Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! Do We Have Chemistry?

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

Is it a spark? Something to be wary of? Or simply science? Miquita and Jordan answer your questions about ‘chemistry’ in any way you felt like interpreting it. Is that feeling when you click with someone pure chemistry to be trusted, or something else? And will the periodic table even get a mention though? Brace yourselves, next week we’re after your voice note questions on DEATH. WhatsApp us your voice notes on ‘death’ to https://wa.me/447849030711Get weekly recommendations for things to watch or read or listen to from the Miss Me? Library every Friday at patreon.com/missmeFollow the show on instagram and TikTok @missme.4evaYou can contact Miss Me? on email at [e-mail] Presented by: Miquita Oliver and Jordan StephensProducer: Natalie JamiesonTechnical Producer: Oliver Geraghty Assistant Producer: Katie-Louise Buxton Video Editor: Danny PapeProduction Coordinator: Tom JacksonExecutive Producers: Sam MichellMiss Me? is a Persephonica show Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, welcome to Listen Bitch, the saying that was part of my teenage years that meant nothing and now means so many things to so many people. It's almost like the word airplane. You know, when you say airplane too many times, then it doesn't mean anything. That's how I feel about Listen, Bitch. Really? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, because it's just like, now it's just the title of this thing.

But before it was this thing I used to actually say to someone. Listen bitch Little old listen bitch Has been on its own journey For nearly three years Was it two and a half years We're doing the show So I'm proud of little listen bitch

And amazingly listen bitch Still has themes that we haven't covered Today's theme Is chemistry Woo Let's go to class Let's have our first question for today's listen bitch Hey Mackear and Jordan

It's Luke from Tomber 12s I saw the topic for ListenBitch was chemistry and it got me thinking about chemistry in friendships rather than sexual chemistry or you know chemistry with a partner with friendships i find that it often ebbs and flows over the years depending on where you are in your life and and how much you still have in common how do you manage to maintain the chemistry in a friendship or is the fact that it it naturally goes away a sign that you should probably leave the friendship. Thanks, guys.

Oh, God. Thank you. I love Tumbridge Wells. I've been there quite a lot. My cousin Phoebe's grandma lives in a neighbouring village called Wadhurst. For every Tumbridgewellian out there who all know what I'm talking about. Friendship chemistry. Yeah, I think we call it having a vibe. Right.

I think that's what we mean when we say. Yeah, she's vibey. Yeah, he's vibey. I think I have a really good chemistry with my friend, Seb. He's a friendship that I have that's very pure, Jordan. We were together the other day. We had seen each other about three weeks, which is quite a long time for us.

And I genuinely sat and thought quite often in our night together. I get on with this person and love this person in such a simply pure way, and I can't put my finger on it. And I think that really is a chemistry of its kind. Because if you look at what chemistry means, It does say that it's a law. The fundamental chemical law statements describe how matter, okay, how matter behaves, combines and reacts during chemical and physical processes.

So I think if we take that to us as human beings, it is a law about how we react through the process of spending time together and sometimes you can't put your finger on it, but it just is. And I think that is chemistry when it comes to like our relationships in life. That's what's so good about chemistry. can't bottle it. You can't put your finger on it, but it just is. And because it's an actual scientific law, I think that that kind of gives it that backbone of we're not meant to understand it. It's bigger than us. Sorry, I've had to rejig my set up slightly because the sun was so

on my face. I've had to shut the blinds and redo the lighting. That's all right. That's what happens when you film a podcast at home and not in a studio. I find, just in my experience, a lot of it comes down to like communication styles. I think I find it much easier to forge relationships with people who communicate in a particular way and nurture it in a particular way. I don't actually care that much about there being different types of friendship chemistry. Like that I have friends that I won't speak to for months and I don't mind because when I do is a vibe. I've had people enter into my life recently and just the way they communicate is just totally in sync with how I do and then it's

much easier to form bonds. So they'll text in they'll check in a way that I can understand and then I'll check in a way that they can understand and it just works like that. What was his question? What's the line between like a friendship with like which doesn't have good chemistry and it not being a friendship at all?

