Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! Much A Poo About Nothing

Episode Date: May 27, 2024

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver answer your questions about poo. Do they have any traumatic poo experiences? Is it ok to poo around partners? Why is it medically important to check your poo?Next week, we want to hear your questions about SABOTAGE. Please send us a voice note on WhatsApp: [phone]. Or, if you like, send us an email: [e-mail] episode contains very strong language, extremely graphic sexual references and adult themes, including cancer and child birth, which some people may find upsetting.If you're affected by anything you hear in this episode you can find more support at bbc.co.uk/actionline.Producer: Jonathan O’Sullivan Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds.

This is the BBC. This podcast is supported by advertising outside the UK. on Rogers Internet. Visit rogers.com for details. We got you. Rogers. BBC Sounds. Music, radio, podcasts. A gentle warning, this episode of Miss Me contains very strong language and some extremely graphic

sexual references. We also talk about cancer and childbirth. Keats, have you heard Espresso by Sabrina Carpenter? I haven't heard the song Espresso. What? I haven't heard it, but I was obviously intrigued when I realised she was sleeping with Barry Keogh. I was like, ooh, it was this chick.

You know that apparently the person that Olivia Rodrigo is singing about in driver's license was Sabrina Carpenter's boyfriend like it's about that love triangle oh no way I love just a little bit of trivia for you there I'm intrigued yeah do you know anything else anyway Sabrina Carpenter and espressopresso, Sound of the Summer. I'm working late because I'm a singer. Oh, he looks cute right round my finger. Excuse me. There's another bit, though, that's like, Too bad your ex don't do it for you.

Walked in and dream came true before you. Saw skin and I perfumed it for you. I know I'm out and do it for you do you know which song i think personally influenced that song fast love then looking for the details baby but i'm gonna get my mind and i'll make a minute you can help me is my mind. I'm working late. Cause I'm a singer. Oh, he looks cute. Hang on, Lily. Round my finger. Lily, shut the fuck up.

Okay, whatever. I just can't help myself. A well-crafted pop song is a well-crafted pop song. Okay? So you're saying that middle bit, when she goes a bit faster, is possibly ripping off. Not ripping off.

Sampling fast, love. Not ripping off. Inspired by. Inspired by by can we do a karaoke edition we'll figure out how we can afford listen bitch the karaoke version because i'd be into it welcome to listen bitch lily is vocal today she's singing you can't shut her up you can't stop her today no matter what anyone tries welcome i think it was in the Peugeot 206. And one time you just said, listen, bitch. And I was like, ooh, that touched me somewhere good. Listen, bitch.

It's just nice people say it to me on the street now. I'm like, God, if only listen, bitch knew how far it would travel. You know, it's not ours now. It's everyone. Listen, bitch. More money, more problems. Actually, we're not going to mention P. Diddy on this episode of Listen,. But speaking of pieces of shit, this week's episode of Listen Bitch theme is... Poo.

We've chatted quite a lot of shit. Shall we just take this to the floor? First question, please. Hi, Lily. I'm Makita. My name's Holly and i come from bristol i have a question for you but i need to preface it with a story so you understand the reason why i'm asking it so i am very allergic to dairy products and when i eat any kind of dairy product i lose total and utter control of my bumhole. And on one occasion, I was out with my friend for dinner. And at the end of the evening, we met up with my boyfriend to walk home because we were staying at my

boyfriend's house in Cheltenham. Unfortunately, I had eaten dairy on this dinner. And so during the walk home, I got a sudden urge to have a poo. And I decided that as we were staying at his parents' house, I really, really didn't want to turn up to his parents' house with poo in my pants. And so instead, I made the decision to make brown on the clean, clean streets of Cheltenham. And at the moment that I'd done it, I suddenly realised that as I have no toilet roll, I'm still going to be in the predicament of turning up to his parents' house with poo in my pants. And so my boyfriend got a squirty bottle of water out of my bag and asked me to bend over and pull apart my bum cheeks and in front of my friend he bum gunned my bum

