Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 168: FEATURING LOBBY BOYZ

Episode Date: May 29, 2022

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Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Right. I know what's going on, nigga. Yeah, sturdy. Lobby, boys! Yeah.

Yeah. Don't make me fly. Huh. Pull over one that guy. And I'm hoping he won't be surprised. When I pull up the one of his side, don't make me And I'm hoping I catch him on lock And it's only a matter of time

Brut him out of his mind Don't make me fly Don't make me Slot Don't make me Slop Don't make me slap Yeah, yeah

Yeah Power We got the money and power Know that the city is out But spinning again Pull up with killings and robbers Get your little homies devouring Hey, energy, energy, energy.

I got that right type of energy. Hold on, let's take a little time out. Shout up to all of my enemy. I ain't no regular rap, nigger. They know I live without rap, nigga. Yeah. Showed up in front of your girl house. She don't want told you I'm that nigga.

Yeah. That nigger. Oh, like I love it. Oh, like I love it. They call me kissing a model in public. I want a honey. Hurry, said, nigger, you're bugging. You only live on so it's fucking.

Hey. They send me and how about the coup? All of this jury, I am, I am the truth, the roly is yellow, the diamonds is blue. Don't make me slide. Huh, put up one to guys, and I'm hoping he won't be surprised. When I pull up the one of his side, don't make me stop. And I'm hoping I catch him on live. And it's only a matter of time.

So, thank you, you, like. Oh, don't make me slide. Hey. Don't make me stop. Hey. Let's go, Gil. Let's go, Gil. Hey.

Hey. Hey. Hey. Lobby! Lobby boys! Bang! Now in trade, that's really my gang. Back to back.

We go inside to side. Everybody know we out. Side. Slide. Slide. Get money, nigger from uptown. Got bullets with me when I touch down. Wow!

Fuck round. Yo, but make me stop up in it. See, baby been tuckin it. Water on, I ain't tuckin' shit. Let's close real. Respectfully, you can suck a dick. And we're ever gonna come with it. They just know I get done with it.

Fifty shots, that's a drum. With it hit your block and let the gun whip it Telecop, you can fuck his ticket Tell your bitch she can suck it lick it's lit It's lit, it's back, it's up Back to back and back trucks, trump Shut him in the wrong house Get his ass back down

Let me fly Huh Yeah Lobby boys man Lobby boys, man Lobby boys is in the building You're now tuned into Mee, me, me, me, me, me, man

Million dollars worth a game We won't get straight to this New York City is in the building Yeah Harlem is in the building building. Brooklyn is in the building, man. It's going down, man. Listen, man, we got some season. I'm talking about some season. I'm talking about some

season hustlers right here, man. They've been in the game, man. I'm talking about getting bag, getting the bag over here. Getting the bag over here. A lot of dudes out here say they're hustlers, but they don't hustle. See, that's the whole thing. Yeah, I'm a hustler in all the package. Get locked up, get killed. The dope still going to move. But when you're a hustler, you

are going to hustle. It's all about the body language. It's about how you move in and out the building. Can you go in there, get the bag from over here, back from over here, back from over here, back from over here back just backing it down I'm remixing the name taking the lobby boys to bag boys just getting bags

I'm just being real dudes have been getting bags in real time just getting different bags Look at them I'm talking about getting a bag right there A little bag, look at a knockout That's a knockout bag Look at this shit He's going to knock you out

Yeah 100% We got that gasoline We're talking about LL You heard that hot tea We got it Now I'm going right into it man Been in the game Getting a bunch of bags

Big songs. Both of you all had big songs. How do you stay motivated? Motivation. You got to come from within. I mean, I ain't going to hold you. It's time. I mean, the game puts you in a place where you question yourself.

And you're going up and down on your journey. Losing yourself confidence because it's getting you confused. And we all, as artists, we all been through that because you're spinning around saying, damn, soon as you get to a point where you questioning yourself and them voice, is in your head is telling you you're doing too much of this you're not doing enough of that or maybe this is not the way maybe not that way then you lose that self-confidence you lose that supreme confidence then you're in a questionable

situation motivation sometimes come from the people closest around you and I'm gonna tell you and I'm gonna be 100% with you I was in a I was in a kind of like a funny place with the music but when we talked about doing this this whole album together this is both we supposed to be doing this 10 years ago but ain't no greater time than the present time but when Jim came

and we got in the studio it gave me back my motivation and it gave me back my confidence so that's you know I got this thing that somebody told me in this past two years but it was kind of my remedy anyway

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So I'm gonna say this You got Bon Jovi You got Metallica You got Eric Clapton You got Elton John Why is it that Only in the black culture

We try to limit on what we try to limit our greatness but these dudes performing songs from 73 right run around running around performing songs from 73 and shit right stadiums merch everything why is we coming to a place now

do you think we can to a place closer in hip hop whereas though we're going to be able to do it forever just like everybody else do it forever right we getting there um part of the issue is that the culture was very young 20 years ago you ain't have 30 old rappers because the culture itself wasn't old enough. Nowadays, you've got 40-plus-year-old fans, right?

So you've got to think, the average fan that was a J-Z life and a death in my lifetime, right? 98, 99, they was 20-something years old. They're in 40s now. They didn't stop becoming fans of the music or the culture. So the older the culture gets, then it gives artists opportunities. opportunity to come in the game sometimes older. You got artists coming in the game

in the 30s now. Right. Rapping. You didn't have that before. Shout out to Griselda game. Exactly. You know what I mean? Because back in the G.

So that conversation is changing. Back in the G, you couldn't handle niggas coming in the game. Not it couldn't. Dad had some type of gimmick songs. To the left, to the right,

to the room. Some shit like that. The culture wasn't old enough. Right. But to just come in like, no, I'm on some rap shit. Right. In a time where

niggas ain't on no rap shit. And you still take off? Yeah, that was a hell of a play they pulled off there. That was, I just think that was a, I think it's just major the way you, right now. And like you said, you, you said some shit that we didn't ever think about. The fan base wasn't, oh, it was still young. Right, you couldn't have, you couldn't, you just don't what he said. He's been saying that the last.

That's major. You couldn't. You couldn't. Like, hip hop wasn't old enough. It wasn't old enough. I thought about it, like, he's absolutely right. Hip hop wasn't old enough. We were still young when we first started.

You know what I mean? But as hip hop got older, you start to see old the artists still maintain any relative. I'm seeing all of them running around. They're running around. But even after them, right? So we, I think, I would like to think that the 90s era might have been our golden era, you know, for us. You understand, like the hoes, the Biggs, the DMX, Maldives, the DIP sets coming in early, late 90s, early 2000s. That was the error that lasted to right now.

That's my point. The 80s was the errors that got changed. They didn't last to the 90s Think about that big daddy caning on them Got cheated, special edding on them Got cheated Because the sound was so different You know what I'm saying? 9-4, 9-5

Biggie Aaron and all that Those are the artists Some of the artists are still That we still see today Right from Jay Z Nah, the Lox, uh Naz Dipset Like we still outside

A lot of these artists Still able to compete And make money That's right In 2020 too I think a lot of times With the artist too it don't even really be the fans

it really be self-confidence that's what I was saying because the artists at one time when you at your pinnacle you perform in that arenas and shit you feel what I'm saying and then once that start to go down you start to feel like

you ain't who you was no more you feel what I'm saying so now you back to doing you might be doing 2,000 3,000 1,000 you feel what I'm saying but at the end of the day you still getting paid to do something that you love.

You feel what I'm saying? That's what you got in the game to do, something that you love. Damn, I would love to get paid to do something that I love. But it really be the self-confidence, man, you feel like your peers looking down. Oh, man, that nigga doing 3,000 arenas now, man.

That nigga was just doing. Fuck all that. You got to keep going. Fuck all that because all that's going to do is that's going to take a shitload of money out your motherfucking mouth. And you're going to sit around. you're going to waste a bunch of time that don't need to be waste. So fuck with anybody think.

I don't give a fuck. I was a small town killer forever running around Norristown, Scranton, York, Pennsylvania, all through fucking Jersey, all through fucking Holbrookin and motherfucking all through Delaware and all shit. I had to stay alive. Right. Shit, I wasn't. I ain't that shit. The fuck was I going to do.

It was either that or go fucking be, go try to get a construction fucking job with somebody. with somebody that, you know, you try to be off the radar. Yo, I'm going to be up over here, fix the houses with my... Fuck that. I'm a me in the small town's killing them. Because it's still motherfuckers out there that want to see a, nigga. You feel what I'm saying? Life is like this.

Sometimes you're able to move fast. Sometimes you're able to, you have to move slow. Right. Right? I mean, as long as you're moving, though. Right? You can't move fast. Sometimes you're in a car that might not be going as fast as everybody else.

But you're not walking, though. Yeah. You understand? Definitely not welcome for you in the building. For real, right? So, you know, it's a journey. It's ups and downs. And like I say, the only requirement is the music to be dope.

That's it. That's it. So if the only requirement is the music, this is not sports. It's physical. This is with the mind. This is energy that come from within. This ain't like, this is the game different. This is not just, it's for everybody.

Right. And niggas be looking for the wrong shit. you know if you you you 35 you 40 you shouldn't be expecting old nigga that's 18 to be bumping you he look at you like you was fucking pop it's my fucking there ain't no niggins don't run around listen to they pops but it's a shitload of 35 30 40 40 50 year old niggas on planet earth that's going to love to ride around all you got to do is service them and be consistent And I was talking to Kiss one time. I was riding in the car talking to kiss.

I'm like, yo, bro, you know what happened a lot of times? And I was talking, he was like, you're right, Lo. I said, your era abandoned a fan base. I said, bro, I went to a Griselda show, Sony Hall, right? I go to the show, right? West out of them come on stage. I'm like, damn, look all these niggas in here. All these niggas, truck drivers, police officers,

Shoren's men, all type of niggas that was abandoned. Just forgot about it. All they could do is go listen to us. The old shit, but everybody forgot. Everybody was in this joint, late 30s, 40s. Motherfuckers, I'm talking about there was an army of niggas in there, man. Right. I'm like, dudes that got real jobs working for the city at the docks and all that shit.

I'm talking about totally a bent. These nut-ass niggas is in Harlem right now on all the bikes. That's your man Meek right there. Yeah, look at it. The niggas outside going cray. They're in the middle of Harlem. Yeah. Look at them.

Yeah, sure I talk about. So my whole thing, they're snapping. I'm coming back to haul over the second. I see you all in a minute. Listen, so, so what I'm saying is, motherfuckers, I'll be there, I'll be right back. Totally, they totally abandoned all these motherfuckers

because nobody was coming out to service them. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. Those are the fans that I was saying was in their 20s in the late 90s. That's them. Yes. Right? So that's what I'm saying.

When you talk, think about the time, in the age point, right? That same fan that you're talking about that right now is going to the Rosella shows, he was listening to DMX at the same time. So the fan base got older. They didn't stop loving the music.

Yeah, right. And listen, there's a fan for everybody. It's like, it's a variety. When you walk in a sneaker store, every sneaker don't apply to you. If you don't fuck with it, don't fuck with it. It's okay. Right.

Shit, push your team my age. you just had a number one album. What we talk about? Number one, on a billboard. What we talking about? Not Apple on the billboard church. What we're talking about. So it's like, I just look at it like this.

It is like... This shit hitting, too, Jim, I ain't going on. Oh, he said that. He said that. This shit hitting like Arnold Schwarzenegger at 86, you know. This shit's strong as shit, yeah. So listen. So listen, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, this is what I'm saying.

