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Right.
Yes, huh?
Demon time.
Demon time.
After nine, she's a vibe.
Yeah, demon time.
Yeah.
Shaking.
And her back at the break.
Yeah, demon time.
Demon time.
Demon time.
I killed the pussy, but she's alive.
Yeah, it's demon time.
She's reading minds.
I see the lies.
It's in her eyes.
Her throat swallowed my soul.
My soul.
I don't feel nothing, no more this bitch popping in.
When she starts, she ain't stopping it.
When I nuts, she swallowed it.
Demon Time.
Only fans, pornubs, strip clubs.
That's what she's a husslux.
She's Netflix and sucking dick.
No shame in the game.
She's fucking with it.
with it here demon time
Demon time
We started off
69
Yeah
Now this cat
Got my tongue
Back shots don't run
Don't run
My fuck this bitch with my gun
Three rounds
I'm done
Put the pussy
It's amazing
It's even though
It's not even though I'm trying
It's like it's just
I don't know this
It's not a thing
It's a thing
Demon time
Demon time
After nine
She's a vibe
Yeah demon time
Yeah to ask you to shaking
And her back gets a break
Yeah demon time
Demon time
I killed the pussy
But she's alive
Yeah it's demon time
She's reading minds
I see the lies
Listen her eyes
Listening listening listening
Listening
Oh God
Demon time
Demon time
Demon Time killed her pussy
But she's alive
Hell of an intro
Hell of an intro
I got to give you all that
I think everybody
Been there before
I think you had a moment
of your life
Where you just been there before
Because I don't even know
Where I'm at right now
Just thoughts
To certain situations
Well you may not be on demon time
Right now
There's only two
I'm talking about
I'm talking about
I'm talking about
I'm talking about
On the aspect of
Just remember
Selly time
Selly time
I didn't anybody mess
When they sell it
But you're now tuned in to
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I like to introduce myself.
I keep telling you about that shit.
I don't care, but you want to introduce yourself.
I go by the name of Gil and the game.
You feel what I'm saying?
He goes by the name of.
We got a legend over here.
In jail, they called him Wallow, two dick seven.
That's something different.
We got a legend in here because.
And I finally got somebody in here, right?
The legend of one and only, Rashiie Wallace.
Yes.
That could co-signed that this fucking dude was a bummed.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
He was a fucking bump.
Because listen,
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Josh?
Yeah.
No, no, no.
We were to the hospital.
No, no, no, no.
Get into the first.
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Now, now we're going to get right to, you know, for years.
you see it on Instagram
If the story is told by Gilly
He was this hell of a Hall of Fame
Philadelphia basketball players
Especially you know high school
But he was
You see you got three
You got three
I'm talking about three
Philly
You know
Basketball high school players right here
Me and she was a little bigger than him
I played for Dobbins
He played for Franklin Shee played for Simon Gratz
Okay
Just for the records
Me and she was with the big college
Just for the records
Simon Gratz and Ben Franklin
is known basketball
Staples in Philadelphia
and Dobbins is not
so okay keep on so you went to a bullshit school
all right cool
at the end of the day
see could you just let the people know out here
that this dude was not
NWACP
whatever NWA
NWACCP
I'm at 10CWA
Worthy
Division 1 like could you please tell the people
what black people
Worthy.
I'm not saying WACP.
You know,
you know,
what you're trying to figure out from him?
Was my,
was I,
was I anything I said I was?
Could he would have,
could he back to leave?
Go back and look at the tape.
That's what,
thank you.
Thank you.
Computers.
That's all you got to.
He's nowhere on tape.
What you tell?
Let me take something.
You crazy shit.
Like, you could pull up old
daily news articles.
Ted Salary called my mama house
two, three times.
You don't even know who
Ted Salary is.
Right.
I know what Sunny Hill was.
I used to play Sunny Hill League.
Man, you knew Sunny Hill because Sunny Hill is a known basketball league that's in Philadelphia.
You ain't never played something.
I was a All-Star.
Fuck is wrong with you.
You played up Camp Hill, motherfucker.
You was a Camp Hill, Austin.
Me home with the big colleges.
You was a Camp Hill All-Star.
I'm going to ask you know, now we got an NBA legend.
I'm going right into it.
You had to pick a team, right?
Mm-hmm.
Who are your team?
Who are your team?
Personally cheer for?
No, I'm talking about one team.
I'm talking about you picking individual players from whatever leads.
I mean, whatever, you know, eras.
Wow, man.
Shit.
Wow.
That's, that's, wow.
I knew LeBron on there.
I know Mike on there.
Off the fly for me again.
here we go
of course
I'm biased
you know because I'm a big man
so for me
I would guess if I'm picking a team
I'm going to go
big everybody
point guard
if I had to pick a big team
it would be magic
if I had to pick a big team
at a two guard it would be somebody like
Alex English
if I had to pick a three
for me I'm showing a little again
biased
favoritism because I grew up in Philly
Doc is always going to be
for me and my top five anything
because he got me like in
basketball, you know what I mean? And then
for me my four and five
would be
Kareem and Will.
That's my big team.
How are you and say LeBri and Mike?
They're too little. They're too little. My top five
would dust your top five. Who's your top five? Who's your top five?
Who would you say? Who's your top five? Okay.
Who would you match against that team right there?
I said.
Oh, they got a shot.
First of all, first of all, that team ain't got no children.
Who's your point?
Who's your point?
My point guard, without a doubt, is going to be.
I play points sometime.
Whoever you going to name, they too little.
Mm-mm.
The only other cat is going to cancel out.
It's going to cancel out.
