Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 190: FEATURING JEEZY

Episode Date: October 20, 2022

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Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad free on Amazon Music. Right. Now, you know, young and nephew, that's home team. Yeah. You got him on that one. I love your nephew.

Yeah. I love you to death. He got you on that one now. Kentucky. And let me just. just tell you something. You know how you know when an OG

kid a young nigga on the record anytime they say the OG killed that you know he got you on the record because the young niggers be dying a flame old nigger. Why you put

him on here? That shit man niggas sound like 99 man. He fucked the record. it is. They'd be dying to barbecue or older nigger

so when you all the young niggas like, oh no he's easy fuck that up that's when you know

an older nigger got you younger nigga shout out to him he wasn't crazy on a record he goes crazy on anything but the young

nays got understand this y'all set yourself up sometime because y'all do the record then send it to

the OG and they're going to anchor that motherfucker and they're going the anchor going to be vicious this is why the boy don't be no

16 they ear it all way out You bought the barbecue sauce out You know so you got All the seasonings Youngest dead do they Oden they're going to sit back and say okay They're going to listen to it a couple times They're going to go in the booth

And they're just going to flame it all way out Y'all y'all y'all give it to them You know what I mean But you're now tuned into Me Me Million dollars worth a game man Yes sir Now listen man There's a snowfall going on

We got a snowman on here It's going down What we got you know young we got young on here Big snow Big snow now B-I-G-S-N-O It went from young

Yeah It went to It went from young You know Young Jeezy Jeezy Big snow Mr. 17-5

See that's who the fuck You know Who you know 175 I know I know I know little J from Hawkinsville

Nick Oh okay Okay Okay motherfucker was running them streets With my motherfucker Melman

And gold mouth Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah A guy left Left school In ninth grade

One's a motherfucker From trap king To the rap king Sixth grade Oh damn Six grade Yeah Nick ain't even

Make it to high Okay And one from motherfucking Trap king To the rap king To, you know Now they tell me You motherfucking real estate king

Yeah Yeah a lot of A lot of Atlanta Yeah Half Atlanta baby Damn No cap LLC shout

Who put you on game? I was in my team One of my great You know Confidants and friend business partner solo is what we call them turned me on the which end up being one of my closest friends

my realtor and he just gave me the game like we just went and bought all this land and buildings in the beginning and I kind of fell back from it because I was I was touring I was you know doing what I do and I got back and he's like you'll come sit down and talk to me and he broke out you know

the business and he's like yeah you know this building that you bought for such and such is worth this now. This land that you bought for that is worth this now. And I'm looking, I'm like, damn, like, we didn't do anything. He was like, that's what I'm trying to tell you. That's what real estate is. Yeah, that's what I was trying to tell you. And from that day forward, I was stuck.

Every big check I ever got, you know, I bought property. Every time I had a birthday, I brought property. I don't buy chains, watch his car, none of that. I buy property because at the end of the day. You're safe to say you had enough of them there. They got 40, four in that.

I don't buy change cars. You got 40 cars. But the real shit is it was like when I saw the game because I always wanted to walk in the building like that. You know, you're around. People, they tell you what they own. I own this street.

I own this block. I can say that now. You know what I'm saying? With confidence, but that was my goal. I think a lot of people to understand, like, you know, music was my talent. Not first off, but it was my talent, but business is my passion.

Right. I always wanted to be a business. Man, you know what I wanted to walk. I wanted to run the company. I wanted to walk in the room. And people like, look at his portfolio like he does all these different things so that's that's what that was about when i got the game i just really wanted to give it to everybody else because it was

sweet i'm like why we sell why we flipping bricks when we can be doing this shit like it's easy right you know and if you really think about it you know you ask some of my people you might know like the lakes the dj drums you know i gave them all the games all the connects all the people because they're getting real money and they're doing real things but it's like they're going to turn their artists on the people they know and it's like those one of the only people but for me is like I can't buy all the property you know what I'm saying so let's do it because right you know what I'm saying this episode a million dollars worth a game is bought to you by New Amsterdam Vaca now today we're going to do a little something

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which one you like the best this right here is the lemme RRT I think I'm about the cracker's open and see what it's about right I want to say sound I just want to say it's always it's always you know solid when motherfuckers reconnect and they get shit right I heard

I heard you and Freddie Gibbs reconnected recently and it was just love and you know A lot of times we promote, you know, the goofy shit that goes on in hip hop. And we always encourage that shit. But a lot of times when things get straightened out sometimes, because, you know, as you growing up in this game, it'd be a lot. It'd be a lot because you got different people from different sides coming. People over here talking.

Your people talk. You know how this shit go. Money. And, you know, sometimes a conversation can straighten out a lot of shit. And I heard you all had a good conversation. change numbers and it was just love. I was saying that, like, I had one of the homies tell me, you know, understanding it's the best thing in the world, you know what I'm saying.

He told me that at a young age, I really didn't understand what that meant until, like, you know, maybe about 10 years ago. And what I learned about dealing with people in business, you know what I'm saying, because it is business, you know what I'm saying, is we have to talk about expectations. and business and the understanding before we get into business

because if you come around and you think you have expectations and that doesn't happen you feel like you've been let down that's one two is you know and you guys probably know that well

because I watch how you guys talk to the generation behind us is communication it's a real thing communicate well your marriage ain't going to be right communicate well your friendship ain't gonna be right

and I just think we're like with that we was all learning how to communicate you feel I'm saying and now you know he's successful I'm successful we can communicate

because we don't need nothing from each other ain't no stress right you know what I'm saying so when I saw him and he saw me he was just like but at the same time it was never really an issue

it was more that we could not communicate right you know so now you know it ain't you know we don't have to to talk about what's wrong we can talk about what's up

with you what's going on see you you know what I mean it ain't the tension of something ain't going your way or something's not going right and you don't know how to communicate about it even for myself you know what I had to learn that not to react right and I had it when I went on live and I was talking about

you know when Nas was like hip hop was dead and I flipped my shit you know what I mean and really acted out you know what I went and Oz called me Like, yo, what's up, Jesus? I was like, what's up, I'm like, yo, I can understand, you know, you're frustrating to you, what I'm saying.

Yeah. So that really humbled me. So when I'm getting into something like that with my man, I'm humble now. Like, I don't have to react to what he's doing. I'm just going to sit back and be like, he's ready to talk. Right. We'll chop it up. See, for me, I feel like a lot of times with growth, a lot of times the ego leave.

Oh, no. That's your feet away ego is your worst enemy You know what I mean? When you're young and you're coming in the games And you know You're trying to put your feet in the game You know you poke your chest out of there

You think what them niggas said what Right Fuck them niggas want to do what Right Hold on that nigga said what about what Now when you get old and you're growing You get to experience things And you got real problems

And you got real bills And you got Everybody depend on you in You realize that No, no, no, I can't die out here. I can't go to jail. You're going down there. Right, like, no, no, no, no.

Right. You kind of let's the ego go because you learn in life that a lot of that shit that you did and went through when you was younger, that shit really wasn't that deep. It was just all about a conversation. Right. You know what I mean? Like one of the big things King Vaughn said, and I was glad we got to interview him when we did before he passed. You know the week before he passed.

He said, Gilly, you know Gilly with this. street shit. A lot of shit don't even really be that deep. It's just that niggas don't know how to talk to each other. It's communication, bro. Yeah. But also, too, let me say this. Like, it ain't no like, where you guys

at right now, you didn't read a handbook or a template, like, you've got to figure it out. Got to go through that shit. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of this is you know, we all got a vision. You know what I'm saying? We all got dreams. But in the midst of that,

things happen that we don't know how to deal with culturally and as men and as having egos and having to defend yourself and stand up for what you believe in so there's turmoil there you know what I'm saying so at the end of the day it's just like you know when people sit back and they're like you wrong he right he wrong I might be right you might be wrong or vice versa that doesn't matter as long as we can communicate about what it is we can continue to do business but if we can't find no communication then we can't do business same thing with street shit if we can't communicate about what the issue is, then, you know, at the end of the day,

somebody's ego is going to do something that's going to make somebody else hurt, somebody's going to lose their son, their kid, or whatever, all based on not being able to sit down and talk. And you know what, Amplify that? When we grew up, you know, it was a different time and that, like, when a lot of shit happened to the youngings, I don't, I'll be trying to be more understanding

because we didn't have the pressure of somebody disrespecting us in the world, seeing it with social media. Correct. So now they amplify, and you like, damn this nigga think I'm a pussy the world's seen it right this nigga got to die so now it's a whole different joint and it's a whole different to where it's though you said my eyes called you like like nah what's going on like you know it ain't let me explain to you right now before somebody even can call you somebody then took it and then somebody recorded you don't even know y'all had

and now and this shit the world seen now and they're like nigga got to die we come but you're absolutely right because you can't get beat up at the basketball court no you hit your ass with there's a rat yeah you got you got you know what I'm I got my ass with plenty of times. I'm like, damn, but what I'm saying is, but that's, that's in the hood. So imagine for the world. Yeah, the world.

