Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 154: FEATURING PUSHA T

Episode Date: February 21, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. Right. Today's price is not today's price. Master recipes under stove lights The number on his jersey is the quote price You order Diet Coke, that's a joke right
Starting point is 00:00:38 Everybody get it off the boat, right? But only I can really have a snow fight Detroit nigger challenge what's your dope like If your bins bigger step it up the ghostlight Missy was I only missed the meaner My tunnel vision's better under stove lights You order Diet Coke, that's a joke right? My workers compensated so they don't strike
Starting point is 00:01:02 Wish me Luxie Green like Don Bishop The ones you trust don't change like them change you tough For as I'm concerned who's the best me in Yazos Watched and dry so give me all of mine and pesos Add it up Your bitches in them pictures but they laser tagging us They mad at us Who wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:01:23 We became everything you couldn't be Everything your mama said you shouldn't be The Porsche's horse is revving like, look. I'm still pitching baby batter up. Imaginary players ain't in coach right. Master recipes under stove lights. The number on his jersey is the quote price. You order Diet Coke.
Starting point is 00:01:47 That's a joke, right? All you niggers get it off the boat, right? But only I can really have a snow fight. Detroit nigger challenge what you dope like. If your bin's bigger, step it up the ghost life The flow's untouched, the drums is tough Drive coloring in when roads get rough Snow's a must, the nose adjust
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Starting point is 00:02:45 You order die coke. That's a joke, right? All you niggas get it off the boat, right? But only I can really have a snow fight. You was talking that. For those that don't know today, we're reporting from cream. Yes, my God. There's a lot of cream involved in cream, right?
Starting point is 00:03:07 Philadelphia, that is, right now. Push your T. Oh, push your T. Let's get this right. Push your T. Yes, sir. Push your T. We're going to get that right.
Starting point is 00:03:17 We're going to establish that. Laving and living color. VA all day. NPA right now. It's a collaboration from day one. It's always been that way. But right now we got push your T. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And we at cream and it's a whole lot of cream going on. Oh, he's the owner too. Hey, let's talk about it. But push your tea. Let's talk about it. He's the owner. Let's talk about it. He's the owner.
Starting point is 00:03:39 They got that drip in here too. That's another story. That's old enough story. But it's a lot of cream going on. And the day we would push your tea. Million dollars worth of game. But right now, you're now tuned into me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, million million dollars worth a game.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Now, Um, where do we begin? Huh? Where do we begin? I'm gonna let you start. Um, boss, lyricist, um, destroyer, uh, manufacturer, uh, manufacturer, a dope shit, uh, the list goes on, et cetera. How about that, et cetera? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:04:19 We got to, we got to establish that, you know, father, husband. Um. Very much so. thorough human being solid etc push man listen man
Starting point is 00:04:35 the game always miss you when you going to doing the stuff that you do being a great fire of a family man doing your thing opening up businesses all this other shit that's going on now you back yeah you're back and you're not playing
Starting point is 00:04:54 the numbers on the judges That's the quote prize You're the diet Coke That's a joke, right? It's scary right now Right now and it's scary Y'all It's real fucking scary
Starting point is 00:05:03 Is Ray get real spooky out here It's not even Halloween This shit Ray gets spooky You know That shit was months ago So talk to us man Well you know Album
Starting point is 00:05:16 A lot of stuff New Speck Elite All types of shit man Yeah let's talk about it all man I mean You know This is my first time I'm million dollars with a game
Starting point is 00:05:23 you know first and foremost you understand it's like a full circle moment just us us just being in Philly in Kreme at you establish yeah Gilly and Wallo lava in here too lava in here too for show you know for a lot of people don't understand like what Philly was to like my rap career and um I'm I'm let's go ahead and just start off like this um You know, Philly is the place that broke, you know, the clips as a rap group. You know, the song, Grinding is a record that broke here first, even before my own hometown. So, like, I spent a lot of time up here.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Even before grinding, I knew Gilly. I knew the figures. And I must say this, that as far as my whole rap career goes, it was Philly. that showed me to, like, even not being on to compete like I'm on. Right. Like, you know, it was Philly as rap artists. It was major figures as rap artists. It was Philly's Most Wanted as rap artists that made me, like, look at how they were competing with people who were already on.
Starting point is 00:06:46 You know what I'm saying? Where, you know, at the time, you know, we all mixtape artists or whatever the case may be. And y'all more so than me because, you know, being from Virginia, we didn't really have mixtapes our own. Y'all, you know, whether it was Kaankev joints or whatever the case may be, y'all had that foundation and y'all set it up. And at the end of the day, I looked at y'all and was like, wait a minute, they're not competing with their homeboys, you know, up the street. They really trying to compete with whoever was supposed to be that shit. Yeah, New York.
Starting point is 00:07:22 New York, for sure. Whoever was. And I was like, oh, wait a minute. So, like, seeing that, that changed my whole mentality. And I, like, really got to thank the figures for that for sure. Believe it. That's love. For sure.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Like, for sure. Most wanted figures. Like, you know, that whole time was, like, you know, very, um, it groomed. It groomed me competitively right before I got into the game. Right. You know what I'm saying? Just watching y'all Like in the way that y'all like was attacking the shit
Starting point is 00:07:55 Right It was like charismatic Like you can't just write raps No you got to be charismatic Yeah Like all that type of shit I was like I was like oh okay
Starting point is 00:08:04 This is how you show Like the showmanship And all of that type of shit It was um It was something to see It was something to see So just being back here Being in cream
Starting point is 00:08:15 Being next to y'all It's like Man people don't even understand Like you know This is actually the 20 year anniversary of Lord Willing, which had the album grinding on it. You know what's so crazy is, me and Push been cool for so long. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Before Lord Willing. I signed in 99, and Drape said, I want to send you down to VA to work with some producers named the Neptunes. All right, cool. I get down there. You and your brother did. Mm-hmm. We did a song with Pharrell on the hook.
Starting point is 00:08:56 You could hear this beat from around the corner. You could hear this beat from around the corner. You could hear this beat. So we was introduced all the way back then. And the one thing I could say, man, is he always been the same nigga. Always been the same nigga that I met back then. It's all the way now. Yeah, it's going to be growth.