clean and it was in that moment that I thought this guy is a treasure and I think that contributed to us recently celebrating our 10 years of being very much in love so my question is have any incidents or experiences relating to poo helped you to decipher that somebody is very much a human being that you want in your life for a very long time that's where we were going to after all that journey that poo journey I just have been reminded by that story this is so embarrassing but not involving me and you no it's not involving me and you but it involves I mean it's kind of serious but also yeah I mean when I had been through what was possibly the worst experience of my life the stillbirth of my son George I you know as many people do when they are in a state of

depression they lose all sight of their personal hygiene right and their cleanliness and and that was something that just slipped by the wayside with me during that period of time I literally couldn't talk for like you know three months four months and I remember um going to do like a round of tests that I'd done with the doctor afterwards because I think I just found out that I was pregnant again but I refused to talk to the doctor to do the follow-up stuff so Sam my husband at the time was doing all of those conversations and was relaying information that I needed unto me. And he came into my bedroom. I've just got off the phone with Dr. Colin Davis.

And he says that your urine sample has come back and there's feces in your urine. And I was like, oh, that sounds scary. And he was like, I don't think it's anything to worry about but he just asked me to remind you to wipe from front to back wipe your fucking ass properly and I was like oh love you yeah so was that discourse between you and Sam a moment where you thought right so we're in love yeah we're together that's nice yeah can you start wiping your bum from front to back and stop having shit in your wee thank you very much oh my god um yeah this is gonna make me feel away this episode uh i learned two things from the lovely lady from uh bristol

made brown on the street and her boyfriend bum gunned her. Like it was just common parlance. Unbelievable. I like that you just went to just go straight into the shit on the street. I think that you did the right thing actually. I think the worry about turning up all stinky and pooey would have

probably put a real downer on the whole evening. A real downer on the whole evening. Thank you for sharing that story with us i can't wait to hear more mickey you're loving this episode on you already i can just tell um give me another question for listen rich hey girls i hope you're okay it's joe from london here now i wanted to start my question with a quick story so i'm the same age as you two and i don't know if you remember but the tube platforms in the 90s used to have vending machines on them. Anyway I would run up and down the tube platform

checking the vending machines to see if anyone had left anything behind like coins or forgotten chocolate. One day I was running down the platform and I found that one of the vending machine doors was left open. So of course I ambitiously stuck my hand into the machine and someone had shit in the machine. Now I don't know if someone had placed a dog turd in there or had strategically pooped in there. Anyway, my tiny little hand was covered in poo. So I guess my question is, do you have any traumatic poo stories? Yeah, great. I do. Yes. I was like, it's just to tell us about this. I'm sorry that happened to you.

That's so disgusting. Can you imagine thinking you're going to get away with a free chocolate bar and instead you get a handful of shit? I think someone put a dog poo in there. How would you poo in that little... It's quite an interesting angle, right? Let's think about the metrics of that. Right? Logistically, I don't think that would work.

So I think someone just did that with dog poo. So don't you worry. My dramatic experience with poo was with Lily poo so don't you worry my traumatic experience with poo was with Lily actually do you remember when we went to Morocco yeah

Lily hadn't had a holiday in a long time you've been working like a maniac for like two years and I hadn't had a holiday and you were like do you want to come to Morocco

I was like just me and you four days and we had that hotel like to ourselves do you remember and I got food poisoning did you get it as well

don't think so like remember the last night we got food poisoning did you get it as well don't think so like remember the last night we got food poisoning i think we both got it and then we had to fly the next day and um did you get caught short just the most horrific experience of my life i didn't get caught short but it was just the the idea that i could be and it was a really tricky flight home i remembered that like food poisoning and what happens with food poisoning you just gotta be at home you can't be in sort of travel when you're up Schitt's Creek as it were oh I like what you did there I had diarrhea once when I was on stage that was a bit of a disaster no yeah no in um what outfit were you wearing I can't remember

but I remember I've sort of managed to hold it in or I'd like, I'd not eaten, you know, because I knew that my tummy was dodgy. So I hadn't eaten that afternoon. But during the show, I'd obviously been drinking. And so when I had to come off for the encore, I was desperate to go to the toilet. I think I was playing in like Montreal, Vancouver,

somewhere in Canada. It was quite big, maybe like, you know, a couple of thousand cap, maybe 3000 cap or or something and then ran up the stairs to the toilet sat on the toilet the heavens opened shall we say and I just remember sitting on the toilet and thinking oh my god this isn't stopping and then suddenly hearing Lily Lily Lily Lily, Lily, Lily, Lily, Lily, getting louder and louder and louder. And this diarrhea did not stop it. No.