You know what I'm saying? But my, my thing is, I get all that, bro, but, like, I ain't going to go to, oh, no, I ain't doing a dumb shit. I'm grown. I rack to go to war to come back to go to war. Right. You know what I'm saying?

It's just like, I already serve my time. Like, it's time to get to the money, take care of my family and live how I live. So my only advice, and I do not be trying to preach to nobody, but it's just like, I'm not an OG. I ain't none of that. I'm the big homie. I'm the one to come back to the block

with the shining cars and all that and be like, yo, what y'all doing? Y'all need to watch out for this and that. You just give them a little game. But the reality of it is when you get in these situations and you, at a point where you can change the whole dynamic of your family

and it's on you and you're not making wise decisions for the people that are around you and the people that rock with you, you're in a position of leadership. You're going to bring the whole tank down. Yeah. But you will never, ever have this chance again.

And a lot of people don't understand that, you know, 90% or 10% of music and what we do is the art. The other 90% is staying alive and navigating the bullshit, bad lawyers, bad team management, bad business. The women. The women, the, the, the, the, the, the, the vices,

the drugs, you know, death, prison. You know what I'm saying? So I commend anybody that see it like that because anybody can make a song but are you going to be able to survive when I look at Dolph smart bro like

you know Bank Road smart kids bro you know smart little homies Nipsey Nipsey Genius Borderline Brilliant

but it's just like that line of thinking that we exempt because we have an ego or we feel like you know I'm made this far nobody can't tell me nothing that be the thing bro I mean, just imagine if homie could have communicated

with Nipsey that he was a little jealous about what he had going on. And maybe Nipso would have been like, yo, I'll do a record with, whatever, I don't know, whatever that would have to do. Their communication. Right. And having the right.

I believe it's important to be fucking with the right people in your immediate circle. Because I believe everybody got to have people in line that could check them to where there was some type or respect based off of the experience of life. Right. For instance, yeah, I did 20 years in prison, but Gil, my big cousin. I'm my cousin.

This is my big cousin. So it's going to be shit that he's going to say, or he might get, a lot of it, that he could check me off based on experience of life that I just don't know. Like, no, cuss. And I'm the one that say, when he do, I'm soaking the game up. Damn, yeah, cuss, don't go that route, because. Or damn, you're slipping on. This, you need to tighten up here.

No, you ain't. And you've got to handle people around that see when you're not being who you are or you're not, you know, executing or do whatever. You ain't on your ground or whatever you ain't on. Right. Or even if you're out of pocket. Right. They got the authority to check you and it ain't no ego based off your bank account.

Right. Because what happened a lot of times, once you, you know, the game, once the motherfuck start getting money, the big homie turned into the little homie out here a lot of times. And they be just letting the nigger do anything instead of, if I was on a block, you'd a smack me, hey, what the fuck is you doing, Neff? Right. You should send a nigga to the store. Now they got some rat money and he's telling you, he's sending you to the store.

You'll give me some. Yeah, so that's the point of it. But that's the thing, though. Just like, you know, if leadership is based off, you know, whoever got the most money. Is in trouble? Right. Because, you know, I know billionaires that are unhappy and toxic and out of control.

You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, me, I'm a rock with people who got my best interest in mind. And even when I started my evolution, you know, like I came from the bottom of the bottom. I'm talking about, you know, block hand to hand. You know what I'm saying? It went through the ranks. So there's not a, there's not a page I didn't miss in this book. You know what I'm saying?

The thing that I credit myself on that I did that a lot of people don't do is I ain't get a stain on my jersey. Yeah. And I didn't get locked up and caught up, which was a blessing. So I know that was, you know, that was, my home ain't not me. You know what I'm saying? That was the real big home. Right.

But when I, but when somebody asked me, I just try to give them the game because ain't none of us perfect. You know what I'm saying? We all had trauma. We all had to heal. We all had to figure things out. It took me being around other people to understand that that's okay. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it's okay to have a conversation about it. You know how we do. We're going through stuff. You can't talk to nobody. So I already know if they're going through shit, they don't peel, lean, this, that. Ain't nobody talks to. They can't trust nobody. They're going to spiral out of control anyway because they ain't nobody around them to check them to tell them,

hey, look, this might not be it. So my thing is, like, when you get any positions, you're able to take care of your family, you know what I'm saying? You got to do that. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, you might not. get this chance again. And then I'll be goddamn if I'm going to do all this

hustling, all this street shit, get in the position to be, have a real life, and then give it all back because I brought the street shit into the race shit. Right. It's this ass backwards.

What's so fucked up about the ghetto is, you know, the ghetto raised some extraordinary motherfuckers. You know, that's, that's, skin be thick, I'm talking to niggas be built for a tough. But the fucked up part about the ghetto is that, you know, it teach you really not to have feelings.

You know what I'm saying? Don't feel shit, right? You fall off the swing. Stop crying. What you're crying for? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You feel what I'm saying? So when you get older and you get in vulnerable situations,

you don't even want to talk to a motherfucker because you never want to feel vulnerable. You never want to feel weak. You never want to because since you was. Two years old is stop crying. Don't hood. Like, you can't be emotional. You can't show emotions. You can't, you know what I mean?

You try to show emotions in the hood. Man, nigger, bitch, man. Like, the hood make fun of shit that we ain't supposed to be making fun of. Look at this nigga going to college. You know, trying to be smart-ass nigger. Like, wait, what? So you can't even be vulnerable in the hood. So when you grow up like that and you have issues

and you can't even talk to motherfuckers and you've got to keep all that shit boggled in. That's fucked up. But then the flip side of that is those be the ones who make it because they have thick skin. And they get all this power and this money. True. Got them issues. Right.

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Walgreens CVS and write aid right right I'm gonna say this though I want to know this you made your catalog is filled with goose bump music and I didn't see it from afar and I didn't seem to take place where to this day

there's a lot of you know artists from yesterday but to this day you get on that stage and fuck the arena up. Rather you in Baltimore. Rather you in Cleveland. Rather you in New York. Right. Rather you in D.C., Charlotte.

It's this excitement. Even if you're looking at it through a phone that people have, when you reconnect them to a moment that's not here no more. And it's just like, what was the process of making that, man? Just making that type of music because, you know,

like when you listen to bodies of work, like, and it's sad, in this time and day in time, music don't last as long as it used to. Like, the longevity of music is like, because so much coming out, the oversaturation of it, people listen to a song a weekend and then they're done.

Right. The album, they'd drop it. But this shit is still, like, as soon as that shit come on, it's a rat. Right. They just, you know what I mean? So what was the process of making that type of music for a young cat that's listening

that's, you know, just, that want to make songs, Like real songs, a body of work. If I'm honest, like, I don't think a lot of people understand, like, the magnitude of what I was in and involved with, you know what I'm saying, and what the consequences of that were going to be or could be. And a lot of my first music, I made out of survival, out of desperation. Because I knew if I didn't figure this shit out, it was a rap.

you know what I'm saying I was going to be gone like it was only one of two things like jailed of death and it was it was serious because I can feel it happening around me like this one getting indicted that one getting indicted all these different things going on

so when I went in and did like trap of dying streets is watching I already had in my mind that I was going to go to prison like I already had like understood okay this is what's going to be the end result so let me just get in here and just like give this everything i got like everything like don't leave like live full die empty type shit and um it worked and it wasn't until you know my first three

albums i was still going through survivors remorse you know what i'm saying break that down though meaning that things were still happening around me in real time up into the recession So recessing wound all the way back. I was drinking heavily, smoking, when sleeping, I probably didn't even, like, I wouldn't even drinking water, bro. Like, I was just on a suicide mission because I was like, I'm just going to do this until it's open. I'm going to ball-tile fall. And then when I got on, it felt too good to be true, so I was already waiting on it. You see what I'm saying?