Starting point is 00:09:18 There's going to be. But as far as being solid. Same individual Always been that, man And I commend you for that Because a lot of motherfuckers Don't be the same When they hit that roller coaster ride
Starting point is 00:09:31 And they go up Man They change on you, boy You're gonna Yeah You'd be like, damn That used to be my man Like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:09:42 Come on So, you know, I commend you, man You always was the same nigga You always rocked out With one of my best homies, Lava To this day To this day, you know
Starting point is 00:09:51 you know what I'm saying so I commend you man you know what I mean you and your brother for real chat you know what I mean since I first met you all you always showed me love has always been a solid thing so I just commend you for just being the same nigga man because so many niggas change you yeah so just being a solid need all the time appreciate it let's get into this man let's do it this episode of me and I was worth a game is brought to you by new amshadam vodka now um life ain't going your way shot a new Amsterdam vodka caught your bits
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Starting point is 00:10:51 We got to go somewhere. You got to, you got to know the Lingo, you know, but go ahead. The fuck is he talking about. Yeah, you know what the fuck is going to talk about. But make sure when you're out about it, your local liquor store, you get some new MCDANVACA. It's great for pre-gaming. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:11:08 Basketball right now, about to be All-Star weekend. We're all-star, yeah, it is All-Star weekend. So, you know, make sure you get you some new MTV and VACA, official VACA, Bars through sports and the official sponsor of a million dollars worth a game. Now push. Yes, sir. You've been in a game for a while, so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I always, I always be wondering, how do people, how do you see the game right now, hip-hop game? Man, I love the hip-hop game. I love exactly what it's become. You know, I think that we're watching, like, hip-hop. It's already the biggest genre. It's the youngest genre and it's the biggest genre. But I feel like we're watching it expand and all these different sub-generalms. and just watching our people be able to get money
Starting point is 00:11:54 in so many different ways. I think it's a good thing. It's funny, I was with my brother in the studio the other day and somebody asked him how he looked at hip-hop. And he was like, man, I love it for what it is. He said, but I'm going to tell you, the only thing I don't like is that he said, I feel like the streets is following these artists
Starting point is 00:12:17 that I'm being introduced to these days into the game. and it's like and it's sort of slowing them up and he was saying how he um he was like man you know I um as soon as I got introduced to pop smoke and I was like man I was I was digging dude he passes away right he was like King Vaugh I love King Vaugh my brother was saying this and he was just like you know I'm just you know listening to him talk or whatever
Starting point is 00:12:40 but he was like he didn't he don't like the fact that um the streets sort of like follow it's like following the youngans into it and they're not like like being able to shake it and, you know, ultimately ending in their demise. Yeah, I think it's like, like even he say that, it's like, I realize as you grow old, do you realize everything is based off infrastructure? Even when we go back as kids and we didn't, we, certain ways we moved and the shit we've done, we didn't have the right proper infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Now, as you grow older, and you look at your team, you look at the people that you got into place to protect you from certain things that's environmental, things that, you know, can be attached to you based off your upbringing. And you know how it is when you get the, you know, You know, when you're young, when you first get your money, it's like, I got to go back. I got to be seen. I can't let nobody think I'm a pussy. I got to go back and flex.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So it's like, it's this thing of I got to be there and I got to be in this shit or I'm not. Or now it's like, I'm not real. I always thought that music was about imagination and entertainment and the imagination of. And I think a lot of times nobody educate the young cast like, yo, bro, this is entertainment. You could be Denzel. You're Denzel. You're Will Smith. It's cool.
Starting point is 00:13:48 A lot of people, some are our greatest. artists in the history of time they was they understand the artist storytelling and understanding i've got to entertain you by any means necessary i ain't got to go out there and catch a case don't shoot nobody you know that's that that's my whole perspective on on um just on how i'm how i'm like transitioning and maturing in the game i feel like i'm trying to be scorsesey of this shit yeah like i want to really paint those pictures and really make those movies and and really you know say the aspirational shit that Make, you know, artists be like, damn, he really busts him, but, or like, you know, it just took, it took creativity and took thought to do. Put it together.
Starting point is 00:14:28 You know, being in the game for so long, man, like, you tend to find out being the realest nigger in the room is not always the best thing to be in this shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you'll find yourself spinning your wheels being like that. And it's like, me, me personally, I like sort of find, I find, like, peace and just. being like, you know what? Like, I'm going to just look at music and everything just on a whole creative plane right now. Like, that's just what I'm
Starting point is 00:14:58 into. That's what I'm, like, striving for now. I think about big, big say, um, I want to push 700s. They ain't made them yet. You know, it's just like, come on. Yeah, just, you know, just imagining shit and just like, you know, I go back to like some of those verses and
Starting point is 00:15:14 those albums and just listen to, you know, some of the greats and and they weren't, they weren't, so caught up in trying to prove who they was, they was just trying to say the best and illish shit in the world. Never was simple. You know what I'm saying? I've been to this for a while. I think
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Starting point is 00:17:10 Like, that's not the case. What that was was basically Kanye forfeiting all of his profits. from my whole catalog back catalog to now to me that was and how did that feel that moment in this game the music the music game
Starting point is 00:17:30 how did like knowing that goes it's amazing that's historical what you mean I can tell you how I feel yeah no no wait till I get my money right
Starting point is 00:17:41 whoa shit hell yeah I've seen people try to make something like negative out of it but like nah it was all positive It was a really, really good thing. And, you know, like I said, man,
Starting point is 00:17:53 a lot of people say they're your brother, but, like, you know, for him to show you, show me that we are brothers to do something like that. That was major. I appreciate him for that. And he gave you all your shit back? Everything. That's what I'm, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:18:11 What? What? What the fuck you're supposed to do? You know what? Like, you know what? I'm, you know, I'm good. You know what I mean? Here you go, brother.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Make sure you good now. You know what I mean? Like, there's still motherfuckers out here, still. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They can sit that whole waiting for that call. Come on, back game of shit.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I'm going to make that happen for you one day because you know baby gave me your master. He gave me your joints. You know that's my man. He gave me them joints. Hey, in a while, signed this shit. I ain't put it out on Instagram yet. But I got your joints. I'm just waiting for you to act right with you.
Starting point is 00:18:43 The bitches ain't worth that itself. I mean, if you get a good month right without talking shit to me, I got you. I'm a bless you. I'm going to be your half your man. I don't even want the bitches. I mean. Fuck you, I mean.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Now, now, when it comes to, when it comes to, you know, you, you come in and you become a, you know, you go from push your tea, the grinder, the MC, to an entrepreneur. Yeah. You get into fashion. Yeah. You're doing big time deals. You're deeded deals. How do you transition to, first of all, you just got to be fly.
