Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 169: FEATURING J PRINCE

Episode Date: June 5, 2022

FEAT J PRINCE & LARRY HOOVER JR.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mworthofg...ame

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Right. Yeah. Bees, mucker, zone down. No feeling. I zone out because my mind's cool.
Starting point is 00:00:20 I'm like fat. I like thinking with my eyes closed. Eyes closed. I can count a million with a blindful. Yeah. Getting out the trenches with my mind on. I'm all. Rest of peace of the kids.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Guys, some niggas, I can't forget. My man in the feds, I'll still be sending them picks. If the niggas ain't gang, we ain't landing them in. Two, two, three's like news. Come on, mother. I've been in my bag. In my bag. Same nigga in the bed is or a bucket.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Bucket. I wear the bucket because it's easier to duck it. We don't do no petty murders, man. That's fuck shit. Cops on my ass. I can't wear my lays twice. M came of $1,500. It was tricked dice.
Starting point is 00:00:58 When the pussy good you know you know you got it. Guys, Bees, you won't point that's my shit, I got him with him. Come on, Bees. Zoned out. I used to fuck the bitches on my mom couch. On my mom couch, we all done that. We all do that. We all done that.
Starting point is 00:01:17 You've been the piece of shit. You only stole it because you needed it. Come on, beans. Don't amount the shit. Detective Popper purchased to beat his dick. I zoned out because my mind cold. I'm like fat. I like thinking with my eyes closed.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I can count a million with a blindfold Getting out the trenches with my mind on I'm fucking Rest of peace of the guys Some niggas I can't forget My man in the fairs I still be sending them picks If the niggas ain't gang
Starting point is 00:01:43 We ain't laying in the minute Nah Talk that shit, Beez Mugger Zone out Song of the week, baby Listen man I used to live with grandma Had the Ouddered
Starting point is 00:01:53 You ready to? That's Bean's Mugger man I'm feeling you ready I can't wait for them to touch down Flop the hood with Nixon powder Had that bitch buzzing Can't stop, won't stop How the Bullets coming
Starting point is 00:02:05 The price high you grab one Is keep about a doubt Let's get it Let's get it Yeah you know what's going on man You know what's going on Million dollars worth a game Right now
Starting point is 00:02:15 We got the legend in here man The legend I'm talking about Jay Prince man Rap a lot of records I'm talking about independently He changed the game man He changed the game man This shit is serious
Starting point is 00:02:26 He held birth a lot of companies, though. Yes, he did. You know what I mean? A lot of people took his blueprint. Listen, yes, listen. A lot of people took his blueprint, but I'm going to say this, though. We're going to start this thing off, right, man. Before we even get started, we won't say this, man.
Starting point is 00:02:41 We're going to give rest and peace to NC from the rip. Yeah, I appreciate that. Rest and peace to NC, right? It's a big one. I'm talking about this is his brother from another. I'm talking about his brother, man. and what would NC say if he was here today and he seen all that you accomplished?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Oh, man, he'd be smiling. He'd be big in the moon with a big smile on his face. And, you know, EnC had a special little twang to his combo. Get the muffler far, man. I mean, he was just a thorough dude, man, so he would be real proud of this movement going on right now. He believed in it before I did. I heard about the story, man, and I know it was painful for you because I lost my brother,
Starting point is 00:03:30 my big brother, and it was like, when I heard about the whole story about him, you know what I mean, and how he, you know, how he expired, it was crazy, man. And it was like how you, you made a move to help him out of a situation, you know. He got out of the car, went on. Did you ever feel bad about that ever to yourself? Like, feel like, damn, you know, they were very lock him up by getting him out of the police. police car and he go across the street get back in it and it happened yeah oh man you know this this is heavy right here uh and this is what's so beautiful about this million dollars worth of game because
Starting point is 00:04:07 ain't nobody ever asked me about the homie in c and he lived right here you know what i mean but that was a hell of a night man at night you know when he you know got into it with a few of the guys they clashed and one of the guys homies that killed him came to me he said hey man you're the only one can stop this man he said won't you come stop this man and he said somebody going to hit
Starting point is 00:04:31 somebody going to miss you know what I mean and I was with executives from A&M records at the time you know entertained an Rahim situation and I put everything aside
Starting point is 00:04:44 and I went outside and I got E&C out the back of a police car I let the sergeant I say, man, man. I say, give him a shot, man. He's going to go home, man. I said, I'm going to put him in my car.
Starting point is 00:04:58 He's going home. So I talked to the officer in and let me get him out the back of the police car. Put him in the van. And the last thing he said to me was, man, I'm going home. So I sit there and I'm observing him leave out the parking lot and I watch one of the other homies cut him off. and point to him that them dudes he got into it with was across the street. So I'm not knowing what the conversation was about,
Starting point is 00:05:28 but I hear rubber burn, and I see, you know, this is about 100 yards. I'm looking at it, you know, in slow motion. I see him go fly over there and he hit the dude, you know, the dude had a pump shotgun standing out there. He drew down on the dude that told him they was over there because he made it there first. so NC seen draw down on him
Starting point is 00:05:50 so NC hit the dude with the band boom I guess he thought he you know what I mean that hurt him bad enough to the extent where he was getting ready to get out the truck and the homie came back up boom
Starting point is 00:06:04 hit him inside of the faith boom slugs so by that time I take off running over that to the car because I had my piece I'm like okay I know what time it is now dude them sped off
Starting point is 00:06:18 when I got there and looked at the homie half of his shit, you know, gone. You know, I grabbed him. I say, man, you fucked up. I say, can you hear me? Squeeze his hand, right? I said, you can hit me, squeeze my hand. So he squeezed
Starting point is 00:06:35 my hand, he grabbed the side thing in the van to pull himself up and went into a combustion on me. You know what I mean? And we went call 911, but that's, I lost a homie that night. So, yeah, I rousled with getting the homie out the back of a car, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:56 for his head to get blowed off a rouser for a minute a way. I know, I know you razzled because it's a painful thing. Yeah. After that, you, you know, in, you know, I always, I always thought about when I, when I thought about Texas, when I thought about music, when I thought about CEOs, I always thought about you, and I always thought about Tony Draper, because it was something that was in my mind. You guys in this music business,
Starting point is 00:07:22 y'all was going number one on charts and all this stuff, and it was like, hold up. Obviously of y'all, you had dudes like Shug, you had dudes like Diddy, but these dudes had Clyde Davis and Jimmy Iveen. Y'all had nothing. So y'all had to pay for marketing,
Starting point is 00:07:39 and it was like, how was y'all able to do that? Because y'all didn't have the guys behind y'all with all more money. You know, you didn't have Arrister, You didn't have Interscope behind you. Y'all had just, I'm doing this out of pocket. Yeah, yeah. No, it was one of them situations where you didn't have a choice, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:54 Because back when I kicked off, the West Coast record labels, the East Coast record labels didn't believe in the South. In the South period. They criticized our slain. You know, they felt like we was too hard. We was talking about shit that was too rough. They low-key thought y'all was slower, too. Yeah. A lot of that shit went on.
Starting point is 00:08:15 So, you know, it wasn't a choice. You know, it wasn't like maybe we wouldn't embrace, you know, the opportunity if they had gave it to us. But at that point, I'm like, you know, fuck them. They won't help them. I'm going to do this thing myself. You know what I mean? And I had to learn the game through trial and error,
Starting point is 00:08:35 and I passed it on to Draper the Master P. Cash money, you know, the same blueprint. Because that's, in my mind frame, I wanted to create a major with real niggas around the world. You know what I mean? I was all the way against the majors at that point. I'm like, we're going to be on some street shit and create majors in every state.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Right. So all the intros are the ghetto boys' album. If you go back and witness, that's what I was preaching. The seeds that I was planting. Right. You know what I mean? It's the new dope game. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:07 That was my mindset. Before we go any further this episode of me and I was River Game, it's brought to you by... New Absin. Now, um, life ain't going your way. Shout a new Amsterdam vodka. Caught your bitch cheating the day. Shout a new Amsterdam vodka.
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Starting point is 00:10:34 Because when you look at all the independent record labels from back then that really won, they was all South labels. Right? It wasn't a lot of East Coast. It wasn't black guys that had independent record labels around this country, especially not on the East Coast. Yeah, I mean, the truth of the matter is they had production deals. You know what I mean? All of them had production deals.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And we came with that ownership, shit. We planted that seed, you know what I mean? Because in my mind, you know, I'm thinking about generational wealth. Even back then, I'm thinking about my kids, my grandkids. So I understood that in order for them to keep eating, I had to own my master's. You know what I mean? I learned a lot of shit from practice in the streets. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:25 We understand that. You know what I mean? I was able and fortunate enough to have some practice before, you know, entering different levels of the corporate game. And with having a practice that I had, you know, the money that was offered to me didn't. appear as lucrative as it may be the most. Right. I understand. So at the end of the day, Youngings,
Starting point is 00:11:53 because sometimes game go over your head, you know what I'm saying, what the OG was saying in a broken down form so y'all could understand was he was already a fucking boss. So he didn't have a workers' mentality. Whereas though some people come into the game, they'd be workers.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So you got to figure out what lane you in and was going to work out best for you. You know, if you're a boss and you take a worker's mentality, then you already lost. He was already thinking on a higher playing field. So, you know what I'm saying, when you're already out here and you are already, because anything that any y'all do illegal, what we always try to tell you, if you could hustle and you can operate on the illegal, the legal shit ain't nothing. Yeah. The legal, once you really get and understand, it's just like anything else.