I would call those people acquaintances. Yeah, but that's what I'm trying to say though is like I don't think that I necessarily have bad friendship chemistry of people I don't speak to all the time. Sometimes that's just the style of that particular friendship. Yeah, it actually isn't that. That the chemistry. It's like it doesn't need to be fed all the time because there is chemistry. Yeah, I guess so. I think also, yeah, I could talk about this phrase actually. I just think mutual interest, mutual places in life. That's what you were talking about.

It was mentioning about like some people will have kids and then they'll be less accessible. You have to like book things in. I find that like people are a lot less spontaneous than me because they don't have the same life setups as I do where like things just change on on a whim. I have to like really be planned things. And I'm very bad at that. But I know you've been spending a lot of time, well, more time with your friends with kids recently, you said? No, I just like have offered my services as, as, you know, like somebody. I just love kids. Yeah. I want to, like, help my friends who are parents by looking after their kids.

Yeah. I have to, like, meet half of these fucking babies that have arrived. Like, there's so many new babies in the family right now. And, yeah, I have to be like, I'm good. But I think, I don't know whether that changes, because I think, like, routine and rhythm, in a friendship always will change. But if you have chemistry, it doesn't matter. Those things don't matter in the same way,

because it's just like stabilized. I hope that answered your question. Lonely Heart in Tumbridge Wells. I know you didn't say that, but it's quite nice to think of you. Like we're on some sort of Dr. Ruth special. Let's have another question for today's listen, bitch. The theme is chemistry, science or otherwise. Hey, Makita and Jordan.

Amber here from Melbourne, Australia. Chemistry. So I call it the trauma tingles. Like, is it actually chemistry or is it the trauma tingles where I'm just repeating old patterns and I meet someone and I'm like, oh, like you just feel it straight away. But actually, is it just me choosing old ways and things that I'm familiar with that ignite those old patterns? within myself of what I'm used to as well and the mistakes that I keep making and that have been linked quite deeply to my childhood as well. And then I've replayed them through romantic relationships later on as an adult. Amber, you've come to the right place. We and Jordan were actually talking about this in our personal time the other day.

Yes. Now, if only we knew the answer. If only it was just magical Disney chemistry and not just trillions. trauma response pattern building. You know what I mean? Like, wouldn't we like to believe that that's what it was? Now, I believe that I am now close to something news happened to me because I've obviously been trauma pattern repeating my whole life like we all do. But something news happened to me, which is if I am betraying myself at the moment,

I can't not hear it. And I used to be able to not hear it for like months, years. And now I could probably do a month. maybe two weeks of betraying myself, sometimes it's an hour. And I can't not hear the levels of betraying and I have to make rash decisions. Not rash, actually, quick decisions. Because living in betraying myself just makes me want to die. And I think that in a relationship, if you're seeing things that are new,

you have to trust in them. But it's more about are you feeling new? Like actually, a lot of chemistry can be about a feeling that you haven't already experienced. because you may think, oh, when I was with that guy, that was loads of chemistry. And it's like, then you might meet someone new and have all these new feelings and be like, actually, maybe this is chemistry.

Maybe that was the trauma shit. But maybe that's just convenient. What's the so? Can you explain to me the betrayal thing? Oh, right. Like, okay, so if I... So how does this play into her talking about the trauma tingles? If I was going out with someone now,

if I was dating someone and their behaviour was reminding me of old patterns from old relationships and old trauma, I wouldn't be able to hide from that anymore. And before I would have been able to and been like, yeah, it's just chemistry. I like him and he makes me chase him and did it. Now I know that I would be betraying myself and I would have to stop and leave. So it's the betrayal of self that can pull you away from falling into the patterns? Yeah, because in the old days I could continue to betray myself and stay in the old patterns

and now I can't do it. It's too loud. You're betraying yourself. You're betraying yourself. And then I just have to leave. Which is different to the Makita who spoke about this three weeks ago. He said that. What do you mean?

