Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 181: FEATURING CAM'RON

Episode Date: August 21, 2022

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to the Empire State. we're in Philly right now But cam from where Uh huh Yep

I mean I can't lie when this shit first came out bro This work this woke the world Fuck New York City Now I appreciate that thank you Oh Get your order up I'm afraid him to Baltimore In the Florida

Oh man Damn Yeah That's What you're On the side walk with a tip Put you on the fender You can't be front and center

I'm a big chain And all my splinter Oh Damn Yeah That was That was That was

That was Yeah And once again If you're paying left with advice To be the man that right checks With the hand that don't right

Oh shit I'm just saying Niggas ain't talking That shit like this though I ain't gonna hold you I was like Like you all now In my head like oh shit

He did that shit in one take In six minutes I was like oh shit Was I right? Yeah He got You knuck that shit in one take It's going crazy

I'm like I ain't gonna be in no 30 minutes right And I'm doing my shit in six minutes Man I'm knocking my show in six minutes I didn't do that shit in five He thought about shit for four five minutes.

I said, dig it through my name in it? Here we go. Here we go. And the rap was, I'm talking about this is when you was excited about the lyrics. Yeah. It wasn't just about the hook.

Yeah. This hook is great, but you was excited about, I got a, he going to talk that shit. Yeah, yeah. That was a moment. That was definitely a moment, man.

You know what, man? Big moment, man. It was extremely big moment, but it's like, you know. You weren't here for that moment, though. I wasn't here, but right now you're now tuned into me, me, me, me, me, me, me, million dollars worth a game. But listen, this is important. All right, I'm getting right to it.

Did Hove take off on you on that? On this record right here? Did he take off on you? When you say take off, what do you mean, exactly? Did he leave you? Did he, do you think he did better than me? I meant here. No, I just know if we stayed to state, I won't know what take off me.

Did he take off me, did he kill me on it? Did he kill you? No, no way, no way. Absolutely not. What Hope did was I'll be honest with you And it was amazing I talked about it one other time maybe twice You know we had a kind of had a conversation

About some other shit And what he did do He fucking walked in the room And heard the beat for five minutes And spit that verse And you know it wasn't no premeditated shit Like you know sometimes let's say Let's say I saw it the Gil right

I say yo We're gonna go to studio tomorrow 8 o'clock you may start putting little notes together today or tomorrow if you start putting little shit together and then finish it off in the studio Whole ain't even know we're going to do I didn't know he's going to do a record

we talk we vibe for 20 minutes 15 20 minutes I said yo let's go do this record he sat there thought about and then my name's in it and his verse I said oh this is kind of different let me get to work quick he did that in five minutes I ain't going to hold you it was amazing it's amazing to see

but as far as taking off on me you go listen to the lyrics don't listen to it nobody ever took off for me Nobody never Not one time Go listen to any feature I'm on You

Dutch and Spade They went They got a little busy Go listen Go listen my verse You had 90 bars He had about 90 bars He had about 90

I said damn This nigga ain't gonna stop Why And listen shout to Dush and Spade I'm my niggas I didn't see them in a long time I'm niggas

But they was the new act on my label And I'm like You weren't unwanted them on my record I didn't mind to be on my record because I thought

them niggas was dope and I was like I'm not letting the new young niggas on the label come go crazy and it's my album now I'm spending 90 bars yeah

I come to me for all the time so I just my favorite verse ever can yo you were ballistic yeah because it was too

young niggots seemed like they know what's up day to day I swear and them niggas talk that shit too yeah you know what I'm saying

so I was like oh let me go crazy because if you ever listen to it the nigga kids talk about all the time I felt like Biggie

when the locks got there and if you ever listen to the first song the locks did with Biggie Kiss talks about it Biggie, the locks put they shit

they went on first thing big says niggas talking it but they ain't living in Christ out yeah where you can't listen to bitch

yeah with the willies like who these little dirty niggas fuck is y'all talking about they're talking that shit but I'm living in

right and the locks know that they talk about that all the time so that's how I felt with Dutch and Spade not saying whatever but I was like

there's no way y'all gonna come come let y'all come over here and do whatever so yeah you're going to get about 62 bars you know what I'm saying right so but I fuck with them niggas they put a lot of a lot of times I was the only me and charlie Baltimore was the only artist on the label so when they came not saying found threatened but I had to try and be like oh this my house right now it was it was it was hold on hold on before you say that this episode of me and I was worth of game is bought to you by new amsterdam and vodka now um life ain't going your way

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with this pink horsepower. Oh, yeah, that's the fact. That's the fact. We'll get to it. Absolutely. Because, Walo, you know,

he burned his piece out in jail, jerking off and shit. Yeah, I mean, when you do 12,000, 9-42 jerkoffs, your piece ain't done when you get it's done when you come home, man.

So we definitely going to need a couple cases for this. Not a problem. I got you. Yeah, I mean, I hear that shit going brazy out. Yeah, it's going, Craig, touch me. We're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about it.

Like the young niggas say, it's going brazy. That's a fact. All right, so I want to get back to this. So, they're welcome to New York City song. How did that come about? Because I know you're saying y'all was in the studio, but at one time when you first got to the record label, I wasn't up there, but, you know, it was close.

So I used to hear that cam and who didn't get along. Right. Well, when I got to the label, I was in a bad situation with Def Epic. Dame Dash is my man I'm talking about since I was 13, 14 years old My grandmother lived in the same projects he lived in

I don't want to say Projects Day would get mad If you say he lives in the projects They lived in like a nice little co-op On the east side of Harlem So we was super cool So when I got the Rockefeller I thought

And I know Hove 2 before He had a record deal You know what I'm saying So when I got the Rockefeller I'm thinking okay I'm with the family And it's kind of like They had their own situation and then I would try and speak to Hove and Hove would just like kind of brush me off, so to speak.

You know what I'm saying? And I've learned when I was over there, you got to earn Hose respect musically. You know what I'm saying? It's like, okay, you hear Dane bought you here. You're Dane, man, you ain't my man. So I was heating up and I was getting hot, and I tell you, oh, you might do something here. We'll see, we'll see, we'll see. And then it got to a point when I was getting hot and I was like, damn, man, you know, what the

fuck my nigga we're not going to do something so you used to be in the office how you used to see Hove all the time the studio office both so you know Rockefeller out of studio then Juan O.G. Warren y'all know him as well he had

the studio baseline and all the artists from Rockefeller used to go there every day so I would go to the office see Hove Dame you know Hove didn't come to the office that much but he'd definitely be in the studio them niggas be in there gambling do a bunch of shit but it was like me and Hove didn't really speak

as much as I spoke to everybody else so as we got hotter it was more like I'm asking you hold you don't really want to speak and then one day we actually had a conversation like you all seem like there's some tension here I want to clear the air we good and I'm like great

because I've just been wanting to get that conversation out the way too and being that we good I actually got a beat up right now just Blaze did it let's go do it right now and that's how the song came about just like that okay now now now one thing about it you came out of the messed up situation with epic

you come over to Rockefeller you went to deaf jam builder how did you make because you know I heard some things you know you learned the building how did you learn the building what was you doing what was you doing to make you get that record popping oh boy like what was you doing so

when we got the deaf jam Rockefeller I was in a fucked up situation at Epic entertainment first but they were signed to Epic unlossed deal and Epic kept me like because they had it in the contract if we ever get rid of unreal out

to take what artists we want from him. So now I'm an epic. They're super duper corporate. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. So I'm like, I'm in a seven album deal. So when I get there to Epic, I don't give a fuck it first

when I get a record deal. I'm 19. I just got a record deal. 20, whatever. I got a deal, you know, like, it's no big deal now because then he's got the net and all that's like a record deal,

nigger? With Sony? Epic? I got a deal. So I didn't care about learning the business. And then I'm seeing my peers shining and getting money

and I'm like, I'm just surviving. I'm not really bawling. I got a car. I had to sell, we were talking about it early, I had to sell 50% of my publishing because I had enough to get the crib but I didn't have enough to get the new car and I'm like, I can't have a deal without the car.

I sold 50% of my publishing at the time so I could go get the 600 bans. How much you got? For the publisher at the time, probably $80,000. damn at the time so I was like I need the new bands I need a crib I don't know what publishing was for my accounting

I got a different account now but my accounting at the time was like Cam do not do this you're bugging I'm like you don't live where I live I got to go up town with the new car man yeah I got a flex he's like I'm telling you you fucking bugging bro you're bugging the fuck out man I'm like maybe I'm bugging I don't care

so when I'm at epic I'm like shit ain't I ain't doing this. So it was a female there who took a liking to me. And she really started teaching me the game like, yo, this is your marketing budget. It don't seem like doing marketing, but the head of marketing just bought the new Lexus. This is your radio budget. You ain't getting no spins.

But the head of radio just went on a vacation in the Bahamas with his whole family. This is like vacation money. if you're 11,000 out your budget I don't see what 11,000 going marketing, the nigga 22,000 out the budget where they marketing it. So I'm learning there. I'm like, yo, niggas is playing with me? Yo, what the fuck are you talking about?

So now I'm mad. So now I'm like, all right, bet. I got to get out this deal. Me and Dane wasn't speaking for a while and over some shit that was dumb, but it's some street shit or whatever it was

from some street shit. We ain't speak for like three, four years. And I'm like, fuck, that's my man. Damon's my man. So I'm like, I got to go apologize. He's super duper up. That's been my nigger. I'm not going to say and say,

I shouldn't apologize because I really should have, it shouldn't have took that situation for me to go apologize, but it happened. So I went to him and I was like, yo, my bad, blah, da, la, la. I need your help, bro.

And he was like, what you need? He's like, yo, this fucked up. I need to get on a deal. I need to get out this deal. I need your help because he's up, super up. So he's like, all I bet I got you. So now I'm like, all I do is get out this deal.

My job, I'll do all did two albums and a seven album deal. All right. You ever see straight out of Compton like when Ice Cube going and hit the record, the record label, his shit with the bet? Like, that shit was Fisher Price, what I did. Compared to what I did, nigga. I'm going there with 40, 50 niggas every day. Shout to my man, Luke Albrazi, too.

