Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! I’m Not Doing That Anymore

Episode Date: August 10, 2026

Miquita Oliver and Jordan Stephens get into why culture glamorises some bad habits, and not others, and when things get embarrassing should you stay home? Oh, and then there was that time Jordan threw a fish at Jason Derulo and still asked to be one of his back-up dancers.Next week the theme is RESTAURANTS! The good, the overpriced, the memorable, the table by the loo? Send your voice note questions on WhatsApp https://wa.me/447849030711Follow the show on instagram and TikTok @missme.4evaGet cultural recommendations from the weekly Miss Me? Library at patreon.com/missmeProducer: Natalie JamiesonTechnical Producer: Oliver Geraghty Assistant Producer: Katie-Louise Buxton Video Editor: Danny PapeProduction Coordinator: Tom JacksonExecutive Producers: Ellie Clifford & Dino SofosMiss Me? is a Persephonica show Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome everybody to Listen Bitch. We're doing a part two on drugs. We had so many good questions and actually it's a lengthy, multi-layered subjects we realised that couldn't just be, you know, wrapped up and summarised in 45 minutes. So welcome to Drugs Part 2. I just would like to say that my words do not condone drug use

within the laws stated in the UK, okay? I just want to be clear that I don't I'm not, and I mean this, I'm saying this, I really mean this. I'm not promoting anything. I'm not convincing anybody to do anything. I have questions about drug legislation, which I can voice via David Nutt, who is an expert. And you will see me on an advert for medicinal cannabis,

because I believe in that very much. I can't wait to see that. And so that's, I just want to make that clear. Before we get into any fun stories, I'm talking about me, right? Talk about me. I live life on the edge. Okay, but I also do avoid breaking the law. Same zies.

I lived life on the edge, not anymore. And I just like to think of as, I don't know, maybe like archaeologists or like alienologists, you know, looking at something historic. Yeah, we're just discovering things to experience. And also like, you know, one thing we can be sure about is that no interesting person ever in history ever took any drug. Absolutely. That's what we can be sure about.

The magic round about the greatest kid's TV show is definitely written by people who were completely sober. Telitubbies, not a single substance ingesting. We should actually. No, no, no, I'm just telling you, they all sat around and went, let's make the son a baby's face

and they were totally sober. They were drinking. No, but really, we should talk about the greatest artistic pursuits that have come from a little bit of drug taking. Oh, no, Mikita. You're not hearing me. No, I am.

The Bible, definitely written sober. Actually, I think that probably was. Oh, yeah? Burning Bush? Okay. The sea parting. Yeah, seems sane. Ah, that is quite trippy.

Yeah. Oh, that's the bit of things trippy. A man rising from the dead. Everything else is pretty, yeah, everything else makes pretty much good sense. Moses sea parting. It's like, come on. Water into wine.

All right, I hope the Bible comes up in this episode two of drugs. That is quite trivial. It's really funny. Let's have our first question. Let's take some drug experiences together. Legally. Hey, Macaida and Jordan. I'm Jess from Perth in Australia.

Hi. I'm not the Scottish one. I find the concept of drugs really, really interesting because I think what I've struggled with most of the things that people don't necessarily think of as drugs. So for me, doom scrolling on the phone, you know, Netflix and chill when you spend an entire week, weekend, bed rotting, watching Netflix over and over. Food, specifically, you're like over-processed food

that's engineered to you hook into your brain and make you crave it 24-7. And what I find really interesting is these concepts around that it's okay to do it, even the term that I use bed-rodding. Like we normalize it and we demonize you things that are illegal. I think there's something to be said because I could destroy my life just as much with these things that are normalized. I love this person. I don't know. I don't know whether binge watching is as bad as becoming a smackhead. Well, it depends if you're functional. Do you know what I'm saying, though? Because it's weird this thing with binge watching. It's like streaming. It's so bad for us that it's like if I'd sat in bed when I was 10 and watched three VHSs in a row, I wouldn't think I was a 10.

terrible person ruining my life. I would have just been having like a video day. For the sake of balance, you have gone to the furthest extreme of drug use to disprove her point. I think, I think perhaps she was more in the realms of like smoking a spliff or like doing, doing other, you know, I think doing heroin comparing to watching Netflix, I think many people would concede they'd go for Netflix. But I've got a question for you then. Whose life do you hold in a higher regard? Someone who, who, works nine to five and watches Netflix every single day, right, like until they die and they and they just, they just work.

