Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 185: FEATURING SAUCE WALKA

Episode Date: September 18, 2022

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Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. Right. Splash. Y'all ain't know what type of shit I'm on. Y'all already know what time this shit is. Fuck the motherfucking nonsense.

Smack a nigga with a palm fist. Knock his iPhone out of his hand. Drop his son kiss. On Mix, walking red This a block 40 on it But it's a nine in the head This you both of them I'd be having modified guns

Transform something to set the cun Every day I'm walking with a weapon on Stepping on Louie Gouet Whatever that is TSSB business sauce walker I been that kid That did Made a cup of million off of that bitch

What's a name? Don't matter Nick a motherfucker the fame My bitch not Brianna but these platinum dollars put on the bill Boy shit's all your problems The bitch's a genie You are just a weaning May back truck 21

That's how you seen it Home heart bein' But I ain't got no love Trapper house after clothes We ain't got no drugs That's how my chest is Headshot everything in the car Fuck some bestsies

Back flip kick martial Off a tech in a webbing Niggas better duck when I step in Guard here Sit down the church and stand And guard be a respect nigga It's to yourself about that check nigga I have a crib with a 30 seat

Walk your neck, nigga Walk with two years In the game It's still a vet Nigger I'd made some broke niggas Rich up in the Jets nigga real life

Tell me what that struggle Feel like Street's so cold Pop Sickles Don't want to feel ice Street so cold Throw some shooting dice Hit him with the nitrogen

He never saw his wife again He liked the win But be with losers You want to play with Tim Duncan Or Carlos Bruiser Like a hit of Avanoova Through the haystack Since way back

Since eight checks My mama been breaking tricks for eight wrecks Since so many muscle-haired niggas shot in the apex Trying to beat Damien won't never lift the weight again Don't shake the pen and die free That these little niggas ain't got nothing for grease A lot of the Goliath is weak When that heat come out

What you think of nothing wolves when they come out The Irish Seed make my beats come out Sots walking in this city and the streets come out The streets come out Listen, man The streets is coming out No, just for the record He asked me a question

In the middle of the rap But I want to play with Tim Duncan I don't want to play with Tim Duncan Carlos Bruising This boy man You tell me

Listen man You're now You're now tuned into Mimimimimimimim Million dollars worth a game Yeah We got Texas In the building

Houston that is Owee They're in the building Sauce Walker He's, it's, I'm telling my, Dr. Dr. Dr. Jip's going down. He went in, but listen, man, we're going to get straight to it, man. It's your boy, man.

Before we get to a go-in, man, tell him who we bring this in. Hey, man, the kid they did, man, Sauce Walker, the Salker, the Splash of the McDassahs to make the bread come fast from Hill of Alaska, extra pastor the master, it's the kid they did, the one they didn't. The reason why the source word was written. O'ee, Splash, Jee, Suss Walker, Tears his business, you know what I'm saying? The preacher, you know what I mean? O'ee.

We're in the building. Houston. Tell him who this was presented by, you know. Man, this presented by the one and only, man, million dollars worth the game, man. You boy, a wild love if you don't know, and my boy's spilly-gilly, straight out of Philly

and don't leave something silly for really. You know what I'm talking about? We, you know what I'm talking about? We're doing this for the streets. We're doing this for the youth. We're doing these people that want to learn the truth. You know what I get some education for the rest of the nation through this conversation.

That's what it's about, man. Who else we got to build a man? The president, baby president, huh? In the house, man. I'm up here just supporting the sauce, man, dripping the sauce. I'm out of California. That's where my brother found me at, but guess what? I'm in Texas and we're dripping real, real hard.

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Now, I appreciate y'all. They gave me one of my first rap checks back in the day. When they first started out, man, shout out to New Amsterdam, when they came to Houston back in the day, they was working with this DJ Coalition called the Go DJ, DJ, DJ High C. I made a song for them back in the day, man. It's just dope to see them doing their thing.

Right. See, y'all broke bread with Saul's back in the game. And I was young. I was a young boy, too, man, about 18, 17, one of them. Talk to them, Sauce. You know, I know it's a lot going on. Absolutely. Speak on whatever you want to speak on.

I mean, you know, I'm just here, you know what I'm saying, to be a good representation, though, you know what I'm saying, young black entrepreneurship, you know what I'm saying, intelligence, strategy, you know, mastery of the internet, understanding the social media and how to utilize it to, you know, generate not only generational wealth but also residual income and passive income for myself and everybody around me through music and just through you know monetization and social media

marketing now let me just say this that's what i do you got 13 motherfucking foreign cars no for sure like i'm just keeping it real because let me tell you so i knew niggas that new niggas that no dickas you hear me and i had to call down to you so i said let me ask you question, y'all cool what's on? Yeah, that's my man. I know it. Listen, man, I mean for our cars that nigga got. The nigga said 13, man. Yeah? I said, what the

I said 13. By one and one, probably by one off. By one or two off. By one or two off. So was it 12 or 14? For sure, we think, for sure, without a question of a doubt, we 13 cars over $200,000 or at least over $150, to half a million dollars, for sure.

What's your favorite car? Because I didn't see Listen I didn't see Fucking all types of Rose Royces with pink seats I didn't see you take a Rose Royce apart In the fucking parking lot Yeah for shit shows

Just to prove a point Like I was like They had to know Because I thought it was a game I'll be a person I was cracking the fuck I said this is the craziest nigga That I ever seen

In my life He fucked up a $400,000 You know what I'm saying You know it's one of them Old Hood Sands They know it's renting when you do whatever in it, you know what I mean? So, you know, when you destroy a car and take it all the way apart

and then reassemble the inside and redo the leather and do we talking $30,000 a letter that already come from, Rose Royce, it's kind of like a disrespect or a disgrace to, you know, undo their perfection, but it didn't match the color scheme. And, you know, what I represent, you know, all my cars is pink, everything about me, you know what I'm saying, has a sense to it. It represents something, you know, and I'm a lot of the different artists in my label.

got different colors that represent them and like through jewelry, you know what I'm saying? I represent this paint shit because that's what it all came from from the womb, you know what I'm saying? The womb changed my life. Before, when I was born. Now, I'm definitely going to get into the label, the artist, how you handle

business as, because you're not on a major label. You got your own thing going on. Independent. But before you get into that, describe Houston to the world. What is it about Houston to make it a special place? man Houston is like Houston is like a place

that got the pride in the hip hop culture of New York that dates obviously not as far back as New York because New York is the mecca of hip hop

and that's where it started but from the very beginning whenever New York made hip hop a way of life for black people around the world

Houston picked up on it immediately so like from way way back in the 80s even before I was born early early 80s like right when it first popped off the rap lines came about and the screw the pliques came about and things like that DJ screw used to come to uh new york to go to

the uh DJ uh championships that they used to have out here he went against the greats like the uh funk master flexes and grandmaster flashes and things like that they would have DJ championship outside here and DJ screw one two two of those um tournaments out here in new york DJ Screw. Yeah, so, you know, like, we got the, we got the history, you know, of hip hop going way back then with the ghetto boys and the, the suave houses and the screw-up clicks and all up into the switch houses and things like that. And then also as well, you have the rich culture and lifestyle of the people in Houston. Houston has always been a place with black people and just people of the urban culture, whether you black or not, Hispanic. We all make a lot of money and we all are integrated.

it in with each other like we all grew up in the same communities the same ghettos the same hoods eat the same food we use the same slang of terminologies with each other and it has the excitement and it has the fun and the constant activity and the beautiful women of a miami you have the but these are black women with the bianci body you know like the the whole bbL thing that's like a new new discovered item to the rest of the world we grew up like that like we've grown we grew up with women having zero waistline with a huge butt and nights of volumptuous breasts. We grew up with women like that our whole life, women being thick and volumptuous and beautiful. Like, that's been since the beginning of the time.

