Miss Me? - Bear Necessities

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver discuss camping, finger sucking and bad people that make great art.This episode contains very strong language and adult themes. Credits: Producer: Flossie Barratt Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan HaskinsMiss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

This is the BBC. This podcast is supported by advertising outside the UK. BBC Sounds music radio podcasts. This episode of Miss Me contains very strong language, adult humour and Lily Allen Dutton! Well, here we are. She's returned. She's back in the bits. She's back in the Brooklyn bits. I did miss you so much.

So that I mean, David was a lovely you know second choice cover whatever but a little bit of housekeeping to do there I just want to go over the Kardashians claim a little bit. A little bit of housekeeping. Yeah go on what did you think did you listen you you listen to both the meaty drop and listen bitch? I did. I had a listen to both episodes when I got back. I thought they were very good. Well done everybody. I missed me. I missed you and Lily. Of course you did. You're like why isn't this as entertaining as I usually find it? I'm not there. Mm. That's a little bit like fast forward this bit.

Yeah. Where's Lily? No. I will just say that I've never denied watching the Kardashians. I just haven't subscribed to the same logic as you, which is that you study them in terms of like inspiration for running your business. I don't. Like, I just watch

it as the dog shit entertainment that it is with my daughter in my bed. That is a nuance difference you're right. And I will also just clarify that I have never watched an episode of The Real Housewives ever in my life. You know what? I knew you hadn't. By the way, not that I have anything against it. In fact, I'm actually intimidated by the sheer volume of it. I know that if I start it, I have to watch all of it. And there's so much of it now that it will literally take me a year to, like, get up to date. It's a really tricky game, Lil. Mum played that game and we lost her for a few months, years.

We lost her to, like, Pentecostal. I was like, who are these bitches? Do we really care about these ones as well, mom? You know me. And if I take up a job, I'm going to see that job through until the end. And so I can't start Housewives until I've got like a year and a half to commit to it,

which I don't have right now. Anything else? What did David say? What does David think about me? Yeah. He thinks you're batshit crazy. No, no, no. Can I just say also, I was in Scotland having a really like pressure-filled week emotionally. Yeah, I know. We did actually discuss that. We thought it was quite bold of you to shoo in a depth, essentially,

which is industry speak for somebody that's stepping in for me. And on the same day that you were having a pretty intense family reunion kind of a vibe. Like that seemed like quite on brand for you though, as well, like sort of like, not much, no, nothing really massive going on here, nothing completely, you know, life altering and changing.

And it's just another bit. My favorite thing of your social media though, over the past couple of weeks, which I feel like is indicative of the fact that you work with your mom so much, is that when you introduced your dad on Instagram, you were like, first day filming with dad. I was like, is this,

is this like starting as we're meaning to go on? Like you really are, it's the Kardashians. You're like, it's- Oh my God, stop it. Yeah, no, you're right. It's because I'm so used to working with my mum and suddenly I was working with my dad. My dad is Scottish and as the world knows now, my parents were just a one night stand. So I had a bit of a relationship with him, as you know Lil, like sort of, till about

seven, and then he disappeared and went away and didn't really tell me why. And the fucking story of my life with men. It's so clear. It's just so clear And then that's where all the pain comes from and then he my sister found me on Instagram And then we got very close about eight years ago, and then I've I reconnected with my dad About five years ago, but my mom has not been involved in that Scenario so much yes, and I mean, I text you, I remember actually, I text you when I went to Scotland the first bold time in January 2022, and I sent you a picture of me and my grandma, and I said, I just need to tell you, I've gone to Scotland to meet them all,

and this is my grandma, and we fucking look alike, and you were like the person I needed to tell, because I knew that you would understand really what it took to go do that. I was weeping. I was in in bits. Were you? Yeah don't even remember like we had the conversation because I had felt like you know you are my best friend and I love you very much but there is a side to you that and I love you very much, but there is a side to you that can be sort of tricky and dark sometimes. And I had sort of resigned myself to the idea

that that was down to the absence of part of your identity or Scottish identity, which I never really thought that you would reconnect with. And so when you did make that reconnection, I could sort of hear a lightness in your voice that I didn't think would ever happen. And so, you know, I thought that that was something that you would have to live with forever

and that would, you know, sort of torment you to a certain extent. And yeah, and I think that shit is heavy. That stuff is heavy to carry around, that absence and that longing. Yes, it really is, which is why I thought it quite strange that you decided to preface it with an interview with my husband. Well, we're all family now. We're all family now. I said to David, I said,

