Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 143: FEATURING DJ AKADEMIKS
Episode Date: December 6, 2021FEAT DJ AKADEMIKSYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mworthofgame...
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Right.
Oh, my God, Jake, you made this?
Right?
Do I want to.
Can you know to dance?
Of course, nigga.
I got to see the bottle.
Let's see the bottle.
Alright, you better get your stack-ass, somebody.
Yeah, yeah.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Let's go, go, come on.
We'll be here on Shima and nigga sock.
Come on.
All these rap is acting like the pay.
We know that he broke.
Saying he the hottest in the city.
It must be jokes.
No verse me like Clarence and be rapping.
We know he choked.
I got my own bitch, but I know for Shaw, I make ears deep throat.
Before the pandemic, he wasn't nobody was on.
He lay.
Expey rapper.
They ain't a job and more because he loved digging great.
He don't know his role.
He ain't a hustling, shooting.
He ain't a way.
wrong move and he got subs out the game he acting tough like he was that dude they hit
his burn all these niggas that's all that cap got you in the time don't do no dissing in
these raps we don't speak or what's his name lalla sticks up in the crib we don't need
alarms and we know that boy a pussy he don't mean no harm I ain't got a move i jop a bag he
won't see them harm and your bitch want me sliding it like bcr I keep a tool like bob
told my mama 15 I don't need no jobs all his ice keep me cold when it's hot and she
won't suck the dick until I tell her stop it how this nigg is in the city
Yeah, they show us love.
You be sliding with them blizzies in them tinted trucks.
You detect the eeep the pussy and don't never fuck.
And I'm the type to fuck off a perk don't never bust.
Do the dash, drive the farm like it stolen.
Way before I had this act, they knew I was the coldest.
Don't you ever pull no gun off?
You ain't really trying to blow it in no X me about no niggas.
I don't be what I don't know him.
Bato!
Bitch, you trap in peace.
Hell of mud, I can pour a big act for weeks.
Get them whack for the cheap by the rack of piece.
I'm a rag.
Like mac and cheese.
Knack and cheese?
This is a mac in jeans?
I swear, baby.
Yeah, like a nice stand.
Bitch, I'm a real nigga.
When the kids leave?
Drunk I hate the other day, I'm still leaving.
He's still people.
Went to the hood for the purse, I got bored with me.
Shoot a goofy in his chest, took a shoulder with me.
All right, let's go.
That's not an idea.
That's not anything in Detroit.
That's not a Philly shit you're doing right there.
shit you do right there that's how we do it man listen man that was that detroit flow
mac and cheese feature in vezzo and there's some more coming that's gonna keep stacking up
but listen you're now tuned into me me me me me me me me million dollars worth a game
yes err it's right get crazy here today's right get crazy in this motherfucker
is ray real crazy here we you know it's ray get crazy here we you know i mean he'd be
acting up we're only jay academics no fucking dj if i don't stop you're not no dj i'm a dj
When the fuck are you DJ a party?
Oh, I have to currently DJ to be a DJ?
Yeah.
Why don't you I get on Dr. Dre's ass because he never did no doctor shit in his life.
At the end of the day, you're not out of me DJ.
Yo, Walo, listen, I've been watching the shit now.
Don't worry about it.
I've been watching this shit.
We're going to deal with the shit.
We're going to deal with the shit.
Yo, I'll be watching, you know, Gilead in a good way and a bad way.
But you, niggins be letting you slide.
I'm not going to let that happen.
Listen, we're going to figure it out.
But at the end of the day, you don't DJ.
You don't DJ.
You ain't seen me at first this, nil?
Listen, and you're a young dude.
You ain't seen me in versus.
That's some old shit.
Did you see me in?
Listen, listen.
Listen, I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about the title of walking around with DJ on your name.
You don't need that.
Nobody had to have that on a name to be a DJ no more.
Hey, hey.
Hey, you're young.
You're too young that had a DJ on you, Joe.
Well, I'm going to be honest with you.
That's like having an MC.
Nah, it's a branding thing at this point.
It's a brand thing.
But you just, you don't use any into say academic.
You don't even say it.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
This court determined if you're a real DJ or not.
Yeah.
How many dollar parties did you DJed your life?
How many parties you doubt dollar parties?
Do you know what the dollar party is?
I ain't never done no dollar parties.
Oh, you ain't a real fucking DJ.
You're not a real DJ.
Yo, I told me on some 90s shit.
Nigel, I was a DJ in the 90s.
I was born in there.
Let me just say this.
All right.
You need a fan.
What's that what I want me to do?
Nicky, y'all think that.
Yo, listen, I always tell niggies, I'm like,
I never carry no crates.
There was never no crates to be done.
Niget, everybody, every shit was on Serrado.
By the time I started DJing.
I was in college.
Listen, my DJ credentials come from me being in college.
Me trying to, nigga, I was never that athletic, clearly, right?
Even though it's in better shape.
I was never that athletic, never that cool, but I still wanted to get some holes.
So me and my homies, who there wasn't in frats, there wasn't playing sports, everything is shut down on my college.
And we said, Rutgers University, right there, New Brunsway.
And we said, let's make part.
What you major then?
Biomathematics.
It got nothing to do with music, but I'm an immigrant, so I came over here.
Shout out to my daughter.
That's where my daughter go, Rutgers.
I came over here with a mindset
I was making $100,000 a year
I had to because I realized college
wasn't no fucking game
How long it'd take you to make that?
Well, I never used my college degree.
But still, you see I had to make $100,000 a year.
Well, I moved into entertainment
and I probably started making that in
I left college 2013, around 2014,
I started.
But I had a regular job
because I didn't know what YouTube was going to be.
What was your regular job?
I was working at Verizon Wallace.
I was like the geek squad there.
Did you ever steal a phone?
I ever still a phone?
Nah, nah.
You ever get somebody free,
so you ever hook somebody up with service?
Man, I was the nigga who like,
the people who actually worked there was like a temp worker.
They would just throw me their computer.
Like, my shit got a virus.
Yo, this shit don't work.
And I would have to fix it.
I was doing bitch work.
Okay.
You get me?
So, like, you know, I was trying to figure it out.
I used to record YouTube videos
trying to cover rap news in the back of my mom's at three.
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i'm saying is you was basically a grunt workers you was you was yeah of course you was a grubbers
you were rising so you know what i mean like i was in college i graduated and and you know for people
who go to college you always hear about four year college man it took me about five of the
years to graduate.
I was trying to pursue.
A bunch of loans?
Man, I graduated with like $140,000 in debt.
You're getting people their money back?
Not paid them back. Gladfully.
You know what I mean?
Good person.
No, well, shit.
If you didn't pay them back, they're going to lock you up.
It was a...
Man, it got to the point.
Anybody who know about student debt,
when you graduate, they give you a six-month grace period.
And I kid you not.
Like, listen, if they put the loan people to find bin Laden or whoever the
else hiding out in the world, they would find them quick.
They used to send me letters every day.
Every day.
I remember one time I asked to try to use a different voice.
I say, yo, who you want?
They send my real name, Livingston Allen.
I said, no, he's at work.
And the person literally said on the phone, like,
I know it's you.
You don't got no job.
We know that.
So, like, that's Sally Mae, by the way.
Anybody who ever went to college,
Sally Mae is all good until six months after you graduate.
I couldn't wait to get them off my back
because another thing, like, you know what I mean,
I had to grow up.
You know what I was the first person
to leave my mom's house, had to grow up.
up. Growing up, for me meant me realizing that me making a minimum payments on the student
loan debt wasn't doing nothing. I felt like the money looked the same every time I logged in.
And you know, by the grace of God, the entertainment thing worked out, and I was able to pay that off.
You know, and I always say that I had that mindset going in, but I always say that any college kid
and then you should say to your daughter, I found myself as a man in college, so I chalk up that
$150,000 in debt to me finding myself as a man, but this is a business.
And I've looked at everything as a business
Because a lot of times people look at shit
As experiences that you're taking out loans on
I've never ever looked at shit since then
It's serious business to me
All right well listen get that get that New Amsterdam
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Absolutely this episode of million dollars worth of game
It's vote to you by New Amsterdam Baca
Life ain't going your way
Shot of New Amsterdam Baca
New Amsterdam
You know
I fuck with New Amsterdam
I used to drink in college
You did?
You know, I've been, hey, really weird story.
We don't get you some cases.
No, you should.
I need you not get some to the studio.
Absolutely.
Hey, listen, really affordable alcohol.
I used to drink it because we used to try to.
Remember, yo, this is all the story of a young kid.
I never really got my feet underneath me.
I was born in Jamaica.
I was looked at this weird Jamaican kid in middle school and high school.
Never really had friends because everybody was friends since kindergarten.
I go to a college and I finally get a new start.
And I wasn't athletic, wasn't this and third, but I was trying to,
find my way and trying to have experiences like anybody else.
And yeah, we start throwing parties.
You know what I mean?
Shit.
New Amsterdam was a drink of choice.
Absolutely.
Affordable.
It did the job taste good.
Shit,
we were running that junk like it was going out of style.
When it came out with flavors, holy, I was going in.
Let me take some.
This is still five times.
It's filtered three times for a clean crisp finish.
And you can drink it straight up.
You can drink it on the rocks.
Amsterdam mule.
You can make a classic New Amsterdam mule.
Shout out to New Amsterdam Queen.
My wife be at the crib with the little lady.
you know, doing the cocktails and
it'll just enjoy life.
So when you out and about it,
I got a little looking for,
get you some new Hampshire than him.
I got the coconut right now
with the crib, did you not?
You love coconut Amson.
We're going to lace him.
We're going to lace you.
We're going to leave them.
Oh, what?
I appreciate that.
Because, you know, he got a whole porno set here.
You know, y'all don't know.
You know, you all know what type.
That joint was laid out too soft.
That shit was like some 80s mixed up modern.
That joint.
Because you don't need the couch
if you're shooting in the joint.
Walo, it's by having a plush and
I know you used some prison benches and shit in a cafeteria like metal jazz, my dog.
But they don't have nothing to do when you're seeing that.
That's the scene.
That was a scene.
I could have some people on the couch.
You never seen how it was stirred up?
That's a scene.
That was a scene, man.
Hey, yo, I really want to, I want y'all to get a better understanding me because I think I'm the most misunderstood person probably in hip hop culture.
You know, people usually having a pain about me based on one little thing, but nobody ever really engages me to have a conversation.
So when y'all hit me up like, yo, you want to pop on?
Of course.
Do you think, I'm going to say this.
As a journalist, you're a journalist, right?
You're honest journalist, right?
I don't consider myself a journalist.
I'm going to tell you why.
I do believe things I do fall in line with what journalists are expected to do,
but I wouldn't call myself a journalist because there's the people who claim they
went to school for this and third.
They're going to say, I don't follow the protocols.
So for example.
Doing your research on the information and all that stuff.
And there's a lot of times.
I mix, I'll tell you what's fact, but I also lace it with opinion.
You know, I'm an opinionated person.
And a lot of times, you know, if you're following journalism,
you're supposed to be super cut and dry,
or if it's an opinion piece is just an opinion piece.
You know what I mean?
I think I'm with a personality.
I just think I'm a human.
All right.
Is you a reporter?
Yes.
Do you believe that you're reporting of Chicago?
Right into it.
I like it.
Listen, as Chicago, I'm just saying.
Yeah.
Do you believe, and I'm talking about you,
we're not talking about nobody else,
that you're reporting in your,
And the way that you amplify certain individuals created a crown wave?
No, no, no, no. Add it to the crime wave.
Add it to it. I'm just saying, like, but the reason I say created it because, you know, if you,
if certain people feel as though they this, it's going to put targets on their head and they're going to feel bigger,
and it's going to start because you was doing a lot of reporting.
Yeah.
What do you, do you, be honest, do you feel as though it's any time you added to anything from your reporting?
Did you think it could cause harm to the streets of Chicago?
At the time I thought no.
Okay.
And, you know, I love this conversation, but I hate it.
Because people, they never want to admit growth.
Yeah, growth is anything.
They also never want to admit someone being honest.
I used to rob people.
I don't do no more.
So that's...
But somehow in hip-hop culture, that's more acceptable to what's normalized than even me, being honest,
and say, at the time, the way.
way in which I reported on and covered Chicago and crime in Chicago mixed with the music
which was drill, I thought there was zero effect.
Okay.
I wholeheartedly believe that.
As time went on and I got older.
As time went on as my platform became more influential, as time went on it, and I recognized
the power of my voice, I believed that...
Put that fucking water down, man.
I believe that things I would say
would maybe heighten
already existing circumstances
and I always said that like you know
when you think about most problems in the United States
whether it's that or something else
there's many factors that go into it
I've gotten to the place in my life that I'm down
to take what you if you want to call it blame
or you want to call it learning
but I'll take
I always but this is where I jump off that conversation
right because like I know you're going you're a jumper I'm down to say yeah I may have heightened
situations unknowingly but I definitely was not the cause was there ever the time that
the artist reached out to you from Chicago that try to you ain't got to say no names to be like
yo why you ain't talking about me like that why you ain't amping what why you ain't pumping my name up
like I'm a demon yo and and this is a thing where you know
You know, you guys on the media side.
You know, we had brief conversations before Cameron.
You know, we didn't really bring it up.
But one thing I did take away from, like, what Gilly was saying is that, you know,
Gilly is using his mind and you are as well, Walo, like you're saying,
yo, I'm going to be the adult to make sure these conversations,
I don't think it would be helpful for you if this is included in what we're going to talk about on the podcast, right?
When it comes to me,
There's artists that they used to set,
there's no accountability for the other side, I get it.
Artists used to send me like, yo, you see this shit?
Yo, when you report about it, make sure you shout out the right people.
Yo, look at this.
People would just snitch on themselves.
People, it became where, and this is where hip-hop is hypocritical.
Because street shit and street rappers and music,
And music fans, which sometimes might be all different crowd and maybe all different
type of people, they're all intertwined when it comes to the promotion of the shit.
So, like, they're telling me the shit that, like, hey, we want to have that reputation.
We want you to put that out there that people could know that when we rap in this, it means
this.
It's not only Chicago happens all over.
And let me just say this, right?
One thing I want to acknowledge, right?
because as a man you know as a man first it takes a real man to be like no you know
I was wrong and you know I feel like I was wrong I added to it and you know just as a man I grew
and I didn't realize what I was doing until I was able to grow it's a flip side to that too
you know what I'm saying because the young niggas that sending them them videos and the young
niggas that they need time to grow too they don't really understand what they doing in life
they're just searching for a moment.
They just searching for that one moment
where they think, damn, if I get this one moment,
this could help my career take off.
And a lot of times, a lot of them niggas don't even really be demons.
Don't really be, that ain't really who they really is.
They ain't really just get a chance to grow up
and figure out who they are.
So that's why we get this game to the young niggas.
So if you're 17, you 18 years old,
and you watching this,
and one of these type of moves is one of your plays,
You might rethink your shit and say,
no, that ain't really what I want to do.
Because this shit could come back and haunt you later
because you're looking for a moment right now.
But one viral moment, that's all you looking for.
And that shit could come back and haunt you later in life.
So, you know, ain't nothing like growth.
You know, I salute you for that.
Hey, but now on the flip side, I got a, I'm a whole while of accountable.
So, you know, when I did the war in short,
Iraq, right, which was a very, you know, I did it in satire. In hindsight, it wasn't the best way
to cover something that was affecting a lot of people. And at that time, I thought it was the
best way to raise awareness by trying to point out how ridiculous this situation was. But in
hindsight, there's a lot of hurt pain, the center, that, you know, I always will, I will never
say I contributed, like, I'm the reason someone died. Right. But the overall situation,
there was some contribution.
And I have to have that accountability to say the next thing.
When it comes to hip-hop,
the finger point and the scapegoatting usually stops
once you get the person who you feel nobody likes
or you could gang up on.
And it stops because the people who also continue to do it,
everybody likes or you're scared of.
So I'll say this, right?
When I was doing a Warren Shirek, I was 20, 23, 24.
I haven't done that shit six, seven years.
There's still people rapping about that.
There's still other people covering that.
There's still that energy there that's being propagated by other people.
But people conveniently ignore that.
And every time I've tried to be productive in having these conversations now about shit
that the crime rate didn't stop when I stopped doing it.
The crime rate been going up.
They've been going crazy and crazier.
But there hasn't been nobody else has been a scapegoat except back.
But that's because at the end of the day, right?