Because that's when I used to fucking Yeah, I used to Because Luke I was my man He had the Taliban on the hill He used to sell CD So I go get a nix from my block I go with nays from this block And we were going

Sony records Every day with 50 niggas Start going to niggas Cube Yo, let me get some chips Yo, man Yo, let me use your phone Niggas like who is these niggas

Like I'm got Niggas leaning on niggas So I go on the president of office Shout to Dave McPherson We cool now and all that I'm like let me out this deal He's like Kim I'll say y'all

I got to get out. Your niggas ain't doing the right thing. Your nix's playing my money. I got to go. Stop playing with me. So now they got undercover cops in there every day. Three cops. They come in there.

What's going on? Move, man. I don't get a fuck about y'all niggas, man. I did that shit for about three weeks straight. Niggas will leave. Smack a computer over. Mawfucking kicked the garbage all on the floor type of shit until it got to the point where Dane eventually came up there with me to Epic.

And he's like, you should just let him go, bro. This is not going to stop. And I'm like, so they end up letting me go. I get the Rockefeller. I'm excited to be there. I'm happy. But hold on, before I get that, I told Dame had three different distributions.

I said, Dane, I don't want to go to Rockefeller. Which is I with your deal at Elektra? Hey, why you don't want to come to Rockefeller? I said, yeah, I got some shit I'm about to do. What, niggins? And now that I'm free, I got a plan, I got a label, I got all this shit that I want to do. Now, you'll be good, you'll be good.

I'm like, all right, whatever you say, it's cool. So we go to Rockefeller, and it's cool. I'm meeting everybody. I'm learning the building and everything. I just got jerks So now I need to know who runs marketing So I understand that you don't jerk me Now who runs radio

Because I just came from a previous situation Where niggas was fucking with my radio budget I just want to build a report You're early and know that I'm going to be checking On the money On the spins On where the marketing dollars is going to Where the promotion is going to

I'm on top of all this stuff So let's get this report now So I got there And that's just what I did Because I knew the music was going to be good and we started doing we started doing well so now deaf jams in the same building as Rockefeller so now I'm going to get cool with Leorne now I'm going to get cool with

who for those who don't know Leo that was the president yeah of Def Jim I'm going to cool cool with uh Kevin Lowell so I'm going to Mike Kaiser Mike Kaiser Julian radio Julie Greenwald them is now they my people you know what I'm saying so Michael Kaiser ran radio and my man Zeke I put Zeke on them

every day No disrespect Mike Not like that But I was like Yo we need to fucking get These radio spins Because there's no internet It's no fucking

He was in a good Mike nerve every day Every day Every day He went to Mike Kaiser office If not every day Three four times a week Mike Hyatt

We need to sperm We need to spun And That's how old boy became the number one Radio record At the time When it came out

In 2003 2 whatever year it was Because we was working With him I don't want I was putting pressure on them, but we was working with them saying, yo, we need this.

We pop and what's the problem? We need what's the, why is it disconnected? It's not getting on radio. Then once it went to radio, it went crazy. Then we got there, and it was like some empty rooms,

like two closets. Because we used to be in Rockefeller office every day laying up and this person, that person office, murder ink is on the same floor as Rockefeller. Right.

But it's too, it's a little space in between. It's like a walking closet. So it's two. So it's two walking closets with cubicles in front of it. Yeah. And I was like, yo, let's clear this shit to fuck out and build our own office in here.

So we took all the junk out the closets. Had the poppies who did nighttime cleanup, put the phone lines in there. And we made our own office in death jail, a diplomat office. But nobody know because we just, now we walk in Pasoacrofeller to get the office. They're like, what's down there? What's going on there every day? So now I got an office. This episode of million dollars worth a game is brought to you by

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now other people with the label I want to say who or whatever they're like yo we've been here all this time the fuck can't get the office dame like cam got office can't what do you get the office I say yo don't yo dame don't try to kick me out some shit I found because nobody gave me this we kind of just took it

and made it our office so that's how we got kind of pop and I know niggas on the label was hot yeah I know you I've seen a couple attitudes but Y'all been there longer than me. Y'all ain't see these rooms? He's just been here.

It seemed like they're just been sitting there five, six years. We're just throwing junk in it. So we made the office. I remember now we're doing mixtapes. I go to Dane. I say, look, I got this diplomat shit I'm about to do. I want to come bring Jewels to you in my label. Cam, you just got here.

This is about a month and a half in two months. Kim, look, look, look. You got to relax. You got to relax You just got here We're going to get it I said All right

All right Cool Whatever You sure So yeah Yeah I got you Cool Go to Kevin Lowe's office

Yo At this diplomat This is This is my little man Jewel's Distimusing Cav hair I want to sign

It I want to sign Right now Tomorrow No I'm exaggerating We'll do The deal immediately I think he's a star

And I think The label's I did We'll do a joint Venture with you Back Go downstairs I said

Dane I bought it to you first But I'm just telling you I'm about to do the Deal for diplomats And Jewel's on deafness What? What the fuck you're talking about? I said, nah, listen, you have to calm down Because I knew you.

No, they're just doing that to get me mad. Fuck that. If I would have went through them with this deal, they wouldn't want to do it. How much again? That's an M. He's like, oh, hell no. He goes up, you know, we're going to

Caroline? I said, dang, please don't fuck my money. Please, bro. He's like, if they don't give If they cut, fuck up on the deal, I'll give you the million. So, let's go. You go up there, start going crazy. Kevin Lowe, like, you're just doing this to give me mad?

Kevin Lowe, like, bro, I just like the artist. I like the idea. I think Cam is hot. I think the diplomats shit is hot. I think his little man Jewels, I'm giving them a deal. Nah, nah, niggas, you just going to do that because you ain't the... Kevin Lyle said to Dame. He said, Dame, I get a salary.

I get the same money, whether it goes through Def Jam or those through Rockefeller, whoever. I don't give a fuck. What are you? You just doing it. I get mad. so now this shit

taking a couple weeks I'm like yo dang where is this money you said matter of fact just give me the money

since you try to give me and when the deal come back I give you the money now it's coming I said yo so now I remember saying

yo damn I need to go buy these pounds because that's what I was going to do with the money I was going to buy a mad piece

because I was like I just came from a fucked up situation this seemed great but I ain't risking it dang like I Dave always think everywhere is Wyatt everywhere

He doesn't mean it He's talking He thinks he's wired He thinks he's wired for town He think he's wired for town Every way he thinks his wife Jeff Jam You're going on what side is Dave

Is he a cancer? He's a tourist Oh because this nigga is the same way Cuzz don't say that shit Cud It's going on cause Like I ain't going back to jail Cud stop talking like this

Fuck that the niggas But I'm playing me He'd be like, cause, cause, cause, cause, cause you're 45 now we're not to let. Yeah, yeah. He don't mean it. Yeah, that's what he's just playing, y'all.

He doesn't mean it. He's not buying any pounds. Yes, the fuck I am, man. I need this money. What are we doing, bro? So anyway, the deal ended up getting done. So that's how I did this. Do death jam?

No, through Rock. Dane was not letting that happen. Dane was not letting the diplomat Jewel's deal go through death jam. It didn't matter. it was because it was the same money. I went to him first. I went to him before I went to Kevin Lows.

You just told me I need to hold on. I'm speeding. I kept it real and came back to you. I could have let you see this shit when we threw the party. I said, you know, diplomat death gym. I came right back and kept it a hundred with you. But I still went through Rock and file

and all the money was the same, so I didn't really give a fuck. It was cool. So that's kind of how, to answer your question, how I kind of excelled at Rockefeller because I came from Fucked Up Deal and when I got the Rockefeller I just learned I knew what needed to be done that wasn't being done

at epic you know what I'm saying so I'm like boom boom boom you can go cross these cross these dots oh we got free studio a Wallinner oh we're taking advantage of everything nigga that was like going from fucking the orphanage to the penthouse

you know what I'm saying and I just took advantage of the situation right I just want to see this right every artist in the world though every rapper that's been popping at some point in his life

know that when you come to Philadelphia one of these bitches is going to suck your fucking soul out of your body you hear me you're going to be connected to Philadelphia somehow

for the rest of your fucking life That's a fact. Back of the day, Cam come down. You know, and I'm from North, but you used to hear, no, Cam, Cam got a saline out in West. And I'm like, what the fuck? Hold on this niggins from Parlor. What the fuck is he doing with Salad out West? You want to explain?

That's the fact. Oh, you're asking me or you was asking out? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. How you got a saline out west. And ain't no secret. bro is no secret at all so I yo

it's funny no no I'm gonna tell you I met the girl so this 1997 Mace um they um Puff Mace all them doing powerhouse and I just got my deal and I was like I can't go without the car

the call we was just talking about 600 yeah that yeah everybody like can't we leaving it this time but the car wasn't gonna be be ready to like 7 8 o'clock or some shit whatever time it was I'm like Like, no, I'm not going without my car, my nigger. I don't want to ride in the tourbuss. I want to be in Philly, that's an hour, 40 minutes.

I'm taking the car. I get to Philly. I can't get in, but I don't give a fuck. I got my car on my outside. I'm outside of powerhouse. By myself, just chilling. Pop and Dolo. It is bitches everywhere.

It's going crazy. And that's 600. Let me just tell you all, that's 600. See, now you see all these motherfuckers with the car. everybody bring shit everybody got some shit that ain't there it's all right back then that was it

nigger that was the spaceship pulled up in a 600 that motherfucker said 6-0-0 on the back v-12 yes that's a fact like nigga that's the wide body I couldn't even get down certain blocks of Philly you know y'all

streets is slim now with the wide body so I pulled up I'm just outside talking to everything. I'm just happy to be 20 with a 600. Fuck the show. I've seen the show already. Cool.

So I'll see this girl. She got the forest green, Lexus 300 at the time. I'm like, what fuck is that? Boom. Hey, what's up? Shottie.

Oh, what's that? Oh, she's all right. I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to you. I'm talking to your car, right? Bad joint. So she's seen my place. You from New York?

