Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 143: FEATURING DJ AKADEMIKS

Episode Date: December 6, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Right. Oh, my God, Jake, you made this? Right? Do I want to. Can you know to dance?
Starting point is 00:00:22 Of course, nigga. I got to see the bottle. Let's see the bottle. Alright, you better get your stack-ass, somebody. Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. Okay. Let's go, go, come on.
Starting point is 00:00:37 We'll be here on Shima and nigga sock. Come on. All these rap is acting like the pay. We know that he broke. Saying he the hottest in the city. It must be jokes. No verse me like Clarence and be rapping. We know he choked.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I got my own bitch, but I know for Shaw, I make ears deep throat. Before the pandemic, he wasn't nobody was on. He lay. Expey rapper. They ain't a job and more because he loved digging great. He don't know his role. He ain't a hustling, shooting. He ain't a way.
Starting point is 00:01:00 wrong move and he got subs out the game he acting tough like he was that dude they hit his burn all these niggas that's all that cap got you in the time don't do no dissing in these raps we don't speak or what's his name lalla sticks up in the crib we don't need alarms and we know that boy a pussy he don't mean no harm I ain't got a move i jop a bag he won't see them harm and your bitch want me sliding it like bcr I keep a tool like bob told my mama 15 I don't need no jobs all his ice keep me cold when it's hot and she won't suck the dick until I tell her stop it how this nigg is in the city Yeah, they show us love.
Starting point is 00:01:31 You be sliding with them blizzies in them tinted trucks. You detect the eeep the pussy and don't never fuck. And I'm the type to fuck off a perk don't never bust. Do the dash, drive the farm like it stolen. Way before I had this act, they knew I was the coldest. Don't you ever pull no gun off? You ain't really trying to blow it in no X me about no niggas. I don't be what I don't know him.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Bato! Bitch, you trap in peace. Hell of mud, I can pour a big act for weeks. Get them whack for the cheap by the rack of piece. I'm a rag. Like mac and cheese. Knack and cheese? This is a mac in jeans?
Starting point is 00:02:02 I swear, baby. Yeah, like a nice stand. Bitch, I'm a real nigga. When the kids leave? Drunk I hate the other day, I'm still leaving. He's still people. Went to the hood for the purse, I got bored with me. Shoot a goofy in his chest, took a shoulder with me.
Starting point is 00:02:22 All right, let's go. That's not an idea. That's not anything in Detroit. That's not a Philly shit you're doing right there. shit you do right there that's how we do it man listen man that was that detroit flow mac and cheese feature in vezzo and there's some more coming that's gonna keep stacking up but listen you're now tuned into me me me me me me me me million dollars worth a game yes err it's right get crazy here today's right get crazy in this motherfucker
Starting point is 00:02:46 is ray real crazy here we you know it's ray get crazy here we you know i mean he'd be acting up we're only jay academics no fucking dj if i don't stop you're not no dj i'm a dj When the fuck are you DJ a party? Oh, I have to currently DJ to be a DJ? Yeah. Why don't you I get on Dr. Dre's ass because he never did no doctor shit in his life. At the end of the day, you're not out of me DJ. Yo, Walo, listen, I've been watching the shit now.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Don't worry about it. I've been watching this shit. We're going to deal with the shit. We're going to deal with the shit. Yo, I'll be watching, you know, Gilead in a good way and a bad way. But you, niggins be letting you slide. I'm not going to let that happen. Listen, we're going to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:03:23 But at the end of the day, you don't DJ. You don't DJ. You ain't seen me at first this, nil? Listen, and you're a young dude. You ain't seen me in versus. That's some old shit. Did you see me in? Listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Listen, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the title of walking around with DJ on your name. You don't need that. Nobody had to have that on a name to be a DJ no more. Hey, hey. Hey, you're young. You're too young that had a DJ on you, Joe. Well, I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:03:42 That's like having an MC. Nah, it's a branding thing at this point. It's a brand thing. But you just, you don't use any into say academic. You don't even say it. Wait, wait, wait, wait. This court determined if you're a real DJ or not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:51 How many dollar parties did you DJed your life? How many parties you doubt dollar parties? Do you know what the dollar party is? I ain't never done no dollar parties. Oh, you ain't a real fucking DJ. You're not a real DJ. Yo, I told me on some 90s shit. Nigel, I was a DJ in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I was born in there. Let me just say this. All right. You need a fan. What's that what I want me to do? Nicky, y'all think that. Yo, listen, I always tell niggies, I'm like, I never carry no crates.
Starting point is 00:04:14 There was never no crates to be done. Niget, everybody, every shit was on Serrado. By the time I started DJing. I was in college. Listen, my DJ credentials come from me being in college. Me trying to, nigga, I was never that athletic, clearly, right? Even though it's in better shape. I was never that athletic, never that cool, but I still wanted to get some holes.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So me and my homies, who there wasn't in frats, there wasn't playing sports, everything is shut down on my college. And we said, Rutgers University, right there, New Brunsway. And we said, let's make part. What you major then? Biomathematics. It got nothing to do with music, but I'm an immigrant, so I came over here. Shout out to my daughter. That's where my daughter go, Rutgers.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I came over here with a mindset I was making $100,000 a year I had to because I realized college wasn't no fucking game How long it'd take you to make that? Well, I never used my college degree. But still, you see I had to make $100,000 a year. Well, I moved into entertainment
Starting point is 00:05:06 and I probably started making that in I left college 2013, around 2014, I started. But I had a regular job because I didn't know what YouTube was going to be. What was your regular job? I was working at Verizon Wallace. I was like the geek squad there.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Did you ever steal a phone? I ever still a phone? Nah, nah. You ever get somebody free, so you ever hook somebody up with service? Man, I was the nigga who like, the people who actually worked there was like a temp worker. They would just throw me their computer.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Like, my shit got a virus. Yo, this shit don't work. And I would have to fix it. I was doing bitch work. Okay. You get me? So, like, you know, I was trying to figure it out. I used to record YouTube videos
Starting point is 00:05:43 trying to cover rap news in the back of my mom's at three. Time out. Shout out to Boost Mobile, who's power in our tour that's coming on right now million dollars with a gaming right now if you ain't got your tickets to the tour gets your tickets i'm talking on new york i'm talking about los angers i'm talking about okay i'm talking i'm talking about chicago we got you i'm talking about baltimore i'm talking about dc is going down alana is going down get your tickets right now and it's powered by boost mobile but uh back to what
Starting point is 00:06:03 i'm saying is you was basically a grunt workers you was you was yeah of course you was a grubbers you were rising so you know what i mean like i was in college i graduated and and you know for people who go to college you always hear about four year college man it took me about five of the years to graduate. I was trying to pursue. A bunch of loans? Man, I graduated with like $140,000 in debt. You're getting people their money back?
Starting point is 00:06:24 Not paid them back. Gladfully. You know what I mean? Good person. No, well, shit. If you didn't pay them back, they're going to lock you up. It was a... Man, it got to the point. Anybody who know about student debt,
Starting point is 00:06:34 when you graduate, they give you a six-month grace period. And I kid you not. Like, listen, if they put the loan people to find bin Laden or whoever the else hiding out in the world, they would find them quick. They used to send me letters every day. Every day. I remember one time I asked to try to use a different voice. I say, yo, who you want?
Starting point is 00:06:52 They send my real name, Livingston Allen. I said, no, he's at work. And the person literally said on the phone, like, I know it's you. You don't got no job. We know that. So, like, that's Sally Mae, by the way. Anybody who ever went to college,
Starting point is 00:07:05 Sally Mae is all good until six months after you graduate. I couldn't wait to get them off my back because another thing, like, you know what I mean, I had to grow up. You know what I was the first person to leave my mom's house, had to grow up. up. Growing up, for me meant me realizing that me making a minimum payments on the student loan debt wasn't doing nothing. I felt like the money looked the same every time I logged in.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And you know, by the grace of God, the entertainment thing worked out, and I was able to pay that off. You know, and I always say that I had that mindset going in, but I always say that any college kid and then you should say to your daughter, I found myself as a man in college, so I chalk up that $150,000 in debt to me finding myself as a man, but this is a business. And I've looked at everything as a business Because a lot of times people look at shit As experiences that you're taking out loans on I've never ever looked at shit since then
Starting point is 00:07:54 It's serious business to me All right well listen get that get that New Amsterdam So we get the work Absolutely this episode of million dollars worth of game It's vote to you by New Amsterdam Baca Life ain't going your way Shot of New Amsterdam Baca New Amsterdam
Starting point is 00:08:10 You know I fuck with New Amsterdam I used to drink in college You did? You know, I've been, hey, really weird story. We don't get you some cases. No, you should. I need you not get some to the studio.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Absolutely. Hey, listen, really affordable alcohol. I used to drink it because we used to try to. Remember, yo, this is all the story of a young kid. I never really got my feet underneath me. I was born in Jamaica. I was looked at this weird Jamaican kid in middle school and high school. Never really had friends because everybody was friends since kindergarten.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I go to a college and I finally get a new start. And I wasn't athletic, wasn't this and third, but I was trying to, find my way and trying to have experiences like anybody else. And yeah, we start throwing parties. You know what I mean? Shit. New Amsterdam was a drink of choice. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Affordable. It did the job taste good. Shit, we were running that junk like it was going out of style. When it came out with flavors, holy, I was going in. Let me take some. This is still five times. It's filtered three times for a clean crisp finish.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And you can drink it straight up. You can drink it on the rocks. Amsterdam mule. You can make a classic New Amsterdam mule. Shout out to New Amsterdam Queen. My wife be at the crib with the little lady. you know, doing the cocktails and it'll just enjoy life.
Starting point is 00:09:17 So when you out and about it, I got a little looking for, get you some new Hampshire than him. I got the coconut right now with the crib, did you not? You love coconut Amson. We're going to lace him. We're going to lace you.
Starting point is 00:09:25 We're going to leave them. Oh, what? I appreciate that. Because, you know, he got a whole porno set here. You know, y'all don't know. You know, you all know what type. That joint was laid out too soft. That shit was like some 80s mixed up modern.
Starting point is 00:09:38 That joint. Because you don't need the couch if you're shooting in the joint. Walo, it's by having a plush and I know you used some prison benches and shit in a cafeteria like metal jazz, my dog. But they don't have nothing to do when you're seeing that. That's the scene. That was a scene.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I could have some people on the couch. You never seen how it was stirred up? That's a scene. That was a scene, man. Hey, yo, I really want to, I want y'all to get a better understanding me because I think I'm the most misunderstood person probably in hip hop culture. You know, people usually having a pain about me based on one little thing, but nobody ever really engages me to have a conversation. So when y'all hit me up like, yo, you want to pop on? Of course.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Do you think, I'm going to say this. As a journalist, you're a journalist, right? You're honest journalist, right? I don't consider myself a journalist. I'm going to tell you why. I do believe things I do fall in line with what journalists are expected to do, but I wouldn't call myself a journalist because there's the people who claim they went to school for this and third.
Starting point is 00:10:36 They're going to say, I don't follow the protocols. So for example. Doing your research on the information and all that stuff. And there's a lot of times. I mix, I'll tell you what's fact, but I also lace it with opinion. You know, I'm an opinionated person. And a lot of times, you know, if you're following journalism, you're supposed to be super cut and dry,
Starting point is 00:10:54 or if it's an opinion piece is just an opinion piece. You know what I mean? I think I'm with a personality. I just think I'm a human. All right. Is you a reporter? Yes. Do you believe that you're reporting of Chicago?
Starting point is 00:11:05 Right into it. I like it. Listen, as Chicago, I'm just saying. Yeah. Do you believe, and I'm talking about you, we're not talking about nobody else, that you're reporting in your, And the way that you amplify certain individuals created a crown wave?
Starting point is 00:11:20 No, no, no, no. Add it to the crime wave. Add it to it. I'm just saying, like, but the reason I say created it because, you know, if you, if certain people feel as though they this, it's going to put targets on their head and they're going to feel bigger, and it's going to start because you was doing a lot of reporting. Yeah. What do you, do you, be honest, do you feel as though it's any time you added to anything from your reporting? Did you think it could cause harm to the streets of Chicago? At the time I thought no.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Okay. And, you know, I love this conversation, but I hate it. Because people, they never want to admit growth. Yeah, growth is anything. They also never want to admit someone being honest. I used to rob people. I don't do no more. So that's...
Starting point is 00:12:02 But somehow in hip-hop culture, that's more acceptable to what's normalized than even me, being honest, and say, at the time, the way. way in which I reported on and covered Chicago and crime in Chicago mixed with the music which was drill, I thought there was zero effect. Okay. I wholeheartedly believe that. As time went on and I got older. As time went on as my platform became more influential, as time went on it, and I recognized
Starting point is 00:12:33 the power of my voice, I believed that... Put that fucking water down, man. I believe that things I would say would maybe heighten already existing circumstances and I always said that like you know when you think about most problems in the United States whether it's that or something else
Starting point is 00:12:54 there's many factors that go into it I've gotten to the place in my life that I'm down to take what you if you want to call it blame or you want to call it learning but I'll take I always but this is where I jump off that conversation right because like I know you're going you're a jumper I'm down to say yeah I may have heightened situations unknowingly but I definitely was not the cause was there ever the time that
Starting point is 00:13:25 the artist reached out to you from Chicago that try to you ain't got to say no names to be like yo why you ain't talking about me like that why you ain't amping what why you ain't pumping my name up like I'm a demon yo and and this is a thing where you know You know, you guys on the media side. You know, we had brief conversations before Cameron. You know, we didn't really bring it up. But one thing I did take away from, like, what Gilly was saying is that, you know, Gilly is using his mind and you are as well, Walo, like you're saying,
Starting point is 00:13:54 yo, I'm going to be the adult to make sure these conversations, I don't think it would be helpful for you if this is included in what we're going to talk about on the podcast, right? When it comes to me, There's artists that they used to set, there's no accountability for the other side, I get it. Artists used to send me like, yo, you see this shit? Yo, when you report about it, make sure you shout out the right people. Yo, look at this.
Starting point is 00:14:26 People would just snitch on themselves. People, it became where, and this is where hip-hop is hypocritical. Because street shit and street rappers and music, And music fans, which sometimes might be all different crowd and maybe all different type of people, they're all intertwined when it comes to the promotion of the shit. So, like, they're telling me the shit that, like, hey, we want to have that reputation. We want you to put that out there that people could know that when we rap in this, it means this.
Starting point is 00:15:02 It's not only Chicago happens all over. And let me just say this, right? One thing I want to acknowledge, right? because as a man you know as a man first it takes a real man to be like no you know I was wrong and you know I feel like I was wrong I added to it and you know just as a man I grew and I didn't realize what I was doing until I was able to grow it's a flip side to that too you know what I'm saying because the young niggas that sending them them videos and the young niggas that they need time to grow too they don't really understand what they doing in life
Starting point is 00:15:38 they're just searching for a moment. They just searching for that one moment where they think, damn, if I get this one moment, this could help my career take off. And a lot of times, a lot of them niggas don't even really be demons. Don't really be, that ain't really who they really is. They ain't really just get a chance to grow up and figure out who they are.
Starting point is 00:15:56 So that's why we get this game to the young niggas. So if you're 17, you 18 years old, and you watching this, and one of these type of moves is one of your plays, You might rethink your shit and say, no, that ain't really what I want to do. Because this shit could come back and haunt you later because you're looking for a moment right now.
Starting point is 00:16:17 But one viral moment, that's all you looking for. And that shit could come back and haunt you later in life. So, you know, ain't nothing like growth. You know, I salute you for that. Hey, but now on the flip side, I got a, I'm a whole while of accountable. So, you know, when I did the war in short, Iraq, right, which was a very, you know, I did it in satire. In hindsight, it wasn't the best way to cover something that was affecting a lot of people. And at that time, I thought it was the
Starting point is 00:16:51 best way to raise awareness by trying to point out how ridiculous this situation was. But in hindsight, there's a lot of hurt pain, the center, that, you know, I always will, I will never say I contributed, like, I'm the reason someone died. Right. But the overall situation, there was some contribution. And I have to have that accountability to say the next thing. When it comes to hip-hop, the finger point and the scapegoatting usually stops once you get the person who you feel nobody likes
Starting point is 00:17:26 or you could gang up on. And it stops because the people who also continue to do it, everybody likes or you're scared of. So I'll say this, right? When I was doing a Warren Shirek, I was 20, 23, 24. I haven't done that shit six, seven years. There's still people rapping about that. There's still other people covering that.
Starting point is 00:17:54 There's still that energy there that's being propagated by other people. But people conveniently ignore that. And every time I've tried to be productive in having these conversations now about shit that the crime rate didn't stop when I stopped doing it. The crime rate been going up. They've been going crazy and crazier. But there hasn't been nobody else has been a scapegoat except back. But that's because at the end of the day, right?