So now it's like I'm not happy. A lot of the things around me are toxic because everybody around me is clinging on to me for dear life and I don't know what the hell to do, you know what I'm trying to figure it out, you know what I'm saying? But also I know there's something bigger and better for me, but

I never forget, like, when people start getting indicted and things start happening, death jammed me, you pick up the phone. That's not, that's not no cap. Only person called me was Jay-Z. He said, you need to come talk to me? I was like, hell yeah. So I went to his office, and I went to his office, And I sat in his office in Rock Nation,

and we sat and we had a real conversation. Yeah. And I just felt the sense of, like, comfort because I'm like, you know, he's like, yo, you got it, whatever it is, you know, I don't want to know. He's saying that, like, you know, but it's how you got to go about it.

And for me, it's just like, I wouldn't the best version of myself until the recession because everything before that, I was deeply depressed, paranoid. You know what I'm saying? Didn't trust anybody around me. I had so much trauma and turmoil going on because I was that kid

that was told to be tough so I didn't even know how to talk to people, bro. I didn't even know how to connect. It was like a weird disconnect because even people

there was my peers and I said the other day the realest thing about all that my biggest regret is not nourishing my relationship because I was friends with LeBron before anybody was friends of LeBron.

You know, I was friends with this guy before but I was such a street nigga I just be in my like in my your own element. You know what I'm saying? I know exactly.

Let me keep my distance. I don't want to be around nobody. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm in that bag. And I just woke up one day and I just remember it when I was going in the record The Recession and I just woke up and I was like, damn, I'm free. I got double platinum record just came out. You know what I'm saying?

Like, damn, like I'm going to be a superstar. That was my mentality. And it was like I was like 60 pounds overweight. I was like 260. I'm 5'8. All crystal and Woffel house. So now I'm reading books Learn about health

You know what I'm saying Get myself together Get my mind right I'm starting to heal You feel I'm saying So now I'm starting to hill I get down to like One-90

You're like shit It went from being gangsters In the front row of my soul To braw throwing pennies I'm like I'm never going to Yeah So I'm like This is a thing now

So I'm like I'm walking around Ah geez I'm like yo They hit that nigga with a pair Pannies that niggas said y'all keep the cocaine right yeah and i be yo and there's no cat i've been at shows with cats them ran and through a quarter bird on the stage yeah i love you know what i'm saying like i just love but what i'm saying is when the second recess happened not to cut you off

though you was paranoid this shit you kick that shit right oh my what you're going to you're the police right right right no and and but no castor i went through all those different things but i could say up into the recession i just wasn't happy because because I had a bunch of people with me. And again, you're trying to fulfill the leadership role. Everybody's standing in my house. Everybody wearing my clothes. Like everything, driving my car, whatever.

But it's just like, they ain't even happy. So how can we all be happy if I'm coming downstairs and nobody's happy? Not even happy for you because now I was just like, you're straight. I'm like, no, we're straight. But now I've got lawsuits, this, that, another. I got a paper thing. So it's costing me so much money. And I don't have an outlet.

You know what I'm saying? So I don't have somebody that, can go tell I don't really feel comfortable what's going on. I feel like I'm about to crash. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I had to just get out of my comfort zone and just started to communicate with other people and then I just got this place where I was able to talk

like one of my best business partner solo I just tell them like, yo man, I'm going to drink wine. What's that about? You know, but my whole ploy was to get to him so I can talk to him. You know what I'm saying? What kind of cigar is that? Is it what we having a conversation? I was like, you know what? Hit a conversation. I would love to do real estate. He's like, I know somebody used to talk to him.

Bring the guy in. We sit down and talk about real estate. You know what I'm saying? I don't know shit about it. You know what I'm saying? He explained the things. I just give him the money. Boom, look what happened.

So when those things started to happen for me, I started to see how people started to act different because now I got another outlet to have conversations with people. The conversations ain't the same. I don't want to sit around and talk about what's going on the hood every day. I'm trying to figure this out. So for me, it's just like, that's when I started to, like, feel like, damn, like I'm coming into my own.

So point in case is when I had to make a decision about whether it was me or everybody else, hardest as it says that I haven't made in my life, bro, like, low-cat, like the hard is like a heart, you know what I'm saying? Because this is all I knew. The only other decision is when I went cold turkey from the streets, you know what I'm saying, before around. And it was that hard because that was my safety net, you know what I'm saying? So for me, it was just like, damn, but it's time to go be a superstar.

So I just went in and dived in here at first. and nigger I was happy you know what I'm saying I was like I was living I was traveling I was doing tours I'm on tour with Jay Z

and killing shit out there you know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying so now it's like I'm coming into my and I'm looking like it looking like the win looking like it skin good

eyes good you start wearing jersey and the jersey going to like working out doing pushups behind the stage all that going I heard about him. This episode of a million dollars

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They all go to the club back in the day. And Titter gets back to Philly and says, Nicker, it's this nigga young Gizzy Gill. This nigga got this shit on lock. So I'm like, yeah. So he's like, hold on. He played so icy for me. So I was like, that shit cool.

Like, you know, it's hot. Like, but that didn't give the perfect picture of who you really was as an artist. I was in jail when I first came out. It's a difference when he was in the club. So he actually seen this shit go. Now, it's a difference from when you be in a club and now you like, because it got a different effect on you. You look over here, you see eight chicks over here,

they're going crazy, you look over here, you see the gangsters over here, they're singing. He had that effect. When I heard it, I was like, like, it's cool, yeah, it's hot, but, like, this shit that, like, they was going crazy. Like, but then when I heard the next shit, right. That was wrong, like, Trappadah or something?

I said, oh, yeah, I understand. I understand because I kind of looked at you like you was the master of it wasn't what you say it's how you say yeah for sure you feel what I'm saying sure because you you could say some of the simplest shit I came down the steps

nigger made a move and that boy got wet and then it's yeah that's it's like the whole club saying that shit it's like and it's just the way you delight Delivered that shit. It was like, this is a cold nigger, you know what I mean? And you really was a person who really, to me, niggas really tried to copy your ad lips.

Right. That's when you know you're a cold motherfucker. Niggins try to copy your ad libs. But they had to know how I got them, though. The thing was, I was never a rapper. I signed people at first. That was my thing. I wanted to be cash money.

But then when everybody got locked up, up and jammed up and all the money was gone I didn't really have a choice but I used to sit in the studio with them but half of the adage came because I didn't really understand how to write

songs so what I would do is just get phrases that that I wanted to say and say them and then it would just be this big space I'm like shit let me just say this to answer myself okay right which was like even when I did

them boys with boys in the hood which was one of probably the most phenomenal verses ever for me Yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, that was one of the first ones around that time to come out too. Like around that era, I was like, oh, yeah, he, yeah. And that was the first time you can really like people who, what you're saying, that cold talk, it was like, I was saying things on the radio that the radio, you know, people didn't know what you were saying. Right.

So they was just letting you go. Because if you go on the radio talking about If it's taking too long To lock up, bring it back The street's going crazy Right You know what I'm saying But the radio don't know

What it means So they can't take it off Right You know what I'm saying So it was that cold But the answer What you were saying Was even when I did them boys

You know I went into a room With a room full of artists Like Jody Gied Duton Like rappers You know They're in

They weren't in on that shit too It took me like three hours To put that verse together You know what I'm saying But I knew what I was doing So at the end of the day Like that's how I I'll record then.

And I remember a trick there, and Jazzy Faye was everybody was in the studio. It was kind of like, wanting to be a part of the group. Like, it was like whack. Right, right. And I remember pinning my verse up. I didn't have my engineer, so I used their engineer. He didn't know how to record me, so I had to figure that out. And I remember everybody kept walking out of the room.

And I'm, you know, me in the whisper, like, man. This should take a ferville. You sure of him. When I dropped that verse and went outside, you know, because I like to listen to him, my vocals outside, like the door, whatever, the control room. That's just, if it's taking too long to lock up, bring it back. Everybody's studio was running there. Everybody's standing in the room.

Like, they was like in a-you-what-and-a-you- what I'm saying? And I knew it. I said, yeah. I got these niggas. I got these niggas now. That was your confidence booster. Oh, yeah, for sure. Because there was rappers.

