Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - REMY MA & PAPOOSE: MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 224

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

We got some legends in the building: power couple Remy Ma and Papoose! You already know Remy Ma is the queen of rap, straight outta the BX, repping hard for the East Coast. She's got bars for days and... has been killing the game since day one. Papoose, her hubby, ain't no joke either. This dude's got flows that'll make your head spin, and he's been holding it down for New York for years. In this episode, we're diving deep into their journey as artists, their come-ups, and how they keep it real in the industry. We'll be talking about their love story, their struggles, and how they balance being parents and still killing it in the rap game. These two are the definition of a power couple, and they're dropping gems left and right.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mworthofgame

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad free on Amazon Music. Right. Get your tickets right now. Million dollars worth of game times. Gilly Fest, my birthday party. It's going on.
Starting point is 00:00:18 It's going on. I told y'all we was introducing somebody every day. So far, we introduced, G. Herba. We introduced Babyface Ray. Fenest two times. Fenest two times. That's hilarious. And Rob 4-9.
Starting point is 00:00:31 It's going down. But let me see him. Listen, he was going to be 50 years old, man. Fuck out. How are you going to come out and celebrate this? He's going to be a half-100. It's cool. Listen, you better get your tickets.
Starting point is 00:00:40 We got, listen, and we still going to keep announcing. Yes, we are. Hit the link, get your tickets right now. It's going down. That's right. A million dollars worth a game. Listen, you're ready to check out another episode. What you need to do buy some merch.
Starting point is 00:00:49 You definitely need to subscribe and share to all million dollars worth of the game. We got a bunch of different shows coming out. It's going down. But this Gilly Fest, for his birthday, a half-hundred. We celebrate July 29th in Philadelphia is going down. Listen, we're going to be announcing some more people. But get your tickets. If you're not here, you're going to be upset.
Starting point is 00:01:05 And guess what? It's only $75. Hmm. All these acts, $75? $75. It's going down, man. This is some shit you don't want to miss. And most importantly, Gilly and Wallow are going to be there.
Starting point is 00:01:19 A million dollars worth of going to be there turning the stage up. And it's just like that, right? You're now too. them didn't tell, me, me, me, me, me, me, million dollars worth a game. Listen, man, this is the marriage edition, man. This is going down, man. Listen, man, first of all, before we even get started, we got to acknowledge something that's very important that we don't hear too much in our community.
Starting point is 00:01:37 This year is the 15th year anniversary of their marriage, man. They commitment to one another. They've been through the ups and downs. They never gave up on each other, and they're still here. They're loving each other. They're making money together. And then they show in the world what it can look like, and guess what? They're from the hood, too.
Starting point is 00:01:52 They're really from the hood. You know what I mean? He was just telling us the story. about when he first met Remy and I was like, damn, yeah, it was like that. And it was just like, you know, they got the back and forward, but I don't even know what that's about. But he's going to say, but listen, I got to give a shout out of the rim. She brought me the whole shabang.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And this nut-ass thing is ready to cry. Anybody that do you. Listen, man. She understands the struggle. For her to bring the whole shebangs, she understands. You know, anybody that was ever in the joint, I don't care of you from California, wherever the, listen, you know, the meal is not right without these right here. This is like your seasoning, you crack it up, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:24 Oh, you just could not. all by itself, you eat your bagel with it. But if you're making a real mix-up, I'm talking about, if you're making that series, a Chi-Chi or that, there's nothing like this, man. The whole is your bang. Like, I don't know you want to open these. Like, I'm going to put these in like a frame or something
Starting point is 00:02:36 and just put them right there. She said, now, listen, y'all. She says, you're going to make sure I get a case of them. I'm going to get a case of them. You're going to help me out with that, man. I'm going to send you a case. When she lives, they sell them. She brings them something when she's out of my house.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I'm going to make sure she buys a case and I'm going to send it to you. So what's your cousin be like, yeah, I knew you did some time. So, bam, because it's a surprise. You probably like these. And I'd be really excited. Like, thank you. They'd be back. Did you ever make a hookup in the crib for him?
Starting point is 00:03:01 No, I did it. Oh, you know, she's doing you wrong. She's not, no, she's doing you wrong. She got to, she got to make him a cheeceece. No word, no, she never, she never gave her. She could cook her ass off, but she ain't ever cooked me ass. She got to do one of them, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:15 Let's pull his table a little closer. She got, my man. She cook her ass off. You know what I mean? She'd get crazy in the kitchen. She ain't never whip it up. Nah, she ain't never give me that one. Hold up before.
Starting point is 00:03:23 What was your favorite? You wouldn't understand. So, anything with noodles, like, the amazing things you could do with the back of ramen is, it's just crazy. But it's so crazy because our kitchen, we're remodeling the kitchen right now. So I took everything and moved it, like, into the guest room downstairs in the basement. So I have, like, a small refrigerator down there, microwave. I got, like, this little pot that I used to boil water for tea. So my daughter, she's like,
Starting point is 00:03:49 Mommy, I'm hungry, and I'm like, I didn't feel like it was too late to order anything. So I made some spaghetti and meatballs, so I put the spaghetti in the hot pot. Oh, la. Before you that, I did the, um, I did the meat bowls. So, so my daughter comes down, she's like, Mommy, how did you make this with no kitchen?
Starting point is 00:04:07 Like, well, Mommy was in prison before. He's like, don't tell her that. I'm like, why are you telling her that for? She needs to understand. Like, she used to understand how this happened. That was the exact response. Had I'm not because, that's what. what happened had I not went through that I wouldn't know how to make no
Starting point is 00:04:20 dance spaghetti and meatballs with a damn tea kettle like what are you talking about and it was fire right but use a little packet from from the oodles and noodles so it was crazy right now is we going to swag way into when is the the Remy Ma cook book coming because he said you know how to cook cook cook she do you get crazy in the kitchen I mean you know what I never thought about doing a cookbook one time somebody presented it to me
Starting point is 00:04:44 and it just seemed like a lot like I literally would have to make everything and have the measure because when you know how to cook you don't measure stuff you just do it you just make it happen i'm like i don't got time for this like i'll do it some other time but i do so much that that's like on the list of things to do but it's not at the top like i feel like i do a lot of other things that i enjoy i cook but i don't cook because like it's my passion it's just i cook because i know how to cook that that's just it like you at any given moment i hold door dash i do not care here we go that's order you're going to go at the restaurant, I like to eat out, but I do know how to cook, but I never, like, was into
Starting point is 00:05:20 the old. I don't even think, I like, people really having my recipes. I like, like, knowing how to make, like, people come over and eat, and they're surprised that, I mean, knows how to cook. I'm like, bro, like. I'm so glad she was home for a while now, because when she first came home, she was acting like she was still locked up. What was she doing? She was putting labels on stuff in the refrigerator. I was like, oh, babe, you home now. You ain't got, everything is for everybody. Who ate my such and such? I'm like, yo, no, everything is Not for everybody. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:05:46 You gave up with some jail shit. You know, why? You know the cadm juice, the grape juice? When you luck, you get it from like the people, the Jewish people, they get it. Like, that's the only time you get the juice. So you're like, I need this. This is my condemned. Like, I can go to a supermarket and buy gallons of it.
Starting point is 00:06:05 That's mine. Do not touch my grapes. Did you touch my kids? Did you touch it? Did you touch it? Did you touch it? Did you touch it? Not.
Starting point is 00:06:10 He'll do you. You got to understand. When she was going, me, myself, you know what I'm saying? my snaps on the kids. Anything in the refrigerator, it's for everybody. She came home like, nah, that ain't what it is no more. No. Damn, she came on regularly.
Starting point is 00:06:20 It's mine. Yeah, she didn't. All I'm just saying is, I refuse to believe that Remney is putting her name on juices in the refrigerator. I didn't put my name more. It's just mine's on touch it. She stopped now. No? No.
Starting point is 00:06:33 She's been home. Oh, now I don't put it in the refrigerator. Now it's other places. Now you're not even going to find it. So she had an own refrigerator. She was labeling everything, though, folks, spoons. I was like, you're wild. Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, Jill.
Starting point is 00:06:43 shit she brought home with her because I know what she was she eating fast that's a good question I didn't notice if she did no I wasn't because you know how it is when you and you chowdy they got they're getting you in and out of there real quick um see mine's a little bit different I was like up the whole time I was in jail I never really went to the mess on oh she was a lunch she like uh they bought my shit to myself like I went like if it was grilled cheese or like baked chicken spaghetti and meatballs and spinach that's stuff That's about it.
Starting point is 00:07:14 One thing she did that I respected when she first came home, I never forget it when I picked up. And we came to the clip because at that time, we lived in the Bronx. We lived in the building, you know what I mean? And when she came to the door, she took them clothes off before she wasn't in the crib, left them in the hole. I said, what you're doing? She said, I don't want to bring these clothes into my crib.
Starting point is 00:07:31 No, that's because they violated. They didn't let me come home the day I was supposed to come home. And then they wouldn't let me. I had like that Tom Ford boots at the crate. They wouldn't let me wear my outfit. They literally approved my clothes. And then it was time for me to leave. because there was so much media out there,
Starting point is 00:07:45 they was like, oh, we don't want people to think that this is what it is in here and they literally made me leave in my same greens. Initially, though, they did the bullshit, so check it. I launched the whole family up there, a mother, my family, anybody. We went up there deep. We had the farming cars, anything.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Making the movie. My wife's been going seven years. Yeah, we got to make sure she right. So this is the day she'd get out. We've been waiting for this day forever. So we out there in front of the facility and they never let her out. I was key block.
Starting point is 00:08:09 We out there for hours and hours. We're like, what's going on? So anybody leave. I get on the phone, I start calling the lawyers, calling anybody. I ain't really getting no answers. Because he never listened to me the whole time. Every time something happened to me and Jay, he's like, I'm calling a lawyer. Like, they mean nothing in here.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Because they got their own lawyers in there. Get all my nerves. I'm calling the lawyer. But look at the second shit, though. Look at the second shit. She mapped her whole shit out, like she said, the Tom Ford outfit and anything. When they got on the phone with me, do you know they told me, they said she can't walk out of here like that. We don't want, you know, they didn't want people to see her walking out there with her head up, proud.
Starting point is 00:08:43 They weren't a lot. They tried to take it. They literally told me that. They said, yo, come get your wife, but you got to come by yourself. The next day. Man, nigga. Where's drawn? I ain't gonna lie I did it, though.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I wanted to get her to fuck about it. You're fucking right. I'd add anybody around the caller. Oh, man. Soon as she came out. Fuck you. You know. She maxed out.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Fuck you, Wharton! I never drove that fast. I actually didn't max out. Oh, you didn't. All right. I just shut the fuck up. They had me a post release the whole five. Like, they didn't.
Starting point is 00:09:13 literally the whole five years I had a curfew from day one to the last day of the fifth year like I had well actually towards the end I kind of fake caught another case so I had an ankle bracelet on but um yeah they had to cut that well we never even knew about that no you know about you probably just forgot I tried to get sued somebody ended up with a black eyes oh yeah right the bitch what like but before we go any further I'm smoking pussy Did I say that again? I'm smoking pussy charms. And who on that?
Starting point is 00:09:48 Uh, Remy. I came bearing gifts. I bought them. Yes, she did. She bought me a strain and it, because I, you know, I was like, I eat there to tell her, she's some ducking. She might sock me like she did the bitch. It's fire or not?
Starting point is 00:10:09 It's fire. What was it about? You're telling me when I opened that bag of a book, well, you got some good shit. Listen, listen, but the design is just like... Yes, the design. I actually sat with my friend Flo, she owns Coco Nugs. It's like the... It looks like chocolate.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Well, it looks like weed buds, but it's actually chocolate. Out in Cali. And we sat down and thought of it, like the... From the picture, we was Googling down to putting the jury on it. Then I'm like, okay, I want the... If it's pussy charms, the inside of the bag, got to be pink. Like, I want the inside of the bag, pink. I want to open in the middle.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Like, it was a lot of things that went into, And then we put it together, we sent it over, over the waters, waited a couple of weeks, and it was up from there. I know it's a lot of weed strains out there, but this is the best. So I like me. So Friday's going to me leaving, I was like the female snoodoo. Like, I was the one that, like, I remember the day, I was probably still in high school.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I was like, I'm never smoking garbage weed ever again. Like, this is just never happening. So I was the one, like, when I, I remember when I used to run into math and reading them, they'd see me in the Bahamas. Like, I didn't care where I was like, me, the risk of going. Going to jail was not greater than the risk of me being somewhere without weed. So, like, I always had the bud. I know what the fuck you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Look at that little girl. I know what the fuck you're talking about. That's him. Like, you're like, yeah. But if I don't, if I go over there with no weed, it's going to be really bad. So, like, I was the one that always had the bud. They used to run down to me. Oh, Ram, I know you got it.
Starting point is 00:11:33 You know what I don't. Like, so when it came to me with the weed situation, I was like, I cannot have, I cannot not have the fire. That is very, very important to me. Even though now the crazy shit, because they had me in cage so long, my tolerance is different. I can't even smoke how I used to smoke. Like, I literally have somebody that gets me haze.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Like, I'm a fan of Hayes. So I get somebody that gets me. She got this good shit. She wants that old shit. I got something in my bag. I'm going to give you some of my shit. Give me some of that old shit. She won 2,004 a week, but she got this good shit.
Starting point is 00:12:08 She got this 20, 23. That great shit. If I'm walking around and I'm sitting here with y'all, I'll do haze. If I'm in the house, I know I'm not going to go nowhere. Then I'm, then we can do pussy charms. Me personally. This is you going to put you down. But you experienced smokers, you know, y'all want to put your chombolemy.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Now, I see you got Chrome 23. How did that come about? How did that come about? Because first of all, you, you know, you wasn't playing no game when you first came in the game. Wait, hold on, hold on. Before she came in, but when we go to the brother, she bought his jackets to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah, I mean, she laced us. You see what's going on. That's what? I was super excited about this. 100% will. 100% of the... Soon again, put the shit on. He said,
Starting point is 00:12:47 this shit heavy, too. That's shit heavy, they're cheap shit, no, Daniel Levers, who makes everybody's leathers and furs. He got the real deal. He did all my varsity jacket.