That's like Alan Iverson, right?
Let me give you a basketball reference.
He was one of the first to be like, no, fuck that.
I'm getting tattoos.
I'm wearing braids.
I'm not coming to the game with no suits on.
I'm not coming.
now everybody do that but he had to be the one to take the flag for everybody else to be able to come through
just like you saying you ain't done it in six years you ain't got to do it no more you know why
it's a thousand bootleg DJ academics out here that's making that's making you know
Chicago stories and all types of cities Minnesota so they just looking at you
you as damn I seen him document the struggle which that's how they look at it because they're in
the struggle I seen him document it I seen him do this I seen him do that and now I seen him elevate
maybe I can take the same road so you ain't got to be there but you're planting the seed you feel
what I'm saying okay and at the end of the day a lot of times when you plant in a sea you don't know
what you're doing you just hustling you just working you just you just following the idea of
something and then as you go as you work you start to see oh this shit growing over here so that's
so you start to get even more in deep and in depth in this shit because you see the growth in this
shit okay now it's growing even more is growing even more you're going follow what's growing
you're going to follow us bringing the money you're going to follow what's bringing the attention
you're going to follow what's bringing the views that's what young niggas do you feel what i'm saying
so at the end of the day it we respect you for coming in just being accountable no i did add to it now that
I'm older and I'm looking back because
as black men, that's
what we struggle with a lot of times.
I want everybody be accountable though.
Absolutely.
And but let me
make you the bigger.
We ain't talking to everybody right now.
We talk to you.
No, no, no, but that's always a conversation.
Y'all talk to everybody.
Yeah, you talk to everybody now.
Absolutely.
When you talk to other gangster rappers,
y'all should be saying to them,
y'all are putting out a message that's way more powerful
than academics platform.
There's rappers who are rapping about gangsters shit
that has gotten more streams on Spotify
and Apple more than I've ever.
got in terms of views on YouTube for 10 years talking about beef.
Beef is embedded in hip-hop's culture.
It is.
That's why I feel like it's, you know, to quote my nigga,
whack, selective politic and when if you're going to take academics to task,
take the rapper who's talking about it to task.
Take the people that were putting it out.
You see a lot of the Chicago shit,
the reason why I'm down to take accountability for some of the shit
is because a lot of them were kids.
A lot of them weren't even realizing that they're,
actions were being viewed by the entire world.
You get me?
Right.
Now there's rappers who are on labels who are getting $15 million advances who are rapping
about killing people, who are rapping about it if you don't slide, you're a bitch.
If you don't do this, if you don't destroy your community, if you don't kill somebody, sell
drugs.
That's what these, and by the way, them rappers ain't kids no more.
Remember when I said I stopped doing the Warren Shire?
I was 23.
Some of these niggies are close to 30.
Some of them are past 30.
Why nobody ever hold them to the fire?
They're putting out the same message.
nigga did something you spin
You think my voice more strong than them
These dudes are selling hundreds of thousands of records
They show up with gold plaques for a record
That's promoting hey
If you have a problem with another black man go kill them
So yeah
I will accept any type of
You know flack or demonization for people to say
You may light a certain shit which was distasteful
But the energy
niggas do that because
I'm an easy target for everything
I'm an easy target
but they don't give a fuck about the issue
and I understand it
but I got to call it out because
I like hip-hop music I like gangster music
I don't I don't
drive around trying to shoot nobody
I'm gonna know about the citizen
but when a nigga drop a song and it sound hard
and he's like yo
yo niggas did this I'm about to spin
yo listen what the fuck is dropping
that shit's fire
exactly that shit fire
so I'm a hit
hypocrite as well
because when we see senseless violence
we just seen Young Dove pass away
we all act like we're dumbfounded
but we understand that it's the energy
and the music that we've also celebrated
Young Dove isn't probably like
Are we gonna talk? Like Young Doff ain't probably dead
If we if we aren't celebrating
If we had the same energy for niggas half of me
When Young Dove drop 100 shots
Maybe something would have been different
We're not going to support that shit
That shit's just promoting more beef and negativity
we promote and we love to beef and negativity
until the inevitable happen
and you know what people go to jail and people get killed
I'm gonna say this though
I'm gonna say rest and piece of young dogs
of course a piece of young dog
of course and piece of young dog
but I'm gonna say this though
you're 100% right
we have a thing to where it's this thing
that we represent that we hold on to
because it's the soundtrack to the struggle
of you know the black experience
in America so it's like
that's our shit
represents NWA whatever it is
it's our shit
and we
a lot of
like I said
a lot of this shit
is oxymoronic
and we all hypocritical
with this shit
like platforms
artists
um
but why do we pick and choose
listen
I understand what you're saying
because a lot of times
we pick and choose
based upon people
try to say
uh
and I'm be real
who is this person
rather if you
you know you didn't go to jail
you all the shit
that we glorifying
is that a qualifier
no listen
it when you don't have
the qualifiers of being accepted or whatever it be,
because we're going to be real about this shit.
A lot of times in the ghetto,
that's why it's real important that black kids understand
that it's cool to be smart.
A lot of times in the ghetto,
we have this thing going on to where it's though,
if you ain't in the streets, you're fucking lame.
And the reality is this, though.
Majority of the people in the inner cities of America
is a small minority of people
that's rocking off the mindset of the streets.
We don't understand that.
How many people is in New York City population?
Shit.
Just say $7 million.
Save it's $7 million of that.
Wait a one than that.
All right.
Say it $10 million.
Say it's $10 million.
Do you know how many people in it?
You know how small percentage of people in there that is operating outside of the law or had that mentality?
So a lot of times, but it's market to us that this is cool.
It's overly marked.
Like even when something happened, even when something happened on the news, when the news come on,
is only marketing of us doing certain shit.
So it was a program in our mind to make us believe that this is where it's at.
So we become victims of that mindset.
We become victims of that approach, adults, kids, all that.
Because we adults, we all adults, but we grew up in it.
You see how you say, oh, when I hear that, I get excited.
So a lot of times we don't, we don't denounce what we feel as though that is a part of us.
We don't, we don't denounce what we feel as though as a part of us.
And we become a part of that hypocrisy to continue to push out this idea and its imagery of,
violence and hood shit
because it's like oh that's real
and then a lot of times we say all right
act do I rather act
be rapping about this shit
or do I rather him really be out here
trying to sell dope but what's the name
so even when I hear a young rapper
I'm like damn let me try to amplify him
me and Gil doing a song
trying to throw somebody up is not to throw you up to
because my intentions
because I'm a dude that did 20 years in prison
I don't want nobody to go to jail that's why I push
the message that I do push outside of other things
because it's like yo that shit ain't cool
that shit ain't cool
but it's like
if you come in that
and you're just a dude
that's trying to
and you're hot
and you're like man
I'm trying to
and the first thing
you're going to say
I'm trying to get out
this shit
immediately I'm not thinking
about the marketing
and the promotion
that you're going to do
by the shit
that you're talking about
just like all right
let me try to
let me try to do this
so you did put it
in the way that's
that's realistic
you said with some real shit
we can't take away from that
and it's just about
us reproach
sometimes we got to deprogram ourselves
in order to reprogram or
When is the deprogramming going to go down to for us to all realize it's like, yo.
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Yo, what people got to acknowledge and realize that music,
especially rap music and hip-hop culture,
is somebody's shy in the mirror of what's going on in these inner city communities.
People always talk about, say, oh, act, you like beef, you like this, you like that.
that's not true
I'm gonna reflect what's going on
you know I've seen you on Twitch right
I know okay
I'm gonna let you finish
I'm gonna let you finish
I'm gonna let you'll talk about educate the shit
then I'm gonna get to the juicy shit
I'm gonna keep it 100 we're not about to do this
Martin Luther King thing the whole time
we're gonna get into the shit
No it's cool but we gotta talk
but you can't say Martin Luther King
if you just said
why ain't nobody talking so we got to
no no no I want everybody listen
I hate when people are trying to act like
they're fake for progress
if you fake for progress and you
and you want to hold academics accountable
for, in your mind, inciting some shit,
let's hold everybody accountable
that was involved with inciting that particular shit.
But I don't see nobody saying that.
I see people bumping the same niggas music
who were the louder voices.
It's basically like saying,
you're going to give Trump a pass,
but the fucking little secretary aide
that worked for him that was doing his bidding,
that was just following along
with pretty much what he was going on,
That's the guilty person.
If somebody got a problem with what or how Chicago was affected by rap commentary that was rooted in music, you got to have a problem with the music.
Bigger than that, you have to have problems with the labels that gave tens of millions of dollars to these artists and marketed black pain and black trauma.
But I see no one actually saying
Why the fuck did a nigga go to Chicago
And go to opposite blocks to sign
Niggins who are beefing
Try to create revenue
I see nobody saying that
We're having low level conversation
That's why when I see niggas get at me
I'm like you must either just want some clout
Or you just don't want to talk about the issue
Because I will never ever
I'm not a nigga who throws a stone
And hide my hand and say
Oh I got no blame
But I'm just trying to tell you
I'm in the system
Of where all this shit is happening already
you can't say act oh act you'll be posting that so-and-so did so-and-so on instagram and then you're not mad
that apple music and Spotify and title just playlist of the song dissing somebody where maybe it's
not that overt but you know some songs if you know violence it's encouraging violence why are you
playlisting it when they figured out R. Kelly who got you got um you know found guilty didn't they take
him all off the playlist because he did something bad right so you're telling me that
these companies, these
big conglomerates that are making billions
they know
that hey this guy did something bad
even if his music maybe lightly
refers to it we shouldn't support the music
yet in the same breath
they're promoting a lot of this shit
and they get to hide their hand
because no one will point the finger at them
so you just pointed the finger at them
let me ask you this question
my way saying that loud let me ask you this question
this shit loud fuck you talk about let me
you this question, man.
Talk to me.
When can I patch this shit up between you and Freddie Gibbs, man?
Who, Freddy Gibbs?
Like, when can I pass this shit up between you and Freddie Gibbs, man?
Yo, can I ask you that question?
What do you think is going on with me and Freddy Gibbs?
I just hear you talking crazy about it.
You hear me talking crazy about him.
Yeah, I didn't see Freddy say nothing about you lately.
I seen him back in the past, he was posting up a bunch of memes.
The memes was funny.
I love them.
Yeah, the memes was funny.
I didn't see his side.
I seen back with this one he had his.
old Instagram.
Yeah.
Okay,
okay.
Like,
so the memes
are funny,
right?
Did you?
It was hilarious.
Okay, okay,
so they're hilarious.
Yes.
Like,
do you remember
all the memes?
Because I can tell you the mess.
I don't know them.
I don't know.
I'm going to ask you a meme right now.
Like,
you got kids?
Yeah,
he got kids.
Okay.
If I posted a meme right now
of you in a casket
and me like
dancing over the fact that you dead
or me posting memes that
might be funny to people,
but it's also in the same breath
having a threatening
overtone to it
are they going to be funny to you?
You got kids,
you got family, right?
Oh no,
it might be,
might not be funny.
I didn't see that funny.
I didn't see the jokey,
I didn't see the jokey,
I didn't see the,
I'm just talking
I see a little piece
of the joking.
But you probably seen it
because everybody's sending it
to you, you know what
and going back and forth
snapping about some shit.
I think this was
part of Instagram and some shit.
You want me to give
the full thing
and this is why I realize,
you know,
by the way,
I think he's trying to do some,
you know,
my audience isn't necessarily
the audience
I listen to his music.
I think he probably is like your Fop.
Let me ask you a question.
I'm kind of antagonize this guy.
I'm going to get some cross promotion.
You like his music.
Do you like, he's a good rapper, right?
I don't listen to Freddy Gibbs.
Do you don't list because of the whistle name or you don't listen because he's track?
Because he's got, he knows how to rap.
No, I'm not no hater.
He knows how to rap.
Okay, all right.
But you know what I mean?
Like, again, in my regular day-to-day, I wouldn't listen to his music.
But I saw he was nominated for a Grammy night last year.
I had no problem.
I said, I think I could rap.
But that's one of those things where, like, you know,
I kind of things a little bit, maybe it's karma in terms of like, I've gotten a lot of rappers.
Essentially, it started by this.
I called him irrelevant because he was calling GZ relevant.
You know, GZ not selling like GZ numbers in 06.
So Gizi had sold some records.
It was like, I don't know.
It was like 40,000, whatever the cases.
And he said, damn, you know, that boy is irrelevant.
You know, he got whatever with Gizi.
I'm on a talk show, just like y'all on the podcast.
You got to discuss what's going on in the culture.
so the topic was then well how you feel about freddie gibbs calling gizzie relevant so i thought
about i said it's kind of interesting that he's using sales as a barometer like let me ask you
gilly because like you know you were one of them rappers who did you always use sales as a barometer
or you're like not like you don't even told that talk whoa he ain't even sell no rapist
he's a fucking love rapper don't even mention no sales he didn't sell shit at the end of the day
you could run around here and a lot of these rappers don't don't sell no records
You feel what I'm saying?
But they make a shitload of money.
They do their shows.
The majority of the rappers, the majority of the rappers don't make no money other than show money.
I was, I was making a point to say that if you're going to use sales, you're not even a nigger who sell records.
So if you're going to use sales and shit on someone else, I can use sales to shit on you and say, if you're calling that guy irrelevant and you don't sell much different from him, y'all are both irrelevant.
Touch the nerve.
Touch the nerve.
Ever since then, he got really spicy.
with me.
You know what I mean?
So at that point, you know, he was kind of getting a little bit like, you know, hey, I guess he's seen me on Twitch.
And this is before a podcast popped off.
And by the way, I know he knows that now because he's never revisited.
So I made a proclamation.
I said, brother, this is when I just bought, I bought like a $2 million house in Jersey.
He said, oh, look at this bum-ass thing because you're trying to validate my opinion about what I said.
So look at this bum-ass dude who's in his basement streaming.
my son live in a bigger
spot than he's in
so I put out the facts
I said brother I just bought an 8,000 square foot house
I don't think you know your son
live in a bigger house of me
and I'm and that's what really
touch the nerve
he's been mad ever since
these rappers ain't getting money like that
this podcast is getting more money
y'all get more money than these niggas
don't we put my fucking business out there like that
and they told me the number man
he told me the number man
he told me the number man
I got a fucking wrong with you
even a sweatshirt got money on it
look at you
this is my merch I'm right
But, you know what I mean?
I wasn't really saying that to flex since I really don't flex like that.
But I realize in rapper terms, they only value your opinion when they feel that you're in their league.
It's just like when Kanye said to Sway, you ain't got the answers.
You know why he said to Sway?
He's like, Sway, you're not even at the point.
You're not even dealing with the amount of money and pressure that I am to even have an opinion on what I got going on.
Freddie Gibbs was a very unsuccessful rapper upon to that point.
everything I said was facts
but he got in his feelings
and by the way
I'm cool with jokes
shit I said before I was like
yo Gilly
Gillie was getting on my ass before
I never knew Gilly
getting on your ass
what type of shit
No no no
spicy
No no no
You ever some flexible shit
You just said
Yo why about
You're flexible
He's still my word
He's flexible
That's my word
That's my word
You can't take my word
If I see my word
If I see my word on T-shirt
I need some
I need some of shit
All right
All right right
But before I knew this
Nicky he did a podcast
With a murder
Mook
and somebody else you ain't gonna forget that shit
for real and he says some shit about me and say
yo what I do to this nigga and I went back
to the clips I said what I say about this nigga
and I'm gonna be honest with you
I got over it quickly
because I did have it up a little bit
I got over it quickly because I watched this thing
I'm like Gilly's a fucking fool man
Gilly ain't got Gilly gives it up like that to
everybody right I just call it
how I see like the 21
Savage drink when I did the sign when he pulled
the sign up and I said something I'll be playing
around I don't be because at the end of the
day I don't know you.
Nah, you were playing this gangster though.
I'm going to be honest with you.
He's a real street nigga.
You can't do that with him, man.
I'll do it with him.
Stop!
Stop!
Stop!
No, no.
21 Savage.
That's my thing.
He's a businessman.
Don't put that imagery out there because you just market it some, some stuff we can't
be marketing.
You just said something about a real street.
You're putting that imagery out there.
That's my fucking, you know, you just talked about that.
He's a businessman.
That's my guy.
He's an entrepreneur.
What I had to start understanding is that the younger culture,
they take a lot of that shit personal that...
Why don't they get at you like they get a me, though?
