Million Dollaz Worth Of Game - Where's Wallo: Kaash Paige

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

This week on Where's Wallo we sit down with the talented Kaash Paige. The Dallas native opens up about her upbringing, the journey from recording music in her bedroom to getting signed straight out of high school, and the valuable lessons she learned on her come-up. Kaash keeps it real about fame and staying grounded while chasing greatness. 🎧 Stream Kaash Paige’s latest music everywhere now! #WheresWallo #Wallo267 #RapMusic #milliondollazworthofgame #wallo #KaashPaigeYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mworthofgame

Hey, million dollars worth of game listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Right. Listen, you're on tour right now. October 10th, the new album come out, so you're filling the album, you're feeling the response, too late to be toxic.

In this world where everybody is, like, you got toxic being marketed like never before in this day and time. Like, what made you say, it's too late to be toxic to come up with the title of the album? Honestly, I feel like a lot of my fans, to call me like the toxic queen and I feel like for me personally I have done a lot of toxic things in my life I'm probably still have a lot of toxic habits and traits um I think I'm just outgrowing them I really love love I've never even got to experience until like now with my girlfriend now but

I was used to having so many girlfriends and having so much fun and cheating and lying and doing all these different things and I realized as I started to build my relationship with God I was just like it's a start it's like a lot of things I can't do no more because it just I feel convicted. I feel conflicted in doing it. And I was just like, man, like, I got to just get away from this. And so with this project, I was just being vulnerable. I was being honest, letting me know what I was doing, how I was doing it. And I just don't want to do this more. You've been, listen, you've been in the game for a while now. You hit the scene in 2019. When you first hit, what was on your mind? Like, what was you thinking? Like, when you went to

go create the music, how was the experience coming into the game? It was exciting because, like, I started out making music with my dad when I was like, what, 15 years old in high school. My freshman year, sophomore year, I was just making songs, dropping on SoundCloud. I didn't think nothing of it. I was just trying to be competitive because I thought I was going to be a track star, like on some flojo type of vibes. And my dad, he loved music. He made him and my mom's closet into a studio.

And so I would always hear that every night like, do, do you. And I'll be like, dad, like, you always up. Like, what are you doing? He was, I'm making this music, man. I got to, you know, I got to take us there, you know. And he just was really inspired. And he was like, you got to do music. You see these kids, my honest behavior, OMG girls.

Like, you know, you got to get into that music scene. And I always walked around the house singing, but I never really had the, you know, I never really wanted to do music. And so when I started to make it with him, it built our relationship up. And I was like, I'm really good at this. And so as I started to get later into, like, do a music on SoundCloud and just later in high school, people were just saying I was really good. Radio shows in Houston were, like, reaching out posting my stuff.

And I was like, I need to graduate early. And I went to another school to graduate early. They was not trying to accept me. They were saying I was like, tart. Like, yeah, they were just saying, like, just from behavior, like, a lot of fights. But I was never the one trying to fight. I think it was just the type of school I went to. I just had to protect myself.

And just a lot of tardies, like very tart, like a lot of absence failing. And so I had to play my music for them. And I told them, I was like, one day I'll be famous. Like, y'all have to let me into school. And they were like, we like your music. But they were like, you mess up one time. gonna be able to get in here and her name was miss mabry and she let me and she accepted me and i kid you not two months into school i graduated early and then i kept just grinding going to the

studio um secretly because my parents didn't get into divorce and i couldn't record with nobody my mama's strict she was not letting me record no strangers yeah so yeah so i just started recording with people like under the table like just real quiet and then she just started bringing more light to me performed at south by southwest for the first time knew my life was going to change at that moment um because i always heard when you go to south by southwest you know it means like you doing stuff and at that time um say cheese was a really big thing because he's from dallas as well and i know he from philly from philly too yeah and so um was just i met him and he put me on the radar over there and my life just started dramatically changing and randomly got hit up by