who the fuck am I to you? Like, what do you know about me? And he was like, I know very little. I was really interested in the fact that, like, how do you tell David what we are? You know what I'm saying? That was quite like, so I didn't, we just changed it. He will struggle with that as a reference point anyway, because he's not, you know, David doesn't really have like, he's got one childhood friend that he went to school with, but he doesn't really have, you know, what we have,

which was like, you know, a whole group of like a clan of people that all grew up in and amongst each other. So it's kind of like a bit of a foreign concept for him to get his head around anyway. But we did talk about that in the wake of your, you know, connection on Miss Me, we spoke about, he was like, explain to me what you and Meketa are. I tried to explain to him the dynamic of how we came to be in each other's lives and how,

you know, even though we've had sort of our ups and downs, which we have had our ups and downs, like, even in the sort of darkest depths of the downs, it's never been like, I don't think I've ever been able to say it's over between me and her because it's just that it's not an option. Like we're family, like there are too many like other moving connecting parts. Like even if I wanted to cut you out, I couldn't, it would be too difficult. Not that I want to, but you know what I mean. Yeah. And also I think that in the times where we've not spoken I've never gone oh this is better I like Lily not being in my life like it's been really horrible I think we we genuinely did miss each other thank god we got the podcast missed me well done us

but I had to have dinner with my parents and I mean my mother and my biological father and my brother and my stepmom and Auntie Sandra came, thank god. And it was interesting for me to see my mum vulnerable like that. My dad makes her feel a bit vulnerable, I realised, and I think it's because they share this huge fucking thing and they don't know each other. It's such a strange scenario, but really it's not because I am not an anomaly. Being raised by one parent and not knowing the other is not particularly Special but when you bring it all back together 40 years later, it's just fucking weird

But it's not as well It felt like the beginning of something like even the beginning of the dinner was a bit Different to the end the end we were just it was easy and nice I'm really happy that we all did it and my mom then then said later, and Lil the next day she was like, she's like, how does she quite fancy your dad? No. No, but weirdly, weirdly my producer fancied my dad. She was like, he's such a handsome man.

And my dad is a handsome man. And my mom sort of looked really weird. And I was like, well, you liked him once too, right? It's just weird. It's like, of looked really weird. And I was like, well, you liked him once too, right? It's just weird. It's like, of course she did. He's the father of her child, but she doesn't really know him. But they're getting to know each other again.

And then they have all this familiarity between them. Families are strange. There are things there from the past that just come through. And now I have, you're saying we're like sisters. I'm very used to having like you and Phoebe and Neymar and Tyson and Mabel as my sisters basically. But I actually have a sister now and I have a brother. They're both brilliant, but I've just been with my brother

and he is just, I'm getting to know him more and he is such a dude. Like, he, oh Lily. He's called Louis. He's very tall, handsome, kind, sweet, turned up in double denim and these like silver earrings because our uncle's a silversmith. And took us around Glasgow School of Art

that he used to go to. And I was just like, you know when you're like, this kid's cool. I'm like, no, he's my actual brother, like through blood. It's just so fucking weird. But I just, I love spending time with him. We went and played pool. He's very good, course course he is but I beat him

obviously right right knows his place knows yeah he knows his fucking place but yeah it was great it was a bit life-altering but you know I've been there and wherever the fuck you are I don't even really know where you went or for how long but I know there were seals and black bears. There were seals, there were bears, there were orcas. So I had my nightmare trip in LA, and then I flew from LA to Vancouver, and I met my friend Olivia there.

When I got into Vancouver, I got stopped at immigration, and the immigration officer was like, you know, what's the purpose of your trip? And I was like, I'm here to see the orcas and the bears. And he was like, okay, go through, you weird person. So the first day we went on this like hour and a half long boat trip up to this place called Hot Springs Cove, and then we walked

through the forest for a couple of hours, and then you come out at these hot springs where the springs meet the sea. Jesus, oh! That was incredible. And then on the way back on the boat trip, the woman was like, oh my God, I just saw a blow, which means a whale blow.

And we were like, oh gosh, so exciting, so exciting. And then my friend Olivia was like, can we get closer to it? And she was like, no, we have to stay at least 500 meters away from the whales. Fair enough. And we were like, oh, but have to stay at least 500 meters away from the whales. Fair enough. And we were like, oh, but we've seen pictures of people close up to them.

