Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - NICK CANNON: MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 229

Episode Date: July 16, 2023

We all know Nick Cannon as a multitalented entertainer who has achieved remarkable success in various fields. He's an actor, comedian, rapper, producer, and television host - talk about wearing many h...ats! From his hilarious roles in movies like "Drumline" to his chart-topping music hits, Nick has consistently proved his versatility and talent throughout his career. But let's not forget about his life journey, which has been quite the adventure! Nick started his entertainment journey at a young age, starring on the hit show "All That" and later becoming the host of "Wild 'N Out." He's known for his quick wit, infectious energy, and ability to make us all laugh uncontrollably. Now, we can't talk about Nick Cannon without mentioning his rather impressive family life. I mean, the man has not one, not two, but a whopping 12 children! 🤷‍♂️ It's safe to say that he's truly mastered the art of fatherhood. With his commitment to his family and his career, Nick has shown us that he can handle just about anything life throws his way. In this episode, we dive deep into Nick's experiences, discussing his journey in the entertainment industry, the lessons he's learned along the way, and how he manages to balance his personal and professional life. Get ready for some enlightening stories, laughter-filled moments, and, of course, a whole lot of game!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mworthofgame

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Starting point is 00:01:31 Million dollars worth a game But we got a billion dollars worth a game Today we got Nick Cannon up here He's going to spring with some game Talking about life Talk about family Talk about all type of shit He got going on
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah About the new to new condom Brandy God coming out Feels just like nothing Really the motherfuckers don't work Call raw Condoms It's just the ring
Starting point is 00:01:49 Called raw condoms You know what's crazy What I find crazy is that First of all salute to you Brother they try to put you out the game And you bounce And you bounce back Like Spalding in a playoff
Starting point is 00:02:00 They try to put me out a few times Yeah And like how do it feel like You know because a lot of times You know we talk about ownership We talk about license and deal We talk about a lot of shit And I don't think a lot of people don't understand
Starting point is 00:02:11 What ownership, license and deals Authorship mean Because a lot of people like A lot of us we come from the ghetto We just want to be in a game We don't care how we're in there Yeah they'll sign anything They'll give up their intellectual properties
Starting point is 00:02:25 Just based off it because they want the opportunity That's what we've always done We just wanted to be able to show people what we can do and we'll figure out the business later. But now the mindset of this generation and the young people is like, no, let's get the business tight and then we're going to bring our talent with it. So, I mean, I was probably one of the young forefathers at that game early on before was so accessible. Now everybody knows how to do it, but I had to, you know, learn it from my heels. You know what I mean? Like based off of I just started paying for stuff when I got a little money early on.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And then my lawyers explained to me like, oh, well, you own that. You shot that. So things like whaling out. Like now that's my model now. Like I don't wait for the networks to shoot anything. I shoot it myself. Absolutely. And then I license it.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And so therefore I always retain, you know, ownership of the intellectual property, which, you know, you always hear content, it's king, and you guys know that. But when you own it and it's of value, when you got an audience and they want it, that's when it's time to kick up. This episode of me and I was worth a game is brought to you by New Amsterdam Vaca. Now, life ain't going your way. Shot of New Amsterdam Vaca. You caught your wife cheating the day.
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Starting point is 00:07:16 Real in the black community is going to jail, doing some street shit, being everything that you're really not in order to be accepted. You ain't do nothing. of that shit and you still came through and you won and just how was you growing up in the industry and just embracing your individualism yeah it's interesting because you know we all come from the mud so i got the opportunity like it was a lot of my my people around me that were doing
Starting point is 00:07:42 all that yeah you know and it was very accessible for yeah you know uh and i squared up as fast as as the opportunity came so and all all the homies from the hill was like do that Like, I had no problem at, you know, fresh out of high school after we was doing a lot of dumb, reckless stuff in the hood when I was like, oh, I could take this entertainment thing seriously. And so when Nickelodeon came out, I was like, I want to be the corniest motherfucker I can because it's keeping me alive. It's allowing me to put my mother in a better situation.
