Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! Acceptable in the 90s

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver answer your questions about The 90s.Next week, we want to hear your questions about CONTRACEPTION. Please send us a voice note on WhatsApp: 08000 30 40 90. Or, if you lik...e, send us an email: missme@bbc.co.uk.This episode contains very strong language and adult themes.Credits:Producer: Flossie Barratt Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Assistant Producer: Caillin McDaid Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

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Starting point is 00:00:00 BBC Sounds music radio podcast. This week's episode of Listen Bitch contains some very strong language and some adult themes. All the people, so many people, they are girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, boys and girls, Blur themed, listen bitch. I said maybe, I don't really wanna meow. I wanna live like common people. I wanna do whatever common people do. Thank you. Okay, can I say, those all three bands,
Starting point is 00:00:58 and they're all blokes, and they're all in their late 50s now, and they're all still looking absolutely fantastic. One in particular. What about, oh yeah, uh-uh. They're not around anymore. We're in trouble something's going on and it's burst my bubble. Okay Lily you've got the whole episode to sing your little heart out. Okay well you asked me to intro you what else do you want me to do? I could do like reenact some like Sharon and Grant from EastEnders. That would be great. Great idea. No, I'm not doing that. I was thinking more like,
Starting point is 00:01:29 too blind to see it, too blind to see what you are doing. God, if I played that tune the other day when he was training, I was like, this is such a tune. No man in the world. Don't wait for me because I am leaving. world don't wait for me because i am leaving you okay i think we're ready because my sweetness okay is your weakness and you love me takes me high The theme is the 90s. Obviously. It's the 90s. In case you hadn't guessed. Maybe people sing to us.
Starting point is 00:02:12 No, first question. Hi, Meketa. Hi, Lily. This is Sian calling from the northeast of England. I'm currently sitting in my studio in Newcastle. The theme, the 90s, love this. I was born in 1982. Just wanted to say that, do you agree with
Starting point is 00:02:35 that the 90s was probably the last time or the last era that had a real true identity in everything. In fashion, in music, in like, I just felt like towards the end of the 90s going into the noughties that that's where it sort of ended. From there onwards, there wasn't much more identity. I'd just love to hear your thoughts. But love the podcast, love what you do. keep it up, you guys are the best. Bye. Preach, I hear you. I hear what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Yes. There was definitely a celebration of individuality, a celebration of the individual. I mean, come on. I mean, we do have to rep for the Nauti, we had the Maccabees, Larrick and Lo. You would save that for the Nautis, listen bitch. Okay, okay, I will. I know it was very white, the 90s. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:42 You know? I hope that's not what she's saying. I don't think so. What are you saying, Lil? What do you mean? What do I mean? I don't, I mean... What, Telly? Telly... I mean, the 90s, I guess. What is the identity? It's like Britpop, right? Partying and freedom. Not just partying, but they're...
Starting point is 00:04:06 We weren't partying in the 90s. No. Well, we were at the end, actually. 1998, I was. Got in there. That was when I popped my party cherry. No, I think it's really important for us to remember, yeah, we were born 84 and 85, respectively. So 90s, we were still sort of 12, 13, 14, 15, or even 9, 10, 11. But I remember being around, you know, surrounded in a world that was colorful and exciting
Starting point is 00:04:32 and very much with a party at the back of it. It felt like the whole country was partying. The YBAs, we had Tony Blair coming in. Yeah, I watched this great documentary the other day about Tracy Yemen. It was like an old imagine. I've started watching old imagines on TV. You know that Alan Yentov series. Imagine you're watching old imagines, dude. Imagine I'm just there, yeah, watching old imagines. And I realized that it's not just the imagines I like.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It's not just the documentary. I love when you watch them on YouTube, they have a little bit of like the beginning bit where it goes, now on BBC Two, it's da da da, and you know that it's like 1997, and suddenly it feels like you're watching TV at that time and I was real, don't you remember Friday night, Channel 4?