Starting point is 00:12:43 you get in you understand how work and how things go and how things operate if you got hustle you got hustle yeah it's just in you if a motherfucker was lazy as a kid a lot of times they lazy as an adult because you see the hustling kids early whether it's oh they got to get up go to basketball training and they want to do yes they want to do that they want to do oh you just want to sit in the house to play the games all that okay nick i understand what type of shit you on so if you got hustle you got hustle j had hustle in him and he had hustle and he had vision, he understood what he was trying to go at with it. So, you know, I just wanted to break that down for the youth.
Starting point is 00:13:19 You know, that was, that was well interpreted. You know what I mean? Absolutely. It was well interpreted. And just to follow up on that note, you know, because street niggas, we're some of the most brilliant niggers in the world. Right. You know what I mean? Those that was successful in the street and are successful in the street, but it's so important to diversify your portfolio. to corporate America. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Because your hustle that you have, you know, they can't even compete. You know what I mean? With all the three letter degrees and all that shit, they still can't compete. Right. To the real.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Right. You know what I mean? So it's important to diversify to corporate America and don't allow fear to keep you in bondage from doing that because fear,
Starting point is 00:14:05 it'll paralyze you. Right. It had me in bundage a long time. So put that fear aside and cross your game over like you cross niggas over on that basketball court and do your thing. And I would say this
Starting point is 00:14:18 because you're saying this about because this has just had me like damn, he was doing his independent thing, he's coming up, he learned in the game, he's moving around. You had a, you bought run DMC some Rolexes. Like, what made you do that? Right. This back, you put them some
Starting point is 00:14:35 Rolex, this back in the game. And I'm keep it all we real. The Down South Knicks got a thing with the Rolex. Shout out to Tony Drake because he gave me my first president. You know what I mean? Fresh office, motherfucking rinsnickers on the label ain't like that either, but we ain't going to talk about that. My man, Drake. You gave a red demc, some Rolexes, right?
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yeah, my man, Drake. Me and Jam Master Jay, I connected with Jam Master Jay before Run and others. You know what I mean? And Jam Master Jay had a street edge to himself where we recognized one another and I'm trying to get in the game at the time. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:07 I'm trying to get in the game. And it was just a welcome gift to age town. you know what I mean showing love I think it probably was like 24 yeah I got y'all niggas through Ron
Starting point is 00:15:17 the Rose Ross Keys say man you ain't y'all drive in New York like this yeah ride the roads right
Starting point is 00:15:25 y'all in them yellow cab so there like one thing I can say though you're the diversity king when you're saying diversify
Starting point is 00:15:34 because you you're rapping I can imagine how many different things you got your hands in but I know the body
Starting point is 00:15:41 boxing shit, you've been doing that for a minute. How did you get into the boxing? You just woke up one day and said, fuck it, I'm about to invest in some boxers. How did it happen? You know, boxing was always my first love. I was watching Don King, Muhammad Ali then when I was a kid. King, you know, with the half, I just always loved King's swagger. It was somebody swagger. He was like what the old man would call a rebellious name. He was like the pimple box. Yeah, you know, and I can tell from his swagger. So, and I love the sport of boxing.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I feel like it's the most exciting sport in the world. So after the feds turned up on me, like, real tough in 99, you know, 99, 2000, where, you know, they was trying to kill me. Damn. Talk about that late on me. They put a hitman on me, right? So I decided to diversify my portfolio because, you know, every day I got up, they was harassing me. They was following my movement.
Starting point is 00:16:48 So, you know, I prayed one night, man. I prayed one night. And I asked the Lord to bless me with a champion. And I arranged a meeting, you know, because my target was Mike Tyson. I want to start at the top. My target was Mike Tyson. And Mike embraced the meeting right out here in Vegas. And I came out here to meet Tyson in the gym, and I was excited because I had been,
Starting point is 00:17:14 went to a few his fights, but I had never seen him raw and uncut in the spawning. So I walked in on the sparring session when he was chunking that leather. And you know what I mean? I was, I was a kid in the candy store. Sounds like 22, it sounds like a 38 was going off. Yeah, bop, bop! So, you know, a long story short, you know, Floyd Mayweather came in the gym around the same time. and he came up to me on two occasions where I was, you know, watching Tyson.
Starting point is 00:17:44 But my focus was on Tyson. I didn't really know who Floyd was. So, bam, afterwards, me and Tyson, you know, went to the house and had a meeting. He got his wife at the time on the phone and introduced us. And, you know, I'm thinking I'm on the team. He tells his wife, I want Jay Prince on the team, so I'm happy. I came here and accomplished, you know, being on the team with Mike Tyson. and go back to the hotel at night and sleep good,
Starting point is 00:18:13 wake up the next day and try to get with Tyson, and the phones wasn't working. Damn. Mike cut the phones off on you? I don't think it was Mike. I think it may have been a little high up. Oh, okay. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:27 He got this manager by the name of Shelly Finkel, who was competition at the time. Oh, okay. I think he heard I was in town. But it turned out to be a good story because Florida gave me his number and I asked the home I said what was this dude right here so this is the 130 pound champion
Starting point is 00:18:45 so bam red light go off in my head I'm like I pray for a champion like I'm a praying man everything I ever wanted to attain and accomplish in life I exercise a gift of prayer it's free right so bam I believe that
Starting point is 00:19:02 he's the answer to my prayer and within two weeks me in Florida had done a and I manage him for the next four years. True story. Damn. This episode to me and I was where the game is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. One thing about ZipRecruiter, matter of fact, right now,
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Starting point is 00:20:19 I always, you know, but I never really heard you talk. I never, it was like, he don't say nothing. He just come through and chill. Like every time they see you a magazine, whatever. And around that time, first of all, like June, I appreciate you even being here, brother. You know what I mean? And I hope for me. being in that belly of abuse for years.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I hope that everything happened right for your father because I believe that he could be much value to the community and educating people about the different routes we don't need to take and what we could be doing out here. Not just your father, there's a lot of our seniors that's in these walls that could be of great value, you know, to our community. If they get out, because they got so much education and so much gain of life, of what not to do
Starting point is 00:21:06 in order to be able to operate out here successfully, you know what I mean? But in 1996, right? I was listening to something on Resurrection album, right? I just been wrestling with these hunkies because they ain't worried about me they got me
Starting point is 00:21:19 but they worried about the kids because the youth is more feisty now than it was and the cold game is what they're doing now they didn't put the prisons on the open market you know it's on the stock exchange big companies own prisons now they all got stock in prison MasterCud, Smith Bonnie
Starting point is 00:21:35 These aren't get so cold out this way. They won't see me do nothing. They won't even let my family make no money. Even with the ghetto prison closing. They only let my son, my wife, nobody do nothing. They mess with the clothing company. They've been going to the manufacturers. Their orders ain't getting there on time no more since the government got involved with this case.
Starting point is 00:21:53 They've been going to the stores, retailers, and tell them that they can't sell them. They've been stopping the kids here in Chicago. You know, real ghetto boys, where a ghetto prison here? We have to look in the inside of the ghetto boys' albums cover and order from now. We're going to order from now, you know, because we want to support that. You know, it's political to see the mayor is scared of me. Yeah. The mayor is scared of me because they want to lay you down and put a dick in your ass.
Starting point is 00:22:19 If you move your ass, they consider you rebellious, you know. I'm moving my butt so they consider me a rebellious, niggas. See, I'm telling these young boys to put them guns down and took up that ballot, you know. Right. You know, you can kill the men as niggas you want as long as you don't go to the polls. Right. But if you go to the pole, they're going to they snatch you off the streets, you know. If we don't do nothing about this stuff in a minute, shit, we had to put a no return.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Now I'm saying is to see this. How did you, Larry Kineck? Chicago was the first city to embrace rap a lot. You know what I mean? Before Houston did. Damn. The South, before, you know what I mean? They could relate to our lives.
Starting point is 00:23:02 movement, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, the whole Midwest. I'm forever indebted to the Midwest because they embraced me before my own. You know what I mean? So therefore, with that being said, Larry Hoover presence was felt in Chicago. You know what I mean? They were bringing the ghetto boys to concert as they performed. you know what I mean it was and people showed up so I was given the invitation to go and meet with Larry Hooper and it was honor to go and meet with him because I had heard about him and up on my arrival
Starting point is 00:23:46 you know I witnessed a man in corduroy pants and alligator shoes and and what kind of sweater he had on. Cooge's sweater, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I'm a Texas nigga, right? So I'm used to orange suits and shit like that, and, you know, the man was sharper than me. So I'm like, wow. But what was even more impressive
Starting point is 00:24:13 about that meeting was his mind. You know what I mean? The walk that he and I took on that yard was life-changing because of the words he said to me about lifting his people and the change that he wanted to bring about with the growth and developed movement was life-changing.
Starting point is 00:24:36 You know what I mean? I felt the brother's spirit almost like it was from up above. And I wanted everybody else to hear at that point. I didn't want to keep that to myself. And that was over 30 years ago. Yeah. I didn't want to keep it to myself.
Starting point is 00:24:51 So like against all odds, everybody you can think of saying if you put this out, this going to happen, threats, warning from all the three letters of people. You know, we put it out, and it was life-changing, man, and that was our connection. It's the only time I ever met him, but it was a life-lasting moment that exists to this day. Right. But I think we're so extraordinary about this, like I just said, a lot of people just getting introduced to, you know, lie.