It just would not stop. What a combination. Eventually it did. And the Lily, Lily, Lily's had sort of died down. And I started panicking, thinking, oh my God, people are going to be leaving. They're thinking I'm not coming out for the encore. And then I came out and I just was,

I was just straight with everyone. I said, I'm really sorry, I've got tired. Did you tell the audience? Yeah they thought it was hilarious. Okay can we have another question for Listen Bitch? Hi Lillian Makita it's Sophia here calling from my mother's spare room in Lincolnshire. I yelped with excitement when you said that the next subject was going to be poo for listen bitch because I'm not lying that I was listening to miss me and I'm sorry to say this whilst I was having a poo wireless headphones I feel like that's quite key and I did genuinely have the thought wonder if they'd ever do poo as a subject so here I go um I'm very open with my partner I am not really embarrassed

very easily and one of the things I'm not embarrassed about is if he sees or hears me doing a poo I will also happily walk in on him doing a poo whether he loves that or not is a different story however it doesn't bother me whatsoever a lot of my friends are the complete opposite and dread the thought of their partner ever hearing or seeing them shit. And I just wondered how you feel in that situation. Are you an open pooer with your partners or past partners? How do you feel about that subject?

Maybe I shouldn't have done this anonymously. I don't know. I love you. Sophia, as the open poo-er you seem to be, there's no anonymity here. Anonymity. Anonymity here. Let's just talk about this.

Deep question. Now, Lily, you live in quite a large space with your husband. But not everyone is so lucky. Including my mum and dad about a year ago. They lived in a very small flat for about, well, their whole relationship was just coming up to 30 years and also before that very small flats and my mum hates garfield's toilet kind of habits not even habits just like he tells everyone but garfield lets you know he's like oh okay i'm just gonna go have a shit and then get the newspaper and roll a cigarette i'm like i don't. But he brings you with him on his journey.

He then also goes into the toilet, proceeds to stay in there for up to like sometimes an hour. What the fuck are you doing? Do men just like to sit in their own smell, as it were? Yeah, I think so. I remember when we lived with my dad, you remember in that flat in Bloomsbury. Do you remember when I lived there like for the beginning of my life and it only had you know one like toilet that was right next to the bathroom so the toilet wasn't even in the bathroom it was in a room next door but it was just on its own

and there was only one in the flat on the sunday my dad would go and sit in there with the sunday papers and he just everyone would have to go to the loo before him because we all knew that we weren't going to be able to use the toilet for the rest of the day it was like when um like rawhide and the little house on the prairie and go what's your sunday channel four you know there was nothing else on so we would just be waiting for my dad to finish shitting with the papers what what is that like sort of luxuriating in your own shit all day this is what i'm'm saying. It's like, get in and out. But to answer Sophia's question, really quite straightforwardly,

I thought this was really good in the old days when it came up as an issue on Sex and the City. I thought, oh, thank you for talking about this. Because she gets, Carrie's all over excited because she does a number two at Big's house. And then Samantha's like, I don't give a shit. And Charlotte's like, that is the end of romance. And then Miranda's like, oh yeah give a shit and Charlotte's like that is the end of romance and then Miranda's like oh yeah I spent a whole holiday with a boyfriend using the toilets in

the hotel and I thought yeah I've done that I did that with Julian when I was 18 in the Dominican Republic my boyfriend when I was 18 I couldn't bear it and I think even now no way I have two bathrooms in my house thank god but no boyfriend so I don't have that issue when I start seeing someone again it's actually quite handy I don't really poo in front of David and he doesn't poo in front of me but he's probably the first partner that's been like that maybe it's a sign of growth yeah because you like to poo in front of me you have no problem no problem yes interesting when was the last time I pooed in front of you I can't remember the last time probably probably on holiday no no no no not this holiday I did pooed in front of you? I can't remember the last time. Probably on holiday.