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Today we got my man, HACTS and CEO with Herman. Listen, I'm telling me, listen, he's going to give you the game on how to get that business credit. A lot of people be talking about him, I need this, I need that. Listen, he can get with me, man. He got me hundreds of thousands of business credit. I didn't even use it yet.

I don't know why. First of all, let me just say this. A maxes. I mean, he took our shit to a different level. Let's get it. It's another level. You know what I mean? First of all, I heard me personally, I want to thank you because you came around

and you said, man, y'all got all this traffic. Y'all doing all. Do you know what you can do? Oh. And we was like, what? And we was like, what? And you was like, I could take you on and get your X amount of millions and credit right now. And I was like, niggie, you're lying.

And we had to do this because a lot of people seen us. I ain't lying. And you did that shit so fast. It was like this. I couldn't believe it. I appreciate that. I'm talking about. About, hold on, just so y'all niggas don't think I'm bluffing.

I always keep showing. Just so y'all don't think I'm bluffing. You got to show the receipts. You know what I mean? I don't want y'all. I don't want y'all. I don't think I'm bluffing. You know what I mean?

There's a bunch of motherfuckers in here, too, but I don't want y'all to think I'm bluffing. There we go. I'm not playing with these shit. Platinum's the goals. And he did that for us. You feel what I'm saying? So I just want to thank you, man. Because if you out here and you got a business and your shit ain't breakdancing me.

He can make your shit pop block and drop. like Chris Brown. You feel what I'm saying? Get you them credit cards. He can get you the business credit. Man, he'd make your shit moonwalk. I'm talking about all that shit. Dancing.

Yeah, he'd make your shit float. Dancing. You ever seen a nigga dance in the air and float? That's what you make your motherfucking LLC do. You nigger sitting around with LLCs and you act like LL fleas. You hear me you ain't doing nothing with it. I'm trying to tell you, give him that fucking number, man. Listen, let me tell you something.

Right now, he's going to get your video, right? Going to get you 10 different business credit card, No PG. You're going to, right now, you can use these to get 10 business credit cards, no PG. What you need to do is text MWG to 1-844-9-49-3-1-15. 1-844-9-4-9-3-1-15. Yes. Once again, 1844-9-49-3-1-15.

Listen, you'll see it on the screen. Text million dollars worth a game. Listen, man. You'll see it on the screen. Just tucks MWG. But right now, what you need to do is understand he's going to. give you a free a free ebook and you're going to get this video or how to get you 10 business credit cards no PG no personal guarantee listen listen and we're going to line you up for

the courses coming down the road we got a lot of stuff coming but her so my name johnny donut johnny donut talk to me mr donut i got you know you got two you got johnny donut and you got johnny do dirty uh-huh johnny donut have a nice personal credit score right right yeah i got an LLC i had it for two years i've been playing games with it lane games got a 700 credit score okay and what can i do what can you do so if you got good credit we're going to put you in position to get 25 50 100 000 so the better your personal credit we can get you that money on the business side because what the banks are going to do they might listen you is good with your personal credit you is good with your own file great now i'm going to trust you to do well with your own

business credit so now we want to move everything out of your personal name get everything out your personal name get everything out your kid's name get everything out your mama name get it in your business name you got that piece of paper you got that document you want to move that money to that side because it's not showing up on your personal credit report because you know when you put stuff on your personal credit report you go get that flat screen TV you get that iPad now it messes up your credit usage and your score drops but what if you put that in your business name and it doesn't show up on your personal credit port now you're golden but now I want to talk to you yes because you got bad credit her I'm not in position how can I get that

that too. Holy fuck. You mean I got bad credit. He's talking about you, Johnny Dewyer. He got the credit, but since you got excellent, right, but since you got bad credit, Herm, what can I do? How can I be put in position? Well, let me help you put you in position.

You text that number. We're going to give you a video that's going to show you how to get 10, no personal guarantee business credit cards to put you into position so you get some type of capital so you can be able to make some moves, start your business, get your high side hustle, your t-shirt brand, your boutique, anything. We're going to get you, put you in position to make you. So you're saying, okay, so you're saying, I'm Johnny Do Do Do Dirty or right? I'm up to the fuck.

I ain't like that fucking name. Johnny Dood Dirty. Fucking, fuck as you talk about. Right. Where the fuck you even get that from? Dude Dirty. I know a dude named Duddy for me. So, all right.

I'm home. Right. All right. I got an LLC. Got the LLC. Uh. But my credit score like $5.40. It's not looking good.

It's not looking good. My shit fucked up. Yeah. I couldn't help you before. But now I can help you. Now I can get you a couple dollars. Now I can get you some type of capital to put some gasoline on your dreams, on your imagination. Put that gasoline on that.

You need some studio time. You need to start your T-shirt brand. You need to start whatever. I need to get in the real estate. I need a little something, Herman, but my credit is trash. And I'm going to be able to help you put you in position. So you get 10. I'm going to give you 10 of them.

Not one, not two, not three. I'm giving you 10. No personal guarantee business credit cards to put you in position. You hear that? You fucking credit gladiators out there who've been worn with your motherfucking credit for the last four years. Trying to get your shit right You ain't got to have your shit right For him to get your shit right

I get you something I'm just saying I want to get you some in the room Yeah Right now your niggas busted and disgusted Popped up like a stolen car I ain't getting nothing Didn't even know you could get something

Will it's something right here Waiting on you nigga What's you gonna do Give him that fucking number again Listen right now you need to text MWG to 1-844-9-9-4-9-3-1-1-5 one eight four four nine four nine three one one five so you're saying if I'm just a loser and I'm sitting at home right now with fucking bad credit I can open up an LLC yeah and you can help a

I can help you out how much age I got to have on a LLC say something I'm tired of giving you niggas this game and you niggas still being fucking losers for these credit cards we're talking about only got to be three months old that's it yellow see three months old you got a business checking account you watch that video I'm going to send you free training, 10 business credit cards that's going to put you in position. All right, because before I came here, you had good credit. You had a 680 credit score. I'm helping you get the Amex.

I'm helping you get the platinum. But a lot of people came to my DMs. He's, I'm not there yet. What can I do? So I got an answer to people's call. Yo, I got something for you. I went out there. I did some research, made some connection with some banks.

And now I'm giving that back to my people and you getting it for free. All right. So let me ask you this question, right? How could it be any niggas out here that's broke, man? when we're giving out this type of information, man. Yeah, million dollars worth of information. I'm confused, man. We give it.

If you're trying to open up a business, you're trying to get some money. Mm-hmm. You got bad credit. I could open up an LLC, run some bullshit money through there for three months. Come to you. There you go. And I got 10 fucking credit cards. You way ahead of me.

There you go. Okay, now let me tell you niggas some. When your niggas get these credit cards, don't be the fuck up in Louie. You better stick to the plan Remember that shit you said You was going to do Whenever you got a shot God if you just give me one shot

I'm opening up my store And I'm going to the top I ain't going to never look back Now you get your shot nigga You're buying bitches bags That don't deserve it Because you're trying to impress a bitch That don't deserve to be impressed

She wasn't there when you were stressed I'm just saying This nigga's about to get y'all Some fucking real game That's got his attention, motivation And education nigga You better take advantage all right don't get these 10 credit cards

and they'll be back at square one a year from now now with these 10 credit cards could you do it all all online you could do everything online bro I can't make it any easier for you do this shit all over your phone all over your phone sit on your couch and bro this is per LLC you got another LLC run to play with another LLC

damn yeah it's time to run it up I'm giving you the game I'll give you the blueprint come on hold on wait hold on wait hold on come on I just go ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead this shit 100% legal right I'm just saying this shit sound too you got four of them you get 40

you're just damn you know the receipts I show you guys got how many how many how many business credit cards between the two you all right so that's per LLC you're running this game per LLC no you know because there's some motherfuckers out there

because let me just tell you something when you don't know the game that the white folks know and you black and you're teaching it yeah it can't be real it can be real black people don't trust like so it's so it's a nigga somewhere

right now he ain't got nothing but a gun to his name a gun in a fucking flash screen he ain't got cable nothing he just got wifi and youtube and he's watching this and he actually got an LLC he like look at this nigger lying talking about he can get me 10 credit cards yeah success has receipts shit don't even sound believable less as receipts so I just want to let them know that there was a lot of information out here that you just don't know that if you knew better, you do better. Do better. That's all I'm trying to tell you. And I got to give you guys the receipts. So when I show you the receipts, you

could double back, be like, yo, this guy knows what he's talking about. So what else you're going to get? Everybody who text that number, I'm going to put you on a waiting list because I'm coming out with an application. This is this web app that's going to take you step by step to get no personal guarantee business credit cards,

business loans, cars in your business name. Wallo 126. I see you've got a couple things outside in your business name. We're going to teach you out to get cars in your business name, credit cards in your business name, even beyond the 10 free ones that I'm giving you access to.