Starting point is 00:05:15 Oh my God, terrestrial TV, bro, don't even. I mean, I loved it, except when my mum was still with my dad and we had one TV in our little flat in Bloomsbury and on a Sunday would be um go all out see ya and then little house on the prairie and the Walton's yeah on Channel 4 on a Sun on a Sunday and my dad we only had one toilet in my house in our flat and my dad would just sit in there with the Sunday papers all day. And I'd just be like,
Starting point is 00:05:46 I think I even had to like maybe pee in the bath because I couldn't go in the toilet because dad was just in there using all the lural and just reading the papers. All do men and their shitting as a whole own, listen bitch. Now reading the papers, probably having one. Stop it, Godfrey takes novels into the lural. I'm like, you're so disgusting. You, Garfield takes novels into the loo. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:06:05 you're so disgusting. You just want to sit there in your own smell. They're not reading novels in there. Please. So what? Anyway, this is actually another subject. We know what they're doing! Pooing and sitting in their own smell. Pooing and wanking. They're not wanking. No one has a wank after a poo or pre a poo. It might, I don't know, because I'm not, I'm not male, but maybe of, you know, coming might trigger a poo for them.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Let's get back to the 90s. This is a problem that still exists now. Back to the 90s. Yes, of course, darling, individualism. What do you say? Identity. I suppose, yeah, I suppose because things weren't so kind of polarized in the same way. It was like, you could kind of get on with your own individualistic shit and not feel like people were watching and you were doing the wrong thing
Starting point is 00:06:55 and not following the right crowd. So cool moves got made. Yeah. Good on you 90s. Let's have another question. Let's really get into this era. Let's pretend it's 1993 and we're on talk radio. It's pre-trolls, isn't it? It's pre-trolls. That's what the 90s was. Pre-trolling.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Oh, right. Yes, those trolls. Because I was like, those little old trolls were huge. Those were 90s. Very 90s. Were Tamagotchis 90s? Can I get a check on that? Can I get a check on that please? Were Tamagotchis the 90s? I'd say 99. Let's guess. 99. 97. 96. Oh! Probably took them a year to trend though, you know what I'm saying? So I was right basically. Yeah, I was talking about, yeah, you were talking about when they blew up. Let's have
Starting point is 00:07:46 another bloody question about 1990s, the 1990s. Hi guys, this is Flora from Broadstairs. My question to you about the 90s is, and there's so many questions about the 90s, but I have two questions. Firstly, what was your favourite memorabilia from the 90s? I think mine was my brother had an inflatable armchair in his room and I thought it was so cool. I only got an inflatable cushion. He also had a lava lamp, which is also iconic. I feel like everything was a lot cooler in the 90s. Secondly, do you think that times were happier in the 90s? Do you think people were happier? Do you think everyone was in that stage of having a party every day and, you know, a
Starting point is 00:08:34 little bit stress free? It feels like there was a lot more opportunity. I mean, I was very young at that time, but I do look back on it fondly. Anyway, tell me your favourite memorabilia and also if you think we were happier in the 90s. Bye. There was definitely some good times I had in the 90s, but I think both my mom's big major relationships ended in probably 1990 and again in 96 or 97. So she was having quite a hard decade. Little bit, she was having a little bit of a crisis, which obviously had a knock on effect.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And my favorite memorabilia, I don't know if I have like 90s memorabilia. You had a lava lamp. I had a lava lamp. I used to go to the gadget store in Whitelys. Do you remember those spheres that you put your hand on and it went, the electrical ones? That was quite cool.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yeah and also I feel like rich people had like Charlie Robeson's house, they always had that thing that you put your face in. Your face in yeah and the hands with the nails yeah they were good. We were really easily entertained in the night. Yes and what about a Newton's cradle? Do you remember those? Those tick, tick, tick. You know what I found out? You're not even ready for this. Our beautiful friend Jesse, his dad Richard Longcrain is a big British film director, which is impressive enough. He made my favourite film in the world, Wimbledon. But he actually was, he...
Starting point is 00:09:59 Don't say he invented those things. Yes, he started all those work inventions, those toys that were about sort of Buddhism and you know, I don't know what like the array of them is called, but he put out a book about all the gadgets he's made and all of those were in it. And I was like, why is this here? And Jesse was like, my dad invented all of those. Can you believe that? I actually can't believe that. I don't believe it. It's absolutely true. Don't believe it. I will get confirmation from Jesse that his dad invented all of those things. His dad 100% did not invent Newton's Cradle. Google it, Google it.
