Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EP:99 "DAME TIME" FEATURING DAMIAN LILLARD

Episode Date: February 8, 2021

5x NBA All Star, Damian Lillard of the Portland Trailblazers joins Wallo and Gillie on this episode of Million Dollaz Worth of Game. They talk about Dame's college recruiting process, super teams, Dame's rivalries and more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mworthofgame

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Homies in my circle. It's the same crew. You still never win a week No, we can't lose Cold game, don't let it change you. Watch the people you keep in your company You can't come around if you ain't what if you ain't wanna This is big dogs, that is I'm a big dog

And I put that on my mama They say I'm outspoken, they be quiet, my mouth talking I've been out in the field like for real Not a drill, this ain't the route chosen But my appeal fit with the real fame without boasting Less of a thrill, more Navy shield Militant but rational, vigilant, I be in my feelings

It's hard ignoring my sentiment They save me to death book them I'm all about the Benjamin's hard hat And some timberless noble That's my synonym My rank is a higher up When they come to moral compass Sense of direction

Still elite when I drink in functions Henny on the rocks I be drinking tea at the luncheon Get it from my daddy I come with a little dysfunction Please excuse the temper and lack of the small talk I'm gonna make it clear So don't ask me the ballpark

No, they ain't really cutting Not from our cloth Taking solace and how they speak And know that they far off Polish be on my means Know how much I'm worth But I'm richer than what it seems Soul is pure gold

And a lot of millions in green The one that calls the scene Because I never be on the scene Always on base, bro Never in between They confused in a pickle The gamer do you cold They abuse and dismiss you

Family full of alas I'm defils and their issues They protect us watching for the ones That used and forget you On my mom in them That my cousin like we bang blue Bambloo Homies in my circle

It's the same crew Used to never win No, we can't lose. Cold game, don't let it change. Watch the people you're keeping your company. You can't come around if you ain't what if you're going to. This is big dogs. That is I'm a big dog.

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Who? What team? That's how I used to be. When I was in the joint, I remember I had this one game in the summer league where I come down, man. I had 49, right? I go to lay-up ball foul me.

I almost had 50 in, you know, in the jail. I'm telling me, I'm telling me the jail books. You know what I mean? This one I was playing. Then when I got recruited to Penn State, it was going to be, but I messed my ACL and my ACL, it's been tender ever since. But, you know, it's a back and forth with me.

You know what I mean? But we got my man, man, Dame Dollar right here, man. Hold on. Let me just tell you about what I tell you about introducing me, man. I got to put you, I'm just, I keep telling you, stop introducing me, bro. Why are you worrying about that, man? Because you, you're not no introducing.

I'm just hype right now. I'm just hype right now because he reminds me. Like, you guys stand coming up, Ray Island. That was me and Ray. He want to be in this corner. I'm just saying, but no, stop introducing me, bro. No, right now I'm hype because we got, we got similarities. All right.

What's your similarities, though? That's the fuck I want to know. What's the similarities here? They used to call me like Ray. He rap, you used to rap. Listen, a rat. You know what I mean? I'm a shooter.

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Come in, you know, I just want to know, did you have a chip on your shoulder when it came to coming out of high school and they knew the recruiting you had to go to Weber State? Like, did you have a chip? Like, was it something there? Like, y'all don't know who I am? Y'all don't know who I am?

You're playing with me? It wasn't really like, y'all don't know who I am. It was just, I felt disrespectful because a lot of people that I grew up with, they start getting recruited and they was in all these rankings and all these other shit. So I was like, I mean, some of these those I'm on the team with, some of these I go to school with, I grew up with, like, what?

I didn't see the separation that everybody else saw. And I'm playing in pro-ams and rec leagues and open gym and everything around the city with these same dudes in the same Oakland Athletic League. Was you cooking them dudes? I mean, I always been the same player. That's the crazy. That's the craziest thing. Like, I always have done the same thing. Like, people that I grew up with now, they're like, you play the same way.

Like, you do the same stuff. And I'm like, I don't change a whole lot. I just keep getting better at what I do. And it's been like that since I was younger. So I wasn't really looking at it like, y'all don't know who I am. It was just like, who are the people evaluating? Like, who making the decisions because, like, you, they basically picking who they wanted to be instead of looking, like, you know, having real evaluation. That was when you really realized that even in high school basketball, a lot of it is probably.

Exactly. I experienced that, like, early. Then, you know, you start going to these tournaments, and when you're moving around through the hotels, you're seeing the people who are writing and who ranking everybody and all that stuff. You're seeing them with certain teams. And on that team, the number one player,

they coaches with this person, and some teams got free gear, and they're wearing, you know, sponsor uniforms and all this. It's like, okay, like, we was on 4th Street selling seeds candy and magazines and all that. For our plane tickets and the rent vans and stuff like that. So it's like I started to see like, okay, it's deeper than just who working the hardest and who hooping. I was like, I was like, okay, it's deeper than that.

That's when life's show you that it be all about who you know and not which you know. Exactly, you know what I mean. Is that still in your mind when you get on that court any night? Is that still in your mind that whole journey coming up out of the town? I mean, I always carry it with me, but I don't, I'm not emotional about it. Like, yeah, I remember when I was in high school and they didn't know. Now I'm just like, I'm going to keep reminding y'all. But for those that don't know about the town, I'm not saying today, the town is Oakland.

Yeah, you know what I mean? The Bay Area, Oakland. Shout out to my man, Forty and anybody out there, you know, too short. You know what I mean, the whole, the whole crew, the whole crew, you know what I mean, Belahoeh, Ritchman, you know, the whole Yeh area. My man, Simbaugh out there. out here doing this thing right now I just had to you know for those that don't know what the town is and some of the snap recently too but it's like

you know you come you get up in the league right you're destroying stuff but one thing I like about you is you never forget the town you never forget the people you know you got this connection and you got this heart

this heart of gold when it comes to the people that come from where you come from and we ain't talking about come from where you come from as to geographical and just this name to just come from that struggle. You know, where did that come? How do that still live in you? I think it's like the simple fact that that's really what I come from.

You know, I think once you get, and I didn't realize this until I got to the league. Once you, I got to the NBA, and you just see how people operate, and you see how people speak and how they, what they think of certain situations. And I just listen. And I'm like, okay, like, that's not the thinking of a person that comes from what I come from. Or they wouldn't do this. or they wouldn't say this or you know what I'm saying so you pick up on those type of behaviors

and you're like okay you know what I'm saying you start to you just learn and you also realize that a lot of people say they're from something like I'm from but they show otherwise you know and I think what we see is a lot

of people become somebody and they say you know I'm from here or where they might be from a place but then they just they was just the best basketball player in that area like they didn't really grow up in the middle of the stuff that I grew up in the middle of so like I carry it with me because I actually was in the middle of all of these things like when I go home the like people know me as like what's up dang like we went to school together we caught the bus together

we didn't seen we didn't seen it all together so now that I'm in the league I'm just like I carry that with me because I really come from that like that's that's really who I am so I don't got to go out and try to prove it to nobody or I don't got to act a certain way or do shit to make people to try to convince people like people who know and that come from what I come from and who would know they're going to see it you know they're going to see it in you and that's I mean that's good enough man what one player in the league player or player what one player in the league always give you a hard time I mean I don't I don't think nobody always give me a hard time and that's that's that

That's just the reality. Like, some nights I'm going to play Steph, and he's going to get the best of me. But it ain't going to just be every time I play him, he's going to get the best of me. Same thing with Russ or CP or... One-on-one you, Kyle Reed. I'm taking myself in one-on-one birds, whoever. And I expect everybody to take their self. Let me ask you this question.