At the end of the day, it's just a, army of people out there that need to be serviced and people, you know what people chasing, and I told a young boy this. I said, Younger, your generation, the generation of right now, it's a seat of an unloyal fan based on it. They don't, they don't like

the artists, they like the song. And it's a big difference when you're doing music to understand that. It's like, I could dance to this, this shit was on TikTok, I'm rocking with it. So you got to be able to tap more into the fan to try to convert them to be a fan of you.

over the fan of a song right because because social media now allow you to see see when we was young we we didn't get to see a nigga all the time so we just had to believe a nigga music you feel what i'm saying you couldn't tell me certain niggas wasn't gangsters and i really believe that shit but then now you can see a nigga on you listen to his music you go to you go to motherfucker instagram at youtube you're for breakfast you like what that's it ain't that fucked it in that fuck the This thing ain't who he said. It fucked the fan energy up because, like, he's seen Niles. It was like, damn, it's not.

I seen Big Daddy Canaan. I'm like, damn this. But now a nigger, see him, motherfucker, would be like, because you got 10,000 followers, got the same watch, dirt got on. Man, them niggas ain't nobody. I'm just like, that's the mentality. So you made everything trivial because everybody's, everybody's lit, everybody's somebody. You got a chain, you got a couple of followers, you got a couple of bitches, you that nigger on your

block so it made everybody important right you got niggins that be like i got more money than rappers i'm more licked than rappers you know because everything is just in your face we don't have a long time to live with things also even with the music everything's so fast-paced that we don't get a cheap like albums used to come out a year two years now it's like you drop an album four five weeks later that's over niggas got come with a deluxe there you go now i'm to ask all y'all something. Everybody here, y'all got something in the common. All of y'all have multiple deals.

Now, I need to ask y'all. Jimmy was finessing. This motherfucker. He was a Frizzles and R's and all kinds of shit. They said Jimmy said, he had a director of marketing promotion of the A&R to Block. Jimmy was up there making up titles. Niggas, put the gun now.

I'm going to get you a deal. Shut up. I'm going to put you on the next thing. Go get this up in the book. Hey, listen. Ballet came out. Jimmy was in a bit of this. Doing all type of shit.

He ran through the bill. He said, Well, you're hot, you got to get it Let me run the label 100%. You got to do everything You possibly can't I had a good

I mean, I was in a great space I was in a good position I just ain't had the head for it I was still too young I had the opportunity now How old was you when you was A&R? 26 or 27 You just was wilding out

26 27 I mean I was still Very active in the street He was smoking at all This thing ain't that good Good, sucks. The dust. No, but I need to know

because all y'all, all y'all was on major and independent. Now, coming from your standpoint, and if y'all had to get some game to a young motherfucker, all three of y'all, starting with you, Jimmy. What is better, independent or a major? I mean, it depends on who the artist is. You understand, if you don't want to be an independent artist, you had to be very business-minded.

You had to come from a hustling background. You have to want to get up and get your own and know what it's going to take to get your own and be ready for a lot of discouragement. But if you're ready for that, the pay is very good. Now, for the average artist who wants to be a rapper or a singer or whatever, going to a major label might be a little bit better for you because you have a hell of a support system.

You've got a building that's going to take your artistry and help you propel it 10 times over if you really got some shit. So it was like pros and cons to the both of it. For me, it was better for me to go independent because Dipset was so hot at the time. And I tried to get major deals. Try to get a million dollars from Rockefeller. They dubbed me all the type of stuff.

and then sitting back and then watching how they used to do it in the south I'm like, yo, Cam, they're not going to care if we're going to death jam or Atlantic or whatever label. Long as they know dipset is putting out an album, we're going to eat. So you're like, you're right. That's why we took the independent label approach and did I deal

with Koch and made shit loads of money by taking that approach, and I think that helped a lot of East Coast artists start to figure out the independent approach can be more profitable if they dive into that. But now it's a little bit different because it comes with stream. So now you're dealing with the youngest that was born into the new millennials they called that was born into

this computer technology who actually figured out how streams could put money in their pockets before the labels do and that kind of had the labels back against the wall so it's a little bit different some of these artists are smart enough to accumulate streams to put a shitload of money in their pocket and when they get a shitload of money in the pocket they have this thing in their mind like fuck the label I don't lead the label because they figured out the loop but not knowing that the label is only going to enhance that dollar and when you get the label to start spending millions and millions of dollars that's a friend free bank that you really ain't got to pay back.

They say recoup, but it's not held against you for anything real in life. They just want you to get a hit to make some bread to pay them back and shit like that. So it's however you approach it. They say you get what you negotiate, not what you deserve. So you've got to be very small when you negotiate

and what you deserve. You may know. Nigger, everything he just said. Like, like, like, like really, though. Like, it's, it's to each his own because everybody's different. So, I mean,

the good thing about being on a major is that you're able to play with their bank, the marketing money, those marketing dollars, those resources, that's what you need, to propel you to start them. You understand?

Like, what they're spending on your song at radio, what they're spending for marketing, what they're spending on promotions, that makes the difference. That makes all the difference. I mean, marketing is everything. It's everything. in the world where you need to be out there.

So having those, those ad dollars and those resources of the building is definitely makes the difference. Now, depending on who you are, you know, independent could be a harder uphill battle. But like I said, every artist is different. Every situation is different. So, you know, it all depends. For me, I think in order, if you're an artist who you take it about border independent,

to go independent, you've got to have structure. and you got to have somebody that know what the fuck they're doing and somebody they got some money if you just are artists who just know who just know how to get in the booth and just rap and just perform and just then a major label is for you because you need somebody that's going to do everything else you know what i'm saying so independent be about having a motherfucker that if you look at all the motherfuckers that's independent and they and they won they all had somebody on their team that knew what the fuck they was doing from a record label standpoint or something or they had already been through the game like jimmy and them had already been on a record label for years

so they can kind of they in they know how shit running now they met everybody they know who they got to go to to do radio they know who they got to go through to do marketing they okay we might not be spending what we usually was spending but fuck it here you go we spending this okay we spending this so to go independent you got to have some structure if you're just out there with no structure and you just throwing records at the wind that shit ain't going to do nothing

even structure or a very high record that's the only thing you ain't going to need structure for if you got a sizzler on it and then there's different type of independence like you know this distribution distribution is the rawest independence you can have for yourself because that's just a label

that's taking 10% for them to distribute your records across all platforms forms digitally and... What about tune core and distro kit? That's distribution. Straight distro. That's the rawest form of independence.

That means they only take in a small percentage. You retain a big percentage, but everything is held on you. Then you have independent labels who are a smaller version of a major label who give you independent deals, but they take a little bit more than what a distribution label would take. So it's, I mean... And you got, like, many majors that's going to spend marketing dollars. That's going to spend some money.

It's not going to be... They're going to put a budget together. It might not be the The million dollar budget you was going to get At Sony But it would be something smaller You understand? So it's difference Because true independent

True independent is like Nick you ain't got nothing It's just you and Your money And your music You know what I mean And then you find some distribution And it's just you because

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I respect it, man. Man, what's the flyest part of the motherfucker in New York, man? Brooklyn. Mm. You lie, man. Wait, hold on. Wait, what I like, what I lie? What I lie?

What you're going to tell him? He's like, he's like. Why is it? It's bullshit. I don't give a fuck. You're talking about it. All of them. Listen, I love Allem.

I love Allum. They love me in Harlem. I come through Harlem like I'm from Harlem. They fuck with me in Harlem. So what you got to say? But Brooklyn, I mean, Brooklyn is just everything. Bro. It's just everything.

That's just everything. that's not fly. Like the flyest place in New York, the flyest place in the world, let's get to this. Known, historically. Historically, the flyest place in the universe

is Harlem. Wait, wait, how did it know the universe? Historically. Wait, how was that know what they said to fucking historically?

Have you seen Brooklyn lately? Historically. He made up. History. Google it. Google it. The most stylish place in the world. It's going to say,

oh. Really? Google. It's on Google. Let's check it out. I guarantee it. say Brooklyn. The most

stylish place in New York. The most stylish place in New York. Got to be Brooklyn. Most stylish place in New York. Downtown Brooklyn. Williamsburg, Brooklyn. But you got to say, see, when you're stylish,

Paris France. Paris France is the most Dallas place in the world. Stalice place in New York. It was like when he was in the office. They're wrong about that. Paris Malloy to Harlem is crazy. Yes, it is.

About the structure, like they got the iPhone tower and shit like that. The top 10 fly. What are you talking about? For Eiffel Tower and shit like that? No, no. No, no. You got to see if you did. Yeah, you got to put like for fashion. New York City.

All right, but you got to make sure. The most stylish place in New York City. Fashion, though. You got to make sure they say fashion. Man, they're going to say the Bronx. That's crazy. That's crazy. Shout out to the Bronx.

Shout out to the Bronx. The Bronx is like the same. It's like the same. That's not true. That's not true. Shout up. That's not true That's not true

The Bronx is about it saying Listen what it's say What it's say low It ain't pop up Is it any truth today Is it any truth The Bronx is the dirtiest part I listen

I don't know The Bronx and Brooklyn We ain't have a lot of similarities No they have a lot of similarities And all of them is like cousins Y'all know You don't know You're not all similarities

You're going to see The Bronx in Brooklyn Definitely have a lot of similarities Because we're close Symetically Don't mean that That that way that And they're not connected by family.

You don't have a lot of similarities like the style. No, that's definitely. We don't even talk the same. Timberlands. Y'all say B. Y'all say B. We're going to fuck the interview up. You've got to get because this is going to go all the day.

This is an everyday situation. This is an everyday situation. Because naturally, Holla niggas is the flyest niggas. I don't know what you're saying. Naturally. Listen, just in case nobody knew out there in TV land, I'm from Bestai. That's cool.

That's what they call best style. the Harlem of Brooklyn. You got to stop. Damn, he remixes a lot of shit. You got to mix it. You got to mix it. You got to mix it. He remixed it.

You just remixes. You ain't so ready rock. It was already mixed. He remixed that shit. They called best out of Harlem of Brooklyn. It's crazy. Listen. What part of New York got the best rappers?

Naturally Harlem. What the fuck? I don't know. How do you want to say hall? What? Brooklyn got the best. Come on. Brooklyn did have big you, though.

Ed Hove. That's it. That's all you got to be leaving dead. You're leaving there. It's over. It's over. We got dipset. What happened?

Okay. We love the kids got d'is. But Biggie, though. I'm saying, you can't put Biggie because Biggie's the greatest of all times. He was cheated. He didn't get to show us how fly. He was about to be. So you did.

Like, I never could never, ever compare anything to Biggie or Tupac. But Fab, the Fly's nigger in Brooklyn. He's from Brooklyn. I mean, flies nigga in New York. He's from Brooklyn. He's cool. Definitely. He said he's cool.

He said he's cool. That's my man. Shout out to Spitz. Spitz is a superflower. We already established that. He got a problem with it. He got a problem with it. But then we get on camera that Harlem come out. He's cool.

Shout to Spitz. He's cool. Nigga, all right. Nick, all right. He's going to get that. He's going to buy an outfit just for this interview. Yeah. They're right in caption.

Fabler's the only, they got no workout on Christian Dior or shit, man. He got Chris. He got Gucci shit on. I'm like, nigga. You're spiked. He's fat. The thing is this It's not even, see the thing is this

It's not even just the office It's the coordination The socks With the wristbands The head bang Like it's just crazy Like Everything everything is coordinated perfectly

Man fucking off the hook Who the top five Greatest rappers from New York Of all time That's crazy Why people always do I was like the top five I'm like somebody's actually

After the other day And it's like Damn it's like That's crazy because it's just like so many rappers I love from New York coming up. I can't be like top five. It's too many. I can't talk about slick Rick, Rock Cab.

