Mindfulness Meditation Podcast - Mindfulness Meditation 03/15/2017 with Sharon Salzberg
Episode Date: March 17, 2017Every Wednesday, the Rubin Museum of Art presents a meditation session led by a prominent meditation teacher from the New York area. This podcast is a recording of the weekly practice. If you... would like to attend in person, please visit our website at RubinMuseum.org/meditation to learn more. Presented in partnership with Sharon Salzberg, the New York Insight Meditation Center, and the Interdependence Project. Sharon Salzberg led this meditation session on March 8, 2017. To view a related artwork for this week's session, please visit: http://bit.ly/2mArcEY
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Welcome to the Mindfulness Meditation Podcast.
I'm your host, Dawn Eshelman.
Every Wednesday at the Rubin Museum of Art in Chelsea,
we present a meditation session led by a prominent meditation teacher from the New York area.
This podcast is a recording of our weekly practice. If you would like to join us in person,
please visit our website at rubinmuseum.org meditation. We are proud to be partnering
with Sharon Salzberg and the teachers from the Interdependence Project and the New York Insight Meditation Center. In the description for each episode, you will find
information about the theme for that week's session, including an image of a related artwork
chosen from the Rubin Museum's permanent collection. And now, please enjoy your practice.
Enjoy your practice.
Hi, everyone.
We're talking about being whole this month.
And so I hope you made it here in one piece.
It looks like you did.
And believe it or not, next time we see each other, if you're here next week, it will officially be spring.
Just take that in for a moment. Might help you on the track home.
So as I mentioned, we're talking about being whole this month, and we're using the visual element of the fractal to symbolize that. And when we see fractals in nature, we often will see them in a snowflake or frozen water.
We'll see them in plant life, like the fern frond.
Or we'll see them even along the shape of a coastline.
even along the shape of a coastline.
And a fractal is a repeating pattern that builds in terms of its size.
And you can see in the most minute detail of a fern frond the same exact shape that you see in the actual fern itself.
And this reminds us of the relationship between the whole and the part, and is a metaphor
for us this month in terms of the Buddhist teachings and what we can find even if we
sit with just one teaching in particular and how fruitful and deep an experience that can be in and of itself.
Today we are looking at a mandala. And mandalas typically are a kind of,
maybe not exactly an exact representation of a fractal, but they certainly evoke that experience of looking at
a small detail and seeing that resonate throughout the rest of the image. And certainly the shape
of a mandala is repeated in that same way. So we have the center core and then kind of circles and
squares around one another concentrically until they reach the outside.
And a mandala is, from one perspective, thought to be a kind of palace that you enter really through your mind,
not necessarily a physical place, but a place that a practitioner might go specifically for meditation.
So it's interesting to consider today in this setting,
though we're coming at this from a different way.
But the mandala is, in fact, this one that we're looking at today
includes four different mandalas within one.
So you see that these four are distinct from one another.
And the experience of the practitioner would be to picture themselves inside this kind of layout
of a palace. So what you're seeing here is sort of like the bird's eye view of four palaces that make up one.
And so you can see the doors, the four doors, four directions, the four gates that you can enter through and work your way towards the center of each mandala is the sort of most divine being or the most divine physical location there.
And that's true for each of these four segments here, as well as the overall mandala.
So if you look at the very center of what we're seeing here, there is the red Buddha Amitayus in the middle there.
And this is the four mandalas of the Vajravalli cycle.
And at the center of each one is a different representation.
So we have clockwise from the bottom left,
we have Vajrapani.
And then above that, Vajradattu.
And then Shakyasima or Shakyamuni Buddha,
the historical Buddha some refer to this figure as.
And then lastly, on the bottom right, Marichi.
So Sharon Salzberg is here with us almost for the whole month.
It's so great.
And she's talking with us about this idea of being whole and this metaphor that we're looking really quite deeply into this month.
Of course, many of you know Sharon by now.
Anybody new here today? I'm just curious. Oh, good. Great.
