Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! I’m On Me Holidays

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver answer your questions about holidays.Next week, we want to hear your questions about NATURE. Please send us a voice note on WhatsApp: 08000 30 40 90. Or, if you like, sen...d us an email: missme@bbc.co.uk.This episode contains very strong language, adult themes and graphic depictions of violence. Credits: Producer: Flossie Barratt Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Assistant Producer: Caillin McDaid Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

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Starting point is 00:00:00 BBC Sounds music radio podcasts This episode of Miss Me contains some very adult themes, some strong language, some graphic depictions of violence and that kind of stuff so just be prepared for that. Tune in! Welcome to Listen Bitch! Welcome to Listen Bitch! Welcome to Listen Bitch! This week we are talking about holidays! Yes they can be so fun
Starting point is 00:00:46 Can't they we should have a little bit of fun little in the next few weeks. Should we go shopping? No Let's just do this we have fun here just have our fun on air. Let's have fun and listen bitch Let's have our first question for this week's theme which is holidays holidays celebrate Let's have our first question for this week's theme, which is holidays. Holidays, celebrate holidays. I think we might sing that song quite a few times today. Hey Lillian Keats. My name is Georgia. I'm from Sydney, Australia.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Love you guys so, so, so much. I listen to the podcasts like every single day. Every week. Every other day. Question for holidays is what's your favourite way to spend a vacation style holiday? Do you like to relax? Do you like to, you know, research the city that you're going to?
Starting point is 00:01:37 Do you like to explore? Do you like, do you pack your itinerary? What do you do? Love y'all. Love you, Star. Cause you holiday more often. Do I like to go, do I like to research? Yes, in fact, so much so that I'm not really enjoying myself
Starting point is 00:01:53 on holiday because I'm researching where I could be enjoying myself more, particularly with where restaurants are concerned. I spend, you know, not really so much of a Yelp person or other sites, review sites, these days but... No, why would you trust them? I never trust those things. Please. Because I didn't know where else to go.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I know, but I just feel like Barry doesn't like, doesn't tell me what restaurants good in Italy. True, true say. But anyway, I love a good restaurant. I love a good local trattoria or a little bistro in France or a taverna in Greece, you know. Considering it's just like sort of an hour and a half of your day, I would spend probably six hours looking for where we should spend that hour and a half. Right, ratio-wise. Yeah, it doesn't really make much sense. Not so much local attractions, not really interested in that,
Starting point is 00:02:49 I'm not a big walker, don't really care for that kind of stuff. Unless I'm in like a big city like Rome or, you know, Mexico City or something where, you know, you've got to go and see the sights, but, you know, for the more sort of rural areas, no, I'm not really, I'm not really that bothered. I like a swimming pool. I really used to like the sun, not so keen on the sun. And now I get a bit too hot in my, in my old age. I feel like I need to, I need to be in the shade with a, with a book and- You're fine in Kenya. This is Lily and my mum on holiday, right? You know, those like
Starting point is 00:03:23 big extra, like the extra big beds that you get, they'd get up at the crack of dawn, or maybe sometimes just Lilded, to book these. And sometimes a number of them, two to three, so that we would just have an array of those bigger beds. So I feel like you do quite a lot of forward planning of the day as well. I'm like, oh no, there's no seats.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Like my mum and Lily would never let that happen. Mum like the night before is like, we better make sure we get that bed, yeah? Yes, very much so. There definitely needs to be some forward planning. You don't want to turn up somewhere and not be able to get a seat or you know, a beach club and you haven't got a table.
Starting point is 00:03:57 You know, it's not Glastonbury. The face card isn't working in some places, some parts of the world, non-English speaking countries particularly. In Greece, it's not working so well. It's not working in Greece as much. Do you get activity because no one will do activities on their own holiday and I'm like, let's get on a jet ski.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I've never been on a jet ski on a holiday and I'm very jet ski-y and no one will do these things with me. So I think I should go maybe like on a completely different kind of holiday, like a skiing holiday that's like based on the activity. Because I might not have said this on Miss Me, but I'm an incredibly gifted skier and completely true story. I don't know why every time you say that it just makes me laugh so much. It's unbelievable that you don't believe me. I do believe you. I do believe you. I just like, I just. What? An innisite kid. I just, I just want to see it. I just want to see it with my own eyes.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Me too. I want to check because this was also when I was 22. It's a little bit like you doing the marathon, you know? Like I need to see it with my own eyes. So all achievements are in the bullshit can. No, I went to Aspen with T4, which was a great night. We heard you told a story. Did I tell it? Did I tell it?
