Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! Everything is an Invitation

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

Miquita Oliver and Jordan Stephens answer your questions about invitations.Producer: Natalie JamiesonTechnical Producer: Jasper Fell-ClarkeAssistant Producer: Caillin McDaid Video Editor: Danny PapeProduction Coordinator: Tom JacksonExecutive Producers: Ellie Clifford & Dino SofosMiss Me? is a Persephonica show Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I mean, I think FOMO's on crack right now because of social media. We were there on our phone, not talking to each other, jealously looking through the stories all night we did it. You sat looking at the party. I hate post so much. What, mail? Yeah, I really hate it. It really stresses me out.

Yeah, me too. Especially brown letters. Like, yeah, it gives me like panic attacks. And let's remember Mabel's wedding was at the V&A. It was like quite a spectacle. Which I didn't get invited to. Okay. Occasionally, certain people will slip through the cracks.

I'm a crack slipper. The whole family were there. We had such a good time. I watched it on Insta Stories. There you. Ashley did. Well, hello. Our Miss Me Lovelies, welcome to,

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No, I love that in a free Miss me space. I really like that. We're talking about invitations this week. That's going to be interesting. So bring on the first question. Wait, the theme for this week's Listen Bitch is... Oh, sorry. Oh, you do actually like that. You want to be more formatted in this space. Just that bit. I really like. Invitations. Invitations. Right, right, right, right. Got you. I'm here. I'm ready. I am very professional.

Invite me. Invite us. Invite us into your first question, please. Hello, Jordan, Mikita. I hope you're doing well and that everything is going splendidly in you guys' lives. Yeah, I have been a fan of your podcast since last year, even before Jordan was a regular. I wanted to express something about invitations. The thing that annoys me, right, is the people who don't invite you to a hangout, and it's fine. You don't invite me to hang out. I don't need to be in every single hangout that you have. But the people who don't invite you to a hangout, and then they come, and they start talking about the hangout with each other in front of you.

And they start saying, like, oh, my God, we had so much fun. And we did this and we did that. And we went here and we went there. And they started embracing the hangout as if it was the most magical. thing they had. I think that's very rude, especially if the people who went to the hangout, you usually hang out with them and now it's like it's the first hangout that you didn't go to. So yeah, that's my thing with invitations. So yeah, thank you guys. Thank you. You fucking meant that. Yeah. And he's not wrong.

Nah, uh, well, I guess it taps into FOMO, the fear of missing out, which is surely had another word, Had another name before that acronym. I mean, I think FOMO's on crack right now because of social media. Like, I remember, I remember being at home one time in bed and I got on my social media. I remember this is when stories first started on Instagram. Yeah, stories fuck shit. And I like went on stories and I was like, rah, that was my friend's birthday that I like forgot to go to and everyone's having loads of fun. And I'm like, how am I in the present torturing myself with the past?

It doesn't even exist. No, but that was interesting. That I remember stories changed FOMO. Right. Like, I'm not there. Like, why am I looking at something I wasn't there for? A grid was always like retrospectively looking back at a party the night before. Fine.

But stories was like, this is happening right now and you're not there. Oh, it did happen and you're watching it. And it tells you how long ago it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like eight hours ago, you could have been here. Yeah, eight hours ago, this is how much fun was being had. And then I remember. I remember where I acutely felt this for the first time.

I was living with Tan and Jimmy and Camden and it was Daisy Lowe's birthday. And me and Tam were like, not going. And then we're like, should we just go? And we're like, no, fuck it, let's not go. And then suddenly we were there on our phone, like we were at the party, not talking to each other, jealously looking through the stories all night we did it. So you didn't go to the party? We didn't go.

And you sat looking at the party. Someone's posting the party and then we were in it all night, hating everyone. And I was like, this could become an existential issue. Yeah. And it did. Yeah. I think that's like a whole other level, you know. I think sometimes you just, sometimes you just forget.