Houston has just been one of those places in the middle of America that's at the bottom of the South world. We touch everybody, culture, we're a hub. Like, everybody, you have to go to New York at one point in time of life. You have to come to California at one point in time of life. You have to come to Texas at one point in time of life. you doing great incredible things in some way entertainment music women something in life business is going to bring you into houston so we have it's just a lot of opportunity and a lot of fun activity going on out there and it's a lot of black dollars being recycled amongst each

other that's a lot of ownership a lot of people have businesses a lot of people have cars a lot of people their own businesses have jury and it seems like it's a lot of structure too it's a lot of It's very structure. Respect. Respect. A much of respect and structure. Much of respect and structure. Everybody knows everybody.

Even though this is the third, I mean, the third biggest city in America, Houston is the third biggest city in America. It's still a place where amongst two to five million people, everybody still knows everybody, even before social media. That's how the DJ screws and the suave houses and the switch of houses and all of that was able to become multi, multi, multi millionaires within the Texas circuit. within the region of Texas because your audience is just so much larger

than the average person because of the hometown spirit the Hispanic people are not against the black people the black people are not against the Hispanic people we all call each other niggas and homeboys and all that type of shit so we all listen to the same music we all love the same culture we all like the same type of rooms the same type of

old school cars the same type of women we buy the same jury we all get diamonds in our mouth so even if Still with the person having a complete Hispanic background and upbringing, you still go through the same exact struggles and the same exact understanding is the black people in your community, just like somebody from New York is very similar. Like the Spanish community and the black community still, we all populated in the same areas and in the same project communities living on top of each other. Even though this might be our area, life is still going to cause me to go through our area and life and integrate and deal with y'all. And there's not no separation in Houston. So when it comes to women, you don't have that, you know, some guys they had that stigma

or they have their fear of talking to a woman that's outside of their race or you're not used to have conversations with women that's not from your ethnical background or that we might not have the same subject matter to talk about. That's not necessarily coming in Houston because everybody, you play sports with these people at some point, and it's chilling, y'all did sworeth at the same places. We go to the same clubs. eat the same food. Everybody goes to the same turquillette because it's very integrated

so you don't miss out on anything. Everybody go to the same places to ride on four-wheelers and mudding and like even Houston is a place where you can do all the big city stuff that goes on in the Miami's and the New Yorks and the Atlanta's but then you still get to do the hometown wholesome outdoors

stuff that you might want to do in Kentucky or Seattle or Kansas or something like that. You know, a lot of field and terrain. It's just a lot of do it's like to do a lot of women a lot of good food great food let me say this man we were speaking earlier right and you showed me some some shit you know in your phone you like gillie you know i got 47 artists yeah for show for shit show you know and you like you know you show me you know your distribution shit and yeah i'm independent man independent nine years in the game

independent record label i have 46 artists signed to my record label uh and you show me how they make money every day and how you you know you got 50 50 splits with them so they get their money you get your money they never got to ask where they money yeah they go straight to them yeah you know and you got all that shit in your phone right and you just showing me all of this shit and how okay this artist made this much this much this artist made this much this artist made this much this artist made this much and it's like you really out here doing that shit

on a on a serious level man right for shit show absolutely well to start at is like I'm from a place where in Houston Texas being the city that it's from we like I said we have a rich history and music a big part of that

history is being independent artists and being independent staples and you know trying to keep as much of the residual income coming back into the ownership of the artist as possible, but at the same time, a lot of our artists have took risks and signed major record deals as well. But I was one of those people that studied just hip hop in general and studied the game. And I always kind of puzzled and troubled me how some of the greatest artists that had some of the biggest albums in the world, we're talking

the likes of, you know, the greats, the T-panes and the plazas or just, you know, whoever, anybody you could think of, just great artists, Twitters, whoever, that had platinum artists and history, you can remember off the drop of a dime but after a six seven six seven year time period they're not living the same lifestyle or they're not it seems that they're not having the same frequent income coming in as they did as the heyday or the prime time of their career and that never made sense to me because i always understood that music is business so just because i'm an artist and i'm performing and that's a performing aspect of me being an artist that doesn't mean that I should not be paid for the rest of my life for making music

because music is business and music is business that goes on 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, seven days a week at every given moment, somebody is playing music, streaming music, listening to music or some way so I was just a person that I never understood or respected the fact that to get to certain levels in the music industry I have to sell the ownership of what I've created as an artist because music is art

music is for some people it's spiritual for some people it's mental for some people it's all it's by money and financing and entertainment but at the end of the day I understand that music is something that's forever and if you create something that's forever

that's making money and getting played forever you deserve to be paid for that forever if it has a fair base of people that wants to is. So I'm just not, being from a place that shows Independence I try, I've had multiple record deals offered to me from the likes of the

Inascopes, the Atlantic, the Columbia's, JZs, multiple different people from people that I respect or that I look up to or people that I respect their legacy and music. But at the end of the day, I also understand that

if I don't make the correct business decision, and I sell off my stock, I sell off my ownership, I sell off my rights, my masters, my albums, these are movies, these are homes, these are, this is, this is like, if you look at a neighborhood, each album is like a property that you own within a neighborhood or it can even be a apartment building and each song is a different unit within this apartment building. So I'm a person that if in business, everything is within a 12 month span and then a 10 year spend. So if I sign a record deal to a record label for a million dollars or two million

dollars and I'm hot for two years, three years tops while I'm doing 20, 30 to maybe a hundred thousand dollars shows, what happens the eight to nine years after those two, three years of me being the number one hot topic? And I feel that that's a thing that a lot of artists don't plan or they don't think about because they don't plan to get older. I don't know if we live in a new generation and everybody playing on Dines Soon or not seeing

other ages and other levels in life but I'm a person that I come from a place where we have a lot of legends

and they're still doing their things so I see people at 40 years old or at 38 39 and then you have fans and other artists

that look at you like why you not still bawled on like when you had that one song what happened to the damn

homie in high school you was the man homie the fuck happened to you I never want to be one of those

people so I understood that with this independency right here with the ownership, these right here are all the artists that signed to my record label. What's that app?

There's not no app. This is a distribution portal for, I have three different distribution portals with three different distribution companies that I distribute my artists. And that's the dashboard. Right, this is the portal. This is dashboard. You can click on any one of these orders you can see right here.

They're missing like 10 artists right now, but it's like 30. Talking to Mike. Oh, we're missing like 10 artists, but it's like 34 artists on this list right here. You could click on any artists on this list, and each different artists got a different level of streaming from YouTube, certain many millions of views coming from YouTube, certain many millions of views coming from Apple Music, Spotify. They show that money on there, too.

Exactly. And it shows the money that you make and conglomerate with the views that you're getting and the streams that you're getting. So instead of looking on Instagram, seeing how many people liked your picture, you're looking on here seeing how many people like listening to your music and it's paying you for each stream but once you sign a record deal

nine cents out of ten this is all out of the window because this is what record labels are trying to sign you in a record deal for to get this because most record labels are trying to they're going to put the marketing and the advertising behind you to make you a bigger artist for the time being in a moment to get you

big concerts and shows but if you're not an artist that stands to test the time and makes it pass a five to ten years span of people reoccurantly want to purchase and buy your music, you're going to have to find other avenues to make money to live the same level of lifestyle that you was living when you was the number one artist in America and you're not living off of music anymore. Now you're living off the fact that I became a celebrity and so many people know me now

I'm trying to sell you this product. I'm trying to sell you this item, but I'm a celebrity superstar musician. Why is my music, even if I do want to sell you a product or item, that's fine, but I still should be able to live a sufficient lifestyle and a great lifestyle off of music. even if my ass is still sitting down. I shouldn't have to come and stand in front of you and jump up and down and do backflips or do interviews or I shouldn't have to perform

just to make money in music. And unfortunately, before the independency came and the internet came, that's really what every artist in the music industry was forced to deal with. And the difference in that is to say is if a person like Will Smith had to sell off his rights

to Fresh Prince of Bel Air, whatever movie they did he, did when he was the robot and the first movie that he did with Top Gun, Top Wing when he was the pilot or Independence Day, I think that it was Independence Day. In order for him to get the bad boy contract with Martin Lawrence, yeah, yeah, we're feeling