Starting point is 00:08:13 So I had no problem. I was so comfortable in myself. I was never trying to be something that I wasn't because I knew I could have been that. Like, it wasn't, you know, like from my, my staff. Step daddy being one of the biggest D-boys in the city to my dad being, you know, from it and changing his life, you know, like once he got out, you know, he kind of changed his life, moved out the hood and start, you know, being a minister. So I, it was easy for me to do that, like my dream to literally square up and become corny. That was the thing that wasn't accessible. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:45 I could have been a knucklehead and gang banging and, you know, continue and just try to sell drugs and all that stuff. like that that was so accessible to us the thing that wasn't accessible was being on TV he was making music and you know at the time even my pops told me it was like you know because you know I had the typical Boys in the Hood story where moms was like you know you start
Starting point is 00:09:05 you start trying to be in the gang life and you know you know mid-90s where we from like everything from minutes to society to boys in the hood that's what we looked up to so my mom literally was like boys in the hood saw them and it's like yo you got to go move to North Carolina with your pops
Starting point is 00:09:21 And that literally put me on the right path where, you know, Pops was doing this type of stuff in the early 90s, like setting up cameras. He was trying to do his little televangelist thing. And he told me, he was like, look, every kid in the projects want to be a rapper. We know you could do that. We know you could talk all that talk.
Starting point is 00:09:38 He's like, but you're funny, man. Like, do something different. You do impressions. He's like, I want you to do that for me on my show. And when I go speak and all his evangelical work, I would go up and do that. And that really just shipped me to say, think outside the box where everybody else
Starting point is 00:09:52 want to be a rapper you could be funny you could be a comedian so I was like the youngest comedian in the early 90s on stage with everybody everybody from you know I opened up from you know I'd be at the improv with Chappelle and Chris Rock and you know and they would be looking out for me because I was just like a young cat see when you come from the ghetto it's easy to make the dumb
Starting point is 00:10:12 decision yeah because you see so many niggas doing it yeah yeah man fuck that I need to hustle I need to do this man all them niggas said this I'm going through there do this. It was right there for me though. Like literally at eight years old, I would watch my step pops bag up, fiends coming. Like I was like I was there. Like I was the little kid that had the Turkish
Starting point is 00:10:30 ropes and the the gazelles, singing shotgun, and the Cadillac on Dayton's. Like that was the life for me. Everything that came out was fresh. It was new my step pops. So you had it on smash. So I, that's what I, I thought that was my journey. That was my destiny.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I was like, yo, I'm gonna get out. I'm gonna continue to get out high school open up a barbershop you know get some work you know let that be the front you know what I mean I was cut niggas hair in school $5 a pop also Oh you was a barber?
Starting point is 00:11:01 Yeah yeah so it was that How many niggas you fucked up Nick? Everybody so like You fucked a lot of niggas hair Yeah the way I learned my grandmother was A foster mom You was working on the false So I learned how to cut
Starting point is 00:11:14 Cutting all the foster kids here And everybody started coming to like $5 a cut I got nice with the fade and all of that. Ficked a lot of kids. You can sell a little nickel bag. They're fresh with $10. They all.
Starting point is 00:11:28 So we did that for a minute. And then, you know, that was the trajectory, that or the military. You know what I mean? Because this music shit and his rapids, that was just a dream. You know what I mean? We all did it. But, you know, luckily, like I said, with the right opportunities and that stuff came along,
Starting point is 00:11:44 man, I was opening up for, you know, literally I was at the comedy store in Hollywood. I was driving, you know, two hours to get there. And, you know, I'd be, it's Jamie Fox, Chris Tucker, Eddie Griffin. And they all looked out for me. It was like, who is this little nigga? And I would just get up there in rec stages at like 15, 16 years old. And I was like, that's what I'm going to do in my life.
Starting point is 00:12:04 I literally have to, I rock a stage and have to drive all the way back to Diego. Go to school. To go to school. You know, they were grown-ass men. And nobody believed me. Like, you wasn't up there with no Jamie Fox. He wasn't up there with Chris Tucker. I was like, I was back to regular life until I made that decision.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Like a couple of the homies got killed. and it got really dangerous for us in our city and I told my mom like I was like yo if I stay here any longer I ain't gonna make it and she she was like well if you finish high school first you can go do your thing and I finished high school early got out and the rest of history before we go any further I just want to send a big apology out there
Starting point is 00:12:41 to all the foster kids who Nick fucked your head fucked their head all we up to the third power we can get you that signature they knew Nick did a ball Your shit was taken back over here. He's like, well, you can walk the dick. I always experimented like a mug on it. But, you know, it was love, though, because it was out of love. You know what?