Starting point is 00:12:58 All my hats is from New Era. She's not point. I'm very big on, like, if you're going to have a product, I want it to be able to wear it. Like, you can have to like to my logo. Like, I wanted to be able to, be something that I would wear regular like when people give me something they got that big
Starting point is 00:13:15 stupid logo like where am I going with this like it has to make sense and I put all of that and so what I do but as far as let's create in the the battle league it came from a place where one of my close friends she's a battle rapper what's my name um miss hustle miss hustle she's a battle rapper and um we used to talk a lot I was to go to her battles I watched it I come from battle rap from those that don't know and I didn't understand how women were doing so good in hip hop, like right now it's probably like the best time ever
Starting point is 00:13:47 for female rappers. Ever. Ever in life. No, I absolutely played a part in that. Absolutely. You know what y'all did for female rappers, though? Female rappers used to have to be a part of a click to get on. Yeah, now you can just be you.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Y'all came in, and when y'all came in, y'all was so hot that y'all made motherfuckers say, okay I'm gonna pay attention to what she got to say I'm gonna pay attention when Kim had to have a click Foxy Brown was with some niggas with Jade affirmed
Starting point is 00:14:20 you was with fat Joe just look at all the women they always had some connection to some type of nigga that was popping now they don't need that because y'all knocked the walls then I like what you just said it's a lot of value to people from our era a lot of people don't know that
Starting point is 00:14:36 what you just said for us we got that experience and each one teach one stuff like that is why there's so much value in people from our era. Right. But what I was saying is, all right, boom, we changed the trajectory of how things are playing out for females and hip hop. Most highest paid
Starting point is 00:14:52 tours, record sales, everything. Endorsement, sponsorships. Why wasn't that transitioning over into battle rap? Like, in battle rap, you'll have, like, one of the biggest, hottest dudes in battle rap might get somewhere near $100,000 for a battle where the biggest female
Starting point is 00:15:08 in it might have cracked 10,000. Right. 10,000. That's like, to me, that pay gap is wild crazy, especially considering that had I not had the opportunities that I had, that could have been me. I'd have been a chick, dumb nights, could write, say, whatever, and I think you're trying to, nah, we're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I need, we run in somebody's son. Like, this is just not going to work. So I was like, all right, boom, I'm going to start my own league. I mapped it out, came up with an idea. I wanted a name first. I was like, I want a name that means something. So, chromosome 23 is, for those that don't know, it's the chromosome in your DNA that determines whether you're a male or a female.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And I'm like, chromosome 23 sound a little scientific. I'm like, chrome 23 sound crazy because it's going to be like, no, it's different ways that you can play with it. I came up with the name. I made an LLC, I made an I-N-C, S-Corps, but I did all of that. I took some bread from my account, put it into that account, and I just started calling people, y'all. I'm going to try to get you in this car.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I'll try to get you in this matchup. I did that first, my first card, crazy. I had High 97 pretty much running through their live stream. So we had, I don't know, three, four million people tuned in for like seven, eight hours straight. It went great. As the year went by, I just started it last year as the year went by. I'm like, damn, why is it that when, you know, these other leagues throw a battle and they got all guys on it? Like, they packed the building, they pay for you in that business, right?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Well, they was like, what am I doing wrong? Like, why are they not attracted to these women? So I made sure that I invested in hair and makeup, like wardrobe. I'm out there, styling everybody. But then it still wasn't working. I'm like, all right, cool. So I came out. I was like, you know what I'm going to do?
Starting point is 00:16:50 I'm going to pick some of the hottest males, make them one battle, give them the main event, and then I'm going to put all the chicks that I think is fire on the undercard. Right. It's been great ever since. It's been crazy. Right. Like, it's been crazy ever since. And I think, I think for you to be a successful.
Starting point is 00:17:08 you know, rap league, you've got to concentrate on everything. The guy's got to get the same opportunity as to women. You know what I mean? They have to. You can't be just all female or male. You got to do both. Because what you're saying is, you know, with the other rap leagues,
Starting point is 00:17:23 you're not seeing the women get the same opportunity as the men. So when you come in, you lean towards the women, but you also get them in the same opportunity as well. You know what I mean? So that it could be, no, this shit is equal. But what was so crazy, it's not just battle rap because now I am still who I am.
Starting point is 00:17:41 So I could take them up to Joe Buttons. I could go to Hollywood and sit there with Jason Lee. I could call up TMZ and be like, yo, I got this big event coming or Rolling Stone is doing the art of core or whatever. So I definitely use my Remy Mindness and steer it where I needed to be steered. But I feel like since in the one year that I've been here,
Starting point is 00:18:00 what? I said somebody that I shouldn't talk about. No, you said you could talk about anybody, but you just said anybody about a million dollars a guy. You come here too, God-dabbit. This is my first time here. This is my first time here. You could have been trying to get this here for a while. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:18:20 The invitation been extended for a while. But I definitely feel like all of the things that is me is changing things. And like most situations, people don't really like when things change or things is different. But, yeah, Chrome 23 is not going anywhere. You know what I like, what I like that you're doing is, and I need to say this, there's a lot of solid people that was in the industry. Everybody from back in the day, you've got a lot of good people that went through this industry that might have got them wrong, solid, that got great relationships.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I like the fact that you're building a new company and you're picking up the phone. It's so many people that's afraid to pick up the phone and connect with their resources. I'm talking about it's a lot of money on the table. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you even look at your husband. You know, he over there to hit a hip hop at Tune Corps right now. You know what I mean? You got Chrome 23
Starting point is 00:19:06 You got the weed Y'all got a bunch of shit Going on You've been in movies You've been in movies You've got a new album You're working on So it's like
Starting point is 00:19:11 Man listen If you're breathing You still got a shot Especially if you was a solid motherfucker Right You know You got a lot of pieces
Starting point is 00:19:18 of shit That was out here You got a lot of And you know Me and your husband talked about How you know Coming through the system
Starting point is 00:19:25 A lot more people would be in position from yesterday But it was a lot of niggas Blocking It was a lot of niggas Hating It was a lot of
Starting point is 00:19:32 Usory It was a lot of That's why a lot of times you young people be mindful of these old niggins that y'all be hearing on these podcasts and all this that acting like they're giving up game. When you Google them and go back, you can't get nobody game today if you fuck people over yesterday. You can't be on it until I'm giving up game. It decided, nigga, why you ain't tell nobody about contracts back then when you had niggas and slave deals? So be wary of these old niggas that y'all be watching. You know, these two dudes, all the methods right here, they didn't see some fucked up shit from people that's rolling around now.
Starting point is 00:20:00 They can rebrand themselves like they really give a fuck about the kids. culture, but they was raping motherfucklers. That's one of the things that I make move up to the mic. That's real shit. That's one of the things that I make a priority even when I'm dealing with the artist that I do with my batter rap league, like as far
Starting point is 00:20:15 as taxes. Like, no one tells you about that. Taxes. Like this, knocking on your door, acting crazy. I'm telling them about taxes. I'm telling them about investing. I'm telling them about ownership and things like that. And sometimes in business, it doesn't really work.
Starting point is 00:20:30 But to me, I'm going to always be an artist first. Right. Like, yes, I'm a league owner. Yes, I have all these different companies, but I know how it is to be artists. I know how it is to be fucked over. I know how it is to want to move a certain way. You can't move because somebody got a piece of black and white saying,
Starting point is 00:20:44 you can't do that because we don't want you to do that. Not because it's for your best interest, but because they can't. They got to call somebody else to get approved for you to move. So I never liked that. Like, when I came in, I was doing a freestyle over here, a song with this person, song with that person. When I got my first deal and it's like, oh, wait, I can't do the song. Or, hey, you can't do this song.
Starting point is 00:21:02 We ain't approved a video. Like, I remember when I did the feel so good record with Neal, when I did feel so good with Neil, Neo didn't even have a record deal yet. He was just literally in the studio, writing for people doing whatever. By the time my record came out, and he had a deal like Jeff, death jam.
Starting point is 00:21:17 And they wouldn't approve of it. It's my single, it's a big record. They wouldn't approve him to shoot the video. Like, that's when I first, I think that was like my first taster, like, oh, they are some bullshit. Yeah. This is crazy. And I could help you really go to the next,
Starting point is 00:21:28 that fuck's your money up. But, but in the long run, I look at it like this. it like this, I look at, like, I remember saying girl when I was young, like, I remember running around saying, like, I look at the people that thought they was above me at that time and then I look at it now, like, I wouldn't trade my life for these shit ever, like, ever, like a lot of times people come into this game, they go from here and they shoot right up and they think that that's what it is. But from being around people like, my brother, Fat Joe, I tell them all the time,
Starting point is 00:22:00 Like, he thinks it, he uses it all the time. But I'm like, yo, one day he's having the conversation. I'm like, yo, you came in in 93. Like, I've seen the people that was next to you or that was past you. They don't have teeth. Right. They look crazy. They're still wearing really, really wide-legged baggy jeans.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Like, they're not doing great. So I'd rather have this career that does this than this. Yeah. Just to add on to what while I was saying, that's a fact which you was talking about how like a lot of people be blocking and shit be real political and that actually stops a lot of dudes like us from growing like it's it's real um i had i had that experience with even with like djs you know what i'm saying envy and i got a lot of respect for envy because he actually admitted it on the breakfast club you can rewind the tape
Starting point is 00:22:48 he said on camera like yo oh i wouldn't play pat record back then because he was k slate artist rest and peace of my brother k slyleck you know what i'm saying and a lot of people felt like that A lot of shit, little sucker shit like that went on. You know what I mean? I heard Gil speak about some of his experiences, you know what I mean? And I salute y'all, you know what I mean? But, bro, I had a lot of bullshit like that put in my way, man. So don't ever think when you see an artist speaking about being blocked
Starting point is 00:23:15 in the music business that is a game. Yeah, it's all fun and jokes. Because some people use it as an excuse for not being successful. But it's a small amount of us. Niggas was really in fear, and they stood in our way. And I'm going to say this is a drama. I'm one of them individuals. But I still found my way, though.
Starting point is 00:23:29 See, I ain't stopping nothing. Shout up to DJ Drama. He came on a million dollars' worth a game and said, oh, yeah, Gillie was on the blackball list. But that was just one of five people that came on here. And I'm going to say this. Admitted that I was on the list. And I'm going to say this. One time we had a clip go viral, and I'm going to put some understanding to it.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And Gil said, man, we get money with the white people. And the reason he said that is because they know, as a lot of people in industry know, a lot of times us black folk, what we do is we are staying in between the money, try to middleman some shit and say, you know what? Papoos, Remmy mom. Somebody didn't want to do a TV show for y'all. They got, you know, they got 20 M's for y'all. They're not going to come and just bring that and say, I get a little fee.
Starting point is 00:24:07 They're going to come and say, listen, man, we went through this show, man. I got 1.5. We're going to bless y'all, this and third. Boom, boom, boom. And they're like, all right, cool. They try to get them to sign them, middleman and shit, block this money. And we and me and get in the scene situations like that. So when we say we get money with the white people, because the white people come in direct.
Starting point is 00:24:22 They're not playing no games. They're going to cash you to fuck out. and they're going to measure your value from here to three years from now, two years from now, and they're going to sock it to your pocket like a rocket. They're not going to see Papoose and Remy and be like, oh, man, y'all doing your thing, y'all the shit, man. Keep doing it.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Nigger, you're in position. Why, it be the shit? What's up? Let's just tell the truth, man. Out of all the companies we was dealing with when we was resigning, shout out to Amazon. Shout to Spotify. Shout out to Spotify.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Shout out the bar stool. When the black company came in, they offered us 40 times less than what the fuck we were no 60 times 60 times less than what we were from us and said that shit like they was don't we're going to offer y'all this what nicks
Starting point is 00:25:05 that shit was a joke that's what wrong with you man I mean you know you you got you got fucked up people man and all different I mean walks of life unfortunately you know what I mean you definitely got some time for me it'd be niggas right
Starting point is 00:25:22 You definitely got, well, I'm going to tell you like this. You definitely got some motherfuckers on that side of the fence, you know what I mean, who will do some bullshit too. Yeah, I got your own experiences. I mean, I respect what y'all went through, you know what I mean? Because, like I said, we all, we all been through child and tribulations and this shit. So we got to speak off that. Experience is the teacher.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Experience is the teacher. So you got to go off of that. When I think of all the people, my list of people that have fucked me over, they're all different because shit look like a rainbow. I can't even pinpoint me. I don't look like a rainbow though Because most of the time my business right So when my business right
Starting point is 00:25:57 I don't end up doing no business with the niggas Because they don't want to do right business But what happened with a lot of times in this industry Especially like with me I started when I was young I was still in high school So I was able to see different things From when I first started
Starting point is 00:26:13 To when I knew a little bit To what I knew what I know now When I first met Steve Rifkin and when I was in high school when I first met Pond like it would be crazy I'd probably be Amazon Like you know what it is too It's a difference between nigger and black
Starting point is 00:26:31 No it's between niggas and black people But I say that all the time huh I fuck with black folks It's a difference between nigger and nigger You got to understand right When they threw us in that cell Get in that cell, nigga Yeah that's a difference
Starting point is 00:26:43 When they murdered us die nigger We ain't talk about that one But let me elaborate So then you got You got house niggas, right? And then you got field niggas. Now, you look at our generation, we flip that shit that to the point where we're like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:26:57 That's my nigger. It's a term of endemic. Those type of individual, that's where I come from. That's what I grew up with. Those are solid, you know what I mean? Real people who are going to make sure you good. Nah, it's the bag over here for Gil. It's a bag for ball.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Hold on, open that door. Show up. Now, the house niggas, those are the ones that's going to do the sucker shit that you're talking about. So it's just like, it's a separation. Like, oh, you know what I mean? But you know what? This is what I want to know from you.