Or maybe not even work. Maybe they just sit, benefits Netflix or Etta James. Was she a heroin addict? Yes. So what is your point? Because obviously the answer is Etta. Why is that obvious? The other point is like she's a functioning heroin addict.

So like, so and she created and utilized the gift beyond all, I mean I can see now. I can just hear that typing to make sure that she actually is a heroin addict and it isn't crack. It might have been cracked. Is Exeter James actually, was she a heroin addict? It is heroin. It is heroin. Even though it was really bad.

She was like, she was self-isolated. She was tortured. So like whole thing. We have glamorized this, right? But the point is like, is it like when we consider to be damaging, we look at the gifts that this heroin addicts provided us with. What gifts are you being provided with if you're watching Netflix every day your life? That would be the argument. Yes.

I'm not agreeing with heroin, by the way. very much not by the way I'm very passionately anti that that is the furthest you could possibly go and the reason... Do you know why heroin is so addictive by the way? It's funny how we always think that, isn't it? As people that have taken drugs in the past, it's always, it was like, I would take fucking anything

but then I'd be like heroin I would never take. Do you know why? Please tell me. The thing that's fucked about heroin is it's the ultimate pain killer, right? So this is why we have... There's an opioid crisis in America killing. I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of people a year. It's like absolutely ridiculous

what the pharmaceutical industry have done. and by the way, done legally apparently out there, right? Yeah. The thing about heroin is, this is what I've heard from when I've listened to people talk about it, to taking it, you in this heightened state of just absolute peace and serenity. And then you're not. So the reason why heroin, the reason why heroin is so fucked up is because you end up feeling pain in your life that you didn't know existed before you took it. Fuck, that's quite a good way of putting it.

Whoa. But it's incredibly difficult to come up. of for that reason. And I suppose that's where addiction really lies, where you just never want to leave that room. Yeah, because you're in pain. Yeah, because now I understand that the world outside of said room is pain. Well, it's, but what stays with me is it's like,

you're, like, it's making the life you previously had more painful than it was. That's what freaks me out. This is why people get addicted to codeine or get addicted to sleeping pills or whatever, because it's just like switch off. And then you're up and you're thinking, oh my God, I have no control over. have no control over my experience of life. That's too far for me. I don't want to not feel any pain or unhappiness or that's scary.

It's scary. Yes, you're right. Another thing that I, just to agree with it because I really like the point she made, gambling. Ah, yes. And that's allowed to be advertised on the television. I had someone approached me, actually. I was having a coffee last year in the middle of my double run of my double show day

or my play. and someone came over to me and was like, mate, I'll be real with you. I got a shit ton of money. I got a person who wants to work with you. Would you be interested in? Dda, da, da. And I was like, never. I said, I can tell you right now,

I will never, ever collaborate with a betting company as long as I'm in this spot. Which, I hope that doesn't come up and bite my ass because I don't hope that. Like, I suddenly just suddenly strapped for cashmen. No, because you really should never do that. I don't care honestly. I can see that how it can be fun.

But it's like, I remember there being an LBC phone in, right? And then someone was like, what's the most you've ever lost to a gambling addiction? And a guy rang in and said, my family. It's not funny. I mean, fun. After I went bankrupt, I did a series straight away, like still in my trauma for BBC 3 about bank clones and debt. And what it does to people. Yeah, it's wild. So I'd say gambling should be. It's not even classed. It's not a drug. It's not seen as an addictive. No, it is seen as addictive. They're just allowed to they have the precautions that they provided now is you have to set you have to promote a disclaimer yeah you have to you have to give them a website address or whatever to be like oh by the way if you're addicted

go on gamble responsibly dot com or whatever it's like that's it i also food is a whole other one i'm hoping someone else brings it into the question because food food food i will spiral about like i will fucking spiral about food it is my one of my biggest traumas in life is food let's have another question really fucking have it's food then it won't be hi mckeyton Jordan, love the pod. My question for you on the subject of drugs is, have you ever had the same or similar feelings that you would have had when taking drugs? So like narcotics, stimulants, but engaging in an activity where you've not actually taken anything. So for example, I've noticed that after I've had like a killer orgasm, I usually feel so euphoric and it reminds me of experiences

of when I've taken ecstasy, like the feelings are very similar. And I know that's probably because of like dopamine, etc. But I'm just interested to know what experiences you have in life that would, yeah, liken the similarities to having taken those drugs. What a question. Great question. This is why I don't take pills. Because I don't need to feel orgasmic around 100 people.