Freddy, hood.
If Freddy, if y'all say something about...
Because, wait, you're joking.
I'm joking, too!
You call Freddy Gibbs a bitch.
You know, I kid you not.
You call Freddy Gibbs a bitch.
But you see, you're jumping past the story.
Let me see.
You're going to jump in a bitch.
Your energy be more personal.
And your approach and your vocal term,
they know what I'm joking.
All right, so what I'm saying is,
we might say something like,
oh, academic, academic, academic.
bitch, we laugh. You're joan don't be like that.
Nah, I seen him sweating one time and I seen that fucking
vaughan pop up on the end. Now that was only for one person.
That was for Joe what? Listen, but listen, you, you, you'll be
snapping, drinking. Like, we've seen you on what's name.
Don't say nothing to fuck about meke else again.
I'm joking. I was hoping. I was hoping.
You'll be snapping.
Meek gave me to call you. I told meke.
I said, I'm going to agendipics. He said
I'm not. I'm just playing. Listen,
and off camera, he called meke. He apologized. You know
what time of this. He apologized. You know what time of this.
That's another story. But act. Can I can I say this act.
Yo, you got to understand.
A lot of times it's about the application
and your approach.
So if Gil was saying something,
he can be seeing some human,
you will be snapping holland to join.
So a motherfucker how are they supposed to take it?
Yo, I'm going to be honest with you.
That's a very good point.
You and you're going to, fuck you.
I'm coming.
You got the real coming your hand.
Fuck you and everybody, you know!
No, I don't sound goofy.
Yes, you do.
I'm going to be honest, though.
You'll be off there looking, digger.
I've talked to mad comedians,
and I realize they have a comedian.
And when you put something with laughter
And it's kind of just surrounded with laughter
You have a lot more leeway to say some shit
I'm gonna be honest when I when I start drinking a little bit
I get passionate I don't get angry I get passionate
But that passion could always be mistaken as personal angry
Yeah okay I get it but are we still on let's still still stay on Freddie
Because you know the part where you just said I want to get to it
So at that point man I
I'm hitting them with a little facts.
I know those are jabs.
I'm hitting them like, you know what I'm giving them
little gut checks.
Like, yo boy, stop playing with me.
Like, don't try to act like I'm some little nigger.
You know what I mean?
Like, you were just locked up in Ukraine
or some place overseas for some rape.
Like you was broke.
Oh, we're editing this out.
No, no, no, this is facts.
This is facts.
He's facts.
He's facts.
He beat it.
I'm not saying nothing.
Well, he beat it, but you threw it out there.
Like, can I break down the application
or what I just told you?
You threw that out there like that was a splash on his jacket.
No, no.
He beat it.
No, no.
It's not about the rate.
It's not about the rate.
It's not about the rate.
No.
Not about the rate.
It's not about the rate.
I'm going to tell you what's about, though.
I was saying he was in a fucked up situation that financially he couldn't even help himself.
So when you just got out of that, don't try to deal with me like I'm you.
I'm not you.
How about could y'all just, could you get, is it squashable ways though it ain't that deep?
Now, I'm not into squashing with him at all.
Oh, so let's move one.
Because we don't want to keep amplifying it.
I don't know, we're not amplified, but why wouldn't you be in the squashing it?
Wait, wait, he ain't slap your mother.
He ain't, listen, hold on, hold on.
If I tell you, you're not going to be real.
If I tell both y'all the answer, you're not going to be real.
Because I love y'all, but I know with certain shit, y'all will look the other way.
No, we don't.
Can we leave it alone?
No, no, no.
I want to leave it alone.
No, no, no, I want to ask you out a question.
Because this is where it got amplified to another level.
I always thought, I'm like, yo, I know he's trying to
ask me, because I didn't do some shit to the extreme.
No, no, I want to ask both of y'all.
Hey, I figured, you know, we're not going to be around each other.
Like, listen, I'm trying, I'm not getting up every day trying to talk about him.
Like, we went back and forth, like, it was like a year plus ago.
I was over it.
By the way, the internet was like, yo, he got the better of me in that public exchange.
It's internet shit.
It's like the fucking high school people just, like,
crowned around each other in the lunchroom.
I'm not that mad if they say it's,
L-S-L, nigga, I've done a lot.
I went to L.A.
He was out there, just like how y'all moving around.
You're going to do mad podcast, whatever, whatever.
By the way, at that point, also, I'm at the thinking,
I say, yo, if anybody even know him,
we could, like, he don't like me for whatever reason.
We could get on the pot.
Nigger, I'm a media personality.
It got to get to a certain point for me not to be able to do this with you.
So I'm like, I'll get on here, shout, I'll scream.
You can call me, I don't care what you say to me.
It's supposed to be able to hands on each other.
Let's get some content.
Let's fuck it.
Yeah.
After I leave, I come back from L.A.
He sends out a tweet on Twitter.
Man, you know I could have smoked academics.
I knew where he was at.
I almost pulled up there and smoked him.
And the place where he was at there, I knew everybody there.
Nobody was going to do nothing.
They was going to let me smoke him.
But God told me no.
If somebody's talking like that about you on a public platform,
them, they're not
talking about, oh, I could have smoked
while, oh, I knew where that nigga was
at, blah, blah, he was lacking, I could have done
this, how would you take it? No
name. How would you take it? I want to hear of
both that I would take it. I probably would have been laughing
because I probably would have been like, why you ain't come smoke me
that, nigga? I said that. I said that. I'm still
here. Oh, you said that to him?
No, I tweeted. I said, I said,
why are you tweeting about some shit you ain't there?
But I'm going to be honest with you. You see, you said
that, you pop right back. No, no, no. He's
saying the operative thing.
He'd say he would be laughing.
I'm a little tight now.
But was you laughing about it at first?
He was like, this shit is a joke.
One thing for me, I can't take serious.
No nigger threatened me when he just typed that shit.
And the world's seen it.
So did you laugh at it?
I can't take that shit serious.
I mean.
Just just me.
And did you believe that he really knew where you was at?
Did you believe?
I'm just saying his love was of it.
I believe he knew.
I don't believe in his wildest dreams you would pull up.
But do you think him putting that on the internet, he really was real about that shit?
And he wasn't trolling you?
I'm not saying whatever he did.
Hold on, no, no, no.
But he might have been trolling you because he know, listen, he might have just been trolling you because he knew he knew where you was at.
And this is where I realized that Freddie Gibbs is 6'9, my nigger.
I'm going to tell you why.
Freddy Gibbs is a son of a cop.
Freddy Gibbs' brother is a doctor.
His other brother is a district attorney, okay?
Let's keep all these things in mind, right?
Father cop, brother district attorney, other brother, a doctor.
Remember, these are the gangster rappers.
He's claiming he's vice lord.
he's big tough and everything he's tweeting out public threats to me i could have killed you
right give everything like this in mind right there's not nobody from where he's from in gary
indiana they all hit me nobody's vouching him if i wanted to take that further i could give them a platform
but i really don't want to keep this going with him he's saying what he would do to me i hit him in the dms
it's a fact i hit him the dms i said brother i know you're trolling because you're trying to promote an
album. I'm in the media space. I love to go back and forth with anybody. It's going to help me
make more money. I'm in the media. I need to put our content every day. I said, but it looks
like you have a problem with me because when you start talking certain things, we could find a way
to resolve it. I said, when do you want to meet up? I DM them this. This is facts. It's on, it's
documented. So you wanted to rumbling? Anything he wanted to do. You, you know, because it's anything he wanted
to do. No, no. Oh, no. No, no. Stop it. No, stop it. No, no. No, stop.
Stop it.
You know what he did?
Remember what I said?
Father a cop.
Brother, district attorney, other brother, a doctor.
You know what he did?
He tweeted out my DM to him.
I did not respond to him publicly.
He tweeted out.
What would you take that to be?
You know what I'd say six and a huh?
What would you take that to be, brother?
All right, let me just say this.
Okay.
Hold on.
See, you're not keeping the same energy.
I'm giving you out of that.
Call it, call it spade the spade of space.
Oh, listen, listen, listen, I would have done that shit.
but I can't say
I can't compare a nigger
Wait wait wait wait wait hold on
Hold on wait no I'm sure you
Hold on wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
I can't compare a nigger that's never
Right one in the court of law
Or that to my knowledge I know that ever have a statement
To to compare him to somebody that I know that did tell on somebody
And did make statements I can't do that for
Father is a cop, brother.
You're picking on somebody claiming you want to do violence.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me just ask you a question.
Let me say this.
Hold on.
Can I just say one thing?
Hold on.
Hold on.
Can you all?
Just read this out.
Into the mic.
I believe you.
No, no.
I want you to read it, though.
Bro, I believe you.
Because every question y'all going to ask me about anybody who you're going to say has these
problems with me, this is the epitome of what we're seeing.
I believe you.
I ain't got to read.
I see it.
I believe you.
No, no.
Because some, y'all got to read.
Y' got to read it.
Y'all got to be honest.
I gave him the number the call.
Ain't no number in there.
No, oh, no, I deleted.
I deleted.
There's a number in there.
No, I did delete it.
Because he posted already.
Right.
Make sure you.
You know, he posted.
Oh, no.
The number right here.
What you're talking about?
No, you moved up.
Oh, you moved up.
Oh, you moved up.
You moved up.
You moved up.
You moved up.
You ain't going to read another.
You ain't going to read nothing.
What is it?
I'm going to ask you one question.
You always inviting somebody to pull up.
Do you know how to rumble like that?
Because you always invite somebody to pull up and get busy.
If things don't, hold up,
if things don't go right
and it goes totally opposite.
What do you mean, invite?
You always, pull up.
You know, you're a king of pull up.
Let me say this.
I'm not the king of pull up.
No, you always tell me somebody to pull up.
Let me say this.
I'm not the king of pull up.
Let me say this.
Well, in certain people,
certain people I told you.
No, there's a few individuals.
Three people, it's really three people.
They threatened that they could do me bodily harm.
They said that what they would do when they see me.
said I would do a fucking thing.
I'm only telling them where they would find me
because they won't find me in their vicinity.
I will never be in their hood.
I'll never be at a club with them.
I won't be in most places that they would be at.
But if you want to find me, I'm going to tell you
everywhere I go.
People are saying they couldn't find me,
but I was going to complex every day.
Isn't that a mind fuck?
I worked a complex, three and a half years
every day, Monday to Thursday.
Yo, this nigga hack not outside.
Who are the three people?
Because we could get this squashed.
Well, we don't have to put the meek thing.
No, that's done.
Y'all good.
You apologize to Miko
on the phone I've seen it.
You know about the Philly.
That's about the shit.
You know me and meek, we love each other.
Yeah, okay, cool.
It's cool.
Yeah, he's wrong for meke.
You're about to kill Wacking Hell with Miko.
Man, listen, Philly.
That's all my stuff.
You know what I'm wearing?
You know, I live in Jersey.
I've learned one important rule, man.
Stay out of Philly business, man.
Man, man, that's all.
Stay out of this shit.
Let's let us do us, man.
What goes on in our house?
Right.
We can fight with each other, but we didn't do it.
So it was really, it's Freddie gives it my song.
I can straighten the mic sound right now.
We get to squash that.
Do you want to squash that?
I don't think my song was to squash it.
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Hold on. Let me just say this too. Hold on. Hold on. Before you call myself, let me just say
this right. You sat here. You said, man, I, you know, come from a good family or whatever.
I used to work at Verizon. Yeah. I went to college. I was doing the shit.
with the tech shit with the computer.
You know, I learned my way.
You know, I'm a citizen.
But you calling niggas up.
Am I calling them up?
I'm not calling them.
Or you DM a niggas, whatever.
I'm responding to their threats of violence.
But there's better ways to respond than, hold on,
then where you had, I can pull up on you, we can meet up.
We could go through.
Listen, listen, listen.
Hold on, let me finish.
No way, no, no.
But I got to correct you why we'll be discussing this.
I never said I'm pulling up on anybody.
These are all people who claim they'll do bodily harm to me.
Let me say this.
You just said, wait, wait, hold on.
You just said with Freddie Gibbs.
Hold on, I answered you DM'd them.
Yeah, no, because he's saying, yeah, he could meet up.
Yeah, he's saying, yeah, he would come here.
Well, you didn't say that.
You didn't read that.
You didn't read it.
Okay, okay.
Let me say this.
I believe, I believe in self-defense.
What people must think that you must need to be a gangster or anybody could do anything to you.
I believe it's self-defense.
But this would I'm saying.
But you gave somebody an invite.
Hold on, no, no, that's what I'm saying.
I got no problem with you.
They can show up and there's no problem.
Because I don't have a problem with you.
I will never do nothing to you.
But if someone initiates a problem with me, I make...
You got a license to carry?
Brother, all I'm just saying, man...
But let me just say something.
Let me just say something.
None of this don't make sense, Act, because you can't say...
Did they show up?
Well, hold on.
Can I just...
Hey, hey, hey, listen, I know...
I know, I know...
Pull at this.
For any nigga who...
Hold on, I'm going to let you go.
But for any nigga who's saying whatever?
I'm a law-abiding citizen.
I know every law, especially in the state I live at, and where I frequent,
I move off self-defense.
I don't, I never said I was going to do nothing to nobody,
but I always said I was going to defend myself.
If you claim you, whatever you claim you are, show me different.
And I'm going to always fall back with self-defense.
Whatever you want to take, you can take that as.
Can I speak now?
Please.
With no interruptions, y'all.
Go ahead, my brother.
All right.
It's your podcast.
That's what the fuck I thought
bitch, you motherfuckers
Shut the fuck
Swallow shit today, man
What I'm saying, right?
You say you're a civilian
Right?
But yet
You tell a niggas
To pull up
Right?
You're inviting niggers
To drama
And you're saying
When you get there
I ain't gonna do nothing to you
I'm just going to defend myself
But what if
What if niggas actually pull up?
up and then
niggas actually pull out because
I'm from the streets and I know the first nigga on
the draw laid a law. Ain't
no defending yourself when that motherfucker
cook or come out. It's whoever gets
that motherfucker first.
So then now you don't invite it a
nigga to a whole situation
that is it really worth it?
I play home games.
Is it really worth it?
He said some slick shit. I play home games.
Bro, wait, hold on. Let me finish, bro.
Because all, because that shit,
sound hip and cool because I know
niggas that break in the nigger's cribs and play
home games too. Matter of fact,
matter of fact, I know a kid right now
that's locked up
because he murdered four motherfuckers in their
home. So, hold on, so nobody ain't
untouchable, bro. And you got to... That was not the
point. Listen, can I finish it? You got to
understand that. If you say you were
a civilian, then you should be a
civilian, you got to also watch
the energy you put out there because
the energy that you throw out there is the
energy that you receive back. If I'm a
civilian and these niggas
is so-called street niggas, whether you
feel they're street niggas or not,
I can check them
niggas in a better way than telling
niggas, nigger pull up.
Okay.
Nigger pull up.
Because God work,
a lot of times how God work
is
he'll put you in a position where
you'll be in the supermarket
or something
than bump into a nigger
it ain't gonna be your house
you'll be out and about
and where you least expect it
you will bump into a nigger
and now you got an issue
because
you sip some liquor
and put some negative energy out there
but you're still not saying
that I put a threat
or a promise of me doing anything
you got to realize
but when you call niggas out their names
you call niggas out their names
because listen if you're constantly
go ahead and online saying what you're about to do to me
I gotta now I gotta call y'all today I'm sorry what did my son say
he was going to do to you my son said my son out his mouth said I'm a bitch and
he don't look like me as a man my son disrespected me listen what you keep talking about some
gangsters I never claim to be gangster but I'm a man before anything you know a man before
anything are you a man are you a street nigga before you're a man okay so so what I'm
saying is that everything he's saying won't ever trump that I don't care you could be a street
nigga you could be the most gangster nigga who ever lived on earth as a man
you will not hurt me or even try to in my vicinity is you willing to squash that shit
today though that nigga listen let me tell me all them niggins don't say don't say
that crazy I'm just asking even you're having security bro you got to understand this too
and I'm in this ain't just for you this is for everybody that got security hold on
them niggas got wives and kids at home too right dumb niggas
got families, they got brothers, they somebody
fucking nephew, they somebody's son,
they somebody, don't put them
niggas in the line of fire.
Don't, don't add extra motherfucking
danger them niggas way because
really them niggas just out here trying to get a
check. They're not trying to jump in front of bullets like the
CIA. And we living in a time
where niggas shoot you
to you catch on fire, man.
