book you get them off of the lines on the money i want the 150 you know what he ends up getting 120 he gets 120 from the lakers after that juan how it gets like 105 from the bullets you know what I'm so I'm next in line not even and me and ra we next you know Rashid is in Portland Portland I'm in Minnesota so we next to whatever Timmy's behind us so when I get my deal I just pushed you know I got the math I pushed the max so I got the max right and it was Minnesota they had to keep you fact so you know I had the level there. So we get it. And that's when everything turned. It was all sweet. It was all cool.

I had a great relationship with Kevin McKell. You know, everything was fruity, fruity, fruity. And then the lead changed the narrative. Now I'm a problem. Now I'm second in text behind Rashid. But we're the two highest paid. This is how to get money back from your ass. I ain't missing no games. Because back then you played through everything. Low old management, nigga, I met you. Nick, I got such and such, such. You plan, right? Then to like the Europeans, then they changed the rules so that we have zone now. Can't put a hand on the naked, you know what I'm saying? Think about that. You know what I'm saying? The 80 was all hand check.

Mm-hmm. We got in there was free of a movement. You can't tell somebody. If you can't touch somebody in basketball, hey, I don't, no hand check. Oh, my God. I can't even imagine Michael Jordan playing in today's time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I say that to say, man, I'm thinking of my list now. I got Jordan come on to bed. That's no disrespect to Jordan. That's my list, though. Get back into what I was saying. What the fuck was I said? Talk about when they gave you that money, how shit switched up.

So it was just my turn. So when we went in there and, you know, I signed whatever, I see the league figuring out a way to not just pay these big contracts, but they're trying to figure out a way to get value out of their, out of their respectable franchises and can't pull any money off. So now here come blame the players when we all just in line of a wave to get money, right? So then they stop it. And now they're figuring out ways to take money off the top before they even get money.

And that's what the lockhouse was about. It was about the distribution of money and where that money was going. And the owners was mad because they was investing this money and they couldn't pull no money out of the franchise unless they sold the whole franchise. Right. And they wouldn't want to do that.

Later on, they would figure it out, but it would be too late and all that. But to say that, we was all part of a wave in which was set up for everybody to come in and get these numbers. And it was in the, you know, when we came to the U, you had to make three years. That means you had to go three years,

prove yourself, then you got some money. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Big Dog came in, got 89 right away. I don't know if I don't know that. Right from the gate. And that's what pissed all the old heads about, and that's when they instilled all them stuff.

So I just figured out, you know what, if you go three years and you make yourself into something that, you know, they say you couldn't, and I think that you was up for the money. So, you know. Hey, at one time, wasn't like somebody like John Conkack, like the highest paid player in the league or some shit? John Conkack came in, got a big deal,

and everybody in their mom was mad because that kid, you know, he didn't really have the polished tools to be a superstar. garbage, man. He's trashed it in a big money. He tried to polish it up. He didn't really because you got to respect everybody coming in. But yeah, he was trashed and compared to everybody he got some real money. But yeah, his agent did what he's supposed to do. Absolutely. Now, let's talk about the documentary, man. Yeah. I got a chance to see it. Mm-hmm. You know, what's your, what's it? It was real. It was organic. Like, you know how, see, this is Ron Biggaborn. I don't like super edited shit. And I don't like people.

talking and you could tell that they talking was directed, meaning somebody came in there, edited their approach to who they are, you just was you. You're the same person that was on the court. And I think coming from where we come from, we could feel it. And if we could feel it in the hood, the world could feel it because it's unapologetically

you. And that's what I like, because I watch a lot of documentaries anyway. I watch a lot of that shit. So just seeing that, seeing you talk about it. And I like how you incorporated your coach and you show because you're showing young people how important he was to you. Because the coach is like a father. Absolutely.

In the ghetto. Absolutely. So the way you connected with him, you show how he just, he just was there a moment. He did with you through the whole process coming up and to be able to show the videos and show you growing. I think it's going to be a real person. I think he's going to touch people because it's just like, it just looked unedited, man, and unfiltered, you know?

I ain't spoke on it. I ain't really get into a lot of how I came up in those intangible moments to where it got you here. And I ain't really go through that. None of my, when I was in the league. I wanted to wait for hours out. had a whole career and all that and then I wanted to go back and show appreciation for everybody

to help me get there and that's what that is. This piece is more of an inspirational piece to the kid that don't have a script, don't know what he's going to do, don't know what, he don't have any solutions and when watching this,

he got some confidence to push and jump into something and have it with passion and do it with passion and to chase his dreams. That's what this piece is about. And it show you how you, like you really,

like just seeing you when you first walked into your old high school and you're seeing the old heads come, your coach another way and just seeing how they was like... Connection. The connection that you had in number one,

like when you watch this, like you were a young kid, KG listened. That's the key. He listened. I know, see, it's a little different from his time and now

because you got all these distractions. You got the phone, you listen to stuff, you're looking at videos, you think you think you're going to get the whole education from here, whereas though,

you ain't really got to listen to a person. He had a real, like the coaches is five of figures. He listened to the coach. Yes, he did. And it's not, he didn't get here by itself.