The only other cat you can name as far.
but he's not a point
I put Jordan at the two
I put Kobe at the three
I put Shaq at the five
Shaq at the five
Shaq went
dunk them niggas in the court
I don't know
I know
I'm talking about a young Shaq
okay
I'm talking about the
diesel
so I ain't talking about
no old ass players myself
I'm talking about
and they primes too
Jack
with a dunk
hey man
Wilk Chamber
would have put Shaq
in that bucket too
bro
but we never seen that
from Will
because Will
was playing against
niggas my height true true the same thing with um i couldn't guard will true right
this is the two tallest niggas in the world at the time like anybody else and then i uh
give me a young luau cinder what who had who got the only unstoppable shot in NBA history
that sky hook man that's cool shack with a donkey minute it's shack with a foul can
ream out in the first three minutes mm-mm it had four and a half fouls man the first three
minutes man come on man who's your top five players all time man man i just told you man i'm more
of a i'm biased because i i go with big man okay so you're saying you're not picking
the real top players you do you picking your top players yeah who would you happen to be
but they're not the real players no but you know they ain't the top five all time why aren't they
Who's...
Who's better than Kareem?
Mike.
How?
Why?
LeBron.
What makes them better than Kareem?
Tell them...
What makes them better than Kareem?
Tell me, please.
I mean, Kareem got, as far as the scoring title, Kareem on that.
But Kareem played for 111 years, man.
It's not his fault.
No, it's not.
Okay, next.
But what I'm saying is, Jordan was...
It's the goat.
What makes him the goat?
Because he was the great...
He's number one in
One category
I give it to him
Tipping my hat
Six and O in the finals
Now that's impressive
No no no no no
That's impressive
Wait wait wait
Jordan beat niggas ass is so bad
That he said man
I'm tired of this shit
You niggas can't beat me
Man I gotta take a break man
This shit too easy
One the baseball and struck the fuck out
Right
That's cool
And had to come back
Because these niggas not a challenge
I mean
Like you gotta understand
You know who the happiest nigger
If you want to say Michael Jordan's the goat of being one of the greatest competitors to play this game, I can hear that.
He's a killer.
He's a greatest basketball ever of all time.
How?
It's the greatest basketball player of all time.
He ain't number one in no offensive category.
He ain't number one and no defensive category.
How?
And then if you want to be like, oh, because he won championship, shit.
No, no.
Early I just named a couple of guys who got more chips then.
Because the eyeball test don't lie.
I mean, I'm not different.
denying that Mike wasn't a great player
dog I'm not denying that
okay but I'm just saying he wasn't
to me he wasn't the great Jabbar
it's the greatest of all time this man
been retired for damn there like 30 years or more
dog and his numbers is still
sitting up there because he played for
11 11 years
it's not my fault the nigga was playing
in this fucking it's not
my fault here no nobody
nobody living for 111 years
it's not my fault fan no he's right
now kareem my dude your bar's 114
you can't play that
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
was in fucking flicks with Bruce Lee, Bruce Lee
been dead for 60 years. That's why he alleged to know
that do adds shit to his whole legacy.
He was in fucking joints with Bruce.
That's some next level shit.
Can we just get this out the way?
Man, it's hard to say, man.
You know, Mike ever had any running?
As far as what?
Did you ever had to check Mike on the court?
Maybe for like a play or two.
It wasn't nothing where it was like for a whole game.
No, I was talking shit.
to him.
What's the craziest shit you ever told somebody on the court?
Huh?
What's the craziest shit you ever told somebody on the court?
Come on,
you're retired now.
Give me the ball because I'm about to beat his motherfucking ass.
Who was that?
Oh, anybody.
That's how I felt.
So you just said, give me the ball because I'm about to beat his fucking ass.
That was the worst shit you said.
Man, because I never was one to say nothing about all your mom.
You third of all time.
Hold on, wait.
They were the, they were.
No, no, it wasn't for another player.
It wasn't to another player
I never really had beef with another player
All time in technical foul
And the worst shit you ever said
To a player was
Give me the ball bottomed this nigga's ass
I never had beef with another player
For real for real when I played in the league
My beef was always with management
My beef was always with the rest in the league
With the craziest shit you ever told the ref
Yeah man
I'll fuck them up with this one
I'll fuck them up with this one
Come on let's keep it real man
I told this one ref
I was like yo you know
if y'all keep fucking with me
I'm gonna hire someone to
um hack your website
because they had a direct website
you know with uh david stern
a little email
uh conversations and shit
you know directly with david stern
I knew about it
now I'm not going to tell you how I knew about it
but I knew about it and that was one of the things
I told the boy and then
I would probably say that
and I told this one this one
ref on the restaurant right
I knew about it you was doing you was doing your
investigation and I was like man
y'all keep fucking with me man
I'm gonna get somebody to burn your restaurant down
damn oh shit
I mean you know bang all right away
you see you can take a nigga out of Philly
you can't take the Philly out of niggas
for sure nigga tap the ref ain't nigga
but listen you mean to tell me
they had a special email chain
Burnt down based off you no no no
it wasn't just based off me it was just
period it was period because you know
had a lot of big games, you know, they had certain
crews, refereeing, you know, certain
big TV games, Christmas games,
Thanksgiving games, all that stuff. So
it was, it was
conversation amongst of that.
So I knew about it. How did you say it?
Like, did you, do you, you were going to
burn your fucking house? No, I was on the slide. It wasn't
loud. Was you like, Delisandro's
your restaurant?
One of the tech, that bitch's going to burn to it.
No, I didn't even ask them the name of his restaurant.
I already knew it. I already knew it.
That's what I'm saying.
Did he tell him you?
Did he say he tell him?
No, he gave me a tech.
But see, that was back then that for me, especially,
you didn't have to give a reason why you giving me a tech.
So how much money total did you pay in tech fees?
Oh, that I don't know.
To be honest.
Is it in a million?
No.
No.
Hundreds of thousands.
Actually, actually, actually, I got fine.
One point two.
when I got into it
I got fine
1.2
when I got into it
with a certain referee
and they suspended me
seven games.
Why the fucking certain way
who's how
he was that important
1.2 important?