No, no, no, no. Not this holiday. I did not poo in front of you on this holiday. Okay, so then the most prominent time I can remember was your 33rd birthday or something at the pub in the Cotswolds. Yeah, yeah, that's all right. So usually when we're out...

That tracks. It was quite long. Westbourne Studios, like, just like, OK, so you're going to poo, OK. Well, alcohol's a big trigger for me, poo trigger. Oh, is it? Yeah. That's probably why you haven't done it since that birthday, yeah.

Yes, I did do a poo on the way back from Nashville. I did a poo on the aeroplane. It was quite an old aeroplane. And I don't know, when you do a poo on an aeroplane, you're always, like, quite safe in the knowledge that it's got that, like, vacuum suction thing thing it's going to suck all of the smell and everything out with it and I did this poo and I was like oh okay this is a bit stinky but it's all right I'm going to flush it and it's all going to go and then I flushed it and it was literally like one

of those things where the shelf just refracts and it just like dropped in and there was no suction and it was a really tiny plane and I was just like oh my god i've got to open this door and it's going i'm gonna go one way and everyone's gonna know that it was me and it's just so embarrassing but i did it it was fine it's human what happened you opened the door and it's staying can you like anyway yeah i was like whatever i stood in my power i stood in my food power and i opened that door and I walked through I opened that door and I walked right out of that toilet yes that was me yeah so what we're in Nashville I ate barbecue what did you say

barbecue for lunch deal with it I can safely say I don't think i've ever pooed on a plane and now i fucking never will after that terrible yeah we'll just make sure it's like built after the 1970s and you'll be all right but this plane was old can we have another poo related question please hello lilia makita my name's kate i live in bristol i'm originally from Derby and I want to talk about poo. My sister died last summer. She died of bowel cancer. She was too young and too fit to have bowel cancer. But because of that and because she was a woman, a lot of her symptoms had been dismissed for the previous few years as gynecological or perimenopause. So my question to you guys is, do you know the importance of checking your poo and the importance

of advocating for yourself medically? Sally would have been 50 on the 28th of May, which I think will be the day after this podcast is released. So happy birthday, sis. I hope you're both well and healthy and are advocating for your health. Have a great day. Thanks. Bye. Thank you so much for that. Honestly, for just like being so open and honest about something so awful that you've been through.

And actually we have been, I guess this is the age, we're talking more about our health and actually we have been I guess this is the age we're talking more about our health and how we look after it there are so many stories that you hear that are similar where it's just about misdiagnosis and things that you just don't think as a woman you'll have or as a woman in your 30s that you'll have or do you know what I mean it's like it's so important that's why it's important to I'm not saying for us to make this a subject on our podcast, but it's so important to be honest and open. So according to the NHS website, the three main symptoms of bowel cancer are blood in the stools, which is poo, and a change in bowel habits such as more frequent looser stools and abdominal tummy pain. Information on bowel cancer and the screening program can be

found on the nhs uk website you quite often hear about women's pain especially in that region being dismissed as like just something that we should anticipate and cope with and not often offered adequate pain relief or further investigation. I think it's a really important conversation to be having. Thank you so much for that question. Thank you so much. We're going to go for a little break. The subject of poo is taking us to many different places. You were right, Lily.

You were right. I was wrong. Poo was good. Is. We're still in poo. We are still in poo. We will see you after the break. Still in deep shit.

There it is. Welcome back to Listen Bitch. This week's theme is poo. And I believe we have a question from Jenny. I wonder where Jenny is, Lil. Lily Makita. i'm loving the podcast thank you so much um it's jenny from cambridge speaking here um and i have got a question on your next listen bitch topic about poo it's not about toilet humor it's just a bit gross

but i want to talk about anal sex so i've got a mate and she was having anal sex with this guy and she ended up shitting all over her bedsheets and I wondered if maybe it's too personal to ask if anything like this has happened to either of you but do you have any stories in your friendship group of horrific accidents of such nature? And how did they go down? I want all the disgusting details. I want all the disgusting details. Pete's over to you, I think.

