Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! Blink of an Eye

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

Miquita Oliver and Jordan Stephens answer your questions about astronomy.Next week, we want to hear your questions about IDIOMS. Please send us a voice note on WhatsApp: [phone]. Or, if you like, send us an email: [e-mail] episode contains very strong language and adult themes. Credits: Producer: Natalie Jamieson Technical Producer: Oliver Geraghty Assistant Producer: Caillin McDaid Production Coordinator: Rose Wilcox Executive Producer: Dino Sofos Commissioning Producer for BBC: Jake Williams Commissioners: Dylan Haskins & Lorraine Okuefuna Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. This is not the future we were promised. Like, how about that for a tagline for the show? From the BBC, this is the interface, the show that explores how tech is rewiring your week and your world. This isn't about quarterly earnings or about tech reviews. It's about what technology is actually doing to your work and your politics, your everyday life.

And all the bizarre ways people are using. the internet. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. The following episode contains strong language adult themes, some singing. And many, many songs with the word stars in them. I would like to welcome everyone to listen bitch. The theme today is astronomy.

Q twinkling sound, cue twinkling sound. Exactly. Cue like celestial. Dik-d-d-ding-ding-d-ding-d-ding-ding-d-d-d-d-d-d. That'd be great. if we can find some sort of like standard celestial sounds. Yeah, yeah. But I just all week I've been like, oh my God, why did I say astronomy?

Like astrology, I know a bit through Phoebe. But astronomy? Did you mean to say astrology? No, we've done astrology. Lil and I did it in the first year. Astronomy is the study of everything in the universe beyond the Earth's atmosphere. It's the science that deals with celestial object, space, and the physical universe as a whole. No problem.

I just suddenly felt like I was in a test and then I went and grabbed this book from my sitting room and I realised it's just about the moon. Isn't it beautiful though? Isn't it nice to have a big book in Listen Bitch? Yeah. Isn't that nice?

Luna. But today's not just about the moon. It's about everything. Everything around us. Let's have our first question for today's Listen Bitch. The theme is Astronomy. Hello, Keats and Jordan. Craig here.

Originally from Liverpool but live in London. Massive fan of the show. It has me chuckling quite a lot. but I love the heart and soul that you guys bring. So astronomy, I'm not a massive studier of science and stars and stuff. But the one thing that I love to do, when we have a clear night here in the UK, is to look up at stars, I mean, I'm sure everyone does, but for me, when your head is full of drama, life feels dramatic and heavy.

To look up at the stars, all that just dissipates. I have a feeling of like feeling so small and insignificant. And I know that's quite overwhelming for some people to sort of think about. But it makes me feel like, why am I here? And why have I created all this drama when the stars are just there shining, you know? Do you have any connection or relationship with the stars? Does it help your day to day? Does it help you get through some stuff knowing something bigger is at play in the way?

I'd love to hear your thoughts. Take care, guys. You were worried about the questions for this. Craig has just dropped in. Casual philosopher. Scouse wizard, brother. That was beautiful. Coming in with that, oh, by the way, I don't do much science,

but then delivers the most profound, beautiful sentiment. Really quite profound. I'm actually good to just end this and bitch there. Yeah, I'm done. I don't really see the point that going further than, do I look up to the sky and feel insignificant in a way that makes me feel profoundly peaceful? Yes, I had that in Copan Yang in Thailand. It's changed my life.

Wow. It was a clear night. It's the sound of the waves. Like, oh, man, I just... They call it all. Yeah. A-W-E. I think all means to feel all at once very small and very big at the same time.

For my ninth birthday, when I was, I think it was nine, I was nine, yeah. My mom has these two friends. friends called Stephen and Carl. And for a period of time, they were living in Connemara in Ireland. We went out there to see them and they lived in this house like literally in the middle of nowhere. Bear in mind, you know, I was living in Neesden at the time. So it was like, you know, city boy.