Starting point is 00:10:28 The clue is in the fucking name. Yeah, no, but what I'm saying is he brought all those gadgets and kind of remodeled them and made them these like businessmen toys that every, that brought them into the workplace and remodeled them. He licensed them. No, no, no, because he also redesigned some of them. I think hang on The device is named after 17th century English scientists scientists Isaac Newton
Starting point is 00:10:51 Obviously Isaac Newton and was designed by French scientist Edmy Marriott Okay, so unless Jesse's dad was previously a French woman Then that is a lie. Okay. Let me just double check this because this is what he said. I was blown away. You're blown away by his lies. Jesse, can you please tell me, you said that your dad invented all those gadgets that came into the workplace that were based on Isaac Newton's mind and theories, right? Tell me, give me the story. He's going to be so pissed off. Give me the real story. You've called him out as being a liar. He's not a liar. We'll see. We'll get that from Jesse. It felt like people had to be a bit more inventive, I suppose. We weren't relying on tech in the same way. It wasn't
Starting point is 00:11:34 something that you could rely on in the same way. And I think people maybe were a bit more inventive. Memorabilia though, I used to always have, I think everything was covered in like purple fur at one point and I got like a diary set from Portobello and it was like, the pen had purple fur on it, the diary was like fluffy purple fur and then I had another thing in purple fucking fur. I don't know, there was, maybe it was like a Spice Girls thing.
Starting point is 00:11:59 There was also a lot of like poverty and disparity and struggle in the 90s. Yeah, but you know what was good in the 90s? Football. Yes! When I watched the Beckham documentary, I was like, God, I love 1996! It was so uniting and things were great. Manchester United were having this fucking incredible treble moment. Yeah, it was exciting. When was it? Italia was, the World Cup in Italy was 1990, I think. I think we're going to be doing quite a lot of checking up on years. World Cup, yeah, held in Italy.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Yeah, so that was when my dad did the, he left my mom, he left my mom and us. He loved the family. And went off with John Barnes and New Order to go and make a fucking banging football song. I'll give it to him. He's like fucking June. How does it go? We're singing for England, England. We're singing this song.
Starting point is 00:13:02 We're singing for England, England. rivet that she is one on one. Wow. Incredible work, keep. Mind blown. You've got to give it to them. No, for sure. And I was just about to say, you know, who did have a good decade? Your dad.
Starting point is 00:13:19 He had a great 90s. He did. It was his best decade, I'd go as far to say. It was his best years. Oh God. Because you know whose decade the tooth in the Nazis was? That man! Look at that.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And probably it's why so many issues have been caused. No, let's not go there. Let's not. Let's save those issues. Let's keep those in the 90s. We'll keep those for therapy. One for therapy, one for the 90s. Let's have another
Starting point is 00:13:45 question for God's sake. Was the 90s the best era for music? I'll tell you in advance. Yes! Yes! Finally. Great. Cool. Yeah. With you. Thank God someone finally talks about music. I think I've touched upon my love of grunge. With someone. Finally we opened with music and we've touched on it in pretty much every single question since. But have I talked really properly about grunge music and what I loved and who I loved? I was it took over my life after a very special summer I think everyone about 11... Song Song was in the 90s did you know that? Yeah of course yeah. Everything is Everything by Lauryn Hill, Bugaboo by Destiny's Child. The Cranberries with the 90s.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Yeah. The Verve. Listen, I've got to get this out, okay? My love of grunge. Yeah, talk about your grunge thing. I had a summer that changed my life. Like so many people did in the 90s. And when I was 12, I went and had summer in Spain
Starting point is 00:14:39 with my cousin Neymar and a load of kids. And two of them were her friends from New York, Willie and Cheyenne. Willie and Cheyenne. So I thought they were the coolest and they proceeded, they loved grunge and I was like, right, well that's me then, that's a done deal. I am grunge, I live grunge. Which is when I got sidelined. And when I say grunge, we're talking about like, Nirvana of course, but like Pearl Jam.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Of course, my beloved Silverchair. I listened to Frog Stomp the other day. Lily, I could still sit and listen to Frog Stomp. You're literally speaking another language. I don't know what Frog Stomp is. I need to call Tan. Tan knows. I was literally listening to Frog Stomp. I bet you were. Okay? We didn't align on the grunge years. We didn't really align actually. No, we didn't. We came together for the drum and bass years. That's what happened. That's it. So then Phoebe and Lily were like, well, we're also listening to drum and bass
Starting point is 00:15:38 now. And I was like, it was like an issue. Before that in the nineties, I was a huge Hanson fan, like beyond belief like beyond belief. Embarrassing. But I lived for them. I didn't give a shit. And then I remember we started going to squat parties and I was like I'm gonna have to give up Hansen because no one from squat parties can know that I like Hansen. This is like an issue for me. I was worried. You're such a douche. I know I'm such a douche. Anyway um listen to I started going on a grunge patrol the other day and it took me to No Doubt Don't Speak and I was like. Oh, I was listening to that the other day.
