Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - STEPHEN A. SMITH | MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 202

Episode Date: January 22, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad free on Amazon music. Right. You're now tuned into me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, million dollars worth for game. This is the sports edition. Listen, man, we got big Stephen A. Smith here, man. Listen, he got a new book come out.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Y'all mean, called Straight Shooters. A memoir, second chances in first takes is going down. You know, he had a lot of second chances in his journey. I'm talking about this too You listen January 17th He's doing a book signing In Ridgewood, New Jersey
Starting point is 00:00:35 I mean It's going to be at bookends Make sure you're there He signed 20,000 books already Listen, listen Check out his podcast Noon Pocketing No mercy
Starting point is 00:00:44 The thing about this podcast It come out three times a week That's a lot of work In the podcast game bro I'm just learning that man That's a lot of work Listen that's a lot of work But you know
Starting point is 00:00:54 He's going to talk about his journey Man this book He talked about his ups and downs Man he was in Philly He was in Philly for a while, baby. He was doing this thing. He had to stop in Philly. But he just was doing his thing.
Starting point is 00:01:03 And he's out here, man, and he's just killing the game, man. And we're happy to have you here. You know what I mean? You're a sports legend. Even way it go. You know what I mean? I heard you ain't handle game, though. I heard my record was a little strong in the odds when I play ball.
Starting point is 00:01:13 They can pop that shit all they want to. When they won the court against me, they feel that way. But I wasn't no pro. I'll admit that. It is. It is, it is source to say. Sources said that my record against yours was a little better. You went to Winston Selling.
Starting point is 00:01:24 I went to a penitentiary university My stats was a little stronger than yours I was defensive player the year And I was, they said you was coming off the bench too Well, hell yeah, I was coming off the bench. I cracked my kneecap and had my first year, so I ain't had much of a college career But I was good enough to get a basketball scholarship
Starting point is 00:01:39 And a full ride despite the fact that I was playing on one leg So I don't know how many people could top that Oh, see he told me he said We don't got no stats We don't got no stats That's what I'm saying I crack my kneecap and I ain't know He could tell us anything
Starting point is 00:01:53 Anybody you never I don't know nobody get a fully paid scholarship on one leg with a half a knee. What happened? And three of my toes ain't worked. Little Bobby on Jackson State crossed him over, broke his out, you know, broke him down. That's probably what happened, you know. Please. Was it not?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Maybe. It might have been. It might have been. I'm playing the fifth. You know, shout out to all the HBCUs out there, man. Much love to y'all, man. Jackson State always. But, like, you know, as we go, I got beef with you too.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Because, Katie, my man. Okay, yeah. Katie, you stay on my man. That's my man. Whatever beef you have, I'm here. That's my man. I'm just saying, that's my man, I ain't going for that. You're going to stop.
Starting point is 00:02:26 For this day forward, KD, he's going to stop. We're going to have a talk on the side. I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. I think when healthy is the best on the planet. Okay, all right. That's what I said. I mean, it's been on the record. It's on the record.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I mean, I have said that. You do ground him up here and there, though. Well, you know what? To me, it's not even him as game per se, man. It's just that when you're that surreal, when you're that big time, man, you can't tolerate some BS. You got cats around you that ain't doing the job. You got to make sure you hold a. accountable. It can't be like, yo, man, I just want to have a good time. I just want to play
Starting point is 00:02:57 the right way. Hell with that. You're a two-time champion, two-time NBA Finals MVP, one of the greatest scorers in the history of basketball. I mean, you got to hold cats accountable. That's the, that's the position that you're in, because you can't do it by yourself. You got to make sure they're doing their damn job. Well, he ain't know it was going to be a COVID protocol. Or you know, I feel you on that. But when that happens, it's adjustment. Now, me personally, I've been on the record. I said this. I'll say this in front of y'all right now, because I know y'all are some real cats. Here's a deal. Vaccine is vaccine. I got all that. You don't want to take the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:03:29 So Isaiah Thomas was getting on me one day. And Kyrie dropped like 50 on Orlando last year. And Isaiah was like, yo, you see that Stephen A? I called the next morning. I said, appreciate you, bro. So I said, look, Isaiah, if Kyrie Irvin was on your team and there was a chip on the line, what would you have done? He started laughing. He said, we'd have tied his ass up.
Starting point is 00:03:56 We'd have gave him the vaccine our damn self. He'd have been pissed off, but he would have been eligible to play. I said, thank you. That's what I'm talking about. It's like, it's about the chip. This is what we're going for. Get over it. Get over it.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I said it then. I'm saying it now. I'll say it 10 years from now. I ain't stuck. I ain't back enough from that position one bit. All right. Now, I would say this. Everybody got the own choice.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Right. the choice of life and how to live so he's strong about that and his life is more important than the game or the team or whatever so i you know it teaches on ain't nobody wrong ain't nobody right right but i will say this i i'm not a sports guy too much you know i mean i played a game back when i was young i could have went to the league i played football baseball a little i mean a lot of places one of me you went to cabrini college stop that shit you went to a bum college nobody know that college so don't even count there so but i do know certain stuff and i i did my reading on some stuff and i i did my reading on some stuff and
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Starting point is 00:06:00 Right Outside of Michael Joy Who's the second greatest player That ever played basketball? Me personally if you're talking resume It would be Karim Abduljabah If you talk in skill To me it's LeBron James
Starting point is 00:06:11 It's LeBron James I think LeBron James is the greatest Is the second greatest player In the history of basketball Absolutely without a doubt Lebron James is the second greatest player. He better than Kobe?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yes. Absolutely. And it hurts me to say that because... I'm not saying because I need to know. It hurts me to say that because Kobe was my man. But Kobe was a scoring machine and Kobe was an assassin. But here's the analogy that I thought by a lot of basketball experts. You do understand that when you look at Kobe, you automatically think number two at his position.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Right. Because he emulated Michael Jordan. He just wasn't MJ. You see what I'm saying? And so when you think about LeBron, without question, the greatest small forward that ever played the game of basketball. You look at them 6-9, 260, the versatility, the passing skills, the scoring, prowess, and all of those things in between.
Starting point is 00:06:59 What he brought to the table, 10 NBA finals appearances, four NBA championships. We'll retire as the all-time leader scorer in the history of basketball. Shooting field goal percentage shooting was greater. Three-point percent of shooting was right up there with Kobe's, if not better. All of those things taken into consideration, didn't have Shaq at his disposal, didn't have Phil Jackson as a coach to lean on. All of those things taking into consideration. You look at Kobe without taking anything away from the black mom,
Starting point is 00:07:26 but one of the greatest ever. You just look at LeBron James as the Mount Rushmore, as a member of the Mount Rushmore of basketball. One of the top five, four or five players in the history of basketball. You've never said that about Kobe. What we've said about Kobe is that he's better than everybody, but MJ at his position. When we talk about LeBron, we say the best at basketball.
Starting point is 00:07:49 period there's a different discussion so who's your top five Mike LeBron I would tell you MJ LeBron Kareem me personally I just I can't take away from Bill Russell
Starting point is 00:08:06 and the 11 chips because of the times he was living in and what he had to go through black man in Boston Massachusetts having to deal with all that he had to deal with still not just leading as a player but then a player coach and when the championship that way. And I would tell you, after I take that into consideration, I'd bring in Irvin Magic Johnson. What about KD? KD. KD. As a scoring machine talent, yes. KD. as a leader, no. You got to
Starting point is 00:08:31 remember, Magic Johnson's in L.A. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Byron, Scott, Norman Nixon before him, Michael Cooper, Michael Thompson, all of these cats. Magic Johnson, the greatest point guard, the greatest past in the history of basketball, was also the greatest leader because he was the one that convinced everybody there's something here for all of us do your job and i do my job and together we're going to shine and we're going to own this decade you see when you look at it from that perspective what do you say about kD i love kD katy good people kD are the phenomenal playing score and all of that stuff you couldn't get it done in oklahoma city in large part because you were playing with russell westbrook and we understand what that dynamic can tell
Starting point is 00:09:11 you go to gold the state perfect system for you back to back championships back to back MVP's I think they would have three-peated easily. They would have swept Toronto with Kawha Lennon if KD was healthy, all right? But then you come to Brooklyn. And for some reason, even though I think they would have beat Milwaukee a couple of years ago before Karee heard his ankle. Okay. The fact that the matter is when you look at all the turmoil, all the chaos that is taking place, that's part of it, bro. That's part of it.
Starting point is 00:09:37 See, we want to act like the leadership element. It's not a part of it. But you can't win without a team, right? Well, part of it is making sure that your team is intact. Kobe, once he wanted Shaq gone, they trade for Powell Gasol. They lose in the finals to Boston, the first go round in 08. They come back, take out Dwight Howard and Orlando in 2009 and 10. They avenged their loss to Boston.
Starting point is 00:10:01 They went in seven back in L.A. Kobe's leadership was what galvanized those troops in terms of Andrew Bynum, Gassal and all of these brothers. Go strong, be hard. Stop being a bunch of damn sissies. You handle your business. All of this other shit. leadership plays a role.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Without that, you're just an individual talent that gives us numbers. But the leadership is what brings you chips. Right now, you say leadership. I think, I think when you talk about leadership, I think people lead in different ways.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I agree. I feel like Steph Curry is not the leader that's in the locker room like, yo, what's you doing, blah, blah. Steph Curry is like, no, I'm about to go out here and hit 10 threes. Right. And I'm at 45 points,
Starting point is 00:10:39 and y'all follow the train. Yeah, but they would still lose, right? Like you say, because I'm buffering your point. You're right. what I'm saying to you is this you got Draymond for that who's a vocal leader you got other cats that come that you know they get assembled
Starting point is 00:10:52 you got Bob Mide Steve Kerr all this other stuff but what they do is enable Steph to be Steph and so Steph is able to play a role because it's widely understood he's the untouchable dude every year when the season is over Draymond Green will tell y'all list
Starting point is 00:11:08 he takes the entire team out to Vegas right and it's why it's universally understood. Everybody's showing up. Everybody going to party. Everybody going to have a good time. But Steph, Steph don't do that. You know, Christian do, stay at home with the wife and family and all this. He just lives differently. And so because of that, everything evolves around him. Even though he ain't there, they understand there's rules that apply to them and there's rules that apply to him. See, it's that understanding. With KD, what you find is stuff that
Starting point is 00:11:43 seems a bit chaotic from time to time, not this season, but in the past stuff that seemed chaotic, who's leading, who's going to say something, who's going to stand up, who's going to be the voice, who's going to do X, Y, Z? You got all of these question marks. You don't have those question marks on those teams that have championships. It's universally understood what
Starting point is 00:11:59 everybody's role is. But you don't think today, like, and I understand certain teams, get it, and certain teams about your background, about your upbringing. Today, certain people might want to play that role, but they can't, because you're dealing with players now. that they don't want to listen.
