Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! Get Over It

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

Miquita Oliver and Jordan Stephens answer your questions about flatmates.Next week, we want to hear your questions about THINGS TO DO BEFORE YOU DIE. Please send us a voice note on WhatsApp: 08000 30 ...40 90. Or, if you like, send us an email: missme@bbc.co.uk.This episode contains very strong language and adult themes. Credits: Producer: Flossie Barratt Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. Hi, Kush Jumbo here. My podcast Origins is where the biggest names in entertainment tell me the stories that made them who they are today. This week on Origins is KSI. I did boxing as a joke, if that makes sense. So, no, continue. Did you and Tommy Fury become friends?
Starting point is 00:00:26 No, no, I would be sweating if I was like sitting next to another woman. I didn't know how to talk to females. Listen to Origins with Kuss Jumbo wherever you get your podcasts. BBC Sounds music radio podcasts. This episode of Miss Me contains very strong language and adult themes and stories of living with people you can't bloody stand. Kate, you ready? I see the red light. Oh, I don't see a red light.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Red light. Oh my God, you heard that Sting doesn't think that breath you take isn't about being a stalker. That blew my mind. Do you mean like that's actually completely reframed my view on Sting. I thought it was about a stalker. He comes out, I think that's a sign of affection. Every breath you take, you creep. And welcome to Listen Bitch. We'll be discussing. I'm not bringing Sting down.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I'm not bringing Sting down, I love Sting. Please blow my mind, other than the tantric sex thing, that seems fun. No, he's got so much more to him than both these things. He's a great man, I believe. So here we are, Listen bitch, me and Jordan, who I don't wanna lie to anyone, we are being paid for this.
Starting point is 00:01:51 We're paid to do this. Really? That's the truth. I didn't actually know that, that's great. So sweet of you coming. Yeah. But there are other ways that freelance broadcasters make money, you got to.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And voiceovers are a really untapped world. Yeah. Oh, voiceover work is wonderful work. If you can get it when you get it. I know you've got it. You've had it before you do voiceovers. I did a voiceover job once and a woman walked in, right? This is like, this is, I was sat and waiting to get taken to the studio. The door rushes open, right? A woman walks in and overalls little bag, right? And she points and goes, the usual, like that, right? She goes, the usual. Wades past with an air of, honestly, a regal air, right? I've gone, oh my God. Okay, she's got the usual. She'd gone to the studio. I've turned to the woman and go, who's that? And she goes, voice of
Starting point is 00:02:40 Lidl. Yeah, see, see, hierarchy lives in all sides. She's been the voice of Lidl for like six years. Yeah, but what a gig. What a gig. I'm not joking. She walked in peppermint tea, the usual, bro. 200k a year or something. These people don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:02 You know me. Get me my tea, please. I'm here three times a week. boys little on prices motherfucker. Give me my Let's hear your voice over voice. You did a gym one didn't you anything you want from a gym find it? I Can't say and I did I did go Dunder go Questions on a card if you know where. I did a voice over for five years, which paid for a lot of my homes and today we're talking about flatmates. So don't tell us we can't
Starting point is 00:03:32 segue. Let's get the first question for today's Listen Bitch. The theme is flatmates. Hi Makita. My name is Erin. I'm originally from Stockport. I'm currently in Thailand. I'm originally from Stockport, I'm currently in Thailand. And my question for you regarding flatmates is, is there anything that you were kind of shocked to see about how other people live when you first got flatmates or, you know, maybe certain skills that you took for granted that some people hadn't acquired by adulthood? For example, I lived with a girl in the second year of uni, she was probably 21, and I realized she didn't know how to wash a plate. She would just put fairy liquid onto a plate and then wipe it off with kitchen roll.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And I was absolutely horrified. So is there anything like that where you were just like, oh my god, we are so different. Not everybody's household is the same. Thank you. Love you guys. No, that's skanky. I'm sorry. Can we just say she? Put a pin in that. She. What do you mean? Well, I don't know. Sometimes I feel like domestic disorganisation
Starting point is 00:04:40 gets thrown into the boy box. Yes. A girl splurred fairy liquid and wiped it off with one wipe, what the fuck? Actually, my best experience was living with two boys. Vibes. But I was really pleasantly surprised about the way they wanted the house to be looked after.