Welcome. So Sharon is the co-founder of the Insight Meditation Society of Barrie, Massachusetts.
She has been studying and teaching for many years and is the author of really wonderful books. If
you want to, if you're new to this and you want to take your practice to another level and you want
a great book to help you do that, Sharon's books are excellent for practitioners,
experienced and brand new. So please welcome her, Sharon Salzberg.
It's so beautiful, isn't it?
I love looking at that.
Hello.
Snow.
Snow.
I was supposed to go to Massachusetts on Sunday
and back here yesterday.
So everything switched.
I didn't make it to Massachusetts at all.
And I had one of those days, many of you
probably did as well yesterday, where
I didn't leave my apartment.
It was quite interesting.
Snow.
So next week is spring.
Maybe we'll talk about renewal next week.
So I was thinking, and also looking at that very beautiful piece of art,
that often when one thinks of a fractal, what we think of is repetition.
And repetition is a very interesting notion,
because the aliveness of something that's repetitive
depends on the degree of our presence, of our observation,
of our interest.
Because mostly, we tune out.
We rely on some kind of novelty in order to feel alive,
in order to really feel captured by something.
Rather than looking at the quality, the degree
of our awareness, the quality of our awareness,
really, to see what makes this an experience of connection and fulfillment
or one of just kind of skipping over or waiting or boredom
or whatever it might be.
So I also thought of this time in 1984
when I co-founded, as you know, a retreat center in Massachusetts,
the Insight Meditation Society, in this little town called Barry.
And in 1984, we invited a Burmese meditation master named Saira Upandita
to come visit and lead a three-month retreat.
And we'd never met him before, but we heard he was a very great teacher,
so we invited him.
And I sat that retreat, as did many of my friends, and he was a really tremendous, a great, great teacher.
He also turned out to be really kind of intense and demanding and fierce, even ferocious.
And it was like every once in a while I'd look at him
and think, what did we do?
Although he and I had a really great relationship.
And we were seeing him six days a week for each of us
individually for just these short meetings
where we were supposed to describe our practice.
And he would get some feedback.
He would give us some feedback about that description. So I began my meditation practice actually in January of 1971.
So it had been almost 14 years by the time he appeared.
And I hadn't worked with a teacher for a few years at that point.
And I hadn't worked with a teacher for a few years at that point.
And in addition to Sayodoro Pandita being kind of intense,
he also had a teaching style which
involved a lot of repetition, both in his discourses.
Sometimes it would be like night after night after night
after night.
Like, really?
Same topic?
And also, in those meetings, he would just get on a thing.
And it would last for who knows how long, usually,
until something shifted inside of you.
And then he'd go on to some other thing.
But we got into a thing very quickly where I would go in
and I would describe something, maybe something beautiful
and peaceful and delightful happening in my meditation practice.
And he would look at me and he would say,
well, in the beginning it can be like that.
And I'd think, I'm not a beginner.
I've been practicing for almost 14 years,
but there was nothing to say.
So that was it.
That's the only thing he said was in the beginning it could be like that.
And maybe I'd come in the next day and I'd describe something very challenging and difficult
that I was grappling with my practice and he would say,
well, in the beginning it could be like that.
I think I'm not a beginner.
And then day after day after day after day,
whatever I described, he had one answer.
Well, in the beginning, it could be like that.
I even left his room at one point in some frustration,
thinking, I wonder how come everyone said
he was such a great teacher?
He never says anything.
All he ever says is, well, in the beginning,
it can be like that.
I'm not a beginner.
And at one point, I felt like there was a giant neon 14 in my brain like flashing out i'm not a beginner i'm practicing for 14 years and then one
day something did shift inside of me and i thought oh that's not an insult remember like beginner's
mind and it's supposedly good to be a beginner to feel feel like a beginner, that, you know, when we're at
the beginning of something, we are open and interested, and we're not so jaded and, you know,
not so caught up in expectations, and which I frankly was at that point, you know, like,
oh yeah, I know what comes next, or oh yeah, I just have to get through this, and then there's that,
or, you know, or I've seen this before, or whatever it is.