And she was like, yeah, they do a really good job of marketing, you know, all those photos are taken with like long lens cameras and blah, blah, blah. And we were like, oh, okay. And then Olivia said, you know, oh, do they ever like breach the water? Like, do they ever come up? And she was like, hmm, I haven't really seen that.

Maybe a couple of times since I've been here, which is eight years, but not really. And as she said it, this humpback whale just jumped out of the ocean and did this flip and then landed back down. And we were all just like, what is going on? That's like nature. Yeah, nature.

And then we got a boat to this little island called Alert Bay. It was sort of like a First Nations island, a little First Nations community. Only 1,200 people lived on the island. And they do this cultural exchange once every year where they invite people from outside, you know, First Nations tribes to come and have dinner. And they talk about their history. And there's like a big fire in the middle of the- No, I saw this picture.

I saw that picture and I was like, what's that moment? And that's what was happening at that moment. Yeah, and then they did all these like, you know, the dances and it was just really fascinating. It was like three and a half hours of like sitting in and amongst the people and they're explaining the history and I didn't realize it, but like, you know, Canada was really, really, really bad in terms of trying to sort of eradicate First Nations people.

Yeah. From Canada. And they had these residential schools where they would take children away from their families and put them into these schools. Loads of children died, were separated from their families. It was illegal to have these, what they call potlatches, which are these ceremonies where they speak in their native language. Yeah, take away people's culture. And yeah, it was illegal to speak the languages as well in those times.

And so I think it wasn't until like the 90s where these residential schools stopped happening. So it's like a big source of like national shame for the Canadians, you know, what happened to the First Nations people. So it was very nice for us to be able to go and understand a little bit more about that. Yeah.

And we did a coastal safari the next day. Okay. And we saw three bears, and then we went and had lunch on this little island, and then we saw a bunch of orcas, which was what I really, really wanted to see. So I was just so happy. I ticked everything off of my list of stuff to see.

It was super relaxing. We were off grid for three days. And I wonder why you even picked here because everything else throughout the summer, it felt pretty standard, you know, lovely Italy, Greece. But then this was quite a curveball in the plans. Yeah, you know, I was talking to David about this. I really, I'm not like necessarily like a particularly outdoorsy person in the sense that I don't love hiking or camping, per se, but I do love being in and amongst the vastness of nature and animals.

And there's something about mountain ranges or enormous forests or rock faces, and then also like big animals, dangerous animals that makes me feel small in a good way. Yes. It's like, I feel like the nonsense of the modern world just disappears and it's like, oh yeah, I really don't need to worry about all this stuff. Like there are bears here. Yes, exactly.

While I'm at home, no, but it's so true. While I'm at home, freaking out about this thing. There's like bears on this mountain grazing. They're fine. And like 60 foot whales just like flapping about. Like there's just enormous shit going on in the world that we don't even consider because we're so caught up in the nonsense of our like digital lifestyles and and it was just very nice to disconnect from all of that and and you know people say the thing about traveling is a lot

of people are trying to get to a place where you feel all at once like a giant and like an ant so it's like oh my, look at this vast universe. There is so much to do. There's so much to experience. Ah, I'm a giant, this huge thing. And then it's like, God, but also, I'm just this tiny little ant with my weird anxiety and my flat in Hackney.

Yeah, and it was funny actually, because I was talking to the woman, the proprietor of the hotel that we were staying at in the last bit of our journey. And she was saying that they were there during COVID. And while, you know, the world was like going insane and shutting down, she was like sitting on the dock one day and then there were like these two grizzly bears that came down and she was just like, they've got no idea what is going on. And why would they? And why would they?

Don't give a fuck. no idea what was going on and why would they? And why would they? Like, don't give a fuck! Exactly. Literally bare necessities, bruv. Bare necessities! Just tell me what I need to know. Here's your food, you'll swim there today. Cool. So then that trip ended, we flew to Vancouver and I got an overnight plane from there to New

York and I came back home very briefly just to dump my bags and then me and David drove up to Massachusetts to go and see the girls. I had my famous... It's camp time! Finally! It was camp weekend, which luckily coincided with Hurricane Debbie, okay? Who hit the East Coast. I haven't even heard of her.