Starting point is 00:04:56 We all wanted to keep it really clean. And it was my best, now that I've gone through the whole list of how many flatmates I've ever had. How many flatmates do you think I've had? You Yes 15 15 minimum 23 you've had 20 and interestingly
Starting point is 00:05:19 That's the amount of fibroids that were taken out of my body Coincidence I don't think so. Does that include the polyamorous commune of Indy Sleeves bags that you stayed in? Actually, it was always my house, remember? Because I did, when I was young, always, I was on with money. So I didn't have to like go live with loads of people. I just- But listen, but the question was, what's the worst thing you've seen? Or shocking? What was the most shocking thing you've seen of all those 23 housemates? Come on. Come on. My behaviour throughout a lot of these houses was probably the most shocking I've seen.
Starting point is 00:05:55 No. Makita, I'm surprised that you don't have an answer. Are you protecting someone? Yes. Yes. Yes. In short, I witnessed a crime. Very much so. My husband came a crime scene with one flatmate and I don't want to do that to her. Okay. Because she was going through a lot, but fucking hell it can get bad. And you, et toi? Et toi? I've actually not had that many flatmates. I've had one, two, three. Yeah. So like, like 10. Yeah, yeah. Not that many. Not that many. But I had a flatmate who was an actor.
Starting point is 00:06:27 From, no I'm just. He is, he's popping at the moment. What did he do? I thought that was quite good, that flatmate situation. He used to just scream from his bedroom because he'd be practicing lines. So every time I would be like, you know, trying to make something in the kitchen,
Starting point is 00:06:41 I'd hear this guy running through an audition piece, but he'd be, what do you want to do? What's the tone? It's all or no. Yeah, because he mainly plays like loads to make something in the kitchen I'd hear this guy running through an audition piece but it'd be yeah because he mainly plays like loads of like weird fucked up characters it's not like he's like auditioning for the new cinderella film oh oh yeah he has range listen he's like a good looking white boy he was auditioning for fucking everything yeah no I remember he's doing very well now yeah well I don't think that's a story that can't be told. I mean, the thing is, the great thing about talking about flatmates is we're really talking about like when things are happening in your life and sharing that time with each other. Anyway, I think we get it.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Let's move on to the next question. Let's have a second question for this week's Listen Bitch. Hello, hello. My name is Cameron. I'm from Bangor in Ireland, but I'm actually going to be moving back to London within the next few months for work. So the theme this week could not have dropped at a better time for me. Guys, I'm shitting myself. I'm very nervous about living with strangers again. And part of that is because I'm quite a direct person. I love when people are direct with me. If there's something that I'm doing that's annoying,
Starting point is 00:07:47 tell me. If there's something you need from me, tell me. Because then I can fix it or I can do it or I can keep it in mind for the future just to make it easier for all of us to coexist together. But what I don't respond well to is passive aggression or when someone's not direct and they're just sort of giving weird energy because if where I'm living is
Starting point is 00:08:10 not a good vibe that affects everything for me, it gets me quite anxious and then I get angry because I don't feel comfortable in my own home. So I guess my question for you both is if you have any advice on how to navigate conflicts when you're living with people or if you've had experiences of conflict with people you live with that's ended on a positive note, hopefully. Anyway, big love to you both. I love the podcast. It really, really gets me through my week. So big love and all the best. Many experiences with things ending terribly. No advice because I just had to think about all of them today because I knew we were talking about it and I was
Starting point is 00:08:55 like, wow, I think there are two that didn't end in disaster. And I think really essentially because we're talking about relationships and breakups. That's what they are. Do you hate confrontation as well. Do I? Yeah. If something's bugging you, what are you going to say? Direct?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Live and direct? I'm just thinking, yeah, I don't. You're going to AJ Tracey to someone's face? I feel like I, no, I don't. I feel like you'd rather sidestep it. People please that. I have dealt with real passive aggressive bitches that I've had to live with, like really hardcore stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And yeah, I was upset with myself for how far I let those situations go and start tiptoeing around your own house and worried about the level of sound the kettle makes and that dealing with banging doors and sullen faces. And yeah, I found that already traumatic actually. I didn't live with anyone again after that experience.