Starting point is 00:12:57 They had nobody else. He fucked. They tops up. I was fucking right. But I'm going to say this, though. You know, in the streets, you know, we're a shooter, brother. But on me and I was a perfect game, we salute a brother. When I was in jail and I was watching Wiling Out, right?
Starting point is 00:13:10 The first hit when I was in prison. He was wilding out. Get the fuck out of here. I'm watching Whaling out, right? Yeah. The first thing that came to my mind, I said, yo, man. I told one of my homies, I said, yo man,
Starting point is 00:13:20 that boy was some Keenan shit, man. First thing I thought was a living colors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it wasn't just that I love the fact that even though you was on another level, your arm was so strong and long
Starting point is 00:13:30 you always were poor people out of the hood and you changed a lot of people fucking lives. Shout out the, shout out the D.C. Young Fly, right? Because I seen him do some honorable shit during the process time you was going through your shit. Shout out to all my brothers, 85 South.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Them all my brothers are real good brothers. But I've seen you put so many people on and changed their life and created, they was able to create platforms, they was able to go to tour, they was able to get money, they was ever to change their family situation. You got the brother right here from the...
Starting point is 00:13:58 W. Flame. Listen, the flame could be in San Quentin right now. Like in real time. Flame looked like he just came home from St. Quentin. You know what I'm saying? But I'm saying, he wouldn't have the opportunity in the platform to be able to do what he do if it wasn't for brothers like you to see
Starting point is 00:14:12 because you always went to the hood to get the talent. Yeah, facts. You found motherfuckers that was gyms and like, even with him, It's, it's homies that's going to be in penitentiary that's talking about him. His homies is on the set right now that might not make it the day. That's like, he going to be. And he's next too, man.
Starting point is 00:14:27 He's next. Flame, I mean, he doesn't been on tour all over. He's on a new show I created for B, T, and VH1 called Future Superstar. We took him all over. He'd been he on, while and out. Like, one, he was already serious and certified in the streets out in Long Beach, like one of the hottest out of Long Beach since Snoop Dog. But really, like, just when I met him, like, just what you said,
Starting point is 00:14:47 just a genuine brother who's trying to help his community. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I was like, I got to support that. And the same thing with like D.C. And solid, recognized solid. Yes. At the end of the day. Like, it's a spirit that talks to another spirit. Like, this is a real individual and always going to have your back
Starting point is 00:15:04 and you always going to have their back and you can grow together. Even if you just met, like, you know when you meet a real one. Or even if it's somebody that's just been on your team for a long time. So I really, I look at a man's character before I look at their talent. And because, we can shape and elevate your talent character or something that you just stuck with either
Starting point is 00:15:22 you got it you don't got i say you know everybody want to be solid but ain't nobody it's it's it's hard you know what i mean like like just everybody want to pretend like they sound right but to actually when when when the the rubber hit the road it ain't really it ain't really easy if it ain't in you you know we see that right now with all these cases that's going yeah it's facts this is real but but but If ain't no bitch in, you won't no bitch come out. Oh, hey, now that's a motherfucker million-old. That's a million-old. And I'm telling you right here, I'm stealing that one.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Ain't no bitch in you. It's crazy. That's real, though, man. So let's know you see me on the ground with these eyes. That's real. That's real. But the thing about flame is so important is that, like, there's so many motherfuckers out there that's from California is a serious place. A lot of people think it's a tourist attack.