Starting point is 00:12:15 They think they're Hollywood. The Instagram popping. They fly. They're with the clothes. They got the cars. They got the jury on the... So he might, Katie, might can't always be that guy.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I'm not saying he don't want to be that guy. It might not be his personality to be that guy. Well, I'm not, first of all, I'm not asking for one particular personality. I'm just talking about that end result. There's a multitude. Like, for example, what you just said about, what I said about him, like somebody like MJ scared to live in hell out of you. Kobe's scared to live in hell out of you.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Shack. He was fun loving. You wanted to do things for him because he was just that dude and y'all loved him to death, right? stuff is quiet all right KD might be a compilation of a multitude of things we don't know at the end of the day what I'm saying is whatever it takes
Starting point is 00:12:53 is what you're supposed to do when you're that dude y'all got a show here y'all doing your show y'all doing big things y'all know what your roles are and the people that work around you know what their roles are if somebody's out of pocket it disrupts everything
Starting point is 00:13:08 and I will say I agree with you because like that's my position like I'm a true leader Like I'm Michael, I'm Michael Joy, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, I'm Purdue. So I got to deal with, you know, he's not on that level yet. So I'm always got to deal with stuff and be a leader. So I understand, I'll be having to take a lot of stuff and be like, okay, I'm going to handle that. Now, you talk about leadership, right? I want to ask you a question, because it's all about winning.
Starting point is 00:13:30 All right. Who are you picking out of, because, because I'm going to just say this. I look at Aaron Rogers. I see him in anybody. Oh, Aaron. I was looking at the game, anybody. But I look at stats. I go to Google.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I look at stats. Sure. You're picking Aaron Rogers or Elon. Manning. Who are you picking? Eli Manning. No, no, I see who you? Oh. Me personally, I'm picking Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Why? Well, let me tell you this. Eli Manning is a two-time champion. Yes, that's all it matters. Aaron Rogers is not. That's all it matters, Steve. You can say that, and I get it. You just said, because you said chips.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Exactly, exactly, right? But I'm also looking at that pass rush that he had for a defense that helped him beat New England twice. I'm also looking at the defense overall. it's football now, I'm thinking about Tom Coughlin, who was a stickler for detail and all of this other stuff. I'm thinking about all of those things. I'm thinking about
Starting point is 00:14:23 the Aaron Rogers that was playing and winning MVP's when Eli Manning was leading the league in the interceptions three separate times. I'm thinking about the Aaron Rogers that was getting to the playoffs and getting five NFC championship games while Eli Manning was missing the postseason eight times, seven times, and eight years.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I'm thinking about all of those things too. And so then I'm taking into account Mike McCarthy and the accusations of him having an archaic point of view when it came to offenses. I'm thinking about the Green Bay Packers being run by stockholders and how there was a lot of moves that they could have made
Starting point is 00:14:56 and should have made but they didn't make. I'm taking all of those things into consideration to draw my conclusion. Basketball would be different because you give me two stars and a bunch of role players, I can win the chip. But in football, you can throw for 5,000 yards and still go home like Aaron Rogers did, I'm sorry, like Tom Brady did last year.
Starting point is 00:15:15 You can have an elite defense and not get to the postseason or not get to the championship because your offense sucks. It's a whole bunch of things, your special teams like New England lost yesterday. Special teams lost that game to Buffalo. I'm sorry, you know, on Sunday, last Sunday. Special teams lost that game. New England defense didn't lose that game. They weren't giving up much to Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Well, they gave them one touchdown to Stefan Diggs. Outside of that, they were balling. but they can't score for you. They can't play offense for you. They can't play special teams for you. Basketball is different. You're playing both ends of the floor, and you give me two stars and a bunch of role players.
Starting point is 00:15:54 MJ and Scotty Pippen showed you what they could do with that, not to throw any shade on Dennis Robman or Horace Grant before him or anything like that. But Scotty Pippen and MJ was enough to guarantee you a deep playoff run at the very least on a basketball court that doesn't work in football. Yeah, but at the same time, Steve, Aaron Rogers, that defense didn't give up a whole slew of points. I agree. Aaron Rogers had the ball in his hands twice with a chance to go ahead and a chance to tie it up. And he didn't make it happen. He didn't get it done.
Starting point is 00:16:32 He didn't make it happen. By the way, I'll help your point. He didn't get it done against the Lions to end this regular season. He didn't get it done last year against the San Francisco 49ers. he didn't get it done the year before that against the San Francisco $4.9. I understand that that bad man just fucked up.
Starting point is 00:16:47 But he's not that bad of a man, Steve. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Because you keep saying, he's a bad man. You've never said that about Trent Dillford or he won one Super Bowl. Well, I would tell you this. I would tell you this. You can't commit that kind of blasphemy. You never said that about Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 00:17:00 He won one Super Bowl. Did you just compare Russell Wilson, who was protected by Pete Carroll for years? He's only one. And Trent Dillford and Aaron Rogers? That bad man. Okay. Okay, that bad man is won a bunch of MVP's. He's thrown for 5,000 yards.
Starting point is 00:17:16 He's, when it really count, that bad man is only one time. I agree. Just once. He's been there five times. Oh, he's been to the championship game. But he only won one time. Here's what you can say about Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Just once. Here's what you can say about Aaron Rogers to buffer your point. He does not belong in the conversation with a Tom Brady. At all. He does not belong. The Joe Montana's of the world. Hell, Damon Ainkman's of the world.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Absolutely correct. The flip side to it is that up until this year you had 16 games in a regular season, and there were numerous postseason appearances where he showed up and his teammates did it. What about the NFC championship game against Beast Mode in Seattle when, you know, this cat botched the on-side kick and gave the ball back to Seattle? There's been an ordinate amount of times in his post-season career where he has shown up, and his teammates didn't and we blamed the Green Bay Packers
Starting point is 00:18:12 which was why we were so disappointed of him over the last two to three years because we had come to his defense by pointing to what Green Bay was lacking and then when they finally gave him he ain't show up. So you're right about that. But that don't make him worse than Eli Manning.
Starting point is 00:18:26 But if you give me, if you say okay I'm about to draft two quarterbacks this quarterback is going to win two Super Bowls and this quarterback is going to win one Super Bowl. a thousand times out of a thousand times I'm going with two I don't care
Starting point is 00:18:42 I don't care about the end between the seasons the seasons when he's going to in his tenure he's going to get me two championships I'm going to feel confetti falling on me twice that's a smooth way to put it I'm a feel that's a small way to twice how you would say
Starting point is 00:18:57 twice that's a smooth way to put it instead of once that's a smooth way to put it here's your problem with your argument because it's smooth very good argument I got to use it one of these days on first take I really really do
Starting point is 00:19:07 because it was real slick of you. Oh, oh, oh, don't be stealing when he's spilling. No, no, no, I ain't stealing. I'll say it. I'll get credit what credit is due. I don't steal folks' ideas. I say, this is what they did. Here's the deal, y'all.
Starting point is 00:19:18 When you draft somebody, you don't count the chips. You count their ability. And the fact of the matter is ability-wise, Eli Manning, over the course of his career, has proven that he's not on the level that Aaron Rogers is on. There is no one who knows anything about football. that would dispute that statement. No.
Starting point is 00:19:40 No one. Now, he got two rinks to Aaron Rogers, one. No doubt about it. But no one, no one would ever say, Eli Manning was better than Aaron Rogers. And Eli Manning beat the goat, the real goat. By the way, you know he beat, well, he beat Brett Farve in the Green Bay. He beat the goat.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I got you. The real goat. Twice. So the bottom line is twice. He may not win all the time, but he know how to win. He know how to go on a roll when they're nine and seven and get it done. You know one of those games they won was 17, 14, right? Now, I'm just asking you are you walking around like it was 40, 33 or something.
Starting point is 00:20:18 You know. But the game last night? What was the score of Sunday Green Bay game? Right. Oh, Aaron Rice. I'm not making any excuse for Aaron Rogers. What was the final score? The issue is not an excuse for Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:20:28 The issue is that he ain't worse than Eli Manning. They put up 20 points. He's not worse than Eli. But I would rather have Eli Manning in the two Super Bowls than Aaron Rogers in a bunch of MVP's. MVP is for Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers can have zero Super Bowls. Aaron Rogers could have zero Super Bowls.
