Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - SHAWN PORTER: MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 231
Episode Date: July 28, 2023No punches are puled in this weeks episode as we sit down with the legendary former professional boxer and sports analyst, Shawn "Showtime" Porter. Shawn Porter, widely regarded as one of the most ski...lled and tenacious fighters of his generation, has an extensive track record in the ring. With an impressive career that spans numerous world titles and unforgettable bouts, Porter has established himself as an authority on the sport. However, his expertise doesn't stop at his prowess inside the ropes; his candid and insightful analysis as a boxing commentator has earned him respect and admiration worldwide. In this riveting episode, the dynamic trio takes a ringside seat to dissect and analyze the highly anticipated showdown between two of the boxing world's most dominant forces, Errol "The Truth" Spence Jr. and Terence "Bud" Crawford. As insiders with an unmatched passion for the sport, they offer expert insights, breaking down the fighters' strengths, weaknesses, and fighting styles.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mworthofgame
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million dollars worth a game listen man we're here to promote my fight coming up me and
Sean Portie we're going to be fighting it's going to be a two-round match uh each round
would be 10 minutes a piece it's about time my reaches they say I got one of the best
reaches an amateur street boxing and it's like you know I'm my whole thing is like I just
got off the phone with Al Heyman he said listen man uh showtime you know Al Heyman said he gives you
eight hundred nigga I'm saying what the hell is this right he's getting me
eight hundred thousand
eight hundred dollars fuck out yeah i'm not stepping
away for me 800 put my life on line
for them eight hundred dollars
that's your debut
that's your debut for eight hundred people
get eight hundred yes you mean to tell me
when a person when a person
hold that don't mean not me not me
I'm the same a lot a lot
majority you only get 800 to go in there
a majority yes
your first fight you might get a couple
thousand man I'm thinking I'm gonna get like a
unless you was an outstanding amateur
So if you are, all right, all right, all right.
If you and I understand an amateur, you get maybe 2,000.
What?
All right, now, now, between 2 and 5.
Between 2 and 5.
This is what I got to know right here.
If I go to Olympics and I get a gold medal, I know I'm getting a million dollars.
It depends.
It depends.
If you got that gold, yeah, you around that 10, that 10,000.
What, that's it?
Yeah.
Oh, man, I thought these dudes are getting me for a day on the Wheaties box and they come back and they only get 10,000.
And take a while.
man it take a while to get to the money but see but see this the thing so how much do the
cut man get they they give with whatever the whatever they did they decide to give them
five percent yeah three percent of the whole person when you turn pro you probably don't even
have a cut man right what's wrong with you the band deeds is your cut man Johnson and Johnson
it take a while to get to it you know damn that's bad man I thought I might got going to the route
You come from the rap game, man, you know.
I'm thinking, damn, man.
It ain't no different.
This thing is said, I'm like, damn, when I get my fight,
I'm going to get that dude from Tank Corner,
dude over here from a Benavitaz corner dude.
I'm thinking I'm going to do all that shit.
You're going to be broke.
You're going to be broke.
You're going to be broke as a motherfucker.
They got to get this training.
All the motherfuckers got years in the game.
They charge charge.
Yeah.
Damn, what, fuck it.
I got to go with Don King, man.
He going to give me a bag.
You know, Don't know, Don't know, I keep telling you,
I keep telling you, Don't pull up when you give you 15.
hundred and five and ones.
That shit be looking like seven in the bag.
Don ain't know.
Yo, Don used to be, listen, all I thought.
Yeah, I heard you.
You were about saying, I used to be in love with Doc.
You know, down was my man.
For a nigga and the 20 years in jail.
No, not like that.
I read his book and all that shit.
I've seen this doc.
I seen this movie.
And I used to be like, darn, man.
I used to be in love with Doc.
Who the fuck said some shit like that?
No, not like that.
Yeah, you don't, yeah.
You got to start repeating it too
You know that motherfucker
I'm just saying Don
Yeah
I'm trying to switch it up
I do that if I got in the box again
I say I get with Don he's gonna give me a bag of money
That's all the man
Don was robbed of motherfucking
Back in the bank
Now I don't know if that's the truth
Shout out of Don't get
I know Tyson
Tyson was mad and shit
That's all I know
But man we got a motherfucking
Hall of Fame in the building
He ain't in the Hall of Fame yet
But I know he's going
For sure
Showtime
important.
Yes, sir.
And I'm going to ask him something because, you know, the hardest fight in your life.
Mm.
Well, you was in there, you was like, this, this motherfucker is dangerous.
Nah, you don't got time to think like that.
You don't got time to think like that.
But where you was just like, I got to switch up.
I got to reprogram.
To top three, Arrow, Terrance, Keith.
Who number one?
they was all hard nights in their own way
damn hard nights
in their own way you know what I mean
out of Arrow Spence in Terrence Crawford
who punched the hardest
come on Sean
you was in there with both of them
you felt both of that power
who punched the hardest
I'm talking like yeah
it's hard to say
it truly is that's when you know you asked
some good questions
It's hard to say.
It's hard to say.
It's hard to say.
Like a rock wall like,
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Like, it's truly is a hard question to answer because it sounds like a cop-out.
But when you, in the midst of the battle, I can recognize what I got hit with, but I can't
reflect on how I'm on that hurting.
You know what I mean?
And with me doing this as long as I did it, it became second nature to get hit.
You know what I mean?
the body shots those are the ones you feel the most
because those have an effect where it's like
it lasts a little longer
you know what I mean
and then when you look at the two fights that I had with Earl
Arrow hit me with a punch
I think it was the 11th round
the 10th or the 11th round
would cock my head back like
I've never seen
that myself get like that before
you know I mean but then
Terence hits me
in two different times in one round
and I go down off both punches you know what I mean and so I just I think that both of them
having them they have a it's it's not the punch hurting it's the way it's delivered
uh-huh arrow has a way of delivering a punch that's so accurate that it will stung you
but then Terrence has a way of delivering a punch that it's so fast and so out of nowhere
that it'll stun you you know what I mean so it really again like it's hard to say who
has the hardest punch you know what I mean?
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Because this is the biggest fight of 20,
23 maybe no no no this is the biggest
fight the last decade
two two decades
damn two is this is bigger than
Floyd and Pacquiao I think so
not not maybe not like
from a from a standpoint of the promotion
and how many
how much money this fight is going
there's no comparison in that from that
standpoint right but in terms of
us being able to calculate who's going to
win this fight we could calculate
who was going to win Mayweather versus
is pack right you was either clear one way pack is going to do this and he going to win or
mayweather going to do this and he going to win with arrow and terrence how many how many how many
scenarios you think i mean there's a bunch of scenarios can happen and they are realistic right
absolutely absolutely when you so let me ask you a question when you uh fought oh gosh you
fought Arrow, you fought Danny Garcia, you fought Terrence Crawford, you fought Keith Thurman.