Yeah, Hurricane Debbie hit the East Coast on Friday. So I was driving up there and like, it was so like comedic, like there were literally fallen trees on the highway. David got out of the car and like started like lifting logs up off the highway with like other people from cars to try and unblock the roads and I was like am I really camping in this tonight? Is this what's happening? You're right, you're not even going to like the Four Seasons at the end of this. It's like no I'll be... Well I had I had booked a hotel thinking I'll just go and see the girls and I'll be like

lovely to see you I'm gonna stay in a hotel I'll be just go and see the girls and I'll be like, lovely to see you. I'm going to stay in a hotel. I'll be back tomorrow. Anyway, so I dropped David at the hotel. Then I drove to camp, saw the girls and I told them my plan and Marnie was like, that absolutely won't be happening. You'll be staying here. So I was like, no, I was like, I've just come from the nicest hotel I've ever stayed at in my life.

I really don't want to stay here. So was this about bonding for Marnie? Marnie was like, if you, we want you here doing this experience with us just for the night. She just wanted to snuggle with her mom. She hadn't seen me for three weeks. She was excited about being in the, in the thing. But I only had a single blow up mattress. So Ethel was just like, absolutely no way.

I'm not getting in that tent. I'm staying in my cabin. But then David was stuck back at the hotel with no car. So I had to leave the camp going, get David, give him the car. He dropped me back at the camp. And then I had to like, you know, load up our tent, blow up the mattress, like while it was dark in like gale force winds.

There were rivers of rain going through. It was horrendous. But anyway, so then we went and did this evening where the kids had to reenact a dance routine from a Glee song that they wanted to do. So they did that. And then it was time to go back to the tent. So me and Marnie went to her cabin first, got her clothes and got her in her pajamas and put her waterproof jacket on over the top and then made our way to the tent. And then she tripped over a tent rope off of another person's tent. And she just like flat faced into the mud,

like her She was she was like tried to sort of put a brave face on it and then we got into the tent and I was like Listen, don't worry. I've got some pajamas. You can wear my pajamas and she just Burst into tears. I was like, it's I know it's overwhelming Just life yeah just life but then she got in my PJs and we both got into our, you know, on our single blot mattress and snuggled for the night. And it was really nice actually. And then the rest of the weekend was fine. The weather was great. But you did it babe. You did it. You're on the other side. God, I feel like no one has been to more parts of America than you this year. Like quite literally.

Actually, you'd be the perfect person to ask about the Kamala energy around the country because you've been all around. It feels re-energized. I feel like there are a lot of people that are traditionally voting Democrat that were feeling pretty un-enthused about Joe Biden being the candidate that now feel re-enthused about Kamala. There is some chatter of, you know, well, people didn't care about Kamala a month ago and now they do. And it's like, yeah, well, that's what like tens

of millions of pounds of donations will do to a campaign. Like that is the point of the money, I think. Yes, right. Well, I mean, it's fucking working. She's winning. I don't know if she's winning. I think she's ahead in like three. There was there was sort of three polls that came out at the end of last week. And she's coming out slightly ahead, which, you know, is good for Democrats. If that is how you vote. Well, let's talk about who else you've got on the side if you also vote Democrat.

Tim Walz. I hadn't heard of Tim Walz before she named him as her VP running mate. Wouldn't that be an interesting two people to be running America? Because she would, of course, be the first female, first black female. And I think also for years, it's always been, I think this is the first time in a really long time it hasn't been a Clinton or a Biden or Bush, apart from Obama. But there's been those kind of surnames in this, in this gang for a while. So it'd be total freshness, total newness in loads of different ways.

Well, look, okay, so a few weeks ago when Biden was the candidate for the Democrats, Kamala was his VP and Donald Trump's VP candidate was this guy called JD Vance. And he's quite a sort of interesting character that I didn't really know much about until he was announced for the VP pick. And I was talking to my godmother

about it. She said he's, you know, a Yale grad and he wrote a book that was a number one New York Times bestseller. Yes, the Hillbilly Elegy. And it seemed like he was, you know, a good pick, but a good pick for when Biden was the presidential candidate. I feel like now that Waltz is his opposition, maybe he's not such a good pick. And that's why Donald Trump is distancing himself from JD Vance somewhat. But I had started reading JD Vance's book, Hillbilly Elegy when I was on holiday

because I was interested in finding out what all the fuss was about about this guy. Yeah, I just I just watched the film. It's quite strange that he before he was even in this huge kind of spotlight place that there was already he'd already written his book. It was a huge hit. And then they made a film about it with bloody Glenn Close and like Amy Adams, directed by Ron Howard. I was like, why did anyone, this was quite a lot for this guy before any of this happened.