We must leave space in the meeting of people for magic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is magic comes from... What is the magic? Well, for me, it's feeling different. Before I'd be like, I feel like when I met blah, blah, blah, that means I must be falling in love. This, like, new things are feeling very different to me.

And that for me means that something extraordinary is happening when it comes to, like, chemistry, rather than like, oh, this just feels like what I thought chemistry was. Does that make sense? Yes, it does, I think. I think that what I find interesting is the idea of familiarity, right? Yeah. You hear a lot people saying, I met this person,

but it feels as though I've known them for a long time. Oh, don't shit on that, Jordan. What do you mean? Because I really love that saying and that feeling. I feel like you're going to tear it down. I'm not tearing it down. I'm just saying that, like, the, well, here's something. that you're like, obviously the etymology of familiarity.

No, I don't know it. Family. Familiar. Yeah, got it. Yes. And so, you know, aside of some, a few cases where, you know, you could read into there being some kind of, you know, spiritual soul connection and something I'm definitely open to, there is also like a more pragmatic reality that a person has reconnected with

familiarities within how they were treated by their first primary caregiver, which will be their mum or dad. And sometimes that can be traumatic because we haven't brought into consciousness the damage that that thing had done or we have like read it as something else, you know, so which is why it's actually important to have relationships with people, whether it's so well-wind or not, because even if it is something that ultimately won't serve you, it's an opportunity of you to be able to heal the part of you that attracted them in the first place. Yeah, that's very good. You shouldn't avoid those things, you know?

It's like every opportunity. It's every, every problem is an opportunity. If you're feeling you're healing, you know. Is it? If you're feeling, you're healing. Yeah. We're so scared of feeling, though, aren't we? Those shocking things, those like, whoa, moments are, like, even if you were to take the most extreme form of it, which is like codependency, yeah?

Like addicts often fall into whirlwind things together because, you know, there's a form of codependency that's harder to track because it's not a literal drug that you're taking, it's a drug feeling that's been elicited by someone's presence. That's also an opportunity for people to work through that feeling. Yeah, I'm just thinking now also with past relationships in my life or like men in my life, I'm actually thinking now, the reason I ever like ever date anyone or like anyone is because there probably is fucking chemistry, but that's got nothing to do with the people treat each other just because there's chemistry doesn't mean you're going to look after each other and each other's hearts yeah you know what i'm i'm still i'm still a little bit confused because um

the attraction thing like the the i think this is a big difference between lust and and love you know like i i really feel like love is ultimately like an agreement based off of shared value and connection yeah connection yeah connection and and you Yeah, quality. There's quality of time spent and this kind of thing. I think it's not an involuntary thing. It's very conscious and voluntary. Yeah.

What do you think about the idea of when people say that they feel like they, when someone else feels like home? I think it would be an issue if the person said that within three months. I think if somebody said that after four years, I'd be like, yeah, fuck yeah. Yes. You've earned the right to say that. Yes, but I think what people are in that, then I think this goes into. a familiar family, familial thing.

Because what people like to say is that they've met someone and they immediately felt like home. Because as I said, I think I've said this on the love episode. That's how I felt about Tall Phoebe when I first met her. I was just like, oh, you're home. I'm home. And that is actually a chemistry and friendship I should talk about as well. Like, I have a lot of friends that I knew immediately

I was going to love them and they were going to be in my life forever. I just had met someone like that the other day, actually. Wow. It feels good, right? Yeah. I mean, it was, I don't know what was going to happen, but like, we're both doing this campaign for Dr. Martins, but we didn't actually meet. We didn't meet because of that. We were performing at the same festival. She's actually a lot younger than me. She's like, how old is she, like, 22? Yeah, she's 12 young. She's called Rachel. She was like, hey, I'm doing the same campaign as you. And I was like, oh, yeah, cool. And then we sat down and chilled and we were chatting. And then somebody on the table was like, how long have you guys known each other? It was like, I literally just met her. And they were like, that's fucking crazy. I love that. And they're like, that's fucking crazy. I love that. And I was like, it actually is crazy.