Starting point is 00:05:11 And then I wowed everyone. Did I tell that? Okay. So yeah, I'm going to look into more like activity-based holidays. So the holiday is based around- Well, when I went to Canada last year, that's kind of, you know, it was a bit of that, like lots of animal watching and a bit of walking and stuff, yeah. That was an amazing holiday you took.
Starting point is 00:05:30 That was full of so much. I really had a great time on that holiday. I will say my forward planning and my restaurants selection, it does work out well for other people because I save everywhere that I go if it's good to my Google Maps. I put it on a list so I have a list for every country that I visited. So if anyone says
Starting point is 00:05:51 I'm going to so-and-so or I'm going to Portugal or I'm going to you know Lisbon or Brazil, whatever and I've been there, I'll always send them my list of good restaurants. People are very grateful. I think the life hacking empire just built another arm. I think you've got to be like, you know what you should be. I think you're the new concierge service. What was that thing called? Do you think I've got a bit, do you think I'm in my goop era? It is goopy, but like no one's done it.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And everyone does wellness. This is something else. It's like organizing life empire. We're still not there yet. This is about like, this is about stationary and the best restaurants in Greece. Whatever that is. Whatever that world is. Good point. Let's save this. Let's save this. We've only done one question. Let's have another question.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Hey, Lily Makita. My name is Peppa from Stevenage. I just wondered if you guys prefer to go on holidays with friends or family because each group brings a different vibe to the trip, you know. Like they could even ruin the holiday or make it one of the most amazing holidays ever. Love you girls, Miss Me Live was great and I can't wait to see you both again soon and to see Lily at Header. Aww. Oh my Christ. She sounded like the sweetest person of all time.
Starting point is 00:07:02 What was her name? I'm following our trajectories. Pippa. Oh, Pippa from Stephen is she's come to Miss Me Live and going to see you in the theater. Thank you Pippa, you sweetheart. Love her. I'm gonna be more careful about who I go on holiday with
Starting point is 00:07:14 in our family from now on. I don't think it's a given that you're gonna have a great time just because you're all family. Absolutely not, almost the opposite. Not to be rude. That's so sweet. But then sometimes you can go on holiday with friends and there's a side to your friends that you've never,
Starting point is 00:07:32 has never been immediately obvious to you before, but then is glaringly obvious and you're like, I can't wait for this holiday to be over with me, to never speak to this person ever again. Yeah, I've had some of the worst fights with friends on holiday. Me and Lauren had a whopper in Barbados when we were 19. Oh shit. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I didn't even think we'd be friends after it. It's something about this is I think holidays don't actually bring out the best in people. And I know they're meant to. And then there's extra pressure on we're going on a holiday. So obviously we're all going to be our best at our best having our best time, which is just not strictly true. And I think if that pressure was taken off, people could fall apart a bit more on the holiday.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I think people are taken out of their routines and it makes people uncomfortable, especially traveling, not just the holiday, but people in the airport always look so vulnerable. People that you know are just totally normal in there every day. Suddenly they're in an airport and everyone looks like little children that don't really know who they are. And then so they just have a pint at the Wetherspoons at 7.15 a.m. I just think it really brings out the little child in us travel. I know what you mean. I don't think that I can make a call on whether it's friends or family. In fact, I would go as far to say that my favorite person to go on holiday with
Starting point is 00:08:43 is myself alone. I really like a lone holiday. Yeah, I've never done it. It's liberating. Yeah. But maybe more so if you've got children. I don't know, there's something about, as a parent you don't really get much time to yourself, right?