Who's that one or maybe two people or maybe three people in a league that... It ain't no person. food beef yeah but we beef on this court and tonight they got it down

tonight you're dying tonight I'm going to do everything in my power to cook your ass tonight

like every like oh we plan them tonight oh such as we playing I know you're going to be

guarding me I know you're going to be talking the hell of shit I'm going to cook your ass tonight I think the obvious one is Russ, and we, me and Russ is cool.

Like, we actually cool, but when we get on the- When y'all lead off the court, everything, it's back to a NBA brotherhood. But it's like, once we get on the court, I don't know what it is. Like, we just bump heads on the court. And I think part of that is, like, he comes after me because he know I'm going to be the one that's like, I'm not going nowhere. I'm coming right back at you. So I think it's more of a respect thing, but I would say Russ, number one.

Number two, I'd probably say Pat Beverly, because that started before he was even a starter. But the thing, Pat Beverly is not going to really come back at you like that. He's not going to give you 40. No, it's not him coming back at you. He just, he's going to challenge you. And it's like he's going to be physical. He's going to foul. He's going to talk.

He going to complain to the refs. And he's going to be there the whole game. He don't care. Does that get in my head? No, it don't get in my head. I just, it wake me up. anything like it make me even more on point when I'm like dealing with somebody that I know he like he said I know he ain't going to give me 40 but like he's just trying every little way to

make my life hard he trying to take me out of being who I am so it just put me on my toes a little bit and that started before he was a starter he was just like coming off the bench in Houston and they put him in he had picked me up full court elbow and like I don't get text but with him we got like three separate situations where we got double text because it's like from jump he had come in testing me like oh you got the wrong one and i'd be like no you got the wrong one like i'm the right one like i don't look the part but i fit the part that's how i feel like wherever it's at i'm willing to go there so but it him it's not personal with him either like it's literally on the court so you got to get cooked tonight just we it's going to be what it's

going to be so i would say russ pat biv um paul george we and him don't have no uh me and Paul George, this is the thing. We and him don't have no kind of back and forth history. Like the only history we have... No, no, no, we got that. The only history we have is when I hit the shot on them against O.K.C. And then when we all got into it in a bubble. But, I mean, to me, that ain't, that ain't nothing.

Like, I've only said the truth. I ain't said nothing other than the truth, so I don't... That ain't like no back and forth to me, at least. Yeah, but that... That... how did that walk off feel? I just want to, I just need to know. No, it was.

I don't think it's a walk-off shot in the history of basketball that was like that. Like you got Jordan, you got then you got Kobe emion leaded him,

and then you got Brian when he didn't really think it was going in, then he won in and he lost his mind. You know what I'm saying? You got some, you got Ray Allen in the corner but it's hit it from 40 feet and then

that she was gazing then your homie's jump all on you you still ain't smiled at it weren't your sister in the crowd or you like my sister was right there on the porch my brother yeah they was right there how did that feel no I felt good

that was like a that was just like it was a lot of back and forth shit in that series like we won the first two games and we went to OKC and then they beat us in game three they was dunking at the end of the game you know when you up and the game over like at the buzzer

PG dunked at the buzzer they was talking shit the whole game and we were saying our shit too like we was we was talking shit back like CJ probably the most trash talking player I'd never play with but Cid McCone? Yeah. You'd be talking crazy what? What?

Y'all hey y'all have no idea So they won game three, so it was like, and then after the game, it was a lot of back and forth through post-game press conferences. This person said this, this person said that, end of the game. Dennis Schroeder was like, you know, ain't no damn time today. There was a lot of, like, everybody was all in. So once we got to game five, we won game four, the next game in OK, C.

We get to game five. And at that point, it was like, they got to go. like we if we get them tonight this gonna hurt so really once we got to the end of the game and they was up like 15 in the fourth and we came back and once I saw we had the last shot I was like this gonna hurt like if we get them out tonight this gonna hurt so after I hit the shot it was like I just way it like did you mean to do it was that shit was like literally on the spot like I didn't even think of it you did justice yeah I just the look though you had on your face was get y'all asses oh everything that's exactly what I was thinking it was no it was that was like I usually I'm not moved left or right

usually when somebody talking shit or whatever happened I'd be like as long as it on turn physical like on something else like I'm usually not moved by but in that series I was like we have to win like they're talking crazy yeah it was like that like we gotta win

so who the top five shit talk is in the league like talk the most shit right now in today's time Draymond Green got to be on it and we just sawing me throwing C.J. McCollum on it because I didn't even know C.J. for sure on the list.

I didn't know he'd be talking phrasing. I don't, I really don't know because Russ. I just name three of Draymond, Russ and C.J. McCleman Russ C.J. And I just know them because you can see them talking about

you can see it. I can't see C. But I really don't. I really don't know, because I don't be listening. I swear to God. You zone out. You're going to go out. I don't be listening.

So how did you get Paul George and Russ in that series? Because they was directly talking to me. Like, we was, like, I remember at one point in game three at OKC, I'm dribbling the ball up. And Russ is dribbling the ball up and I'm guarding him. And we're literally talking shit to each other. Like, when he's bringing it up, I'm like, why you switch? Why you switch? And he like, there ain't nobody running something, something.

We literally going back and forth. So like, then I was in. engaged in it, but usually, like, somebody hit a shot on me, I'm going back to get the ball. I'm not, like, looking to see, like, who said something. I'm just like, oh, he made a shot. And usually that's when it takes place. But, like, I really don't know, because I don't be listening. Unless somebody come right in front of me and be like, or say something, I usually don't, I don't know.

Growing up, right, outside of the Bay Area, who did you listen to hip hop? Like, what is, you know, some stuff that people would say, damn, you was listening to that? They would be, like, shocked up. I mean, obviously, I ought to bear you. I had, that was right there. I was out of that. I was more like East Coast.

Like, I like East Coast, like, bars and, like, rapping, rapping. And I always, like, Big Pun. I like Biggie. Pock, my favorite all the time. He, East Coast and West Coast. Andre 3,000. Okay, Dre, 3. Juvie.

Like, Juvie was high. in Oakland like when I was going on fire um you know used to be uh what's the name rody like he used to your assistant work for uh juie on cash money back in the blunts and all this i know i know i know i know about gil you know you know he'd go get his drinks and snacks no he used to handle their writer he's for julie all right i mean i'm just saying that was your thing it's cool you don't know what's my name i really listen to a lot of like a lot of East Coast though. Okay. Yeah.

Basically like, uh, Wu? Like who? Woo. Wu Tang. Oh yeah, I fuck with Wu Tang. Okay. Now, when it's music, you're going into that studio. What is your process?

You write? Or you come in here? What did you do? No, I write. So usually what I do. He's pro for writing. He always, no, you got a right, you got a right, you got a right. I mean, everybody's like, I don't write, but I don't know what that means.