Yeah. Got the number. and it was over straight like that we was fucking around for like off and on because to be honest she had somebody

at the time I had somebody and we were still fucking around and it just got like you said I ended up getting serious I got a hair salon in West Philly

it was called diplomatic hair salon and um she took that nigga's soul yeah yeah she did and that's a fact and that was in there writing raps

yeah that's a fact she Gill ain't lying he ain't lying So that's how that came about I met outside of powerhouse And then we just But before she was getting money In the street too

So that turned me on a little bit more So that shit turned me on Like oh you fuck with the car Oh yeah Oh damn she I Yo And this is the time now mind you But not me huh

We stay in contact But we just talking about You know You don't got as much As you think in the beginning Right So I'll tell her Yo yo

You and me 600 I am about to go do it Oh you are? Yeah yeah I'll be up there, yo, take you a little man, Jewel's, Jewel's learned how to ride in one of her car, she had to buggy

out 420. Yeah. When the Benz's out, give you a little man the car, let him learn how to drive. Then they don't know how to drive here. Take one of the cars, range rovers, all type of shit. She never needed nothing. She had her own bread, and I was like, she was a super duper turn on that. Marjor, I'm coming from New York,

and I'm, you know, I travel because of basketball, but as far as, like, females, it was like, every bitch you turned us on it. You talk like this. Yo, my nick, shut up, man. We used to that. So when you meet a lady, lady, you're like, oh,

bitches is really bitches. You know what I'm saying? They're not act. You know what I'm saying? So all that shit turned me on, you know what I mean? And that's exactly how that went. And RIP, Tuwasa, RIP, our mother, Ms. Margaret just passed away. Her son, Tyree, I neigh, the whole family.

You know, I still love y'all. And I'm still here because we have broke up for, Oh, RIP. Yeah, yeah. So, so, um, we had broke stop fucking around for like 10 years. And then I just got back with her, like, the beginning of 2018. I was like, fuck it, let's get back together. Like, not like that, but it happened.

And then she had, like, a heart attack in her sleep in 2019 in November. Dang, you started to hear that. Yep. So that's what happened. Yeah, the moral story is, listen, let me tell you something. What are you talking about, which far as Philly? That's, that's like the word in New York. I'm like the best head

go to Philly Oh man Not for real I'm being honest I'm being honest with you Like I'm talking about For rappers And be like

Yo go to Philly They got the best head And I'm not talking about Sioux I'm not talking about Philly as a whole You see how he said that With Pet

Philly nigger Cause yo listen Let me tell you something Man My men And I don't want to say No name So so Dane

Dane Dane know somebody Who was dealing with a chick out here I don't want to use no name. I use Dame name. And Dame telling me, he was like, now that bitch's head is crazy, man. Because I was like, yo,

what's the man? No, her head is crazy. I said, oh, you got head too? He said, nah, but I know the way he's acting. Her head is fucking crazy. I've never seen this thing act like this in my life. We got mad bitches. This thing I get goofy. Her head is wow. That's the word. While I'm telling you right now,

for New York artists at that time, get on the highway and go to Philly. No, it's still like that little Tuesday. He was just here. He had a whole relationship. She fucked his life up Put his, put his dick of the diamond street headlock Fucked me up I'm talking about fucking him up

We asked him, he said You did a whole song But you mentioned everybody But Philly's sick as Philly girls Ain't shit He was still mad at him And we called up and everything Right here on the show

But make sure If you don't want your woman To be mad at you Make sure you get some of that pink horse power You know what I mean You go Now While those Jordi's ain't mad at him

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And before we start that, just so y'all, y'all did a great interview with that. And not even part of it. It's the reason I reached out. I'm like, yo, that was a great interview. Appreciate that, man. And secondly, just for y'all out there, no, we, I'm not coming up here because Mace. was up here. We were supposed to do this like six, seven months ago.

He's in Cali. You hit me in Cali, but he was shooting the movie or some shit. Yeah, TV shows. So I just don't want the right thing and I'm picking you back in on my fuck with y'all niggas. Y'all my favorite fucking podcast. We weren't supposed to do this way before about three times.

Right. So to answer your question, you said, what did Mace do for me in the beginning as far as when he first got his record deal? Yeah. So the way I went with this, Mace got a deal. And me and my cousin, It was like me, Mason bloodshed rapping.

But Mason was fucking with this guy named Kuta. And Kuda fucking was teaching Mastor ends and out on how to make songs and bounce and all that. Shout out to Kuda. There's a big shout to Kuda. And they had a Palmer Hunter 3rd where they was like fucking in there perfecting this shit to the T. So when they got the deal, me and Blood was like,

okay, cool, that's what's up. And me and Blood went and got a deal with Freeze Records. and Mace was like, what are y'all doing? Freeze records sound like they burnt you. Those niggas was trash, man. Freeze. Yeah, so the nigger. I can see Mace, man.

What is you doing, Cam? That's exactly what you said. Y'all just should have stayed patient, man. Y, y'all are bugging. So I'm like, oh, you got the deal. We're trying to just keep up. You know what I'm saying? So Mace kind of was off doing this thing for a while.

You know what I'm saying? You know, on tour, traveling. That nigga went triple platinum in a month. nobody from Harlem to this day still ain't got 5 million records on one album you know what I'm saying or 3 million records on one album for that matter um

so Mace was evolving to be Mace and we just kind of was like me and Blub was like all right we gonna do what we gotta do so we ain't speak to Mace for a while and I don't know BFA at the time or none of that shit

we just was fucking doing what we doing and my cousin he died in the car accident and I hadn't seen Mace for about maybe seven months, eight months of the time but the day bloodshed died he came to get me that night we both was fucked up about that shit

and then I started going with him on tour everywhere after that you know what I'm saying? Got out that bum-ass deal I'm like my man died we signed the group don't come on let me out they let me out so I was running around with Mace everywhere and I ain't gonna lie

your press game was vicious he tried to keep it corporate here but his press game was just like he just wanted every old no man let me out man he did me wrong and then it was just like all right can you I'm gonna be honest with you for the for freeze

for freeze records I'm gonna be honest with you I didn't do that with freeze I bought my mother with me I'm a pitiful joint on that one that one was like come on guys I'm just turned because I signed it when I just turned 18 so I was an adult I couldn't catch him with the I wasn't I said like three days after I turned 18 I'm like this like he was 18

and my mom was like his best friend just died guys like I took my mother with me shout out to Virgie G on IG and um they let me and my mom hit him with the sympathy

that wasn't oppressed that was a more please so they let me out and um I went with Mace everywhere you know what I'm saying but he came to give me that same night

bloodshed died and we went everywhere so um you know I watched his interview with you guys and I didn't and he was saying that you know I didn't

the chance to give Kim nothing because I didn't have to bag the niggas thought I had to stand in the third. Not going to be his perspective on it, but I never looked at it like that. I just looked at it as I wanted to do what my man was doing. You know what I'm saying? And I didn't really know that at the time.

I learned that when I got my money because then I made Sprart all four niggas and start being like, there's some things I don't want you to be a part of. Nick, I want to go fucking lay out with three bitches. I'm taking my balls or whatever. Poor. You know what I'm saying? Whatever the nigga want to do. You said three bitches, though.

You didn't have to say Pauls. Oh, yeah. You're on New York Diggas just so you used to say in Ports. No, no, no, no. I'll be around petty niggas. Niggas is, listen, these niggas do anything, man. Yo, turn the doorknop. Oh, that's homo.

Oh, God, damn, my niggas. I'll be around some real petty niggas. So, um, it really wasn't about no money. It was more about, damn, I want to go fuck with my man type shit. And he was off doing me shit. And I didn't understand that till later. so I could do cam shit. When it was my turn, I'm like, okay, this down and the third,

because even when he's talking about in the interview, he's like, it was me, it was me in Cam, me and he ain't lying. It was us all the time, all the time. So when he started getting popping, and he may want to go spin off and fuck with a bitch or take the new car, and I wasn't involved. I might have felt the way like, well, where the fuck I'm going? Where am I want to go?

You know what I'm saying? It was never about no money for me because he, took me to biggie smalls oh shit so I never needed none he gave me opportunity he made some talking about so after blood said that he's like I'm gonna take you to Biggie. He's gonna take me Biggie, yeah yeah get ready

hell yeah because Biggie was starting his own label he didn't want to take me to Puff he's like I'm gonna take you to Biggie him and his man on the label so I'm like bet so he went to he took me to Bigg house maybe a week later and I'll never forget I was like oh I'm in fucking Biggie's house

this is wow you know what I'm saying so big must have broke his leg his leg was broke was broken some shit and he was laid up in the bed with two girls I'm like the fucking dream man you know what I'm saying like this is the fucking rapist of the real rapist dude you know what I'm saying this episode a million dollars worth of game is brought to you by zip recruiter summer is packed with activities so if you are a business owner you don't want to be spending your free time so on through unqualified candidates indeed you can be spending your time at the pool on vacation, barbecuing with friends, or even gardening. You can be doing a bunch of stuff.

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That ZipRecruiter.com slash game ZipRecruiter As smart as the way to hire Big was asking about another rapper What's up with your man? He said This nigga's better than him He's like, he's nice And he was in the process of doing

his new album And I guess it was life after death at the time And he was like, yo, I got mad beats Throw the beats on Back Doing a beat Rap to the beat Switch the beat

Rap to the beat Doing another beat Now the bitch is involved Oh okay, you got something for us You got something for y'all too Okay Doing another beat About 40 minutes

Enough enough enough What you want This is what Biggie said What you want I want? I want $250,000 I want a car I want a crib this and the third

It's done I'm gonna call my man I'm gonna get it done I walk out May said don't ever do that Kim you got a lawyer Don't tell them no I said I don't fucking know

Mace He just took me to big I'm trying to get this money Yeah so he was like I said he's like you spread them And they ask you how much you want Don't tell them how much you want I said well my bad

I didn't know man I just told a nigga would sound a good I thought a rapper should deserve it that time. So when he was talking about giving me something, that was the greatest gift you could ever gave me. You gave me opportunity to feed myself and not depend on nobody for no money. So I didn't get it for, like I said,

I may I ask Mason, he may say him forget. He probably got more memories, but I remember me personally, I only needed $400 one time to get my grandmother a washing machine because it was her birthday, and I got tired of her going to the laundromat, down since her struggling with all the clothes and all that shit so all i ever wanted to get my

grandmother a wash machine i may have asked him for that he may tell you about 17 other times i may i ask them but that's the one that stands out to me but taking me to biggie small's house and me eventually getting to deal with his partner that's that's all i really need the way to feed myself that's crazy it's like that was vicious you know and that's good that you're connected man because you could tell from him talking y'all had real brotherhood like y'all really was day ones together every day. Right. And it just was like, it was just like on some other shit now.

