Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 147: 2021 RECAP

Episode Date: January 3, 2022

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Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free on Amazon Music. Right! Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, let some young niggins free style off this shit. Oh, uh, uh, uh, uh, let some young niggins free style off. Go ahead, Walo-spi-huh.

Me... Me... me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, Million dollars worth a game. I had a fur to rap on YouTube. On the first rapper to have his own video game concert. I was the first rap on Twitch. I had the first rapper with the iPhone. Walo was the first rapper to throw a barbecue in the prison on the lawn.

I wasn't, bitch. Fuck out of it, bitch. I mean, Tadjikort yourself looking at a little chubby C-O. Like, yeah, they start turning to be bad after that. You ain't that much time with me? You went that quick. Five months without no pussy? Five months.

Listen, man. I go on YouTube, I see a video. This nigga is talking about, oh, yeah, this nigga's a sucker. He's holding up a sign at the slut. Brick it! I was mad at you. I listened to your music. You were gangster.

So if y'all not showing that Spotify charts, I don't know what we talk about. Where y'all at? Are we right there? We on both charts. Okay. He's on top ten on both. I'll see y'all. I see y'all.

We're talking about where y'all and fuck do he be. I really came from the neighborhood and to a small school and unknown. and I've made it to, like, the highest level. I can give it to people on a level that's more real than probably anybody else can. So basically, when I'm in LA, I ain't got to get a hotel. You know, I'm a counselor for you. I can come right down there and post up.

They ain't even in the couch. I got the bed wrong for you. Oh, wait, where? Oh, man. I'm going to put a sign right here. Why no room? No. No.

I don't believe it. We never did shot the late, great DMX out on our podcast, man. So, you know, we sent out our deblest condolences, you know, to the legend. He made. How United States of America Like dogs I remember it was once in a time Where it wasn't a lot of dogs

Yeah like Like 1995, 96 I don't remember seeing dogs like that Damn You put the do rag over the mark I ain't have a pop filter Yet I'm a business static And so I'm put the do ring

And then get it on Big girl gonna stroke your ego She's gonna appreciate you You know you gotta go Where you celebrate Not with you tolerating Well you fucking right I still bust a big bitch up

I ain't doing no I'll brush your ass This shit right here It's stronger than MC Hammer socks After a concert And you know he had a big thick-ass socks Or with a plastic shoes He used to be dancing for like 42 songs straight

For years New York City I'm talking about New York New York Never claimed Buffalo But they're claiming y'all Norie sat right here on the couch I said tell me some niggas in New York

That's popping He said What's the hell the guy? I said Nick, they're from Buffalo. Remember you said that shit, no way right here. You need me or you want me. It's a difference. Because if you want me, I don't have been through that situation before.

If you're telling me you need me, your brother going to be there. Look at this nigger, man. He's six with five. This is a problem. You're not allowed to have friends that play basketball, man. You look at this. You know, Cookie Face. You know, that was Mama, you know.

Mr. Leslie. Mr. Leslie used to call him Cookie Feast. I'm going to call him Cookie Feast. That's my brother right there. He's just in his face when you said that shit. Like, nigger, what the fuck? Yes, sir. I was boxing, too, you know.

I went down there through the mouthpiece, and I put my ones and twos together. Boy, knock my mouthpiece out. I'd be tired. I'd be tired. No, I'd be tired of them. You know what I was at. But I was going to be where you was at, too.

I said, damn, I'm going to be a chance. In your mind, you was like me champ, so that mouthpiece came out. I'm going to be, listen. The mouthpiece came out. That mouthpiece is vicious. And life changed. I mean, I ain't chasing the money.

It's a bigger picture for me. What's the bigger picture? Change the world. When we get out there today, just do your job. My job is to put him on his ass. My job is to dominate this cornerback over here. My job is to clog up the holes on the running back. Just understand what your job is and don't try to do too much.

Let's not leave nothing out there, fellas. We wouldn't miss this shit for the world. You hear me? They have not whistled it so they're going to pick up and all the way down the sideline. There's C.J. Holmes. After the play, a sportsman like cund up against Jackson State, bitch. That's undiscipline.

Now they get a first down. That comes to us. I was running down to the end zone to celebrate. And when I got down, we had to meet him the call. I'm sorry, coach. I didn't know your player was going to call for me to boss. I didn't know what happened until I got on the plane after the game. And I was going through my text message and all that.

And I said, Gilly? That was. Really? Coach, I just want to say, play it's messed up too. This dude, he put Reggie in his body, so he smoked bullshit weed.

Come on, dog. He smoked bullshit weed and drank 40s on a lot. I'm putting it out there. He drank 40s. He drank ICFs. ICS. Yeah, I see it.

You got a tiger, white tiger. What, that? You bought a tiger, nigga, nicke. Yeah. White tiger, co-cund. How much the fuck did you pay for a tiger, man? Like 30. It was like a favorite.

How big is it now? Yeah, it's a fucking full-grown tiger now. Wally, how many you did, though? I did 20. Word. You know what? Yeah, I did 20. This ain't funny, but you see that nigga eyes?

Word. Because opportunity is more important than money, man. 100%. That's what motherfuckers got to understand. Opportunity. That's how you're going to get the money. Way greater than money. 100%.

Goddamn, with how big this nigga here is. Now, we talk about a Logan Wong, a YouTuber. For a hundred nil? Give me that. You ain't got to go to Logan Paul. You can beat me to fuck up for 50. Yeah, get out to the deal. Come on.

By just sign this artist, their artist, and this artist. All of them are feeling to be bigger than a young dog ever been. We go to Escobo. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. He really like coming to Philly. He's naming the good shit. Would he get you the chicken cheese stick?

And the Gremlin. Oh, fry. That nigga, six, seven. I did you say you get a small fry. That nigga, six, seven, man. You get that nigga a small fry. I can change this shit by just putting love in there. I change it by saying fuck all of them and let's do what they did to us.

But no, let me love them and show them how to love. You could be a real nigger without trying to be a gangster, without trying to, you know, do anybody wrong. That's not what make you a real nigger. Even money, none of that shit don't make niggas real niggas to me. We don't niggas, you hear me? We don't niggas. Make them noise for God, yay, West.

So all the young niggas out there Respect the OGs And understand that one day If you lucky You'll be OJ Because I'd hate that had to get that call From Kanye, damn, damn, Doug Yeah

You don't want to get the car from him, man Oh my God He'll drop a album Just from being mad at one nigga Who he'll normally have on an album Like I'm about to drop a motherfucker album, this nigga got me fucked up Yeah, this nigga

Somebody took a shit in my house It's okay though You was four and a half minutes into the man crib, bro. You got a good, yeah. You were supposed to least hold it for a little. You said taking shit, I took my shit. What I'm saying? You said, you're fucking telling me.

Bro, nobody just walked right into nobody's crib, bro. As bad as the Lions is playing somebody got a win this fucking decade. Knock it down. You're not playing no games? They try to say I killed hip-hop. I birthed the new hip-hop way. I'm the reason why it's YouTube streaming all that. You feel what I'm saying?

Oh. Hey, Movier to jump in that man pool, man. I jumped in the pool. I couldn't go home for a little. movie to jump in a man pool, man. He played one game of basketball. And then jump in that man pool. If you want to make an album once a year, your career's finished.

You will not keep up with these kids. I heard, I heard KG say some crazy shit to LeBron. Oh, I'm going to give you that one. Gob a chas nigger. Shoot it, your bum-ass knicker. I didn't see that. Just reading his lips on TV. Bitch-ass, niggas, niggas.

Take the snig out the fucking gang. All that shit, all that shit. Yeah, the nigger tried me again. What he said? Ho! At the end, he left me on scene. Oh, you bitch-ass niggins. Watch, watch this.

O.Gs don't condone and gossip, niggins. Oh, he checks you. He checks you, nigga! He checked you. Hey, he did send me a message, but I ain't seen that. No, no, we screen-shined that. I need that. Me and the DM, my shit is effective.

My shit don't really miss. Discord determined to be a real DJ or not. Yeah. How many dollar parties did you DJ in your life? How many parties? I ain't never done no dollar parties. Oh, you didn't do $5,000. You didn't do that.