No, uh, no. It started right then near, you know, and, um, that's what I like. I'm just like, damn, man, he really, like, was connected with the coach. And, and because, like, when you get older, you look at things from a different perspective. True. You know what I mean? And when he showed up at the school with just to see that, how the coach's faces are lit up. It was to see, to see how proud they was to, to, it wasn't about no.

money, it wasn't about, it was just on a simple fact of one of us made it out. And Faggart, the Latin King School, so, you know, it's Latin King to where you got to, you know what I'm saying, you got to, you got to, you know what I'm saying, you got to get in there, and all that other shit, or they'll steal your shit, or

they'll put it, you know what I mean? So it's real life over there, so to go back to Faggartas show some love. It's always, it's always something I feel like I got to do, you know what I'm saying? And we was in high school together, you know what I mean, me and, me and KG. And it was no, and it. that it was no

but all the way in Philadelphia we heard about oh no it's this big man out in Farragut at Chicago man that motherfucker man that you know we played Roman Catholic we played Roman Catholic before Who was playing for Roman Catholic

I'm going to let me think Let me think who was playing A big light skin kid over there for Roman Catholic back then I was like Roman Catholic like yeah they ain't in Pennsylvania you know what you all beat them

Yeah we should we beat up on Roman Catholic a little bit in Chicago a little bit. Roman used to go everywhere and play. They were like O'Kill. They were traveling. Yeah, Roman Catholic, Ben Franklin, where who want? He's a bum. Oh, yeah.

Me, Randy Woods, Poo Richardson, I mean, a bunch of people, you know. Grats. They was really the traveling teams. Crats, Ben Franklin. When she and was that? Yeah. Yeah, that's when sheath and then was the number one team in the country. Fox.

Beat us 49 to 4. at Franklin. Say word. She was that guy. She was like that in high school too, eh? She really wasn't like that in high school, though. Like he was good, but it wasn't like, like, she had probably averaged like 16 points, 17. Because everybody on the team was going division one.

You feel what I'm saying? So it wasn't like she was averaging, was having 35 and 25. No, he had Leonard Stewart. he was six seven he had Ron Dill Turner you went division six eight he had man shut the fuck up he had he had a he had a reds Terrell stokes so you know he had you know and he was another one team in the country so I remember that team y'all absolutely and and and he was representing Philadelphia hard that it was they was putting you on the mouth 30 or 31 and no so it was number one number one yeah they was yeah it was the shit straight up yeah they was number one number

one let me ask you a question uh the documentary like when it show you you know it shows your growth it show you coming up as a young end it show you going to the league you know what i'm saying what was your purpose when you was putting it when you was putting the whole documentary out what was your purpose what you're trying to get across to the youth to the people that's watching it you feel what i'm saying what do you want them to take from this document outside of educating the people that kept asking you the questions. Right. I wanted the kids that,

I want to show the kids that I have been on an adventure and I had hurdles and I had pitfalls and I had a whole bunch of shit that could have took me left, right? This piece right here was inspired me to, for kids to bet on themselves. Take some chances, get your knowledge, know what you're doing, and then go two feet in and then bet on yourself. If you go to somebody, you ask somebody in eight,

and they shoot you down, don't let that be the answer. You got the answer. Whether you, if you want, listen, you know this. You have a passion for something and it's burning. It's your job to curate that passion.

I really believe that. And you don't take no's for answer. If you really, really committed to that and you have a work ethic, man, that's the answer there. Man, I came out, I said, wolf, man, I'm going to the league, man, just what are we going to do.

Like that means, he chuckled. And I got pissed off that. Fuck you chuckling that. I didn't say that, but I looked at him like that. And he was like, what? I think we're going to leave. Write this down. And when I said it the third time, he knew I was, and that's the message.

Bet on yourself. If you're passionate about something, and now with the Internet and all these different things where you can actually really critiquing and line it up to where you can actually live from me, yeah, bet on yourself and then put the work in. You know what I really, that's the message. What I really liked is, you know, I was a big 30 for 30 dude. So you, but now it's like every. Everybody's coming out to Mike Doc, the dock on Indiana, anything.