Out of all of those fights, who was the hardest puncher in those fights?
At the point in time, when I fought Keith, I thought he was the hardest puncher.
But being retired now, I got to say it's between Keith and Arrow and Terrence.
and if I really if I truly have to like break it down into which one of those I might I might say arrow
the reason why I might say arrow is because he he he he's not a one punch power punch
you know I mean he'll throw three punches and they all got power you know what I mean
right Keith will get you our balance and he's throwing two punches with a lot of power
yeah Terrence is is mean with one yeah you know what I mean and he can whip it back
and come mean with another one but he's not about to just sit there boom boom boom boom
with speed and power right you know arrow coming with speed and power so you're at the same time
well you're you don't leave my man danny off that list well danny's danny's he did his thing
just say how my man danny power is his power is nice it's nice it's power's nice but there was nothing
stunning uh about about Danny's power um and also Danny telegraphs a lot of the
stuff that he does you know what i mean you could i could see when the right hand was coming i could see
when the left hook was coming you go back and watch the fight with me and danny and he hit me with
probably two big hooks in that fight but a lot of the punches a lot of the hooks that he threw
i was rolling off a lot of them because i could tell i could see when they were coming i think the ones
that i got hit with was when i was standing in there in the midst of trying to throw my stuff you know
yeah yeah okay tank and shakur you got to pick one
who you picking
God dang
Come on Sean you got to pick one
I'm picking one I'm picking
I'm picking tank
but
let me be
clear about this
and also let me be clear about this
I watched
Mayweather and when I watch
like when I watch fights
I try to look into a fighter's eyes
I try to look into their body language
and mannerisms I try to see what they're
thinking and I try to get to a point
where I can see what's going to
to happen before it happens whether there's
a fight that's already happened or I'm watching
in real live time and
I'm able to pick up on what
fighters doing how they're doing I watch
your current training and I
said what the hell is he seeing how
is he seeing this before it happens
why watch his fights
his defense
there's no mistake
in any part of his game
where his defense is
it's like he'd been there before
he sees it
before it happens you gotta be special that's that's not that's not trained right you you you
you were he was gifted that's a gift the ability to see what tank is going to throw before tank
throws it right so that's why i said that's that's probably at 135 i think that that's the second
best fight to be made in boxing to this one right here and where do you okay devon and tank
i picked tank to win to be devon i don't think
think Devin has enough. You don't think he has enough. The speed is great. The end and out
that Devin has is great, but you're going to have to take chances against Tank. We've seen
every fighter do it. You've got to take chances against Tank. And that's, that's King's game.
Tane's game is making sure you take that risk, and he capitalized. That boy got power
that is
he has generational power
this is in his generation
shit
that's the first time I heard that
you're welcome
thank you push a button for me or something
I ain't got them sound I don't need those sounds
but he has
he has
generational power
explain that
he punch you he punch your fucking kids out of you
damn
so the baby baby's gonna fill this shit
when they're born
they're going to come out
they feel like shit
that wasn't what I meant at first
but that's clean
right there's going to keep happening
right
he that motherfucker ain't going to be living
no more
that's wow
but he has generational power
who else have we seen
with this kind of power
at 135
in the last
10
the last decade
the last two decades
nobody
and then you keep counting
that makes him
a generation
He has generational power
That means
What he's bringing to the ring
On fight night
You can't prepare for
You ain't seen it before
And let's be real
Are we gonna see it after tank
When tank leaves 135
When tank is out of 130
We don't see anybody else
At 130 135 with that kind of power
No probably
We've seen Roli has power
But Roli ain't got the kind of delivery
That tank got
Which means a lot of the stuff
That Roli throws
It's gonna miss
Before that big one line
Now, but let me ask you a question.
You know, when you talk about Tank, you're talking about Devin, you're talking about Shakur,
break down each one of these fighters, extraordinary fighters, historical fighters, strength.
No, break down what is each one strength?
Yeah.
And what is each one weakness?
I think what I, I think out of the three of them, I actually like Shakur the most.
Because, again, when I can look at you and not see what you see, to me that is extraordinary.
Shakur is again, it's like he's been there before.
I watched him move in the ring and he moves before the guy even throws his punch.
You know what I mean?
Like I've seen, I saw him do that and then to see him do that in live time and actual fights.
There's a difference between sparring and doing what you're doing sparring and then being that comfortable in a fight.
Not a guys don't come to the ring as comfortable as Shakur is.
Once the head gear come off in them 60s and gloves.
Any mean to.
any mean too
you know what I mean
I think that that's the best thing
that Shakur got going for him
is his reflexes
intuition and his instinct
and distance
and he controls the distance
but it's all predicated
upon his instincts
and knowing where to be
and things like that
what Dev
David is his jab
is you know he got that paint brush
jab where he's painting
you know what I mean
he's going to be able to hit you
at any point in time he can
change the
level and bring it up you know i mean he can punch on the move extraordinary boxer
clean boxer he going he can what he tried to do against lomacheenko i think that was just
a matter of people saying he don't got no power he's not taking the fight to people and things like
that he don't need to i didn't think he needed to either if if there was one thing i could tell death
keep doing you right fight as clean as you want to fight because they can't touch you when you
fighting that clean right that kind of boxing style that he got that in and out that he got again
that's a generational talent right there knowing the range in that distance before it even happens
and being able to take it away before it happens he gave it back to lowell in that fight yes go back
to doing what you do well because that is the kind of style that can beat a taint davis right
then you got taint who has virtually it all tanking counterpunch
Ten can come at you.
Ten can wear the punches on the gloves.
He can wear them on his head on his body.
He can take something to give it.
You know what I mean?
Again, no range and distance.
He's master for it that.
Took it away from Ryan after the first round.
Took a couple of rounds for Roley, but then took it away from Roe.
Like every single fight.
You know what I mean?
We got three guys right there that grew up in this sport,
understand exactly who they are in this sport.
has mastered their craft that's that's three elite fights right there oh that's a round robin right
there we need tank and in in and dev winner dev and Shakir don't matter who the winner
Shakur and tank it don't matter who the winner is right we need we need that round robin right
do you think it's too early for that I think it's it's it's we're approaching the time
the reason I think I think it's too early this shit is about money this is about money this money
If anybody is too early, I think for any one of them, I think it's too early, barring the money, I think it's too early for Dev.
I think Dev's still got some growing to do, got some maturing to do, and he can mature into some power.
Of course, we know he on his way out of 135.
So it's kind of a now and never situation for Dev.