Starting point is 00:09:01 And so, I remember when Sam and I first broke up and I had like, the first time that I didn't have my kids over the summer, I remember when Sam and I first broke up and I had like, you know, the first time that I didn't have my kids over the summer, I just rented a car and went to Italy and just went and drove around on my own. And it was so nice and something that I really, I like to do. And I'm, I think I probably, it probably would have scared me before,
Starting point is 00:09:20 but now it's like, I love the idea of being on my own. I'm gonna do it. My mom went to Mexico after Sean died on her own for like three months and like made friends that she still has now. I always thought that was so brave to just go to Mexico on your own. Yeah, maybe I should do that.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Maybe that's the next, yeah, so. Where would you go if you weren't on your own? Italy, my dream is to pass my fucking driving test in the next few months and take myself, although I don't think I can rent a car for like a year and a half, but one day take myself to Italy and just go on a road trip. But I don't think I could do that on my own. That's my best Google list that I've got for the restaurants. Well, Italy. So maybe I'll take the Lily Allen like travel guide
Starting point is 00:10:05 and go on my own. It's just, I'm a bit of a scaredy cat at night time. If I tell you how many I've got, how many restaurants I've got in Italy. 129 places I've got in Italy. All of them absolute bangers. All right then. What, restaurants, where else?
Starting point is 00:10:20 No, little boutiques, clothes shops. Yeah, you found that banging secondhand shop in Italy when you were there. Yeah, that's on here. Oof. Pajama shops in Rome. Like, I've got hat shops, like just places, you know, that are very, very good.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Little black book. Exactly. Okay, let's have, you asked for another question, you know, in your native tongue. Can I have another echoeyster on the please? Hi, Lily and Makita. This is Callum. I am based in Litchfield. I used to be based in Manchester and I'm a marketing director of a marketing agency. Love the podcast and huge fan, Lily. I've been to see you on tour several times
Starting point is 00:11:05 and came to see you in 222 and hopefully get to see you in Bath in the play later this summer. My question is, what is your favorite holiday destination that reminds you of your childhood? You know, what was your kind of best childhood memory of going on holiday, whether it be staycation in the UK or getting abroad.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Hmm. Yeah. The best childhood memory I can think of. I'm trying to think about childhood holidays. Barge, barge. This is what we could talk about, the barge trips. We've talked about the barge. We did the barge episode one, my friend. Okay. And actually it was one of our only,
Starting point is 00:11:48 our only, I'd say childhood holidays together. Didn't really go on long. We went to Kenya. Yeah, but that was like... We ever done Ibiza? Oh god, I fucking hate Ibiza so much. I have to go back this year because lovely Ellie is getting married there and I wouldn't miss it for the world, but oh my god. I saw Ellie in Gorilla Bar.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Of course you did. Mm-hmm. Sorry. Don't, cause that will make me jealous. That actually will give me, that will make me annoyed. That makes me want to be there. Yeah, hey Ibiza, what's the question though? Childhood, sorry, places that we don't hate, happy places.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Happy childhood memories from, yeah, places you associate with childhood. Yeah, spine. Spine. Spine for me, spine. We didn't go on holiday on, I sound ridiculous, no, but with childhood. Yeah, Spain. Spain. Spain for me. Spain. We didn't go on holiday on, I sound ridiculous, no, but this is the truth, we didn't go on plane holidays until I was 11 and my auntie had got a house in Spain.
Starting point is 00:12:33 And I was like, really didn't wanna go again. Even when I was a kid, I was like, I don't wanna go to Spain for a week. My aunt was like, why not? I was like, it's gonna be really dry and dusty. That was my answer. And we got there and it was like absolutely beautiful. Nana's house is amazing.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Just had the greatest time. I knew then I needed to open my mind, but I still didn't. Willie and Cheyenne. No, it wasn't that summer. Yeah, so good memories of Spain a lot. Alarín, like Fuencarola, it was beautiful. And then when I was a teenager, the family went to Ibiza a lot, but that's one I hated. So I won't put that in this. That's not the
Starting point is 00:13:10 right answer for this question. Ibes. I do have from, I don't know, I just don't really remember much my childhood. So I can't really say where we went. Well, your side of the family do that. Your mum and all your cousins and you do that kind of annual Italy trip. But that only started like about 10 years ago. That started in my 20s.