It's like, everybody is coming. It's like, you know, what's so good about is that you got to wait a whole person career than winning outside of the career for years for this moment. And like for you, it's like, you know, so many people love you. And they're like, damn, we finally get to get this. So it's just, it's just, it's just, it's as good that it's coming out. Because, you know, a lot of our greatest players, they never put no pieces out. They don't allow you into their life into their story.

Because the story is like a give back. and there's an education because so many people just want to know, especially your diehard fans, they was like, damn, I ain't even know that. He went through that shit when he was playing such and such. So it's like that insider look for the fan and for the, you know, wherever they're KG fan or they're just a basketball fan, you know,

because them 30 for 30s changed the game. It did. And you learn from those. And they've really educational pieces. So I was trying to follow. And I was trying to do something different too, man. You know, a lot of the docs that don't watch, man. You know, I want to keep a sports.

wanted to, I didn't want to get into personal, a person on my own, you know what I'm saying, because I am human, I, you know, I ain't get it all right. You know, you, you know, you mess this up, you mess that up. But for the most part, man, doing it right, not she, not cutting any corners, you know, being able to go 21 years and, you know, have a really squeaky, clean, like, image and a good character that people fuck with you. Most important, teammates. Uh-huh. When your teammates fuck with you, man, they tell you, they was one, you know, one of their better, best teammates to play with, man, that, that's, that's what you do it for them.

really count. That's character, bro. Like, I can go and I can go shake hands. He did no dumb shit to no nigga. I can go up and I ain't looking on my shoulder for nothing. You know what I'm saying? That says a lot. What you miss most about the league?

The guys, man. Locker room. Hell yeah. It's always the locker room, ain't it? And listen, man, the fraternity is real, man. And you're sitting there and that's where you really learn a lot. That's where the building got. When they took the OG out of the locker room, man, that hurt the young guy, man.

The young guy couldn't grow as fast as he could. Because you can't have the OG in there and be like, nah, you can't do that. No, you can't do that. You know what I'm saying? Oh, hey, do it like this. Or, hey, I did it like this. You can, and it's scripts, man. You know, you're taking a little bit from everybody in there.

You know what I'm saying? But there's nothing like the guys. There's nothing like the plane rides. There's nothing like the lifestyle when you're traveling and, you know, you're building. And ain't nothing like when you're on the road and y'all got to lean on each other because there ain't nobody in here. They hate you. They're booing you.

They're talking there. And it's us. That's when you really come together and connect as guys, man. So, yeah, I miss that. I missed the camaraderie with the guys. A couple weeks ago, I'm a, not a 19, long back I was in Minneapolis in a beautiful city

I'm talking about I just like the building it's just beautiful what city did you got to embrace the most and was your best time at what city that you played there um they were all different like Minneapolis got to see me grow up as a young kid into this

into this young man into a better player from you know coming from a little young puppy and then coming into growing into this leader of the franchise and all this stuff of shit Boston was more like a polished dude coming, joining forces with other superheroes. That's how I like to explain Boston. Like Doc Rivers, he was a whole presence, Rondo.

He had his own presence. Ray Allen had his own presence. Paul Pierce, like Lincoln, Tony Allen, Kendra Perkins, like all these different perspectives and all these presents coming together and then we work in this one. You know what I'm saying? We work in this one, like really, really committing ourselves to each other and then Boutu and really believe in that. Like, like, I would say, you know, Minneapolis is always going to be home.

I have a home there, like, to this day, and I probably always have a home now. But, you know, the years in Boston was just different. You know, it was more polished. Everything that I couldn't achieve in Minneapolis, I actually achieved it in Boston, so I felt like. But, you know, both was magical. Both was imminent. My Brooklyn days was dope because it gave me a chance to play in New York and see what, real life in New York, a real nick town, real shit.

I know the Nets or, like, secondary and they, Brooklyn, shit, it's a real Nicktown. So I have to respect that. But all three great, great, great moments of my life and all have three different kind of places of where they land at in my life. All significant, though. That's good money, well, man. You know, once again, million dollars with a game, man. We appreciate you coming through showing us love, legend.

Thank you for having. You know, we're going to get your flowers, man. You're a legend. You really put on for the people that, you know, to come from where we come and you show these young kids and you show everybody, man. everything is possible. And like you said, whatever you're trying to get in life, listen, focus on the work, focus on your grind. As long as you got that, anything else is going to play his part, man. Just stay down to that, man. Put God first too. Yes. Make sure you watch that

documentary. Yeah. As soon as this go off. Anything is possible, November 12th coming right at you. Yes. It's just like that. Right.