Like, is it a freestyle or you just like record? and you think of something why you're punching it when they say they don't write it's really that's really a lie like I don't write it down but I'm still doing the same process as if I'm right all you're doing is if I come up

with a line right whatever the line is right the truth is I don't feel y'all niggas I feel like shack I should kill y'all niggas all you doing is saying the line over and yeah oh yeah okay the truth is I don't feel y'all niggas I feel like shack

I should kill y'all niggas the true Fizz. I don't feel y'all niggas. I should kill y'all niggas. I keep the P, I keep the, and then you just add knowing to it. It's basically like writing. So you're writing it, but you're just remembering what you say in your head. It's not like, oh, I just go in the booth and I wrap the first thing and cut of my head and then I add, no, you're writing that shit. That's what I figured. It took you a hour to sit there and do the shit. You just didn't write the shit physically on paper because for me it's easier to remember

it in my mind than it is to write it on paper because as I'm writing it on paper the truth is I don't I get the I fuck up the flow of what I'm saying the shit in you know what I'm saying so me it's always been like that but to all the people I don't write

you're right I figured that's what they meant by I don't write right so I know ain't nobody just pre-styling and coming up with a hit but absolutely now on 2K 21 right who do you play with I don't play with nobody I play my career y'all be doing my career on the game

that's all I do I don't play against nobody none of that so my career basically you start off in high school you create a player you start off in high school and based on how well you play in high school like schools recruit you pick a college and you play 10 games in college and depending on how well you're doing college then that's how how you get picked in the draft

What? I ain't never heard of that. And then when you get picked, you come into the league and you're coming off the bench, and you're basically trying to work your way into the start lineup, and you basically trying to become a star. So it's like the whole process. I just enjoy that process. So that's the only thing I'm doing again.

I'm talking about before you was in, when you played 2K, before you was even in the league, you played, right? But I was playing the same shit. The only reason I played 2K is my career. Because I just enjoy that process of like, yeah, bro. Okay, I didn't know nothing about that. I got to make me a player.

See, you're going to be glued to it. You're going to be on the area. You're going to the park, though. I mean, on the new one, you've got to play in the park so you can get access to everything else. But before that, I play in the park sometimes. Like, he'd get me to play in the park, but I'd never do that shit by myself. Now, let's talk about that process because you just spoke real highly about the process. Like, basically, you enjoy the process.

There's a young cat out there. There's a bunch of them. Yeah. They live in North Philly, Harlem, Harlem, New Orleans, Zone 6, Compton, Oakland, wherever. They're all over the country. And they want to be you one day.

They want to be Dane. Tell them how to get there. I think the number one thing I would share with them is, for one, just to have character. Like be a solid person, work hard, care about yourself. I'm saying. That don't mean don't care about other people, but you got to take care of yourself. Be responsible for yourself. Be accountable for yourself. I think a lot of kids skip that stuff

because of, you know, they're looking at what other people doing. And I never followed, you know what I'm saying? I would just take bits and pieces like, all right, my brother went to junior college and he would have went to this school, but he didn't pass this class. My other cousin was good and hoop, but he didn't make the team because he was better than everybody, but he He was just selfish. He was hogging. So, like, I grew up around people that I just would always take shit from. Like, okay.

And I did it silently. Like, I never went to them like, oh, what happened? I just noticed it for myself. And I just applied it. Like, even with my dad, I watched my dad, like, you know, everybody respect him in every room he go into. He basically in charge. But I just watched his behavior. And I kind of took that.

And then it was like, okay. So basically all of those things made me like, okay, so. I got to be responsible for myself. I got to handle my business. I got to be a hard worker. I got to be a good person. I got to have compassion. I got to really genuinely care about people

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the weights. Right. When I say handling, handle your business, I mean that's stuff that you're not going to be praised for all the time. You know, the stuff that people are not always going to see. Like, for example, I get up every morning at 7. And I go lift, I box, I do conditioning. I leave there about 830, 835.

I go right on the court at 9. And then by like 10.30, I'm done. And I'm back at home, my son, just getting out to bed. my girl just getting out the bed so they don't really like they know that I'm getting up to go work out but they don't know the investment of

they don't know what I'm really doing every single day how many times I'm looking around like I'm in a 14,000 square foot mansion I got every car I want I got enough I'd have made enough money now to where I don't got to do nothing

like I can just wait to my contract up and I'm good like I don't got no issue my mom got a house my brother everybody straight but it's like I do this every day you know what I'm saying I handle my business every day. And by doing that, when stuff hit the fan or stuff don't work out, it ain't go all far down.

You know, it might be a step back or maybe two steps back, but all my shit ain't going to fall down because I wasn't living off of what I think everybody else see. I'm living my life off what I know I do every day. Like, when I'm rapping, I'm not just rapping, writing shit that I think everybody want to hear. I'm like, this is really what I think. This is really how I feel. This is really experiences for me. So, like you said, everybody's rich on Instagram. Everybody doing good.

Everybody is the realest person in the world. Everybody can fight. Everybody can do this. Everybody can do that. But when you live in a facade, like, it's going to come to the light that you lying eventually. Somebody going to find out something or you're going to leave a hole somewhere without covering your tracks. And it's going to come out. And then it's going to be like, oh, he was lying to us.

We don't believe nothing you ever told us. Then you, that's when it all falls down. down because your foundation wasn't shit and you wasn't really handling your business. So I make sure I handle my business because, like for example, two years ago, we, three seed in the Western Conference, we get swept in the first round by New Orleans. To everybody else, it was the end of the world. But I went on the podium after game four in New Orleans after we got swept. Our team coming in, they like, damn, you want to do the podium.

It's okay if you don't want to, tough night, whatever. I'm like, no, I'll get on the podium. and I went up there I said we lost to a better team it was our time to get our ass beat and I didn't play well enough I got to be better like it wasn't as hard for me to get up there and do that on TV because I know that it didn't happen because I didn't handle my business it was just my turn to go through some shit like but then the following year we did three seed again and we play an okay C we beat them 4-1 we just hit them 4-1 we just hit hit the shot he was just talking about score 50 walk off three come back beat Denver go to the

western conference finals like I believe in that type of shit like I handle my business behind closed doors whether people see it or not I'm the same person when I'm with all my cousins or if I was walking down the street by myself like I know that about myself so I'm I'm confident because of that so when shit happened it's like okay I handle my business but for people who don't who skip those steps and skip that type stuff, when shit go bad, it go bad. It's over for them. And I think that's what we see a lot. Like people come and go now more than any other time. And another thing, right, to all the youth out there, right? He made a point, and I want to elaborate on the point that he made. He said, once he made it, he got the 14,000 foot square foot house, he got all the

cars he got he got everything he could ever want it in life as far as materialistic life things but he never got complacent yeah he never started chilling because for certain people it's like okay i always wanted to get to this point but now once you get to this point it becomes about legacy. It becomes about okay what type of name am I going to leave out here? Right. You feel what I'm saying? Because now it's deeper than the 14,000

square foot mansion is deeper than all the cars, it's deeper than me being able to go into the Gucci, the whatever I want to go. Now it was about where I'm going to leave my name at as far as the

all-time greats. Am I right? No, you're right. all you youngans out there you got to he already had his mind that where he wanted

to go at with see a lot of times a lot of youngans once they get rich once they get the money once they okay I made it I'm done

I've accomplished what I wanted to accomplish because now I don't got a struggle no more and that's when you don't you don't get up and go to the gym

at 7 in the morning you don't because see that's something you got to want to do. Because you can be, I mean, I'm telling, man. Because guess what? Even if I don't go train like I'm supposed to, I can still score 24.