I mean at the time
that was what I was making
you know
divvy dealt with my contract
that's when I first
signed a big contract
with Portland
and it cost me
for seven games
it cost me 1.2
and I mean
through time eventually
I ended up
you know getting it back but yeah man that was that was the biggest uh i guess
fine you could say that i ever ever probably got 1.2 million you had to pay it
what oh they all automatic off top that's like they like uncle sam fam so what you're saying is
so what you're saying is so what you're saying is you are in the millions then in fines um
well no no no that wasn't necessarily a fine that was more of us that was that
was a suspension.
Like with me getting fined, like, text, like, it was what, all right, it started out, I think
like 500, then they moved it up to a stack, and then they came out with the sheet
Wallace Tech rule.
They didn't want to say that, but that's what it was, you know, 16 techs, then you
get suspended a game, and then each tech you get after that is another heavy or hefty fine
or whatever, but for me it wasn't about that.
You're going to hear what I got to say.
You know what I'm saying?
Especially if I don't say nothing, I get a tech.
Oh, no.
Boy, then shit, I might as well go ahead then.
You're going to hear what I got to say then if I know I'm going to get fined, why not?
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A beast was solved.
Steph Curry.
And we talk about from your era.
We're not talking about from this era.
Would the game change?
We talk about if they was playing in your era, would they be?
Oh, oh, saw.
Okay.
If you talk of my era, it's off.
James Hart.
Again, my era is off.
Hold on for one second, y'all.
LeBron James.
In my era, he probably would have done good
because with his physical stature,
with him being a little bit bigger than a majority of the rest.
So he probably would have held his own,
but I don't think he would have been as successful as he is.
now like now is man you know what I mean like he's doing it young boy doing it
you know I mean so but it was a whole different era back then bro so
beast or soft I just told you beast then you know I think I think he would have held
his own I can't necessarily say he would have been a beast but I think he would have held his
own Riala well Ray played during that era
he did oh my god I just wanted to know person he's in his era was Riala the beast or was he soft
No, no, Ray Allen was a monster, dog.
Ray Allen was a shark shooter.
Kevin Durant.
And in that era,
uh, no, I don't think he would have had too much success.
Now he's, he's a monster.
And this area, he's a monster, dog.
So you don't think Kevin Durant would have been a beast?
Well, because you got to look at it.
Back then, you had a lot more personal.
The game was inside out.
Now it's outside in.
Mm-hmm.
So you don't, you got guys out there that's like,
Rudy Gober
They're not even posting his brother up
Now granted
He got a little bit of post moves
I mean shit
He made it this far though
Doing these little post moves
Who's one is Rudy
What team he played for?
Utah
The first motherfucker that got Corona
In the league
Yeah
No what's the boy I like
The team
That was scoring on the points
Score 50 points
Oh you're talking about Rudy
Trudy Fresh and Fruity ran the jail league
No dude that was playing
He loved Rudy Tudy
Trus and Frust and Frustin
A league
Fuck out of here
He was nuts
What about, my man?
He let the jail league
and score.
Dreyman Green.
Drey, that's my young world, but he's too little.
But is he a beast mode that he's soft?
In my era, no, it's soft.
J.R. Smith.
Too little in my era.
Got a dog.
But it was six full players in your era.
But here's what I'm saying.
Like, look at Mike.
Mike is a classic two-go.
at 6-4-6-5 but these other cats here it is now uh jr he's a two-three but it's smaller
it was smaller players right you know what i'm saying it's a whole different mindset because like
i said you started inside out yo if me and you playing hey all day give me that rock right
here in this post because i got a mouse in the house and that was how it was when
When I was playing, that's how we took advantage of mismatches.
Now they take advantage of mismatches out of the top of the key or the wing with an ISO and you got 600 million dribbles and crossovers and all this shit.
Dog, that's not.
No, I'm going to go.
Yeah, foul 30.
You're not going to sit there and stand and do that to me all damn day, dog.
The twins.
I love them.
My young boys.
Yes.
I love them.
Let's go, the twins.
Yeah.
For sure, I'm rocking with them beasts.
I'm rocking with him.
No doubt.
No, my young boys.
DeWain Wee.
Now, listen.
Hold on.
Don't think about his outfits.
We just talk about it on the court.
All right.
You might think about the way that a little ass tight is.
For back then.
Spicy fits.
I think he would have held his own to, for the simple fact, of his scoring drive.
Like, he has a high presence to score.
And we wanted content.
And definitely before his little knee injury.
Before his knee injury, he was.
He reminded me of a kid, and I don't know if y'all remember a young boy by the name, Randy Livingston.
Yeah.
That's who he kind of sort of reminded me of, but D. Wade wasn't a point.
He was a two.
I mean, Randy was a point, but that athleticism for a guy aside, like, yeah.
He's a, he's one way or another, he's going to score.
Okay.
Let me say this, friend.
So, you know, I know you.
I know you.
We've been, you know, friends for 20 plus high school.
You know, I know you used to.
you know
foe the henny back
I knew you was a henny man
at one time
you know
yes sir
um
you know I got a lot of
people that I know
and this is
this is a platform where we live our truths
no doubt
no doubt no I just want to ask you
something true
I heard Mary Jay Blige and you was off the handy
and Mary Jay Blige tried to give you some of that goddamn
I'm just thinking
I'm just how I fucked you up
I know you're thinking like
who the fuck's old of this
I'm just saying
I just said I heard Mary try to get down
he started laughing
oh
in the good old days
but but um yeah man that that was back then though that was back then you know a long time ago
it was uh everybody was kind of tipsy and drunk off of that henny so what but when she was
when the tipsy was drunk did the song play was the song playing what you're going to do
without my love was that playing in your mind no it was another song playing in my mind a song that was
a song that was somehow
involved me that I didn't want to be part of
so no it was
and plus at the time
I was married so I'm like
oh no and my wife was over there
so you're divorced now yeah yeah I'm divorced
my wife was giving me the ice grill at the time
too so oh no oh no I'm not
back then the slogan was a
happy wife or happy life
no I never been my motherfucker slogan
I mean shit my slogan happy husband we
fucking fussing.