death jam and uh it kind of just went on was it quick for you did it happened quick it happened really quick but I think it was one of those things where it was like I kind of was determined just from seeing my dad's drive and I knew that he really wanted it bad and he wanted it for me bad and it was like getting signed straight out of high school too was pretty crazy for me and I didn't go to prom I didn't do none of those things I kind of just walked the stage and they're like to Kyle a cash wage wool and my friends just clapping for me you know like screaming taking pictures with them and I was like I really did what I said I was going to do like how was it like when you first got into the industry was it with

you thought it was going to be or was it more hurdles or like what was like what was going through your mind? I feel like it was most definitely what I thought it was going to be fame came really fast getting flown out to all these different labels trying to pick who to go with not one of my family involved because my mom was really scared and I thought that scaredness was going to make me like just not do it at all and so being really naive not looking at contracts want to just sign because I seen money and I seen fame and so I you know I didn't sign a a pretty good deal but I'd say that deal changed my life and so yeah why did it change your life because I feel like if I wouldn't have took the opportunity I don't know if I would still be

cash page like if I would be where I am now I feel like it taught me so much like I'm out of that contract now but I feel like if I didn't go through it or experience it I wouldn't have known what a real good contract looks like or what leverage feels like I had all the leverage in the world I could have you know negotiated the contract better but it was just me You know, I was just trusting everybody around me to lead me the right way. But, you know, God is a very intentional man, and he knew what he was doing. Did you have a lawyer? I used their lawyer.

You, hold up. You used the label lawyer to help you? Yeah. And did you, you was like, oh, yeah, he got me? And then he was, after the fact, he was like, I used the label lawyer to help me, and the things ain't go right. Yeah, and then you read more into the contract. And it's like, it says that, like, just because you use our lawyer doesn't make, you know, doesn't won't breach this contract. So, yeah.

Yeah, but how was you able to get out of the contract? I have a really good relationship with Tungi. Okay, Tungi. Shout out to Tungi. Yeah, shout out Tungi. I love Tungi. He's a beast. He's a beast. Because I got signed over when Peter Rosenberger was over there, and I reached out to Tungi, and I was like, Tungi, I've been over here since I was 18. I'm 24 now. I left when I was 22. I was like, I love you to death. I love DepJM.

I love everything that y'all have done for me, but I said, it's time for me to end a new chapter in my life. I said, I don't know what it's going to look like. But I need to leave. And I was like, can I please leave Def Jam? Because at that time, they were low-key kind of drop an artist like flies. And so I was like, this might be the perfect time to ask. But I also did know if I recouped or I'll be able to get out. And he said, Cash is a big ask.

He said, I don't want to be anybody in your story that held you back. Shout out of the time. Yeah, he was like, let me talk to the label. Let me talk to the attorneys and see what we can do. Say, give me a few months and I'll hit you. Kid you not, like, I was talking to everybody about a lot of people who were just like, you're dumb like if you go you get out of depth jam like your career is going to be over like nobody's going to know about you you're going to be a has been like it just wraps for you and I was just like

that's the devil the devil's trying to get in my head to keep me in this I need to get out of this I don't know what's for me is scary yeah I don't know if I'm going to get signed again but let me just get out and Tungi texting me literally as all that spiritual warfare was coming and he was like hey I got good news I'm going to be able to let you out but just keep a promise to me he was like just don't go bashing us and I was like I'm not even that type of person but i was like no i got you man i was like i promise you i won't ever forget this and you know he was just like let me know if you ever need anything and then kind of just parted ways and that voided my contract with the other team that i signed to it was a production team that was

major and then you was able to just go yeah how was it starting off like first of all before we get to that who was the positive voice in your life that was like no you're gonna be cool when you leave you could do it but you did you have somebody that was positive out of everybody else's something you was going to be stupid? I feel like my parents. My parents were really, like, they wanted, they were extremely happy that I was, like, leaving. Them and, like, Tavis Chalkway,