Like, you know, that thing where you see people like, eyes rolling and they're like touching themselves, and they're like, ugh. And you're like, this should be private. this moment you're having with your own ecstasy, quite literally, that should be private. That's why I hate pills. I don't agree. Touch yourself in a dance. I know you do.

Get naked. I feel exposed by how good I feel. And actually I don't feel good anymore. Like, as I said, I haven't taken ecstasy since I was 18. And it's illegal. And it's illegal. So I wouldn't anyway. But it's too much.

I feel too out of control. That's what it is. I don't like feeling out of control. which is strange because I used to like being drunk so much, which is really out of control. So I wonder why I don't feel the same about both things. Tell me, Doctor. What do you think, Doctor?

Doctor. I think she's touching on something that I feel super passionate about. There's a friend of mine called Aisha, who I was speaking to recently. I was having a conversation about pleasure in the context of our society and how we view it. And, you know, sex and intimacy, these are things I'm writing about at the moment. That is the context in which I was speaking to her about it. And she made this really amazing point that stayed with me.

And it was like she felt, or we felt perhaps it's like bordering on conspiratorial. But the idea is when you're engaging with something that gives you a short burst of dopamine, right? So maybe that's food, like sugar and fats, or maybe that's games or maybe that's whatever. You are engaging with a chemical that already lives in your body. That's what's so wild. The most amazing thing about intimacy is that you're shown through connection with another human, which you're not paying for and you're not being advertised.

You're being shown that you in your body can create a sense of pleasure akin to the things we pay for, which is why like the conspiracies, maybe they. I mean, it's kind of silly, but maybe it's not in the interests of whoever, religion, etc. or like a trickle down of that, whatever it is, for people to know that like, maybe I don't need to play this thing or buy this thing or drink this thing

because all I really need to do is breathe in communion with a person and it will elicit a feeling and I don't need to pay for it. Like that, that... Yeah, tell. And if you know that we become almost uncontrollable, you know, it's that whole market is based out of our inadequacy, you know. Like, you need this to feel good. But if we're there going, no, man, I can just feel euphoric.

The power's in you. You don't need anything. What? I don't know about women, but like, you know, men, we make, we wake up sometimes with morning glory, right? We wake up aroused because we have a, we have experienced like an intense rush of euphoria that our body has created while we sleep. Can I just ask? That's interesting. So why is it always an intense rush of euphoria? Like, why don't you wake up, I don't know, feeling like an intense, rush of guilt or... Yeah, you can do that too.

Unhavenness. Right, but how often is this euphoria that you wake up with? Well, it came up when we were talking about the testosterone cycle. Isn't it like we had, we have like our biggest load of testosterone at the start of the day? I don't know. I don't know. Please actually don't ask. No, but don't know.

I don't know too much. But all I'm saying is instead of me doing the science of like the hormones, what I can say is I've experienced the feeling like this woman is talking about and it's like that is, that's true. Like, I mean, the French call it a little death right like they're putting more that's what they can describe an orgasm as being and then when you do have these experiences with what we perceive as death whether that's through a plant etc that feeling

feels like an orgasm like so she is bang on and it is how wild is that it's in our body yeah DMT is in our brain we produce it and then we react with it yeah you taught me that a few months ago last year but then I think that's why we might become addicted to people because we mistake. You know, when you, like, have a really great dating experience, and you're like, oh, my God, he was so amazing. It's like, you were there too. Yeah.

Maybe you were amazing. Yeah. And what you want is them again so that you can get that hit again. Arousal, yeah. But sometimes if you're very lucky, you do the work, you can kind of get close to the fact that 80% of it was probably your magic anyway. Yeah, yeah, for real, for real.

And that is about the power beat. Actually, I watched this great show, which you would hate called the other Bennett sister on BBC and it was about Mary the other Bennett sister within the Pride and Prejudice family

of Jane Austen and it's brilliant it's like 12 parts and that I know you watched it and I know you loved it director I love that show I knew it but don't we love

the penultimate episode when she really learns this very simple thing that they were talking about in the days of Jane Austen Austin happiness is in your own hands it's very simple happiness is in your own hands.