She felt like my little sister. Like, it felt like I had known this person for like a long time. But it was just, I think it was in truth, if I was to try and be like painfully cynical, I think we just had like, again, like similar sense of humour, like a similar interest in the world and a similar like set of values in that specific moment. Yeah, I was going to say, babe,

that is what I was trying to say when I was bringing up the science of chemistry. It's like throughout this process, things are made. You know, so the process of spending time, that time, at that moment, in the world, together. I think this will land my point, right? This is it will land the point. So I don't think,

another thing to bring the chemistry into reality rather than magicalness, right, especially with attraction, is the point of, like, doing the work in inverted comments, the point of integrating our shadows, looking back at our emotional patterns, and like making clear what it is that we think we want from a long,

standing connection or whatever else in our lives, the point of doing that is we're changing our own chemistry. We're shifting our own vibrations and frequency. So with that being said, you could literally meet a person now and not have chemistry and you could meet them three years into therapy and it would be the most incredible connection. That's literally what I'm experiencing. Right. So I'll just be clear that it's like there's, that's voluntary. That's not just like the home, I'm just saying the home thing is like, the home thing is, oh, it's just where you're at at that moment. Yeah, you're so fucking right because I think that is part of it. It's like you might have met Rachel six months ago and you would have thought, sweet kid, anyway.

Do you know what I mean? It's like because of where you're at at exactly that time at that moment in the universe where you've both arrived to whatever your days look like to get to that moment, then there is a moment of chemical kind of something. and that is chemistry. Oh, I love that. Fuck, yeah. But can you see how that starts to just take apart the story slightly? Yes, I do.

Yes, Jordan, I do. Because if people were like, we were meant to meet, then it's like, no, you worked on yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And landed in each other's lives at a time in which it benefited the both of you. But you could have made different decisions

and then this was not... Sliding doors. Sliding doors. Let's have another. the question for this week's lesson, bitch. Hello Jordan and Makita. My name's Mel and I live in Essex, in Chelmsford, and I'm a gardener. I feel a lot of chemistry with a lot of people and I always have. And it's been interesting over the years to observe myself in situations of the feeling of chemistry with others. Is it a look in the eye, a feeling of just, you know, understanding,

each other, is it me that is passing on my energy to them? And then it's being reflected back to me because of me. Someone did tell me that. Yes, my question is, do you think that chemistry, it comes from you and it's being reflected back by someone else? Yeah, that's what Phoebe says every time she breaks up with someone. She's like, actually they weren't magic. It was my magic on them being reflected back at me. And I was like, yeah, probably 60%. Yeah, that happens. So Mel is really right, Jordan. And that's why I have this,

which is, it's called Newton's Cradle. And it was actually designed by my friend Jesse, you know, Jesse, his dad, Richard Longcray, an incredible film director, but also, I didn't know, spent the whole 60s to the 90s creating these executive toys that suddenly were everywhere in the world.

Do you remember these? Yeah. Right. And I'm actually, he's written a book with his partner about the journey of their company, and I'm going to put it in the Miss Me Library for Patreon later. But this is to reflect Newton's third law of motion, right? Which is for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

That's not do one to others as you would undo to yourself. That's not be kind, people be kind back to you. It's literally, as kind as you are, that is how kind people will be back to you. whatever you put out is coming back to you times two. It's not even a nice thing to say. It's a law. It's a metaphysical law.

So that's why it's very important how you carry yourself in the world and how much you understand that everything's a mirror. Everything's a mirror. Not because I'm talking to the emotional part of you. I'm talking about the metaphysics of the universe. That is how things work. So yes, you're beautiful. Beautiful chemistry is bouncing back at you because you do such wonderful work in this world.