Starting point is 00:16:14 That was such a big tune, you know. Isn't it? You and me. Shall we do it? Let's not do it because people will be sick of us singing. But I implore you to go listen to it. The words are fucking brilliant. You and me. I'm gonna call you to go listen to it. Doon, doon, doon, doon. The words are fucking brilliant.
Starting point is 00:16:25 You and me. So like, it just starts and everyone's ready. I was like, oh, Gwen Stefani was such a fucking G. I really feel like I'm losing my best friend. I mean, it looks as though you're letting go. I mean, if it's real and I don't want to know. looks as though you're letting go. I mean, if it's real and I don't want to know. Don't speak.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I mean, if you haven't heard this song, I implore you to go listen to it. No doubt we're good at one point. So yeah, music was great, but everything's better when you're in your formative years and everything feels new and exciting. I think I was just very excited about becoming a teenager finally because we were really wanting to be teenage. We were frustrated, 10 and 11 and 12. We were just like, this sucks. Let's get on with our life. So that's why we were at Scar Party at 12.
Starting point is 00:17:18 It's what my kids are like now. I went up to the rehearsals this morning and I got, because the kid, basically we had a problem with our door and we had to get the door, the locks changed. And then, so we've only got like three keys and the girls don't have a set of keys. And I got a call like at 10.03 when I started my first day in rehearsals. She was like, I'm just going to leave the house unlocked.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I was like, no, Ethel, we can't, you can't leave the flat unlocked. Like that's, that doesn't happen. Like that's very, very irresponsible. We will get burgled. Dangerous. Yeah. She was like, I've made plans. I was like, with who? You live in New York. You don't know anyone here. Nanny Ali's at work. Like, who is she referring to? You have not made plans. She was going, She was going to Westfield to get some socks. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:06 So listen, I was part of that key shit when I was staying at your house. I can't believe you haven't sorted it out yet. That fucking key. I don't want to hear about it anymore. I'm waiting on the fucking council to give me another go. Okay, this is the very nineties. Sorry. We should take a little break from the nineties and just step back into 2025 just for a second
Starting point is 00:18:28 and just remember how much we want to go back to the 90s. Welcome back to a place where love lives, where love lives. The theme is the 90s on today's Listenpitch, the 90s Um, let's have another question please Hi Lily and Makita, it's Leanne here from Linlithgow in Scotland I have a question about the 90s, I was born in 1981, I love the 90s I'm pretty much still stuck there, my fashion sense is pretty 90s. My question is around Cool Britannia, you know the era that it was, Tony Blair, New
Starting point is 00:19:10 Labour, Noel Gallagher in Downing Street, Rick Pop, Kate Moss, you know all these cool young people. I want to know what you both thought of the deemed Cool Britannia movement, was it just a tabloid construction or did you think it was really cool and kind of inspired pride in Britain like it was apparently intended to? Yeah, I just wanted to know what you both thought of Cool Britannia. Did you feel like you were in that scene? Love to know. Thanks. Well, we were too young for that scene, but we were getting to the age where we were starting to be aware of, you know, the culture of the city that we lived in and the country that we lived in.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I have to say, Cool Britannia was exciting. I think it was based on a deep feeling we all love called hope. And suddenly there was hope and unity. And yeah, Tony Blair was like, the man inviting rock stars around to his house for tea. It felt like politics, sport and music and art were all talking to each other. And this is very much what the Tracy Yemen documentary was saying when it was talking about the 90s. It was just everyone was maybe out at the same time with the same intent all at once. And that is a very powerful feeling, I think.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And I don't know whether that's an achievable thing now. I wonder if that's when it actually became, because they did, politically, did band all of those things together as a department. It was like the department for media, sport, television. Like it all came under one thing. Right. And so the intent was to unify the country
Starting point is 00:20:43 through these things. I don't think it's a good thing for one department to have so much control over all of those things. That's what I'm saying. No, actually, that's not what I'm saying. I feel like... You think that it's one person should run all of those things? I don't think so. No, but I like the idea of all those places talking to each other at once and sort of responding to each other for the greater good. Yeah, that's like a functioning government. That would be... Yeah, that's what I mean. A functioning government. Anyway, I think it's too much power for one department to wield is my point.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Mm. Meketa says, yes, I'm saying no. Does he yes from me and I'm like, oh god, I'm so fucking gullible. I think we were a bit of both. We were into Cool Britannia and also sometimes not. Yeah, we were somewhere in the middle. We were riding a wave between Cool Britannia and Uncool Britannia. But I did, I felt like I'd missed a lot of what was going on in the country
Starting point is 00:21:41 because of squat parties. And when you go to parties like that and you're taking so many... No, but seriously, you like, you sort of leave the country for a bit and you're in this other nighttime weekend world. And I remember when I stopped going, I was suddenly like, oh, who's in power? Who's the prime minister? Who are Manchester United? Like, suddenly it was like I was back in the room. And I think it was around the time of all that stuff. Back from your out of body experience. One really long k-hole.