Fuck's going on
this joke. Nigger
come in, nigga pay the bills.
Nick put food in the refrigerator.
Well, fucking get the car
gas in the car
with fucking bags and
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Creamy Head Lowe.
Why would they call me that?
That's a little special, but it's cool.
They kept catching you're coming out of the old assails.
Yeah, that's cool.
Let's get back to Rosh and Mary J. Blodz.
What was going on with that Mary J. Bloss thing?
Yeah, so won't she laid it out, spread it out?
Negative Ghost Rider.
Oh, you never did?
No, no.
She was just trying to get baked.
Hey, I told my biggest thing, I'm not trying to end up in no song.
Give me some hot water.
Oh, okay.
Went to it off.
So, was it because you was.
scared of your wife because how did you like how you not
make married Jake like in a prom?
Yo let me ask you a question before you were scared of your wife
Oh for sure
The whole married thing that was something crazy
How was the groupies what I know y'all go from city to city
Was the groupies did the groupies you did just be at the NBA players hotels
Yeah
Waiting for y'all like
Like in the lobby bar area
Yeah just like he was randomly
You're no longer married
No no I'm not married
So did you fuck a couple groupies
Now
When I was married
No
dick it's not married no more
so you can tell her to me
I was slaying the bitches like Santa
I say
like that no
I mean maybe
oh no real talk
real talk
maybe a couple here and there
but you didn't
want to get caught up in that circle
for the simple fact of
exactly what you just said
the groupies
so we're playing them
we're playing the city on Tuesday
so we get there Monday night
all right they in the lobby
or if the club is popping back then,
strip club or whatever,
all right,
they're there, boom,
we played.
What city had the best strip club back then?
Shit,
I mean,
Atlanta was cool.
Detroit is cool.
Houston was cool.
I mean, shit.
It was fun.
It was a hell of a ride.
Damn,
he said it was a hell of a ride.
Yeah,
it was a hell of a ride.
It was an hell of a ride.
Did the group ever mess your game up?
Negative.
So a group he never sent you to the game was a weak knee.
Negative.
Can't mess the bread up, fan.
There's also what I heard about you and another team made on the team.
Out in Portland at the trip club,
they said they used to call y'all the Portland tailblazers.
Oh, no.
So you all used to tear them bitches up at them.
No, no, a negative ghost rider.
Listen, I remember I was in jail
I see the article
The Portland Jail Blazers
They said y'all wasn't no joke
Y'all was gonna get locked up
on that team like crazy
Here's the crazy thing about it
Ain't nobody ever get locked up
Why they call y'all the jailblazers
Because at the time
It was all part of that
That image
And it was the only thing
That rhymed with trailblazers
What's going to rhyme
With tailblazers
Nah, nah, man
I'm gonna out of here
Fuck out of here
Fuck out of here
Fuck out of here
That's crazy
But, no, I mean, looking at the team we had, a lot of people wanted to get us out of town, but a lot of people also liked us.
But, I mean, nobody went to jail, though.
You know, we didn't have.
So they just wrote a fake-ass article.
Well, I mean, that was just the, right?
I mean, it was one of them joints.
It was one of them.
I'm not sure who started it.
Yeah, me neither.
I'm not sure who started it.
Yeah.
But, yeah, it ended up coming out.
Oh, Portland jail.
blazers and this and that oh and then your man adopted it to um bill walton and all that stuff so
but ain't nobody go to jail though dog right that so that was the thing that always mystified
us about it but it was just because we weren't media darlings at the time we were the only
sports illustrated portland jail bleeges we were the only show in town Portland yeah only professional
show next next big city was Seattle and you know they had at the time they had the mariners they
had the Seahawks.
They had the Sonics.
In Portland
just had the Blazers.
Right.
And so we were their main focus
and cats wanted to,
I would say beat writers
wanted to get up out of there.
And so now, all right,
so what's the best way?
Let me write something negative.
Maybe one of these other big papers
in another city will catch it
and think I'm doing good and boom.
Now I'm off.
Yeah, beat writers, yeah.
No.
That's why that was my whole rant
with the media.
That's why I stopped talking to him.
if you're going to print what I say
cool but if you're going to sit up here
and make some shit up about me and my teammates
and about what we're doing
no I'm not rocking with that though
it was it was foul you know some media cats man
they went to the point where
it was one black club
right at the time in Portland was one black club
and so the guys are coming there you know
maybe after a game we're coming off the road
and maybe if we get home before
1.30. So, boom, we go in there, you know, for a little drink or whatever. And, or if we
hanging out in there during the regular time we're home, say you come in town. Like, oh, man,
Rosh, let's go to the club, whatever. All right, cool, we're going to go to the ball. They
will have people in there counting our drinks. The reporter boys will be sitting outside and
it's a quick tip for the cops. Boom, yeah. This car looks like it's swerving. As soon as we
pull out from the join, the next thing you know, we'll be. We, we'll be sitting there. We,
whoop, but it's to be the first to get the story.
Right.
But we peep game to it and all of that, you know.
Some deep shit, man.
Oh, man, it's a, bro.
It even get deep with the agents, man.
Yes.
Like, like, one of my homies, you know, that I ain't going to say his name.
He's playing the NFL, you know what I mean?
And, you know, him and his agent was cool.
I'm talking about kick it.
I know his agent, met his agent.
I don't kicked it with his agent a couple times.
you feel
what I'm saying
cool dude
seeing like
cool
come to find out
the agent
was stealing
from him
this nigga had
this nigga had
mortgages
and houses
and shit
in his name
that
he's like
what the fuck
I don't got
no fucking
house
he's looking at
his phone
like I don't
got no
fucking house out there
but he's seeing
shit
come out his account
He's like, wait, I don't have a fucking condo.