And I was a long way from the days
when every single breath was different,
even though it was just the breath.
And I was like, I got it.
I thought, oh, it's good to be a beginner.
That's actually what you want.
It's not the state that you awkwardly start out with
and circumvent as soon as you can.
That's actually a good thing.
So of course, the day I got it was the day he stopped saying it.
And he went on to something else.
But I think we can be so much that way in terms of meditation practice.
For one thing, there are methods.
There's guidance.
There are tools.
And it's easy to think, oh, it started with that.
Why is that still here?
That's like 101.
I should be way, way beyond that now.
And it's confounding to us that in a lot of ways, the instruction never changes.
We change.
And our understanding changes and our experience changes and our ability to let go changes
and our interest in what's happening, even if it's not like flamboyant and dramatic,
it changes.
Our ability to be with adversity changes.
Our compassion changes.
But it's still often like sit down and feel your breath, really.
We used to joke, my colleagues and I,
that this was like the easiest thing in the world to teach
on a certain level.
I mean, not like Upandita level.
Because he got it in me.
It was like amazing.
He just picked that up,
that sort of jadedness or
half-heartedness. And would I have gotten
it myself? Eventually I actually do believe that because I really
believe in the integrity of one's practice
and that these things do get revealed to us.
But he got it a little sooner, I think,
than I got it. And he really, sooner, I think, than I got it.
And he really made sure I understood it.
But apart from that, we used to joke,
like, yeah, you only ever say one thing, like be aware of it
or could you be mindful of it.
It's not a lot to learn in terms of the scope
of your instruction.
But it's not that easy to do.
And it's not that easy to be that simple, for one thing.
And to do the same thing again and again with that kind of actual intensity, presence, wholeheartedness.
I do look back in those days when I first began,
which is now 45 years ago or more,
my meditation, and I think,
it felt like a miracle to be aware of a breath.
It was such a big thing, like, wow.
And so amazing, and wow. And so amazing.
And something you'd like talk about,
like I felt little tingles or whatever,
and I think, oh my God, I can't believe we talked about that.
But wow, it was so extraordinary.
And that spirit is not dependent on the object.
It's not dependent on the tool or the technique.
That's dependent on what we're bringing forth
in the process of paying attention.
And so that's our opportunity with repetition,
with simplicity.
It's our challenge, of course.
And it's our opportunity to really arrive
and reawaken and kind of get there again.
So you have your inner Upandita now,
who if you start feeling like,
ah, yeah, I know what's coming next,
or I can't believe I'm still with the breath,
or whatever, you know,
you can Google him to get a visual.
You know, you have that inner voice now that can just remind you of like,
it's all right if this is it.
You know, how are you with this?
Okay, so let's sit.
See if you can sit comfortably.
Your back can be straight.
But not strained or overarched.
Close your eyes or not, however you feel most at ease.
If you start to get really sleepy, it's fine to open your eyes and continue on. You can start, if you like, by listening to sound, whether it's the sound of my voice
or other sounds. Just let the sounds wash through you. And bring your attention to the feeling of your body sitting,
whatever sensations you discover. Bring your attention to the feeling of your breath.
In this system, it's just the feeling of your breath.
In this system, it's just the normal, natural breath.
You don't have to try to make it deeper or different.
You'll find that place where the breath is clearest for you or strongest for you.
Bring your attention there and just rest.
See if you can feel one breath. Without concern for what the very next breath, just this one. If you like, you can use a quiet mental notation,
like in, out, or rising, falling, to help support
the awareness of the breath. Thank you for watching! If you find your attention wandering, you get lost in thought, you fall asleep, don't
worry about it.
We say the most important moment in the whole process is the next moment after you've been
gone.
After you've drifted away.
It's the moment of recovery, of recapturing our attention.
First letting go of whatever's been distracting.
Letting go gently.
And then with kindness toward oneself, just returning your attention to the feeling of the breath.
So if you have to let go and begin again a few billion
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Be well, be happy.
See you next week.
Thank you.
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