Yeah, I ain't stuck, nigga. I know that. You're drinking sitting here, a fucking 42 rings on a blessed. A Mr. T blessing. A Mr. T blessing. Forty-two Tories. I eat eggs. I'm going to mind my tongue long in his head.

I'm going to put my whole tongue in this bitch of ass, man. You should have called me and Gilly for the big. We could have been the big two. No, no, no, no. Y'all don't want none of that. Come to a game. Check it out. Check it out up close.

Check it out up close, man. You don't want anything. He's hit now. Five, five, boy. Okay. This shot. Game. I'm lying.

That's y'all a question. Y'all niggas slam. I don't really know the minors. You said something about the fed, so I ain't fucking slum. These niggas be operating off of ego, man. Because I'm a dude that did 20 years in prison. I don't want nobody to go to jail. That's why I push the message that I do.

outside of other things because it's like, yo, that shit ain't cool. That shit ain't cool. Begins with passion, bro. I was obsessed with weed and I was very passionate about it. And I still am. And that's why I'm still doing it, even with all the bullshit we deal with. So you got to be passionate about something for you and try to build something. You went diamond in the head and y'all own all that shit right now?

Yeah. God damn. The one thing I didn't know is that B's shit a lot. So they shitted on you. So they shitted on it. You got to have the mentality to win. If you don't got that mentality, you're done. You're done.

CJ probably the most trash-talking player I'd never play with it, but... C.J. McCone? Yeah. You'd be talking crazy? What? What? Y'all, hey, y'all have no idea. When you was playing football, you was doing your thing.

What position? I'll just shook the shit out you in the hole. I'm just telling you. Listen, you're too small. I don't think it. I'll have shook this shit out of even a hole. I don't think. There's nothing stronger in building.

holding your YouTube page and harnessing your fans someplace where you can serve them. Real talk between every member of Griselda, we're going to give you every sound possible of hip-hop. It's not one sound that we can't do. You have a passion for something and it's burning. It's your job to curate that passion. I really believe that. You don't take nose for answers. If you really, really committed to that and you have a work ethic, and that's the answer there.

Ron became the hero I became the villain they needed to playoff for that You know you can't put no kind of ego in and create music Absolutely I feel like that's being as selfish to the music song I'm getting by you

Right here I don't matter come on I'm gonna get by you It's over with I ain't over with I ain't have my cleats on I don't have my cleats on That's all the line That's unfulfully. I can't trust you for it.

Watch this. What's this? No, I live in Jersey. I've learned one important rule, man. Stay out of Philly business, man. That's all. Stay out of this shit. I signed a good music.

That was my first check signed by Donda West. Signed by Donda West. I got a frame. I keep telling you, Younger, there's a reason why I've been able to be relevant. able to be relevant for 20 plus years. Because no matter what I'm doing, he's not more outworked me. My first love was baseball.

Yeah? Yeah, I thought I was going for baseball. So what's the greatest advice of OG ever gave you in prison? Like on some real shit? Other than don't sleep on your stomach. No, that's... Like some real shit? I know that was funny, big, big bro laughed.

Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. He wanted them niggins. He wanted them niggins. He got to let the nigg know I ain't going to smile. A nigga thing is sweet. You're now tuned into me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Million dollars worth a game Between the weed and the liquor

In the cars and the ice And the women in them flights In them long Vegas nights Niggas stay dripping with that Guccione Bitches and them Louis Paton's When your money right that bring the groupies on Move alone I don't need them I ain't even bragging nigga

I'd have more bitches than you could imagine nigga I pull up in that asking right You should see them asking like swagger right Money's on my appetite I'm in the streets chasing it Y'all niggas faking it I'm trying to get liquor rich I'll be chasing money Nigger I don't chase a bitch

But they chase gilly though How don't lock Philly though Really dope 24 7 Always on my grind So that mean that paper nigga always on my mind Spent a pretty penny on the shine

Gotta count a quarter mill Up I need a little time Shit Bless some young niggas freestyle off this shit You know what I mean Metro! Bless some young niggas freestyle off this Metro shit

And I was just talking a little shit You know real quick But uh We just blessed y'all real quick With this motherfucking Metro booming Hit that shit one more time for him while up Metro And it's just like that, nigga

Like you're always giving some in the way What's that about? It were hard on us growing up, bro. Yeah Bro I swear to God, bro, I remember walking out the house walking down the street

and to go around my boy's house wherever I'm going around my cousin's house brother just thinking bro cause just like damn bro I wish we had like like bro damn bro I wish I had somebody pull up on me and just throw me a dog throw me a like

damn bro I wish no I'm saying like yeah man I just bro like I don't know bro like I just remember all this shit everything like just sleeping on the floor the my partner's day situation is just everything so it's like i just be thinking to myself like bro do some shit you ain't ever did i mean do some shit for somebody that ain't you ain't never never did shit with you right now i mean my whole thing be just the guild right i mean because you listen to me right nobody never gave me shit i ain't know what this is that this

so me i just be like bro shit me do that shit for somebody you know what i mean like like That's some dope shit I won't I was gonna give somebody 100,000 but I had to think about this shit and they were like

man bro you get that one person that 100,000 that's cool but bro that's only one shot and there's one like

that one person getting that 100,000 and like brother split it up bro and get away 25,000 to four different people

bro shit I would have gave 10,000 to 10 people you're right you're right You feel what the same thing? The same thing.

Because for me, if I'm giving you some money, I'm kind of having my people do a little background check on you because I really want this $10,000 to go to some motherfuckers that need it. I ain't trying to get this $10,000 to a motherfucker who already got a bends in a motherfucker's wife got a BMW parked in it. And this is going to pay his motherfucking mortgage for the next four months. No, I need this motherfucker to go to, to a motherfucker in the hood

as soon as they get this bitch they're going to go get some new sneaks they get some fucking crabs you feel what I'm saying they're doing some real live we got some couple dollars we want to this we're going to celebrate thank you

you don't you feel what I'm saying so for me you know and pay some bills and you know what I'm saying so for me that's how I would have looked at it you know what I mean but the fact that you're giving out $25,000 to four people 100,000 dollars a year, hard-earned money. To me, that's a hell of a...

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You have so many people, artists come and go. You know, I see like 6,000 artists come and go eight, 336 months, right? Literally. What was your keys, you know, to your stand power? What was the whole, the blueprint to your stand power? all his time and still being relevant in the coach of now and tomorrow. Um, I would say it just,

just staying who I am, but also adapting. I know staying who you are, even that at some point going to get old. You know what I'm saying? But you got to be able to stay who you are and adapt to what's going on. And that's,

that's the thing that's going to keep you. It's just like how technology keep going. But without wave riding. Right. Nah, you can't, you can't jump wave to wave. Because when the wave, the wave going to keep changing. Right. So what's you going to do?

The wave and hip hop going to change maybe every two, three years. So if you ride in a wave, what you're going to do when it change? Try to jump on the next wave. You're just going to grab your surfboard and just be a, you just ride niggas wave. You're just a surf like, right. You're a fucking surf for out here. And the reason I talk about longevity, because when you look at the game, you was on electric, Atlantic, Desert Storm, Def Jam, Rock Nation,

I'm talking about you had So you know what he just said To all the young niggas You know what he just told y'all Without telling y'all That Fab is a hustler He said

He said you just was on check Check check check check check check And he wasn't talking about no nikes And being able to get the check Through all of those situations Is based on your relationship Absolutely Relationships is worth more than money

Absolutely so will you disrespect on the way up you're going to see them on the way down understand that and and you know I know certain niggas they you know our niggas be hot so they're hardheaded because they hot you know what I'm saying they could say whatever they want to do that but that ain't going last forever either absolutely now when you when you ain't the hot nigger now them same motherfuckers like you said the niggas you was disrespecting and all that now they don't want to help you they don't want to do nothing for you they don't you're not the same hot nigger from three years ago but they had to put up with your shit right is radio did um um

I'll tell you what is dead I'm going to give a good description of radio if you're a guy who got a couple slick words and you want to go on the radio no one's going to care about you if you I'm going to give a good radio lesson that you can also apply to just being a personality

or rapper DJ you have to have your soul social media cracking and when I say cracking know what you want to be you have to have your social happening you got to be out with the people if you're a DJ you're rap you know you got to say talented but you definitely got to be persistent you have to you have to push your craft whatever you believe in you have to push it if you really believe in it and you push it now if you're just a person sitting there intro on records, radio is dead for you.