Hey, so who did? Big Daddy. Keteris won. That's like, that's just, that's just right there. Like, you dig. And that's just that era. You did? Like, gang star, you're going to make me forget about gang star.

Like, it's the, you can't just. Altru magnetic. See, now you went a little deep. Yeah, you went deep. No, he had hip, hip, pop his story. You don't get fuck with him on that. Cool, Keith said. Cool, Keith said.

Cool, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm the greatest I've seen in the whole wide world. Ain't nobody saying that to him. Wait, wait, hold on, just for the record, just for the record, this nigga's a hip-hop historian. I'm crazy. None of y'all nigg's don't got more knowledge than this nigga and all that. Cango Kid. No, Kango.

I just met the Cango Kid son, too. You did? Oh, no, and his son, you ain't talking about Cango Kid. You didn't met him. You didn't have no Cango, though, back in the day. Oh, no, he died, right? No, he had a jerry curl, the dry joint. The Cango Kid.

A single kid die, he passed away I gotta do my research, I ain't sure I usually know shit like that Yeah, I think he passed away I think he just passed away I gotta ask you a question right Welcome to another episode A million dollars worth of a game

Business spotlight Where we bring to you the news you can use And just information man That you can utilize And can help you take your game To the next level today We got Mr. Tax Free call in here Listen man

Coldfield advisors man This dude Listen when I say tax free The game he was giving us It's unbelievable The game he's going to give you It's going unbelievable Before we will begin

I'm telling you right now Now, right now, before we begin, what I need you to do right now, I need you to text game. The 312-847-2-2-2-2-247-2-2-20309. Right now, he's giving away 1,000 e-books on how to be tax-free in the game when you make it money. And guess what? The first 100 people is going to, listen, have a chance to win $1,000. Somebody out of that first 100 that, listen, the text is a number, got a chance, listen. I understand this.

His e-books cost $200. So this man sitting here giving away $200,000. No, $200,000. $2001,000. Because he's giving away $200,000 of e-books and he's going to get somebody a thousand dollars in cash. Our job is to pass down the information we have, right? So that's what I'm about. Tell me where you come from, Carter.

Yeah, man, so I come from the south side of Chicago, bro. Nine of us in a three-bedroom home. My mom, dad, when I was 14, and my dad dad, dad when I was 16. And respectfully, it's probably one of the best things that ever happened to me because it made me grow up at 16. most people don't grow up today, 25. So I look at it. I had a head start on my peers as far as getting my life together and going on the right track.

So that was tough, man, but I found a mentor. And if you found a mentor, your life can change forever. And my mentor told me these two things. He said, if you're tired of being broke, you want to make money. We're wealthy people do two things. They make their money work for them, and they keep the IRS out of their pockets. So if you can teach people how to invest their money or teach people how to keep their money, you'll never have to worry about money again.

And so I ran with just diving in. I got my CPA. I'm a tax strategist. And my goal is to teach every entrepreneur in the world how to keep all the money that they make. Y'all teach them a million dollars with the game, right? My job is to help you all keep it. That's simple. And how do you go about that?

Like, what's the first? Like, if I'm just a regular guy, I'm doing my thing, I started the business. I'm bringing in $200,000. Well, how do I keep this money? How do I keep from paying all them taxes? That's a fact. So two things you need to know about taxes. Number one, the tax code was made to benefit entrepreneurs and investors.

So if you're an entrepreneur, you're creating jobs for the economy, they're going to give you tax breaks because they don't have to do that. If you're an investor, you stimulate an economy, so the government, we got you with tax breaks. So as long as you own the right team, that's number one. Number two is you have to understand how tax write-offs work. Being a business owner, anything you do that is related, any money you spend that's related to your business, you get to write off on your taxes. So y'all have this podcast equipment.

Anything that is ordinary and necessary for you to operate your business, you can write off in your taxes. So what I teach people is why not live your best life but get the IRS to pay for it. So to your point, let's say something. entrepreneur has $200,000, right? The average person pays 50% in taxes. That's $100,000 tax bill. But I would encourage an entrepreneur, hey, you just made $200,000.

Why don't you take advantage of what's called the auto deduction? So there's a way that you can write off cars in your business easily. So I would tell them, hey, go look at a Mercedes-B-N-G wagon, $200,000, right? You don't have to pay for the whole car. You can simply finance the car, put $10,000 down, finance the rest, as long as the car weighs over 6,000 pounds, the IRS will give you a $200,000 tax deduction. And you only put $10,000 down.

So all you have to do is get a car that you want, use it for business, podcast, social media, whatever. And the IRS gives you a $200,000 tax deduction for the cost of the vehicle. You ain't even paid for. You just financed it. So say if somebody out here, they're doing anything, they're an influencer, right?

This is fine. Okay, it's good. They're influencer. They're all on social media. They're doing anything. They represent brands. They get money coming into the LLC based off of them. what's name? Could they write off

the Louis Vuitton, the Hermes, the Go Yard? Could they write that shit off, isn't it? Yes, let me teach you how to write off clothes, which is very important. So many people are scared of the tax code. They don't even bother trying, which is the problem, right? So let me give you all game of how to write off clothes. If you go shop and buy a garment and you get your logo visibly stitched or pressed on the garment, right? So, you know, a million dollars with the game, whatever. You get your logo visibly stitched. The IRS now sees that as advertising, because you're now a walking

advertisement for your business. Therefore, you can write off the cost of the clothes, the stitching costs, and every time you take it to the cleaners. So these are ways that you can deduct your clothing expenses in your business. Now, luxury is a little different because it has to be ordinary and necessary. My thing is this, why not get a brand deal? If you get a brand deal with Rolex, and you can write out all the Rolex as you want, because as long as it has a chance of bringing you in money, it's now tax deductible.

So my encouragement, if you're an influencer, go whatever brand fashion over, Whatever brand you want, you know, get an affiliate link with them or get some type of branded with them. And now you can write off every time you buy their clothes, every time you travel with it, every time you do content. Like living tax free is not hard. You just have to be smart. You know, so, all right, so now the big dogs, when you're a big dog, you know, the millions coming in. Oh, let's get it. All the type of taxes, you get millions.

Millions. How do you like, listen, you know, because all the big guys, man, the big. This is y'all. Oh, yeah. This is y'all, you know. But all the big guys, you know, getting a shitload of money. Yeah. And how do you protect that real money when you get them M's?

For sure, for sure. So wealthy people do something very simple. And I'll give you all strategy in a second. But they simply use their money to buy assets. And then they borrow against the assets to get the tax-free money. So there's a strategy called buy, borrow, die, right? Shout out to my bro, Chris, for reminding me about this. But it's a simple strategy that millionaires use to live tax-free.

You buy real estate, right? And over time, the value of your property goes up. So let's say you bought it $100,000, I'm at $100,000 and it goes to $500,000. You can take out an equity loan and get that $400,000 out. And the IRS does not consider loans taxable. So that's a $400,000 in tax-free money. Then before you die, you buy life insurance, right, for the same value of that building. So now when you die, the life insurance proceeds, go to your kids tax-free, they can use that money to pay off the building you just bought.

So you just got a deduction for getting that. the property. You got tax-free money from the property for taking out a loan, and then you get life insurance when you die, your kids get the money tax-free, and now you pass this piece of real estate down to your kids. So I tell people, if you're going to get into this millionaire game, you have to start using your money to buy assets, right? Y'all are business owners, right? Y'all have the million dollars worth of the game. Y'all can simply open up a solo 401K or step IRA, put $65,000 or $120,000, depending on your situation, and you all get a tax deduction for investing your money.

That's what wealthy people do. They invest their money and write it off on their taxes, and then the money can grow tax-free as well. That's major. Now, when it comes to getting audited, how do that play? Well, yeah, so you want to keep the documents, right? So we talk about all these strategies, but I would be remiss to say, like, yo, you need to keep your receipts.

You need to keep your documents. Get a good bookkeeper, right? All these people in your team. are tax deductible as well, but you need a financial team to be keep a receipts. If you need an app, I recommend everybody use QuickBooks,

which I use for y'all. QuickBooks. Use QuickBooks, keep the receipts. Take a picture of it, Joe, and then upload it into the software, but it's so easy to avoid getting audited.

Actually, let me give you a tip. Take your tip. You told me, well, I'm not going to get into that, but LLCs get audited fairly often, less than 1%. If you upgrade your LLC to an S corporation, it decreased your

audit risk by 1,500 percent. So you are 1,500 times less likely to get audited once you move from an LLC to S corporation and S-corp's help you save on taxes. So this is my whole thing. Now we don't get into it. Let's get into it. At the end of the day, a lot of people don't understand the pain that come with paying taxes.

It hurts. I think most because shit didn't hurt in me. I'm talking about me and, you know, crying in the corner sometimes. it just be hurt because the past there's so much money all over and ain't nobody robbed you ain't nobody threat your life you just have to just like here you go you just be like damn here's the advice I can give you do you know there's two tax seasons go ahead most people think it's one there's two tax seasons there's tax saving season and there's tax paying season most people worry about taxes January through April once the previous year closes out there's nothing we

can do about it but you need to be focused during tax paying season that's july through December. You need to be meeting with your CPA, meeting with your strategist, building out a plan on how to save on taxes. All right, y'all need to get this Mercedes Mercedes Mercedes-Benz AMG, y'all need to get this EURIS. Yours is $450,000. You can put $50,000 down. You can get a $450,000

tax deduction for getting a dream car, right? So you need to be focusing during tax planning season. And I think it'll help. Oh, I got another hack for y'all. Can you get one more? Yeah. Well, keep doing your thing. So this strategy is call your board of advisors. And the reason I teach this strategy is because it's not just about living tax-free,

it's about living your best life and having an IRS pay for it. So if you're LLC, just an IRS corp, whatever, you can have a board of advisors. It could be your homies, your family members, whatever. The IRS allows you to have four board of advisor meetings per year, anywhere in the country you want. So you can go to Dubai, with your family, call it a board of advisors meeting, sit there for four to five days, you know, to talk business for one hour and then go kick it the rest. And you can write off

the cost of the flights. You can write off the lodging. You can write off the meals. All this stuff while you're traveling with your family and traveling with your friends. You now call it your board of advisor meetings. I'm going to Brazil next month to do mine. And it's always on how to like, again, I'm living my best life. How much is it for free? It's about five, ten, maybe ten bands. But again, when you get to a certain income level, you are looking for tax deductions. Because you have two choices, bro. You're even going to spend. shit accordingly for the company are they going to take that shit from you did you hear about grant cardone yeah when he bought the jet why aren't we doing stuff like that why aren't why don't we

have people in our corner teaching us hey man you need to go buy this get this yeah um to save on taxes bro like i'm not giving them 50% of my i'm not if you give the IRS 50% of your money you worked half the year for free yes you did god damn god damn but listen listen you know a lot of people say they want to be a million i want to make a million dollars how much if you if you don't got the game how much you paying on tax tell them how much you got to pay on taxes off a million dollars. Yeah, $510,000 on average. So average person pays 51% in taxes. Why 51%? You got federal tax. You've got state tax. You've got FICA taxes. You've got city tax, sales tax, all these combined. People just thinking about the feds when they don't break

their shit down. They don't bring you down. You remember about to tell you about that city and county. Yeah. Outside of the feds. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking that's so now you got, bro, that's a lot of money. And that's why, again, I'm going to give these people the book for free because like, You can't build generational wealth if you're giving half your money away. Yeah. It's just impossible to do. So my thing is like, yo, if you work hard and the wealthy people I know, they don't pay taxes, they either pay somebody, they pay a good accountant or they learn themselves, right?

