Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EP:84 "SNOOP'S COMPOUND"

Episode Date: October 26, 2020

"SNOOP'S COMPOUND" ft. Snoop Dogg and Matt BarnesYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barsto...ol.link/mworthofgame

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Right. Yeah, this episode of a million dollars worth a game is brought to you by Amazon Music. I told you I've been using Amazon Music for a while. It's been amazing from the start. I'm talking about access to 60 million songs on-demand, ad-free for less than a dollar,
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Starting point is 00:02:31 Okay. Oh shit. You got to hear this. You got to hear this. Come on. You got to hear this. You got to hear this. You got to hear this.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Who we are? From the depths of the sea, back to the block, snoot dog and dog can't you get the th-th-th-thus I went sooner on that ass, but it's still the same. Long Beach is the spot where my third macaque. Follow me, follow me, follow me, but don't lose your crap. Non-trick ain't the year's there for me to fuck her. Shee, so I ain't holding nothing back in motherfuckin' motherfucker. I got five on the 20-sack.
Starting point is 00:03:20 It's like that. It's never matter. Rackettett. About the man we screwed You can see that This is a much You're in jail I was in jail
Starting point is 00:03:30 Man You're in jail Yeah Yeah You're not Your background's on point You're talking like y'all Nix was in the OJ
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah I used to sing when I was in jail I was in jail man You niggas was on right there That's right You now tuned in a million dollars Worth a game Me a million dollars worth a game
Starting point is 00:03:51 We got listen Onk is on here Man listen We're in the compound Listen It's an angle where it's all good you know what I mean with the godfather of rap the dog father right so so some little young player got him the other day right and he was like uncle Snoop I need a million dollars
Starting point is 00:04:05 about the game I say you're on the wrong line homie you got to hear get me the king that absolutely and I'm going to give it to you yeah me let me tell you this shit you got going on over here is un-fucking this is listen this is the compound it's unbelievable man I mean I'm just keep it real man This shit, your people's walk me through this shit, man. This shit was truly inspiring, man. It was inspiring. I'm going to roll out the blue carpet for you, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I never seen no shit like this in my life. Hey, man, it's inspiration. It's years of being in the industry and being around motherfuckers and seeing other people's shit and then saying, you know what I want to make my shit like this. You know what I'm saying? Like you've got to go out and see an experience and touch and see exactly what it is that you can do
Starting point is 00:04:56 and can't do. Like, when I went to other niggas studios, most niggas just had a studio. And nobody was thinking outside of the box, like, well, when it's time to do videos and podcasts and radio station and interviews. So I was like, fucking, let me put all that shit
Starting point is 00:05:09 in one box and have it to where it's for my family. Right. It's for me. And it's a bunch of business. And one thing I love, I see you had a lot of your homies in here. I'm talking about since you was knee-hot
Starting point is 00:05:21 to a butterfly, man. I've seen a little half-dead today. Come on, man. That's what we do. But I've seen little half-dead little. ghetto boys what you're gonna do when you grow i've seen little half dead for the first time of my life that's what we do we we we we're real niggas man and we like to stay connected to those who made us who we are yeah understand i'm saying not who helped us get to what we get but they made
Starting point is 00:05:42 us who we are like my homies is my everything like you see when i play my music for and we're in we celebrating it we enjoying it like i depend on them like they depend on me like i brag on them like they brag on me absolutely yeah and let me ask you a question what was that feeling man because there's a lot of young cats out here to think the street life is all that. I remember, everybody seen it when you was walking to court when you was a young cat. You're going in there, you and shugging them. What was that feeling, man? Because you described that feeling to these young cats.
Starting point is 00:06:06 It wasn't. It wasn't. We're talking about murder. When you fighting for your life, when you fight in a murder case and you're in the judicial system, first of all, you, the system designed to beat you anyway. So if you're going there, you know, with a 187, most likely you're going to lose. So my heart was beating every day. I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know how to carry myself
Starting point is 00:06:26 I didn't know how to act because I wasn't never in a position like that normally when I'm with the court I would just take the deal you know what I'm saying because I didn't have money for a lawyer I didn't have Yeah that was me I was deal right right
Starting point is 00:06:36 So nigga didn't have none of that So this is the first time I ever had a lawyer I ever had somebody speak for me to where I couldn't say nothing I couldn't do nothing I had to let the lawyer speak and just sit in court and just be on my best behavior
Starting point is 00:06:46 but at the same time it was shit happening outside of the court that was still going down that was you know prohibited me for moving I had to be on house arrest I had to, couldn't move certain ways, couldn't do certain things, but it taught me discipline. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:59 In a real crazy way, it taught me discipline because everybody around me was running wild, and I was the only one that couldn't. Let me ask you a question. Shug Knight, did that man change your life forever? He changed my life forever. Shug Knight was one of the best niggins that I ever ran across in my life, but a simple fact that he was so honest, so real, so true, and so passionate about DeFron, about his artists, and about us becoming who we are.
Starting point is 00:07:24 And, you know, I like to reflect on the great shit that he did. You know, everybody know about the bad shit, but the great shit he did was he instilled in me the power and the will to just be great and just to stand on top of it and not to be second place but be first place. And, you know, when you got somebody like that, before he became the mogul that y'all seen, behind the scenes, we've seen that mogul. We've seen him, you know, giving us information, direction, you know, coaching us. Like, even when he came to my murder case, if it wasn't for him, I don't know what I would. to deal because he was professional enough to know that you need a lawyer we got to get a defense team we got to do this don't say a word how much is your lawyer costs man we spent about 10 million dollars on that game damn just to get you out he spent 10 million cash at least
Starting point is 00:08:07 because the case went on for three years and y'all had the best lawyer you could get we had david kinnard and he brought in johnny cocker and then he brought in donald ray and then they brought in another attorney it was like i had like five or six attorneys on it they was They had a detective, a pathologist, a DNA, video, like every level of the game. It was like, this was the first time that video reenactments was introduced in court. So we had to reenact what had actually happened through a video that my attorney was willing to have found a way to put together. So it was like a reenactment like you see now when you watch those shows, the first 48 and all that shit. You see them how they, we was the first ones to do that in court.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And that shit was because the money we were. spending and this lawyer was so sharp he was like i got to let people see because the way they see you they see you as just a gangbanger that did a drive-by so we got to show them exactly what happened so they can be inside the seat and see exactly what took place let me ask you this uh shug you still talk to shug yeah i spoke with him about about two months ago um how you doing he's doing good he's doing better than he was before um he's got a good spirit and um i just wanted to communicate with him just to keep the love and let him know that I'm going to keep the spirit alive and if
Starting point is 00:09:22 you know the grace of God if DeFro happens to get dropped in my hands or open back up again I'll be willing to keep the spirit of it alive and just do my thing that's why I represent you know what I'm saying for the spirit of because I remember that's my birthplace that's my start that's my ecosystem that was one of the first people to believe in you exactly
Starting point is 00:09:40 you better know it one thing I would get one thing I see about you man earlier in your career you always no matter was you know what color you was, but, you know, wherever you was red or blue, you showed dudes love.