But with Shakur, you're right.
I think he needs to increase his audience a little bit more.
But Tank is right there.
See, for me, I think it's too early for Shakur and Dev.
to fight I think for tank in either one of them tank it tank on bring you're going to fill it up
it's going to make sense for tank and either one of them yeah but for chukor and dev the fight right
now I feel like the only person that win is the promoters in the networks they're robbing themselves
right by fighting each other right now because you because break that down because okay you got to look
at it like this everybody wanted this fight between errol spence and terence bud Crawford
Two, three years ago.
And one thing people love to do is they love to act like they don't want some shit no more that they really know they want.
You feel me?
You know what, fucking, I don't even want to see that fight no more because, niggins happening.
Oh, shit is going down.
They probably rubble it.
You got to get motherfuckers to that point.
Yeah.
You feel what I'm saying to where it's though motherfuckers act like they don't even want to see this shit no more because that's how long it took for this shit.
happen you can't just give people shit
when they wanted when they wanted when they wanted you
this is a business and right now
if Shakur and Dev fight
we're talking about
three four five six whatever
million dollars form when if they fight in
two years we could be talking about
25 30
45 40 million dollars
form so that's the difference
whereas though in a lot of
times too with these youngans
they be more concerned about proving themselves
instead of getting the business right
you don't got you're a professional fighter
you don't have nothing to fucking prove
none of y'all is scared to fight
no fucking body
that's what y'all been doing your whole life
I hope they're listening
but you got to get the money
if I'm going to go in there
and I'm going to risk my O fighting
another motherfucker that I know was a BMF
he a bad motherfucker too
Just like me, it got to be some fucking money involved.
Like, I tell my young boy cool boy stuff that all the time,
shout at this David Fault, I'm like, bro, you know you got 20 fights.
You beat nine undefeated motherfuckers in 20 fights.
It's not another fighter on planet Earth that can say that.
Most people don't even fight an undefeated motherfucker until they got 20 fights.
Right.
he got nine undefeated fighters on his resume and got 20 fights.
Wow.
I'm like, bro, they're throwing you to the wolves.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Go ahead and beat a couple motherfuckers up for some easy money real quick.
But he jumped right in there with you in your way.
I wasn't out for the easy money, you know?
And when I was pushing for that Terrence Crawford fight,
and my dad is like, you got to find somebody else.
We're not getting that.
That's not going to happen for us.
And I just, I didn't want easy money.
I wanted the, I wanted the right money in the, in the, in the fights that was going to
solidify who I am to boxing.
You know what I mean?
And, and anytime you didn't see me in the ring, it was because certain people just
weren't willing to fight at that specific time.
But you named all the guys that I fought.
Right.
I was out to fight the best.
Right.
And get up out of this thing before anything happened.
Make as much money as I could
so that I could parlay that
into everything that I'm doing now.
Let me ask you a question, though.
Because at first, I looked at it
and I didn't understand it.
I thought people was ducking people.
Then I realized
fighting certain people
just because the fans want you to fight them
is not smart business.
Exactly.
I realize that sometimes
the money that I'm making sense,
your audience is not strong enough.
Not that you'll get.
because now boxing is not even about somebody being a good fighter.
Boxing is about who got more of a social impact,
who got more Instagram followers, who popping socially, you know,
in order to say, you know what, this person is popping so much
that he's going to get this many pay-per-view buys.
We don't know what was going through the minds
that everybody over there at Top Rank,
but for so long people have been saying,
oh, yeah, Terrence ain't never fought nobody.
Terence ain't fought nobody.
And I kept saying that he's fighting whoever they put in front of him.
y'all don't understand the business right now i didn't understand the business in terms of how
top rank chose to move terence but it ain't terence fault that he didn't fight this guy or that guy
right he wanted to fight whoever they put in front of him yeah and they were picking who
they thought from a business standpoint was going to be the best options for him we don't know if
they didn't have belief in him they don't know if they they they were protecting him or what right
but he was able to make his money and he was able to knock out virtually everybody they
in front of them right you know what I mean but that again like that is the difference between what
people see and what and what they don't see right they see they see the fight night and now
they see Terrence and arrow getting in the ring yeah I don't know what it took to make that
fight happen right we were just talking another room why why isn't that fight happening in
Dallas right we don't know before the last three days before they announced the day was
going to be fighting we don't know if they was talking about what venue they was going to fight that
absolutely we have absolutely have no clue what these negotiations uh
go into right but what we do know is that eventually that fight had to be made right in order
for boxing the win and in order for people to give uh terence crawford his his respect and his just
do even with fight me it's like excuse and reason after excuse and reason i didn't per me personally
i don't get it how he fights sean porter and people still say well that wasn't the same
sean port no it was it was that's the same terence crawford you know what i mean
Like, accept it to do this bad.
You know what I think, I think a lot of times in boxing,
I hear something that I just don't understand this.
And I think it's with multiple sports, you hear shit.
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The show and Porter you are is who you are because when two motherfuckers get in that
ring, that shit goes in even way.
Yeah.
All it takes is one, one motherfucker punch and in the history of boxing, you've seen that happen
so many, so many upsets, you're like, how the fuck that happened?
Yeah.
Motherfucking on the mat.
Yeah.
So when people say that, they'd be like, oh, you ain't fight nobody, you ain't fight.
What the fuck?
Like, you think I got, I'm signed to a promotional company.
No.
But see, honestly, like, when you, when you.
When you say that, they're just saying he ain't fought the same competition because when you look at Terrence Crawford, you look at Bud, I mean, you look at Arrow, Earl fought better competition than Terrence Crawford.
You know what I mean?
Terrence Crawford for Julius and Dongo, Victor Postal, the Benavides, Gamboa, Jeff Horn.
when you look at none of them dudes, none of them really did shit in boxing.
When you look at them, you're like, okay, they was all solid fighters,
but none of them never really did shit in boxing.
Like, okay, Julius Dongo, you got a belt.
A lot of them belts came from promoters trying to keep them fucking belts in the promoter shit.
So, okay, we ain't fight nobody over here.
We're going to keep all these belts right here.
You fight him, you fight him, you fight him.
so a lot of motherfuckers be getting belts by default and that's the business because they ain't
fighting the best motherfuckers they oh my man on my promotional shit he stumbled on the belt he he's a
fucking bum for real i'm about to beat him to fuck up and get this fucking belt so a boxing really got
fucked up on that aspect of it when they start saying oh his other sides of the streets and
these people only fight these people and this person only fight this so but now it's getting back
to mono imano
who's the best
and I'm
respecting it now because before
it was on a little bullshit you know what I mean
Arrow for some real dogs
he fought Danny Garcia
that's a real dog he fought Sean Porter
that's a real dog he fought Keith
Thurman that's a real
no no he fought the Danish Oogas
that's a real fucking dog
he fought Kellbrook that's a real
fucking dog yeah
granted Terrence did
fight Sean Porter and
Kellbrook
But he fought him a little later in life
if they've been through some wars
Yeah, yeah
You feel what I'm saying?