Yeah. I could still do 25, 24 for three, four more years. Yeah. Then eventually it's going to catch up to me, and I'm going to make my money, and I'm cool. But you really want to be great. So to all the youth out there, y'all got to determine whether you want to be great.

This has a guy that came from Weaver State, right? 11 points in his freshman year Imagine going to a lower tier Division I college

you're scoring 11 points in your first year your chances are going to the league they ain't that high but then he

come back his second year 19 right first team all conference right so it was the work that was put in

it was the work you put the work in You ain't got to worry about who watching because God watching. It's a reason why I keep telling you, Youngins, it's a reason why I've been able to be relevant for 20 plus years. Because no matter what I'm doing, he's not going to outwork me. No, you was only relevant like a neighborhood, like in the neighborhood rap scene.

It wasn't like, I'm just trying to figure. You keep talking about this relevancy stuff. You were only, 20 plus years. And the neighborhood singing bars, bars, little back block strip, speake-eas. You did a speak-easy tour. Not while working. You did a speak easy tour.

You did a speakeasy tour. You did a karaoke night off the prison. That was bad. That wasn't no speakeasy tour. You did a speakeasy tour. You did a bunch of winos around the country. You act like you keep putting out like, yeah, I did a world tour. But I got paid.

Yeah, you got some liquor. To your point, though. You did karaoke night for free. To his point, like, it was never about the money. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, of course I wanted to, like, my thing, I wanted to take care of my family.

better your life. So like as far as the money went, it was only for my family to like have shit. It was never like, well, I want to add it. Like I wasn't even in the cars until I got money and I started like, I literally was about to get my first apartment. I drive into the apartment complex and Nate Robinson lived in the apartment complex in Oakland. And I see his, I see his, he had a pan of mirror like parked under the, uh, an underground garage and I seen it. I told my agent I'm like, what's that? I didn't even know what it was. He was like, oh, that's that new Porsche or whatever.

I was like, that's the car I'm going to buy. And then I was in China. Two years later, I see an all-white, Bentley GT, hard top, black wheels, blacked out tent, red interior. I walked up to the window and I looked in. I seen the red interior. I was like, I'm about to get one of those. I came home, so it was like, it was never about the money. It was like, and like, you say legacy.

And for me, like, to begin what it was like, man, I'm going to be, I'm going to come from Weber. They're going to remember me. Like, I got drafted. I went to the league. I did rookie of the year. I did all this. But I didn't even took a step further now because back to what we just talked about, the politics. Like, my legacy as a basketball player might be limited to what they wanted to be.

Like, even now, I didn't average 27, been the three-seat, and I'm not even in the MVP finals. So what do you think about super teams? Because that's what I wanted to ask you because, you know, somebody like you, you were, you've been bawling and you're going up against what everybody knows is stacked decks, right? I mean, they say champions is how they judge the players now. That is. I mean, I think that's why you see a lot of players jumping teams and teaming up with other players because the pressure of the media and like the standard that they putting out there like, oh, this person don't got a ring and like how they talk crazy to Charles Barkley on TV. like he ain't Charles Barkley because he didn't win the ring so like it's forcing dudes to be like well I'm gonna go play with this person or if I get with this person but to me like if that's what

they want to do then I'm I don't got no problem with it like just whatever but for me personally that's just not something I can do like I'd rather go out there and put my best foot forward and lose before I do that because I know I can win if I do that like we're supposed to win if we all get on the same team and we're the best players like we're supposed to win so you You would never do it. I would never do that. I mean, no, I don't control. Like, if the team decided to trade me somewhere and I, you know what I'm saying, I can't control

that, but it ain't for me to just be like, all right, I want to go fine. So you can't, you can't picture you in the summertime, like, yo, such and such and such and such and such, you know, Toronto got a bunch of money over and all three of us go there. See, I would be like, you know, if it's a player that I feel like it helped our team, I'd be like, you should come to Portland. You know what I'm saying? I would run it by him like that, but I'm not about to click up like,

all right, to where it's damn near a guaranteed win. So it's like, that just, that just ain't for me. You know what I'm saying? So, and then I also don't play to the pressure of the media. Like, I know the power of me being me in who I am. And I prefer that over like, oh, he ain't win a ring yet, and he ain't did this. Like, so what?

You're not judging running the ring for your best, no. Because what I was. saying before we start talking about this like my legacy is going to go as far as they want it to go and i realize that like people say you know this person like i get love i get credit for what i do whatever but like i know that it's going to be the impact that i can have on like kids coming behind me and people who don't get to to see the places i've seen but they share the same experiences and background as me like i know the impact i could have on them because i really lived it Like, I really came from the, I really came from the neighborhood and to a small school and unknown,

and I've made it to, like, the highest level, like, in this game. I've made it there. So, like, I can give it to people on a level that's more real than probably anybody else can. Like, I really don't know. Like, Demar de Rosen, I know him, and I know he's really one of those people that can do that. but I don't know how many people get to this level in sports or whatever it might be

that really has ties to people that really need it like we do everybody might say they do but they really don't and I know I do so I've looked past like oh what my legacy is going to be like bro I get up and I'm train every day I'm not scared of nobody

like every my team if you go look at availability and who's available to play every night, go look at up the percentage. You're going to see me out there over 95% of the time. In my career, I'm out there. Road ankle, whatever. If it ain't broke, I'm out there. I'm a soldier with my team.

When we lose, I don't throw nobody under the bus. When we win, I don't say it's because of me. When they're saying, oh, the coach, I don't say nothing about none of that. I just show up and do my job, and I didn't get to the level that I'm on by just being solid and doing stuff the way that I know I'm supposed to do it. And then now I'm starting to do the, other stuff that I really care about, the legacy program that I'm doing through Adidas, the intern programs, the, all the different stuff that I'm doing, even in my neighborhood

and with my family, like, investing in people's stuff to where it's going to put them in a better position. Like, that's what my legacy is. I'm going to still put my best foot forward. I'm going to still compete and try to win a championship. Like, I feel like I'm going to win a championship. But if it don't happen, that ain't the end-all, be-all for me. Because, like, the media ain't, they're not going to ever make me sweat by saying, oh, well, he's not a winner. Like, a lot of y'all motherfuckers ain't winner at nothing, but criticizing people. So, like, I just feel like it's, I'm not going to give in to the pressure of that. You know what I'm saying?

Like, they're going to, if they hear this interview, they're going to be like, well, he ain't going to win, you know, they're going to have something to say about it, but. Well, to me, they won't understand. You know, to me, when you come from the inner cities, you already want. And you feel what I'm saying, and you're successful at anything in life. You've already won. You feel what I'm saying? And I don't know how many people made it to the league from Weaver State.

I don't know how many people made it to the Hall of Fame from Weaver State. But I knew you going to, you did both of them. So you feel what I'm saying? No doubt. So for me, it's like I understand what you're saying when you say, you know, people, get the pressure of, you know, the media put on them and, and most of the time, the people who got the loudest mouth in the media, be dudes like Stephen A. Smith, man, was a half-ass ball player, man. No disrespect, but, like, he would have gave you 55 in middle school. So,

like... Sound like my game. Come on, bro. Shit like, that'd be crazy. It'd be crazy, man It'd be crazy to sit back and see that Like, you guys aren't even

athletic, like, y'all A lot of you guys don't even got an athletic bone in your body And y'all sitting here criticizing one of the fastest Best shooting, most talented, athletic, people on the planet earth

And I'm not just saying as far as you, I'm saying it's, you know, they do it to everybody And it'd be like And this is what we do It's a part of the game that we play. So I'm not mad that they, like, you're going to get criticized in anything. Like, people listen to albums and get right on Twitter and start critiquing it.