We went out to the Irish countryside. Wow. And they had this gorgeous place, maybe a mile from a post office. You know what I mean? That kind of vibe. Patrick and Carl drove me out to the middle of nowhere, no streetlights, no nothing. for my birthday and got me to stand out of the car and I've never, ever seen so many stars in the sky

and I became infatuated at that age. And then they gave me a book of constellations as the second part of my present, and I've always, from that point, when I can see stars in the sky, I feel really calm. So I actually completely understand what it is that Craig's talking about because it's just profound.

And I even knew, like, the different magnuses of the stars, like the brightness, how far away that meant they were. Like, it was just... Right. So in this land of astronomy, you felt like you were more learning about the kind of physical nature of stars. Yeah, so in the book you had everything,

you had the constellations which are fascinating because they've been named because of historical things. So it goes into Greek mythology and everything. Some of them do, yeah. Beautiful. Yeah, Pleiades, Cassiopia. Then you have like Orion's Belt. Orion's Belt is the one that's the most noticeable.

Beetle juice, of course. If you look up in the sky for the stars, you very often can see Orion's belt. I don't know why that fucking belt's so prominent. But it's like, oh, look, we can see stuff. Constellations and it's Orion's Bell. Because they'll be particularly bright. They're intense.

But then obviously the wild thing about stars is that they might have already died. What? Like the time it takes for the light to travel to the earth. Wait, hold on, let me get this right. Let's get this right, because this is interesting. Sorry, it's good that we look this up. It's a myth that the stars are dead.

However, what I'm getting confused with is because of the time it takes for light to travel, the version of the star that we're seeing isn't reflective of where the star is currently at. Okay. Okay. Because light takes time to travel, we see nearby stars as they were years ago and distance ones as they were thousands of years ago.

However, since stars live for millions or billions of years, a few thousand years, it's just a blink of an eye. Yeah. That kind of shit freaks me out. Yeah, it's wild, right? Oh my God, it's like, what is time? What is it? Yeah.

Okay. All righty. Anyway, so I got really into the different magnitudes and what that meant and like, oh, thank you, my love. Ratisa. Oh, oh, that's it. Cheats just done a show up early to getting glam for promo and she still makes you tea.

No, she was making herself a cup of tea first, thank very much. I don't care. Excuse me, I offered you one. I know you did. I'm just, she made it out like I was, like, I was waiting on you. Yeah. No, not waiting on you. Just the love between you two is lovely.

She says the love between us too is lovely Oh That's what I was saying Jady Thanks Keith She's not a bit rough You don't know rough man But get ready You look like a pop star again

Are you wearing that hat Don't piss me No I'm not wearing the hat I'm not wearing that No I'm joking you as you can No I'm going to something Cooler than your hat All right

Can you just ask Jabe one question What's her favourite constellation Jade what's your favourite constellation Orion Yeah Orion Because our next Vatter Me and Leanne Got put in a different girl band

First with a different member And we called ourselves Orion because we were three stars. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that one's almost felt special to me. Who was the third star? She didn't make it. But she was so lovely. I still think about her actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Does the world know that? She doesn't want anyone to know that. Someone that's really famous out there that was also an ex-factor that doesn't want anyone to know. Crazy. What, and is it success now? Yeah. That's crazy. No! No! Oh, shit. And I was friends with, I've been friends with for like

15 years and she told me like 10 years in like what so she was how can you secretly be on X Factor anyway this is a different kind of star that we're talking about but do you know about quickly keeps do you feel that way though I think that's what I think what Craig was asking is do you have an equivalent he feels at peace with the insignificance of his size in comparison to the universe you seem to be almost tripped by that what's your equivalent of that

it's like where you are you're in Toronto right yeah I went there to visit my family when I was 10 and we went to Niagara Falls and it scared me in a way I've never really been able to explain and I think it was its size and there's something about when things are bigger than I can comprehend

it makes me feel a bit like shaky on the ground makes me feel like I might fall down yeah yeah it just makes me like I can't I think that's called vertigo yeah I do get vertigo I do get vertigo if I fly a kite on top of a hill I'm fucked

I'll fall down because I just get like the world isn't flat I don't know. Yeah, yeah. It's too much. But just with Stars, I just wanted to say one of my favorite songs is that Disney's song. Sorry. It's cold play.