Starting point is 00:16:16 that shit is not sweet and you know just I know there's so many people to see him from over there like damn look at him and he doesn't know what he was doing before this shit yeah yeah so it's like that's just a blessing and it's an inspiration for people to know it ain't never too late to switch your game
Starting point is 00:16:32 up and lift your name up like and now look at him we've got opportunities and he'll be able to put somebody on as time come and that's really what I'm building with flame it's like in the same way I've seen people do it because I mean you know they say whatever they want to say about mom used that shit is funny to me but like I'm trying to empower people to be CEOs like I'm trying to say you're a dope rapper
Starting point is 00:16:50 but let's put your crew on you got the Cinco boys let's like you need you the CEO of that movie like I mean some of the greatest have done it like we watch 50 cent coming to game we watch Jay Z coming to game and do we watch you know even Wayne we watch people come in and set up and and when you can follow those models because someone like flame is already certified and respected in his community like you said California I want to play with but he he get along with it It's rare. You go to, like, I mean, a niggas so, you know, massive. Like, it's kind of hard to, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, nigga do look like he had Choga Callie. Yeah, a nigga was living wait until every yard for no reason. I'm going back to the yard. Yeah, but the young boy still is still young. But he gets that respect. So I was like, man, that's that level of power, I think I've said this before. It's like, fuck the talent. When you can motivate people, that's what Malcolm X was on.
Starting point is 00:17:39 You know what you're doing right here? Like, you literally, like, they scared of y'all because of the level of power. that you have because you can say one thing and niggas move like it's like in malcolm mrs it's like no one black man should have all that power yeah that's not i mean like so when you when you certified like that and people not only move on your vibration based off of your music but also when you're a leader like that's all uh you got your business right yeah and when you can pass that on that's where it's like once we get that together when we can realize that all of these captains and all of these you know oh gs and even these young gs when you when you control your
Starting point is 00:18:14 hood and they pay attention to you that's leadership that's like people are born leaders you know what I mean that's that pop energy that's that's that type of stuff where you say yo that person knows how to move people and that's what I'll be telling Flan's like you you got that type of energy where people
Starting point is 00:18:30 listen to you whether it's because of your size whether it's because of your music people are paying attention because what you've been through you know what you're a perfect example people are like damn this thing is sir 20 plus like I all right we got he got he got something to say Like somebody like yourself that
Starting point is 00:18:45 Conquered the game on your way You know what I mean And I put him in this game I had him in his first contract I still own his publishing To 30 years over I own his publishing to life after day I used to put him in the tub
Starting point is 00:18:57 Watch him the fuck up Hold up Did I take you hold Can I ask you this Can I say this? Can I say this? Can I say this? Can I say this? Can I say this?
Starting point is 00:19:05 Cus? Because You had the logs in the water What? What are? Did I? Did I not take you to three shows back then? I got paid for them shows
Starting point is 00:19:14 You didn't I had you in a promo tour Oh you was the little Nick That's what my daddy used to do With me Go out there right No nigga Pitchin he'd be in my little cousin
Starting point is 00:19:22 He's getting the money I had you on a promo tour Tuss Hilarious Nicky here Give it out all types of game Because I never do Malcolm X said that
Starting point is 00:19:30 I thought that was public Yeah He's a fucking nut That's why Nah That's Malcolm X right there But now But now
Starting point is 00:19:36 As we go into You build a legacy Like the whole thing With you is You like Like, Sean, you're going to go in there shoot the motherfucking club up. You ain't, you ain't playing no games.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I'm coming to get it off. Listen, this nigga not playing. He, listen. That nigga, nigga, nigga, never seen the condo me like. Yeah. I can push it off the bed. What the fuck is, damn? I'm going to be.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I got tested last week. I ain't got nothing. Better think, bring the doctor in here. Tell her real quick. I know this shit going to go, that actually was a little bit of my game because having, having lupus, I got to get blood work. Like sometimes it was like every week
Starting point is 00:20:14 But now by the now it's like every three weeks And they test everything So I got my paperwork on death At all the time So I'm like I'm clean I don't know what I'm good Let's get nasty
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah He run around with the paperwork And a doctor test it At all times I keep the doctor on cold Take her blood work real quick That fact take her too Before we get this pop
Starting point is 00:20:35 And let's get her blood work together And then therefore 12 kids later Here we are Damn 12 I ain't know you had 12 I thought he was at like eight I said 12 kids I got a whole case of eggs
Starting point is 00:20:48 God damn I got five I felt like I had a lot Damn no we're over here You haven't anymore yeah I don't know I think I'm good right now I feel like I'm done You get a condom contract right now
Starting point is 00:20:59 Unbelievable John Only way he gets Only way he gave the boys His dick go out on it His piece I think I'm done though I think I think 12 is a solid number It's the number of the constellations
Starting point is 00:21:11 the disciples the months i think i was thinking old right you know as you get older like my grandmom and shit you call all the kids the wrong name raleigh i mean god damn it was two i got 12 i got to remember we got that powerful beautiful oh hey look that's shit now all that shit yeah but i got five beautiful girls and seven boys so damn that's the motherfucker yeah i'm girls boys these that's what i man i'm so scared that's how you know that's how you know you're a good guy in life because anytime a guy have a bunch of kids and it's all girls you know he's a fucked up individual. Yeah, he ain't shit.