And the most expensive tax we pay as a black culture is the ignorance tax. That's a tax of not knowing. The tax of that wanting to know. The tax of putting your head. The tax is turning your head around, you know what I'm saying? Like, we shouldn't be doing that, y'all like. I paid the ignorant tax. We definitely paid.

Listen, we definitely paid the. I mean, I paid the federal, the state, the fig of the ignorance, the stupid, and the jackass text. All of them texts, but I'm going to say this, though. Right now, this is what I need people to do, right? Because all this game he's talking about, he's giving out on his e-big. What you need to do is you need to text game to 312847-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-209. Mr. Tax-Free Carter, listen, he's going to bless you. The first 100 people that text is got a chance of one of the 1,000 people, but he's giving away

$1,000, a thousand e-books. A thousand. He's given away $1,000 to the first hundred people. Somebody got a chance, but he's giving away a thousand e-books. These e-books cost $200 a piece. He's giving a million, I'm talking, a million dollars worth of a game to save you a million dollars. Save you a bunch of money. Let me just tell them.

So, like, when you get the e-book, whatever, I've never given this way for free before. It's the first time. It's a million dollars worth a game. It's a million-dollar worth a game. You got to come correct. I'll teach you all that, like, every tax strategy I know. I know we have to go over really fast here, but we haven't even talked about how you can write off your rent.

Talk about it. You're giving away all the free game here. So here's how you ride off your rent, right? It's actually not that hard. If you are a business owner and you have a home office, most people work from home during COVID, they have to build a little home office. If you have a home office, the IRS would let you take what's called a home office deduction. And the way you calculate this is you just take whatever the home office area, let's say,

let's say you have a thousand square feet in your apartment and your home office is 25% of that. So you got a $250 square foot home office. You take that percentage, whatever your home office percentage, if it's 25% you multiply that by your rent. So if your home office represents 25% of your home and your rent is $4,000 a month, you're getting $1,000 a month tax deduction from working from home, something that we're already doing.

But most people are not taking these deductions because they don't know that. And my thing is like, I'm in rooms with a lot of wealthy people and unfortunately they don't look like us and they talk about this to their kids at the dinner table. We don't get that talk at the dinner table. table because our parents didn't know and they can't teach us what they didn't know and a lot of us ain't even sitting at a den the table no more they even talk to our parents in social media

social media took everything over so it's like a lot of kids get McDonald's in the eye pad yeah that's the fact and and my thing is like yo if you're going to build generational wealth so if you have kids y'all have kids yeah okay you know you can pay your kids from your business you can pay your kids from your business and they receive the money tax free and you get a tax deduction for doing it at the same time. You're going to this. You're going to a more. What did you pay in the floor?

So have them do work in your business. Sleep the floors, clean the equipment, do whatever you want. But you can pay each of your children up to $12,900 per year from your business, doing a little work in the office. They get that $13,000 tax free. You get to get a $13,000 tax deduction for paying them. And they can use $6,000 of that money to invest in something we call our raw. IRA.

Yeah. A Roth IRA. And if they invest $6,000 in a Roth IRA from 7 to 17, they will have $170,000 and tax-free money waiting on them when they turn 18. Now we're setting our kids up for actual generational wealth. You know, now they can start a business. They can do whatever they want instead of like having, you know, credit cards in their name, like what my parents did for me.

You know what I'm saying? So I think, you know, it's really powerful, man. Your parents had the cable bill. Cable bill and, yeah, and the phone bill. A nigga was six with a cable. Yeah, $10,000 to your $10,000 bill on his name. No disrespect. They just didn't know what they didn't know.

Absolutely. But that's no longer your excuse. So y'all go text the word game. Well, they knew what they knew. They fucked their name up so they had to use yours. They used the only clean one in the house. They had to watch the game. So y'all go text the word game to 312, 8, 4, 7, 23,09.

I'm trying to give y'all the game for free. I'm trying to give y'all the game for free. I'm trying to give you all. I need a e-book. I ain't texting. I ain't texting. He's all the e-book. So e-book has the tax-free living strategy that we talked about today

Plus the list of deductions that they can get from A to Z So if you don't know what you can deduct You got one for us right now, right? I can, yeah, it's an e-book, so I can just give it to y'all. Yeah, you'll text that to me. And y'all got my numbers. Hit me up, but I told you, like, if I don't help y'all say If I'm texting you right now, game.

Of our friendship, if I don't help y'all say at least a quarter million dollars in taxes, I fail with y'all as a homie. Say no more. As a friend. Say no more. Okay. Don't fail me now. I want to say one last thing to the people.

So it's not, you know, it's not just about, you know, keep the bag, too. I know a lot of people, a lot of you all are not making the bag yet. A lot of them haven't made their first 10,000, 50,000, 100,000, right? So me and my team came up with this initiative called Melanin and Money. That's where you can go over there from, brilliant, back being in America. And we have a community called the Melinda Millionaire Club. We teach them every week different strategies how to become a first generation millionaire

in your family. And I want to some special because I know you have a lot of people that are aspiring for that. So if you go to Melaninamoney.com for slash join. Write it down. Okay. It's going to pop up on the screen. Melaninemoney.com for slash join. I'll give everybody, anybody, a dollar trial two weeks.

Come in there, see what we about, take some classes. Come to when I'm in-person events. Like, I'm, bro, I'm from the dirt. Like, if I told y'all, I'm not supposed to be here and I'm talking about the emotion, I'm not supposed to be here, bro. It would be irresponsible for me not to pass down my information to other people. There's so many people that still struggling, bro. So many people that we know, and we made it.

Like, they look at us like, yo, y'all up there. So we wanted to create a way, man, to pour back into the community and give them some ways on how to learn from us, so they don't have to learn from people who don't look like them. Right. That makes sense. Yeah, write that down. Tell them where they go ahead again.

So you can go to melanchinemone. Mellinemoney.com. It'll be on a screen, 4 slash join. All your audience gets a free dollar trial for two weeks. They can come, stay, leave, whatever. But I want to get an opportunity to see something greater. You know, like my mentor tells me this all the time. You can't be what you.

you can't see. Right. So if you never saw a millionaire or $100,000 there, you can't even see yourself. Like, when you was in prison, how was it like that for you? Like, you couldn't. Right? And I just admire you. All you can see was the Twinkies.

He's a nut. I still don't understand. We're talking about this offline how you came out of jail with a mindset of thinking you could become something more than what you were in that moment. Because I ain't let, I ain't let prison make me angry. A lot of us come home from jail, angry and entitled and tough and tough. I wasn't going. I wasn't with that shit.

My whole thing was like, there's a bigger world out there. Tomorrow's going to be better than yesterday. So I wasn't on some, oh, I'm tougher than anybody. I'm realer than anybody. No, I just came home happy. You know, I did. I went to jail for some shit I did. It wasn't like I was innocent and that.

So I knew I was there. I did my time. I came home and I said I got another shot. And I salute you both for doing this. Like, y'all, I know y'all think y'all how many lives y'all changing, bro, but y'all really, like, change the game. So I just want to let you know. Appreciate you, Carter.

So make sure y'all text game. Yeah. to 312-847-2-203-09 get that e-book and the first hundred is going to have a chance to win a thousand dollars we appreciate y'all for tapping in for this business sake and that was another million dollars where we're game business said tap in missing tax-free carter and it's just like that right i mean jim got the trap phone jumping this is a serious question i need to know this and it is two artists right who was the bigger artist joe button's a gilly Who had the biggest song? I didn't know.

I'll say Joe Bunch has a bigger song. Damn, my God. This is crazy. This is crazy. No, no, fuck that. Just how you can answer. Who had a bigger song? Hey, listen.

That's how you did it. Just how you think is could answer that last question about the New York Friends. That's wild. Why you be handing on your man like that? That's crazy. He was a bar. Yeah, that's crazy.

He was a bar. No, he was a bar. He used to do bar tours. What? Just tour bars. He just tore bars. He had a couple of them joints up in Brooklyn. Just the bars, a little local joint.

I remember, no, I remember me and Gil. I remember Gil used to come to me y'all. See how he passed over that shit? Me and Gil was cool. Like, you used to pull up. He's a nut-ass thing. That's what I'm saying, man. Bar-a-to-a-tus.

I did a record with Gil years ago. Then we did a couple, maybe. But listen, y'all forgot, y'all ain't answered this question, though. Outside of that, we already know Joe Biggin' and you and Rapp. But listen, what I wanted to say was this. Joe had the biggest song. This song was way bigger

than anything you ever did. Caban. That's going to pump, pump, pump it up. Joe, they get it tough. All that shit. He Joe spit better than you. I got Joe. Smack, we can set it up.

We can set the shit up. I mean, I'm just saying, yeah. No, no, smack. We're going to do the battle. The battle. I could beat the shit out of Joe butts in the battle. My nigga from Harlem, though. This is the best battle ever.

Who? Who the best fucking smack battle ever from Harlem? The most slick-talking ass nicked. No Loaded Lutz Is he That nigga was talking that shit

Shout out the loaded Lucks This is my guy right there Shown the Lucks go crazy Lucks go crazy Shout out the Mook and Lucks Yeah but Mook is good But Lutz was just I don't know

He was something else I'm talking about That nigga was talking slick That nigga had wings on his tongue He was talking that shit Now When it comes to How many fucking deals you had Jim

In my time? Yeah Ooh I really had a lot of deals Like um Right now I got like four deals running Um Damn

I'm gonna buy to get a deal For this Spanish album too Um So let's see Hey you ain't Spanish I am Spanish I don't have Puerto Rican You is

Yeah Nick speaking some Spanish Oh I ain't say I'm fluent like that Oh shit But I got a whole Spanish He's gonna be on the track Ola Yeah

I got I got But, no, no, no, no, no. You got, all right. It's called Broken Spanglish. Moe being. Shit like that. Arosa, boy.

Oh, shit, ain't go big no sense. Way earlier than that, but I ran through a few deals. I had a diplomat deal. We had the Koch deal. I had the deal up at Warner Bros. For a bird gang. I had another deal. up at one of the brothers for something else.

There's like two other labels that I had got with. I was just using, when I had the opportunity to get money and put as much people on as I could, that's what I was doing and things like that. So I was just, like he said, I really was pillaging and going in these offices and putting on niggas that I knew that was doing music and shit like that.

Like I cut a lot of checks. People won't say it. I put a lot of money in people's pocket just off the arm. That's major, man. When did you know you was, when did you know you took a turn? Like, because when you first came out, you was more like just on some hype man type. I'm backing my man. You know what I'm saying?

I definitely was the hype man. I was the right man. I was everything in between. No, no, say this. Please tell these niggas that important to be in that just holding your man down some time. Because we live in the world where nobody want to hold their fucking man down. That's one of the most important jobs you could have for anybody that's going to be successful. They got to know the rules to this shit.

Like, everybody got to play a position, and I play my position to the T, to the point that I'm well off in life right now, and I can never take that away from Cam. We had a plan, and my job was to make sure end or be, oh, nothing happened to him, and he was safe at all times, and we was rocking at all times, and anything that he needed or desired I would try to get or whatever was I had to do to get and things like that. And in any situation we was in, if I had to bite the bullet, but that's what I was going to do. And I was willing to do that wholeheartedly,

and everybody knew that. And that's how we carried it. And from that, it was like a trickle effect. Everybody that was behind me took the same care of me, like I took care of Cam. And then same thing for Joel's. And that's how we kind of moved in accord, like, an army and shit like that, because we all knew at the end of the day

it was people that was important. And something happened to them, then it's nothing that's going to happen for us. So you being a hype, man, you being fucking slats. security everything you got to be for your man and then you say okay fucking let me let me let me put my motherfucker feet in water let me see what how this shit going to work out for me when when did you know hold up all right i got something this shit moving this this okay i'm on now i got my own

i'm doing my own thing now you know what i mean not my own thing but you feel what i'm saying i got my own name out here and respect it on some rap shit and not just i'm i'm the hype man i'm the you feel what I'm saying? It was kind of a plan from the beginning. If you remember, I was on everyone in the Cam's album, even when I didn't know how to rap. And he used to always tell me, once you figure out how to rap the same way you're acting the street, you're going to be a star, you're going to get a lot of money.