Starting point is 00:18:22 That's like Alan Iverson, right? Let me give you a basketball reference. He was one of the first to be like, no, fuck that. I'm getting tattoos. I'm wearing braids. I'm not coming to the game with no suits on. I'm not coming. now everybody do that but he had to be the one to take the flag for everybody else to be able to come through
Starting point is 00:18:44 just like you saying you ain't done it in six years you ain't got to do it no more you know why it's a thousand bootleg DJ academics out here that's making that's making you know Chicago stories and all types of cities Minnesota so they just looking at you you as damn I seen him document the struggle which that's how they look at it because they're in the struggle I seen him document it I seen him do this I seen him do that and now I seen him elevate maybe I can take the same road so you ain't got to be there but you're planting the seed you feel what I'm saying okay and at the end of the day a lot of times when you plant in a sea you don't know what you're doing you just hustling you just working you just you just following the idea of
Starting point is 00:19:34 something and then as you go as you work you start to see oh this shit growing over here so that's so you start to get even more in deep and in depth in this shit because you see the growth in this shit okay now it's growing even more is growing even more you're going follow what's growing you're going to follow us bringing the money you're going to follow what's bringing the attention you're going to follow what's bringing the views that's what young niggas do you feel what i'm saying so at the end of the day it we respect you for coming in just being accountable no i did add to it now that I'm older and I'm looking back because as black men, that's
Starting point is 00:20:09 what we struggle with a lot of times. I want everybody be accountable though. Absolutely. And but let me make you the bigger. We ain't talking to everybody right now. We talk to you. No, no, no, but that's always a conversation.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Y'all talk to everybody. Yeah, you talk to everybody now. Absolutely. When you talk to other gangster rappers, y'all should be saying to them, y'all are putting out a message that's way more powerful than academics platform. There's rappers who are rapping about gangsters shit
Starting point is 00:20:31 that has gotten more streams on Spotify and Apple more than I've ever. got in terms of views on YouTube for 10 years talking about beef. Beef is embedded in hip-hop's culture. It is. That's why I feel like it's, you know, to quote my nigga, whack, selective politic and when if you're going to take academics to task, take the rapper who's talking about it to task.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Take the people that were putting it out. You see a lot of the Chicago shit, the reason why I'm down to take accountability for some of the shit is because a lot of them were kids. A lot of them weren't even realizing that they're, actions were being viewed by the entire world. You get me? Right.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Now there's rappers who are on labels who are getting $15 million advances who are rapping about killing people, who are rapping about it if you don't slide, you're a bitch. If you don't do this, if you don't destroy your community, if you don't kill somebody, sell drugs. That's what these, and by the way, them rappers ain't kids no more. Remember when I said I stopped doing the Warren Shire? I was 23. Some of these niggies are close to 30.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Some of them are past 30. Why nobody ever hold them to the fire? They're putting out the same message. nigga did something you spin You think my voice more strong than them These dudes are selling hundreds of thousands of records They show up with gold plaques for a record That's promoting hey
Starting point is 00:21:47 If you have a problem with another black man go kill them So yeah I will accept any type of You know flack or demonization for people to say You may light a certain shit which was distasteful But the energy niggas do that because I'm an easy target for everything
Starting point is 00:22:07 I'm an easy target but they don't give a fuck about the issue and I understand it but I got to call it out because I like hip-hop music I like gangster music I don't I don't drive around trying to shoot nobody I'm gonna know about the citizen
Starting point is 00:22:21 but when a nigga drop a song and it sound hard and he's like yo yo niggas did this I'm about to spin yo listen what the fuck is dropping that shit's fire exactly that shit fire so I'm a hit hypocrite as well
Starting point is 00:22:35 because when we see senseless violence we just seen Young Dove pass away we all act like we're dumbfounded but we understand that it's the energy and the music that we've also celebrated Young Dove isn't probably like Are we gonna talk? Like Young Doff ain't probably dead If we if we aren't celebrating
Starting point is 00:22:51 If we had the same energy for niggas half of me When Young Dove drop 100 shots Maybe something would have been different We're not going to support that shit That shit's just promoting more beef and negativity we promote and we love to beef and negativity until the inevitable happen and you know what people go to jail and people get killed
Starting point is 00:23:10 I'm gonna say this though I'm gonna say rest and piece of young dogs of course a piece of young dog of course and piece of young dog but I'm gonna say this though you're 100% right we have a thing to where it's this thing that we represent that we hold on to
Starting point is 00:23:21 because it's the soundtrack to the struggle of you know the black experience in America so it's like that's our shit represents NWA whatever it is it's our shit and we a lot of
Starting point is 00:23:33 like I said a lot of this shit is oxymoronic and we all hypocritical with this shit like platforms artists um
Starting point is 00:23:39 but why do we pick and choose listen I understand what you're saying because a lot of times we pick and choose based upon people try to say uh
Starting point is 00:23:48 and I'm be real who is this person rather if you you know you didn't go to jail you all the shit that we glorifying is that a qualifier no listen
Starting point is 00:23:58 it when you don't have the qualifiers of being accepted or whatever it be, because we're going to be real about this shit. A lot of times in the ghetto, that's why it's real important that black kids understand that it's cool to be smart. A lot of times in the ghetto, we have this thing going on to where it's though,
Starting point is 00:24:14 if you ain't in the streets, you're fucking lame. And the reality is this, though. Majority of the people in the inner cities of America is a small minority of people that's rocking off the mindset of the streets. We don't understand that. How many people is in New York City population? Shit.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Just say $7 million. Save it's $7 million of that. Wait a one than that. All right. Say it $10 million. Say it's $10 million. Do you know how many people in it? You know how small percentage of people in there that is operating outside of the law or had that mentality?
Starting point is 00:24:47 So a lot of times, but it's market to us that this is cool. It's overly marked. Like even when something happened, even when something happened on the news, when the news come on, is only marketing of us doing certain shit. So it was a program in our mind to make us believe that this is where it's at. So we become victims of that mindset. We become victims of that approach, adults, kids, all that. Because we adults, we all adults, but we grew up in it.
Starting point is 00:25:13 You see how you say, oh, when I hear that, I get excited. So a lot of times we don't, we don't denounce what we feel as though that is a part of us. We don't, we don't denounce what we feel as though as a part of us. And we become a part of that hypocrisy to continue to push out this idea and its imagery of, violence and hood shit because it's like oh that's real and then a lot of times we say all right act do I rather act
Starting point is 00:25:37 be rapping about this shit or do I rather him really be out here trying to sell dope but what's the name so even when I hear a young rapper I'm like damn let me try to amplify him me and Gil doing a song trying to throw somebody up is not to throw you up to because my intentions
Starting point is 00:25:51 because I'm a dude that did 20 years in prison I don't want nobody to go to jail that's why I push the message that I do push outside of other things because it's like yo that shit ain't cool that shit ain't cool but it's like if you come in that and you're just a dude
Starting point is 00:26:04 that's trying to and you're hot and you're like man I'm trying to and the first thing you're going to say I'm trying to get out this shit
Starting point is 00:26:09 immediately I'm not thinking about the marketing and the promotion that you're going to do by the shit that you're talking about just like all right let me try to
Starting point is 00:26:16 let me try to do this so you did put it in the way that's that's realistic you said with some real shit we can't take away from that and it's just about us reproach
Starting point is 00:26:26 sometimes we got to deprogram ourselves in order to reprogram or When is the deprogramming going to go down to for us to all realize it's like, yo. So the million dollars worth of a game is bought to you by Lightboxer. Now, I know y'all keep seeing Gil, y'all looking at Gil. Gil beat me one time, but I ain't going to front. I beat him off camera. A lot of times y'all don't see us on camera and I beat him on Lightboxer all the time.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Lightboxer listen. You can track your accuracy and power your punches. I'm talking about the music. All type of music can listen to her. You want to listen to Post Malone, the weekend, Justin Bieber. I don't care what you want to listen to. While you listen to, you can be hitting the combinations. It's all type of difficulty options for.
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Starting point is 00:27:33 Go to lightboxer.com and listen. Get $400 off. Great gift. Great gift. What are you waiting for? Lightboxing, just like that. Yo, what people got to acknowledge and realize that music, especially rap music and hip-hop culture,
Starting point is 00:27:48 is somebody's shy in the mirror of what's going on in these inner city communities. People always talk about, say, oh, act, you like beef, you like this, you like that. that's not true I'm gonna reflect what's going on you know I've seen you on Twitch right I know okay I'm gonna let you finish I'm gonna let you finish
Starting point is 00:28:08 I'm gonna let you'll talk about educate the shit then I'm gonna get to the juicy shit I'm gonna keep it 100 we're not about to do this Martin Luther King thing the whole time we're gonna get into the shit No it's cool but we gotta talk but you can't say Martin Luther King if you just said
Starting point is 00:28:19 why ain't nobody talking so we got to no no no I want everybody listen I hate when people are trying to act like they're fake for progress if you fake for progress and you and you want to hold academics accountable for, in your mind, inciting some shit, let's hold everybody accountable
Starting point is 00:28:35 that was involved with inciting that particular shit. But I don't see nobody saying that. I see people bumping the same niggas music who were the louder voices. It's basically like saying, you're going to give Trump a pass, but the fucking little secretary aide that worked for him that was doing his bidding,
Starting point is 00:28:55 that was just following along with pretty much what he was going on, That's the guilty person. If somebody got a problem with what or how Chicago was affected by rap commentary that was rooted in music, you got to have a problem with the music. Bigger than that, you have to have problems with the labels that gave tens of millions of dollars to these artists and marketed black pain and black trauma. But I see no one actually saying Why the fuck did a nigga go to Chicago And go to opposite blocks to sign
Starting point is 00:29:32 Niggins who are beefing Try to create revenue I see nobody saying that We're having low level conversation That's why when I see niggas get at me I'm like you must either just want some clout Or you just don't want to talk about the issue Because I will never ever
Starting point is 00:29:44 I'm not a nigga who throws a stone And hide my hand and say Oh I got no blame But I'm just trying to tell you I'm in the system Of where all this shit is happening already you can't say act oh act you'll be posting that so-and-so did so-and-so on instagram and then you're not mad that apple music and Spotify and title just playlist of the song dissing somebody where maybe it's
Starting point is 00:30:07 not that overt but you know some songs if you know violence it's encouraging violence why are you playlisting it when they figured out R. Kelly who got you got um you know found guilty didn't they take him all off the playlist because he did something bad right so you're telling me that these companies, these big conglomerates that are making billions they know that hey this guy did something bad even if his music maybe lightly
Starting point is 00:30:36 refers to it we shouldn't support the music yet in the same breath they're promoting a lot of this shit and they get to hide their hand because no one will point the finger at them so you just pointed the finger at them let me ask you this question my way saying that loud let me ask you this question
Starting point is 00:30:52 this shit loud fuck you talk about let me you this question, man. Talk to me. When can I patch this shit up between you and Freddie Gibbs, man? Who, Freddy Gibbs? Like, when can I pass this shit up between you and Freddie Gibbs, man? Yo, can I ask you that question? What do you think is going on with me and Freddy Gibbs?
Starting point is 00:31:10 I just hear you talking crazy about it. You hear me talking crazy about him. Yeah, I didn't see Freddy say nothing about you lately. I seen him back in the past, he was posting up a bunch of memes. The memes was funny. I love them. Yeah, the memes was funny. I didn't see his side.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I seen back with this one he had his. old Instagram. Yeah. Okay, okay. Like, so the memes are funny,
Starting point is 00:31:27 right? Did you? It was hilarious. Okay, okay, so they're hilarious. Yes. Like, do you remember
Starting point is 00:31:32 all the memes? Because I can tell you the mess. I don't know them. I don't know. I'm going to ask you a meme right now. Like, you got kids? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:39 he got kids. Okay. If I posted a meme right now of you in a casket and me like dancing over the fact that you dead or me posting memes that might be funny to people,
Starting point is 00:31:51 but it's also in the same breath having a threatening overtone to it are they going to be funny to you? You got kids, you got family, right? Oh no, it might be,
Starting point is 00:32:02 might not be funny. I didn't see that funny. I didn't see the jokey, I didn't see the jokey, I didn't see the, I'm just talking I see a little piece of the joking.
Starting point is 00:32:08 But you probably seen it because everybody's sending it to you, you know what and going back and forth snapping about some shit. I think this was part of Instagram and some shit. You want me to give
Starting point is 00:32:14 the full thing and this is why I realize, you know, by the way, I think he's trying to do some, you know, my audience isn't necessarily the audience
Starting point is 00:32:21 I listen to his music. I think he probably is like your Fop. Let me ask you a question. I'm kind of antagonize this guy. I'm going to get some cross promotion. You like his music. Do you like, he's a good rapper, right? I don't listen to Freddy Gibbs.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Do you don't list because of the whistle name or you don't listen because he's track? Because he's got, he knows how to rap. No, I'm not no hater. He knows how to rap. Okay, all right. But you know what I mean? Like, again, in my regular day-to-day, I wouldn't listen to his music. But I saw he was nominated for a Grammy night last year.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I had no problem. I said, I think I could rap. But that's one of those things where, like, you know, I kind of things a little bit, maybe it's karma in terms of like, I've gotten a lot of rappers. Essentially, it started by this. I called him irrelevant because he was calling GZ relevant. You know, GZ not selling like GZ numbers in 06. So Gizi had sold some records.
Starting point is 00:33:08 It was like, I don't know. It was like 40,000, whatever the cases. And he said, damn, you know, that boy is irrelevant. You know, he got whatever with Gizi. I'm on a talk show, just like y'all on the podcast. You got to discuss what's going on in the culture. so the topic was then well how you feel about freddie gibbs calling gizzie relevant so i thought about i said it's kind of interesting that he's using sales as a barometer like let me ask you
Starting point is 00:33:27 gilly because like you know you were one of them rappers who did you always use sales as a barometer or you're like not like you don't even told that talk whoa he ain't even sell no rapist he's a fucking love rapper don't even mention no sales he didn't sell shit at the end of the day you could run around here and a lot of these rappers don't don't sell no records You feel what I'm saying? But they make a shitload of money. They do their shows. The majority of the rappers, the majority of the rappers don't make no money other than show money.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I was, I was making a point to say that if you're going to use sales, you're not even a nigger who sell records. So if you're going to use sales and shit on someone else, I can use sales to shit on you and say, if you're calling that guy irrelevant and you don't sell much different from him, y'all are both irrelevant. Touch the nerve. Touch the nerve. Ever since then, he got really spicy. with me. You know what I mean? So at that point, you know, he was kind of getting a little bit like, you know, hey, I guess he's seen me on Twitch.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And this is before a podcast popped off. And by the way, I know he knows that now because he's never revisited. So I made a proclamation. I said, brother, this is when I just bought, I bought like a $2 million house in Jersey. He said, oh, look at this bum-ass thing because you're trying to validate my opinion about what I said. So look at this bum-ass dude who's in his basement streaming. my son live in a bigger spot than he's in
Starting point is 00:34:52 so I put out the facts I said brother I just bought an 8,000 square foot house I don't think you know your son live in a bigger house of me and I'm and that's what really touch the nerve he's been mad ever since these rappers ain't getting money like that
Starting point is 00:35:03 this podcast is getting more money y'all get more money than these niggas don't we put my fucking business out there like that and they told me the number man he told me the number man he told me the number man I got a fucking wrong with you even a sweatshirt got money on it
Starting point is 00:35:15 look at you this is my merch I'm right But, you know what I mean? I wasn't really saying that to flex since I really don't flex like that. But I realize in rapper terms, they only value your opinion when they feel that you're in their league. It's just like when Kanye said to Sway, you ain't got the answers. You know why he said to Sway? He's like, Sway, you're not even at the point.
Starting point is 00:35:39 You're not even dealing with the amount of money and pressure that I am to even have an opinion on what I got going on. Freddie Gibbs was a very unsuccessful rapper upon to that point. everything I said was facts but he got in his feelings and by the way I'm cool with jokes shit I said before I was like yo Gilly
Starting point is 00:35:53 Gillie was getting on my ass before I never knew Gilly getting on your ass what type of shit No no no spicy No no no You ever some flexible shit
Starting point is 00:36:01 You just said Yo why about You're flexible He's still my word He's flexible That's my word That's my word You can't take my word
Starting point is 00:36:09 If I see my word If I see my word on T-shirt I need some I need some of shit All right All right right But before I knew this Nicky he did a podcast
Starting point is 00:36:15 With a murder Mook and somebody else you ain't gonna forget that shit for real and he says some shit about me and say yo what I do to this nigga and I went back to the clips I said what I say about this nigga and I'm gonna be honest with you I got over it quickly
Starting point is 00:36:29 because I did have it up a little bit I got over it quickly because I watched this thing I'm like Gilly's a fucking fool man Gilly ain't got Gilly gives it up like that to everybody right I just call it how I see like the 21 Savage drink when I did the sign when he pulled the sign up and I said something I'll be playing
Starting point is 00:36:44 around I don't be because at the end of the day I don't know you. Nah, you were playing this gangster though. I'm going to be honest with you. He's a real street nigga. You can't do that with him, man. I'll do it with him. Stop!