And you're a good person. So good for you, Mel. I love metaphysics. That's something I would study in my own time. Yeah. It's interesting though as well because I feel like you can really get lost in the idea. When you were saying that if you're kind, we get kindness back, it's like, yes, it can. It can sometimes be more complex than that.

But I think, largely speaking, it's true. Which is why I always try and advocate for connection. because we live in a world where we're very much pushed into perpetual separation and we end up creating the situations that we are annoyed about rather than doing the hard thing and opposing the thing that upset us. But anyway, that's probably another different conversation. The other thing I was going to say off of what you said about Phoebe as well is, have you ever, this is something I think trips me out,

but have you ever, when's the last time you just stared at someone, when looked at someone in the eyes for like an extended period of time? Probably last Sunday on a train. Really? How long we're talking? However long it takes to get back from Margate. You looked at someone in the eyes for like an hour and ten minutes? Yeah. Without breaking contact?

Well, we were having a conversation opposite to each other. That's really powerful if you did genuinely do that. I found that. It was a big conversation. If you look someone, especially someone who don't know in the eyes for long enough, to be honest, probably without saying anything, it's quite a spiritual experience. It's really trippy. I bet it fucking is.

You start to see more, you start to see a person. Oh, yeah. As more than what they're presenting. And then I think you go into this like other fucking space where you become merged. Was it you that I was talking to about this the other day where we were talking about it's crazy how, no, it wasn't, it was Seb, actually.

It's crazy how someone's eyes never change. And I was looking at my 97-year-old Uncle John's eyes the other day and I thought these could be the eyes of a dancing 26-year-old man. Yeah. And I think they are, they do say it's the window to yourself. It's one of the, like some people who do tantra therapy. I watched this TikTok with this woman who did tantra therapy and she walked into this woman's office

and the woman just looked at her and she looked at her in silence. And then she looked at her for so long that the woman just burst into tears. Oh my God. And then she said, okay, I'll see you next week. Session done. Yeah.

Wow. You know what would be, you know what would be good as well, Jay? To look. I've had that before, by the way. In the mirror in your own eyes. No, it's different. Is it? Yes, it's different. Because it is a mirrored reflection.

Yeah, it's another human. No, but I'm just saying, what would it do for a person to look at themselves in the eyes for a prolonged amount of time? I don't know. I've never done it. I think I'll do it today. I'll let you know how it goes. I think I feel like mirrors are, I actually don't know enough, but I don't think that mirrors have, they're not seen positively. I know what you mean. From a spiritual perspective.

Well, it's difficult. Like feng shui would like, doesn't like mirrors. Yes, but in like ancient Buddhism, they say that the work you do on your soul is the polishing of your mirror. Yeah, outwards. I'll go to a lake. The argument is the less you look at yourself, the more you see yourself in other people.

The less you look at yourself, the more you see yourself in other people. Ooh. And then we're all empaths. Yeah. And just doing great things for each other. Okay. Next question.

Hi, Jordan and Makita. For this week's theme on chemistry, my question is, if you could bottle chemistry between you and another person, what would it smell like? For me, I think it would be anticipation, which I reckon would smell a bit like a jalapeno, that's slow burn. and then I reckon maybe a bit of tonker for comfort and then maybe I'd want to learn something so maybe something fresh like strawberry.

Anyway, let me know what you think. Have a good week. Bye. That's amazing. What I love about this question is this is the challenge of a writer, right? For me, she is touching on like this is literally the reason I love writing. Like how can you find a way to describe a feeling that other people would understand

but it hasn't necessarily been described like that before. Obviously, that's not going to happen all of the time. There's a line in my book, I don't know if it's wanky to quote myself, but there's a line in my book where I talk about writing a letter to my dad and I say, if I could drink the silence between you and I, it would taste fizzy when it shouldn't. That's the line. Oh, very good.

But I was proud of that because, it's just pushes, it's the idea that, you know, like if you leave a fruit juice for too long, it's fizzes. No, I know exactly. That's why it's good, because I got it immediately. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't meaning to over-experine that, I think.