But we're going to do it like this until you figure it out. And we'll make sure it's an open field to whatever you want to do. That's why you see it ended up doing video directing. I end up being a manager. I end up engineering his albums. I end up doing everything under the sun, marketing everything because it was an open playing field. One thing we knew is what we wanted the people to see. when Diplomaster's on the screen and things like that.

So the first part was about business, and I knew I had the music, the playing field, and then I started watching Cam and May start making too much money doing the music. Like, it was just getting too much. It was getting too much. They're getting $30,000,000 a show. They're coming in with the mumps. I'm making good money, but I'm not making no artist money.

So I started to take more dive at it. By the time he got signed a Rockefeller, that's when I really started jumping into the music. And I was like, 01. I remember I recorded my first song in, I forgot the, what's the name of the studio? It was coming to me. I remember I recorded my first song in it.

Actually, it was the year Philly had the All-Star game here. 2003. I tell everybody's story. I never forget, Cam and everybody went to the All-Star game. I was waiting for a nigga that owe me some money. Nigger pissed me off. It wasn't looked like I was getting no money. I said, I'm going to stay inside the studio and do this record.

End up doing the record. The record was fired. The nigger ended up calling me and to bring my money. I was stupid. the hype drove all away from the studio to motherfucking Philly playing that one song

to the All-Star game and it was at a party, whoever party was and I'd meet Cam and I'm coming to a parking lot and I played the record for them and Cam was like, well, it looked like you got it. And after that it was a jump start

and of course it went through the whole dipset things and all that. But still even now, today, I feel like I'm still learning how to rap today. Because you love it. And you love that shit, you always feel like you can get better. Now, Meno, you came home from jail.

Let me ask you a question. Fee, would he go any for, did you have any jobs in prison? Because, you know, he was the prison masseuse. Oh, my God. This is crazy. Hold, hold, hold on. That's a bad job to have. I didn't think his own stuff.

It's a bad job to ask toes and elbows, yeah. You're lying on me, nigga. He was a master gloop boy in there. What? I got Mena worked in the kitchen. Yeah. Without a doubt. Come on.

That's entry level. See, they'll put you in the kitchen against your will. Yeah. I wasn't the type of nigga that wanted to be there. So, you know, if you, see, I was a nigga that got into a lot of trouble when I was in prison. I went to prison. I was young, so, you know, it was a different error. We was in there playing with razors and tagging on each other and shit like that.

And so I spent a lot of time in the box. I average, what, 10 prisons in 10 years, you know, some of the prisons. Yeah, yeah. A lot of SHU time A lot of box time Almost four years in the box Um So yeah

You're fall in the jail They'll throw you in the prison I'm high You hear Yeah I feel it I'm high That knockout That knockout

That knock you out Not that Paci out That knock you out That shit that knock you're in But to your point Yeah Yeah I worked in the kitchen

Not long though Because Sometimes they'll throw you In a spot And tell you got to be in there for at least 30 days where you could change it. Yep.

So, you know, but that was one of the things that helped me, though, because I remember being in the spot and I just got there and I wanted to go home, right? And it was like,

your shift starts, I had to get up something like maybe like 4.35 in the morning every morning to go wash pots, whatever the fuck it was, right? That was what helped me when I came home

because I felt like if I could do that, And I didn't want to do that And I can do anything When I got home It's nothing Can keep me Because you come home With a different set of energy

Right You come home Like you want to do everything Want to get in everything You know I got a brand new son So it's like You know what I could get up Get him every day

Pick him up at 7.30 in the morning Because when I was up north And crackers were sending me Into that motherfucking mess So I did that Uh huh So you know It made it put things in perspective

For me It made things You know a lot a lot easy for me to deal with that's major man so now you come home how long was it before you signed your deal i signed my first deal after being home 18 19 months yeah because because when you came home it's so crazy i was up at the labels too talking and talking they're like yeah we're interested in the sign of me you know blah blah blah so i was like you know what i mean so you get signed

start dropping So I was I was dropping before that So I come in a game On a mixtape Ended like kind of that Tail end the Clues The case lays

You know he made rest in peace You know That era But it was going into the DVD era So for me The smack DVDs You know All access

I got into that And I think though I don't think think that I was niggas favorite. No, you wasn't. As far as

because you were talking about shit. I know. Let me get to that. I was talking shit. Right? I wasn't a nigga's favorite. But they liked

the way I spoke. You understood it was something. I didn't like the way you speak at all. Damn. He was talking shit to you? He had a problem with me for some reason.

Oh shit. My name in one of his raps. It was coming rats. You did? Which you was fishing. You just. No, no. But you come up because you come out

with a different set of energy. Like, because you're, I'm the guy. I'm the guy. I'm talking. Just the problem with Brooklyn, niggas. You keep mentioning my name.

Okay. And, and, what? Y'all came and tried to. You didn't like me at all. And you were coming to club, 300 deep, screwing. It's your face. Like, look at this, nigga here. That's what I'm going to look at this, nigga.

Yeah. I don't recall this. You don't remember that? You don't recall this. No, I was aggressive. So Jeff came in there to screw with you? Plenty times. We always had...

Screw face. Matches and shit like that. Them niggies followed me before that. Wait, hold on. So this is the first time we thought that you and Jim had a bunch of Mexicans standoff. Yeah. We couldn't stand each other.

A couple times it could have got nasty. We didn't count each other. It was very sticky for a minute with us. But we had mutual niggas though. All the time. So, yeah, they kept it down. Right. But what it was was I didn't understand the game.

And I'm coming home. with the energy like I'm the genuine article I'm really out here doing whatever I was I wasn't particularly talking about him yeah you said my name you said Jimmy getting big in there that was my name

that that's He remembered a lot specifically Why you remember that live? You said it I was hot Why are you remember a lot?

Listen, Jimmy getting bigger now See what the main don't know what to say is I came home on some other ass jail shit. What's the fucking everybody.

I just did 10 years I just stand for I'm gonna run niggas in the world I'm going to all these niggas Jimmy getting bigger and else

Kim getting slimmer now I'm coming in everybody I was like it was like something like that it was something like Kim and Jimmy getting bigger and age oh he's really said

yeah yes I said wait a this shit got to stop this shit got to stop yeah this shit got to stop now this one

But you know how it is, right? Because a lot of homies do that. I know what he was doing. I know what he was doing. When a nigger come home from jail, though, Jim, you know. And niggas still got homies like that. They're to come home right now. We're grown-ass men.

Yeah, these niggas ain't real out here. Fuck all this. He's like, oh, don't, we ain't on that time. Right, no, no, no. This is the era where niggas was on that time. This is an era. To be the toughest nigger in the city was what niggas was what niggas was aiming at.

And for some reason, he was, he was, he was the toughest nigga in the city. Nobody. I feel that I was the toughest nigger I'm a cool, I'm a cool guy I'm a cool, calm collector No, no, he wasn't cool, bro You wasn't cool, you wasn't a cool, nigga This was the issue

This was like, this nigga I'm not cool Moving up, man, you're like this But I'm saying back then You niggas is walking in the clubs And we put one of those over here The Mexican stand those But you said his name

You said you started the shit You started this shit He was chilling I understand that but I'm just saying He's somewhere in mind his business That shit Flex all on end.

Jimmy can be a little. Jimmy getting bigger now. Cam getting swimming now. Hold on. What did he say? Take it back. Oh my God. New York City.

Is you hearing this? All that dumb shit. Flex loving it. And then he told me, did you see me and you like this? Oh, of course. What did you be?

I tell you what, though. When I first come home, right, I come right out to the nightlife. Wasn't a lot of rappers. out like that. You know what I mean? Like, you wouldn't see rapers all the time, but you would see Jim Jones,

you would see him, and this is the difference when you knew niggas was outside and niggas was really active and all that. And, you know, you're going to run into niggas. You're going to see niggas, you know what I'm saying?

So why are all the rappers, why you fuck with the niggas that was outside? Come on, my niggas. You just said, you just said most of the rappers wasn't outside. You could have said any of them niggas, he'd see Jim in the grill. Why would I talk about the nigger

that's not outside? You're like, you outside. out of my outside. Yeah, exactly. It would have been safer. Who'd be talking about? It would have been a lot safer.

He wanted to talk about all the niggas he's going to bump it to. But how did you want to squash that shit, though? In Atlanta, we had a, we had a Mexican standoff. Oh, here we go. They got out of New York, Atlanta. Then we were on a Mexican standoff tour. New York. That's the name of a tour.

We have a tour with him. The Mexican standoff tour. Starred. Jim Jones and James Jones had made me. I was coming up. Lobby, boy. I was on an escalator. Yeah, the Mexican stand on.

On an escalator. You look, he's going up. You're going to get. That's a fact. That's a fact. You like this. Nigger like this. Bird.

Yeah, listen. I was on an escalator going up. Lennox small. Yep. Jim Jones had to have 30 niggas with him. He always got. He was so low.

No, I wasn't solo, but I had, you know, my brother, 80, he was there. It was a couple, maybe like four or five of us. You're solo. Yeah. That's eight niggas to a day. Yeah, basically. And then I'm going up, and I've seen these niggas going down. And they seen me.

And it was just like, all them niggas. And I started counting. And I said, damn, that's a lot of niggas. Right? So I've got. So I got to the top of the escalator, some say turn around. The niggas was coming back up there. You made a peace treaty.

Did you do a peace tree? No, no. No, no. No, it wasn't dead. They came up the top of an escalator and then kind of like walked to the side. And when they walked to the side, they was just like grilling. Everybody was looking. You know what I mean?

And then we had a couple of words. What was the words? Tell us the words. Jim, you know the words. You remember everything. Jim, no. What was the words? It was, it was, it was, it was, I can't remember the words.

Come to the mic, Jim. I know that, uh, 80 and Sheet and, and Melry was there. No, Mellie was dead, but I'm talking about 80 and Sheik. Sheik is my OG. Yeah. Similar to how, him and 80 moved, but they knew each other very tight from being in the street. So at that point, they kind of intervened. They were saying what they were saying.

And it was just, somehow me and him was like, and we walked by ourselves to like, I would think it was Bloomingdale, right? I told my security, you know, somebody said, that's 212. I said, what the fuck did he mean? Yeah, they had a bunch of gangbangers with me. That mean, roll on your ass.

Nah, let's talk about it. That mean, let's talk about it. Let's talk, let's 12. 2 and 2.2, that's Manhattan. You heard? Let's talk about it. Yeah. But we got a chance to, me and him step to the side,

just me and him we just introduced ourselves yeah that's a fact we never told us story hey see that sound like they got to some gangsters shit though like what you're talking about it was it was opportunity for everything to happen

but for the mutual respect of the niggas that we fuck with them two niggas right there yeah at that I don't know what it did but I just know that it prompted us to go to the side And if it was going to be some gangster shit,

it was going to be with just me and him. Right. Talking to Mike, Jim. And when we got to the side, like, Blumen did, like, we told everybody stay outside. It was just me and him. Like, we just going here. And we got inside and we stand in front of each other.

It was a fact. We both introduced ourselves. That's a fact. That's what's up, though, man. That shit could have been in. That shit could have been in New York City. In a club. That's some real shit.