Fuck you. Look at the Stars. Look how they shine. That is a good song. Bangor, mate. Early Coldplay, don't say shit to me. I'll literally fight anyone, bro. Parachutes, one of the best ever.

I've already said this on Miss Me. Why don't we do a different song that talks about the universe or stars? or the planets. Craig, you get yellow cold play. Okay, let's have another question. School is in session. Hey guys, this is Liz. I'm calling in from Des Moines, Iowa.

I have a little house in the Midwest. Longtime fan of the pod. I haven't missed a single episode. Love you guys. And this week's topic is astronomy, right? So I was just talking to my husband this morning about stars. He was saying, isn't it amazing that

We live so close to a star that it just warms up our whole lives and it lights up our atmosphere and it makes everything glow on half of the side of the planet. So I guess I'm wondering if you guys often think about our sun as a star. Oh, okay. God, all the way from Iowa. Wow. She's spitting facts.

Like, it's wild. Tell me why you agree with this lady. Well, the concept is legit. There is a big, huge star in our universe, I guess it's our solar system. That's right. That warms the earth. I was just thinking about being in the sun

because the sun came out at the end of last week for just about an hour. It was just like, I know I've been on holiday so I can't say shit, but like, God, it was nice to just feel the London sun and it was warm on my face. And I just let myself stand in it for like 10 minutes. And I was like, it feeds you.

It really does. It's powerful stuff, man. I mean, the moon too, which is obviously reflecting the sun anyway. But yeah, it's amazing. It's incredible we should be incredibly grateful for the song. We're with you. Liz from Iowa. Thank you from being so far away from both myself

and actually not too far from Jordan and being somebody who listens to Miss Me. I love that. It's really cool. Your song, Liz, is when you wish upon a star sung beautifully by Geppetto in Pinocchio. And that is one of my favorite star songs. Wish upon a star.

When you wish upon a star. It's such a beautiful sentiment. And a wish upon a star. No, no. That's a great star song, but you should save it for the next one. Isn't that the one you just said? No. That's Rose Royce.

This is, I said, Geppetto in Pinocchio. Get Jay back for fuck's sake. It's a Disney. Shine bright like a diamond. No, that doesn't come to this astronomy school. session. The song I'm talking about is, when you wish upon a star, makes no difference who you are. Okay. I thought that was pretty obvious. Isn't it funny that that's how we measure merit? In keeping with your fascination with awards. Yes. Isn't that odd? That's what we call

people who are doing well, stars. Shining bright. Shining bright. Absolutely. So Liz, I hope we answer to your question. And I hope you like your song. This is fun. Thank you, Nat. It won the Oscar. For fuck sake, it won best. Who is Oscar?

Oh, okay, let's not go there. Best original song in 1949, did you say, Nat? Jesus Christ. Pinocchio came out in 1940. Yeah. So, are you joking, is it? Yeah, yeah. All right, let's have another question and another song.

Hi, my loves. I wondered if you think a danger to knowing too much about astronomy. So my dad is retired and he's been teaching me about the stars and the moon and it's a really nice way for us to connect with each other. But sometimes I don't want to understand it. I just want to be in awe of it. Mm. Mm. I hear you. I hear you. Well, the great thing about astronomy, when you're talking about like the universe, we can never really know everything. There's just no way. I mean, I've had to deal with this recently, just realizing that I'm not ever going to learn everything in the world.

And I apply that to this as well. Like, I'm not going to learn everything there is to know about astronomy before I die. And there will be things learned about astronomy after I die. And we have to make kind of peace with that. And I think that allows you to live in the magic of it and the knowledge of it. Because like the shit we know, there is so much stuff going on that we just don't know, which is also really scary. I think it's important to learn as much as you can, but leave 20% for magic as the great say. I just, I can't imagine that you would be able to feel a less wonder the more you learn. Like, you've ever heard someone say that like the bottom of the ocean and the sky are the same thing?