Starting point is 00:25:26 They're just getting introduced. And you're talking about a person that had that mindset of changing and uplifting people 30-something years ago when you first was introduced to him. So just imagine where his mind is at now and the possibilities of what type of value he could bring to the community out here. Yeah. And I'm going to let Lil Larry, Jr., he here with us speak on that. But I'm going to just say that the mind change that this brings. brother can bring, you know, beginning with Chicago, because I actually believe the killing and different things that's going on in Chicago, if he was to be able to touch ground in the
Starting point is 00:26:07 community, you know, it would, it would be like, and I hate to compare it to this, but it'd be like, let's say Moses, came back with the Ten Commandments. You know what I mean? It was meaningful. But, you know, Larry, I know you have a lot to say about that, bro. you say anything, Larry, I can only imagine the type of programers that he could put in the community for these babies and these young cats. The programming, it would be unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I mean, well, really, that's the reason why they took him away because them programs were being put in place. Move the mic to you. Yeah, that's why they silenced them and took them away. These type of programs was being put in place back then. You know, he was on,
Starting point is 00:26:53 like y'all said earlier on, he was trying to, he's an example of what you don't want to do. And he was putting that message out there so he could save lives because he started seeing people that was my age when I was a youngster coming in there. And it was just
Starting point is 00:27:09 some other things that he's seeing like on the news where he's seen, he's seen the police going into the projects and they was going through just raiding everybody apartments. And he was like they treating them like they in here with us. So we came up with the concept of
Starting point is 00:27:24 ghetto prisoner back then. But he knew he had some influence over the people, so he's like, I'm going to do what I can to try to use my influence to try to change this, and that's when he started talking about voting and putting people in position so they can get laws changed and what have you, so these type of activities wouldn't happen. He read the book, The Boss, by Med Daily, which was not the last Med Daily, but his actual father. And he came from the streets. And he took his influence. and his power from the streets and got into politics. And they ran Chicago with an iron fist for years and years.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So that was his influence on what he wanted to do. He seemed that he had the people. That's when he started talking about we need to get in the politics and vote so we can make changes out here. If we got the numbers, we are forced to be reckoned with. He wasn't interested in just his own individual group of people that looked up to him. he had respect from everybody in the city, all the different organizations because he knew how to treat a man with respect.
Starting point is 00:28:31 He told me when a guy were coming to the jails, he would introduce himself to him, regardless of who he was, what organization. So they can try to build some type of relationship right there so they wouldn't meet each other when they was at odds. So he just knew how to show respect and how to bring people together. And he knew that it was always power in the numbers. And he wanted to use the power and the numbers to make changes for our community. Because he, you know, like you said, he made all the mistakes
Starting point is 00:29:00 and had to live through everything that these youngsters are going through and trying to do. Like these stories that we hear, like he don't go into detail, but he know about a lot of this stuff already. A lot of it is different because of the, you know, the amount of respect and the way that everybody's involved in everybody's business, is nothing in the street is just whoever there is there and they're in it. You know what I mean? He don't understand the way
Starting point is 00:29:26 you know the way the world is moving right now but he definitely understand what's going to happen if y'all don't you know we're going to make a change with the way we're living out here so you know he's just all about making the mindset change he already had that mindset that'll take you to jail
Starting point is 00:29:43 he knew what it'd take to do that so he was trying to get people the mindset to not go to jail and make an opportunity for ourselves. Let me ask you this how was it for you growing up without your father I mean it man it was it was just my life it was just something I grew accustomed to
Starting point is 00:30:05 you know as a kid when it came in a situation where people's fathers was involved I just didn't mention my father you know I was you know it was just part of my life my father just wasn't there I would go visit my father every other weekend or what have you I have to thank my mother and my grandmother and all of them for making sure that I want to see my father constantly
Starting point is 00:30:26 because there's a lot of people whose kids, if the mother and the father don't have a bond, I mean, it may not be a bond with the father's side of the family, so that whole bond with the child is broken. So I just had to be happy that my family gone, did everything that was necessary, so we can have that bond, and that could actually be my father. So I had a great father. I think he treated me better than other fathers would have. because he knew that he wasn't at home with me, so we didn't have conflict. It was keeping everything a certain type of way.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And he didn't have, and, you know, anytime he called, you know, he wasn't out here. You know, a lot of times as fathers, they get caught up in the street shit, the partying, the women, the cars, the, then you look up, your kid 17. Yeah, yeah, we don't know what that could be. I feel like he don't know you, you know what I mean. you've seen your father every other week, you know what I mean? I'm pretty sure he had no dumb shit to do, so I'm pretty sure he was giving you all a game and knowledge.
Starting point is 00:31:30 You just couldn't see him in a physical on the streets. Yeah, when he was in the state in Illinois, I got to see him a lot. But they got him out of there. Yeah, he was first he was an hour away, then he wound up being like six hours away, then he was three hours away. But all those places we could get to easy. It's when they took him to Colorado when it's the, Big deal to try to get down there.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yeah. Oh, yeah, I just wanted to go back and pet myself on the back because of this whole, um, uh, J. Prince Gettle Boy thing. When we was doing shows, I was picking the talent at the time. Oh, okay. And I make the ghetto boy, so I actually put all this together. Oh, okay. Because I was the young one listening to the music.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Yeah, absolutely. I didn't know that, but that's, I salute. See, he was the, he was the first A&R. He was the N. He was, yeah, you can see. Prince, skip. over that, you know me. Now, how did the concert come, how did that come about? You're talking about the, um, with the Drake and Kanye? Yeah, how did that come about?
Starting point is 00:32:32 Oh, man, we, man, so he seemed that we had a, just talking to him, knew that we had a relationship with, um, Kanye and then with Drake through Jay. And he seemed that we had this relationship, but with little stuff that he got to see, he's seen that, um, that them guys was at odds. and he would hear about other artists and stuff. You know what I mean, killing each other and going to jail over back and forth nonsense. So just saying, ain't it's something y'all could do to try to bring them together
Starting point is 00:33:05 because they're like on the, they're the biggest artists in the world and they're into it. Ain't no need for them or done of their guys to wind up on, you know what I mean, somebody dying over whatever little beef they got. Usually it's not the main artists in them situations, the guys around them is trying to protect them.
Starting point is 00:33:22 So it was like, you know, you can't try to bring them together to try to calm that down. And we put our efforts there and brought them together, hoping that it would be a blueprint for the other artists to try to follow the look and see, like, if these guys can bring it together and put their differences aside and make money and enjoy life,
Starting point is 00:33:46 maybe some other people will follow suit because there's way too many of these guys out here. you know, feeling like they living a gangster life when they should be living a millionaire life and they're dying and losing everything when they just get to that position. They should be enjoying and bringing other people up instead of going to jail and, you know what I mean,
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Starting point is 00:35:36 Listen, man, we got Mr. Phenomenal, he's ready to give up some phenomenal game. I'm talking about, listen, this Metro 2 game, y'all not ready for it, and I'm talking about the credit. Listen, man, I'm not even... Next level, shit. This stuff is next level. When you put your paperwork in, Ain't nobody going to argue with you.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Ain't nobody going to debate. They're going to take that. Get it right on. That's the phenomenal. Got some phenomenal game. Now, let's get to this, man. But what did it all begin at? Where did it all begin?
Starting point is 00:36:00 Hey, listen, you know, I decided that I got to help the people. That's where it began. I'll say, you know, I can't put myself in a position where I'm winning and I ain't bringing people with me. I've been living our credit forever. And the reason why I've been able to leave our credit is because I understand. Our biggest expense in life, bro, is what we do not know. Yes. That's our biggest expense.
Starting point is 00:36:19 So once I get educated and I understood, like, how credit works and advantages that it was giving me, I'm like, yo, no, I got to get people to gain. No, you're phenomenal now, but who sprinkled that phenomenal game on you before you was phenomenal? You know what? I ain't going to, I'm really like, I'm self-taught, but what I will do is I'm going to get somebody credit. I tapped there with my boy, Nehomani Davis. Shout out to Neo, my man. Yeah, shout out to Neo, yo, like. The Matrix.
Starting point is 00:36:41 He was like, yo, like, bro, it's time for you to turn up. And so, like, I was doing things, you know what I'm saying? my way but when I tapped in with Neil he's like yo it's you got it what you got your hands on take it to another stratus right I'm like yo let's go let's do it let's do it and it just start happening it just started happening it just started happening but but you know a lot of people hear about oh yeah I can remove the credit you got a lot of people we could do this we can do ain't nobody up on that metro two game nobody break the game now nobody now so this is what we're going to do y'all say this million dollars worth of a game right yes we're going to get them
Starting point is 00:37:11 a million dollars worth a game we're fun to free the people the streets need what I'm from to talk about. So this is what I need. This is what I need everybody who's watching this dude. I need you. Now I don't need to take notes, but I need you to take action. Okay. Because most people, they get information and they hear it and they be like, all right,
Starting point is 00:37:26 that was cool. And they were like, yo, he dropped some crazy million dollars worth of a game, but they'll do nothing with it. And so they stuck in the same poverty type of situation, right? So I'm going to break it down. All right. So y'all know that when him 500 came when he went crazy with the game, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:39 What he was breaking down was called facture disputing. What I'm talking about is Metro 2 Compliance. Totally different beats, totally different animal. But if you take what him gave you and you take what I gave and you mix them things up, even though they're two totally different animals, if you rocking his game and you rocking my game, you can't lose. Okay. But here go the difference, though.