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Yeah, I don't, that's a really tough one, isn't it? I guess your response, his responsibility, our responsibility, my responsibility would be to just be clear, lead by example. Tell someone how you feel. Communication. Yeah, like if someone else isn't communicating, it doesn't mean we have to follow suit. We can be direct and understand that, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:10 it's probably a more effective way to deal with disagreements. I think it's because you're all in this house together. So it's like, it's just like the stakes are so high, I think. So it's like, we need to have a conversation, but like if it doesn't go well, what the fuck are we going to do? Because we live together. Like, I've only really lived with like strangers. And one point where the revolving door of a room in a flat, or a three bed I was living in in London Fields, we started like getting strangers
Starting point is 00:10:38 to move into it. And it just was disastrous and too much partying happened. But no one could say anything because it was just like, but what are we going to do? We'll all move out. So it just got worse and worse and worse. That's what it's like. It's just everything festers when it's like flatmate hell because no one wants to deal with it because then you're like, well, what's the outcome? I'm not leaving and neither are you. So we are just going to have to figure this out. It's part of compromise. It's just one of those things you got to do. Compromise and communicate.
Starting point is 00:11:05 We've got to learn to negotiate, man. Honestly. Ah, that's actually right. No, you're right. It's actually about negotiation. Yeah, because I'm thinking particularly of like that house in London Fields. Everyone was in their 30s. So everyone wanted a different experience. Like I wanted to still party. And so did the other girl.
Starting point is 00:11:23 But the other girl had just got a boyfriend and wanted to have like Saturdays at home where she could cook and watch telly. It's like, that's nice, but you don't live alone. Basically when partners move in, it's all fucked. It's just all fucked without a conversation. Facts. I've been on both sides of that. Do you want to ask the next question, babe? Next question, please.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Hi, Meketa and Jordan. Thank you so much, Jordan, for stepping in to miss me. I love your responses to all of our questions. My question is about flatmates. I had like, I was friends with someone and then I lived with them and now I'm no longer friends with them. So I want to know, do you think that being best friends with someone means that you can live together?
Starting point is 00:12:05 What changes when you live with someone? And do you think it's always a good idea? Do you think friends or being like close to someone necessarily means that they'd be good to live with? Love you guys. This is an interesting question because I don't know what's right because I lived with Phoebe Oliver and that was also fantastic, fantastic, ended in kind of disaster.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And then I've lived with strangers, fantastic, disaster. I think what you need is a good friend of someone you really love. I think that's about close enough, and that's about enough trust is already kind of laid down because it's like, this is blah blah's friend. I know that I trust them to pick a good person as their friend. I always dreamt of living with my besties. Do you know what I mean? When I did that, I had a moment when it was like me, Harley and two other mates
Starting point is 00:12:56 and that was actually hell on earth. But it was... Where did you live? In Islington. It was a house with no living room. It was just four bedrooms, four 20-year-old boys stinking the whole place up, and then eventually illegally subletting it for six months. But it was ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:13:14 We didn't know how to live. We didn't know what to do. Constant partying. But that's the best. Yeah, it was good. It was just like, you know, unhygienic and surreal. I think like the most vivid image I have of that first house was there was a bowl of super noodles just on the floor in the corridor with three batteries in it
Starting point is 00:13:35 for so long. And it was almost like the batteries were just like, everyone was like, well, I'll probably just leave that there then. So skanky. It's like, why, why, why? I really believe if there hadn't been batteries there, then people would have, someone would have taken that and hold upstairs, but the batteries were just like, there must be something else going on.