Starting point is 00:27:23 When was it in your career you were trying to go? Did you peep that shit? And was at a moment where you was beat down when you was like, did you feel defeated? And what made you keep going to still be here? Because you're still here amongst all the bullshit. But was it that moment where you was like,
Starting point is 00:27:39 and you realized that, yo, is this shit really happening? In my city in New York? I was fucked up. It fucked me up mentally. Because anybody who know my history I know how I came up I came up standing on the front line when Sean Bell got shot
Starting point is 00:27:53 You know what I'm saying 50 shots I came up Al Sharpton Norman used to call me When things happened And went out there fighting for the people But it hurts your heart Like even when my wife got in her situation When I circle back
Starting point is 00:28:06 You know what I mean Because a lot of people lied in her situation They lied to understand all that When her situation happened And the newspapers was attacking me For no reason every other day They was just doing sucker shit I went to visit my wife.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I had my fucking keys. They said, oh, yeah, the handcuffed key. You tried to break out, wedding can't sue. When they was doing suckers shit to me like that, I circled back to all the same people who I stood on the front line with. And I didn't get no calls back. I ain't get no assistance.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Right. I ain't get no help. Y'all don't call me to be the voice for y'all when I was at the peak of my career. You know what I'm saying? Now that I needed a little assistance, nobody got back to me, nobody supported me.
Starting point is 00:28:40 So that broke my heart for a second in that aspect. But as far as the music side, you know, I came straight off the street. I was young. I had that street mentality and it was like, okay, those is hating on me so now I'm gonna react
Starting point is 00:28:52 and I kind of dug a deeper hole with that like we spoke about earlier who told you everybody was pussy though they triggered you hold up who told you everybody's pussy She crazy All the niggas that you think is real Who told you that?
Starting point is 00:29:05 No, who told you? Who I said, I remember when you first I sat and then I said like name all the rappers that you think is real and I will tell who? No, he's pussy I said he'll get smacking him back of his head and he didn't say now he walked
Starting point is 00:29:16 That was Gil to me. Gil was good to me that game. Oh, he's the worst. She schooled me. She was here before me, so she, I thought this shit was real. You thought everything was real. I thought this shit was real. I thought this shit.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I thought this shit. And that's what fucked me up, because I'm like, okay, niggas is on some street shit. So we're gonna get on some street shit. What happened? I'm like, well, yeah, you can come in here. He's gonna call the cops on you. Wait, who, oh, please leave them a super cop callers. Like, he didn't listen to him.
Starting point is 00:29:40 See, my biggest, my big, when I look back, one of my biggest problems was, I didn't grow up a rapper. So I didn't give a fuck about no rappers I didn't have cable TV I'd never seen rap videos So whereas though Every nigga that I rap we grew up a rapper We get in a room with niggas they like damn That's such and such something like man
Starting point is 00:30:01 Nicka corny and shit We gotta rob the shit out of this nigga Like that's how I'm thinking I was not in awe with no rapper I would have been like that if I seen Michael Jordan Oh shit Diggled George Dr. Jay
Starting point is 00:30:13 So for me it was like niggas was corny man I'm just keeping it real you'll get around niggas and you're like so
Starting point is 00:30:26 see with me it was like and when you don't stroke niggas oh that they that'll get you black I'm a girl right but I tell people
Starting point is 00:30:33 all the time I'm not doing it though I don't bend the rules but I see niggins flocking around niggas and I'm like I'm not doing that man
Starting point is 00:30:39 I'm over here with it man and they're mad at you and they're mad at you I'm not doing that Now they're mad at you. I'm over here. I'm like, now I can't do this type of shit.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I'm not doing that. I've been in them events, bro. I've never been no professional dick host. I don't hold no niggas dick up, man. Yeah, true fact. But I'm not doing that. I'm a girl. But I also tell people like I'm the realest nigga that a lot of people have met before I
Starting point is 00:31:04 grew up around nothing but real niggas. Like all the guys that I go up with, they're in jail with a gazillion years, they're dead or they're like, like, that's just how I grew up. So I know how people are supposed to move. Like you asked that Joe he tell you a time He tells you a time like yo most of the stuff you got into
Starting point is 00:31:20 Because Remba's in the back like yo y'all don't let the niggas get away with that Because the niggas I go away Put the niggas in the house before I'm just like The battery and niggas back Oh the niggas is like I'm just like the niggas that I grew Because the niggas told me from me like yo The niggas you can't bring them niggas because they had to I used to have to cause with me
Starting point is 00:31:36 Like bram we can't eye cool So if I'm with y'nikas we're doing Right They're getting bunk beds and ICU or nah What's what's happening So niggas was on go So when I see certain shit, by time it took me, no amount of time, it was like, oh, this shit beat.
Starting point is 00:31:50 This shit just rap. So when he came and I'm sitting there talking like, we started out, we was friends. I just be sitting there like, I promise you, it's just worse. Listen to me. Please don't set yourself up. By time he realized it, I was like, told you. It was too late.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Because you got to understand. Hell, never. I came fresh off the sidewalk. I know. So I'm like, yo, listen, man, if I ain't play with none of these niggas in the street, I'm damn sure not playing with these industry. You know what I'm saying? But I thought it was going to be love.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I'm like, yo, I'm nice. I know how to rap. It's going to be love. I got a deal now. They're going to support me. And I'm going to see these niggas. I'm hitting Slay. I'm like, yo, Slate.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Hold on, you work at the station. So that means, I'm good now. I'm going to go. He's like, nah, fuck them niggas. We don't need them niggas. I'm only on one night a week. I'm like, what you mean? We don't need these niggas.
Starting point is 00:32:34 We need these nigg. They don't need me day. So I'm going to run down to try to get support and I'm getting resistance. I'm saying, I'm like, damn. So it took me a long time. But why the niggas was mad, though, because with that one night a week, I ended up getting a $1.5 million record deal,
Starting point is 00:32:49 which was a lot at that time. We did that shit with one night on the radio, you know what I'm saying, without support. Eventually, niggas started fucking with me because they realized they didn't have no choice. But, bro, I got a lot of hate. But at the time, it was a bunch of DJs. See, I'm going to keep it all the way real, too.
Starting point is 00:33:07 This kind of, this kind of fucking. shit up too. A bunch of DJs had rappers. So you had like, let me see if I remember this right. Like Green Lantern had somebody. Eventually he didn't. Uncle murder, it wasn't, or somebody?
Starting point is 00:33:22 Okay. Kay Slay had Papoose. DJ Clue. Fat. Have fad. Right? A couple other DJs in New York had rappers. So now
Starting point is 00:33:34 it's like, it's a battle. And niggas. It's like, okay, he hot, but I'm playing my artist because I'm trying to get money now. You feel what I'm saying? This is bigger than just putting the artist on and playing hot records. No, this is actually my artist. I'm trying to turn this into some money.
Starting point is 00:33:51 So if I touch Papu's shit, it's going to be, all right, get that shit out of here. Oh, new such and such. Boom. The same thing Kay Slay was doing for you. You feel what I'm saying? If he's going to touch somebody's shit, that shit will be
Starting point is 00:34:06 jik-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-h. Get that shit out of here. New Pampoos, oh my God. You know, you know Slay was a lot different, though. Slay wanted them, you know. You know what I mean, he don't give a fuck who you is. If you're nice, listen. Slay going to fuck with you.
Starting point is 00:34:19 You go walk in the Slay. Slay going to fuck with you if you're nice. I'm not like you sit here and tell her lie, bro. He was dragging it with you to the point that he was getting in the mind. Nah, no, no, he was one of my haters. No, no, he was one of my haters. She was one of my haters. Nah, nah, nah, nah, no, no, no, hold on this in his back.
Starting point is 00:34:33 She was one of my haters. Slay was one of those guys. She was one of those guys. He played you 86 times to the road, Dave was one of my haters. Tell the truth. He played you 86 times to the road. I was the nicest nigger.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I was the nicest nigger. That shit was more than it. Nah, son, that wasn't what the part. I'm going to tell you the difference. I'm going to break it down for you, Gil. Fab and Clue came way before me. Yeah, they did. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:34:56 When I came and what me and Slate did, I would impact, that's why all them other niggas started getting audited. Because they're seeing, oh, this shit is really reacting. You got to understand. This is Kay Slade model. He don't give a fuck. You just came out the penitentiary or you rap. All right, I'm going to give you one shot.
Starting point is 00:35:11 After that one shot, if you don't capitalize off it and that shit don't connect, it's on you. You're out of here. I'm not going to be sitting here playing this every week. See, the difference with me was when he gave me that one shot, I ran with it. He's seen the burrow behind me. He's seen the movie. So my shit was all authentic.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I won't. I earned my love. You know what I'm saying. So that's why he consistently fucked with me and eventually sign me. You got to understand. I got signed a slave by aggressively going to the radio. I stood in front of the radio station and waited for him. And I'm saying, I got in the situation, I was on rank of silent, and long story short,
Starting point is 00:35:40 I looked around, I said, yo, the only thing beneath being incarcerated is being dead. You got to wait, you ask for permission to use the phone. You got to, I got a visit. I had to switch into the fucking visit clothes. The shit smelled horrific in that motherfucker. I'm like, man, when I get about it here, I'm going to take this music serious. I heard this nigga on the radio, and he was doing some shit that I ain't seen done ever. I've been a student in the hip hop since I was a little nigger.
Starting point is 00:36:07 He was playing new niggas on the radio. I said, when I get out of here, I'm going to go meet that nigger. I ain't hustling no more. I ain't doing none of that shit. He was mad at me. I came home, bro. I recorded seven songs. I made my CD.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I went in the motherfucking encyclical. Yellow pages because we didn't have motherfucking Google and all that shit then. I found the address to Hot 97, 395 Hudson, and I wasn't stood in front of the radio. That nigga, Slade came down. I said, yo, my name is Papoose, man. He said, all right, I kept moving. I went back to the hood. Y'all will be on the radio.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Let's listen. I said, fuck, I'm gonna go back next week. I went back next week, waited for him again. I did that shit again. Yo, my name, Pat Poulson. Same shit, bro. I run back to the hood. He ain't played my shit again.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I said, next week, when I go up there, bro, I'm gonna wait at the station. That way, if this nigga don't play my shit, you're gonna have to tell me why I ain't play my shit. So I'm waiting. I'm in the car. I'm listening to shit. He's going off at 2 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:36:54 It's like 150 something. I said, damn, he ain't play my shit yet. He's screaming the number to the radio on the air. I said, fuck it. I'm gonna call up. I called up. Your nigga picked up. I said, yo, what's up?
Starting point is 00:37:05 You, soon as you heard my voice, he knew who I was. He said, yo, listen, man, everybody can't be a rapper. Some people got to be a fireman. I said, oh, shit. Why me and him going back and forth on the phone, the shit comes through the airwaves? So he didn't even know for me. Nick, I made it.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I just was having a conflict with the nigga that was on the air. But at the same time, I'm like, then he tried to play me. He come down, I'm waiting for him. I'm like, it's up for this nigga. He comes down, we and him going straight at each other. And when that happened
Starting point is 00:37:31 The nigger who was with him Took my CD He was like Yo, I got you For some reason I believed that nigga I broke out I'm back in the hood
Starting point is 00:37:38 I'm in the situation When I'm about to throw my life away You know what I'm saying Like I just got out A bad situation at a funeral And as I'm peeling off Because my number was on the CD My phone ring
Starting point is 00:37:47 I picked the phone up It was Kay Slay He said yo man You on the radio next week I went up there Prodigy You know all them niggas And peace prodigue
Starting point is 00:37:55 I wrapped on the ear The rest was history for me bro But I only tell you that story to say that I earned my love, you know what I'm saying? I had a, I had an, she could tell you, I had an army behind me, not just because I was a rap nigger who was, and niggas wanted to eat off her, because I was a real nigger and niggis knew, even though he a real nigger, this nigger rap his ass, and they wanted to see me win.
Starting point is 00:38:16 So it's different. It's different what Slave was doing for me than what the other niggas was getting done, because my shit was resurrecting in the penitentiary. I was doing lower library, politicians was calling me, I was torn overseas with no deal. I went three years with Slade with no deal. Niggas thought I was on. I ain't had no deal. Niggas was blocking me.
Starting point is 00:38:34 You know what I'm saying? So it was a little different for me. I'm going to say this. I'm so fucking glad you told that story in this day and time. Because people don't know the blessings that they got that they could just upload something and their life can change.
Starting point is 00:38:47 The consistency and the determination that you had, that was in winners. And a lot of people in this time, a lot of the kids, a lot of, and even some of the people from our generation adapted to this new mindset of right now. I need it right now.
Starting point is 00:39:00 It's a microwave generation. You know how many people after that phone call, after he didn't play him the first down would have went back to the hood. Man, that nigga hating on me. Fucked that. Everybody hating on somebody
Starting point is 00:39:10 if they don't get you Instagramification. Or if they don't support what you want immediately. Fuck what I got going on. I just got to jump. You just said, I went back. I went back. I went back.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I went back. I even got a little thing with him. I called. You didn't give up. That's what, y'all. People don't understand. If you ain't go to New York back in the day,
Starting point is 00:39:27 wherever he was from, you wasn't getting the fuck-off. You know, Walo, I ain't had nothing else to do. I ain't had nothing else to do. Yo, Walo, I ain't had nothing else to do, bro. I don't understand niggas that go to jail and keep going back. I only need to be on ragged sound in two weeks. I said, yo, man. I said, if this going to be my future.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I'm glad you mentioned how long ago. I said it. Oh, yeah. Oh, I was 1695. I ain't need it. I need to keep going back. When I was in there, I said, yo, this is my future. This is my future.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Don't fucking do us like that. that that shit was the longest 10 fucking days. Act like we did something wrong for not getting caught. Together, their whole bit is like a month. It's like a month. You're fucking right. But I'm going to say this to the young people out there. I ain't going to front, man.