Hey, Will, man, we love everything that you did. Man, you're a great actor, bro. We love you, bro. But we got this new thing we're going to do when you and Martin, man. And we know Martin got his own sitcom and you got your own sitcom, but we're going to make a trilogy movie. This is going to go all the way to the 2000s. We're going to pay you 10,000. million the movie first movie that you ever got paid 10 million at this time will smith

ain't never got a 10 million dollar roll in his life the most role he the most money made and roll two million dollars one million dollars eight nine hundred thousand so ten million dollars is incredible leap so at the end of the day but he's already earned that from the streams and the views and the love that he's got from having a fan and having box selling off his films but in order for him to get the bad boy contract you have to sell us your independence day rights you have to sell us your fresh prince of bell air rights and you got to sell us some more rights. But you still going to get 20, 30% after we make the $10 million back that we're giving you up front, after we make that back plus interest, then you'll be able to get

your percentage back from your old movies that you already got paid prior to you ever meeting me and want to do business with me. That does not make sense. Okay, if that doesn't make sense to a viewer out there, look at it like this. If I'm a business owner and I created Walmart and in the midst of me creating Walmart, I decided that I want to make 7-11 and Wawa's. Now, by me making 7-11 and then Waiwis, Amazon wants to come by a part of my real estate

and a part of the businesses that I own. But they only, through conversation, I've only been talking to you guys about selling y'all, my gas stations. I talk to you guys about selling Waiwis and 7-Eleven. These are two entities that's generating $500 million a year

from both of these properties. This is a billion dollar property. But y'all telling me the only way that child would do business with me and buy these two properties is I have to say, y'all Walmart as well i have to give y'all the 30% 40% equity 50% equity in walmart why so basically you telling me when a lot of these major labels came at you they

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three four months or whatever like that because some of these artists never make it it's called a recouping it's called to recoup I'm a person I'm from the streets I don't to recoup it's to pay back a front it's like in the dope game I owe you some dope I gave you some shit of front

and you owe me back a certain amount of money. If you don't pay me back on a certain amount of time, I'm going to cut off the water on you and whatever that means. So at the end of the day, I don't never want to be in a person that's in a disposition that I am taking away the blessing

and the ability to make money off of my music and off of the ownership of everything that I've created as a musician and as a content creator and as a composer where certain people don't make it to levels in life where their music is making.

their money. And I understand certain people actually do need the boost and need the help from record labels to get to certain points. But if you're a person that can create an audience and create a fan base and create residual income and revenue off of music, you got to look at everything from a 10-year span, like I was saying earlier, in the 10-year span, if you have an artist right now, he's in his two-year prime, he's making a million dollars a month or he's making $400,000 a month and spurs of $20,000,000 shows. But his music is making a million a month, $2 million a month. So he's going to have a

two, three years span that he might make at the end of the year, he might make two or three million dollars at the end of the year. His music just made $20 million that year. Let me ask you a question. Ballpark figure. There's independentsia. How much you make a year? Ballpark figure.

I probably make like 200, like 240 to 280 a month. So whatever that is times 12, just on the music side. That's, oh, you just talking about just on, oh, that's just right here. Just off in the phone. That's just in the phone. As you see, I'm showing you, I'm clicking on, it's 36 artists right here.

It's 36 artists right here. I click on any artists on here. Anybody name is going to be some money pop up to them. And it's in the thousands. And it's different platforms. That's what a lot of artists don't know. You getting paid from each one of these different platforms of different revenue of money.

Your YouTube check has nothing to do with your Hulu check. That has nothing to do with your Spotify check. They ain't got nothing to do with your Amazon. Amazon Prime check, they ain't got nothing to do with your title check. And then you got the United Masters and then Apple and all these different. And then some of these different things have different levels that you can pay for premium. Then you can pay for YouTube Red. Then you getting paid for this person got Apple Platinum subscription.

So he's paying an extra $35 a month to get all the extra shit. And you're his favorite artists. So these are extra amenities and pluses that you're getting paid out from this. these streaming companies because these streaming companies they don't care they just want to pay directly to the consumer and directly to the creator so in in this new world that we're living in if you making music it's easy to get your stuff on like a CD baby or one of these distributors a tune call something like that just to get started and then once you get to another level you search for distribution so that you can reach a wider audience but at the end of the day

in my circumstance I get paid two times a month I get paid once a month for being sauce walker the rapper then I get paid once a month for being sauce walker the CEO So it's, it's, you got to think it's right, it's like in the space if I had a YouTube company, like how y'all, a podcast, a person in the streaming, I got 36 YouTube content creator signed to my label, and they all do YouTube channels that's all syndicated to me that we split the revenue 50-50. Now, in the benefit of these artists, though, I don't charge them or I don't take no money or no percentages off of their performance rights.

So, I mean, any artists is signed to my record label, if somebody wanted to pay you $15,000, $20,000, $30,000, and $100,000 for a show, me and my record label don't make no money on it. If somebody pay one of my artists $15,000 for a closed, a sponsorship endorsement, we want you to wear this particular item, or we want you to be with Coca-Cola tomorrow,

a million-dollar contract, I don't make TSA, don't make no money off of that. If they go do, if they do a feature song with another artist and they charge that artist a performance to do the song with them, I don't charge their artist money for to do the song with my artists

nor do I hold against them what's called a clearance fee with the record label they have the right to clear the record so even because an artist can be in debt with me I'm the record label owner if I've ever did any level of investment or marketing or

advertisement I have the right as the record label to hold those funds against the artist's residual money or money that they come in the money that's being generated from their streaming and their music so therefore that's how you keep an artist in the hole to a certain extent to where you don't make the money off of the money

that's being made off of the streams and the plays from your music worldwide because you constantly taking money and lending and borrowing from a record label. So every time you take in advance or every time you get to reject, there's $30,000 or you get this feature from another artist is $100,000.

Not only are you paying for the performance right for their artists to record the song with you in the studio, you also have to pay the record label for them to allow you to sell the song. It's not just about the fact that they own the artist is about the fact that they know that we just put the $100,000 or $2 million, $3 million to making this artist Hulk Hogan in a rap game right now

and you just pay him $15,000 because you called him on a good Thursday to do a song and he took the money and did the song or $30,000 to do the song. You're still going to get $2 million in marketing and promotion. So from the record label standpoint, I get there. I understand it. But at the end of the day, y'all are still stopping this other artists from flourishing.

Exactly. Let me ask you this too. So in me, before you just get that, in my situation, I own 20 albums of my own personal, personal, my own personal, my own personal albums in my calendar, I had 20, 22 albums in my car, because I remember I was in South Swans and then the Sauce Walker. So of that group, I got like three to four albums in that group, and then I got like 2015, I mean, like 17 or some shit albums like that, that's of my own. That's just me. And then I got 36 artists in each, not all of my artists have started streaming and dropped the album yet, but majority of at least 25. to 27 of them are streaming. So if each artist got two or three to four to five to ten albums

and each album got 10, 15 to 20 songs on it and each song is generating $100, $250, $355 to, as I show him, you got certain songs that's doing $5,000 a month, $2,500 a month, $2,800, $1,900 a month. And that could be just the audio. We ain't talk about the music video. So now you got this one music video for this same song, this music video doing $3,500 a month,

but the audio on this is only doing $2,200 or $1,500 a month. We go back to the neighborhood. That's still two houses in your street and your subdivision that's passively paying you $3,000 and $2,500 a month. Yes, sir. You know how much money you got to spend on the home in the neighborhood to get paid $3,000 a month from it? Maybe what, $400,000?