Starting point is 00:37:57 So with factual disputing, we're talking about what him 500 explained, factual dispute is we're talking about the accuracy of accounts that's been reported. We talk about the factual nature. And we're talking about, you know, yo, do I really own this account, right? I'm talking about I may and may not own this account. But with Metro 2 compliance, I'm talking about this account don't even have the ability to be. reported based upon compliance standard on my on my name on my name you know what I mean so this is what people have to understand there there are laws and rules and regulations put in place for me for for wallow for gill for everybody in here and based upon the standards that was put in
Starting point is 00:38:32 place in the laws and the rules and regulations and we don't if we don't know these things that we're not educated how we're going really like learn like exactly how we're going to take advantage if we don't know what's going on right so let me let me get example how this works You got the Fair Credit Reporting Act, right? Go ahead. That says, based upon my credit, everything has to be reported fairly. That means that, you know, everything is fair, right? That's a fair credit report act.
Starting point is 00:38:56 That protects consumers. Then you got the Equal Credit Opportunity Act. That means that me, Gil, Wallow, we all have to have the equal opportunity at credit. You can't just go get a bins and I don't have the same opportunity as you in regards to credit, right? Then you got something that was put in place in 1997 called Metro 2 Compliance, right? that was put in place by the consumer data industry, right? So they said, yo, we need to put something in place that's going to protect the consumers that says, can these items even be reported?
Starting point is 00:39:27 So now if we understand and know that there are things in place that protects us from items to even be reported, why are we taking advantage of that? So a lot of times this shit on people jacket, then they need to be reported. You see what I'm saying? But we don't know we're ignorant, so we just, oh, I got to figure out with them, I got to pay this beer, and then they got the collection agency coming, all the type of stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the game.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Like, we got to understand that we got to know the game so we can play the game. So I'm talking about, I'm putting people in a position where, yo, I'm going to give you the game. All you got to do is lock into the game, run the play, and you're going to be good. Because, like, they can't fight this. I'm talking about Metro 2 compliance. If the credit bureaus and its agency put this standard in place and we use the same standard against them that they put in place, how they're going to fight us? How they're going to fight us? How?
Starting point is 00:40:11 They can't. It's not possible. It ain't, they're going to be like, yo, let's put our hands up. We know, we know what kind of information, what kind of letter you sent to here, right? We already know. So we're just going to just, it's a stick up. It's game over. But see, one thing, one thing that make you so special, but I love, you know, our people always take care of our people.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Mr. Phenomenal came in and say, listen, everybody, all you got to, everybody getting a free ebook of how to use this Metro 2nd, right? Yes, sir. And all you got to do is text game. The 74-1-21. That's it. 7-4-1-2-1. You text game. You see it right here on the screen.
Starting point is 00:40:42 and I'm telling you, he's going to give you a free e-book. I don't care of $100,000, $200,000. I don't care. Y'all all getting a free e-book. When you text, gain, the 7-4-121. Now, what's inside of this e-book? How do I begin? I'm in Omaha, Hunter Brassey.
Starting point is 00:40:57 My name, Billy, and my credit is jacked up. And I, you know, I go get the e-book. And what do I learn? All right, so look, once you get the e-book, once you text the number, you get the e-book. Again, take advantage of the e-book. Inside the e-book, you're literally going to get access to a system. Now, watch you're just to call. part right here. You're going to get access to a system that once you upload your credit
Starting point is 00:41:16 report, Mr. Whoever, from wherever you at, you upload your credit report into this system. The system is going to identify all the negative items for you. You ain't got to do no work. Then all you got to do is tell the system to attack. Now dispute because we're attacking based upon using a same Metro 2 compliant standard. Attack these items based upon Metro 2 compliant standard that they can't even be reported to my consumer credit profile. So once they literally do that. The system is going to automatically generate a letter for them. So you know how, again, with fact your dispute, people put
Starting point is 00:41:46 to my 609, 611, right? We ain't got to worry about that. The system is automatically going to put together a compliance-based dispute letter. It's going to put together the letter for you. And look, you even got to mail it off. Inside of the system, you pay a little extra, hit that little button. They're going going to literally mail it off for you, too. They're going to send
Starting point is 00:42:02 all these places. They're going to send it to wherever the letter is supposed to go. If it's going to go to Experian, Equifax, TransUnion, the other fourth major player, Inovist, It ascended to whatever, core logic. Talk about Inovus, because a lot of people don't know about that. Yeah, yeah. So that's the fourth major player in the game right now.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So they're a big dog. They just as important as, you know, experience trans, Uniquefax. They are on the level of them. They just haven't came up yet. It's kind of like nobody really know about Inovus. Nobody really know about Metro 2, right? So essentially, they are a big dog too. They're in the game.
Starting point is 00:42:32 That's a secondary bureau, just like the core logics, just like the sage strings, just like the Lexis Nix. They are housing information that, you know, it's on our, consumer credit profile. So when we're going and we think that everything cool, we try to go get a car in our name, we try to go get a house, we try to go get all this stuff, but we can't get it because we may not sit on our profile, but the secondary bills got it. So when you go, you try to get something, they're going to validate and verify whether it's really supposed to be there or not or what's really going on in your profile. You're like, dang, how you stick
Starting point is 00:43:00 me up? How are you going to say, I can't get an apartment? How are you going to say I can't get a car? But you don't even really know because the secondary bureaus is housed in that. But guess what? We don't even really got to worry about the secondary bureaus is with Metro, too. we're going straight at their head because they put together the compliance standard so I'm like yo I'm using the standard
Starting point is 00:43:14 right against you nobody know about it wallow nobody know they ain't using it nobody know you got 99% of people in America that's got a credit repair
Starting point is 00:43:23 organization they're doing facts you dispute so with me bro like I said I'm here for the people how long do facts you will dispute and take
Starting point is 00:43:28 forever months on top of months I know that shit it can take a minute because when you go to to these companies and you I want to get my credit
Starting point is 00:43:37 fix because I didn't go to a big go on the streets. I actually went to a company. Yeah. That shit took about five months, man. Yeah. That shit took about, it was some years ago, though, but that shit took it. How much you picked them?
Starting point is 00:43:49 Six hundred. Yeah. So, with this Metro, yeah. Two good plans. How long do that take? You don't take that long. Probably about 70 days. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yeah. We some out putting somebody in position where they got jacked up credit. They could potentially have a 700 in about 70 days, which puts them in a position to now. Seven hundred and seventy days. You see what I'm saying? Seven hundred and seventy days. So now that puts in a position where they can go get a hundred thousand out of line of credit in a hundred days.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yep. You know what I'm saying? Again, once you know the game, you can play the game, then you can address the game however you need to. And you can play it the right way. Like you could live, like I'm teaching people how to live off credit, yo. Right. No matter what game you in, you ain't playing the right, you don't know the rules.
Starting point is 00:44:29 It don't make no sense that you're like, I could drive a hundred thousand out of car, you could drive a hundred thousand dollar a car. You could, like, why Jane Doe from Cincinnati can't? Her credit jacked up. She can't get a car. She can't get an apartment She can't have homeownership She jacked up because of credit
Starting point is 00:44:44 She did when she was young The first time She got a credit card in the middle She just start going crazy And all she got to do is tap in With your motherfucking ebook Bro Get the ebook
Starting point is 00:44:51 For free Right now For free For free Like people literally DIMing me every day Like yo You changed my life
Starting point is 00:44:56 You helped And I mean they're paying for that joint And I'm giving it to them for free I'm so people paying for the ebook How much do the ebook How much do you the ebook costs normally? Normally about 150 And sometimes I run specials
Starting point is 00:45:06 For like 47 So you get about hundreds of thousands of dollars because if a hundred thousand people you're giving out a million dollars a million dollars worth a game you're giving out a million dollars in real life hundred thousand people get this is one point five like seriously I'm talking I'm teaching like this is what y'all need
Starting point is 00:45:21 this stuff y'all need this thing is even the credit people going to tap in with your shit hey seriously because they don't know a lot of them don't know they don't know right so do you consult do you consult like credit people people to do credit yep I do yeah but I got a whole team that do it so so if I'm Johnny
Starting point is 00:45:37 Johnny do it all credit right from, I don't know where, Wyoming, I come to you. How much I got to charge you to get this game? How much you want to charge him? It's in the e-book. But no, I'm saying it's in the e-book. But if I don't know nothing about the e-book, and I heard about you, and I got to come to you and you got to train.
Starting point is 00:45:52 How much I got to do? Normal price is $12.50. Okay. And then just for anybody that go to that book, that schedule a consultation is going to be $9.75. I'm giving them game. Damn. We're going to clean them up. But the reality is that, think about this.
Starting point is 00:46:04 This is what the word says. It's a say, if you fish for a man, you feed them for a day. But if you teach them how it fits, you feed them for a lifetime. So why pay me now 75 to repay your credit? Hey, I do it. My company will do it. But why pay us when you can go get this ebook for free? I make it make sense to me.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Why not take the education and the knowledge and understanding and just go run with it? So now Wallet could clean his credit, but then he also could get Gilly straight. He gets his mom straight. And then I can start charging people. You can because now you know what you're doing. Because you got the knowledge and information. You got the gain. You got a million dollars worth of game.