Starting point is 00:40:10 The day and jail is too much, especially when you can be out here living in the life. You know, it's just too much because it's like, you know, it's so much to live for. And everybody on this couch right now, no, we didn't have no fucking satellite in our pockets. So the opportunities you have to get a job, to start a company, do whatever. You, like, a motherfucker upload a song a day and be a millionaire next month You ain't just hear me say I use the yellow pages
Starting point is 00:40:32 You don't look a nigga up They don't know what the yellow pages is That's Google now iPhone That's Google now yellow pages Look at this type I want to go in Yellow pages like
Starting point is 00:40:41 They don't even know They used to come to your house once a year And they had every restaurant The banks The lawyers And you, alphabetical order You had
Starting point is 00:40:49 He went through there And found the station And went up there That shit crazy man Yeah man It's real shit I ain't had no option bro
Starting point is 00:40:55 When I seen how niggas living in there. I'm like, I'm doing all this hustling and all this shit. This is my future. Nah, I got to go do that rap shit, bro. I got to take it serious, though. And I took that, I was selling my CD's $5, bro. At the car wash, everywhere I went. My homie starts selling them, taking their little cutting and giving me my bread. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, first of all, man, before we go any further, I want to get your flowers, man. Gotcha. Because, you know, you know. Thank you, bro. It's always the opposite way a nigga go to jail when a woman hold him down. Yeah, that's major, bro. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:24 you never, never see it the other way around with a female go to jail and a nigger hold her down. And I got to say this. I've never seen that in my life. You never see that. I mean, I'm never listening to you ever met. Okay. I knew you was threatening him over the phone.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Don't come to about you. You'd be out there and goofy, you're going to get no money, nigga. I'm going to run you off the block. You know, my nigger who was doing a gazillion years came home. Yo, Wado. He sent him through the house. You could test him if you. And both of y'all could vouch for this, bro.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Growing up in the hood, they always tell us, yo, man, bitches ain't shit. If you ever get locked up, you know what I'm saying? They ain't going to hold you down. All that shit, right? But I'll tell you this. When I used to go visit her, bro, that motherfucking visiting the floor,
Starting point is 00:42:10 because she's in the maximum facility. It's all females. All women didn't visit. Hold on, I'm ain't going to get to that yet. When I used to go to Raggers Island and visit my homies, right? It's fucking women up there in the snow. They push the strollers.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I don't care. They're fighting to get in that, bro. They're getting in that motherfucker. They're getting there with the baby. started going to visit her, bro, we're the only one on the visit the floor. The whole shit empty. That shit taught me, and y'all say, yo, these bitches don't support. They won't ever hold you.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Them niggas are the real bitches. Because y'all say the women don't hold us down, but why the male facility is full of visits with women and babies and the female facility is mothers, grandmas. Y'all not even visiting them, bro. I was the only, me and two other niggas, we know each other. We're the only ones who was visiting our ladies, you know what I'm saying? So that shit taught me a lot, too. And you gotta give your flowers for that
Starting point is 00:42:54 because like that's why y'all you could just like just your energy being around you can tell y'all shit is just so strong on a real organic real level this ain't got nothing to do on Instagram this before all this shit this was work
Starting point is 00:43:05 and I want to just give y'all props and salute y'all because people got to learn in relationships to start doing the work all for social media y'all ain't grow up in like everybody everybody outlook of a healthy relationship is some shit they don't on social media
Starting point is 00:43:20 but the work y'all did all them visits, them phone calls, to write in the letters, they're really loving each other when nobody looking, when the cameras ain't there. Like, everybody's life with all around this.
Starting point is 00:43:32 That's real shit. Like a motherfucker. You know what you're saying? It's in every relationship, though. It's not even just like in. Friendships, family. Yo, people really, I've lost relationships. That's some real shit.
Starting point is 00:43:45 You ain't post me. I don't, when people die, I don't be posting it. I think the only person I might have posted was DMX. my grandmother like I'm not posting like when something somebody that's closely that I love
Starting point is 00:43:57 it doesn't my first thing like oh let me post about it like it never occurs to me birthday Joe it's my birthday you know the only person that every year like presses me be like yo Joe Joe you know me you know I'm like sis you got a leg right now much you're like he don't care he's gonna press me
Starting point is 00:44:14 all day until I post I'd be like all right I love fat Joe he's my brother's his birthday go go whatever but besides him like I feel like a lot of people they feel like if it didn't happen on social media, it didn't happen. Like, well, you ain't posted. It's okay for the fact that I called you this morning. 9.30.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Happy birthday, yeah, man. What's you doing today? None of that matter. None of that matter. None of that matter. Fuck the cash yet. Fuck the call. Just post you on social media.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I'm the total opposite. Like me, like I literally, my friend Judeo, she curses me all the time. Her and my daughter, they be like, yo, you got, man, fire, why you don't post it? Like, I'm not a, I come from wherever where that'll get you dead. Like, like, not in the guilt.
Starting point is 00:45:00 That'll get you dead. Like, I don't want people to know where I'm at. I'm not going live where I'm somewhere. Like, even when people ask me for pictures, a lot of times, like, oh, she, she ain't shit acts or take a picture fuck up. Like, no, because you're going to post this. I don't want nobody know where I'm at. I don't want to post where I'm here.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Right. Like, I don't know. I don't feel like I have any major beef like that right now. But I don't know how people feel. Right. You don't know what, or even people. People just, that'd be wanting to run into you. I don't want them to be like, oh, that's what she had going over there now.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Like, no, I don't like it. I don't like being on live. I don't like posting where I'm at. And then there's certain moments that I just have. Like, I go to concerts. I like going to concerts. I've been doing concerts my whole life, but a lot of them I watch from backstage. I watch from the side of stage.
Starting point is 00:45:40 So now, whenever I have it, I buy tickets. I want to watch the concert. I don't want to watch it through my phone. They be like, yo, you got video? No, I don't have no video. My phone was in my pocket. Like, I was watching it. I'm very asking.
Starting point is 00:45:51 very adamant about posting stuff on social media. And I used to do it because that's what people expect you to do. Now, I'm like, I'm not posting nothing. I have one friend. All the time, she's like, yo, you don't brag enough. Like, yo, let me come to your crib and just film some shit. You ain't using it. And I'm just like, no, that's not me.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Like, I've never, to me, if you had to do that, you was corny. Like, if you had it, you just had it. If you were flawed, you was flawed. You got the new jacket, the new, like, I literally get everything the same time everybody else get it. I know when it comes out, like, it's certain shoes, clothes that it didn't even hit yet, but because we are who we are, we get it. And I'll be watching certain people post up, like, yo, bitch, I know your box just came today
Starting point is 00:46:30 because mine just came today. Like, you feeling so bad to be the first one to pose. Like, to me, like, it's, I don't live like that. Right. And I can't, like, I haven't been able to conform to that. Like, as far as using it for my business and stuff like that, cool. But just me regular, like, oh, we over here, we have million dollars. I see what it is.
Starting point is 00:46:50 People would be posting too much. They'd have caught your license plate all the time. You're doing too much. You're doing too much. See, but if you use it for positive, I fuck with it like Gil do, you know what I mean, him and too. He's showing that black love. I love watching that.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I enjoy it. But like Walo said earlier, you can't put your problems. Muffogethers get mad at their fucking brother or their sister and they go on social media and start shitting on them. Let you say no, Eddie didn't loan the motherfucker a hundred thousand hours. No, man. I ain't got $1,500 this time. Niggas ain't real.
Starting point is 00:47:23 You're like, damn, bro. That's what you can tag me in. Because I'm coming from my real name. Nigel, where you at? Like, I'm, that's, he'd be mad at me. He's like, yo, why you respond? What? That's when you're getting me.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I'm a way to I see you. Because it's like, I'm not going to argue with social media. It's like, bro, why you ain't had that energy? You ain't post nothing when I looked out at any time I sent you a car. Why you ain't salute me then? Wow. So I can't say no.
Starting point is 00:47:49 A motherfucker's saying. Oh, Papu's got wife, the kids, bills, insurance, health care. You got all this shit you take care as a man in today's society when you got a bunch of motherfuckers out here, family members, friends. They don't want to work for the lifestyle that they want to have. They want to use your money to go out here and live a lifestyle that you're not. You don't go party. You don't go to Miami.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Exactly. But they want to do that. Even that is to a certain extent because you could give them, give them. And it still don't be enough. I tell Joe all the time we have that. I be like, yo, they don't want what you give them. They want what you got. Like, you can give, give, give.
Starting point is 00:48:20 It's still never, it's never going to be enough. It's never going to be enough. They don't want what you give. They want what you got. It's certain people that they feel like, like, I've had to tell me, like, yo, you think I owe you because I know you? Like, I know her. When the last time you're talking about?
Starting point is 00:48:36 If you didn't see me the last six months, you probably don't even know me. I changed. I know from high school. We got to reintroduce ourselves. We ain't talked in the last six months. They got to reintroduce myself. I didn't introduce myself. I don't change.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I'm really not. I'm really not. I promise you I'm different. And there's certain people that feel like you owe them just because like I promise you. I had to break it down to somebody one time. Like it was a girl that I was locked up with and she was telling me she was like,
Starting point is 00:49:02 yo, they'd be mad at you. They told me like, yo, if that's your friend, why are you working two jobs? And I was like, wait, what? Like, hold on. Can I stop you real quick? Can I stop you real quick? Can I stop you real quick?
Starting point is 00:49:15 Anytime somebody say some dumb shit like to me, I ain't saying, That's some shit that they're saying. Right. Don't speak. They're remix shit. Yeah, damn, man. I mean, damn, you know, I mean, Remy got,
Starting point is 00:49:27 Remy, your sister or Remy, your girl, she got all this money. Why you, why you working? Because that's your life and this is my life. Fuck you mean. Like, what about all of these spies? You pulled to jump over everything you got to do for your babies, for your husband, for your life. You think you won't get in front of that line?
Starting point is 00:49:42 But no. Fuck no. My thing. You ain't even on the line, so that's my thing. This one particular one, like, she, that's, that's, that's, My dog. That's the one that when I was locked up, like, she using my numbers while I'm in, why I'm in shoe. Like, yo, she's in shoe again. She's sitting in packages. Like, that's my girl. So she's like, she had to tell them like, yo, she got a whole family. Like, let's be realistic. Do you know how many people was before the people that I met in prison? Like, actually, I met you by accident. I wasn't supposed to meet your motherfuckus. That was a mistake. But I got my mom.
Starting point is 00:50:19 my grandmother, my sisters, my brothers, my aunts, my cousins, my other friends that I knew with, like, you know how far down the list you are before I start paying your shit? Right. Like, you're crazy, but you got grown-ass men. I have me as a woman, I have grown-ass men that really be feeling like I owe them son. I don't know anything. Like, actually you keep acting like I owe you something, something going to happen to me alone. My thing is this, man.
Starting point is 00:50:42 My thing is this, bro. I had to anybody who knew me to tell you, I had the same phone number, bro, since before I got on. It never changed. He's out of his mind. Yo, bro, let me take something. If a nigger that know me going on social media and talk about me, you's a super bitch. You know how to find me.
Starting point is 00:50:58 My number ever, never changed. Hold on. You know gravy. There used to be with Red Cafe. We just was on a plane with gravy today. He gets on the plane. He sat down first class right behind me. He'd say, yo, what's your number?
Starting point is 00:51:12 I punch my number in his phone. That nigger said, nigger you still got the Happens to me all the time I said nigga I had my number for 24 years I'm the same nigga
Starting point is 00:51:24 I ain't running from nobody I ain't got to change nigga I ain't running from nobody nigga nigga if I want to talk to you nigga I ain't answering Then you go
Starting point is 00:51:31 But nigga If this is an issue You know how to fucking reach But you go on social media No but you know what? And do that sucker shit You know what happened? Wait till you see me though
Starting point is 00:51:40 This is what happened And fuck things up for me And be sad when I see it When I see it When I see niggas from our generation that Poles have been from the streets. Well, you see, it's so-called real niggins. I'm like, what is we doing?
Starting point is 00:51:53 Like, bro, you went on the ground. Like, when I'm seeing street niggins trying to get clout. Like, we never did that. You know what it is, though, Walo? They never were street niggins. They got exposed. In my heard, it was niggas who was betraying to be real and they got their skirt lift up.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And guess what? You ain't real no more. You never was real. You was doing a good job front. When the nigger go on social media and do that shit, bro, nah. You ain't who said you was. Let's get the fuck out of here, man. And at the end of the day, too, right?
Starting point is 00:52:18 My whole thing is you'd be having old niggas do some goofy shit that wasn't doing goofy shit when they was young niggas. It'd be like, you wasn't even this nigger when you was a young nigga. I thought you was a smooth nigger. I thought you was a play. I thought you was this. I thought you was a hustler. I thought you was the boss.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Now the roar of the crowd is going, and you're on social media doing dumb shit. Doing weird shit. And my thing is like this. Because you don't hear the roar of the crowd no more, So now the real you is coming out Because see when everybody first coming to game And that shit take off
Starting point is 00:52:50 They could play, they could be whoever they want to be When your fans love you You can lie to them Tell them whatever they want to hear You could be whoever you want to be But then when the roar of the crowd is going Now is you still gonna be the nigga You said you was
Starting point is 00:53:06 Hmm One thing any nigger know about Gilly He always been Gilly man Think about that That nigger just always been gilly. And you know what's crazy about that? I'm going to say this to you. All of them niggas, they got a problem with you
Starting point is 00:53:23 that might have said this about you, said that about you. I just want to know what, that's a nigga. Because, you know, everybody played a victim when they don't get what they want. They play the, the nigger magically the victim or people the victim or I'm this, I'm depressed, all this dumb shit. Let me ask them a question.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Did all the motherfucker post you when you got the position, the head of hip-hop at Tune Corps? That's all I want to know. Because everybody quick to say They fuck with you Did y'all post my Nothing about the post It's about did you celebrate me
Starting point is 00:53:49 Did you hit me up? Did you celebrate? You make history bro You were executive now You go You switch the game You really get help people now You can get them advice about
Starting point is 00:53:58 This is what the code This is what we need to do We need to do this This is gonna be better for the artist This gonna be better for us You know what they do in that moment They stand down And that's what they say
Starting point is 00:54:06 You got to watch the motherfuckers Who stays silent Watch them too Because when they know They can add on to your situation and they do that suck of shit and speak for itself. Like, bro, listen, I'm going to say this.