Like, oh, this album week, or I like two songs or whatever. Like, you're going to get criticism in whatever world you live in. But I'm just speaking on, like, when they talk about what our legacy is going to be or, like, what we should do. And this person should do that. but it's like it's easy for anybody to try to give direction or say what somebody should do when they it's empty consequences for them I could be like man you know what you should you should move to Oakland right like I don't know what that mean for you right but it's easy for me to say

because my ass going to be living where I live in they sit on they sit on TV all day Damien living needs to get out of here he needs to go to he needs to and it's like like for example like when I was in the bubble me and Skip Baylor's had a back and forth right And he was like I want you to come on my show and we can talk about it and I'm like I'm not going to come on the show because then I'm doing I'm doing you a favor because people want to

see us go back and forth when like I'm saying to you what I really feel and what I mean. You're trying to get ratings. You worried about the show. So then like it was back and forth. I just kind of let it go like I'm not about to go back and forth with you like I don't even know you like that whatever

like we had our back and forth that was that. So then something else came up where they asked me something and I just said what I thought and somebody sent me a clip where he was like man he's on here uh you know the problem with game is you know he talks like he talks like he's LeBron and he's not LeBron and I'm like see that's part of the problem right there is you think I got to be arguably the greatest player all the time to be able to say something like what does that say you know what I'm saying and it's like so that's like okay because

he's a little bit better player than me he could say what he wants but I don't have no wood you don't got the right to say that and it's like I don't speak from a place of I don't when I speak I don't speak comfortably

because I feel like I'm one of the best players I speak because I'm one of the most solid people I know who I am exactly so it has nothing to do but the fact I could be the 12th player or off the bench and I want to see something I want to see something

that's important to guys out there that's trying to do their thing they're trying to figure it out and we got to talk about making it and what making it really is you know how many people that was in dame high school that's dead that died in the streets of the town you know how many people that's in the penitentiary right now since he was in high school that was even you know in a gang or really didn't know they self just like i didn't you know how many people so I just believe like a lot of people you can't speak for people coming from that bottle a lot of people don't your voice is not qualified or you don't have the credentials of that struggle to speak for people that come up out of that and to try to put this stuff on them in a lot of times people be remixing stuff and we talk about sports we talk about sports but we can't talk about somebody having a voice and they speak in their opinion they ain't got nothing to do with this if you want to critique my game you could do that but when we're talking about winning and we're talking about winning coming from the inner cities of America If you can make it out and you can reach back,

you won more than any champion, any award that you can win. That's the win when you can reach back and give life to people that don't see life, to people that think tomorrow's not coming. I'm talking about, we're talking about the guy that reached back to people that the world forgot about. There's a big community of people out here that the world totally forgot about that's not being counted. That's not, I'm telling me, you can't even see. They're invisible.

He reached back to people that's invisible to where as though the world made them feel as though they're visible where they can't even see these self no more when they look in the mirror and he reached back and gave to them that's championship shit like we can talk about all the trophy

we can talk about all the accolades that's cool but he's doing real stuff so at the end of the day if you out there you're doing real stuff that's all that matter and when you come from the ghetto when you're able to make it to a certain place and you ain't dead you ain't in prison you ain't strung out on drugs you're doing something major stuff

You're taking care of your mama, you take care of your sisters, you provide for your family, your kids didn't grow up like you grew up. That's the true win. You out here making moves with Adida 2K1, Toyota, how that go? Toyota. The dealership? Yeah. I just partnered in a Toyota dealership. That's major.

And the reason I say that I drive. People going to buy cars forever. That was major. Like, handling your business, you know, just how do you partner with certain people? How do you, because you know you got a deed You got 2K, you got, you got, and all other stuff that's going on. You know, how did you, do you have people that handle that for you? Do you, how did that come about?

I mean, I got representation, but they, they know that I turn down the money fast. Like, because it, like I said, it ain't about the money. A lot of my partners, like, their initiatives and the stuff that they have planned and whatever they want to push, it got to be in line with who I am. If it's not, then why would we be partners? So that's like the. thing for me. So Adidas, like, even when you look at all my shoes, every color way is telling the story. Like, it's something, it's a story being told through every color way of the

shoe. That was one of my things. Like, you anybody just give me some random story or just be telling anything, like, it's going to mean something. And I want to be a part of it. You're a part of the whole, you sit there with the designer and go right now. We meet every couple weeks, every shoe, every color. And Adidas is in Portland. So I drive, they be like, dang, what you're doing? I'd be like, I'm coming. I just drive. Because, like, Like a lot of people, like we were saying before, like they get, you pay them a bunch of money, and then they put whatever product, and not just Adidas, I'm saying whatever company, they'll put whatever product out with your name on it.

And a lot of times people just kind of like, man, they paid me this, so they paid me that. But like, is whatever being put out worth your name. Exactly, you got to stand on it. And then aside from that, I think, so like that's kind of like what it is for me, just making sure that they in line with who I am and the way I see. And then something like the dealership is just like, you know, you got to, when your, when your character is strong and you live in off like principle and you stand for something, you're able to leverage your name instead of, you know, sometimes you can leverage your name. You can get involved with stuff because people want to be connected to us, you know what I'm saying? So because of who I am, not because of, well, obviously partially because of who I am as a basketball player, but.

when I put who I am as a person with that, then I'm able to get involved with stuff and you know, it don't cost me nothing. You know what I'm saying? It's not like they're saying, well, we want you to put in a million dollars or two million dollars or all this. Like, sometimes you can just bring your name to stuff and people

will pull you in rooms and you can invest in as far as you want, you know, whatever dollar amount you want. But at the very least, I'm in here just with my name because they want, they want this affiliation because they know it's going to be strong. So, it's, It's either we in line and, you know, whatever the contract is,

or it's just leveraging your name. But if your name is all over the place, and you're just doing anything and everything, and you're getting caught up here doing this and doing that, and nobody want to be tied to that. So, I mean, I didn't set myself up to where, like, I'm at the point where now I'm bringing my... Yeah, I'm bringing my family in on stuff.

You put them in the handle, okay. So earlier you mentioned about that, you know, the wife, the kid, what's the hardest part about being in the league and being married or being in a relationship and having kids? What's the worst part? I think the worst thing is, like, it's an ongoing battle with just, like, being disciplined. Because, like, none of us is perfect, you know what I'm saying?

We all got flaws. And you don't really... not a lot of times in life you get to the point where you just got access to damn near everything that you could desire you know what I'm saying whether that's like all right I want to fly to Maldives or I want to go to a party in LA and there you know what I'm saying every famous woman you could think of is going to be there like you just got access to everything that could get you in trouble or could get you in some shit like everything is there you know what I'm saying like and I didn't have my days but like like like it's ongoing like it never stopped so it's almost like man you got to choose like do you want to be do you want to be i just keep laughing because i'm thinking like how many bitches will be on his man if he made that walk all three like but i'm saying like you could even look at it like damn all right i came in the league i was 21 do i want to play 17 18 years in the league and i walk away and i didn't live at all or do i just continue to be myself and like

take silence in the fact that I did what I was supposed to do all my family is in place my kids happy my girl happy like which route do you go you know what I'm saying or do you have people in your ear like man what you got to do is you can do this but you got to have

this and do that and do that like where do you go was it when you was going to these cities when you first came in the game was it women that just kept popping up just stalking you stalking the players down? No it was it wasn't like when I first got in the league everybody was making it seem Like every city you go to, it's going to be a hundred women in the lobby.