Starting point is 00:13:35 When my mum was with Harry, who was my stepfather, Harry Enfield, we used to go to Suffolk. Oh yeah. We'd rent a house in Suffolk around Christmas and I have kind of fond memories of that. Sort of remember like doing lots of like hide and seek and stuff in the fields. I was this like big bigger boy called Jono that lived near there and I remember quite fancying him. Oh my God, is there anything sexier than like your first holiday crush? I just remembered mine, he was called Sam
Starting point is 00:14:08 and he was from Buckinghamshire and he was staying at Finca La Motta by Nana's house. And he was gorgeous. Wonder what he looks like now. He was blonde and tall and he played tennis a lot. And then he taught us how to play this card game called Gorbachev. And it was like some of the sexiest nights of my life, just staring at him, learning how
Starting point is 00:14:28 to play cards. I love a holiday crush when you're a kid, like your first ones, they just feel a bit spicier and a bit more exciting. I hear you dog. Right. Let's have another question. Hey, Lily and Makita. This is Holly. I'm 31 and I'm from St. Albans. On holidays, I love holidays much the next person. I love traveling. I love exploring new places. But sometimes when I'm on holiday, I tend to have a bit of an existential crisis. I think it's just being out of my routine and being kind of like left with my own thoughts. And these have resulted in good and bad things.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I've sort of come to the conclusion before that I've needed to break up with someone when I've been on a holiday or that I've needed to leave my job. But yeah, other times it can result in a bit of like too much internal reflection on my life. I can just spiral a bit. I think it also might be something to do
Starting point is 00:15:23 with the whole like organized fun of a holiday that you really feel like you have to be having an amazing time the whole time. Yeah, that tends to get me. And I just wondered if either of you have ever experienced this as well, or maybe it's just me being mentally unstable. But I love the podcast. Keep it up. Thank you. Bye. Holly from St Albans, this isn't your fault. If you watch TV, there are so many adverts about your summer holidays and getting it booked now and make sure you're not too late. And it's like, life isn't good
Starting point is 00:15:54 until you get on this summer holiday. And I think it's a really dangerous way to live. And that's why you then see loads of couples on holiday, not speaking to each other and with families sitting around going, oh, this is meant to be the time of our lives. It's just like anything else. However you're feeling about your life, you're saying you're going through
Starting point is 00:16:10 big life decisions and stuff, all that stuff comes with you, no matter where you go. So I think it's maybe about being on the holiday and expecting all your troubles to float away. And I don't think it's as simple as that. Yeah, I think it's quite normal. It's a time for reflection, isn't it, a holiday? So you know, normally people are too busy to be thinking about the bigger picture.
Starting point is 00:16:34 You know, when you go on holiday, that's when everything stops and you're, you know, confronted with a lot. Yeah. I guess maybe that's why some people like to have really like activity-based holidays because the idea of actually sitting there in their stillness and with themselves and having to reflect like that is perhaps too much for them. I just remember quite a lovely magical moment
Starting point is 00:16:59 that we had there when we were on the boat that Charles sorted out in Lamu. You were being quite sweet and lovely. I suddenly remembered that we were going to start this podcast thing when we got home. I remember thinking, God, I wonder what will happen. I wonder what it will be like. I was feeling quite contemplative and reflective of our whole lives. I will always remember. I've got a really nice picture of it, actually. I think we used it. It missed me life. I've been a little on the boat, having a lovely time.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And I quite liked that particular time in Kenya together because we were on the precipice of so much that we didn't know was about to happen. So I think I'll always remember Kenya as like the bit before all this Miss Me craze in us. So I think it is nice to be reflective. But I just can't with the making memories, like please, just that is too much pressure for anyone.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Everything's a fucking memory. I know, I got really annoyed actually with my cousins because when they came back from, sorry to mention that again, glass and breathe, they were like, me and Nell were, my Gracie, my cousin, who's incredibly neurotic, was like, me and Nell didn't get any pictures. I was like, so?