But you just, there's no way of explain. That's interesting because aren't you doing a children's book about the bottom of the ocean? I did that, yeah. It's out? Yeah, I came out last year. Oh, I thought that was the one you were working on. So how did you do the research for the bottom of the ocean? It was based off of, well, the principle was that like,

I think it's fascinating that we know arguably more about Mars than we do about the bottom of the ocean. We have touched the bottom of the ocean, but there's loads of the bottom of the ocean that we haven't explored. And in my head, it's like, you know, imagine if you went so far into the bottom of the ocean that you just came out in space.

Like it's the same thing. Stop it, stop it, sorry. Would you go to space? Would you want to go to space? Of course. But I don't think I would, that way. Yeah. Have you ever seen that video of when William Shatner went to space?

space with Jeff Bezos. No. It's really depressing. William Shatner went to space and had like an actual existential crisis. Captain Kirk. Yeah. Did he? Oh no, that's awful.

It's not awful. He came back and now he's an environmentalist. Oh, I thought you meant like he couldn't handle real space after pretending to be a captain that could like, that ruled space. He went out to space. He was like, what the fuck, man? Like we've got this tiny planet. What are we doing?

And then he tried to say it to Jeff Bezos. and Jeff Bezos was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then just like popped a bottle of champagne. Obviously. Jeff Bezos was like, whoop, over his head. It was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Space, bro.

Like, fucking. Okay. Would I want to go to say, sorry, no, I wouldn't, but also, what I really can't believe that... Why not, sorry? Too much black for me. I can't deal with how much black is up there. Like, there's too much black hole energy up in space.

Like, it just, I find it's so overwhelming the idea of it. I wouldn't want to be up there, no. Can I just, say as two people who obviously love the stars and the planets and everything around us, I don't have a telescope. Do you? No, but I have been around people who have telescopes. Me too.

I would get a telescope. My friend, yeah, who I made all the OG Rizzle kicks videos. He's called Toby Lockerbie, right? We did all our first Rizzle Kicks videos together. He was a wedding photographer. I met him in my friend's house. Back in those days, having like shallow depth of field

was like a game changer. So like he had a Canon 5D. and I was like, can we do a music video? We made this music video for trumpets. We got signed. Like, it was all part of this huge thing. And then we did all these videos together. And it cost nothing.

And it was like a massive part of why I'm here on the podcast, right? Right. He since then has begun a channel, right, called Epic Space Man online. Yeah. It is one of the most incredible things I've ever witnessed. The director of my favorite film, one of my favorite films of All Time Le Hain, DMed him like, dude, we have to do something. What does he do on?

this space thing. He's basically doing what we're trying to do, but he's studied, like, as his hobby, he's studied astronomy for years and years. He creates, like, these animations that take him, like, nine, ten, 11 months, months. Wow. Right?

Wow. He, like, puts an animated version of himself into, like, an astronaut suit, and he explains the scale of, like, humans or the Earth in comparison to the universe. Wow. It blew me away, because obviously, I always knew he had a good eye for this stuff,

but, like, wow. Do you remember that guy that was on TV when we were kids that had like a monocle, Patrick Moore? Yeah, that rings Bowers. And he was like the Stars guy when we were a kid. He was like the Stars guy. That's like all he did, right? He talked about astronomy on television. Yeah, I guess so.

He hosted The Sky at Night, which is still on TV, but now it's Maggie Adarin Pocock, who's fantastic. I'm so happy that show's still on telly, because he was a while ago. He was great. He was excellent. I guess our version of it now is Brian Cox. Who's fine, sure. But I always feel... I love Brian Cox.

You know, he is good and he knows his shit, but I feel like sometimes he's always just trying to make, like, the universe cool. And it's like, well, it doesn't need to be cool. It's bloody interesting. What do you mean trying to make the universe cool? Sometimes it's maybe it's not him, it's just the edit. But on his shows, sometimes it just feels like they're trying to make it hip.