You text that number. I'm put you on the waiting list in November. When that app drops, you guys are going to be the first ones to get it, my million dollar worth of game crew. Y'all going to get it first. Give them that fucking number, man. Listen, right now I need you all to text.

MWG to 1-844-9-49-31-15. 1844-9-49-31-15. See the number? on that screen, make sure y'all text them motherfucking half. You got an L.O.C. If you don't, you better be getting one. And then write that number down right now. And then three months from now, if the L.O.C. go

through. You run a couple Monday. Texted that. Text them a motherfucking number. But what I'm saying is do sound with it. Yeah. Go out there really. I'm talking about you're trying to start a T-shirt brand. You're trying to get into the hair business. Trying to start a restaurant. Go here. Get your rent together. Pague. Barbershop. I mean, because one thing about this game is a lot

of people utilize OPM. Other people's money. Other people's money, man. And that's how a lot of people get on. They go ahead, leverage, use that money, run it back, pay it off. Yeah. And then now you got up off of it, just having credit. Just, you know, you know what's crazy. There's a lot of people that don't even try this.

Right. They got LLCs. They just send home and they think they're out of the game. They're not doing nothing with them, bro. And all they got to do is go on their phone. Watch this video there. Herm is going to see you. He's going to see you this video.

Once you text, MWG to 1-844-9-9-39-31-15. 1844-9-49 31-15 yeah 31 15 yeah listen I'm gonna give you the game the hustle is sold separately I'm gonna give you the blueprint all you have to do is execute y'all see the t-shirt I'm wearing I'm wearing audit your circle I don't know who you got in your circle yeah who you messing with I don't know who you messing with but be that light in your circle to put all your friends on

all your people on to the million dollars worth of game I got you we're gonna put everybody in position you text that number I'm gonna send you how long do it take for the uh these 10 credit cards like how long like the process to save are doing right now and you get approved right there they let you know right there whether you got approved than that if your stuff is set up properly yeah yeah your LLC set up properly and I'm going to show you in that video on how to set up your LLC property if it's sell it property properly you're going to get it you can get approved we're going to put you in position and there's 10 of them safe friends you just got too

now you have 10 20 000 all from watching a video on YouTube so we're going to put you guys in position to win audit your circle be the light in your circle be the light in your cancel all the people. They're telling you this is a scam. This is not going to work. You saw them bust out the receipts even before I started speaking. Make this happen. Oh, no, you upgraded our shit.

One of the main reasons you hear because everybody being a damn, yo, man, what's up with the bull, huh? And I don't be having time to explain anything to stuff. Right, right, right, right. I got to break all this stuff down. It's like, you know, you'd be one ahead time. But a lot of people are like, yo, what's up? Every time we post the videos and they see you, I'll be like, yo, man.

And I noticed when I posted you, your motherfucker follows what through the risk. Crazy. Crazy. Because everybody wants the knowledge. They want the game, bro. So they be in the DMs, we teach and we learn. I can't answer every single DMs. I was like, listen, let me do the training video.

So the training video is out the course on how to get no personal guarantee funding. We're going to put you all on the list. And when it dropped, you guys are going to get it first. So we're going to hold your hand to walk you through how to get no personal guarantee funding for any LLC. You got the loans, the credit card. How to get cars in your name? Listen, it's over right now. We're going to move how they've been moving for the first 400 years.

We got the game now. All we got to do is execute. And how many people had you help? How much total funding do you think? Listen, in 2021, total, total, my company, Bella Sloan Enterprises, shout out to my daughter, we funded $50 million. That's right. In business funding alone, we're not even talking about the personal side. On the business side alone, $50 million.

This year, we want to do $125. We got 90 days in the year left. We're going to hit that goal. Don't you want you all do one, two, six. I like that. One, six. I got that. Get my number one more time.

Right down to get this game right now. to text MWG to 1-844-9-49-1-15, 1-844-9-49, 315. Like, stop playing games, man. Yes. Get this game. I'm telling you, he's going to give you, listen. The information is going to send you a video so you get the information on how to access 10 different business credit cards, no P-G.

He's going to give you his free e-book, and he's also going to allow you up for the courses is ready to drop. You're going to be up in there. You don't want to miss this information. I'm telling you, you don't want to miss it. No. Because I know this is going to benefit a lot of people. lot of y'allists out there that got the LLCs and they're just sitting here you got it

I'm talking about LLC the LLC the tax identification number the EIN number is just like it takes like this to get this and you get it in the media and you know it's crazy everybody got a lot of people got an idea I know everybody's business not for everybody but there's a lot of people out there with some great ideas and it's like man when you're going to bust and move you're going to bust it now yeah man we're in the fourth quarter right now January 1st is around the corner yes it is don't wait for January 1st start planting seeds right now so when January 1st hit you hit in the ground running

executing I gave you to play just run it and this another business spotlight it's another episode a million dollars river game business spotlight this is the business credit

addition stop playing this is stop playing games with your LLC edition right why you stop playing games for the C right now once again before I leave I want to tell you all this

you all need to right now text his number MWG 1 8 844 9 4-9-3-1-15 1-8-44-9-4-9-4-9-1-3-1-15 Stop playing games, man May and I was where we game, been in the spotlight,

Haitian CEO, Gilly the Nut, and it's just like that. Right. The movie that took place during the beginning of your career, it was one of the greatest movies in the history of the ghetto. Right. The movie, the boys, you know, BMF, just doing anything. Right. I don't think we ever seen a movie like that up close.

Right. did you did could you have a fan of that that movie a how it went down from the the machinery from the whips to the jury

the especially the club no no no fuck especially no no no no you got the wrong especially the women the women but listen listen but listen all that

did you did you even fan that that shit will be emulated for decades it's still trying to become it's still trying to become It's still trying to, people still trying to emulate that movie that was in people minds through video

and some people seen that shit up close. Right. Did you think that it would have such a big impact on culture? I think that when you're in it, you don't see things in real time. You know what I mean? I just know what I, things I saw that I felt like, okay this is different meaning like you know we used to hang out you know how it is now where

you see people taking pictures that was a red flag from somebody like myself yeah hold what you're going on you know what I'm saying so it was things like that or or or like when you're in the club and you can tap guillian I just spent my last 100,000 to get 200 so I go in their bag and 200,000. Don't be like I. You know what I'm saying? Like, or you ain't got your car today. You can drive somebody else's.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Or, you know, it's just... Not no regular whip. Right. Lambo. Lambo or whatever. But, and I think it was such a magic time for like Atlanta.

Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Because you had the people that can get you those type of cars. One phone call. You know what I'm saying? The jewels were a little different. They'd pull up to the club and bring you the joint. The club,

promoters will come to the house and get the money before you get there. Make sure you got the bottles. And I just think, you know, and I never, you know, take nothing away from the city, but I think what dude and then was doing was bringing a Detroit lifestyle to Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? And I just think that when you see somebody do something different and it works, you captivate it. And one thing that I can credit to that is I remember going to the club and being in there.

And we used to drink Quabo 1,800, and Christile. Yeah. And Alex, which is the promoter. A.G. Shout out to A.G. Aitin said, I got bad news. I don't have any 1800 or Christiow. But I do have Petron and Perrier-Julier, and we start drinking that. You know what I'm saying?

And if you really notice holding the bottles, and if you look at the coach, and now everybody holds the bottles, and you're sitting there you're going damn and I watch they go from that to little John rapper by Petron to Petron being the next biggest thing in the world

that's all everybody's drunk or seeing the Chris style go from that to PJ I'm like damn or going to the club and it was like your mission to you know

fuck out money you know what I'm saying the strip club I'm fucking his money out nobody I'm gonna keep it all the real nobody did it like them names but that was the thing but this is a thing like

so even for me I used to even tell, dude, I'd be like, yeah, you know, because I'll get my own bag, but I'm like, what I'm going to do is I'm going to wear this chain that says Jeezy, this jersey with Jeezy in the back, and I'm going to do the same thing, you know what I'm saying, because everybody get money. I'm going to be in the midst, though. Right? But also, I'm going to make sure they're playing my music.