Sometimes you just forget and sometimes, you know, like, the person doesn't call you at the right time or... But this person's saying, this person is saying it really cuts somewhere else when they're like, oh my God, last night, right? That was so good. Sorry, Stephen, you weren't there, but whoa. Yeah. I think that's too much. Keep it down. It annoys me.

Like, that was literally such an epic part of going sober. That was, I had to live through like maybe two years of that. Oh. Because at the beginning, I didn't want to really be around people getting wasted all the time. I'm fine now. But at the beginning, I didn't want to be. So I would, but I realized quickly like, damn, like, there's like a whole bunch of people that I just don't see anymore because they're always drinking with each other.

Or like the way in which they're bonding is through annihilation, you know? But surely that's one of the most fiery parts. of sobriety. I remember Nana said to me, yeah, I definitely worry that I'm boring now. Yeah. But I'm at peace. Yeah. Well, it depends what we consider it to be boring. I think one of the best things to come out of it for me was it kind of was almost acted as a filter for people who had genuine connections with. Yeah, of course. The people who I connected to only through annihilation, they've left my life. And the people who I had some kind of relationship with that, that was deeper than that, I would just see in a different context.

Thanks for keeping me in. Yeah. And that was actually ended up, this ended up like really solidifying a lot of friendships. And then also the other thing I will say is that if I'm in that environment and I've missed out on something and I actually haven't invited me, like I can't, I made, I've made a decision to myself having, I'm someone who used to spiral quite a lot as to whether or not like, I don't know, I felt liked or loved or whatever, like some kind of codependency or people pleasing and I'm a lot better now.

And I just think to myself, like, if I wasn't invited, I weren't meant to be there. That's it. Life goes on. Exactly. So that's actually probably the advice we'd give. Or I'd just say it to them. Like, stop fucking going on about it. I wasn't there, you dickheads. There you go.

Ah, beautifully put. Let's have another question. Hello, Miss me podcast. Big up. Listen, bitch. The theme is invitations. I'm going to keep it simple. Whatever happened to paper invitations for your 10th birthday party

where you send out envelopes to your bowling party. and the parents would have to just R-SVP, yes, my child is going to be there. Now it's all on Facebook. Oh, yeah. Yes, no, maybe, I don't know, we'll see. You know, and it's all in vain. There's no structure anymore.

What happened to paper invitations? Riddle me that. Riddle me that. Riddle me that is absolutely diabolical. No, it's not. I love riddle me that. I think let's riddle this. I love it.

Ridle me that, bitch. That's such a good saying. I love riddle me this. Riddle me that. Yeah, I remember it's like dot, dot, dot, in it? It's like, I remember he's so right. God, I remember me like a pink one when I was like maybe eight. And it was like, Annie's having eight.

And then they'd write in bowling party and then can. And then you write, Nikita come. What is this? What is that? What is that? They're doing? A paper invite as a kid. And a lot of the times it would be like themed to what they were doing.

Oh, right. Charlie's having a roller skating. party or whatever laser tag and then you'd like write your name in and say yes I'm coming so this guy's saying that because it's online you just mess it up the soul's gone the struck the kind of I'm saying I think maybe the special nature of being invited to something and and also preparing and anticipating for this thing you're going to you I mean that's isn't that half the fun of an invite once it arrives you then start to think about how it might be this thing that you've been invited to I don't know man I can't really remember that shit there's a there's a new ever

version of it that helps. There's like an app called party something. And then if you do it through that, then not only do people have to RSVP and then they see and then that you can speak to all of them, but you can also update details. And also it will send reminders to the people prior to the event so that they remember to go. Yeah, isn't this just thinking of me, Bob? I did this for my 40th. What's it called? Party for? Is that what it is? Paperless post? No, that's not what I was talking about, but yeah. I love all these things. And then it like comes in like, like you get the email, but then the envelope kind of opens and the invite comes out. I quite like that.