Starting point is 00:22:10 It's a three year k-hole. I gave up Hanson and I went straight into a three year k-hole. Yeah next question. That's right, next question. Hi Lillian Makita, it's Emily from Bath here. I love this week's theme of the 90s. My question is, I want to know what were you both watching in the 90s?
Starting point is 00:22:30 So I'm a bit younger than you both, I'm 36. So I was watching cartoons like Ren and Stimpy, Animals of Farthing Wood, probably the saddest cartoon in the world. And the 90s bought us amazing films, American Beauty, Empire Records, The Craft. So yeah, what films and series were you both watching in the 90s? I'd love to know.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Thanks, bye. Great question. Party of Five. Big Time, After School, Party of Five. Ally McBeal. And also, Do You Watch My So-Called Life? Yeah, Ops. Which I did re-watch recently.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Also Home and Away and Neighbours I was watching. No, but they're depressing. Yeah, but I still watch them. Yeah, definitely. Toadfish. Toady, Heartbreak High. I didn't like Heartbreak High. Dresik.
Starting point is 00:23:18 You didn't watch Dresik in Heartbreak High? No. Oh my God. I don't know why there wasn't enough glamour in Heartbreak High for me. I thought Heartbreak High was way more glamorous than actually Home and Away was low-key glamorous. No, Neighbours was the glamorous one. Home and Away was like the loser cousin. Sorry. Ever since I've been hanging out with Alex Consonni I can't stop saying low-key. I quite
Starting point is 00:23:39 like low-key. Low-key glamorous. What else were we watching? Taggart, Cracker. Taggart. Taggart I watched with my nan. My nan loved a detective drama. But this Friday night TV thing on Channel 4 was like culture making. We're talking, it would start with TFI Friday at six and then you'd have- The big breakfast, come on. Yeah, big breakfast.
Starting point is 00:24:01 That was in the mornings. But Friday nights you'd have that. Or would you have TFI Friday? Huge vibes. Like, big breakfast. That was in the mornings. But Friday nights, you'd have that. Would you have TFI Friday? Huge vibes like a pub on TV. And then you'd have friends. Eurovision. No, not yet. It wasn't Eurovision, baby. It was Euro Trash, which had to be on a bit later.
Starting point is 00:24:16 But you'd have friends at nine o'clock and friends was new. I mean, it's like exciting and funny. And then you'd have Euro Trash, which I actually can't believe was on terrestrial TV because it's just porn straight up. And then my mum did the black version called Bad Ozz TV, but that's for another episode. And then after Euro Trash, I think that's when we'd probably go to bed, try and look for drugs. You and me, we're in a different place. Look for Gotham's Weed at that point. What else? Have a different place. Look, forgot I was weed at that point.
Starting point is 00:24:46 What else? So have a Silent Witness. Silent Witness, and there's also fantastic dramas on that you would like discover because you're, you know, it wasn't like kids TV and adult TV in the same way. Like Brideshead, Brideshead Revisited. Absolutely, but also This Life. How great was this?
Starting point is 00:25:02 This Life changed things. Was Queer Eye for a Straight Guy in 90s or was that 90s? No, not Queer Eye for a Straight Guy 90s or was that 90s? No, not Queer Eye for a Straight Guy, you mean Queer as Folk. Queer as Folk, oh my God, I'm getting all my references all mixed up today, I must be getting old. No, but talking about the 90s is making me feel like this was all fucking ages ago.