Change that for power, arousal, desire. It's all in you. Once you learn that, chich-cha-cha. I remember I did something in Mexico. Is it called a demiscale or something? Oh, don't. So here's something that I was, this was fucking trippy.

Okay? And Jade and I did this completely, sober. Okay. So we do a thing called a Temas Gau is an ancient Mexican sweat lodge ceremony. This is very Simon Anselcoded that uses a dome-shaped heart, heated volcanic rocks and herbal steam to purify the body, mind and spirit. You go into a little heart, the door closes, this person guides you through deep breathing and makes these these sounds. And I promise you, I was somewhere else. I was making sounds out of my body that I didn't feel like I was making them. It was, they were coming. coming out, I'm pretty sure Jade,

she doesn't make me showing it, but Jade was crying, I mean, which is normal, I would cry, like, there was just purging, basically, through sound or tears or laughter as well. And then after this kind of hour-long experience of sweating and crying and laughing and teeing, he just, or she will then just open the door to the heart and it's literally like being reborn.

Like, it's like coming out into light, because you've just been in pure darkness, and then you just boom, light, and then you come back out. I didn't realize you were in darkness for that whole purge. Yeah, yeah, he shuts. So there's like a, it's a heart and a tiny doorway, and then they put a rock in front of it.

There's a fire, there's sound, and then you just purge, and then you open it. My point is, it was a transcendent experience, but there was like, no, we had not ingested anything in preparation for that. Sounds great. I'd love to do that. Yeah, strong recommend.

Strong recommend. Do they do it and hack me, or do I have to go to, where are you? Mexico. Mexico, fine. Yeah, okay. Riviera Maya. All right, let's have another question about drugs. D-R-U-G-S.

Hello, Jordan and Makita. This is more around binge drinking that you raised in the other episode. From a more of an international perspective, so just for context, I was born and raised in Paris, but I'm half Irish, half Spanish, both cultures that, of course, love to drink. I went to Bristol University, and it was really hard for me to make friends. and the main cause I think was binge shrinking. It was really hard because I would have deep conversations with people where they would just totally open up.

And then the next day, it's almost like they completely forgot that we had even spoken. So building long-term relationships for me in the UK was just really difficult. Like, why do you need to get completely sloshed to connect with people? I just don't get it. And I think it's a shame. And when you're in international,

it can be really hard to, adapt to it and it can also be quite dangerous if you're pulled into doing it yourself, especially if you're easily influenced. Correct. It's life ruiner. We saw what did talk about this. Did we talk about that when we were going to talk about like TV sort of 15, 20 years ago, Big Brother, you know, what was that one?

Like, I beat through uncovered, don't tell the bride. You know, there are three things that, there are three TV shows that have, very different things. One's about people living in a house together. One's about getting married and the other one's about going on holiday. Getting so slaughtered. Like, can you imagine getting that drunk on telly? Like, on telly.

And I remember, I mean, God rest her soul. Sarah Harding was on Big Brother drinking vodka's at one in the afternoon. It was just, it was like a really upsetting unraveling. And we all just thought it was funny telly. I don't think it's that Bin's drinking was celebrated in this country, but it's a part of life, part of who we are. been drinking is celebrated. You do think it's celebrated.

Not now. I don't think you could have a don't tell the bride type show now and show like all these grooms just like fucking up their weddings by going on these insane stags. And also they just drink through the whole thing. I don't think they'd make telly like that now. I mean, I remember I did an episode of Celebrity Juice actually. And I got so...

I forgot you were on that. Makita, I was on it like five or six times. And I was one episode, I got so drunk that they actually cut out the last five minutes of the show. Oh, so you've been drunk on telly? They didn't, no, they didn't televise it. It was that bad. In fact, it was so bad that Fern Cotton, renowned for being, you know, lovely, turn around to me and said,

Jordan, shut the fuck up. Oh, shit. Halfway through, they gave me more beer in the second half of the show. And the beer I drunk in the first half of the show hit me. And I ended up throwing a fish at Jason Derulo. I went behind Keith's desk and stole the script to the show. And then started hitting the buzzer in the quick fight answer every five seconds. And then saying the answer, the floor manager had to come over and fight the script off me.

and then I got booed by the crowd. And yeah, it got cut out. And also afterwards, I asked, I begged Jason Dorillo to put me in this dance team. Even after all my sort of adjacent partying drinking lifestyle with being on the telly, I have never been fucked up, like, on a set or like... Oh, I've done it loads.

