Miss Me? - Exodus

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver discuss the tube strikes, state schools vs private schools, and Richard Osman’s success This episode contains very strong language and adult themes. Credits: Producer: Natalie Jamieson Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Assistant Producer: Caillin McDaid Production Coordinator: Rose Wilcox Executive Producer: Dino Sofos Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. This episode of Miss Me contains some very strong language and some other things. Welcome to Miss Me, the old team, the old team back together, the original lineup, original gangsters. Okay. How are you? What's been going on in the world of Makite Olivier?

Well, is this my new flat? I don't think so. No. I don't think so. It is not. Yes, we did think that we were going to be seeing the interiors of your new place.

What happened? Well, you text me at the weekend going, she's off because you were going back to New York and I text you, she's in. Because I was like first day in my new flat. And I was like, This is great.

Like, new chapter. And it was the eclipse at the weekend. Blood, moon, lunar eclipse, deep shit. And then reality set in and my hub for my internet didn't arrive on time. Oh. So then I, because this place is so nice. My new flat is so nice. Guess what?

From my balcony, I can see you. My house? I can see your house. Shut the front door. Phoebe was like, nah, that's Lily. And I was like, oh, shit. Oh, my God, we can have binocular each other. They are going to get you some massively really strong binoculars.

It would have to be pretty strong, but I know where you live and I can see you. And, yeah, it feels like, I was like, yeah, we're just going to, like, run London from each side of London. I like this. But then we were all really hopeful that this hub thing would turn up. It didn't. So then I went to meet my new neighbor. And obviously, I'm really trying to not, like, piss off anyone in the vlog. Can I want them all to like me?

First thing I have to do is like, can I use your internet? I will say in the grand scheme of things, though, just the hub not turning up is not a big deal. You're not in London with the Tube Strike, actually, mate. So you don't know. No, but you know what? Our friend Tan, for instance, he had a baby two weeks ago. Did he have his baby?

He had a baby, took the baby home to their lovely flat that they've been getting ready for the past six months and then there was a fire upstairs and the whole building was evacuated and he thought everything was going to be okay and they were just going to be able to return and then it turns out their whole flat got completely flooded all of the stuff they'd been like, you know,

they've been nesting for like six months preparing for this baby. So count your blessings. It's just a cub situation. You put me in my place. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I have done six months on my mum's kids. couch, so...

Spaned some roundabouts. No, I know, but it's not ideal bringing a new human being into the world and then basically being like, right, I need to get an Airbnb. Oh my God, poor Tanny. I can't believe he's a dad. I know.

You know how neurotic he is and how, like, perfect everything has to be and, you know, he's been sending me pictures of, like, the setup for, like, months. Oh, stop. And just so for it all to have, like, yeah, I know. It felt so bad for him.

At least everyone's safe. I'll text him. Tan is our friend who actually is responsible with our photographer friend Will for our miss-meat artwork. Yes. That banging, that banging picture is because of Tan. And the tune. Tan helped us do that tune.

That's true. Credit where credits do you? Absolutely. Okay, I won't talk about the Juvers track anymore then. No, I just thought quickly. Because it's really interesting. They're like, I was really right in The Guardian. But there's a four-day tube strike

and it's every tube line apart from the Lizzie. Bless the Lizzie. That's good, isn't it? Keeping the whole of London on its sturdy, modern shoulders. I can't imagine how back the Lizzie is this week. But of course, then there's this

leads into the roads being congested because everyone's driving. So London's just a bit of a mad one this week. It's just a bit of a mad one. But everyone was like, oh, there's going to be a lot of grumpy Londoners. Yes, strikes are, you know, inconvenient for those that are using those services, but also useful for the people that are trying to get paid a fair wage.