Starting point is 00:13:55 It must be an art installation. There must be something else going on. There must be something important going on here. Um, 20s is when it's dreamy. It's like, oh my God, this is our house. We have no rules. And in my case, we had some money in the bank. Me and my cousin Phoebe, we were like,
Starting point is 00:14:14 okay, we got this fat flat. I think it could be great. Again, I think we're gonna get these questions a lot. I think ultimately, the really rubbish thing about being a human being is that we have to try and compromise and negotiate whenever we come into these power exchanges in any kind of relationship. Like really and truly, why would we approach living with a best friend any differently
Starting point is 00:14:34 to living with a partner? Exactly. It's the same exchange. Kind of, isn't it? I mean, it's a battle for space, battle for different types of ways to be. Someone might like something like this, someone might like something like that. And I guess, you know, it depends on, it literally just depends on how willing we are to let go of our own shit and how willing they are. Yeah. And that's what you realise that not many people are willing to let go of their
Starting point is 00:14:56 shit very often. Yeah, it's wild. Like after a four month fight about who, which half of the sofa each girl owned, I was like, yeah, I'm never living with people again. Which part of the sofa each girl owned. I was like, yeah, I'm never living with people again. Was part of the sofa? Uh-huh. Oh my, that is, that's, that's... Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:15:11 That is... It was like, do you know what? That's fucking insane. When did we lose the ability just to be cooperative? It's fucking nuts. Well, any space where you're sharing that kind of personal exchange with people over and over and over again. I think power plays come up often and I think a lot of times, I can't believe you want to take power. Obviously it's all mine. It's like, well, why wouldn't she?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Everyone believes they're the most powerful person. I just think, look, people got different strengths, yeah? If you live in a household, you work to your strengths. You try to create balance, yeah? If you're a tidy person, don't moan about people who are messy. Just be tidy. This is what I feel I don't get, like, I might be tidy, but I'm tidy slower than you.
Starting point is 00:15:51 So if you're prepared to leave that for another week, I will be tidy. If you want it tidied right now, then just tidy it. Why don't you complain to me why I'm not as quick at tidying as you? I love, I've never heard someone describe themselves as a slow tidy yet. You're tidy but it's slow. Yeah, my tolerance of mess is way higher than other people's and I know that because it's not just my own space.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I'll go to friends' houses and that's a tip, but I'm only knowing that because of maybe what they're saying. I don't go into a person's house and be like, Jesus, rarely do I ever feel like that. Because I'm just, I don't know, that's not what be like, Jesus, rarely do I ever feel like that. Cause I'm just, I don't know, that's not what I'm measuring, what I'm focusing on. I'm focused on conversation, like what we're doing. That's what I'm thinking about. But I respect the other side too.
Starting point is 00:16:33 So I'll do my best to help be in someone else's space. But I also know my strengths, you know? Which is? Well, my strengths will be more in a case of like, fun ideas, you know? Like finding people to improve the home. She say, yeah. If you need someone to do a thing, what you need?
Starting point is 00:16:51 Oh, you need a piece of, you want a piece of art to make this room? I got you. Oh, you need, you need a group of builders to do that? I got you. I know these man. I got the, do you know what I'm saying? That's, that's the, I'm the fixer almost, you know? Yeah. And yeah, sometimes I throw my fucking bag or bag and jacket on a chair instead of hanging it up and it's not ideal.