Starting point is 00:18:04 What are you gonna do with them? Yeah. She was like, you know, for the memories. It's like. Right here, Gracie Poo. I hate when people say this, like, what are they gonna do, lie in bed, like looking at memories?
Starting point is 00:18:15 Fucking hate that. I hate that function of the phone, by the way, when it just like regurgitates things at you that you've never asked for. It's like, do you think I want to be reminded of my first marriage? Like every fucking six months for some reason. It's just like, here's all of the people
Starting point is 00:18:31 that are no longer your friends anymore. That you spent lots and lots of money on making sure they had a lovely time. No one talks to you, no one talks to you anymore. You know that year you were so depressed you couldn't see straight. Yeah, let's just show you a couple different memories Fucking nice. I don't go back there
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah, I was thinking we might need to be able we might need to do that on listen bitch and a fellow this bit We've done a phone. Let's get I will say you know you can mute people your whole human beings from your iPhone from your camera Fantastic. Yeah, you can you can like choose someone's face and just go like, no, never again. Don't wanna see it. No more them. Take them all out. And then you never see them. I think I've got most of them out, but there might be a few still trickling around. There's definitely a few poking around in there.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Yeah. Can we have, we're going to have a break now. We're gonna have a break. Welcome back to Listen Bitch. This is the second part, second part of Listen Bitch. Hope everyone's still with us, having a nice time, reminiscing about holidays. Part 2. Part 2. Holiday celebrate.
Starting point is 00:19:41 You know the kids now, when I took Phoebe's kids, when we went to France with them, I played a game where every time I said holiday, they'd be like, celebrate. And now if I'm like four rooms away, and I'll be like, holiday. You just hear two kids go, celebrate. So sweet.
Starting point is 00:19:59 They don't even know who Madonna is. No, mine don't. She came up the other day and they were like, oh. And what? What to Madonna? Can you imagine? Mm. I mean, they only know her in the religious context,
Starting point is 00:20:12 obviously, not, of course, not pop music. Can we have another question about holidays? Mm, yeah, you sure can. Hiya, my name is Shot and I live in Cheltenham. I wanted to message in with a question about your best or most ridiculous holiday disaster. Mine was actually as a child. I've got some other holiday disasters, which I won't share, but this one was where we went on holiday. There were six of us on the way back from our holiday in the south of France. We were coming
Starting point is 00:20:42 back in our big bus van thing with all of our stuff just thrown in the boot and halfway up the motorway, the car caught on fire. We all had to pile out of the car, put it out and the car was no more. There was no getting that car back to the UK. We had to get all our dirty underwear out of the car, put it in multiple taxis as we got all the way back up to go across on the ferry and then go on the ferry as foot passengers with all our stuff to top it all off. I had flu, so I vomited in every taxi we hired on the way back home. So it's quite a memorable trip. But yeah, tell me what holiday disasters have you guys
Starting point is 00:21:21 had? Well, there was a time where I was the disaster. Oh no, not you. And I actually feel so bad about this. Yeah. I was such a bitch to Garfield. And you know what? Now, I'm so glad to say his mom had passed away unexpectedly about two months previously.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And I was so selfish and in my own head, I just forgot. I don't know what happened. I'd gone to Grimmie's Christmas party the night before and I don't know why. Maybe I just had like a weird night or something. Next day I just woke up in the foulest mood and we had decided to drive to France to see Phoebe, me, Nanny, Mom, Garf, and Scout in the car
Starting point is 00:21:59 and like on the ferry. And I was despicably behaved. I was vile. And it got to the point where they were like, we got to the ferry and like Gar the ferry and I was despicably behaved. I was vile and it got to the point where they were like we got to the ferry and like Garfield and Mum kicked me out and then I had said that I wasn't going and walking up and all these like armed whatever like security at the ferry were like what the fuck is she doing? I was just I'm so ashamed of that behavior and I spent the rest of that Christmas holiday in France making up for it and possibly spent the last five five years actually making up for that spickle behavior. That's all I'll say on that matter because I'm an absolute delight to my family and a real team player.