Starting point is 00:21:43 That's the player's curse, right? He got chick nuts. That's crazy. That's some crazy shit. No, shout out to everybody who was a girl dad because that shit is not easy, man. Yeah, but I'm saying you had one or two. All right, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:21:56 You got six girls, buddy. Yeah, that shit is, man. Ah, you got chick nuts. Six girls, no boys. That's what I'll go, I'll sit down. I'll go sit down and do 25 for my daughters. I would at this point, just because I always say, like, I'll be saying that
Starting point is 00:22:12 I was like, man, I hope all my daughters are lesbians just because I say, listen, Wado, like, I say that, no, I believe want to love. But I'm just talking about just pure disputes. Like, if there's a woman on woman disputed, my daughter got beef
Starting point is 00:22:30 with her girlfriend, you better knuckle up. If a man puts his hands on my daughter, I've got to go sit down. And I got five, chances like I don't I tell my boys like yo if your sister ever says somebody harassed her touched her you handle that because if it get to me daddy going to sit down like I've done a lot of amazing things about it's time take all this shit off because I want to do whatever you did
Starting point is 00:22:58 to my daughter I want to do to you times team and that's just how we feel about our daughters like and I got five of them and I'm like I'm an ain't shit-ass nigga but I'll never put my hands on somebody. So hopefully I'm giving him in protecting my daughters and giving them as much game as I can to prepare them for the world, but you can't never prepare them for some knucklehead little nigger that just want to get Rai-Rah and put their hands on
Starting point is 00:23:20 But I think an ain't shit-ass nigger is a nigga who just wants a vagina and he don't want to bring nothing to the table. You bring a lot to the table. I mean, I appreciate it. And there's a lot of girls out here that's fucking with ain't shit-ass niggas. All he getting is D&P, dick and props. Yeah, they ain't getting nothing else. Nigger lay them down, spray them down, but they
Starting point is 00:23:36 don't stay around. Nah, talk that time. They say, what do you bring it to the table? I say, what you bring it to the table? I said, bitch, another table? Damn. That's real.
Starting point is 00:23:47 But yeah, we all go eat. That's real. What you bring it? Multiple tables in this. What you bring it to the table? I want the whole cook out. All these tables. They're my tables.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Like, how old was you when you, when that bank account got real serious and you was like, I'm that nigger? I still don't feel that way. I make a lot, a lot of money. But it's just like when you're running a business, We just talk about this It takes money to make money Yes it do
Starting point is 00:24:10 And especially as I'm putting on I'm afraid of the The MC Hammer Energy Yeah that 30 million He was on and even like Because 30 million today Ain't really
Starting point is 00:24:21 That 30 million back then It was like 300 million You know what I mean And he was just trying to put on For his community He put on an amazing show And then looked up And it was gone
Starting point is 00:24:31 So no matter how much I generate Like even talk about like you know, hundreds of millions of stuff. I want to be able to sit on that and never have to work again if all of these cameras cut off. If another pandemic come, if another cancellation come. Right now,
Starting point is 00:24:47 we're generating crazy bread. So I still, but I don't feel like I've made it. Like, even regardless if it's the movies, the TV shows, I'm still you know, like 1003,000 say, you only funky is your last cut. Borgers on the past, your ass to be a has what?