You, you, you had situations, like in between, you know, the entertained epic thing. When was it that you went to Ohio? They said you was popping in Ohio. Yeah, I heard, I heard from a minute you was like the, I don't want to say the king of Ohio because you was from New York. They got gold records in Ohio. Right. So, did you go before Rockefeller?

Yeah. I went before, and before, I went in. In between getting out of Epic and getting with Rockefeller than stayed there when I was with Rockefeller. So I got out of my deal at Epic and it really made me go to higher. I had a son in the year 2000. And I was just getting by and I'm like, nah, no, no, enough's enough. I got a kid.

My mentality was I'm not going to ever let my child suffer. You know what I'm saying? I didn't grow up with father. So that was just my mentality. Like even on my niggas today None of us have filed. We're all great dads, you know what I'm saying? I see you too.

You know what I'm saying? So that shit mattered to me. You know what I mean? So I was like, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I got to do. So I had two gold albums and I got weed and I got on the highway because I had a partner. I had a female tell me about it first

and I had another guy tell me about it. There was no good weed out here or whatever. So I'm like, Columbus, Ohio. Looked on the maps and shit. Like, there's big maps and books. some apps. I'm like, it's an eight-hour drive. I'm going to go take a chance because I had a New York dude I met that lived out there.

He's like, Kim, if you go with some weed, nobody got good weed out here. So I used to go to Chicago. You had a couple dollars, too. I had a girlfriend that I used to mess with in Chicago. Drive there, and I'm like, Ohio's kind of on the way, so I'm going to stop. So I stopped and met up with my

guy that I knew at the time, and he was like bring some weed with you. So I had two ounces, just a smoke. I got there. He said, Y'all got a couple ounces. Yo, give me that. This is like fucking

niggas going on, fucking broches when the lights come on just scrambling for the two-hour. Give me that. I'll take it, I'll take it. And, niggas,

I'll give you $900 for it. I'll give you $800. It was like 400. A house was like 400 times. They like came in. So my man pulled me inside. He said, see, you know, I told you to bring this shit out.

You come out with these little fucking two houses? What the fuck you're going to do? I'm like, I'd be right back. I went back to New York and I remember I was with Freaky Ziki

and we may have had like about 18,000 at the time but one of it I had 8,000 on the side and I had just got a check for 10,000

I said this 10 going towards Ohio for the weed we're in front of the studio we lost the check we're going crazy We're like, what the fuck? We under every car, everything, looking for the check. We just had it.

We walked to the store, that shit was fuck. We depressed for 25, 30 minutes, look for the check. We walked down the block, the wind must have took it. It was like underneath another car. We found it, started dancing, went and bought some weed. But this time you had two gold albums. Yep. And no money.

No bread. 18,000. I had enough to survive and pay my bills. It was in my name. And then so, I was. bought the peas and what I was doing was I look out for a couple niggas

but I do, I get rid of them shits immediately and then what I do is I keep like maybe like a half a pound and just have a smoke party if you want to come smoke with me I would charge $100 and you get to smoke the best weed or whatever the case may be. You know what I'm saying?

So that's why I went to Ohio because I was like I had a son and I was like man fuck this shit man. We ain't that bad we're going to go get rid of this shit, but when I seen them niggas cried, just basically taking the two houses on my hand, like, bring more.

It's like, you ever see the movie blow? And they was like, tell George to bring more when he's coming with. I was coming right back, money, don't even worry about it. You wasn't sure. Did you have to ride through PA? Yeah. You, when you... No, PA, vicious. No, so, like, anything I did dumb or what

niggas considered dumb, I learned a law, because I never want to go to jail. So, riding through PA, When you come over Route 80 You go Once you get out of PA You're in Ohio

And like you said PA is the roughest It was at the time I checked out on everything And if you had three pounds Or less They would consider a misdemeanor And I never sent the car

Or I never got in the car With more than three pounds You know what I'm saying I remember I got pulled over one time And they had a bum-ass dog No just back to the dog I'm trying to be No car, no dogs in that, but I had two pounds, and this girl I was with, I took two girls with me.

I don't know why I did this, yo, I'd say, yo, put these pounds in your back. She's like, why are you putting it in my bag? I said, I don't get, I didn't took the trip on the time. So if you stay, do your thing and stay in your lane and all this shit, they don't fuck with you. Do the speed limit, whatever. So I just put the shit in her bag. I just put it in there, and she's like, why are you putting in my bag? I'm like, yo, shut up.

And no stabs, box, none, just threw it in the truck. So these, it's two lanes on 80 going no higher. They got me boxed in through trucks. I'm like, yo, for like 30 minutes, so I finally get on the shoulder to go around. They called the cops on me. I get pulled over. So the cop comes, yo.

It smells like we're in here. I was smoking. And that was dumb too, but I never got pulled over. So I didn't care about smoking. I said, yeah, we were smoking. And he said, look, I'm going to be honest with you, man. I'm looking for tens of thousands of dollars, pounds of pounds or kilos of drugs or bodies. I said, bodies?

And he said, yeah, niggas ride through you and try to get rid of body. I said, damn, that's crazy. I said, no, we ain't got none of that. They said, cool, my partner's coming with the dog. I said, oh, fuck. So he takes out luggage out, put it on the floor. Dog come and put the dog in the car. So I'm like, I ain't.

As long as the dog is in the car, I'm looking at the panels on the floor. So I'm like, I ain't back. Dog going there, go crazy. And he's like, yeah, I guess he's going off what you smell. You kept it real with me. I'm going to keep it real with you. Which one is your bag? I said, my bag?

So that's my bag right there. Put the dog on it. He opened my bag up. The bitch who I put the two pounds of her back, he started moving. Bitch, stay still. I have, listen, you know what's crazy? This shit, yo. That happened one time I was in the car with Gil, man.

I had the gun at least here. He like this. I'm like, yo, what the fuck is you doing, cut? I'm driving. I'm like, 14. I'm driving the car. He, like, he ordered to me. He said, he tells him to him,

where are you any guns in the car? I'm like, damn, nigga the fuck is the man with you. You're cool? You got the EB-Gee. I ain't know what was going on. Yeah. So, so she stopped moving wild. I'm like, bitch, you have to.

to keep still for I act like I don't know what's going on with you. So the cops said, this is your bag? There's two girls. He said, yeah, he grabbed their bag. Do it in the car. I was like, woo. Start driving.

I start dancing. He said, oh, my God. I said, shut up. We didn't get pulled over twice, nigga. So that's kind of why I went to Ohio because, like I said, I had a son. I was just for a feeling. I heard you was tan at the fuck up out there.

Yeah, we have. What made you leave, though? Ohio. You know, at this time, weed isn't like it is now, you know what I'm saying? You're talking about 2001, 2002, and it was still frowned upon, not by us, by law enforcement, or whoever don't fuck, we, you know? Did the police start fucking with you? No, I didn't, I stayed out everybody away. I was finishing one day.

Like, I have fucking 10 joints and get rid of them to people who just really want to smoke weed. So I didn't have to sit there and go through a house. I would be finished and just relax and chill out and then I end up buying the club and then I had a partner in Cincinnati I was in Columbus I had a partner in Cincinnati that I did a first of the month party with him every month

we make $100,000 every month because you know Cam is throwing the first of the month party and then I would book Kanye I book Gucci Man I look book Little Scrappy when he was like all these people I'm bringing through that they probably would never see right so it was easy

you got to realize niggas fucking me in the Midwest now because you know you got Nellie but outside of that

I'm shouting out towns niggas don't know about Dayton Ohio niggas don't know about they can shout now because you

got Bryce and Tiller and Jack Holland Louisville but they still get in love of that

there's a lot of people like you got motherfuck from Ohio like when I think Ohio I think of like Gerald Lavert

Maurice Corret shit like that right you know I mean right Mauree's correct, that's my man, that's my guy. Like, the Ohio State niggas, they know them, they're my guys. Because I never was a nigga's face doing it.

Pause, I just was more, Kim, it's only one reason you hear. Stop acting like you want to be here just to hang out and be friends with us. We know what's going on. I'm like, I don't fuck are you talking about. But bringing up like Gerald Lavert, that's kind of why I stopped doing it, because it was a cop in Columbus and he was a fan he was cool he's like yo Gerald Lavert

want to speak to him like Gerald Lavert the singer He's like yeah Gerald Lavert the singer I'm like A cop came and told you this Yeah and I'm like For what

Like he was All right cool He's like yeah he live in Cleveland And I'm like Gerald Lavert lives in Cleveland He's from Cleveland All right cool So I got his number or whatever

And Cleveland's kind of on the way Back to New York You could go that way But you don't have to But you can if you want to Go there's something like, I'm going to go stop see General Levert. Fuck it. I don't know what the fuck going on.

So I'm just like, go show him some love or whatever. And because I did, I was actually on a song, Cassanova. We had, like, remix his shit. So I was like, and the nigga just was like, now I got there, he got a bowling alley in this house. He got swings. General Leverch shit was big. I said, I didn't even know you killed him like this.

You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm a fan, but I'm like, this shit looking like Michael Jackson. I said, I was right now. Like, you fucking, you got Prince money? Like, I'm thinking, you know, you think of Joe Leverry, like, okay, good. Good on, B-C. That nigger's shit was crazy in there, man.

And so he said, Kim, man, you're doing your thing down there? I said, yeah, we got the club. We got the thing, you know. You may want to slow down, man. I said, what are you talking about? I'm acting stupid. He's like, look, man, you know, they're starting to talk about you, man. And I got some friends that this is in law enforcement.

And then you need to calm down, bro. You're like, you're good now, but you're not going to be here. I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm still acting dumb. I'm acting dumb. See, like, bro, I'm, okay, I'm, I told you. But, you know, come on on the tour, da, la, because I still wouldn't tell him. I still was acting dumb to him.

I'm like, yo, it's not, I have a club. All right, cool. I just wanted to let you know. You know what's crazy. That's sort of like, it's funny about that because that's sort of like how Gil got got locked up the police came to. He was like, tell us, you know what you could. We know what you get.