Yes, it affects everyone on both sides, obviously. TFL's made a pay offer of 3.4%, which it urged the union to put to its members in a fresh ballot, but it said it can't cut their hours to less than 35 hours a week. So let's just hope that they get what they need because I can't imagine how hard our tube workers work and our train workers work to keep this city ticking. And then when they strike, we realize how much we need them

and how much they're at the backbone of the way this city flows. So I think, I know everyone's getting grumpy and everyone's having a hard week with the tube strike, but really think about why these people felt the need to strike. It's like in the pandemic, do you remember when, well, you wouldn't know so much because you're not a parent,

but like suddenly having to have your kids at home all day, you were like, why are teachers not being paid more than anyone on planet Earth? So you would never have homeschooled the girls? Uh, I did homeschool the girls for a little bit. It was, um, hell. Teachers, nurses, Amazon delivery drivers are like so grossly undervalued and I feel like you really saw it in the pandemic. It was like, hang on a second, these people really do being men and it's like these people keep the country

running. Yeah man but when it comes to schooling if you weren't forced to homeschool the girls would you have ever thought of that as a root of their schooling? Absolutely not. If I was like I have no GCSEs

what would put me in? Why would I be like yeah I'm the right person to teach these children how to do things? No I mean if I was like an academic then yeah, maybe. But it depends what you value your kids learning. Because if you felt that they had to learn maths, then yes, you might have to be an academic and a mathematician.

But if you wanted to just teach them the school of life, I read this really interesting article the other day in The Times about this family that just went off grid. It's awful. The mum died actually a few years after they did it. But they've made a film about it. It's a documentary about this family. And they went and lived in Norway in the forest

and just, you know, hunted. and read books and swam and looked at nature and just decided to teach their kids, not to homeschool them, to teach them a different way of learning about the world. You could do that. You could travel. You love traveling with the girls.

Good for them. I mean, just not for me. I'm a little bit more conventional. It is back to school time. And so I've been talking to quite a lot of my friends with kids about schooling and everyone seems very happy that their kids are going back to school.

I think it's been quite a long summer. I know it's so funny, isn't it? In the lead up to summer, everyone's like, oh, gosh, just can't wait for school to her and her to be a holiday. And then it's like, get them out. I feel, my mom was like,

I didn't really mind it. I was like, that's because you did fuck all. It's not like you, like, put on activities. It was like, to your nans or go to Latimer for the day and I'll see you around 8 o'clock. I think it's because parents feel like such a dedication to sort of like,

entertaining their kids. Our parents didn't entertain us. We had to entertain ourselves all summer long. Ethel, my oldest daughter, has transitioned from a smaller school to a bigger school this term. I know. And I got a text from her. She used to finish school at like 3 o'clock. And now she said, she texted me at like 5 o'clock yesterday.

She was like, I'm out. And then she texted me, no! Oh, I have another meeting. They just told me. She's livid. She's like, why is my day ending so late now? She's so tired. Why is it ending so late?

Why does school, secondary school? Because she's just gone into, like, older school. Yeah, it's like their hours are different. I swear I still finished at 3.30. I mean, I wouldn't know, I mean, I wouldn't know about the regularities of schools considering I went to so many. And today I'd like to talk about that. Lily, I'd like to talk about the fact that you and I are quite a rare species of human being

that have been to both state school and private school, which I really don't think many people have had that experience. I've been asking some people, actually, and I think it's actually quite unique. There was one school that we both went to that I don't know whether, did we pay? Do you remember Bales College? No, I didn't go there. You weren't there. No, you went there. That's the one that you turned up at

when I walked into class and you were there It's in Kensal Rise, that one on Harrow Road No, no, that's not the one that I turned up to The one that I remember the classroom I know that you're lying I know what you're confused with It's the one that was near Hyde Park Oh, in Queensway

You came to the Queensway one Thank you, don't gaslight me, bitch I know what I'm talking about You're so right Because I was, I drove past Bail's College and I went, what the fuck was Liddy doing joining that one? Because that is a weird school.

It's a crammer college. Oh, so you came to the Queensway one. Crazy bitch. I love the conviction that you have of me walking into Bale's College. I'm like, no. Let me just say the day that this happened. It was a very strange day

where I walked into school. Cameron was paying for me to go to this school. so this was a private school and it was a crammer college and I was going because I'd missed it was pre-pandemic and you were actually socially distancing

from me at a time I was like I think I would you've done we weren't really like you were pissed I was basically stalking you you were a bit to be completely honest

I don't know I hadn't taught you for a few weeks or something I don't know what went out and then I got into class and they were like, this is our new student Lily. She's like, hi! No, I know what happened.