Starting point is 00:09:52 What is the, it was important? It seemed like you leveled up quick, whereas though you wasn't with the dumb shit. You was like, man, I'm just trying to help anybody else. What is the importance in that? Could you educate cats on the difference between street shit
Starting point is 00:10:02 and being a street nigger and being the businessman? Well, when we started there for records, it was a bunch of street niggas in there and we had to learn how to become businessman because we all were from different parts of the city. You had some Confident Pirates,
Starting point is 00:10:15 you had some Long Beach Crips, some L.A. 60s. You had some niggas from everywhere in there. And we had to learn how to get along with each other. And we had to learn how to love each other and how to work together. And we built a brotherhood and the bond. So my best friends are from neighborhoods that I'm not from or neighborhoods I wasn't supposed to get along with. And once we learned that technique as far as being able to break the wall of stereotypes, we can't fuck with them.
Starting point is 00:10:38 No, we're fucking with them. We're hanging out with them. We're going to tell them how dope they is. We love them. We appreciate them. Then it became what it is now. That's why you see so many young rappers who are the fruits of our labor. When you see a YG and a Nipsey become brothers and do songs together, that's Pairoo and 60 Crip.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Never was supposed to happen. But through the spirit of what we laid down and how they continue to run with the legacy, it's everywhere now. You've got bloods and crips that hang out with each other, love each other, and it's all love. And that's what we did it for. We had to take the sacrifice as far as learning how to do it and being disrespectful, you know, not learning how to, we had to learn how to talk around each other because gangs talk disrespectful. You know what we together If we crips, we disrespecting y'all Niggas because we're around y'all
Starting point is 00:11:23 But when we're around y'all We got to fix our mouthful We got to learn how to talk So what we did was We started When we was on death row We would say When we're shooting dice
Starting point is 00:11:31 And somebody say, Twinkie Like, no, you can't say that Cause it's 20s because I'm from 20s You're disrespecting my neighborhood When you say that Then nigga got it Okay, understood Nick Tramps
Starting point is 00:11:41 No, you can't say that my name You got to say Tray's home You're disrespecting my neighborhood You know what I'm saying So it's like through the culmination of us moving and working with each other, we learned how to respect each other. Because we always talk to disrespect. You can come up with something easy to disrespect. That's what just on the tip of your head, nigga, fuck you, nigga, bitch-ass.
Starting point is 00:11:59 But can you say something to show a nigga respect? Right. I fuck with you, Gilly. I fuck with you while y'all niggas. It's cold. I like how y'all get game. I want to be down with you niggis. Now, I've found something out because, you know, I'll be trying to dig.
Starting point is 00:12:12 So I want to ask some shit nobody ever had. And I said, Snoops from 20 Crips, right? Right. But the security is from insane. Right. Right. How did you manage to break that wall? That was amazing shit.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Because y'all was warring for ever, right? Right, but here's the origin. We started together. 20s was one of the first gangs in Long Beach. And then Insane's formulated. And 20s and Insane's used to move together. It was an east side Long Beach thing. no matter where you was from a few from east side longbies we moved together that's why when
Starting point is 00:12:50 i did the east side's record deuces and trades the old-fashioned way i took it back to the way it was supposed to be with tradie and goldy loke putting the insane and 20 together working together right because trade eat from insane goldy loch from 20s so putting them together in the group was also a move to show that we need to be together and my security is my cousin that's my blood that's my blood cousin so no matter where he's from he loved me and it's blood you know what i'm saying so when you're his family involved the gang don't matter you get what i'm saying right right and i felt like you know putting that statement together with me and him moving together it put unity in the hood because it made them have to work with each other because we working with each other and every time
Starting point is 00:13:36 we pull up he's going to bring some his home is i'm going to bring some of mine and we're going to have a good time and we're going to show niggas how long we're supposed to do i was i was just in the studio with you right and I've seen the energy in there from the homeboys the energy in there that you had like I remember I remember when Dr. Drake came and got you out the house in that video 90s like 92 I was in juvenile placement we talking about I'm talking about decades ago what's the key to making memorable music that lasts forever your shit lasts forever you got some songs you hear out here last year you don't even hear it no more right I think when you tapped in like when you got a real good soul and a real good appreciation of what was made
Starting point is 00:14:12 before you. Like, we pay tribute to the greats. Like, when y'all niggas be riding in the car, y'all be singing that old shit? Like, what niggas don't understand is, like, that's paying tribute to great music that was made that wasn't just bubble gum. I'm going to say this shit four times and slap it in the
Starting point is 00:14:28 hook and make it repeat. Nah, nigger, we're saying some shit that means something. That's sentimental that touches your heart, your soul. Hair stands up on your arm when you hear. And it means something. Like, we want to make records that mean. something. And sometimes people don't understand
Starting point is 00:14:44 that when you're in the studio. You could just make a record that is a moment record. You're in the moment. Right now, everybody's saying lit. Everybody's saying this. Everybody's saying this. Everybody said, you want to make a record that's for the moment. But if you want to make a record that's staying the test of time, right about your pain, right about what you're going through. Because there's
Starting point is 00:15:00 more niggas going through what you're going through than more niggas that's getting lit. Hey, I got a question for you real quick. Let me ask him a question. So, you were from, like, basically having a complete rap career, right, to transition into the TV world, movies, making that transition, like, how, like, what would you advise people that, like, look at, like, the, because a lot of the youth right now look at the violence, to, uh, you look at all
Starting point is 00:15:28 the new young rappers, it's all, you know, guns and everything, how, longevity wise. What would you say to those kids that would get them right as far as understanding how you have longevity like an uncle snoop to be able to do what you do and make that transition to still have your life first and foremost but to be able to have wealth as well i think the the worst shit i could tell a nigga to do is changed the best shit i could tell a motherfucker to do is to do you that's what i've been great at you know doing me and figuring the shit out as i go navigating my path as it comes to me you know not really knowing what's before me but just having faith enough to know that i'm gonna make a good decision and if i don't it's my fault but if i do it's
Starting point is 00:16:08 My fault. So I say to those that's doing it, you know, when you want to grow and graduate to the next phase of your career, you'll know it shouldn't be a rush. It should be music right now. You should love your music and love making it, whatever the fuck kind of music you make. If it's gangster rap, if it's R&B, if it's melodic, if it's whatever it is, you should really stay true to it. That's what I mastered. I mastered that first. Mastered that rap shit. Then when I stepped into TV and movies and I had that as some of, to fall back on. I could fall back on rap because I got that shit on lock. But this shit is different. It's a different monster. You're not dealing with record labels. You're not dealing with A&R. You're not dealing with radio. You're dealing with a system that don't give a fuck about you that was here before you got
Starting point is 00:16:52 here. A nigga, they don't care when you go. So you got to know how to navigate that system. So I created my own by saying let me build a facility so I can shoot my own shit. Package my shit up. Take it to a platform. You niggas wanted?