Starting point is 00:19:15 You got to establish that. But how do you transition from that to making these. monster business deals on the fashion side how do you how do you because i'm always seeing you at all the shows you're always in paris you're always on the runways you're there they want you there yeah you know you know i sort of got um i sort of got grandfathered into the whole street wear fashion thing years ago with um bathing ape and nigo and that turned into bbc even even you know the whole you know us being in cream right now like this really started from like being able to
Starting point is 00:19:50 you know having that inside track on street wear Japanese streetwear at the time and then actually Farrell had a store in Virginia and what happened was
Starting point is 00:20:04 they had a store or whatever shit didn't work out and Brock my man he was like he was out there really hustling and he really has an eye for like fashion as well and he would like buy all the you know whatever was hot whatever and be selling it you know to everybody and you know
Starting point is 00:20:24 fashion can be sort of snobby in regard to like they don't they don't just give out certain accounts to certain people i was in a position where i could be like yo um you know i think yo bbc listen if y'all having some headaches with who y'all dealing with i'm telling you my man is the one who got like you know what i'm saying he got it moving and shaking you know he should have the account that turned into like you know us finding the babe account you know and getting it for the store and so on and so forth going to Vegas and and sitting in on some of those meetings and it's and it's kind of a frustrating thing because you know your money be right so on and so forth but then you know a particular brand will be like now we ain't ready to like open your store yet
Starting point is 00:21:09 you know not we be cool yeah be cool wait a minute you know what I'm saying so um We took a number of those trips, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, you kick down a couple doors. My profile was rising a little bit, so I think that helped. And, you know, this is, shit, this is the third store. 2006 was the first store, nine, in June, the second store will be nine years old. This one is three years old. It's major.
Starting point is 00:21:37 So I feel like, you know, and that's another thing, too. I don't, like, I never looked at myself as, like, fashionable. like I'm not I'm not fashion like I look at myself as like a translator like I'm not when I think of fashion I think dudes like Pharrell or A sap Rocky or Kanye West guys who are like going jump out there and take these risks and fashion is about risk yeah they take those they take those fashion risks that are like that are respected by you know the people in them high fashion places and so on and so forth I look at myself as a translator it's like by the time Ferrell will put on something my home boys be hitting me up like yo man what's your man doing bro like come on bro
Starting point is 00:22:19 you know what I'm saying like and and I look at it from that point there's a difference between where he starts it and then by the time it gets to me and then how I translate it down to them you know what I'm saying I feel like I by the time I put the shit on the streets is like oh that's how that's how I can do it yeah you know what I'm saying okay you're translate okay I feel like I'm more of a translator than a than a fashion guy because that's a real art that they do. Absolutely. How was your relationship with Virgil?
Starting point is 00:22:49 Man. Well, first of all, Virgil, Virgil's clothing line was called what? Off white. Off white. Okay. And the first one was what? The one before that.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I don't know the one before that. Pyrex. Pyrex. Oh, yeah, I remember. We think. Okay. Pyrex off white. What do you think this just comes from?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah. We pull out of the sky. But break it down. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so let me Virgil go back. Yeah. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Well, you know. no Virgil was my man Virgil, we were planning to do some really big things but before all of that he's my man big super big clips fan
Starting point is 00:23:28 Hell Hathno Fury one of his favorite albums right before he passed one of his last request was to put two songs from Hell Have No Fury in the last in the fashion show before it was not the last one that just happened
Starting point is 00:23:44 the one before then And, man, you know, Virgil was, he was an amazing guy, man. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Always, always humble, always positive. And, man, always just a fan, a fan of the rap. And, I mean, off white and Pyrex, that's 1,000% push your tea, you know what I'm saying, energy all day long. That's where he got it from. So what's up, man.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Rest in peace. That's in peace. Now, who is you listening to right now? Who am I listening to right now? E-S-T-G. I knew it. I'm listening to Babyface Ray. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:29 42 Doug. Troy? Little baby, of course. Okay. Who else? Who else am I listening to? Summer Walker. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:42 What else? What else? out there. Oh, my man, fat money from out of Chicago. Okay. That's like one of my favorite favorite, um, favorite mixtapes right now. Fat money. Yeah, Cinco the money.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Cinco the money. Cinco the money. Oh, you put me on. I'm going to go check out fat money. I'm going to check out fat money. Absolutely. Um, what else am I listening to right now? Um, um, I don't know. I think, I think that's a, I think that's about it. I think that's about it. That's like just that's on heavy rotation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I like a lot, you know, like a lot of the, a lot of the guys I mentioned, you know, Moneybag as well.
Starting point is 00:25:20 He's a, he's a favorite, he's been in favor of mine since, uh, uh, the first tape he did with Gotti. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. But, um, it's good to see them. You done. No, go ahead. Can I get to some shit now? And I got to say something. One of my favorites fucking artists is out just, the slickest, one of the slickest talkers out here is from Virginia.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Young Money Yon. Hey, man. I always, I call him and I cut him out. You want some boys. He tells me. He tells me. He tells me. He tells me all the bullshit.
Starting point is 00:25:46 You want some, man. You know, well, money ain't to think, man. I don't really got to do it because of money. So they ain't about nothing. You know what I'm going to just, you know, I may just throw some money in the water, man. I don't care. That's what he does. I'm really just go to the, you know, the White House and just throw money over the gate.
Starting point is 00:25:58 It's nothing. So I'm like, damn, hey, come on, man. You start with the people, man. That's him, though. Yeah. This episode of me and I was worth a game is brought to you by VH1. Now it's going down February 21st. February 21 Monday.
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Starting point is 00:27:17 Yeah Was it people that was like No Don't do it Nah Lead that alone push Like just Mm-mm
Starting point is 00:27:26 Well no It wasn't it wasn't Never really that Because I never told them That what was happening Oh so you just Yeah So when you dropped the bomb
Starting point is 00:27:35 It was like That's when they heard the bomb Yeah for sure I don't be like Man You know, because I feel like when it's, when it's war time, I feel like, you got to be, people got to be all in. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:50 Like I'm not, I ain't never going to speak to nobody who's not all in. See, that's, when it's wartime. Right. Okay. I'm only talking to those who are. It's all in. All in. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:00 So, no, I didn't talk to anybody about it. Be honest with you. Nobody. When it was going down. Yes, sir. And you was like, I know I got this card in my pocket that when I play this card to the world, this is going to be some vicious shit. When you dropped it, did you think it was going to get the response that it got?
Starting point is 00:28:32 Or was it kind of bigger than what you thought it was? Or was it like, I knew it was going to do that. man you know to be honest with you um i didn't i didn't know how it was going to react i mean i knew all it was was i knew i was speaking my truth right and i knew i was speaking the truth right so i was like man and i feel like the truth hurts regardless i don't care what i don't care what is going on yeah i feel like the truth definitely hurts it does so um i didn't really um i didn't look at it, I didn't look at it any way, like, to me, on some, like, popularity level or, like, because when you're dealing with him, you're dealing on, like, a pop level, you're dealing on,
Starting point is 00:29:16 pop level, you're dealing on TMZ levels. It was like, damn, it was a lot of attention. I was like, oh, shit, and it couldn't happen at a better time. My album out, got the album of the year, like, I know this is it. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, on that, but, like, on an artist level, I didn't, I didn't look at it so crazy because it was, like, it wasn't like I, just beat the locks.