Starting point is 00:25:18 But this life was about five lawyers in their 20s, they seemed like such grownups. And they all shared a house in like Southwark, I think. Oh no, maybe that's where they're, I know a lot about the lore from this life, but it was so well written and the characters like Egg and Anna and Miles, god he was fit. And I remember I discovered that
Starting point is 00:25:40 because Phoebe had a TV in her bedroom and Phoebe would always find the kind of late night, not even late night, but nine o'clock BBC two dramas and would show me them. And I'd be like, this is so fun. And because you were young and not meant to be watching them, they were even more exciting. And because you didn't have a phone to distract you. Anyway, can we have another question, please?
Starting point is 00:25:57 Yes, let's. Hi, I'm from Birmingham. I'm a smart. What piece of kind of technology that you're using today? Would you replace with a kind a counterpart from the 90s? So let's say like Spotify, would you buy a Walkman from the 90s? Or what piece of technology that you use today, every day, would you replace with something from the 90s? I love that!
Starting point is 00:26:21 Listen, thanks guys! I would replace my mobile phone with a BT charge card. What does that get you? You can go to the phone box and type in your number on your charge card and make a call. Oh, I never took my reverse charger's call all the way to a charge card. That's so much more organised. A charge card of one's own. Would you have a pager? I'd have a pager. Oh my god, I loved my pager.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Pagers were nuts. I had a purple one. It was from this brand that did them. Motorola? Yeah, I think so. I think they did pretty much all of them. It was Motorola. And I was like, no, but the pager was called something. I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:27:01 But anyway, it was like you have to call an office and say, like, can you page, can you send a message to this person's pager and say, hi, I'm back now or I'll meet you at five. And we thought it was like, at Westbourne Park station, we've got no money. Come get me. That was very much a pager message. I would have got a shell of music. And yeah, I thought it was like technology to the end. I thought it was so high tech. I'd give up streaming music for just a classic old album sleeve. The artwork and the lyrics,
Starting point is 00:27:37 you still love those. Would you change Google Maps for an A to Z? Possibly, possibly, because I love a map. Like a real map. I'm going to have loads of old maps in my new flat. You would look fucking weird if you were just bowling around London with an A to Z. But can you imagine how much more people had to learn their city like an A to Z. Yes but also do you remember how much people would argue in a car and you'd be like, it's, you know, G6. G6. It's in that box. It says it's in that box. Oh my god. I can't see it, mum. I can't see it. Yeah. That's where a lot of my mum and I fights have been, but my mum learned to drive in
Starting point is 00:28:18 the noughties, so that was more noughties. But the thing is, this guy came over today to mum's house and he said, Sat Nav saved my marriage. So maybe Sat Nav did save the A to Z quarrels of yesteryear. Who knows? Another day, another map chat. We'll get back to that. I think it's the penultimate question now. Yes. Go on.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Okay, penultimate question, please. Hello, Makeda and Lily. This is Kim here from Cheddington. I work in Cruise doing their legal stuff and customer service. The 90s! I've been waiting my whole life for you guys to talk about the 90s. I am the same age as you guys. And both of my daughters who are actually the same age as yours, Lily, they're 12 and 13, have got really, really into the 90s. My daughter has just got a Juicy Couture bag. My question is, why do you think we've gone full circle and the kids have suddenly grabbed onto the 90s vibe? Because not every era has come back,
Starting point is 00:29:26 but why the 90s? What is it about Juicy Couture? What is it about Leopard Print? Why have they started getting the Playboy Bonnie perfume again? What appeals to the youth of today about the 90s? Love you guys so much. Speak soon.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Firstly, Leopard Print has never gone away. Not for you. Not for me. That is something that will, I will die in leopard print. Mark my words. Is leopard print 90s? I guess it is, yeah. No, I would say it's 80s actually. Yeah. But also I do think that every era has a sort of resurgence, doesn't it? Like, I feel like we definitely went through dressing in a 70s phase, like with our flares and our little like, you know, multicolored
Starting point is 00:30:09 tops. We wore bells in the 90s. And then, you know, you could say that like, you know, new rave in the noughties, that was like, the fashion was referencing 80s, for sure. I think it's basically every 20 years,'t it it's like what happened 20 years before so their 90s is now 30 years ago though isn't it don't even start okay even start but like end of night it was about 20 years ago I think once something's been gone for 20 years it's time for it to come back in a kind of