But, like, I think my point is there's something about that, that, you know, that's what I look for in writing. I'm not saying, you know, that's, you know, I'm proud of that line because it would be reflective of the type of writing that I get absolutely, you know, besotter. by, yeah, so this is what she's asking. She's saying, she's saying, if I was to begin another line describing the chemistry I had another person, what sensory feeling would I want to accompany that description? And that's really, it's hard to do, but like, I think we have to just be brave enough to just, to say what the fuck that is, you know, what's your favorite smell?

I'm scared. Like, okay, okay, you know what, I want to, maybe it might help. Because what I want to say, feels too like the sex thing in American pie like I want to say that to bottle the chemistry I have with someone would be like warm apple pie but that's what wow wow that's I mean that would taste great

see I feel because I suddenly feel very seen at least most you were like oh right wow yeah that would taste good If I could bottle, so you'd be like, if I could bottle, our chemistry. And what is that, but what word would you use to describe it as well? So, like, what is that that you're bottling? What is the warm apple pie?

Is it like, is it the feeling when you're there? Or was it the feeling before you get there? Is it the feeling after you've seen them? Is it the feeling? Yeah, I suppose it's, um, it's when you're with them. Oh, right. I was about to do the pie.

You're talking about the person now. Yeah, suppose the presence of the, them. The presence. So if you could bottle the taste of the presence I experience in your company, it would be akin to the warmth of an apple pie. Yeah, whoa. That's quite deep. Describe the apple pie. You know. Is it homemade? Yeah, of course it is. And it's like got steam coming out of it. It's like the apple pie you'd get in like a Janet and Alan. Yes, like in a Janet and Alan Alberg book. fucking icons. Like each peach pear plum.

That kind of vibe. Like that. Like, you know, there's always like a pie in the window. What does it taste like? You're going to laugh at me. Why? I've not laughed at you once. Okay.

It tastes like home. Right. So this is what I thought was interesting was, no, but Keith. It tastes familiar. It tastes like home, but you've also referenced an apple pie that you saw as a child.

I know. I'm very aware of what's happening here. doctor doctor Stevens I get it I'm not a doctor fuck that shit no you're fucking not

but you've got a bloody good point yeah I mean how can it not be mixed up you know how can it all not be mixed up in one bloody

heady mixed ball of chemistry between what made you happy as a child what made you feel safe what makes you feel loved and turned on now what makes you feel

excited and anticipatory of life and adventure like it's all fucking one big ball Can I ask one question? When you say home, yeah, is the feeling of home, is it calm? Yes, very much so. Peace. You just, does it feel like your nervous system is calm? Or do you feel like literally, like, genuinely relaxed?

Yeah, but I don't think I should talk about this anymore. That's actually really good. Yeah, no, I know. If your association with home is your nervous system being relaxed, that's really promising. It's more like... Because ultimately I think that's where people get confused, right? Is when people are leaning into something familiar at the expense of their ability to be relaxed because they're overthinking like when the person's texting

or when they're going to call or when should I call or when am I going to see them. Those are all the things where I feel someone gets taken out of their character and that's not homely. They convince themselves that it is. Yeah, and that's what I used to think was chemistry. Like, I've met someone I really like. I'm terrified and I'm really worried they're never going to call.

we again and they're going to dump me out of a minute. Yeah, no. No, it shouldn't be that. It's not chemistry. Well, that's great then if that's not what you're feeling. I'm very happy for you. Final question. Yeah, yeah, I'm reading this as a text. I'd love to know what's your favorite chemical element, minus helium.