Starting point is 00:29:37 in a rap battle or like I beat hove in a rap battle or some shit like it wasn't that But I'm keeping it all be real Drake was getting niggas out of here
Starting point is 00:29:45 Yeah But you know But to me it's more of a chart It was more of a It's more of a chart thing When I look at You know what I see him It was more of a
Starting point is 00:29:55 A song thing too Right Right Right Just you know Our rap battle was more We're gonna just Ah
Starting point is 00:30:04 Or some ether shit You know what I'm saying And it might have a hook in there, but, nigger, we ain't really, the hook ain't going to be, you know, now you're really going to be singing in the club, you know, it's more some, so I understand. Not for sure. But, you know, I like the rap battle shit. The reason why I like when you and Drake was going at it personally, because I knew nobody was going to get harmed in the shit.
Starting point is 00:30:27 This was two grown-ass men that was lyrically sparring. You feel what I'm saying? We're lyrically sparring. We're going at it. We, like, back in the day with L-L and Coomode. And, you know, now there's so many young niggas that they go back and forth on track and that shit's going to end up in a homicide.
Starting point is 00:30:44 It's going to end up in somebody getting shot. It's going to end up, you know what I mean? Some dumb shit. And honestly, with y'all, it wasn't on that. It was like, no, nigga, I'm better than you lyrically, nigga. Can you fuck with me with the behind this mic lyrically? Yeah, what you're going to put together that's going to come back
Starting point is 00:31:01 at me that's going to fuck with this. And that's really how it's supposed to be in this rap shit. That shit is like sports. No, nigger, I'm better than you. We'll get the basketball, nigga, and prove it. You feel what I'm saying? So that's what I love the most about the, you know what I'm saying? Because we don't have that type of shit no more.
Starting point is 00:31:18 With these young niggas, they dis each other. Right, they dis each other. Then he disish you. Then he shoots you to your shoulder bleeds fall off before you die. And then after you die, then they smoke you. You know, they're rolling you to fuck up in the pack. And so it's just like. Because it's crazy because it's like we live in a time now in Whizdo.
Starting point is 00:31:36 you know hip hop was always about calling some shit out that you ain't like right calling some shit out oh niggie you stole my shit but now it's like if you say if you if you speak on something you're hating we created this narrative that like if you speak on somebody you're something that you don't like oh you hateing because no this is this is what this shit is all about hip hop is about checking the motherfucker if they need to be checking or oh oh that whole shit you stole that who this that was my that was my way I put this shit right I peeped you I caught your ass bang Oh, no, you hate knowing them because they're in a bigger stage than you
Starting point is 00:32:09 because they stage or the audience might be bigger to you. So to see that shit, it was exciting just to see two people go at it, man, because you don't see that no more and knowing that they ain't going to turn it to no motherfucking wakes. And that was anything, you know? Let me ask you a question. Was who the top three artists, the top three most talented artists you worked in the studio with that she was in and you was like, this nigga's talented?
Starting point is 00:32:33 Well, this, she's extremely talented. Look, I like that See this million dollars in the game You see his face He's got to think about this Let's go Top three most talented In my opinion
Starting point is 00:32:46 Are That you work with Yeah that I work with Are Pharrell Williams Kanye West in the dream The dream I ain't never
Starting point is 00:32:57 A dream is A new skateboard was in here Is by far One of the best Writers, composers Singers visionaries when he come to like
Starting point is 00:33:08 just knowing what that song's supposed to be and I mean come on I mean just look the hits he didn't he different what's a dope moment you don't share in the studio with for real dope moment I shared in the studio with P um
Starting point is 00:33:26 man man you know what I was I was around I was around during that whole Neptune run like the early run 2001 all that shit and I'm what shit you was there so you know how fast them hits was being made them just was like five minute beats like 10 minutes this isn't like a whole day's worth of like I probably could name five hits that was made in in the same day you know what I'm saying like it was quick it was like just super quick and that's just how dialed in And then him and Chad were at those times, like, they was, like, really super focused, and they had their hand on the pulse of, like, what was hot. And they were, like, competing against whatever else was hot, but they knew it.
Starting point is 00:34:18 They knew what they were doing. And that just meant, like, yo, every, dog, everything that they was putting out at that time was just heat. And just watching them create that, it was like, dog, it was back to back to back to back. Unbelievable. Crazy. No, it was crazy. You ever did a song with an artist, like they send you over a record, you lay your verse, and then when the song come out, the verse that they had on there wasn't on there,
Starting point is 00:34:47 no more was a whole different verse. Yeah. He said, yeah, he said that quick. Yeah, he said it quick. You know, and the crazy part about that is, you know, when I like, when I do verses, when I do verses, when I want somebody on my album, I give them my verse. Like I send my verse to him Because you want them to see the direction
Starting point is 00:35:08 You're going in it Like I want you to make the best song you can make If it's smoke If I'm asking you to be on my album Smoke me nigga Like it smoke me Take it
Starting point is 00:35:18 Turn this shit up Put it up to another level Yeah Um You know I noticed that I noticed that about people and shit But I feel like They're not
Starting point is 00:35:27 You know again They're not looking at it For the betterment of What it is that we do You know If I'm with another rapper Who's like a street rapper or whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 00:35:36 It's like, man, we got to be uplifting the genre. Right. You know what I'm saying? And that's why I give what I give. And that's why I, like, will give people my verses and so on and so forth. Like, that's what I'm on. Because I want this shit to be, like, top level when I do it. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I don't even like to do songs with motherfuckers like that. I don't like to, like a lot. You know what I'm saying? It's like, if you're supposed to be new, up and coming and hot, and you want a feature from me to the, for the game, I do it. Like, you know what? that's probably I just remember
Starting point is 00:36:06 like dog when I came in I had fucking Jada and Stiles on I'm not you didn't know from can of paint they have to do it
Starting point is 00:36:14 but they just did and it's like you know I feel like sometimes my manager would be like man why are you doing
Starting point is 00:36:21 this feature I'm like man you know this young artist who knows what it'll turn into but he may like that may be his vision
Starting point is 00:36:30 and shit man I can you can have that would you do a versus Would you do a versus? Nah, I wouldn't. Why? Because, man, I still got more shit to create.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I'm going to let them reminisce. Okay. You know what I'm saying? It's fun to watch. Well, versus ain't just for motherfuckers that ain't still creating. I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying I'm still creating. Like, I'm like creating at a high level. Yes, you are.