he was the A&R that brought me over to Dev Jam. Just talking to him about it, he was just like, man, like, I think this is going to be big for you, you know? And I honestly did know what was going to happen for me because you leave a major, and then you kind of just try to figure it out. I feel like a lot of people kind of just move away

because they're just like, yeah, oh, you're going to be a one-hit wonder, all you got love songs, this, this and that. But it's like, I got a huge catalog. outside of love songs. Like, love songs, that's my, I feel like that's my Mariah Carey. You know, Mariah Carey, come on. Like, obviously, she's a huge, like, I love Mariah Carey.

But, you know what I mean? Like, when Christmas come around, yeah, it's going up. And I feel like that's how I feel about love songs. And that song's so special because I made it with my dad. And so, like, when I left, I was like, I'm still going to have leverage. I still have a good name. I'm still, you know, being able to sell out shows

or just do shows in general. And I left, and it was kind of, you know, it was kind of quiet for me. And a lot of people didn't want to sign me. it was kind of hard, honestly. It was really hard. I got signed earlier this year by Rostrum, but I got signed last year.

Rostrum, they're the ones that had Wiz Khalifa early in his career. I remember hearing that name. He used to always say Rostrom on his early stuff. It's crazy because I'm a huge fan of Mac Miller. And earlier this year when I was in Paris, Yeah, I swear to God, earlier this year when I was in Paris, Mac Miller was in my dream. And he was like just sitting in the studio.

And I just got done doing an interview saying like the people I would work with that are like, you know, passed or whatever. And he was in my dream and he gave me a hug. And he was like, congratulations outside of a Rothstrom. He was like, they're going to do right by you. And he was like, just stay down. Just keep doing it. If I ain't mistaken, I think they're from Pennsylvania. Mm-hmm.

They're from Pittsburgh. Yeah. Yeah, they're from Pittsburgh. Benji. Shout out Benji. He's a really good man. The whole team's a really good team. And yeah, it was just, it was life-changing.

Like being able to go from people not calling my phone, people not. trying to deal with me, like, because I was reached, I have like a, I feel like the people that all follow me, right, I can reach out to all these A&Rs, all these execs, all these presidents, all these companies. I'm reaching out to them. The whole thing was I, like, you were just with Def Jam, like, we don't know

this, this and that, like, oh, you were still in UMG, like this might. And I feel like to me it was bullshit because I get a hit song right now. Everybody call you. They're going to call and be like, yo, cash, like we got to lock in, this, this and that, but I believe God did it exactly how it was supposed to be. And

I was about to sign last year, but whenever I was in the midst of signing, this dude was trying to sign me. You know, like, I don't like the thing where it's like, say, for your artist, and I'm like, yo, man, I got your best interest. Like, I got a homie over at Republic. Let me get you signed over there. And I'm genuinely trying to get you signed. This one dude tried to give me sign and asked for like 20% of my master's. And it was like, oh, like, I can't have 20% of your master's like, you just can't do the deal. I'm just like, bro.

20% of your master's. You know? Just for the intro, just for a finance fee. Yeah. So did that discourage you? It most definitely discouraged me. And I already had took the advance at that time. And I had came out to Roshman by like, I had to like pay them back.

Like I had to pay them back the advance and shit just from taking the money from them. And like that hurt me too because I was like, like I just moved back to L.A., everything going right. And I'm like, I didn't did the deal with these people. And this dude like, well, you really can't do the deal now because you didn't get my 20%. And I was just like, people are just so evil, man. Like I've never been that type of person. But also I feel like I can't expect people to be like me. And this is business, you know, it's not personal.

But, yeah, it's just been, you know, a hard journey when it came to, like, leaving the major and then trying to find my way again. And then now it's like, I'm going back on tour. And my first tour, when I was at, you know, 2023 when I was with Dev Jam, every show sold out. Crazy, you know what I'm saying? I'm with CAA, you know?