This is a different time. These niggis
that fucking, the fucking ambulance don't
pull up no more, act. The fire
truck pull up. Because niggas look out
window with some trash on fire out there.
No, that's a nigger that got shot
that many times that it sneaks and
coat is the fuck on fire. So
I'm just saying
you seem like a nigger who
know who you are. You come on here, you
accept who you are.
You're not trying to be nothing. You're not.
But at the same time, I feel like
sometimes you just get a little loose.
You could check niggas without telling
niggas. Pull the fuck up.
And you agree with that.
I want you advice. I want you to give me
game. Both yeah.
Again, I'm giving the situations that is not, I don't want you how to characterize this as, yo, act is just jumping out, saying, whatever, rapper, whoever man, suck a dick, make a pull up.
No, I know it's only a few niggas.
That's not, hold on.
Fuck, even a few niggas.
They brought that in it.
So if some, okay, I'm a civilian.
Somebody's telling you, yeah, like a nigger like you, we would do this to, this to, this is how they're speaking to me without me responding.
Yo, I knew you was there.
I could have smoked you, nigger.
That's how they're speaking to me without me responding.
What is your advice to me then?
Should I just ignore it?
Because, see, for me, I'm going to tell you.
I'm going to give you some advice, right?
You have nothing to say to them, though.
I'm going to give you some advice, right?
Hold on.
I'm going to give you some advice.
Wallow will tell you, from time to time I have a goofy nigger from anywhere,
just come online and just disrespect me.
A lot.
Goofy niggas from all over the country.
you think I'm going to give some some some energy to a goofball when that's marketing when
when all I'm doing is marketing and promoting so Freddie and my side are goofy niggins I should
I'm not saying this is how I look at the niggas who's coming at me these niggas don't know me
they don't have no reason to come at me so for me yes in my eyes the niggas that do that to me
is goofballs I don't get them niggas no lane I don't get them niggas no outlet I don't get them
niggas know. You feel what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, what I'm going to do? A
nigga that come at me or wake up and say, oh, I'm going to mention gilly to try to get some
traction and I'm going to entertain that shit. No, my nigga, because real niggas don't handle
themselves like that. I'm going to ask you this. Don't act. You feel what I'm saying? Real men
don't handle themselves like that. So I'm never going to entertain them small fry shit.
You feel what I'm saying? I'm not going to do it. Listen, I ignore my, like.
I ask you an important question.
You just say how we don't go and fix
How shit be crazy with us
The culture, we're talking all this dumb shit
The violence
I asked you
Could we squash that shit?
I got the brother number
I know him
I have no problem with my son
I would love to have the same
Even situation I have with me
You just
Watch you see I like that brother
For real
I'm not gross
That's not even growth
You act like I was trying
No it is growth
It is growth
Now I ain't going to try that shit
With Freddy Giff
You're scared
I'm ready
No
Nickin you fucking tripping
You scared him?
Fuck, no.
This shit ain't got nothing to do it.
Yo, his father, a cop.
Listen, I'm not, I'm just saying
because how you, this, all this shit.
His brother, DA, nigger.
One second.
Trying to stop the violence.
This ain't no violence.
Yes, it is, man.
You know, he's the 50 minutes away, right?
Like, there ain't a bollus, right?
Like, there ain't a bollus, right?
Like, somebody caught you and put you in the fucking headlock, man.
Man, that's another thing, like the end-nebby thing
that we're about to do headlocks.
There ain't no headlock.
Who about to put me in headlock?
You tell me who?
My son.
I just fucking told you.
That's why I'm trying to squash this shit right now.
He could have been came in if he was going to do that.
He's going to probably call me back.
But what I'm saying is, though, it's like, it's like a lot of shit to where it's, though.
You always tell people, and by the way, this is how even a piece it up, though.
Yeah, you know?
This is how the me and the meek issue got squared away real quick.
I was down to talk to Meek for five years.
I was never allowed and afforded an opportunity to have a one-on-one
conversation with me to figure out problems.
We're black men.
We could, we make millions off this shit.
Nobody wants to throw away their life, their freedom,
do some dumb shit, or even encourage it.
I'm with that.
We could have hopped on a phone call saying, hey, listen,
I didn't like when you did this.
This is why maybe he did this.
This is how really people outside of hip-hop solve issues.
Or even if there's some egregious stuff
done to certain extent, you'd be like,
you listen, there's no bloodshed. There's no bloodshed.
There's no people loss. Hasn't gotten physical.
Yo, listen, whatever was in the past,
let's leave it in the past.
I'm down for that with pretty much.
And even when I'm saying with Freddie,
he's like,
yo, listen,
this is just someone who I know
he's trying to promote his toughness
by trying to bully me.
And that's another thing that y'all,
y'all haven't really addressed
while y'all are giving me, like,
you know, these speeches.
My old thing's about squash and shit.
In a situation where a lot of these rappers,
Freddie ain't never bully another rapper in his life.
You know, Freddie.
No, I'm being honest.
Now, you never been tough
for another rapper ever.
We ain't never heard about that.
He's been tough with,
Jeezy.
Come on
when Jeezy's way past that?
When Jeezy just went through some real shit
so Jeezy been laying low,
Jesus married this nice little Asian wife.
I'm not saying it like that, but I'm saying
you asked what he was his name.
And my thing is like,
it ain't about really who he was tough with it
not.
I'm just saying it, you know,
I think y'all should be able to squash it.
Well, as I said, I've always said,
I just said I was down to get on the phone with him.
Most of these dudes,
I ain't talking about my son.
They're trying to get these little gangster points
of thinking they're going to bully me.
They're not fucked up
because I'm not reacting in the way of how the niggas scared of the bully should do.
The nigger who's scared of the bully don't say, oh, yeah, we can meet.
Like, what are you talking about?
Like, oh, you want a box?
We could box.
The nigger who's scared of the bully don't do that.
But most of them, they're not doing it.
So you're willing to do a boxing match with Freddie Gibbs?
With any of these niggas.
You put on the right amount of money, of course.
Nigga, I had said it for me.
Just suit to me.
You know, we can send it on.
We can send it a box of match with me and you.
What's up?
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I see the hands.
I see the hands with school, but I, I want you to fuck up.
Let's get it done.
Thriller, me versus.
At least a M.
At least a M.
Two M's.
That's all this is going to take.
At a taxi.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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You know what?
This shit.
I'm not, I'm not cutting no way.
We're not listening to this.
I don't want you to get a shit.
I don't want you to cut away.
I'm coming in 158.
150?
158.
That's all I need.
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I'm getting 10% of both of y'all.
I want to negotiate this shit.
I'm going to get 10%.
Yo, he gassed after Floyd gave him that compliment about the box.
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I see that you have a real opinion on artists and music.
Yeah.
but do you listen to rap rap or do you listen to moment music because you promote a lot of moment music
that's a good question like do you people want to know like do you really listen to hip hop or do you
listen to i'm not going to say hip but do you listen to rap music hip hop or do you listen to moment music
because a lot of the stuff that you stand behind you like and a lot of your crowd is is young
yeah so so i would say to you that that's an incorrect way to even phrase it because i don't think
rap rap is part of moment music if you ask me no i'm not saying it like that but but hear what i'm
saying i think the people who i haven't listened to or the styles i haven't listened to i haven't
involved i listen to corday who's rap rap yeah but he's if you listen to him compared to some other
people i listen to the grisela do's the time there's rap right you get me like i i i do listen
but sometimes you know people just think that you're in 2021 unfortunately and i know like
Like, you got to think, you know, this is a, this is the most profitable genre of music.
If you think you just got to have some bars over, over some, like that's, I ain't talking about, I ain't talking about, I'm not talking about the business out.
I'm just talking about some, trying to figure out what do you listen to because I don't want you promote.
I ain't talking about the business out.
But the business size matter because I'm going to say this.
There are certain people who they're saying, well, this shit would have been hard in 2005.
Man, hip hop was so marginal compared to now.
if your music can't, you know, affect
multi-generations and multi-racial amount of people
and you're still trying to do what was popping in the 90s
or early 2000, I'm not going to listen to you.
Like, you're trying to give me a nostalgic feeling,
which I don't have to be trapped in the 90s or the early 2000s.
All right, let me hear all we say that.
I progress.
You don't like the old back in the day shit.
Like me, I listen.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Like, a lot of times.
And they were killing me for this.
They were killing me for this.
I listened to my nigga Lloyd Banks album.
And at first I did on stream that I listened to it off of it.
And I ain't gonna lie.
I ain't like the instrumentals.
Felt like 2003.
We're like, we in 2021.
Shout of the Lloyd Banks.
One of the best rappers.
One of the best rappers, but like, I try to battle.
I told him in his DM, I will battle anybody, but he never showed him.
I told him to pull up.
I used to cut this out.
I told him to pull the fuck up.
I used to write his rap.
What are you talking about him.
Stop, but you ain't got no 16.
I used to write his raps.
You ain't, no 60.
I ain't, no, you're trying to get me to spit.
Why are you always coming at the chicks, man?
Yeah, who used to write for him?
Wayne, yeah, Wayne used to write for you.
They got, I heard the shit.
Wayne used to write my shit.
Yeah, but why are you always coming at the chicks, man?
What chicks?
Wait, man.
The IG chicks, man.
Hey, listen, man.
What's wrong with you?
They didn't get you no pussy.
That's what it is.
I said that to you.
You know, I said that to you.
You got turned down in the DM and you just went ballistic.
You know what?
No matter what people think I am, like now in hip-hop, whatever culture,
I'd be looking at this shit just like a regular human, right?
Well, how you look at it then, nigga?
All right, so I look at it like this, man.
Man, I see all these girls, and I'm not jealous of them, but not like that.
Like, you know, in terms of, you know, they're popping just because they've either
open their legs for certain select group of rappers or they've done certain things or they
look a certain way.
But I'm going to be honest with you, like, you know, now, and I'm outdated in that.
I could be honest with that.
I'm outdated in that.
You know what I mean?
Like, there was a time where a very popular chick.
like Melissa Ford
or like any other video
vixen at the time
Gloria Veles
Gloria Vellez
It's the gang of them
The most that were getting
it was the punch line
In like you know
I wouldn't get far
Or you know what I mean
They were pretty much
They weren't pretty much
The people who culture
Was fucking being revolved around
These days with the shade room
Like
I could imagine
Gloria Vilez
And Melissa Ford
Probably looking at like
Ari and being like
Yo what the fuck
I ain't do right
But it's a change
of the times so really when i when i started like you know i mean like kind it wasn't even attacking but
it was just kind of questioning some of the the the accolades of some of these women who i just saw
had ridiculous fan bases was like around the amber rose black china time i'm like what the fuck
what's going on here now i get it now but i do think it's kind of sad you know i mean because
we're seeing that you know whether i want to admit it not is i said i have an updated understand of
music relationships help like it you might have a rapper and he kind of popping
but he ain't like no chicks fucking with him they ain't a record he could make that make a girl fuck with him you know what you gotta do you gotta go date somebody popular to get posted on the shade room now they gonna care about it that got nothing do with music that's some other shit
so there's a little bit of me right day where where like I'm holding on to some old ideals you know what I mean where I'm like damn why does this shit even matter but also I'm seeing it with a lot of these women like I mean I feel like they're having their way they just like taking advantage of the whole situation and
They take advantage of dudes.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, it's not a beauty.
They could get on, by and large and part because of the beauty.
Well, see, but you got to understand, too, right?
Females is out of hustling.
You feel what I'm saying?
They only get in their way because they're dealing with lame-ass niggers.
And if you're going to come up on a lame-ass nigger who's going to give you your weight
and you take it.
You feel what I'm saying?
Oh, you're going, oh, I just get to have everything my weight back.
And then anything is a competition.
Oh, such and such boy, hint, her a phantom.
Niggas be out here buying bitches, phantoms and shit and be with chicks for four months and shit.
Five months and shit like that.
So at the end of the day.
You agree with that?
Yeah.
You do.
Cash dials said it on the show.
No, no, no.
I said, do you agree with that happening?
No, you could not.
First of all, not from a nigger who's been with my motherfucking woman for 20 fucking plus years.
Fuck, no, I don't agree with that.
Even if I was, even if I was to break up with my woman right now,
split apart, whatever, she lead me, however it went down, because I just don't want to say
break up with my woman like that.
She's like, what the fuck you throw that out there for?
She leaves me.
You know, either way.
She's all the couch and shit up.
You feel what I'm saying?
Either way, for me, it's like, you, I don't give a fuck how much money I got.
You never going to look up and see it.
No, a chick going to get from me when she deserved to get it.
You feel what I'm saying?
You ain't going to get from me just because I got it.
That's hustling backwards.
never been no nigger to hustle back.
Okay, so you know what they killed me on?
I'll vocalize
when the suedei comes out
and says,
if your nigga don't buy you or burkin,
throw that nigga back to the streets.
Like, listen, just like, you know what I mean?
And for me, it's about calling a spade of spade
and being fair on both sides.
Like, if you see a rapper
promotes some detrimental shit
that you know is misleading the youth,
you don't think all these young ladies
who are coming up now,
I'm telling you, like,
a girl hit 21 these days,
She started seeing the niggas kind of fuck with her.
They're instantly going to OnlyFans.
They instantly feel like, yo, they shouldn't even have to work.
It should be handed to them.
Right.
That's why they need their father in their fucking life.
Yeah, but it's the mentality that's being promoted and propagated by Sweetie.
Why don't y'all talk about that?
No, no, this is what I'm saying.
But this is what I'm saying.
At the end of the day is like this, and I understand what you're saying,
at relationships is in fucking trouble right now.
Because everybody is watching these IG celebrities and influencers or whoever you were,
rappers, singers, artists.
They're watching their, and a lot of these relationships is highly produced relationships for the gram.
Of course.
Because it's marketing.
If, you know, and it is what it is.
So women is watching this and they think like, oh, me, man, might be a good dude, but might work for UPS.
Might have his own shit, good credit score, good car.
But he can't buy her certain bags.
So now he got to go and the whole time, this motherfucker might have been your soulmate.
So a lot of good dudes is getting looked over all because they can't buy you something.
And it's like, you goofy, Shorty.
This dude probably was the one that was the one for you.
was sent by God as you pray for me as you make your Sierra prayer right this was the dude
that was sent for you but all because you're looking at a lifestyle and we're going to be straight
up there's way more women than it is men so the reality is most of y'all is never going to run
into the dude that's going to buy you not even a burkin you you're never going to run into a
dude they're like in the coach back fuck chel you want to get a coach back hey this is why i love
i'm just being real i love that danny laid the baby shit and not for the reason people might think
I like it.
I like it that is showcasing the other side of the celebrity relationship when you see
the baby just born, the baby crying, and they're arguing.
Because that's the reality when we're promoting.
We've seen it a lot, too.
Everything is perfect on Instagram.
Celebrities, they link up with each other for like four months.
Pregnant.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Time, my, time, my time, my time.
My brother.
My son.
Yes, sir.
Now, listen.
Before I say anything, I got you, is me, Gil, and academic.
We want a podcast.
before I say anything, can I speak to you first?
You hear me?
I'm listening to you.
You know I respect you.
You know I know who you are.
I'm not calling you.
Fuck that cloud.
Fuck the bullshit.
I'm calling you about real life shit.
I told this, brother.
I said, whatever problems you got with my son,
I know him.
That's my personally, brother.
I know you personally.
Fuck the internet.
Fuck all that.
And I say, yo, is it problem, you know,
can y'all, can this shit be squashed between y'all?
You know what I mean?
We said, we said, laugh and joke.
You know, he always invite your motherfuckers to pull up.
We talked about that.
And it's cool.
he said yeah i'm cool i'm with all that now i'm gonna call i'm gonna ask you
is that cool with you to even have a combo or even just be like you know what
because both of y'all's influential people in our culture you know however people see it so
is that even a something that can happen i mean i'm i'm not really opposed to having a conversation
with him you know to be i mean because for me i just think
um how would i say i just think i just think
that, you know, I expressed a lot of things that I didn't like that he did, you know,
about things that he did, the way that he carried certain things that really just, I thought,
was detrimental, like, to a lot of us. And I think the way that he started to talk about me
personally, you know, about being discrediting me, calling me out my name and all these things,
it became, it got to a point where I was never.
talk about physically doing anything to that man, you know, and he started saying things
that was inviting me to fight and physical. So to me, he took something to a level that because
I didn't agree what you did on, to the culture, I didn't agree what you represented to the
culture. You started to talk about me in a way that I'm not really comfortable. So I don't want,
I don't want to have this conversation on the platform. Oh, yeah, no, you ain't got to do that.