It doesn't need to be. I find it hilarious that you think Brian Cox is trying to be it. He totally is. Wasn't he like in a band? He was in dream. D. Ream even. Yeah, but doesn't mean he's hip. He's just like a young person who like,

who just happens to be unbelievably bright. Maybe it's just a younger person talking about astronomy. Jordan, what's your song for this question? Do you want to do that song that you incorrectly did on the last one? No, you got it. It was Rose Royce. Oh my God. And that, my producer wants us to throw in a bit of brand new heavies.

I mean, why not? It's the astronomy episode. How do you like me now? I only know one brand new heavy's tune. Um... Okay. Rose Royce wishing on a star, I think. Let's have another question.

Then you can have space and then give another one. There's a Harry Starr's song about constellations. Want to go to a break, Keats? Yes, let's dance in the stars and have a little break. This is not the future we were promised. Like, how about that for a tagline for the show? From the BBC, this is the interface. show that explores how tech is rewiring your week and your world.

This isn't about quarterly earnings or about tech reviews. It's about what technology is actually doing to your work and your politics, your everyday life. And all the bizarre ways people are using the internet. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to ListenBitch. Today we're talking all about astronomy. It's been bloody lovely, actually. I was really scared, but I've really enjoyed it so far.

Can we have another question for today's Listen, bitch? Hi, good morning. My name is Kelly, and I live in a beautiful little village called Detling in Maidstone. Listen to your podcast a lot. Started with my love from Lily Allen and my best friend too. My biggest passion, other than that in life, is astronomy. I spend most of my time looking up at the sky. But I have seen some seriously unexplainable.

things happen and I wondered if you've seen anything, not UFO or anything fascinating happening in the sky because I feel like there's not enough people looking up. I thought I saw a shooting star when we were in Sri Lanka but I don't think I did and I would love to see a shooting star one day. I've seen a couple, man. Have you? I think I've seen three. In England?

One in England. I feel like I saw one in Thailand as well. Whoa. They're really cool. Yeah, I can imagine. There's like star showers that you can look out for. Oh, this is a good time to talk about Moondog. Do you remember Moondog?

No, but Moondog is a really cool name. What is that? Remember, it was like the night after New Year's Eve when we were away. And me, Libby and Flynn and Phoebe and Kamal saw this like white orb of light around the moon. Like I can't even explain it. It was like, what is that? It was there for hours. And then we looked it up and it was like, that's called a moon dog.

And it's very rare. Wow. And it was so interesting to be looking up in the sky. guy seeing something that you don't even know you're looking for. I didn't know that was something. I wasn't like, God, I wish I'd seen a moon dog. I was like, what is this? And it really was something very real that stayed with us for a long time to the point where me and Libby and Flynn and Phoebe have a group now, which is a side group on Sri Lanka called moon dog. That is cool, by the way. The fact is called moon dog. I did a ceremony once,

and the ceremony lasted until three in the morning. And when I walked out, I was a lot of the night. And when I walked outside of where it was taking place, which was actually in a kind of mansion in Glastonbury, I looked out into the sky. I know this sounds crazy, but just listen. Your ceremony was at Glastonbury? Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't Glasby Festival. It was the Oh, just the area. It is just the area. And I looked up into the sky and like maybe eight stars just started like flying. Like literally just like moving across the sky at like a really. at a rate, bear in mind for those who can read between the lines, I was, you know, post a ceremony,

so I was already in kind of like maybe an altered state. And I fortunately had other people there, and I was going, can everyone see these stars, like flying through the sky? They were like, yeah, it's Starlink. Star what? Starlink. Elon Musk has these satellites.

Oh. That look exactly like stars and fly around the Earth. actually wild. And then what's mad is when he put them into the sky, there was a massive pushback from astronomers because there was something to do with the light, the way the light reflected off the satellites, obscured like certain calculations and things in the night sky.