It's like 3D and visual. And you can keep track of everything, blah, blah, blah. But I think it's interesting what an invite does as well. Sorry, sir, to not talk about the old paper invites, but I do feel you. But just to extend that, what does an invite really do? It creates expectation. And as we know from the painful, I think we've discussed it, painful scene in 500 days of summer, God, don't you remember the scene where

he hasn't seen her in a while and then she invites him to a party at her house and then the screen splits into his expectation of the night and then what actually happens? I just remember the screen split after they had sex. It is heartbreaking. It makes you never want to have an expectation again in your life. He like gets there and she sort of sees him

and she's like, come here and be there and me and then it gets touch your feeling. Reality she's fucking engaged to someone else. It is real. Horrendous. So I think expectations is an interesting thing It's like when lockdown happened, I remember the flatmate I was living with, who was being particularly down every day.

And I was like, look, we need to put this up. And she was like, I just feel like there's nothing to look forward to. And I thought that's what's happening in the world right now. Everyone suddenly got nothing to look forward to. And it was the most exciting part of life coming back. Let's make plans. Let's invite people to things. So I think the point of an invite is to create that bubble of expectation.

Just be careful to also let the magic in let life surprise you. I hate post so much. What, mail? Yeah, I really hate it. It really stresses me out. Yeah, well, I went bankrupt. I fucking hate mail. Yeah, it gives me like panic attacks.

Yeah, me too. Especially brown letters. Brown letters can fuck off, mate. Like how many more speeding tickets can a person get? Do you know what I mean? In conclusion, I don't miss those invites. Okay, do you want to ask for the next question, bye? Next question, please.

Hi, Makita and Jordan. Steve from Coventria, love the show, and the fluid transition to J.B. a permanent host. Loving these people today. So invitations, what do we think to a wedding invitation that is evening only guest? Oh shit. If you still expect to travel and pay for accommodation, etc.

Are you just being invited for numbers for the party? Or what do you think? Are you going or not? 100% I'm going. Stephen in Coventry, that's a great, great question. You'd go. Yeah, of course. Yeah.

Party for love? Oh, yeah. Great. I don't understand. What do you mean? Is it like a slight to not have to sit there and do the vows and that? Well, it's not, it's just that if you are inclined to believe in the hierarchy, possible hierarchy of friendship, then you might be like, I'm a lunch guest. I'm not just a party guest.

I just like so don't care. Oh, yeah, okay. I just really don't care. Unless it was someone like super close to me, that would just be mad, isn't it? Like if someone was like, one of my best friends, know, like, you're not coming. Yeah, but if it was like... That toddler and nanny, I went to this. their party. And you went to just the party and not the wedding you bit. And you were like,

let's go. Let's celebrate love. Yeah. To be fair, I were a lot closer to both of them now. But like, it was like, yeah, I want to go to that party. That's true. At Mabel's wedding. Which I didn't get invited to. Speaking of invites, did you not get invited to the family wedding? Unbelievable. So, at Mabel's wedding, she had this shit hot. You best believe, what was her name, Shenai, shit hot wedding planet. This woman did not. fuck around. Let's remember Mabel's wedding was at the V&A.

It was quite a spectacle. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to do what question one hated. The whole family were there. We had such a good time. It was beautiful. It was actually really magical.

I forgett it on Instagram. I actually did. Fuck. What the fuck? So, yeah, anyway, she didn't even miss a trick, but it just happened where the speeches went on longer.

and the dinner went on longer and the party people came and the space wasn't really ready for that and they sort of had to stand on the edges and let the dinnery bit finish and there was a bit of a like, oh, I've just been invited to this. So I think what you need to do is make sure

all those transitions go really well so that no one's like, oh, I'm just a lunch guest. It's like, no, no, this is the blah, blah. It's really, like I say, getting a wedding right is a toughie, literally. It can, like, But I've been to some fucking brilliant weddings, man. Simon Jones had an amazing wedding, the PR.