Yeah
That's all I'm saying. He did fight
Sean Porter, he did fight Kelbrook
But Kellbrook had that
Both his eye sockets broke
Fucking punched out of sight like
So, and that's not taking nothing
away from Bud because he just
went there and did what he had to do
Exactly, that's the hard part. The hard part
is being able to determine
when you talk about the level of opposition right you know what I mean like like even sitting
here listening to you like I forgot endango and all those other guys that he fought um Gamboa and all
those guys but even like look at Gambo Gambo Gamboa wasn't an Olympian you know what I mean so but
at that point in time when they got in the ring against one another no definitely not the
same yeah Mboa that came into the game you know I mean so it's just I think it's hard to really
determine where your level of competition is based on that not even at night because you could
be great one night and be subpart of next night right you know i mean boxing is funny like that
right you know but what we do know is that both these guys for the second words no blemishes right
you know we've seen we've seen terence get rocked a couple times we've seen one guy putting down
edge it's cavalouskis yeah you got it huh well damn i'm a boxer nigger i know what the fuck's go
with no or you know they didn't call it a knock down but but i've seen it but one thing about
one thing about bud though when you do the eye test you say okay but we and we've also seen
aero get buzzed a couple of times as well you know well i i don't know i don't know if i ever seen
him buzzed okay cool not hurt no no not hurt yeah buzz like like you know just walk up like i feel like
Every box that got buzzed.
Like, you, but hurt to me is when a motherfucker hit you with a punch.
And then they acknowledge, okay, I got you.
And they're coming up on, yeah, that's what the motherfucker do you hurt.
Like, you feel what I'm saying?
They hit you and then it's like, okay, 20 punches is about to come after that hit.
Yeah.
Okay.
He back up.
He's trying to get trying to get, ah, trying to get you the fuck out of here.
All you doing is trying to defend yourself because you're trying to get your,
shit back right that's hurt
to me you know what I'm saying
I feel like A box have been buzzed
but I feel like when you do the eye test you look at Terrence
Crawford you say
Terence got a little bit more with them
but then you look at Errol Spencer
you say
Errol Spencer's fundamentally sound
yeah
you're like when you go straight up and down
everything is just so tight
it's just bam
it's just right from here it ain't no extension
ain't no arm with it.
It's just right from me a wham, straight up.
Wham, wham, wham, it's just.
And then you say, what's going to be?
Is the dynamics going to beat the fundamentally sound?
Right, right, right.
Or is the fundamentally sound going to beat the dynamics.
You got a multi-dimensional athlete in the ring in Terrence Crawford
against a very good athlete in the craft of boxing and arrow spence.
You know what I mean?
And I do.
I think that that is the most interesting thing.
because what I found with Arrow,
I kept Arrow off balance
and I kept him guessing.
You know what I mean?
I never became predictable with Arrow.
And I think it forced Arrow to kind of come out of his pocket
to try to kind of, you know,
tame me for the second words, you know?
But then what Terrence,
it's like the rhythm is a little different.
The cadence is a little different.
Five times Earl get rocked.
I found something.
That you guys will see it on your side, I'm sure.
Five times Earl Giff's.
No, that's what they see it on here.
Five times Earl got rock.
Am I on there?
I don't know if you were on there.
Because I know one time I got it.
I was like, did I get him?
I was like, no, I don't know.
I don't know.
When you ever punch a motherfucker and thought you had him and was like, oh, shit, he just, he took that.
I'm hit, yeah.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Keith Thirman.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you would keep thermal with a joint eye
I was like damn
Keep got a fucking chin
Yeah
Sometimes boxing is like a street fight
Yeah
You know how like you thought you got somebody
They come right back
And you're like well hold it
You know what I
Yeah that's how the boxing game is too
You land something you know that connected
And I'm supposed to follow up
Yeah
But this dude throwing right back
Right
You know
Well let me ask you a question
And the amortes
Was you like a chubby kid
I was thick
Because you used to fight Danny Jacobs
In a motherfucker
A lot of muscle
And the amateurs and shit
They come out fighting
It wasn't 60
With all that shit
Yeah
I used to lean them back in the day
Yeah
I had a lot of muscle
And my boxing style
Was slightly different
I was a little
I had more base in the amateurs
And I believed in my power
And I was really throwing them
You know
When I first turn pro was the same thing
But when I moved down to 47
I started
You turned pro at 154
I was turned poor at 54
And then when I moved down to 47
I was watching how fast
those guys were
and I was like
I got to be fast like that
you know what I mean
and I stopped really
throwing with the intent to hurt
I was throwing with intent to hurt
but not the same kind of
power and torque
and things like that
like I did in the amateurs you know
who some of the people you four in the amos
you name them I fought them
Demetri's Andre we fought at
we fought at 165
twice
I fought a Daniel Jacob
you're a little with shit
to be fighting
you was fight some fucking killers
he said he got reach on me
did you see it like you know
it's a smirk
it's a smirk you know what I mean
yeah I think the tallest I fought
was six five
maybe six what
how the fuck did that work out for you
knocked him out
how do you hit him in his fucking face
you just you just got him
with a roof so we're all body on him
that's crazy it's interesting
um
there's a way that you can
like it's like I would always say
you could be taller to me
but when we get in the ring with the same size
because I had my movement
and the way that I boxed
I was able to force guys to stoop down
I was able to force guys
even if they stood up
I was able to force them
to commit to their punches too much
because they're trying to catch me
and they're trying to reach me
and things like that
and then what I had
like I was a hybrid boxer
and ain't too many hybrid
boxers out there boxers day i got speed and power so in the amateurs i could i could use my
quickness with my feet take your your um your your range away from you and then land something that hurt you
you know i mean so like with that six five guy yeah i appointed him and the amateurs it was a 20 point
rule in the first three rounds if you're up by 20 points the fight ends in the fourth round if you go
about 20 we let the fight continue in the third round 20 point land was the same punch that
put him out yeah you know what I mean so yeah um I fought Usick Alexander Usick
the heavyweight 165 pounds yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and we had a close fight for four
round wait hold him hold the fuck up how y'all feel when y'all see jubbi he like sure and you're like
who sick
you're a fucking welcome
he a fucking heavy weed
we're like
no we fought before
yeah
yeah
yeah yeah
yeah
I mean the list
goes on
it's a guy from
Billy I always forget his name
tall
South Paul
black kid
he fought in the
amateur system
moved up
he turned pro with
top rank
and he never got a belt
I always forget
his name
But another tall, South Paul
I'm trying to think we talk about
light skin, dark skin.
