Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! Natural Mystic

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver answer your questions about nature.Next week, we want to hear your questions about PERSONAL HYGIENE. Please send us a voice note on WhatsApp: [phone]. Or, if you like, send us an email: [e-mail] episode contains very strong language and adult themes. Credits: Producer: Flossie Barratt Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Assistant Producer: Caillin McDaid Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. deal ratings and price history, so you know a great deal when you see one. That's cargurus.ca. Cargurus.ca. BBC Sounds Music, Radio, Podcasts This episode of Miss Me contains vrrr, vrrr, vrrr strong language and adult themes. Welcome to this holy space we call Listen, bitch. Everyone, get on your knees. Oh, that's not very holy. Oh, yes, it is. Praying. Sorry, I was thinking of the other thing. Yes, quite. Wow. Wow.

Welcome to this holy space. Get on your knees for whatever reason you want and pray to listen, bitch. To the gods of listen, bitch, which are all of us, not just me and Lil, we're all gods in this space. Can I say this? I don't know. BBC might not agree with you. We're all gods. That's like, that's actually not true. The theme for this week's Listen, Bitch is nature.

Lil, do you want to do your appropriate sound effects of boredom for nature? You did quite a good one there. Yeah, that one. Oh. That's it. That's it. That's it. Lily's not excited. I really am. Let's see where we get to.

Let's have our first question for this week. Liz and bitch. Hey Lily and Makita, love you both. Yada, yada, yada. My name's Ellie. I'm from Ireland, but living in East London, out in your arms, Makita. As an Irish girl, very used to my weekly routine,

including a swim in the Irish girl, very used to my weekly routine including a swim in the Irish Sea, a hike in nature and living in London. It can be very difficult to get that. I feel like I need to escape at least once a month to go and touch some grass and remember who I am and remember the natural world. So two questions. One, do Londoners feel this? I feel like you guys are built different. You're just city slickers and don't really feel the need for nature. And number two, do you have any recommendations of great places to just get out of London and feel like you're

in the middle of nowhere that are like an hour ride from the city? So I know like the Seven Sisters hike, Epping Forests, but any other cool ones that you can recommend. Thank you guys, love you both. Keep being fucking cool. The Seven Sisters hike, now I've never heard of that. I love her. I think we should be friends with her, but like if she knows things like that.

Firstly, I just had to get respect at the top of the like, love show, yada yada yada. Love you guys, yada yadaadda Yadda. Love you guys, Yadda Yadda Yadda. That's funny. Love you. So this is just like, I am interested in Epping Forest is the forest near my mum's house. You talked about that the other day, didn't you? Epping Forest, or was it a different forest?

Did I talk about the book I bought? No, you talked about going for a walk with Theo and Marley. And Phoebe and kids Marley and that lot. Yeah, and that lot. I bought a book called Effing Forest by this weird guy called like Bob something and it's like him and his dog. Oh no wait, it's here. Here it is.

I'm never too far from it. Oh my god, a chance would have it. No, no, literally I'm never too far from this book now. Bob Mitchell's Effing Forest. Effing Forest companion. This book. Did you know that question was going to be asked? No, it's just we're talking about nature and magic has arrived.

That's so weird. So this is great. This book, this book is about like the ancient history of Epping Forest and this guy has lived all around Epping Forest. I'm already in the Twilight Zone. What the fuck is going on? How can someone just call in and be like, have you heard of what? And then you'd be like, actually, I'm right here. I've got two books and one of them is on that. Weird. Would you like to talk about the change in April 1991 in Epping for us? Sure. Let's talk about that. No, my mum was like, what is this book, M Kieran? I said, I got it in the Oxfam the other day

and she was like, I'm gonna leave you in here with your weird friends. And I had a great time reading it. But this man has lived all around Epping Forest and Holopons for like 35 years. And he talks about the change. He talks about the ancient history, but then the change. When you read about a park or a forest

or a place of nature and then go into it, there's something else where you understand it in a different way. When I know about the history of the trees and who used to hunt here and all the secret little ancient things that are still within it and why certain parts of it look a certain way because of weather changes and historical changes.