Starting point is 00:30:39 new way yeah probably because your parents still have some of that stuff knocking around in their wardrobes that's why but what was the one thing she said what was her example she said Leather print what was the other thing? Juicy Couture. Juicy Couture also never went away. Well I think it did I actually found these like Juicy Couture bags and TK Maxx would name me yesterday in Hackney and nearly bought them they were so fly but I was like if you remember what Juicy Couture was about but I suppose I wasn't getting like, I wasn't getting the tracksuit. Probably also the reason that people are into the nineties is because it's the last time
Starting point is 00:31:10 that it looked like anyone was having fun. We're so lucky that we got some of it, you know. Yeah, I know. Let's have the bloody final question. Can we have the last and final question for the 90s please? Hello Lillian Meketa, my name is Sophie. I'm originally from Peterborough but I live in Perth in Western Australia. Just want to say how much I am loving Miss Me. I was a bit of a late starter to the pod so I'm still working my way through the back catalogue. I started in April when I was packing up to move house and it got me through that very stressful couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Anyway, even though I haven't quite caught up yet I saw on your Insta that you were looking for questions about the 90s. I was born in 97 but I firmly believe that I was born way too late. I love everything 90s, I'm a massive Britpop fan. I remember going to the cinema to watch the Oasis Nebworth documentary and coming out just feeling a bit depressed because even though there's no way that I could have experienced it I just constantly feel like I missed out. Have you ever experienced that feeling of being born in the wrong generation and if so when would you have rather have been born? Love you both, thank you, bye. Yeah you did miss out because I feel like we missed out as well. I would have preferred to,
Starting point is 00:32:23 like I wouldn't love to be older now but I would have preferred to, like, wouldn't love to be older now, but I would have liked to have been born when we were old enough to rave in the late 80s, early 90s, like 93 raving. Yeah, I would have liked to have been at the Wag Club and the Met Bar, low key, to be honest. Yeah, we would have killed the Met Bar. We would have been like, hey, yeah! So, this is definitely our vibe.
Starting point is 00:32:46 With Boris Becker in the... How do you describe the Met Bar? Didn't Boris Becker get someone pregnant in the broom cupboard at the Met Bar? That was Nobu upstairs and we did kill that place. We did. Our time there. But that was the noughties. That was the noughties. the Met Bar and the Nobu were the same place. Yeah, I guess the Met Bar was the bar underneath Nobu. No, because it wasn't little. You had to come out and go left, didn't you? It was like another block. Yeah, but that's where like all Oasis and Frank Cutler and Kate Moss and All Saints and Robbie Williams and they all hung out. Yes, to go back to an earlier question. Oh, we should have been there. I know, to go back to an earlier question
Starting point is 00:33:25 of how did you feel about Cool Britannia, I suppose that was a part of it as well. And I really felt a bit like we should be partying with them. I don't know why we're not at that, even though we were like 12, 12. And I think maybe because our parents were adjacent to that partying and sometimes at those parties, that I was a bit like, we should be there.
Starting point is 00:33:44 So we made sure we were bloody there as soon as we possibly could. But not the Met Park, so it closed down. You know what else is closing down? This episode. Oh, very good. I'm a bit worried about my listen bitch theme, but I just don't give a shit
Starting point is 00:33:59 what any of you think when we're doing it. Oh no, the stress after such a good one. What are you going to do to us? I think it's important. I won't even go into why I just wanna do it. We're doing it, so that's the end of it. The theme for next week's Listen Bitch in this hot, sweaty, salty summer is...
Starting point is 00:34:20 Contraception. Oh my God, I was literally just about to say fertility. I thought that's what you were going to say. LOL. Good, stick that on the list because we need to do fertility. Contraception is such a great one. I've used so many different kinds. I've realised I've used so many different kinds.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I have not. I've only used one. Right, well I'll be the authority on this. I'll tell you all about it next week. And also, I've talked to some people recently who are a little really still practicing the pulling out method. And I'd like to know if that's actually a vibe for millions of people because I can't see that as a... I definitely think the BBC are going to have an issue with that particular method. Yes, well, we'll see. More to come next week. Please get in touch. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:07 080304090, 080304090, let us be your public service people. Let's talk about contraception altogether now. But let's be clear that we will not be doing any educating because we are not doctors. I'm not doctors, but I have used a hell of a lot of different kinds of contraception. So I've at least trodden the board somewhat. Okay, well done you. Must be safe. Better to be safe than sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:35 We're gonna go now. Cause we're just about to get out of this Ed-Pool free. So we'll see you later. Lil, I'll see you later. See you later. See you later. Lil, I'll see you later. See you later. See you later. Bye. Thanks for listening to Miss Me
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