$500,000. You've got to spend $500,000. The average artist, it didn't cost you $500,000 to record an album. Let me ask you a question. Would you take your joint venture? You, stop blowing that weed in my freaks. That's freaking. That's some freaky shit you on, man.

You're up late night. You're trying to get you high. That's some jail shit. Stop that shit. I don't know. Now, penitentiator rules in the fake. Penitentiaryl in the fake. We're up in a while out now.

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Without the catalog, yes. Only without the catalog. I don't mind doing business and working with record. I don't have nothing against record labels and a lot of record labels change the lives of a lot of people what I care about

is the end game I don't like the fact that a lot of these artists don't understand the end game and they look up at these others some of these artists that used to be great or used to be good

or used to be so on and so what and so forth and they have so much negativity to say about them like it was the artist that made bad decisions be like it's my legends

people I look up to like from New York and shit like that like a Beanie Sigel being a single supposed to be rich as fuck right now regardless of what Every decisions he made in life is bad decisions.

You've got music that's doing so well and doing so much of memories setting hearts of people in the ghettos or in America, you still are supposed to get a little $45,000 a month. 60 a month. You know what type of lifestyle people can live making $60,000 a month off of their music when they're 45 and 50 years old,

you still getting a $60,000, $70,000 check, $100,000 check from your old album. This just me being modest and saying light numbers. For some people, it's three, four, five, hundred two million and crazy shit like that you get nine that's why a person like young doth was able to say i can say no to a 22 million dollar deal because we probably already getting two million dollars in money so all you're trying to do is give me two months two years two years or maybe two and a half years or where we already generating a one year and we're doing one point three

one point four million a month we're talking about every 30 days not the um not the publishing what's publishing is the check that comes uh three three every quarterly it comes every three and a half four months out of the year you make that for radio tv tvs You know what I'm saying? That's like if your song Get put in some shit That ain't got nothing to do With regular streaming services

But that's called a publishing check You only see that check Four times out of year How are you gonna live Bills come every 30 days All right Let me ask you this though Because I understand anything you're saying

But what if it was a licensing deal What if they came to you for a license deal For two years Where they're just Hold listen They're just licensing Your catalog for you No ownership

And it revert back to you The license and deal Only last for like A year If the finances were serious, because you remember, you're licensing. You're not passing over ownership. All that shit sounds like licenses. It sounds good, but it's never, it's never that.

Once you allow somebody to get in that catalog and have some level of ownership, especially when you get to the percentages, yeah, it could be some licensing, but you only get out of the licenses if you make the money back. You still have to give, the money has to be made back that was given up front. The only reason I'm saying this, is this, Walker. when you look that's all I'm saying you got a lot of people

they take pride on owning these shit but they owning their shit and your shit might own these shit not saying you and they shit might be at a 10 but the label relationships and partnerships with other people

could take your music sink it anywhere and can take that shit from a 10 to a 60 based on a relationship and I want to say this because you get somebody you established

it's different a lot of people will listen to it and be like oh I got to own my shit homie you might be owning your shit that ain't rocking

and ain't doing nothing. I'm going to say like a great person like Jay Prince told me you can own $100 of $100 or you can own $10% of $10 million that stuck on me for the rest of my life some of the most smartest, respectful, gangstabit is savvy

that I can take and I completely understand that and respect it. But at the end of the day, if you do not have the capability of generating a catalog

that's making money or that's doing well, yes, you should explore the option of allowing a record label to put you in a better position. But at the end of the day, I believe our artists need to learn the information and learn the language so you can get yourself in a position to what you can, what's called, separate the catalog. That's what people don't understand

because you don't have to sell all of your music just to get into a greater situation because once you license anything, that music is, You might as well separate yourself from that music for a long amount of time because at the end of the day, so much money, you took money up front. No matter how the situation, even though I'm licensing and I'm using it back, okay, you got to live off the money that was given to you up front. Now all the money that comes from this point forward,

your physical body has to be there to make the money. You just was in a situation where you had money coming in off of this music. But we're going to make you make way more money, take it to a whole different stratosphere streaming. True. But what's wrong with the artist keeping that old cataloguing that old music that's not even worked that much to you as a label anymore anyway because it's not when it first came out.

This is all shit. So at the end of the day, if I still own it and then I sign with you as an artist, is what you saying, I would do this licensing with you for all of my new music. I would do this license with you for my new albums because that puts me in a position where now I'm like an NBA basketball player

or now I'm like a movie star where you're paying me for what I'm doing right now at the moment with you in the business that me and you are creating together. Not nothing that I previously did. Therefore, if what goes on with me you fails and it crumbles, I'm not held in responsibility in this position. And my triumphs and my past and my career are not held responsible for a new business

adventure or a new album or a new song that I did with you that didn't go up to the capability or didn't go up to the sales of the standards that you had set out. Yeah, but that's the flip side to that coin too, though. Because if the label gets you right and they say, okay, we only go on take the music, that from here on out right okay so now they take the music from here on out sauce walker and his whole record label go from even the niggas that was doing two hundred dollars a day now they doing something different right okay right now they take sauce walker in his whole team and they blow these motherfuckers up even more they take you from

10 to 60. Now they're saying, as a record label, okay, we're going to take you from 10 to 60, maybe even take you higher than that because how this shit go, it'll be an artist that you wasn't even expect that I have a song that it take off. He had the biggest song on the label. Exactly. It was the smallest artist. It might be that one song, but that motherfucker did six million motherfucking streams, right?

Okay, cool. Now the record label is thinking. Okay, now we're going to take you We're going to upgrade you And your whole team But the flip side of that is now All the old music that you got out That shit going to stream like crazy

And guess what's going to hold on Wait, hold on And we ain't going to get none of that money No, no, he's talking about you don't sign away You know, that's what he's saying Yeah, so the flip side is the record label Like we're going to blow you up but in the process of us blowing you up

all your old music on stream 2 and you're going to make a shit load of money over here what if one of these songs pop off on TikTok and now one of your old songs that was an older song now people catching on to it because we put more light on you and now this motherfucker go three times four times platinum

we ain't got nothing to do with that man so let's do business on this song now because I still credit this song before I met you The song was already in the process of doing what it was going to do. I can have the same opinion that you can have about that you or the record label that signed me to take me to the next level. I can go through a situation in life. They have me on million dollars worth the game and I'm the next level. I can go through a situation in life.

They have me on CNN news and have me on the next level. If I'm a hardworking artist, if I'm a comedian, there's comedians that get on social media and they have that one moment where they're just doing videos of being funny. And then next thing you know, they're standing in front of the crowd of 4,500 people or 2,000, 3,000, 4,000 people. once you create a certain level of traction and a certain level of engagement through music and social media having a fan base, you're already outside of that conversation. Right.

Now, let me ask you something. Okay, can I ask you one thing? I wouldn't ask you this bad. So I respect you. And what's wrong with that? Ain't nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying the flip side. I'm just, you know, there's always a flip side to each coin.

So, you know, I'm just giving you the flip side of it. But one thing I got to. I say is I respect you as a motherfucking hustler. We've been kicking it for hours before we film. We smoked it. We got to hustle.

Yeah. And you whip your motherfucker phone out. Yeah. And you say no, Gilly, I mean millions of dollars off Only fans. For shit show, the real ones. Right? And then

you like, no. This is one of my girls right here, Gilly. This is what I had to pay in taxes on her last year. And it was a major stunt. I'm talking about it was a major stunt. Anything South Walker say, man. He said, this is what I had to pay on her in taxes last year, Gilly. And to my knowledge, it was $318,000.

Really, it was $269, but you paid that shit late. Yeah, we're late. You made the shit. 40,000 in lay fees and another 12,000 and was called a quiet interest. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the nigger shit.

But I'm like, this nigger's one of the best ones that ever did it and got away with it. Best they did it and get away with it. You know what I'm too legit to quit it. Yeah, I mean, I said, I said, you're a bad motherfucker, man. Hands like Casper, yeah, you know.