Starting point is 00:20:43 We could sit up there and say, damn it, you are choke artists. You ain't show up. And still no one would say Eli was better than him. They would say his career was. Because of the rings. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Because you got the two rings. You had those two moments. Absolutely. And that's all that counts. Okay. That's all that counts, Steve. Okay. No, to me, the MVP's, because I know a bunch of
Starting point is 00:21:07 Matthew Stafford through for 4,9-500, 5,000 yards every year. What are we going to say about Dan Marino? Dan Marino's never want to ring. Right. But we still look at him as one of the greatest ever because we know what we saw. And we know that Don Schuller never gave him a defense. That's like Berkeley.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I'm just saying, that Barclay is one of the all-time greats. Legend. All right, legend. But he never won the chip. It's like, again, we'd rather have the chips when all is said and done. We'd get all in that. My game was like Barclays, too. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:21:37 We'd rather have that, but at the end of the day, you can't gloss over the individual greatness. That's all I'm saying. All I'm saying is, Barclay, he celebrated, but Barclay don't get the extra barbecue sauce on them because... I don't think Aaron Rogers does either. I'm just saying, you give them the extra barbecue. I did. Not over the last two, three years. Okay, I just want to see.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I'm very upset at what I've seen over the last three years. You took the barbecue sauce back. Because you were sauce anymore. I ain't taking the barbecue sauce back. I just ain't adding anymore. Oh, okay. All right. Because it was,
Starting point is 00:22:14 you put enough barbecue sauce on them in there. I don't be thinking you put enough barbecue sauce on Jalen Hertz. Jalen Hurts. Ooh, yeah. Yes. The MVP. I got him as a top two, Kenny,
Starting point is 00:22:23 no, he shouldn't be top two. He should be top one. And you know why? Because nobody expected the Philadelphia Eagles to be the best team in the league. That's why I have him as my most improved player. Nobody. You could go across. Every network, nobody pick the Philadelphia Eagles to be the first best team in the league.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I picked, no, I picked the Philadelphia Eagles to win that NFC East. Right. I picked them to be one of the top two teams in the NFC. But we didn't think the NFC was going to have three teams in the playoffs either. Oh, yeah, well, of course we do it. They got a winner for East Division. No, we didn't think the NFC got Philly, Dallas. Oh, you're talking about the NFC. East.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yes, we didn't think the NFC East was going to be. You didn't expect your ball. No, no, no. I expected the Cowboys to get in there as a wild card because I want to go home. You didn't expect your Giants. No, hell, no, I inspected Giants. That was a shocker. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:15 That was a shock. I did not expect the Giants, but I did expect the Eagles up in there. I did expect Tampa in there. I did expect San Fran up in there. No doubt about it. I didn't expect Seattle with Gino Smith either. Give them credit what creditors do. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:26 But here's my thing with Jalen Hertz. He's clearly the most improved player. He's got that award down pat. He's clearly a top two candidate for league MVP honors. And it's a discussion that y'all are going to have. have in the days to come all of us are going to have so we're just going to dismiss what we saw from patrick mohams this year you love patrick no no no no i'm not going to dismiss it i'm just going to say that okay are we talking about who's the best player when we talk about who's the best player
Starting point is 00:23:53 without a doubt it's patrick mahomes when we're talking about who's the best player this year and who meant the most to their team this year and we're talking about a kid who's in his second years of starting quarterback and he threw five. Are you in the Eagles time? Are you interstance? Absolutely. Stay with me. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Hold on. He threw five intercepts. One, two, three. A whole season. One, two, three, four, five. Just one hand. Patrick Mahomes threw more interceptions than that in two games. Just in two games.
Starting point is 00:24:27 So we can't take into consideration that this guy protects the ball. He also rushed for over 10 touchdowns. He also threw for over 20-something touchdowns. This kid is really doing his thing, and this kid is really deserves to be the MVP. Now, of course, Patrick Mahon run around. He threw passes like this. He, you know, he throws some awkward stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:52 He threw things from angles that we've never seen before. He's the greatest player in the league. But this year, for what Jell & Hertz meant to the Eagles, considering nobody considered this kid losing one. One game. One game, Steve, just one. I mean, I'm hearing all types of analysts. Oh, it's the way, it's the scheme.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Well, why the scheme didn't work for Gardner? The scheme didn't play no part for Gardner. But for Jill and Hertz, why does the scheme work? Because the kid went in the summertime and he put that work in. And he was now, is no longer waiting for wild receivers to get open. He's throwing them open. Do I get to respond? Yes, you do.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Okay. Really nice soliloquid here. Here's the deal. Jalen Hertz, 14 and 1 is a starter. Jalen Hertz, clearly top two candidate for league MVP on it, like I said. Okay. Aren't we the same organization? I'm sorry, aren't we the same folks that have said
Starting point is 00:25:58 the Philadelphia Eagles have the most complete team in football? I believe we've said that. We've looked at Sanders and those boys at the running back spot. that down. We've looked at the offensive line and we said that's one of the best of not the best in football. We got that down. Devonte Smith out of Alabama can ball. And that brother still ain't A.J. Brown, who you got from Tennessee, right? So we got that going on. We got Goddard as one of the elite tight ends in football. So we got all of that, right? So that's how we rose. Hold on. Hold on. Stay with a great job. Okay. Hold on. Wait a minute. So now we get
Starting point is 00:26:29 to the defensive side of the ball. The middle of the field is a question mark. They got the secondary they got the past rushes they got the defensive line now let's go to kansas city one of the things that i pay attention to that has me up going back and forth each day as to whether or not it's going to be my homes or hurts in all seriousness is because i'm a huge tyreek hill fan the brothers all world and the ultimate deep threat in football just petrifies you he catches a short pass he can take it to the house we've seen him do it throughout his career the worst night for a defender is for him catching the ball and then he turns around he's able to square before he
Starting point is 00:27:09 makes a move to evade you. That's how spectacular he is. Patrick when the Holmes lost him. McCole Harman ain't been that dude. Juju Smith Shuster ain't been that dude. They have no running game to speak of. All they have
Starting point is 00:27:25 is Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. And still, they're the number one seed in the AFC. Okay? With a damn 14 and 3 record with this brother putting up numbers similar
Starting point is 00:27:41 to what the hell he did when he had Tyreek Hill and Kelsey and all of those brothers. And what I'm saying to you is when you look at it from that perspective, the load that he has to carry, the Kansas City Chiefs arguably wouldn't even be in the playoffs without him.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Now where Hertz is supported is the two games he just missed and the Eagles lost both games. The fact that he missed that he missed those games and they lost those two games without him actually buffers his argument because had the Eagles won without him
Starting point is 00:28:14 it would have hurt him so the fact that they lost without him whatever argument I could make on behalf of Patrick Mahomes I now can make under on behalf of Jalen Hertz so it is a toss-up all I'm saying is it's a toss-up and all I'm saying is
Starting point is 00:28:31 that's all I'm saying is I don't want to I feel like you be making excuses for Patrick Holmes. Players leave teams every day. But listen, players leave teams, players leave teams every day. Tarreek Hill has been in Miami for a whole year now. Patrick Mahomes is going for 5,000 yards right this year, right? 49, somewhere around there, right? When you look up, Travis Kelsey only has probably 1,200 a little show.
Starting point is 00:29:03 So it's some other wide receivers out there that's catching the ball 3,000 yards worth of catches. But he's also, but Patrick Mahomes is also required to throw the football more because they don't have a running game, whereas the Eagles have a big time running game. So there's a lot of pressure that Jalen Hertz isn't asked to carry because of the pieces he has around them. But Patrick Mahomes doesn't have it.
Starting point is 00:29:27 No, Jalen Hurts, legs is what gets the job done. Because now it's mono ony mono. It's not an extra man in the box because you have to. So Saunders and those brothers don't run the football effectively for the Eagles. No, they do. But what I'm saying is that in the option of I might keep it, it keeps that defensive end right there. We've seen what it did to Michael Parsons, had him confused.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Nick Seriani said, you know what? We're not even going to block him. Because once you let him just put his hand in the dirt and go, he's unstoppable. So guess what we're going to do? We're going to make him make a decision where he never does. And guess what he was doing? Running all over the place. Tackling all the wrong people.
Starting point is 00:30:10 He diving on a running back back. Jail Hurts going down the sideline. So see, Nick Sherriani should be coach of the year as well. You know what? No. No. Why? Let me tell you why.
Starting point is 00:30:23 No. Excuse me. Fourteen and three. Pick one. No, it should be a clean sweep. Jalen hurts. MVP. Jail and coach.
Starting point is 00:30:32 You don't think it's never happened before. If Jalen Hertz is your MVP. Then who's the coach of the year? Then, excuse me. Who's the coach of the year? How about Kyle Shanahan? Kyle Shanahan. The San Francisco 49 has lost their starting quarterback in their backup.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They are winning football games with, what is it? What is it? Mr. Irrelevant. Wait, hold on, wait. Brock Percy, who was the very last person taken in the draft. What are you talking about? Okay, let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:31:01 we would all agree that San Francisco probably was the most complete team at the beginning of the season. No, that's not true. What? No. Defense, running get tech? First of all, they didn't have Christian McCaffrey at the time, so they didn't have that big of a running game.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And they had Trey Lance, who was in his second year and hadn't proven anything yet. That were not considered the most. I'm just giving you facts. They were not considered the most, you know, most. together team. They were not. Jimmy Garapola, four-star Jimmy. It was a question as to whether or not that brother was going to be even on the team.
Starting point is 00:31:38 They told him to go elsewhere and see what money he could get. They tried to give him away. So let's rewind back to the beginning of the season. Did you, Stephen A. Smith, not pick the San Francisco 49ers to have a better record than the Eagles? Yes. Oh. But they didn't.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Because I thought that the Philadelphia Eagles would be battling in the NFC East. And I knew the NFC West was weak. Right. I thought I saw a putty cat. I did, I did. It didn't happen. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:32:05 What I'm saying to use this. Arizona, I knew it was going to suck. That's why their coach just got fired. Seattle, I didn't expect to do much because they had Gino Smith at the quarterback position. Okay. The Rams, I suspect it was going to nose dive because they put it, they went all in to get their chip. And then they lost bodies and all season, evidence by Vaughn Miller going to leave in and go to Buffalo. Odell Beckham Jr. being out because got injured in the Super Bowl wasn't going to be back.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I knew they weren't. they were going to be compromised. And so you looked at the NFC West and you said, okay, by default, you really are going to be in a relatively weak division. You should be able to handle your business in that regard, where's in the NFC East with Dallas, with the Giants, with Washington.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And you're sitting there looking at the Eagles, and Jalen Hertz had not done what he did this year because he worked on his game in the offseason. We didn't see all of that coming. And remember, we were making predictions even before they acquired at A.J. Brown. Because once they go out of A.J. Brown, that changed everybody's thinking about the Eagles. Like, oh, shit. I mean, these brothers might have something going on. And it all comes down to Hertz, because we knew that they had everything else in place. And that's what the whole
Starting point is 00:33:11 season came down. Every commentator all over the TV, all over the world, said the Philadelphia season comes down to the development of Jalen Hertz. Well, God damn it, he developed. And he did it. And he answered the call. But that doesn't mean, that doesn't mean Siriani did. Listen, when Jalen Hurst was down, you couldn't win. When the team... You couldn't win when the Jalen Hurts was down. So I'm not giving him coach of the year. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:37 He's not getting that from me. But at the end of the day, he still got the best record. He couldn't do what Kyle Shanahan did. He couldn't do what Kyle Shanahan did. and sleeping the RV. I will go with that. You can't trust a man able to bust. I'll go with that.