You were hanging out with Jennifer. Let's not beat around the bush. Oh, okay. So I was in my, I'm cooler the new face. You were a bit busy. I was a bit busy. You were a bit busy for me. But I wasn't stalking you.

It was just that I was living, I think I was living at Danny and Judy. So it was like, and I'd been thrown out of the previous crammer that I was in. And so I got, that it was like, it was. Was that MPW? Yeah. And that was like,

the next on the list. You could have gone to Holland Park and stalked Phoebe. I mean, I did sometimes go to Holland Park, not as an official student, but sometimes I'd just turn up there and be like, hi. Did you last very long? Because I left that school because I got Popwell. That's the one right I walked out of the GCSEs,

and I was like, I got a jab. How long did you stay? Did you do your GCSEs there? I haven't got any GCSEs. Oh, yes, right, okay. You have none, I have two. God, what a fucking pair of reprimates. Anyway, as someone that's been to both,

Because you also went to lots of private boarding schools, which are the ones that I yearn to go to. Two. I went to two private boarding schools. And both for not very long. I went to Millfield Preparatory School, Edgar Lee Hall for one year. And then I went to Bidale's School in Hampshire for a year and a half, I think. An absolute classic, Bidale's.

Very popular school. I always wanted to go. And I think when we're talking about private school versus state school, I was talking about it with Namer and had a really tricky journey in school, like quite a lot of people in our family did. And what she said to me yesterday, which I thought was really great, she said the thing is it's not really about private school versus state school. I was just trying to find the best bespoke experience in education for my son.

So I think it's a really, it's probably a really deep thing figuring out how you want your child's education to look, especially after you and I have had such a dodgy time. Yeah, I mean, if you have the luxury of choice, most people are, you know, you have to just deal with whatever, you know, state school's in your catchment area, don't you? When I lived in London, my kids went to state school and had an excellent experience. They went to the same state school that you did, Fox. Yeah, man, best.

And then when we moved to America, they went to state school here as well for the first couple of years and then transitioned into a private school for middle school. Did they? What was that transition like for them? I mean, to be honest, like in terms of the education, not much. I would say they had more fun and better social experiences at state school. Just because everyone's on the same level, you know, whereas in private school, it's a little more complex, you know. Well, really, isn't everyone just on the same level? It's just a different level called rich or has more money?

Well, first of all, there's like a bunch of kids that are there on Scotland. Scholarships. Second of all, there's a bunch of kids that are middle class. Then there's the really wealthy. And then there's the super fucking wealthy. So no, an answer to your question, it's not, you know, and in the state schools, it tends to be a little bit more even on an even keel. My kids both said when they went to private that they felt that everyone was spoiled. Right. Because I remember you were badly bullied at the private school and it felt like that was by girls that had been very wealthy their whole lives. Yeah, and listen, I come from a very privileged background,

but it's a little bit... It's a little bit more complex. It's a little bit complex and bohemian and a bit rough around the edges, you know? Mm-hmm. You know, I just remember, like, when I went to be there, I got picked up once on the weekend and people are literally being picked up

in Rolls, Royces, and helicopters, and my dad sort of rolling up with, like, hippie Dave and a VW camper van, with flowers painted on the side. And I'd be like, cool. Oh my God. Yes, Dad. That's me.

That's my right. See you later. I'll see you later. Oh, no, we've broken down. Yeah. Yeah, not to mention like in the papers being embarrassing. So it's a very different experience for you. Anyway, should we talk about something else other than education?

Because I feel like people might be a bit bored. Sorry, but it's back to school time. That's true. I thought it was really a valid time to talk about it. new endeavors, new chapters. Lily Allen. Don't you have a new chapter coming up? Is that my cue?

That's your cue. That's the only way I can get from school to Lily's new chapter. Well, I do have some news to share with everybody. Yeah. Listen bitch on Monday will be my last miss meet for a while because I am going to be stepping away from the podcast to do some other things.

But it's not goodbye forever. it's just a bye for now while I go and do some new stuff for a little bit. Okay? It's rather exciting. Yeah, I just have to focus on some other stuff for a little bit.