No, but this is Atlantic's Mall. It's in Atlantic. In Atlanta, Atlanta. But I would have lost, though. In the middle of the Wall. I would have won't have lost. I would have lost. We'd have lost.

They had anybody to toss Toss Meno all into the Gucci section. He'd have been a chicken in a wallow in somewhere. For real. No, but it's crazy how you meet some people. You can't fight 30 niggas. I'm the fuck who he is. You're getting punched all in from every angle.

But that's the basis of our relationship. That's why we so tightened down because of how we met. Right. And it's all because Maino was starting shit. Yeah. Yeah, he was doing some shit. He came home from Hill. I think, you know.

They're going to know who I am. Come on. And you had a video for that shit too. No, no, I had no video for that. No, no, no. No, no. No. No.

No. I have no video for that. Don't play with the YouTube. Once you go to YouTube, I don't think I got a video for that one. Maybe it was another one. I set your name on. He hired right.

Maybe he was a other one said your name on. Yeah, a couple of times. He said a couple times. This was an ongoing thing. Like, it was like a second joint he said. I can't remember. I know that was the one that pissed me off. You did?

Jimmy getting bigger in there. Like, enough is enough now. I mean, that was the dream, though. It was something about... It was something about Cam and then I think that I'm bigger than Cam now pertaining to that shit like that. You said, oh, no, you fucking shit. You know, you talk slick from outside the room. You don't really understand what's going on.

And then sometimes when you, you know, all the world tell you that... And then from my perspective, I'm already on fire in the city. This is a different era. You had a nigga just came home? Cool, because I got a bunch of Brooklyn niggas with me. and then you starting to hear his name like all right all right and then he's

I said oh I know what this nigga trying to do oh he's trying to take it to the street he's trying to get he's trying to get the street championship this was going on he's trying to get the street chip no hell no

you know he came right home with some straight jail shit fuck the Mahalo niggas had it too long son he was real son the niggas had it too long son we bring it outside one of the broken

One thing I can say, he came home and made a statement for himself very quick, and I'm not just saying about saying my name. I'm just talking about period. When he got home, he made a hell of a statement. You heard? He got his name across very fast. I mean, this is not, I don't think this is the platform we need to talk about some statements that was made, but I'm just saying from being in New York to come home

and to make a name, Nick himself known. He came home busy. He came home, beat all the DJs up. Y'all going to play my shit. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I hate it.

Nah. They're like, Yo, it's not the way you do business. It's the way I do business. Fuck out of here, nigga, this is what we're doing.

But remember, this is a different era. It's a different side. It ain't on this crazy shit that's going on. So the thing's in the maneuvers you was able to get away with in that time,

it was a little bit different than what you can try to pull off now. All right, let me ask you a question. Who man is that right there? It's flea. That's my camera, man. Oh, he knew you, though? He know me.

Oh, he don't know you, man, no. I know him. Oh, all right, no, because he over there, he's crying. He, like, he'll die and laugh. Like, he really started crying, like, everything I'm saying is true. He's just from the city, and he knows what he was going on. He got tears in his eyes. I was like, how the fuck you do this shit?

No, but I'm saying, man, you know, what you did 20 years ago, what any of us did 20 years ago, what any of us did 20 years. ago when we was young, niggas, man. We did a lot, though, man. Can't be hold accountable for that shit, man. Niggas was young, niggas was aggressive.

Some shit is forever. Niggas was trying to get on, man. You don't know what I mean? Don't think about it. We could talk about things that happened 20 years ago and still be here and be relevant in 2022. And sitting with y'all, because I constantly hear y'all say,

y'all don't invite no old niggas up here unless they really like that. Not the same. We're old niggas who be timeless. Timeless, though. We threw that. I'll be listening to shit like that you did. No hell no.

All three. me and you're older than me. Fuck out of you, you know that ass, nigga. This nigga's crazy. Throwing me under the fucking bus. I'm gonna say this, though. Put you age a dog in. Nah, that's man.

Yo, hey, yo, hey, yo, hey, you know, hey, fuck out of you. You niggas got me high right now. Y'all don't understand. Y'all just talking and smoking on me. Like, y'all don't understand. He buzzed up. Let me just ask you to, let me ask you a question, right?

When you were in your time, because we do a segment called Stories from the Cell. You know what I mean? Stories from the cell You know, and he always tells, you know Something that happened in jail You know what I mean? Like last week he told about When he first got to jail

And it's the stocky as old He gripped him up from the back And kissed him on his back Right Hey yo Listen, listen Listen, listen I've seen that happen

You saw that happen You saw that happen? The fuck is going on right here to do As soon as he got certified When he was 17 I can't. These things are really crazy, bro. You think he's an outside of your fucking mind. He sent him over to the other prison.

He'd get there, they start screaming. No, pussy on the block. No, it wasn't screaming to me, though. Right? So, so, while O'Head walk up on him and just grab him from behind, right? He'd do like this. O'Hare say, don't fight it. He lied.

He says, what? He said, listen, O'Hill said he told he both fight it. Say your energy for making love. Yeah, he lied over me. Why to fall in this shit This nigga, this thing, that's a bad story, man Don't worry about it. Wow, I'm sorry that.

This thing I decided when he's seen the bikes. You know he used to be a part of the Willie boys. He used to be on backing nigga bikes. You used to be on backing nigga bikes. The back of the nike's bikes? He was the part of the Willie boys. He used to be the back of the bikes. He was the back of the bike.

He was the back of the shit. He's like this. The bag of the bigger bikes. Yeah. He was a part of the Willie boys. He all in the back of the bikes. So it was a bunch of the boys. That's why he got excited when you just showed to join the niggins.

It's a bunch of his hole on the back of bikes. He's like saying about the leather big, him. It's a whole crew. He was the president of the Willie Boys. They're just niggins to get on back of bikes, man. So the Willie Boys is nivis is willing on the niggins that's on the back. He get on the back of the bike and do all type of shit kickouts. He got his kickoff.

He's doing all the type of dumb shit. Hold the nigga weights area. He was a kid president of the Willie boys. President of Willie. Oh, man. This is a man. This is bad. But I'm sorry to happen to you, though, bro.

What, ain't nothing happening to me? See, come on, man. That's bullshit. That ain't happened to me. You know what you told you, don't fight it. You can say your energy for making love.

He ain't tell me no shit like that. You ain't baby boy this, nigga? I wouldn't have made it out, niggas. I want to make it to fuck out, man. I wouldn't have been a Maytag in jail. You'd been watching niggas, man.

You'd been watching niggas. It's crazy, man. I don't even know. Why I ain't go? So we ain't going to... You told him on Tuddy when y'all got back up a wheel, that's why you ain't. How the fuck you get out before, too?

These niggas, it's crazy. I'm trying to feel you fuck out of here, man. He's another-ass, man. So, come on, man. Now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, who y'all got on the album? Shit, nigga, we got, um. Shit.

I'm hot, nigga. Thab, Daveyce. Benny the butcher. Blue, he was young blue, but now he's blue. He's not young blue no more. He's just blue. He's just blue right now.

Young and May. Young M.A. Five, yo. Five. We got a lot of, uh, Benny. Y'all got a hit Lada, but. Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. Y'all shooting a video for anything.

Everything. Every fucking video. Everything is king right now. Put that shit out. Absolutely. We, we, we drop with a video. Oh, I see y'all, I see you got the kitchen talk over there, Foxxville. Yep, definitely.

Making moves. Y'all make it moves. Definitely. Definitely. We did that with, uh, shit. See, I'm barking right now. That nigs got me high. Yeah, we did a, we did a deal with.

Foxo, so my shit going on there. We're going to start the new season with them in August, I think. It's getting money. Yeah, yeah. What happened to the worst name? Shout out to my man, ugly Knove, man. Studio. You remember? We didn't quarantine.

Shout to Kno. Shout to Kno. Listen, man, he was I got there. I might owe that man a check, man. There's so many things that happened since he brought me that, sent me that list by the studio when everything was shutting down and trying to figure out how to step out the boxes and

to you to make some money when they shut all the venues and clubs down. And he sent me the list to make the... And you had it turned up. Turned up. Started the quarantine studio for that. I remember your son was sitting there teaching.

He learned in the shit. You sitting there in the booth. He learned how to engineer and shit on the MacBook. I said, oh, this nigga ain't playing. Yeah, I did like seven albums during the pandemic. Which is something, hooty, right?

Pootie. Pootie, right? Yeah. He was doing it. Yeah, he showed me how to do in the beginning. He showed me how to do it. I learned how to engineer on the pandemic.

I bought equipment and learned on engineer. I started my podcast on quarantine. Yeah. You know, a lot of shit come out of despair, you know what I mean? Do it. Sometimes you got to. You're back against the wall, boy. You'll figure some shit out.

Because if that shit never would have came, then the opportunities that I was able to create for myself by the pandemic, I don't think or whatever would have thought about. And them shit is really, I'm glad that I was in, got to get into that space. You know what I mean? And we're still here now and things like that off of a seat. that we started when

we have nothing and shit like that that's what I like about this time that we're in right now this time that we're living right now this is the greatest time

because you can you can have so many different components like I have a podcast still have music have a book have this have a show

have all this other shit going on and not just being one box he could do all the business that he could do drop all the different

albums have different deals like it's just it's for me me, it's probably the best time right now. Yeah, this is definitely dope. I'm back shaking. God bless, you hurt. You got to keep

it moving. Like I said, when you can't stay motivated, stay consistent. And that, with that day, I just stayed on point. We went to know. I got like six hours. I'm about to be on my third album. I dropped this year. Got like three more albums to drop this year, including the Spanish album. Look,

Olegue, Pazza. Tranquilo, man. Jim Jules, I see you over there shaking the building over the empire. Yeah, shouts to Empire, shouts to Ghazi, shouts to Sam, shouts to Teff, shouts to Tina Davis, shouts to Nima,

shout out of the whole team over there. Definitely a beautiful situation. Started maybe 10 years ago with Ghazi was a slim roster over there. He was like he'd do distributions a little bit different than what Kajah do, but it might work for you. Right now, he got that shit on steroids. I mean, he figured out a loop that most of these

major labels didn't and that was how to monetize them streams for the youngsters and create a digital distribution label and now you got a full-winning label and he's probably the biggest label in the game so I tipped my hat to him he's helped me out tremendously we're going on a gold record or I think my record might be goal I was looking at the numbers the other day for the trends record so it's looking pretty good shots at the trends yeah we're up right now shouts the amigos I mean I don't know what's going on but I'm glad I got my buckets my bucket list for one of the things on my bucket is for Phil

and that's getting the whole record with the Migos shout out to them brothers for assisting me on his gold record that's what's up

man well hustlers gonna hustle man so fat hustlers gonna hustle you know that's the bottom line nigga ain't gonna sit around

and wait for nothing to drop out of the sky nothing jumping out of the sky they ain't going jump out of the sky they ain't going to hustle so when quarantine came around you see what niggas did

they just made new new opportunities man I'm a nigga what you all did your turn your pipe his whole shit up. Yeah, we risked our life

about that shit. We turned this whole shit to win. You know, we risked our life because when everybody in the world was like, you can't see nobody and you're going and be doing Zooms, we was face-to-face with niggas.

We were jumping on planes in the middle of the pandemic. Like this, you sure, you ain't got COVID, come on, we out, nigga. I got that shit three times. Turn the cameras on. Action! Yeah, niggas dying and shit.