Starting point is 00:34:03 How about this? How about this? The Swiss is sport, you know, because I know, we already know the Eagles going to win the suit, but we need to be getting ready to go to the parade and all that. No, I want to know. I just want to know, too.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I just want to let you know, too. As a Philadelphia fan, it hurts on heart to wake up and watch your wonderful show. I'm talking about wonderful award winning. I'm talking about you should get all the accolades, deserve. Appreciate you. But it hurts our heart to see you talk about the Dallas Cowboys for 20 minutes
Starting point is 00:34:37 when the Philadelphia Eagles is the number one team in the NFL and in the division. And in the division, I'm just saying, Steve, we got to do better. I'm just saying. I got to tell you a secret, a little secret. I don't like talking about the Cowboys as much as y'all think I do. I just am a person that pays attention to ratings as much as it sickenes me, man.
Starting point is 00:35:08 They everywhere. These cowboy fans. I even wrote it in my book. If a nuclear bomb drop, three things will survive. Rats, roaches, and a cowboy fan. They're everywhere. Damn.
Starting point is 00:35:21 You can't escape these damn people, man. Is it the marketing machine? It's like, it's unbelievable. I guess so because from the time that they said we're going to put our franchise on Thanksgiving Day in the 60s
Starting point is 00:35:36 they have been the most popular NFL franchise I've tried my brother I have tried I mean I understand the 20 minutes but it's two hours you see me talking about everybody else
Starting point is 00:35:51 I'm a Steelers fan bro okay I thought you was a general no no no I'm a native New Yorker but I'm a Steelers fan. The first football player I ever saw was the Immaculate Reception when I was five years old and I fell in love with the black
Starting point is 00:36:03 and gold from that point forward. But I don't root against the New York teams unless they're playing against the Steelers. Just like I don't root against, I'm Knicks first, New York always. It means I root for the Nets against everybody but the Knicks. I'm the Yankees first, New York always.
Starting point is 00:36:14 So I root for the Yankees first, but I root for the Mets against everybody but the Yankees. That's how I represent, okay? I'm telling you, man, I've tried. I'd give anything for somebody to come along and resonate as much. much as them damn noisy, disgusting Cowboys fans.
Starting point is 00:36:30 They make me sick. Me too. And I'm telling you, man, people think I'm laughing. I'm not bullshitting. I love it when Cowboy fans are misery. Nothing pleases me more. Nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And when they lose, I'm every bit as happy as I seem to know that they are miserable. Nothing pleases me more in the world of sports than the misery of a cowboy thing. They are everywhere. Everywhere. like broken glass You ever saw you ever watch You ever used to watch the show The A couple
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah You know when they're doing the intro to the show And this old woman Punches Felix Unger Yeah That's what happened to me With a cowboy thing Three years ago
Starting point is 00:37:11 Some 75 year old woman Comes up to me And punches me in my arm You leave my cowboys alone This is the shit I've had to deal with This is this is what I've had to deal with It's the absolute truth Black, white, Latino,
Starting point is 00:37:26 It don't matter. I ran into a Native American that was a cowboy fan. You can't escape it, man. They can't escape. Now, listen, let me switch up sports. And let me just say this before you switch up sports. And I don't know why y'all act like that
Starting point is 00:37:38 because y'all haven't won nothing since 1995. 95. 95. I'm sorry. My first year out of high school. I'm 46 years old. Right. So I just want to tell y'all,
Starting point is 00:37:52 I don't know how y'all still America's team. They should have been changed that. They generate the most money. Oh, that's why, huh? And the back pages. And the paraphernalia. They do everything but when. Everything but when.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Everything but when. We got to remix DJ Calla song. All we do is lose, lose, lose no matter what. You know, we sold the merch and we get them tickets up. Every time we step up in the building. I like that. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I like that. I like that. I like that. Shut up. Then they just stay in there and watch the Eagles go to the Super Bowl. but go ahead and get to your question now welcome to the episode of a million dollars worth of a game been in the spotlight where we give you the news you can use and we help you get up off that couch like gill you should be on the couch i know someone stop saying that name i'm just saying you was on the couch it's cool we'll get you some change yeah the game we'll get you some change but still get them off the couch warrior one time it's cool though we all was we always based the couch it don't matter the count is on your jacket forget it don't you worry about it but listen day we got my man already he's doing a wholesaling he's doing his thing he's young he only 25 25 years old he haven't been in the game long I'm talking about he's getting that bag, man. You think he's a smooth niggins.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Yeah, he thinks he's a hell of a guy. You give a nigga like this. He was just working. We was working that full five years ago. All right. So four years ago, I was working as a banker at Navy Federal. Right. See, look, look, you give a nigga like this.
Starting point is 00:39:06 A couple million hours. Look at him. Now, he's thinking it's smooth and stick in the country. He's like, fucking I'm smart. Rico Suave, Ari Suave. Ari Suave. Look at you, man. You're doing your thing in the real estate, man.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And you're going to give our people some game today. Yeah, man. So to everybody watching right now, don't let Gillian Wallow fool you. I was JBM just barely making it a couple years ago. Damn. Four years ago, when I was actually at Navy Federal, I never had more than $1,000 to my name, and I was actually
Starting point is 00:39:34 overworked and underpaid. But everything I'm about to share with you guys in this episode, the strategies, the step-by-step info, that's what took me from that over-worked underpaid banker to over $400,000 in real estate this year and $10 million of real estate sold. And you guys can do the exact same thing
Starting point is 00:39:50 when this game I'm about to break down. It's that easy. Hold on. Give me that number. Listen, man, what you got to do is you got to text sir shaw that's s i r s h a a a 7 4-1-2-1 sir shaw s-i-r-r-r-sh-a-a-a the 7-4-1-2-1 text that number right now listen he's giving everybody a two-hour free course everybody's getting the course two hours for free so so so you mean to tell me person could text that number they're going get a free course that's two hours long that's basically going to show them how to get the fuck about their basement how to get the fuck about your mama middle room off the couch how to get to fuck about your mama's back room warrior how to you might got your own shit but how to step out
Starting point is 00:40:36 of just being a nine to five motherfucker you might be a nine to five motherfucker that's like I don't want to get up and go to work and clock it every single day at 830 9 o'clock this two hour course going to show them how to not do that From A to Z, start to back, start to finish, front to back, all that. Exactly what you said. Well, give it to them. Talk to him. All right, man.
Starting point is 00:41:02 So when it comes down to this real estate stuff, the number one objection that I hear from everybody is that, oh, I got to have hundreds of thousand dollars to flip a house or to, you know, buy the house, right? But people don't know about the strategy called wholesaling where the way that it works is, just like people flip these shoes for a profit, just like they flip rollies, you can flip houses, and you don't got to buy them, you don't got to repair them, and you don't need. to be a licensed agent, which people think you need that, too, to get in the real estate game. So all you're doing is basically identifying distressed properties, and it works so well because people don't know. The average age of a property in the United States is built in the
Starting point is 00:41:38 1970s. And everybody's seen these houses, guys. You've probably been to your auntie, your grandma, grandpa house. They got the old cherry cabinets, old countertops, old floors. Old radiators. Oh, old everything. And people don't want to live in houses like that. They want to live in nice renovated houses with the granite, the nice flooring, the new roof, the new appliances. That's what people want. And that's why getting in this wholesaling game is so crucial because you just got to find those houses and then you sell them to the people that want to rehab them, fix them up, and then sell them to families. And that's how you get those five figure checks. So essentially, the way that you can get started is these houses can be vacant. They can have
Starting point is 00:42:16 tall grass, overgrown windows. All you need to do is contact the property owners. And you can do that by going to a website called PropStream. And once you contact them, you're going to make them an offer for the house. And then you're going to add a fee on top of it. So let's say I find a band or something in Southwest Atlanta, 150. If I can sell it for 175 to a flipper, what did I just make? I just made $25,000. You know, and that's all you have to do.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Find the houses. Sell them to the real estate investors. How do you find out the people that want to buy houses? So the way that it works is a lot of these homeowners, they've got the property. It was probably damaged. or now they don't want to be a landlord anymore. There's a tons of reasons people want to sell their houses. But usually the older houses, the maintenance just gets up too much.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And if they got the property inherited, they don't want to spend all that money trying to keep it up. They'll say, hey, I'll just sell it. And that's when you come in because as the wholesaler, you find the opportunities in the sellers. They want to sell. And then you're going to find the real estate investors that want to flip the houses. And the way that you find them, just like Gilly asked, you can go to websites like PropStream, Adam Data. and you'll pull data, like property records, and it's got all their information on there.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And then all you got to do is call them, text them, reach out. And what if you, when you go buy it and got like backed up water bills or bills on it, how do they go? So when there's any types of liens on the property, and for those of y'all that don't know what a lien is, it's essentially a right against a property for some unpaid bills. So like I had a lady one time she had $4,000, a $4,000 water bill, right? But that gets paid off when you sell the house.
Starting point is 00:43:47 and people are wondering, well, even if I get the house for $150 or $200, I still don't have $200,000 that's okay because guess what? The buyer, the fix and flipper to investor, they're bringing the money. But you're probably saying, how am I going to use their money? And this is actually a gym for you guys. Closing attorneys do something called pass-through funding. And all that is is when you go and you sign a close on that house, the attorney uses the money from the contract, from the real estate investor to buy the house from the seller.
Starting point is 00:44:15 and then you just the house goes to them and that middle fee goes to you and the seller gets what you offered them for the house That's major like Did you ever have any issues where you went to go get something And like the house was just so damaged You couldn't bring it back Oh they couldn't bring it back on it's like you
Starting point is 00:44:31 It's so easy wallow to sell these houses Because again like that just leads to the issue That we have in real estate right now For those of y'all that don't know There's a huge inventory shortage in the market People want more houses like it's so difficult to buy a house right now not because the rates are so high or people just can't get approved for loans is because there's an inventory shortage every house you're looking at across the nation is getting multiple offers so that's why it's not a better time to get in a wholesaling right now because there's so many opportunities out there you just got to be able to go and find them and when you find them and right now it's not a buyer's market as a seller's market absolutely even with the rates going up right it's still a seller's market so if you find so if the inventory shows you're So if you find some houses at this point in time is even more likely that you're going to get even more money, right?