Yeah, me. Only fans is great. Then you start breaking down love and shit and shun. No, I got one that, you know, she just smash your feet and cake. You know, she did $2.50 last year. Damn, what the fuck?

Yeah. Then I got another one. No, my main one? Yeah. She talked crazy to my man. What she tell you? She told you, nigga, you need a loan nigga. I made $1.8 last year. So, I respect your motherfucking hustle, man. How many

fucking girls do you got an only fan? Up under my management company. we got like eight different, eight different models, you know what I'm saying, in and out, up under the management. Well, you say management. What do that mean?

Like how, like... Sauce bunnies. I got like a little, like this little, a little management firm where we do like what's called sex thing, like the text messages for OnlyFans models, you know what I'm saying?

Because some of these girls they don't want to actually take out the time to talk to all of these different people that's in their DMs, asking them for videos and requesting things like that. So it's a group of women that, you know, just know how to talk to people

and stuff like that and get these girls to have some regular time throughout their day. to do regular things because they have these large fan bases of people that want to interact and engage with them. So they make the content, they make the videos, and they just turn them in and, you know, we just

like a distribution company, you know, help them with the posters and the marketing on social media, filming, photography, pictures, and shit like that. You know, I called them the sauce bunnies, you know, what I'm saying? At one time, you was like, we pimping, right? You know, I've grown in life,

and, you know, I became a businessman. I've been through, you know, my mama was and was the exotic dancer. I was born in the back of a strip club type of person. What was your best pent blind? Man, it's so many.

It's so many. You know what I'm saying? The best one, the best one is better than the less one. You know what I'm saying? It's to get off them hills that come jumping these high wheels, you know what I'm saying?

For real, because you're out here walking and you're supposed to be out here flying. You know what I'm saying? You're walking, you're supposed to be rolling and holding. You know what I'm saying? You're supposed to get with some dripping

and get away from that slipping. You spear me? You know, because you back of the day before I met two I was a pimp you know how to be I was a fucking pimp I come from the pimp in first of all

first of all come on cuss let me just tell you one thing that I don't front do not fucking say him in front no do not front you know big cuss had all the bitches that you can sit here in front

I even introduce you to some different kind of bitches that you never met before come on us to say here front because you know my game was platinum in 111 countries you know some of my best Some of my best shit I tell a bitch

I take you from the front of the links to the Golden Gates, yeah, yeah, for shit show it's on this motherfucker, two things what bitch can tell me and that's nut team. Oh, yeah, talk heavy, you know what I'm saying? It's only one thing a bitch can tell me, no. Yeah, me. And I ain't got no problem with it, bitch, because I, you know

what, I used to tell a bitch when she told me no. Oh, bitch, you end up winning lottery tickets, huh? Yeah. Bitch, you just hit the you just hit the lottery, bitch and ripped up the ticket. You know what I'm saying?

We're trying to make a beginner or winner, you know what I'm saying? We're trying to make a beginner a winner, you know what I'm saying? Make some shrimp home a chicken dinner. You know what I'm talking about trying to lose into a choosel. You know what I'm talking? You know what I'm talking about trying to trash bag into a cash bag. You feel what I'm saying? You know, see, Walo, he got no game.

Look how he's sitting here soaking this shit over again. He's saying here like this. You do got to put your finger in the ground and turn the world upside down to make baby girl come around, you know what I'm saying? Put on their crown. you know what I'm saying put this game down at the end of the day

at the end of the day you know what I'm saying women doing it to women doing it to me already know your favorite shit and I love I love women I already know his favorite fucking lot because I give a pig a wig and give her a gig

so shit show look he tried to act like that some planned up game I ain't even going to say that but I will say that I want to ask you something sauce right when did you become comfortable

with yourself because you got energy that most guys from the street culture they too cool to have are they too tough but you're real uh you know you're electrifying you're exciting for shit you're i mean you captivating when did you become comfortable with yourself growing up because you know it's harder to get them like i told you i'm a fucked kid like i just told you about my mama is exotic dancer my mama was a stripper my mama's all my mama brothers is pimps and players from chicago my uncle is like scorpio

june bug like these are my real blood uncles from chicago and so my mom Mama was a very outspoken woman, and she was very intelligent, just smart poetry, shit like that. But my daddy on the other end, he was an athlete. My father was like a football player and a wrestler. He tried to, like, he almost was in the WWF, like, he was in the WWW, but he never became like no superstar, no shit. None of you niggas ever played with my daddy on WWCD Smackdown.

No you niggas never played with my daddy on Nintendo 64 or Nintendo or his PlayStation. He never made it there for us, so stop the antics in the bullshit. my daddy was a security guard after he made his attempts to become a professional athlete and it didn't work out for him That's crazy. You know what I'm saying? But that's real life, though. That's real life, though. Like, I grew up seeing and meeting all type of celebrities and athletes and the rocks,

Duane Johnson's and all. My daddy was, like, cool with them. His story is really similar to mine because my daddy was really like the nigger that started a lot of shit behind the scenes in the WWU, but he just never made. His partner was this dude name, oh, man, Johnson. If you're a real wrestling friend, you know this dude. He was like how me and my brother is, like, we're the South twins. Like, my daddy was a part of a group at one point in time.

And, you know what I'm saying? They end up getting into it with each other And it's back before cell phones And all that shit So, nigga, if you got this one plug They got you in with Visiting Man And this is my boy at the man This is my boy at Visiting Man

And me and you get into it And I don't keep bringing you to practice And keep calling you, it's over with You know what I mean It's over with I ain't no more TV You know what I'm saying Yeah

Back to security job In the front of the club Shout out to Papa Sauce And I'm gonna tell you this Shout out to Papa Sauce though Because he still man Shout out the Papa Sauce And I'm just want to say this man

Shout out to Papa Sauce sauce because Papa sauce and Wallo got something to come and Wallo was wrestling in prison. The fuck out of it. Yeah, they called him Dick Flynn. God damn. No believe that bullshit, man.

Nah, that's okay. Is that shit? Nah, I know Wallo was up in there punch a motherfuckers down. No, I actually wasn't. Clean up the cell. Clean up the cell for you come up here, take your shoes out.

I was in Lennie and that. I was actually, well, I was just chilling. You know what I was doing my thing but now that we talk about it we're going to stories from the cell now sauce stories from the cell you used to be out there in the field

you was in prison absolutely how was that life in the field in Texas you know in prison y'all had to work and y'all was like no that's not how stories from the cell go tell us a crazy story that happened to you or you something

you witnessed while you was in jail man this is a million days and million nights but I could tell you one thing first time that I seen like a riot in jail was like part of one of the most like horrific realizing things that you go through in jail because like when you go to the penitentiary because you know what I'm saying I was lucky I was one of the people that I had bad bad cases and I violated all my probation but I was still young like 19 18 type shit so in Texas they got this shit called shot probation where we're going to send you to the penitentiary

and if you fuck up you gotta go through like school, high school, all that shit but you still gonna be in the penitentiary with the big boys with all the murders and the killers and all that shit. But then if you do all your shit right, you can get an F56, F5,000, F5, 8 and you can get back out and get your shit reinstated

but you still have to go through the penitentiary. So I had a little money. I was already having girls and doing my shit rapping. So when I caught my case and I went down, I was still had like hopes in my mind like, okay boom bitch, I got to do the wrong. right shit and this whole