In an TV environment. I've done it loads. That would terrify me. I've definitely gone to work hungover, but not like that. I once did Coke with my mic on. Yeah, you've had a lot. actually told me that story. You've actually let me in on that one already.

That is un-fucking believable. So that was on set. People don't realize the extent when I do eventually write a memoir or whatever the fuck about being a fucking dumb-ar celebrity, I'll write all this shit. It was it was the fucking Wild West back then. Pre-social media, pre-like fucking Insta stories and fucking whatever, you were just doing a madness, bro. I was back there.

I took Jason Mulo's number and shit. Asked if I could dance in his dance treat. What was course going on? I was off my tips. Do you know how drunk you have to be for them to take it out of the show at that point in history? Like they banked on people being drunk. And then I went on it sober once and thought I was like, what is this hell show? I'm never doing this again.

Yeah, it maybe needs to be pissed. Celebrity juice. God, it feels like such a time. What is that? 2010. 11, yeah, 10, 11, 12, yeah. Yeah, that's a terrible time for all of us. I want you to, I just want to do a story about you binge drinking. Like, is there a story?

What's the most drunk you've ever been? Do you know what? After the How to Fail interview, I really just think I need to just leave it for a minute because people are coming up to me in the street going, you look well now though. I'm like, this was really, I'm talking about stuff that was 10 and 15 years ago. So I don't really need to bore everyone with my old alcoholism right now. Have ever fallen asleep in public? Yes, on the street in Richmond at a bus stop.

Boom. And you say there's no bin. drinking culture. You probably got clapped. She's a jolly good fellow. No, I did not get clapped. People in Richmond were appalled. Maybe I was in the wrong area. Wrong barra. Yeah. Let's have a final question for drugs.

Hi, Makita. Hi, Jordan. It's Tina from Oldham. Jordan, I'm not a BMW, but love that you call your car, Tina. So about drugs. I work in a pharmacy and I was just wondering if you've ever taken something either accidentally or on purpose and it's interacted with your alcohol

and led to either something really good or something really bad. We hear all sorts of stories working in chemis. So yeah, just wondering. Thank you. Sorry, what did Tina say? Have you ever taken... What?

I think like, you know, the what comes to mind is, you know, like if you're on antibiotics, for antibiotics and like you think you're under drinking and you get fucking hammered. Or if you've taken, I don't know, some prescription for, and you haven't looked through the side effects. I really don't have much history of prescription drugs. And I've got a lot of people in my family

that they've really helped, like antidepressants. And I've always been terrified of them, But last, no, it was actually this year. Yeah, I had quite a difficult spring, as you know. And spring, I was starting to get a bit more curious about that. And I did talk to my cousin a bit about possibly antidepressants. But I was really scared that I felt like I'd got to that place because I can always sort of sort myself out these days with sport.

Mm. And I just needed more help. Yeah. I did need more help. And that was scary to me. I then got better from some action that I did put out in the world, so I didn't end up doing it. But even just asking, I was so ashamed to even talk to my cousin about it.

I don't know why. It's just like not normalized. I mean, it is, sorry, it is normalized for me because there are people in our family that this has really helped them. But I just, I guess there was a pride part of me that was like, I would never need that. I can look after my brain. And I suddenly couldn't.

Yeah. It can be, I mean, listen, it can be very helpful. It's always like the dream situation is for it to just be usering us towards helping ourselves, right? That's the dream. That's why I don't like, I would never shame anybody who's on prescription drugs. I mean, you know, I myself have found that it's really helped me of ADHD. It points in my life. So, yeah, but in terms of-

Do you sort of go on and off medication, Jay? Yeah. And do you really see a difference in your life when you're on and when you're off? At the moment, this, the current medication that I'm on for ADHD is, it's the first, I mean this it's the first time I felt kind of dependent on on a prescription drug for like easily a decade yeah like 10 years I've always I've always gone on for a little bit come off gone on come off gone sober like I pride myself on being you know like for example I just quit I just stopped smoking and like that blew the minds of like most people in my life because

they were it was a mistake I went to a hotel that was in the jungle and I've forgot to pack my vape. So I was there for like 10 days. And then I just came out and was like, right, I'm just going to stop smoking. And like, so that was crazy. Well, I do always see you as someone with great willpower, particularly with your journey with drugs and alcohol. Yeah.