What the fuck? Okay, so now we get to talk about my favorite, the periodic table. So, obviously science, not obviously, but science is science, right? right in primary school. Secondary school, I actually hear it's year nine when it becomes biology, chemistry and physics. Yeah? It's not right. You remember this, right? You went to more school than I did. Help me out here. Yeah, I was just trying to think, I can't remember there being physics, weirdly. From one bunker to another when do you remember studying three types of science? Chemistry, physics and biology. I remember doing additional science. Okay. That's not. As a, as a,

a GCSE. Oh, right. So you definitely would have got into the separation, I imagine. So anyway, this is when I started bunking a lot of school and changing schools a lot around like 13, 14, 15. So I really didn't study that much. I wasn't in the school flow. And I remember learning about the periodic table a lot later than others around like 17, 18 or something. And everyone was like, how do you not know your periodic table? And I've always been really ashamed. that I don't know what's on the motherfucking periodic table. And I'd love to know. So my question to you, Jordan, is how much do you know?

And should I be so ashamed? What, that you don't know much of the periodic table? Yeah. No? Why would you be ashamed about that? Because I feel like it's kind of base knowledge. Base knowledge. I think I could probably remember, like, maybe five.

Let's test you. Yeah, give me an element. I'll try and give you the... I don't you think it's amazing? It's a table of elements. Don't you just think that's... kind of amazing. Okay.

What's AI on the periodic table? AI. No, do you know what? I think it's AL. Okay, let's not do that one. It was aluminium. Am I right in saying AU is gold? Let me look.

Gold. A.U. Gold. Yes, babes. Okay, God, you're so clever. All right, we'll just do one more. I didn't get aluminium. That's supposed to be a basic one. Let's just do one more.

MN. MN. It's in the transition. God, this is so interesting. Sorry, can we just say, these categories of the periodic table because I'm just fascinated now so there's alkali metal

alkaline earth transition metal basic metal semi metal and non-metal halogen noble gas lanthanide and actinide god I feel like I know nothing about the world that we live in that's just like I mean

no but you don't need to know that because you're not a chemist no but babe I like knowing that there are these elements in the world that make up things Yeah, which is good that you have that feeling. MN, I don't know. In my head, I'm just like magnesium nitrate, but I don't know. I'm just making that out.

What? Correct. What? That's what it is. Oh, no, it's manganese. I'm sorry. Our producer is just talking to us as well. We were worried she knew her periodic table of my heart.

So is this not something that everyone just knows unless they study chemistry? No, you know it at the time in school because it's just a memory test. So you just like remember the periodic table and then you don't use it because you don't need to. Yeah, but don't you need to? Like, I'm sure this will come up in life.

No. Yes, it will, surely. No. Like, the difference between, well, just knowing what halogen is and what it can create and where it comes from and what magnesium is and what it can create and where it comes from. Yeah, I mean, it would be great if we could retain all of the information of like the, you know, the substance of the planet. But I think it's mostly important to people who want to pursue a career in chemistry. I think I'm going to stop being a broadcaster and I'm going to go back to school.

Okay. I think that's what I want to do. This stuff makes me happy. Like I could sit and learn about the periodic table for months and feel really fulfilled. Yeah. But if I need to earn money, I'd have to become a chemist is what you're saying. No, I mean, like I'm looking at the periodic table now.

It's cool to revisit it. Yeah, I bet it is. And, you know, you get to see all the things that make up everything. You know, it's got hydrogen, car. All the things that make up everything. See, I just think that's so much bigger than really just the table of elements. Like it's kind of everything all at once, isn't it?

Uranium. Yeah. Fuck yeah. All right, well, we could dance in this all day, but let's save this for our Christmas party games. Thank you, chemistry. The theme for next week, this bitch, I'm picking it. I'd like to do death.

Sure. I've not done that yet. I love death. We've never done death. And I want to talk about it. People are scared to talk about death. We shouldn't be scared. My cousin Sullivan said we spend 15 seconds a day thinking about our own death and true peace will arrive. So why don't we do 45 minutes of it? Who knows how much peace we'll find?

And we may find peace together, world. So your questions on death would be wonderful. All right. Thank you, Jordan. It's been wonderful getting to know you today. Yeah, see you later. See you next week. Thanks for listening to Miss Me.

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