I don't get the little bitch ass class out the way because I can get my time I can read I can get my my shit reinstated I can get my it's called giving your time back

so um I end up saying a ride down now and they caused us in the um the comments like the cafeteria and they send the smoke barns through that bitch

because niggas got to beating each other up with niggas fighting in that bitch or whatever long story short so when they hit the smoke bombs in that bitch that motherfucker get ass and when they first

happened. Nobody bring out the weapons and shit. Everybody's just fighting and hitting each other with trades and shit. But when the nigger come through with their gas, the officers close us up in the cafeteria and they shoot their gas. They shoot the gas. Foo! Foo! So boom, you know what I mean? I'm catching a while. I'm doing my thing up

in there fighting out because, you know what it's a ride going. It's really like racial shit, black versus white, men's skin. You know what I'm saying? This be the one time with bloods and crips kind of like got to come together or something because it'll be somebody else. Basically when the rides pop out is when like somebody been waiting to get up with somebody that they couldn't catch in the hallway or

we couldn't catch on the boat and that we were waiting to catch you a child, whatever so big, when you finally get up with them and then people pick their time for when somebody else, you know what I'm saying, set off a disturbance. Now this one, I'm going to go get my move on the nigga. I've been wanting to get up with type shit. So it just set off a lot of chaos and it went when the gas

when the smoke went up and I'm seeing these big ass niggas come because this test is bro in the penitentiary. The average person is 6, 5, 6362. You know what I'm saying? Nick been up in that 20 15 years. He yoked up. Swole to the motherfucker So when you see them

Weapons and the knobs come out And they shoot their gas Now I'm seeing them big niggas maneuvering through that gas Coming through Like a movie with their thing In his hand And that was like realization

To my mind like damn Bitch I mean this whole Yeah My head shade I'm baldhead saying TDC Everybody that go to TDC And get a TDC I offend this call

You gotta get your head Shade ball head And you go What's called Through processing and transit and identification unit. I was on an identification unit. I went to Bird Unit, Holiday Unit,

and then I got shipped after I went through Bird Holiday Unit and Wade, then they sent us off to what's called East Texas where you go to some shit, MTC Henderson. So I had to go through all of these different stages of the penitentiary, you know what I'm saying, to get my time reinstated to where I could go back to the freeway and go to the halfway house. So when you go to the halfway house,

you'll be there with like federal offenders and shit or people that went to the penitentiary murders or whatever, they got their time back, whatever, so big, whatever, you go through, you get your shit back. So with that being said, during that time, I had to work out on the whole squad. It's just a lot of different shit I had to see. Well, you feel, me, when you work out in the host squad on holiday union and shit like that, that's when you go out in the grass and everything that we eat, it grow outside. Everything that you eat in the cafeteria, it grow outside.

And when you're working on the host squad, you can't kill no snakes. If you got to move out the way, don't get big, you get in trouble from going past too far. And it's just a lot of shit that come with it. If you don't do it, then you get rid up, you get, you know what I'm saying, get your privileges took from you, you know what I'm saying, you get put on restriction, you can't go to, you can't go to, you can't use the phone, all different type of shit to come with it. So, motherfuckers said they're trying to get work passes, clip passes. It's a lot of, it's a lot of shit to go on the pen. It's down there like the free world. Sometimes you feel like you're in the, sometimes you feel like you're in the project.

Sometimes. That's crazy. Out of all that shit, he said, I couldn't believe he had you in there with a baldini, man. Yeah, everybody, everybody in T. Love with me and you full. Man, Patricia, everybody that go down there, you got to get your head shave. You gotta go to a bitch. You got to go to the CDC.

You go through one of them classification units. You're going to have to go down there and take their ID, and everybody got to get their head shape. You know, get your head. You're just mad as a bitch when you get your head. Yeah, man, and the bitch, I seen plenty of niggas up in there crying, telling them that religion. I'm from, I was up in there with a dude.

He was from the Bahamas or whatever. He was down there. He was like, bro, this is my religion. He's begging and crying. He asked him to can he send his dress home to his mom. mama and they're like no because you got to have stamps and a lot of people when you get sent from the county to the penitentiary they don't let you bring your stamps with you you know what saying you're like some people get looking they sneak them up whatever the majority of time

they make you throw away all your stamps and stamps is like money you use the stamps to do everything in there you can get all type of shit from stamps you know what I'm saying it's like real money even though motherfuckers got real money but this is like a real money it's a dollar so at the end of the day you need stamps to send your dress home hey we ain't let you send home shit it's over with throw it in the trash. I can't imagine they get locked up with a head full of curly

shit. Shit all. Some time they hear you backwards. He's getting there. They're going backwards. They're going backwards. They're going to get that shit

about it. We're going to be in you backwards. Now, who is the best way for you to define? Who is Salis Walker, man? Sous Walker is man.

Man, there's how many. words but you know i just i look i don't know you i mean you know i look at myself as a genius i look at myself as a black god i look at myself as a leader and a and a representation of it's okay to be yourself and be confident within yourself and it's okay to be willing to gamble and risk on yourself even when you're going against some of the greatest entities and the greatest people that's doing the same line of work that you're doing because at the end of the day being indifferent and being consistent and hard working

will always outshine the bullshit or outshine competition who has a greater platform than you because at the end of the day hard work and consistency over years and years of time because at the end of the day as people say we get into this music industry

for what money right we get into this shit the shit to do what take care of your family you do this to do what have opportunity and financial freedom for yourself and everybody that you love. So if a person gets into this music industry or gets into entertainment and you get to a point where you don't have financial freedom anymore, you looked at it as a failure, you looked at it as a fool, you looked at it as an idiot, you looked at it as all different types of things.

And I never wanted to be one of those people, not only to be that, but I never wanted to teach someone else to be that, knowing that I have the capabilities of being someone's idol or someone's motivation. and me knowing that because I was motivated and also let down by some of my kings

or the people that I looked up to growing up because I felt in my mind he was supposed to do this or he should have did that or he could have been this way or why he didn't help us or why he didn't help this

and that artist now I'm in that position where I'm like those same artists that I looked at so it's like I try to give back the opportunities and the knowledge that wasn't given to me

and give the opportunity to bless you the opportunities that wasn't given to me through music and through knowledge it ain't just about you doing a song with me or you paying me for a song or me signing you to my record label

even if I could just teach you and enlighten you and make you make a better decision on your record deal I'm not a person that's out here telling the artist not to sign record deals that's not what I'm saying what I'm saying is is understand the language understand what it means and try to carve out a space where you keep

your catalog or you don't even include the part of your catalog before you got into this agreement or to this level with this artist you know what I'm saying that's just what I believe in and I just want to be a person that you know I can't save the world and all that shit

I'm doing what I'm doing the car with my own way and doing my own drip but I don't mind sharing that knowledge and showing people that this is why I got these millions of dollars and this is why these artists can't keep up with me or why I got 15 cars and four mansions and houses all around America

Miami, Houston, Las Vegas and all these things is because I did it the hard way that's the thing about it that we're trying to teach this to the young men that's growing up and coming into masculinity and coming into business

and trying to figure out that way that it's not, the shortcut in the fast route may not always be the cash route. It might not always be the route that makes you last. It might not always have longevity to it because at the end of the day, I've been in the rap game for nine years now.

I'm on my way to being 10 full years as a celebrity artist. I got out the jail in 2013 going to 2014. That's when I came home. I came home in, uh, I blew up damn near immediately. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, as soon as I got on from jail, I started, after the trade day shit, when I got home from jail,

I started to drop music and do my thing with girls and social media. Because when I came home, like, three of my girlfriends that I came home too, it was like, bro, just look at this Instagram. Daddy, like, Daddy, Instagram. You need to get this. Daddy, you need this. You funny. Like, you crazy.

You need to be on this. You need to show them how you be dressing every day. So I did something called 30 days of drip, and this would begin the sauce This is how we created the sauce Because when I came out at Sauce Walker Sauce Walker, sauce didn't exist It wasn't, the world wasn't dripping

The world was turned up And piped up and swagging And swag and Everybody wanted the jug And finesse everybody was trappers It wasn't no dripping It wasn't no pimping There were no pimper

In the South that was young It wasn't no, even on the West Coast At the time Like being a rapper Represented the ism that's not that's not something that you see a lot of young artists do now you see a lot of it

because it's more acceptable like rapping about scamming and shit that didn't exist it's a certain group of artists that ushered that end to the hip-hop industry I'm a person that ushering in the dripping and the sauce

in and the splashing and making it a lifestyle and a religion like we really I really believe and live off the energy of the sauce so you know what I said

that's what the ghetto gospel come from right let me say this right you know sitting down and talking to you and you being a young and you know you're out here doing it for real you know

13 foreign cars you know that ain't even count no regular cars 200,000 dollars a month residual off of music you know you got multiple houses I see houses in Texas

I see houses in Miami you know and from the time you've been here you've been putting me in while up on game. You know, you didn't gave a few game. Only fans, on their bands.