I just found it fascinating. Every forest is a huge one for me, but I really think I'd be an amazing person if I got up and swam in water every day, like wild swimming every day, like the lady was saying she used to do. And I think I actually go on like I'm that person. I'm like, yeah, I love wild swimming.

And I've actually never really done it, but I think it would really benefit my life. Imagine, I had an ex-boyfriend, his dad used to go and swim in the ponds every morning in Hampstead, and he had a great life. I just see this as a dilemma, because I know how much you'd love living in London. Obviously the answer to this is like,

go and live in the Lake District, and you know, swim away every day. I might just do that. But that's not gonna happen because you would have a nervous breakdown after about 17 minutes. I'll be like I miss Lambert Grove. No but that's why I'm just gonna buy a country house thanks like you did. Yeah it's not something that cost is my mind that often the thought of like having to be in nature. However, when I find myself in and amongst it,

I'm not, I'm very appreciative of it, you know? I can get quite overwhelmed by the sort of vastness of it all. I think I like it when things are like massive. You like awe inspiring nature, don't you? I just like to, I like to maybe maybe, maybe, there's something about, you know, having sort of like imposter syndrome and feeling quite small and like I never really quite fit in and then being in the vastness of nature, it's like, yeah, see, I knew it. Knew what?

Like I am like- An ant. We are just insignificant. Yes, yes. This is like massive and we get all in our head about the stupid minutiae of day to day life and it's something that I felt when I go to Africa and have been on safari as well.

Like when you like come across in the morning like a fresh kill of like a, you know, Pride of Lions or whatever, you're just like, I can't believe this shit is just like going on while we know I'm like. I know, while you're like in London worrying about some fucking thing and you're like, hang on, there are like elephants.

Like worrying about my bags coming on the conveyor belt at the airport, it's like there is real fucking shit going on. How that really hurt. I still haven't been to the hospital to get my hand fixed and I just punched it. Yeah, anyway, next question. Hi, Lillian Makita. My name is Josh and I'm actually from South Wales.

I was wondering, is there a part of nature that you're afraid of? For example, for me, it's the dark woods. You don't really know what's there. I also might be afraid of wild animals, anything like that. Thank you. Ah, short and sweet, Josh. Yes, woods at night.

You've got to be fucking joking. That's what, I think that's what it is. Woods at night. I can't with the countryside at night time. It's terrifyingly silent. And for me, I just feel like there are rapists and murderers behind every tree. Neymar, like the cherry side of the family are Swedish

and they have a house in the middle of nowhere. Neymar goes there on her own for weeks. And there's like sometimes no internet. I'm like, what? Name her at nighttime. She's like, it's peaceful. Peaceful? It's like, I feel like you're bait

waiting there to be eaten and hunted. But that's obviously my stuff and my fear, but it comes alive in the countryside. And actually my mom has it too. So I understand why she can't be in the countryside at night time. Generational trauma. Generational trauma. Totally passed on straight, direct.

Sorry, I've just spotted a box of Jaffa cakes and it's distracted me somewhat. You can go get one. I will in a minute. After I've talked to you about my fear of the sea. Yeah, and you weren't even in the tsunami. Hate the sea. Hate the sea. Hate the sea.

I mean, don't get me wrong. Obviously we've talked about my fear of jellyfish, but also I don't like when you go for a swim in the sea and it's all blue, everything's nice, you can see everything very clearly, lovely, lovely, lovely, and then suddenly you're on top of a black bit. Yes.

You don't know what's underneath. And I just think of the little mermaid and eels. Right, so it's the darkness and the unknown, right? Well, it's Ursula and her gang. Oh, you're worried about those people. Disney villains coming to get you. It's the real, you know, the real Ursula and like the eels and, you you know just like scary sea things. Yeah.