And I'm very grateful for the experience. I've had so much fun and I really, really enjoyed our live shows especially at the beginning of the year. Did you? God, I thought that was, you would not have thought

that that would be the bit that you really enjoy. We were not thinking. No, I just enjoyed the progression. I enjoyed it like something, you know, it having started from, you know, me and you with a couple of, you know, cameras in our spare rooms in our house to being at the Hackney Empire for two nights in a row sold out, you know, it was just, it's just, I enjoy, I enjoy the growth and I enjoy the journey, you know, and I, I love it here.

And I'm not leaving because I'm upset about anything. It's quite the opposite. it. I just, I need a little, I'm doing some things which need more of my time and the time, you know, it takes a lot of work putting the time and effort into this show. You know, it's not just the recording that we think about and have meetings during the week about what we're going to talk about. And it's, it's a big commitment in order to keep it good. And I just don't think that I will be able to give it 100% with the other stuff that's going on in my life at the moment. Absolutely. And I think that change is so fucking important in life. I, like,

many people resist it constantly and was really scared when I when I when I when you told me that you were doing this but I feel very different now I feel really proud of us I really am not going to cry because I it's not it's not a sad day I just I can't believe that we had a silly little idea and and it turned into what it's turned into like look what we fucking did lily actually and I don't just mean like the live shows I just mean the things people say to me on the street about how Miss Me, like, lives in their life. Yeah.

And I never thought me and you chatting shit to each other would mean anything to anyone, to be completely honest. I know, and I've known for a few weeks that this is going to be the case, and I have to say, like, when I was doing Hedda and Bath and people were caught to me at stage from me, they're like, I love the podcast, and I'm like, good, really glad.

Listen, every week, I'm obsessed. I was like, oh! No. Lily, you should have seen Carnival. Carnival, I was like, is this like sponsored by Miss Me? Like, fucking hell. There is so much love in the world for it. And I'm very, very proud of us.

And also, I would like to stress that I'm not, I'm not closing the door on Miss Meep forever. I just, I just need to focus on some other stuff for a little bit. Yes, babes. You know, and I'll come back and visit you. I'll come back and say hi. Drop in now and then. Yeah, man.

You know what? Do you know what I found the other day? I found in my notes when we were in Kenya and I was like, I think I was annoyed about something that I saw like someone doing. You were like, don't worry, we're going to blow everyone out the fucking war with our podcast.

And I was like, what do you think? I'm not sure. What if no one gives a fuck? And I looked at the notes and it was like, call me back, please. Or like all the other names we were going to call it. God, there were some really shit ones. What did I want to call it?

I wanted to call it roots, didn't I? And you were like, no, Makita. Absolutely not I think there was one point where it was like Root's Journey or some shit and then there were all the things that we were going to talk about

we've pretty much covered a lot of them you've got to like live a life to tell stories and I think you need to go do some living come back and talk all about it yes and I just need a little bit of just a little bit of quiet reflection time

be really nice to not be in the tabloids every week every day being told what piece of shit you are there is that there is that totally get it but Miss me

will continue it will go from straight to straight yeah Mickey is actually going to be joined by Gemma Collins

now that's right we thought who's the right person it's Gemma Collins and Ross Kemp on rotation

are Yes. When it comes to Miss Me and its future, I like to think of Miss Me as a sort of travelling school. Because if I'm really honest, there is stuff that I have learnt doing a year, a year, and how long we've fucking done, doing Miss Me with you? I've learnt so much. There was a lot of stuff that I was like nervous to talk about,

nervous thought that I wasn't smart enough to talk about. and felt really like, I don't know, I feel like it's given me a lot of freedom of thought. And I do, when we've had other people come on to do it, I really feel like they've been like someone else that's taught me a lot. And then in turn, we're teaching the country or learning about things with the country together and reveal themselves and tell their stories.

And I think we all learn from other people's stories. That's true. So I'm very proud and I really would like us to be really proud of each other because our silly little idea turned into something a lot bigger than that. We should be really fucking proud of that, Lil. I am. I'm very proud. And I'm very proud of you.