Starting point is 00:36:54 Stop! Stop! No, no. 21 Savage. That's my thing. He's a businessman. Don't put that imagery out there because you just market it some, some stuff we can't be marketing.
Starting point is 00:37:04 You just said something about a real street. You're putting that imagery out there. That's my fucking, you know, you just talked about that. He's a businessman. That's my guy. He's an entrepreneur. What I had to start understanding is that the younger culture, they take a lot of that shit personal that...
Starting point is 00:37:20 Why don't they get at you like they get a me, though? Freddy, hood. If Freddy, if y'all say something about... Because, wait, you're joking. I'm joking, too! You call Freddy Gibbs a bitch. You know, I kid you not. You call Freddy Gibbs a bitch.
Starting point is 00:37:33 But you see, you're jumping past the story. Let me see. You're going to jump in a bitch. Your energy be more personal. And your approach and your vocal term, they know what I'm joking. All right, so what I'm saying is, we might say something like,
Starting point is 00:37:45 oh, academic, academic, academic. bitch, we laugh. You're joan don't be like that. Nah, I seen him sweating one time and I seen that fucking vaughan pop up on the end. Now that was only for one person. That was for Joe what? Listen, but listen, you, you, you'll be snapping, drinking. Like, we've seen you on what's name. Don't say nothing to fuck about meke else again. I'm joking. I was hoping. I was hoping.
Starting point is 00:38:03 You'll be snapping. Meek gave me to call you. I told meke. I said, I'm going to agendipics. He said I'm not. I'm just playing. Listen, and off camera, he called meke. He apologized. You know what time of this. He apologized. You know what time of this. That's another story. But act. Can I can I say this act. Yo, you got to understand.
Starting point is 00:38:19 A lot of times it's about the application and your approach. So if Gil was saying something, he can be seeing some human, you will be snapping holland to join. So a motherfucker how are they supposed to take it? Yo, I'm going to be honest with you. That's a very good point.
Starting point is 00:38:30 You and you're going to, fuck you. I'm coming. You got the real coming your hand. Fuck you and everybody, you know! No, I don't sound goofy. Yes, you do. I'm going to be honest, though. You'll be off there looking, digger.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I've talked to mad comedians, and I realize they have a comedian. And when you put something with laughter And it's kind of just surrounded with laughter You have a lot more leeway to say some shit I'm gonna be honest when I when I start drinking a little bit I get passionate I don't get angry I get passionate But that passion could always be mistaken as personal angry
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah okay I get it but are we still on let's still still stay on Freddie Because you know the part where you just said I want to get to it So at that point man I I'm hitting them with a little facts. I know those are jabs. I'm hitting them like, you know what I'm giving them little gut checks. Like, yo boy, stop playing with me.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Like, don't try to act like I'm some little nigger. You know what I mean? Like, you were just locked up in Ukraine or some place overseas for some rape. Like you was broke. Oh, we're editing this out. No, no, no, this is facts. This is facts.
Starting point is 00:39:32 He's facts. He's facts. He beat it. I'm not saying nothing. Well, he beat it, but you threw it out there. Like, can I break down the application or what I just told you? You threw that out there like that was a splash on his jacket.
Starting point is 00:39:43 No, no. He beat it. No, no. It's not about the rate. It's not about the rate. It's not about the rate. No. Not about the rate.
Starting point is 00:39:50 It's not about the rate. I'm going to tell you what's about, though. I was saying he was in a fucked up situation that financially he couldn't even help himself. So when you just got out of that, don't try to deal with me like I'm you. I'm not you. How about could y'all just, could you get, is it squashable ways though it ain't that deep? Now, I'm not into squashing with him at all. Oh, so let's move one.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Because we don't want to keep amplifying it. I don't know, we're not amplified, but why wouldn't you be in the squashing it? Wait, wait, he ain't slap your mother. He ain't, listen, hold on, hold on. If I tell you, you're not going to be real. If I tell both y'all the answer, you're not going to be real. Because I love y'all, but I know with certain shit, y'all will look the other way. No, we don't.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Can we leave it alone? No, no, no. I want to leave it alone. No, no, no, I want to ask you out a question. Because this is where it got amplified to another level. I always thought, I'm like, yo, I know he's trying to ask me, because I didn't do some shit to the extreme. No, no, I want to ask both of y'all.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Hey, I figured, you know, we're not going to be around each other. Like, listen, I'm trying, I'm not getting up every day trying to talk about him. Like, we went back and forth, like, it was like a year plus ago. I was over it. By the way, the internet was like, yo, he got the better of me in that public exchange. It's internet shit. It's like the fucking high school people just, like, crowned around each other in the lunchroom.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I'm not that mad if they say it's, L-S-L, nigga, I've done a lot. I went to L.A. He was out there, just like how y'all moving around. You're going to do mad podcast, whatever, whatever. By the way, at that point, also, I'm at the thinking, I say, yo, if anybody even know him, we could, like, he don't like me for whatever reason.
Starting point is 00:41:28 We could get on the pot. Nigger, I'm a media personality. It got to get to a certain point for me not to be able to do this with you. So I'm like, I'll get on here, shout, I'll scream. You can call me, I don't care what you say to me. It's supposed to be able to hands on each other. Let's get some content. Let's fuck it.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah. After I leave, I come back from L.A. He sends out a tweet on Twitter. Man, you know I could have smoked academics. I knew where he was at. I almost pulled up there and smoked him. And the place where he was at there, I knew everybody there. Nobody was going to do nothing.
Starting point is 00:42:01 They was going to let me smoke him. But God told me no. If somebody's talking like that about you on a public platform, them, they're not talking about, oh, I could have smoked while, oh, I knew where that nigga was at, blah, blah, he was lacking, I could have done this, how would you take it? No
Starting point is 00:42:20 name. How would you take it? I want to hear of both that I would take it. I probably would have been laughing because I probably would have been like, why you ain't come smoke me that, nigga? I said that. I said that. I'm still here. Oh, you said that to him? No, I tweeted. I said, I said, why are you tweeting about some shit you ain't there? But I'm going to be honest with you. You see, you said
Starting point is 00:42:36 that, you pop right back. No, no, no. He's saying the operative thing. He'd say he would be laughing. I'm a little tight now. But was you laughing about it at first? He was like, this shit is a joke. One thing for me, I can't take serious. No nigger threatened me when he just typed that shit.
Starting point is 00:42:50 And the world's seen it. So did you laugh at it? I can't take that shit serious. I mean. Just just me. And did you believe that he really knew where you was at? Did you believe? I'm just saying his love was of it.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I believe he knew. I don't believe in his wildest dreams you would pull up. But do you think him putting that on the internet, he really was real about that shit? And he wasn't trolling you? I'm not saying whatever he did. Hold on, no, no, no. But he might have been trolling you because he know, listen, he might have just been trolling you because he knew he knew where you was at. And this is where I realized that Freddie Gibbs is 6'9, my nigger.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I'm going to tell you why. Freddy Gibbs is a son of a cop. Freddy Gibbs' brother is a doctor. His other brother is a district attorney, okay? Let's keep all these things in mind, right? Father cop, brother district attorney, other brother, a doctor. Remember, these are the gangster rappers. He's claiming he's vice lord.
Starting point is 00:43:37 he's big tough and everything he's tweeting out public threats to me i could have killed you right give everything like this in mind right there's not nobody from where he's from in gary indiana they all hit me nobody's vouching him if i wanted to take that further i could give them a platform but i really don't want to keep this going with him he's saying what he would do to me i hit him in the dms it's a fact i hit him the dms i said brother i know you're trolling because you're trying to promote an album. I'm in the media space. I love to go back and forth with anybody. It's going to help me make more money. I'm in the media. I need to put our content every day. I said, but it looks like you have a problem with me because when you start talking certain things, we could find a way
Starting point is 00:44:21 to resolve it. I said, when do you want to meet up? I DM them this. This is facts. It's on, it's documented. So you wanted to rumbling? Anything he wanted to do. You, you know, because it's anything he wanted to do. No, no. Oh, no. No, no. Stop it. No, stop it. No, no. No, stop. Stop it. You know what he did? Remember what I said? Father a cop. Brother, district attorney, other brother, a doctor.
Starting point is 00:44:44 You know what he did? He tweeted out my DM to him. I did not respond to him publicly. He tweeted out. What would you take that to be? You know what I'd say six and a huh? What would you take that to be, brother? All right, let me just say this.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Okay. Hold on. See, you're not keeping the same energy. I'm giving you out of that. Call it, call it spade the spade of space. Oh, listen, listen, listen, I would have done that shit. but I can't say I can't compare a nigger
Starting point is 00:45:11 Wait wait wait wait wait hold on Hold on wait no I'm sure you Hold on wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait I can't compare a nigger that's never Right one in the court of law Or that to my knowledge I know that ever have a statement To to compare him to somebody that I know that did tell on somebody And did make statements I can't do that for
Starting point is 00:45:34 Father is a cop, brother. You're picking on somebody claiming you want to do violence. Let me ask you a question. Let me just ask you a question. Let me say this. Hold on. Can I just say one thing? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Hold on. Can you all? Just read this out. Into the mic. I believe you. No, no. I want you to read it, though. Bro, I believe you.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Because every question y'all going to ask me about anybody who you're going to say has these problems with me, this is the epitome of what we're seeing. I believe you. I ain't got to read. I see it. I believe you. No, no. Because some, y'all got to read.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Y' got to read it. Y'all got to be honest. I gave him the number the call. Ain't no number in there. No, oh, no, I deleted. I deleted. There's a number in there. No, I did delete it.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Because he posted already. Right. Make sure you. You know, he posted. Oh, no. The number right here. What you're talking about? No, you moved up.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Oh, you moved up. Oh, you moved up. You moved up. You moved up. You moved up. You ain't going to read another. You ain't going to read nothing. What is it?
Starting point is 00:46:22 I'm going to ask you one question. You always inviting somebody to pull up. Do you know how to rumble like that? Because you always invite somebody to pull up and get busy. If things don't, hold up, if things don't go right and it goes totally opposite. What do you mean, invite?
Starting point is 00:46:37 You always, pull up. You know, you're a king of pull up. Let me say this. I'm not the king of pull up. No, you always tell me somebody to pull up. Let me say this. I'm not the king of pull up. Let me say this.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Well, in certain people, certain people I told you. No, there's a few individuals. Three people, it's really three people. They threatened that they could do me bodily harm. They said that what they would do when they see me. said I would do a fucking thing. I'm only telling them where they would find me
Starting point is 00:47:05 because they won't find me in their vicinity. I will never be in their hood. I'll never be at a club with them. I won't be in most places that they would be at. But if you want to find me, I'm going to tell you everywhere I go. People are saying they couldn't find me, but I was going to complex every day.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Isn't that a mind fuck? I worked a complex, three and a half years every day, Monday to Thursday. Yo, this nigga hack not outside. Who are the three people? Because we could get this squashed. Well, we don't have to put the meek thing. No, that's done.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Y'all good. You apologize to Miko on the phone I've seen it. You know about the Philly. That's about the shit. You know me and meek, we love each other. Yeah, okay, cool. It's cool.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Yeah, he's wrong for meke. You're about to kill Wacking Hell with Miko. Man, listen, Philly. That's all my stuff. You know what I'm wearing? You know, I live in Jersey. I've learned one important rule, man. Stay out of Philly business, man.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Man, man, that's all. Stay out of this shit. Let's let us do us, man. What goes on in our house? Right. We can fight with each other, but we didn't do it. So it was really, it's Freddie gives it my song. I can straighten the mic sound right now.
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Starting point is 00:49:15 Hold on. Let me just say this too. Hold on. Hold on. Before you call myself, let me just say this right. You sat here. You said, man, I, you know, come from a good family or whatever. I used to work at Verizon. Yeah. I went to college. I was doing the shit. with the tech shit with the computer. You know, I learned my way. You know, I'm a citizen. But you calling niggas up. Am I calling them up?
Starting point is 00:49:40 I'm not calling them. Or you DM a niggas, whatever. I'm responding to their threats of violence. But there's better ways to respond than, hold on, then where you had, I can pull up on you, we can meet up. We could go through. Listen, listen, listen. Hold on, let me finish.
Starting point is 00:49:56 No way, no, no. But I got to correct you why we'll be discussing this. I never said I'm pulling up on anybody. These are all people who claim they'll do bodily harm to me. Let me say this. You just said, wait, wait, hold on. You just said with Freddie Gibbs. Hold on, I answered you DM'd them.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah, no, because he's saying, yeah, he could meet up. Yeah, he's saying, yeah, he would come here. Well, you didn't say that. You didn't read that. You didn't read it. Okay, okay. Let me say this. I believe, I believe in self-defense.
Starting point is 00:50:20 What people must think that you must need to be a gangster or anybody could do anything to you. I believe it's self-defense. But this would I'm saying. But you gave somebody an invite. Hold on, no, no, that's what I'm saying. I got no problem with you. They can show up and there's no problem. Because I don't have a problem with you.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I will never do nothing to you. But if someone initiates a problem with me, I make... You got a license to carry? Brother, all I'm just saying, man... But let me just say something. Let me just say something. None of this don't make sense, Act, because you can't say... Did they show up?
Starting point is 00:50:50 Well, hold on. Can I just... Hey, hey, hey, listen, I know... I know, I know... Pull at this. For any nigga who... Hold on, I'm going to let you go. But for any nigga who's saying whatever?
Starting point is 00:50:59 I'm a law-abiding citizen. I know every law, especially in the state I live at, and where I frequent, I move off self-defense. I don't, I never said I was going to do nothing to nobody, but I always said I was going to defend myself. If you claim you, whatever you claim you are, show me different. And I'm going to always fall back with self-defense. Whatever you want to take, you can take that as.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Can I speak now? Please. With no interruptions, y'all. Go ahead, my brother. All right. It's your podcast. That's what the fuck I thought bitch, you motherfuckers
Starting point is 00:51:32 Shut the fuck Swallow shit today, man What I'm saying, right? You say you're a civilian Right? But yet You tell a niggas To pull up
Starting point is 00:51:44 Right? You're inviting niggers To drama And you're saying When you get there I ain't gonna do nothing to you I'm just going to defend myself But what if
Starting point is 00:51:57 What if niggas actually pull up? up and then niggas actually pull out because I'm from the streets and I know the first nigga on the draw laid a law. Ain't no defending yourself when that motherfucker cook or come out. It's whoever gets that motherfucker first.