No, I just want you all to talk.
We're off for this shit
But I'm just saying
As he here
I'm like listen
That's my guy
I know who he is
As a human being
I'm gonna call him
And hopefully y'all
Can get together
And talk
Even meet up
Whatever
And just because
It's like we can't
I don't want
I don't want somebody
Name to come up
That I know you know
I call you
Whenever your name
Come up
And I don't say hold up
He ain't
He ain't on that
He wouldn't
He would showing us
What time it is
So that's my whole thing
My whole thing
Is that he right here
I said man
Let me call him
Y'all can discuss
This shit
Anywhere else
even get together.
You know what I mean?
On some real live shit
because it's people watching us.
Yeah, I hear what you're saying.
It's kind of, for me, like,
Wello, you know, I have a very low tolerance
for disrespect.
So, you know, and for me,
whatever I ever said about academics
based on something that I've seen him do,
right?
I didn't come and say,
you know, I think academics said this about me.
Or this person told me this about academics.
I didn't say academics is a bum
and this and that and he don't got this
or he did so. I never, those things
never, academics posted some shit
about some kids flying. I think that
shit is some whack shit. Academics run around
with 6'9. I think that's some shit that's
that's something shit that's detrimental. This is shit that I've seen,
physically seen with my OI.
Academics had
academics have
attacked, accused me of stealing and being
an ambulance chaser,
taking money from people. Shit that never
happens ever. Like these
are shit that never happened. It wasn't based on some shit
that was real or nothing. He utilized
his voice that said shit that had nothing
to do with it. That wasn't real
at all. And it wasn't based on something that
he even knew about. He talked about shit
about me that he didn't know nothing about.
Everything I ever said was based on
what I see he put out to the world
about something. You know what I'm saying?
So it is a different person,
it's a different level of personal disrespect to me
the way that he handled this situation.
You know? And that's what it is.
Can you apologize
because if you put something out
that was wrong, can you just apologize on some real shit?
That's it.
This man's shit.
Don't make no excuses.
We stand on kind of business.
I got to clarify.
No, no, don't clarify.
Could you?
No, because he's not telling the accurate story.
No, no, we ain't going to get to the back and forth on here.
We're going to let y'all talk off.
But I'm just saying if he said, it was certain shit, he don't chase no fucking ambulance.
He don't do a lot of stuff.
I know he personally.
I'm just saying, I know he personally.
It's certain stuff that he don't do.
I'm just saying, no, no.
I'm listening.
On some real shit.
There's a lot of shit that you said, and I'm like, hold up.
So.
You stand on prison
Hold, we won't let it go crazy on here
Because I don't want y'all to go back and forth
That's what I went personal
Can I, can I, can I, can I say this?
I'm always down to talk to anybody
I'm just saying that, you know, I don't know some shit
That was low blow on some crazy shit
Did you do an act on some real shit? We're talking
I'm gonna be honest
Everything I said I felt
With the information I knew
I felt it was factual
All right, well listen
And maybe that's because I don't know him
You don't know him
I'm telling you I know him
I didn't been in the community with him
All right
And I haven't seen that people deal with him.
Well, well, just like some of the things he has said about me that was definitely not factual,
that it's probably because we've never had a conversation to actually get clarification behind some of that.
Are we all going to have a conversation?
So if it's a situation, we could have conversation, of course, yeah.
But as far as, you know, he had mentioned that there was disrespect first levied on my side.
That was not true.
I vividly remember he said, I don't even respect him as a man.
yeah that came after you said that I was a blunt
and I was somebody that was a failed rapper
and all of this shit and you can pull up
and these are things that came after that
I never said I was I was pulling up
I never said that and not at that point
you said you said you didn't respect me as a man
right after you
pulling about it about it
no I that's all that came first
so that's why I didn't care about your opinion
as a man. Okay. That's why I said it. Okay.
Your opinion of me in account because I didn't see you as a man.
Okay. That's why you made an opinion about me based on shit you didn't even know you never
seen or nothing about me. And I said your opinion about me didn't matter because I didn't
see you as a man. That's where it came from. I spoke about you as in your rap career
and what I thought about it. I spoke about what I thought you were doing otherwise in a professional
career. And you don't know
nothing about... Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Just like
how you spoke...
Hold on. But just like how you spoke...
Just like how you spoke about me and what you
saw or thought my platform.
No, no, hold on. I post about you. Yeah, but
that has nothing to do what you know about me
personally. You're posting by my professional career.
I can respond to about what I...
I just know what you put out. And I said the
energy that you was putting out that you
was advocating and you kept promoting
violence with these kids was detrimental
to the culture. And I didn't change
I'm not going to change that. I don't think
I said anything that was wrong in that.
You started talking about my professional shit
that I do. Yeah, but you're talking about my business.
If you're talking about my business, I'm going to talk about
your business. All get on the call.
You don't know nothing about me.
You don't know anything about me. You're going to call. I'm going to say this, though.
You're giving what you perceive as facts about what my
platform and what what we stand for over here okay i could give i could give a very astute um description
of what i believe that your career and your plight stands for i'm too then then when you start
you don't know how i make money you don't know but just like how you don't know like again you
don't know the ins and out of my platform like i was on clubhouse before i was on clubhouse before
some of the stuff that y'all were accusing me of doing and whatever labels was paying to promote
nobody's getting that labels but you don't want to have that.
conversation with me because you then said it, I don't respect you as a man. So, of course,
at that point, I am going to go personal because now you have, you have now taken away from
the platform and what you've think you. Oh, well, you, this is the whole thing. At the end of
the day, it's like, I'm going to let you all get on the call, but like, it's just something
that y'all might be a talk. I'm just saying, it could be a talk. That's all. I don't want
nobody to go to another place. I'm always, I'm always down to talk to people. It's usually when
they start to, like, I'm not, don't add no, no, no, I'm not, no, no. I'm not, no, no,
But that's not me.
That's not me.
That's not me.
Bro, I'm just not the nigga who you could.
Don't have no source.
I'm just not the nigga you could scare with violence and then I'm running a hole.
You ain't got to go about the violence.
Don't do the violence shit.
Bro, he was the one who brought it.
You know why even said anything to him?
No, you're right.
I'm not violent.
You're right.
I'm not violent.
Hey, Mike, don't go on your back.
Why, why are you talking about something else?
You have, you.
The reason why I mention any of that is because you had said to me what you would
done to me.
And I'm like, you aren't going to do nothing.
Let me explain to you, bro, because I need you to understand.
The level of violence and understanding of violence that I have been involved in my life,
you don't, you've never been involved in that.
And I understand the detrimental of that.
And that's why I utilize my platform, my voice, to do something different.
That's why you shouldn't talk about that violence.
But listen to what I'm saying, bro, so you just want to talk.
I'm explaining to you, right?
The way that you speak to certain individuals and the way that you, the aggression that you have,
I have a lot of people in the streets that move a certain way that I've protected a lot of different shit because I'm out of that life.
And I'm trying to tell you that the aggression that you have, I don't think that you understand the ramifications of that.
I understand the ramifications of that.
I understand what comes with threatening a man and telling them to pull up and saying that you've got more money to have and you can put money on somebody's head.
I understand the ramifications of that academic.
So when I say that, if I said that about a man,
I understand that I can lose my life
or I'm willing to take that man's life.
You never dealt with that level of aggression or violence.
Hey, but hold on, hold on.
Y, I told my street, should I keep telling you how I'm a man.
Yo, I'm telling you all of a man, so I don't care what you're saying.
We ain't call for this.
No, no.
It's not the game.
It's like, yo, y'all are acting like,
oh, I could say whatever to y'all because I'm prepared for it,
but you're a bitch.
So, no, nigger, you can't threaten me
or you can't make me feel uncomfortable
and where I'm at.
He just talking about...
That was a sentiment I got.
That was like, if you're trying to make me feel uncomfortable,
I will not be backing down.
I will invite you.
It's not about backing.
But I'm trying to...
You're talking about back and down.
It's like me saying,
me talking about I'm going to go have a fight in the ring with Mike Tyson.
I can not be uncomfortable.
But there's a reality that Mike understands that I don't.
And I'm trying to tell you,
you're playing in arenas with men
and people that live by different rules than you.
And you're inviting...
Why are you talking like?
get some killer some shit.
Oh, see, come on, man.
No, for real, though.
I'm a joke.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's bringing it off of there.
Much love.
Much of my son.
That's love.
Like, I wasn't trying to take it down.
Oh, bro.
Oh, I agree.
Everything he's saying is fact, bro.
Everything he's saying is fact.
You say, listen, you said here and you said you were a civilian, bro.
I'm trying to get you told to be peace.
You said here and you said, y'all not hearing me.
I hear you out, too.
You said you're a man, hold on.
Hold on.
You say here and said you a civilian, right?
What I got to do is somebody, somebody, somebody, somebody, somebody,
Somebody now disrespecting you.
Listen.
He said, everything he just said was the God honest truth, though.
He said, the shit that I've been in in my life, you've never been through that type of shit.
Got nothing to do with being a man.
I don't care about it.
They got nothing to be being a man.
Yo, you, let me tell this.
There's somebody who probably never did no crime in their life, but they got proud and respect for themselves.
They could run into the biggest killer who got a million bodies.
And that person disrespect them, they're not going to run.
They're going to stand there and defend himself.
I didn't say.
And that's my whole point.
I didn't say you was, but what I'm saying is your energy.
My energy after you have said, I don't respect you as a man.
If I was around you, I do this and that to you.
What energy could I have?
But, nigger, what are you talking about?
What do you want to say, all right, you got it?
Just one hand.
On one hand, you just said,
Yolo broke this shit down to you, you sat here and said, you know what?
Because I'm always, hold on.
You said I'm not.
You said I probably could have delivered it better.
You're right.
You'd be delivered.
You snap out with some people see certain shit.
Hold on.
That's basically all he was just saying.
So let me ask the question.
If you're listening, you're not listening.
No, I am listening.
You can't listen with a rebuttal.
You're not listening.
Heck, he didn't listen.
Listen, can I finish getting this?
He didn't challenge your manhood.
He didn't disrespect you.
We're talking about right now.
Right now.
We're not talking about.
It's right there on that call, bro.
We're trying to get past.
But what he's talking about is listening to.
But what he's talking about is what we talked about prior, like a prior.
Then he challenged about.
my manhood prior it's inequitably it's yes bro so when i bring that up y'all like oh no no like listen
i'm sitting here talking about what happened after we call right now bro i'm down to just have a conversation
but he's bringing that up i'm sitting here talking about academics said this academics did that
well it's going to sound like i should be apologizing if you don't know why academics did that
it's going to sound like it of course you'll be like well academics said this he said that so if you
It's the same thing respectfully when Meek got on Clubhouse.
It was all about what I did and nothing about what happened before academics did that.
Can I ask you a question, though?
Yes.
Then Meek activates your feelings because you went totally different when he came and said what he said.
Didn't he turned you up?
You got, you, you were winning your.
Well, he turned you up.
You know I was listening.
He activated your feelings.
He actually put your feeling right.
He wanted to tell him.
He wanted to hug him with his stuff.
He can't wait to see me.
He said, I can't wait to see me get him up.
You said with this fucking shit.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Fuck that.
Mike searched that button.
He didn't say nothing disrespectful.
He actually called you.
He actually called you beloved.
You feel what I'm saying?
He didn't say nothing.
And that's how niggas talk to niggas in New York right before he dissing, man.
Stop.
I can't see these things.
Come on, me.
Yo.
That's crazy.
Man, you don't turn it to a street nigger now, man.
You're a street nigger now.
You're a street nigger now.
You're a street nigger now.
What is, if a street nigger is the only person.
allowed to defend himself when somebody
disrespect them?
I'm not saying that, bro.
We're not saying that.
Nobody, bro.
I just want you to know.
It's cameras on.
It's people watching us.
I know.
They're going to be able to hear the conversation.
Sometimes you just got listening.
Don't get defensive.
He didn't disrespect you.
Oh, he said, listen.
Listen.
Hold on.
You don't listen.
You don't listen.
You know, tell a half the story is being disrespectful.
Do you understand that?
If you got an issue, if both got an issue.
Heck, I'll just say it here.
But if y'all both got an issue.
issue and I come in and I say yo I won't both be out of squash it and I said
wallow you tell me what happened and you just say your piece and then he just got to shut up
and I'm like oh okay work no like nobody didn't say you had to shut up act but what we're saying
is he's sitting here even his temperament is calm your temperament is a little different it's like
wait hold up like it's like bro my temperament for somebody who's not telling the truth
It's the Rutgers Act and it's the street act.
It's a jersey city act.
No, no, no.
The back block.
No, he's not telling the truth.
You got to tell the truth.
All I'm saying is, listen, I just sat here, right?
Before my son came on, a half hour, 45 minutes ago.
Yeah.
I said the same exact shit that Mike Son just sat here and said to you on the phone.
Oh, the pull-up.
That's why I'm sitting here.
I would never let a nigga out of him.
Damn, bro, you cannot let me finish for shit.
That's why, when he's saying,
I'm looking at you saying
that's the same shit I just told you
just you could check niggas better
than telling niggas to pull up bro
well he could check me better than saying
he don't respect me as a man and that he would do this
and that to me you don't want to address that part you
that's the point that's the only thing I'm trying to get your dress
I'll agree with what you're saying but you gotta address
the other side I mean because I've asked
both y'all what y'all would do if niggins say they were
a smoke child y'all all act like I don't want to answer
I keep saying it's selected politics
I just told you I was a lad I told you I'm
I told you I would have laughed because if a nigger would have came to me on
Instagram talking about he going to smoke me on Instagram yeah okay cool buddy I believe
you all right I'm waiting I'm fucking waiting like so for me I answered the question
it's not selective politic and it's just niggas is trying to get past the dumb shit
Yeah, but you can't bring me into a negotiation room
where, yo, it's, yo, act, you should
apologize, act, this, no.
Bro, I never told you to apologize, bro.
And by the way, I'm still down because I have a conversation
I've never told you to apologize.
But I'm not going to have the narrative get out there
where it's like, oh, act just start talking crazy to this guy.
Act was saying, bro, why are you mentioning me constantly?
I get it.
He says he's on some hip hop, like he's for the love of hip hop.
See, you got a massive way of being sarcastic and sliding your shit.
See, this is my point, act.
This is my point in my point only, act.
You know, that nigga got you got your own contract, man.
Y'all don't defend it.
No, I'm not defending no, nigga.
Act, I'm just saying, this is my point.
If I got an issue with a nigger, it don't matter where I see you at.
I'm always going to have the same energy.
You ain't got to pull up to my house.
You ain't got to pull up to where.
I'm at, I can see you in
motherfucking shop
right at motherfucking 10 o'clock
at night right before it's closed
picking up some motherfucking hamburger meat for some
spaghetti. I'm still going
have the same fucking energy.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm saying
you can't sit behind no
cameras and had his energy, but
then you bump into a nigga and the
energy's not the same. And what I'm
saying is God will
place you in a position, bro.
out of anybody, only meat meal I have to have to be the same.
Only meat milk out of any of these things you say saying,
and only meat mill I knew if me and me can ran to,
I said it.
If me and me could ran to each other,
it would have been a different situation.
Like, so my whole thing is,
these other things like,
bro,
they have no business even talking about me.
I talk about hot rappers.
I dissect meat milk career all the time.
T.P. with a slammy.
Oh, what?
T.P. with a body.
Boom.
Earn with the stops on your head.
Oh.
Yeah, yo.
Earn would have jumped off the top rope on that.
Who are these people?
Who are these people?
I'm worried about Earner.
No, no.
I don't worry about it.
Yeah, so when I was going back and forth with it, I don't know.
He'll need to know what he'd be able.
He'll need to know he beef.
Listen, when I was going back and forth with Meek Mill, I knew the level of severity was at.
And by the minute, we talked about that.
That I had to move a certain way, and he always moved a certain way.
because had something, you know what I mean?
That's where my mindset was at
and that was where his mindset was saying it could have been, right?
These other dudes, I see them get up every day.
Like, whatever my son is saying,
like it sounded like I'm trying to be the tough guy,
but my son got up every day.