Yeah. Because this is, this is marketing to me. And if you're a real, and if you're a real hustler, I'm only throwing 2,000. No, no, but you had to throw it, though. He had to throw it. Oh, damn, you had to fuck it up. Because the... What's the most you feel?

What's the most you feel? Probably the most I probably through. Probably on my own. Probably like $300,000. Oh, no. And that's probably like... Nigger. That's probably like a...

In a week. Oh, in the week. But it's been more collectively. You know what I'm saying? I'm not bragging, but I'm saying... But you was marketing. That was marketing dollars. For me, but I knew...

They kept seeing you with that jersey on. Bro. The snowman. All it was... And shout out to DJ Nando. God bless you did. DJ Nando, which ended up being one of my good friends

when I used to walk in the club he was like jeez what you need 50,000 100,000 and at first I thought he was like putting pressure on me but I didn't understand he was getting the girls to understand who I was

okay he was with you right he was with me and the first place I took Jeff Jam before I got my deal I flew the whole death jam into Atlanta

where am I going to take them to show them I'm really Magic City I know every girl in there I know all the DJ. I know the door man. I'm having it my way. Then the homies in there, too.

You know what I'm saying? And as soon as you come in. Jeez-Dy, what you want? 189,000. Get jeezing. But I will say. Def Jam like this. Sign this, I was giving some of the execs money. Shout out to Asana

Airs, which was my product manager. I watched her put it in her bag. I was like, you know what I'm saying? I'm putting it out. He's tripping. What it was for me is just like, you know, I just think that I had again a vision

you know what I'm saying and I was able to understand that I'm going to spend this money like my man used to say I was like yo why are you spending so much money he said we're helping single mothers that was his thing I mean my thing was he was a cold motherfucker he was a tricking motherfucker

and we helped me single mother and my thing was always marketing I never lost the eye on the ball of that but then also there's no other place in the world you can be cooler than a strip club that's the staple strip club in a major black city

that is the mecca of culture you know what I'm saying like that's a fixture in the community meaning that which is why you know anytime somebody comes to Atlanta

they got to go there but my point in case is it's like you ain't got to be big nowhere in the world as long as you big there because every hustler in the world coming there

and it's just like and if your shit is on rotation in there. They're going back to where they're coming to that city and they see you that shit raining you from.

They're going back to wherever they're from and they're like yo, I was in there and by the way people were assigned everywhere like Trapp or die

drop and every they played the whole mixtape and the clubs and all with the drops and all same thing when I came to Philly though

nigga I'm talking about this was the first time in the history of DJing with a motherfucking DJ which fucking play

and then he was in the motherfucking crowd with the nils Because he's let the whole shit play. I'll get there in 55 minutes when it's over. And, bro, I pressed up. I pressed up. I know at least 600,000 copies myself of Trappadai.

Ron saw me. We was riding around passing them things out everywhere I can get somebody to take one. I used to go to this club on the east side call Primetime. Every Sunday, they used to have like 3,000 people there. I used to pass out CDs every Sunday. and that's why I got my first show book just based on me just went with $200.

That was the happiest $200,000 for my work. I'm like, you know, it's like you being the artist and paying somebody and somebody like, well, shit, I get $100 for that. You're like, shit, let's do it. But that's when I knew I was on to something. But I do want to shout out the girls at Magic City

in that time because one thing it was when you came in there, all the girls were superstars. You knew them all by their name. who they was, you know, who they deal with, and they kept you on point with everything that was going on the city, who robbed and who jacking, who talked to, who the police, who the snitches that was what they did.

And we just took care of them in that way. But they was also the ones that had the influence, to influence the real cats from other cities to like shit. Yeah. Because they, like, you don't like that jeezer. So a nigga feel like he behind.

Right. Right. Right. Right. That's what playing now. He don't like the snowman. Right. No, I'm fucking. the snowman, he's like, oh, the snowman, the nigger lied like him. Yeah, but that's, but that's how it happened. And it, and it gradually just happened like that,

and it just started spread, and it was just like, before you knew it, and again, it was a magical time in Atlanta. It was like, you came outside of Magic City. It was like a car show. Yeah, all you can think of. And they won, you know what I'm saying? And it's just like, don't leave that out. It went out?

It was a car show when you niggas won. Yeah, for sure. It was a car show, and at the same time, you know what I'm saying, it was a lot of money floating through the city in a way that made it just magical and it was just like

everybody was winning you know what I'm saying and it was like the music was the soundtrack to the win everybody winning you know what I'm saying Trappada was like

yeah you know what I went from old school shit that's what was going on that nigga said it was just money floating around the city yeah you niggas was throwing it

but all strippers had bent oh yeah no they was living they was living you said they were superstars all of them had bit like this was the only place where strippers was pulling up in the same cars

as the rappers and the hustlers he was getting that money in Philly the bits got beat up hinder's yeah no that was they was jumping out there shit you hear me and I'm like

it was so crazy back then like Porsches and shit didn't even get parked in front of the club like somebody in front of magic no no no no no nigger you got to be in the rar i wish that shit they would put a portion in front of that motherfucker they'd kick a nigga in his ass that parked that joint man yeah like

that shit was unbelievable it was real bro you know what i mean and i'm not going i'm not going even like hold you like you know even because even when i came in you know what I'm saying it was like all about like snap music yeah so it was hard to compete with that shit you know what I'm saying like scrapping them had it on lock

Knuck a few bucks. Knock a few bucks. My tempo was so slow that it took real hustlers with credibility and influence to that people know this is what it's supposed to sound like. You know what I'm saying? Because I, you know, my music, like you had Laffy Taffy. Lavin, Davy, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

And it was like that's where had the club on smash. Yeah. And it's like, I'm coming in here. You got records like, you know, Trappad, Air Force. they're so slow but when you start to see people rejoice and like celebrate to it I'm like damn and then what happened is you know what I'm saying I started going on the road and getting shows

and then I would show up in these cities and it's like even like Philly it's been wall to wall oh you remember the show I bought you to Philly the club to the club yeah I broke some brand with you how much you want nigga and it was like it's wall to wall but it all started right there in the walls imagine I can't eat

I can't eat I can't eat I can't eat cat it's where it started at Magic City so shout out to Magic City they birthed cheesy yeah

now you've been you've been with death jam since the beginning yeah Kobe Brian oh

what what is it that kept you there what was the business relationship like because a lot of artists right

and I really want to know this for the artists out there that might be with a label which is it might be the partners

and have it can take that partnership and have longevity with it. What is the keys of that? And what was it about Def Jam that, you know? What was it about Def Jam? In the beginning, if I'm honest,

had a lot to do with Shakir Stewart. Rest in peace of Shakir Stewart. Yeah, man, like, Secure was my confidant. He was the one person I could tell how I was feeling. You know what I'm saying? Because to everybody else, he was Superman. Right. You don't go through shit.

You got it. You got money. You ain't going to nothing. I was like, we're about to. do this too. I'm nervous and shit. What about it? What are we doing? You know what I mean? But Shakir was my friend, my confidant, and

by him being in the building, I just felt like I had a different, he had a different type of alliance with me because he knew me from the street. He was one of the reasons why I got signed. I think that L.A. Reed

played such a big part because he understood what South music was about. Yeah. And he was like you know he was just so he just understood how to make superstars and he was cutting that check by the way yeah you know what I'm saying and um when Kevin Lowes who originally signed me yeah left two weeks after signing me and went to Atlantic and lo and behold jZ became the president yeah so now I got this trifecta of people that I got relationship relationships that are helping me, you know, through all these different things.

Like, that's why I was able to do the Boys in the Hood deal with Puff and Bad Boy and still have my death jam deal because now I'm with Jay and Puff and we having conversations. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, you all want to do these? Like, yeah, whatever. L.A. Reed was with it too. So to answer your question, I think my loyalty was to, you know, I'm one of those type of people. I'm a lawyer by default.

Like, I'm about my business. I'm just saying, like, if it ain't able to fix it. That's a hell of a combination. Right. At that time, L.A. Reed, was the chairman, right? Correct. And J. Z. was the president. Correct.

And Kevin Liles just left, but you had dealings with him. Right. That's an unbelievable role of that. Right, right. And me and Kevin still talk to the state. But I got so much game and understood the building so much. And even the people that worked in there, I built like a real relationship with him. Was Kaiser still over there?