And I would say that I'll miss you, but I'm still going to talk to you every day. I'll call you later. I did think that. So I was like, it would be weird not talking to Lily for ages. And I was like, no, wait a minute. We will. Our FaceTime just won't be recorded and just sent to the world. Like the old days

I think we'll be fun Like the old days That's the other thing Our friendship's not ending Just our section of Miss Me So we're gonna have a little cry now And hold each other close And we'll go to a break

We will see you after the break This is Miss Me Lily Allen Why don't you why don't you welcome us back seeing as you're fucking off welcome back everybody to the second half

of Miss Me's Meaty Drop Oh yeah Meaty Drop I always forget this episode has a name Lily named it you know With her big brain And her clever words

Do you know what you might need to do I might need you to send over a few episode titles every now and then Because those aren't really miss Because you're very good at naming the episodes. I'm down. You can do that anytime. You're down. And in downtown New York, hence the siren. Okay, just before anyone goes, where the hell is she? I'm so fucking tired, by the way. I'll just put it out there. The jet lag is strong. It's good that we're doing

your last one for a bit in New York. That is how it started. It's how it started. Right. What was I going to see? Oh yes. In the world of life pivots and deep, deep change. we would all be do good to take a little look at the incredible ascent and career pivots of the man that is called Richard Osmond. What a guy. What a fucking genius. I've always loved this man.

We're talking about him because the Thursday Murder Club came out on Netflix and I watched it with my nan and I don't think I've enjoyed anything quite as much in quite a while. Oh, I found it literally unwatchable. but okay. Oh, I'll miss you. I'll miss this tete-a-tete. No, I mean, I just, not that I don't think that it's bad.

I don't think it was badly made. I just think it's like not really a genre that I can get behind. And I find that sort of like, just like hyper English, like tweed, like just too much, just too much. Don't you fucking dare, because you know this is my jam and it's where I live. I know it is. I know it's like you're a cozy place and it just makes me want to puk a little bit. I wouldn't call it cozy crime though and neither would Richard actually read some interviews with him and he was like, it's actually not cozy crime and I agree with him.

Tell me why it makes you want to be sick of it. I don't know. It's just that, I mean, to be honest. You'd move to the countryside and lived a rather bucolic life and loved it. You lived this shit. Yeah, I don't know. I just, to be honest, I only made it like half an hour in. I was just, it's just a little bit like, you know,

Dame Helen Mirren, Ben Kingsley, Pierce Brons. It was just a bit like in your fucking face of like... A bit on the nose for you. A little bit on the nose, yeah. Got it. She needs a bit, yeah, okay, I get it. Do you know what I mean? It's a little bit like Paddington Bear or something.

It's just like too, like, we edit. It's like, you know, sort of Curtis-esque, like just, very like just aren't we great in English I die for this shit I know you do maybe it's because I'm half black maybe it is

maybe it's my yearning to be middle class white person it might be it might be growing up in Notting Hill right next door to Richard Curtis land yeah I can get I can totally see that I can totally see that

and being on the poor side and going to school with a lot of people with more money than me yeah it might it might be that but i also um i just love england i know just and i love a celebration of i like i liked the architecture of the old people's home this is the thursday murder club right and so it's a a group of uh old ladies and gentlemen but what i love and they serve uh cold crimes because they're bored because they're fucking bored and what i liked was They use their skills that were honed in their youth and apply it to these cold cases.

And I thought, yeah, truth say, what if you were, all these things, which you have been? I've never been a detective, babe. No, but you could be. You've been an actor and written a book and been a singer, all those things. And then suddenly... Let's be honest.

I would love to be a detective. Yeah, you would love to be a detective. And then suddenly you're 70, and the world says, no every school you've ever honed is no longer applicable to anything and I think my nan like my nan was a great great primary school teacher she really was and she was a primary school teacher for like 45 years and when she retired she was bored as anything and I see her now bored as anything and she applies all that intelligence to her crosswords and her Suduco but the other day she said to me I might try and volunteer at the local school and I was like oh nanny I don't

you. Maybe you should just get her a smartphone on TikTok and Instagram. She doesn't be bored long. Fuck, I'm not doing that to her. Well, I wonder what your granny's algorithm would serve her up. Well, it would be a lot of Richard Osmond. She watches a lot of House of Games. So let's just talk about Richard Osmond's assent,

because motherfucker goes from daytime TV to Spielberg Netflix shit. This is not a well-traversed trajectory, okay? Not everyone gets this journey. And he starts in Endemore. He's like the creative director of Endemore. He's a huge TV production company in this country. And he pitches pointless to them in 2009, which, P.S. I still don't quite understand.