Starting point is 00:36:56 And it's like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I don't. That's shit you just spit on that god damn. That was that goddamn butter that make the fiend stutter. Give me enough. Yeah, he was talking that shit. Yeah, I don't, I just, you know, and I love watching it. And, um, I just, you know, nah, like I got other shit that I want to do, like, right now.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And it's like, I'm really racing myself and I'm racing legacy. You know what I'm saying? I'm really trying to, and I ain't trying to really relive nothing right now. I'm trying to like keep going to see how far this shit really can go. Yeah, what he said. He said, nigga, my life ain't no throwback Thursday, nigga. That's a fact. You know what I mean?
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Starting point is 00:38:57 Beans, though, you don't spread yet. But you is less as more. You don't spray it just in your bout you boutique out here. What is the importance of that shit? You don't, it's like they can't find you, they can't reach you, you're unreachable. Yeah, I try to be. And it's like you don't, I think a lot of us in social media,
Starting point is 00:39:17 we think being everywhere is being everywhere. And a lot of times being everywhere is being nowhere because you become regular. What is the importance of that? And where did you get that from? Man, you know, I just, I just, feel like if I ain't got nothing to say then I don't want to really be in the mix talking about nothing you know what I'm saying like I you know I could have been came on a million dollars worth a game you know what I'm saying like you know but like let's come up here for a reason let's really
Starting point is 00:39:48 talk about shit and like you know it's new music coming it's this shit happening um I'm not really one just to be outside just to be outside like I've been outside like I'm I'm now like really just focusing on the future and my craft and like what's going to take me to the next level what's going to take my people to the next level yeah like a lot of people really do be on social media like and they they spread their self thin and I guess you know they you know I guess you know it works for some people I just don't think it works for me because I don't I don't have something to say every day like I don't even get in and want to write every day like it's not no like you know that and that's why I think it takes me so long between albums
Starting point is 00:40:31 Like, it takes a long time to just craft some shit that I really, really like and I really, really love and be like, okay, this is it. And the world is ready for this. And I just have the faith that it's going to be great. Like, I just have that faith. So, you know, people be like, damn, man, you're taking too long. Like, I know. I mean, it is. It is in this time frame.
Starting point is 00:40:53 But for real, for real, bro. I lived with albums for two years and shit like that from how I was raised off rap. and they were saying that type of shit that made me want to listen for that long. And I'm just still trying to say that shit to make people want to listen for that long as well. And that's, I can honestly say, you know, I love that music today.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I love all the young niggas. I'll be banging these shit. I'd be... But that's the one thing that I could say is the difference between today's music and when I was growing up. The albums come and go so fast, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:28 you know what I'm saying like you'd be listening to it and it's not even a knock on the artist it's just so many niggas put albums out now that is you know what I'm saying like it back in the day it'd be it'd be kind of like like oh such and such and such and such such and such coming out on the same day that was kind of like a big ass thing because most of the time it was enough dates in a fucking year for motherfuckers. to get their own self a slot without nobody coming out. But now, really, you'll have four or five major rap artists putting albums out all on the same day.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Like, you know what I'm saying? That shit be crazy. But do you think, do you think to us, because we're in a different, you know, bracket, you know, age bracket, but even though we fuck with the young cats, do you think it's a young cat that wears though the same way to purple tape and, you know, Mobb Deep Infamous, I mean
Starting point is 00:42:26 36 chambers or whatever affected us or it was written effected us may affect them in that way and that may be their that may be their perpetrator
Starting point is 00:42:36 the little baby shit may be their perpetrators because I got young kids you know me I talk to my youngans I talk to the youngans all the time
Starting point is 00:42:45 I always ask questions you they don't them youngans be they listen to this shit and then they be on to the next shit you'd be like
Starting point is 00:42:53 you'd be like you still be We listen to, now, I don't really listen to that no more. You know, I'm trying to time. They do jump. But now I listen to him. Now, I believe that. He ain't put nothing out lately.
Starting point is 00:43:02 No, but I will say this. I will say this. What you have now is different. You have, and I can agree with this point. Right now, it seems like you have a fan base out there that's for everybody. They're not loyal to one person. They jump. It'd be like, whatever's popping right now, that's when I'm on more than like, you
Starting point is 00:43:19 know how, no, fuck that, Ray Quine, that's my man. Nah, you remember you, me, you was Niz and Jay-Z. He was nods down, Jay Zee, we arguing, fuck out of here. And we were hold on to that. Right. Even if it was nothing out. We holding on to that. Now it was like, oh, no, he's done.
Starting point is 00:43:33 No, but the youngs, they'd say a motherfucker done. The youngans hold on to certain motherfuckers. Yeah, certain. They do. Certain motherfuckers. NBA young boy. Yeah. Little Dirk.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Yeah. Little baby. Yep. You know, it's certain young motherfuckers that they hold on to that they had them same arguments because that's they biggie, Jay Z, and Naz and Tupac. And you feel what I'm saying? So, but. As far as the music lasting as long as it lasted when we was young,
Starting point is 00:44:01 it's not because so many, bro, it'd be motherfuckers popping who we never even heard of. And this nigger just came out four months ago when he in Tennessee. And now he got the biggest record amongst the youngans. And we never even heard of him. And we like, what the fuck is this? You know, I think a lot of, um, a lot of the, the fan, you know, the fans of today, the kids of today, they're fans of, they're fans of artists musically, but they're just fans of the artists and they fans of the lifestyle and they like that they can buy into, right?
Starting point is 00:44:39 You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, it, it, it, it may look like it comes and goes to some of us, but like, you got to, you got to look at like, man, is, is their fans really buying that merch? is they really tuning in to that show. Hit that link. Is they really clicking that link? They're making a lake break dance. You ain't making a lake break dance.
Starting point is 00:44:58 A lot of shit. But some of them do. Some of them do. Some of them do. Some of them do. Some of them do. Some of them do. Some of them do, you know, tear that merch and do a million of merch and all that.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Yeah. But it could be hard because now we live in the game where you can start rapping in January. And, you know, you get 3,000. You get 3,000 in January. And in March, you get 30,000. Because the club promoter, you know, the promoter game is definitely. Well, no, because your shit was stupid. It went stupid on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And the club promoter, and the club promoter had you there for 30, but he just wants you there because you're popularly not saying that this is your audience. So a lot of times you can't build your audience up like you're, you know, you'll build it up like you say buy your own tickets, create your own shows and all that stuff. Question to you, question to both of y'all, is it much easier now to get on or to get in the game than it was when y'all was coming up? Way easier. Way easier.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Way easier. Way easy. The only way we was getting on back in the day, we had to bump physically bump into a motherfucker. You didn't. Physically drive from Virginia to New York. To New York. Beg a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Hope to God you're not talking to the mailroom. Hope you ain't talking to the mail room, nigga. Telling you here A&R when you really ain't nobody. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Like, come on, man. You got to take them trips all the time.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Back and forth. Back and forth. Like, I feel like now. you know now it's really really up to you and it's a and it's a it's about consistency it's about consistency it's about knowing exactly who you speaking to and catering to that person right and it's really all on you right like you know what I'm saying like you really got to get this shit going you got to get this shit started yourself you know I'm saying first and then all the other hands come in and help and so on and so forth but nah it's it's way easier you just got to
Starting point is 00:46:49 believe and and stay consistent with it. And it's way easier because now you have youngings that went off personality man. Yeah, hell yeah. You know, the music could be, uh, the music cool, but the kid personality is all the way there. And so he runs around and he gets 30 and
Starting point is 00:47:05 $40,000 a night based off the fact that motherfuckers just think he crazy, wow, he young, wild, he don't give a fuck, and women is attracted to that. Yep. They attracted to a young nigga who's 19, 20, he young, wow, he don't Why you think all the young girls fuck would him be a young boy?