Yes, I mean, we're really like affecting some old celestial shit now. Yeah, it was insane. Oh my God, I've got a good star song for this. Starry, starry night. I don't know what that. I can't think of it. I've gone out of star songs. Well, it's actually a Don McLean song, is it?

But James Blake does a beautiful version of it. Does it count if I just name a song by the Neptunes? No. Oh, that's good. Yes. Yes. Actually, that's good. Say that.

Oh, my God. Starburster by Fontaine's DC, which is a banger and jades in a video. That is, that's one of the, that song is sick. Can we have another question, please? Hello, Makita and Jordan. Sarah and I live in Bedford. And I love your podcast. It's wonderful. On the topic of astrology, am I the only one who thinks that if you have to see it through a phone and press this setting and that setting and turn it 180 degrees and then you can see the northern light? Am I the only one that

thinks that that's just not real? Because what else have we been missing on our iPhones if we use certain settings and not seeing it through the naked eye. I know that we've always had telescopes and you kind of expect certain things to be really, really, really far away. But when it comes to things that everyone's like, oh yeah, I saw the Northern Lights and here's the amazing photo out of my bedroom window on my iPhone, I'm like, yeah, but you didn't see it with your eyes. So, yeah, I'm really conflicted. Does it count or does it not count? What do you guys think? It hits the soul different, doesn't it? If there's been too much, technology involved.

But that's why you can't take a good picture of the moon. I love that you can't take a good picture of the moon on your phone. You're not fucking... Can these days? No, you can't. You can. No, you can't. I have plenty.

Nothing like you can see, though, and feel. Nothing like that. Do you want to know something crazy about the moon, though? Yeah, sure. Always. Okay, so you know where they say that, like, the moon controls the tides? Yes. But you know when they say the tides coming in?

Yeah. You know that it's not... The water's not moving. The Earth is. I think I've been told this before and I think it spun me out then. It's such a trip. So when they go,

oh, the tide's coming in, it means the Earth is retracting. There's like a slight oval gravitational pull because of the moon or something like that. Right. Yes, yes, yes. When the Earth is rotating,

the water is being pulled by the gravity. gravity so we're just going further away from where the water is rather than the water's being pulled out and we're still, you get what I'm saying? That's trippy to me. Yeah, that feels a bit like upside down world. Yeah, a little bit like it. It's a bit Truman show. I love all of it. No, it makes me feel like strange. Isn't it mad that you're made of stars as well? That's crazy. We're made of the same things as a star, the same chemical composition. Yeah, I think I do know that too.

I think so. Today that's freaking me out. So let me just tell you that Galileo made the first telescope, which I thought was very interesting. Do we know that for a fact? Because it's probably his girlfriend. Hello. This is from my lunar book, which I really trust.

It's not like some AI shitty. Not AI. I just mean like these guys be just stealing shit, bro. No, no, no. Actually, it was a person just before him who was a glasses maker, but then he made the first, like, actual telescope, but the other guy made the glass. Do you know what I mean?

already there, theft already. It's like Colombo, I mean Columbus all over again. Can we have a final question? School is shutting down after this question. Star man waiting in the sky. Nice, yeah, it's good to ask

from David Bowie. Hi, Macita. Hi, Jordan. My name's Mia and I am from Watford. I'm currently a university student studying politics. My question for you this week is, what is your favourite constellation and why? My favourite constellation is Orion and it's for a little bit of a trivial reason. When I was in year three, my class was called Orion class because we got named after constellations. And it was the first year that we had that happen. But it meant that we learned a lot about the

constellation and like the mythology behind it that year but I ended up leaving the school after that so I never got to learn about any other constellations so yeah I love the podcast um Jordan I actually came to get your latest album signed by you and I've like yesterday just opened um my package that contained Lily's new album so they're both sat on my shelf next to each other but yeah I love the podcast what sweetheart what bloody deeply when you drop in your album but Makita. Oh, God, Miss me fan. I know, I'm sorry.