Starting point is 00:52:13 So then now you don't invite it a nigga to a whole situation that is it really worth it? I play home games. Is it really worth it? He said some slick shit. I play home games. Bro, wait, hold on. Let me finish, bro. Because all, because that shit,
Starting point is 00:52:29 sound hip and cool because I know niggas that break in the nigger's cribs and play home games too. Matter of fact, matter of fact, I know a kid right now that's locked up because he murdered four motherfuckers in their home. So, hold on, so nobody ain't untouchable, bro. And you got to... That was not the
Starting point is 00:52:49 point. Listen, can I finish it? You got to understand that. If you say you were a civilian, then you should be a civilian, you got to also watch the energy you put out there because the energy that you throw out there is the energy that you receive back. If I'm a civilian and these niggas
Starting point is 00:53:07 is so-called street niggas, whether you feel they're street niggas or not, I can check them niggas in a better way than telling niggas, nigger pull up. Okay. Nigger pull up. Because God work,
Starting point is 00:53:21 a lot of times how God work is he'll put you in a position where you'll be in the supermarket or something than bump into a nigger it ain't gonna be your house you'll be out and about
Starting point is 00:53:33 and where you least expect it you will bump into a nigger and now you got an issue because you sip some liquor and put some negative energy out there but you're still not saying that I put a threat
Starting point is 00:53:47 or a promise of me doing anything you got to realize but when you call niggas out their names you call niggas out their names because listen if you're constantly go ahead and online saying what you're about to do to me I gotta now I gotta call y'all today I'm sorry what did my son say he was going to do to you my son said my son out his mouth said I'm a bitch and
Starting point is 00:54:07 he don't look like me as a man my son disrespected me listen what you keep talking about some gangsters I never claim to be gangster but I'm a man before anything you know a man before anything are you a man are you a street nigga before you're a man okay so so what I'm saying is that everything he's saying won't ever trump that I don't care you could be a street nigga you could be the most gangster nigga who ever lived on earth as a man you will not hurt me or even try to in my vicinity is you willing to squash that shit today though that nigga listen let me tell me all them niggins don't say don't say that crazy I'm just asking even you're having security bro you got to understand this too
Starting point is 00:54:46 and I'm in this ain't just for you this is for everybody that got security hold on them niggas got wives and kids at home too right dumb niggas got families, they got brothers, they somebody fucking nephew, they somebody's son, they somebody, don't put them niggas in the line of fire. Don't, don't add extra motherfucking danger them niggas way because
Starting point is 00:55:07 really them niggas just out here trying to get a check. They're not trying to jump in front of bullets like the CIA. And we living in a time where niggas shoot you to you catch on fire, man. This is a different time. These niggis that fucking, the fucking ambulance don't pull up no more, act. The fire
Starting point is 00:55:23 truck pull up. Because niggas look out window with some trash on fire out there. No, that's a nigger that got shot that many times that it sneaks and coat is the fuck on fire. So I'm just saying you seem like a nigger who know who you are. You come on here, you
Starting point is 00:55:39 accept who you are. You're not trying to be nothing. You're not. But at the same time, I feel like sometimes you just get a little loose. You could check niggas without telling niggas. Pull the fuck up. And you agree with that. I want you advice. I want you to give me
Starting point is 00:55:54 game. Both yeah. Again, I'm giving the situations that is not, I don't want you how to characterize this as, yo, act is just jumping out, saying, whatever, rapper, whoever man, suck a dick, make a pull up. No, I know it's only a few niggas. That's not, hold on. Fuck, even a few niggas. They brought that in it. So if some, okay, I'm a civilian. Somebody's telling you, yeah, like a nigger like you, we would do this to, this to, this is how they're speaking to me without me responding.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Yo, I knew you was there. I could have smoked you, nigger. That's how they're speaking to me without me responding. What is your advice to me then? Should I just ignore it? Because, see, for me, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to give you some advice, right? You have nothing to say to them, though.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I'm going to give you some advice, right? Hold on. I'm going to give you some advice. Wallow will tell you, from time to time I have a goofy nigger from anywhere, just come online and just disrespect me. A lot. Goofy niggas from all over the country. you think I'm going to give some some some energy to a goofball when that's marketing when
Starting point is 00:57:02 when all I'm doing is marketing and promoting so Freddie and my side are goofy niggins I should I'm not saying this is how I look at the niggas who's coming at me these niggas don't know me they don't have no reason to come at me so for me yes in my eyes the niggas that do that to me is goofballs I don't get them niggas no lane I don't get them niggas no outlet I don't get them niggas know. You feel what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, what I'm going to do? A nigga that come at me or wake up and say, oh, I'm going to mention gilly to try to get some traction and I'm going to entertain that shit. No, my nigga, because real niggas don't handle themselves like that. I'm going to ask you this. Don't act. You feel what I'm saying? Real men
Starting point is 00:57:40 don't handle themselves like that. So I'm never going to entertain them small fry shit. You feel what I'm saying? I'm not going to do it. Listen, I ignore my, like. I ask you an important question. You just say how we don't go and fix How shit be crazy with us The culture, we're talking all this dumb shit The violence I asked you
Starting point is 00:58:00 Could we squash that shit? I got the brother number I know him I have no problem with my son I would love to have the same Even situation I have with me You just Watch you see I like that brother
Starting point is 00:58:10 For real I'm not gross That's not even growth You act like I was trying No it is growth It is growth Now I ain't going to try that shit With Freddy Giff
Starting point is 00:58:18 You're scared I'm ready No Nickin you fucking tripping You scared him? Fuck, no. This shit ain't got nothing to do it. Yo, his father, a cop.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Listen, I'm not, I'm just saying because how you, this, all this shit. His brother, DA, nigger. One second. Trying to stop the violence. This ain't no violence. Yes, it is, man. You know, he's the 50 minutes away, right?
Starting point is 00:58:48 Like, there ain't a bollus, right? Like, there ain't a bollus, right? Like, somebody caught you and put you in the fucking headlock, man. Man, that's another thing, like the end-nebby thing that we're about to do headlocks. There ain't no headlock. Who about to put me in headlock? You tell me who?
Starting point is 00:58:58 My son. I just fucking told you. That's why I'm trying to squash this shit right now. He could have been came in if he was going to do that. He's going to probably call me back. But what I'm saying is, though, it's like, it's like a lot of shit to where it's, though. You always tell people, and by the way, this is how even a piece it up, though. Yeah, you know?
Starting point is 00:59:13 This is how the me and the meek issue got squared away real quick. I was down to talk to Meek for five years. I was never allowed and afforded an opportunity to have a one-on-one conversation with me to figure out problems. We're black men. We could, we make millions off this shit. Nobody wants to throw away their life, their freedom, do some dumb shit, or even encourage it.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I'm with that. We could have hopped on a phone call saying, hey, listen, I didn't like when you did this. This is why maybe he did this. This is how really people outside of hip-hop solve issues. Or even if there's some egregious stuff done to certain extent, you'd be like, you listen, there's no bloodshed. There's no bloodshed.
Starting point is 00:59:46 There's no people loss. Hasn't gotten physical. Yo, listen, whatever was in the past, let's leave it in the past. I'm down for that with pretty much. And even when I'm saying with Freddie, he's like, yo, listen, this is just someone who I know
Starting point is 00:59:59 he's trying to promote his toughness by trying to bully me. And that's another thing that y'all, y'all haven't really addressed while y'all are giving me, like, you know, these speeches. My old thing's about squash and shit. In a situation where a lot of these rappers,
Starting point is 01:00:12 Freddie ain't never bully another rapper in his life. You know, Freddie. No, I'm being honest. Now, you never been tough for another rapper ever. We ain't never heard about that. He's been tough with, Jeezy.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Come on when Jeezy's way past that? When Jeezy just went through some real shit so Jeezy been laying low, Jesus married this nice little Asian wife. I'm not saying it like that, but I'm saying you asked what he was his name. And my thing is like,
Starting point is 01:00:34 it ain't about really who he was tough with it not. I'm just saying it, you know, I think y'all should be able to squash it. Well, as I said, I've always said, I just said I was down to get on the phone with him. Most of these dudes, I ain't talking about my son.
Starting point is 01:00:47 They're trying to get these little gangster points of thinking they're going to bully me. They're not fucked up because I'm not reacting in the way of how the niggas scared of the bully should do. The nigger who's scared of the bully don't say, oh, yeah, we can meet. Like, what are you talking about? Like, oh, you want a box? We could box.
Starting point is 01:01:03 The nigger who's scared of the bully don't do that. But most of them, they're not doing it. So you're willing to do a boxing match with Freddie Gibbs? With any of these niggas. You put on the right amount of money, of course. Nigga, I had said it for me. Just suit to me. You know, we can send it on.
Starting point is 01:01:16 We can send it a box of match with me and you. What's up? Oh, wow. Yeah, I see the hands. I see the hands with school, but I, I want you to fuck up. Let's get it done. Thriller, me versus. At least a M.
Starting point is 01:01:28 At least a M. Two M's. That's all this is going to take. At a taxi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Like, I'm going to piece gilly up. You know what? This shit. I'm not, I'm not cutting no way. We're not listening to this. I don't want you to get a shit. I don't want you to cut away. I'm coming in 158.
Starting point is 01:01:46 150? 158. That's all I need. And I'm going to tell you this. I'm getting 10% of both of y'all. I want to negotiate this shit. I'm going to get 10%. Yo, he gassed after Floyd gave him that compliment about the box.
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Starting point is 01:03:03 OCB rolling paper, you got to be 21. Remember what I told you. Listen, OCB rolling paper. That's all gilly the nut use and it's just like that. I see that you have a real opinion on artists and music. Yeah. but do you listen to rap rap or do you listen to moment music because you promote a lot of moment music that's a good question like do you people want to know like do you really listen to hip hop or do you
Starting point is 01:03:28 listen to i'm not going to say hip but do you listen to rap music hip hop or do you listen to moment music because a lot of the stuff that you stand behind you like and a lot of your crowd is is young yeah so so i would say to you that that's an incorrect way to even phrase it because i don't think rap rap is part of moment music if you ask me no i'm not saying it like that but but hear what i'm saying i think the people who i haven't listened to or the styles i haven't listened to i haven't involved i listen to corday who's rap rap yeah but he's if you listen to him compared to some other people i listen to the grisela do's the time there's rap right you get me like i i i do listen but sometimes you know people just think that you're in 2021 unfortunately and i know like
Starting point is 01:04:16 Like, you got to think, you know, this is a, this is the most profitable genre of music. If you think you just got to have some bars over, over some, like that's, I ain't talking about, I ain't talking about, I'm not talking about the business out. I'm just talking about some, trying to figure out what do you listen to because I don't want you promote. I ain't talking about the business out. But the business size matter because I'm going to say this. There are certain people who they're saying, well, this shit would have been hard in 2005. Man, hip hop was so marginal compared to now. if your music can't, you know, affect
Starting point is 01:04:49 multi-generations and multi-racial amount of people and you're still trying to do what was popping in the 90s or early 2000, I'm not going to listen to you. Like, you're trying to give me a nostalgic feeling, which I don't have to be trapped in the 90s or the early 2000s. All right, let me hear all we say that. I progress. You don't like the old back in the day shit.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Like me, I listen. I'm going to be honest with you. Like, a lot of times. And they were killing me for this. They were killing me for this. I listened to my nigga Lloyd Banks album. And at first I did on stream that I listened to it off of it. And I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 01:05:22 I ain't like the instrumentals. Felt like 2003. We're like, we in 2021. Shout of the Lloyd Banks. One of the best rappers. One of the best rappers, but like, I try to battle. I told him in his DM, I will battle anybody, but he never showed him. I told him to pull up.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I used to cut this out. I told him to pull the fuck up. I used to write his rap. What are you talking about him. Stop, but you ain't got no 16. I used to write his raps. You ain't, no 60. I ain't, no, you're trying to get me to spit.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Why are you always coming at the chicks, man? Yeah, who used to write for him? Wayne, yeah, Wayne used to write for you. They got, I heard the shit. Wayne used to write my shit. Yeah, but why are you always coming at the chicks, man? What chicks? Wait, man.
Starting point is 01:05:55 The IG chicks, man. Hey, listen, man. What's wrong with you? They didn't get you no pussy. That's what it is. I said that to you. You know, I said that to you. You got turned down in the DM and you just went ballistic.
Starting point is 01:06:06 You know what? No matter what people think I am, like now in hip-hop, whatever culture, I'd be looking at this shit just like a regular human, right? Well, how you look at it then, nigga? All right, so I look at it like this, man. Man, I see all these girls, and I'm not jealous of them, but not like that. Like, you know, in terms of, you know, they're popping just because they've either open their legs for certain select group of rappers or they've done certain things or they
Starting point is 01:06:29 look a certain way. But I'm going to be honest with you, like, you know, now, and I'm outdated in that. I could be honest with that. I'm outdated in that. You know what I mean? Like, there was a time where a very popular chick. like Melissa Ford or like any other video
Starting point is 01:06:45 vixen at the time Gloria Veles Gloria Vellez It's the gang of them The most that were getting it was the punch line In like you know I wouldn't get far
Starting point is 01:06:54 Or you know what I mean They were pretty much They weren't pretty much The people who culture Was fucking being revolved around These days with the shade room Like I could imagine
Starting point is 01:07:05 Gloria Vilez And Melissa Ford Probably looking at like Ari and being like Yo what the fuck I ain't do right But it's a change of the times so really when i when i started like you know i mean like kind it wasn't even attacking but
Starting point is 01:07:18 it was just kind of questioning some of the the the accolades of some of these women who i just saw had ridiculous fan bases was like around the amber rose black china time i'm like what the fuck what's going on here now i get it now but i do think it's kind of sad you know i mean because we're seeing that you know whether i want to admit it not is i said i have an updated understand of music relationships help like it you might have a rapper and he kind of popping but he ain't like no chicks fucking with him they ain't a record he could make that make a girl fuck with him you know what you gotta do you gotta go date somebody popular to get posted on the shade room now they gonna care about it that got nothing do with music that's some other shit so there's a little bit of me right day where where like I'm holding on to some old ideals you know what I mean where I'm like damn why does this shit even matter but also I'm seeing it with a lot of these women like I mean I feel like they're having their way they just like taking advantage of the whole situation and They take advantage of dudes.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's not a beauty. They could get on, by and large and part because of the beauty. Well, see, but you got to understand, too, right? Females is out of hustling. You feel what I'm saying? They only get in their way because they're dealing with lame-ass niggers. And if you're going to come up on a lame-ass nigger who's going to give you your weight
Starting point is 01:08:35 and you take it. You feel what I'm saying? Oh, you're going, oh, I just get to have everything my weight back. And then anything is a competition. Oh, such and such boy, hint, her a phantom. Niggas be out here buying bitches, phantoms and shit and be with chicks for four months and shit. Five months and shit like that. So at the end of the day.
Starting point is 01:08:53 You agree with that? Yeah. You do. Cash dials said it on the show. No, no, no. I said, do you agree with that happening? No, you could not. First of all, not from a nigger who's been with my motherfucking woman for 20 fucking plus years.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Fuck, no, I don't agree with that. Even if I was, even if I was to break up with my woman right now, split apart, whatever, she lead me, however it went down, because I just don't want to say break up with my woman like that. She's like, what the fuck you throw that out there for? She leaves me. You know, either way. She's all the couch and shit up.
Starting point is 01:09:23 You feel what I'm saying? Either way, for me, it's like, you, I don't give a fuck how much money I got. You never going to look up and see it. No, a chick going to get from me when she deserved to get it. You feel what I'm saying? You ain't going to get from me just because I got it. That's hustling backwards. never been no nigger to hustle back.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Okay, so you know what they killed me on? I'll vocalize when the suedei comes out and says, if your nigga don't buy you or burkin, throw that nigga back to the streets. Like, listen, just like, you know what I mean? And for me, it's about calling a spade of spade
Starting point is 01:09:58 and being fair on both sides. Like, if you see a rapper promotes some detrimental shit that you know is misleading the youth, you don't think all these young ladies who are coming up now, I'm telling you, like, a girl hit 21 these days,
Starting point is 01:10:12 She started seeing the niggas kind of fuck with her. They're instantly going to OnlyFans. They instantly feel like, yo, they shouldn't even have to work. It should be handed to them. Right. That's why they need their father in their fucking life. Yeah, but it's the mentality that's being promoted and propagated by Sweetie. Why don't y'all talk about that?
Starting point is 01:10:27 No, no, this is what I'm saying. But this is what I'm saying. At the end of the day is like this, and I understand what you're saying, at relationships is in fucking trouble right now. Because everybody is watching these IG celebrities and influencers or whoever you were, rappers, singers, artists. They're watching their, and a lot of these relationships is highly produced relationships for the gram. Of course.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Because it's marketing. If, you know, and it is what it is. So women is watching this and they think like, oh, me, man, might be a good dude, but might work for UPS. Might have his own shit, good credit score, good car. But he can't buy her certain bags. So now he got to go and the whole time, this motherfucker might have been your soulmate. So a lot of good dudes is getting looked over all because they can't buy you something. And it's like, you goofy, Shorty.
Starting point is 01:11:10 This dude probably was the one that was the one for you. was sent by God as you pray for me as you make your Sierra prayer right this was the dude that was sent for you but all because you're looking at a lifestyle and we're going to be straight up there's way more women than it is men so the reality is most of y'all is never going to run into the dude that's going to buy you not even a burkin you you're never going to run into a dude they're like in the coach back fuck chel you want to get a coach back hey this is why i love i'm just being real i love that danny laid the baby shit and not for the reason people might think I like it.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I like it that is showcasing the other side of the celebrity relationship when you see the baby just born, the baby crying, and they're arguing. Because that's the reality when we're promoting. We've seen it a lot, too. Everything is perfect on Instagram. Celebrities, they link up with each other for like four months. Pregnant. Hold up.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Hold up. Hold up. Time, my, time, my time, my time. My brother. My son. Yes, sir. Now, listen. Before I say anything, I got you, is me, Gil, and academic.
Starting point is 01:12:07 We want a podcast. before I say anything, can I speak to you first? You hear me? I'm listening to you. You know I respect you. You know I know who you are. I'm not calling you. Fuck that cloud.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Fuck the bullshit. I'm calling you about real life shit. I told this, brother. I said, whatever problems you got with my son, I know him. That's my personally, brother. I know you personally. Fuck the internet.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Fuck all that. And I say, yo, is it problem, you know, can y'all, can this shit be squashed between y'all? You know what I mean? We said, we said, laugh and joke. You know, he always invite your motherfuckers to pull up. We talked about that. And it's cool.
Starting point is 01:12:38 he said yeah i'm cool i'm with all that now i'm gonna call i'm gonna ask you is that cool with you to even have a combo or even just be like you know what because both of y'all's influential people in our culture you know however people see it so is that even a something that can happen i mean i'm i'm not really opposed to having a conversation with him you know to be i mean because for me i just think um how would i say i just think i just think that, you know, I expressed a lot of things that I didn't like that he did, you know, about things that he did, the way that he carried certain things that really just, I thought,
Starting point is 01:13:21 was detrimental, like, to a lot of us. And I think the way that he started to talk about me personally, you know, about being discrediting me, calling me out my name and all these things, it became, it got to a point where I was never. talk about physically doing anything to that man, you know, and he started saying things that was inviting me to fight and physical. So to me, he took something to a level that because I didn't agree what you did on, to the culture, I didn't agree what you represented to the culture. You started to talk about me in a way that I'm not really comfortable. So I don't want, I don't want to have this conversation on the platform. Oh, yeah, no, you ain't got to do that.