All right, well, I'm selling some weed out of it. He just gave him every day. You was more clever than him. Because he told him to sell. When they got him down the district, they was like, we know Tudy is getting the weed in. He was like, oh, y'all already knows. First of all, let's tell the truth about what really happened. I'm just saying.

We come about that drink. You know I'm an athlete. Yeah, I get away. Heavy ankles don't. He on the ground. Gill, they got us. They got us. They got us.

I'm still running while you're screaming about it. That's what I was talking about weed, though. I was in jail when he got popped with the weed because, you know, I mean, but I heard when he, you know what happened. No, no, no, no. We're trying to get big cuss to go to hell with you. When they got you down the roundhouse and they said, we already know, we already know everything. So you're going to tell us, they said, what are you, they asked him, what do you want to your cheese take up?

Can I get provolone cheese? First 48. I get provolone cheese. They gave him provolone cheese. They said, we're going to get your little butt out of your wheat, but you're going to get you something. He went crazy. He went down at 17, right. He made a mixtape down in the, uh, the dishes.

You know, all the kids. I got a story to tell. Boom, boom, boom, boom. See, my wife was getting the weed, right? I didn't know what was going on to one that came on. Yeah, Tudy was getting the weed. He told on Tudy. Yeah, she went to jail with me.

But one thing about this nigga, right? And she stayed in, he got out before. He was a tough guy. You know, he got to jail or 17, right? You know, the kids, they'd be tough as shit to try to go to jail. Right. So as he hit that motherfucking ground, he turned to 17. Cause, where you go on, don't run.

What the fuck is you tough? He's lying on me, man. I'm out of here, dick. Fuck is wrong with you. He's going to talk about, can I get fried onions on there, too? See, he put his whole order, and then as soon as he gets to the district,

he put his whole order. Friday, can I get the- first five minutes? Yeah, can I get the pickles? I want sweet and hot peppers on my cheese stick. He gets the works. But at least when I got up to the county, niggas ain't play with me.

Now, listen, man. That was different from you. Nick kiss you on your neck, niggas. Oh, man. I heard, I heard, hold on real quick, though. Oh, this is also. watch to you by Pink Horsepower. If you are having a bad time in your relationship,

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some of us up to y'all leaving the refrigerator break a case of emergency I'm still good you know I take one just in case I want to go over time one night you know what you're trying to say do it on an anniversary night a spread oh yeah yeah one of the he need that shit on a regular

on a regular Monday every day piece went out on that shit I like that we're going to call that pink horse power a k a 2,200 room nigga that's what you're going to do I heard something about the remix right of what Oh boy

Okay Where is it at Is you ever going to release that? Listen So I don't have Remix Hover did a remix for

Oh boy And um I erased it Because I just thought How you get that Fucking mad Did you erase his verse You ain't want to keep that shit

In the vault Damn I should have I think about Looking back When I should have because shit. So it ain't

no way. He erased my verse. I know. I did a song for P.D. Cracking. Erase my verse and threw it out. So I'm like, I'm going to erase his verse.

But I was just so caught up that you're right. And May said, soon as he said, what is Mr. Petty do? That's the thing cool because I'm very, very petty, man. But looking back, than that you made a great point.

We should have kept it and not even and whether we used it or not. We should have had it, but that's my man. I don't ever want to hear it again. We ain't going to find it nowhere. Erase it. You know what I'm saying? And that was just my mentality at the time. Have you seen

Hoofe? Well, you know, I seen them. We did a concert. So, pardon me. Two years ago, we met with me and Hove Evans, we haven't spoken since forever. You know what I'm saying?

Maybe, what, 12, 15 years or whatever? I haven't seen them or spoke to him. So, you know, Jim works with Rock Nation, and he reached out to me. He's like, Juan and Hold wanted to talk to you. He wants you to come out to his B-side concert. I was like, bet to put him on the phone. So, Juan called me.

He's like, you know, if you wanted to do it, I'm like, I was caught in the middle to be totally honest with you because I'm like, I don't want Dame to fill away. you know dame like the big homies so i don't want him to fill away and i know they was going through their thing but dame had did something on the internet to where he kind of apologized to jasy he's like i'm sorry i miss you you my brother da la la la and i was like

all right if that's when he had cool so i'm like bet man you know because i was like i'm over it but i just don't want to have a problem with dame you know what i'm saying so jac called he's like yo first of all i want to tell you i respect for you and da-da-da-da-da and I'm like same here bro you know what I'm saying like you know shit shit shit ain't no big thing man you know this shit is we're talking about some shit fucking 12 13 years old I'm straight man I just want to tell you thank you for opportunity uh it'll be a great look um yeah he's like and he's like like a while we just sure loved each other

and um we kept it under wraps and the funny shit is you know it was wow so we did the b-side concert so nobody know I'm coming out and Nas came out before me and then you hear the New York City shit and niggas is mad confused in the crowd looking to some of the people's footage like, what the fuck is going on?

Why is the cam so plain? Because niggas is knowing that we don't really fuck with each other or whatever. And the song came on and when I came out niggas lost their fucking mind because we didn't announce it like you know even with Bephyl with murder I don't go fuck he did that

That was cool But imagine if you just The shock value Of A Cam Mace Flyer Or whatever It's good the way he did it Because now all type of people

Like come in And want to do business Etc et cetera But that shock value Of a moment like that Like what the fuck is New York City Doing playing at a whole

concert right now Because I'm looking at Foothies Knicks like scratching their head almost And you came out They went crazy Niggas look Because nobody would have

thought that in a million years right and and and they wanted to see you on hove up yeah right right it never it never happened right you know what i mean and people they grow to not to cut you all but they grow to love a song love a song and they never get to see these people perform the song you know what i mean so and you know even even talking to murder um yeah even talking to murder, it's like same thing with the, with Hove, and I'm

a whole lot more fans than me, but even when I was on the murder, people hate having to pick a side. It's like, yo, I like this and I like that, but people hate having to pick sides, especially in Harlem with murders, like I fuck with both of them. So even it's funny because like even cops in my neighborhood, like, you know, in my

in Jersey or whatever, because you know I'm good with the community out where I live, you know what I mean? So they're like, good I can finally listen to the song New York City again man I wasn't listening to that shit because I know just shit like that when you drive and the niggas run down on you and shit like that so it's like good

because a lot of times niggas of me because of the power hove got niggas will be scared to fuck with you publicly you know I don't want to pause with Jay Jay don't even know your bitch ass nigga what the fuck is you worrying about

what Jay got to say for case I meet him one day shut the fuck up But, you know, that's the type of shit niggas be scared of with Hove, you know what I'm saying? So it was good to get that kind of out the way. So if you go somewhere, people don't feel like, oh, Cam, don't fuck with Hove, this, and the third.

So I don't know it's dope. Even industry people, you know, because they pick the side. That's who I'm talking about more than anything else. I mean, not really street people. I'm talking about, like, if you got got to go to, I'm just taking the ASCAP Awards. Or go whatever. You know what I'm saying?

You don't want niggas being like, well Ken we don't know if you come because Jay is coming and like and even media outlets less media outlets post you because they don't want to right be in because they might because the media outlets you see the same people at all the places they they get a relationship with the people so if they got a better relationship with this person over you right they ain't going to get you the best article right they're not going to give you the best look they might post a picture up where you looking crazy and shit one eye closed and then put the capture whatever they want to put underneath you feel what I'm saying so right you know when

that shit go down right you just got to absolutely just got to be happy when it when it finally reconcile when you like okay now cool now my shit could go right you know yeah I mean at the end of the day it wasn't even about go right for me it was more like I'm gonna figure it out because I don't depend on music to music's a bonus for me you know what I'm saying so after that bad situation in epic and I don't sell no weed and not illegally anyway I still got weed in the dispensary pink if you're in Vegas

make sure you go pick that up at any dispensary in the North Vegas and Nevada for that state for that matter it wasn't even about that it was more about y'all like you're funny I wouldn't even know y'all was like you're funny because you know you see certain niggas who cool with hove and you'd be like

yo what's up and they'll be like hey what's up and I'm like yo y'all niggas I can know scary or shit I ain't got no problem with nobody my nigga like you gotta realize like and I haven't spoke to Jay since maybe the day after concert I haven't spoke to him since but what's Jay done for the culture as far as you know a lot of times niggas say it but they don't mean it but for me when niggas be posting not Jay when niggas are saying for other niggas just for motivational purposes only I get motivated because like I told you I know Jay's before you out of deal and to see him go from not having a deal

to making a billion dollars, even Kanye. I've seen Kanye's begging for a deal. You know what I'm saying? What would you release here with Kanye? Kanye was cool. See, the thing with Kanye, he's a producer. Nobody really accepted him as a rap in the beginning. You was in the studio, Woody?

As far as him rapping or... Yeah, rapping at all the shit. He rap, for me and Jay was in the studio one day. Just, you know, like this. And Kanye just going crazy, rapping in his mind out at night. And Jay is just in this two-way. and I'm like I'm looking I'm like this thing kind of spitting but you know he kind of got the weird movement at the time and it's like I don't know about like it

what's going on man you're a producer but I was like I told down said that kid is spitting you know I told dame Lance that kid is spitting me and dame took the chance on him and gave him the deal like I seen his documentary so there's a bunch of I didn't see all of it I seen the first episode so I know there's a bunch of other hurdles he went outside of Rockefeller even with Rockefeller but just from my eyes he was in there dropping he was dumping in the studio one day for like 30 minutes straight

dumping that nigga was spitting I told him that kid is nice before he came to Rockefeller with the beats he was out at circle house trying to fuck with cash money yeah listen man I was mad to Kanye for a long time until I got the Rockefeller man

um I had a real attitude with him because Before I got the Rockefeller He can play beats for me It's Sony When I had my deal with it's epic And he played this beat for me

And I'm like Oh no I want that one I want that I wrote the song that night I did this song I said cool we're gonna work the paperwork out And get this together Two weeks later Maybe a week later

I hear H to the is O V to the A My nigga used to dribble down in VA It's just the fucking beat You just told me I can have We wrote in the studio that night He gave it to Hove And I was pissed

I wrote the whole song That night everything And he said I could have it And we was getting the paperwork together And Hove dropped it like two weeks later So you still got the song You know what I end up doing that same song I don't have to

To a different beat Yeah It's called it It's a song I did it to actually In Businesses of Arrida Tupac beat. But if you listen to the song

A-T-to- I did A-T-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na- I did Leave me alone Let me just live my life La-na-na-na-na-na-la-lead. Leave me alone.