And then I just, the China tour sold out. Like, my overseas fan base is amazing, huge. And I did this tour, and it's like, it's indie. And it's like still seeing my fans, still supporting me. I'm only on the third show now. None of the shows have sold out. But it's like I had to tell myself,

you're starting from scratch again, but your scratch is scratch and just be grateful that you're even able to step on a stage because God has so many plans for you. And I started off my life so fast. Like from house parties to song blowing up to them asking me to be on main stages, and I'm embarrassed myself.

And so it's like, I feel like this was how I was supposed to start off anyways. And then the other night on the, SOB stage I started crying because I was like damn like my A&R at the time had told me he said just know when you perform my SOBs your life's about to change and that was when I was 18 and that same day my mom made a picture of me in New York on that same day doing a press run and it's been a minute since I've been in New York and so I was just like wow like this felt like a full circle moment so I'm just like mad grateful I'm even grateful for like us to be even talking right now

you know I told you years ago I was like yo I just dimmed you I was like yo this is hot you hot. I'm like, you're going to keep going, you know. I just be seeing things and I like, I don't know, I just, I just like music and I like people that's just them. And you had something that stood out in the song would just do. I'm like, yo, it's your hard. Like, you know what I mean? But it was still like, everybody still ain't know. You knew, but you didn't. And I think when it's something where it's like, it's boutique, but it's not, it's something special, but it got time and it got it got space. I believe, like, it's not about being hot.

It's about being permanent. And what you're doing is permanent. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Like I told you, permanent is like where it's not about being hot this year or next year. It's about people connecting with an audience that are always going to vibe with you whenever you decide to step outside. You ain't got to step out. It ain't no pressure because I think now artists got this false pressure of if I don't see you everything on

social media. If you don't post, hey, Deb, you're not showing me your life. You're not, you're cold. It is over. No, that's not your people. At all. Your people are not, people is like, go back and live so you can tell us some more stories. Yeah, they're excited. Come back. Yeah. So how was life for you when you was going through the journey relationship-wise? Was you in your toxic, was you in your toxic world? What was going on through all this stuff going? You're leaving the label, people playing games with you, you're trying to figure it out, you're trying to get a deal. What was life and relationships are about? Man, I have a huge testimony, and like a lot of my team, they don't want me to speak about it because it's like they think I'm a little bit too personal.

I don't give a fuck. Yeah. It was very hard for me. I went through a lot of spiritual warfare. Coming into the game, being around people that represent the devil, rituals, all these different things. I was really into stuff like that because I'm like, oh, that's what's going to get me there. Like, I need to be around those type of people. I need to be representing this

and I didn't have a really strong foundation or relationship with God and I feel like in the midst of my transition God worked on me so much he took me away from smoking weed drinking he took me away from people a lot of people left my life

and he took me away from the people that were doing the things that I had no business being around and it was lonely I will say he took a lot of stuff for me I just have all this money I was giving it to the wrong things he made me broke I have no money

I have to leave up L.A. And I kid you not, in the season of that, it kind of felt like the Book of Job. And it made me closer to God than ever, because I thought that when I walked away from a lot of that stuff, I was going to be flooded. And I'm like, man, everything's about to come to me now because I'm choosing God. God don't work that way. God lets you know he loves you. And he's going to do everything to make sure that he restores everything that once was lost, but he's going to give it to in a different way. The things that you might have seen as like the big houses and all the money and cars, all that stuff that you might have seen

that was like, oh, I had it, I was really up there. That was nothing. That's all materialism. When your soul and your spear is not right and it's corrupted, that's the part that he cares about. And I feel like for a long time I had to get that right. And now that it feels right, everything feels right around me.

And I just, I needed that. And I just feel so grateful that I'm on this journey with him because it feels more impactful than whatever I first came up because when I first came out up and out I wasn't spiritually in tune with anything, you know? It seemed like God remove and replace.