Dark skin.
Yeah.
His dad was a,
was a professional fighter, too.
You're not talking about Bozzy.
No, no, no.
You're not talking about Pooha Faraa.
No, no, no, no, no.
Not pooling for a rock.
Dad was a professional fighter, too.
Oh, I think he...
Tim Witherspoon.
Uh-uh, nope.
No.
Wetherspoon was a heavyweight, too, though.
But shit, you was fucking fighting that.
Cyclone, his, uh, his dad.
Oh, uh, uh, heart.
Heart, yes.
Jesse Hart.
Yeah.
You some fight Jesse Hart.
I fought Jesse in the amateurs.
That's been Jesse or big.
Jesse tall.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
God damn, dog.
As Jesse about.
As Jesse about me.
Oh, you mean.
Oh, you fuck Jesse.
No, no, no.
No.
You did my big of Jesse dirty, man.
You did Jesse dirty in the amortezes.
He said, no, no, no, no.
Did you win?
Yes.
Yeah, but it was a good boxing match, though.
It was a good boxing match.
Yeah, Jesse can rubble.
But that's what you were saying.
Yeah.
He went to say he fuck Jesse up without saying it.
Ask Jesse about me.
No, I'm just saying, like, you know, for somebody, you know, you're like, I don't get how he could beat somebody six, four, six two.
With just like six two?
Some like that at least.
At least.
Yeah.
So ask him what that experience was like being in the ring.
with somebody shorter and you know
You try to be funny
I think Hollywood heart
Yeah yeah
Jesse Jesse that's my man man
Yeah Jesse good dude man
Damn that's crazy you used to fight them biggest man
All those big is way bigger than you bro
Question
What's your favorite
Philadelphia fighter of all the time
I'm not a boxing historian
All right well I'm just throw some names out there
I mean I'm gonna say Joe Frazier
You got Joe, you got Winart, you got Danny Garcia, you got David Reed, you got Ivan Robinson, you got a, ain't what was moving from?
I forgot David Reed was from.
Williams, uh, yeah, Dave Reed was from him.
I forgot, yeah.
Remember, Dave Reed had the eye issue.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they, uh, you got Steven Fulton.
You got boots.
You got Jerome Boots Center.
Speaking of Boots.
Ha ha!
Where do you put boots in there with Errol Spence and Terence Crawford?
I think looking at the possibilities of how the outcome of Terrance and Arrow is,
it's harder to look at those outcomes or the outcome of that fight,
opposed to Terrence and Boots or opposed to Arrow and Boots.
I think both those guys are extremely consistent,
Arrow and Terrence, extremely consistent at what they do.
and I think boots still
even though he's probably the most
he's probably the most athletically
get that boxer in this world
probably
even from a standpoint of determination
and things like that
he has he's the it
and he's going to be the it
but I still see those guys
beating boots right now
oh my fucking God
sure don't
why do you see that
no he got to break the guy
well because I do
I think that where
Arrow has the ability to wear punches on his arms
Block, be defensive, yet be offensive
They both have things
You gotta feel boots power
They both as, as per-
No, I don't
I'm retired for a reason
Oh, he said no, I see that no I don't mean he know
Yeah, no I don't
Because I'll be training with him
You felt it? Yeah
That's what you get
That's what you get
I don't know what he's your feeling
You like how he said
He said, oh I don't know
That's what I mean you know?
No, don't.
Yeah, absolutely I know.
Gone, done.
But look at it, truthfully.
We've seen him be consistently charismatic in the ring, energetic in the ring,
break guys down, all that kind of stuff.
But in his last fight, he had a problem with the mover.
So that's another adjustment.
That shows something that we didn't really expect.
We expected him to catch up to this.
But it's a difference, Sean.
And we understand if, okay, a dude is moving, that dude was running.
It's a different.
Running.
It's a difference.
Like, if I'm a professional fighter and I got somewhat of good defense and I'm in the best shape of my life, I can't run 12 rounds without you knocking me out.
Because I'm not giving you nothing.
It's not like I'm throwing anything out there.
You get to slip.
You get the counter punch.
No, I'm just running up on you.
And I'm just, bang, bam, bam, and you just, and then you run to this side of the ring.
And then you run to this side.
You're not giving me nothing.
Well, all I'm saying is that whatever adjustments that could have been made, I really, again, to your point, I didn't see any adjustments that could be made.
Me either.
Because if he went to the center of the ring and said, come here and fight me.
That dude wasn't going to the center of the arena to fight him.
And one thing when I was watching the fight, shout out to Jared Hurd, because Jerry Hurd was sitting behind me.
and we're watching the fight
and Jared Hurd said
this dude ain't giving him nothing
man he's not fighting
yeah this is like
this the worst kind of fight
because he's not fighting
yeah he just trying to survive
his whole motive was to survive
I'm not oh he knocked everybody out
I'm not getting knocked out
I'm surviving but to my point
somebody moving like that
apparently that was something he had never
even never seen before
or they just cutting off the ring
and putting so much pressure on him
that the referee come in and say all right that's enough that's the only adjustment that could
have been made right cut the ring off even more than you already was and let's let's keep it
real a lot of punches was swung and missed by him yeah you got a great mover this dude was a rabbit
moving the whole night 100% right but do something to make these rep this ref get this dude up
on the roads rough him up do something my point is whatever adjustment that could have been made
I didn't see that adjustment
To cut off the ring
And apply so much pressure
To this guy
And again, you have not seen that before
Right
You have not seen Arrow before
Somebody that's going to walk you down
And block him
And things like that
You have not seen a Terrence Crawford
Somebody that's going to switch
And move and be offensive
And defensive
And control the range
Those guys are very consistent
At what they do well
I wouldn't advise Earl
To tempt to walk boots down
that's going to be a dark alley
I want to advise
he's not going to walk him
I believe it
not boots
yeah
do you think they punch
hardest
hard as boots
I can't imagine
they don't
what boots
is a natural
147 pound fighter
arrow is a fighter
coming down
every single fight
he's a natural
147 pound fighter
Terrence now is a natural
147 he's come up
you know what I mean
and they're grown men
he's still growing into
the power and things like that he may have his grown man power but I'm sure he got some
steps to take you know what I mean all right so after this fight whoever win we don't see we
don't see Terrence versus boots we don't see terror we don't see arrow versus boots never going to
happen I don't think that fight ever happens why well you never got Keith Thurman versus
Mayweather you never got Sean Porter versus Pachia you know those guys were just on another level
from us and even though we were calling their names and say yeah we'll fight them and we're trying
to establish ourselves and things like that that's what booths is within the boxing world he's
practically established at this point but from a standpoint of who you bring it to the to the to the
stadium and how much what's your what's your base your uh your your your your purse minimum
he don't got the same person minimum as those guys right and he's he i mean he's still what another
a year away from that kind of person minimum
in another year those guys will be up at
154 and he'll be chasing them at 54
you know
I don't think we ever see Terrence
or Arrow get in the ring with boots
I don't think that's the business
you know what I mean I don't think it evil
but I don't know if it's about business or not
I ain't mad at that
I'm just saying my motherfucking young boy
I love Arrow and that's my dick but you know
I knew boo since he was 12 years old
so that's nephew
he's different
Different, different
You know what
You know what motherfuckers
gonna see how different he is
July 8th
When he get this nigga Roman Villa out of head
Four rounds
Promoting the next fight
I'm just saying
I'm just saying
July Eve that's when he just
I just found out this when he fight
He fought the guy to just
Dusted Rashida Ellis off
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I saw that
Watch how easy this is
Yeah
He's not gonna run for 12
Because he's not gonna
He's gonna stand there
and rumble.