But I mean, it is an interesting story. But it's funny because I haven't finished the book, right? So yesterday I was like, oh, I'll cheat. I'll just go and watch the movie. And I realized I'd already seen the movie and I'm like three quarters of the way through the book and I hadn't made the connection between the movie that I'd watched

and the book that I've been reading. Yeah. Isn't that funny? Yeah. But I, it's quite funny reading the book and looking at the film side by side, because you can really see how Hollywood puts its spin on things. Yeah. There's a kind of a liberal slant on it. Whereas in retrospect, 10 years later, when you know who JD Vance is, you're like,

not such an empathetic character. Absolutely in his policies with Trump they oppose abortion, oppose same-sex marriage and oppose gun control so it's gonna be quite the race. Anyway thank you um god that felt like you were like a proper American news commentator. Thank you. Well done. Well done you. Well actually, because on my Instagram, I posted some pictures and there were a couple of them that had the book, the JD Vance book in it and I saw some comments from people going, how can you read that book? And it's like, I do find it quite fascinating that people would assume that because I'm reading a book that that means that I support that person's

policies. Not saying that I don't support that person's policies, but it's funny that like, you can read a book and just be curious about something. It doesn't mean that I'm pledging my allegiance to something. That takes us quite nicely into what I wanted to chat to you about. That's good. You're segueing without even fucking knowing it, Lily. You're incredible. Maybe I do know it. Maybe I do know it. Maybe you do know it. Maybe you're planting me a little seed. OK, let's take a break and when we come back, we'll talk about,

you know, who we consume art from. Welcome back, my lover. It really is nice to have you back. I felt a bit out at sea without you. I feel rooted again. I feel anchored. Do you? I actually do. So, terrible people and good art art so Roald Dahl's a

terrible person like an anti-semitic adulterer and this is but this is interesting right because Roald Dahl wrote stories about outsiders like Matilda the twits for God's sake even even James and the giant peach like those kind of group put those aunties, like the way they live, it's all about kind of like being an individual and living a certain way and also being celebrated. I will say that his, the baddies in his books always tend to be women. Oh god, Lily. Yep, you're right.

Except for Miss Honey. Yes, I'm just trying to go through everything. It's the villain of Baddie in George's Marvelous Medicine. Of course it's his evil grandmother. Oh dear. And then there's the Aunt Spiker and Aunt Sponger. Oh yeah, okay, so hated women. All right, so. Next one.

Woody Allen, now this is tricky because I love a Woody Allen film. Like I've just told my cousin, Silliman, his girlfriend's moving in with him into Mom and Dad's flat on the other side of the park. And he was like, I want to like get cozy with Lily. What should we watch? I was like, watch Woody Allen films.

They're brilliantly written. Love the art design. They look good. They feel good. They're smart and funny. And also ahead of their time, if you watch Annie Hall, like the way he broke the fourth wall,

they have like people talking, he talks to camera, other characters talk to camera, people come in and out of scenes, they're brought in and out, he's a genius. But he married his child, he married his daughter, adopted daughter, and I don't know how I make peace with that, and I don't think I do, I think I choose to ignore it.

And does that make me a terrible person? No, I don't think it does, I don't think it does I mean I don't it's funny it's in is it funny or interesting? It's hilarious. I always start my sentences with it's funny isn't it it's interesting isn't it because I digress. Don't worry. I hate myself. No don't take it there bring it bring it back up. But I do feel like, because you know, you can't just attribute Woody Allen's films to somebody else, like they are Woody Allen's films, right? You have to deal with the fact that he has done

some things that are questionable, and he makes art that many, many people enjoy. But also it's like, it doesn't take away from the genius of him, or does it, or should it? Because I'm not just like, this is a popular film, I think he's brilliant the way his mind works, but also that's the same mind that went, I think I'm marrying my daughter, yeah, I'll do that.

Because it's like Michael Jackson, how I make peace with Michael Jackson is, I just attribute it to Quincy. I'm just like, these are Quincy beats. But I think that you can't, it's sort of like a bit, becomes about self-censorship because you can't deny that like Thriller is a great song. And if you hear Thriller in a taxi on the way to a meeting, say. Personal experience.