No thank you. Also she's just a cruel mistress you know like that bitch will swallow you up and by that I just mean like the sea you know those people that sail across the Atlantic in a one-man boat it's like why for why would you do that? I thought you were talking about Urs boat. It's like, why, for why would you do that? I thought you were talking about Ursula. It looks absolutely fucking terrifying. Yes, because Ursula's not a cruel mistress. She's actually deeply misunderstood

if we wanna go there, which we will when we do Disney villains for little bitch. She's not a bad one. But definitely you can't trust the sea. You can't trust it. You know what I can't do? I can't go even in the shallow bit, like by the beach, I can't lay in the sea and have my ears under the water

and then you just hear the sea. I pan, like I literally go, and Tyson and Sasha, when we were in Ibiza, they were like, let's all hold hands and just go under and just listen to the sea. I was like, like that. They had to like literally hold me and be like, it's gonna be okay. We're also five seconds, like five meters to the sea. I was like, like that. They had to like literally hold me and be like, it's gonna be okay.

We're also five seconds, like five meters from the beach. But it's just that it's the size, isn't it? It's the size and the unknown. Unpredictability. Unpredictability. And tides and it's just scary shit. But you know that we're trying to do this family holiday to Antigua, right?

For Theo's birthday. Didn't I let you? Yeah. Aren't we not supposed to talk about that? No, no, no, he knows now. Surprise is over. And obviously when you and the kids, and Phoebe and the kids, and Theo and his kid,

and everyone being there, and there's something about the Caribbean Sea, Lil, it's very calm, and it's healing. Everyone in the Caribbean, in Antigua, has what they call a sea bath every morning. And it's basically like wild swimming, where you get up and you go to the sea and that's where you kind of start your morning.

My great grandmother, mama, used to have a sea bath naked every day, and she was a great woman and lived a good life. So I think we can change your relationship with the sea in Antigua, because it's so beautiful there. And we can go swimming with turtles. I don't think so babe. I think I've like, I've just, I come from like a seafaring family.

My granddad was a submariner, my other granddad worked in the dockyards. Like everyone, yeah, my family have got like a naval background. I absolutely just don't fuck with that. We are so sorting this out, because that is so true. What a weird opposing thing going on. Okay, we'll sort that out. We'll sort out your love of the sea. I don't need to.

I know what I like, and I'll just continue to explore those things. What do you mean we're going to sort this out? I don't want to be bobbing around in the middle of an ocean, like confronting my fear, I don't need to. Yes you do. When mom and I went swimming with turtles, they give you goggles obviously, and then you have this machine,

I don't know what it's called, but it's got an engine, and you take yourself down to the bottom of the ocean. See Bob, I've done that. Oh okay, because once I did that, I was like, I kind of think I know what's down there more, and I'm not so scared of it. And it was freeing. I don't like deep ocean either.

Well, I did do a scuba diving course in Brazil with my dad when I was like, so I want to say 11 or 12, I got my paddy card, but he took us without realizing that it was winter in Brazil. And so the visibility in the sea was like half a foot in front of our face so it was basically like learning how to do something in darkness

but in contrast to that I do absolutely love and I'm at my most relaxed snorkelling. I love snorkelling. I just don't like the deep sea. Okay we'll do some shallow Snorkeling. I love snorkeling. Oh, what? I just don't like the deep sea. Okay, we'll do some shallow snorkeling. I like a little, a little coral reef, you know? Okay, I'll do that with you. That's fun. I'll follow some little fishies around, but if I see a jellyfish, I'm fucking out of there.

They've got apps now where you can see where the jellyfish are. Did you know that? No. There's an app called like Medusa or something and it shows you all across Europe, like what beaches have got jellyfish there that day. Are you this scared of them?

Yeah, they're fucking horrible. I've never encountered one, so I don't know what to be afraid of, but I'll add it to the list. Yeah. Things to be scared of and see. I don't wanna see a jellyfish or be stung by one. All right, why don't you ask for the next question?

You sea-faring naval mistress? Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. I'll have another question please. Hi Lily. Hi Makita. I'm with my dad. Hi Lily and Makita. And we love the podcast and we're huge fans. My question about nature is what is your favorite type of nature that inspires you? Like when you go for a rainy walk do you feel more inspired to create or is it more like a sunny day will really get the creative energy flowing. Personally, I love a rainy swim and so does my dad. So yeah, really excited to hear it. Love you both, love the podcast and keep doing what you're doing, cause you're amazing.