Starting point is 00:45:22 Because the houses are going for more. Absolutely. Okay, cool. And then another thing I love about real estate guys, like think about it. Everyone needs shelter. And that's why this business is scalable and sustainable. Because at the end of the day, all these other industries and niches, they'll have their cycles. When consumer spending goes down, we enter recession, these other industries aren't going to do so well.
Starting point is 00:45:45 I'll tell you one thing, real estate has been around for hundreds of years and it's going to continue to be around because the idea is everyone needs shelter. Everyone has some sort of business of some sort. They may need commercial space. And that's why I guarantee to everybody watching right now, if you get in this real estate business, you will have a skill that's going to pay you for life. Give me that number. That's major. What you all need to do right now in order to get the two hour free course and then I'm getting into all the stuff that's going to be in that two hour free course. you need to text sir shaw that's s i r s h a h the seven four one two one that's sir shaw s i r s h a h the
Starting point is 00:46:24 seven four one two one yes see the number and the name on the screen what is inside of this two hour course breakdown what they're getting inside of there all right guys so when you text sir shaw to seven four one two one you're going to get the whole breakdown i'll put together a two hour program on how you guys can get into this wholesaling game and actually get your first deal. And for me, my first deal I closed was for $38,000. And that was more than I had made at Navy Federal an entire year of working there. And in this course, guys, I got different sections on how you're going to find these deals, how to talk to and negotiate with the sellers, how to find those real estate investors that are going to pay you that cash for those properties. And at the end,
Starting point is 00:47:03 how you're going to close the deal, how you're going to collect those five figure checks. So again, from front to back, A to Z is how to get started in this wholesaling game. That's major. Like, so So I'm Johnny Nobai. All I need is information. I don't even need no money once I get this. The thing is, Wallow, like information changes situation. I firmly believe that. Hey, let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:47:23 You've been a Gilly fan for a long time. You know, he's stealing some of my slang. He's stilling. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, man. Like, I felt as though getting rich was there had to be some sort of trick to it. But at the end of the day, I realized the reason that I'm not where I want to be is because I still don't have the information that I need to get to where I want to be.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And that's why I firmly believe, man, if you get the right information and you execute, you'll get to where you want to go. Let me tell you this in life, information is key. Information is key and it's not about what you know is about who you know. So if you got the right information and you know the right people, guess what? Boom! You out of here? I've just figured I'll put that on you. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:05 It's just major because you said something that's very important. You said you never had $1,000 in your account at once outside of $1,000. never bro and you just seen this game you said dan let me jump on this and just said you just one day said I'm quitting him go ahead and start being a wholesaler yeah bro and it wasn't it wasn't easy I remember when I actually quit my job at navy federal I went nine months without finding my first deal and I wanted to quit but I knew that staying the course was really important for me and just like we talk about real estate I didn't have my subconscious real estate right and that's when I realized that not only with me staying the course but getting my mind right cultivated my
Starting point is 00:48:42 mine, that was what was really going to get me out of my situation. And I knew there was more out there for me. Working 40-hour weeks and making $22 an hour felt like I was at the top of the world at the time. But I learned quick that there was way more out there for me. And that's why I took that leap. That's major. So what are you looking at, you know, how was this year for you in the game?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Yeah. So this year, guys, just like I mentioned, over $400,000 and $10 million worth of actual real estate sold. and that's really easy like that's light next year I'm pretty much on track to do seven figures already we're putting the plans in place and for anyone that wants to get in this real estate game think about it guys you close 10 deals a year and 10k on an average deal you just made six figures that's one deal every 30 days right how do you go about pricing a lot of people don't make a hundred thousand dollars for the year no that's your six figures how do you how do you go
Starting point is 00:49:36 about pricing like about how much you're going to get your percentage of so this is actually even in you guys two hour crash course guys so what you're going to do is you're going to run something called comps and that stands for comparable so let's say for example we're in you know a certain area of Atlanta right and you're looking at properties in that area that are going for 150 160 let's say you find a seller that she says hey I want 100 for the house that's a good sign to you because if the properties that you're trying to wholesale are going for 150 and your seller is asking 100 and you'll run the numbers of course on the houses in the area that's a great that means shoot I can make a potential $50,000 in profit because if these houses are selling for $150 and mine is similar to it and she's asking $100 I got to play there that's major right you know what I find in the rest of this guy is giving away a two hour free course you better jump on it right now you need to text sir shaw that's s I R S H-H-A-8 to 7-4-1-2-1-2-1 text sir shaw S-R-S-H-H-A-8 and also
Starting point is 00:50:40 So follow that, Sir Shaw, on Instagram because he'd be giving up game on Instagram. Now, before we get out of here, Sir Shaw, let me ask you something that's very important. You told me about your story, how your mom and dad used to grind and coming to America. Get these people some motivation before we get about it and motivate these people encouraging them about where you come from and how you've done it. And just to work, your story, not your glory. Yeah, guys, I think the number one thing that I could tell everybody watching this right now is no matter what your situation is, what you're going through, whether you're struggling financially, whether you're going through some mental issues. the very end of the day, the number one most important thing you could do is bet on
Starting point is 00:51:14 yourself. I didn't believe that I could leave Navy Federal and my bank account could grow from $1,000 because that's all I knew. But like I said, information changes situation and your current situation doesn't determine your final destination. So the number one thing you guys could do
Starting point is 00:51:30 is bet on yourself and execute. That nigga got game, yeah, me? He'd be dropping it again. And once again, get this two hour course. I'm talking about two hours where he'd give me to the beginning. Because when you do this, two-hour course, right? This is going to be an initiation to change your situation. You feel me, to take you to a different destination.
Starting point is 00:51:48 You know what I'm saying? You know, my man, he got to, you know, he put that shit together. You know what I'm saying? He took gilly goddamn gilly 101, you feel me? He was still listening, Gene. But once again, I need y'all to get this two-hour course, man. All you got to do is text, man. Text search, shard is S-R-S-H-A-H-E-H-4-1-2-1.
Starting point is 00:52:09 That's Sirs Y-R. S-I-R S-E-H-8-8- to 7-4-4-1-2-1. Stop playing games, get this game. And like he said, man, he was working. A minute ago, he was J-B-M just barely making it. Or D-F-P, dead fucking popped. He was done, man. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:52:33 He used to go inside of fast food restaurants and just eat the ketchup and mustard on the side, take packs of them and walk down the street. He was a wounded. This guy was wounded, man. He was a wounded warrior that never went to the army. Yep. He was just on the streets, man, just going through it. But look, now he's in a better place, man.
Starting point is 00:52:49 But check him out. Once again, get the free course. Two hours long. He's giving y'all a million-dollar game all in the course. Don't play no games. Listen, man. I know you're looking at all these houses. You're walking in our neighborhoods.
Starting point is 00:52:59 The house is right there in some of people's neighborhoods. They walk by a merry day to go to the store. They go to the – all there they do is get this course. Learn the game. Next year you know you're on another level. Right now. Right now. Now, text, Sir Shaw, S-I-R-S-H-A-8, the 7-4-1-2-1.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And this was another episode of Million-A-R-V-A-N-R-E-N-E-N-S-Polite, and it's just like that. Switching to sports, right? We're going to change the sports. Who do you got? Earl Spencer, Bud Crawford. Tank Davis, or Ryan Garcia. Oh, my God, you picked the two hardest ones for me, man. Let me give a quick breakdown.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Talking to the mic more. I'm sorry. Let me give a quick breakdown. If this was three years ago, be specific, if this were before the nasty car accident, Errol Spence got into, I had Errol Spence beating him because he's too small. I don't think that's the case anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I think that Bud Crawford has grown into his own and he's a bigger body. I actually think he's the superior boxer. I think that Errol Spence is bigger and stronger. but bud can box got a lot of heart ain't scared and can hurt you if I had to bet I would pick Bud to win by decision
Starting point is 00:54:18 I would but either of them could take each other out I don't think Garcia and Tank Davis are going to distance somebody getting knocked out when you say somebody who anybody
Starting point is 00:54:33 who did you say I'm gonna go with Tank Davis here's what I'm believe in. If Ryan Garcia with his quickness and his length stays away, he can do some things. But I
Starting point is 00:54:48 think because of all the chirping, he's going to find himself in the situation where he's trying, he's going to engage with Javante Davis. That is a mistake. He's done. That is a mistake. You engage with Javentine Davis, he's taking you out.
Starting point is 00:55:05 That is what I believe. but be clear Ryan Garcia is lightning quick with power and Javante is one of those dudes he don't mind taking just so he can give and he got to be careful too
Starting point is 00:55:23 because getting hit by these other cats ain't the same as getting hit by Ryan Garcia think Sugar Ray Leonard versus hitman Hurons think about their first matchup Hurd stayed the way used the jab the retina in that fight, right?
Starting point is 00:55:40 Sugar Ray, Angelo Dundee, you losing it, baby, you losing it. Famous words. Sugar Ray comes out, 11th, 12th round, like a bat out of hell and stalks him.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Body shots. Head just going after him. Like, I mean, crazy. Ultimately takes him down. Knocks him through the ropes once, okay? Hurons holds on. He's not knocked out of anything like that,
Starting point is 00:56:01 but he fell. He got up, and then Sugar Ray went in and finished him off, okay? I'm saying to you, that's how I view Javante versus Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is shot, even with his speed and power. He cannot engage. He cannot stand there and trade shots with Javentay Davis.