No, Kaiser wasn't at. He was at Atlantic. He left by now. Yeah. So, you know, you got Peckos, you got, you got, you know, it was just a legendary time, you know what I'm saying? And it was just like, L.A. Rie would call me and put me on records with Rihanna. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Just coming to man, you know what I'm saying? I was doing records with yay and this one, that one. And it was just like, damn, you know what I'm saying? Relationships. Relationships. But again, you know, rest of the piece of the goat, Kobe, I kind of had that Kobe L.A. L.A. Lakers, like, I'm a fixture in this. Right. what I'm saying, which was why I was able to negotiate to be an executive up there.

So a lot of people don't know I'm executive at DevJam right now. We just signed Haiti Baby from SoCal. He's dope. We just signed him to our label CT, New World, and Dev Jam. But it's just like I understand the building. And again, it's like having a plug that never rob you. Right. Why you're leaving?

Right. They never rob me. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I got a plug. You know what I'm saying? They always keep the work. They never ran out of work. Right.

It was just like, you know, if I look like shopping with somebody else, you know, you buy your hit. Shout out to my brother Tungi over there, too, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's another thing. I've been through almost seven different regimes of death gym. Yeah. And I stuck in there even when it was shaky. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Only fucking area you ain't been through it was a run DMC. Right, right. You feel me? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And Russell Simmons. And Leior and all them.

Yeah. No, he was there when Leo was there. No, Lear was trying to sign me to Atlantic. Oh, he was trying to sign me, though. I was just like, when he came to him. I flew in to see him. He was like, yeah, I really want to see you in. You know, I he talked.

Yeah, old mobster. He said, I will, anybody to get in our way, I will smash him like an ant. He said, I smest him like an ant with a sludge hammer for you. I said, yo, this thing is cold. You know what I'm saying? He was, it was L.A. Reed with the Savoy Affaird that kind of, you know, he smoked in his good cigar, drinking the Louis 13. He'd go in his office.

It's like, I'll be L.A. office. This shit is cragid. You're like L.A. Atlanta, T.L. He had the whole Tony Rich. He had an unbelievable staff. You from down here was easier to believe in that. But the glue to it all was the fact that Shakir was in there.

Yeah. Because I trust him. You know what I'm saying? Secure's, you know, we've been through a lot of things together. But I did, like, because, you know, a lot of these people will tell you anything to get things done. Absolutely. Because they got your ear. But I trusted him.

You know what I'm saying? If he said something, you know, I'm going to think about it. Because back then I was definitely paranoid. Second-guessing anything anybody came to me with because I didn't trust industry people at the time, but I trusted him. I'm saying? That's major, man.

Now, snowfall. You know, the island will come out tomorrow. Who do you got on there? South DeMars. So I really wanted to link with the guy. Well, first of all, shout out to all the producers that rock with me, Ben Rock with me, Justice League.

the list goes on and on and on shout out to DJ drama Don Cannon I think Cool and Dre all those guys on there too As far as features I just really wanted to rock With the young guys

Not even young Like the homies that I felt like I respect what they can stand for I want to build some type of alliance with So you got ESTG What I was saying We got a record called Scarface It's nuts

You got a shout out to my boy Should be out right now 42 Doug We got a record call putting the minks down It's going to tear Detroit And the Midwest up And shout out to Little Dirk, man

That's my brother, man We got a record called Most Hated That's his guy Yeah, we got a record called Most Hated And I'm gonna say this too, man The reason why I love Dirk man Is Dirk Dirk

way Dirk nurtures his relationships. But also, if you sit down and have a conversation with Dirk. Oh, yeah. He's like a sponge. Yes, he's so game up. You know, he's so good. And then you'll watch him and he'll go do exactly what we talked about him being independent.

My rooftop. We had a whole conversation. And I sat there and watched him do everything we had a conversation about. It's all to take it sometimes for somebody to put it in your mind that you can really do this shit. But at the same time, I watch him, you know, be at a place where he was trying to figure it out to everything that he wanted he actually got

you know what I'm saying and sometimes I kind of hate to see a lot of the city go through but I understand yeah what I'm saying so shout out to dirt

and I've seen you shout out to my Detroit family I just seen you in Detroit but payroll Gianvani baby money in them yeah shout out to pay roll I mean Detroit is like yeah

matter of fact when this come out we should be having a a B-side concert in Detroit you know what I'm saying right now

Detroit is just different, bro. And I'm never going downplay, you know, the connection that I have with Detroit because it's like, like, Detroit is like home. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy. Like, I feel better there than some places where I'm supposed to be. Yeah. And I go to Detroit and it's a slub and even shout out to payroll.

And I just call him like, I'm, yeah, yeah, by the way. He's a solid individual. Solid. He's solid. He's smart. Solid. He's wise. Right.

You know, he soak a lot of game up, man. He's real mature. No, no, for his age, yes. Yes. But that's the thing about Detroit. Like, I feel like it's something in the water out there because they live by different creed and coal. Yep, and they're about their people.

Yeah, but a lot of cities don't have that type of loyalty. You know what I'm saying? Those morals and values and integrity. Right. You know, just payroll somebody can leave with your kids. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'll be back. So they're good.

He, that type of guy. Right. So shout out the payroll. Shout out to the homie, baby, baby money. Sign out of Peezy. Baby money. T, all my people out there. My guy, Peezy, Vezo.

Vezo, shout out to Vezzo, too. Bezzo got a record coming, too. Oh, yeah, you're not playing. Shout out to Defiance Field. That's my water, yeah, that's my water. You got to send us some cases, man. Right, man. We got to get to him.

Shout out to this Nod, too, man. Give me some Defiance Field. The Fiance Field. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to, he got this fine coniac. Yeah, so we got Konyak. Nog.

That's what I'm talking about, man. That's what I'm talking about. That's what you. And you just, you just, business shit. Yeah, for me, it's just like, man. For me, it's just like, again, I finally got a chance to get there. And I'm just trying to leave by example.

When you think about, you know, our region and where we're at, we don't got a lot of puffs and JZs. That's my mission to be in the position. So generation behind me can be like, yo, this is what you're doing, you 10, 15 years in the game. Because one thing about it, there ain't no exploration date on getting no money. You know what I'm saying? Put the expiration date on that shit if you won, nigga. you know what you're like what you doing man you've been doing you know people like why don't you just chill for what right I'm I'm I'm looking 21 right I feel 22 I told you

I just told all the youngings I said that don't you know this is always the motherfuckers with money that tell a broke motherfuckers money ain't everything oh yeah shit what a motherfucker you better want that you better want that shit bad as you won't air right it's right next here right and I'm and I'm gonna tell you something I was in the cell when I was in the penitentiary You just put the album out. And my cellie coming in like, yo, you got to check this joint out. New Jersey shit.

Oh, here on here talking this shit. Just win. Just win. First time I ever heard of Les Brown in my life. I'm in the penitentiary. Now, I used to be the nigga in the yard going around talking the niggas all the time. Baby, we're going to be always...

When I heard that record and then I went aboard a bunch of Les Brown shit, I said, yo, man, this shit I'll be doing but I'll be doing it on some street shit that niggies in the yard. that song really made me come home and turn it up with the motivation on the street level

because I was like yeah less he's talking to them but hearing that it was like I was saying shit that was similar but more on some street shit how we got to switch it up and if you go and look at my body of works I came home

that's what really started this shit just win that song right there because it was so powerful I was like damn but when my celly came my shout out of free my man Chip man Chip and Timmy

when you saw he came in the shower? No, I said it came in the cell and they get the fuck out of it. So, so on and so on, right. So on and so on. And it was just like, that song was major, man. You niggas talk about Jeezy in the shower.

You're going to be a bad motherfucker. No, less, somebody put, and that's another thing. I was hanging around some people. They put you in with the less. And they put me on the less. And I was just like, and you got to understand. Everything that I ever done, you know,

that I ever did and I got gained from, I immediately put it. in the music to give it back to my people because I just feel like I'm a vessel when it comes to that because I'm not scared to get outside of my comfort zone and go sit down and chop it up with somebody and get some gain, you know what I mean?

It might not be who you wanted to be because you're used to dealing with a certain type of person. Yeah. But I'm a comedian enough to be a G is still going to have an intelligent articulated conversation with somebody to get the information they have and the data and the knowledge and be like, yo, that's how I wrote the recession.