You know what I'm saying? Just waiting. It wasn't like that. It's easy to put yourself in rooms and places where it's at. And I don't mean, like, you're searching for it. You just got to be with the right person or in the right city and just want to eat. Or, I mean, it ain't hard to be in the right place at the wrong time or the wrong place, should I say. But it's not hard at all.

But then what you see is, like, over time, when, you know, you start to become well-known, it's damn near impossible to put yourself out of reach. And then do you notice that you, a lot of times you see a lot of the same... The same people, like, the same places. Like, I'm a creature, like, habit. So, like, when I go to certain places, I just like what I like. I'll go eat here. I go eat there.

And, you know, you're seeing the same people. then you've seen some people that's like when you see them you've seen them so many times that they speak to you like they really know you right what's up baby and you got to think in your head like damn I don't even know this new name like that I really don't but I feel

so many times that I understand why he think we know each other but I don't even know his name so it's like I don't know man it's scary man that's why I don't like I just told him I live in Portland in the summer because I'm like man you know what the season over I'm just gonna stay here it's real calm here

Yeah, it's just chill. It ain't too much going on, you know what I'm saying? So to me, that's the best solution. It don't seem like there's nothing going on out of it. Was that the best solution when you first got to the league? I mean, when I first got to the league, I was like, I was curious. So I was like trying to, like, everybody's like me and everybody, come to L.A., come do the, you know what I'm saying, come kick it. So I go some of my older teammates to L.A. kick it.

Then you had to get it out your system, spend a little money, fly around. See, but that's just what. what I never did. You never, like... You never bawled out? Like, I mean, in what way? Like, okay. Like, people are laughing at me

because I'm... I spend money on what I want to spend money on, but I'm not just like... Like throwing it out. I don't do street clubs. Okay. You coming from, you know, you come from the inner cities of Oakland.

Okay, now you got money. Oh, we're flying to Miami. All right, I'm out. Oh, yeah, I'll do some random. Like, I'll tell all my cousins. So you're PJ or you riding commercial? No, I fly a private now. But like now, it's to the point where I, like, what I did do when I was younger, I'd be like,

somebody will take me to a party. Like, my second year, I hit the shot against the Rockets, and I got, I was nominated for Espy. So I went my brother and one of my best friends to the Espy. So we lead the Espies, go to the after party, we leave there, go to the club, then we lead there, went to, Drake had a party at a house in Calabasas or something crazy like that. And that was like my first time in L.A. where I was just, I was just, I was just, seeing everybody, you know what I'm saying? Like, people that I had never met. I'm just seeing this person, seeing that person. I'm just like, damn, like, this could be this easy to just be around all this. Like, I was just like, I was puzzled. So then the next time I was about to go, I'm hitting my cousin, like, y'all trying to go to L.A. So now I'm going to L.A. with eight of my cousins, and we're just kicking it. But it was, we was never on wild time. Like, we was never just. To this day, we don't just be on, we'll go to Cabo with just us, you know what I'm saying, and just kick it, but it was never, we was never on that, you know, still to this day. How do you, how do you feel about real estate?

What about it? Like, is you, you invest? Yeah, I invest in real estate, but I think it's something that you can lose control of easy, so I don't just go all in. When you say, lose control, what you mean? I mean, like, if you having properties all over the place before anything kick off with any of them, you could just be holding the, holding on the real estate. And it might have some value, but people might not be able to afford to buy it from you, or you might not be able to build nothing on it, or have nobody lease it. It's a lot of moving parts to, you know, to own in real estate.

So if you look at, like, Antoine Walker's situation, you know, he came and spoke to our team. And basically he had a play for the Celtics. Yeah. We had the same type. You remember they used to see me and him had the same type thing. But basically, that's what they said. He had a situation where he bought up a bunch of real estate. Chicago like he had a bunch of different things on this shit load of money it was a bunch of money

like millions and millions of dollars but he had a bunch of projects going on and it was like yeah everybody was saying get into real estate and he had all this stuff going on and when you do this you need somebody to manage all these properties somebody to be in control of it because we're not going to have time to do that and I have issues with putting people in charge of shit that I'm responsible for so that's another reason why I keep real estate to a level that I can oversee and that I can control, which is why I'm not about to just go crazy or I wouldn't, at least. And basically, you know, the person that was managing some of his properties started doing little side deals and stopped taking, he basically wasn't handling his business and doing what

was supposed to be done, but it was on his dime. So it ended up hurting him in the loan run and he's losing properties and, you know, before you know it, he's the one that got to pay up. So I know you had heard of Rona proof then. Heard of what? Rona proof. What's that? I love people asking me with Rona proof. It's a real estate strategy. So a lot of people think real estate like you do, the traditional buying a whole strategy where you got to manage the property. Well, it's a strategy called wholesale and basically where we just middleman deals. So I go find a homeowner that needs to sell this property. It might be a distressed property. As I was actually riding down the street, I look at a couple that I'm going to go look at as far as opportunities. But what you do is you find the homeowner that's actually trying to get rid of a property.

And then you middlemaned the homeowner and the actual cash buyer, so you don't even have to, you come, it's almost like a broker or a middleman of real estate deal. So now you, you avoid it and have to put that money in the deal. You're getting the cut of the deal. I mean, I had the experience with that, like, during the pandemic, but it was my mom's house. So my mom has a nice, like, I bought my mom a nice house. So basically, I ran into one of those people that going around dropping notes at the gates and doing all that, like, hey, we want to buy your house. house but then they try to lowball you they want you to they want to buy your house for cheap that's a strategy yeah exactly but i mean nobody's stupid oh yeah so i can afford to hold on to my

properties i just don't want to be buying a bunch of them yeah i mean i think with that is just um you know i'm not about to sell you a property that's worth for a million for right one point eight you think i can't afford to keep it because it was like so that's what a lot of people like during the pandemic right you got a lot of people that were losing properties because they couldn't afford it that's how they get them now right and that and that's what happens so i teach people like who don't have the means to go out here and get the real estate license they might have a bad background or whatever another way to be able to make money legit and that that was you know you find the properties right now that the reality is the bank going to take it back anyway

so so a lot of people are like well this person the middle man he's trying to you know come up but the reality is the bank is going to take this property back so instead of just letting somebody take a complete loss, now you can at least let them get paid on the way out. So it's a great way for people to get into the game and start flipping real estate contracts. That is what he do. He teaches people.

Yeah, I did. Money with no money. You heard what Mazzi said, when they asked me where I'm from, I'll always be precise. And if I middle man to play, then I'm going to tweak the price. That's what I always think. Middleman always trying to tweak the price. Hey, that's my guy, too.