Starting point is 00:17:09 But you're like, hey, what a great idea you came up with yesterday though. Let's let him have the jacket on this summer. Something I struggle with, but I do try to improve. Let's have another question because we've got on and on and on and on and on. Let's keep it going on and on and on. Why do you always say that when I talk? That's what gives me a complex. Hi, Lillian Makita. It's Katie from East London. Hopefully this isn't too cliche and isn't too kind of sitcom and friends vibes, but I genuinely had the best flatmate when I was at uni in the
Starting point is 00:17:40 history of flatmates. So my question is, did you have a flatmate that you just had the best times with? Those times that even when you think about them now, they almost make your heart ache with joy. And what were they? Ours included throwing a Christmas tree out of a third floor window, both waking up drunk many, many a times, me once in the communal hallway completely naked, and just spending nights and nights and nights on our sofa, putting the world to rights, making up videos before TikTok was a thing. So yeah, what was your best memories with a flatmate
Starting point is 00:18:19 that just warm your heart to this day? Absolutely love everything you're doing, never stop, and sending big love to Lily. Oh my God, who's this legend? H love everything you're doing. Never stop and sending big love to Lilly. Oh my god, who's this legend? Hire them for the show. Yeah, I love you. All right, Miss Positive, Vi Bringer, talk about that. I know what your role is in the house. I know we're sitting here like bitching about flatmates and you're like, okay, let's go. I've got one, yeah, the two boys that I was telling you when I live with them, When I was thinking about like living with them, there was this series of Celebrity Big Brother on
Starting point is 00:18:48 the year we lived together. It was the one where Dappy was in it and Lee from Blue. Iconic. Remember that one? I mean, those two together, recipe for appetite. Oh, is this the scene where she's going, he's mugging you off. This is when they're frozen.
Starting point is 00:19:04 No. Shit. He's mugging you off. Shit was funny. That was no, that's top five Big Brother moments ever. And also it was an interesting power dynamic between Lee from Blue trying to show Dappy that he was comfortable with himself. And there's this scene where they go out the shower and they were both a bit naked and Dappy was very comfortable being naked, kind of drying himself. And Lee from Blue was where they go out the shower and they were both a bit naked and Daffy was very comfortable being naked kind of drying himself and Lee from Blue was sort of trying to do it. It was a very, it was actually quite an emotional scene. I remember thinking, God, this is a real lesson in kind of vulnerability between men, between
Starting point is 00:19:37 Lee from Blue and Daffy from Mendes. But we just laughed that whole winter, I guess that was the whole winter. We just, I did not stop laughing. And I was thinking about it today. I was like, that was funny shit. And that was a good time. J dog, can I get a, as if I'm going to call you J dog. Let's not be ridiculous. People call me where J Steezy, J dog, J Lord.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Really? I didn't know all these were on offer. J wheeze occurs, J wheeze occurs. I like J wheeze occurs. Can I getesicus. J-Wesicus, I like. J-Wesicus, can I get... Could you take us to the break? All right, ad break. What were we saying, Keats? Sure, J-Wesicus. What were we saying, M-O?