To the rappers that say, you know, the up-and-comber rappers, they're like, fucking DJ. I don't need no fucking DJ. Radio stations, I can use the internet. I don't need you all. I agree. I agree.

I think that they just need the internet. I think the internet and the digital space and everything else will serve its purpose for them, but radio makes superstars. If you do not, if there is a cap in, the Apple, Spotify, title space where you can go.

Look, like NBA Young Boy is a perfect example. He is a YouTube phenomenon. But there's a lot of people in the everyday world that doesn't know who he is, you know? But if you can get both, if you can be coal and come out of there and get a couple number ones, you know, you, you're, you're, you're a very big artist. You know, you're going to tour, you're going to, you know, a lot of things is going to happen for you.

Unfortunately, if you're a rapper and you only have radio, expect there to be a halt in your career at some point quicker. And if you only have the digital space, expect to have a halt in your career at some time, too. The two together are the perfect, it's the perfect match. Incredible. It's, it's undeniable, my brother. But for the up-and-coming artists, I don't think radio serves a big purpose for them. There's nothing stronger than building your YouTube page

and harnessing your fans someplace where you can serve them your music. Whatever platform, too, that is for you. I like YouTube, yeah, but, you know, if it's your Instagram, look at the baby. To me, the baby breaks every one of his songs off. his Instagram page. I always knew.

I always know what's new with the baby from his Instagram page. If he's in his car, he's mouthing those words for 60 seconds. I know what's the new

the baby record. And I don't know if I've seen someone of recently doing it that way. I mean, I commend a lot of people. You know, it went from stages.

Remember, Little Wayne was a tape's dropping. Oh, my God. William tapes dropping. there was always one or two records that went off the tape that the label would pick up YouTube has replaced the mixtape

SoundCloud all those things they've replaced the mixtape So you're running deaf jam I'm running up numbers at death jam Running up numbers at deaf jam What that means is I'm trying to put some talent in the building I'm trying to help the people that's over at the building and just restore the feeling of Def Jam

because I'm a big fan of Deaf Jam because I'm a big fan of Def Jam Records. I remember when Dev Jam Records ran the music industry, their music was the shit, their spirit was they shit, the jackets. The logo is the shit. The logo is crazy. Come on, my niggas.

So I'm just a West Coast nigga that love that shit, and I wanted a job over there so I can help restore the feeling. And the first thing I'm doing is putting this record, our algorithm, which has a lot of classic Dev Jam artists on it, and then it has a lot of new artists from Dev Jam. And then it's got some friends of mine's on there as well. So I just wanted to come and do sort of kind of like what Caled is doing.

You know, Caled is doing a great job of, you know, doing the compilation albums and putting that talent out there and, you know, being a spotlight to the talent. So I just wanted to come compliment

the industry and do what I do and just break the algorithm by putting out some music that feel good and not just sound good. And I remember one time when Def Jam was going hard on the West when he got Warren. They got a bun, didn't.

Montel Jordan. This is how we do. You know, that's a Dev Jam record? Yeah, wasn't Doveshack on? Doveshack, Dobshsie, Richie, you had a bunch of people from West Coast.

It was on their heavy in the 90s. It was Def Jam West. Yep, Def Jam West was heavy in the 90s. But a lot of people don't know that Def Jam had like everybody, J, Murder, Inc. Everybody was over there. Man, to be on Def Jam Records was a dream come true. It was a shit.

Like, if there wasn't no DeafJ records, our damn sure would have been on Def Jam. Warren G got a chance to make it to Dev Jam record. Did he? Yes, he did. And when he went to Dev Jam records, he changed the whole shape of the building. He saved their ass, actually, financially, you know what I'm saying?

It's documented. I read that on Russell Simmons's books. A life of death Yeah, because Russell was a real nigga He's gonna tell him like it is Not like it was You know, get credit with credit as he did You know, but at the same time

It's like that's like That's how much we love that building We love Dev Jam We love what it's stand for We love the The originals You know, the fucking Slick Rick Beastie Boys

Everybody LL Cool J EPMD No Run DMC was on profile It wasn't on Def Jam That shit The origins of that shit That made us Yes

That made us one of the world Public Enemy Come on, man, the bomb squad Hank Shockley And everybody was over there I'm gonna do some music with Hank Shockley I made him about a month ago He's a fucking he's a legend I told him I said

Cud let's work together because I just want to see What it's gonna sound like Let me ask you a question Let me ask you a question At that time I can't even ask you this You're gonna pick you're gonna Hank or Dre Is they neck and neck

They tied Thank you Because what Hank was doing for the East Is what Dre was doing for the West And I feel like they shit was so similar But it wasn't Because Hank would take samples He would take search

Crazy. He would make brothers and sisters. I don't know what this was. His sample game was crazy. Just like Drey's was. I mean, let's keep it one thousand. Yeah, they would sample up. They were sampled kings. Where did Ice Cube go when he left Drex?

He went right to Hank. And what did shit sound like? His shit went to another level. America's Most Wanted. Okay, then. Hank Shockley, he did all public enemy shit. He did Ice Cube first shit. If you don't know, he's a fucking legend.

This dude is a... I'm talking about, think about walking to the Teradone. Preach. Don't believe the hype. Terminator X. Terminator X. All that shit. And then you just think about all the ice cube

first year, Hank is a fucking legend. Describe your audience, man, because y'all got a real, rather unique audience. I came to the Sony Hall thing. Wes I had to join the Sony Hall. Kyle was there, you wasn't there, I don't think. That's when I threw the money back in the crowd. You threw the money back in the crowd when you had to read,

the red, my clear one. It was a crazy night. I'm telling me. They paid me for the show. He threw the money back. He threw the money back. He threw the money back. It was crazy.

I got that somewhere on my phone. But what was crazy about it was like, I'm looking at the audience, but the people that was coming through Q-tip came through. A bunch of different people came through that night. Your audience, describe your audience and why it's so different than anybody else's. Man, I want to describe it because

like I always tell this story, like you know, these niggas is my family. When they got wind under their wings with this rap shit, you know what I'm saying? I was somewhere else doing me. So I got to see it how everybody else saw, but early. I'm saying? We was kicking it earlier upstairs

about how, like, you asked them when they first got, You know what I mean? And me, I had to realize it like everybody else. These niggas coming around with rollies on and doing shit. I'm like, fuck these niggas doing. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Real shit.

And I paid close attention. I remember I'm going to the show in Boston in 2016. I drove from Buffalo about eight hours of Boston. These niggas had a show told me pull up. I'm still living in a project. Just early, early, early. And I've seen it. It was Boston.

It was like hardcore hip-hop people. People who believe in this shit. It was grown people who can afford to buy. $100 items. It was people who opinion mattered because they golden era fans. I'm saying? So I really think the fans, like, helped catapult Griselda to a certain point because, you know, it's what the game been missing.

You know, a lot of people say that, but it's literally what the game been missing. So it's real hardcore fans, and I learned from the fans. I'm like, damn, everybody would be chasing the kids, but a kid can't afford. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's certain, you know, kids ask their parents for money. Our fans are the parents, you know what I'm saying, who could come, who go travel and get in hotel rooms and getting flights to a Griselda show and stand in the line for the meet and greet and buy merch. Like I said, and most importantly, their opinions matter because they're golden age hip hop fans. So when they say, no, Griselda is this.