Shout to Mazzi. Like, 2020, been crazy. Rone-approved, Doc. for anybody that's interested in getting on that's crazy yeah so so so so so basically look what I did people used to think that you had to physically go to the property to be able to do the deal I'm teaching people how to do it from a computer at home so now during the pandemic where people is is trying to figure out ways to make money I don't help people literally watching this show make over

$1.4 million during the pandemic so so people in the hood no other no other way right uh-huh that's the thing A lot of people would be thinking, like, hey, I got to go to the house. I mean, I got people literally sitting at a keyboard. 15,000, 20,000, 40,000. All on my IG feed, 5,000, 10,000. But I made 7,000, I made 20,000. And what's crazy is that it started to provide people that came out the hood with no opportunity now ways to make money

and don't have to go expose their stuff. And that's what was the most important to me because I wanted to make that impact. They didn't expose themselves after the pandemic making money on a computer like that. Yep. And that was cool, man. That was dope. Well, man, Dane, we want to appreciate you, man. Hey, can I ask Dane one question? Can me, you've been going back and forth about this shit, man. And I want to know what Dane think about this shit,

because he actually came from a small school. Because you think you know every fucking thing basketball. He'd be on point, though. But no, no, no, no, Dane. Hold on, Dan. So me and Gilben doing this bullshit, going back and forth. He's like, oh, you giving yourself the curse if you go to a black HBCU. He didn't say that.

Not a curse, not a curse, but it. You basically eliminating your chances of being a top five pick. So Dame Lillet, coming out of high school right now, if you could, would you go to the HBCU? I mean, me personally, I wouldn't because I wasn't, I needed to be in the best situation possible. Like, if I was a top, if I was a top 10 player in the country in high school, and I really felt it in my heart that, like, this is what I want to do, then I would do it. But if I'm somebody that's just like, a lot of these kids, man, they don't have a mind that they own. They got managers. They got people telling them with PR stunts and do this and you should do that or whatever.

But if it's not in their heart to really do this and go through with it, like, just go to wherever you're going to go. So you said you go to Kentucky instead of you wouldn't rock. Well, I don't think it really, I don't think it really strike a court with a lot of them. Like, I don't think they really care that much to go to an HBCU. Like, some of them might commit to one. and then just go to the G League or whatever, but I feel like if I was a top player, he's going to Duke, Michigan, Kentucky, Carolina.

He's going to play on TV every Saturday at 12 or 3 or 6. No, I think. He's going to be first on the highlights on ESPN. I think if you go to, if you're a top player, if you're a top player, like if you're number one, number two, number three in high school, whatever, If you go to a HBCU, them cameras are going to follow you because it's just different now. They're going to follow you.

And they follow Tom Maker. He had 11 points, 8 rebounds, and 5 turnovers, and he lost by 20 to Belmont. You see why you don't go to Howard? Because you know why? You go to Kentucky and you have 11 points and 8 rebounds. You get drafted in the first round. You know why?

Because he couldn't score with so many points. They got five All-Americans on the court. You go to Howard in your score 11 points, eight rebounds. You might be in the G League next year, all right? I'm just going to tell you that. They're going to be more critical because they're going to expect you to dominate at that level. They're going to expect you to do so much more because they like, first of all, you're a five-star athlete, you're playing against two-star athletes. You had a, wait, hold on that guy just dunked on you.

Wait, that two-star center that goes to Belmont just dunked on you. It ain't fair, but it's a sacrifice. Right. Like he's saying, if you go to Kentucky, you plan with the best players, so they automatically expecting your numbers to be average. Right. And you also plan with the best players, so y'all probably going to be winning, and they're going to just be like, they're going to view you the same as they viewed you coming out of high school.

Right. I get it, right? But we know what everybody's doing right now. Everybody's like pro-black. Let's move for the culture. Well, if you really like that, then go to an HBCU. But I think when you go, if you go to a HBCU for the wrong reasons, you're going to go there and underperform.

Because you're going to go there and you're going to be like, it's just going to be different for you. My whole thing is, if I'm a five-star athlete, right, this is not no personal shit. This is a business decision, man. I'm the top tier of athletes, man. I have a chance to go and make millions of dollars, man. Okay, black lives matter. Guess what black lives will really matter after I make it to the league and make these millions and change a couple black lives in the hood, real lives. me going to this HBCU and they put me, I got a, oh, I'm going to have to average 40 points, 20 rebounds,

seven blocks to be drafted in the top five, man. If I was going, if I was a point guard that was ranked in the top five coming out of high school, I would try to get the other players to come to a HBCU with me. That's what I told you. That's what I told you. But if they do that, hey, look, that's what I told you, bro. If they do that, that's what I told you. Everybody asks, and it'll be.

That's what I said. You see you got to have all of them. That's what I was telling you, right? Okay. But this is what I'm trying to tell you. We walk you in to Howard University, right? We walk you through the locker rooms, right? We get you to the stadium.

We hold 6,200. Okay. Now they get you to Kentucky. They got a hundred million dollar facility. As you walking through, they got all the strength and conditioning team there. They got everybody. How you doing, Mike? We've been waiting for you, baby.

They bring you in. They show you, forget, they ain't going to, they only got to go back in time. They just going to show you. Just the last 15 years, we sent all of those players to the NBA. Look at that, dude. Look at that. We're just a, we're a machine for NBA players. That's what happened when they were for cool me for Penn State.

Hold on. So it was like, then they walk you out into the stadium. I went to Penn State. They like this, 26,000 screaming Kentucky fans. They might have the fans there for you. Might have the fans already in the building just for you. Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, you're not going to Howard.

You're like, we're outside of it. See, he don't know the game. When they was recruiting me from Penn State, they'd see me on campus. You know what I mean? You know how I mean women they had in my room waiting for me in the dorm room? It's crazy. When I got to Weaver, it was like, I always, I was like, all right, I got the best relationship with this staff. I know it's a lower level school.

Like, bigger schools tried to later, they was like, well, we're waiting on this guy or this guy, you know, they didn't really know. So I get on my visit to Weber, and the first place I go from the hotel is to the arena. And I'm like, this is a small school, a mid-major school, but they got a real arena in here. Like it was a real Now we played in a real arena So once I seen that Like I was like

I'm coming here Like that was it for me So it was like I really wasn't looking for nothing fancy But it was something like that Where I was like damn Yeah this is it When he got near the evening

He was like They see how many Yeah for real Can we stay's not that bad I can make it happy here Right That's all I'm saying bro It's like

Is it the thing And then let's be for real You know, Kentucky is like, give you your mom that. What's wrong with you? I don't want to be the wild way. What you're talking about? Texas. You know, you're all tired of living in a hood.

Wait, hold on. Wait, this is keys to a bend. You dropped the keys. I didn't give that to you. But, Coach, you dropped the keys to the bank. What keys? I didn't get them keys to November. That's what you're talking about?

I was number 77. You're talking about that business. They got your mom's name on it, which is in your mom's name. I don't know nothing about them keys. You know what they're saying? At Howard, even your lunch, your feet of the week.

It's your pedium to eat for something different, man. I'm just saying. Especially if you got one of the bored dog uncles or dads, you really get in the back. Oh, no, because your dad going to come in there. Well, Florida State was calling. Come here, Dad. Let me talk.

You drop the brown paper A bag It's a bag of money That comes from the grocery I think it was yours It's in your trunk Man Come on man

That's what I'm telling That's like come on man Here they just gave Zion That money man You know It's crazy They're crazy Dave really had to work

For every dime Dave I ain't get a penny They had to work for every now Dave was that Weber stayed starving putting up 40s 34.