Starting point is 00:20:14 No, that's why I've always abbreviated Keats. What were we saying, Momo? What were we saying, Moo Moo? LAUGHTER Hi, Kush Jumbo here. My podcast Origins is where the biggest names in entertainment tell me the stories that made them who they are today. This week on Origins is KSI. I did boxing as a joke, if that makes sense. So- No, continue. Did you and Tommy Fury become friends? No, I would be sweating if I was like sitting next to another woman. I didn't know how to talk to females.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Listen to Origins with Kush Jumbo, wherever you get your podcasts. you get your podcasts. Back from the break with JS and Momo. Women of the Momo. That was the subtitle on Grazia winner. Women of the Momo. Oh my God. Hi, Magita. This is Hannah.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I am 42 years old and I live in the Netherlands, but I'm originally from the UK. Flatmates. So I spent the majority of my 20s living with a variety of flatmates in shared houses. And then after I bought my place in Brighton, I had a few people move in with me. I complained a lot about them and I always thought way back then that they were the issue. And actually upon reflection, I think I was a pretty horrific housemate, whether it was smoking inside or being too noisy after nights out or inviting loads of people back for parties. And I had a few experiences with flatmates kind of moving out without telling me and things like that and so my question to you
Starting point is 00:22:12 is do you guys think you were good flatmates or terrible ones like me? Thanks, love your podcast, bye. So firstly shout out my self-aware queen, Hannah. Sometimes we're the problem. Facts. Oh God. Like I genuinely rate that. So many piss takes in my head just started rolling through my head just like oh that
Starting point is 00:22:37 was a bit of a piss take. Oh fucking hell. But the thing is I own the houses so it was alright. Sorry go ahead. I just realised why am I here. We didn't. I didn't own the I going? I didn't own the house. House, I didn't own it. I once had a few people over and
Starting point is 00:22:52 I had like four people over after a job that I did. And one of them just pissed in the corner of my mates bedroom. Stop it. We were in the kitchen, everyone was wasted. She's like, where's the toilet? Oh, okay, accident. I mean, there's an accident and then there's opening a bedroom, walking into the bedroom
Starting point is 00:23:12 and just fucking pissing onto carpet. It's not like there was a fake toilet there. And so I remember vividly, I had a gig the next day at Roundhouse. I think I was supporting someone. I began to focal off my flatmate going, Jordan, what the fuck? I've got this fucking piss in the corner of the bedroom. What the fuck is happening? And not only that, the other two, there was a few of them,
Starting point is 00:23:36 two of them stayed in my friend's room, who also wasn't there. And oddly, they didn't actually do damage like that, but they did take all of my friends Books out of the shelf and place them perfectly underneath His bed for some reason so they're just kind of fucked with his room a little bit just a little fuckery Yeah, we had to get a deep cleaner around for that and if I'm honest the smell never went so you are saying yes I think maybe you could say you were the problem in that situation. I was the problem in that situation Well telling not me, but I was inadvertently the problem. I was a problem by proxy Yes, yes, you know, I put money into the deep clean
Starting point is 00:24:14 Please I'd like to say sorry. I have always tried to be because I feel like every time I've ever had is gonna this episode I've always tried to be a really caring Understanding kind flatmate. I'm sorry if I was a bit of a nightmare sometimes. I imagine I was going through something. Let's have another question. Hey Makita and Missing You Lily. Love you guys so much. Your pod just brings me a lot of joy. Okay, flatmates. So I had a baby when I was 18 years old and then moved out of my mum and dad's house into my own place. So I've actually never had a flatmate apart from my kid. But yeah, I was just wondering if you guys have I missed out on not having flatmates? Because I sometimes feel like I really have. I don't know, just that kind of like living
Starting point is 00:25:17 with girls and having that girl experience and having like all your friends like living with you. But yeah, I've never had that. Have I missed out? Oh, it's Sophie from Manchester. Yeah, peace and love. Love you guys. Look, Jade's here. Hi, Jade. Thank you for joining us.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Thank you. And now that I've been to your house, I understand. This is the study. Yes. This is the lovely study. This is where thoughts. It's Jordan's room. It's Jordan's room. This is where I feel like this is a good place to think and talk and feel and study. Yes. This is the lovely study. This is where thoughts. It's Jordan's room. It's Jordan's room.
Starting point is 00:25:45 This is where I feel like this is a good place to think and talk and feel and share. Yes. I think you can answer this question. This woman is asking, she's never had the opportunity to live with a close friend, especially a close female friend. You've lived with your best friend for years.