Starting point is 00:17:08 or not. And if not, I'll put it out myself. But everybody don't have the finances that I have, but you got a phone, you got means of creating. I love this right here. So you believe it's important to have real estate. Man, real estate is the most important thing in the world. If you don't own land, you don't own nothing. You know, a lot of times when I first started buying shit, I would buy cars, jewelry. I didn't ever pay my house off. I was like, I'll get to that shit, I'm just going to pay rent, rent $3,000 a month. When a nigga just took $700,000, just paid the motherfuck off. But not knowing, but when I went to No Limit and seen how Master Pee and them
Starting point is 00:17:47 niggas did it, them was like, shit, that shit paid for. They're buying houses. Like mansions and shit? Like buying them. Like, therefore we was like leasing. You get me? Leasing. So you're paying somebody else's rent.
Starting point is 00:18:01 No limit was what house you want, what car you want. in your name yeah in your name and speaking on that I seen an interview where you said you know when you went to no limit you was fucked up I was
Starting point is 00:18:17 and that kind of fucked me up because I'm like at that point in life Snoop had already sold like a shitload of records but that was big to me for the youth to see that even Snoop
Starting point is 00:18:31 had enough humility and enough that because you could front it and nobody ever would have knew you was fucked up. Like a lot of niggas do. Right. But you put it out there like, no, when I went to no limit I was fucked. I think you said
Starting point is 00:18:45 I was looking for like 1,500, $1,500. Nick gave me $25,000. Yeah, it was $3,500. I wanted $3,500 for a verse, but he gave me $35,000. Yeah. And he gave me game on some you know how I should be moving, you know what I'm saying, and just
Starting point is 00:19:01 was willing to take me up under his wing. And he looked at me as a star. He didn't look at me as a nigger that was watching it didn't have it he's seen what i what i could continue to be and that's why when i got with no limit i don't think i was big as i was on death row but i think i was better i think i was more wholesome like on death row i couldn't really touch or fuck with niggas like that because we was only in-house but on no limit i was able to be on 50 fucking records i was able to be cool with this nigga him i love you what's something you what's up, my nigga, what's had?
Starting point is 00:19:36 And therefore it was like, looking at us, like, oh, we can't speak you, them niggas. What's up? Niggas won't even say now. So it was a wall of defense. Now the wall gone and JD, my nigga, JD, bin, my nigga. And it's a level of comfortability. So now me and J.D. can hang out. Now me and Puffy can hang out.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Now, all the niggas I want to fuck with, I can fuck with him. Me and Puffy went on Steve Harvey show. Right. But you couldn't fuck with him back then because we was being geographical. Right, and we was being for the team and whatever the team say, you got to roll. the team you can't beat the sore thumb and the team say fuck gilly man but gilly my nephew fuck gilly right
Starting point is 00:20:11 well I guess it's fuck gillie you know what I'm like then it's like y'all put me in a position like that why I really like niggas and right you really want me to say fuck that nigga right like in the beginning we was young and wide and we didn't care so naturally I went after EZE I want after Tim dog
Starting point is 00:20:27 and Luke but then that motherfucker fucking song he made was crazy he came but then we knocked him all the way out the motherfucking box with the dray day don't play with me I know I'm just saying He came That shit down
Starting point is 00:20:37 Fuck you Fuck he's talking about Shut that shit With that shit With that thing Say fuck Kyle I was like You shut that shit down
Starting point is 00:20:43 And don't mention To me kicking the buildings Down we're gonna leave that alone We're gonna leave that alone We're gonna leave that alone With no answer With no answer That was
Starting point is 00:20:51 That was You're in me I would keep it all in bra I was a little salty With the big shit He kicked the bill With no A dinner
Starting point is 00:20:57 With that With that With that Big city and dreams With no ass Man he talked of shit I want It was something
Starting point is 00:21:04 I want to switch the subject A little bit As soon as the door is open In the compound today The first person I've seen And I've been seeing her My whole life was your wife Man
Starting point is 00:21:13 Through this whole building There's pictures And you and your wife Everywhere you and your baby But it's you and your wife And I'm like yo I know her That's like family
Starting point is 00:21:21 From seeing her through all these I'm talking of the documentaries The ups and downs Before you was big Snoop But before death row You're on the picture You're holding her I'm talking about all through this shit
Starting point is 00:21:32 How how do you make it work how do you make that love that black love work man it's hard but it's got to be uh it's got to be cemented it's got to be cemented in your heart that this is what you like this is what you love this is what you want to be with and you just got to know and understand that like when i made a decision i knew you know what i'm saying way back in the day it's just based off of how she moved and how she carried herself how she would be better for me even when i carry myself halfway backwards or wrong or out of pocket I knew she was going to always be solid.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And that's what you got to know when you choose your partner. Not, you know, what you do for her, but what she could do for you when you're at your lowest moment or when you're at your weakest moment or when you at your moments are fucking up. Like how they, you know, keep your back and keep you lock and loading. You got one. Yeah. I always say, man, you need a woman in your corner like a boxing trainer, man. Yeah, I mean, what life kicking your ass? She got to have a sip of water, a motherfucker, a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:22:33 hell of a speech get out there champ you can do it get the fuck back in the game you can do it just slip to the left you keep you keep going to the left a little bit keep you caught with that hook slip to the right now all right she got to be in your corner like a boxing trainer man and pick your partner wise
Starting point is 00:22:49 man because you know a lot of motherfuckers pick their partners based off of lust in the moment and that's how that shit end it end hard and fast when you pick your partner right that shit don't never end it last And a lot of niggas fuck up
Starting point is 00:23:05 because they'd be going with looks over loyalty, man. What she looked like. Well, let's see what she looked like in the morning. Right. After all that shit, then fell off.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Absolutely. But you wake up with that one fucking eyelash. Oh, fucking fake-ass eyelashes, makeup. Wallo got shit all on his shirt. Like, what the fuck did you? What is this? Eye-lash on the car. But you're going to get me in trouble
Starting point is 00:23:28 with all this shit on my shirt. Bitch, we wake up in the morning. I ain't doing that. Like, motherfucking Instruction work Hey, listen When y'all was touring, listen, when y'all was touring, listen Pock, right?