We know, we listen, we come from that. They're qualified to get y'all that type. They're going to put that stamp on y'all. They got a certificate of proof because it's like, no, we grew up knowing this type shit. because like I tell people when I went to that show I went to that show I was like hold up

I'm seeing all type of all type of people up in this joint it was crazy yeah because that's the thing like so you're gonna have your OG niggas that

did 10 come home and be like yo this the illest shit I heard since the 90s right you're gonna have your niggas that's selling dope

like yo you hear what these niggas talk about they're bagging up or they're riding around you know what I'm saying doing what they do to it then you got your fly niggas like yo you heard the shit them niggas said

I ain't even know niggas was on that or that's the type of shit we're on we're spending a thousand dollars for a t-shirt we know exactly what he's talking about then you know what I'm saying you got because like my son you know what I'm saying fly guy's younger he

19 just turned 19 and I'm his friend's favorite rapper you know what I'm saying because at the same time too guess what we wearing the shit they wearing you know what I'm saying so it's just like it's bridging a gap you know what I'm saying that's that's really what it is and it's wild because even like um you know I have a store so it's just like it'll be kids coming in there you know 12 13 years old with their grandmother or sitting in line you know I mean I do a drop they in line with their grandmother 11 years old 12 years old

wanting to support you know what I'm saying so it's just like it's so it's a The wide range, and you got, like I said, you got the true hip hop, you know, they figure, like, feel like they, you know, the purest, you know what I'm saying? So they love the DJ premiere, the Alchemist, the Pete Rock, you know what I'm saying? But then you got songs, like I say, you got songs like with everybody, you know what I'm saying, the defy the 50s with the bounce. It's like real talk between every member of Griselda. We're going to give you every sound possible of hip hop.

You know what I'm saying? like it's not one sound that we can't do so and i don't think nobody that's what i'm saying we're just too versatile you know what i'm saying and then it's just like we on your head top man it's too many like if i'm not dropping she dropping she ain't dropping he dropping he dropping he dropping you know what i'm saying so it's just like we on your neck you know what i'm saying we on your neck first of all i respect a lot which i'll be you know what i'm saying talk about i respect the mind says especially a black man you know what I'm saying who have clarity who have conviction who have truth to their stories and who have um an elevated just energy to him you know what I'm saying

so I'm tapped in to both of y'all and I think that's the reason why you know God is blessing you know I'm saying the reason why the universe is working with you and not against you is because you embrace that you know and you you're here to inspire and one of the things you said is like I mean I always I'm in a lot of businesses myself like I'm in the real estate you know I don't I own like a lot of land. One of my homies is the biggest owner of trailer park lands in the world and he cut me in and deal with that.

So I do real estate stuff. I got a lot of businesses, a lot of startups, some tech stuff, a whole bunch of things like that, including crypto, including a lot of things. So I'm a real firm believer. And I've invested in a lot of that stuff

instead of buying like, I mean, I do have nice jewelry and stuff. But instead of doing that, I'll be like, well, I'm going to put $250 in here. I'm going to put $2. $250 in here. I'm going to put $100 here, $50 here, do that, do that. You know, truthfully, I only have one car. I only drive one car because it's like I put my money in different places, you know

what I'm saying? I take care of my family. But it's a mindset, and we, as black men, we got to take over and do what we's here to do, you know what I mean? So I just wanted to say I respect that when you said that it stuck with me. You're talking about when I say, save your money and your money will save you? Save your money and your money will save you. And you said that your money would be working for you, you know what I'm saying?

You got to push your money is like employees. You got to put that shit to work. All right, I got a, I got a, I got an M. The M is not really an M when they knock you in your head for fucking taxes. Not as half. Sam, Sam going to come strong arm and shit out of you, no gun. You don't even see this motherfucker. The biggest gang is the government.

Yeah, you don't, you don't see him. You're going to come knocking on your head. Now you got a little, you got a little couple hundred thousand to play with. You got to put that shit to work like employees. You over here, you over here, you over here. You got to let that shit breakdance for you. Because you're not really making money. until you really, I'm talking about

when your money break dancing for you, that's when you're making money. When your money making money for you and it's risky. It's about taking risk. You're going to lose some. You're going to win some. You're going to lose some.

You're going to win some. But that's what it's all about. And a really shit of OG told me back in the day, he said, listen, man, if you know exactly how much money you got, you ain't got no money. You ain't got no money. I was like, damn.

You ain't got no fucking money. I thought I was doing something. I had a little bean, little hundred and four. thousand in the bank i'm like that hundred thousand hit different than when you can see your account hit hundred one hundred the first time the first time what nigger i thought i was doing something

nigga i was that nigga said nigga if you know how much money you got nigga you ain't got no money oh that shit ain't make no sense to me when I was young I was like the fuck you're talking about me I got money so I realize what the fuck he was talking about because when you got real money

and you got business and you and you like he said he got money in real estate he got money over here he got money over here he got money over there it's crypto he never know exactly how much money he got because he's making money every day and he's losing money every day every day i mean yeah sometimes it'll be down a hundred thousand sometimes it'll be up absolutely 200,000 like but i i got found the right people to where they you know i trust them and i and work with them and my family is on it to my brother and my mom are heavy, heavy, heavy and to have been studying it for years

before it really kind of became even more popular. You know how it's kind of more popular now? They was on that for years, so it's cool to see them how good they are and, like, you know, they'll make money and do their thing. It's beautiful. It's beautiful to just put the family to use it, what they can do too.

Absolutely. He jumbled a mac and cheese record, but he'd do it at Mac and Cheese studio. Right here. They ready. They got the studio, they're ready. They come, they get on a million dollars worth of a game. We got the studio

Down the hallway We got the studio We got the cameras Quipment all this shit Y'all don't know But it's full cameras in here Yeah It's just

You feel what I'm saying This shit up It's hard You gotta invest in what you believe We didn't wait for To get no money to invest You got the studio right there You take a few steps

We're gonna do a whole podcast Right You just did That's some real hustler shit You know me? Yeah, right Straight up That's some real

Hustler shit It can't be a hustler Hustling, not hustling. And when we say hustling, we're not talking about selling no drugs. No. It's a million things that motherfucker can sell out here. You can sell a drug.

You can sell a shirt. If you're a person, you can sell diarrhea to a shitty ass on the toilet if you're really hustling. This is if you're really hustling. You know what I'm saying, but like, when I say hustling, that was some shit.

That was some shit. You're going to sell diarrhea, shit. That's another story. But listen, what I'm saying is that you got to be willing to drop that money on that. And shit. Ain't no question.

You something? Oh, cameraman? Oh, you can shoot? Yeah, but I got this little weak camera. Come on, we're going to Bay and H. We're going right on line. How much the camera costs? $2,000.

What's you got in the MacBook? That's $1,200. All right, here you go. What you got to get to Photoshop? All right, come on. Like, come on, you got to really pull the trigger. Because if they don't see it, you ain't do it. That's real shit.

And they don't see it. I mean, nobody going to believe it. We got to, we live in a motherfucker in an era right now where seeing is believing. A lot of niggas is capping, though. but you know sometimes cap and turnover to stacking

there's a lot of niggas that then cap they fucking wait to the top you know what I mean I mean just for the record the nigger that made

that statement up faking to your maker use an all-time bust-ass nigger I don't know whatever that was 54 or 45 or 76 but you're another

ass nigger faking to your big but it's a lot of nickers that cap they wait to the top so and ain't nothing wrong with that because guess what dis-entertainment

them niggas was entertaining right I don't go for what a nigga say man get yours you feel what I'm saying yes sure because the reason why I stress that because when you're from these inner cities Detroit Philadelphia Chicago Chicago

Charlotte Milwaukee New York Atlanta a lot of these niggas believe oh them niggas ain't never shot nobody that shit ain't like That's how these niggas believe. But that's how niggins to get themselves tricked out the streets. They don't know what a nigga did.

Right. Move up to the mic. You'd be the thing like, man, this nigga pussy ain't shot nobody. Playing games. Walk up on and get your dumb ass blows. Or just missed on the whole opportunity. Like, he might be a pussy, but he might be the hottest rapper. Like, you might miss an opportunity to get on a smash hit or some shit.