Starting point is 00:54:16 What you did, I'm like, damn, that's major, because you don't see too many people from hip hop getting these executive positions to make things better for the people that's going to come after them because you know all the fucked up shit that happened to you. Exactly, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:29 You know the shit that happened to your wife. So now you're sitting back with her going to be at the crib, Ian, babe, listen, I got to do this. What should you think about this? She's going to give you gang. No, could you remember this happened to me and this happened.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I think we should do this should switch this up or you should make this better for the artists or they should create this little thing. It could be one little thing that you can change within the system that'll be more beneficial to the artists that's uploading their movies that's why I'm so happy to be in this position
Starting point is 00:54:51 because going through all the shit I went through as an artist, shit that we were speaking about earlier as far as Gil and a lot of situations, bro. Some people got the mentality of, oh, fuck that. It was hard for me, so these little nicks got to go through the hard way.
Starting point is 00:55:05 My mentality is, nah. It was hard for me. I want to make it easier for the young homies. You understand what I'm saying? Absolutely. Bro, I do shit that's beyond my job. I don't even, it's not even my job description. Just to make it easy.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Artists will come on here, bro, and verify that. Just to make their life easier. I spend money out my pocket. I'm up there having meetings about, you know, adding different budgets, endorsement budgets. So artists can have, you know, certain marketing. Because I know what it's like to be an artist and you've got to come out your pocket.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And you don't get that return. I don't have it as bad as he did. Sometimes somebody did some shit to me. It was up. She was moving out. I'm petty, too. Like, I'm so petty. Like, all that's the poor shit.
Starting point is 00:55:41 That shit go hand in hand. Like, I wait, I do summer jam. I have a stack of tickets this odd. This is called me like for tickets. You got tickets? Yep. They're on my mental. Go buy something.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Because when there's someone soap concert, y'all go buy them. They go buy them. But because y'all know me, y'all wait to the day before or the day of everybody. He's over here, bless you. He's the worst. Yo, I start seeing beat people in my dress.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I'm like, how fuck? They called to me. I'm like, yeah, what the fuck? What are you doing? What are you doing, bro? I look out for people. I look up a family. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:56:13 What's your last name is. He's like, I'm having to tell people like, you're my family because that's just happened. Like, I didn't, nah, I didn't pick you, bro. If I'm gonna pick that. Obama would have been my father.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I didn't pick you. But you know what? As her husband, I tighten that up. Obama would have been my father. Beyonce would have been my sister. I'd have had somebody like, what? I'd have really been sitting there.
Starting point is 00:56:38 She breaks you down to the, I didn't pick y'all. was formed. Nah, because people think about it. I've been accused a lot of times my friends, my family members, like, oh, you treat your friends better than your family. It's because I fucking picked them.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I liked them. They had to earn my trust. They had to earn my love. They had to earn my respect. We have things in common. That's why we're friends. That's why I love them. I didn't pick you, motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Y'all just fucking came. I just woke up and y'all was yours, my cousin. You was my aunt. He was my this. She was that. And I love our family. I automatically, I automatically, I don't love all of them.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Don't he's, I don't like all your motherfuckers. Y'all motherfuckers. Y'all, he's not, if you question him, it's you. I don't like. I love y'all, God damn it. So you watch and y'all, he don't know y'all like I know y'all. Anyway, you get the family members and you just, you just love your family because that's what we're taught.
Starting point is 00:57:29 You just love them. Yeah. They're your family. They never had to earn your trust. Like, think of all the stops that your friends have to go through to get close to you for them to know your inner secrets, for them to know your body, you know, like, whatever. Whether you're in their physical, romantic relationship or friendship, there's certain levels that people have to get to get close to you.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Your family never have to go through that. They just, you automatically love your cousins. You love your sisters and brothers. Nah. And if you really sit down and think about the people that ever fucked you over the most, it's people that know you. The best. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:05 It's people that know you supposed to love you. So, yeah, I treat people. feel like it and people won't be liking that and I don't hear it. I like this game. I'm going to start thinking like that. I don't even like you man. My motherfucker. I don't just fucked your mom man. Exactly. Blood thick of water, y'all.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I don't fuck with you like that. Blood thinket and water, but yeah. Listen, I, I can't do each person accordingly. You know, and I learned that from being away because a lot of my so-called family, they wasn't there. The people that at least, you know, shout
Starting point is 00:58:37 up to my DJ, DJ Bedtime. Yo, he was my DJ He was my DJ If I call him Like just randomly like You know let me call checking him And I'm like yo he's like what you doing nothing I'm saying chilling
Starting point is 00:58:48 And we can just be talking about something randomly I was like yo I had a dream He was like oh I had a dream I had some recent peanut butter cups crazy I literally hang up the phone with him They'd be like yo Smith you got to visit I go downstairs He doesn't and I dropped you off to some peanut buttercuts
Starting point is 00:59:01 Like he would leave his job I think it was real On lunch break For something that he just heard me Talk about on the conversation Like, yeah, I can't stay. I can only be here like 15. I got to go back to work.
Starting point is 00:59:11 But, you know, I would get in trouble. Like, I would get tickets. You know, they got a certain amount of time to process your ticket. So I would be like, yo, it's a tier three. If I get this one, trailer visits is canceled. I need to visit every day, eight o'clock in the morning. So I used to be able to.
Starting point is 00:59:27 He would be able to do it, but some days he can't do it. I'd be pissed on. He'll go calling late to work and come. Make sure he's at the prison, eight o'clock in the morning. So they can't take him into disciplinary. Like, those, that's the shit that I look at. He's at the speed up there. How far was you from the prison?
Starting point is 00:59:41 For me, I actually moved my crib so I could be closer to the prison. So where I lived at, I was 40 minutes. Damn, that was. If I speed and catch the, get there before count, I'll get there 40 minutes. Oh, you was, y'all had, y'all was able to get constical visits me or was that? Yeah. Oh, oh, nigga, you was cool. Eventually.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Listen, you was cool. That thing was cool. Y'all was cool. Oh, shit. Eventually. Eventually. So, that's what she was telling y'all. So I come on, sometimes I come to visitor.
Starting point is 01:00:09 So it was easy, though. It was easy to hold that down. That thing ain't going to miss him. I thought he was holding a bell like this. Ah, ah, with old pictures. I thought he was at the crib. That think it had a base. Oh, nah, that shit was a process, though.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Daddy, what you doing in the closing door? This nigga's stupid. Your mom on the phone, if all this. No, that shit was a process. You know, you know it's a process. But that's what she was trying to explain to y'all. So certain times I come. the visitor, we got the conjugal visit set up
Starting point is 01:00:38 in a couple days or whatever. And they sent me down and they're like, oh, nah, you're sitting over there. So when you said, that section is people that's in the box. You're like, what? The fuck is you in the box? I just spoke to him. You're beefing now. Y'all, we're beefing. I'm sitting there. I'm tight. You come out here. What happened
Starting point is 01:00:54 was, I got in this light. You like, oh, they said I did this. Not because they used to be acting. I used to try to tell people. I felt like, I'm really not a rap. I just happened to know how to rap. I would really fuck one of y'all bitches up in here. I don't I don't know who told ya. What the fuck out my cue?
Starting point is 01:01:08 Get away from my cell. I know I'm not sending no autograph to your fucking cousin at home. I'm jail, bitch. No. Like, I used to be mad. So, well, let me find out. He up there, H.H. Hot and horn, and he like, this shit, you really.
Starting point is 01:01:21 It's been a couple weeks, boss. You know, niggas get to talk to him. I'm a tear that in the ass. He gets up there, like, sit over there, buddy. Now, I'm supposed to go over here. I'm getting something today. I'm coming off the shelf today. We mean sit over there
Starting point is 01:01:37 Nah, buddy, get over there He's going on real dates To enjoy it like this Dumb shit He's like man I'm dumb with you man But that's because he didn't It was a couple of times
Starting point is 01:01:47 That she got to fight it though But but Like Was that last year Last year the year before last I had a birthday party So now all my friends is home Like it was a minute
Starting point is 01:01:56 Where like some of them was like Wait so you Remain buddies with them people Yes Oh my old friends So not So listen. So listen.
Starting point is 01:02:07 He's a piece of shit. I got you, Nick. So listen. So listen. Write your name down. I got you. I got you. Hey, piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Hey, man, too. I got to fuck over too. Now, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you something. Listen, my friends that were, you know, my friends prior to that, like I hang out with my friends more than them. Like I know them, but we grew up together. But I don't really rock with them like that.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Like the people that I hang with, the people that, like I said, when I would, I be in the box, they were. I'd be in the box, they was risking because you could, people don't understand. Like, you could be in jail and jail. Yeah, in jail and jail. So, people that always say that, we always see that shit. You always see that shit. Risking being in jail too, sliding me fool, so cooling, doing all the type of shit. Like, all it be times where I'll go to, we'll get into it together.
Starting point is 01:02:50 And they were like, yo, I'm just take the rap for the ticket because you got your trailer coming and they'll go to the box. And there'll be times, like, the last time I went, where he was really, really mad. Like, it was like one of those situations. And my friend, she was from Buffalo and her mom was coming down. I'm like, yo, I'm going to say everything was me. They wanted me in it is after my life Every fucking day anyway
Starting point is 01:03:07 So I have a birthday party I have a birthday party Listen I have a birthday party We go around the table Like two years ago We have a birthday party My French They all at the table
Starting point is 01:03:17 Once they win my crab They're all gonna say something That we know about RAM that Everybody might not know This one bitch just start telling All the jail secrets Like bitch I'm at the end of the table
Starting point is 01:03:28 Like God like she's telling her like Then the one time And we was in the cell And Remain As long as you don't, you're not coming to no more parties. We're going to the shower. We're going to the shower.
Starting point is 01:03:36 And then she went to the box for like three months. And he's looking like, you're like, you never coming to no more parties. Like not stuff. It's a lot of shit though. It's a lot of shit. When she first got locked up, bro, I never forget. Because you know, in order to conquer, they got a divide first. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Like I went through so much bullshit. But I remember when she first got to Bethlehills, not fact, I take it back to Ranking Sound. And we had the wedding set up, right? So I got me, my mother-in-law and my mother. You're with your mother-in-law and your mother. So you know you're positive. I got the suit on. She got her dress.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Everything is ready to go. We go to the jail. We go to the metal detectors. I take my keys out. I throw my keys in the motherfucking tray. You know what I'm saying? So one of the police is like, oh, you can't have this. I said, wow, what's wrong?
Starting point is 01:04:17 He said, oh. Skeleton key, right. He said, what you want me to do? I said, I don't care. Throw it in the garbage. My mother went through to a metal detector. My mother-in-law went through. We get on the bus, go over to the facility waiting for her.
Starting point is 01:04:27 They come over there with me. You come with us. They throw me in a cell. Oh, you suit it up. You got your suit on and they're ready to marry and they throw you in a cell like you're in jail. You're not in jail, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:39 They throw me in the cell. I'm not no fucking it. So check it. They throw me in a cell for like an hour. What, you? They let me out the cell. I don't know what's going on. Check it. I don't know what's going on. They let me out of the jail. I'll go get on the bus. Anybody know who familiar with Rikers Island and visit somebody. Get on the bus.
Starting point is 01:04:54 That bus takes you over to the parking lot where your vehicle is. I get off the bus to go to my vehicle. Mother fucking channel 5, the Daily News. Hey, why did you do it? What's going on? Watch you do it. I'm like, you what the phone?
Starting point is 01:05:05 Headline news. Papu's trying to break Remy Ma out of jail with a handcuff key. How are you going to break out of jail? You cannot get that. I didn't see that. I know the headlines on that was crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Let me tell you. I know the headlines on that was crazy. That's what I did try to break out of some sucking shit. Like, but how are you going to break out? Check it, though. Check it. So now they ban me. I'm banned.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I can't visit her. Well, they try to fuck you all over. I can't visit it. I can't do nothing. Now, right? So I'm writing letters to Albany, all kinds of shit. Yo, this is some bullshit. That's what I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:05:37 I'm reaching out the motherfucker. Hiring, useless lawyers. Nobody want to get back to me. I'm hiring, lawyers. All type of shit. So now, this is Rik and Sound. I'm like, okay, I'm banned from Rikers Island. When she goes upstate, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:05:49 They move upstate. You move upstate. I'm like, oh, we lit. Me and on the phone. We celebrating. I finally can see my baby. You know what I get in the V. I drive up here.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I go to the jail. No, you can't come in here. You're banned. You try to help me. Definitely. I felt like the motherfucking building came falling there. I don't be like a mile. That shit hurt me.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Because it traveled up there with it. I knew she, me and her was speaking on the constant. I knew she really needed me. You know what I'm saying? That shit was just fucked up. Damn. Eventually I kept right in the Albany and shit. I got my visitation back, right?
Starting point is 01:06:17 So now I finally could see her. I go into the facility. She come out. She's run out. She's skinny as a motherfucker. She don't lost mad weight. I never forget that day. She ran out and shit we hug.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Naga, I wasn't getting packages yet. It's horrible. Right. Then I started doing that. In 10 days, I came home, 140. This nigga's stupid. The next day, I come back to the jail, the next day. The motherfucking, police, she's looking at me.
Starting point is 01:06:40 She's sucking her teeth. She's rolling out. Do I visit? I come back to the next day. But now I'm in there. She's like, yo, come here. Man, disrespectful, bro. But in my mind, I'm like, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I ain't letting them fuck my visits over here. She's like, come here. Like, I'm a little boy. I come up to the desk. I'm like, why do you keep coming up here for? What do you mean? I come to see my wife. She ain't going to no way no time soon.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Stop coming up here every day. Bro, when I tell you, smoke was coming out of my ear. But you just stood down. But I knew if I feed for this bullshit, they're going to ban my business. They sent her to you. I wouldn't sit down, bro. She came out and I had my visit with my wife. I visited her every day for a year straight.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Every day for a year. And that shit, honestly, financially, that shit fucked me up. Hold on every day for a year straight. Six days a week. One day you don't got to visit. Don't be fucking taking new days, though. Don't you do that shit. Don't you take none of that fucking good guy's credit.