Starting point is 00:47:22 Because he don't give a fuck. You feel what I'm saying? He's talented. No, no, no. But he talented, too. But he's super talented. Yeah, for sure. But what helps him a lot is his personality too.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Yeah. You know, because that's what, okay, you're talented, but in this era, you could be talented. And if you, like, a doll nigger that really don't help you, like, you know what I'm saying? He talented any crazy. as fuck so that's like he got both going for him so it's a reason why he's you know what i'm saying he could do what he could do that a lot of motherfuckers don't understand bro this is a era where you your personality if you have it that can help you get to the back 1,000% maybe and sometimes
Starting point is 00:48:06 a lot faster than just the rapping shit so you know utilize your social media that's what it's here for you know to all the youngest this is y'all time we didn't have social media we had we had to We had to do that shit in a different way. Y'all got social media, got all these outlets, take advantage of that shit, man. 23. You say, 23 years ago,
Starting point is 00:48:32 the funeral came out. Yeah. 1990. Yep. Now, y'all was walking down the street. I thought y'all was from New Orleans first. Yep. Because y'all had the casket.
Starting point is 00:48:41 They were moving down the street. Y'all spit and you got the suits on. You're just going crazy. For those don't know, go check that out. Now you look at it. now I never you don't see too many artists that come through the game and get to the point where you at when I look on your Instagram only thing that I see most of the time is your family you got your little man and you're so happy like you always you always got him on there he just
Starting point is 00:49:07 being his own world he's in his own world and I'd be like yo he'd be wild and he just being he he ain't he on he ain't he on his own wave he don't care what's going on I'm like I'm be honest with you It's been, I just, I just, um, cleared my gram the other day. You know, just, you know, just getting rollout mode, whatever case may be. It's been killing me not to post my son. Because he being, he got his own, he got his own show. He got his own show in the crib. It's been, like, where did he go?
Starting point is 00:49:33 Like, he got his own, and he don't, he don't care about nothing that's going on. He's just being in his own world. But it's like, to see where you come to now, how is family, how is love, how is, you know, marriage? How is it? because you're so excited about it and you're always putting it out there, man. No, it's just, man, it's my foundation. It's like the motivation for everything that I do today. My son is 19 months.
Starting point is 00:50:05 You know, man, I don't even see, I don't see anything. Like, I don't see nothing past him to be honest with you. Everything I do, I do, you know, for them to. All right. For sure. I was about to say this nigga about to get the shit slapped out. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:50:22 You didn't go home. You didn't go home. You know, I just see my son. I don't see shit else. Oh, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. But then you two, pass them to, all right. You're about to get the shit slapped out of you.
Starting point is 00:50:33 No, for sure. Come on, man. You know, he knows. Come on, she knows. She know, but like, he's like, you know. But to see that, and the way you always putting it out there to let everybody see it, let your fans see it, let the young artists that look up to you see it.
Starting point is 00:50:46 because we all got somebody that we look to and we get, you know, life gain from or whatever. And you put that out there, that's, that's like, that's like amazing, that's good energy, man. And that's necessary because you see the growth and you're like, this is, yeah, this is a patty cake right here. Yeah, for sure. Just the push, like, this is, and it's like, you know, it's just.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I mean, I don't think it's like, I don't know, I guess, I think you sort of got to let people into your life a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for real. Like, it's not all... Yeah, I know, that's good. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's exciting.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Like, listen, the funniest part of, like, the funniest part of plenty of my days is, like, you and Tudy. You know what's tripping? Yeah, he'd be tripping. You know what's so fucking crazy, man? Yeah. We'd be out and about with motherfuckers. They don't even scream my name out.
Starting point is 00:51:40 They scream Tudy, me. Bro, they be mimicking online. That shit is, like, hilarious. Like, this shit is crazy, man. Yeah. I always fuck with it. You to start down. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah, she won't too. Shut up. She, because the, what thing I like about my wife is she really don't give a fuck about none of that shit. You know what I'm saying? So that really makes it even better because when I'm fucking with her, she never gives a fuck about it. Mine don't even listen to rap no more. Damn. She'd be in the car.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Sing on down the lie. Banging the country album Yeah It'd be the elevator music That's it That's it That's it That's it
Starting point is 00:52:22 Yeah because she tried to go To the next levels of life That's it Elevator Life would be banging The elevator music Thinking about going To the next levels of life
Starting point is 00:52:31 So Who do you ever feel That you ever did a song That was on a song of yours Or you was on their song Whatever And he smoked you Man smoked
Starting point is 00:52:44 Oh, they got out on you. Come on. They got out. You never got out. Somebody never got out on you on the verse. No, no, no, no. Listen, let me tell you something. You never had to call with your homies up here.
Starting point is 00:52:53 And tell us the story about when you first heard it. Let me tell you. I'm going to say a couple people who I feel like got some stellar verses on my album. Wait, wait, wait. You see, listen, you see the vein in his head because it hurt us as an artist. Just say a nigger got out on you. It's like. No.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I'm not going to say that, but I would say some niggas that the first is. No, no, no, listen, 1,000% I will say that, like, being on, being on Soul Paul with Hove, like, I feel like he, um, when you rap with him, right, I've been, I got, I got three songs with him now. Like, I send him, I send him shit, because I know he's going to say shit that I just can't say. You know what I'm saying? Like certain times, you know, and to me, that's what be wild impressive. I would say that nostalgia, me and Kendrick. Wait, hold on, wait, hold on. So what's the three songs you got will hold on?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Something for my new album. The new one that's just coming out? Yeah, I ain't, I didn't know if I was supposed to say that. I remember with y'all, though. It's cool. It's cool. We're here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:08 What's the other two? Drug Dealers Anonymous. truck just in honor. Who got out on who? I ain't mentioned that one. Hmm? I didn't mention that one. I mentioned Soul Paul.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Oh, oh, oh. What? He got out of. Oh, that's it. He got out of it. Say the more. He said, I ain't in this. Oh, he got out of it.