Remove everything that's not meant for you and replace it with things that was truly meant for you because I think sometimes in our life we feel as though like, oh man, you know, this is what I want and we believe this is what we want and sometimes I think the idea of what we want and what God want for us is two different things. It's like we want what everybody else tell us

that we should have or we want whatever we see everybody else supposedly have and we don't even really have a conversation with ourselves or a conversation with God to say what is meant for me and it's like you know I'm gonna do what I need to do by worshiping you God and being having you on my life so whatever's meant for me you will provide I shouldn't but but I think we have this idea of this design that everybody it's like our mind is designed by most by all these people it's like you know how you you walk through life it's like everybody mine is designed by all these people and they're not letting god help design their mind so they're just like this person this person this person and you forget yourself and it's like

when god remove things out of your life he replaced it what was supposed to be in your life and was meant for you exactly i think it was meant for everybody is different no two people is the same but i just think a lot of people you know when you're removed from god you don't understand that You don't understand it at all. Yeah. And you feel spiritually lost. You feel confused all the time. And I feel like I always was trying to figure out what was for me.

I would feel like when people walked out of my life, like, what did I do wrong? And I'm always been that type of person. If I feel like I've done something wrong, because I'm not the best person at times. You know, if I'm disrespectful or whatever, at least I'll take accountability for it. But when people used to leave my life, I used to not understand. And shit, just before this tour, me and my management part of ways, I was trying my best to make sure, hey, whatever I've done, you know in this partnership that has made you feel a certain type of way I truly apologize and they're like no everything's good and it was like in the midst of

everything happening tour all these different things they walked away project dropping walked away and I was like wow and I was very and I knew I felt the intuition I was like man I feel like they about to walk away from me I feel like they about to walk away from me I was like God I trust you and um it's crazy like I feel the best ever and like no shade to them it's like they come and and all my stuff, but it's like, I wish them about the best, but it's like one of those things where it's like people falling, you know,

like falling, I wouldn't say falling off from your journey, but it's like just what you just said, like God removes and replaces. He haven't replaced me with a new team yet, but I think he showed me, this is, he showed me and allow me to experience it to let me know like, okay, when a new team does come in, you will know exactly who to, you know,

who to build with and these will be your destiny helpers and I believe they were destiny helpers in my journey but I feel like in the new elevation parts of it it was some things that I just couldn't that just couldn't go with me even when you think about family sometimes everybody just can't go my mom always tells me everybody can't go as much as you want them to everybody just can't go some people hinder you some people have to grow so that y'all can meet another in another lifetime or next month whatever you know but it's like God works on everybody differently and not everybody is a bad person We all go through bad seasons, you know?

It seemed like somebody told me, I forgot who it was. They said you got to, it's three H's in life, three H's. People that hurt you, people that hinder you, and people that help you. And it's going to come when you, the people are going to come in your life. You don't know who it's going to be, but you will be able to fill it. And it's just like, it's just real. Now, one thing about you, you're extremely transparent about your life, especially when it comes about love,

you're like real vulnerable with speaking about relationships and love and you're transparent. How did you get that in this world where everybody is so judgmental and everybody's like, everybody afraid to be like a human. Like, I love you. Please come back.

I'm hurting if you leave me. I can't live life without you. You don't hear that no more. Even in the music, people are just afraid to just be like, baby, listen, I'll do anything to get you back. I might die if you don't come back. I love you so much.

Like, how would you ever to be so transparent with your music? Honestly, I think it's just like about being honest with myself. I feel like the more you lie to yourself, the more it hurts. And I've done stupid things in my relationship where I was just like, like, this is the only girl I want to talk to. And, you know, at nighttime, I went out, messed around, called her, first person to come make sure I'm good if I'm throwing up or whatever.