Flynn had an incredible wedding, which you didn't turn up to. It's like, it's honestly, I've been to some phenomenal, like, and that was great because you're all out anyway. Well, Simons was in London, but Flynn's one was in Spain, I think. Spain, yeah. So, like, you had to go, and then you've already kind of like, I don't think people feel slighted about not going to that because it's like you're making a choice to go to another country anyway.

Well, do you know what I would say about our massive family trust? actually when it comes to things like invites, there are so many of us and there are so many things going on that occasionally you'll miss a wedding, you won't be invited to a wedding. I didn't miss it. I wasn't invited.

Occasionally, certain people will slip through the cracks. Yeah, it's fine. I'm a crack slipper. Yeah, man. Weddings are expensive. I went to a wedding in Jamaica where during the, during the vows, they were still building the

they were still building the place we were meant to go and eat after. So Jamaican. It was so Jamaican. I can't even express you how Jamaican it was like, I'd be done, yeah, it'd be done. Yeah, yeah. It was like to the final second.

It's like, the restaurant's ready now. It's actually just been built. Can you imagine the stress, by the way, going through that, the people organising that wedding? Yeah, but if you're going to get married in Caribbean, you've got to get a little bit comsey, cumsa, like, flow. Listen, if I'm getting married in Jamaica, make her respectfully, I'm telling them that the marriage is two days before it is.

That's how you do it. Respectfully, I'm saying it's on the 20th and everyone's getting on 22nd. And I'll be like, oh, sorry, I got the dates wrong. Well, thank God it's built. Yeah, respectfully, that may work out quite well. Let's go to a break, actually. And then after the break, I shall read you a message that's via text. Oh, God, I'm on the edge of my seat, Jordan.

Welcome back to listen, bitch. Okay, can I ask you quickly before we do this next thing? What? Do you enjoy doing invites? What do you mean? I'm actually so, oh my God, I'm so bad at this. This actually gives me anxiety even thinking about it. Like, if you have to invite people to your birthday,

is that an enjoyable experience for you? No. Why is it not enjoyable? Because I feel beggy. Wow. Yeah, that's because I don't know how to ask for what I need. I feel not beggy, in constant fear that I've forgotten to invite someone really important, and that's happened nearly every year of my birthday.

Yeah, I just didn't. that this birthday. So many uncles were like, oh, okay. I was like, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. There's too many people in this fucking tribe. That's actually a difficult one in this world as well of our family because if you want to have something small, like a small thing, you've got to be really careful who you invite. Because if you invite, if you invite one auntie, you're unlocking about seven others. Oh, you have to be tactical with it. 100% madness. It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. I, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've got to got better recently, and I said this before I missed me, but it's a good opportunity again,

is that, like, McKenzie was the person who really shifted my outlook on birthdays, because I was never really a birthday person before. And I am now just internally grateful for literally anyone who turns up on the day because I've connected and linked with people who were important to me in that moment. And then we can then just spread back out again. I think it's such a good time to see people because, you know, like, God forbid, something happens to someone. Absolutely fucking, you were so sweet at your birthday party this year. You were genuinely so happy to see everyone.

Even me. I was like, I saw you like two days go for work, but you were very happy that was there. I love it when people turn up. Yeah, you were really like, you made whoever turned up to the party feel really like, really happy I left the house for this. Oh, good. I'm glad you said that. That's good.

It really does mean a lot to me. And like, again, like if people are too busy and whatever else, then that's fine too. I'm not, I don't really have many expectations with my birthday. I just enjoy there being a thing for people to tell you. up to you. That's probably why you have such a good time. If I hark back to the 500 days of summer, be careful with expectation. Well, actually, I did have one situation where I had one amazing birthday and it got me

so excited that for the next year I tried to make it bigger and then half the people turned up. And I was like, that's just always the way. Exactly. All right. Are you doing a text? Yeah. So here it is.