It was crazy, man. Why you stopped rapping? What do you mean? It ain't work. He was doing shows with a ball. Like if you're doing shows at bars Like you're doing shows at bars at any night You're like

You get booked at bars for 40s and shit All right Let me get $240s and $50 $240s He would he My man, I call my man from Jason Man because I got this picky stuff You're not a man to pick your back in

He'd go in there get his money It's 240s Bring him out to the car It's $50 That nigga was rapping for beer And motherfucking A half a hundred man He's a fucking bum rapper

Joe Bunn's better than this nigga Shout out to Joe man I told you I'm holding it down Joe He's way better than that ass nigg This is crazy. Bum-ass rapper. It's for who.

He claimed the famous, yeah, that's us, and it was three other 50s, five other niggas on the album. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you that. Let me tell you, I love that album, though. Yeah, figures for life. I love that album.

I was his manager from that. I was in jail, but. Y'all can't, y'all can't, y'all can't fuck with the fingers. Right, nigga. Maybe I'm going to have a house in jail. I love that. He's just mad that when we was on tour,

he was up to prison, you know, karaoke night. I'm in. free woman. It's all in me. Oh, man. You got a catty-o killing in your spot? Yes, he did.

He believed in shit, man. This man lying, man. You know all the jobs he had. Come on, man. He was a prison in a lifeguard. He was a lifeguard in the prison showers. He lied, man. What?

Yes. He was the captain of the wrestling team. You was in a joint. Listen, I'm just trying to understand what happened. No, but he was in jail, man. I'm trying to get it, though. He was in jail. He was in jail.

He was lying to that, man. He know that shit don't exist. What? He knows a fucking like. I don't know how Pennsylvania got their shit. You're talking about a million different. You're trying to put the sweat on it, man. Pennsylvania shit different, trust me.

You're on some bullshit. Andy was a pimping jail. What? He had hoax. You know better than that. Dog, niggas. Listen. No, that's wild.

Listen. No, that's the wildest shit. Hey, you know, you know, everybody. You were some bullshit. Listen, listen to them all the dog. You never seen the pimping jail before. You never seen the pimping jail before. He had Ricky Minaj.

I see the nigger with him. Nah, we're ready? Are you ready now? Hey, listen. Let's go. Now this thing is crazy. Ricky Menon. Yeah, Ricky Menon.

It's crazy. Ricky Menade. That's why. This nigga. No, this is crazy, baby. You ever see a pimping jail? Ricky Menonji, Kianze is crazy. The niggins with the niggas, though.

I didn't even go to take it. And right on the niggins. I don't know if he was ready to help. I don't know what he was going on. I seen that in that little circle. I don't know what's going on in that circle over there. C.C. I'm cross with y'all.

One nigga in private. Yo, what the fuck I told you? You got them packs of cigarettes? Huh? He was a fuck small. I told you. I told you. I told you.

He was a bullshit, man. I don't know. Yeah, he was, he got his money in that joint door. Ah. He was some fucked up shit. By it. I didn't even say. By him.

You believe it. By him. Listen, listen, the third one was Lowell Him, not Lil Kim. I'm just saying, I'm just saying it was a little hit. All right. I'm going to say, man. No, it's a little him? Some bullshit, man.

Not a little him? Nah, he was pepper heavy, too. Fuck my name. So while you were using one joint, they're like, one, they join. I was in like five different joints. What's the, like, what are they? Like, like. They penitentiaries.

I was in most of penitentiaries. Yeah, you know, it's the difference. That was that. That was specifically when he was pimping, that was of Dallas to Pink Palace. Fuck out of here, man. You're some bullshit. All right, let me ask you question. Was you on the penitentiary that they called Dallas to Pink Palace?

Yeah, I was there. All right, that's all I'm saying. They called that jail? No, you know, it was a little bit. They called that Dallas to what? The Pink Palace. Why would they call it that, bro? It was a little different shit, man.

No, I'm trying to understand. Talk to me, man. No, what I'm saying is. Understand me, man. It was just some different shit, man. What was different? The pink palace. What was getting married in the yard and shit?

Oh, man, that ain't where I want to be. Yeah, but, you know, we were just doing time. You did a lot of time there? He was just doing time. You did a lot of time there, though? Yes. No, I did about a dime there. You did a dime there?

I did a dime there. You did a dime in one prison? Yeah, one prison. Yeah, they keep, you could do long in Pennsylvania. You could be there for 30 years. What about when you get in trouble, though? I was chilling regular, man. I was in there.

I mean, I was, you know, chilling, man. I wasn't doing that. I wasn't doing too much. You was running around while and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All that, definitely. That's a fact. No, he had 11 jobs, so he stayed busy.

He never got no trouble. Yeah, 11 job there. I just told you. He hosts karaoke night. Fuck out of you. You know karaoke night. But he was up there. He was on the knitting team.

This nigga was part of everything, bro. I'm trying to tell you. This nigga be making shit up, man. He's a liar, man. So none of this is true. Just listen, man. None of this is true. None of this is true.

And behind all that, he was. the chef up north but to ask him that why would you believe it the pink palace is true that's true but none of this other shit is true all right

if you listen to a nigga that said you listen to a nigga that said he was the king of Philly and Will Smith won the Grammy he never won shit this nigga's a bum-ass bootlegs Z league rapper you didn't do shit

you ain't do nothing this nigga listen this nigga was rolling rolling weed and carrying a little Wayne back Major figure no hold on wait wait just for the record nigga

you don't don't say that about major figure No, no, no, no, just for the record. That wasn't your shit. That wasn't your shit. He was the leader, though. You ain't heard me say I was the king of Philly, nigga. You heard Beanie say I was the king, you heard me.

Will Smith ain't said. You heard freeway say I was the king. Will Smith ain't said. You got a Grammy, say I was the king. You heard, um, and every fucking body else, nigga, fuck you talk about. What that mean? Will Smith ain't said, you. And I'm the king of Philly and you're the princess of Philly.

And you're the king of Philly and you're talking about. I got Will Slatby. Shit. I got Will Slapby. I got Will Slappy. going to put Will fucking heads back on that these slapped me. What did you talk about?

I've seen a nigga slap you. You've seen a nigga slap you. Yeah, it's my little cousin. You're my little-ass cousin. So when the major figures, he was coming to see you on. He made a major figure. I'm the fucking, I'm the founder.

I was his first manager. You was the founder? Yeah, I told the Nick, come on. I said, signed as you pig. You was rapping? Yeah, I was hot as a nigga. I was hiding in all these niggas. Really?

He was a blue-leg rap. Spade, though. I like Spade. Spade, the one taught me how to rap. Y'all had a song on their, P-A-all day, the last song on that. I got a story about a Dutchie and Spader, because you know what, they were signed up.

They was on, they was on entertainment. Yeah, yeah. So when we're going on our first tour, we had to take the tour bus to Miami, and the nigger Dutch was like, yo, I'm about to take this, this, this, this, this, this, like, lean, about to take this syrup. Like, what did you talk about?

Like, yo, if I fall asleep and I don't wake up, don't worry about it, I'd be good when we get to Miami. I don't know if I don't wake up. I'm not dead. I'm like, what fuck is this nigga talking about showing off that nigga died and did wake up for the 18 hours we drove to Miami and woke up like, nothing happened. Like, yeah, I'm ready for Miami.

Like, what the fuck? He talked about it was Serp. They didn't have Serb in New York at that time? They never had Serp in New York or something that's brand new within the last 10 years. Yeah, we always have seen. That's what I was talking about that shit. But that was the first person in 97 or 98, in 98. Yeah, that shit is since the early.

We were drinking that shit. And you were smoking wet and a thing. That need you just smoke R&Bs, you know that, right? What the fuck is that? Rocks in the bag. So he, because his whole thing was, he just was like, Yo, what, yo. No, he was wilding, man.

Why, y'all be you playing like this, bro, this is crazy. He was wild. But, you know, the ill thing about Philly and New York is, yeah, we close, but we're totally different. Yeah, because he smoked, he smoked rambos. Rambo's everything. That's weed, dope, wet. He dipped.

That's like a big flurry. That's like a big flurry. Wait, man. It doesn't. Soon as he do it, it'll be no music, it don't be no speakers and nothing around. As soon as he do that, Joan, he hit it, you just hear it. That nigga go, he'd be somebody else. You wouldn't the fuck one of them if he was done.

No, that's my cousin. I used to have to help him get through it, man. You got him through it, though. Just flash the water on he, wake him up, throw him to feed him the milk here, drink this milk, cuz. Get up. Wake him up. Slap him. Come on, cuss, get it together.

You got to go home. All that dumb shit. Wake him up. Yeah, man. That niggas talk funny. Splash him and all that shit, man. He had a wild life. The rap shit didn't

So it fucked him up a little bit That shit had niggas Trying to hold Hold buildings up in my head He used to strip out There come Yo, call your cousin He down with your neck

He'd take his clothes off folded Sit right there On the fire hydrant I'm like yo cousin What the fuck I got to take the towel Getting him back home That nigga was wild

So you really was the first figure You put the name Major figures I started the name Inannie basement My basement And I wound up getting pinch

Right so now When you got locked up So before you got locked up Was all the members together? No, it was just me and him. It was just me and him. Spade was my man. I didn't really rap like that.

Spade was my man. You was the rapper. Yeah, he was playing. He was going to some basketball, some, he got a little punk-ass scholarship and some no-name college around. It's a local joint. No-name college. And what happened was, yeah, it was a local joint.

It didn't really matter. He thought he was going to go to the league. I said, nigg, come on, man. Get this mic. Come on, grab this mic. Right. You're going to be an emcee, nigga. Come on, we're going to the studio.

I took him to the studio. Right. I said, before we do anything, sign this joint. He said, what's this for? I said, we got signed this, like, for all of studio equipment. He signed it was, he don't even know it was publishing and anything. He signed this publishing over his life, and I was managing. So I used to tell him, you don't remember.

I used to tell him, y'all know this joint. He's like, listen, we got to do this little show, this that dirty boys wanted to come through. It's a free join. You're like, all right, bet. He don't even dig. I'm getting all the money. I'm the manager. He don't even dig.

You know how to manage is running on the niggins when they first coming in the game. He's like, bet, because we had, doing it. I got to do him black parties, all that type of shit. And, you know, we just, I went to jail, then Spade came and then. But y'all, we all knew each other. Yeah, we all knew each other. Yeah.

He just got caught, dude. He, and they tripped him. He fell. He told him. They got us. What? He, like, he liked. They got us.

He lied over it, Dave. He tried to get me go down with him. They got us. He lied on me. That's your lying, man. So you took, you took over the. major figures. Yeah, I left it to him.

Go ahead and handle that. No, he went to jail. He was sitting in his cell where they had our TV a video came on TV. He cried like a motherfucker. I don't know when to even take some of the shit or...

I'm in the cell, right? This one, what's the name was on? Cita. You remember the cartoon lady was on? So I'm in the cell coming from New York. I'm watching this shit. That shit came on. Yeah, that's s. I go on a block. I tell... Yo, this is my shit right here. Niggies like, wow.

Get the fuck out of it. You sit down some way a while I'm like, no, this is my shit That's my, you know, this is my group I started this shit, you know what I mean? They work for me. Niggas like, man, get the fuck out of it. It was crazy to be seeing

motherfucking, uh, you remember in the source where they had an up next door Big section, they had the big section. I'm like, oh shit. I'm looking at me down. I'm like, this shit going down, man. You know, it was on, man. You cried. No, I dropped a couple tears a couple times

because it was like, damn. To be in the ghetto and see some shit that you was a part of go and you sitting in the motherfucking can it was it was it was a happiness the fact that I was a part of something that really was that went beyond the hood right see a lot of times we just celebrate shit that's in the hood local shit right you're gonna go local you're gonna go global so now I'm like man I'm touching I'm connected to some shit that's that got outside of not just the neighborhood the city and you know what I mean and we had never seen that like

that yeah I ain't never seen no shit like that from my perspective and I think a lot of times we be so focused on that neighborhood shit that we be stars in the basement that we intimidated by the first floor. Motherfucker be so much. The motherfucker, you know how it is. We all know how it is. We got a homie or a nigger to get him, doing whatever. That nigga, he could do anything in the city,

do anything in the hood. You take that nigga on the plane as soon as he land. That nigga freeze. That nigga freeze like motherfucking water in the freezer. That nigga. He don't know how to get a debentjeet. You know how that shit go? It's easy to perform.