I'm going to tell you how about a book my school was. So I went, I go my visit, I come back, they come visit me in Oakland. They do an in-home visit. And when I was on my visit, they teamed shoes that they had. I was like, man, I won some of those. They was like, all right, you know. They was like, all right, you know, but, you know, it's against the rules, whatever, whatever, but we'll see what we can do.

So they came to Oakland, and I committed to them. And they, I literally bought my, uh, the team shoes they had I paid for them like after I committed to them I paid them for the shoe because they couldn't just give me the shoe like

oh they were hurting like them small schools don't play that shit man don't play that they like you ain't all them infractions and all that no no because you know what

let Howard had some infractions the whole basketball program is over and three years is done that's what I'm trying to tell you Kentucky they shut out

they already struggling to fund the program That's what I'm saying So you know what I mean Thank you for bringing that up But dame man We appreciate you for coming through man For sure

Yeah I mean I got to get you on the court Man touch your game out man I tried to touch you I wanted to go to the boxing gym with him I called him I said I want to go to the boxing gym I want to go to the court

I want to go to the boxing gym I want to do both of them But he had already did it before I touched him So he had an excuse for what I touched that You're not a game big Yeah I mean but we appreciate you for tapping in man We didn't even talk boxing or nothing Man I don't have to come back on

No no No, we got, I got a cut, though. Yeah, I know. Oh, all right. Well, hold on. Who the top five youngest boxers right now on the up and coming? Top five young boxers? Yes.

I got T.O. FEMA Lopez, boots. Devin Haney, Shakura Stevenson, Ryan Garcia, and David Benavides. That's a nice. That's a nice. Only when I don't agree with you is Ryan Garcia. Devin's going to beat him, right? I think Ryan Garcia is all hot.

Everybody think he's sweet. Everybody think he's sweet. You know why I think he's sweet? Because I see Ryan Garcia go one, two, and his head's right here. Stay right there. That joint don't move it. It ain't no one, two, nothing is nothing. It's just one two, taco shell.

Boom. Ooh, now give me that out, uh-huh. I just think. I just think with all of them, we just got to sit. Like, Tio Fima Lopez, the only one we didn't see in there with somebody that was like that. Right. So you can. Everybody else, I feel like they all, they all look good.

See, Tank what? You didn't say Tank. I mean, I mean. I think Tank is, like, a little further past that. You think he older. Take, like, 25, any? But Tank ain't fought nobody, though. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Tank, don't, no, no, no. If you consider him a young fighter, he in that group, too. No, I'm not taking away no talent from Tank. But, bro, Tank, he for Jose Padraza. I'll give him that. He beat the shit out of Padraza. Yes, he for Jose Padraza, he fought a washed-up Gambowa. Padraza, Gamboa.

Who he just beat? Leo Santa Cruz, that was a real fight. Oh, Leo Santa Cruz, all right. That's a real fight. But Leo Santa Cruz is a hundred and 26-pounder. That's true, but he's still, he looked perfectly fine at that weight. He's a hundred and 26-pounder. I mean, you can say the same shit for Loma.

Right, that's why I knew Loma Chinko wasn't going to beat Tiofino-Lopez, and then I bet on Tiofimo Lopez. You called that shit. You called that on him, too. I told you, I say he's not going to. I was shocked on that. But that ain't going to lie. That one shocked me. So, but.

If you consider a tank of young fighter, he definitely in that mix, too. I do consider Tank a young fighter. Well, he in that, too. I would definitely say, change. Who's the best young fighter out right now? You got to limit it to one right now before you get out of it. To one? The best young fighter right now.

I don't think you really know. No, you got to limit it to one. You got one. I'm going to say Geron Boots Ennis. Boots. I'm going to say he's. the best young fighter out right now and I'm gonna say if he four any

of the top wealth of weeds right now he'll white he'll white wash all of them I'm exclude Danny Garcia from Nick from Philly I'm not mad at you saying he the best young fighter like I think that's very much possible he ain't washing every 147

could he be could he possibly beat every 147 no he'll white watch that's fair I can't agree with that easy work I can't agree with that Who are getting problems? And I like them. Who are getting problems?

All the top five. Who? Bud Crawford, Errol Spence, Danny, Danny, Danny, because he's from Philly. We're not talking about that. All those top of those, Sean Porter, he got a real fight if he fight all of them. That don't mean he got a real fight, but he's going to get him out of here. That's what I'm telling you. We don't know that.

No, no, no. I'm just telling you. He's going whitewash him. I don't agree with that. Whitewash is eight rounds or four rounds. nine rounds the three rounds he's going whitewash him I mean you're talking to a fan of here so I'm

I'm just telling you what I really think I don't think he's washing all them dudes he got a real fight could he beat him maybe like no no no ain't no maybe he can beat he can beat Errol Spence Terrence Crawford You're right he can beat him

Sean Porter No he will if they ever give my opportunity Terence Crawford Earl Spence Sean Porter Keith Thurham manny pack yow he'll punch manny pack yow into a coma man manny pack yow is little his shit he like five six man that boy is five foot eleven he is a monster and his

defense he me i'm a defensive fighter first i remember when it's pop at 10 years old show we don't weird mouthpieces we don't get hit i say now because that's how me and his pop came on because we did more shorts yeah what you mean what you mean we did more short first of all the It wasn't even a boxing match Lou with the dead eye Jim Clayton That wasn't no martial show Wham! He goes straight to the ground

and damn they're up under a car Dane Like he would like the mechanic That wasn't in the gym They don't count That don't count. That was the only time you ever got to On my record

On my record That don't count That was just an L regular neighborhood So we got Dave Listen For you Errol Spencer Danny Garcia Danny Garcia

Danny Garcia I got Spence Put a little friendly wager on it It's whatever we want to do See what you got to What we got to make clear is I like Danny Oh all right I just think Spence gonna win this fight

Okay well well unfortunately This episode will come out after the Spence And Danny Garcia fight So we'll be able to see who knew what they was talking about Who was really the boxing But you said he's going to put him in sleep. I said he going to, yeah, I said he's going to stop Errol Spence. We can bet on that.

No, no, no, no. I'm betting Danny Garcia wit. I'm not going to stop it. Like, you're going to sit me off. I bet you want to win. Yeah. I got, I bet money on Spence. What you want to bet?

Whatever you want to bet. Rob, B, I'm not testing your pockets. I know you ain't. I'm just saying whatever you want to bet. Like, I'm not testing your pockets. I don't get it. No, I don't get it to that. Oh, I ain't tested you.

I'm just saying, you know, we can bet, friendly little 500 or something. Just some, just a, just a, oh, that good. That should look good with nobody right there. You know, you know, I tend to your window, stop playing. I wrestle. I wrestle. I wrestle. I wrestle.

Hey, man, appreciate you for tuning in there each and a week, man. Day, Dollar's Roofing game, logo Lillet, Dame, Dane, A.K. The A.K. the Assassin. Man, we appreciate you for coming through, brother. Me, me, me, me, me. Yeah, I mean. Wish you the best luck at the championship coming soon. I know it is.

We're going to speak it into existence. You might get it this year long as you don't play the Sixers in the finals, yeah. Man. It'll cook me shit out of the Sixers, man. Fuck out. Yeah, come on, man. You're a hater, man. And it's just like that.

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