Fuck you. What I have to say is weird, which is I've... I don't want to... She loves a bit of anal. I know what I was going to say. I've never partaken in that, so I couldn't possibly comment. That's really revealing.

Wait, you've never had anal sex? No. No, that's bullshit. No, it's not. Thank you. What are you basing this on? I'm sure we've had a conversation about it. I thought it was...

No. Wait, you mean you've never had anal sex? I've never partaken in that. No. Not interested in it. Oh, oh, oh. I mean, like... Not even a little finger in there?

This is a bit much for our forecast, don't you think? Absolutely not. I don't understand that. I really don't understand that either way round. What the fuck okay well i am a bit of a prude but i i know that anal sex you have to it's it i don't think it makes you particularly like salaciously uh sexual to enjoy anal sex i just have never partaken in it no listen i'm not like a big um anal sexer What would you like to call?

I'm not a big what? I mean, you know. You love it, don't you? No, I'm actually, I actually don't really enjoy anal sex, but I think that you should try it once. No, sorry, actually, I tell a lie. Someone did it with me a bit. Did it with me a bit.

And I was like, whatever that is, I'm not into it. I really want to say his name now, but that would be too far. We're like 40-year-old women. We should not be laughing this much at something that's not that. I know. For fuck's sake. Like, this is meant to be a grown-up place. We are being grown up.

You think it's worth checking out, yeah? Go on. Tell me one reason why it's something we should explore no go on because it's just a different feeling and you might enjoy the feeling but the bit of the feeling i had i didn't like at all so i imagine more of that feeling wouldn't be yeah i don't know you've got to push those sometimes you've got boundaries you know you've got to push on you. You've got to push on through. You can't always get what you want, but you can try sometimes. You might find you get what you need.

Get what you need. It's all right. Okay, then. Thanks, Mick Jagger and Lily Allen. Let's have another question. Hopefully it takes us to Village Fates. Hello, ladies. It's Rebecca from Swindon here.

Just messaging in about the lovely topic of poo um i know you said you wanted two people or more this week but my work friends abandoned me to go on holiday for two weeks anyway conversation of poo i am currently parenting a two-year-old so his poo in particular seems to be the forefront of everybody's minds at the moment which is glorious but my thoughts are maybe getting some opinions why does nobody acknowledge the first poo you do after you've given birth now i don't know if it's any different if you have a c-section i have no clue again intrigued to know because i am a grown woman i've done many a poo in my life but jesus christ those first two poos after each of my children were horrendous so um yeah thoughts on why this is not discussed more openly and maybe used as a deterrent for not wanting children

anymore thanks both how fucking bad is it i actually can't really remember i mean i do now that she's saying it i seem to remember there being like a warning from my obstetrician who was like you know it is gonna hurt the first one but i don't i can't really remember much more detail than that i think i think maybe because with marnie i'd torn uh so I was given a couple of extra stitches um and so that put extra pressure on when the poo came out and yeah it was effing painful but I had forgotten about it until now so thank you for reminding me blacked it out so is it because you're all raw and it's the second thing to come out of this it's a baby yes I mean it's taken a battering in the um birth it sounds like a train journey i don't want to get on okay yeah you definitely want your stool

to be a bit looser after you've given birth so but watch what you eat yeah no roast beef sandwiches it's just a celebration for the baby can we have have another question, please? Hey, Lily and Makita. It is Lottie here. I'm 31 and I am in the Cotswolds, not too far, Lily, from where you used to live when you were in these parts. My question is related to dog poo. So I have a spaniel and out here in the countryside

is not that many poo bins when you're out on a walk. So for my birthday this year, my mum bought me this little zip-up bag that you essentially put your poo bag in and then carry around with you for the rest of the walk and my husband thinks this is the most disgusting thing ever but I love it because it means I don't have to carry a poo bag around with me for the rest of the walk as a fairly new dog owner Makita I just wondered what your opinion was on this is it gross or is it kind of handy? That was really sweet.

I really feel like everyone's trying to bring me into the parenting conversation. Thank you. Yes, as a new dog owner. Thank you. It's nice to have someone to relate to. I've got those bags. It's just all so horrible, isn't it? I just hate dealing with it.