Starting point is 00:56:25 That is a mistake. He cannot do that. But Javante can't just be willing to take shots just so he could give one or two. It's going to take more than that to be Ryan Garcia. But I would pick Tank Davis. I would pick I would pick Errol Spence
Starting point is 00:56:41 Bud's my guy Errol's my guy I give Errol Spence a little bit more of the edge maybe 52, 48 you know
Starting point is 00:56:52 just because I think I think you know Arrow was in a car accident but I don't really see no ill effects from it I don't
Starting point is 00:57:00 he fought I don't he fought Danny Garcia I like Garcia but you know he fought Danny Garcia that's a hard one for me he fought
Starting point is 00:57:07 Ugas, who I watched physically beat Sean Porter, and they gave it to Sean Porter. So, Ugas is good. Ougas is good. He's not, he's a world-class fighter. He beat Ugas and put him in a hospital for like a week or something. So, and I think that we don't give Errol Spence enough credit on his chin. I've never seen Errol Spence hurt. I actually seen Errol Spence in the middle of a fight put his hands down, and the guy,
Starting point is 00:57:37 I punched him clean in the chin and he was looking for his mouth Yeah, but your point is valid if I said he was going to get knocked out. What I'm saying to you is that I think Crawford is going to recognize what you just said. And Crawford ain't going to stand there and engage
Starting point is 00:57:53 with Errol Spence where Errol he gets to get hit by Errol. Errol's going to have to box. And even though I think that Errol is an elite boxer, I just think when it comes to that pure skill, Crawford. Crawford has a slight edge, enough to win by a decision.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I don't think he'll knock Errol Spence out. I think Errol Spence could potentially take him out because he's the biggest, stronger dude. But he got to catch him. And I don't think Crawford is easy to catch. No, but I haven't seen people that was a lot less skilled than Errol Spence catch Terence Crawford. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Like one thing about Bud is he's going to get hit because Bud is willing to get hit to give you something. He got that type of dog in him. But I also think that Crawford, But, as you will call him, I think the issue with him is that he's like Javante from the standpoint. They taste you. And when they know they can take it, they come in. With Errol, I think anybody that gets in front of Arrow knows what Errol could do to you.
Starting point is 00:58:56 You're not going to stand there for that. Right. That's what I'm saying. He's going to move. Right. He's going to move. And Errol's a hell of a stalker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 So it's going to be a great fight. I just give, I mean, I feel like either one of them could win. I just lean just a little bit more. I don't blame you. I don't blame you. Because El Spence is a natural 147 pounds. That's true. I've seen Terry Crawford come up from, 154.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Yeah. I seen Crawford come up from 135 to 140 to 147. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? So he already three-week classes, whereas Errol Spence could go up to 154, 160. I'm glad you brought something else I want to ask you about. I feel you on that. You want me to tell you the number one reason
Starting point is 00:59:40 why I'm suspect on Errol Spence in this particular fight? Why? I didn't like Errol against Mikey Garcia. I thought he should have destroyed that little man. And I felt like... He should have destroyed him. And you know what I felt like?
Starting point is 00:59:51 I felt like everybody said, Earl Spencer only going to go in there and mall them. So he was like, okay, that's what y'all think I'm going to do. Now watch me outbox this kid. Who y'all say, I'm only going to go in there and mallum. But I'm just saying, when a guy moves up two weight classes to fight such an elite fighter like Errol Spence Jr. You're supposed to take him out.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Yeah, but you also knew Michael Garcia is a Mexican. Their chins are wired a little different. I got you. I've seen some of them that's true. I've seen some. You can run some of them into a Mack truck. They ain't going to sleep. Some of them, that's true.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Fair enough. I don't know how they're making the chins. But their chins are wired a little different. That's fair. Fernando Vargas wasn't one of them, but that's a different story for another. Yeah, yeah, he's got the book coming out, right? Yeah, bro. But outside of the book, I need you to give up some game on me and I was with a game.
Starting point is 01:00:43 There's a lot of young brothers and sisters, you know, minorities, they're going to college. Yeah. And everybody is getting into journalism, podcast, and communications. What game could you give them to get to the level of you? Because you got to stand back in the day, it wasn't too many a youth. That was one that was aggressive and interactive with the players, like, It wasn't none of you. So what's the game you could get them to get to your level?
Starting point is 01:01:09 Well, the first order of business I want to say is that I'm here. What I mean by that is that when you've been blessed and fortunate enough to be in a position that I'm in any brother or sister that comes my way and needs my advice or anything like that, I'm here for that. I'm here to help. That's my job, to be honest you. And I take that very, very seriously. Ain't no brother, sister, can come to you and tell you that they came to Stephen A asking Stephen A for advice and I ain't give it to him. You know, that's number one. Number two, I would tell you, follow the money.
Starting point is 01:01:40 And what I mean by that is, is that we got a lot of people that aspire to walk into the field of journalism, but they may not be taking, paying attention to the landscape that exists. The newspaper industry, from a paper standpoint, is a dying industry. Digital is elevating, which is why they all go in the digital route. But when you're doing digital, there's a lot of personnel that you may not feel you needed compared to what you needed in years past. And so the visual medium and the spoken medium is also a very, very powerful.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Because people, even though they're interested in reading, the fact of the matter is, it doesn't compare to how interested they are in hearing. And seeing. You see what I'm saying? When you see us talking, it has far more of a profound impact than you just reading something.
Starting point is 01:02:31 It's a detachment when you're just reading. But when you visualize, or when you hear and visualize, that's really, really potent and you got to pay attention to that. And the reason why I say follow the money is because that's where the money is, okay? Because that's what's going to inspire you to move forward
Starting point is 01:02:48 because you want to be in a position where you can provide for yourself. Everybody ain't going to do what I did coming up in the industry where I worked for free to start off my career doing about four or five internships before I ever got paid. They ain't going to do that now. Not in this day and days. They ain't going to do that now because they're looking at avenues.
Starting point is 01:03:04 And there's more to be made. The other thing that you got to remember is substance. Like, we're sitting here talking, okay? It didn't take me long to figure out that y'all kind of know what the hell you're talking about. Y'all talking about these damn sports. You got a lot of people that say they want to do shit. They don't want to put in the work. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:22 And they don't want to read. They don't want to research. They don't want to listen to people who might know. They want to listen for the purposes of challenging you and make sure, well, let me debate this, brother. Because this is how I feel. Well, no. Like there's certain positions that you might see me talking. I might have talked about Kyrie one day.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I might have talked about Colin Kaepinick another day. I might have talked about Aaron Rogers or Tom Brady or something. But I'm in a position to know stuff that the average person doesn't know. So a lot of times that taints my perspective because I might have some inside intel that the average person doesn't have. You want to be in a position where you get access to that as much as you possibly can. That way when you open your mouth, they know you know what they don't know. Right. At least some of the time.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And when that happens, that goes a long way. But I would tell you, again, you also pay attention when I say follow the money because I'm turning around. Like, for example, I work for ESPN. Well, guess what? I'm picking up the Wall Street Journal or I'm picking up the Hollywood Report or I'm picking up these other publications. Well, ESPN might be sold.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Anybody here at the ESPN telling me that. Nobody at Disney told me that. But I'm seeing the tea leaves. and I'm hearing the noise and I'm like, okay, well, if that happens, well, who's going to buy them? You know, you think about Apple, you think about Amazon, you think about these other outlets. You're paying attention to all of this stuff. Why? So many times we get caught up in our business that we don't pay attention to business.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Business sometimes influence our business. So if that's what's going on, you've got to pay attention to that. And you got to make sure that you're mindful and aware of some of the minefields that lie in wait. Because a lot of times decisions are made about you that have nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with something that's far and away irrelevant in the grand scheme of things to you. You're just a victim of the circumstances it's dictated. So it's about knowing your business. It's about following that money.
Starting point is 01:05:25 It's about understanding stock prices might have dropped about $13 a few bucks. to go. Okay, well, what the hell is it now? Is it elevating now? Why does it matter if it's elevating now? Because all that noise I was hearing about it potentially being sold, suddenly it don't matter right now because it's back up. Right. And because the stock prices are where it needs to be, why would you want to give it up? Right. Those kind of things that you're thinking about, you're paying attention to all of those different things because it edifies you and positions you to make sure that you're making the right decisions. You might have this podcast, as a hit podcast, you're doing good things, big things.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Boss two is very happy with you, blah, blah, blah. All this shit's going on. But then Spotify comes. Or stricter. Or Apple or Amazon. Well, we love you too. They do. Right?
Starting point is 01:06:13 And they offered you this, but we're going to offer you this. And then all of a sudden you're like, okay, I'm counting the dollars. But again, it's business. So if you're talking to Stephen A, I ain't just counting the dollars. Okay, I just started my money. own podcast. Well, guess what? I could have done a podcast for ESPN. I didn't do that. It's on my own. Why? Because I own my master's. Right. I own my RSS feed. I have my own car. See, see, see, now you're talking. That's right. When you say RSS feed, people don't know
Starting point is 01:06:41 what that mean. And I'll be trying to educate people. Yeah. You're talking now. That's right. And that's important. And one of the things I want to say, all the people do love us, but this is our family. Barrists who's a family. And they understand business. And they're educated this about business. That's right. And they stock it to our pocket like a rocket. Follow the money. That's right. I want to ask you this, though, a long ago, what you're doing. on your thing, and you're saying that, I just need to know something that's important because I don't think people understand it because you and him got similar qualities. This dude's a statician for no reason.
Starting point is 01:07:06 He don't get paid to be a statistician. He don't get paid for sports journalism. He just knows this shit for no reason. I don't know. He just sit around, watch a game, watch a fight, all this shit. I don't know why because that's just loser stuff to me. Preparation. When the morning come, everybody going to write first take. That night before, like, how do your life look like?
Starting point is 01:07:27 You got your notepad. Like, you got to watch a bunch of stuff to be spitting this stuff. Like, where's, how is it coming to you? How do you prepare for that? For when that, when that camera come on in the morning, how do you prepare for that? For the same, in the same way that you brought up what he does, it comes natural with me. The work that I put in ain't work to me. Because we love it.
Starting point is 01:07:47 We love it. If I often tell people, what would I be doing if I were a billionaire, didn't have to work for a living, just had this. money knew my bills were going to be paid my quality of life is going to be where i wanted it to be etc etc i would be around sports it's what i love to do right see what i'm saying and so because of that it doesn't feel that way and so what i've told people when i give when i'm on a lecture circuit i give speeches and stuff like that i'll tell people there's a difference between a job and a career a job is doing what you have to do to maintain or elevate your quality of life a career is doing what you want to do it just so happens to do that too there's a difference
Starting point is 01:08:27 And so when you have an opportunity to do what you love to do, you'll find yourself doing things you normally wouldn't do. Instead of working eight hours, you work in 12. You work in 15, and you don't even know it because it didn't feel like work. Nobody has to ask you to punch a clock. You don't even thinking about punching a clock because it's nothing to you because you're living it. And when you have that going on for you, you're on the verge of doing something special because it means you found your calling.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Right. And that's what it's about. So for me, yesterday's a perfect example. So I got two daughters. I got to go see them. Daddy's got to spend time with his little girl, but I know these games are on. So guess what?