Let me just live my life. That's to that beat. If you ever listen to the pianos and all that, I wrote it to that. All right now, they paid in full, turning your shit up. Absolutely.

Absolutely. So, paid in full. So, Everybody know the story from Harlem. You from Harlem, everybody knows the story. So I was kind of in the middle of trying to get with Rockefeller as well because, you know, Dame did that movie.

So I'm getting out of Epic. And I wanted to get, and Dave, everybody knew about it. They was auditioning and everything. Everybody was going to auditions. So Dame was like, be here at this time to audition for the part. Da-da-da. So I'm in the house with Jim. And we practiced in the lines of standing third.

So he's like, yo, we got to kill that, man. We need Harlem in the joint, and I don't know. So I'm like, I bet. So I say, yeah, you think I should take the real pistol with me and pull that shit out of the door? Just because it's a part we're reading, and then you got to pull the, you're supposed to have a gun. He said, yeah, fuck it, let's do it.

So I go down to do the audition. Me and this niggas is reading. It's the director, Charles Stone, Dame Dash, and somebody else sitting there. you know that when you do an audition for the movie that's sitting there, whatever. So I'm reading the part back and forth. I'm hearing that guy like Hanoa Wallowat.

So I'm going back before we reading the part and get to the part where the guy out of RICO in the movie pulls the gun out. So I pull, I back out. Yo, nigga, you know, look. Diggas said, hey, hold on. I said, no, I need this part, bro.

Nicky said, yo, Ken, put the gun away. Put the gun away. I'll say, yo. I'm just trying to. I show y'all. I can do this role, man. They said, Nick of Dame gets up, he said, Cam, he's there, put the goddamn, I said, he said, nah, the clips in here, you're good.

So they start laughing, and the nigger reams, like, yo, violence. I was like, no, I just really want this part. So, Dan called me, like, two days later, you say, you might get this part, man. They say, your passion is unbelievable. I say, yeah, that is. I want that audition tape.

I really want to see it, but that's how I got the part. That's crazy, too. You can pull the real street. Yeah, I was bugging. Like, well, I'd be looking. back on shit I'd be like y'all niggas are coming to me and tell me stories and I'd be like yo really like I'm really not that person

man it's funny you had did a post um maybe a couple weeks ago I don't know when it was but I was like he absolutely right he's like niggas don't want to be mad they'd be the money you're like tough niggas don't want this not niggas don't want to be tough nigga

they just ain't got no money they didn't get no money and you mad at everything and it's the guy honest truth I thought I was tough I was too, Tony too tough So I got some money Then I realized I wasn't that fucking tough I just was broke

I was frustrated Life had me in a butt-necked Russian headlocked He kicking my fucking ass As soon as you Okay Because if you're really tough Not to cut you on

When you posted that I wish I could like this 20 times Because if you're really tough You'll get some money and just say Okay fuck it I just want to live in the hood stay right here in the jungle you niggas know I got money

you nicks can break in my house try me at any time you know the niggas don't do that niggas get the fuck away from him finally get to get away from these nishes he'll be the toughest niggas he got a loving body as soon as he gets somebody

I get away from these things yeah thank God yeah man nigga be praying man I ain't gonna shoot them niggas man I'm fucking broke when you post that the other day I say yo if this ain't the truth

it is what it is Like, yo, my nigger, who wants to be mad and angry all the time? Because when you ain't got no money, you mad at everything. Everything. Your girl, tell you, shut up. What you're mad about?

I don't know. I'm mad. You just mad at everything, yo. A prime example. You could be driving in a car, right? Your woman is holding up traffic. Nigger beeped the horn. You're broke.

Shut the fuck up, nigga. We move with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, nigger beat the horn, you got some money. Babe, you're holding up traffic, though. Like, move over to the side. Like, you're doing no competition.

Yeah, babe, you're holding, there's people to hope like cars is behind. Right, right. Just pull over. Right, right. Like, that'd be the difference from when you got money and when you don't got money. Right. You ain't got no money. Everything is a fucking problem.

Right. Like, fuck is. You get an elevator, motherfucker just looking at you normally. They motherfuckers thought I was going to rob him and shit. niggas all scared as shit no nigger they just was just being observant You got some money

You get an elevator motherfucker Look at you look back at them Hey this up how you doing All that I'm good I'm giving you a great example I was I was out to dinner In Vegas

And it's kind of like a business I mean a few of us But there's a female with us And you know She's a fan or whatever So I get in there I got some flashing on so we had you know they're getting the table ready for somebody pop up from the bar

pop up from the ball yo they don't even know who I am they just see the outfit yo what's what is this and I'm like just tell a maid it's cool y'all I don't believe it can I sit with you now I'm like yeah sure now this girl then I went she's like she's white too she's like yo niggas violating touching you and all that man like she's like a nigga sometimes people just don't know how to approach somebody He didn't do nothing that I don't like. It was fine.

I'm not punching nobody in the face because they said, this is nice. They're white. No disrespect. They're white. And I say, you don't know the culture or anything. But sometimes you see some shit and you just don't know how to act.

If I have no money, I would have let her gas me. And be like, yo, what the fuck is you touching me for? You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, you know, I'm fine. It's not a problem, bro. I ain't going to lie.

He 100% right, though. Other races is a lot more friendly and touchier than niggas. I'm crazy. I walk them in the motherfucking places. You know motherfuckers be gillay. Niggas be like gillay. They get your old hand bump. You can see a little Indian boy be, man, I love you.

Yeah, yeah, that type of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, this is my fucking guy. I love you guys. I love you guys. What the fuck on me? Yeah, yeah. God damn.

You grab me up like that. No, I'm saying that's how they be, though. You know, niggins. Many niggas you gripped up in prison. Shut up. Yeah, like, see, but you, it depends. Some people just be fans are like her knowing and don't know what to say. Like, one thing I don't play.

with me, especially like not saying I got respect for a rap, but it's like, motherfucking, what I don't play, I just meet you and you, you give me, we taking a picture like, yo, get the fuck on my neck. You're not looking like you sending me out in the picture. No, like you're my man, you, yeah,

of course we can get one of these, there ain't no problem. When they come automatically, let me get a picture. Now, I don't do, play that, and I don't play you leaning on me on this shoulder. If I just met you cool, if you're my nigga, we could do all that shit. I have no problem. Because it seemed like you, belittling me. I may be crazy or

old or whatever the fuck you want to say, but you're not choking me and on the I just met through seven seconds ago, make it. Right, we're going to be like this. Yeah, yeah, that's the fact. Right, right. And that especially if a nigga taller than me no, no, no, no, no. We don't stop that

headlock. I feel like I'm just, nah, we're good, dude. Right, and you got me, I don't know you got me too close to it to me where you get shut the fuck up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not doing that, man. Next to you, I know I'm in the headlock all on camera. You didn't have told you man to record the shit. But see, niggas do

shit like this, niggas is sitting there like see, I don't know, he's a little nigga. When they get the picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm cool on that. Especially in New York. They did them type of niggas. They play them type of games. They will. Yeah, I just son that nigga. Yeah. I'm saying that. That is a fact. That is a fact. Yeah, I'm saying. Yeah. In Philly, we don't

think that. Right. Yeah. In New York, nigga, because I can get a picture with you, son. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And then that leader, one of the day, you're like, yo, my nigger. Digger right to his man. Just, you know. That's my little man.

That's a fact. That is a hurt. That's a fact. That is a hurt. It's my little man, facts. That's a fact. And they oppose you, me and my little homie. Yeah.

You 10 years older. Yeah, that's the fact. You know, the nigga, um, it was like, you know, even in the club, I give a nigga, I give a nigga my number of pores. Not like that business because you're starting to yell. And the niggas sometimes. you and they don't know what's going on. They're just looking like...

Just take my number of them, man. Because we're talking over the music, be yelling. Hovis said that on this round. He's like, I forget the beginning round, but he's like, I don't talk and so-and-so because people from a distance don't know who is who. Because it looks like,

nigger go over there, and I see niggas do it and go over there showing you mad love, but they animate it. And then go back and be like, yeah, I had to tell that nigga what the fuck I felt, you know? That's what New York niggas do

or at the time. So I just want to ask this. Yes, sir. Before we done. Yep. What the fuck his New York niggas done to the New York women for them to talk like that? Listen. Don't nobody on planet Earth talk to a grown fucking man like a woman from New York.

Listen, man. They vicious, love you don't understand. I think we thought at one time I just told you that a little while ago before I told you all about my Shorty in Philly. That shit was sexy. Do you know who fucked it up, man? When we was younger, I'm going to say for the 90s. And it might have been late age early 90s. Apache had a song called Gangster bitch, man.

I need a gangster boogie. And they're like, oh, sure they got the door knockers on with the band, and little Tims and shit. We was like, yeah, that's why I want one of those. Until you get to get outside of New York and be like, I never want one of those ever again. But, you know, that's a great question, Gil. I can't even fucking tell you

why, because they're still doing it. They still, yo, suck my dick. Oh, nigger, my nigger, suck my dick. They don't go crazy. You're a pussy, son. Yeah, word than my pussy. No, you know how I know you're a pussy. Because your father, with two Fs, too, not father.

Yeah. Because your father's a pussy. And your father's a, no, that's his grandfather. That's not his father, father. I know you won't do nothing. And then, dog, I used to talk to him on live. When I used to go on live all the time, I used to say,

Why the fuck do y'all talk to niggas like that? And they'd be like, Gilly, let me tell you, these New York niggas, gilly, they don't know how to fucking talk, Gilly. You got to talk to these niggas like a nigger gilly because these New York niggas, Gilly, you just don't fucking know, Gilly. Yeah, I'll tell you,

I'm not saying that they're lying, but they, they know, The suck my, I can't take it. Yo, fuck you. You suck my dick, my nigga. I'll be like, yo. And they tell you that shit fast. Y'all be honest with you.

I have not dealt with, I won't say New York. A Harlem female in years. I won't do it. I'm not, if you're from Harlem, you're just my home girl. I'm not dealing with that. I'm not dealing with the attitude.