What the fuck is going on?
Yeah.
So now he hired somebody else to overlook everything that he's supposed to be doing it, yeah?
And come to find out, man, man that stole 400,000,000 from him.
Now, this way it get ugly.
He found out that the agent stole the money.
from him right
but he had a relationship
with the agent
who his wife
his kids like the agent
him and the agent
really used to kick it
that's where he fucked up at
first of all kicking it
with your agent and all that
and then
he had got arrested
for smoking weed
the agent
no
oh the player
it flew under the radar
never came out
the agent when he fired the agent the agent sent the shit to adam chefner
now the shit come out three years later wow that's some hate the shit because
because i quit you stealing money from me you mad because i didn't even take you to court
and i got it and i'm trying to save face i didn't even take you to court of none of that i just
fired you and you was mad at me and sent my
police report from when I got locked up that flew under the radar of the whole NFL to
Adam Schaffner and that shit was on ESPN two days later yeah that's some hating shit right
there it's a vicious game out here oh man all over money dog all over a green piece of paper
what's the craziest shit you you've seen a friend or family member do about some money
as far as coming to you man well
I mean, I got a lot of it as far as, you know, can I borrow this amount or that amount?
Can you co-sign for me for this car, this house?
Can you open a bank account and put it in my daughter's name?
You ain't got to put it in my name.
Put it in my daughter's name or my son name.
Man, I don't hurt everything.
All my, you know, the kids need some toys for Christmas.
My mom's sick.
I'm fucked up
You're ready to take the house
Yeah
I mean I heard it all
I heard it all
How many stories did you pay?
For family
In the beginning
It was quite a few
It was quite a few
Because in the beginning
In the beginning
You have that sorry
mentality
And it's hard because
Motherfuckus know you got money
It's like
You know Raj got 50 million
you. And the fact that
I'm only asking for $3,000.
For me. Right. You know what I mean? Like, oh,
damn they were at the games and you know what I mean,
this and that. So it was like that little bit of guilt. How much you gave away
your first two years?
My first two years, not much.
My first two years, I mainly, I just got myself a truck and
I bought my mom a crib. And that was it.
So I was, I was stingy. But it was
when I first signed my big contract with Portland
and the one thing that they always do with basketball players
in the USA Today
every year they print what they make
from the first dude on the team
to the last dude on team
you know from the 20 plus millions
to the guy that's making the league minimum
with 1.2 right they print it all in there
so everybody again like you just said a second ago
know what you're making so yeah you're getting them calls
now when you go to these different cities
oh I'm your cousin
remember me and you know I know
your mom and this and I'm like
all right
I ain't never seen you before or you know
where was you at when things was fucked up
when the lights got shut off and they ain't had nothing to eat
where was you at then I ain't see
none of this then so that's who I pretty much
looked out for the people who looked out for
me my mom and my brothers
when I was coming up right everybody
else I mean shit
no y'all grown
y'all are my responsibility y'all grown i'm responsible me personally i'm responsible to take care of
my mom and my brothers my wife and my kids that's how i felt you know back then at that time
what was the hardest thing about marriage for you um for me
i don't know that's a good question um
i would have to say for me just being away from them so much
because you know it's 41 games on a row and 41 games at home and at times you're away from your family for you know weeks to do your job but you know I would have to say that was the one of the hardest things or the thing that I hated the most was just being away from my family so much I missed a lot of shit with my kids coming up right you know I was thankful to be able to catch the things I did but I wish back then we had this
these like the whole video calls or whatever then okay i can at least see a little bit of it but it's
one thing when you're there and you see it and i missed a lot of that man you know just being on
the road but you know i my son said to me one day we're all driving he got a little play he was
doing right my youngest son he said all right he said dad you coming to the play i said yeah i'm coming
we all driving there now so boom as a family we mobbed to a school so they've been in the back
prepping and I got to get ready to go because we got a team meeting because we're about to
start the season so boom I'm like oh man all right boom I had to leave so he finds out you know
he comes out performing my ex-wife was telling me she's like oh he was looking for you and this and
that so he was like this in the stands and didn't see you and he was sad and this and that right so
I was talking to him and he was like well mom where's dad at and she was like son daddy had to go
you know he had to go work or he would have got fined ten thousand dollars and my son
hit some real shit dog he was like he's like what he said dad didn't want to see my play what
i'm not i'm not worth ten thousand dollars and i was like and when my wife told me that i was
like damn i was like that fuck me up right there dog that's hard but but it also helped set a lot
of things into perspective like like all right i got a little smart ass kid right here who
thinks about family shit
and that's what we all grew up on.
Right.
Shit.
Thank God my fucking kids
ain't said that.
Fuck them right.
10,000.
I'll get the fucking money
as you're talking about.
Do me a favor of record this little
nigga singing. I'm watching a lady all
with you.
I'm going to get this fucking bag.
But that's just me,
Raj.
Obviously, is Raj's too.
Yeah, I had to do it, man
Get up out of here
Yeah, I had to do it
For real
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Of all times, who's the best NBA player to rap?
All we up to the day.
that's a good one because you
I would have to say
between
I like Dane Dollars
Well wait
Can I put myself in there because I did play in the GV
I did play in the NBA TV
I did I beat the second cut
I'm going to ask you some shit about him after that
but his music shit with this guy
but I would say
Dane Dollars
and
my young boy
Mons Schumper
Shump go hard
Oh what's up with Sha
Monsumper and Dame Dollar
I'm not
I mean Shack
Shack is all right
But I'm no
Shump spits some real shit
dog
So you're just gonna lead a diesel
out of there
No I mean
One platinum man
Yeah he did
I'm not
I'm not knocking me for that
It ain't because
I'm not knocking
The big fella
At all
Not at all
You know, he did his thing
And platinum is platinum
I don't care what you say
Platinum is platinum
Big Fuller be like she stop it
Stop a she
Because you know you know I put you in a pool
She, you know, don't do me
Oh, plenty of times
Shit
Truth
Who didn't?