That is so sweet. What about like a clear, I find the sky very inspiring. Do you? I really do, I really do. And like when I lived in my last flat, because I was the top floor, every other balcony, the balcony above it was the roof of that balcony, but mine had nothing above me. And Rumi came around and went, there's almost

too much sky. It's a bit overwhelming. And I was like, yeah, I mean, I do have an immense amount of sky in my view. I suppose you do too now that you live high up. Being high up and being close to the sky makes me feel like very, very powerful and excited about what I can create. That's why I always like living high up. I like to touch the sky. Sky's the limit, all that shit.

Skies are never done, you know that you can't have what you want, be what you want. Like that is just such a nice sentiment from Biggie that I take into my heart every day. Sky's the limit. Yeah, I wish I could say that I'm inspired by nature but I'm just not. Okay, totally fine.

I wish I could say I was inspired by nature but I'm just not. Do you know what, I am inspired by Jaffa cakes. Bye, come back in a second. Let's have a know what, I am inspired by Jaffa cakes. Bye! Come back in a second. Let's have a little break. Let's have a Jaffa break. ["Jaffa Cake"]

Welcome back to Listen Bitch, the nature episode. Turning out to be quite a turnout for the books. I'm so pleased with yourself. Now, Lily, the particular biscuit that you're eating episode turning out to be quite a turnout for the books. I'm so pleased with yourself. Now, Lily, the particular biscuit that you're eating had a marketing campaign that really resonated and weirdly me and Phoebe were talking about it the other day.

It's just an episode of coincidences of the Epoch Forest book. So I have for you to have nature as the theme and she reminded, well we're all remembering the beautiful advert of full moon, half moon, totally eclipse. So you can do it. How much you got left? Half moon? Half moon. Oh my god it really does look like a half moon. And now Lily? Totally eclipse. Totally eclipse. What's that for that brand of biscuit? Yeah man.

Cake, sorry. Yes, well, is it a cake or is it a biscuit? Have we talked about the tax association? With Jaffa Cakes? I believe that there is a confectionary tax or a biscuit tax and the reason they got renamed Jaffa Cakes was to avoid that tax. That's some deep shit. We're gonna do biscuits for Listen Bitch then. Also I believe that, I did see this on the internet this week, not really nature associated

but there is a popular shop, I wouldn't call it a supermarket. I don't know why, because it kind of is. We released a strawberries and cream sandwich and they are in a tax dispute because- My mum was talking about this. Because they put it in a sandwich, it's not classed as confectionery. And so therefore they are saying that they don't have to pay a certain tax on it. But the government is saying it is because it doesn't have any like savoury attributes and is not nutritious in that way and should not be classed as just like normal food. Wow. Save this gold for listen bitch biscuits.

It's fascinating, isn't it? Absolutely fascinating. It is, thank you. I wish I had more language at my disposal. My brain literally cannot work and I can't talk. Yeah, but you've been to, we're both basically, I think, at PMSing and have Fog Brain at the same time. So lucky listeners. Let's have another question for,

I can't even, fuck it, you remember the theme. Nature. Jesus. Hey, Lillian Makita. I'm Eve. I'm from Plymouth. I was wondering if either of you think you could live off-grid for a year and would you do it if you had to? No fucking way. No fucking way. Actually it depends how depressed I was. No, shut up. You just balked at the idea that Neymar had to go to a luxury cabin in the middle of Sweden without Wi-Fi. There's no way in hell that you are living off-grid for a year. Absolutely no fucking way. But I thought they mentioned no social media. Absolutely.

But you mean like no phones and no communication and contact? I think it means electricity. Oh yeah, it's like, oh my God, it's like living off the land. I've thought about this in my, maybe in my 50s. Hot water. I know, but I might just fucking give it all up in my 50s after I've built certain things.

You know, when I used to live on that river? I just see these people on their boats and they seem so happy. I was like, I could do that. I could do that. And that doesn't have electricity does it? A barge? I could live on a barge. In my 50s. And like on an allotment. On a piece of land where I grew my own vegetables, made my own electricity oven and water. Yeah, I think I could do that, but not this decade. That's my answer. I think you could. Oh, okay, you think you'll find it harder later in life?