Starting point is 01:07:38 That's some real white shit. That's some shit, too, they were to say it. Well, technically it was six days, baby. I couldn't fucking come on Sunday. You know how major that is, bro. Hold on, hold on. This motherfuckers in the free world that don't see each other a week. You went up there every...
Starting point is 01:07:59 How long was the business? From 8 in the morning From 8 to 4 And you would just stay You like fuck it We were chilling We're eating out the vending machine The vending machine
Starting point is 01:08:07 I'm gonna tell you so I'm gonna tell you so Yo did they had the two Hohies in the vending machine That was my Jones They had the motherfucking chicken sandwiches They got the pizzas The pizzas yeah
Starting point is 01:08:14 The motherfucking muffins in the morning Oh my god Y'all was The pherr wings The motherfucking wings She got Chrome 23 All types of albums All types of businesses
Starting point is 01:08:26 But coming next is a book With how to put it on your nigg he will come visit you for a year. Thank you. This is all I'm speaking. I don't be wanting to say it. She put no book out,
Starting point is 01:08:38 niggas. That nigga was there with the guards. When the guards walking it, he went, hey, pet of poose. Hold up, hold up. I got to say this. That nigga, that's really doing time. That nigga did a bit.
Starting point is 01:08:50 He was really doing, he was in the jail. It's not a woman on planet Earth that could say that. Bro, you was in a jail more than you was in a free world for a year straight. Think about the time. You just went home sleep. Shower came right back. You was like you was in the jail more than you was... Yo, that's crazy for a year straight.
Starting point is 01:09:06 It's not a woman on planet Earth that could say they want a year fucking street to see somebody in jail. No woman. You know what it was? She ain't deserving, bro. She still is a good person. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:16 I really felt like I seen what happened to her trail. More folks got on the stand and lied. I feel fucked up about that. I'm like, damn, man. I couldn't believe. It was nothing I can fucking do, bro. You up in that courtroom.
Starting point is 01:09:26 That's the shit that fucked me. I ain't gonna lie. I used to leave her on a visit sometime. I used to go home. punch the walls, I'd be so mad. I couldn't do shit, bro. You're that frustrated, but she just still gangster. Just call him.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Don't worry about it. She had her moments, bro. The only one time I seen her really get upset, bro, and that shit crushed me, too. Other than that, she, like you said, she was 100, like. Low had his moments, too. No, let me ask you a question. You got out of your ass nigga.
Starting point is 01:09:52 He had his moments, I'm telling you. She had one moment, bro. It was when they, my 20 deny my second appeal or my third appeal? I would tell you with the appeal shit. That shit. The whole family, we got the Greyhound bus, right? We go up to him on a fucking court. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:04 Everybody, she put her appell, and this is the last one. She doesn't struck out with the shit. So every day when me and her be on the phone, she would call me, though. You could check online. She would say, yo, babe, check and see if the decision is in. So I would go check, it ain't in yet. So one day I pull up to the jail, the visitor. She just so happened, she called me while I'm in the parking lot.
Starting point is 01:10:22 She's like, yo, babe, check and see if the decision is in. You have to tell it? I check, no, look, check it out, Walo. I check. still not in. So I go in there, I get out the car, I go in to jail. Before I put my phone in lock, I'm like, let me check one more time. Mind you, I just spoke to until it's not in. Oh, my God. Bro, I checked. That shit said denied.
Starting point is 01:10:38 You had to go in there and tell her that. Oh, shit. Now, I go in there. She's fucked up. She come out, we hugs, we sit down. I don't even know what to say. She's talking ragged. She's like, yeah, yeah. And I can't wait until the decision come. But I'm just quiet. Yo, bro, I ain't even tell her. She looked at me. She knew. She knew from there, bro.
Starting point is 01:10:58 And that shit, that was like, that shit was a crushing moment. Yeah. That meant she had to do the rest of the time. That's crazy. That was the last appeal. That was the last one. And y'all, y'all gave out a bunch of money, didn't y'all? I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:11:10 She shot at her work. The lawyers are going crazy. But Lois ain't even go through no appeal. He got up there. He was young, a digger got aggressive with him. He called him speaking pig Latin and shit. We had never spoke no shit like this ever in life. I'm not lying.
Starting point is 01:11:24 You know I'm not lying. He's a old. This thing is talking about, you know, man, Kizzoz, man, Gizzo, man, Kizak's on the Lizzine. I said, what? I said, what? This is a lie. He's talking about you, man.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Big Husky, Gizade boy, you getting a little rough. He's trying to get a little rough with me. Kizak's on the Lizan. So I said, I said, I said, Kizak's on the Lizzine. What the fuck is you talk about? He's like, man, I don't want to talk on his fizzon. Like, you know what I mean? Kizak's on the Lizzine.
Starting point is 01:11:53 I'm like, Kizak's on a Lizon. I ain't know what he was talking about until I hung up, but a nigga that did some time. I was like, oh, a nigga trying to fuck him up there, man. Make a call up there. That's what he's trying to tell you, man. Make a call up there to somebody, man. His ass is on the little side.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I said, oh, cakes on the line, oh. Oh, shit. The call up to jail, get them niggas off his ass, man. Big cause shit, you know what? Let me tell y' y'all something. Before y'all niggas shit really took off from the beginning, when I seen y'all, like, play, fight, doing the wrestling shit, and all that, y'all niggas remind me and me and my cousin, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Me and his mother, identical twins. Damn. And he got murdered. Damn. I don't know if Gilly remember. I remember. I came to Philly, bro, on some ignorant shit. You know what I'm saying? Yes, you did.
Starting point is 01:12:34 And I ran into the, to Gilly. I had a conversation with him, bro. Rest and peace. Rest and peace is strong. And y'all, niggas, bro. I love the bond y'all got, man. Keep that brotherly bond. Don't never let nobody come in between that, bro.
Starting point is 01:12:47 You know what I'm saying? In order to conquer, they got to divide. The strength is a unity. You know what I'm saying? So without the unity ain't no strength. Y'nigs keep that shit, how y'all got it. And don't take that shit for granted because my little cousin got murdered, bro. Yeah, real talk.
Starting point is 01:12:58 That's real. That was one of the one people in, like, no, in-law shit. He's probably like my favorite in-law. But he probably did something that this nigga did. This nigga was, they had him scared straight. After that key shit, this nigga wasn't bringing that in there. Scary-ass thing. She was trying to get the shit in.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Strong enough, that nigga used to be coming in, pulling out McDonald's cheeseburgers and shit. I was like, bring my cousin up here. Like, what you're talking about? This nigga went. This nigga went. She tried this nigga across the street. Give me some cheeseburgers She'd leave it all else
Starting point is 01:13:30 That bitch, you won't get six months My even But this is my whole thing This will make me mad about the first move Now y'all know In order for her to get out of the prison She got to go through gate, gate, door, door How the fuck was she escaping?
Starting point is 01:13:46 You know how many people got cuffed keys When they fucking joint? Because, you know, like, come on, man Like how to fuck They ain't like me, bro They said she was going to get out of Rikers out of Black Power We got this nigga now.
Starting point is 01:13:56 We got him. We're gonna humiliate this nigga. They was putting me in the newspaper for some dumb shit every other day, bro. They made jokes out of the marriage shit. All that. They was clowning the shit. Let me ask you a question. How do you get you?
Starting point is 01:14:07 What he said? Well? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I'm pretty sure if you tell him he'll say something. What happened? What happened?
Starting point is 01:14:16 What happened? I don't know. Hold on. Hold on. She said here talking about, but been around from 15 a year. I don't know. I ain't going no motherfucking
Starting point is 01:14:26 thing that's stupid He's trying to see his version Because it always changes Every time I say something I say something He's like that's not what happened So I don't even say it more Like, niggas just be like The same way
Starting point is 01:14:35 Y'all was friends We was friends We was friends We're friends for months So the same way I just say Hey let you I'll give you your flowers No man on the planet I'm just saying like
Starting point is 01:14:44 She's got to be pretty awesome When they're moving how they move I'm just saying I don't want to Toot my own horn But I'm pretty fire But, yeah, I mean, that's evident a dick up at the jail with the CUs when they're walking in. No one ever talks about that, though.
Starting point is 01:15:02 No one ever talks about that. No one ever mentioned that. There's a lot about you, babe. Like, think about like. That's your work. It says a lot about you. You're amazing. So what happened?
Starting point is 01:15:12 Basically, like I said earlier, she was hating on me. You know what I mean? Damn. I said that earlier. Yeah, she was hating on me. I think you all got a love heat release. With the mixtape, with the mixtape shit. What is that?
Starting point is 01:15:23 Clay was my friend. For those that don't know, that was my friend. Like, before he even knew where the papoose was, Kay Slate was my friend. When he needed somebody to go crazy and start his intro on his mixtape, he called me.
Starting point is 01:15:34 I don't know where. I started seeing some, I'm like, yeah, what the fuck is this? Who is this? What's going on? I'm going to keep it all the way real. That was some New York shit right there. He was my friend.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Like, I don't know. The fuck is he doing with this dude, like, like, this is my man's in all, but Chuck is my friend. Yeah. Like, who is this so one's aim? I'm questioning shit like, yo, what the fuck? Like, it was cool at first.
Starting point is 01:16:01 I started, I realized I moved from like number one to like two. Then I started moving from like number two to three because he was number one and there's some feature they didn't put together was two. I'm like, now what the fuck going on? That's what he was saying like, yo, you know, Slay was fair. No, the fuck he wasn't. He was definitely extra pouring on the pepoo.
Starting point is 01:16:19 You want your husband. He wasn't my husband. I didn't even know that. She didn't even know that. She didn't even know that. He's a nigga. He's a nigga from a booker that I don't know from nowhere. Who is this nigga?
Starting point is 01:16:28 What is you doing? So that's, he definitely was poring on a little bit. Actually, I was a hate. I was just asking the question. Like, who is this? Like, what I was saying? You say what I was saying? You say one little thing.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Nah, come on. That's that new one. That's that new way. You hate knowing. I don't like you. She said, fuck this nigga. Yeah, she was shitting on me. Y'all can believe.
Starting point is 01:16:47 I definitely could believe you said that. She said it's hard to believe. Fuck is this nigga. But I'll tell you what happened. Then she probably was looking at Slate like this. Fuck as this, nigga. I go outside your shit. So when I met, when I first started fucking with Slate,
Starting point is 01:17:00 one time I'm in the studio with him. And she come in the studio. So when she come in the studio, she's like, yo, turn that shit down. I mean? She's whiling, she whaling the whole room out. She throw her foot up on the motherfucking desk. I don't want to put my shit on y'all shit.
Starting point is 01:17:14 She threw her foot up on the motherfucking desk. She said, turn that shit down. She's smoking, blowing smoke. I'm sitting in there. I'm like, what the fuck? I ain't never seen nobody handing Slay like this. I mean, but later on, They got the brother-sister relationship, so that's what it was.
Starting point is 01:17:26 But she just wound in the room, I'm like, every time he tells the story, I just feel like it's really dramatic. Because I bring me my people. Talking to my guy. I sit back. I'm like, oh, I like her. You know what I'm saying? But I just stayed to my suck.
Starting point is 01:17:36 I'm like, I ain't saying nothing to her because if I do that shit to me, I ain't with it. I'm going to be mixing in that mother. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I ain't doing that. So I played it cool. She didn't even pay me no attention this time. She ain't say shit to me.
Starting point is 01:17:48 She left me to fuck alone. She went out there everybody out in the room. She was quiet. You stayed in your place. Damn, man. So now, moving up to speed, one day Slay hit me. He's like, yo, man, Remy wanted to do a song with you. So I'm like, oh, world.
Starting point is 01:18:04 He's like, yo, I think she liked you. Op shit number one. So now let's stop you right there. She was all over you like a cheap suit. She was all over BAP like a cheap suit out of Marshall. Now, how up is that? Now, I'm not saying nothing. that I wouldn't say if Slave was still here.
Starting point is 01:18:24 I told him one time, like, I told you, you're my friend. Why don't you tell this nigga that? Let's just say if you really thought I liked him. Why the fuck you told him that? Number one, number two, he's not even adding the extra part. First of all, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do a record with him because I'm going to smoke this nigga like I smoke every other nigga on the record. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Call him. That's what you said. The nigga that you keep putting on, number one, call him. I'm going to do it. That's what you said. Then, yeah. But did y'all do the feature? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Did you smoke them? Smoked him. And he was going to be like, I'm going to be next to rent like Dr. King. I may be red like car tires and wheels, like dragging it all my body. But anyway, that's what he said in the rap. You loved it, though, didn't you? So look, check your act. Keep him, no, no, don't do you love it, didn't you?
Starting point is 01:19:09 Not only did the nigger tell him that he think I like you, a nigga like, oh, oh yeah, is she crazy? Yeah, he did. He was like, yo, he said, I'm going to tell you right now. He said, I'm going to tell you right now if you fuck with her. He said, I'm going to tell you right now, if you fuck with her? She's a little crazy. You might go to jail. That's like my little sister.
Starting point is 01:19:23 He's like, yo, I'm just letting you know. Like, all right, I come to the studio. I go get the hair cut. I go clean the jury. Put the jury in the jury. Diggins get their bags. I go, like, I got to get right for this. Nicky.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Mom, what? I'm going. I go to the motherfucking studio. She don't want me show up. What? You put the kid on it? She ain't show up. You had the kit.
Starting point is 01:19:43 I didn't even want to be like, you know, what happened? I just leave it. I'm like, fucking. I'm that nigga right now. I'm the hottest nigga fucking. She ain't show up. I keep it pushing.