Who didn't he dunk on?
Who didn't he dunk on?
I don't know
Man shit
Everybody
This is not one person who
As far as a big man
He dunked on everybody
As far as a big man
like a four or five during his time he played not one of them can say that shack didn't dunk on
him no they can't they definitely can't i know he's dunked on me how many times you dumped in
you about too many trying trying to help help side coming up poster so so it was so it was never
he backed you straight down and just no i i i never guarded them straight up as far as like
like that until I got to Detroit
when I was in
Portland.
Yeah.
We said here, Shaq,
tell about how you used to
dunk with Rashid Wallace
for the pumpkin.
Actually,
that's not true.
Oh, shit.
He said he ain't duped
to be quite a few times.
Trying to help with the bonus.
She had that high-ass
turn around fade away
off that pick and pop.
I couldn't stop that nigga either.
Rashid Wallace.
What's good, big fella?
Chill, I'm riding the ride.
What's happening?
Man, Sane, saying,
sitting up here with my family
doing a million dollars worth of game.
Okay, kill it.
What's up, man?
Don't be talking about Birdman like that,
but do something to you,
that's right, that's right, Shack.
That's right, Shack.
Damn, Burby, you got Shack.
No, we bringing another Shack album out.
We bring another Shack album out.
We bring it another Shack album out.
All right, boy.
All right, love you.
All right, good brother.
Yeah, man, that's what's up,
man, you know you're a bad motherfucker.
You know you're a BNF.
You know your BNF when Shaq gave your props.
You're a bad motherfucker, man.
No, he did won shit.
At one point, he was the best athlete on earth.
Let me ask you a question.
Because I personally, and I always say this,
I say that Shaquille O'Neal was the most dominant player.
In league history?
Yes.
For sure.
For sure.
You couldn't stop it.
You couldn't stop it.
that all that hack-a-shack shit
ain't really doing it
that's that's where the importance of
like that that 11th, 12th and 13th
guy on your bench
hey you got six all right
all right y'all go on there just hacking
just hacking if you don't go on you so what
just hacking put him on a foul line that's what a lot of
coaches was thinking but
man straight up
yeah he was I would have to say he was the most
dominant force to play in the league
real talk especially a young
Or what?
That's what I'm talking about.
My motherfucker that I can get it off the glass and take it coast to coast and dunk on you.
Young fun, when he...
Tip-top shape.
Hey, look, like I said, he gave me plenty nightmares, bro, when I was in Portland.
You know, he sent me home plenty of years, no matter if it was in the first round and conference finals, whatever.
He sent me home plenty of years, man.
What's the craziest shit you ever seen go down in the locker room?
Who you slapped in the locker room?
Come on, I need this.
Who you slap?
No, like I said, I never had no beef with no players.
No, what, with the teammates or nothing?
Two other players.
I'm kidding.
I need to know what's the craziest shit you ever seen go down in the locker room.
Come on, see, you hold them back.
You're holding back. You want to say it, but you're holding back.
Don't hold back.
It was the slam hurt around the world.
The slam hurt around the world.
Between Zach Randolph and Ruben Patterson.
Really that mean Ruben Patterson got slammed on his fucking biscuit?
So it was crazy.
Me and Bonzy.
Because I know that we was asking us to the start.
Me and Bonzy, we was the instigators.
You know, we're talking shit yet.
We're talking shit to the, oh, man, you're going to let them talk to you like that.
So it was pretty much like Zach.
Y'all remember the cat, Quintel Woods, jumper.
Yeah.
So it was, you know, they always hung together.
and everything, so doing a little inner practice stuff,
Ruben had a little bit of beef with Quintel.
So, you know, Zach, of course, taking up for his homie.
So me and Bonsie, we're talking shit.
Yeah, man, you all let him talk to you like that, this and that, da-da-da-da.
So then, boom, we hype it up.
After practice, they get to wrestling.
Zach and Ruben, they get the wrestling.
Boom.
So, you know, Rub was strong, dude, wants to Cincinnati, everything.
That's all they do over there.
Cincinnati is eat weights.
So he was, ah, uh, Zach had him.
right made one crucial mistake and went on the side a little bit and that's where
rude got him and slammed him it was on that industrial carpet you know that real thin
ass carpet with that concrete right under it slamming boom y'all remember the madden back in
the day Zach Zach was laying there like this yeah he slabs it yo and we was like whoa so he's
like everything stop stop stop and zach was hurt for a couple days though he's like he missed
like a game with two so i felt real bad but though and then so look it carried over so you
hype the nigga to get slammed on his biscuit that's some filly shit yeah i did i told you me
and bonzie we we gassed it up so it carries over so boom all right you know zack gets better
and it carries over to practice right y'all so we in practice so rupe is still
beefing with Quintel
and out of nowhere
dog
Zach
Busses
Orbital socket
Orbital socket that
was some deep shit
dog
it took me
Bonsie
Del Davis
Pitt
and like two of the other coaches
to hold
Rube back
this one we had
Mo Cheeks is our coach
out in Portland
that whole Rube wanted
to kill him
he was like she
I'm a kid
killing. He said, I'm a killing.
I said, no, Ruby, you can't kill him.
I was like, think about your kids. Think about his
family. I was like, you can't kill him,
Rube. I was like, plus we need both
y'all, because we got the Lakers coming up and all
this shit.
I'm trying to calm the brother down, man.
He's trying to tell a big about weekend. We need you to
Gargloby. Well, fucking him push his eye
on the side of the shit. Rubby, you know,
self-proclaimed itself the Kobe stopper, so
we were going on it.
That was the wildest
thing that I've ever seen in the
locker room all my years.
And I seen little, you know, a little beach and little fights like, oh, yeah, this
little bit of a little fights in there.
But that shit right there was crazy.
I was like, man.