Starting point is 00:25:03 It's just like, we're trying to get to that next bag. So as I'm creating all of these TV shows, as I'm building all these platforms, I'm thinking what's that sustainable income that my kids, kids, kids is going to that generational wealth. And that's what, it's a few of us that have figured it out. But other
Starting point is 00:25:19 like, as much as we want to say we're a boss, you're not really a boss until you don't have to work no. Right. So. My fucker told me you ain't got no money if you know how much money you got. Oh, I'm like that one. I was like, damn. You're right.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I know exactly how much money is in the bank. I'm fucked. Yeah, because it's about what you're generating because, you know, we can have a $100 million year and then we have a $50 million year and then we get out another, yeah, like it's, and it all depends. They still some good years, don't say that like that. It's a lot of money moving around and like your point. I'm trying to get it to everybody, you know what I mean? And I'm comfortable, you know what I mean? If I wanted to stop and go on an island and take care of me and my kids, I could. Yeah, I just don't.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I feel like there's so much more to get, and I feel like I'm just getting to it. So when people ask me, like, how you know when you made it? How much money? What was that? I don't, it ain't happen yet, especially because when you see these young boys out here,
Starting point is 00:26:14 like, I'm inspired. I'm getting $10 million dollars publishing and $50 million. I'm like, oh, it's like that. Crazy publishing. Like, oh, okay, these is getting real bags. Like, let me get back in the game and figure it out and sign this artist and produce this tracking. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:30 Like, especially when you have the ability to do multiple things. I don't feel like I've, I've, hit that mark yet because I did come up with cats like Kanye. I did come up looking up to Jay and puffing, watching their money moves. So I'm like, all right, well,
Starting point is 00:26:46 until I could sit back like that. And because I think I'm a, like one thing, I probably could have taken advantage, I will say, of the business aspect of what the music industry and even the film and television industry, but I want to give people opportunities. So I never sign people
Starting point is 00:27:02 to, I never signed them in general. I would just help them out. So I don't get nothing. I just want to see Katz win. So if I had that more CEO mentality, shots out to Frisco Chuck right there, who is, who runs the music department. He's like, man, you got to start signing these people.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Which one? Chuck right there. Like the Incredible Gang Capo right there. The Shug Night of Incredible Game. Yeah, he'd be on his shit. I do just talk about my man, no smile. Oh, yeah, yeah. Now, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:27:27 That's the thing. That's the guy that don't get fuck with it. He doesn't chuckle at all. My nigga not playing. He wanted to smile really. a nigga did like this. Well, see, matter of fact, that's what we should put. William Waller going to be on Wild and out.
Starting point is 00:27:39 We were trying to figure out what games we should play with. They all play a game called On the Gang, where the goal is to make tough niggas laugh. You can't. That nigga not lie. I see it really, he said, yeah. Yo, so,
Starting point is 00:27:54 yeah, he do be laughing the most, though. Well, we're going to play on the game. We got the whole gang in here. But, nah, I say all of that to say, though. You're some real shit When you, you know, when you When you surround yourself with cats Especially talented people
Starting point is 00:28:10 I feel like you want to allow them You set them up to win So I don't want nobody's publishing I don't want, I don't want The only thing I really want back Is the money I invested See Chuck to him by heat dude Like I don't want that
Starting point is 00:28:24 Signed that people where Give me your life I don't want to do Gilly like you did him man I don't work him out I still got the publishing Still got the fucking publishing They go get me duck backwoods and motherfucked sodas and orange juice.