You know, and I was like, damn, like I'm really treating this person bad. I'm not being the best version of myself with her. I have to change my ways. And I feel like with that transparency, I think that's when you can have a self-reflection, you can look at yourself in the mirror and be like, yo, I am a fucking person right now or I'm I need to clean up. I think that's when you realize a lot about yourself and you're like, damn, like, this is the best place that I can be in because I know exactly what I'm doing.

And I feel like a lot of us know exactly what we're doing, but we don't want to admit it. It's like when you know you're lying to somebody, when you know you're not. not, you know, being your authentic self or whatever. It's like you feel that. People can't sit up and act like they don't feel that, like, confliction in themselves internally. You know, if you don't, then I mean, you must have been a fraud for a very long time. You know what I'm saying?

But I don't know. I feel like even then, like, everybody deserves to be honest with somebody, even if you can't even be honest with yourself, be honest with God. You know. He's going to change a lot in you that's going to bring a lot of that out of you. And I feel like that's all I had to do was talk to him more. And I felt he started to bring a lot more to light for me. And then you were my friends.

I felt out with a lot of my friends. And we came back closer and stronger than ever just because we all like, what do we even fall out for? It's like, oh, what shit? Well, I was, you know, I was being greedy or I was this. You know, I was being selfish. I was being considerate. It's like when you tell somebody how you were really feeling,

I think that's what makes everything 10 times better. Now, but too late. to be toxic right well all is going on in your life everything going you know after love song come out you was on read for you dying with dine and Travis you just was now you started back over you're going through life you're going through ups and downs too late to be toxic and and first of all what is toxic because you know you the way you you got you you would know because the way you talk about it so what is toxic for me is just just a feeling of knowing to something's not like you're not doing something right like it's like if i'm cheating like that's toxicity in a way

of like i'm doing somebody else wrong but also i'm feeding myself an energy that i don't even need in my life you know so i feel like toxic is just something that you just that does not serve you that's what toxicity is me now the album what made you come up with the title what would you thinking what would your approach to go record um last year i had met this kid named pice we started just recording He records himself and he moved in with me. We just started recording every single day. And I never had that drive to be in the studio every single day. I never had that drive.

And I felt he put that battery in my back. And with him living with me, we just started recording every single day. And I was dated her at the time. And I was in L.A., like I said, messing off and just having fun. And I just started being super vulnerable to my music. And it kind of tapped me back into my park car combos vibe because at that time I was very vulnerable. But I was very vulnerable because I was like doing ecstasy. You know, it was like at that time like serotonin levels and all that stuff just all over the place.

But this time I was just like, man, like I really need to let people know like this is what I'm doing. And it kind of felt like a confession to her too. You know, she loves my song. She loves my music. It's hard for her to listen to sometimes because she's just like, she didn't want to hear that shit. But I think she understands that it's a version of myself that I had to, you know, destroy to, you know, to. become what I am now and it's like we're just talking about it the other day all of us in the car just like man like this next chapter is going to be fully elevating you know and I don't want to stay in

music for long honestly I'm keeping a being music for me I'm starting to feel very conflicted in it and so I just want to be used as a vessel for as long as I can and I don't want people to see me or listen to my music and be like yeah it's cool to go cheat on my girl or listen to my music and be like yeah like I got to be this player or I got to be up or this this is a and that, like, that's not what I represent. I want people to know that this is my story and this is what I went through. And if you're going through the same thing, relate.

But just know, you need to change your ways. So how are you feeling about the response to the album, like touring, connected with your fans? Like, how do you feel right now? I feel really good. I feel really good. I feel like, because the album just dropped the other day. So when I performed at the SOBs, it was dope.

Some of them knew some of the songs and some of them were just like, but when I said, y'all got that too late to be toxic, they were like, yeah, we got on our phone. You know, like they were all excited and stuff. So I think after tonight and then the tour ends November 9th, I feel like I'll be able to see more of a response as far as, like, being in physical, like, form. But as far as online and stuff like that, it's been really great.