Thinking like that, you got to think bigger. Like this shit, we didn't get in this shit. We could have stayed in the street if we wanted to just. everybody street niggas i didn't i know we don't move like that bro we don't move like that i'm saying fuck all that get in this shit do business take care of your ministry you get in this shit with that street mentality you're gonna end up in the street you see these rappers getting everybody going back to jail everybody going to jail you gotta tighten up but one thing i can say is man i just want to give you all your flowers because every artist that we interview from alanna

and we say you know tell us your top five al Atlanta artists all time y'all always first and that's coming from the youngins you feel what I'm saying that's coming from the owners of tomorrow you know what I'm saying and for them to recognize that no

they was the ones who opened the door for us you feel what I'm saying y'all was y'all led that wave of some shit that y'all didn't even know was going to be taking control of the music industry for 20 plus fucking years bro yeah it's a blessing man it's definitely a blessing because all way from the the 70s the 80s the 90s new york had that shit oh yeah oh yeah and then it come these little motherfuckers from

out of Atlanta yeah but so man and changed the whole direction of that shit all the players and you know shout out to jermaine depre it was a it was a few motherfuckers that was coming out you know maybe he's LA re you had them you know thank thank you Guff, L.A. Reed comes on them, man. Yes. L.A. Reed. Shout out to L.A.R. Shout out to L.A. Reed. You know, they gave giggas jobs,

man. And that's what's most important. One thing I noticed about Atlanta, too. You know, artists could be beef, and they could be going through it, and then they pop up on the record together. You know what's crazy, though? LaFace records don't be getting mentioned when they be talking about these black labels.

I never hear nobody talking about LaFace. Like, I don't even think, I think it got so big that people didn't even understand who LaFace records was. I think it might be when the L.A. sold that bit for about $100 million. Yeah. Cashed out. Yeah. They might have forgot.

That motherfucker name, you know what I'm saying? He forgot. No dead motherfucker. What you say? He forgot. He forgot. Do you bring that shit to be the worst? Nobody mentioned in the face when they talk about black hair.

Oh, yeah. I didn't know what I used to own that shit. Yeah. Before they socked it to my pocket. They had some monsters on that motherfucker. You know what I mean? Yeah. A hundred million, Mickey.

get a budget. Yeah, TLC, Tony Brackson, Usher, us, Tony Rich. Uh, shit, that's a new child. People forget about Tony Rich Project. Nobody knows it but me. But he was my diamond. With that shit. He went diamond. He went diamond with that song. He went diamond with that

album, yeah. He went dimes. God damn. Why you didn't see him? Go on. Come. Cammer. I forgot that money. You ain't never seen Tony Rich. Because Tony's rich. Dang. Tony said, why the fuck when I double back? He's only down from here. Yeah.

Fuck. What's going to? Tony Rich. Tony, that's name. You got to put rich in your name. You might get rich. Man, shit. God damn.

Right. With diamond. Shit. First record, bro. Went diamond. Crazy. Yeah, he's only down from there. I'm just, that's this.

Reality acts 50 cent. Bro, that's not no shit. That's not like no body. Once you hit a certain level of success. It's like how many people go diamond and then go diamond again? Ex Nellie. She asked me. Yeah, see.

We went dime. We're diamond in a half. Cruel control right now. Did you go diamond again? Shit, I got diamonds. That's an open. Hey, hey, so do 50, said it. So to Nellie.

50 out here going diamond on the fucking TV. Exactly now. Got to go to something else. So at the end of the day, it's not no slight to 50 or Nellie or none of that. It's just that when you reach a certain level of fucking. success is hard to get there again. Like, you may get two times platinum, three times, four times, ten times. Yeah, that's what we got to reinvent yourself, man.

And then we grew up in a different era. We grew up in an era where that meant 10 million people went to the store and bought to the fucking store and purchased a CD or a fucking tape, man. Right, right. I mean, right now the game is rigged. You made 10 million niggas get up and go to that. Just think about how fucking great that shit is. So you're the live show killer, right?

For shit show, live show killer tour on sale right now, nigga, first date Chicago. Chicago, y'all first. That's the day after Thanksgiving, that's motherfucking on November 26. And, brook, let me get the tour fly, too, just so, yeah. That's November 26. And then the day after that, we're in Milwaukee. You know what I'm saying?

That's November 27th. And the day after that, no, three days after that, we're in Albany. You know what I'm saying? So let's talk about them three days first. Chicago on the 26th day. The Thanksgiving go eat good. You know what I'm saying?

Sleep good. Wake up. Take a shit because we're going to turn up. Okay. It takes it to me. We're going to turn up. You know what I'm saying? It's too or shit.

I went to go take a shit. Make sure you get that food away from my body. Yeah, this nigga, somebody took a shit in my house. It's okay, though. Four and a half of them. Let me just say something. You was four and a half minutes into the man crib, bro. You was supposed to least hold it for a lord.

You said, take a shit. I took my shit. You say, do your thing. Bro, nobody just walked right into nobody crib, bro. Hey, do you know what I'm going to go in? I'm walking to Target and do it. Fuck you mean. This ain't just biggest target, though.

I'm talking about the same size I'm playing. I'm walking these different places. Oh, the whole, yeah, the whole thing. You got a prison wall around this. That's another story. I got flashbacks coming in this bitch. Oh, that shit. I see the cop car.

I got excited. We tell him to the motherfuck back, Woody. We pull it to the motherfucking. It's a motherfuckering. To his crib, Walo started sweating shit, fuck, we're going on. I thought he was going to outside of prison. I ain't know what the fuck was going on.

The wall was around. You got a real wall that's doing like greatest for a prison wall. What the fuck? He got going on the cameras and shit. I thought of, I ain't know what was going. Then I see the security car? I got excited when I seen the cop car because it reminded me and mine. Well, go ahead.

Yeah, both these niggas. Both got cop cars. Take the crib, man. Take the family. But go back to the tour, right? The tour, a live show, killer tour, first date. Chicago, nigga. You know, the day of Thanksgiving, November 26th, this tour,

shit i do this shit like it's performing shit like i i can't even lie bro like i do this shit you know i'm saying you feel like you the best perform in the game right now i do i do like in our era buster rhymes new buster rhymes new niggas couldn't fuck with it when he hit

that stage no when i hit that stage bro it's something different you know what I'm saying energy yeah and that's what I'm about like I'm about like making people happy making people have a good time like that's what I'm about I was just having a conversation with someone close to me last night like that's just what I'm about you know what I'm saying like just making people happen

you see what I'm saying so I think that's why I love performing you know what I mean like I love performing I'd be chilling right before I go out there I'm going to get you straight you could yeah the second I go out is you know who the fuck is that like yeah you know I mean air songs so this tour should I do this shit

especially when I get the opportunity to drop new music like ever since I've been dropping so I told you I dropped my first shit March 5th 2019 baby on baby I went on tour like a month month later you know what I'm saying oh I went on tour like a month money came in fast yeah and every every tour I never did every day it's sold out you what I'm saying I went on to like a month later and just flip shit upside down and

as soon as I went so dumb on the tour I never got off and then I dropped some more shit I dropped the Kirk album and then I went right back on the Kirk tour you know what I'm saying and I went overseas Me, bro. Me, bruce. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Baby, I need your love

over me. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, man, let's see. I'm going to be able to be. Thank you. This is fuck the police coming straight front of underground. A young nigga got it bad because I'm brown. And not the other color so police think they have the authority to kill a minority.

Fuck that shit because I ain't the one for a punk motherfucker with a badge and a gun to be beaten on. And throwing in jail, we can go toe to toe in the middle of a cell. Fucking with me cucks, I'm a teenager with a little bit of gold in the page of searching my car. Looking for the product Thinking every nigga is selling narcotics They'd rather see Me in the band Then me and Lorenzo

Rolling in the Benzo Be the police out of shape And when I finish Bring a yellow tape So you'll understand You got you understand Where I was at I'm like

This fucking cube Oh my God Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

Yeah Yeah Yeah going to need three-put motors I got the batted from Jamelis but I had switched the motor I got these badass bitch round around this bitch

neck all the colds yeah I just told him make a store around yeah I just bought all the Trojans yeah yeah I told her style my music I told her stop telling that thing she's seen

and told her me me at the wrist I got a guest in the back of my marine and I went even trying to I told her she got to run through the team before she can talk to the lid Going into quarantine, I was like, yo, whoever's the real stars and the real entertainers, they're going to shine through this season.