Starting point is 01:14:06 No, I just want you all to talk. We're off for this shit But I'm just saying As he here I'm like listen That's my guy I know who he is As a human being
Starting point is 01:14:14 I'm gonna call him And hopefully y'all Can get together And talk Even meet up Whatever And just because It's like we can't
Starting point is 01:14:20 I don't want I don't want somebody Name to come up That I know you know I call you Whenever your name Come up And I don't say hold up
Starting point is 01:14:25 He ain't He ain't on that He wouldn't He would showing us What time it is So that's my whole thing My whole thing Is that he right here
Starting point is 01:14:33 I said man Let me call him Y'all can discuss This shit Anywhere else even get together. You know what I mean? On some real live shit
Starting point is 01:14:40 because it's people watching us. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. It's kind of, for me, like, Wello, you know, I have a very low tolerance for disrespect. So, you know, and for me, whatever I ever said about academics based on something that I've seen him do,
Starting point is 01:14:55 right? I didn't come and say, you know, I think academics said this about me. Or this person told me this about academics. I didn't say academics is a bum and this and that and he don't got this or he did so. I never, those things never, academics posted some shit
Starting point is 01:15:11 about some kids flying. I think that shit is some whack shit. Academics run around with 6'9. I think that's some shit that's that's something shit that's detrimental. This is shit that I've seen, physically seen with my OI. Academics had academics have attacked, accused me of stealing and being
Starting point is 01:15:24 an ambulance chaser, taking money from people. Shit that never happens ever. Like these are shit that never happened. It wasn't based on some shit that was real or nothing. He utilized his voice that said shit that had nothing to do with it. That wasn't real at all. And it wasn't based on something that
Starting point is 01:15:42 he even knew about. He talked about shit about me that he didn't know nothing about. Everything I ever said was based on what I see he put out to the world about something. You know what I'm saying? So it is a different person, it's a different level of personal disrespect to me the way that he handled this situation.
Starting point is 01:15:59 You know? And that's what it is. Can you apologize because if you put something out that was wrong, can you just apologize on some real shit? That's it. This man's shit. Don't make no excuses. We stand on kind of business.
Starting point is 01:16:10 I got to clarify. No, no, don't clarify. Could you? No, because he's not telling the accurate story. No, no, we ain't going to get to the back and forth on here. We're going to let y'all talk off. But I'm just saying if he said, it was certain shit, he don't chase no fucking ambulance. He don't do a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:23 I know he personally. I'm just saying, I know he personally. It's certain stuff that he don't do. I'm just saying, no, no. I'm listening. On some real shit. There's a lot of shit that you said, and I'm like, hold up. So.
Starting point is 01:16:36 You stand on prison Hold, we won't let it go crazy on here Because I don't want y'all to go back and forth That's what I went personal Can I, can I, can I, can I say this? I'm always down to talk to anybody I'm just saying that, you know, I don't know some shit That was low blow on some crazy shit
Starting point is 01:16:52 Did you do an act on some real shit? We're talking I'm gonna be honest Everything I said I felt With the information I knew I felt it was factual All right, well listen And maybe that's because I don't know him You don't know him
Starting point is 01:17:03 I'm telling you I know him I didn't been in the community with him All right And I haven't seen that people deal with him. Well, well, just like some of the things he has said about me that was definitely not factual, that it's probably because we've never had a conversation to actually get clarification behind some of that. Are we all going to have a conversation? So if it's a situation, we could have conversation, of course, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:23 But as far as, you know, he had mentioned that there was disrespect first levied on my side. That was not true. I vividly remember he said, I don't even respect him as a man. yeah that came after you said that I was a blunt and I was somebody that was a failed rapper and all of this shit and you can pull up and these are things that came after that I never said I was I was pulling up
Starting point is 01:17:46 I never said that and not at that point you said you said you didn't respect me as a man right after you pulling about it about it no I that's all that came first so that's why I didn't care about your opinion as a man. Okay. That's why I said it. Okay. Your opinion of me in account because I didn't see you as a man.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Okay. That's why you made an opinion about me based on shit you didn't even know you never seen or nothing about me. And I said your opinion about me didn't matter because I didn't see you as a man. That's where it came from. I spoke about you as in your rap career and what I thought about it. I spoke about what I thought you were doing otherwise in a professional career. And you don't know nothing about... Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Just like how you spoke... Hold on. But just like how you spoke...
Starting point is 01:18:39 Just like how you spoke about me and what you saw or thought my platform. No, no, hold on. I post about you. Yeah, but that has nothing to do what you know about me personally. You're posting by my professional career. I can respond to about what I... I just know what you put out. And I said the energy that you was putting out that you
Starting point is 01:19:01 was advocating and you kept promoting violence with these kids was detrimental to the culture. And I didn't change I'm not going to change that. I don't think I said anything that was wrong in that. You started talking about my professional shit that I do. Yeah, but you're talking about my business. If you're talking about my business, I'm going to talk about
Starting point is 01:19:17 your business. All get on the call. You don't know nothing about me. You don't know anything about me. You're going to call. I'm going to say this, though. You're giving what you perceive as facts about what my platform and what what we stand for over here okay i could give i could give a very astute um description of what i believe that your career and your plight stands for i'm too then then when you start you don't know how i make money you don't know but just like how you don't know like again you don't know the ins and out of my platform like i was on clubhouse before i was on clubhouse before
Starting point is 01:19:52 some of the stuff that y'all were accusing me of doing and whatever labels was paying to promote nobody's getting that labels but you don't want to have that. conversation with me because you then said it, I don't respect you as a man. So, of course, at that point, I am going to go personal because now you have, you have now taken away from the platform and what you've think you. Oh, well, you, this is the whole thing. At the end of the day, it's like, I'm going to let you all get on the call, but like, it's just something that y'all might be a talk. I'm just saying, it could be a talk. That's all. I don't want nobody to go to another place. I'm always, I'm always down to talk to people. It's usually when
Starting point is 01:20:24 they start to, like, I'm not, don't add no, no, no, I'm not, no, no. I'm not, no, no, But that's not me. That's not me. That's not me. Bro, I'm just not the nigga who you could. Don't have no source. I'm just not the nigga you could scare with violence and then I'm running a hole. You ain't got to go about the violence.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Don't do the violence shit. Bro, he was the one who brought it. You know why even said anything to him? No, you're right. I'm not violent. You're right. I'm not violent. Hey, Mike, don't go on your back.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Why, why are you talking about something else? You have, you. The reason why I mention any of that is because you had said to me what you would done to me. And I'm like, you aren't going to do nothing. Let me explain to you, bro, because I need you to understand. The level of violence and understanding of violence that I have been involved in my life, you don't, you've never been involved in that.
Starting point is 01:21:09 And I understand the detrimental of that. And that's why I utilize my platform, my voice, to do something different. That's why you shouldn't talk about that violence. But listen to what I'm saying, bro, so you just want to talk. I'm explaining to you, right? The way that you speak to certain individuals and the way that you, the aggression that you have, I have a lot of people in the streets that move a certain way that I've protected a lot of different shit because I'm out of that life. And I'm trying to tell you that the aggression that you have, I don't think that you understand the ramifications of that.
Starting point is 01:21:42 I understand the ramifications of that. I understand what comes with threatening a man and telling them to pull up and saying that you've got more money to have and you can put money on somebody's head. I understand the ramifications of that academic. So when I say that, if I said that about a man, I understand that I can lose my life or I'm willing to take that man's life. You never dealt with that level of aggression or violence. Hey, but hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Y, I told my street, should I keep telling you how I'm a man. Yo, I'm telling you all of a man, so I don't care what you're saying. We ain't call for this. No, no. It's not the game. It's like, yo, y'all are acting like, oh, I could say whatever to y'all because I'm prepared for it, but you're a bitch.
Starting point is 01:22:21 So, no, nigger, you can't threaten me or you can't make me feel uncomfortable and where I'm at. He just talking about... That was a sentiment I got. That was like, if you're trying to make me feel uncomfortable, I will not be backing down. I will invite you.
Starting point is 01:22:34 It's not about backing. But I'm trying to... You're talking about back and down. It's like me saying, me talking about I'm going to go have a fight in the ring with Mike Tyson. I can not be uncomfortable. But there's a reality that Mike understands that I don't. And I'm trying to tell you,
Starting point is 01:22:47 you're playing in arenas with men and people that live by different rules than you. And you're inviting... Why are you talking like? get some killer some shit. Oh, see, come on, man. No, for real, though. I'm a joke.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's bringing it off of there. Much love. Much of my son. That's love. Like, I wasn't trying to take it down. Oh, bro. Oh, I agree.
Starting point is 01:23:06 Everything he's saying is fact, bro. Everything he's saying is fact. You say, listen, you said here and you said you were a civilian, bro. I'm trying to get you told to be peace. You said here and you said, y'all not hearing me. I hear you out, too. You said you're a man, hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:23:19 You say here and said you a civilian, right? What I got to do is somebody, somebody, somebody, somebody, somebody, Somebody now disrespecting you. Listen. He said, everything he just said was the God honest truth, though. He said, the shit that I've been in in my life, you've never been through that type of shit. Got nothing to do with being a man. I don't care about it.
Starting point is 01:23:35 They got nothing to be being a man. Yo, you, let me tell this. There's somebody who probably never did no crime in their life, but they got proud and respect for themselves. They could run into the biggest killer who got a million bodies. And that person disrespect them, they're not going to run. They're going to stand there and defend himself. I didn't say. And that's my whole point.
Starting point is 01:23:53 I didn't say you was, but what I'm saying is your energy. My energy after you have said, I don't respect you as a man. If I was around you, I do this and that to you. What energy could I have? But, nigger, what are you talking about? What do you want to say, all right, you got it? Just one hand. On one hand, you just said,
Starting point is 01:24:12 Yolo broke this shit down to you, you sat here and said, you know what? Because I'm always, hold on. You said I'm not. You said I probably could have delivered it better. You're right. You'd be delivered. You snap out with some people see certain shit. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:24:24 That's basically all he was just saying. So let me ask the question. If you're listening, you're not listening. No, I am listening. You can't listen with a rebuttal. You're not listening. Heck, he didn't listen. Listen, can I finish getting this?
Starting point is 01:24:36 He didn't challenge your manhood. He didn't disrespect you. We're talking about right now. Right now. We're not talking about. It's right there on that call, bro. We're trying to get past. But what he's talking about is listening to.
Starting point is 01:24:48 But what he's talking about is what we talked about prior, like a prior. Then he challenged about. my manhood prior it's inequitably it's yes bro so when i bring that up y'all like oh no no like listen i'm sitting here talking about what happened after we call right now bro i'm down to just have a conversation but he's bringing that up i'm sitting here talking about academics said this academics did that well it's going to sound like i should be apologizing if you don't know why academics did that it's going to sound like it of course you'll be like well academics said this he said that so if you It's the same thing respectfully when Meek got on Clubhouse.
Starting point is 01:25:26 It was all about what I did and nothing about what happened before academics did that. Can I ask you a question, though? Yes. Then Meek activates your feelings because you went totally different when he came and said what he said. Didn't he turned you up? You got, you, you were winning your. Well, he turned you up. You know I was listening.
Starting point is 01:25:44 He activated your feelings. He actually put your feeling right. He wanted to tell him. He wanted to hug him with his stuff. He can't wait to see me. He said, I can't wait to see me get him up. You said with this fucking shit. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Hold on. Fuck that. Mike searched that button. He didn't say nothing disrespectful. He actually called you. He actually called you beloved. You feel what I'm saying? He didn't say nothing.
Starting point is 01:26:05 And that's how niggas talk to niggas in New York right before he dissing, man. Stop. I can't see these things. Come on, me. Yo. That's crazy. Man, you don't turn it to a street nigger now, man. You're a street nigger now.
Starting point is 01:26:15 You're a street nigger now. You're a street nigger now. What is, if a street nigger is the only person. allowed to defend himself when somebody disrespect them? I'm not saying that, bro. We're not saying that. Nobody, bro.
Starting point is 01:26:24 I just want you to know. It's cameras on. It's people watching us. I know. They're going to be able to hear the conversation. Sometimes you just got listening. Don't get defensive. He didn't disrespect you.
Starting point is 01:26:35 Oh, he said, listen. Listen. Hold on. You don't listen. You don't listen. You know, tell a half the story is being disrespectful. Do you understand that? If you got an issue, if both got an issue.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Heck, I'll just say it here. But if y'all both got an issue. issue and I come in and I say yo I won't both be out of squash it and I said wallow you tell me what happened and you just say your piece and then he just got to shut up and I'm like oh okay work no like nobody didn't say you had to shut up act but what we're saying is he's sitting here even his temperament is calm your temperament is a little different it's like wait hold up like it's like bro my temperament for somebody who's not telling the truth It's the Rutgers Act and it's the street act.
Starting point is 01:27:21 It's a jersey city act. No, no, no. The back block. No, he's not telling the truth. You got to tell the truth. All I'm saying is, listen, I just sat here, right? Before my son came on, a half hour, 45 minutes ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:34 I said the same exact shit that Mike Son just sat here and said to you on the phone. Oh, the pull-up. That's why I'm sitting here. I would never let a nigga out of him. Damn, bro, you cannot let me finish for shit. That's why, when he's saying, I'm looking at you saying that's the same shit I just told you
Starting point is 01:27:53 just you could check niggas better than telling niggas to pull up bro well he could check me better than saying he don't respect me as a man and that he would do this and that to me you don't want to address that part you that's the point that's the only thing I'm trying to get your dress I'll agree with what you're saying but you gotta address the other side I mean because I've asked
Starting point is 01:28:11 both y'all what y'all would do if niggins say they were a smoke child y'all all act like I don't want to answer I keep saying it's selected politics I just told you I was a lad I told you I'm I told you I would have laughed because if a nigger would have came to me on Instagram talking about he going to smoke me on Instagram yeah okay cool buddy I believe you all right I'm waiting I'm fucking waiting like so for me I answered the question it's not selective politic and it's just niggas is trying to get past the dumb shit
Starting point is 01:28:46 Yeah, but you can't bring me into a negotiation room where, yo, it's, yo, act, you should apologize, act, this, no. Bro, I never told you to apologize, bro. And by the way, I'm still down because I have a conversation I've never told you to apologize. But I'm not going to have the narrative get out there where it's like, oh, act just start talking crazy to this guy.
Starting point is 01:29:09 Act was saying, bro, why are you mentioning me constantly? I get it. He says he's on some hip hop, like he's for the love of hip hop. See, you got a massive way of being sarcastic and sliding your shit. See, this is my point, act. This is my point in my point only, act. You know, that nigga got you got your own contract, man. Y'all don't defend it.
Starting point is 01:29:27 No, I'm not defending no, nigga. Act, I'm just saying, this is my point. If I got an issue with a nigger, it don't matter where I see you at. I'm always going to have the same energy. You ain't got to pull up to my house. You ain't got to pull up to where. I'm at, I can see you in motherfucking shop
Starting point is 01:29:49 right at motherfucking 10 o'clock at night right before it's closed picking up some motherfucking hamburger meat for some spaghetti. I'm still going have the same fucking energy. That's all I'm saying. I'm saying you can't sit behind no
Starting point is 01:30:05 cameras and had his energy, but then you bump into a nigga and the energy's not the same. And what I'm saying is God will place you in a position, bro. out of anybody, only meat meal I have to have to be the same. Only meat milk out of any of these things you say saying, and only meat mill I knew if me and me can ran to,
Starting point is 01:30:25 I said it. If me and me could ran to each other, it would have been a different situation. Like, so my whole thing is, these other things like, bro, they have no business even talking about me. I talk about hot rappers.
Starting point is 01:30:37 I dissect meat milk career all the time. T.P. with a slammy. Oh, what? T.P. with a body. Boom. Earn with the stops on your head. Oh. Yeah, yo.
Starting point is 01:30:45 Earn would have jumped off the top rope on that. Who are these people? Who are these people? I'm worried about Earner. No, no. I don't worry about it. Yeah, so when I was going back and forth with it, I don't know. He'll need to know what he'd be able.
Starting point is 01:30:57 He'll need to know he beef. Listen, when I was going back and forth with Meek Mill, I knew the level of severity was at. And by the minute, we talked about that. That I had to move a certain way, and he always moved a certain way. because had something, you know what I mean? That's where my mindset was at and that was where his mindset was saying it could have been, right? These other dudes, I see them get up every day.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Like, whatever my son is saying, like it sounded like I'm trying to be the tough guy, but my son got up every day. Academics bad for the culture. Academics to leech. We got to get him out of here. We need people like him to not be able to exist. How does he make every single day?