Starting point is 00:25:58 So is she missing out? I think she's missing out. I think it's really important for everyone to experience living with their friends at some point in their lives. I think you learn a lot from that. You learn who you want to be around, who you don't want to be around. You learn patience and compromise within your friendship. And I mean, for me, with what I do at work and stuff, I find it really grounding to be able to come home to my best friend from school who really is not asked in the slightest of what I do.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Yeah, not gassed at all. No, not at all. Yes, got it. Like she loves me, she supports my music, she loves what I do, but she doesn't care who I've had lunch with or which stars I've been mingling with, all this stuff. She's just like, we sit down. which stars I've been mingling with all this stuff she's just like we sit down like stars you've been mingling
Starting point is 00:26:47 with. Okay where have you been? Literally nowhere. She gets excited when I go and love Ireland after something for the tea. Oh yeah I love all the tea. Oh my god okay let me just ask something a little bit sensitive so this is lovely Holly that I met, right? Yes. That has lived in lots of houses with you. She's lovely. How did you have an experience with another friend where it went sour and you were like, yeah, Holly's all I can trust.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Yeah, a little bit. I've definitely had negative experiences in the past living with people only towards the end. I think sometimes, you know, people's best and worst parts come out when like you're parting ways and it's like how it's done or who gets what and all that stuff. This is why I said that they're like breakups
Starting point is 00:27:34 because it's like when you go back on all the stories, like it was so good. It was so, and then you're like, oh, and then it got fucking awful. And then it was a disaster and it fell apart. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, the people that's happened with, I'm still sort of amicable with them and it's like fine,
Starting point is 00:27:48 but then you learn, don't you like, well, I'm not gonna live with that type of person again. That's not gonna work. That's not gonna work. No. And what about your new flatmate, Jordan? Oh, Jordan. Jordan's brilliant to live with.
Starting point is 00:28:01 He really is. Oh my God. What? No, I mean it. Yeah, I think, do you know what? I've, Jordan's really helped me better myself because I'm very organized, super perfectionist. And when me and Jordan first started dating, you know, obviously he has ADHD and that was something that I had to learn to adapt to. Right, no seriously.
Starting point is 00:28:29 So some of that will include like he's incredibly messy. We've spoken about this as well. Yes. Slowed idea, he puts it as I'm a slowed idea. We actually have a new word for it. Okay, yeah, I'm sure there's nicer ways of putting it. But yeah, so and to Jordan, like if he leaves a pile, it will just become invisible after a certain period of time.
Starting point is 00:28:49 So it just doesn't exist anymore. So I do spend a lot of time sort of tidying up after Jordan. Not a lot of time, come on. Wow! Oh my God, I forgot what it's like to tide up after men. It's so fucking irritating! After men. But to be honest.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Sorry, after someone we're living with. Sorry, sorry, after someone you're living with. It's not honestly. You've men. But to be honest... No, you started this... Sorry, after someone we're living... Sorry, sorry, after someone you're living with. It's not honestly. You've got messy women out there, man. This is true. I can also be messy as well, to be fair. But it's like organized chaos, do you know what I mean? But this is my point, is that there are some things that Jade likes to organize, and there
Starting point is 00:29:17 are other things that I just don't even recognize that as something that should happen. What's the most disgusting thing you've ever seen from a flatmate? Oh, yeah, that's good. J could take that one. Most disgusting thing? Bait someone out. Oh, my last flatmate was super, super clean. So that was probably, I came across his bag.
Starting point is 00:29:38 So I was so busy with work. Once I left my slow cooker out and I forgot it was there for like weeks and then when the lid was lifted by my flatmate it had its own... It was cooking for weeks. No it wasn't cooking it was just there was shit in there there was like broth or whatever and it just sat and festered. Can I say can I say just on balance that isn't the... Jade is making out that's the only time that's happened that has happened in my lived experience too and guess who sorts it out?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Ah slow tidy, slow tidy sorts it out. Guess who sorts it out? These two girls right one time I have to say they've come home from a night out right they've come home from a night out and this is I've never seen anything like it in my life they dropped a raw egg on the kitchen floor, right? These girls were gagging, trying to pick up this raw egg from the floor. They couldn't get down to pick it up without, whoop, whoop, and they're both setting each other off. Whoop, whoop, both in this weird gag circle.