Starting point is 00:46:37 and it's e-book you got it so even with this metro two compliance do i have to pay to get on some type of system or something to be able to use this how much i got to pay that's a great question so the book you're going to get the book you're going to get the book you're going to get the book i ain't going to say the system because they need to go they need to go get the system inside the book yeah but it's the system to use it you could do a pay as you go you can pay every 30 days and it's 125 to just have access to the system that's going to generate the letters for you 25 for how long a year a month for one month okay 125 for one month you pay that 125 you pay that 125 you You got access to the system to generate you letters for 30 days straight. So if I'm boo-boo and I live in Harlem, I'm on the couch right now. Yep. I get this e-book. Yep. I pay 125 to get inside there. Yep.
Starting point is 00:47:17 That 125 give me access to do everybody that I know in Harlem stuff. Yep. And look, it don't matter if you send it one letter, 29 letters, 82 letters in each round, that system is going to say, hey, listen, you got access to the system now. If you want to generate around the letters, right now the cost in the system is 15 bucks. And look, the reality is this. you're paying $125 to have access to the system and you're paying $15.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Within, I would say, three rounds, 70 days, you're going to be able to get whatever is on there pretty much off for there. So we're talking about 125 plus 15, 15, 15, 45 bucks. We talk about what? Like 100, like under $200? For under $200, we're smart. And in three months, you've got a clean slate.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And I can do that. But see, this is what I'm saying. I know I'm paying that 15, 15. Anytime I send it around. But listen, that initial $125, Yep, they get your access to the system. I could do 100 people. You could do 100 people, and it's got to be in 30 days
Starting point is 00:48:13 because that 125 is for every 30 days to have access. So it doesn't matter how many, it don't matter. So once you do the first week, you don't care to fuck about the next 125. You're giving that shit a fast. Yeah, so if you pay 125, and I do, let's say 100 people at a stack of person, do the math. Man, if you gave a 125 and you made 3,000. Yeah. You're like, that's a, that's an 800.
Starting point is 00:48:37 100% fucking mark up. Take this 125 every fucking month. Exactly. Hurry up. Exactly. You'd be looking at your phone. The bids and take that 125 yet. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:48 So think about this though, Gil. Look, you pay the 125. Let's just say, I only got to send two rounds of letters. So I paid 125, but then I paid another 30. And I got you straight. But you gave me a stack. What am I really out of? The $30?
Starting point is 00:49:00 That I paid? So I'm up 970 per person. You could do 10 people. That's $9,700. Now we're making six figures for the year. Hold on, hold on, wait. Stop breaking that game down. What fuck is you looking at this man like that for?
Starting point is 00:49:11 You fucking looking at it like you're ready to quit. He's like this. No, I'm serious. He's going to be in his head. I'm going to. See, and that's what I do. See, I can teach you that. I give you the game way, but I really focus on my mentorship program,
Starting point is 00:49:28 which is Dominated Decade the Mentorship Group. Well, I'm teaching people this game. I'm not out here trying to take all of the, what's for me. It's for me. How do I get into the mentor? If I want to get in the Dominated Decade the Deccation, How do I get in there? You know what's cold about it?
Starting point is 00:49:38 When they text that number, it's going to be a link right next to that book that they can, they can check it out if they want to get in there. So everything right there. Everything is right there. They can sign up for the mentorship program. And I'm going to teach them how to repair their credit, they sales, how to start their own credit repair organization so they can charge other people. I'm going to show them how to get a virtual assist.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And so the virtual assists can actually do the process for them. So they can be hands off. You know what I'm going to teach them how to live off credit cards and create passive income. You ever heard of manufacture spending? I'm going to teach them that. They get all of that in it. And I'm going to teach them about trade lines, which is the best kept super because that's just a crazy boost to the credit profile. I'm talking about, bro, I'm giving out the keys.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I got a, I got a 24-year-old girl. She got in my program, less than 90 days of being in my program. She's making $6,000 every two weeks. She's 24. She just brought herself up with Benz. She's chilling at the crib. She said, yo, you changed the game for me. She said, you changed the game.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I had a grown man in my program. He did 30 days in my program. He said, yo, after day two, I couldn't take it. He said, you brought me the tears. He said the information you're giving me. And I ain't even brought up funding. I teach people how to go get to the bag. I teach them how to go get to the bag.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I'm talking about, okay, so once your credit is straight, now what? What do I do with it? What is my game plan? What is my strategy? Like, how do I go get to the bag? I teach you how to go get to the back. And not only that, not just Walo Go Gilly go get to the bag, but show other people in the hood and in the community how to get to the bag.
Starting point is 00:50:58 And right now we're going to show you what you need to do. He's giving out the game in his ebook, this Metro 2 Compliance game. What you need to do, you need to text game. the 7-4-1-2-1-7-4-1-2-1 text game you're getting a free e-book I don't care of 100,000 y'all get this e-book you're getting his e-book where's though he told y'all y'all you can utilize these system pay 1-25 a month have access to the system and do everybody in the hood credit for them you could do everybody in your hood you could do everybody in your city you get online you can do everything right now we give you a million dollars worth of a game he's giving away a million dollars worth a book these books is
Starting point is 00:51:29 150 a pop right so over 100,000 y'all get them that's 1.5 ms so you listen you do the at the end of the day, what I need you to do now, I need you to go follow Mr. Phenomenal, Power, right? You see us all this information right now and I need you to text game. 7-4-1-2-1. What do you want to say before we go, man?
Starting point is 00:51:47 Hey, listen, I want to really give people an understanding of, again, where to go get the bag at, right? So I need people to start tapping in with these credit unions. Like, stop going to these traditional banks. They're cool. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:51:58 But I'm talking about this game right here. Go to these credit unions. And the reason why everybody want to go to credit unions and do business and build relationships is because credit unions are non-for-profit. They're not-for-profit. So when you go to a credit union, you say, yo, I want to get an auto loan.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Yo, I want to get a line of credit, personal or a business. When you go in there and you tell them that, they're more likely to do business with you and they're not trying to give you a high interest rate and they're not trying to grab money out your pocket. You know what I'm saying? So they're going like, yo,
Starting point is 00:52:22 hit go out $10,000, $15,000, $20,000 on line of credit. And yeah, we're going to get your account up. We're going to get you auto loan. We ain't going to run your credit, nothing crazy. Like, stop going to these banks. stop going straight into these collards and literally go into a credit union, establish
Starting point is 00:52:35 your relationship, say, yo, I got my LLC, everything is on and popping. I got that thing straight. I want to open me a personal account. Put like a hundred bucks in there. I want to open me a business account. Put like a hundred bucks in there. And just build on the relationship. And then you go back in there and say, yo, I want to get a line of credit. I want to do this. I want to do that. And you got the best chance at having success
Starting point is 00:52:51 in regards to getting to that bag with credit unions other than traditional banks. That right there, that's a game changer. People going getting their headbust at a regular bank, man. It's a phenomenon. I just get you all the game. man listen man tell him where to follow you at man man man you can follow me instagram at mr phenomenal power right on the screen you know what I'm saying and you can follow me on facebook at Dion Coopwood so that's just tap in with me man let's get to it
Starting point is 00:53:11 you got my brother right here listen yes gave out that game he gave out phenomenal game he's giving out a million dollars with a game once again text game to seven four one two one seven four one two one and that was another episode a million dollars worth a game business spotlight like that that was a real big movement for us because he planted that seed and we watered it and fertilized it and brought it to fruition and it was it was important to us man to try to accomplish a few things with that movement you know one being the first that my brother saying you know be an example for the culture to be able to see beef come together you know what I mean and then on another note we gave like over half a million dollars
Starting point is 00:53:59 a way to prisoner reform, people who are actually on the ground that's fighting, you know, for the freedom of inmates and accommodating the kids and different things, inmates and different things like that. And also we wanted to, you know, bring a light to the First Step Act, you know what I mean, which, you know, Larry is qualified to, uh, to, uh, to, get some, you know, some justice with, relief with right now. And that's where interference came into play with this dude, uh, rat, officer rat 100. You know what I mean? A lot of interference came in a place with officer rat 100 because what he done, you know
Starting point is 00:54:50 what I mean? And this has to be talked about because we're on a million dollars worth the game. And I got to get a game to the youth because I don't want them getting caught. in no crosses where there's Officer Rat 100 is concerned because he's a lie rat. You know what I mean? And here's the truth of what he's done. You know, even
Starting point is 00:55:11 though he tried to deceive and put you know our text messages you know in a form when we was talking about apples, he wanted to switch the game of and say we're talking about oranges. But, you know, I got proof and I'm going to show you all the real text messages that he didn't
Starting point is 00:55:27 want people to see. But what this brought other, you know what I mean, they called himself real, attempted to do and play, you know, with the old man. We call an old man. We call him, I call him my brother, my friend, you know, but most of all with his freedom, you know, because on two occasions, one, him and his chair, what's his woman name, Karen Chapman, you know, this is a lady that was entrusted to go in and interview, you know, Larry Hoover with a understanding of you bring this back to the family.
Starting point is 00:56:04 We're not clearing a way for you to go and do this for no other reason. We don't play like that, but that's what she done. She went an interview and ran off. You know what I mean? So what this dude has chosen to do is take a stand with a person like this, like when they was putting together the pardon for Larry a few years ago. And I'll let him tell that story. But I'm so, I'm feeling so good about it right now until I'm going to say,
Starting point is 00:56:32 and what I don't cover you, we're going to do like we're on DMC. So she didn't, wouldn't give footage for the pardon. Now, this is him being free. We just wanted, you know what I mean, because when you're trying to humanize a person, then you use footage, you use their own words to help in a situation like this. So it was about the money with her. She asked, well, what am I getting out of this?
Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah, let me reiterate that part. So when we were trying to put the pardon together, I said, we was trying to just get information on my father. So she had some actual footage of them. We'd like ask the attorneys, would that be good to have this footage to put on this part? They're like, yeah, that would be good. I said we can try to do it. We tried some numbers.
Starting point is 00:57:21 We caught up with the lady, and I called and I asked that. I was like, we need some of that footage because we're trying to put this pardon together. And she told me, she said, well, who's going to get paid for this? Well, how am I going to get paid for this? And I'm like, wow, this is about my father's freedom right here, and you want to know who's going to get paid for this footage. You know, so I don't know where she feels like she was really caring about our family, but she wanted to know who's going to get paid.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Well, we were trying to get this package together for this part. and then moving forward after that, that's around the time Kanye had went to the White House not too far before then or after that. She seemed that it was a buzz and my father's name was freshen people's heads and that's when she come from behind a rock somewhere
Starting point is 00:58:16 looking like it was an opportunity. Kanye reached out to her to try to get the footage again some years later and I don't know where it happened at, but somehow Wack wound up in the middle of the mix. And Wack was bargling, the middleman with the footage. First he was just the middleman for her because she didn't want to speak to us. But then next thing you know, he's a partner in the whole situation.
Starting point is 00:58:43 This is his footage. He got it and blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, what this clown done, you know, head up, like we're right here, he, with somebody, you know what I mean he portrayed to be oh I'm down with y'all the only reason I want to talk to him you know I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt for my brother because it's serious business right so I embraced that I entertain that and uh you know in retrospect when I hear him take a different position like he was partners with her and this and that the whole time I'm like oh so
Starting point is 00:59:26 This nigga one of them kind of niggas where all money, good money with him. You know what I mean? Everybody go. I'm from the school where everybody don't go. You know what I mean? And when you're playing with a man, freedom like that, and everybody go, then, you know, I take that real personal. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:45 So that's why, you know, I want all the culture, because I'm a nigga that stand for the culture. You know what I mean? I love the hip-hop culture. You know, I put in a lot of work. what a hip-hop culture is concerned. I blaze the trail. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:59 And when I see one, you know, trying to shit on two-pop, trying to shit on Nipsey, trying to shit on, you know, the homie big you out there, trying to shit on Master Pete. You know, good nigg, real niggers. You know, meek meal.
Starting point is 01:00:16 You know, I see a nigger get on a podcast and with another rat and go off on 21 Savage. I'm like, oh, this nigger got diarrhea at the mouth. He's like full of shit, right? He's the type of nigger that will shit in the bed and blame it on the baby.
Starting point is 01:00:34 You know what I mean? Imagine that. You know, you take a raw shit in the bed and say, that's the baby shit. I ain't shit it. You know what I mean? This is how he goes to trying to change narratives and different shit about the truth. And what be real cold about it is some people
Starting point is 01:00:50 get lost along the way. You know what I mean? They get lost along the way and they'll roll off a cliff with you know what I mean of Officer Rat 100 and you know I don't like the shit man I'm gonna calm down
Starting point is 01:01:06 and let y'all talk but I hope the people feel me because you know I ain't the type of nigga I don't believe in using a rat and like some niggas call him punks I remember call him nigger sissy so he like a sissy to me you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:01:22 he's a sissified nigga to me and I can say a whole lot of the game, but we own million dollars worth the game. But just just for the record, I want all that smoke that one that's talking about.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I know how to put all that out. Y'all time. But yeah, one last thing. The bottom line is the stuff was taken from us, and he partnered up with the lady to act like it was his, and I'm going to sell it back to you when it was I was in the first place and act like he's
Starting point is 01:01:53 a street dude, and he respect my old man, and respect everything, who is the real dude just go parting up with this chick that stole something and try to go in front of the world, like, he really had a right to do it. Like, he's trying to, you know, he's putting people in bad positions out there. It's people that's, you know, there's real upset about that. And I don't got nothing to, you know what I mean, I don't have nothing to do with him. I don't know what their head is, but, you know, he keeps just jumping out there in the deep water, man. worth a game is brought to you by game time sports live concerts events i'm talking of them last
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Starting point is 01:03:11 events. So what you need to do right now is download game time at right now. I mean, log in, create a login and redeem cold dollars. D-O-L-L-A-Z and get $20 off your first purchase. game time. Let me ask you a question, Jay. You know, now we're talking about calling me in California. It seemed like, you know, early stages of death row records. Did you, did you have anything to do with that?
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, early stages of death row record, me and the homie Mike have it. You know what I mean? I know Mike. You know, we was friends before all of this record confidence, right? And Mike ended up getting his case and going
Starting point is 01:04:01 in there, you know what I mean, doing this thing, he called me one day. And I asked the home, I said, you still got juice in the street? Because at that time, I'm buzzing. You know what I mean? The very thing that they laughed about, you know, me
Starting point is 01:04:15 pulling over to the curve and saying, oh, this is where the new money is at. That was funny. That was funny. the niggas back then they thought it was a game yeah now it was funny it was a laughing thing you know you go do that shit nigga woo-whoop I'm gonna do this here okay we'll do y'all thing we'll go do this so uh but anyway after one had time to sit and think a lot of times you know good thinking when you know how to think you know conquer a lot of bullshit and he's a
Starting point is 01:04:47 thinker so he and I you know had conversations about that and I actually send a group group I had called the Convix down Big Mike and 3-2, you know, down with their movement in the beginning, you know, that ignited everything. And we've heard Snoop publicly, you know, amid
Starting point is 01:05:08 on a few times. He got gained from 3-2, you know, a lot of slaying and different shit like that. So we brainstormed on that issue in the beginning, and it was when I was on a phone call with Shug, you know what I mean? Back then, all three of
Starting point is 01:05:24 can be on a call and uh i heard some recklessness and i didn't want to be on them you know tape calls and shit with that going on so i i bagged up y'all do y'all thing you don't owe me nothing rap a lot is what i do you know what i mean and and we moved on from now but you know i want i got to share this before we move on in their direction man i want i want to share this right here because this is Kanye and I know Ye ain't going to have no problem with me I want you to read it
Starting point is 01:06:00 so they won't say I played no this is a text from here I say with her now bro okay this has been exhausting too much it's him talking to whack 100 okay this has been
Starting point is 01:06:13 exhausted too much game playing what is she looking for bro tell me about it it's not us it's men stuck between two women bro you're with Karen, correct? Just making sure I know what we're talking about. Jay Prince is a better businessman than me.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I'm stepping out of this and letting him handle. It's too many games for me. Okay. Now, if you want to keep on going, you can keep on going. But clearly, they was trying to work some shit on him that he wasn't in agreement with. So this is how I get in the mix. Because he says, too many games playing.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Why do you want to play games around the old man freedom? You know what I mean? Why are the game is playing? So I come in the loop to try and, you know what I mean, bring some real accommodation to the situation. And, you know, we ain't got to stay there no longer. But it's a, I'm going to end up letting everybody see all this shit because that shit he sent out there.
Starting point is 01:07:11 There's a bunch of bootlegs shit where he changed the whole narrative. But this is the real route. Right. Too much game playing. Right. Now, you let him go. Therefore, you say, you know what, Mike? Shug, I'm going to stay out of this.
Starting point is 01:07:25 I'm going to let you handle your business be based off a dispute over the phone. I said, I'm back up. But I noticed that you got a lot of respect in California. What's that about? Yeah, well, I believe, man, that the real respect, the real all over the world. You know what I mean? When you really see it and tap into it, I'm that way. If I see a real, if he's on the moon, and I see realness, I'm going to embrace it.
Starting point is 01:07:52 I'm a salute it, I'm going to respect it. I ain't no hater. You know what I mean? Some niggas hate realness when they see it. They genuinely is on the move to keep niggas that's locked up, locked up. You know, this is what Officer of Rat 100 doing. A nigger that's locked up, he's working to keep him locked up. And niggas that's free, he's working to get them locked up.
Starting point is 01:08:16 But in California, you know, I've been playing out there for a long time. You know what I mean? I got a lot of groups that I put out in California, you know, a lot of rolling 60 homies, jungles. You know, I went through, I rode by myself through all these hoods. I met these, I was solo, went in the jungle, went to the rolling 60s, your relationships. And, you know, things grew from there. You know, it grew from there. I let them know, I ain't hating on your red, I ain't hating on your blue.
Starting point is 01:08:53 I'm green. Right. That's the flag I'm raving, that money green flag. You know what I mean? And that's the flag ain't by respect. Yeah, I mean, so, you know, they recognize it real. I recognize it real. And a lot of strong relationships out there even to this day.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Now, you got one of the coldest niggas in the game. Shikor Stevenson. What's going to be, what's going to be his hardest fight? Is it going to be Devin Haney? Is it going to be Devonty Tank Davis? What fight is going to be the pay-per-view year from now, maybe two years from now? Because I think you got one of the next big pay-per-view stars to, like, walk the planet. Yeah, I think Shakur's hardest fight is going to be within himself.