Starting point is 01:31:41 Freddie Gibbs. Bro, I said one comment about you. I say you can't respond. Whatever, whatever you flame me, whatever, cool. Year later. All right, let me say this. You just randomly jump out to my, yo, I could have smoked this thing. So now I can't respond.
Starting point is 01:31:53 I'm going to say this. But I just know they're not meek. And also everything I'm saying to them, I'm saying it to them not because I'm like on some delusional. Nigger, I didn't drop an ad just for no fucking reason. If y'all got a problem with me that much, what's up? But I don't want to have a problem with y'all. So if y'all want to get into conversation, but some of y'all say I don't want to come in as a man so we can't. it's all. So let me be what it be. And for the rest of y'all, Freddy Gibbs, you're just trolling.
Starting point is 01:32:17 I don't want you, I don't want something to happen in there. You put your daddy as a police officer investigating me and your brother over here as a DA prosecuting me. I don't want that. Hey, you know niggas be dying out here. I do know this. And this is what I'm trying to say, why don't nobody go tell that niggis, bro? Can I ask you a question? Academic saying the first blog game and the first media personality, why the fuck you keep talking about that, me? Why? Why does academic? kicking it with six nine now why does academics kick into with six nine have you up on your skin and feelings like that
Starting point is 01:32:49 nigga i got my own business nigga because he's old no let me ask you he's not even in hip hop let me ask you a fuck what we're talking about let me ask you a question though on some shit like i'm a hip hop one of the biggest this nigga not even hip hop he all the picket signs why the fuck you who fucking he's not even a hip hop nigga hold on you fucking shit up he not in hip hop Oh, you spit on the equipment, no. You're not turning that, no.
Starting point is 01:33:13 This thing and said that dumb as shit. No, we got turned it up. You know what you're doing. You know what's true. You know what's true. You know what you're doing. Give me some tissue, y'all, please, man. You're fucking laced a fucking material, man.
Starting point is 01:33:23 But am I lying, though? Listen, I'm witch out on the, my passion could be misconstrued. But I can never say I'm not speaking facts. All right, let me say this, though. Let's move to a place where we get you. Let me say this when we get you into a better spot. Who right now?
Starting point is 01:33:39 Who right now on some real shit? Listen, on some real shit You know, it's just rumors How much money did you get paid for $6.9? This business. I never got paid a dime. So you market somebody for free. So labels ain't come to you and say, yo.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Okay, okay. So could I, and I've said this before. No, we're talking about business. We ain't even talking about him. No, no, no. We only told my business. Because people want to know. We only told my business.
Starting point is 01:34:04 And this is why I'm always upset at, like, people who, like, you know, their hate. And this is like, it goes for anybody. Don't touch that. Don't touch this shit. This goes for anybody who ever had a problem with, you know, that guy, and then they're trying to take it out against me. No, I'm not even talking about him as that. I'm talking about business marketing because you was a big part of his career.
Starting point is 01:34:24 No, I hear that. I'm giving the business. But I'm trying to say before I give the business, I hope people would understand the business for them to stop. You might go about some new equipment, man, with that dumb man. No, you know, I got this. It's a fact. You know it's facts.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Go, go, go, go. You know it's facts. Go, go, go, go. All right. Here's the thing. 6'9 went from a rapper who was on the brink of being shelved and dropped on a label. It's plain. It's 10K projects.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Let's call something else before. They give a lot of money. The owner of it is the son of Lucien Grange, the most powerful guy in music. He's a guy who cuts Drake all the hundreds of millions of dollars check. He cut the billy for Birdman. Okay. Okay? He has an indie label.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Mm-hmm. Because, you know, you give your son something to work it out. They signed Trippie Red 6'9. 6'9 was not the label favorite. Because of some controversy, he was actually about to be dropped. He has a song called Gummo. I like the song. I, like, randomly, you know, because I'm just supporting it just randomly.
Starting point is 01:35:32 His label owner was like, yo, whenever you're in LA, like, we should, like, you know, catch up the drinks. I always tell the story. I don't even I don't know 2017 I don't know no label people You love a drink though I do like to drink Yes you do I show up to this place
Starting point is 01:35:47 I always call it right now You had a few so No I don't know the dumb shit He's saying about my son You're laughing and it's true Look at you No but go ahead So I show up to this place
Starting point is 01:35:56 I always call it the Illuminati Hub It was everybody in the fucking world That had some importance was in it I learned later was called Delilah But I didn't know that's how L.A. moves Like people all these executives They might compete with each other in daytime, but at nighttime, they all frequent and partying the same spots. They're talking business.
Starting point is 01:36:15 I didn't know about networking like that. So I showed up there because I was at Complex Con. They were like my little chat niggily. That was my audience, like, you know, name, were like 12 people. I showed up there. Everybody's in suits. That's the first time I seen Steve Stout. I never seen Ebro after that, but Ebro or Lesz was in the room too.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Ebro. That guy was there. Somebody else from Sony was there. Hold on people that used. care about, but you never see. That's what I called the Illuminati meeting, because I couldn't believe that. Wait, all y'all have powerful music, people be in the same room? I thought you was beef. Because y'all artists beef with each other. It's not. So I met with him, and I said, man, I was interested why you even wanted me to meet with me. He said, I can see you're a very
Starting point is 01:36:57 powerful influence in the culture of media. And whatever you say, you as a person, your platform him influences a lot. I see you like 6'9 music. I never talk to 6'9 at this time yet. That's like the music. I posted a bunch of times on my Instagram. I said, yo, why isn't this the biggest song in New York? Remember this is after Bobby got logged this. I said, this is, listen, I'm always
Starting point is 01:37:20 the, like, I always like go to bat for the youth. Because I was one of the people, say whatever you want about the Warren Shirek, I'm covering the young niggas in Chicago. So I'm like, why ain't this the hotest shit in New York? New York. He tells me a lot of problems that six-kniters have. You know, well, Pierre don't want to clear the beat. This person don't want to do this. Because there's controversies around him, you know, allegedly being a pedified dissenter.
Starting point is 01:37:49 The guy wanted my advice. And this is the God honest story. I'm telling you, if there was money, I would tell you. He wanted my advice. He said, what do you think we should do? I said, first of all, you've got to put this song out. because it wasn't our official It was just out on YouTube This Lucy's Grange Yeah I said you gotta put this song What's his name?
Starting point is 01:38:09 Elliot Grange I'm just saying The people need to know And I said you gotta put it out And they're like Well we're working on it But you know It's giving us a tough time
Starting point is 01:38:17 It's giving us a tough time With this producer So I then said I then said right I then said You know what you need to do Because I like the song I never met him
Starting point is 01:38:27 But I try to post some of his like stuff On my Instagram Always gets reported The guy who's his label owner says, why does it get reported off your page? I said, I think it happens on World Star 2. He's so hated because people look at him as what they are seen as the rumors
Starting point is 01:38:47 that they hate him. I suggest to him, I said, yo, I know artists don't like to talk, especially his new generation, but he needs to clarify what people think about him. He needs to address the rumors. He needs to meet it head on. The advice I left,
Starting point is 01:39:02 LA giving him is that have him do an interview. They call me back five, six days later. Yo, we try to get him an interview with everybody for him to explain this side. Nobody wants to do it. I said, what? That's his eyes on. Nobody wants to touch it with a 10 feet pole.
Starting point is 01:39:18 They said, act. I know, like, you already helped us a lot. Is it too much if we ask you to give him an interview? And I didn't go in and try to interview the nigger. And usually I don't even fuck with like new artists like the, but I was like, all right, fuck it. I'm gonna do it. And I only did it because I've been the black sheep
Starting point is 01:39:35 through my whole media career. I didn't come up on Hot 97. I didn't come up on these glamorous platforms. I came up with a niggit that was doing videos in the back of my Mazda on my break at Verizon. And I say, yo, fuck it, I'm gonna give me an interview. I gave him an interview somehow. What did you use?
Starting point is 01:39:51 You were using a phone to do your video? Now, we had some little DSLR cameras and like, you know, I think the audio was fucking bad on it. Like we had like Twitter. And we didn't even have the video, such it was like one angle type shit, you know? And, you know, I think I edited on I-movie real quick. And I always said, I did three, the reason why I fucked with him, I did three interviews with him that day.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Because his management came over after everyone and said, now, do it again. Yo, he's saying the word bitches and that's not going to look good if he's explaining this type of thing. And I remember I did the thing, three interviews. And I talked to his label, and his label said, okay, all right, what do you got? And I said, yo, I got three versions. I don't know which version I want to go with, but I got three versions. And his management said, let's go with the super PC version. And I talked, and his label hit me on the side and said, you think this is going to work?
Starting point is 01:40:41 And I said, that ain't going to do shit because he don't seem real. He's not keeping it in a hundred. Y'all trying to make sure he seems PC, but he's never going to be PC. And this is how I met him. And this is how me and him started having a relationship. Because he called my phone and he said, yo, act. I didn't have the phone number here, but he called my phone. He said, act.
Starting point is 01:40:59 I hear you don't like the version of the interview they want me to put out. My management won't want me to put out. And I said, yeah, I'm going to be honest with you. We did it three times. The first time, you just kept it real. The second time, your manager didn't want you to say certain things. And the third time, he definitely didn't want you basically say anything. I think you should go with the version where, yeah, you're saying some derogative words,
Starting point is 01:41:20 but you keep it in a hundred. He said, fuck what my manager says. Let's go with the real. I like that. That was cool. From then on, he hit me a couple of times, and I'm going to be honest, he did what many rappers who have gotten helped. I talked to so many journalists. You see, I interviewed the big dogs, but you don't have somebody, for the most part, in journalism come up,
Starting point is 01:41:45 they interview a nigger when, like, months before they even get on a double Xcel, maybe years before. You see, when these artists blow up, they don't pay them shit. These people are struggling, always interviewing new artists, and these new artists take these interviews. leverage it in other ways and when they blow up they say fuck you to the person in the media and the reason why I fuck with 6-9 is that he saw how I put my
Starting point is 01:42:09 platform a little bit on the line because people are going to be like yo and they were saying why did you give him a platform how much he gave you I never got paid but here's the thing and this is the bigger story right he realized like yo now fuck with this guy
Starting point is 01:42:24 anything that was news for him exclusively it was called me first He went to LA There was some fight TMZ was there He called me first Yo Let me give you the shit
Starting point is 01:42:35 Before TMZ gets it Also he's a smart Dude too I'm not dumb He's smart If you could Tell the media Your side first
Starting point is 01:42:43 It plays better He who tells his side First Usually seems like Trueful one Smart guy But here's how My platform benefit
Starting point is 01:42:52 That's why I never need to take any money If you operate off Pay for play Especially when you're coming up You're fucking losing every label start calling me everybody I sat down with everybody
Starting point is 01:43:04 everybody that was in that room I sat down with every one of them in the next three to six months they called you 6-9 now has a record going crazy he's on his second one he's on his third one he's looking unstoppable you broke gumbo
Starting point is 01:43:19 I didn't break it but they thought I broke 6-9 and what's the difference between the song and the artist the difference between breaking a song and breaking the artist. Because a song could come and go. Breaking an artist and having that exposure
Starting point is 01:43:34 is what artist development was trying to do. They shut that down many places. It's the hardest fucking thing. You see with TikTok these days? The fucking song is bigger than the artist. You don't even know the artist. You don't even know the artist.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Who cares about him? Hey, of course, I'm a savvy business man. If y'all want to give me all the credit, I'll take all the credit. Now, he's a genius in terms of he's always into some shit he's messy too you get me
Starting point is 01:44:00 like so he always into some shit but of course everybody's calling me like yo could you get the visibility that this guy has for our artists I looked at all of them and I said listen I hit him over the head
Starting point is 01:44:15 like y'all was Fred Flintstone you made the bag that's where you got your bag at M's they had to do it you got your bag every label come at you they still come now
Starting point is 01:44:27 Because But you ain't been able to Oh no, no, no Well, it's not You haven't been able to break anyone Here's the real truth First of all, a label is a billion-down company They just got money to spend
Starting point is 01:44:40 They probably just throw y'all money just because If I wanted to break another artist First of all, it couldn't be money-driven It would have to be, oh, I fuck with them I used to link up with this thing on just random days He would be like, oh, let's make some content I agree, make some content, I'm gonna post it Like that took a special
Starting point is 01:44:57 kind of connection also has this type of artist that could actually create content. So it's not like, I'm not a gatekeeper who could pick who's popping. It takes the artist as well. And what the artist got, what's the work that the artist got to put into the pop? Because a lot of artists think, oh, I'm going to get posted
Starting point is 01:45:13 on this page and I'm out of here. I don't have to do now. I don't have to create no content. If there was a secret to 6'9, let me tell you this, 6'9, even from when he started to this day, he thought of himself more as a marketer than a rapper. You don't want to do a bit too much more fucking talk.
Starting point is 01:45:29 No, we're not talking about him. We're talking about the business of it, because. So let me ask you this question right here. A artist, period. What do it take? These days being like, so these days, this is what the labels tell you. The labels say, be a good rapper, and we will figure out the other things to get you known.
Starting point is 01:45:51 But they don't know what it is. They don't know. That's why they need gatekeepers like us. So you know what they're going to be like, oh, well, I think if, People know you, they'll like you. Let's see if we could get him, let's if we get them on a million dollars worth of game. Let's see if we could get academics to fuck with him. And they're trying these things, but it's like, it's not organic. It's nothing's organic.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Like these days, the guy kind of also has, that's why the baby's so dope. Yep, because his energy is organic. That's why young thug is dope because his energy is organic. That's why 21 Savage is dope because his energy is or Kevin Gates, my nigga. They don't tell you that. but that's where the game is at now before back in the day they could create some shit around you
Starting point is 01:46:33 it's hard now before they can tell you shut the fuck up we don't make this seem like what you got going on but it's so superficial and we could see through it right we could see through it like you're not the person that your label's marketing you to be right we're engaged with you nowadays so again you know for me
Starting point is 01:46:50 I believe I could do what and obviously I would try to do it where there's less beef but I believe if I could do that again, but it would have to be an art, it takes the right artist too. It's not just me. Just like, they probably look at a job and be like a million dollars worth of the game. Y'all can do anything. Yeah, we can.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Let me ask you a question. Why did you have turned down an interview with 6-9? Because I know we called you. I mean, that's just not, I mean, where I come from and how I was raised, I just was raised to how that you stand, what you do. You feel what I'm saying? And no matter what the situation is, if you choose to jump out there
Starting point is 01:47:23 here first, then you got to take what come with that. You feel what I'm saying? And so it's not just nothing personal against six, nine. It's just I can't rock with, like, everybody in Philly, no, one of my best homies. You feel what I'm saying? That I used to be with every day. It's like American Express car, never leave home without him. I found out that he told on some niggas, me and him never hung ever again in life.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Because how we was raised, how I was brought up, you stay in what you do. This is a nigga right here who went to jail at 17 years old. bro and got 20 years bro he ain't tell on nobody he stood what he did he didn't say hold up he was with me no wait he did no it was none of that he stood on what he did
Starting point is 01:48:09 and that's and when you step out here and that's what you choose to do when you act like you subscribe into the street shit you got to stand on what you do man and that's just just how I operate on life I agree with it from your perspective
Starting point is 01:48:24 I think that's a great perspective I only look at it that I think you may have missed an opportunity to teach the people who look at him unless you don't care to teach those people I really don't care you know like obviously
Starting point is 01:48:37 the streets made a mind up about that but they you know I went to a concert this is after he did he still doing stuff he got a different audience yeah it was all these you know non-African American there was some slight a little bit
Starting point is 01:48:49 maybe like 2% but it was this whole different audience that consume hip-hop right and they don't care care about those ideals. They don't care about some of the, you know... But they wasn't raised how I was raised. Do you feel what I'm saying? But if you're kicking game, at some point, I would imagine you don't only want to give game
Starting point is 01:49:05 to people in the inner cities. You want to give game to people who are consuming this culture because they're taking this shit. And when you look at rolling loud, they're not advertising rolling loud in the hood. Right. They're bringing the people from Idaho. Go ahead. The people from like out of the way Connecticut. Iowa, that's becoming the new majority of what hip hop is. Well, that's always been the majority. But you got to talk to them. White people always bought the majority of hip hop records.
Starting point is 01:49:35 That's just facts. You feel what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, that's always been the majority. It just starts. But they listen to him. It just starts in the streets. It starts in them little neighborhoods. It starts, and then it sprinkles out to the suburbs.
Starting point is 01:49:51 The back room, the basement. Right. But at the end of the day, but at the end of the day, But at the end of the day, the biggest supporter of hip hop has always been the white people. They always bought the most records. They ain't by your records, bud. Shit, you're crazy.
Starting point is 01:50:03 You didn't sell no records. You ain't have a record. You're a fucking he's. Now, Joe's definitely, Joe wasn't sold more of you. Yes, he did. Joe, Joe sold more records than him. Oh, now you think. Joe got the biggest song, I told you the song was my song.