But if you're one of those niggas that they had to put this into and you had to, you got to be on TV, and you got to be in rooms of people, you know, out of that. I pray it's safe for you somewhere. I pray because it was going to be a long period of time I felt it. Right. So I remember just thinking, I got to do something with the live. And I remember there was a DJ

I'm right now I'm kind of so I don't remember the name all the time Dee Nice De Nice I'm so sorry He had another big stage I promise I wasn't trying to play

And I saw what he was doing He was just listening to music And it was giving people so much joy Everybody was Michelle Obama in there Everybody in there So I'm like It's just lit Like I got to do something like that

And so what I thought about, I was like, yo, we should do a sound clash. That's how it started. I was like, we should do a sound clash. Kind of like what verses was. Yeah. But we should do a sound clash that's just like artists playing other genres of music. Like me and Bryson Tiller, it's like,

yo, we're going to go the best white boy songs from the 90s. Me and you right now. You pick your best top 10 in sync backstreet boys, whatever. And just different shit, right? And it started turning into this thing where like other. artist was calling me and i seen the live go from like four to like 17 and i was like like yo what the fuck so all of a sudden i start playing the music yo i'm dj corona free tory lanes i i start putting on the radio voice yeah we we're in the spot yeah it's lit

everything's lit i i start saying it then at one point nigger i just realized start taking shots i'm like everybody take a shot at a dot so i'm moving like it's the actual club one point i'm screaming screaming screaming in a living room and my man's comes out my man's was staying with me at the time that's the adlet man shout out to saber saber snow that he's this dude basically just been in my life just like an older head like just all he's been to my life like you feel me not that old but he's like he's older than me so he's my OG like you feel me so came out the room and he sees me just snapping in front of the computer with my phone up and he's wondering like yo why is this nigga drenched in sweat right now.

Like, what is this, why is this nigga screaming? And he comes and he sees there's like 25,000 niggas on there right now. Like, just watching me just live having a good time. Right. The nigger passes me to Mike.

We had this old mic in our studio room. And that's the, you know, the mic that I used. And he passes me to Mike. Pass me to Mike, bro, and I just knew at that moment, like, yo, I'm taking this and this is out of here. Right.

All of a sudden, girls start calling like, yo, let me dance to the music. Boom. And it just turned into this thing. And then, like, the end of the night, I had, like, 80,000 people watching at the same time. Right. And I'm like, yo, it's just ridiculous.

At the time, I was at 5 million followers in the span of eight weeks. I was at 10. You know what I'm saying? It was touching a lot of people to the point we was getting 300,000, you know. Fucking followers a week. And 300,000, no, viewers, live. You know what I'm saying?

Just watching, like, you know, so it became crazy. God damn, that was a hell of a glow-up doing quarantine. Definitely. You dealt with your followers in fucking, how many weeks, eight weeks? God damn. That was a spike in numbers right there. Nigger did quarantine radio on this motherfucker. performance check but

but you know it's crazy and one thing I will say about quarantine radio what it did was it gave me a whole other fan base that supports me so strongly and you know it showed me that those other 5 million people

that came they didn't unfollow me right they didn't you know those people rolled with me and supported me and kept explaining to me how I gave him joy kept explaining to me how I gave him life during the quarantine during the time. So, you know, it just gave me a whole enough

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Swipe me down. I can't see. You got your team. You got your team. niggas you got your camp but you like a one man fucking army out here and it's like it's like i see i see everybody click up and i'm not saying you don't fuck with niggas i don't know your relationships i just know that from the outside looking in it looked like you just stay to yourself and just murder shit yeah i'm gonna be honest with you that come from prison

that come from like i this car is i'm about to even say this. I've been in and out of prison, like juvenile detention and adult jails for quite some time. So I've always been alone or I've always been alienated, so to say, because I live by a different set of rules, morals, codes, and principles. And I really think it really was a blessing. I solidify myself as an artist, but I also kind of hinder myself in ways because I wasn't willing to network. not that I wasn't willing to network but it was just I don't know

I look at it like I could have I could have been more friendly no but you got to look at it like it's just you know you got to look at it like it's business and that's one thing

that I wasn't looking at it from a business aspect I was playing the game like penitentiary like that's how I played the game I came in the game with a real ghetto, not a ghetto attitude, but a kind of street mentality type attitude. And the people that I was gravitating towards was dudes that was, like, in the streets, you know what I'm saying? And I just think that I kind of hinder myself a little bit with that, with that closed mind of perspective. Speaking from a more mature person, like, I believe that, like, now, if I could have did it differently, I would have.

a politic, the network, but it was a beautiful thing because I solidified myself. Right. So the bricks come and stamp. You know what you're getting when you're holl at me. Right. And then again, I feel like everybody that I made the co-create. Some people you could be a fan of from a distance, but everybody not made the co-create. Like, it's about the energy that you align yourself with.

So I'm big on energy, too. What made you decide to name your brand cookies? Just from the strain. Like, back in the days There was so much Granddaddy Perp and Bubba Kush And then OG Kush started kind of getting played out My partner Jai would always bring him back

So we came through with the cherry cush first Came to with the cherry pie You know, and then we got the cookies And when he brought that through He used to like to roll the swisher Let it sit on the dashboard So it gets nice and dry And then fired it up and see what the shit tastes like

And so he was like man This shit tastes like a Like a I was looking at looking like like a like a thin mint cookie I'm like oh shit that shit that shit do taste like a cookie so we named strange cookies and when we named it this shit just went crazy and so I was like I like I like the name I can't call the Girl Scout cookies so I'm about to get sued for show for show for show so I just called it cookies and I ran with it and when I made the logo it just I knew that like

for some reason deep down there I was like this is the parent company and so it's the main strain right now which got a lot of buzz but I'm gonna call the company cookies and then spin off the menu from there you know i mean i think the apparel really helped build the brand though oh so the merch yeah i don't even call the merch i just called like a street wear company right okay we i started this year from the crib you know by myself with a couple homies sending like boxes from the crib just like taking orders and doing that and boom boom boom you know today cookies this year it's going to do 55 million dollars in revenue just the clothing just clothing just cotton yeah just clothing just clothing just clothing y'all just got a crazy pack from the san franc store they just sent me a good

Crazy bag. Yeah, a crazy bag. They'll send us some shit. But I felt like, like, with the music doing what it's doing, and with the cannabis, like, doing what it was doing, that clothing at the right time, it hit, and it was, like, a billboard for us, and it kind of normalized cookies. And it made people that didn't smoke weed feel like they were part of that shit, and it made kids that were, like, looking up to, like, all their bigger brothers

that fucked with this shit, feel like they're a part of that shit. Like, the clothing really helps solidify the brand a lot. And I did it. I'm going to give you guys this a million dollars with the game. I'm going to share shit with you. I never share it with nobody. Okay. That's why you're here.

I didn't just go put the logo on the shirt. You know what I mean? I started looking around like, how can I make this shit jump? And at the time, shout out to Nicky Diamond. Diamond Supply was like one of the biggest streetwear brand, you know, out there. And he's from my city. And my boy Al Freshco brought me to the manufacturers of all his product. They made his belts, his beanies, his wallets, his hats, his backpacks.

Right. and he did a lot of stuff for my partners now they did a lot of stuff for everybody Tyler decreed everyone so I went to them and I said okay if you guys invest 100,000 behind my clothing line I'll give you guys 20% right best still they ever did ever I'm sure they love me a lot invest 100,000 but what I really want is access to the manufacturing I want to overnight take this this t-shirt and this hoodie and put hell of shit out right like I want to turn my shit into a full-on

brand. So that was the first step. The second step was I went to my partner Brian Wilson. I posed him old school D-Boy away from staple and stance. You know Stan Sox? He was doing Stan Sox. He was doing Stan Sox. He was one of the biggest guys at LRG and I always heard stories about him taking LRG from like a $10 million dollar company to like hundreds of millions of revenue. So I went to him I tried to give him to fuck with me. He reached out about the brand kind of inquiring. And when I got a hold of him, he was like, I can't leave Stance. You know, I said, here. I say, here. $75,000 in a brown bag and I'll give you 15% to come be my sales rep. This sounds like a crazy deal.