Starting point is 01:09:44 You know what I mean? I think, you know what I'm saying? focus, you know, staying focused and keeping that work ethic and everything intact with all the millions that he's going to make because it's a challenge, man, and we're getting all that money on your plate. It's a real challenge. Getting it is one thing, keeping it is another. So that's where the real challenge is going to be because the gifts he got is God-given.
Starting point is 01:10:12 You know what I mean? It's from up above. Right. That shit different. Yeah. Well, he got you on his side. So, you know, you had it and kept it forever. So you should be able to direct people out of keeping it.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yeah, because when you come in, like, no, just think about this. This got to be the first boxing promoter to come in the game, say, I'm coming in the game. I want to get in the boxing. I want to manage Mike Tyson. Like, wait a nigga, like, not a little boo-boo who's a hell of a nigger and the amateurs. He will write the mic So his fucking mindset was just
Starting point is 01:10:52 Different, no Mike I'm trying to get in the business with you Like who you manage your boxing? I ain't never managed the box in my fucking life I do I do records Mike I want to manage you And then He don't get to manage Mike
Starting point is 01:11:06 But Floyd come in the gym And Floyd's a fan So he's looking at you In a whole different light than Mike He's like yo I listen to the ghetto boys man he respect you on the business tip and then you're managing floyd yeah but that shit would have never happened if he had lower level thinking yeah but nigger wasn't thinking like a boss yeah if a nigga didn't had a mentality of no no no i ain't i ain't even trying to start at the bottom
Starting point is 01:11:34 yeah i'm trying to come in at the top yeah and if i wasn't a believer in exercise in faith right absolutely well if you if you out here and you doing anything and you ain't got god and life, then that's on you. Yeah. You know, you work that out when you get the way of you're going. But you know what's crazy. God has really been on your side, prince. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Back in the day, you said that it was a hit man put on you. But you're still here. Oh, yeah. Speak about that. Oh, man, you know, let me testify to what you said first, you know. Amen. Yes. You know, I mean, because, you know, I've been.
Starting point is 01:12:17 I get this analogy where, you know, I'm like right in the center of his hand and ants, termites, everything, all around, and he protect me and don't allow none of it to touch me. And then he deliver my enemies and making my footstools. You know what I mean? So I have to testify to that one, first of all, but it's a true story. You know, it's a true story where I always been a target. I don't know how I having a life without being a target by the police seat. I mean, FBI, I don't know what life feel like without it.
Starting point is 01:12:58 I always been a target. I witnessed those before me in my hood being targets, so I then became immune to it to a certain extent because it's been a lifestyle with me. But, you know, there's a couple of agents, man. One by the name of Jack Schumacher and the other one by the name of Chad Scott. And I wrote about this in my book, The Arden Science of Respect. And these guys, one of them, they kill like seven or eight people. Damn.
Starting point is 01:13:30 That's why I call him a hitman. This is an officer with bodies, which is highly abnormal for an officer to have, one officer to have. any bodies, right? So he was assigned to Jay Prince to take Jay Prince down, you know, him and Chad Scott. And one night they pulled me over leaving my office on the side of freeway. And I never been pulled over once by to be told to go somewhere else and stop, right? Pull me over, say, oh, you go over there to the McDonald's, and we'll, you know, I'm going to meet you over So, bam, I pull over to the McDonald's, it's black dark over there at the McDonald's. I'm like, damn, I see a Jeep in a cutler's over there.
Starting point is 01:14:21 But I got homies behind me because I move in a special way, right? So I tell a homie, I ain't pulling over there. Y'all just follow me, you know, and also in the shell where the light at. So bam, I went over to the light. I'm a light, nigger. I ain't trying to, you know what I mean? embrace that darkness, right? You know, I know about the darkness.
Starting point is 01:14:43 The fucking right. So I go to the light, and he come up to the car, and he's like, why you didn't fucking pull over? I say, sir, I didn't want to think you trying to harm me in that dark, and I didn't want you to think I was trying to harm you in that dark. What's the problem?
Starting point is 01:15:02 You were swerving. You got the wrong man. I don't drink. And this is an FBI agent? this is a this is a a regular cop a regular cop yeah but what you call them the patrol
Starting point is 01:15:16 they put him on me first to send me to them so I'm talking to him and I'm watching his eyes right and he's looking over there in that darkness I don't know what's in that darkness
Starting point is 01:15:26 I don't know that's who that's who you know you ain't fucking with that dog I'm standing in the light I'm a lightning so you know he tells me he said
Starting point is 01:15:34 where you guns so right then I'm like damn, I ain't even get you my gun license. I got a license, but I'm like, called my name out. I say, man, my guns is under my seat. I say my hands on the steering wheel. What's the problem?
Starting point is 01:15:51 How much money you got on you? Say, man, you need to borrow some money or something? Why are you asking me about my money? Right? So he told me to get out the car. I get out of the car, and he go around and, you know, say, look at my guns or put him. him, you know, out of the protective spot
Starting point is 01:16:11 or whatever he was trying to do. So the man passed my guns up and started looking and searching the car, so I step around him. I say, man, why are you violating my rights, man, searching my car? He jumped. Get back over there. I said, why are you violating my rights, though? You're searching my car for what?
Starting point is 01:16:26 So he comes back around, and he's looking over there by this time, the cutlets from across the street come over, and a guy with an army fatigue suit with black paint on his eyes like the football players right so I'm looking at this clown like what the fuck is this you know what I mean because I'm thinking is this a civilian I don't know what's going on right like he was hunting so by that time you know he he pulled off the green jeep circling so both of the vehicles from across street circling and uh by this time he come back and get me a warning a warning a
Starting point is 01:17:06 warning ticket. I said, I'd be down. So I get home, you know, I leave the station by that time the shit was over, homers were swerving. I'm sure it was discouraging because everybody showed up, you know, in that 15,
Starting point is 01:17:23 20 minutes or whatever. So I get home, check my gun, I got two bullets missing. I'm like, damn. And I go to thinking, like, what did they want to do to me in that dog? Right? What do they want to do to me in that dog? So at that point, I knew, you know, because I had been getting threats from them on a few occasions about what they're going to do to me.
Starting point is 01:17:45 This happened to their witness, and, you know, they were sending shit to me. They was, like, harassing and assaulting, you know, people that worked for me, taking their jewelry. You know what I mean? So all of this went on, man, and I finally decided to hire an investigator to investigate them. You know what I mean? And that's when a whole lot of shit came to light because we tapped into an ex-lieutenant that was no longer a lieutenant of shoemarkers.
Starting point is 01:18:17 And he just told us everything. Oh, how many murders this dude had that was questionable. And it's a lot of shit in that investigation came out, which ultimately led me going to Washington, D.C. with Congresswoman Maxine Waters and Janine Reno, the late great Janine Reno. And, you know, I always tell everybody, Maxine Waters, is what I consider a hip-hop angel, you know, for our race for people that are mean right, because if she don't take a stand, then it would be a whole other story if her and Janet Reno don't take a stand. at least let me come and put some things on record
Starting point is 01:19:07 and all I wanted to put on record was I'm in fear of my life that's what I went to tell them because if I happen to come on top of these people that's trying to hit me y'all don't be mad I'm in feel my life they got snipers out here at the goddamn McDonald's that don't want
Starting point is 01:19:25 it's dark they don't want two cheeseburger meals they're trying to do some other shit yeah they were trying to work your mouth he was trying to get OG a goddamn workout man out there about a good thing you had your streets tell me yeah but so so before i can make it home good from now they didn't check and found jewelry that the laws and stole and had all kinds of possessions that they had and it's the real kicker the dude chad scott who showed up that night just got busted last year you know what i mean it's been over a decade ago i put the spotlight on
Starting point is 01:20:00 this clown. He got busted last year, man, and got by 15, 20 years, but the very same thing. You know what mean? He was wrong. Damn. Damn. He ruined a whole bunch of niggas life. You got cops all he really think is training day, huh?
Starting point is 01:20:16 Yeah, before Denzel. That's deep. Shit, man. Listen, man, you got anything else you want to say? I got to ask him something. Okay, go ahead. I remember you did a deal. I know you had new tribe, you know, But you did something with Rick Rubin and a Deaf American.
Starting point is 01:20:35 How did that go? Yeah. Rick Rubin, man, was one of the first deals that I'd done after we went gold. I mean, I always respected Russell Simmons and Rick Rubin movement, you know. And we came together and, of course, we changed that name from G-H-E-T-O that white America to G-E-T-O. The Ghetto Boys, and we put out the album, The Ghetto Boys, Ghetto Boys, which almost went platinum with Rick Rubin.