Starting point is 01:50:16 First of all. That's a nice time I was going to have a little. I was going to be tight with you. First of all. I never came out on the media record label. Oh, now you want to make excuses? No, I'm just, I'm talking about it. Joe's on a mountain digital.
Starting point is 01:50:28 I iced the shit out of Joe. What fuck is you talking about it? Joe would be about it. Now you're going to lie, you can't fuck with Joe in the Versus. He's fucking crazy. You can't. You can't. You're talking about it.
Starting point is 01:50:35 No way. Hey, you put me and Joe in a fucking rap battle. I sweep Joe fucking buttons under a fucking rug. Fuck are you talking about. Stop it. Yeah. You don't believe that. I got Joe Winning him.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Do you believe that? I believe Joe Buttons could outwrap me. Yeah. Come on. Man, you got life. Joe and smoked this shit out of you. That one song, that one song. You got like fucked up.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Your career came out of to one song yet. You're like fucked up, man. You put me and Joe. Yo, listen, me and Joe Buns could do a rap battle, right? And they can give me, they can give me a heavy ticket. And they can't get him a heavy ticket. And if I don't win, I give him half of my fucking ticket. Fucker you talk about, man.
Starting point is 01:51:14 But we go smack. No, you can't fuck with you. You got light fucked up. That's how you know you ain't grow up nowhere near Philadelphia. Now, you can't. No, I'm not saying you can't answer. You grow up anywhere near, Philly. you wouldn't even be talking like that.
Starting point is 01:51:25 Fuck is you talking about my mouthpiece is impecc. Why are you acting like Joe, not that nigga, though? Joe is not that nigga. What are you talking about? He's all right. In a rap battle? We're not talking about. A fucker you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:51:35 No, no, no, no. Because he did a shit. He did the shit where he was in a house before, so we don't know. It got to be on beat because like. I don't give a fuck of his own and off. The fuck are you talking about. You didn't just see me or sway in the morning on beat? What the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:51:52 And I see Joe, Joe Bonan on a green. Lantern joined those crazy Did you ever listen to any of his music Gil music? Yeah the one way You're off of him of course Oh thank you see That was my hot as shit though
Starting point is 01:52:01 This shit Wayne That's a bum see Everybody know he know the secrets About what happened Shout to Joe button though I would sweep you out to the rug Digger Hey listen
Starting point is 01:52:09 Are y'all cool with my nigga Joe though Yeah Ain't no problem with Joe I think one time I think he'd tap child up With the podcast game You know what I mean This podcast game
Starting point is 01:52:18 This is yonder's ago You know what I'm Tap child up You know what I mean? Tats child up you know what I mean? Make sure what? He did what? Yeah, I was in, you know what?
Starting point is 01:52:26 You know what? You was getting your business mind. Oh, no, our business was always cool, though. Our shit was cool. Always on my shit. We always on. Look at our trademarks. Look at all that shit.
Starting point is 01:52:34 Our shit been foul. We own our shit. We own our shit. Nick, David just sent me the copy of the shit. They ain't seen you nothing. Dave ain't sent you nothing. Dave ain't sent you shit. We hold our shit.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Dave going to tell you, no, no. Them motherfuckers. Them nakers is moving exponentially. Yeah. That's four times the normal rate for you, niggas, that don't know. But I can say this, though, you know, I feel like I'm like the newest and probably the rookie in the podcasting game. Spotify gave you $14 million. Right.
Starting point is 01:53:04 I mean, how many years? Whoa, what are you talking about? See, now he's spending. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, who told you even that number? I'm worried about this. Oh, let me tell this. There's fictional numbers going around. No, no, that's my guy.
Starting point is 01:53:18 That's my guy. I'm just playing Courtney. I'm just playing. I'll just play it. No, listen, people don't understand this POSG game is serious. I don't think they understand the finance you and the business side of it. Yeah, next time you talk about my fucking business out there, nigga. I don't want cameras go off, nigga.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Yeah, you said some things about some money. Man, I heard about the money. I heard about the money. That's why I talked about your money because you threw some shit out there early, but that's another story. But you see, you lock when I said 14. I know. Listen, you know, I know the whole industry.
Starting point is 01:53:44 I'm about 14 was too little. Talk happy. Talk heavy. Talk heavy. He's talking that shit. I'm capping, man. I already know you capped. I know what's going on. What?
Starting point is 01:53:50 I said 14 million was too little, okay. Wait, wait, wait. Did I pay like that with Barsall's? Shit, bars still do us right, nigga. I don't know. I see, I see, I said, we got 14 million. I ain't saying, what the fuck we got. I seen Carl Daddy was over there and called Daddy.
Starting point is 01:54:04 He said, I had to death. Call a Daddy one got $60 million. Yeah, I heard it was only getting $6 million before. No, we're not going to say all that. I don't know what you're a business. You are a messy nigger, man. You all the niggas. You own all your shit.
Starting point is 01:54:16 We own our shit. 100%. Yes. Yes. You posit about this. just get shit so if y'all leave y'all gonna bring your shit
Starting point is 01:54:24 is water wet is a pig's pussy pork you own our shit the only reason I ask is that I believe the game of podcasting the companies that are doing business now
Starting point is 01:54:35 like for example Spotify bars soles otherwise they are armed with more information to say shit we got some leverage if these things want
Starting point is 01:54:44 in the bag we won't take some ownership like it's changed since since that you know and I think you don't mean that's you got to have real leverage, y'all. And a lot of podcasts,
Starting point is 01:54:52 a lot of people starting, they're just doing it, and a lot of people don't have leverage. What's the top five hip-hop podcast? Let's get it to. Number one is million dollars worth a game. Number two is, uh, are you, you hip-hop podcast? No, drink champs. Drink champs. Well, listen, if I don't make the top five, I'm right. No, no, no, no. You're not going to make new fucking top five.
Starting point is 01:55:12 What? Yes, he is. You crazy is. Yes, he is. Yeah, I can't. Game, drink champs. No jumpers. Oh, I'm throwing big facts in there. Big facts. Oh, big facts is major. And we want to put you five.
Starting point is 01:55:29 That's because your numbers. How are you going to not put Joe there? I mean, Joe talk about a bunch of shit I don't agree with. But no, it don't got anything to do with hip hop though. Joe is, Joe is a legend in the game. He just like to talk shit, you don't know. Because he know you'll beat him in rap, Joe. That's all the shit's about.
Starting point is 01:55:44 That rap shit tipp with his fanny. No, Joe wasn't there. I'm just fucking with you. I knew you was going to say that. I thought Joe was the number one podcast. She, you got me fucked up. Hip hop. How?
Starting point is 01:55:54 Fuck, we don't exist. Two, three. Now, drink championships is heaven. They got that Kanye shit, man. Okay. That's how people. Listen, we ain't got no podcast beef. We ain't, no podcast beef.
Starting point is 01:56:07 You know who run this shit. I listen to everybody, but I like how. Fuck you talking about. I was saying to y'all, I like how y'all go get the content. Hey, no fucking beefs, but. Hold on. Matter of fact, we number one right now. Hell.
Starting point is 01:56:20 That's a screenshot, nigga. There ain't no motherfucking screenshot. That's a screenshot. That's a screenshot. That's a screenshot. That's a screenshot. There ain't no screenshot. There ain't no screenshot.
Starting point is 01:56:28 Look. What are you talking about? That ain't no, that ain't no fucking screenshot, man. That ain't no, that's a drink chance. Hold on, hold on, wait. We never want to drink. Yo.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Who got the number one episode? But listen, who got the number one episode? Top shows. He probably took a break. He probably took a little week off. Shows. What about who got the top episode? Nah, come on now.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Listen, let me say this, though, say this, though, on some real shit, we might laughing, Joe. Yeah, yeah. The bottom line is that when you say music, the culture is running that shit in the podcast space of music. You see us, you see Joe. You see, there's one with MFD, you see Mollett, what's the name? Hey, hey, listen, listen.
Starting point is 01:57:04 You see us. And it's about that. And we all do different things. You see, you see, did I call it? You see Maul Roy and Mar. You see no jumper. Stop hating on my home, Roy. This is a weak-ass list, man.
Starting point is 01:57:15 Like I'm like, yo, go to the Spotify list. No, go to the Spotify list. Let's see what's popping over there. You see, let me see. Nigger, you tweaking. Oh, but. Hey, you're actually doing your thing. No, they're the leading.
Starting point is 01:57:28 You're doing your thing. They're the leading outlet in podcast listeners. We salute you. Why they deleting it? No, they're deleting. So there's more people that listen to podcasts on Spotify than on Apple. So if you're not showing that Spotify charts, I don't know what we're talking about. Yeah, I mean, we know you did you deal with Spotify.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Yeah, they got here. Like them on. They didn't promote me. I'm too extraded for them, you know what I mean? We know you did you deal with Spotify. We know, dog. You ain't got to keep, you know, putting it on Spotify. I mean, we had bars to wait.
Starting point is 01:57:58 Shout out to Dave, Portland, or. If y'all come, Dave, get a part of a deal? And Eric, uh, huh? We own our shit. We own our shit. We own our shit. What are you talking about, man? Y'all got to buy your masses back in another, right?
Starting point is 01:58:11 I'm just, hey, inquire minds. I'll be just sitting at home listening to everybody, John, figured out. Yeah, he looked at the regis. He cut that shit off. I don't need to go to Spotify. I don't got Spotify. Yeah, you got to pull it up. Oh, are you going to show you? I'll show you. He just want to show where he is. You know, he'll get a chance to be on Apple.
Starting point is 01:58:28 They will amplify him. They will amplify him anyway because he's on the machine. He'll get a chance to be on Apple. So you're going to get all these recommendations anyway, at. Nah, they don't give me a recommendation. That's the fucking they do inside of the system of, they do a recommendation joint. So they might say, if you listen to this, you listen. They're going to recommend you anyway. Right. What you're talking about?
Starting point is 01:58:43 No. Right. No. Yes. Come on. They recommend you in the skin, man. You can't even pull the shit up.
Starting point is 01:58:50 Hold on. First of all, that's not even a, that's just a playlist of music. I don't know why they got that on there. But yeah, we got, where y'all at?
Starting point is 01:58:58 Are we right there? We on both charts. Okay. In top ten on both. I see y'all. I see y'all. We're talking about we and fuck through he be. What?
Starting point is 01:59:08 At the end of the day, at the end of the day, it's not no competition. We're in the game. There's so many people watching us. I'm not a hater. I always say, I give a few people,
Starting point is 01:59:15 like credit as kind of ushering in a wave especially for music, I always go, even though me and this thing I had problems before, Peter Rosenberg, Wad Epstein, you know, got to do Combat Jack. He's a legend. And Free my God, man.
Starting point is 01:59:31 And Norrie knew you got, you got, Joe, they legends of this game. Exactly. Like, them dudes created late. Go ahead, tax. Oh, yeah, Tax. Don't forget Tax. Can't forget Tax, man.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Tax Stone was the first Techstone was the first God that brought you to his podcast brought me to his podcast before I even knew what the fucking podcast was like me ain't come up him like what the fuck is that
Starting point is 01:59:54 he like it's like a radio show man I'm gonna be chopped it up with him that was years ago so shout out the tax Can I call Joe the squashy beef now? We ain't got no beef fuck you talking We ain't got a beef with Joe
Starting point is 02:00:05 Why you keep saying that Doug? All right man Listen to you don't get I just talk a little shit I don't know he talk We talk shit He's a shit talking
Starting point is 02:00:13 I don't get me too I ain't got no beef with Joe, man. You can call Joe if you want. Joe better rapper than he. That's only he can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucker, you're talking about. Call Joe about that.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Call him right now. Call him right now. I'm fucking Joe don't respect that dick a little more. Complex's over. That's like Joe told him getting rid of that, he's small fry. I already used to live with Joe too, man.
Starting point is 02:00:31 He used to live in Joe house too, man. Joe can't get him off a complex. Huh? How long do you live with Joe? No, that's the other dude that was high in detergent. That's not me, brother. Oh, stop hating on more, more. I ain't going to go over there.
Starting point is 02:00:42 I don't beat you to fuck down. I don't know what the fuck out of it. How do you know what was in? How you know what was him? No, because that's what Joe said. Come on with the dumb shit. You shoot that. Nick, he was high in the turkey.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Come on, you respect to the man. I may ask you a question. No, I'm dumb. He really jealous because Joe left him for Maw and Rory. That's what you're jealous. No, you jealous. No, you jealous. They got the own show.
Starting point is 02:01:02 They got the back from who. Nguer, you know what I know the game. They got back from who? Who? Do you just made the announcement? From who? Stetcher? You can't even say the name right.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Why are you hating all those niggas Because they get them He's jealous I don't say nothing I'm going to say nothing He's a podcast He made because Joe cheated on him They tried to pull back up to Spotify
Starting point is 02:01:26 After they slanted them with Joe They want no parts So you executive of Spotify I'm asking you executive I don't know what you're talking about I know what's going on Now he knows what's going on Now he knows what's going on
Starting point is 02:01:36 Now there's a lot of people out here that watch podcasts That want to be in a podcast game That's doing anything What would you ask? What would you tell them to look for if they got leverage? Because a lot of people ain't got no leverage. They ain't got the numbers.
Starting point is 02:01:48 If they got leverage, tell them what to ask for when going to make a podcast deal. Tell them. Number one, ownership makes you maintain. The first thing is, you know, you want to, hopefully you already have a podcast. Like my situation was a little tricky, right? I didn't have a podcast before going there. So you had an audience. Right, but I had an audience.
Starting point is 02:02:08 So I had something to leverage. The first thing you want to do, especially if you have a podcast going in, is saying, hey, listen, I own my podcast before. want to own it while I'm here and I want to own it while when I leave if I leave so that's probably the main important thing right um second thing I'm gonna be honest with you you want splits if you could get ad rev so with a podcast network they're gonna claim they're gonna give you promotion but a lot of a lot of times when it come to brown and black people they can't promote you in in the hood and in the culture better than you can so they're gonna just they're
Starting point is 02:02:41 going to do some quote quote marketing but it ain't going to hit the people that when you do some good shit you're going to hit so that's all smoke commerce so the real worth is them bringing ads to you them connecting you with you know what I mean when you're reading out the the new Amsterdam and I see nice see I just stomp all y'all shit I big did it up that's where they're going to come at if you could and you have the leverage be like yo listen I need a percentage of that what they're going to try to do is say hey we're going to give you a general fee Or we're going to just bake it in as an all-in. Hey, we know you money-hungry.
Starting point is 02:03:16 Hey, we'll give you this all-in. Right now. But now you don't realize a sales team already assessed that we could run, let's just throw our random numbers. We can run $2 million worth of ads on their show. But they offered you the all-in for the million. $2 million ad on the show for the year. For the year.
Starting point is 02:03:36 And by the way, that's a lot still. That's a lot. We're thinking about nobody. Come on. Y'all ain't seen the ad numbers. I know they ain't shown you all that shit. What? Now, Dave ain't shown you all that.
Starting point is 02:03:47 Listen, listen, you keep talking about Dave. Nah, he's not showing you that. Listen, let me explain something to you. Two million. That's for one ad company. That's nothing, bro. I'm going to tell you some shit when it's, when it's shit old. That's not no money.
Starting point is 02:04:01 Two million for a year. You're talking about from one brand. You ain't talking about from. That's still not. I'm going to break something down to you. No, no, no. I'm just giving random arbitrary numbers, right? so think about it
Starting point is 02:04:11 let's say it's just two million dollars right but they signed you for a million they own your content they're about to license it they're about to do all type of stuff with it they're going to monetize it on you they're going to step on that shit
Starting point is 02:04:22 basically they paid you a million and the content that you about to give them for that year is about it's going to make them five or more they're in a win so whatever they offer you
Starting point is 02:04:35 you have to be thinking how you can get more and also you got to think about how you believe in yourself Some people look at podcasts as I'm getting a bag. All in fees is going to, of course, entice you. You also got a production, a production budget. Don't forget that.
Starting point is 02:04:48 Ask for that. Yeah. If you can, you want to produce your podcast yourself because you got to make the product. Like we do. You produce it yourself, that's going to be a whole different budget other than your talent fee. You get me? So if you get part of the ads, you have a talent fee. Listen, y'all.
Starting point is 02:05:03 You get me? For some people who could even finesse and negotiate, if you had maybe a pride network or something like that, You could also maybe put in that they got to pay your EP fee And other fees that goes into the production Not only just the raw production cost But that might roll up into it Listen By the time you're done negotiating with them
Starting point is 02:05:23 You could probably get a hefty bag And also if you got leverage Of course if you got leverage Got to have numbers Right And I'm gonna be honest They're gonna play the leverage game as well Because some company's gonna be like
Starting point is 02:05:34 Well, nigga we got all We'll give you the money But don't start talking that own shit Because we'll give the money to somebody else No, but, you know, Spotify offer you a bag Does somebody come, I ain't gonna, you know, there's somebody else coming out for you Way more money than you?