Starting point is 00:22:32 But I don't know what happened. I haven't ever behaved that badly and I haven't since and I never will again. But I caused the disaster that was the beginning of that France trip. But maybe it's just my advice is don't decide to drive with your whole family and a dog to France over three days. It was tough. It was a tough. Nothing is immediately coming to mind, but I know that I've had some disasters. I've definitely spent the time in police stations, like filing missing passport reports, money being stolen. Oh, dear. Okay, I think this is our penultimate question.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Okay, penultimate question, please. Hi, Lillian Makita. This is Kirsty. I'm from Manchester. The topic of holidays is really timely as I have just booked one. We're off to Spain in October. I absolutely love a holiday. And all of my favourite memories are with my two best friends Nicola and Jamie who are also avid mischievousness. So a bit of a shout out to them. We've done tons of girls' holidays and they are always relentlessly mad. But this year's holiday is going to look a little different. I now have a beautiful baby daughter.
Starting point is 00:23:42 She's 10 months old. We're still doing the girls holiday, but my partner and baby are coming with us. So it's gonna look very different, very different vibes. I would love some advice from you, Lily, on how to have a great holiday with a baby or child. I'm excited, but also a little petrified. Thank you, love the podcast. Keep up the good work, girls. Thank you, we will.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Thank you. Thank you, yes, we will. Did you take Ethel when she was really young away? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like months, months old. Where did you go? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I just remember being on planes with the babies. I would say my top tip for children and travel would be, you know when you're at the airport and you go to board the plane and they always say, can the families with small children come up first? Rookie, rookie mistake. Last thing you want, because let's be honest, from the first person getting on that plane,
Starting point is 00:24:36 it's 45 minutes, maybe an hour, till you're taking off. Why would you want to have a small child in a restricted space for an hour? Really, it should be the other way around. Small children at the end, yes. Should be, once everyone else is seated, it'll be like, now we will have the families with small children, thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:55 It's about as stupid as people queuing up to get on a fucking plane, which is ticketed and seat numbered. Also, I love those like, speedy boarding and your different groups. And you're like all gathered at the gate and it's like, why do they do that? Because this is the thing, it's something about playing
Starting point is 00:25:13 that people are like, I just got to get on it. I just got to get on it. It's like, why? That's the way at the last moment to get on and then let's get the fuck off it. I don't understand why the need to be like, oh, they called our number. It's like, and now you're just going to queue here, which is surrounded by seats. Just sit and
Starting point is 00:25:29 wait till the, I literally am the last person on the plane. What is it? Do you think it's because people just want to get to a point where they can relax, so they're just desperate to get on the plane so they can just sit down, not think about it? Everyone, that's what I mean. No one likes traveling. It makes everyone feel very vulnerable. This kid came around to the house, this woman called Alex, the works of my mom, it's her son. And she, we were working the signal and he was like, can I put on an air traffic disasters or something? I was like, yeah, all right. And what he put on there was so horrific.
Starting point is 00:26:01 It was like this plane crash going to like Hawaii in the 90s and the whole roof of the plane came off and these people, Lily, like however high up, and like this for like 15 minutes, people's like scalps coming off and skin coming off, like the sun burning down on them. For 15 minutes like this, no roof on this plane while they tried to, I haven't flown since,
Starting point is 00:26:25 and me and mom are going to Mexico for work in September, and I'm fucking terrified to get on the plane. I'm suddenly really scared. I've got a good list for Mexico. Whereabouts are you going? I don't know, we're doing the Hay Festival in Mexico with Nana and Neymar. Must be Mexico City, surely.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah, imagine. I've got an excellent, excellent restaurant list for you. I mean, can I get your list? Absolutely. I mean, I'll take these. I feel really honored that I'll be at the beginning. I'll be the person that got the transcripts of the empire. Let me chest it out, figure out how to build this.