Starting point is 00:54:27 It's cool. It's cool. He barbecue bakes you. Everybody gets baked to, Hove. It's cool. He threw you in the oven. This is our saying, put a little season and all through you on broil.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Barbecue baked you. It's cool. But Hove got you on. So Paul. He barbecue. You baked you. He did his thing. He said he did his thing.
Starting point is 00:54:47 He saline, he didn't barbecue. So, Hove, you're on one for one. Now, on the new one. Oh, he got busy. I mean, he got busy.
Starting point is 00:54:56 To the one. Home barbecue. Don't let y'all tell it, but he got busy. He got busy. Hove, two to one. Anytime you say, he got busy.
Starting point is 00:55:05 But the process of it, when you hear it, you know, because it's Hove, and when you get it back, do you sit back and be like, did you ever try to do that shit i asked you early switch it up no no let me just change these four no listen by the time by the time i by the time i'm finished with the verse i know i've said like enough enough that like people gonna say it's great
Starting point is 00:55:27 now you know it's up to whoever else who's on it like you know to just like i said i'll do it i'll do it say some shit that i really can't say you know what i'm saying but like no i don't I'll be purely satisfied with my verses every time. Absolutely. Is it anybody in this game that you never work with that you want to work with? Um. That I have not worked with. Nah.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Damn. Nah. I mean, you know, right now, for real, man, like, I only want to make one song. Like, I only want to make one song. want to make hardcore street music for the remainder of my career I ain't like looking for like
Starting point is 00:56:16 I'm not looking for no chart positions I'm not looking for like a number one with the big hook with the opera behind me and the fucking like I don't care about that right like so I just you know I mean if I you know if a rapper
Starting point is 00:56:32 impresses me or something like that I you know I reach out to plenty rappers like yo you dope man what's up let's let's see if we can make something crazy but I only want to make one type of record yeah like I just want to make harsh so when you in the ESTG come man you know what I talk I speak to his manager often so like you know hopefully soon hopefully you know and I just want to find I know y'all get on there and talk some shit oh man that kid is incredible well yeah he's dope you know what's crazy I had a he's dope about a week ago was in North Philly stop a barbershop
Starting point is 00:57:07 and they was playing the re-up game. Oh, they was playing re-up gang. Now, now, if you had to establish a re-up gang today out of the artists out here, who would be in a new re-up game? Man, ain't nobody can be in a re-up game. Say no more. Bro, fuck no.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Like that, and I'm talking about, he was hoping you'll throw him in there. No, I don't care, I don't care who's doing what. I'm talking about as far as those mixed things, I'm talking about as far as those mixtapes, I'm talking about, especially volume two, it was like, it's one of the best mixtapes ever. Mm-hmm. And, I mean, like, what we was doing at that time, man, that was crazy. And I don't, I don't see that level of, like, pen right now.
Starting point is 00:57:57 I don't see that. Damn. That was crazy. It's different. It's great artists today. It just ain't that. Like, that's different. He had a bootleg version.
Starting point is 00:58:07 of y'all in prison knee-up gang he's a classical hater man he's mad because I was a better rapper than him he was in a knee-up gang in prison I was a better rapper than her you know what's crazy this was so crazy though it was crazy that the first time when me and Gil first started
Starting point is 00:58:27 major figures the first feature we ever had was ab lava he was the first person that we ever did you know he was the first we're going to steal he's like yeah we you know what ad was coming out of the subway with the long white trench coat on dragging on the floor lava laura listen
Starting point is 00:58:50 what are the great man i mean listen listen listen but but it was sure it was like this one i used to smoke gill on tracks you ain't never smoked his ass fuck out of here you got to stand you got to stand this heat like like it always go You never smoked me. Stop lying, bro. Listen, this one I was. That's why you did all my hooks. Listen, this one.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Because he couldn't keep up into rats. Let me hear what you got. I'm going to do the hook. No, the hooks, listen, you're lying because I had the hooks already laid. I had the hooks laid. Listen, this is how it was, but he didn't want to, he didn't want a rap. Like, he didn't really think he was that serious. So I said, all right, listen, just signed his paper.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I was his first manager. He signed anything off. Listen. He lying. Don't be saying it talking about why. You don't remember when I took you to that joint. I'm like, yo, we got to go do this joint. And we've done it for free.
Starting point is 00:59:41 I got paid. But that's another story. But the whole thing was like Lava came through. And Lava just was on some shit. He was talking that shit. And we was just like, we got to figure something out. We all was from the same neighborhood around, you know. And it was just like, this is what it was going to be.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And I was like, yo, man, we got to be. Then he went to prison under the stories. No, no, no. But you know why? I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. This one made me do with him C. He told us that.
Starting point is 01:00:05 story for two weeks. Yeah, because we got to stick together and then he was, well, no, no, listen. Get out of this. Shut up. So you think it's a twilight? You really weren't around, though. I wasn't. You never see me. You never see me because listen. But this was just, I was in the joint. I was in the slam. I was watching videos from the joint.
Starting point is 01:00:21 He was up there doing prison shows. And the cooker. Shut up to everybody. Everybody. My barred was crazy. My barge was crazy. Well, he went to jail. He was rapping like that. He was throw your hands in the air. I gave him the direction. I put the blueprint down. for the figures.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I said, listen, Cus, this is what we gonna do? This, we're gonna do fly a nigga rap. He said, what are you talking about,
Starting point is 01:00:40 Cus? I said, listen, listen. I said, I said, this is all right. We fly. The whole rap is about,
Starting point is 01:00:49 we put that shit on. We're going to fuck these bitches. Mm-hmm. We're going to get this money. Mm-hmm. We ain't looking for no trouble, but if you get out of pocket, we're going to pop your ass.
Starting point is 01:01:01 That was the whole layout of the rap. Now, this is my little cousin. You think. He told me that or I told him that. I gave you the game. I gave you the game. I was your first manager. You didn't even know what the fuck was going on.
Starting point is 01:01:13 I used to wash you up in the tub. I gave him the game. I broke the whole thing now of the whole structure. And then next day, you know, I'm in jail. I see him on Cetus' World. You remember Cetus's World? Yeah, of course. I said, yeah, that's us.
Starting point is 01:01:26 They said he passed out, fell out. I told me, listen, there's no bullshit. Walk up with his ass bleed. He liked that dumb shit. He'd be laughing at this shit in the crib. He always laugh at this shit. So I want some real shit. When I hear the shit, Push, I'm telling dudes, I'm telling y'all, you ain't shit, push.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I mean, that's what I'm saying. Y'all, y'all are all over the shit. You listen to this bullshit. I never forget. I'm telling dudes and listen, no bullshit. Y'all ain't shit, man. Y'all niggas is worst people. These motherfuckers ain't shit, man.