Academics bad for the culture.
Academics to leech.
We got to get him out of here.
We need people like him to not be able to exist.
How does he make every single day?
Freddie Gibbs.
Bro, I said one comment about you.
I say you can't respond.
Whatever, whatever you flame me, whatever, cool.
Year later.
All right, let me say this.
You just randomly jump out to my, yo, I could have smoked this thing.
So now I can't respond.
I'm going to say this.
But I just know they're not meek.
And also everything I'm saying to them, I'm saying it to them not because I'm like on some delusional.
Nigger, I didn't drop an ad just for no fucking reason.
If y'all got a problem with me that much, what's up?
But I don't want to have a problem with y'all.
So if y'all want to get into conversation, but some of y'all say I don't want to come in as a man so we can't.
it's all. So let me be what it be. And for the rest of y'all, Freddy Gibbs, you're just trolling.
I don't want you, I don't want something to happen in there. You put your daddy as a police
officer investigating me and your brother over here as a DA prosecuting me. I don't want that.
Hey, you know niggas be dying out here. I do know this. And this is what I'm trying to say,
why don't nobody go tell that niggis, bro? Can I ask you a question?
Academic saying the first blog game and the first media personality, why the fuck you keep
talking about that, me? Why? Why does academic?
kicking it with six nine now why does academics kick into with six nine
have you up on your skin and feelings like that
nigga i got my own business nigga because he's old no let me ask you
he's not even in hip hop let me ask you a fuck what we're talking about let me ask you a
question though on some shit like i'm a hip hop
one of the biggest this nigga not even hip hop he all the picket signs why the fuck you
who fucking he's not even a hip hop nigga
hold on you fucking shit up he not in hip hop
Oh, you spit on the equipment, no.
You're not turning that, no.
This thing and said that dumb as shit.
No, we got turned it up.
You know what you're doing.
You know what's true.
You know what's true.
You know what you're doing.
Give me some tissue, y'all, please, man.
You're fucking laced a fucking material, man.
But am I lying, though?
Listen, I'm witch out on the,
my passion could be misconstrued.
But I can never say I'm not speaking facts.
All right, let me say this, though.
Let's move to a place where we get you.
Let me say this when we get you into a better spot.
Who right now?
Who right now on some real shit?
Listen, on some real shit
You know, it's just rumors
How much money did you get paid for $6.9?
This business.
I never got paid a dime.
So you market somebody for free.
So labels ain't come to you and say, yo.
Okay, okay.
So could I, and I've said this before.
No, we're talking about business.
We ain't even talking about him.
No, no, no.
We only told my business.
Because people want to know.
We only told my business.
And this is why I'm always upset at, like, people who, like, you know,
their hate.
And this is like, it goes for anybody.
Don't touch that. Don't touch this shit.
This goes for anybody who ever had a problem with, you know, that guy,
and then they're trying to take it out against me.
No, I'm not even talking about him as that.
I'm talking about business marketing because you was a big part of his career.
No, I hear that.
I'm giving the business.
But I'm trying to say before I give the business,
I hope people would understand the business for them to stop.
You might go about some new equipment, man, with that dumb man.
No, you know, I got this.
It's a fact.
You know it's facts.
Go, go, go, go.
You know it's facts.
Go, go, go, go.
All right.
Here's the thing.
6'9 went from a rapper who was on the brink of being shelved and dropped on a label.
It's plain.
It's 10K projects.
Let's call something else before.
They give a lot of money.
The owner of it is the son of Lucien Grange, the most powerful guy in music.
He's a guy who cuts Drake all the hundreds of millions of dollars check.
He cut the billy for Birdman.
Okay.
Okay?
He has an indie label.
Mm-hmm.
Because, you know, you give your son something to work it out.
They signed Trippie Red 6'9.
6'9 was not the label favorite.
Because of some controversy, he was actually about to be dropped.
He has a song called Gummo.
I like the song.
I, like, randomly, you know, because I'm just supporting it just randomly.
His label owner was like, yo, whenever you're in LA, like, we should, like, you know, catch up the drinks.
I always tell the story.
I don't even I don't know
2017 I don't know no label people
You love a drink though
I do like to drink
Yes you do
I show up to this place
I always call it right now
You had a few so
No I don't know the dumb shit
He's saying about my son
You're laughing and it's true
Look at you
No but go ahead
So I show up to this place
I always call it the Illuminati Hub
It was everybody in the fucking world
That had some importance was in it
I learned later was called Delilah
But I didn't know that's how L.A. moves
Like people all these executives
They might compete with each other in daytime, but at nighttime, they all frequent and partying the same spots.
They're talking business.
I didn't know about networking like that.
So I showed up there because I was at Complex Con.
They were like my little chat niggily.
That was my audience, like, you know, name, were like 12 people.
I showed up there.
Everybody's in suits.
That's the first time I seen Steve Stout.
I never seen Ebro after that, but Ebro or Lesz was in the room too.
Ebro.
That guy was there.
Somebody else from Sony was there.
Hold on people that used.
care about, but you never see. That's what I called the Illuminati meeting, because I couldn't
believe that. Wait, all y'all have powerful music, people be in the same room? I thought you
was beef. Because y'all artists beef with each other. It's not. So I met with him, and I said,
man, I was interested why you even wanted me to meet with me. He said, I can see you're a very
powerful influence in the culture of media. And whatever you say, you as a person, your platform
him influences a lot.
I see you like
6'9 music. I never talk to 6'9 at this time yet.
That's like the music. I posted a bunch of times on my
Instagram. I said, yo, why isn't this
the biggest song in New York? Remember this is after Bobby got
logged this. I said, this is, listen, I'm always
the, like, I always like go to bat for the youth.
Because I was one of the people, say whatever you want about
the Warren Shirek, I'm covering the young
niggas in Chicago. So I'm like, why ain't this the
hotest shit in New York?
New York. He tells me a lot of problems that six-kniters have.
You know, well, Pierre don't want to clear the beat. This person don't want to do this.
Because there's controversies around him, you know, allegedly being a pedified dissenter.
The guy wanted my advice. And this is the God honest story.
I'm telling you, if there was money, I would tell you. He wanted my advice. He said,
what do you think we should do? I said, first of all, you've got to put this song out.
because it wasn't our official
It was just out on YouTube
This Lucy's Grange
Yeah I said you gotta put this song
What's his name?
Elliot Grange
I'm just saying
The people need to know
And I said you gotta put it out
And they're like
Well we're working on it
But you know
It's giving us a tough time
It's giving us a tough time
With this producer
So I then said
I then said right
I then said
You know what you need to do
Because I like the song
I never met him
But I try to post some of his like stuff
On my Instagram
Always gets reported
The guy who's his label owner says,
why does it get reported off your page?
I said, I think it happens on World Star 2.
He's so hated because people look at him
as what they are seen as the rumors
that they hate him.
I suggest to him, I said, yo,
I know artists don't like to talk,
especially his new generation,
but he needs to clarify what people think about him.
He needs to address the rumors.
He needs to meet it head on.
The advice I left,
LA giving him is that have him do an interview.
They call me back five, six days later.
Yo, we try to get him an interview with everybody
for him to explain this side.
Nobody wants to do it.
I said, what?
That's his eyes on.
Nobody wants to touch it with a 10 feet pole.
They said, act.
I know, like, you already helped us a lot.
Is it too much if we ask you to give him an interview?
And I didn't go in and try to interview the nigger.
And usually I don't even fuck with like new artists like the,
but I was like, all right, fuck it.
I'm gonna do it.
And I only did it because I've been the black sheep
through my whole media career.
I didn't come up on Hot 97.
I didn't come up on these glamorous platforms.
I came up with a niggit that was doing videos
in the back of my Mazda on my break at Verizon.
And I say, yo, fuck it, I'm gonna give me an interview.
I gave him an interview somehow.
What did you use?
You were using a phone to do your video?
Now, we had some little DSLR cameras
and like, you know, I think the audio was fucking bad on it.
Like we had like Twitter.
And we didn't even have the video,
such it was like one angle type shit, you know?
And, you know, I think I edited on I-movie real quick.
And I always said, I did three, the reason why I fucked with him, I did three interviews with him that day.
Because his management came over after everyone and said, now, do it again.
Yo, he's saying the word bitches and that's not going to look good if he's explaining this type of thing.
And I remember I did the thing, three interviews.
And I talked to his label, and his label said, okay, all right, what do you got?
And I said, yo, I got three versions.
I don't know which version I want to go with, but I got three versions.
And his management said, let's go with the super PC version.
And I talked, and his label hit me on the side and said, you think this is going to work?
And I said, that ain't going to do shit because he don't seem real.
He's not keeping it in a hundred.
Y'all trying to make sure he seems PC, but he's never going to be PC.
And this is how I met him.
And this is how me and him started having a relationship.
Because he called my phone and he said, yo, act.
I didn't have the phone number here, but he called my phone.
He said, act.
I hear you don't like the version of the interview they want me to put out.
My management won't want me to put out.
And I said, yeah, I'm going to be honest with you.
We did it three times.
The first time, you just kept it real.
The second time, your manager didn't want you to say certain things.
And the third time, he definitely didn't want you basically say anything.
I think you should go with the version where, yeah, you're saying some derogative words,
but you keep it in a hundred.
He said, fuck what my manager says.
Let's go with the real.
I like that.
That was cool.
From then on, he hit me a couple of times, and I'm going to be honest, he did what many rappers who have gotten helped.
I talked to so many journalists.
You see, I interviewed the big dogs, but you don't have somebody, for the most part, in journalism come up,
they interview a nigger when, like, months before they even get on a double Xcel, maybe years before.
You see, when these artists blow up, they don't pay them shit.
These people are struggling, always interviewing new artists, and these new artists take these interviews.
leverage it in other ways and when they blow up
they say fuck you to the person in the media
and the reason why I fuck with
6-9 is that
he saw how I put my
platform
a little bit on the line because people are going to be like
yo and they were saying why did you give him a platform
how much he gave you I never got paid
but here's the thing
and this is the bigger story right
he realized like yo
now fuck with this guy
anything that was news for him
exclusively it was called me first
He went to LA
There was some fight
TMZ was there
He called me first
Yo
Let me give you the shit
Before TMZ gets it
Also he's a smart
Dude too
I'm not dumb
He's smart
If you could
Tell the media
Your side first
It plays better
He who tells his side
First
Usually seems like
Trueful one
Smart guy
But here's how
My platform benefit
That's why I never
need to take any money
If you operate off
Pay for play
Especially when you're coming up
You're fucking losing
every label start calling me
everybody I sat down with everybody
everybody that was in that room
I sat down with every one of them
in the next three to six months
they called you
6-9 now has a record going crazy
he's on his second one he's on his third one
he's looking unstoppable
you broke gumbo
I didn't break it
but they thought I broke 6-9
and what's the difference between the song
and the artist the difference between breaking a song
and breaking the artist.
Because a song could come and go.
Breaking an artist
and having that exposure
is what artist development
was trying to do.
They shut that down many places.
It's the hardest fucking thing.
You see with TikTok these days?
The fucking song is bigger than the artist.
You don't even know the artist.
You don't even know the artist.
Who cares about him?
Hey, of course, I'm a savvy business man.
If y'all want to give me all the credit,
I'll take all the credit.
Now, he's a genius in terms of
he's always into some shit
he's messy too
you get me
like so he always into some shit
but of course everybody's calling me
like yo could you get the visibility
that this guy has
for our artists
I looked at all of them
and I said listen
I hit him over the head
like y'all was Fred Flintstone
you made the bag
that's where you got your bag
at M's
they had to do it
you got your bag
every label come at you
they still come now
Because
But you ain't been able to
Oh no, no, no
Well, it's not
You haven't been able to break anyone
Here's the real truth
First of all, a label is a billion-down company
They just got money to spend
They probably just throw y'all money just because
If I wanted to break another artist
First of all, it couldn't be money-driven
It would have to be, oh, I fuck with them
I used to link up with this thing on just random days
He would be like, oh, let's make some content
I agree, make some content, I'm gonna post it
Like that took a special
kind of connection also has this type of artist
that could actually create content.
So it's not like, I'm not a
gatekeeper who could pick who's popping.
It takes the artist as well.
And what the artist got, what's the work
that the artist got to put into the pop? Because a lot
of artists think, oh, I'm going to get posted
on this page and I'm out of here. I don't have to do now. I don't have
to create no content. If there was a secret
to 6'9, let me tell you this, 6'9, even
from when he started to this day,
he thought of himself
more as a marketer than a
rapper.
You don't want to do a bit too much more fucking talk.
No, we're not talking about him.
We're talking about the business of it, because.
So let me ask you this question right here.
A artist, period.
What do it take?
These days being like, so these days, this is what the labels tell you.
The labels say, be a good rapper,
and we will figure out the other things to get you known.
But they don't know what it is.
They don't know. That's why they need gatekeepers like us.
So you know what they're going to be like, oh, well, I think if,
People know you, they'll like you.
Let's see if we could get him, let's if we get them on a million dollars worth of game.
Let's see if we could get academics to fuck with him.
And they're trying these things, but it's like, it's not organic.
It's nothing's organic.
Like these days, the guy kind of also has, that's why the baby's so dope.
Yep, because his energy is organic.
That's why young thug is dope because his energy is organic.
That's why 21 Savage is dope because his energy is or Kevin Gates, my nigga.
They don't tell you that.
but that's where the game is at now
before back in the day
they could create some shit around you
it's hard now before they can tell you shut the fuck up
we don't make this seem like what you got going on
but it's so superficial and we could see through it
right we could see through it like you're not the person
that your label's marketing you to be
right we're engaged with you nowadays
so again
you know for me
I believe I could do what
and obviously I would try to do it where there's less beef
but I believe
if I could do that again, but it would have to be
an art, it takes the right artist too.
It's not just me. Just like, they probably look at
a job and be like a million dollars worth of the game. Y'all can do anything.
Yeah, we can.
Let me ask you a question. Why did you have turned down an interview
with 6-9? Because I know we called you.
I mean, that's just not, I mean,
where I come from and how I was raised,
I just was raised to how that you stand,
what you do. You feel what I'm saying?
And no matter what the
situation is, if you choose to jump out there
here first, then you got to take
what come with that. You feel what I'm saying?
And so it's not just nothing personal against six, nine.
It's just I can't rock with, like, everybody in Philly, no, one of my best homies.
You feel what I'm saying?
That I used to be with every day.
It's like American Express car, never leave home without him.
I found out that he told on some niggas, me and him never hung ever again in life.
Because how we was raised, how I was brought up, you stay in what you do.
This is a nigga right here who went to jail at 17 years old.
bro and got 20 years
bro he ain't tell on nobody
he stood what he did he didn't say
hold up he was with me no
wait he did no it was none of that
he stood on what he did
and that's and when you step out here
and that's what you choose to do
when you act like you subscribe
into the street shit
you got to stand on what you do
man and that's just
just how I operate on life
I agree with it from your perspective
I think that's a great perspective
I only look at it
that I think you may have
missed an opportunity to teach
the people who look at him
unless you don't care to teach those people
I really don't care
you know like obviously
the streets made a mind up about that
but they you know I went to a concert
this is after he
did he still doing stuff
he got a different audience
yeah it was all these
you know non-African American
there was some slight a little bit
maybe like 2%
but it was this whole different audience that
consume hip-hop
right and they don't care
care about those ideals. They don't care about some of the, you know...
But they wasn't raised how I was raised.
Do you feel what I'm saying?
But if you're kicking game, at some point, I would imagine you don't only want to give game
to people in the inner cities. You want to give game to people who are consuming this culture
because they're taking this shit. And when you look at rolling loud, they're not advertising
rolling loud in the hood. Right. They're bringing the people from Idaho.
Go ahead. The people from like out of the way Connecticut.
Iowa, that's becoming the new majority of what hip hop is.
Well, that's always been the majority.
But you got to talk to them.
White people always bought the majority of hip hop records.
That's just facts.
You feel what I'm saying?
So at the end of the day, that's always been the majority.
It just starts.
But they listen to him.
It just starts in the streets.
It starts in them little neighborhoods.
It starts, and then it sprinkles out to the suburbs.
The back room, the basement.
Right.
But at the end of the day, but at the end of the day,
But at the end of the day, the biggest supporter of hip hop
has always been the white people.
They always bought the most records.
They ain't by your records, bud.
Shit, you're crazy.
You didn't sell no records.
You ain't have a record.