It's easy to be that nigger where you're from. But you, that nigger when you, that nigger, hey, where. Right. And a lot of people can't do that, man. So when you've seen that video I knew I was that nigga But did that inspire you? Yeah

To like to like No that's when I started Sending youth raps And some more songs So you still was rapping back then Yeah I used to rap in the yard But I used to send him

He was a three-time Three-time state champion At the prison talent show Fucking lie I ain't ever got No fucking talent show You know that ass name I used to rap in the yard

Boy had a keyboard And shit I used to spit back then You know what I mean Fuck out there You had the keyboard rapping No somebody else He said he just loves you

I'm trying. He drives shots shit. Here, here. I'm trying to understand. Here's one of nether ass knickers walk up on you.

I hate them. God, Gucci on. You got a jumpsuit on a pussy. You ain't got no Gucci. Shut the fuck up. He's a fucking a hater, man.

He's a hater because his career was short, man. That's cool. You rain on the top was cut like Shirley Leber Kahn. I knew Rabin one for him when he first came home

this time because when he I said, let me hear something. He lost our beating on his chest from him. Get the fuck out of acting do shit like that But I just came home

You're lying-ass, diggins And he'd have to do all The beats He could do balling on his chums And everything But then listen He came home right You know how niggas

be locked up too long Because All of their rap He got a whole joke about You came home Trying to rap No he's lying on Yeah, he's like it on me

That nigga's like it's like it Oh, so right then That d'allie's like You hide Because you're with the bullshit You keep cold shot in this bullshit You're cold shot in this You put the battery in this nigga back

He's out of him He had to live in the bullshit Tell him, keep it real He ain't know what he was going to do At first he came on He lied I said cuss You're lying cuss

You still was rapping You know You know, just on some real shit Like let me hear some shit You know She was up there Right some shit Brace

That dick a lie Everything was about Cheating This thing is lying, Jeff Niggas getting stabbed He's lying That the thing A liar

I don't be about You're lying Who about his shit But every time He did a song He played the different beat On his chest This thing is high

Man, he is high Yes we all have That nigga how Now But listen though I got to I know the whole album with production and anything

on his chest the thing like he was like this he keeps up listen he'd like on table he'd do one song yeah that's called

turn up right right nah bro yo I'm trying yo yo you know I'm telling the guy

out of the shit then he come listen then he said this next song called when I get free right so so

He started hitting that shit When I get free I'm gonna go here When I get free I'm gonna do this When I get free I'm gonna have five bad bitches in Miami When I get free

But the whole song was like 35 minutes straight Or all this shit He was cool What the fuck got to talk 35 minutes straight This thing of lie it'll be bad It's too hot for this shit man

No No for real though For real though He was a bullshit But you gave up your rap shit. All right, just spit four bars of when I get free. I ain't got no rat. Just so they can understand it. I don't know.

Please, because this is going to be the bed. Please. Please just, just four bars in what I get free. You lying on me right now. Just please. You're lying, man. Please do it for the real, some real niggas, man. No, man. He's really awesome. Just four bars. You know, I never beat on my chest. You're lying on me, man.

Oh, you got to be on your chest on the table. You never got to be on your chest on the table. That's a bad of it. Just four bars. You know. You smoked a different. Four bars. He's four bars, man. It's four bars.

He looks, man. Why? I didn't know me. This thing is absurd. I can't do this, bro. Word of the mother. Please. This thing is high.

And you high, man. You got made on high. I'm high. I'm high. This is crazy. I ain't attacking this shit, bro. Listen, man. Lobby boys, man.

Lobby boys. Go tap into it, man. You know what's going on, man. Kitchen Talk podcast, man. On Fox O, I don't know what's going on. This boy right here, he's, listen, man. Nothing's going to get to spit what I'll get free He's got nothing going on

Bullshit rapper Joe Butt's better than this nigga That's cool he was I'm a better podcast than Joe So leave But if you did If you did If you did

If you did used to rap Why you can't Spit full ball Oh that's back the day man You started You start in major figures You still You still not a rap

I think one of the old one Yeah What was your major figure Please No I'm going to hold that against you Back the head Just four bars, guys. Please, guys.

Yeah, you're in the lobby. Please, guys, for the lobby boys. One time. I retire. Put my cleats up. Just four bars. I ain't got no four bars. When I get free, what was the first bar?

When I get free, what? Hit the fuck out of here. I've been in Miami with bad bitches. No, that was the first bar. You lied, man. What was the first bar? Just please, because you don't never be bitching like this. You don't remember.

I was telling him songs, this is when I was in jail. He's a rap. Yeah. I was a rapping when I was on. the streets. Tell us what you get from. It's a jail rat. When I get free, I'm a gentleman.

When I get free, I'm going to jump on the water band. That's running outside in the rain telling people, listen, listen, this is what I said. Hold up. This what I said. When I get free, Maserati with the platinum pipes. That's all I remember. Let's see, he lied. What happens to the beat, though?

He lied. Come on, dog. That sounds like spoken word. As I said, when I get free, Maserati with the platinum pipes, colloquial nigger with the lime green, fluorescent lights. When I get free I forget that I forget the rest of

Yeah they When I get free Yeah it was some shit Like that I was in jail though Yeah When I get free I'm gonna be on the water

bed getting head Yeah Oh you see Yeah he wrote a joint like that too I never Never had a jail right He had a jail right And he was in a yard like this

Never Yes he was He came home He was stocking He was one of the niggas He was one of niggas He was one of niggas He was one of them

That nigg did 11,000 No he was in jumps I'm on my way home You know he had to do a one arm joints He had the sound effects with his join That's how his joint Yo, let me tell you though No, no, no, no

Let me tell you why I was never one of them niggas I already had a never one of them niggas I already had a complex about being one of them niggins Because in my mind it was like I ain't a rapper Right? Because I started rapping in prison I never rapped in my life

Oh I never rapped in my life But you came home I started rapping in prison and jailed in the box 23 hours shoe shoe program 23 hours a day I never thought about

rapping none of that I started doing that just the past time like days in the box because what you're doing in the box you're locked in you ain't doing much right so

when I got out the box I didn't have a confidence to walk around and start rapping for nags I would rap for nigs privately because I didn't look at myself as a rapper I didn't think that I was going to

be like a rapper because I never was a rapper so and this is at the time it wasn't always fashionable to be a rapper so I was like I'm a gangster, I ain't with all that. I'm not one of these nigs

going to be on the yard rapping and looking like the motherfucking entertainment, nigga. That ain't me. They ain't going to be beating on these tables or beat on them

with that. So I would come pull a nigga that I was real cool with and be like, yeah, you know how I'll be rapping. Oh, so you were to say

a while away with your fucking cell. Oh, so basically what he said is I'll pull a nigga. He'll pull a while over the cell beat on your chest, I got this new shit, son. I got this new shit,

So what's the mother, son? This thing was some bullshit, man. Oh, bro. Nah, no. Basically what he's saying is, Waile would have been a producer in jail. My producer.

They'd have been up on the island. Walo would have been my producer. It's crazy. This thing is crazy, man. This is a crazy ending. Like, I don't know where we just went. This thing is crazy right here, John. This is crazy, man.

But when you came home, you had the heart to rap. We had the heart to start with, niggas. Jimmy getting bigger. Damn getting smaller. Money getting taller. Money getting taller. Like, you just came on some old dumb shit. I looked at it on some hustling shit.

Like, nigga, we can do this. I'm selling it to my guys. Like, everybody getting money. So when I get back, you know, we're going to do this. So I was looking at it from a standpoint. Like, we're going to have our own shit. You know, hustle hard. I came up with that in prison.

When I come out, you know, this is what we're doing. We're going to get in the game. I'm a rap. I ain't got to be the best rapper. but we're going to hustle our way there. This is how I was looking at it. So that was my mind state from the door, really. Okay.

We shared, man, lobby boys, man. Make sure you ever get that. Who gets you out. This is out. This is your new brand? Yeah, that's that knockout. It's that knockout. It's that knockout.

It's got anything else you're selling, man? Clothes. I mean, it should be into a lot of things. Fitness, television. Shout out to fitness. Yeah, I'll be seeing you these years. Fit. A nigga too strong now.

Jimmy, where are you trying to take this shit to? Television. You try to be one of them. I see. You squatted $1,500 one day. I was, what the fuck? He's like, this is a joke. I'm like, damn, Jim, what the fuck is he doing?

I'm like, damn, what the fuck is he doing? You know that? You know what? Get up! Huck! I'm like, the fuck is Jim do. He was Instagram. He walked on to the joke.

Hey, I do Jim was serious what day. I've seen him through powder in his hands. Like LeBron James. shit on the bench press. I said, what the fuck? She'll be squatting all the time. This nigga's too strong. This nigga I paled in the gym

on the bench press. Yeah, Jimmy and there, Jim, just being in there for no reason now. Jim, where are you going at with it? The goal is to lift you to be able to lift your woman in the air and eat the box in the head. Come here, stop playing.

Spin around. Like, what are you trying to do? Jim in there. Next thing is going to be in there doing. No, you got to do one, one finger pull-ups. One finger pull-ups. He ain't they on some shit. Yeah, you can't do one finger pull-ups.

You ain't shit. Like, we're trying to quit with this shit, Jimmy. No, man, I'm just trying to stay in shape as we get older, man. It's like the phone of you for them. And then he want to remind all the old niggas day ain't working out. I did back day just in case you did. Just in case you did it for you. That's the fuck.

I didn't do back day. I didn't do shit, but I didn't smoke weed, nigga, but you ain't got to tell me. He all in the garage. Just day. I did leg day. Leg day. Leg day. Biggie ring day.

Right. Like Jimmy, man. You're just, you're living too much, man. God damn, man. Now he got, he doesn't talk, Mado in the company. He came home. He came home with the prison stocky.

You don't one of them niggas. If he on the streets, he ain't really living. He just wake up and do 100 push-ups. Now, he got him in the gym. They don't got a fad to the motherfucking gym. I don't know what type of speeches they're giving out over there.

Yeah, they're having the fucking shit. They're on some more than. What you doing? Get up. You playing. They're using my shit over there. What's up, man Davies, too, right?

Definitely. Everybody, we all in the gym. Fit lit. That's all us together. Shout out of the Nuff set. I got an artist that I work with out here, a Philly kid is dope. Shout out to Nuff Sede.

Shout out to the old niggins. Shout out to all the old fit, man. Shout out to all the old fit niggas. Shout out of the old fit niggins. Real talk. There's a lot of niggas built like back guys he's banging up against a tree, man. A bad boy.

This is crazy, man. Before we get out of here, I just want to get you. I just want to give you your flowers, man. I'm proud to see you brothers like y'all get to the bag. Appreciate what you're doing. Stay in the element, staying as nut as y'all want to and shit like that. It feels good because you all ain't got to change for nothing. So keep doing what you're doing.

There's a lot of people watching. And you're leading by example. I'm not saying that you need to be a role model, but you're doing some fly shit that a lot of kids can follow after them and get to a bag. So keep doing what you. Appreciate you, Jimmy, man. And we appreciate you all for sliding through men's on the couch, a lobby boys, man.

And it's our podcast, Foxo. Show him some love. And it's just like that. Right.