But he broke his orbital bone.
All this up in here.
Fractured all of it.
He hit him crazy.
He sucker punched him.
I was like, yo.
So truth be told, I don't even know if they ever came to a good terms to this day.
No, you can't come to good terms when you wrestle with a motherfucker on agreement.
like we agreed to this wrestling shit
I picked you up I scooped you up
like ice cream nigger
and dumped you in the bowl
fuck is wrong with you
and you just gonna punch me all in my shit
but I'm not looking
tinch my whole fucking windows
and I ain't let no tent on my shit
I like riding clean man
you've done made my shit off dark for no reason
I was like we can never be friends
I don't know if they are
I was like man
because
Zach Randolph came off as a real
tough guy in the league.
Yeah.
So for you to sit here and tell us a nigga
dumped him on his back, then it broke his hip bones
and shit. I mean, but Zibo,
you know, Zeebo come from
a hard-ass hood. Out there
in Indiana, I ain't going on front. See, that's a lesson
to everybody growing up. It don't matter
if you come from the hood or you come from where it's good
when it got to do
with hands.
And they were just going at it. That nigga probably was a strong
nigga from the suburbs, picked Zibo up
and showed him who was Debo,
dumped him all on his fucking. I'm sorry.
Yeah, I mean
He did
You know, like I said
That's all Rue did was eat weight
You could tell Zibo from the hood
He got back my weight to that nigga
He ain't looking all in that bitch up
And
And everything
All of that
It was, I was like
Did they still play on the same team after that?
Yeah, yeah, they had to
Oh no, no, no, no, no no
We'd have had a sneakin' kind of test
Ain't had no choice
You got to get that check for your family
No, no, no.
Listen, every day
we would have been sneaking each other.
We'd have been, we'd have been,
he fucking came.
A day in practice,
that nigger wouldn't be able to shoot a layup.
That dickle would have been like,
because the reality of this is we agreed to the wrestling, man.
Yeah.
We never agreed to no wrestling.
And I worked you out a lot of times.
Whoa.
You know he was a,
he wanted everybody know he was the captain of the wrestling team in jail.
He wanted you to know.
No, actually, no, I didn't know.
They ain't anything to do.
He just got out of the line.
I just put him in the four Nelson and shit like that.
First of all, you always sneak.
I put him in the chicken wing.
I had his legs to him.
He laid on the ground.
I had his legs as a chicken wig.
He just dangling his body.
You know what I mean?
I always throw him in the little moves and shit.
First of all, he always sneak me.
He don't never get me like how Zach Randolph in the bowl was straight up.
You said Zach made the wrong move.
That's how you do.
You made the wrong move.
He got to sneak me.
He got to sneak me from behind.
You ain't no real.
I'm going to tell you all.
something. Let's get into
stories from the cell.
Ross, you ever been locked up?
Negative.
So listen, you know, everybody
know I had ball.
They know I played for Penn State.
So that was, you know,
everybody always wanted me to ball.
I mean, they're like, damn,
wow, I got a game ball.
So, you know, I ended the summer league.
I was in jail.
The first summer league I ever went into.
I might have played about,
in this summer league,
I might have played a good six minutes,
right?
And I realized that
The level of game I played
Was higher than the level of the game
These dudes played in jail
We're playing
You're talking about man
You know, in jail
When dudes talking shit to each other
It's a little different level of, you know
It's a little danger there
That's not, might not be there on a regular court
In a regular court
Right
At this time I wasn't
I wasn't up to date on the danger
Right
Somebody brought me up to date on the danger
of basketball leagues in prison
so dudes get to talk
and this down the third
and like when you're playing
but you don't got no refs
you got like dudes that might be refs
like a fishery they got referee shirts
they're regular inmates like anybody else
and it depends on
where the fucking ref is from
and who they, you know what I mean
so you got you know
you might be playing a dude from Pittsburgh
ref might be there
North Philly whatever
you know because we're in Pennsylvania
so the ref
called
like some crazy shit
going to do
foul
when I walked
and I can tell
it got a little
geographical
from where the ref was
from
and it was like
the rough got
like
just imagine
a person
just get
uh
get mugged
but it was like
it was like
he mugged him
from like
tell somebody
under a court
and get mugged
to like half court
so my whole
my whole
approach to the game
changed that
I said okay
I know what play
I got to do
I get the ball
the next time
and just so happened
I magically spring my ankle
you know
magically
I magically
purposely sprang my ankle
because I knew this shit
wasn't for me
because I said
a nigga mug to ref like that
you know what I mean
I might be next
I might be next
so I said oh shit
I said man listen
no straight up
I always was smart
see this one thing
about you dudes out there
don't understand about me
people say
damn why
I said one thing about me
I was a I was a
a life I was a life for the prison
I was, you know, I was a dude that
you know, the killer and shit. There's some shit
go to hell. Soon as it get popping,
I get locked in. No, I was a relocate.
myself. That's who you was.
No, no, no. He just said, wait,
the nigger just mugged the ref.
Give me the ball.
I, listen.
I knew how to de-escalate the danger
when I seen it. But any time I was in view
of danger, okay, I was a
relocate. I knew how to relocate.
I knew what to do. But, he was
a bitch-ass nigger, Ross.
That's all he said.
I'm going to be straight up, though.
Because a lot of dudes
going to tell you, this is a lot of dudes
going to tell you.
They was tough.
You know dudes that come home
from jail, wearing the weight.
Everybody's tough.
They come on.
They got their masks on.
They got their masks on.
They've got no drugs in their body.
Ooh, I'm tough.
I'm big.
I wasn't that in jail.
I was in jail.
I was entertainment in jail.
All the dudes that I knew that was tough.
Hey.
So they used to have you
and just come in,
Nick, be at a cell tonight,
nigger, do some comedy.
No, it wasn't be that.
I just, I just, you know what it was?
I'm going to be straight up with you.
When a lot of dudes in prison saw me,
they seemed life.