Whoever makes or initiates the invitation should be willing and able to pay in full for all invitees. What? Exceptions only if discussed. and agreed on by all participants at least two business days in advance of the event. Okay, this is interesting because I did a dinner for my birthday and you know what I was like, what I historically am like with money. I'll get it, I'll get it. And I felt, that's why I hate inviting people because I felt really uncomfortable

asking people to pay for the dinner. And my mom had to really sit me down and like, Makita, you shouldn't pay for everyone's dinner on your birthday. Like, it's okay to ask people for this money. And I had to really get over that. And then since then, that was April. Since then, I've had like four different things, like the wedding, Kieran's 40th, you know, baby shower.

And I've had to pay money, did it. And I don't think twice about it. Yeah. I expect that to be there to be some contribution. Although, actually, I'm saying that. And I actually did just like fork out for much of the food, to be fair. I just remembered I had one before where I did just paid like thousands, actually. Yeah, no, usually I just go, oh, well, just all the food's free and all the drinks are free.

because I don't want anything to be weird. And it's like, no, no, Jordan. We don't need to do that. I did do that. People are more than happy. Not anymore. Well, I got that last one sponsored. There you go.

Which was dreamy. That was actually mad dreamy. I couldn't believe it, actually. I literally got like paid to do a birthday. It was fucking amazing. Why haven't I sponsored all my birthdays? They were so cool. I want to do it again with them next year.

It was so good. Yeah, you can save their name. I'm not on the BBC anymore. It was beer. Zero percent. The zero percent beer people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've gone to birthdays and paid.

You know, it's very much about being there. That's really the idea. And also, I actually try and make an effort to pay for the birthday person. Well, and now we're talking. Now we're cooking birthday. I did that at my cousin's birthday in Rio. I offered to pay for... I can't remember what now.

Just some shit. Just put my card down, babe. Do you get me? Oh, just fucking spent it, you know what I mean? Did the fucking thing. But I've got to... I get Survivors' guilt, like, big time. especially nowadays.

What do you mean survivor's guilt? Like if I'm out with people who I, who don't earn as much money as me, I can't bring myself to not pay for things. Definitely, yeah. Yeah, we need to work on that. Do we though? Or is that just redistribution?

Sure, but then I worry it keeps certain people in a certain place. There are some people who don't like it and then I wouldn't force it. Yeah. Oh yeah, it's like a higher, right? Yeah, I've had that before actually. I've actually added with mainly,

obviously, with a couple of men. have been like really like offended that I've of course because of like pride or some shit I'm not it's not even about fucking pride I'm not even trying to flex brother I'm just trying to be a nice person doesn't matter it taps into shit with people of like what you think I can't get this yeah yeah like really I was like no bro pay for me if you want fucking whatever like floating tenor my mom calls it floating tenor I do do that but I feel like the energy is quite clear with that I don't stop someone if they're wanting to do I'm saying but like sometimes I just go and pay for it sneaky and then we'll just leave well we have this thing in the family

called the floating tenor and that's because everyone has been... Garfield still owes me that, by the way. Yeah, yeah. Garford's holding it at the moment and it has been for quite a while. But there's like these such extremes of poverty and wealth over the years in the family of people doing well, people doing terribly, people doing terribly. And there is just a general floating tenor energy which started when everyone had nothing in early eighties and it was literally like, Viv, you got that tenor, Nana, you got that tenor. And that energy pervays my family and I find that really...