But that I don't think it has anything to do with. Or maybe it's just that word willpower. And you're like, why can't I take that and apply it here? But there are so many things in life where I can apply something to a certain part of my life and fucking can't to another part. Well, yeah, I guess, yeah, you're right. I think for me in my head, it's not necessarily that I couldn't. I think I could if I felt like it was beginning to damage my life.

The issue for me is I've just realized that my life is very unusual. And I wouldn't be living it like this if I had the choice. I'm kind of in this bizarre space that hadn't been. And I have decided I welcome support. I don't feel like it's... Yeah, welcome support. Yeah. Just so it's like right now it doesn't even make sense.

just for the sheer fact of willpower or dependency when it's not actually harming anybody, I don't believe it is anyway. And if I did, then I would turn around and go, right? I mean, that's why I kick Coke, right? Because I was like, I keep destroying my relationship, so I'm not doing that anymore. Yeah, but that's good.

I'm not doing that anymore. That's so fucking powerful. I'm not doing that anymore. I've said that a lot about things. There are some things like for me and, yeah, Coke, I don't do that anymore. And it's not a thing anymore. It's not like a, if I keep saying that,

it's been years, I don't do that anymore. You know how they say a practice becomes an action becomes a life? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or maybe it's an action becomes a practice becomes a life. And it's like there is something beautiful, truly delicious about being around that. And people go, okay, so I'm like, no. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. But yeah, it's beautiful.

But the other, one thing I've always said about prescription stuff is you do feel trapped today because it's like the coming off is always harder. You like being around something and saying you don't have to do it. Yeah, that's the, that is, you know what? What's the thing I said it on Miss. me ages ago, we'll say it again because it's helped me so much in my life. I know. Freedom is the absence of want. That and and this is like discipline as self-love. Ooh. Yeah, discipline is self-love, I think.

Because you're you're not engaging with something out of a love for yourself in the future. Yes, it's like looking after you, it's 10 years in the future, but also you next month and then also you tomorrow and also you in an hour. Yeah. That's actually a really good way of looking at it. do think that when we there are harmful well per se harmful per se things in your life that you see as part of your daily routine it does become more of a sort of ritualistic part of your living but that but that's bullshit because i used to call a bottle of wine every night a ritualistic well i never did but i could say that about it and it fucking wasn't but that might be the reason my people feel encouraged to go to a pub or uh uh

Cheers. They do cheers. People do cheers, right? Where they're like, where they're toasting someone. There are loads of, there are probably deeper ancient things that underlie actions that are ultimately damaging.

And I think it's okay to be, to want that. Yeah. Not every time you go to the pub, but you like, I want to go to the pub, get pissed, annihilate myself and fuck up my life. No, you go,

be nice to have a glass of wine with Namer. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, what are your real intentions? But yeah, I'm going to go now. I've got a company to build. You've built it, babe. To grow, I think you mean this.

That's it. Scale. I've got company to scale. Bitch. I have, actually really do. Good. But I will see you next week. We're doing drugs part three.

I'm joking. We're not doing drugs. Patreon. Patreon. You want more of us in between. Pay for it. Do you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to ask like the visuals guys to do

some sort of visual of what's in the library so far. In the same way that when you walk past a video, a video shop. They had videos in the front window and you'd be like, oh, okay, you got Gremlins 2. Okay, I'll pop in here. Like, I feel like we need

a window of our library because we've got some great shit in there, especially with what I'm putting in this week. I was like, this is such an array of beauty. Yeah. We feel like it's August, yes? Oh my God, it's so August right now. And everyone is on holiday,

traveling the world, or just maybe having a bit more of a leisurely time in the city that you live in or the town or the village you live in. And I'd like to believe that everyone's dining out more and experiencing many, many restaurants. So we're going to talk about it as a world and a community together. The theme for next week's Listen, Bitch, is restaurants. And the full dining experience.

And what we really get from it. Dope. Thanks for listening to Miss Me. This is a Persephonica show.