Starting point is 00:28:37 But that's why we started future superstars so we can teach, not only we can show everybody how the industry works, but we can give young people from, we went from hood to hood, giving out, you know, thousands of dollars to young up and coming. Shout out for y'all coming to Philly. Y'all came to Philly show Philly some love. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:52 That was major, you know what I mean? And y'all, y'all got, man, everybody knows. Philly got talent. Yeah. We just told up with Ishikibibibibbles. Yeah. Iska Bibbles. They can walk over, Nick, over there.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I'm like, Nick who. Like Nick Kenner, I'm like, what? The fuck is he doing next door? Just chilling. Yeah, give me a chicken cheese. Yeah, he just chill. With the works. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:29:13 That's a beauty, like where you can go to any hood and get love. But bring love and resources. Yeah, yeah. That's major to be able to do that for people. Because, you know, people, like you said, there's so many talented people. I don't care if you go to Compton, you go to Harlem, you go to Oakland, you go Miami. It's people, but they don't have the resources. And people just don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:33 No matter how much. much we think because now we got the phone all this information out there people still don't get it yeah they still just don't know until you see it and fill it so for y'all to come into the community that's major yeah now well i mean that's why y'all here man y'all such fixtures i even got to ask y'all question i mean one building this empire that y'all built but the level like y'all i don't know if you know it enough y'all changing lives like people it's kids that ain't really thinking about being d boys or rappers on one day they're listening to you telling them it ain't about the life, but then they're watching y'all win
Starting point is 00:30:05 daily and like, I want to do that. I want to be able to speak positively into my hood and I'm feeling it. Like even as I talk to the young people, we go to schools and talk all the time, I'm feeling people say, I want to be like Gillian Wallow. Like, did y'all ever think that, especially you, man?
Starting point is 00:30:23 I mean, sitting down like, was this the plan to be able to build something like this? I mean, my plan was just, I just always work. You know what I mean? I just always. But did you step back and be like, look what we built Like, we're inspiring young people I really don't look at it like that Because I look at
Starting point is 00:30:38 The way my bank account is right now It's been supposed to be like that So I look like I'm behind a eight ball So I feel like, I feel like, okay Y'all finally let me in the door Watch me run these nickers down Yeah, nah, that's exactly how I feel So when we talk about like, oh, you guys
Starting point is 00:30:56 Like, I was like, nah, they find, I'm gonna keep cooking while the pot is hot, they let me in here I feel like they're gonna kick me out again And I know, I know, you know, Like, people see us, they see us all the time. First of all, when I was in jail, 2012, Gilly had been talking about my million dollar game since then.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Wow. It was just him on Instagram saying, I'm going to be your main house. All the young niggas out there don't chase bitches, chase money because when you got money, bitches chase you. Right. So it was like, it was like.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I was doing that shit back when it was only 15 seconds on Instagram. Right, right, right. Then it went up to a minute. And then one day I said, I'm going to give y'all a chance to ask me any questions y'all want, I'm going to give y'all some game on it. When I did that, that shit went retardant. That shit wasn't stupid. but I'm talking about out of this.
Starting point is 00:31:34 When you got something special. So then... That God energy. Five years later, while he'll come home. He wasn't even thinking about doing it. And then I sent him up. It was early in the morning.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I'd be... Because I'm one of the... Me and him got two different parts to play. That's what makes us good. Yeah. I'm not going to do what he do. He ain't going to do what I do. If I'm out of pocket, he's going to check me.
Starting point is 00:31:52 If he out of pocket, I'm going to check him. And there's no nuts. We ain't got to worry about money. We got that. Your family, too. We both own this shit, 50-50. Everything is business with us. but we know our lanes.
Starting point is 00:32:04 So it's like, I'm gonna be the one to do all the research, do all that shit, because, listen, this is what it is. I called him one morning, because Spotify gave out like $400 million to podcasts. $421 million. In the first quarter of 2019, I called him early in the morning. So that's from January to April, they gave out $200 million. I said, get the $400 million. I said, get up, because read this.