Starting point is 00:30:34 So you had to come in. They're walking and pick up the fucking egg. What's wrong with you? Miki, I've got a very touchy, vulnerable gag reflex. So- I totally understand. You know, if something's got a bad whiff about it, if the texture's off, if it's a raw egg chicken.
Starting point is 00:30:54 No, don't. Do you get it? I sort it. No, cause a kid sneezed in custard once and then he ate it. And I was like, no, I see. Too custard.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Too many things I need that. have fucking gone wrong here. I'm filthy, I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. Thinking about that's given me watery mouth. You can just describe gory food and set Jade off. She'll probably vomit on the spot. Will retch, retch 32.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Jade, thank you for the guest star appearance. Thank you so much, darling. Thank you. Thanks, love you. I went on holiday with these guys. They really fucking love each other. That was honestly one of the best holidays ever and Jordan knows this,
Starting point is 00:31:30 I never socialized with new people, like I really hate it. Yeah. And you and your lovely family and friends were so welcoming. Like you said that was the, you loved that, right? Yeah, I saw Jade relax basically. I can see when Jade's got her mask on
Starting point is 00:31:44 and when her mask's off and I tell you, it was off. It was really wonderful to see, very wholesome. We were all in quite a maskless place. Yes, yes. Jade, that means so much. We loved you, you know, that's why we kept buying you bikinis. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Present for Jadey. Bye, Jade. Bye, love you, Jade. All right, sorry, Keats, thank you, love you. Thank you for another lovely listen, bitch, love you too. Is there anything else you would like to say to me about PlantMates? I'm sure, surely not.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Look, I'm just gonna say straight up, I would still live in some form of creative commune. Why not? 50s or do you wanna do it like now-ish? Forever, man, come on, what the fuck? What are we doing, man? Like, it's people, I wanna see people. And I don't mind if they're annoying me,
Starting point is 00:32:22 I wanna wake up and someone's like, hey, I'm drawing a massive A3 of, oh cool, I'll join in with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm starting to see the utopia you want to create. We'll talk about this further. And then people have babies and you can just take, oh, do you need childcare tonight? Me and my chillin' tonight.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Oh yeah, cool, we'll go out and rave it up. Come on. Flatmates gives this experience this kind of like, you know, defined sensibility. Flatmates, but really we're talking about talking about actually it's really good for us to share and connect and exchange our shit with other people all the time. Go outside, touch some grass, meet some people, have an argument, get over it. Live with your mate, live with your mate, have a flatmate. So it's actually now an advert.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah, get over it. And let's be real, in London fucking you need to get over it because what the hell is happening Yeah, where else you going? Where else you going? What you gonna do say for 15 years? Many almost had a recent argument with a flatmate get over it because where else you gonna fucking yeah So next week's miss me is a very special episode So next week's Miss Me is a very special episode. We are going to actually turn into a pirate radio station for one night only on the BBC to welcome home the return of Miss Lily Allen. Right. That's right. She coming home. She's coming home and we will be discussing for Lily Allen's return the
Starting point is 00:33:46 theme for next week's Listen Bitch which is... Things to do before you die. So many things to do before we die. And as you get older you realise you might not do all of them. And that's okay. Send your voice notes to 080304090 that's 080304090 let's welcome home our baby properly. Thank you Jordan love you babe bye. Love ya bye. Thanks for listening to Miss Me with Lily Allen and Meketa Oliver. This is a Persephoneca production for BBC Sounds. Calling all music buffs. Hey, hey, turn the volume up, yeah? Make Me A Mix Tape is back. I'm Jordan Stevens.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I'm Clara Anfo and this is our weekly music show. A celebrity guest picks the theme. We select the tunes. And we battle it out to create the ultimate mix tape. May the best music lover win. Oh, it's about to go down. Let's go! Make me a mixtape.
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