But those bags, the bags I have are odoured. So they smell fine. But I'm like you, I can't hold them for more than two seconds, so I just find a bin. Don't chuck it in your handbag. Don't chuck it in my handbag. I like that you've got a Cocker Spaniel as well.

Is she going to be nuts forever? Please tell me. It makes you realise, like, how quickly you become kind of immune to it, like, because, you know, when people have babies, you're like, my God, it's nappy, and, I mean, it's been two months with this dog i don't even notice anymore i'm just like poo done out go you just become like a poo production line don't you really um so i think if anything

it's preparing me for the pooing of a toddler and a baby i imagine i get how intense that is more now so thank you zeddy can we have our last question for listen bitch today please hi william makita this is michelle from long island who is like the biggest topic of conversation and it's such a good one because there's so many different avenues your gut is directly related to how you feel whether it's mental health or physical health or all of these things. But there's nothing more stressful than like having a poo problem. How do you feel about this is something that I just learned. There is this thing called poo transplant. Obviously, it's not what it's called. You basically take someone else's poo and put it exactly where you think and if you haven't

heard of this look it up it's very interesting but how would you feel if someone told you they could cure all your problems by putting someone else's poo inside of you okay love the podcast goodbye wait what so what they this poo is transplanted from one person to another i'm looking it up yeah but how do you pick whose poo you want? That's like picking someone's sperm to make a child. I mean, how do you decide? I just can't. Is it like the placenta thing,

where you can send your placenta off and they make it into pills? It's donations, apparently. Donations. What are you doing this afternoon? I'm just going off to donate some of my shit babes. You know? Just doing my bit. Gotta do my part interesting though that it would cure or help people with bacterial issues and how much would you eat a shit sandwich for now i've actually thought about this no i'm not joking

what is your number because in times of my career being in the doldrums dead out like natinville i've been asked to do i'm a celebrity yeah i got that call yeah that's fine check every year for like six years thanks and uh i always said no for reasons of like just like self-worth hey don't knock it i like i'm a celebrity i'd go on i'm a celebrity i don't want to be on tv that badly and i don't even mean eating the weird i just don't i don't put myself through all that torturous anyway don't want to eat a kangaroo ball i'll probably stop being arse now weirdo this is why the sandwich thing came up for me because i was like i don't know how disgusting i'd find half this stuff when i'm a celebrity like kangaroo ball no i wouldn't really care like whatever but human pieces in like a mighty white

sandwich i just can't how much what is your number everyone's got a number oh there is no number okay i really want to buy my flat so maybe how much of it do i have to eat the whole thing oh latest five million five two million two million that was a jump i won't go down anymore okay but i could have i've got a million pounds two million hash stressed over there i'll give it to you if you eat a shit sandwich a million pounds tax-free okay you had me at tax-free honestly i did this for you we've all had a good time i've got to stop talking about poo now okay thank you everyone for being so open and sharing their shit with us today. And that is the last pun of today's Listen Bitch Pooh episode.

What, pray tell, is next week's subject? You threw out some whoppers when we were chatting the other day and I was like, save them, save them. Holy shit, is it my go? Yes. Oh no. Oh my God. Well, you know there's that one I liked yeah okay i got it the theme for next week's listen bitch is sabotage

i am a self-sabotage i'm gonna have so many stories for ya. Yes! Drop that just in time. Nice one, Will. I'm not really a saboteur, but I have been saboteured. I'll get the wording right for next week. Sorry, are you fucking serious? You think that you're not a self-saboteur? Okay, sure.

Now I am lying. She sees right through me. She knows me too well. I'll have all the truth. Makita is still full of shit and that's how we end

this week's Listen Bitch please send us your voice notes on how you were a dirty little saboteur or maybe not

how you were criminally sabotaged by another oh eight thousand thirty forty ninety nice and that my friends is what they call teamwork Sabotaged by another. Oh, 8,000, 30, 40, 90.

Nice. And that, my friends, is what they call teamwork. Bye! Bye! Bye! Thanks for listening to Miss Me with Lily Allen and Makita Oliver. This is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds. If you're affected by anything in this episode and you want more support, you can go to

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