Yeah, you're going to get put out.
See, this is what I don't like about boxing.
How can I fight a man
that didn't throw no punches?
I win
every round
and get criticized.
Boxing is just don't
make no fucking sense, man.
Boxing do not make no sense.
Did I just criticize?
No, I'm just saying the media
criticized. I was trying to use it as an analogy.
Not necessarily you.
I'm saying the media, you look at the YouTube
joints all of a sudden.
he ain't ready for this person
he ain't ready.
He just won every second of every round
with the motherfucker through
40 punches the whole fight.
Yeah.
And then get him one.
The motherfucker came there and gave you nothing to work with.
He just said, I'm just not getting knocked out.
That's my only goal.
My only goal in this fight is to get a check
and not get knocked the fuck out.
This man won every second of every round
and motherfucker said,
he ain't ready.
He ran.
Wait, wait, hold on.
He had another professional fighter
who was ranked number four in the division.
who came in
soon as he felt
a motherfucker punch
missed him
he felt the air
on that motherfucker's
oh what the fuck's going on
oh no no no
I think the fight we get now
is the fight we should have saw
last time
yeah
yeah and you're gonna get
I think stylistically
it would have made more sense
for Rochini Ellis
was talking shit
that he wanted to fight
but if you look
if you look at that kid
who boots fought
he never fought like that
I said the same thing.
He's like, he's from here with it.
Did not know that he was going to come to the ring and do that.
Now, you fight boots and you talk about
Bhoch, Bisho, Bisho, Bisho, Bishu, Bishu, Bishu, Pichu, Pishu, Pishu,
and Walla will tell you, after the fight, the referee is sitting right here in front of me
because we're in the front row.
He letting the people go.
He said, yo, Killy, can I get a picture with you?
So I say, yeah.
I said, man, why you let that man come in there and steal that money like that man, man
ran the whole fight?
The ref said,
That man was in the best shape I've seen anybody in the last 20 years on everything I love.
The rep said, man, that man was in.
He said because when he got to about the 7th of 8 round, I was like, he going to slow down.
He said he didn't slow down.
Yeah, wow.
Did you watch him before the fight or after the fight?
No, I had to go back and watch.
I had to go back and watch two.
Like, this is how the nigga fight.
Then I'm like, no, he's actually rumbling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that just let me know, okay, boots really.
ball man yeah he really when you feel it see one thing's for sure two things for certain
there's one thing boots always say everybody talked that shit till i touch him gilly
then when i touch him it's a whole different ball game once i touch him everybody think it once i
touch him it's a whole different ball game yeah i talked to him in his dad and he and you know he was real
short with me. He didn't like some of the things
I said on my podcast. Well, what you say about it?
Oh, yeah, you did say some crazy
shit. I don't like. No, you said some
crazy shit about what he's saying?
I can't remember. Hold on.
Let me think. Well, tell him where you heard it, first
of all. Tell him where you heard.
Well, Porta's, Portaway podcast. He don't know.
That's the Portaway podcast.
Make sure y'all tune into it. No, you actually
got some good shit going on
over there. Thank you, man. Portaway podcast.
That's why I heard it. But he's, I can't
fucking remember. This was a
while ago.
This is what I said,
damn it.
And we're going to open this up again.
Come on.
Let's open this can of worms off.
I was mad about it.
I said, I'm tired of people,
everybody walking up to me
saying boots washes everybody.
I said, as a competitor,
I can't get with that kind of conversation.
I don't connect with that kind of conversation.
I'm too competitive to look at
another fighter and say,
oh, you wash everybody.
I said, let him get in the ring with some of these guys
and stop saying he just washes everybody.
Let him fight Terrence
Let him fight Arrow
Let him fight some of these other guys out here
Let him fight
Danny Garcia
And some of these other guys out here
That everybody says
Oh he watches this guy
He watches
Let's see it
Let's see it
He's great
I give you that
You're great
You're on a Roy Jones level
Where there probably ain't
Nobody that's going to stop you
Until you start
You stay in there too long
And you start stopping yourself
That's the level that he's on
But at the same time
I don't like that people
just say,
yo, he's going to watch that guy.
He's going to watch this guy.
Like, yo, let's, let's let's let him happen.
He told him to come out of retirement.
I told him to come out of retirement.
I told him no, no, no, no, no.
I love it.
If at the end of the day, you are here to entertain me.
Man, because at the end of the day,
you are here to entertain me.
I'm not, I'm a civilian now.
Yeah.
I ain't got to worry about getting in the ring
with nobody are doing, getting here.
And you tell you when I'm here for you.
I know you is.
So I might come spar with you, but that's about it.
You got me.
Look, hey, I love this dink.
because he isn't
he isn't shit quick
we're ready to come out
over time
I'm here for you
I know he is
but I ain't here for you
Nick
I'm retired
This what you do
I'll show
Like you just look
Yeah
yeah yeah
And I don't we know
I said
You know
That's all he want to do
is
They was arguing
But that's how you
But let's really
Let's analyze
You know
But let's analyze
No no
No
I don't even know
I don't even know
I don't even know
I got excited
I got excited
I got excited
I forgot I said it
Straight up
I was like cut it off
Listen let's analyze this though
When Roy Jones popped on the scene
Nobody stopped him
Nobody
He was the kind of guy that
I don't know how people talked about boxing back of the day
But you know how they always keep saying
That boots hasn't been tested yet
Boots ain't been in this
And he ain't seen that yet
Oh that sound good
Roy never had to go through that process
Roy was knocking them down
knocking them down
and I think we got the same thing
with Boots.