Like, why would anyone pay someone to come be a sales rep? Why would I pay someone to do that? I knew that if I had everything looking smooth, a full line of clothing, right? And I got the main sales guy that's been tapped in for years to go sell it. And I do what I do with the wrap and the weed, it's a deadly combo. And sure enough, that shit changed. We were at like $3 million a year in revenue when I brought. them in and bro we turned that shit to like 12 21 32 now we're at 55 so you know I just took

partners that had a lot of access to things and experience and knowledge I wasn't just trying to say I want to sell t-shirts and make it pop well you what you was doing was uh understanding your strengths and your weaknesses yeah I mean and you was identifying them so you was like okay and a smart thing you was doing you was identifying them with motherfuckers that was proven veterans you feel what I'm saying you like that's the see that's the part that motherfuckers can't miss yeah you want and did some shit to a desk to another motherfucker like why would he do that but you was going to get that knowledge to access the relationships experience because he was doing this shit for years he knows

everybody in this fucking space so now when he come to my team I don't know where everybody in this space because he's working for me. Oh, where they're mine? A bull on that run. Weird demine. I just say,

Demandum, my daddy. My daddy. My daddy. Oh, my daddy. You really don't know how to dance. I used to know how to dance.

I was doing that. I could dance not. No, you wasn't. That is not how you do it. Play it hating on me. You can just do it. I was doing it. You got white people rhythm.

No, I don't. Yes, you do. I was DM. I was dancing machine. Do it right now. Oh, man, daddy You gotta pop it It's not just you ain't just doing it like this

No So we got one nigga popping And another nigga twerking I didn't say I used to throw that dick It's popping twerk No I said I used to throw that day Oh no oh That was the song

Throw that day All I'm saying is It's pop and twerk And I ain't going back and forth With you niggas That's all that's it Well we used to do it That was the thing to do

Back the day It was the shit I mean I like dancing and part Me too. I mean, you could do whatever you want to do. As long as you're having a good time doing it, who cares, you know what I'm saying? Be yourself.

Be in your, speaking your own truth. Ain't that's what they say nothing? Yeah. Speaking your own truth. And that's what I fuck a while over is. You do some corny-ass nut shit. But it's him. It is.

You know what I'm saying? I'll be doing me. Some niggas are you seeing, corny niggas, you know what I mean? Was you always like that? Yes. Always did you. I grew into this corny nigger. No, you got.

to be corny, that you're always corny. I always was me. Fuck you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, did you grow with it. I just did crime, that's all. I think you should get a damn do comedy for real.

I think you do stand up. I don't think I'm, I don't like to just, you don't, I don't just, you don't just jump up there because you got to put the work in, but I think you got it.

I've been around some legendary comedians, you, David Chappelle. I didn't been around. Who else I was around? I know some big comedians. Mm-hmm. Donnell Rollins asked you, Larry.

I know some people, man. You know, I don't watch them get busy right there on stage, like, and just be like, wow, why did he say that? And then I asked them a question. How did you build that bit up? What was the, you know, it was, you know, but I watched a lot of comedy central when I was in jail. You could watch all day, but you got to get on that stage. Really?

Yeah, just get on the stage. Well, go someplace where people don't know you so you can feel more comfortable. You feel what I'm saying? Just go up there. I don't tell too many people they should do stand-up neither. Now, you or Mike is cool. Mike Ho. M.J.

Oh, indeed, indeed. What's the conversation? Like, have you ever went to him, went to Mike Jordan and said, man, what type of advice did you went to him for, and what did he provide for you? So I went to Mike, I went to Mike early in my career. And I was just, you know, I was a nigga for B-more man who just knew how to go get it. Like, I ain't really had, I was just green, but I knew how to go get it. And for him to sign me at 19 years old to represent his brother, I was the first,

signature athlete under the Jordan brand. But you was that nigger coming out of Syracuse. So when I signed with him, I knew he had my back for him to take that chance with me. I knew he had my back. I was having a hard time with, like, certain players in the game, certain situations in the game, knowing how to figure out how to beat certain defenses. And I went to MJ for that. I wanted to spend two weeks, a week and a half with MJ in Chicago.

We trained every morning, six in the morning, six in the morning. six during the morning, but it was more the conversations that we, that we had. The way he broke film down to me. I ain't know how to watch film. He broke it down to me, watch it like this, do this, do that. Why would you do it? Question to me. Then he was like, taught me really how to break down the art of scoring the basketball.

And I'm like, man, I already, I already know how to put the ball in all. That's what I do. But he was like, nah, it's a, I'm going to give you the mental part of it. Listen, he said, how much you want to average. He said, you average about 28 right now. I said, yeah, he said, here's an easy way to go get it, seven points a quarter, right? He said, break down seven points in a quarter. That's two layups, maybe a three, a layup, two freethos, a three.

You might get hot one quarter. You might have 11, 12, 13, one quarter. Now in the second quarter you can pace as long as you get your 14 in two quarters. Right. So I'm like, dang, you get broke. That's crazy. Right. And I'm thinking about that in the games.

That next season, I average almost 30. But I'm thinking about what he's telling me Like I ain't got to go get it As much as I really want to go get it Right As fast as I want to go go right You just slow the game down Right

And that was probably the best advice That he's ever gave me You ever had any Uh Competition talk with Mike was like You can't have competition talk with Mike was like You can't have comedy You know how to barbecue chicken

You can't You can't You can't You can't It's impossible Did you ever see it like Mike If he was But he know

He didn't have to argue Like, he knows it's certain of us, you know, that we go back at him. Like, we'd talk out shit to him. Right. But then he gets to start talking about winning and, you know what I'm saying? Rings and shit. That's like, that's his defense mechanism. Right.

Just throw your ring. Come on, Mike. Right. But what's the example of something you didn't say to Mike? Like, yeah, I'd have cooked your ass back. You was too small. Like, you told me that. Yeah, we all, we talked about, I was, he'd have made me run around the game.

I was out of shape. Shit like that. You're out of shape, man. You don't get tired chasing me. He used to say shit like that. He was just, I, I told him. tell him, man, you're too small. You was, you know, you was light.

Right. You light the ass, man. You, you lighten the ass, bro. And just think, when I got the boss, then, now I got P, I got Ray and everybody on our team talking trash. Everybody. Everybody's talking, but we backing it up. Ray was talking trash?

Man, Ray would talk trash, too? Oh, shit. Ray, I'll tell you, about yourself. He didn't think Jesus Shettles were. Oh, no. Listen, man, everybody in the league is somebody, man, and they got that big factor. And, you know, everybody niggas at the end of day, you know, respectfully. You know what I'm saying?

You come with a certain kind of cloth and you play with it. Who was the second greatest shit talk of all time? Who was that person give you a run for the money? Man, Gary paid. Gary paid. Listen, let me listen, man. Let me tell you about GP. Y'all talking to this shit like I'm the greatest.

Man, Michael Jordan is the greatest shit talker ever. Would Mike ever say some shit to you? Man. What did he say to you? I said something. I wouldn't, I went in this shit. I actually made the mistake and said something because J. Rada was having a great game against Mike Jordan.

And I wasn't talking shit to him. Mine was just gassing JR, and then Mike was, like, you know, sitting there, like, he's right there, but I didn't get no far. Like, man, you kill him this thing, keep on that, dude. I mean, shit, man, you know what I mean? Yeah, I was like, all right, cool, yeah, all right, yeah, you got it, yeah. Good, look, and you too. You keep on, because we were having some good games.

And then, you know, the ref one ready with the ball, and I was just like, yo, keep going, yo, fuck that. You know, we ain't got nothing. You know, because I was kind of, you know what I? And now, he was like, all right, all right. I was like, keep on that thing. That thing ain't shit, man. Yeah.

That nigg got on the back leg on it. Like, oh, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm standing right here? I'm getting a fun of a thing. I'm a third nigga. I'm talking that like that. He's talking street shit to me. Mike, what Mike said?