Starting point is 01:21:09 But here's what, the interesting turn, about the Rick Rubin situation, Giffin records owner, David Giffon. You know, now, he had Slayer, he had all the big boys. Yeah, all the heavy metal shit that was, big shit. Yeah, spitting the same lyrical content that the ghetto boys. was spitting but he decided he don't want to put the ghetto boys out so I was confused about this shit right but I understood what that meant you know what I mean I'm like oh so this shit still go on even in the music business right because y'all had proof of
Starting point is 01:21:49 concept y'all was already gold hey man we had all of that man but we were some reckless talking niggas and it was okay for the heavy metal artists and all of them to talk that shit that devil worship and shit but they had a problem and wouldn't let Rick put us out and I'd done that deal based on having access
Starting point is 01:22:10 to that machine you know what I mean so that's how I was able to get out of that Rick Rubin deal after that album because I let Rick know even though Rick Rick had got a major blessing by being able to get released
Starting point is 01:22:26 He went down like a $20-something million new deal. You know what I mean? So I'm like, Rick, well, we ought to go. We ain't signed up just to do you and whoever, you know what I mean? So, you know, he ultimately agreed to that. And mind-playing tricks was our next time we followed up with. I knew he was mad as shit he agreed. That's where you try to double back.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Did we sign that contract yet, Nick? I don't know if I want to agree to that because when that mind playing tricks came out I think that's when I don't know he might because he think he a hip hop historian but I think that's wrong
Starting point is 01:23:10 I got a test out of that shit he heard he see this thing that I ain't never I'm going to talk about Texas right there but I think that's when the East Coast started respecting that shit that shit was different when mind playing tricks on me came out
Starting point is 01:23:25 Oh, go to the room laying at candles. It was a holding for a joint. You know. Listen, Scarface. A night I can't sleep. What? That shit came on. And then with Mrs. Scarface,
Starting point is 01:23:35 back, that shit came out. It was a whole different thing in the East Coast. That's all you heard. That's all you heard. That shit. Every car was hitting that shit, but I'm going to say this. That man, it's this guy. That's all you heard.
Starting point is 01:23:43 I'm going to talk about this. Talk about Texas, right? You had a lot of the more. What was it? That South distribution and some shit. So South. Yeah, so South. You had Southwest Distributed, right?
Starting point is 01:23:57 You had a lot, listen, the shit that was going on down in Texas, you had a lot of independent that came after y'all. Shout out to a lot of them cats that took some of your blueprint and really made money independent. You know, fat, Pat, I'm talking about little Kiki. You had a lot of... With your house. With your house.
Starting point is 01:24:17 All, you know what I mean? Screw. Listen, you had a lot of people out there. You had this thing probably called Southwest, but then you had pin and pixel, right? Right. Now, 21 Savage just had an album, him and Metro Boom, and then they used it, the thing. Cash money, you should use Pen & Pixel. Master P.U.S. Penit Pixel was a one-style shop. And I'm going to say this, though. I'm surprised that nobody is doing that right now. If somebody did that right now, they'd kill them.
Starting point is 01:24:44 But I heard you gave Pen-N-Pixel, they first shot, but before I say that, let me break it down. Penipixel was a place that if you're rapping, they would do your CD cover, they'd do posters for you, they'd do merch for you, they'd do stickers for you, they did everything. I'm talking about if you look at all the MasterP Catalog, Cast, Money, they did all of them covers, and they probably did like 20,000 different covers in the rap game around the country. And that's all they did was design covers and do artwork and posters. They bring your shit to life. It was two brothers, and I heard you gave them, you gave me first shot. True story, Aaron Brock, you know, back in, what, 80s. 86, 87, they came and joined forces with me and my partner at the time, Cliff Blodgett.
Starting point is 01:25:26 And, yeah, they started their company, man, and done their thing. They killed the game. Yeah, yeah. That's how you know you're a true O.G, too. There's all the true G is called niggas by their first and last name. Yeah, Michael Stewart, yeah, back in the day. Non-Elean. All that shit.
Starting point is 01:25:43 They all young niggins, y'all be like, bullethead on a little shoot them up. Oh, yeah. But I see, this is what I want to know. What gave you that courage? And that just, you really had belief in yourself because you always step to somebody. If they had something going on, because if you listen to all the people that you was connected, if they had something going on, you were stepping to them trying to bring your value. And a lot of people today, and I want you to educate the young people if you can, give them some gain.
Starting point is 01:26:07 A lot of people day, they step to people with no value. They just step to people, put me on. I can rap. I can do it. And it's like no value. What's the importance of, like, believing in yourself when you got value? trying to connect with people that can go to the next level. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:22 It's real important, man, to try and surround yourself with like-minded individuals. You know what I mean? Like, I remember on the come-up where people in my own household was telling me to be normal, you can't do this, you know, this ain't going to work, all the discouraging shit. And one of the key things that really, you know, helped me. me out as to surround myself with like-minded individuals. So I'm going to encourage everybody to have somebody on your team that's going to believe and you're going to ride with you and got the same work ethic that you have.
Starting point is 01:27:00 You know what I mean? That's the beginning. And I think that's the foundation to doing everything. And from now, you want lawyers and different things that people that know the rules of the game so you don't get your back in, knocked out of pocket. Right. You're back in serious You know
Starting point is 01:27:19 And you got to surround yourself with people Who got vision, man Who can see as far down the street as you Yeah Because you know You'll tell a motherfucker Oh I'm about to buy $5 million Out of house and they won't believe it
Starting point is 01:27:32 Like But $5 million to a motherfucker They got some real money Is equivalent to you going to the store and buying a bag of Fucking chips Yeah You feel what I'm saying So you got to understand
Starting point is 01:27:46 that all this shit out here is obtainable. You can make it happen. Just like Jay made it happen, just like this nigga was locked up for 20 years. All the jobs he had to do in prison, being a lifeguard in the shower. There's no fucking life, like that.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Captain of the wrestling team running karaoke night. It's bullshit. And the pimp and all that shit he had to do to make it through to get out here to only have his feet on land for five years. And he got three benches, multiple houses, Eminem's in his account. It ain't no fucking excuses out here
Starting point is 01:28:18 You're only going to go as far as you can believe This motherfucker belief I think he believed that he's like 6-9-260 Because when he's going to room He think he ain't getting no dumb Going in with Mike Tyson I'm coming out here with the deal
Starting point is 01:28:34 The refrigerator pairs He walking in there like Even Mike had to finesse him while he was there Hey things good Everything began up here Absolutely If you don't believe it Then you ain't got nothing
Starting point is 01:28:45 coming fucking right that's real and you got to believe it and i'm a big believer in speaking shit into existence oh man you know i said on a record four years before he came home and all i really want is for wallow to come home and when my little cousin touch we gonna get this stunting on nigga it's happening yeah it's really it's really and i believe this and i believe this in thursday nights that you're had them basketball games down in the fifth what i came through and cook jill i left with all the money here I just said, I'd have left with all the money. I'd have left all on Thursday night games down in the Fifth Ward.
Starting point is 01:29:21 I'd have left with all the fucking money. You hear me? Well, y'all know some shit, man. I'm talking about crime went down in the city on Thursday night. I know. Everybody was there. They said they was dead watching that shit. I don't want so much there to chase me up out of that joint.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Yeah. They didn't get a nigga don't ever come back, nigga, yeah. My little nigger from the fifth world would have probably try to slap me all in the head with the gun and all. I don't want so much money down there. And then I'd have been talking shit They wouldn't have liked that, man They had to try to do me dirty down in the fifth war Thank God Tony ain't take me to none of them joints down there
Starting point is 01:29:53 Because I would have left with you You know my game nights They call me Chauncey Gillips Like that Damian Gillard Grant Gill Sam Gil cell You know
Starting point is 01:30:03 All the gills except for Kendall Yeah Better I call me that dick of year I'm gonna say this man He is though we right here And we represent I'm gonna give a shout at somebody that's very important to me and Gil from Texas.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Shout out to Tray the Truth. You're always out there. You always the first one to run, drop everything when shit is going down with the people in the community. Real life superhero. I don't care. I don't care. Whatever it is, man.
Starting point is 01:30:27 You just always, man. And those trade A's be unimaginable. For all you young cats that's coming up in this game. Get to a trade day. You start off. You get your hot. Take yourself down to a trade day. And you know me.
Starting point is 01:30:42 And really connect. And connect. I'm telling you, man, it's an unbelievable experience, man. Make sure y'all tap into that, man. But shout out to Trey, man. Trey, the truth, man. It's nothing like not forgetting where you come from. I mean, I don't like a nigga that forget where you came from, whether it's going to basketball, football, whatever balls. Right. It's not disown where we come from.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Absolutely. Some kind of aspect, give back. That's what it's about. That's all that's about with me. And that's all is about with us. y'all know we're giving back to the community every day. That's what it's about big enough our people just because we're in position to do it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:31:20 Not because anything else, just because we're in position to make it happen. So that's why we do it. But, man, we want to thank the motherfucking king for coming through, man. Free Larry Hoover. Free lag, man. Appreciate you coming on Larry and just sharing your story about your journey. Because I know it's real personal. I know it's personal and that's a private story of what you went through growing up.
Starting point is 01:31:42 without your father and just it's really emotional for you because I see it in you because it's like it's been a fight unbelievable fight but man you keep fighting man you dad being who he is as well you know what I mean so the last time I visit him he told me keep on swinging whatever you do that's what it's about don't stop swinging now and this is the swing right here just getting the information out for more people y'all your confirmation of what a swing is appreciate that you all turn nothing into something this is a perfect example of turning nothing into something this a perfect example of not having no excuses. None.
Starting point is 01:32:14 You know what I mean? If one can goddamn do what y'all doing, do what I've done, and we're inspirations for everybody. Absolutely. Because you got your own island. Yeah. Two of them. Prince Islands.
Starting point is 01:32:26 He got two islands. He got two islands. He threw 20s in the fireplace in the winter to keep the house warm and shit. You've been getting money for so long. I'm just mad at him. He'll be eating so long. They don't remember that. They ain't got one picture when he was fucked up.
Starting point is 01:32:41 He had a diamond ring He had a diamond ring in the gang I appreciate you for coming through O.G, man, I appreciate you. You know what I mean? A solid, always going to keep it solid, man. It's real. Me and I was worth a game and it's just like that.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Right.

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