You can't be like, oh no, shit, I don't't like this I don't like this because it's Michael Jackson you cut that's your censoring yourself and your enjoyment Of something I don't think that you can do that I think that you can acknowledge that somebody is bad But you can't tell your brain not to like something that you know. Yeah, you like. Yeah, it's funny because we're having it's funny It's funny. It's always interesting. I dig Yeah, it's funny because we're having, it's funny. It's funny, it's interesting, I digress. It's okay, Lil, we'll repeat ourselves. It's not, it's not okay, it's not okay.

I saw on Instagram a Tom Hanks quote this morning, saying the actor's comments come after publisher Puffin's recent announcement that books by the late Roald Dahl were being rewritten to edit out any offensive language. Decisions sparked debate with many hitting out against the move and calling it woke. He said, this is Tom Hanks, well, I'm of the opinion that we're all grown-ups here and we understand the time and the place and when these things were written, let me decide what I am offended by and not offended by. I would be against reading any book from any era that says

abridged due to modern sensitivities. And I love Tom Hanks. So there you go. That's a very good point. I love Tom Hanks. And that's a very good point. I feel like he just tidied this up for us. He just figured it out for us. Me, you and Tom Hanks. Which is kind of his role on planet Earth. Tom Hanks says it's okay. Who am I to judge? Tom, what do you think? It's okay, right? Okay, cool. Cool, thank you. Definitely, so trustworthy.

Yeah, I think it's something that I wanted to talk about because it keeps coming up and really what keeps coming up is, if there's an artist from a certain time, they've usually done some pretty fucked up shit. Yeah, but then we've also got artists from current time. Like, I'm sorry, but like, Kanye West has said some absolutely horrendous things

in recent past, but I love his music. I'm sorry, I just do. I just think he's a fucking genius. And you know, quite often the artists see the world in a pretty like weird and fucked up way. And that's what makes them great artists, you know? like it's it's just the way that the cookie crumbles sometimes. The way the cookie crumbles. And to be clear, I do not condone any of Kanye West's anti-Semitic statements and rhetoric.

That's my my thoughts on the matter. Yeah, I think I think I think I do know what to do now, but that was more from Tom Also, I think it was Woody Allen that said like well if there was a culture to be cancelled from this one would be it because we do live in a sort of culture of mediocrity, sorry true Nowadays it feels like the people that are you know, the big stars of the world are fucking boring as fuck. Yeah, my mum says about certain things. She says we will not be dictated to by their mediocrity. And I'm like, okay, got you. Got you. I don't like who cares what vanilla arseholes are

telling us to do like, please. But obviously there is a line. If I was thinking myself as a creative person in this world, like have I done fucked up things um No, the only thing the only thing Come for me is do you remember I had that time where I used to suck people's fingers What you did No, I never happened. No, I saying that she has never sucked my fingers. No, no, no, it would always be boys I fancied. And I realized the people that I've done it to are really quite famous.

Okay. I think I'm going to say their names today. When did you used to sing for sing-a-fuck? It's like boys that I was kiss- this is so- I can't believe I'm talking about this but fuck it. Boys that I was kissing, I would then suck their fingers. I can't believe I'm talking about this but fuck it it boys I was kissing I would then stop their fingers I don't do it anymore something in my mid-20s and I saw I don't remember this I saw Dominic Cooper's fingers back to back please stop this now please stop it well your head I

don't do this to yourself no No, because I have witnesses. I went on a date. It wasn't even a date. It was like a group hang. And then I ended up kissing him and then I stopped just fingers. Mattie Healy. He was a fixer. Yeah.

So that's the only kind of creepy weird thing I've done in my past, I think. I don't know if you're going to get cancelled for that. But if you do, thanks guys. This has been great Yeah, we've had a good time we've had a good run no, it really is time to shut up now This is anything else you want to say to me? No, I will see you on Monday for education listen bitch Hmm. We'll talk about that on the show. You're not pleased with it.

Not pleased with her husband's choice at all. To be fair, he's not a Miss Me avid listener. So how the fuck would he know that it was quite similar to our last one? The responsibility lies with you and with Dino, our production team. Somebody at that point should have said, thank you David for that suggestion, but it is very close to what we did last week. So can we choose something else? I know but I was too scared I was too scared. You were starstruck. Oh fuck off! I'm too fuck off. Yeah maybe a little bit. Husband maybe a bit husbandstruck. Mmm, sure. Alright, see you then babe! We'll make it work, we always do. Bye!

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