Lajuan. Like, these old school niggas have, they're talking shit, man. Mike was like, all right. Man, that man had 40 and three quarters, man. Flip, sub this out. We got out the game. Damn, y'all out the game.

Damn, y' y'all out. Damn, you ain't. Like, no, I ain't, you got it? Yeah. I'm done. Mike tap. I'm done. I'm done.

Mike's had me back. Elijah Juan, another motherfucker that's talk shit to you. Yeah, Elijah won't do some shit like take his mouthpiece out and say, I'm hitting him with a lot of movement? He can't do anything. How do I even respond to that? You're hitting him with lateral movement. Like, yeah, King Elijah, I might hit you with some, yeah.

Oh, you hit him with a lateral movement? I was like, I don't even know how to respond to that. Like, I don't even have nothing for that. What do you say? What do you say when nigga hits say he's hitting you with lateral movement? I ain't never heard that. Right, so, yeah, Charles Martin will fight you all. Yeah, man, what?

Hey, y'all, man, you want a garden cake? Come guard it, yeah, you see him in Kobe and a y'all was talking? Yeah, nigga, you think it's sweet, come guarded there, nigga, yeah. So that's why I come from, man, everybody talking shit out here. Tim Duncan doesn't say nothing. No, Timmy is smiled at you. Timmy be killing you with smiles. Wait, who to all late cussing you did it, Tim.

He never got out his element one time. That nigga might laugh at you, man. You might be cussing them out of a hundred mile. He might sit down, lavage you, like, y'-ah, and that's supposed to piss you off even more. Then on top of it, he tells him, he, ya, yeah, yeah, backboard, yeah, hook shot, yeah, fade away, ya, ski, I'm the oven, ya, yeah, you like, so, you know, this ain't working.

I mean, let me just stick the basketball with this one, but the niggas who, the nigs who are weak-minded and won't all the world places. Yeah, I got some for y'all, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So as you get on the court, the fuck you're going to do today. He looked at that dick of eyes. Oh, no, he ain't.

That shit ain't working on. Nah, I'm gonna leave. I'm a lead. No, but the trash song was like a strategy, man, you know, and some, some it worked and some it didn't. But, yeah, it was, you know, everybody had something to say about it. And then at the time right here, everybody can do something about it. Nobody, you know, ain't nobody on that.

Just talk that shit, but ain't nobody on that. Oh, y'all got rich and shit got money. Oh, fuck you up. Me and a locker room. You bitch ass, nigger. You don't want that. Everybody got crews, too. Everybody got crews.

Everybody got crews. Everybody, you understand. But it's different, bro, it's different when you, when you copped down and then you really go to a 15,000-foot square houses, like, yeah, I'm calm down. I ain't worried about him, no. It's different when you really scared out there. And he's talking shit to you like, oh, shit. Like, you really scared. Is he really going to do something to me?

Because all them players, they're not built like that, and they don't come from that, so they don't know. And you might run up, he might snap on somebody that's really scared. The MVP speech, I know you was asked, you talked about this a lot, right? but I do want to touch you on like that was one of the most heartfelt sincere you know speeches that I ever heard in my life you know what I'm saying and sitting there looking at you get a speech you can tell that you went through some shit growing up you feel what I'm saying that you've been through a different type of struggle and you can just see it in your face and a sincere of how much work had to get put in to get to this point. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, when you won that award,

what was going through your mind? Like, yeah, I was just replaying all the moments, though. Like, I committed to that shit at, like, 8. You know, like, I told everybody that, my parents and everybody that was taking care of me that I wanted to play basketball every day. So they really pushed me to do that shit. Like, they really, they really,

forced me to, like, they told me what hard work was and what I needed to do in order for me to be a good basketball player. Like, I had a structure at an early age, and, like, I knew what it meant to, like, actually put in some work, you know what I'm saying? So, at 9, 10, 11, I started gaining concerts, you know what I'm saying? So I'm, like, working out by myself, I'm, like, thinking to myself, like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, why am I doing this shit?

You know what I'm saying? But I'm like, I like, I like to play, and I want to make it somewhere. I just start visualizing shit at an early age. Right. And shit started to come together for me. And by the time I was like 12, 13, 14, I'm just like, all right, shit, this is what I'm going to do for show. Right. When did you, that was around the age when you really start knowing, I'm nice.

Yeah, I knew when I first stepped on the court and my first game plan, it was like so easy to me. I was like, oh, shit, yeah. I like doing this. I want to do it every day. And then I started working out and getting better. and then I started like seeing my friends go do other shit and I was the only one working out

and I was just like it was cool feeling different and doing other different shit you know what I'm saying so I was like I just like this space you know what I built on that and I seen y'all was talking to Dame and he was saying he played the same way

he played when he was a kid play that way now that's exactly how I was playing the way I play now is exactly how I played when I was eight nine years old I just expanded and got sharper at some of the shit St. Louis growing up

a couple niggas baked you Scott sucks who cooked your ass I'm talking about Scott sucks I'm talking about you was the whole menu of the barbecue

he cooked you so bad you know that I knew I knew I bring up Scotty boy he said he's shaking now and Scott cooked this ass so bad they said

he came back to the gym He didn't even knew Scott was in there. He come in, he got flip-flops on. They say he's seeing Scott, he haul ass back to the car to get his gear. He had to get some get back. Scott put some smut on your name. Yeah, Scott wasn't playing. So was that always how you was designed?

Like if somebody got out on you, you just had to get some get back. Yeah, I was a... Shout out to Scott Suggs to, SS, you know, SS Impala. Did him dirty. Game 45. Shout out to Scott. I was a, we worked out with the same train of Drew. And now that I noticed I was a freshman, this was like my first week working out with Drew.

I thought I was nice. I thought I was the best freshman in St. Louis, the best eighth grader. And Drew had me work out with Scott. We played one-on-one. Like, I'll, because he basically wanted to show me I wasn't as good as I thought I was. Long as hour of year life, huh? He kicked my ass. I heard.

Man. We played six, seven games of one-on-one. I couldn't beat him. I really couldn't score. And I felt like in Drew, and that's when Drew finally got my attention. He was like, all right, now we got a lot to work on. Fast forward.

Scott was in college, or he was an overseas player. He was working out pre-gad. Two years later, I was a junior. Now I'm like the number of playing the country. So I'm with my older cousin, and we're going to the gym. They're playing pickup.

Like you said, I got flip-flops. I got my khakis on from school. I got a part. hello on. I'm just going in and chill. I've seen Scott. I ain't seen Scott in two years. Hold on.

I'll be right back. So in them two years, Scott, Scott, you just had to carry Scott name around. Like, Scott, Scott, Scott was a part of, Scott was a part. You was one of Scott's victims at the time. So you was like, I got to come up off this victim list. I was, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, I'm real, you know, first class guy. So he ain't, you know, first class guy. So he ain't, you know, he kicked my ass.

so he was cool he just knew it when you all seen each other it was a mutual good cooked you nigga he knew he ain't tell a lot of people though but when I was 17 years later and I seen him in the gym I ran to my trunk grab some sneaks I used to wear shorts under my khakis at school just in case I went in there and they know what happened you got some get back Scotty yeah okay so so Scottie had a funeral no no no no no no hold on Scotty so wait wait wait Scotty one and one like let's not put Too much smud on Scotty.

And Scottie got out on him. He got out on Scotty. Now, they got to see somewhere along the line, and they got to, you know, uneven this shit. You feel what I'm saying? I can put that working. Like, we ain't going to act like Scotty is down. You know what's so good about him?

We glad he ran to his trunk in a different way. Yeah, I ran to the trunk. Right. Hit the trip pop to the truck. Oh, I'm like, oh. It's so great that he ran to his trunk and got the sneaks and now something else. You know, in the hood when somebody ran into the trunk,

the whole gym cloud, he's going to the trunk. Anybody like this. He got a gun. You know how to show. It was like, luckily when he got some nights. Nick's screaming, watch out for Lou J. Watch out of Lul J.

Little J coming out. Lou J going to the truck. So it was good that he went in a different way. It's just like that. Right.