I just went to talk to people Like I was in a room full of people, man And I know there was You know, billionaires You know, multi-millionaires And they hear them even Being concerned about money And talking about a recession

I didn't even know what it was I wouldn't have looked it up See what I'm saying And then I was like Oh, this can really happen And that's why I wrote the recession Because I was trying to put people on the game But my point in case is

When I heard Les Brown And the way he was talking about motivation for me I was like I never heard like Because I know you probably looked at a bunch of YouTube This shit is crazy went through his whole. His hit is crazy. And he was speaking in rooms of 5,000 people back in the day in the 80s.

But the way he was able to articulate and articulate his message, it just hits you different. And even for me, like, it's some of my lowest times, bro, like some of the times when I'm, like, out of my mind, I'll sit there, man, throw them less brown. You're done. And just put my headphones on, you know, and just sit there for hours. And it's like, it's like church for me. Like, just get back to, you know, what it is because, you know, when you in this game and this world, like, you get distracted by so many things, you forget what you're doing and why you're doing it. And he brings you back and send of you. And when I put that win out, that's how I win.

Like, just win. No matter how big, no matter how small, just win, just win, just win, just win. That's all it's about. Win, my nigga, just win. Just win. That's what it's about, man. Let me ask you a question, man. You know, when you finally got your back.

bone your rib I know that put a lot of growth on you too for sure yeah because a woman one thing about a woman that got you back she's going to tell you all the shit you don't want to head

for sure she's going to tell you all the things she's going to pat you on your back when you do a great job she's going to tell you the niggers to watch I don't know that nigga with the I don't know about that nigga right there baby just keep an eye on him

so you know a good woman boy she'll help you grow too shake that, you know what I mean? Yeah, you got to, like you say, you got to just build, you got to build your tribe. You got to build your, you know, your people, man, because, you know, that's what it's, I mean, you know, the end of the day, nobody just wins the game and it's done and it's all over, you know, I'm saying. But it's just like what you leave behind, what you, what you, you know, you got to look at these guys who build these, you know, these huge companies and all the people's lives they change. And I feel like that, too, like, with music is just like, you know, we do, we do. do so much culturally and we do

so much influence-wise like what do we leave? Right. You know what I'm saying? When you look at big and you're like damn like he was so impactful his legacy. It's like when you look at Tupac, which was my experience. Yeah, Park was the guy. Right, he was the guy which was probably one of the first

people that I saw that had morals and values. Right. As a rapper, yeah. He's as a man. You know, because that's the thing. I take the rapper out of everything I do. Yeah, but I'm saying, And like on a forefront, you know what I'm saying? He's a revolutionary. Right.

But on the forefront, you know, he came off to us. We knew about him because of the rapper. And then when we knew about him, it was like, oh, way, it's so much more to this nigger because he would just say shit that you was like, I don't even really know, like, if you're really supposed to be saying that in these type of times right now. But he was one that was going to stand on whatever.

On business. He was standing on business. Absolutely. But when you look at these, and, you know, no disrespect, but it's just like, I'm just trying to figure out how to change that narrative for us by leading the best way I know how, because that's what gets me fulfillment. Even when you see me doing a new project like this, it's because you can. But look at what it's opening up for, you know, the ESTGs and the Dirk's. And not that they don't got there, you're just like, well, we're going to keep because it's almost like getting money with somebody this younger. Absolutely.

You know what I'm saying? You're having the conversations while you're in the studio. You're talking about, you know, how to play. I told Derek the other day was on the phone. He's like, yeah, I was like, it was crazy.

But I basically said, I ain't worried about, you know, you know, I'm worried about anybody else. You know what I mean? So you'd be cool. But my point in case is, it's like, in the end, you know, we got to live full,

die empty. That's round, so you know. Yes. But we have an obligation. You know what I'm saying? because we didn't put us in this position, same as you guys. It's just like, when I hear you guys chopping it up, I know Gilly, like, you know what I'm saying?

And when you came home, it's just like, when I see what you guys are doing, it's like, to me, you guys are fulfilling your obligation. You're keeping it solid with some people that people don't keep it solid with. I bet you a lot of these cats call y'all on a personal level. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Basketball players, football players.

They're youngest, you know what I'm saying? because they trust you and I feel like that's what it's about and I know you've got really been getting money you know what I'm saying

I know that for a fact so I know this ain't about that so I feel like you guys are fulfilling your obligation like you guys are doing this because it's real and it means something and you're watching lies

change which is the same reason why I continue to do what I do because at some point somebody is going to come to me like they always do and ask me your big homie

like how do you do the right how do you go get you a brain I mean kids and call me about getting a lip of brain and water brands and who the partner with. That's my obligation. Tell them.

Business. Big business, big business, big snow. Big snow. Like, we're our obligation, but this shit for some chicken, dude. Get it fucked up. This shit for the chicken, the biscuits. Oh, that's right, man. No, but we really love a young man, you know what I'm saying?

And we really, you know, when we was starting this platform, our whole thing was we was going, you know, fuck with the owners of tomorrow. You feel what I'm saying? We're going to fuck with the motherfuckers that's right now And we're going to put our platform on them And help them try to, you know, take that shit to the next level And the old niggas that we're going to get

It's going to be legends. Legends. You feel what I'm saying? She'll kill O'Neill. He's a small one, though. Deion Sanders. A business game crazy. That's just. People don't even know.

He's like quiet. Shack is that animal. He's quiet. He got a zillion business. First of all. He'll play. Shack got more motherfucking commercials.

He's the fucking general. He's the snoop dog of basketball. Snoop ain't bullshit. Snoop. Snoop. It's not going to snub. Corse lights like a bumer by.

Snoop guy. He got everything. He got to be. It's too much. I just called Snoop and told him we need some of the fucking snoop loops, man. Yeah. I need another box of fruit.

He got Snoop loops. He got Snoop loops. Oh my God. Yeah, it is. I see you, I don't even know that. One thing about Snoop in the shack, those niggas are everywhere like broken glass, you hear me? Some niggas got their hands in everything.

I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. We just want to, we appreciate you, man. You just want to give your flowers, man, salute you, man. My God. Motherfucking legend in the game.

Yes, already. And for you to be, you know, came out when you came out and then you drop in shit right now when niggas is talk about your barbecue baking and young niggas. Yeah, that's how me. Yeah, that's major. You know what I mean? So make sure y'all get that motherfucking album.

That's right. Snowfall, baby. Tomorrow. Album tomorrow. It's coming out, baby. And obviously he fucking with the owners of tomorrow. Already. He's got all young niggas on his shit.

Already. And before I leave, man, I just want to give you guys your flowers, man. Because, you know, I feel it takes courage to do what y'all doing, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, and just to help, you know, cultivate, you know, what's going to happen. And I even see y'all with DeYoung. and the kids. Yes, man.

It's just like, I see this shit is real for y'all, bro, and it's just like, knowing like me and Gilly saying, I'm in strip clubs.

Yeah. My guy's damn near, he's damn near them. You know what I'm saying? He's like, you know what I'm saying? He's like, he's like,

he's like the Dom Litting of the hood. Yeah, like, you know, but, this is amazing. Even for yourself,

bro, you know. He used to run this strip club. You just fuck out of you. But I don't really know I listen to some of your stuff on like a different podcast

Like I think with Tom Time By you And I got a lot of your story But just to see where you come from Brother and see that You know what I'm saying You stay down

And letting these kids know what 20 years It's really about But come out with the The energy And the intention that you have That shit is amazing But at the end of the day That shit is supposed to break you

But it feels like You know what I mean? So we continue to do what the fuck you're doing Because we all watching I appreciate that man Appreciate that for sure Real tall That's much love guy

He's not ass nigga He's looking like you're red cross I was looking like that bitch ass naked Bitch ass naked You see they're looking at cheesy Like the fuck out of He used some bullshit Snap out this shit

He was some bullshit man Nigg gets snow all in He's about to cry He's shit I mean because I'll see you And he listen And he really knew snow Was telling the truth

Because he said I've seen you On another podcast The Tom He had a time That really tests him When you said that, I see the ears like this. He ain't lying to me, man. He's telling me the truth, man.

Looking at that man all in his eyes, like shit, getting watery and shit. You know, that's a nigga straight-n-up, man. You're a nut, man. You soft, man. I don't know what you're telling him about. It's what that jail time. It didn't do a big of him soft, you know.

He got out of the motherfucker, but it's just like that. Right.