Starting point is 01:09:10 I didn't skip the game. I just went to them and turned on the game. I'm saying. And I'm multitask. And their whole thing, no, did I watch every single player? Well, that's what you got DVRs and everything for. You can remind that bad boy, you missed a player, or whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:25 You hear the crowd wrong. What I miss? Rewind it back. Okay, let me get back to playing with them giving them their time, talking, whatever, whatever. Oh, Daddy, go ahead, go ahead and finish the game, you know, and they understand. But they come first. Yeah. But the point is, is that they also know what I love and what I love to do.
Starting point is 01:09:40 But it's never ending. There's not, I don't count hours in my day. My mentality is until the job gets done. Absolutely. Until the job gets done. Absolutely. And that's how we are. You know, we went to the Jemante Davis fight the other day.
Starting point is 01:09:55 We've seen a bunch of celebrities there They all like You got to get on the podcast We set up at the hotel right now You want to do it three in the morning We don't play When you get from the club Yeah
Starting point is 01:10:08 We'll be waiting for you Yeah just call us This our life We're in a conference room At Hotel Washington Yeah we Three o'clock in the morning All right we schedule you for three
Starting point is 01:10:16 You can come at four Okay you want to come to four 30 We don't sleep Because this is about We're trying to make history and we're trying to leave money here for people we never going to meet. What kind of history are y'all trying to make, man, ask.
Starting point is 01:10:31 History of, history of this. Everything is possible. You know, go back to the name of your book, you know what I mean, straight shooter, you know, a member of his second chances and first takes. History is already made. I spent 20 years in prison. I've been out of jail five years. It's already made.
Starting point is 01:10:49 But we add knowing to it to educate these young people that everybody got a shout out here, man, and you got to believe in. yourself and you know and there's multiple things that we teach from different perspectives but one of mine is it caused too much to be a criminal it's cool to be smart in the history of having a platform that wasn't out here we filled a void in the market nobody was messing with the young boys no platform i don't care who they they didn't mess with the young boys and it was even some are people from hip-hop but black people because they felt as though oh dumb dangerous they this after young boys they don't because they
Starting point is 01:11:20 was disconnecting the young boys might and respect them right because they wasn't communicating with the young boys they were still talking down to the young boys. So we created something that's making history because we have an outlet for the younger cats to understand and get information from Steve. Why do you think I said and ask you, how do they come about doing this?
Starting point is 01:11:36 We put information out there. Information that the people that the world forgot about is our audience and they're tapping into and they're like, damn, well, I go to a temple. I'm going for communications. I look at their podcasts all the time for whatever they look at it, but now you're giving them game. And that's what it's about.
Starting point is 01:11:54 the history of creating something that talk to people and give them information nanosecond messaging. Quick, wherever we're on social media or where we're here where they're able to get digestible information.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Not this long, drawing out thing because we living in a time where it's though people attention spans like this. You think I got time to be figuring out all this a person to go to your show or go to any of the show
Starting point is 01:12:17 and they speed it up to where they're team what they need to hear. Because you know why? It's a battle for attention. I know I got to watch this on Netflix every week. I know I got to watch my team game every week I know I got to listen to this music
Starting point is 01:12:27 I know I got to watch this podcast People already got their spaces booked in their life every week Just like you do You got just spaces So it's like We're trying to create information Where wherever it's about life
Starting point is 01:12:38 Where it's about relationships Revers about staying out of the street game Wherever it's about That's our history Creating that space For people to come and get information In a nanosecond Well my response to that would be this
Starting point is 01:12:48 I hope you realize That makes you more important than somebody like me because see the path that I had to travel although it was conventional one of the things that make people uncomfortable I never went to prison
Starting point is 01:13:07 I never committed crimes that's cool the reason why though is because the criminals were the ones who protected me that's how I was back in the day in Hollis I'm from Hollis Queen I'm from Hollis Queen
Starting point is 01:13:19 I'm from Hallis Queen yes sir I see you doing something right they like leave him alone not only that They slapped me upside my damn head if I thought about doing something wrong. Get your ass home. Get your ass to school. They watched my back. And so my point to you is that you got a lot of cats.
Starting point is 01:13:34 And one of the things that I would say to a lot of youngsters out there, as both of y'all are spitting game on everybody, is this. It's very important they understand this. Somebody criticizing what you do is different than criticizing who you are. Absolutely. If you see somebody doing something stupid, there's a difference between saying that's stupid. And you're stupid.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Absolutely. You see what I'm saying? Because if they said you're stupid, you got a right to be offended. You got a right not to want to listen to them. You got a right not to want them in your circle. But if they say to you that stupid, they're telling you why it's stupid. Right. And that way you know what stupid is and you know how to avoid it.
Starting point is 01:14:12 And you don't end up repeating the stupid act that you got called out in the carpet for. And a lot of times, you got a lot of cats that they don't want to listen. And they point to whatever hard life that they have, whatever hard circumstances that they had to endure not realizing a lot of us did it just some of us got away with it and some of us did it and at the end of the day somebody like you guys come along and doing the big things that y'all are doing it's important that they understand listen if they came to me based on what y'all telling me if i had cats come to me and they were looking at me right now i'm miss smith we want your advice or whatever i would be like did you talk
Starting point is 01:14:47 to them because they i can give you this corporate american joy right yeah and the mind feels you got a maneuver your way through. But if you're coming from here, there's a path that you got to travel and you ain't trying to hear what I have to say until somebody like y'all comes along and says, excuse me, that's the path. You got to travel before you get to this point.
Starting point is 01:15:11 And I'm not talking about levels. I'm just talking about a path. I'm sorry, I'm just talking about a path that you got to travel and all of that stuff. And so I just want y'all to know that is very, very important. It's like it's great that y'all doing big things with this podcast, but I don't, I don't want it to be minimized in any way
Starting point is 01:15:29 how important it is that y'all are doing what you're doing. And by the way, it's the job of people like myself and others to help y'all be even more successful. Oh, you do. You always have our clips holding it. Exactly. It's our job. It's our job. And we appreciate that, man. It really is. It really is. You know, we look up, and a lot of times y'all might use a clip that we had from the show with an athlete, and we appreciate that. No doubt. No doubt. And that's what it's about.
Starting point is 01:15:55 And that's why it's like, man, it's just important that we just keep creating. But just you giving that information up, you don't understand how many people that are going to school for communications. You're going to watch this and be like, damn, he, he gave me the game. He really put the work in. And there's all forms of communication. There's all forms. You can write. You can talk.
Starting point is 01:16:12 You can do a lot of different things in communications. You know how many lawyers work in our business? Accountants working our business. I mean, there's people from all marketing. Everything is in sports. Sports need anything. But once again, listen, you're going to be in New Jersey. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:29 On the 17th of this month, you're going to be at bookends. I just need to know something. How did you have time to sign 20,000 books, man? 25, actually. What was you doing? What happened is that I wrote the book. I wrote it myself. I wrote 90,000 words, and then I had to trim it down to 80 because they said they only had committed to 80,000,
Starting point is 01:16:47 but didn't tell me until I wrote 90,000. and they said that you know Barnes and Nobles Target Walmart My bad man I appreciate it You know
Starting point is 01:17:00 Barnes and Noble's Walmart and Amazon and Target everything They wanted these signatures And so they wanted signature copies And they sent me 20,000 originally And then after I did the 20,000 They came with 5,000 more
Starting point is 01:17:16 How much time did it take you man Weeks My arm damn the NFL fellow. Right? I forgot how to write the letter S for crying out loud. My name is similar to him in jail. It's a almost fellow. You know, so I had all of that going on. And I just, I just said, you know what? If you're going to do it, do it right. I was very hesitant to write the book. But I said, you know, if you're going to do it, do it right. And make sure you go all in. And that's what I did. And before Steve get out, I just want to get y'all, I want to let that go over your head. If you're going to do something, do it right.
Starting point is 01:17:48 If you're not going to do it right Don't do this shit at all Don't do the shit at all. Don't even waste no time A lot of times we be all over the place We want to do something this week And then now we off of it this week We want to something new this week And then we off of it a month later week
Starting point is 01:18:03 Listen man Find out what you want to do And do it And do it right So all the young guys out there You only get one chance to do it right Do it right the first time So you don't got to go back
Starting point is 01:18:16 And clean up a whole bunch of ninescenting that was game right there. He said, I ain't really want to do it. But when I decided to do it, I'm going to do it right. And now we, you know, you got different perspectives of the game. And coming soon, we got his own show, Gilly on Sports. Him, athlete, he going to have his show. You got to come and get on going there.
Starting point is 01:18:35 He's going to be doing his thing because everybody got their different perspectives. There's a big fill out there. But hold on, hold on. Before we get out there, too, you got to vote, right, on MVP, right? Yes, I do. I just told you. I'm up in the air right now. I'm up in the air right now.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Patrick Mahomes or Jalen Hurts. Steve, the season is over. You know Charlie Mack? Yeah, we know Charlie. That day, that day. Listen, man, nobody gets on my damn nerves about Philly. I'm telling you. Tell you, Lina.
Starting point is 01:19:06 I mean, he's texting. I mean, calls me, call me with a son in the car. Talking crazy, don't you? Just talking shit. You know what I posted up, Steve, when you had your top five and I posted you up with Greg, Charlie hit me, get his hand. I know he did he did he did he called me while I was on the air I said you do know I'm on the air right I'm on the air damn it you know but that's
Starting point is 01:19:29 Charlie man he and I go back a quarter century he's gonna work he's gonna work for him just wait at vote man this come on you know what I would tell you this y'all just better win man y'all just better win okay so seriously so we go to the Super Bowl yeah and Patrick Mahomes don't what that got to do with anything the But I'm just saying. I'm just saying, what that got to do with the price of time in China? That would really look crazy. That's weeks later?
Starting point is 01:19:54 No, no, I'm just saying. That would have really looked crazy, though. No, would it? Yes, it would. No, would it? Because I remember, primarily it's me covering the NBA. You know how many times I voted for an MVP that wasn't in the finals? No, but no.