Starting point is 00:23:46 Rest and peace of Pock, man. How was them studio sessions? It was like, how was it, man? It was crazy because when we, before he got to us, we would have like a bunch of bitches in there and it would be going like real slow. We like listen to songs.
Starting point is 00:24:03 For example, if I made a song today We listened to that motherfucker for like three days And just be stuck on that motherfucker Every day we come in, we just listen to that motherfucker Right, when this nigga came He changed the whole script around It was like, nigga, pull this song up And everybody in the studio, he's like, all right
Starting point is 00:24:19 I got four verses Start writing Nick start writing He's going there and bust You bus, you bust, you bust, you bust Song is done Don't even listen to it. Pull the next track up I got three verses on this
Starting point is 00:24:33 because I'm doing one. I'm going to lead two for y'all. Who won't son? Niggas bust. That shit wasn't hard. That shit was tight. That was tight. Y'all in there.
Starting point is 00:24:40 You out. Boom. Next song, we'll listen to it tomorrow. The nigga do like three, four songs. And then he come back and listen after the engineers. Fine-tuned it and moving around. He don't like listening to shit. Like when you record and I record.
Starting point is 00:24:54 You know, we just be listening. You don't want to hear that. How long did it take that all-in-law's on me to get done? Shit, that nigger did. Him and Das did. They did half of that motherfucking, like two weeks. When he got out, Dad's was working on the dog father. And I was like, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Cuzz is home. Get that nigga everything. So it went from dog father to him taking all of the ammunition and giving it all the pot. And Cud went to work. That nigga Pock was on it. He was on it. It was one beat that I had that was a DJ pool beat.
Starting point is 00:25:29 That shit went do-doodoo-doo-doo-do-doo. Wow, wow, wow. all them niggas on their rapping I'm like damn that's my beat but then I heard them niggas I was like
Starting point is 00:25:40 God damn they could have that shit you know what I'm saying that gangster party though that gangsta party ain't nothing what's the hardest birthday you ever
Starting point is 00:25:49 in the studio with oh yeah that nigga smoked Reggie too he'd be smoking regular don't let that nigga got that you got that shit I think pop was probably the
Starting point is 00:26:02 the fastest, most efficient a nigga I ever work with in the studio. A lot of niggas take a long time, you know that. Yeah, absolutely. Some niggas write me two days writing a fucking version. Right, like, nigga, then you ain't saying shit when you get in there. You took all that time for this?
Starting point is 00:26:22 You could have been said this shit. For real. I think probably one of the hardest people, hardest working people I've ever been in the studio We've got to be Manny Fresh. I thought you were going to see me. Mani Fresh go to work. Mani Fresh lock in, man, and just make beats for fucking two weeks at a time.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Like, it's like, you be sitting there as a rapper, like, what the fuck is we going to rap? But he'd be putting that shit together, man. All this nuggers got a different, they got a different hustle. Yeah, absolutely. That's one thing I could definitely say about cash money. They showed me when I got the cash money how you really hustle in this rap shit. Right, because we was playing with him. I said when I was on death row, we was playing with it.
Starting point is 00:27:05 We wasn't doing none of the shit that no limo was doing. The niggas was selling merchandise. They were doing shows, had gas stations, niggas own property. Niggas was, like, investing in shit, had real estate. They was getting money like that. Hey, Snoot. How many properties you got, Snoop? I got a few.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I don't know how many I got as far as, like, hand count wise, but I got a few. You ever heard of Rona Proof? Mm-mm. That's my strategy, man. I've been teaching people how to get started in real estate because we all know, like you said earlier, that real estate is one of the most important vehicles for a generational wealth because one thing they don't do is create more land. So us owning it, I wanted to give people a game how you can get started without having to have money.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Most people think real estate is you've got to have hundreds of thousands of dollars to be able to maneuver in the business. Well, it's a strategy called wholesaling, but basically you take the contract, you go and negotiate with a person that's about to lose the property or distract. seller, somebody that got to maybe die through COVID, whatever it might be, we negotiate and then sell that contract to a cash buyer. Maybe somebody that knows, you know, an Uncle Snoop that's looking to invest in certain areas, right?
Starting point is 00:28:13 So one of the hard parts for people was to find good data, like where you go find these houses at that you can go and get these properties under contract. So I got to... People listen to where they can find it at. Yeah, so you can go to closersdata.com, www. www.closersdata.com. How you spell closers? Some niggas got it spelled.
Starting point is 00:28:31 C-L-O-O-L-A. S-E-R-S-D-A-T. You see, your ass can't even speak. No, no, he's fucking me up. He's telling me something right here. Damn, Lo. ClosersData.com. You didn't got me murk on your body.
Starting point is 00:28:44 See, uh, let's see, O-C. C-O-C-O-S. Wait, hold on. Let me look at my clothes. Yeah, close it. Closers-D-D-com. See, you've got me marked on here, Lowe. God, damn.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Listen, no, like, like, if I'm a young cat and I'm trying to get in the deal, they offer me contracts, like, I'm going to, I'm thinking about going independent because you know they got all these digital platforms. I ain't really got a lot of money, but I'm getting hot. Like, what advice you get to a young kid if I'm coming to Uncle Snoop? And this is my million dollars worth of games segment right here. Uncle Snoop giving a million dollars worth the game up today. First thing you do is get you a lawyer.
Starting point is 00:29:18 You got to get a lawyer. You got to get a lawyer so that way you won't sign that and that's going to cost you down the road. And you'd be like, damn, I wish I would or could or should have had a, you get you a lawyer first. And one thing about a lawyer, a lawyer as well, a lawyer as well, work for hire so that means that they'll take the job before you get money because they'll they'll base it off of the money that you'll get
Starting point is 00:29:39 so you get you a lawyer to represent you to read over your contracts to put you in a position to where now you've got information and you're not just running around like a loose cannon making music and you know not knowing what's the stipulations to the contract so lawyer first
Starting point is 00:29:55 and foremost then once you get you a lawyer make sure you get you a sound and get you a look about yourself that's yours and stop trying to be like everybody else and be yourself and from there you should be off and running that's a million dollars worth of a game right there we got one segment left man that we do call stories from the cell snoop been locked up while old did 20 years course y'all know he went in a 17 came out of 37 who giving the stories from the cell let snoop give up his crazy story from when he was in jail oh man this is this is real crazy right so
Starting point is 00:30:31 I'm 18 and it's my first time in the county jail and now they got me in like the cell with a bunch of murderers and lifers and shit I'm like this is this is pre-murdered case it's just like a nigga regular like how the fuck did I end up in the cell with these niggas
Starting point is 00:30:49 they probably was going to court it was some of that shit but we had to spend a night in the cell together it's a Mexican gangbanger with EMF on his back this man got 100,000 tattoos and shit he's looking at me and shit he's like I got you homes and I'm my ass, you ain't got shit, I know that much, Nicky, that you ain't got me, nigga.