I will say it's different, though. Like, when you're with a major, then you're with, like, an indie major, the type of engagement you get is a little bit different, like, as far as, like, all the big, you know, like pages posting you and stuff like that. Like, I didn't really see all that. But I would say real engagement and real life pulling up on DSPs and playing my project, they were really excited.

They were excited for me. And it was a blessing. And I was just grateful to be there. And it just was fun. We do it feel to be free. Because it seemed like you just feel you freer now. Yeah, I feel like less pressure. And you're just like,

I feel freer because it's just like, I think it's just one of those things where it's like you don't feel contractually enslaved to anything. Like my deal. or Rostrom is a really good deal. It's not like I'm like contractually like, you know, like in like I have to stay with them type vibe. Like it's an option deal.

So it's like it was 15 songs and an option. And they're really great people. And I think it was just like I had all this music and I'm still sitting on a whole bunch of music. So it's just like they want to drop as much as me. And I feel like with major sometimes, not every major label contract deal is like that. But I feel like sometimes you can be in a deal where shit you got to drop. 10 projects you can still never get out and I feel like I just feel free to do whatever I want they don't make me feel like I have to make R&B music obviously they love when I sing and they love

R&B but it's like I said like I made EDM projects and a whole bunch of other projects and I want to be with people or a partner that's going to allow me to draw whatever I want so that's what makes me feel free because I feel like a lot of people try to put me in like the Summer Walker and the Jenea Eco categories and it's like they're amazing and I would love to perform next to them and you know be in the same conversations with them, but it's like there's so much more conversations I can be in, you know? And so it's like I want to just continue being a chameleon

and however long it takes, I'm not going to stop but I would say, like I said, I'm not trying to stand it for a long time. What did you listen to? What do you listen to? Who do you listen to? Growing up, I listened to a lot of Nirvana. Like, I got them tatted on my back. Yeah, you're on some, yeah. Yeah, so it was like, I love alternative rock and

just like, I like heavy metal rock too. Like fly leaf and stuff like that, but I would say it just kind of differentiates. It's like from them, I listen to a lot of Drake growing up. Like, Drake was probably one of the first artists that I heard growing up. Like, my parents had this 2007 or 2008 Drake CD, and I put the CD in the CD player. I was like, like, I play So Far Gone.

Yeah, I heard like C.C.'s interlude and Lest for Life and all. I was like, whoa, all these different songs. And the genre was at that time, I was like, that really inspired me, like, to make the type of music that I was making. I was like, he's vulnerable. you know like especially at that time he was really vulnerable and it was kind of like the singing slash rapping thing and um i love erika baddoo um but wait to my newer generation to whatever whatever you listen to wherever i would say for the beat selection i'm i really

a rock four nine okay yeah rock four nine and boss man dlo yeah they yeah that that beat that yeah like that shit yeah like that should sound good in the car you know what i'm saying so i feel like i'm really rocking with them. I'm honestly just really open to listening to anybody. I kind of listen to everything. If I had to go on my phone right now, it would probably be so many different types of artists. So I can't think up the top of my head, but I know what, I love

hearing the speakers not gone, though. But listen, Cash, I appreciate you. What about you? Who me? Oh, me? All right, so my playlist is a little wow, right? I can show you, like, mine's is a little different. Is that the air? Yeah.

Fire. Fill it. Don't drop it. Oh, no, I dropped it. I'm a phone dropper. Now, if you go right here, right, you go right here, look. I'm going to show you, like, because I think I'm a DJ too, right? So I don't know people probably don't listen.

Don't, like, my playlist. Look at my whole playlist. Go ahead. Charlie, probably, Hallow, Woolf, Graves, Jesse Buckmore. I got to listen to these people. That's new cover art crazy. That's art. Yo, Gadi, okay?