Starting point is 01:20:07 It's a little different. Can be worried about that. You're trying to make your rules. Before we get out of here, that's what you're trying to do. But listen, before we get out of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many games are Colorado, Prime Time Colorado going to win this year.
Starting point is 01:20:19 I have no idea because I'm going to listen, I tell you this much, they ain't going to one and 11 like they did without him. Oh, yeah, without a doubt. They'll be better than that. I will tell you this. I think I'm going to give Prime three years before he's in the national championship picture. Remember, by that time they're extending the playoffs the top 12 teams. You see his recruiting in class?
Starting point is 01:20:39 I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm going to get, but I'm just throwing the cushion out. It could be earlier, but I'm going to give him three years. They're going to improve each year, and I'm going to give him three years before he's in a national championship picture, those top 12 teams, because they extended a player picture before the 12 teams. And I think I'm going to give him three years before
Starting point is 01:20:54 he's in that picture. That's what I'm going to do. And I'm going to say, I'm going to go on the record right now and say Colorado is going to win at least six games next year and being a bowl game. I hope you right.
Starting point is 01:21:07 I'm going to go on a record. And Shador Sanders is going to be drafted in the top 10. I'm going on the record right now. I'm pretty pissed off at how Prime and I go back a long ways. That's my brother. And I was pretty pissed off at how he was treated by a lot of people at HBCUs.
Starting point is 01:21:22 I'm going to when he left. Can I say this? Hold up. Go ahead. I'm going to say this. We go down to Jackson State. This is before everybody got on the, it was all hype before people saying they're going to donate money. We was at the first game.
Starting point is 01:21:35 We was there with Prime been our guy for years. Okay. Brung him to bars, too. This is our OG. Okay. We down there. First time we get to Jackson, it ain't no water. We walk into the hotel.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Prime and the team is in the bar. pool washing up. There's no water. At the hotel. At the hotel. So we go over to the Woodson name. Not saying we go over to the Woodson. He said, man, I got to fix this gym.
Starting point is 01:21:54 I'm going to spend it. I'm telling, we personally there. Right. This is before the popularity came and everybody going out there like they really was. Cool. He's like, I got to do this. I'm going to upgrade the gym. I'm talking about really being a fiber down there to these kids.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Really adding value. Brung all his relationships to the school. Right. To bring value to HBCU like never before. Millions of dollars worth of marketing. Yeah. He did his job. He did a great job.
Starting point is 01:22:18 He brung something there. Who's going to step up next? It's about stepping up. You see what I'm saying? And I think sometimes with us, I love us, but I know us. Charlamagne said that. And we got to understand this. We do this bullshit to each other all the time.
Starting point is 01:22:34 We kick ourselves down so much. We do it to each other all the time. We don't have no idea what we should be in life is what you want me to do. And if I don't do what you want me to do, I'm a sell out. I'm this. I'm mad. I'm this. But you ain't taking my journey. And ain't nobody go down there.
Starting point is 01:22:46 That nobody, ain't nobody else step up. Here's a deal. Let me say this. Let me close by saying this. A couple of things you brought up. Shout out to Jackson State. Number one, if you are a person at Jackson State or at Talladega or wherever it is that knew him and helped facilitate him getting the Jackson State job, and you have any kind of salty feelings about him, that's your prerogative.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Yeah. That's not bigger than the mission. No. See, we got to get, we got to stop. I'm talking about it as black people. We got to stop this bullshit. We got to stop being at a point where I might disagree with you on this particular issue. I might not have flowed this way on that particular issue.
Starting point is 01:23:31 And all of a sudden, that's a license to character assassinate you. No. No, we have a disagreement. Yes. About this. But at the end of the day, you're talking to a brother that I'm an ambassador for HBCU week. I've generated over 12,000 scholarships in excess of $25 million in scholarships
Starting point is 01:23:49 for black kids to go to HBCUs. It's near and dear to my heart. I'm a graduate of Winston-Salem State University, and I don't give a damn what I did. There's nothing compared to what prime time did for HBCUs. There's nothing compared to what Chris Paul, who didn't even attend in HBCU. Charles Barkley.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Charles Barkley. Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant. Steph Curry. Yes, Gary. Yes, Gary. Brown, Mello, these cats and what they've done to bring attention to
Starting point is 01:24:14 to generate revenue for HBCUs. I don't want to hear anybody. Like, you're not doing that. And then the first dude from an HBCU to go and get a job at a Big Five school, the brother won at Jackson State generated prestige and revenue for your program. All and not only that,
Starting point is 01:24:34 he's opened the floodgates for somebody to come in there and follow him and duplicate his feet. But it goes to a bigger issue that you're talking about because I certainly hear. of this all the time. You've got cats calling me all out my name and all of this other shit. I ain't no black man. I'm a brother. And for people to come at me like that, nothing
Starting point is 01:24:51 pisses me off more because you've fallen right in line how folks want you to be. Because you disagree with me on this. On sports. On this. All right. Now you're ignoring all the other shit that I've done. Just because of this. This is what we do to each other. And what you're going
Starting point is 01:25:06 find, unfortunately, fellas, is that as you continue to come on. Oh, I already know. And you are there. But it's coming even more They're going to sit up there And you on this You're over the airwaves Supporting us
Starting point is 01:25:21 Fighting for us Agreeing with us 99% of the time The 1% That you disagree I ain't shit You ain't shit Just wait for it
Starting point is 01:25:33 My advice to you Oh I'm on real point My advice to you Not that you need it My advice to you is First of all 95% of the time I don't even read
Starting point is 01:25:41 What these clowns say. Right. I don't pay no attention because I'm marching forward. Absolutely. Because the mission is greater than that bullshit. Absolutely. Just remember that. And I'm like a horse with the blinders on. I don't see the bullshit. I only see in front of me. That's right. But as you say,
Starting point is 01:25:55 slapping the blinders. On this show. I don't see it. On this show. Every now and then it's all right to see it, though. Just to slap back, just to let people know that's what you capable of. And then you back up. You know what's so crazy, Steve. I never see it. He sees everything. Yeah. I'm on point. He sees everything.
Starting point is 01:26:10 I just live in my own world. I just want to just Because sometimes you need to know You need to know who your haters is Because what to happen is Something that happened, Steve And then you had all type of people chiming in
Starting point is 01:26:21 And then they try to pull back That's right When they see you ain't fall So they can be still Being good standards I remember what you tried I know everybody I remember what you tried
Starting point is 01:26:29 I watch anything I remember what you try And he knows That's why you got to disconnect But I'm gonna say this On this show We got the new book coming out Straight Shooters
Starting point is 01:26:36 And outside of the book He made a commitment On this show That you go get the book that he will, for MVP, he will be voting for Jalen Hurts. So that's all that he's done. We got one vote already. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:26:47 He said he told him, he said, he's on the table. He was like, I got it. So we got that locked in, y'all. Just keep bumping for Jaylen Hurst. It's going down. That's not true, but okay. But once again, if you want to catch, if you win the East Coast, New Jersey, I'm talking about bookends.
Starting point is 01:27:01 You want to catch Stephen A. Smith. You want to argue with him about sports. You go get a signed book. He's going to be at Bookends in Ridgewood, New Jersey on the 17th. The book come out on the 17th. Make sure you go get his book. It's going to be online. It's going to be, but you want to see him, you on the East Coast, go check him out.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Go argue with him about his teams and whatever. Can I add this? I'm also being at Barnes and Nobles in Midtown, the New York City on 18th. Why is that relevant? When I graduated from high school and I went to FIT for a year before I went down to Winston-Salem State, I was a book clerk at that store. That's major. And you're going back to show him.
Starting point is 01:27:35 And guess what? You also, listen, no mercy. Check out his podcast three times a week. He's three times. He's working and working. Yo, yo, do you know what? He's working, bro. Just, that's a lot.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Yeah. In the show, first, you don't, how do you sleep? Do you sleep? You know what? It's just, I'm trying to transition from just doing sports. I talk politics, news. You talk everything on that. All of that stuff.
Starting point is 01:27:56 I just didn't want any limitations because so many opportunities have come my way. I'm just opening the floodgates for that right now. And who knows what the future is going to hold as it entails. But where's the sleep? He ain't turning it down. I get a good six. I was sleeping night. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:11 You know, as we get old, you know, we pop up every day 4.30. God. Thank you, God. We still have something. Thank you, God. So listen,
Starting point is 01:28:20 make sure you're pop a morning. You're an old lady in the Cowboys jersey. You want to throw some jabs and hooks at him. Get him. Make sure you pop a morning and hit him with a couple hooks to the body. I know I'm going to see y'all at the fight.
Starting point is 01:28:29 That fight happens. It's happened. We're going to be there for that. I still miss last fight I was at was Deontte Wilde Tyson Fury 3. One more question. Earl Spence? Or Geron Boots Ennis.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Oh, I like Boots Ennis. Geron Boots. I need to get to the mic. Get back on the mic. Right now I will go with Ennis. Here's what I'm sorry. I would go with Errol Spence, but here's what I'm going to tell you. Ennis.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Enis is the future. Enis is the future. If Errol Spence is going to fight him, it needs to be quick. Ennis ain't slipping. He getting better and better. And not only that, he can go either way. He can go conventionally. He can go south.
Starting point is 01:29:09 He got power in either hands. He's got quick. He knows how to be aggressive. I like Ennis a lot. Me too. A lot. Me too. I really do.
Starting point is 01:29:17 I think he's the future. You know, you know, we got him in Philly. We got cool boy, Steph. We got a squad of boxes. I will tell you this about Ennis II. I would like to say, I watched him the other night he won't undercard of Devonte Davis. I will say this about him. You know that it's somebody special when it's somebody that answers the call.
Starting point is 01:29:36 When they know that dude and everybody's expected something. Like, he don't walk into a ring and cheat you. No. He gives you what you expected him to give you. Absolutely. He comes to fight. That is what a star is made of. You got a lot of fighters that are really, really good.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Danny Garcia. Very, very, very good. But there's levels, and I think Ennis, who's in this? I think he's one of those dudes. I think he's one of those dudes. Puttennis is the future. Taylor Hertz is the MVP.
Starting point is 01:30:07 You heard it right here from Stephenney Smith. You heard him. It is just like that. Thank you.

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