You're a fucking he's.
Now, Joe's definitely, Joe wasn't sold more of you.
Yes, he did.
Joe, Joe sold more records than him.
Oh, now you think.
Joe got the biggest song, I told you the song was my song.
First of all.
That's a nice time I was going to have a little.
I was going to be tight with you.
First of all.
I never came out on the media record label.
Oh, now you want to make excuses?
No, I'm just, I'm talking about it.
Joe's on a mountain digital.
I iced the shit out of Joe.
What fuck is you talking about it?
Joe would be about it.
Now you're going to lie, you can't fuck with Joe in the Versus.
He's fucking crazy.
You can't.
You can't.
You're talking about it.
No way.
Hey, you put me and Joe in a fucking rap battle.
I sweep Joe fucking buttons under a fucking rug.
Fuck are you talking about.
Stop it.
Yeah.
You don't believe that.
I got Joe Winning him.
Do you believe that?
I believe Joe Buttons could outwrap me.
Yeah.
Come on.
Man, you got life.
Joe and smoked this shit out of you.
That one song, that one song.
You got like fucked up.
Your career came out of to one song yet.
You're like fucked up, man.
You put me and Joe.
Yo, listen, me and Joe Buns could do a rap battle, right?
And they can give me, they can give me a heavy ticket.
And they can't get him a heavy ticket.
And if I don't win, I give him half of my fucking ticket.
Fucker you talk about, man.
But we go smack.
No, you can't fuck with you.
You got light fucked up.
That's how you know you ain't grow up nowhere near Philadelphia.
Now, you can't.
No, I'm not saying you can't answer.
You grow up anywhere near, Philly.
you wouldn't even be talking like that.
Fuck is you talking about my mouthpiece is impecc.
Why are you acting like Joe, not that nigga, though?
Joe is not that nigga.
What are you talking about?
He's all right.
In a rap battle?
We're not talking about.
A fucker you're talking about.
No, no, no, no.
Because he did a shit.
He did the shit where he was in a house before, so we don't know.
It got to be on beat because like.
I don't give a fuck of his own and off.
The fuck are you talking about.
You didn't just see me or sway in the morning on beat?
What the fuck are you talking about?
And I see Joe, Joe Bonan on a green.
Lantern joined those crazy
Did you ever listen to any of his music
Gil music?
Yeah the one way
You're off of him of course
Oh thank you see
That was my hot as shit though
This shit Wayne
That's a bum see
Everybody know he know the secrets
About what happened
Shout to Joe button though
I would sweep you out to the rug
Digger
Hey listen
Are y'all cool with my nigga Joe though
Yeah
Ain't no problem with Joe
I think one time
I think he'd tap child up
With the podcast game
You know what I mean
This podcast game
This is yonder's ago
You know what I'm
Tap child up
You know what I mean?
Tats child up you know what I mean?
Make sure what?
He did what?
Yeah, I was in, you know what?
You know what?
You was getting your business mind.
Oh, no, our business was always cool, though.
Our shit was cool.
Always on my shit.
We always on.
Look at our trademarks.
Look at all that shit.
Our shit been foul.
We own our shit.
We own our shit.
Nick, David just sent me the copy of the shit.
They ain't seen you nothing.
Dave ain't sent you nothing.
Dave ain't sent you shit.
We hold our shit.
Dave going to tell you, no, no.
Them motherfuckers.
Them nakers is moving exponentially.
Yeah.
That's four times the normal rate for you, niggas, that don't know.
But I can say this, though, you know, I feel like I'm like the newest and probably the rookie in the podcasting game.
Spotify gave you $14 million.
Right.
I mean, how many years?
Whoa, what are you talking about?
See, now he's spending.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, who told you even that number?
I'm worried about this.
Oh, let me tell this.
There's fictional numbers going around.
No, no, that's my guy.
That's my guy.
I'm just playing Courtney.
I'm just playing.
I'll just play it.
No, listen, people don't understand this POSG game is serious.
I don't think they understand the finance you and the business side of it.
Yeah, next time you talk about my fucking business out there, nigga.
I don't want cameras go off, nigga.
Yeah, you said some things about some money.
Man, I heard about the money.
I heard about the money.
That's why I talked about your money because you threw some shit out there early,
but that's another story.
But you see, you lock when I said 14.
I know.
Listen, you know, I know the whole industry.
I'm about 14 was too little.
Talk happy.
Talk heavy. Talk heavy.
He's talking that shit.
I'm capping, man.
I already know you capped.
I know what's going on.
What?
I said 14 million was too little, okay.
Wait, wait, wait.
Did I pay like that with Barsall's?
Shit, bars still do us right, nigga.
I don't know.
I see, I see, I said, we got 14 million.
I ain't saying, what the fuck we got.
I seen Carl Daddy was over there and called Daddy.
He said, I had to death.
Call a Daddy one got $60 million.
Yeah, I heard it was only getting $6 million before.
No, we're not going to say all that.
I don't know what you're a business.
You are a messy nigger, man.
You all the niggas.
You own all your shit.
We own our shit.
100%.
Yes.
Yes.
You posit about this.
just get shit
so if y'all leave
y'all gonna bring your shit
is water wet
is a pig's pussy pork
you own our shit
the only reason I ask
is that I believe
the game of podcasting
the companies
that are doing business now
like for example
Spotify bars soles
otherwise
they are armed with more
information to say
shit
we got some leverage
if these things want
in the bag
we won't take some
ownership like it's changed
since since that
you know
and I think you don't mean
that's you got to have
real leverage, y'all. And a lot of podcasts,
a lot of people starting, they're just doing it, and a lot
of people don't have leverage. What's the top five hip-hop
podcast? Let's get it to. Number one
is million dollars worth a game.
Number two is, uh,
are you, you hip-hop podcast? No, drink champs.
Drink champs. Well, listen, if I don't make the top five, I'm right.
No, no, no, no. You're not going to make new fucking top five.
What? Yes, he is. You crazy is.
Yes, he is. Yeah, I can't.
Game, drink champs.
No jumpers.
Oh, I'm throwing big facts in there.
Big facts.
Oh, big facts is major.
And we want to put you five.
That's because your numbers.
How are you going to not put Joe there?
I mean, Joe talk about a bunch of shit I don't agree with.
But no, it don't got anything to do with hip hop though.
Joe is, Joe is a legend in the game.
He just like to talk shit, you don't know.
Because he know you'll beat him in rap, Joe.
That's all the shit's about.
That rap shit tipp with his fanny.
No, Joe wasn't there.
I'm just fucking with you.
I knew you was going to say that.
I thought Joe was the number one podcast.
She, you got me fucked up.
Hip hop.
How?
Fuck, we don't exist.
Two, three.
Now, drink championships is heaven.
They got that Kanye shit, man.
Okay.
That's how people.
Listen, we ain't got no podcast beef.
We ain't, no podcast beef.
You know who run this shit.
I listen to everybody, but I like how.
Fuck you talking about.
I was saying to y'all, I like how y'all go get the content.
Hey, no fucking beefs, but.
Hold on.
Matter of fact, we number one right now.
Hell.
That's a screenshot, nigga.
There ain't no motherfucking screenshot.
That's a screenshot.
That's a screenshot.
That's a screenshot.
That's a screenshot.
There ain't no screenshot.
There ain't no screenshot.
Look.
What are you talking about?
That ain't no, that ain't no fucking screenshot, man.
That ain't no,
that's a drink chance.
Hold on, hold on, wait.
We never want to drink.
Yo.
Who got the number one episode?
But listen, who got the number one episode?
Top shows.
He probably took a break.
He probably took a little week off.
Shows.
What about who got the top episode?
Nah, come on now.
Listen, let me say this, though,
say this, though, on some real shit, we might laughing, Joe.
Yeah, yeah.
The bottom line is that when you say music,
the culture is running that shit in the podcast space of music.
You see us, you see Joe.
You see, there's one with MFD, you see Mollett, what's the name?
Hey, hey, listen, listen.
You see us.
And it's about that.
And we all do different things.
You see, you see, did I call it?
You see Maul Roy and Mar.
You see no jumper.
Stop hating on my home, Roy.
This is a weak-ass list, man.
Like I'm like, yo, go to the Spotify list.
No, go to the Spotify list.
Let's see what's popping over there.
You see, let me see.
Nigger, you tweaking.
Oh, but.
Hey, you're actually doing your thing.
No, they're the leading.
You're doing your thing.
They're the leading outlet in podcast listeners.
We salute you.
Why they deleting it?
No, they're deleting.
So there's more people that listen to podcasts on Spotify than on Apple.
So if you're not showing that Spotify charts, I don't know what we're talking about.
Yeah, I mean, we know you did you deal with Spotify.
Yeah, they got here.
Like them on.
They didn't promote me.
I'm too extraded for them, you know what I mean?
We know you did you deal with Spotify.
We know, dog.
You ain't got to keep, you know, putting it on Spotify.
I mean, we had bars to wait.
Shout out to Dave, Portland, or.
If y'all come, Dave, get a part of a deal?
And Eric, uh, huh?
We own our shit.
We own our shit.
We own our shit.
What are you talking about, man?
Y'all got to buy your masses back in another, right?
I'm just, hey, inquire minds.
I'll be just sitting at home listening to everybody, John,
figured out. Yeah, he looked at the regis.
He cut that shit off. I don't need to go to Spotify.
I don't got Spotify. Yeah, you got to pull it up.
Oh, are you going to show you? I'll show you.
He just want to show where he is.
You know, he'll get a chance to be on Apple.
They will amplify him. They will amplify him anyway because he's on the machine.
He'll get a chance to be on Apple.
So you're going to get all these recommendations anyway, at.
Nah, they don't give me a recommendation.
That's the fucking they do inside of the system of, they do a recommendation joint.
So they might say, if you listen to this, you listen. They're going to recommend you anyway.
Right.
What you're talking about?
No.
Right.
No.
Yes.
Come on.
They recommend you in the skin,
man.
You can't even pull the shit up.
Hold on.
First of all,
that's not even a,
that's just a playlist of music.
I don't know why they got that on there.
But yeah,
we got,
where y'all at?
Are we right there?
We on both charts.
Okay.
In top ten on both.
I see y'all.
I see y'all.
We're talking about we and fuck through he be.
What?
At the end of the day,
at the end of the day,
it's not no competition.
We're in the game.
There's so many people watching us.
I'm not a hater.
I always say,
I give a few people,
like credit as kind of ushering in a wave
especially for music, I always
go, even though me and this thing I had problems before,
Peter Rosenberg, Wad Epstein,
you know, got to do
Combat Jack.
He's a legend.
And Free my God, man.
And Norrie knew you got, you got, Joe,
they legends of this game.
Exactly.
Like, them dudes created late.
Go ahead, tax.
Oh, yeah, Tax.
Don't forget Tax.
Can't forget Tax, man.
Tax Stone was the first
Techstone was the first
God that brought you to his podcast
brought me to his podcast
before I even knew
what the fucking podcast was
like me ain't come up
him like what the fuck is that
he like it's like a radio show man
I'm gonna be chopped it up with him
that was years ago
so shout out the tax
Can I call Joe the squashy beef now?
We ain't got no beef
fuck you talking
We ain't got a beef with Joe
Why you keep saying that
Doug?
All right man
Listen to you don't get
I just talk a little shit
I don't know he talk
We talk shit
He's a shit talking
I don't get me too I ain't got no beef
with Joe, man.
You can call Joe if you want.
Joe better rapper than he.
That's only he can.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fucker, you're talking about.
Call Joe about that.
Call him right now.
Call him right now.
I'm fucking Joe don't respect that dick
a little more.
Complex's over.
That's like Joe told him getting rid of that,
he's small fry.
I already used to live with Joe too, man.
He used to live in Joe house too, man.
Joe can't get him off a complex.
Huh?
How long do you live with Joe?
No, that's the other dude that was high in detergent.
That's not me, brother.
Oh, stop hating on more, more.
I ain't going to go over there.
I don't beat you to fuck down.
I don't know what the fuck out of it.
How do you know what was in?
How you know what was him?
No, because that's what Joe said.
Come on with the dumb shit.
You shoot that.
Nick, he was high in the turkey.
Come on, you respect to the man.
I may ask you a question.
No, I'm dumb.
He really jealous because Joe left him for Maw and Rory.
That's what you're jealous.
No, you jealous.
No, you jealous.
They got the own show.
They got the back from who.
Nguer, you know what I know the game.
They got back from who?
Who?
Do you just made the announcement?
From who?
Stetcher?
You can't even say the name right.
Why are you hating all those niggas
Because they get them
He's jealous
I don't say nothing
I'm going to say nothing
He's a podcast
He made because Joe cheated on him
They tried to pull back up to Spotify
After they slanted them with Joe
They want no parts
So you executive of Spotify
I'm asking you executive
I don't know what you're talking about
I know what's going on
Now he knows what's going on
Now he knows what's going on
Now there's a lot of people
out here that watch podcasts
That want to be in a podcast game
That's doing anything
What would you ask?
What would you tell them to look for if they got leverage?
Because a lot of people ain't got no leverage.
They ain't got the numbers.
If they got leverage, tell them what to ask for when going to make a podcast deal.
Tell them.
Number one, ownership makes you maintain.
The first thing is, you know, you want to, hopefully you already have a podcast.
Like my situation was a little tricky, right?
I didn't have a podcast before going there.
So you had an audience.
Right, but I had an audience.
So I had something to leverage.
The first thing you want to do, especially if you have a podcast going in,
is saying, hey, listen, I own my podcast before.
want to own it while I'm here and I want to own it while when I leave if I leave so that's probably
the main important thing right um second thing I'm gonna be honest with you you want splits
if you could get ad rev so with a podcast network they're gonna claim they're gonna give you
promotion but a lot of a lot of times when it come to brown and black people they can't
promote you in in the hood and in the culture better than you can so they're gonna just they're
going to do some quote quote marketing but it ain't going to hit the people that when you do
some good shit you're going to hit so that's all smoke commerce so the real worth is them bringing
ads to you them connecting you with you know what I mean when you're reading out the the new
Amsterdam and I see nice see I just stomp all y'all shit I big did it up that's where they're
going to come at if you could and you have the leverage be like yo listen I need a percentage of
that what they're going to try to do is say hey we're going to give you a general fee
Or we're going to just bake it in as an all-in.
Hey, we know you money-hungry.
Hey, we'll give you this all-in.
Right now.
But now you don't realize a sales team already assessed that we could run,
let's just throw our random numbers.
We can run $2 million worth of ads on their show.
But they offered you the all-in for the million.
$2 million ad on the show for the year.
For the year.
And by the way, that's a lot still.
That's a lot.
We're thinking about nobody.
Come on.
Y'all ain't seen the ad numbers.
I know they ain't shown you all that shit.
What?
Now, Dave ain't shown you all that.
Listen, listen, you keep talking about Dave.
Nah, he's not showing you that.
Listen, let me explain something to you.
Two million.
That's for one ad company.
That's nothing, bro.
I'm going to tell you some shit when it's, when it's shit old.
That's not no money.
Two million for a year.
You're talking about from one brand.
You ain't talking about from.
That's still not.
I'm going to break something down to you.
No, no, no.
I'm just giving random arbitrary numbers, right?
so think about it
let's say it's just
two million dollars right
but they signed you for a million
they own your content
they're about to license it
they're about to do all type of stuff with it
they're going to monetize it on you
they're going to step on that shit
basically
they paid you a million and
the content that you about to give them
for that year
is about it's going to make them
five or more
they're in a win
so whatever they offer you
you have to be thinking
how you can get more
and also you got to think
about how you believe in yourself
Some people look at podcasts as I'm getting a bag.
All in fees is going to, of course, entice you.
You also got a production, a production budget.
Don't forget that.
Ask for that.
Yeah.
If you can, you want to produce your podcast yourself because you got to make the product.
Like we do.
You produce it yourself, that's going to be a whole different budget other than your talent fee.
You get me?
So if you get part of the ads, you have a talent fee.
Listen, y'all.
You get me?
For some people who could even finesse and negotiate, if you had maybe a pride network or something like that,
You could also maybe put in that they got to pay your EP fee
And other fees that goes into the production
Not only just the raw production cost
But that might roll up into it
Listen
By the time you're done negotiating with them
You could probably get a hefty bag
And also if you got leverage
Of course if you got leverage
Got to have numbers
Right
And I'm gonna be honest
They're gonna play the leverage game as well
Because some company's gonna be like
Well, nigga we got all
We'll give you the money
But don't start talking that own shit
Because we'll give the money to somebody else
No, but, you know, Spotify offer you a bag
Does somebody come, I ain't gonna, you know,
there's somebody else coming out for you
Way more money than you?