You don't got to just be on that doing that shit. I already start, Gilway started a feet page on only fans and show his feet. And just step on stuff in his feet. No, because I got some other feet on, I got some couple. I got some couple. O-e! I'm ready to start helping him. I already start helping this guy right here.

Hey, man. How are you good friend stepping some cake on camera, man? It might change your life, man. Get the hell out of it. I ain't put my fucking touch. I want you put your feet in jello and stuff like that. You know, that as thing. See, the fact that you can even think of that type of shit.

I'm just saying, I'm going to do the page. You know, I said that. You know, I said anything up, I got it. But, you know, I've seen you out here on the internet and you be going through it. You know, you be having your issues, man. And I just want to tell you, you know, man, you're getting too much money. You know, the stage you're at right now, man. Anything that you can go through with any of these artists, man, that shit don't even matter in real life because you win.

you already won the race and even the niggas that you I see you going through it with I don't know how serious it is but them niggas won the race you know what I mean so you know for two niggas that won the race

to be having a disagreement you know in this world where rappers seem like they targeted because this generation lose more rappers in a year than we lose in a decade you feel what I'm saying So, you know, I just want to tell you, be conscious of what you're doing

because you're a real-life businessman out here. For sure, you know what I mean? And you got 40 fucking six artists up under your belt. And if you just so happen to go down or something happened to you or, you know, you can fuck with a lot of people money, man. Absolutely. There's a lot of motherfuckers depend on you. And I respect you because I see you show a lot of motherfuckers love, man.

All around the world, too. You know what I mean? And all the ghettos all across the world. You're showing niggas love. You, you're hustling. You're getting your money. And, you know, you show them motherfuckers that you ain't got to be on a big label. To be a millionaire.

To be a millionaire. And that's what this is about. You know what I mean? That's why you're healing me and I was worth of a game because I respect your hustle, man. Thank you. We respect your hustle. Yes, we do. I appreciate it.

You know what I mean? I appreciate it. And we like, that nigga got something to say. You know what I mean? saying because he's coming from a whole different perspective where he just got distribution and he relying on him for marketing him and his team for funding for funding you know to provide the content and you know there's people out here that inspired to be that and they needed to see in real time that you know you really making real money off this shit yeah you might not make the

money that future make or drake make or but you know you're owning your shit and and And it's a marathon It's not a race You know what I'm saying And I don't know if they own their shit They might own their shit too But I'm just saying You own your shit

You know what I mean So You know Keep going up man We salute you man It's a point we're coming to though But you know I just want to put that on your mind

Because you know Robbing young nigs out here It's dying man You know Rest in peace to P&B rock That was a piece of rock That was our little bro You know what I'm

It was unfortunate and tragic And I'm gonna say this to you man Saw's walk is a prime example of Once you discover you and you find you, you're going to be cool You don't got to be perfect You don't got to fit in the line with the status quo What society say you got to be In order to make that shit happen out here

You just got to find you He found him Be yourself He found him and he stepped with it You know, he step every day being himself And he out here crushing on the business side of things And everybody can't got to fuck with it for you to win Stop thinking that everybody's going to rock with you

And if they're not rock with you That don't mean they hate him It just might not be their thing But he's a prime example of All you got to do is figure you I'll be you And you can go to the top You ain't got to alter yourself

For any crowd For any audience You could just be you And that shit gonna go And that's what he's doing man So I salute you for that And I see what you're doing for Rizzo I see what you're doing for a lot of artists man

Right You know what I mean And uh to me I always look at life like you know like a ladder a process the process of life is like a ladder

you know what I mean and when you up here you're always supposed to reach down and pull somebody up absolutely you feel what each one to each one right and the farther you go up the ladder you pull somebody up further

and they all come up and step with you so when you go down eventually somebody comes up to the top but you still connected to the top. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? You still connected to the top. And that's what life is about.

And to me, life is not just about you getting about the struggle. Because God can bless you to get about the struggle. But who did you help get about the struggle after God helped you get out the struggle? Absolutely. That's what I'm saying. And I see you whip your phone out and you got it. 476 artists 36

however many shout out to the whole TSA business man shout out to the whole TSA business man and you showing me one by one at all these niggas

and all these Mexicans and even white kids I see you yeah I got all the sign from every different demographic of the world you're showing me

that all of these kids that come from nothing and even if they come from something they got a dream you helping them make money off of their dream. Absolutely. And it's not a greater gift in the world

than a motherfucker that's making money off of something they love to do, man. Absolutely. It's not a, so I commend you for that shit, man. And I just want to tell you, brother, we love you, we respect you. Thank you, brother. And keep going up, man. Thank you, brother. Keep going on you.

That means a lot to me. Especially right. It's all the dumb shit. Mm-hmm. It comes with it. Yeah, but a lot of times. a lot of times it would just be our ego because of where we came from and you know we stand on a certain ground that and I'm not saying that you can't check a nigger because sometimes I got to check niggas right but it's never nothing to where as though I see you when I want to have no issues with you right you know it's just that sometimes and nobody's too big to get checked checking is just a form of correction for shit show no my nigger I don't talk about you my nigger don't talk about me my nigger don't talk about me my My nigger.

Right. You feel what I'm saying? You say some slick shit to me, my nigga. I'm going to say some slick shit to you, my nigger. So let's not go there. I don't want to harm you. I don't want to you another man that's getting money feeding your family. I don't want to take you from your family.

I don't want you to attempt to take me from my family. But let's keep shit into perspective. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, you know what I mean? Keep going up. Keep doing you, man. And keep winning, man. Thank you, bro.

We salute you. You want to salute you black. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. And I just want to touch on the subject of what while I was saying earlier, like a lot of the people from the hood and from the ghettos that come from backgrounds of violence and robbing or, you know what I'm saying, gang bang or whatever. These people will be having a lot of character.

Yes. These people would be really funny. These people would be really good people. These people would be people that if they grew up in different circumstances and they had different opportunities, they probably wouldn't be this monster. this person that you are in fear of because you don't understand the struggle and what they're going through

and what they come from and I feel the same way about people even if I go through some with somebody if it ain't no bloodshed on me and my people no matter how bad of a life

a deaf situation I went through with you if ain't nobody on my end was no bloodshed I don't got no beef I don't got no problem with you I look past it my only problem is when some bloodshed

is on something with family because family is family and that's all we have I'm a person being a biological only child and growing up through the struggles that I grew up with my mother being a dancer crack addict, struggling

my brothers and the people that I met in the streets growing up and the people that took me in and gave me love and gave me understanding and comforted or went with me through my struggles these are my real brothers and they mean everything in the world of me so shout out the big bro over there too

that's up. Yeah, shout out to tour, man. Shout out to the GI Touring, man. The whole T.I. Business, man. Oh, gee. Saus Miyagi, Sauswood winning, sauce, uh, goddamn Gohan, Fifth Ward, J.P. Sosa, man. Peso, Peso, Sosa, Man, Fip Ward, Shiasa, L-Train, Dripi, everybody, Dope Boy, Sous.

Sancho, Sousie, my sauce twin, you know what I'm saying? The whole TSF business, man, you know what I'm saying? We got artists in Japan, New England, Puerto Rico, Mike Fopo, Mike Dizi from Dallas. You know, we got artists from all around the world, man. Shout out the whole TSA business. Before we get out of here, let me just say this. You know, you're out in California because you say it is a must that you talk about it.