beautiful and it means that we look after each other financially when we need to and when we can. I write that. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Let's have another question. For invites, because remember it's not just that invite, what about invitations from God? What about those invitations? Well, a metaphysical. Yeah. When you're in pain and you go, oh, maybe this is an invitation. I love it. I really like that. Sounds much like Donna, like my mental donna. She talks about having a golden ticket. Absolutely. I really hope that someone,

takes it to a spiritual place. Let's see, shall we? This is the final question, by the way. Final question then on today's listen, bitch. Hi, Jordan and Makita. It's Amy from Dorset. Absolutely love the podcast. I've been listening to Miss Me since day one. I actually don't think I've ever missed an episode. Jeez, thanks, dude. So on the topic of invitations, I just want to know,

have you ever received an invitation that has changed the trajectory of your life? I'd love to know. Thanks, bye. Oh my God. Amy and Dorset, rip us open while, don't you? This year. There's been quite a lot of difficult things that I've been going through, and I have been actively able and willing to change my perspective on life happening to you and actually happening through you and using everything that's happened as an invitation to a bigger question. There's this guy called Michael. Beckwith, who I've been reading his teachings. And he says, like, anytime you're in pain,

the pain is the small questions. Why me? Why did this happen to me? It's not fair. Is it because I'm this? Is it because I did this? Bigger questions. What is this here to teach me? Where are we going because of this? What massive portal is being kicked open because of said pain? Pain is a portal. Pain is a portal. That's that word to Donna. Oh, is that Donna? God, she's good. I mean, she says that a lot, yeah. God, pain is a portal, and I promise you, I have never known that until this year. And that was because I was willing to see said pain as an in the fucking tation. And now I say, thank you, pain.

Jesus, thank you, because now I have liberation, which only comes from thanking pain and the process of pain. Wow, it's been a heavy six months. I mean, clip that up. Stick that on my Keater's page. Do I mean? Do a little collab post? I agree. That's a fucking beautiful and like profound way of approaching invitation. And it does remind me of, so not only does Donna talk about pain being a portal,

but she also talks about, I remember I was going through a particular grief, the ending of a relationship. And in and around that, there was some shit that I didn't like in terms of just the way I was treated in a particular incident, right? and it pissed me off. And I remember calling her and I remember being like, yeah, I'm annoyed, but, you know, it's whatever.

I think I'm just going to say that it's fine and, you know, piece it up and then whatever. And she was like, look, you, she was saying this to me. Jordan, you have, clearly have an issue with anger. I clearly have an issue, not an issue with anger in the sense that I'm angry all the time, quite the opposite.

I like an issue that like I often swallow anger out of a fear of how, you know, because I think my fear is that I'd be angry with the person and they abandoned me. But in this particular incident, I hadn't even realized that, you know, I was betraying myself basically by not allowing myself to just feel angry about something. I didn't have to offer a forgiveness straight away, which was something that I felt like a knee-jerk reaction to do, was just to forgive because I'm a forgiving person. But forgiveness or being nice, should never be at the expense of the self, right? So she literally referred to it as a golden ticket. She said, this is your golden ticket to be able to sit

in your anger and just feel it and then hold a boundary and see how that feels. Like, why don't you utilize that? He said, she's actually, she's actually giving you an opportunity here to, to shift something in your life. And I did it. I went, okay, fuck it. You accepted the fucking invitation. I took the invitation and it completely solidified stuff I've spoken about on Missed Me before, especially around anger, because obviously we're always programmed to to believe that anger is just like a bad thing, a negative thing, a toxic thing, you know, but I've realised that a lot of that is rage. It's not anger. Anger in its true essence is very, very healthy, something that all the humans and people should, humans, human people.

Listen, you taught me. Engaged with, yeah, right. We spoke about anger so, so, so, so, so, like, but that was because of the invitation, that was, that was, I, I felt, I felt different going, no, actually. And then for two weeks, I was, I was really angry and then it's so, you what's so funny is. I remember the specific moment. I remember it so clearly because I was, I'd fallen into something called emotional addiction, which is really a lot harder to pick up on, where I became like kind of addicted to telling the story of my own, like, victimhood in this, in this one thing. I was like, look, this person is done. Look what this person's done. And it makes me like, yeah, that's awful. And I'm like, yeah. I think a lot of people can relate to that.