Starting point is 01:01:56 I mean. Now you know you didn't fuck that, Brad. Come on, man. How a niggas ain't. So I'm telling motherfuckers in the yard. Yeah, that'd be me. That's my They get the fuck out
Starting point is 01:02:07 You don't know them niggas man That's just being in the way power I was like yo They're like you see them boys From Philly man It's that third Until I pull my pitches out They thought I was just an imposter
Starting point is 01:02:15 Like a crazy jailhouse fan And some niggas From Philly I said no that was You know what I wrote And then they seen some of the rap I used to send home the guild And shit
Starting point is 01:02:23 That's the fuck out of it This one of the way It's the fuck out of here Man I mean So we got we got the balls The one and only The lyricist The legend
Starting point is 01:02:32 Mugin Well fucking And they got three of these, just for the record. Uno Dos Trace. Three. Where was your first location again? Norfolk, Virginia. Northfolk, Virginia.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Second location? Northfolk, Virginia. Damn, you're just fucking Virginia up, Virginia. They like this deal. One of the mall and ones in like the, like, freestanding. And just to let y'all know, this is top of the line high fashion shit. Like, I come in here and get two shit out of here. I got a bag out of here.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Motherfucker was quite expensive too, and I couldn't get you in the line. I was trying to get that motherfucking discount. Listen, for sure, like, cream got to be, if not, the best boutique on the East Coast, it's definitely top three in the nation. No, I said, me personally, I've never been in the boutique. I've never been in the boutique that was, you know, had the shit that you got in it, like from every designer, like the top of the line designer. The look is unmatched.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Absolutely. It's just like. Got a miry shit in here. You got everything here, Blentzy. He got everything in here, man. He got everything. in here. I'm glad to see you still fucking with babe, huh?
Starting point is 01:03:39 You put the motherfuckers on the mat. You know, yes, that's. Yeah, you put the motherfuckers on that. I won't hear none of you motherfuckers that we all talking about that shit first. No, that thing was talking about that shit I've never heard about that shit until he talked about that shit.
Starting point is 01:03:51 So shout out to you, man. We appreciate you for coming through, brother. Oh, we appreciate you for having us come through. You know what I mean? Cream, dope is spot of Philly, man. Like, you want that, you know, I'm talking about I've seen boys come down from New York. I didn't see people come from
Starting point is 01:04:06 I'm talking about Baltimore. Yeah. I didn't see them come from everywhere down here. Hit me up low. I got to go to Kram. I'm like, damn, you know what? They'd be on this shit. Keep coming. They be on this shit heavy, man. You're looking to open anymore? Yeah, you're one in Vegas. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Yeah, one of these in Vegas. No, Vegas kind of hot. Yeah, they got a lot of shit. No. Did you think about any other city? What city are you thinking about? I mean, I feel like like somewhere in the West Coast would be crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:35 But I feel like you'll be having pieces that nobody don't got so it don't matter where you yet. Yeah. Think about that. Maybe have some pieces in this. You be having pieces motherfuckers I ain't never seen. It's crazy. It's crazy because I feel like a lot of the demand comes from like where the, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:53 where those sneaker accounts, you know what I'm saying, where they're trying to open up at. So, I mean, whereas Vegas might be a good place, I feel like somewhere on the West Coast could use some. of this East Coast Energy. Arizona. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, Arizona'd be good.
Starting point is 01:05:09 That'd be dope, too. They got their fucking money in Arizona. Yeah, they got that thing in their bad. They're dying for some Christian Dior shit in Arizona. You got all that shit in here, man. So I commend you, man. Listen, man. Now, now, before we go, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:05:24 You got to talk about your label, you know. Airwave music group. I mean, Airwave is like, you see, I'll be seeing him promoting. I'll be seeing the artist. Tell us about that. Tell us about who to Tell us about these heaters Airway music group
Starting point is 01:05:38 It's a label that I established Out of Virginia It's basically We're basically building the foundation For like the Chitlin circuit For our area You know what I'm saying Just that whole Virginia DMV
Starting point is 01:05:53 Just that whole mid-Atlantic Right now You know We're working with a few artists Why not do? Shaolin Aunt White. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:05 You know. Shut up and White. Yes, sir. Out of Philly. Yes, sir. Yes. He was, he had song of the week on Million Al's River King.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Yes, sir. Yes. You know, and just, you know, it's just about, you know, establishing that foundation and, in, and, in sort of teaching the fan and teaching the people of the area, like, that you can, like, like, like your neighbor. You know what I'm saying? You can be a fan of your neighbor. Like, I feel like that's something that never really happened, us being from,
Starting point is 01:06:33 like I said being from Virginia we always had to run somewhere and try to get on right and I'm trying to like make it so that like we can we can be hot in our area and bring that energy towards where we at absolutely that's the goal and that's because usually to get on that's how you got to do it but like he said you know Philly was supporting the ground this that shit was so grainy though that Philly was like but I feel like you know and I feel like Philly's one of those places too is like you know it's it's when you think think of music is like boom it's new york it's l a lay but then you have
Starting point is 01:07:07 markets that are very strong a very impressionable that ain't the markets but they still make waves and philly was one of them places for me so it's like now maybe i wasn't backed by the biggest market but i was back by a market that was strong absolutely you know what you think about it
Starting point is 01:07:23 where we live at in america if you could lock this if you could lock new york jersey philly baltimore dc if you get if you get if you You could get business, all you need is three of them spots. Right. If you get three of them spots, right now, you can get enough.
Starting point is 01:07:39 I'm telling me, you get enough few. I'm talking about enough traction to really get the fuck out of it. Or you can live off that, off them three regions. Right. Doing shows because you're going to bang the small towns. You're going to do that. And just creating, put nice tapes out, selling the merch. That's the goal.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I mean, getting on some of these festivals within there, and it's a rap. Right. You know, and that's what it's about, man. You know, but listen, man, we appreciate having you push your tea. Thanks for having me. I mean like Love y'all Push your T
Starting point is 01:08:05 Yeah I'm still It's going down man I like when Gunner got you all though he was like push her Shit Shout out Gunner
Starting point is 01:08:17 Shout out shout out You know what I mean But I appreciate you bro man You already know man We've been kicking it for 20 plus years 20 plus You know what I mean Always been solid
Starting point is 01:08:28 Man tell your brother I said what's up man Yes sir You know what I wish you and your family the best health and just you know keep keep keep dropping that shit because your mouthpiece ain't expired a lot of niggas get old and they mouthpiece gets spoiled like milk your shit that shit you just nah he still he seemed like he's still warming up what niggis still warming up they could seem like he was godday that that shit sounded like he was
Starting point is 01:08:50 22 trying still trying to get a fucking check out here i am let's get it and it's just like that right Thank you.

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