And I'm not saying that ain't some feminine women in Harlem evil, but I've been too tortured growing up. Dealing with them type of woman then got to travel and see other females. And I love all my Harlem girls. but we're just going to be cousins and sisters, aunties and everything else.

We're not getting in no relationship with nobody from all of them, man. I mean, I love them too, but I don't want no bitch calling me, bro. Yo, bro. Yeah, yeah. You know what's crazy? I see, my own girl, Kelly,

she posts up a day. She said, I'm all fucked up. I say bro romantically and say babe platonically. Like, that's shit is crazy, man. Yeah, I'm telling you, I ain't never seen, I'm talking about, if you got a, if you got a, I'm not saying all women from New York

because you got some motherfuckers but if you got one of them motherfuckers that was bred boy you're a rough motherfucker you can put up with that shit right now trust me look I was blessed enough to be able to travel at a young age

and see different shit so I like I said even the girl from Philly you talk about Tuwasa a man was 20 years old I you know I got out of there. I've been living outside of New York. I mean, I keep my cribs in Harlem with my cousins and everybody else, but

me physically, same thing you said. I moved outside New York in 98. Right in Fort Lee so I could get the Harlem in 15, 20 minutes, less than that. Four Lee, low-key. Yeah, for Fort Lee is, I live literally on the, next to the George Washington Bridge. You get across the George Washington Bridge, you're at Harlem.

Yeah. So once you cross the bridge, you're there. Like, I'm talking about if there's no traffic, I get there six minutes. But you be in L.A. though. Yeah, I was in L.A. shooting a TV show. I got a crib in Vegas. Got a spot in Miami. Damn, you just talk heavy, niggas.

Yeah, not because at the end of the day, I still like to travel. I mean, don't get me wrong. I love, I'm never going to not go to Harlem. I love it, but it's different culture. There's money green all over this. All everywhere. All over the place, everywhere. And you've got to get it.

Yeah. And the bottom line is you're going to get the majority of your money outside of Harlem. It's a fact. A bunch of us. That's a fact. We had to show up the Apollo 20 year anniversary I'll come home, he gave out half the tickets

You know what I'm saying? Because the niggas don't want to pay Which is not a problem I'm going to take care of home I'm not there that much to do shows with the Apollo But I know too many niggas To where I'm going to give it to you Because I love you.

I'm going to give you the sneakers for free The camera on sneakers I'm going to give you the shirt I'm going to give you the tickets I don't get fired I love y'all niggas So I'm not going to make that much money Because I'm going to give shit away There's a lot

You know, it's mad, gentrified so niggas will be like, why you ain't get a store, why you don't got a restaurant? I wouldn't make no bread. Everybody come here, come on. Cam got the lamb chops. It's cool. He got me. Call him.

It's all good. Like, I can't do nothing. And haul them as much as I would want to. I just know too many niggers and they would take advantage of the friendship. Now, before we go, go, what's so on this basketball? Oh, you don't want it? Barbecue baked the shit out of you. No.

See, hold on real quick. This is brought to you by pig horsepower with his basketball conversation. Barbecue bacon is bought to you by Pink Horseball. Can they have your ball game? You better take it. Pink-horsepower.net for the Pink Horsepower. Gilly might need to take some of this before he play. Now, what's going on with you in the basketball?

Let's see him cooking shit. You see him cook more. I see the highlights. You can add it to whatever you want to. He beat Russ. Who are you playing? Listen. No, Russ had a game.

Oh, damn. You were talking about Russ like that. Shout out the Russ. I like Russ. Russ had, like, they played like 15 games straight. Yo, listen, all right, let's do this. Because this was the time I'm there. Who, did you play basketball in high school?

Yeah. He went to Calais. What you mean? I don't know. I don't know. What do you mean? Everybody can vouch for me. No, I'm just asking.

You fuck you're right. So what NBA players you played against, um, in high school? Say, Rashid Wallace. Rashid Wallace, uh, Alvin Williams, Ketino, Mowgli. like right and these people are going to vouch for you yeah it's a pig's pussy pork

yeah so he was nice in high school oh I was one of the first we could Google this I was one of the top three guards in the city you Google the top three guards in the city it was Rashid Bay Sean Smith and Farron Nassir we ain't got I'm just saying I never heard of it

just how they talk about you you had game yeah they talk about me if they do top guards if they do what's the name of that series that just came out Point guards on Showtime If they do point guards of Philly Nick I'm on there

Okay So Hood legend Irry Avenue hood legend So what What happened to the next level Did you go to college? Yes I went to college

Then I got kicked down For armed robbery Hold on hold on That college don't count Yes I'm gonna tell you listen The nigger with the North Philly University

That shit is nothing bro Listen, he went to a college That college he went to My liver room bigger than that college he went to Bro, that shit don't even count I ain't go to lie to you can That shit don't count You're going to go to the scholarship

He didn't have no D1 scholarship You fucking look at That's not D1 What D1 school you had? Ohio, I think Ohio Not Ohio State I think Ohio, the green Ohio Okay

But other than that he had no one He said the green Ohio The bowling green joint I know you're talking about He didn't have the Ohio State Green Ohio No you know The join to say Ohio

It's green Yeah, I know what you're talking about bowling green? Yeah, bowling green He had no fucking So what happened So what are the scholarships? He's lying on me Okay

Okay Villanova they won him Temple ain't winning Drex ain't winning La Salle They're all in Philly La Salle ain't winning Ruckers ain't winning

First of all Nobody wanted He's lying first of all Okay He's a hell of a pickup game Listen, right? You don't pick up game playing? First of all,

I only play organized basketball, nigga. He always hate it on because I'm a hood legend where I'm from. He can't deny that. Listen, I'm not going to lie. Your Instagram post is amazing. You know what I like this. I fucked up. I fucked up.

I said something, right? It was me. It was me, Uncle World Wide West, and we was on FaceTime. You know who he was on FaceTime. Who did I call you with Chris Paul? And I fucked up Chris. I said, I told Chris Paul, I said, Gil will cook you. It was just the heat of the moment.

I want to apologize, let me. I don't even know what God intended, Chris. Well, while, Oval West was there. Oval West was like, huh? I was like, I didn't even know I was fucking tripping. First of all, I will cook the shit out of Chris Paul. No, Chris, I apologize. Killer is ready.

Listen, this is what I'm going to do. I'm not going to lie. You lost your athleticism. Because Jim always hype in the shit I know Jim can't believe Jim ain't doing Curl

See Jim Jim's a power lifter now I know Jim my man I'm there he is He can't play He's too tight To Jim hang with the white boys He wears a belt to

Jim said that Jim said he offered you The one-on-one You ain't wanted Except definitely They don't Me the fucking one-on-on-one I'm gonna dust

Jimmy to fuck off Jim ain't never play tournaments Like when I say When I say play That's why I'm amazed With the other day He's like Every tournament

in high school, like, Jim didn't play school ball and, like, we play real, like... We play real basketball. Yeah, like, like, not just Jim played, like, he's good pickup, but I'm talking about, like, fucking AAU and five-star camp and all that. You ain't play no A-A-U. It's not Sonny Hill, fuck as you talk about, Tudor response. Fuck is you talking about, nigger?

You ain't playing the whole... Niggas. So, I want to ask Gil to go. I'm going to just hit it. You play for Sunny Avenue, not Sunny Hill, nits a fuck out. Fuck as you're talking about. You ain't played for the real deal?

So what happened when it came to Kyle? Why did you go to this? school while I went to Cabrini College Did you ever hear that? No I'm not listening It's like a black ball

It's like a college you want to So I was recruited I was going to a university of Miami Oh he's a he went to a real school What school did you go? No, I went to Navarro It's Navarro, it's the number one

Junior College Oh right I couldn't want the junior college No but you're not listening I'm trying to tell you what happened Just real quick My senior year we was 23 and oh And for the for the season

Lost in the first round of playoffs I never went back to school I was mad. I thought we 23 and, no, we ain't supposed to lose no first round. I never went back. University of Miami

called me because I gave my lot of the intent to that. Cam, where's your SAT scores? You know, that's what's important. That's why I went to Cabrini. Right.

And I said, I didn't go back to school. They said, Kim, what are you doing? What are we going to do about a point? I'm like, I was depressed. I went up in, baby might have a baby at time.

Baby mom, she was in college at Albany. I went up there and saw selling weed. our door room. I stayed in our door room for the rest of the school year because I was so mad we lost. So the University of Miami put me in Navarro Junior College, which is in T.C., Texas Eastern Conference, which is the number one junior college conference in the country. You know, Steve Francis, Charles Kemp. At the time, I went there with 17 NBA players who just went to that, played in that conference before they went to D1.

Hold on. Hold on one question. I got to get someone right. Now, you said University of Miami, is that the hurricane? Yes. Oh, yeah, he went to a real school. You wasn't better than him. He didn't go. No, but they offered him. No scholarship. I got office from everywhere.

How do you get offers from everywhere? You go to a school. Listen, the school that he went to was in a little strip mall. Because the SATs. The shit was in the strip mall. SATs is important. Well, who offered you? What division is everywhere?

You lying, niggas. All you got to do is the ax around. You ain't saying no school. Because it was too many. You a hell of a pickup dog. You're a hell of a pickup dog. We don't. Listen.

Listen, we played ball in the 90s, bro, where the coaches came and sat in the seats with the hats on. Now, let's put this in perspective. I went to the top school in Philadelphia. We sent everybody to the pros at this time, not grads, not nobody else was sending niggas to the pros yet, but us. You didn't go. Ben Franklin, hold on, hold on. And I started three years, man. What the fuck are we talking about?

A lot of people left. There ain't no question if I was that nigger or not. Everybody knew I was that nigger. You knew I was that nigger. You could front for the guy. You went to a guy. He was in the strip mall.

You could front for the cameras and all that. He's in the strip mall. You can front for the cameras and all that. But at one time. I'm going to be honest. Domestatee's count, though. I don't know the situation. Yeah.