Starting point is 00:31:07 You got him? What you don't got is me, nigga. You understand me? So look, the next day, he leave, and it's another dude coming to sale. Black dude, look like he on crack, but I ain't tripping. I'm, like, trying to get to where I got to get. Nick, I wake up at 6 in the morning. This nigga is hung, nigga.
Starting point is 00:31:27 This nigga didn't hung itself in the cell with me. Oh, my God. This nigga feet. hanging, nigga, right by the end of the thing. I'm like, I just slid up under the nigga and told the guards, come get this nigga, man. I didn't slid under the nigga like the snake, nigga. Getting out to sale, a nigga trying out to test this nigga.
Starting point is 00:31:44 You hear me? Yeah, God. The nigga hung himself. They snatched the nigga down and he come back to life. I'm like, this nigga tried to kill us up. He came back to life, man. Yeah, the nigga wasn't dead yet. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:31:55 You're unsuccessfully killed off? You sure that wasn't that good fucking week. Man, I ain't making this shit up, man. Man, I wish they had a camera in the cell, man. Oh, that good shit, we got like. They snatched that nigga off that rope and they had the blanket around the nigger, they snatched that nigga down, nigga hit the ground and start coughing. He brought him back.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So at least she he witnessed is the homicide of that. Man, I'm like, from the murderer, nigga that looked like he was going to kill me to the nigga that tried to kill himself, all in the same cell. That's crazy. Hey, listen, man. Hey, Unk, man, we just want to say, first of all, man, it's bulletproof love all the time. man always love man you wrote the red carpet out man oh car and not little carpet blue carpet i'm sorry no disrespect i'm sorry damn i'm sorry they were hood they got me roll it
Starting point is 00:32:44 and not only did you roll the blue carpet out man this shit truly inspired me a while man we had some talks about this shit and i ain't even going to find i seen a couple couches i was going to couch sure for him but i said i got some way to go tonight i'd have posted right it's comfortable with shit in this joint. You don't want to leave. But you got me a while talking about going to go back and try to vest of the fucking warehouse. This shit is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:33:09 This shit is unbelievable. This is unbelievable. That's what this was. This was a warehouse. I know. That's what I've seen. This was for jets. They would have come and get their fuel from here. So it was a hangar for jets in their fuel. So it was nothing but empty space here.
Starting point is 00:33:24 So when I got this motherfucker, I had to like get an architect to come in there and construct wrong for wrong. what I wanted. I want a basketball court. And I said I wanted bowling alley, but they'd say, you can't have that. So I had to build a little game room
Starting point is 00:33:37 and I want a casino on top. That fucked me up. The casino was anything. And you would look down and see the basketball court. Then I say, I'm doing a GGN. I was doing the GGN in the garage with a little green screen. I said, I need to build a room for the GGN. This room lit up.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Just like you niggas can sit at the table, do your podcast. We can put shit behind you and thinking like you in a whole other world. Then I wanted the big soundstage green screen. so that way we could shoot motion pictures that shit biggest shit in here you get what I'm saying you shoot starboards in there motherfucking right that shit unbelievable you know what I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:34:07 thinking out the box like why do we keep giving them money when I could build my shit here like Tyler Perry built in Atlanta I don't need as much space right I just need a little bit right and I need to own this you own your shit
Starting point is 00:34:21 yeah so a motherfucker can know at the end of the day we could turn the lights on and off when we want to we can do as we please if you niggas ever want to come back you understand I'm saying What is this like 30,000 square feet? Some shit like that. 50.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I don't know. What is it, killer? This shit is unbelievable, man. I'm truly inspired. I'm just glad I'm glad I came for the podcast and to bust it up with you. Here's some new music. But more than anything, man, I'm glad I came to see this shit because big you and waxed it, Gilly, you ain't never seen no shit like this.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And I was like, I've seen a lot of shit, man. Ryan by you can't tell. You can't tell nothing. Nigger thought y'all was pulling up into a hospital or elementary school. A toilet tissue of factory. That game open. I seen all of them, them six foes wrapped up and the screens. That's what the fucking, the tour buses?
Starting point is 00:35:13 I said, all this. This is real shit. They got his Pittsburgh. Steal those buses. I said, you know what I'm an Eagles fan. You know what? You know, I'm a Eagles fan. Philadelphia, baby.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Hold on wait. We play Pittsburgh this week. You all in trouble. We play Pittsburgh this week. Oh, man. I forgot about that. You're in trouble. And then I'm going to say this.
Starting point is 00:35:29 We had a good game going on PlayStation, then your shit went off. Yeah, my shit went off. He's garbage. Who was winning? I think it was tired soon as he was about the squad. I text my son to hit the router. And the nigger was playing me in the bed, though. He got his back against the head boy playing me.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I'm like, I'm going to have this nigga at the edge of the bed for this shit over with. I'm going to squeat your ass way away from baby girl. You're going to come to the edge of this bed for us over with. Hey, listen, I know you do that sweet play a thousand fucking thousand. That sweet playing a hard. is shit to stop. That shit hard to stop. All Snoop do is
Starting point is 00:36:03 sweeps it, all right. Hey, listen. Hey, I'm a little league coach. He run for six yards and then look, this is the long side of the field so he sweeps. And then eventually he's going to break some shit.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I'm a little league coach, man. Hey, man. I take what you came me. Shout out to your little league, man. Snoop, you've been doing that shit for years, man. Since 2005. I was about to wrap it up.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Before I wrap it up, man, shout out all the players. Shout out all the players. and the kids that came from your system and went to the NFL. Wow, that's big. That's big. And there's more to come, and they really amaze me. And we got some road scholars, too.
Starting point is 00:36:41 We got some doctors, some lawyers, some firemen, some police officers, some politicians. I mean, we're breeding them, man. We're getting them off, you know, to a good start. You know, we're teaching them to be student athletes. And I want to give a shout out to all of my coaches, my volunteers, the mamas, the grandmamas, the people that bring them to practice. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:58 You know, we also got to Snoop, special stars need, too, a league, too, that we got for special needs kids. So we got that. We've been doing that for three years. Shout out to those kids as well. So we ain't leaving no kids behind. That's what's up.