Boots got Roy Jones type talent
but you're saying Terrence
and Arrow could get them out of there
then you saying Terrence and Arrow
could get Roy out of there
because no it's my eye test
back in the Roy was 147
Roy was the man
and Boots is the man
but the eye test is telling me
that I can't just say that
what he's done with all these other competitors
that are not at this level
of a Earl Spence or of a
Terrence Crawford, I don't know if everything that he does, that he's done against those guys,
if it's going to work the same against Arrow, if it's going to work the same against Terrence.
Do you know, I don't seen Boots drop heavyweights in the gym, bro?
I believe it.
I'm talking about.
You're trying to scare me right now?
No, no, no, I'm saying.
I'm saying, I don't seen boots put down a fucking heavyweight in the gym, bro.
Yeah?
A heavyweight, bro.
Boom, boom.
That's what we do.
And it's like.
It's what we do.
See, it's not uncommon.
Oh, it's not uncommon.
You don't put down some heavy weights there.
Absolutely.
Oh, shit, I didn't know that shit.
I started sparring with pros when I was 14 years old.
Not taking nothing away from boots.
No, it's the same thing.
When you're at a certain level, you can't just spar with anybody.
Now it has to be pros.
Right.
And it's got to be durable pros.
Right.
It can't be pros at your weight class because you're too good for pros at your weight class.
So now you're fighting professional heavy weights.
Right.
I get it.
Right.
One thing about boost, though.
I get it.
Seven since Boots was a kid
He always had a bad name
For not
He couldn't get no work
Because he was too much
Because he'll kill you in there
Yeah
He don't get fuck
He green
He only got full fights
Boots be over there like this
No that's cool
Fuck
Hold on Boots
No
Boost don't get fucked
You're stuck
You step on that other side
That fucking ring
With Boots
He don't get fucking green
Big orange blue
He's gonna
beach and black and blue of that
motherfucking. Boots couldn't get no fucking sparring.
Man, listen, man, I don't have a lot
of fighters be like, man, we got off on Sean.
We got him, we got him.
Well, you weren't on my level, so I was
just trying to take it easy.
The shit backfired.
No, see, you and there working on your jab.
Ain't such thing with that shit with Boots.
All Bootsie is my fucking gray.
You know what I'm saying?
I got somebody to spar with me.
All right.
This shit will go a minute and 30 seconds.
Bop, bop, you're watching, Spar?
What?
Yeah.
He's dangerous.
Bro.
He dangerous, right?
Bro.
Bro, boots last camp?
Yeah.
No fighter want more than four rounds with him.
Yeah.
No fighter.
Man.
The kids keep rotating out.
He got four rounds.
Send him to the hospital.
Come on, bring him in.
He got four rounds.
Stretcher.
Send him to the hospital.
Send him to the morgue.
He's dead.
You know what he's going to be?
his Achilles Hill
As a fighter
He loves doing this so much
Oh my God
That he don't take no rest
No he live, eat
And shit boxing bro
And the last thing
That's what I told him
When I had him on my show
I said yo make sure you get in rest
Bro he live eating shit boxing bro
You know he do not play this shit
But guess what
LeBron James is one of the greatest
Ever
And he loves the sport
Has probably done this
probably done this probably five more years than he even need to do it and he's going
going but he still get his rest he still get his recovery he's still making sure his nutrition
is right and all that kind of stuff those are the small nuances that again along the way you need
to learn these things before you start getting in the ring with the arrow or terence you need to
start learning how to get rest through the week get get as much recovery as you do the work
you know what I mean so it's like little small things I think that that's one thing that
that really could
show up for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for
be wrong yeah he could be somebody that just don't need rest right you know
what I mean right all he need to do is get in the ring with one of them and they feel that
power yeah and we're going to see if they got track sneaks and I and I love his demeanor
too yes what would you what does he said he's not a tough kid he's not none of that he just I mean
I just box man and what did you say he says everybody says that until they get in the room
Until they feel my power.
Feel that power.
That's why you said, you said I don't want to feel that shit.
Yeah.
To I touch everybody say that, Gilly.
So I touch him.
To I touch him.
Me.
Listen, to I touch him.
Me.
Everybody say.
Showns and I don't want to feel that.
To I touch him.
Me.
As soon as I touch him.
Like, see, for me, I just, I just believe in that kid because when you, when you got that much talent,
first of all, his dad is known in the city of Philadelphia for being a,
best defensive trainer
from the city of Philadelphia.
So one thing you know
when you went up the bozies
to get any fucking work was
it's gonna be hard to hit these knickers.
This ain't these knickers is going.
You went to that motherfucking gym
that was over the top of that mass jit.
The one thing you knew was
ain't shit in that gym going to work.
That's what I always saw the Farrah.
Ain't nothing in that gym.
Always defensive.
Ain't nothing in that gym going to work.
Wow.
The motherfuckers might be in there jumping ropes
with no jump rules in their motherfucking hands
they might be in there like this
we like we came up together
like we were fighting on the same
promotion promotional team
me and Farah
and me and my dad
we let that say
oh Farah's good
he's a little too defensive
he didn't let his hands
go a little bit more
now you got boots
just as defensive
is he?
Yes
but then
offensive
right
because you got to understand
that's what
that's what I was going to say
I was going to say
he's like a Shakur Stevens
and a
and a Tank Davis put together.
Because Boots came out the vagina
into a fucking boxing gym, man.
Yeah.
You got to understand.
Boots used to be a key,
probably five years old, four years old,
and he's sitting in the ring
and his brother's coming down the aisle going to fight.
Yeah.
And his dad, the trainer.
Yeah.
And then he had to gym every day
his brother sparring in there.
I just told Boots, I said,
listen, man,
the only motherfucker that's going to be colder than you
is his nephew right now
because he dropped out.
the vagina into the boxing gym.
See, a nigga right now,
he's six years old throwing all kinds of combinations.
Yeah, what the fuck's going to be.
See, but it comes from it.
But Bozzy was a 27 and a half-time black belt
and ghetto karate.
So that's where he got all the defense shit.
What the hell?
Now, Bozzy, we used to, we used to spar back in the day.
He did, do karate and shit, but he's a, he's a fucking pig belt.
He'd be hyping his status up.
Fuck out.
He'd be hyphen his day.
He was a pink belt in prison.
How you get a half a belt?
No, because he went up against karate earl and they called it the drawer.
That was my sense.
What was he for my sense?
Karate Earl and they called it a drawer.
Karate.
Karate.
Karate Earl.
First of all, let me just tell you who this thing was, right?
I didn't want to say it.
This nigga was an ex-Vietnam digger who used to take kids to the fucking park and teach him karate.