Right. And because you get like a kick of adrenaline of like re-traumatizing yourself. It's like it's really hard to pick up on. Anyway, I still do it now. But like I'd been doing that, doing that. And then I was brushing my teeth. And I remember looking in the mirror and I'd be like, my fucker, I've done this shit to so many people. Like the thing I was upset about. Oh. I was like, I've done this. I've done this. I've been, I've slighted many women in my past. Like, what am I angry about? Like, I actually completely understand what this person's doing.

And then I just didn't feel anger anymore. So maybe the anger was fear of oneself. Maybe you felt that you'd see it. No, no, no. I then placed the boundary. No, but I mean like maybe the anger is fear. It's not. It's not.

It fucking is. I don't think so. Oh, I really think anger is fear. Okay, I think emotions are based off of fear. Like when I'm angry with someone, it's because they've hurt me and made me feel scared of things, scared of myself, scared of what I can't have, scared of my worth. Yeah, but I can be angry with something that I'm not scared of. It's not scared of, it's fear.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I do think is something a bit different. I think, I agree with you, but I think... Maybe that's just me. No, no, no, it's not just you. You're right. All emotion is based off of an understanding of fear. Yes, because it's love or fear how you react.

There aren't other ways. But we also love because of fear, though. Oh, God, don't go to start. No, no, no, no, no, I'm being serious. No, no, the reason I'm saying this is because it's like, that's what separates us from people who are, like, sociopathic or whatever, where it's like, They are not experiencing the fear of like we build our emotional intelligence off of the understanding that our actions have implications. So we'll go, if I do this, I'm afraid of the fact that this person would feel this way. So I won't do it. That's like the social cohesion of emotion, right? Yeah. So I agree with you is what I'm saying. But I'm also saying that anger. Yeah. So that as the root for all emotion, obviously everything would be love will be like perhaps I'm scared of being alone or or I'm scared of. Or I'm scared of.

Love would be definitely more perhaps. Or I'm scared of what would happen if I didn't pursue it. Or I'm scared. You know, there's loads of like reasons. Fear would be, I definitely am going to be alone forever. Oh shit. There's not enough for me. Scarcity.

In my head, yeah, like what's helped me is anger and fear are I considered to be two separate emotional experiences. You know what I mean? That's good. Let's discuss why on another episode. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we can do. In the change triangle, you know, there's six core emotions.

It's same as in. Inside Out, actually. And that's a whole other thing. What, the film Inside Out? Inside Out and Inside Out 2 are both incredibly astute dramatizations of like quite up-to-date psychological research. Like they really, even Inside Out 2, they introduce inhibitory emotions. They do it in such like a fun way. But it's really like, it's really precise.

What? I mean, sorry, but go on Pixar. No, they've always done it. I know, but it's, I mean, Disney have always done it. But it's just that is particularly incredible storytelling for children to kind of be able to sort of. I know. And adults to be able to define an emotion and dissect it. Fucking hell.

I do think there were some problems of inside out personally just because they gendered the emotions, which I thought was a bit fucked. But like, but it has to be, you know, it has to be like, you know, marketable. I think what we should say to end this is that everything is an invitation. I think we should also call the episode that. Yes, that is true. I think I wanted to just finish by saying that like I forgave the person, but I still held the boundary.

And then I actually didn't spend any more time with that person. Yeah, and you probably didn't spend any more time holding that anger. No, no, that's what I mean. That was like mind-blowing for me that both of those things could happen, you know? I'm telling you, liberation is the cementing idea that your thoughts can change your entire reality. And they just can because of the way you react to things. You can change what reality means. I've experienced it in the last few weeks.

Yeah. Because of a change in reaction to things. It's fucking mind-blowing. So everything is an invitation if you're only willing to accept it. Do you want to go to the party of life or not? That's good. That's good. Do you want to go to the party or not?

Okay. I got to go. I've literally got to go put T-Trial on these Mozzie's bites. I can't believe this has happened to me. I'm so sorry you've been bitten by mozzies. That sounds ridiculous. In East London? It's mental.

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