Starting point is 00:37:10 It's gangster. That's what's up, man. Well, Unk, man, we appreciate your love, man. Appreciate you, man, from the bottom of my heart. I got to go do this Mariah Carey thing. I do some Christmas, you know what I'm saying? With Mariah, you know, she wants a dog to come in the same. Me and Mariah.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Slide down the chimney. You know what I'm telling me. Hey, listen, we'll go slide down the chimney. Here come Santa Claus. It is just like that. Right. You see this man, man, stupid? That in the common house, you do the green room?
Starting point is 00:37:44 It's new green room, man. You can see Star Wars in this junk, man. You can do the junk? Look at him. I don't know if Uncle know he on that bike or not, but. Yeah, they're calling. I'm going on the bike, look at the back of the shit. Look at the back on the record.
Starting point is 00:38:00 You know what I mean? Hey, let's show it around in this window. Let's show them around. Let's show around real quick. Come on, y'all. It's a productive studio. I need a film. This will be filmed on.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Show when we did take. Let's move on there. man. Look at the center, man. Oh, the ways of it, man. Game was crazy, man. The game was crazy. With Snoozy, I'm in a two-man cell.
Starting point is 00:38:49 With my little homie, half-dead? It's half-dead, right here, baby. What's that? That's a happy little ghetto, boy. What you're going to do when you mean, grow up here? Yeah, that's what it is. We'll go up here to this casino. Share the casino life, man.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I'm ready to go. I'm ready. You want some money from Gil. Come on, Gil. Yeah. There's got that. There's two up here. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:39:08 It's real. Come. That. They can't see that. You're not here. That boy. Oh, we know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yeah. Really good. You see, listen, you see the community glad you in here, Red Grant, one and all that. You like it? No, in the behind the scenes, he's the real one. You see it, baby. You see Red all up in here? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:38 He's trading that game. Hey, hey, baby. The funniest people in the world are the best people in the world. These brothers embody all the spirit of funny, happiness, and love. Y'all keep in the Rock. Look, look. Look, look. Both of y'all, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:54 You know what I'm saying? Like, I got a problem with that shit. How are you talking me? You know that ass, nigga? Tell them on the podcast what happens for your life. Listen, my life changed for the better, man. All that negative shit is away. You got to get away from that negative shit
Starting point is 00:40:10 to progressing life. It's called prevailing. It's called growth. Look, we are flowers in the ground, right? A flower needs to grow. I needed to grow. I had to go. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I had to go. Bad boy. That's it. I had to go. I have to go And when you learn how to go He lost You learn how to go
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, that's it Come on Get it right And look I want to tell you something Gilly and Walo are one of the Two powerful people
Starting point is 00:40:39 In this time right now Two powerful people Stop playing with them Two powerful people I'm not playing They're too powerful people They give y'all so much knowledge Young niggas
Starting point is 00:40:49 Follow it, listen to it Don't take it for heed Don't take it for granted and listen to that shit for real. It'll save your life. A million dollars worth of game, powered by bars through sports, man. I'm Wallow 267.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I go by the name of Gilly the King. It's your boy, Tony, the closer. And we got my man, listen. Matt Barnes, aka he wouldn't have wanted to see me in my prom. I messed my ACL up or it would have been knowing in college. He wanted to see his kids just a few minutes ago. Don't put my business out there.
Starting point is 00:41:14 His kids is ring. My ACL was tender. They just dropped you all. I got a tender ACL. So Matt, you know, I was going, you know, I was going to put smoke on his kid, But that was another thing.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I don't want to, you know what I mean? You can't be doing that to the young boys. But that's another story, man. Really? But listen, man, before we get into this episode, a shout out our sponsor, CBDMD. CBDMD is committed to providing high-quality TAC-free CBD oil products. Whether you're gunning for a race in the Olympics
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Starting point is 00:42:13 And, you know, I'm stocked up at the crib. I'm the THC, not THC, CBD guy. we got a we got a marijuana specialist in the house indeed indeed indeed what's your favorite strain anything that seven leaves put out that's my company so that's why i got to get you guys done how long you guys out here for i'm out here for a while yeah i'm gonna get you guys some seven leaves we got the blue slush the bonbons the vovo the jupiter jack we got yeah we got we got some flavors so i'm gonna make sure i get you's awesome for you leave so how you got how you get into that man i i met the dudes i i i i met the dudes i i i
Starting point is 00:42:52 I do stuff with my hometown, maybe about three or four years ago, about five years ago. And then we reconnected about two and a half years ago. And they made me a part of the family. And we've been rolling ever since. And it's a profitable industry. Definitely, it's definitely a profitable industry. I mean, it's an essential good now, you know what I mean? So, you know, it withstood the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:43:10 So, you know, the cannabis is definitely a booming spot right now. How has it been during the pandemic? I know that everybody had the career. I've been busier than ever, to be honest with you. You know, fortune still be able to shoot the podcast. We're shooting it from home now. We're back in studio in New York and in L.A., still working ESPN, still doing and moving and shaking. So it's been a blessing for me to really slow down for the first time and be able to spend more time with my kids because I'm able to do everything in the home.
Starting point is 00:43:35 So, you know, outside of it being a terrible situation for the world, it's been a blessing for me because, like I said, I got to work from home and spend more time with my boys. So, man, first of all, we want to shout out to the podcast because y'all the shit, you know, doing your things. We talk behind the scenes and we tell y'all, yeah, it's going down. You know what I mean? You got to do something together. We got to get a million out with the game and all the smoke to do something together. You know, we almost came over to the bar stool this summer. I already know we had to talk, me.
Starting point is 00:43:57 You had to be talking about. We was free agents this summer, but, you know, showtime stepped up to the plate and took care of us. And then we also teamed with, um, you say hello. Hey, we also team with, uh, get him a pound, give him a pound, get him a pound. I heart in, uh, Charlotte, Maine, black effects. So, uh, shout out the black effects. Shout out of the black effects. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:13 You can just keep getting everybody found, baby. We got to work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, no, I got to ask him something, right? me being a competitor in sport like basketball, like when I, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:25 you know, a lot of colleges with me, but I went to Penn State. Like, me being out there. You said he went to Penn State. Yeah, it was neat. I always put it out there. But Matt, I want to know one thing. It was a lot of people out here when you was in the game, man.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I used to see you on that court. Who got under your skin the most? I wouldn't even say people got under my skin, to be honest with you. Like, I'm a football player at heart. So I was just, I was playing hard-nosed defense, knowing that was kind of my staple. and would allow me to play for 15 years. So my job was to play hard.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And, you know, in the midst of that, sometimes some shit talking what happened. But at the end of there, you know, I was the one that always had to guard the best player, you know, rest of peace, Cobb, Bron, Mello, D. Wade, who was the hard to guard? Kobe. He gave you hell.