Yeah, I ain't fucked about it. You know what I mean? You out of California. Something go down. Unfortunately, somebody lost their life. You know, they tried to rob you. Right? Unfortunately, somebody lost their life.

You know what I mean? But, you know, whoever's in that situation when you, you know, you got to protect yourself. So tell them the young people out here how important it is that when you travel into these other cities and even when you're in your own city and, you know, you got a lot of jewelry on, you got a lot of expensive things on, how important it is to really be on point. Well, to be aware is to be alive for number one. And that's something that I learned very young. and I also learned that during cognitive intervention class

when I was in the penitentiary, you know what I'm saying? Like to be aware, to be alive, I just applied it in other spaces in life. You know what I'm saying? So I'm a person that everywhere I go and anywhere I'm at, no matter how many people that I'm around, even if I bring my whole crew with me because the majority of the time I'm always bringing 15, 20, 30 people with me in any city than I'm in.

And that's something that I also advise young, young kings, young hard, working hustlers, not just rappers, people that get money and travel around the world and you like to display your trophies of whole, because it's also marketing the advertisement tools. It's not just stupidity and people wasting money. It's people that actually make money from walking to places being presentable and representing themselves and businesses through jury. So with that being said, you have to keep your people around you for number one that really got your back and really got good intentions for you that also have the same things in life

that you have that don't want to lose them that's willing to put themselves at risk to keep the things that they worked hard for just like you did because if we all got the same like minds and we all trying to make sure that we go home than what we came with for number one then for number two you got to always be aware of your surroundings

and if you got good people that you know in these different cities it's nothing wrong with reaching out and communicating with your people. It's not checking in it's about reaching out to your people that's your real people that you know in these different cities, safety stations and it's about a mutual a love and respect that y'all share amongst each other not no money not none of that you my

boy when you are my city and you're in good graces you with good faces and you're in good graces when i come to your city when i come to your state it's the same thing it's same love unfortunately i just so happen to be in a situation where i was doing some very very professional industry stuff that it was a blessing for me to be in this facility and be amongst these people to doing this level of industry work because i'm an independent artist i don't always get these opportunities and I do have a stigma and a persona on me where people look at me as a street cat or a rap villain or somebody that's going to come with a lot of people that's not artists that may be considered unprofessional because they don't have nothing to do with

the industry so they don't necessarily want these people around these surroundings when I'm doing certain certain level of business so that was just one of those situations where you know I went with a smaller staff than I usually do but I was still on point and I you know what I'm saying I hope to advise everybody else out there to not only pay attention but just to learn from the experience and I always look for the mess in the message you know what I'm saying?

Look for the message and not look for the mess because in actuality like I was really, really, really trying to because like how you said the average artist is in hip hop they only want to look hard, they only want to look tough they only want to look like they're perfect and nothing can happen to them. And they can't be vulnerable or it can't happen to you.

I'm trying to speak on both sides of the field for the man with a gun in his hand to the man on the other side of the gun. No matter how this situation can go out, either you can lose your life or lose your freedom or this person can lose their life or lose their jury or whatever is to come from this situation. When another black man pulls a gun on another black man for what he worked hard for, just think about what you put in the state and think about what's all at risk, even yourself. Because every time you do this, you're at risk too. It's not always going to work out the way that they tell you was going to play out in the hood. And that was really the message that I was trying to put out there because the way it happened and the way it came to me,

we wasn't sure who was the person that passed away to lost their life. That's why I never said nothing disrespectful to the person that lost their life in the first place. It was just misinterpreted because the internet always going to run and make a narrative with things that's what they're going to do. And at the end of the day, I'm not a person that's going to continuously, continuously try to just, it's so many different points and arguments going on the end and there.

It's like, I'm one person. I can't argue with every single point, but I am going to try to use my platform and use my place to clear space and clear the hearts of the families and the sisters to the people of that victim that was unfortunately lost his life in the situation that had nothing to do with him

but that he ended up gotten involved in because of a fair robbery attempt on me. You know what I'm saying? And that just plain, blank pig, you know what I'm saying? And in life, in life, if a man survives a fight with a bear, a tiger, a lion, a sword, a knife, an alligator, you're going to be powerful about surviving that encounter. Not only you're going to be powerful about surviving that encounter, you're going to try to give any knowledge or insight about what someone else should do if they ever are encounter with that, especially if you have a platform. and you're a rapper too where you also know

anything you do is going to be on the internet anyway. So what people got to understand also about the situation the only reason why I even went to the internet and spoke on it

was because I was already getting the calls from the blog sites and the rappers in the town like, yo bro, we heard what happened? You got robbed? What happened? Bro, bro, you got raw?

Somebody roared you. Blog sites called a hey man, we're trying to give you your chance to tell your story right now because we heard you got raw. How I got robbed? I got all my fucking jury on. What are you talking about?

At the end of the day, what I'm going to go do a thousand interviews and argue with a thousand. of motherfuckers to make the point of the fucking. I'm going to use my platform and shut up all the nays say and all the bullshit talk before y'all because I know what's going to happen tomorrow. I know what the blocks is going to do when they find out about this shit and I was involved

with it, period. So I'm going on here and set the record straight before it gets into all of the other bullshit. But unfortunately, people misconstrue and took my words because at the end of the day, there's not nothing that we can go into a verbatim about in the beginning of the circumstance. Anyway, this is a brand new situation that we can't even go into full detail on. Right. for clearing that up, man. You know what I mean?

I appreciate you for coming through the city. For shit show, man. Spilling in Philly. You know what I'm saying? Neck real chili. Straight out of Tenses, bins and Rolexes. They got a respect.

As you see, the necklace is 101. How we come through. Sauce Walker, Sue. Main Delaware for game. Shout out to board, man. Shout out of you, boy, man. Salis Beach, too. Yeah, South Beach, Florida.

My new L. My just dropped, man. Ghetto Gospel 3 coming out. I'm going to New York in a couple of months. I'm going to go, nine a couple months, a couple of weeks, excuse me, to drop, New South City, too.

I drop a New York album every time I go to New York so I'm gonna do that on some classic hip-hop beats like what you heard earlier with me and Danja. Shout out to Danja, the producer, Danger, Danja.

Shout out to all my artists around the world. My artist is in Japan. My artist is in Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic. I love all y'all, the whole TSA family. We started this shit from nothing.

I got a full roster artists that's going to be superstars, mega stars, or whatever stars they're going to be. They're never going to be broke. That's one thing about it. They're never going to be broke.

And that's what matter. you know what I understand this too like I always try to tell people even for the labels they plan to do business with me in the future whether I do business with somebody and I give them a catalog or not what you have to understand is about

with me keeping these catalog and steady building it in two to three to four years that $200,000 a month is going to be a million dollars a month for sure even if it's the same amount of albums the same albums doing the same amount of streams

that they've been doing but you adding a multitude of more albums on top of it you can't Stop the number at the end. Right. So the growth is always going to be there. So what happens, so where artists got to realize is that in the next 10 to 20 years span, are you going to be still making that three, four, five hundred thousand dollars to a million dollars a month that you was making when you were the highest artist in America. But me, I'm still going to be making my Netflix check from this catalog of 500 albums from 10, 20 years ago.

Shout to Kyle Williams. Talk to Kelly Williams, man. You know, yeah, this is Kat Williams, man. Cat Williams bag over here, you know what I'm saying? We're trying to be the next independent distribution company around there, you know what I'm saying? All the people that helped me do what I do. You know what I'm saying?

Because I couldn't do what I do without my label, I mean, without my label TSA, except that I started together, me, Sautio, Man, Sancho Saucci, Majori, Jay, and without my distribution companies that I work with. Shout out to create music group, shout out to Gazi. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to United Masters, all of this shows around the world.

Man, I plan on doing business with all y'all. I want to meet everybody. That's what I'm talking. Shout out to my niggi y'all for making this happen. And it's just like that.