Starting point is 00:32:24 He read it later on that afternoon when I had the LLC. I had the trademark, I had the logo done, and I said, we're running this shit. we came out April 17th April 17th Yeah, April 17th 2019 We went number two
Starting point is 00:32:39 In comedy And number four In all categories In Apple In ours Wow I said listen I said we're gonna go
Starting point is 00:32:46 Get these advertisers I went and got the advertisers All independent Six months later You went and got the advertisers Yeah The advertising This is the advertisers
Starting point is 00:32:53 And I think a lot of dudes On podcasts Oh they got a car dealership Come on Friend of our home Come on I went and deal with that Fuck the conventional
Starting point is 00:33:00 joints I had a funeral I'll think y'all understand the power in that because the way the podcast system is built it's these ad sales team that empower, that's how everybody able to get this. When you got the relationships with it, because I was like you're your own sales team. Because I was like, y'all going
Starting point is 00:33:16 off of CPMs and the money y'all trying to give up the way I'm going to put this deck, this deck is like, listen, Nick, we're going to promote while and out in May and I was River game for a minute. Under each caption on the post, because we was one of the first dudes traveling podcasts, then we was one of the first that was putting clips up
Starting point is 00:33:31 religiously where we had clipped the podcast up and put 15 clips in a week of that and under each joint I'm telling you on his deck under each clip that we put up on his page and my page and we're going to put
Starting point is 00:33:42 presented to you by Nick Cannon Wiling out so they like that because that's so many that's his eyeballs so we're saying it your logo coming up so we was like that
Starting point is 00:33:51 so I'm like we're going to go get that I just kept coming to him because I got this band I got 20,000 from the car dealership I got this like we was killing them like independently So when we went to bars, too, we was like,
Starting point is 00:34:02 oh, no, this is how much money we make on paper already. They see, they're like, oh, shit. So they're like, so what's y'all going to do? Wow, that you do. They said, you do. You get the lion's share when you had a little lion at the table. And like, now we was ever to, we was ever to be in a position where as though, we own everything we the fuck do. We wasn't playing no games because we've seen people in the space already.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And we like, these people ain't, they don't own that. We did the research. Got to talk to some lawyers. No, they don't own. this. They don't own this. We made sure we owned their thing to trade more. We own everything. So it was like when it was time from Bittin War was last year. We had an unbelievable Bidmore. Shout out to
Starting point is 00:34:38 Spotify. Shout out to Amazon. But salute our partners, Barsu, because they wasn't playing. And things that went right for us. And even the genius in choosing Barstool because they had such a different demographic and you guys were the only one. So y'all stuck out over there. And one
Starting point is 00:34:54 thing about them is sad. A lot of times with our companies, you're visionary, but unlike you, a lot of times, we don't invest in tomorrow. We'd be just sweating right now. Oh, you're the shit right now. Oh, you went, these motherfuckers thinking about five years later. Oh, no, your projection.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Y'all going to be here. So we're going to cash y'all the fuck out. Yeah. Like, Dave Portino. Especially when they know what they bring. Dave and over there. Dave said, wow. Gil, I got a blank check.
Starting point is 00:35:18 What the fuck y'all want? We got 30, 40 men, all these shit on the table. He said, fuck all that. What y'all want? What y'all want? Because. And to keep your ownership. I know the value.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Oh, yeah, always license deal. I know y'all value in. We got a bunch, we got an unbelievable partnership with advertisers all around the world because Dave is a genius motherfucker I said we had a couple times. You already know. We went and ate pizza a few times.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah, yeah. For no reason. He jeans, but let me tell something and I'm going to say this to the podcasters out there. Nothing, and he could tell you this. Don't nothing move out there. I don't give a fuck if you got content. This world revolve around ad sales.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Facts. It revolve around marketing. If you go to a basketball game, it's going to be logos, the name of the arena. It's a brand. The floor, brand, the seats for brand. If you, Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:36:04 brand, brand, brand, brand, brand, brand, brand. College game, brand, brand, brand, brand. This world is one big, one big commercial. One big commercial. The money coming, they get money from ad revenue. Right. Company's going to come.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Oh, you've got to put this in. Media spins. Add something to this too. And this is the difference between black people and white people right now. You look at all the top white podcasts in the world. Joe Rogan do ads. Call her daddy do ads. We start making fun of the things because you got ad.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Oh, you got ad? That's the money. That's the money. Pat Maccafee got ads. Crime stories got ads. Crime junkies. Crime junkies got it. You look at the top podcast in the world.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Then you look at the top. Amazon is a big ad. Right. You look at the top black podcasts in the world. That's not Amazon. You only got a couple niggas doing ads. And I still, that's the money. I had niggas on our Instagrams joking on us because we do ads know because we get money.
Starting point is 00:36:58 We get money. We understand the game. Uh, uh, excuse me. Six niggas on the couch and no air reads us. Y'all niggas playing games.

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