Starting point is 00:45:07 He gave you hell. You know what I mean? He was just so, he was the closest thing we had to join, but definitely the best I've ever played with their scene as far as footwork. You know, he was someone that would just capitalize off your mistakes. Most people know what they're going to do. Kobe would make a move based off the way you're playing him. So it was always real tough.
Starting point is 00:45:25 So whenever I guard Kobe, it was just, I know good offense is always going to be good defense. I just wanted to make him work and give him nothing easy. So Kobe was harder to guard, Dylan, Brian. Yeah, because Bronn is big, you know what I mean, and strong and obviously fast, but that's easier for me because, you know, we're the same height. You know, Kobe is more shifty and with pace and footwork, you know, and that's obviously tough to guard. And then, you know, he has so many counters and shot face.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And he just gives you the whole package. So, you know, Kobe was definitely my toughest cover. Hey, so Kobe was known to be a shit-talker, right? Yeah. What was the most fucked up shit, Kobe said to you after, like, making a bucket or, like, it wasn't really fucked up shit. Cole, what cold was, cold was just, he used to just, you know, obviously he was physically gifted, but he used to try to mentally fuck you over, too.
Starting point is 00:46:13 So he would do the dirty shit, you know, elbow you, grab you, and elbow you right here and knock the wind out of you can take off off a screen or you know pump fake you 18 times and make you barely touch him and then he'll hit an M1 so it was just like I said it was a you had to mentally check in when you was garden code because if you got too emotional he would take advantage of that how big do you think it is that more than likely you know the tragic you know that happened to Kobe and then the Lakers are about to be world champions absolutely I think it's a beautiful thing you know I was someone who got a chance to play with both you know the Lakers are my favorite team but I had chose
Starting point is 00:46:46 my former team, the Clippers, because I thought for once they was about to finally shed the bullshit history that we've had as an organization. But they didn't hold up their end. So I think it's a beautiful thing. I said at the beginning that the championship was going to come back to L.A. I just didn't know who was going to bring it. And, you know, the fact that the Lakers are the one standing and they're on the brink of a championship, I think it's a beautiful thing. Obviously, in Kobe's honor, Kobe and Gigi's honor, I think it's great. I also think it's great for Braun, you know, for he's on the way to getting his fourth ring, probably fourth final. MVP with three different teams. I mean, he's, you know, he's continuing to put
Starting point is 00:47:21 itself up, you know, the latter as far as who's the greatest to ever do it. That's my next question. What do you think that puts, Brian? So right now, as we stand, we're saying if he wins this, right? Yeah, so that'll be four chips and four finals MVP's. To me, before this happened, it was MJ, Coe, Braun, and it's hard. I think, you know, Kobe and Braun are neck and neck. I want to maybe see Bronn win one more next year, and I think that'll put him past Cobb and definitely in the conversation with MJ. Oh, so if he'd get one more, you're saying he jumped both Mike and Kobe. That would be two more. We're saying he's going to get, he's got
Starting point is 00:47:58 the one coming up. There's one coming up. He's about to grab, so that'll be four for him. You know, Kobe got five, MJ got six. So I think if Bron is able to get five, you know, you definitely at the same table with Kobe and MJ and definitely in the conversation with be in the greatest of all time because if you look at it by the time it's all said and done lebron is going to lead in every statistical category in the playoffs minutes field goals points you name it probably going to be the all time leading score yeah but he has a chance to be the all time leading score he's probably got you know another handful of years to get that but uh you know what he's been able to do i think we i think we take his greatness for granted
Starting point is 00:48:33 sometimes you know what i mean because he's been doing it for so long this motherfucker's been in this prime his whole career like how many people could really say they've been in their prime since they came in the game. So I think we take his greatness sometimes for granted. But he's a tremendous player and it's just a beautiful thing, seeing him go out there every night and do his thing. Who's on your mountain, Rushmore? Is that five people? My Mount Rushmore, no particular order is Mike, Coe, Braun, Shaq, and Magic. That's four Lakers, too. That's crazy, right? Yeah, I would have to say, I give Shaq and Kobe up there. I would have to definitely say Jordan.
Starting point is 00:49:12 That's three. LeBron. That's four. And Will. Yeah, Will's out there. See, I don't like hating against Will, but to me, when Will played, it was a different time because the average height of the person was y'all's height. You know what I mean? In the other, I'm six.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I'm six. Outside, you know, with all due respect to Bill Russell and what he was able to do, just the average competition he was facing night in night out wasn't the caliber that Shaq was facing going against Elijah one and Ewing and you name it. You know what I mean? and it was a different time. So I think Wilt was definitely ahead of his time. I think he was incredible. But I would want to see Wilt play against more competition. Like I said, obviously the great Bill Russell.
Starting point is 00:49:48 They used to have their battles. And obviously Bill has 11 rings. But, you know, outside of that, there wasn't really too many people that could go toe to toe with Will. For me, I think that Jordan is the best player in LeBron is number two. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Yeah, it's hard. You can't argue. I think with those guys, one, two, three, M.J. Cobb, and Brian, it's hard to argue. And I see it because, I just see it because Brian had more pressure on him than anybody ever in the history of the game.
Starting point is 00:50:18 You know, he was on, you know, all types of magazines. Chosen one, you know, what, 14 on the cover of Sports Illustrated. And he came and he did everything. Everything they thought he was. He lived up. And more. How often do you hear people that actually live up to the expectation and, you know, surpass the expectation?
Starting point is 00:50:36 I think Brian's been a, has it been 10 or 11? 10 finals, 9 straight. No way about it. 9 straight? Yeah. It's something stupid like that. Yeah. 10 finals.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Like 17 years? It's incredible. That's unbelievable. And some people want to knock his record, but you think about it, he took some bullshit-ass teams there. They shouldn't even been there. First of all, the team with Moe Williams and Larry Hughes and O'Galskis and like come on i don't think i me personally i don't think jordan gets that team to it's tough because
Starting point is 00:51:11 he does so he plays where he wears so many hats when he's playing know he's really can literally play one through five and do whatever you need i think obviously you give the scoring peer scoring edge to jordan and mj but that was more uh excuse me jordan co but that was more their mo right ron was the great if you think about a gron brown is a great score but he's also top ten and assists right like that's something in mike and co he let the league and assists in Years 17. I think his assist was probably, like, his early career, like, where he got criticized the most because he wasn't in the clutch moments taking advantage, you know?