Starting point is 02:05:47 Listen, I love Spotify, number one, right? But number two, when it came to my negotiation, there was some super, there was competitors in the market that they knew of, that, um, heavy hitters. And, you know, they came correct on the things we wanted
Starting point is 02:06:04 for us to close. You know? So, you wanted to be at Spotify, though. But I wanted to be there But of course I was gonna be there If I ain't on my shit
Starting point is 02:06:11 Right You got guaranteed money Right Of course Just making sure Of course Y'all got guaranteed money Yeah, you got
Starting point is 02:06:17 A-Ref I got some shit in there Okay I'm just making sure Man I'm making sure you are So listen man I couldn't negotiate
Starting point is 02:06:23 You appreciate your deal For you I can negotiate this Hey Hey listen man You gave up a lot Of the best With me
Starting point is 02:06:29 Yeah I had the best of the best I was going to have With you though Who Who? Who you had See the guy
Starting point is 02:06:35 With you? Nah I took a meeting I took a meeting I took a meeting with his podcast network. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know. You got some people. I know some, matter of fact.
Starting point is 02:06:45 By the way, salutes, what Charlemagne's doing, I'm hopefully, I hope. You know, he do a lot of things that I aspire to do. I want to do a podcast. You see this whole space, you see, I'm getting. I know what you're doing. We know what you're doing. You already know what you're doing, the porn Ojoin over there. Yeah, unbelievable porn scene.
Starting point is 02:06:59 You think I'm mad at him 22. I'm black. I'm black. That's what he doing. He told me making some bread off of that, man. I might have to get to this. Only fans. You ever see some of the checks in there?
Starting point is 02:07:11 I know. I seen the checks. Crazy. Yo, I see money. He'll be in there looking chocolate off bitch's back. So I'll only fans. I'll do that. I'll do that.
Starting point is 02:07:19 Yo, my nigga, he got this girl on there. Respectfully. Yeah. Shit, there's so much, yo, there's so much money to be made out here. Let me just tell you something. Ain't enough buddy or my fuck
Starting point is 02:07:29 only fans for two. They got to run rebounds. God, they're giving out some checks on that. Oh, fuck. Well, they'll hone you down right now. Let me tell you something. Two hit only fans. Shit, I won't be the only man.
Starting point is 02:07:46 I'll be the fuck gone. He still got more. He still got more. Yeah, but hold on. The time is changing, though. Shit, we old school, fuck as you talk. Times don't change for old school, niggas. You know there's a bunch of rappers on there, right?
Starting point is 02:07:59 I don't get fuck. Tygo on there fucking mad chicks. Tygo on Only fans? Yeah, you fucking like at least 46s on there. Three-sum's, everything. You're watching Tyke. I mean, I was watching a video with some beautiful woman and I see a nigger who looked
Starting point is 02:08:12 like Tyga, I wasn't really trying to look at him. How you know it's Tiger? You just saying he looked like Tiger. I think I know how a nigga face looked like. Would you think I recognize his dick? Yo, come on. You just said, you just said Somebody who's somebody that looked like Tiger. No, I don't recognize Dix though. He didn't fuck out of him.
Starting point is 02:08:27 Oh, you recognized his? He was a dick recognizable. Oh, that's that sour shit. Y'all too flexible, man. He was a dick recognized. You know, he was a dick recognized. You know, he was flexible. And Jill, he was a dick recognized.
Starting point is 02:08:36 Oh, you're flexible. Oh, hell not. Y'all too flexible dudes. Hey, what are you serving time, man? It don't even matter. You're flexible, man. Nah, man. You're real flexible.
Starting point is 02:08:45 A little pump on there, too. But they say you owe some taxes. Yo, you went anybody's shit. I'm in everybody's business. I ain't what I do. Wait, little punk got the only fans? Yeah, he over there fucking a bunch of chicks too. But you got to imagine.
Starting point is 02:08:56 In that part of their career, if you could make, and I'm just throwing out numbers, let's say if you can make $600,000 a month. Minimal work. You're making off your name. People just have intrigue. Tiger came on a breakfast club said he never got paid from his music. You just made $6 million off some shit.
Starting point is 02:09:18 For some people, it might make sense. Music these days, like, what every rapper, like, you know why all these rappers are getting the NFTs? I don't know if you are in that space here. You know what? All these rappers not get no money. Like, I heard even Mika on y'all shit,
Starting point is 02:09:31 said he hasn't got, he hasn't got paid for music. Music is not paying people no more. Once they turn this shit into stream, that's why they already got, everybody in 360 deal because the brand deals you don't get the money just not from the music the money from the music is going to go to the label because all these niggies that they're living in some inflated lifestyle they all fly private jets they're all running up the debt with the label the label's looking at like so okay good so we're giving you this loan you know
Starting point is 02:09:56 you ain't never going to get paid you fly first class who me coach I try to I try to fly first class if it's over six hour flight over like three four actually now there's two you you'll go coach yeah you somebody took a picture me and coach the day. I thought they thought it was going to blow up. Like, nigga, I'm not, I'm not one of the niggins who flexing like I'm on a private. Yeah. I never paid for, like, I googled it, though. Y'all flew private?
Starting point is 02:10:17 No, fuck no. I know from private. Stop for what. Right, private first class. That's all the rhymes that Wayne don't wrote for you and then flew private with him. Yeah, I flew private before, but not with Wayne. You never paid for it, though. No, fuck no.
Starting point is 02:10:30 I'm paying for no private. You pay for first class, though. First class is different than private, though. First class, I'm always, I live in first class. I don't live in private. They took a picture of me because, you know, I was drooling. You were asleep drooling? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was bad.
Starting point is 02:10:45 It was bad. And where did it go? They did it's not an ass dick of academics. Yo, they violate you because I talked to it. You know, people are so foul, but that's what happens when you see people like in person versus online, super nice person. I mean, I had a middle seat. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:10:56 They didn't be wrong, right? You did. Right, so like, listen, man. You didn't too much money being in a middle seat, man. You damn right, but listen, we booked the flight two hours before. What could I do? You know what's either you did not come back or wait some time because you got your your luxurious experience you want.
Starting point is 02:11:08 I got to move, right? So I'm sitting between these people. Now, listen, man, I'm not the smallest nigga. You know, also I was tired as fuck. So I think my head was on the shoulder a little bit, but I was drooling. The nigga took a video of me right here on the shoulder, drew like the moment. He said, look at this fatt-ass nigger right here, sucking up all the head in this plane. Vollated me, man.
Starting point is 02:11:27 And by the way, and, like, he was nice to me like in person because he woke me up, oh, we landed. I'm like, oh, shit, oh, shit. You pulled and took that and posted that. Right. And made fun of yourself. Make fun of myself. Yeah. Yeah, man, it's life.
Starting point is 02:11:38 Because you're talking about that's life. And I make fun of myself, though. It's cool. You can't be so serious. Yeah, you know that ass naked. I mean? I learned about that from, like, Soldier, though. Like, Soldier Boy, kind of, I think he made fun of me one time, and I took it serious.
Starting point is 02:11:53 And I was like, yo, I realized how stupid I looked. I was like, because I make fun of people hoping they would take it the way I wanted to take it. But it's different when the shoes on the other foot. Now, let me ask you a question. Who the top rappers in the game and why? Top rappers in the game. We got to say, number one, I'm going. And be a young boy.
Starting point is 02:12:10 Best rapper in the game. Not best, but top. And what I mean top rapper is that? What is you judging by? Is you judging by numbers, YouTube, Instagram? He's not on the gram. I'm judging by strictly the mere fact that it's all organic. And who number two?
Starting point is 02:12:24 I thought nothing was organic. Everything got digital marketing on it. If you see how he moves, it's hard for the label to do. Like, I talk to his label. His label would be like, yo, he do what he wants. We tell him don't do shit. We tell him no more albums. And he's like, nope.
Starting point is 02:12:37 album again. That's why, you know, obviously on the business side, it kind of hurts him because like when you're saying, hey, well, I drop three albums, they said, Nicky, we told you only drop one. We ain't credit you for two. So it kind of hurts him sometimes, but it keeps up that organic buzz. You walk around like, you know, anywhere in middle America, any inner city, you're going to see a lot of these kids who look up to him like he's a voice of their generation. I think that's very important. I got to go with my man, little baby. I think when it comes to, you know, putting, you know, melody and swag and, you know, having a street component and, and definitely lyrics together number three little dirk i think little dirk is giving people
Starting point is 02:13:16 a reality dirky oh he's he's giving you're big as groupie oh really yeah now he's given people a look into reality where you know it's a little bit honestly i'm gonna say it borderlines what we what people loved but even hated about like when drill was drill because he only rapping about real shit if you listen to his lyrics and you follow his situations he only raping about real shit you're not rapping about nothing fictional four all right
Starting point is 02:13:47 four we just told him out is it the hottest man we ask you your top five could I put Drake in there or is like we know you're in love with Drake nigga yeah I ain't love with Drake man yes you is nigga you want love with Drake my nigga
Starting point is 02:14:03 Jake my nigga man I'm not gonna count him I'm not going to come because I want to give the new artist, you know, some Sean. I'm going to put Uzi in there, man. Okay. I'm going to put Uzi in there. I just feel like to this day, I feel like his music, he's learning to evolve in his own way. You know, he's not a traditional mainstream artist, but his music is still connect with the youth. And I think he's learning to get the respect of the people who, you remember when he went on a 97-chop playing for his lyricism.
Starting point is 02:14:32 These days he drops records, he show you that he can rap. He show you why he's Philly. I'm going to put him there. Five. Five. Damn. Man, there's so many people who pass away to. I would have easily filled that spot, whether it was X, Pop Smoke, no juice, or other people.
Starting point is 02:14:53 But for five, and I'm going with current living people. I'm going to go with money bag, yo, man. That's a good choice. Fire. I'm, fuck you mean why. No, I'm exactly. He broke everybody's shit down, though. I'm just, you know, my God.
Starting point is 02:15:12 He's heard that nigga bars. But he broke everybody down. Go ahead. Yo, Moneybag, yo, has, like, this unique ability of just kind of like, it's packaging for me. You know, like, he's not saying nothing that nobody ever said. But, like, the way he says it and the way how it kind of comes across, like, not only is believable, it's always, like, it fit those criteria of, like, you always want to sing. always memorable now now you you dropped mostly the younger dudes what's the name yeah i want five of like motherfuckers like the gates the thugs the uh the futures the 21s and all you know
Starting point is 02:15:48 everybody else is out there that's outside of that yeah who 21 i think that self-explanatory i feel like yo 21 is kind of given a um a whole blueprint of and when it comes to like you know artists who like for example when i see an ardor wick i feel like like, it remind me 21. Mm-hmm. You know? So, like,
Starting point is 02:16:09 I feel like 21's his own thing, quality over quantity. He's super, like super streets, super connected, but also he understands
Starting point is 02:16:18 music. Someone put them in there. Too. I got to throw thug. That's my nigga. Thug was probably going to be one. But, but really is like...
Starting point is 02:16:25 Thug got my favorite record right now. What's the one? Because I love you more than anything. So, so I got to put Thug in it because Thug, you know,
Starting point is 02:16:36 This is like influence right here. Thug is like, I love every, I love his growth. No, number one, he's one of the best musicians, period. Mm-hmm. But, like, rapping, amazing. But I think, like, his style and how humbly is to, like, let other people build off of his shit. It reminded me of Kanye, back when, back when Kanye kind of started doing some experimental shit and other people took it and took it in their own direction.
Starting point is 02:16:59 I see a lot of people who take influence from Thug. And I see Thug support them or Thug try to, like, help them in some type of way. reminds me of what Gucci would have done. Right. So... Three. All right. Let me see who else.
Starting point is 02:17:16 We ain't just talking about Atlanta niggas, right? No, nigger, we're talking about the game. I got to go with, like, I still got to go with, like, Kendrick. Okay. Kendrick Drake? Five. And, um... I know the easy thing we just throwing cold, but I got to go with Future, man.
Starting point is 02:17:34 Future? Like, your future is literally The future is going to go down It's probably When you think about how important One artist is to a city He's probably the most important artist For his city
Starting point is 02:17:49 Compared to any other artists for their city I agree with that And I think that's like a nod That you can't ever disrespect Real talk You know? Real talk I think Gucci man got that same type of respect
Starting point is 02:18:02 Yeah, yeah Yeah 100%. Gucci put a lot of niggas on. You know, you say what you want about Gucci, but Gucci responsible for a lot of niggas. And to me, that's the true testament of your motherfucking, of your legacy.
Starting point is 02:18:14 How many niggas you help. How many niggas you pulled about the water? How many niggas you gave an opportunity to be great in life? So, you know, shout out to Gucci man, too. But, act, we appreciate you for coming on. It's the longest motherfucking podcast we ever did in life, man. No, meek was longer.
Starting point is 02:18:28 He was? Yeah. Good. How long was me? Uh, 2.30, uh, 2-hant-oh. Oh, shit. We do the hour. This is two hours and 15 minutes.
Starting point is 02:18:36 For real? You don't have to do all that long drawing. I'll be doing three hours, four hours. You know, you're a Joe Button student. Yeah, you'd be drinking beer all the time. I don't do you know. I don't drink. You drink 40s.
Starting point is 02:18:47 Drink beer, snook, and talk about shit for three hours. I don't know who snore coke. Don't know. Don't let me with that. One of y'all had to be like a pillhead or a dusthead. One of your hunting. You smoke. You just smoke wet.
Starting point is 02:18:59 You just smoke to get straight, get butt-knacket. You smoke that PCP. Hey, I just put this. You were this from Jersey? Well, I mean, I'm born in Jamaica, but I came over there. New Jersey Drive. He was a car thief. I mean, no, no, I'm a screw of here.
Starting point is 02:19:11 He was a car thief, no. New Jersey Drive. Uh-huh. Shout out of all my Jersey people, man. We were still a Honda's out. You know what? Shout out of all you, Honda is still in Jersey, niggas. Well, who's still a guy?
Starting point is 02:19:21 He didn't know about New Jersey Drive. You never seen the movie? I never watched it. Oh, my God. Get this thing out of here. Send this nigga back to Jamaica. Send his mood that fuck out back to Jamaica. Me don't know the dime's called.
Starting point is 02:19:31 It's Africa, nigger. That's Africa. Me, you don't know the damn face. You want to scroll face. You found them to die themselves. What's your favorite American artist? A Vox Cartel. Voscarat's my favorite artist all time, ever.
Starting point is 02:19:41 Okay. Speak pot-wide, nigger. Dog, how are we at table, dog? You'll be talking to me talking to, dog. You'll be buying a Spanish tone in Jamaica. I'm going to grow up in a clarendon before we move over there. You know a couple of things. He don't know.
Starting point is 02:19:53 He does. My favorite artist is all time is Jamaican artist. I think he's the best artist. There's no other artist on this earth that even comes within a centimeter. A centimeter of him. And it's Vibs Cartel. You know, he currently incarcerated for, like, a murder or whatever. But, you know, when it comes to, like, you know, actually living your craft also being the best at everything, he was the best dude with melodies, the best dude with, you know, bars or lyrics or whatever.
Starting point is 02:20:19 He was always somebody who pushed the culture forward. And the culture to this day, like, he's in prison. He still put out music. It still lives on his back. The greatest artists, I've never seen any artists have more influence. on a genre and I'm talking about I don't care if you could say Bob Marley Elvis Beatles vibes cartel and his influence on Jamaican music at least contempt than Bob I can get the fuck out of here more the boy boy more let's talk about
Starting point is 02:20:46 my boy get you get your light ass out of here boy with you know more than Bob Marley my Marley's influence world like vibe cartels but he didn't know better than fucking my marley's influences worldwide what of course now Bob Marley's influences worldwide. But Bob Marley don't talk to those youths in the garrison. You want me to listen to this shit.
Starting point is 02:21:06 You don't talk to the ghetto people like how, just like how you say certain artists, like how meek probably you say talk to things in the trenches, there's been no artists. You say Bob Marley. You want me to listen to this shit? I tell you.
Starting point is 02:21:15 I tell you you cut me to fuck off the list of this shit. He wasn't fucking living when Bob Marley was out. He don't know who the fuck Bob Marley talked to. He wasn't fucking living when Bob Marley was doing a stick. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Don't put me against another Jamaican artist.
Starting point is 02:21:29 I love him. Let me just tell by some American artists or something shit. For Ronnie Marley, cut you out here and bless you to fuck home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, play this. Play this.
Starting point is 02:21:37 Whatever influence you, I think Jay Z had on hip-hop, he ain't had for what cartel had on dance on. Facts. Personally, I think Tupac had, I think Dr. Dries is the most influential nigger. I think,
Starting point is 02:21:48 there's Tupac-esque level. There's Tupac-Marl is the most influential nigga in hip-hop of all time. But that's just me. You know what I mean? But we appreciate you for coming through shot that vibes cartel.
Starting point is 02:21:58 Free that man. But you damn show one fucking with Bob Marley you hear me and it's just like that right

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