What is it about it that you don't understand? It's the most pointless answer, right? So has it got to be the thing that people are least likely to know? Because it doesn't feel like that when you watch it. When you watch it, it's like, that's not the least likely answer. It's like the least obvious. Right. It just, it doesn't feel that simple.

And I did pointless with my mom five years ago. How else did you do? Let's say, let's just say we were out first round and we lost to Claire from steps. Okay. That's not great, is it? And after that, I was like, mum, we're never doing any celebrity thing again and we've never done anything, apart from Goggle Box. What the fuck are you talking about? You do you do shit all the time together.

Not since that. Not since that. We do like work together. We don't do any like celebrity blah blah, blah. Celebrity blah, blah, apart from Gogglebox. Oh, what you mean like celebrity point? Okay, so you mean you're like, you wouldn't go on like, I'm a celebrity, get me out of here as a mother and a daughter.

That's the old days, Lil. That's the old days. Now it's like. Celebrity Master Chef. Exactly. Hang on. You did, you did Great British Break Off. yes but yes thank you you you did you did win I did win I did win yeah I did

anyway back to Richard Oswald um right so then he goes yes so then he so then he pitches pointless right which has been on since 2009 every day the way I don't know how fucking Alexander Armstrong does this shit he does it every day of the week but he told my mom when she because Richard Osmond left pointless and then different people okay so maybe we do still do stuff because my mom stepped in for him

as the like celebrity just lies basically don't do bullshit I said no to celebrity shark infested waters last year okay congratulations congrats that's how bad it gets out here

people don't understand people don't know how dangerous that is out here as a broadcaster which is why I'm continuing would miss me without Lily while I go and do Celebrity Shark a festival that's why I'm concentrating whoops, the secret's out

we know Lily's pivot anyway so mum stepped in for Richard Osman and said to Alexander Armstrong how do you still do this and he said I have four kids at Eton oh wow okay hang on can I just ask you if you got offered strictly would you do it? Absolutely not

we've talked about that already I thought I wanted to I did get off for it. They went in a different direction. I was relieved and now I'm so happy I didn't do it. It's not me. The people that have done it that I know and stuff, fucking excellent, but it's just not for me. Just because something has the word celebrity on it does not mean it's for you. Doesn't mean you should do it. But anyway, let's just get back to Richard Osman because we could learn from him and his career pivots. So then he leaves pointless, but then he hosts shows like child genius and a bit of the one show, standard. But then he comes up with another show and

idea called House of Games. Have you ever watched House of Games? No. Okay, it's on like every day and my noun loves it so I see it a lot. But it's basically like a pub quiz on TV, like general knowledge, pub quiz. And it's very clever because he does it. It's like smart. And I always said this. I was like, there should be more quizzes on TV that are about getting it right.

A lot of quizzes on TV are a vehicle for comedy. Right. Like the great big fat quiz of the year and stuff. there's a university challenge and only connect but they can be quite intimidating this is perfect you would love it Lily it's like buzz but not just music okay great I'm in

and it's like fastest finger on buzzer but let's so he's done that then he goes off and he does his novel he does his sorry I just feel like we're dragging this out a little bit speed it speeding me up in the original career assistant

I was gonna I was gonna fill the whole second half with this but I hear you let's move on yes he writes his novel It sells 700,000 copies in four months. It beats Obama for sales. I've heard the sort of phrase being bounded around that like he's literally keeping sort of British literary

like publishing in business. It's like there's usually one or two authors a year that sort of keep it all going and he's one of them. Unbelievable. What impact, what power. Because he had the courage to fucking pivot. Well, I don't even know if it was an intentional Pivot.