Starting point is 01:19:49 One day I'm in there unexpectedly. Who come walking in the studio? Unispecting. That's what we did the song together. So in my verse, I'm making sure. I'm flirting with her. I'm saying, I'm saying, I can think of. You know, I'm saying, throwing a little dog.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Because you already know she already. She already, she's sweating. You know what I'm saying? We just became cool. Like, she used to just school me about shit about the game. Like, she was telling me, like, certain niggas ain't who they said he is. And how I knew that she was the one for me was because we'd be sitting in the motherfucking car just talking all night.
Starting point is 01:20:15 And then when I leave her, I'm like, I miss her, you know what I'm saying? So when you're not with a person and he's still on your mind, that's something special. How was your first date? What did you take it? We used to do shit like that. Just sitting smoke all night. Morg fucking in the car doing shit like that, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Because we couldn't. I told you I was like the female snoop dog, right? Put this nigga in the hospital. Dang. They ain't even smoke like that. He's trying to hang out with trying to press me. She parked me. She parked me.
Starting point is 01:20:38 She parked me. He was in the hospital with a fucking fucked up lung for like a month or something. I'm like, yo. He's like, my dad. I told you I used to be smoking like high quality weed. I just be coming out the Cali's door. Nick, if you ain't small like that, why you just say that? Yeah, well, he's all in cars, trying to be cool.
Starting point is 01:20:53 I did, but it was extra. Like, bro, like, what you doing? And then I was ripping and running, doing shows every other fucking day. Me and her was wilding and every motherfucking steak together. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't getting no rest, so I ended up fucking one of my lungs. I had to get surgery. I almost died.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Damn. I had to get surgery. A lot of people don't know that. And when I came out, me, I just got more closer. And, you know, things escalated. The relationship became more silly. That's what I'm mean. So shout out.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Rest and peace. Kay Slay. That's the piece of my brother Slay, man. No, no. Slay made this shit happen. No, not only did the nigga give me my first shot, he introduced me to my beautiful wife. That was made, that was blessed.
Starting point is 01:21:26 So I always give him full credit for that, bro. And I always told him like, now you know what? That's your friend, y'all friends. That's y'all friends. That's your friends. I ain't fucking. Am I lying? I don't even fuck with that.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Now that's your friend. Because you're out of pocket, bro. Like, why would you do that? That's your friend now. Y' friends. Y'all be friends. She's a deal with her. She introduced us though, man.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Enjoy it. You can tell her she used to cuss slay out. Slay's going to go to war. No, she used to cuss every fucking by y'all. You think this is just slay? She might cuss him to fuck out three times a week in the new reason. What the fuck you do is still in the bed?
Starting point is 01:21:59 He's like, listen. No too much to trust you at a time. Listen, I'm actually a really nice person. If somebody do something, if REM don't like you and I'm on some bullshit with you, you did something. You did something. The problem is I'm extreme. Like, so you could do something little.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Like, I use the example of time, like, yo, you stepped on my shoe, my shoe lates. It's possible, like, I might want to amputate your leg. Damn. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're in trouble in the house. I don't do tit for tat. It's like tit. That's just how I am. That's the thing with her, though, honestly.
Starting point is 01:22:35 And people always tell me like, yo, man, you sure know how to you like crazy motherfuckers. Your best friend is Kay Slay. Your wife is Remy, but with me. You calmly back to. And the thing for her with her is, people don't understand. They think she a certain way. As long as you're 100, everything on the table, you ain't going to have no problem with her.
Starting point is 01:22:50 But if you're doing some under the table, shit, she's going to speak up. She's going to put you on blast. What's up with the... Do any of the kids got that trait? Like any of the kids is a baby her? You know what's interesting and what's fucking scary to me?
Starting point is 01:23:01 My daughter is innocent, right? But it's the cookie, though. Every fucking day I see it turning into the cookie. You know what I mean? You know, you put that motherfucker in the oven and you just watch and going to... Oh, man. Every day she's starting to remind me more
Starting point is 01:23:12 is happening gradually. She's not playing. She ain't going to be... She ain't playing. She got a lot of her ways, like the comeback, the quick comebacks and all that shit. Oh, man, by the time she's 15, oh, man, you ain't going to. Oh, you're in trouble. By the time she 15 is over.
Starting point is 01:23:26 In defense of my child, he'd be doing some dumb shit. See? Oh, see, yep, yep. I'd be doing some dumb shit she'd for. Yo, I promise you. You know, he's in trouble. When I see him, Remy is the epitome of New York. Yeah, she don't play.
Starting point is 01:23:44 New York girls would play. Like, they could make a situation out. anything like in respect for my child he'd do some dumb shit like the baby four yo but she's not i swear what is he's because you don't know he'd be in the house anybody that knows her like she's not a normal four-year-old like she say some shit to me like we literally have a whole fight like he got to come and like break us up like because i'm sitting there all day what did you talk about what do you're doing and he just want to be in the crib chill she's all breaking up fights already she tells me the other day right she got
Starting point is 01:24:14 mad so i don't know what i said my daughter like i'm I don't want to wear that. Everybody that I know let me dress them. The whole Chrome 23, all the girls let me dress them, dress them. She said, no, mom, I'm cool. I'm not wearing that. Like, what are you talking about? Yes, you are wearing it.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Like, no, I'm not. Yes, you are. Like, that's my mom. So check it, though. I don't even know what the situation was. But I'm like, you know what? I don't even care. She's like, I don't care neither.
Starting point is 01:24:37 I want a new mom. So I'm like, okay. I want a new kid. Matter of fact, I don't want no kids. She's like, okay. Yeah. And I'm getting a new mom. And I'm going to keep the same daddy.
Starting point is 01:24:50 How about that? I said, why at four do you even know that that's like a shot? Like, she knew that was a shot. She was like, yeah, okay, I'm going to get a new mom. And I'm going to keep the same daddy. Check this out. I'm like, so, I don't care. The other night, me and her was having a little disagreement
Starting point is 01:25:10 for the baby was asleep. She woke up. I guess we were talking too loud. He's like, can y'all stop? She's like, I'm going to blame your father. She's like, no, it's not, Daddy, it's Daddy sweet. It's you. Listen, she's going to, all that, all that smoke she puts you through,
Starting point is 01:25:23 the little girl won't give her all the smoke that she puts you for watch. I couldn't believe she said that shit. Because she lives this. You hear Mommy being a bully in the house. It was so, it was so crazy. I was scared for my daughter. I didn't even laugh. I was in the room, though.
Starting point is 01:25:37 I must a rib in my mind. Yeah, she paid for that shit the next day. Can I get a snack? No. Yeah, she's been a sweet. fucking father. She put a fucking snack. She put her daughter in the box now.
Starting point is 01:25:48 No, but she love her mother to death though. She loved the ground. Oh, really? Can I get a snack? Actually, sweet father. Oh, yeah, that's right. He ain't here. Fuck out of it.
Starting point is 01:25:59 She's super attached to her, bro, bro. That's pretty. You know who's tripping in the house. They know who they're tripping in the house. You want to be just like her. She renovating the crib right now. She's moving, got a lot of construction workers in there. My daughter coming in there.
Starting point is 01:26:12 Oh, I want this over here. Hey, I want this over here. This in mind from me, like, is she trying to be like a mother? She told them, yeah, I think you guys should build me a second playroom over here. Oh, she owns another level. Get your, get your ass over. Trying to be like her, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Ain't wrong with that. It's cool, though. Are we supposed to be the biggest influences on our kids? There you go. A lot of people just, you know, they hand them the little iPad and let them. You have the iPad raised the kids. They let them go. They let him go.
Starting point is 01:26:36 I ain't going to lie. That iPad, she gets a little crazy with it, but right now then. Yeah, poor that. Let me get that. He'd be like, just give it to her. She's not getting nothing. Relax. Calm down, come, let's go make some slum.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Let's do something like, I'm very, I try my best to be hands-on with her because if you don't, like, show your kids, somebody else is going to teach them. Yep, yeah you go. And I learned, I learned, like, I had my son. I had my kids. My son was 18 when I had my daughter. Like, I had my son when I was really young. I was a teenager.
Starting point is 01:27:02 So a lot of us, when we had kids, when we were fucking kids. They grew up with us. They grew up with us. So I used to have my son's doing, I would never dream of doing in front of or around my daughter. Like, literally, I just bought tickets to the 50-cent concert. I'm going to take my son when his birthday come on. When he was three, I bought him tickets and took him to a 50-cent concert. Like, what the fuck was I doing?
Starting point is 01:27:24 Like, I would never do that with my daughter. But, like, you do stupid shit. We had him fucking throwing up middle fingers. You don't say that. Because you're young. You don't know no better. With my daughter, it's a little one, she's a girl. And two, it's a whole different mindset.
Starting point is 01:27:37 I tell people at a time, like, it's different from when you have a kid with your baby father or your baby mother when you're a teenager, as opposed to when you have a kid when you're grown as adult with your husband or your wife it's just totally different and a lot of times as parents like we we try to be our kid's friend
Starting point is 01:27:53 and Gil Gil called a lot of Gil called a lot of what's in what you call a mommy sisters like the new wave is like they're the mom and his sister they just let the motherfucker get away with anything I'm not gonna lie
Starting point is 01:28:10 I do that with my stepdaughter Like, me and my stepdaughter, like, that's my best thing. But at the end of the day, we, we, that's. Yeah, I got daughters. My oldest daughter is 25 and my youngest daughter is 21. My stepdaughter is 26. Oh, you beat. No, but one of the boyfriends.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Oh, you had to check them? Yeah, I had to check him. I think he's through a laptop or something. I went through that, man. Shout to all the fathers out there, man, protect the daughters. Yeah. I mean, I went to one of them situations. But what I'm saying is about being a lot of times
Starting point is 01:28:44 He's a laptop He ain't hit her though He broke the laptop He's okay But you always have to be the parent first Yeah absolutely You cannot like She knows like when she mad at him
Starting point is 01:28:55 She's like I ain't speaking of your husband I'm like alright cool whatever me neither Like let's talk Yeah I'm my daughter they're closest mom But at the same time When she out of pocket Look nah this is this is what it is This is you gotta get your money
Starting point is 01:29:06 Like she used to be mad at me like She's like oh Why I got to have a job I'm like, yo, because no nigga want a talking bill. Like, it's cool. The nigga first meets you, it's cool. Nigger gonna buy you this,
Starting point is 01:29:16 you're gonna give you that's cool. But after that, you become a walking, talking, fucking bill. Nobody wants that. Like, you gotta have your own shit. Nigger don't want you to take his bread to buy him a birthday gift. Like, it's annoying.
Starting point is 01:29:28 So I have to like, for real. That's a real shit. And women don't realize that. They be like, oh, yeah, when I bought him this, bitch, you use the credit card that he gave you. He's paying for that at the end of mind.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Like, they don't understand. that and I had to tell her that like you always want to have your own you don't want nobody to be able to tell you not even us you don't okay I get you a crib I'm a still one shit in your crib if I and if I paid for the crib and you let me it's I'm running shit I'm you can't do what you want to hear right you want to be able to do what you want to have your own freedom you got to have your own shit and I and I handle her like that but from having her because we didn't have our up-to-downs where I didn't block her I ain't talking to her like because as a step-parent you don't really have as much say-so as
Starting point is 01:30:09 as the biological parent. And also when the kids are not together, the parents are not together, the kids use that shit and they're able to do what they want to do. But with my son, it's a little bit different. Nigger, I would crack you in your motherfucking head.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Like, my mother that called me like, he told me that you said you was going to knock him in the head and Mesa, my dad. And Macy, damn. Oh, that nigger biggest shit. I'm going to mace the shit out of you. Damn, she's not playing.
Starting point is 01:30:33 When you down, it's up. Like, what you told? I'm not got to really seeing act like you little. I know I can't beat that, oh, but I will mace the, What I used to be explaining to her is you don't want to do that. You don't want to put him in a position where he's going to go AWOL. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:30:45 Make him run. That's why I used to be telling him to chill out with that. Don't take his man her, you know what I mean? Like she wants to hook off and all that. Which is tough love is good. Sometimes them niggas need that, man. Sometimes the hook off to keep them niggas out of jail. Listen to me.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Right, but you don't want to make them niggas run from the crib. He's my kid. So I know what it is. I'm like this. I'm like, I'm talking. I'm like, yo, I had a pocket. You just see, hold up. You stop looking at me like that, y'all.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Keep looking at me like that. I'm going to punch you in the face. Now I've got to punch you in the face because if I don't, you're going to think I'm bluffing. Now you got punched in the face. Now you're calling your grandmother. She can't beat me. Like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:31:23 God damn. So he'll go to him. I'm going to go to co-s out of this shit. Not. Not. Not. Not because you calling your grandmother. Like she didn't say, grandma can't tell me.
Starting point is 01:31:37 me nothing you must say she said grandma can't beat me she can't beat me well grandma like 60 no how about this I bought her house too fuck you talk about can't no way tell me shit I rush that's it and and that's how I felt like you know your kid you know how you got a hand like my daughter I know if I fucking yell at her she's gonna like she gonna sit there I gotta literally get up and start making steps for her to move him it was more like yo you really got to do something or he not gonna stop and then you have other kids where like I know I could just talk to them right And I feel like with parents, there's no book. The same way people are like, yo, how I get on, how this is like, bro,
Starting point is 01:32:14 ain't no book for me to tell you how to be a rapper. They ain't no book to tell you how to be a parent. It's not. It's not. Every parent and parenting is different. Raising a child, a baby is a total different experience from a young adult. And when they get a certain age, it gets crazy. One can't prepare you for the other.
Starting point is 01:32:27 I'm going to keep it all way real. When sex get involved, oh, boy. Yeah, it's over. I talk to tell people that all the time. When we talk about certain situations that I'm not going to talk about right now, we be like, y'all, but like, if a chick, especially if you have a daughter, if she, Jesus Christ could come from the sky.
Starting point is 01:32:45 No, it's true. And do nothing. So the parents, you have no control over that. Like, it's literally nothing you can do about it. You can lock them away. You just got to fight. And you hope they don't break out. Even when my son, I came downstairs.