D. Smoke. He's hard. Young Thug. Jay Electronica. I f*** with Jay Electronica. Oh, you got to hit this. This is the artist right here. That's me.

DJ Wildo. Oh, okay. You see my mix? You see my mix? Pump up the jam. Pump it up. Okay. Gonna make you sweat.

Finally, what is love. You know what I mean? So, it's all over the place. It's all over the place. You most definitely. in your bag. Let me see you're so on a quick bob. I know y'all doesn't. No, you're cool. It's all over the place. Like, I think, like, when you see, like, you know, to see people like, that, I think it's real, I think it's, I think you can really connect with new music if you, it's real important

to connect like that. Just, you know, let me, what you got. And you're a fine, you're like, you're like, yeah, I got to take out the Anna Graves girl. Yeah. Oh, no, she's, she's hard. Is it like alternative? Yeah, country. Country, okay. Yeah, she's going, we, She's going to be on here. She's hard. I'm fucking country music. I was just listening Lady Annabellum yesterday.

All right, so you got you. You got Thug. You got Little Baby 21. You got livable, lovable. Key Glock. Damn. Oh, you got some stuff

I don't even know about. Swampa? What's that? Swapa's hard. Pluto. You got Pluto on there. You got Drizzy on there. You got Lohemmy.

You got you. You got eight. So you look at all this. You got Gunna on there. You got the Carter 3 in there You got Stolly in there Oh you know about Stiley Leon Thomas

That's into a lot of old Kirkgo Bang Yeah Oh you're not playing August I've seen it DJ Khalid You got some people over here Yeah Zip Blue

Young Thug Oh you got Amory in there You got Yeah In the neighborhood JuCJ Yeah

You're not playing I like JuCJ The Gun plus a mask Yeah When he had Yellow Wolf I'm a huge Yellow Wolf Yellow Wolf was that book. Yeah, truck music.

Yellow Wolf came out. When he was out at the same time, it was a movement of dudes out. You had Yellow Wolf, you had Starly, you had Dom Kennedy, you had currency, you had Mac Miller, you had Ms. Khalifa, like, all these dudes was out at the same time. And it was just like, and listen, it was just crazy. They had a bunch of, all these tapes was banging, like, mixed tapes. They really need to bring mixed tapes back. I know.

They have to bring, like, the Best Buy era, like when artists were pulling up to Best Buy, signing autographs, signing CDs like, I feel like they need to start making cars again, even the new cars, like with CD players. I feel like that would bring a new era back because I feel like now it's like, it's not real.

And music's just mad over saturate. I'm like, I didn't drop the album on the same day. Millions of other artists have dropped. Like, you know, so I just feel like back then people were waiting for like Nicky and Manots to drop and, yeah. I think it's really about if you have a personal connection with the artist based off of

them just really being who they are, I think, is different. And then people just showing their personality and showing who they are. Because you really can't, there's so much music coming out unless you really tap in or somebody puts you on, you really don't know. That is true. You know what I mean? But I appreciate you, Cash, for coming through. I appreciate you too.

Keep doing your thing. I told you years ago we was going to tap in. We tapped in. You know, too late to be toxic is out now everywhere. Listen, man, it gets to the point where you're too late to be doing certain stuff. She said to herself, thank you for sharing your journey, man. No, thank you so much. I appreciate you having you.

Massive success. I believe you're dope. I believe you embrace your individualism. I believe you're talented. I just believe that you got it. Keep being you and don't never fall victim to nobody rules and nobody fence. You know, people be out here just creating fences saying you can't do this. You can't do this.

If you can't do this. If you don't do this, if you don't do this, if you don't just live. I'm born those in them homes. You got to think about it. You only 24. You got a lot of life. to live. I'm talking about always better on yourself. Always know that you the shit. If you see it any other way, you're going to be in trouble. But I appreciate

you. I appreciate you for coming through. Much love. Thank you. We're out of here. Where's Wallow? Cash Page. You know,