I think he's just one of those people that's just got such an active brain and he probably doesn't want to like sit around being idle so he's just like, right, okay, he probably was doing pointless and was like, you know, in between takes. He's like, I do find myself with 45 minutes spare every so often.

Maybe I'll just write a novel and so he did. I'm just making it up by the way. I'm not saying that this happened. But in this game, and this is not accustomed to anyone because I get it, there's a lot of things, there's a lot of jobs that even if you're not feeling it anymore, you would just sit and still do because it's a paycheck

and its stability in our quite treacherous game of broadcasting, whatever, being in our industry. Yeah. But anyway, you're right. He is like, you can tell. He's got a fantastical brain

and he wanted to get it out. But just, I'm just saying, good for him for writing it down because look at what he did. And then Spielberg calls and then Netflix are there. Like, you must just be like, what?

And he does a great podcast as well called the rest of the entertainment. You know, they sold out Royal Albert Hall. I did not know that. For Christmas. They did a Christmas special for a Label Hall. I really enjoy that podcast.

So go Richard Osmond and thank you for teaching us to be brave. Last thing about him, his love story was also on House of Games. He married a wonderful actress, lovely woman,

called Ingrid Oliver, not my sister. Asha, I'm going to play this gay, I'm going to ask you the question. He said this, it's really sweet. He said, unlike most couples,

I do have a record of the first thing I ever said to my soulmate. And I'm going to ask you, Lily. Let's see if you could have got in Richard Osmond's. If he could have got in your pants. I'm looking for two rhyming answers, a musical instrument filled with rice, played by shaking...

Oh, she's in. And the capital of Venezuela. Caracas. And... Oh, Maracas and Caracas. Maracas and Caracas. That's right. You'd love House of Games.

Maracas and Caracas. Crackus. What a great way for a love story to begin. I'm really happy for him because he said he was very lonely and he'd been lonely for a while. I know he's married and they're really happy. He'd already had a marriage before and two kids, but I'd like Richard Osmond's life, is what I'm saying today. McKee-Tee, you're obsessed with Richard Osmond?

Yeah, I am. Okay. It's been real and it's been fun and I will see you on Monday for ListenBitch where people are going to ask us anything. Ask us anything? Oh, God. Oh, God. Isn't that exciting?

Sort of. Okay. There's a reason I started, I started Listen Bitch with a theme, but okay. I know there was, and it was because I came up with the idea of there being a theme. Anyway. No, you didn't.

Absolutely, that was me. That was me. Okay. That was, you named it. You named Listen bitch. You named Miss me. I came up with the theme, and I have the notes to prove it.

Okay, Lily, it's been great. No, that doesn't mean me, just because you have the notes to prove it does not mean anything. which means you happen to be the one that wrote it down. It was a conversation that me and Dino had in Kenya and he was like, we've actually got to do two episodes. So should we do like a question and answer? I said, yeah, but let's do a theme.

Okay, you'd gone to bed that night in Kenya. So don't start with me. No, no, no. I remember it differently. So it's giving Bales College right now. It's giving Bales College. I feel like one has a rewritten history. But Bail's College, Dino wasn't there.

Oh, dear. There was also a group conversation. Right, interesting. Do you know what it was? That would have been involved with me. Do you know what it was, guys? It was a little thing we like to call teamwork. Collaboration.

So well done us. Collaboration. Love you. See you Monday. Okay. Bye. Bye. Love you all.

Love you all. Bye, boy. Thank you for all the memories and the fun and I'll see you soon. Well, I'll see you Monday. See you Monday. Thanks for listening to me. Miss me with Lily Allen and Mikita Oliver. This is a Persephonicah production for BBC Sounds.

Hello, I'm Maisie Adam. And I am Susie Ruffle. And together we host the Women's Football podcast, Big Kick Energy. The award-winning. Oh, yes, award-winning. Yes, very much so. And we're your go-to, gals, for everything women's football-related ahead of this summer's Euro.

And beyond. Oh, yes, and beyond. Yes, we intend. to stay. We'll be covering everything from the players to the games to how the tournament works. To which team would be the most fun to go on a hindo with? Wales, obviously. Oh, it's obviously Wales.

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