Listen, I love Spotify, number one, right?
But number two,
when it came to my negotiation,
there was some super,
there was competitors in the market
that they knew of,
that, um, heavy hitters.
And, you know, they came correct on the things we wanted
for us to close.
You know?
So,
you wanted to be at Spotify, though.
But I wanted to be there
But of course
I was gonna be there
If I ain't on my shit
Right
You got guaranteed money
Right
Of course
Just making sure
Of course
Y'all got guaranteed money
Yeah, you got
A-Ref
I got some shit in there
Okay
I'm just making sure
Man
I'm making sure you are
So listen man
I couldn't negotiate
You appreciate your deal
For you
I can negotiate this
Hey
Hey listen man
You gave up a lot
Of the best
With me
Yeah
I had the best of the best
I was going to have
With you though
Who
Who?
Who you had
See the guy
With you?
Nah
I took a meeting
I took a meeting
I took a meeting with his podcast network.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I know.
You got some people.
I know some, matter of fact.
By the way, salutes, what Charlemagne's doing, I'm hopefully, I hope.
You know, he do a lot of things that I aspire to do.
I want to do a podcast.
You see this whole space, you see, I'm getting.
I know what you're doing.
We know what you're doing.
You already know what you're doing, the porn Ojoin over there.
Yeah, unbelievable porn scene.
You think I'm mad at him 22.
I'm black.
I'm black.
That's what he doing.
He told me making some bread off of that, man.
I might have to get to this.
Only fans.
You ever see some of the checks in there?
I know.
I seen the checks.
Crazy.
Yo, I see money.
He'll be in there looking chocolate off bitch's back.
So I'll only fans.
I'll do that.
I'll do that.
Yo, my nigga,
he got this girl on there.
Respectfully.
Yeah.
Shit, there's so much,
yo, there's so much money to be made out here.
Let me just tell you something.
Ain't enough buddy or my fuck
only fans for two.
They got to run rebounds.
God, they're giving out some checks on that.
Oh, fuck.
Well, they'll hone you down right now.
Let me tell you something.
Two hit only fans.
Shit, I won't be the only man.
I'll be the fuck gone.
He still got more.
He still got more.
Yeah, but hold on.
The time is changing, though.
Shit, we old school, fuck as you talk.
Times don't change for old school, niggas.
You know there's a bunch of rappers on there, right?
I don't get fuck.
Tygo on there fucking mad chicks.
Tygo on Only fans?
Yeah, you fucking like at least 46s on there.
Three-sum's, everything.
You're watching Tyke.
I mean, I was watching a video
with some beautiful woman and I see a nigger who looked
like Tyga, I wasn't really trying to look at him.
How you know it's Tiger? You just saying he looked like
Tiger. I think I know how a nigga
face looked like. Would you think I recognize his dick?
Yo, come on.
You just said, you just said
Somebody who's somebody that looked like Tiger.
No, I don't recognize Dix though. He didn't fuck out of him.
Oh, you recognized his? He was a dick
recognizable.
Oh, that's that sour shit.
Y'all too flexible, man.
He was a dick recognized.
You know, he was a dick recognized.
You know, he was flexible.
And Jill, he was a dick recognized.
Oh, you're flexible.
Oh, hell not.
Y'all too flexible dudes.
Hey, what are you serving time, man?
It don't even matter.
You're flexible, man.
Nah, man.
You're real flexible.
A little pump on there, too.
But they say you owe some taxes.
Yo, you went anybody's shit.
I'm in everybody's business.
I ain't what I do.
Wait, little punk got the only fans?
Yeah, he over there fucking a bunch of chicks too.
But you got to imagine.
In that part of their career, if you could make, and I'm just throwing out numbers,
let's say if you can make $600,000 a month.
Minimal work.
You're making off your name.
People just have intrigue.
Tiger came on a breakfast club
said he never got paid from his music.
You just made $6 million off some shit.
For some people, it might make sense.
Music these days, like, what every rapper,
like, you know why all these rappers
are getting the NFTs?
I don't know if you are in that space here.
You know what?
All these rappers not get no money.
Like, I heard even Mika on y'all shit,
said he hasn't got, he hasn't got paid for music.
Music is not paying people no more.
Once they turn this shit into stream,
that's why they already got,
everybody in 360 deal because the brand deals you don't get the money just not from the music
the money from the music is going to go to the label because all these niggies that they're
living in some inflated lifestyle they all fly private jets they're all running up the debt
with the label the label's looking at like so okay good so we're giving you this loan you know
you ain't never going to get paid you fly first class who me coach I try to I try to fly first
class if it's over six hour flight over like three four actually now there's two you you'll go
coach yeah you somebody took a picture
me and coach the day. I thought they thought it was going to blow up.
Like, nigga, I'm not, I'm not one of the niggins who flexing like I'm on a private.
Yeah.
I never paid for, like, I googled it, though.
Y'all flew private?
No, fuck no.
I know from private.
Stop for what.
Right, private first class.
That's all the rhymes that Wayne don't wrote for you and then flew private with him.
Yeah, I flew private before, but not with Wayne.
You never paid for it, though.
No, fuck no.
I'm paying for no private.
You pay for first class, though.
First class is different than private, though.
First class, I'm always, I live in first class.
I don't live in private.
They took a picture of me because, you know, I was drooling.
You were asleep drooling?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was bad.
It was bad.
And where did it go?
They did it's not an ass dick of academics.
Yo, they violate you because I talked to it.
You know, people are so foul, but that's what happens when you see people like in person
versus online, super nice person.
I mean, I had a middle seat.
You know what I mean?
They didn't be wrong, right?
You did.
Right, so like, listen, man.
You didn't too much money being in a middle seat, man.
You damn right, but listen, we booked the flight two hours before.
What could I do?
You know what's either you did not come back or wait some time because you got your
your luxurious experience you want.
I got to move, right?
So I'm sitting between these people.
Now, listen, man, I'm not the smallest nigga.
You know, also I was tired as fuck.
So I think my head was on the shoulder a little bit, but I was drooling.
The nigga took a video of me right here on the shoulder, drew like the moment.
He said, look at this fatt-ass nigger right here, sucking up all the head in this plane.
Vollated me, man.
And by the way, and, like, he was nice to me like in person because he woke me up, oh, we landed.
I'm like, oh, shit, oh, shit.
You pulled and took that and posted that.
Right.
And made fun of yourself.
Make fun of myself.
Yeah.
Yeah, man, it's life.
Because you're talking about that's life.
And I make fun of myself, though.
It's cool.
You can't be so serious.
Yeah, you know that ass naked.
I mean?
I learned about that from, like, Soldier, though.
Like, Soldier Boy, kind of, I think he made fun of me one time, and I took it serious.
And I was like, yo, I realized how stupid I looked.
I was like, because I make fun of people hoping they would take it the way I wanted to take it.
But it's different when the shoes on the other foot.
Now, let me ask you a question.
Who the top rappers in the game and why?
Top rappers in the game.
We got to say, number one, I'm going.
And be a young boy.
Best rapper in the game.
Not best, but top.
And what I mean top rapper is that?
What is you judging by?
Is you judging by numbers, YouTube, Instagram?
He's not on the gram.
I'm judging by strictly the mere fact that it's all organic.
And who number two?
I thought nothing was organic.
Everything got digital marketing on it.
If you see how he moves, it's hard for the label to do.
Like, I talk to his label.
His label would be like, yo, he do what he wants.
We tell him don't do shit.
We tell him no more albums.
And he's like, nope.
album again. That's why, you know, obviously on the business side, it kind of hurts him because
like when you're saying, hey, well, I drop three albums, they said, Nicky, we told you only
drop one. We ain't credit you for two. So it kind of hurts him sometimes, but it keeps up that
organic buzz. You walk around like, you know, anywhere in middle America, any inner city, you're going
to see a lot of these kids who look up to him like he's a voice of their generation.
I think that's very important. I got to go with my man, little baby. I think when it comes to,
you know, putting, you know, melody and swag and, you know, having a street component and, and
definitely lyrics together number three little dirk i think little dirk is giving people
a reality dirky oh he's he's giving you're big as groupie oh really yeah now he's given
people a look into reality where you know it's a little bit honestly i'm gonna say it borderlines
what we what people loved but even hated about like when drill was drill because
he only rapping about real shit
if you listen to his lyrics and you follow
his situations he only raping about real shit
you're not rapping about nothing fictional
four all right
four
we just told him out
is it the hottest
man we ask you your top five
could I put Drake in there or is like
we know you're in love with Drake nigga
yeah I ain't love with Drake man yes you is
nigga you want love with Drake my nigga
Jake my nigga man I'm not gonna count him
I'm not going to come because I want to give the new artist, you know, some Sean.
I'm going to put Uzi in there, man.
Okay.
I'm going to put Uzi in there.
I just feel like to this day, I feel like his music, he's learning to evolve in his own way.
You know, he's not a traditional mainstream artist, but his music is still connect with the youth.
And I think he's learning to get the respect of the people who, you remember when he went on a 97-chop playing for his lyricism.
These days he drops records, he show you that he can rap.
He show you why he's Philly.
I'm going to put him there.
Five.
Five.
Damn.
Man, there's so many people who pass away to.
I would have easily filled that spot, whether it was X, Pop Smoke, no juice, or other people.
But for five, and I'm going with current living people.
I'm going to go with money bag, yo, man.
That's a good choice.
Fire.
I'm, fuck you mean why.
No, I'm exactly.
He broke everybody's shit down, though.
I'm just, you know, my God.
He's heard that nigga bars.
But he broke everybody down.
Go ahead.
Yo, Moneybag, yo, has, like, this unique ability of just kind of like, it's packaging for me.
You know, like, he's not saying nothing that nobody ever said.
But, like, the way he says it and the way how it kind of comes across, like, not only is believable, it's always, like, it fit those criteria of, like, you always want to sing.
always memorable now now you you dropped mostly the younger dudes what's the name yeah i want five of
like motherfuckers like the gates the thugs the uh the futures the 21s and all you know
everybody else is out there that's outside of that yeah who 21 i think that self-explanatory i feel
like yo 21 is kind of given a um a whole blueprint of and when it comes to like you know artists
who like for example when i see an ardor wick i feel like
like, it remind me
21.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
So, like,
I feel like
21's his own
thing,
quality over quantity.
He's super,
like super streets,
super connected,
but also he understands
music.
Someone put them in there.
Too.
I got to throw thug.
That's my nigga.
Thug was probably going to be one.
But,
but really is like...
Thug got my favorite record right now.
What's the one?
Because I love you
more than anything.
So,
so I got to put Thug in it
because Thug,
you know,
This is like influence right here.
Thug is like, I love every, I love his growth.
No, number one, he's one of the best musicians, period.
Mm-hmm.
But, like, rapping, amazing.
But I think, like, his style and how humbly is to, like, let other people build off of his shit.
It reminded me of Kanye, back when, back when Kanye kind of started doing some experimental shit
and other people took it and took it in their own direction.
I see a lot of people who take influence from Thug.
And I see Thug support them or Thug try to, like, help them in some type of way.
reminds me of what Gucci would have done.
Right.
So...
Three.
All right.
Let me see who else.
We ain't just talking about Atlanta niggas, right?
No, nigger, we're talking about the game.
I got to go with, like, I still got to go with, like, Kendrick.
Okay.
Kendrick Drake?
Five.
And, um...
I know the easy thing we just throwing cold, but I got to go with Future, man.
Future?
Like, your future is literally
The future is going to go down
It's probably
When you think about how important
One artist is to a city
He's probably the most important artist
For his city
Compared to any other artists for their city
I agree with that
And I think that's like a nod
That you can't ever disrespect
Real talk
You know?
Real talk
I think Gucci man got that same type of respect
Yeah, yeah
Yeah
100%.
Gucci put a lot of niggas on.
You know, you say what you want about Gucci,
but Gucci responsible for a lot of niggas.
And to me, that's the true testament
of your motherfucking, of your legacy.
How many niggas you help.
How many niggas you pulled about the water?
How many niggas you gave an opportunity
to be great in life?
So, you know, shout out to Gucci man, too.
But, act, we appreciate you for coming on.
It's the longest motherfucking podcast we ever did in life, man.
No, meek was longer.
He was?
Yeah.
Good.
How long was me?
Uh, 2.30, uh, 2-hant-oh.
Oh, shit.
We do the hour.
This is two hours and 15 minutes.
For real?
You don't have to do all that long drawing.
I'll be doing three hours, four hours.
You know, you're a Joe Button student.
Yeah, you'd be drinking beer all the time.
I don't do you know.
I don't drink.
You drink 40s.
Drink beer, snook, and talk about shit for three hours.
I don't know who snore coke.
Don't know.
Don't let me with that.
One of y'all had to be like a pillhead or a dusthead.
One of your hunting.
You smoke.
You just smoke wet.
You just smoke to get straight, get butt-knacket.
You smoke that PCP.
Hey, I just put this.
You were this from Jersey?
Well, I mean, I'm born in Jamaica, but I came over there.
New Jersey Drive.
He was a car thief.
I mean, no, no, I'm a screw of here.
He was a car thief, no.
New Jersey Drive.
Uh-huh.
Shout out of all my Jersey people, man.
We were still a Honda's out.
You know what?
Shout out of all you, Honda is still in Jersey, niggas.
Well, who's still a guy?
He didn't know about New Jersey Drive.
You never seen the movie?
I never watched it.
Oh, my God.
Get this thing out of here.
Send this nigga back to Jamaica.
Send his mood that fuck out back to Jamaica.
Me don't know the dime's called.
It's Africa, nigger.
That's Africa.
Me, you don't know the damn face.
You want to scroll face.
You found them to die themselves.
What's your favorite American artist?
A Vox Cartel.
Voscarat's my favorite artist all time, ever.
Okay.
Speak pot-wide, nigger.
Dog, how are we at table, dog?
You'll be talking to me talking to, dog.
You'll be buying a Spanish tone in Jamaica.
I'm going to grow up in a clarendon before we move over there.
You know a couple of things.
He don't know.
He does.
My favorite artist is all time is Jamaican artist.
I think he's the best artist.
There's no other artist on this earth that even comes within a centimeter.
A centimeter of him.
And it's Vibs Cartel.
You know, he currently incarcerated for, like, a murder or whatever.
But, you know, when it comes to, like, you know, actually living your craft also being the best at everything, he was the best dude with melodies, the best dude with, you know, bars or lyrics or whatever.
He was always somebody who pushed the culture forward.
And the culture to this day, like, he's in prison.
He still put out music.
It still lives on his back.
The greatest artists, I've never seen any artists have more influence.
on a genre and I'm talking about I don't care if you could say Bob Marley Elvis
Beatles vibes cartel and his influence on Jamaican music at least contempt
than Bob I can get the fuck out of here more the boy boy more let's talk about
my boy get you get your light ass out of here boy with you know more than Bob Marley
my Marley's influence world like vibe cartels but he didn't know better than fucking
my marley's influences worldwide what of course now Bob Marley's
influences worldwide.
But Bob Marley
don't talk to those youths
in the garrison.
You want me to listen to this shit.
You don't talk to the ghetto people like how,
just like how you say
certain artists, like how meek probably
you say talk to things in the trenches,
there's been no artists.
You say Bob Marley.
You want me to listen to this shit?
I tell you.
I tell you you cut me to fuck off the list of this shit.
He wasn't fucking living when Bob Marley was out.
He don't know who the fuck Bob Marley
talked to.
He wasn't fucking living when Bob Marley
was doing a stick.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Don't put me against another Jamaican artist.
I love him.
Let me just tell by some American artists
or something shit.
For Ronnie Marley,
cut you out here
and bless you to fuck home.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, play this.
Play this.
Whatever influence you, I think
Jay Z had on hip-hop,
he ain't had for what cartel had on dance on.
Facts.
Personally, I think Tupac had,
I think Dr. Dries
is the most influential nigger.
I think,
there's Tupac-esque level.
There's Tupac-Marl is the most
influential nigga in hip-hop
of all time.
But that's just me.
You know what I mean?
But we appreciate you for coming through
shot that vibes cartel.
Free that man.
But you damn show
one fucking with Bob Marley you hear me
and it's just like that right