Like, he was on drugs.
He used to get to check everybody and spent all his money on pussy.
Or hook or pussy.
Am I telling the truth?
But he then used to spend time with the kids.
And Wallo used to be one of the fucking kids over there in the park.
He over there with all this dumb and shit.
Come on, Cousy.
Fuck, no.
I see, I'm three years old.
So I used to think that shit was weird.
Like, why he just wanted to take kids to the park and just something wrong with that
nigga, man?
Corradi, Earl forced Bose into martial arts retirement.
Because he was devastated.
I don't weigh in that shit.
He got to draw.
I don't wear that shit.
But anyway, he used to be in the park with his,
old fucking vietnam big and teaching him karate for no fucking reason and he's talking about him
man you're still here that's all the matter that's all the matter i practice the arts
fuck out of here so before we get out of it shan i got to know they get you a hundred million
dollars but you got to bet it on the fight sheesh you got to put it on errol spencer terence
crawford who's you dropping that hundred million on and why and why come on man you got to do
it when you look at terence crawford
and for me i go beyond the fact that he fights from the left from the left hand and and
fights from this from the from the right hand and you know i i go beyond that he's still
one of the most versatile fighters in the ring and he adaptable he's adaptable you know
and that i i i would i would believe in the rain and
a little bit more and it's like I said like this is consistency versus consistency
and this is what we know about life if you're consistent at what you do every single day
you're going to be successful these guys you got one guy very consistent at adapting and another
guy very consistent at being controlling you know what I mean but then you got another guy
the same guy that's adaptable he like to be in control so I'm I'm going to adapt when I'm
ready to adapt you know what I mean like I just I think
think it's a masterful fight it's a fight that I think the world needs to be seeing I think that
the numbers should be like the numbers of arrow of uh Ryan Garcia and tank Davis I hope that
they are because you're going to see what boxing is in this fight I would put that 100 million
on Terrence we we usually pick the same we're not picking the same on this one huh I mean I don't know man
But anybody can win, man.
Terrence is a bad motherfucker.
Arrow is a bad.
Then why the hell you make me pick?
Because you are guests.
Now, before we get out of here, I got to ask you a question.
Top five boxes now.
Top five boxes yesterday.
Sheesh.
Now, I think now is probably a little easier.
I might be able to do both.
No order, no specific order, but tank.
Mm-hmm.
I'm going to go tank
Arrow Terrence
Shakur he don't have the profile yet
but he's and I'm going to go ahead and go with boots too
them two guys right there that
who they are right now
as fighters
their profiles don't reflect who they are right now
they're going to be Hall of Famers
they're going to be everything and you see it now
they just haven't had the right fight at the right time
to really put them in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that elite status for the
sake of words but both those guys boots and Shakur I think those are two guys that
we can bet that they're going to be unbelievable phenomenal at boxers until they're done um on the
other side of that marvelous marvellous marvela haggler is my number one um Muhammad ali for the
things he did in the ring and out of the ring I think that that is just next level again one
Once of the Lifetime Generation type situation right there.
Mike Tyson.
I think again, like starting to learn Mike after the game gave me more respect for who he was in the ring.
You know what I mean?
Floyd.
We're never going to see another fighter have one style in the beginning of their career and a completely different style at the end of their career.
We'll never see that.
We'll see fighters do different things in the ring.
But he went from being electrifying, power punching, aggressive, fast.
fast, all that
to being defensive
you can't touch me
and I'm gonna touch you
when I'm ready to touch you
right
we'll never see anybody
change your style again
the way that Floyd
was able to do that
what's that three
four
that's four
one more
Roy
Roy
Roy was a bad
motherfucker
Roy was an athlete
wrapped up
in the boxer's body
Roy started losing
until he started doing
videos and songs
and shit
he was rapping
too he must have forgot
his life's one out
Roy, you must have got to go to the fucking gym.
Oh, man, I can't laugh at that.
Can't laugh at that.
Let me say, Roy got his money, man.
Can't laugh at that?
Roy got his money.
Roy, no goddamn well.
He ain't, Roy, he started losing to the video.
Vixas came in a play.
A little fucking video.
He started hanging with Liljohn and all of them things.
Oh, no.
He cut Roy electricity right off.
That's messed up, man.
Roy, my God, man.
Yeah, I can tell.
Come on, man, we got to learn.
We've got to keep reality reality.
Some realities don't need to be said.
No, come on, you know, dead well, Roy ain't started using it until he started rapping.
We know, we ain't got to talk about it out loud.
I can't co-sign this, man.
All right, well, we know we go co-sign the Portaway podcast.
Porta-way podcast.
Make sure y'all like, comment, subscribe.
He's doing this thing, as y'all know.
He is very well versed.
We're going to do a charity match, me and him, Vegas.
Trying to get somebody to sponsor.
Anybody want to sponsor.
It's a charity match
You're doing it
One of the big hotels
gonna sponsor
Listen, man
What's this fight happened
In June 29?
Oh no
Excuse me, July 29
Arrow and Terrence
Yeah, they can put you on the undercard
No, no no
We're not gonna be on the car
We're gonna be the night before
We're yeah
All right
Yeah, we're an appetizer
Let me just say
I got gear for you
I don't need no gear for you
I got the gym for you
I got the ring for you
I don't even know
You see how we talk about boots
And all of he retired
For you he will
He came out.
He'd be right for that, buddy.
Absolutely.
He'd be right on your ass.
Absolutely.
He didn't get free money.
No, we're just going, yeah, we're just going to record that.
I don't need to get paid for that.
Yeah, I don't need to get paid for that.
Damn, he's like, he's just going to go viral.
Yeah, we're just going to record that.
He's too wild old of the fuck.
Yeah.
And when it's done, you can say, I thought it had to reach.
No, this is.
And it fade out of the camera.
That's all I thought it had to reach.
And then fade out.
So did the 6-5, that he broke down like a goddamn motorbike as an amateur.
He thought he had to reach.
too.
It's a motherfucker
fight,
d' nigga six, five and shit
he's like
5, 7, 5, 8
breaking shit down.
But listen,
poured away podcast,
make sure y'all like,
comment,
subscribe,
check that thing out,
man.
He's very well versed
him with the
conversations
that he's given
out there.
And he's very
opinionated too.
And he says
a lot of shit
people don't like,
but you got to respect
it because it's
coming from somebody
who really was in the ring
and really did his thing.
Hall of Famer.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Thank you, man.
Showtime, Sean Porter, man.
Appreciate you for stopping through, brother.
Yeah, appreciate you, Biggs.
That's right.
The Porter Way podcast, check it out, baby.
Right.
And it's just like that.
Right.