Yeah. The same situation. He listened. He was one of little niggas. He was little cugs. My cousin Gil, nigga. You didn't say one division, one school that picked you. you didn't say Miami

or you didn't say Florida State You ain't talking about Georgetown Law and you ain't say Seed Hall Because bro If you was a real Let me just say this St. John's. Let me just say this He knows this

If you was a real Listen if you was a real Player like we was Nicker any day you walked in You had stacks of letters Yeah I get you can I say this Can I say this? Hold on, hold on Every day you walked in you had stacks

I was just telling me about the letters Especially if you went to a school That was prominent I just told you Ben Franklin was the most prominent school in Philadelphia, even though at the time, Gratz was the number one school in the country,

and they only beat us by four points. Let's talk about that. That's a whole different thing. Can I say one thing? Hold on, hold on, right? So when you walk in and you're getting letters from everywhere, junior colleges, D-1s, D-2s, you don't understand, Lowe,

because you never was a high-quality athlete. I was. You was just a high-quality thief, and you wasn't good at that. Let me ask you always got caught. He got caught at 11. He got caught at 12. One question, though.

This is going to kill everything. Watch this. Did he went to jail for 20 years and 17? Can I ask you one question? Can't. He wasn't even good. Can't. This is how you know it's fucked up.

His high school that he was the shit at was like three blocks away from John Cheney in Temple University. And they didn't come looking for him. They didn't come. John Cheney didn't come looking for me. You was three blocks away. For me to sit here and argue with you about who came and looking for me. John Cheney didn't fucking talk.

I was one of the top guards in the city. That's something you could Google. You could just Google that. I know, but you wasn't strong. You ain't got to say, it's going to pop up. You know what was better than you. Nica. Riz was better than you.

It's going to pop up. Riz is a time of Gris is better. Ask him. Oh, you got to do is asking. He just played on the number one team in the country, but was he fucking with me? Fuck, no, Rids wasn't fucking with me. Cotino Mowbley was better than. I'm going to barbecue.

Baked the shit out of kids. cat, man. The fuck is you talk about. Latino Mobley went to the league. He didn't. He was playing for the Houston Rockets. He was playing for a lot of years.

Houston is. Let me just tell you something. We have a problem here. Anybody you saying, I'm telling you, they got barbecue baked, man. So it's two things. I just barbecue baked Catino Moble in L.A. two weeks, three weeks ago,

nigger, and Chris Paul. Hmm? When you say barbecue baked, Chris Paul, what do you talk about? Barbecue. He was on one team. I was on the other. I'm sorry. He was on one

team? No, no, no, no, no, no. He lost, Chris Paul was 0 in 3. I put it on my Instagram. Okay. I said, Chris, you sent me to sleep a bunch of nights, mad because shit because you killed the 6ers, but nigger, you're 0-and-3 today. So what do you mean? Oh, 3? How this went? When it was a tournament, one-day tournament?

No, we was playing pick-up ball, and I sent his ass home three times. Okay, got you. I thought you meant so. So look, this is what I'm saying. I'm going to get a shape and plate. I ain't got to get a shape. You're in shape. You're ready, you ain't got to get ready. No, you're right.

But, but, look, you're older than Tim Duncan. You're older than Kevin Garnett. What are you doing this for? Like, that's, his revenge, too. That's why I said, he's on the wild revenge. Because I got let these young niggas. No, but I want that's why old niggins out here, their barbecue, no, that's why I'm glad you told me because I'm like,

yo, because I didn't know. I really wanted to know. I'm like, you must not a play in high school. This is some revenge shit, but now I know that you is all sitting. He was washed up. He didn't miss it. Only thing I like to do is, play basketball.

Right. You feel what I'm saying? So I always did that over the years. I never stopped. You feel what I'm saying? Because that was my first love before my wife, anything, you know what I mean? Nigger, you know what I'm going to take me long to get in the shit I need to play because when I play you, we play with we play in three dribbles.

You ain't going to do all that. Yeah. It don't matter. However you want to play. That's our pro-nickers play. How ever you want to play. And we're going to put a 30-second shot like a good. I watch you.

You like to hold a ball after you score. talk when you play with pro niggas I'm talking about today three dribbles and that way you ain't going you'll like to do 27 dribble but I'll watch you now I get my shit off on Tray Young John Moran

Joe Moran I'm going to get my shit off I'm just going to say I can guard them niggas because I can't I'll lay you I will lay you I will get my shit off I will lay you 100,000 to year 10 that John Morant will fucking cook

you no he will if we listen All I'm saying is, if we don't play, if we don't play, make it take it one-on-one, and I get the ball every time he make a shot, he's probably going to beat me 16 to 6. John Moran? Yeah, I'm going to get six, seven, eight points. Don't let me, because. He's going to barbecue. I'm not going to really be able to stay in front of him.

Nobody can stay in front of him. He got too much shit with him, but I'm going to get my shit off. All right, before we get last. No, just hold on on the last thing real quick, because I wanted to say this. Was Mace better than you because he said he was? No. Mace was better than me. Mace was better.

A lot of niggas from a time. 11 years old or 15 years old. And niggas just started getting a little better. Mace, he said he beat me last time he played. He might have. He talked about at the Reebok gym. That's after niggas had deals and all that shit really wasn't playing.

If you're talking about high school? But Mace came off the bench behind you. I started. Mace came off the bench. And Mace was older than you. He said, yeah. older than me, yes. No murder.

Yeah, no murder. How we know murder? This is what's the last thing, basketball for me. This is what I'm challenging you, too. And it's not part of me. And we're going to see, because, listen, I've seen a little bit of Chris Paul. I didn't know Chris Paul's there, but I seen you play in your arm came out of socket, like a broke chicken wing nigger.

One game where some nigga hit you for football player. Next year, give you all the heads up. Big three, you get a team in the big. You get a team in the big three That's niggas your age A little younger You could do your million dollars games From the big three

And you get a team And you go against these niggas You just got out the NBA And I want to see what you're going to I'm not saying you won't bust the ass But that's a real test I'm gonna keep it all we real Let me hear it

None of them older niggas That played in the NBA None of them older niggas Can't fuck Well then go win the big three I'm gonna tell you why They legs too beat up man They played too many years on them knees.

Cam, let me take something. Can, you got to stop this shit, man. You got to stop some of this shit with the basketball, bro. You got to stop, man. Listen, Kim, I'm not talking. Listen, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You got to stop this shit, man. You got to stop this shit, man.

Listen, I'm not talking about the niggas that just retired. I'm talking about, like, the older older niggers, that's my age. They can't fuck with me, can't. Because they play too many games on them knees. The knees don't move. I beat my 23-year-old son in the race. It's on the gram. Then I beat my 26-year-old brother in the race.

You are in good shape. That's on the gram. None of them niggas is not running like that no more. You know, before I got across the niggas over me. For a year who couldn't run, who wasn't fast, couldn't jump down on nothing? Paul Pierce for years. He's six, seven, though. I'm not talking about, for you.

I'm talking about a nigger. Don't because you faster or quicker or whatever. And my jump are more silky. Listen, but if a nigger. I ain't going to get none of that I'm not to get my shit off. You, listen, man, listen, man. See all the dribble now I'm talking about,

that's what three dribbles are playing. That's just my plan on three dribbles. This is what we're going to do. Yeah. We're going to say, we're going to take the cameras to the court. Cam ain't never coming. Man, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, not. Cam and Meis is talking shit.

If you want us come to the barbecue featuring Cam and Mease. Let me invite a bunch of everybody. Listen, my, my, nobody heard of you. Yeah, I mean, I'm more, go to show, go watch me a show, time tonight basketball documentary they do those documentaries on Philly

they talk about me Iverson, Rashid Bay motherfucking they're talking about motherfucking they talking about motherfucking Rashid Wallace they talking about motherfucking Randall Turner they talk about Poo Richardson

they talk about Randy Woods They talk I'm in there I never heard of you I'm in there I've heard to you the Graham came out I'm in there Once the Graham came out I heard of you That's what I'm saying he ain't no game

I'm saying Cam I never heard of you to you said you had game back in the day I was like on case who who can't have a game. Well, no, man. That's why they called me for me. Maybe you played at the guard because you played in New York, nigga. Because we went to the chip. Oh, so you know I played at the guard? Yeah. Oh, okay.

You've been scouting me. Okay. I'm going to say, you've been scouting me. All right. I'm fucked up. I'm cool, man. Play as fuck up. Most you know, okay, you've been scouting me. Play as fuck. Now, I will admit you very good for

for being older like me. We're the same. Major, you're in great shape. I want to see Big Three, and I think it'd be great for y'all's show you go play three, four games. There's no excuse you can't miss work. You can't miss work. You'll make some bread while you there. Listen, I promise you, if I play three games in the Big Three,

they're going to want me there permanently. Well, listen, man. Don't cut the check. $1 million worth a game, can we, thanks for having them. Horspower, get your pace, right? Make sure you go pick that up. It's all natural, no drugs. Straight from Africa, Black-owned business.

Pink hyphen horsepower. Dot net, go get it. I just want to tell y'all two real quick. I'm very proud of y'all I know I know that you did 20 years in jail and coming home and getting right to the business and hustling and not crying about being in jail and saying, I'm going to figure out a way to get it.

I love it. I remember you have posted something maybe a few because I followed you all too, my favorite to follow pause. You're posting something you said, I mean, I spent $1,500 on this phone, I'm spending $5 million. I'm like, that's the attitude you need to have.

So I'm very proud of you. And secondly, Gileam, I'm very happy and proud for you Because this is a nigga who know how to rap And never really got a fair opportunity And had to sit there and watch niggas who can't rap Get popping And just sit there and not hate on that So for this to be your second act

And it's successful and it's dope And y'all got a fucking awesome show I'm super duper happy for both you guys, man I just want to tell y'all niggas that I just want to give your flowers man Just for being one of the great. rates and this rap shit and surviving over decades, man.

You know, not too many motherfuckers. You got motherfuckers that came out that did 10 million copies, five million copies, four million copies, and them niggas ain't around no more. So, you know, for you to be around and be the businessman that she is and doing all the things that you're doing, we salute that, man.

You know what I mean? As well as salute and wallow, man, you know what I mean? Being the 20 years in jail, all the shit he had to go through all the ass slaps. Yeah, I mean, the pensions. on the ass we salute you man you know what I mean

you had it rough in there man all the night you had to you know lay in a bunk with a nigga you didn't want to lay up with you know

we salute you you had a rough place I cooked you about that basketball you I cooked you I cooked that dick

you know me we salute you man so uh when you're all in about make sure you'll pick up some pink horse

yes sir and it's just like that right Thank you.