Starting point is 00:26:57 All right, let's have a last question, because there are dogs in my house and they will not stop barking. Hi, Lillian McKe key to my name's Emma. I'm currently walking my dogs in the wire forest and this week's topics holidays. And I just wondered what your feelings were about camping. Now, I do not consider camping a holiday. When our children were little,
Starting point is 00:27:27 we didn't really have the money to do nice holidays. So we sort of did camping holidays in the UK. In the end, I sold the tent because it was not a holiday. Had a couple of horrific experiences. Do you guys have any horrible camping stories or do you enjoy it? Have you had got some good camping stories? Love the podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:55 You keep me smiling. Take care both of you, bye. Absolutely not. Camping is not enjoyable in the slightest and I would only do it if someone was paying me or if I had to be on a Duke of Edinburgh course for some reason. But no, absolutely not camping. Have you got any camping stories, Keats? Yeah, I'm actually going on holiday with my dad and my brother. We're going to the Highlands
Starting point is 00:28:25 because I really want to see the Highlands more of it because I went last year for that thing I did with mum. We were talking, we were sort of organizing it on FaceTime the other day. And my brother, it was me, my brother and my dad. And I was like, sorry, just to clarify, I'm not fucking camping anywhere. And they were like, oh, okay, well, we'll camp and you can get a hotel room. And now I feel like the sort of like, you know, silly princess like, well, I'll go to the hotel, maybe I should just like roughing camp in the highlands. I wouldn't bother. I were in the in the world wide COVID-19 pandemic. I don't know if you remember. We put up a tee TV in the garden where we were staying in the countryside with the kids and that was just enough.
Starting point is 00:29:15 The TV in the garden. Just absolutely. No. And every time the kids go off to spend time with their dad in the summer, they're always like, we're going camping this weekend. And I'm like, more power to you Sam for doing that. But that's one part of my child's childhood that I'm really not willing to get involved in. And I will feel no guilt or shame about it. It's the only thing my mom ever camped with me.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I can't really see my mom in a tent, to be honest. Alison, camp, no, no. Absolutely not. My mom and your mom are not campers. No. But great that your ex-husband is a co-parent that will give them that and you don't have to have anything to do with it.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah. Dedicated father and adventurer. That's right. Thank you, Sam, for giving them all that and Lily doesn't have to. All those memories you're giving my kids, thank you. Thank you. But no, no camp, no sorry,
Starting point is 00:30:08 I might be brave and camp with my brother and my father. We'll see, we'll see how it goes. See how it goes. Anything can happen, it's the summer of 2025, who knows? We've had enough so hot surprises this year. You never know what's around the corner. You really don't. Except I do know what's around the corner. You really don't. Except I do know what's around the corner
Starting point is 00:30:26 is the end of this show and you have it to pick the next subject. The theme for next week's Listen Bitch is nature, the natural world around us and all that it gives us. See where that takes us. Okay, nature. Love that, love that for you.
Starting point is 00:30:47 If you have anything to say or ask, well maybe not ask us, because me and Makeda are not particularly knowledgeable on this subject, but please do feel free to send your voice notes to 08000 30 40 90. That's 08000 30 30, 40, 90. Yes, for instance, you did touch upon your mountainous holiday in Canada,
Starting point is 00:31:10 and you saw things that changed you. Let's talk about things that this world has shown us that have changed us. Okay, thank you so much, Keats. It's been so nice talking to you. Thank you, stick a fork in me. I am done. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I am hot, and I am sizzling, and I am done. Absolutely. I am hot and I am sizzling and I am done. Bye. Thanks for listening to Miss Me with Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver. This is a Persephoneca production for BBC Sounds. In the beginning, they just called it the thing. Cuba, 2016. All the ducks started barking just called it the thing. Cuba, 2016. All the dogs started barking and then a loud sound.
Starting point is 00:31:49 It felt like my head was in a vice. This jarring, disorienting pain. The first American CIA agents and diplomats began to hear a sound. They were shaken and very anxious. This is something not natural. This was some kind of focused beam. The thing seemed to be attacking them. It's not accidental.

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