No, she can have a skipping rope from me. Oh, yeah, exactly. So it's interesting that she said Orion, okay? Of course. This is the one we don't. Everyone's going on about it. Orion's the hunter. And if you get one of those apps,

I do have one of those, like, seeing this constellations at night apps, and it is very fun. It is very satisfying when you see these sort of big Greek mythological characters come into the sky. Ursa Major is the Great Bear. Cassiopeia.

Kassiopeia, Queen of the Stars. Yeah, I've definitely never seen that That's the name of my first pet tiger When did you, okay And then Signis is the Swan Which is also known as the Northern Cross God, I'd love to see some of these But I think what I've mainly seen

The Plow Oh yeah, of course the plow Plades is also a cool one I don't know why they're seven sisters But there are And then there's a tube station called Seven Sisters So it's got to mean some in I've never seen a crux

That's like a cross in the sky Can you imagine That would be quite intense You need to show about the North Star Bro keeps people alive I mean it kept me alive as well for a few years. It's the compass of the earth, bro.

I love the North Star. I love that terminology as well, the idea of like, your North Star and what's your guiding light and who's your North Star? You know what? It's making me realise that I really do want to go to the Greenwich Observatory

in Greenwich Park in London. When I was watching Queen Charlotte, the Netflix spin-off of Bridgeton, which is fantastic, much better than Bridgeton. King, you know, our King that was sort of dealt with a lot of mental health issues

at a time when no one understood anything like that. Part of his illness, but also part of his passion was astronomy, and he built the Greenwich Observatory. Sorry, it's actually, George's was the King Observatory in Richmond. It was Charles II who gave us the Greenwich Observatory. Thank you, Charles II. Fucking thank you.

It's just like the fact that we have it, it's so beautiful and magical looking. It looks like it's from a Roldahl book, and it's right there. It's on your side of the river, for God's sake. It's actually, it's right next to where me and Jade had our first name. What a place for a first date. I know. Did you go into the observatory? No.

Okay. It's a quite nice thing to do for a date. I'm going to do that. That's a great date idea. It's like Ross and Rachel, first night. It wasn't the first night. You know friends so well. It wasn't the first night.

But that was super romantic. That's so funny. You're like, not even a beat. It wasn't the first night. I don't think it was their first day. I mean, maybe you're wrong. I don't feel like it wasn't. It's the night they first have sex, okay?

Under the stars. I did have a fantastic grandfather who wasn't my blood grandfather. He was my grandma, my nanny's boyfriend. He was called Ray. And I loved him very much. He was a complicated man, but I loved him very much. And he took me and Phoebe and Theo outside to do things like 10-mile walks. and he taught us to swim in the sea and swim in general,

and he taught us about the stars. So I was really lucky. I had someone that really gave a shit that taught me a lot. I haven't remembered any of it, as we can see. He taught me a lot about the wonderment of the sky and everything around us. So I just wanted to say, thank you, Ray, my grandpa, for doing that for us and that I love you. And I'm really happy that I had someone like you in my life to teach me how to, like, run, walk, observe and swim.

Yeah. And that is how we'll end this astronomy special of ListenBitch. Jordan, you actually do have a really good idea. So next week's ListenBitch theme is... Idioms. Coming up next week, I would love you guys to send your voice notes in about idioms, meaning sayings that you've heard throughout your life that you've secretly been confused about.

I may have one or two of them myself. Yes. The things we just say, but we're not really sure. or where they come from, what they mean. We just say them and we don't know the root. Have you ever had an experience where you've said it in the wrong context, etc, etc? On my TikTok, I was saying how I don't understand the phrase,

you can't have your cake and eat it. It doesn't make any sense to me. That's good. I love that. In the comments, people were kept talking about idioms. And there's those idioms that we shorten so that they mean the reverse thing. So, for example, blood is thicker than water. People think that means you should be law to your family,

but it's actually blood of the conventant is thicker than the water of the womb, which is the opposite. This is my shit. idioms. Idioms. WhatsApp your voice notes to 08,030, 40, 90, do it. Or else we will not have a show. But you'll do it anyway.

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