Starting point is 01:32:58 This was years ago. Oh, yeah, you told me about that shit. You know, I said, what you doing, Dad? Say, I'm curious. I said, I was giving you a hug, nigga, fuck. You upgraded from the titty sucks, didn't you? You got some pussy.
Starting point is 01:33:15 All right, here. Literally, I said, what's up, daughter? The nigger said, what you doing, Dan? I don't be doing that shit. I'm a grown man, man. I just got my dick with it, man. Come on, man. Don't be a little boy in me no more.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Like, I was right down there, I said. Shit different. I said, you upgraded from the titty sucks, man. I used to have him in the car make in front of them because one of them was getting some pussy one of them was sucking
Starting point is 01:33:41 tithies so I used to call him the plucker and the titty sucker we'd be riding around they sitting in the back I'm like I got the plucker and a titty sucker disrespectful
Starting point is 01:33:51 no what was getting some ass what was sucking titty but why are you telling my business I ain't there here why you telling my business he was there that man made him upgrade his game
Starting point is 01:34:04 I'm tired of being the titty sucker But my son, because we were so close, like the same way he said, my, like me and my daughter, like, we go through that, but I'm really close with him. My son's the same way. Like, it's so bad to the search. I'd be like, he sent me in his phone one day. I forgot he left.
Starting point is 01:34:17 He's like, yeah, I need to go on my phone. Go to say, yo, someone, don't ever send me in your phone again. Like, yo, it was so disgusting. He was like, yo, don't touch nothing. Just go exactly what I'm telling you. I did one swipe too much to the left. I was just like, yo, you know what? He comes on.
Starting point is 01:34:31 He'd be like, yo, let me tell you about your makeup artist. What I did to Hodge, like, yo, you can't have my makeup artist, bro. You can't be fucking hairstylist. Like, he's crazy. Like, he's out of control. Right now he's 22. Oh, no, let him do him. No, now he's.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Man, he blitzing like his fourth and inches ball on the gold line. This was 17 I'm talking about. I'm sitting there like, yo. Hey, let me tell you something. And he's out of pocket. Like, he's like, you know what is, because you like, you act so much like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, you like, my dad really, I, but I'm really not, though. I don't want to hear about your kills.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Like, please. Like, keep it, keep it PG for me. Like, he's, I, but... He's smart as hell, though, man. It's good to have that relationship or friendship, but you also got to have that. He also not at the same time, I will punch you in the face. He comes home and tells Mom about his kills,
Starting point is 01:35:17 my unstruck. He's like lightning. You know, like, it's crazy. To my ass up, mom, you. But... That dick are crazy. A lot of people, they want that part. Look, who is Bob is.
Starting point is 01:35:29 Yeah, you got to still be a mom. Look, she's talking about, well, her head, she's talking about I punch you in. your fucking face you hear me second I don't want to hear about your kills he's like man you're a gangster or what like I'm tired of this shit you confuse to me
Starting point is 01:35:43 he like mom you want to be a gangster 70% of the day and then you want to be mind me the other 30% I'm talking to the gangster right now I don't want the intricate details especially when I know them I'm like oh my god this one here like he literally probably every day like yo so you're gonna hook me
Starting point is 01:36:01 I'm not hooking you up with any You'd be surprised if you knew how he wasn't old he wasn't old he wasn't old He didn't play the round He won't he want everything He's like well now it's a little bit different He got his own little situation Yeah shout to my boy man he's good kid smart though Till he's smart now this
Starting point is 01:36:20 You know he's smart What parent are you? Are you the parents? You know he's the yes parent He's crazy nigga, he's crazy He's the one that goes from zero six I put my daughter out at 18 But they support the they love the youth
Starting point is 01:36:34 I'm the parent like I'm no this like sure come on let's go you're an ice cream I'm like yo ice cream you're just violent man I get nothing
Starting point is 01:36:47 I grew up poor but if I can give them bro the things that I couldn't get I grew up on well but they don't appreciate it and see I'm that parent I'm that parent that I'm gonna try to provide
Starting point is 01:36:59 and give you every opportunity that I wasn't a lot lot of it. But if you do some dumb shit or you don't appreciate what the fuck you're getting and you believe that this is supposed to happen like this? The entitlement is crazy.
Starting point is 01:37:16 I hate that shit. The entitlement is crazy. I cut you to fuck off until you get your mind right. They start thinking that they're supposed to have and we would have these arguments years ago. It's my daughter, she just came so she don't count. She grew up in a mansion, man. She don't know poverty. No, she doesn't. But our kids are a little bit different.
Starting point is 01:37:33 My son, too, he doesn't really know. But they still have cousins and stuff that they be around. My daughter, though, doesn't even know. Like, she, you drop past any project. She'd be like, that looks like so-and-so, so, so. Like, they all look the same way. It's not the same place. She has no clue.
Starting point is 01:37:47 But with our kids that are the same age, they're all like the same age, 22, 23, 24, 26. And Christmas would come and he wanted to get everybody the same thing. Like, everybody getting new coat, new boots, money, this. I'm like, hold up, she getting A's, she getting C's, he's feeling everything, and this one. Well, I was raised, you get one kid, you get bored. But now, but now this is my problem.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Now, listen to my argument. My argument was, what is my incentive to keep getting A's if I'm going to get the same thing as my brother or sister that's feeling everything? That's how I am too. Like, what you're talking about? No, that's a, I'll celebrate holidays. But now, this is my thing. You know all year round
Starting point is 01:38:33 Christmas is December 25th So you act stupid All year round You ask stupid is a clip for you You know when your birthday coming It's clippew So we would always clash with situations like that Yeah we did
Starting point is 01:38:44 Or he'd be like yo I don't want them out there And they ain't got no bread Then stop acting crazy I'm not gonna reward Fuck shit Right And then you're gonna make me want to do something to you
Starting point is 01:38:53 And then if you act like you I feel like you getting A little bit extra A little tough of me Now I'm calling my cousins Like And it's be jumping you It got to be a balance, though, man.
Starting point is 01:39:02 You know what I'm saying? You live with your wife. You know how it is. It got to be a balance. Both of y'all can't be the real of a month. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, no. No, too, too, she's the easiest Sunday morning.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Yo, yo, it's a real shit. Or it's a real shit. Fucking walk over, too. Oh, it's a real shit, too nice, but I ain't going to front. There's been plenty of times. I heard her say some Remy shit to Gil. I'm behind the close to my shit. We didn't see that one coming, didn't you?
Starting point is 01:39:29 I came in a kid. I didn't know one time I'm down since in the crib. She don't know I'm there. She don't know I'm there. She don't know I'm there. She don't know I'm there, right? So I'm chilling. He says some shit.
Starting point is 01:39:40 She said, she said some shit. You a bitch-ass nigga too. I said, damn, too tall like that. I'm fucking. She just kept going crazy. Different times. I'll be in the career. She don't even know.
Starting point is 01:39:51 Because, you know, when I first came on, she don't even know I come over there and sleep on the couch. Just from the GP, just because I wanted to sleep out the hood. You know, I was still living in the hood. Any of that gangsa shit, too, got I put it in her. When I met Tushini and cuss. She is a fucking square. She is a fucking can of green peas.
Starting point is 01:40:09 You'd be caught. I had to put that shit in her. I told you all the time. You hear me, nigga, you know what this is, too. It's your arm. No, the fuck is not. It's a wink. And I put you the fuck abundant.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Raised your young ass. Yeah, she took you from a low-ass girl to a grown-ass woman. Well, I met you. You was 18. I was 21. Now you 43 I raised two young ass
Starting point is 01:40:33 While don't listen to that shit Like oh she lighted this thing up And when I walked up on I'd be loving it But look how I met you When I walked up on I smelled the hair Think about that
Starting point is 01:40:44 She lighting his nigga up I put my I grabbed the hair and said Damn you got all this pretty hair I said your shit got body You don't need no Paul Mitchell products or nothing I bet you when you run your shit
Starting point is 01:40:55 Bounce don't it He ain't ever heard no shit like that And I like she knew she was done She knew she was coming home with a real nigga, man He slept all that shit with a straight face I did And I was looking at her
Starting point is 01:41:06 Listen And I was looking at her like this too I bet you when you run your shit Bounce don't She was looking at me Like this thing's a fuck crazy When the nigger's story don't change I fuck with these niggas on social media
Starting point is 01:41:17 With a nigga story consistent every time they tell it You know it's the true You heard it I know that's true I know a bitch you lie is the same You know a lie change A lot of times.
Starting point is 01:41:29 No, I told lines with two right there a bunch of times. Or a lot of, like, tell me how I did. And she was like, you didn't just say that from the gate. I did say that. You was across there. I was over there. I asked you, whatever I said, you was like, I came over there. It's creep.
Starting point is 01:41:52 She loved a creep mask. Fucking creep. Cold creep She's lucky she ain't have a friend I go like who is this Listen it was better to be in the jail With my kiss aches on a lizard This is the fuck out of here
Starting point is 01:42:05 It's another ass nigga hating on me That nigga hating on me Yeah me shit Now what, now what You all me? That was then, this is now Yeah, it's a different time He still ain't getting away
Starting point is 01:42:18 He on the street's jerking off Fuck out of it The 20 years come home Because I ain't concentrating on the women I got concentrated on my money out of here. You know, what? You're okay.
Starting point is 01:42:29 You're okay. Fuck are you talking? All right. That's, don't, don't tell him anything. He's just gonna exploit it anyway. No, no. He's out here now. You can't, you know.
Starting point is 01:42:41 He's the plucker now. Mm. Got you. I come in peace. That's all lie, digger. That dude. Hey, shout out the tune cord, man. Now you want to play these bag of chips,
Starting point is 01:42:52 like, like, shit. Shout to Tone Corps, man. The only distribution company where you maintain 100% profit. Now break that down. Listen, man, most distribution companies, right, they come to you, they give you 80, 20, 70, 30, 60, 40. They tap it into your pocket.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Me as coming up as an artist, I don't feel like you do all that studio therapy investing your money and you should have to split your profit with anybody. So with TuneCore, what we do is you only pay to upload. So you can pay to upload each song or each project or you can pay $14.99 and upload whatever you want. for an entire year.
Starting point is 01:43:25 And when your profit come back, it's 100% to your pocket. It's the best distributor in the world. We got reps on the ground in various different countries, five continents. Some of these other distributors, they ship your music around the world,
Starting point is 01:43:39 but it's nobody there to handle it. We got people in different countries representing and making sure your music is reaching to people and doing what it needs to do. Tune call is the best distributor. I speak from experience. I've had a million-dollar deal.
Starting point is 01:43:53 I've dealt with various distributors and I didn't really get to see my money until I started fucking with tune call. So as an artist, right? A lot of artists get discouraged because they got this thing in the head where in order for me to be successful, I need a record deal.
Starting point is 01:44:06 That's what they taught us. They trained us to think like that. It's a whole different day and age. You don't need that no more. Only thing you need to do is go out there, be consistent and persistent and make sure you monetize off of your content.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Some of us, as an artist, you have a value. You may be worth a couple hundred dollars. You may be worth a couple thousand dollars. you may be worth a million. I don't give a fuck what it is. You deserve it. So go out there, put your music out, monetize off it so you can see your value.
Starting point is 01:44:31 That way you can know, okay, this is what I got to do to make my value and to increase my value and make more money. You want to monetize directly off your music. I don't give a fuck what it is. You deserve to make that in your pocket. Tunecore is the way to do that. In Chrome 23, the next battle is
Starting point is 01:44:46 June 17 is going down. You might see me pop up, you know, spit some bars, but that's another story. Who you battling, Wailow? Uh, Gil. I always want to battle, whatever, anything against him, I'm with it. So, so, and this, she also got that. That ain't even hot no nigga that smokes out.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Oh, I thought that's how they be. I don't know. I seen people do that. Let me just tell you something. She bought that nigga the whole she bangs. That's what's up. Let me eat these drinks, see what they taste. Why would you do that?
Starting point is 01:45:22 You don't eat nobody. That's a souvenir, man. That's a trophy, nigga. I ain't see them since I left the joint. I never tasted them, no. Don't, just don't open that bag. Don't do that shit.
Starting point is 01:45:30 I want to see. I might have something that I open in my bag. I got to show that to some moments. I got to take a picture of that. I'm saying that's about 15 homies. They're like, where you get them from? It's going to be a frenzy. No, don't do that.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Please don't do that. Don't do that shit. That bag, you can sell that bag for like $20 out of you. Don't do that. I got to send that to a couple of homies. I can't even taste. I know y'all be seeing me in your comments. I can't get a jail chip.
Starting point is 01:45:52 No, no, I got you. I'm going to see me a case. She won't get a prison chip. I'll send you something. I can't get one of these. No, why the fuck is you touching them, man? Because I want to show how good the shabags is. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Really see if they were, all the hype was in. All right, let me, all right, at least let me open. I swear I'm over. I bought you, I bought you, I bought him shit. All right, let me open. I can't let you open. I'm going to get you a taste. Oh, what happens is there.
Starting point is 01:46:15 Oh, my God. You got to finger fuck them first. No, no, pour me in your hand. Don't touch. Don't dip. What the fuck you finger fuck in the bag, man? Tastes amazing. Yeah, he's so sweet.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Man, he tastes like bootleg chips, man. They do not. Man, y'all just like them because it wasn't nothing else there. And they got a nasty apt to taste. They do not. They like chili barbecue or something
Starting point is 01:46:53 Chili barbecue They all the I'm thinking I'm going to say Oh this shit What flavor is that? All of the flavor The whole shabes
Starting point is 01:47:01 Salt and vinegar Barbecue Oh that shit that's That's like Salon cream I eat That's like throwing a bunch of shit
Starting point is 01:47:10 in a bag That's not true That's a whole shabang I think I fuck that brand up real good Oh That's what my tongue is
Starting point is 01:47:18 Like, what the fuck? I'm like, that shit tastes like Doritos, chips, bunions. That shit, though. Oh, my God. That is shit is that. He's dragging it, guy. He's got to live and let me go to jail. All right, one of those your bags.
Starting point is 01:47:38 They bitches is the nasty. It is just like that. Right. Thank you.

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