Starting point is 00:51:44 Well, I think people, I got a chance to play with Kobe. I missed MJ about a year, but they were fucking killers, like, instinct. Like, if we're going to lose, I'm going to take that last shot. And I respected that, and I love that because I got a chance to play with it and against it. But people knock Brown for making the right play. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:59 LeBron is the personal shit. If you've got three motherfuckers on me, I'm going to pass it to my teammate to hit the game winning shot. miss the only bad part is braung gets the criticism absolutely he wasn't aggressive and not the guy who missed the wide open corner three exactly it's like why you didn't shoot with four people on right you know what i'm saying it's a tough situation but you can't go wrong with any of them absolutely let me ask you a question man about regular life and marriage because i know you've been married you know you went to a divorce or you married again you're in a relationship single no i'm a single
Starting point is 00:52:31 single dad of three single dad of three so what was the worst thing about marriage and what was the best thing about marriage the worst thing about marriage marriage is tough and I think the one thing that people mistake in marriage is that we put this is your craft now my craft was basketball my craft to this now we put so much time and effort and the things we're passionate about it I don't think we put that same energy and effort into marriage it's kind of just like there okay like I I love my spouse, but I'm not going to put the same amount of attention in time. You're right. That makes me my money, my career.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Right. So, like I said, and I'll be the first to tell you that I didn't do that. You know, so I just think it's tough, especially being in the league with the world on you. We made a mistake of being on that bullshit reality TV early on. So it made it, you know, that much tougher. I would never say it was the fault of the reason we divorced because it wasn't. It was just, it made it. When you allow people to look into your life, you can't get mad when they start criticizing or trying to critique shit.
Starting point is 00:53:31 you know what I mean because we opened that door up so um that was probably the toughest part um the best part was just being able to have you know like two beautiful twins you know they just beat you guys a second to go in the pickup you keep putting that out there in the jane no first time I actually said it but that's uh that was that's on tape too it's tough it's on tape it's about to go up it's tough it's on tape um but that was the best thing you know that you know and now that we're on good terms too we know we're raising two beautiful young uh black men right now and in a crazy time in this world, and I think that's the best thing that we've been able to circle back around after six years of being separated and just co-parent for the greater good of our kids.
Starting point is 00:54:09 So that's what's my favorite part. Just being able to respect each other no matter what happened. I think that's the key. I think a lot of times we, no matter what happened in life, friendships, partnership, anybody always get crazy, get trashy. And to be example for your children, because your children is watching. Watching everything. They're taking notes of how they should act when they're growing up based off of the way
Starting point is 00:54:28 you all teach them by how y'all treat each other. So it's this great that you all really got that stuff together. It took time because, you know, some people take longer than others. Some people get right to bed. Obviously, our shit was, you know, public record. And we went through some shit where we were able to, you know, put all the bullshit aside. And me and old boy were able to make up and be cool. And then her and I getting back on the same page.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Like I said, at the end of day, it's for the kids. Because you can see when her and I are like this, I see the kid's energy is off in school and in focus. And one of my sons started eating a lot. And it was just like, that's all because of the example we're setting. You know what I mean? And so I really had to be like, you know, it's not arguing with you. The energy that we're given towards each other is not worth it no more. And, you know, like I said, she finally came around about six, eight months ago.
Starting point is 00:55:09 And when I tell you, like, things are great as far as us just being able to conversate and co-parent. It's been amazing. Absolutely. And sometimes as parents, we don't understand that the things we do. That's cool. And the things that the kids see really affect them. Oh, there's no question. I mean, they're sponges.
Starting point is 00:55:26 They're sponges. You know what I mean? There's so much. there's so much baggage that most people care from their childhood and now like before it was kind of weak to talk about it you know but that's that's a part of that mental health you know what I mean and it's it's it's discussed now but it's there's stuff that way I mean I have issues loving because of the way how fucked up my dad was in my childhood you know in the example I saw in my life you know and at 40 years old I realized that you know what I mean so you're definitely sponges from little band's age is about to be two you know the twins are about to be 12 like they see in here and hear everything. So like I said, the most important thing with me is just raising them to be good men, but setting a better example for what, like, I could say all I want to say. I give them plenty of game, but they got to see my words meet my actions. Let me ask you a question. How do the medication work, the marijuana for your trauma and everything? Is that real therapeutic?
Starting point is 00:56:17 I've been smoking since I was 14. So I smoked all through high school, all through UCLA, and through my whole NBA career. And obviously, I took a chance doing that, but to me, there was no other alternative. You know, my parents were drug addicts, functioning drug addicts. My dad was a drug dealer, so I saw it all at an early age, cocaine, crank, you name it in front of me, people passed out, people fucked up. And I either say you either go that way or you go the opposite way. And I can probably say I went the opposite way. Just at 14, you know, I started stealing some weed from my dad and kind of enjoyed it because it was an escape. You know, it allowed me to focus. It allowed me to sleep. It allowed me, what's that? No, bro. It just,
Starting point is 00:56:56 allowed me to do a lot of different, a lot of things that I couldn't find from anywhere else, you know, at 14, I'm not thinking about drinking or taking any pills, but I never needed to because I found what I needed with cannabis at 14. So I've been able to do that throughout my career. So it's beautiful to see, you know, shit, 26 years later, there's actually medical research backing up everything I've been saying more than half my life. You know, we could talk to we're blue in the face about how we feel and how it makes us feel. But until there's medical research behind it, which there is now, we weren't going anywhere. So we're definitely making strides as a cannabis community.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Absolutely. So, you know, we don't want to hold you too long. We know you got you, we're younger here, man, but we've seen you, we bumped into you, you know, we big fans, we always bust it up on the phone. No doubt. We big fans. We said, we said, we miss it. No, we got to, like I said, we all got to sit down and you do our show.
Starting point is 00:57:44 We do your show and sit down and really try to get some money together, too, because I think, you know, us three and my brother Jack, you know, we're some of the most powerful voices and respected voices in the space. And right now, we need more leadership. you know than we've ever needed so the more we can come together and do shit together get money together and help the world together i always look at it as a blessing absolutely man and shout out to jack man you already know you stack five stack five yeah stack five i'd post him up back in the day like my moves was like they still talk about my moves no i did
Starting point is 00:58:13 11 no i didn't no i did my a c l they were shooting jumpers and going by y'all and getting in my my ACLs tender though yeah he's just grabbing everything high saws if you can get his hands on, he's going to look. Absolutely, man. But listen, man, to let them know all of it, when the show come out, what time? All the smoke every Thursday. Showtime, showtime, this is my camera, all the smoke, showtime, basketball, YouTube, eye hard, and the black effects every Thursday.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Find me Matt underscore Barnes-9. I hope to come back and really sit down and have a session with y'all, man, because I really love what y'all are doing, man. I'm a big fan of the show. Just make it happen. And this was on the fly. We just ran into each other. We got to get you.
Starting point is 00:58:56 We set up Real quick You want our favorites Let's go So man We salute you Man We always going to be
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Starting point is 00:59:12 fellas Appreciate you It's just like Dad Yeah Yeah

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