I had to make them laugh to save my ass.
Yeah, that was a little part of it too.
But they seen the dude in jail that was giving life to the prison.
Like, because it was so dark in there.
It was dark as shit in jail.
And everybody was mad, it was gloomy.
And I was a dude that just wasn't mad about the situation.
I just was living a dream.
You know what I'm saying?
In jail?
Yeah, I was living a dream.
The dream was, I mean, you ain't getting no pussy.
The fucking dream is I'm getting out one day.
So I was just happy all the time
And I brought life to the environment
Where everybody is miserable and mad at shit
I was a dude that was running around
Hey yo what's up
I mean talking shit to the old heads
Only way you could bring life to that
That's the first time I heard that
You know why I'll let me tell you something
The only way you can bring life
To an environment
With how many how many
How many prisoners was in the jail
5,000 to 2,500 depends on what prison is
How do you bring life
To an environment
Of 5,000 niggers
who dick's been on the shelf.
I ain't say everybody.
You always say about sex.
5,000 nicks on the shelf.
Niggas horny is shit in there.
I brought life to the prison.
You want to, you know what?
I had niggas happy up there.
One thing I know about you?
I'm wild mode too.
You were dying to get taken advantage of.
You wanted to go to jail and get your energy taken.
You got a real fetish with jail and get in touch.
Doug, you're the one that sit here,
I'm the one that brought energy to the jail.
I'm the one that had the in-a-tappy.
like i made him smile i turned smiles upside down and all that old shit he wanted somebody to touch him
he wanted to get touched he didn't tell me he turned frowns upside down in the prison
come what the fuck off me man you let the fuck out of oh man you let's talk about him oh he into jail
fuck out hey listen man well listen it's my brother rash man you know
be been you know come me since high school of course he went to the legendary grads
I went to the legendary motherfucker I went to the legendary dives you want to fucking
farms
fucking locked
Play for Penn State
you mad because
you're gonna
know about you
and I want to say
that before we leave
because we didn't
get into this
how did you
was Gil big
in Philly on rap
I just want
I want your opinion
well when I was
coming up
yeah was he big
and Philly and rap
I'm just period
that you know of
yeah
see now he's fucking
biased
because Rashid is from
North Philly
soon
don't listen to what
he got to say
I just want to say this
I just want to say this
I was listening
figures all day
but Gil Gil
Gil Gil
I got to just put
this shit out there
for you guys
anybody
know about
him he was a fucking neighborhood
rapper and this is what he did
this dude talking about yeah I was
he quick to tell you I went on the world tour
you did a fucking world
neighborhood bar tour
you ain't going no fucking arenas
because all he did was make flyers
yeah I'm going to China I'm going
you went to fucking hole in the walls
in Chicago and New York
and D.C. and Baltimore all
he did was he was a fucking bar tour
he just went on tours and bars you keep
hype in your name yeah I did the showdown
Kansas City I did it so you're
They paid him in drinks.
I don't know what he did.
Sometimes drinks.
All right, Ross, you get it on that.
He do.
He do like 40s.
He do like these things.
What would you rather do?
What would you rather do?
A small bar tour?
You did a small port tour.
And try to hype it up like you was going to the cities.
Like all the city you know about you.
A prison tour.
Oh, for sure.
The bar tour.
Because he went from sale to sell.
The fuck out.
Ain't nobody going to sell to cell.
He went from cell to sell.
He was in there twerking and shit.
Fuck out.
He said, twirking.
He was all of the time.
My ass rap.
You was a neighborhood rap.
You had a neighborhood song.
There's like,
wow,
I heard you used to rap
with Gilly out there.
Yeah,
well, come in,
niggas.
Come in,
me, niggas.
Come in my cousin.
Ask Tarek.
You mean,
Tarek know about all the,
all the local rappers and everything,
man.
He moved from GILFranes.
I like he said,
Looper.
He was local.
I had the number two rap
sing on the country,
nigga,
you can't for 17 weeks in a row.
You can't be local
and do that.
Fuck, you're talking about.
The group did not you
It was a group
It was a group
You never had
All this shit that you had
Didn't get around
Didn't get from the South Philly
You live in North Philly
He lived in North Philly
That shit ain't make it down
In South Florida
Oh damn
He was a neighborhood rapper
Don't be a neighborhood rapper
Young Bulls
Don't fucking don't follow his league
He was a neighborhood rapper
He was doing shit at all
Block Party
He came on block parties
The show
Yeah I did a block party tour
You did a block party tour
It was Kansas and shit out there
You just keep going to place
Grabbing the mic
Put on the fly
Yeah I did the show
You keep adding all
Yeah I did 22 of the show
shows.
You do black party shows.
He do picnics in the park shows.
He's walking the picnics with a speaker for.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let me tell you something.
He's talking to all this shit because he ran karaoke night of the prison.
Don't nobody want to hear that shit.
Don't be no bum-ass rapper like him.
He's a bum-rapper.
Don't be a bum-ass rapper like me.
Don't get locked up like this nigga and be running karaoke night.
Of the prison up there, Stiggy, Stigickett.
I'm everyone.
He always hype his fucking join up.
It's all in me.
Nobody can.
Listen, none of y'all know his right.
Nobody was rapes.
They said you're something like this talking about,
I'm every woman.
It's all in me.
Anything you want that, baby.
You had a song, you had a song.
They said, they tell me, they were something to talk about, low, low, low.
You can say whatever you want.
You said whatever you want.
You went on a goddamn bar tour.
You're a bum rapper.
You don't know another song, young boys.
Do you know any of these poor songs?
No.
If somebody ain't know y'all, they would think y'all didn't like each other.
I don't like this man.
I don't like this.
He's a loser.
Listen, when anything I love.
When anything I love.
He ain't got to know.
He's a number one music podcast.
He's a word.
He's a fucking bum rapper.
He's a bum rapper.
And it's just like that.