Easier, sorry, later in life. Easier because I'll just apply all this pressure and intensity, not apply it, lose it, and then go and I'll probably be seeking some, by 50 I will have been working for like 35 years I'll really need a break from it all I think by then and I think I'd be really happy to like not look in a mirror not be on a camera not come up with any ideas I'm calling bullshit on this

I'm calling bullshit on this. Absolute bullshit. Not happening. Or I'll just buy a very nice country house with the internet. And solar panels. And I've got Makeda's like, you've spent the last year or however long we've been doing this podcast saying how much do you want to like build your brand and become like you know missus successful business pants and then what is gonna happen you're gonna be like you know what i'm just gonna go and live in a tent with no mirrors no phone fuck all those millions that i've just made exactly i'll be i'll be using the millions to like kick back a bit and i'll just make

sure that everything's in place that our community work is still work happening and i'll be using the millions to like kick back a bit and I'll just make sure that everything's in place, that our community work is still work happening. And I'll be like, I'm out for a bit, thanks. She only said a year, just a year. You don't know me as well as you think you do. Please, please. Okay, okay. Now I know you and I think you could do this. Yeah, I think you probably could. No, I think you'd need attention and

adoration. Yeah, but that's fine. I think you could still get that on grid, off grid even. Off, well, oh yeah, like in real life from like a real person. Yeah, I'd like create it in my own little like off grid community. I'd still be the center of attention. Don't you worry about that. Don't you worry about that. Don't you worry babes. So just transfer. I know how to cause a scene. Okay? Even in my off-grid community. Mrs. commotion over here. Don't you worry about it. I'll take that shit with me.

Let's have another question. Nature is taking us to all kinds of places isn't it? Hi Lily and Makita, I'm Sophia from Preston and I was just wondering what are your thoughts on nature versus nurture? Do you think people are born the way they are or are they influenced by their environment and what's around them? I love all these snappy questions today. Well what do you mean because also with people you have that because Garfield, my stepdad, has raised me since I was 11 and I am turning into him with my hair and my love of a good Sunday paper and he loves racket sports. I love racket sports. We both like cycling a lot on our bikes. I'm getting pretty close to becoming Garfield at the moment, now that I'm living with

him as well. Mirroring energy. And I think that is because he's looked after me for so long. Like Aaron, Aaron's given you a lot of love. We've had good step dads. Yes. But he came into my life when I was my my frontal lobe was pretty developed, I think at that point. Yeah, I believe in the nurture as the concept, you know, I think that, I think there are things that we all do as a species for sure, or I don't know, I would like, it's society and the environment definitely plays a role for sure in how people turn out. Environment. My environment's so crazy right now. Yeah, but you're an adult, babe.

But what was my environment when I was growing up? Well, actually, yeah, like I was taught, I suppose the things I was taught are really inherently fucking in me, like community and a hatred of gentrification and unkindness to certain parts of my community. I was taught that very early in Labrador Grove and I do feel very passionate about it.

Let's have a penultimate question. Penultimate question please. Hi, Lillian Makita. This is Alice. I am 38. I am from a little town called Shrewsbury, which is in a big county called Shropshire. I now live in Merseyside on the Wirral. I am really enjoying being back in a place where I have access to lots of nature. My grandpa passed away recently and I was like, I can't just sit here and be a

normal person for the day. After receiving this news, I just need to get out. Me and my partner went on this beautiful long five-hour walk across the Wirral. I honestly just think that that walk really helped me process that news. I often turn to nature when I really need to think about something or forget about something. So yeah, I just wondered if you ever turned to nature to heal wounds or process or maybe what you use nature for? Thank you darling. Yeah? Thank you, darling. Yeah, I asked, I went out to the forest to ask the trees a question the other day and they answered me.

Okay. Phoebe has this idea that trees touch you, you don't touch them. So if you like put your hands by some hanging leaves of a big tree and you say like, talk to me, sorry, not touch you, talk to you by touching you. And it really does happen. If you put your energy around a tree,

it will sort of shake and move and like gravitate towards you and it does feel very magical. And I mean, my question wasn't, I mean, you were going through something as difficult as losing your grandfather. I had a somewhat more trivial experience, but I was asking for answers and I fucking got them and I did what they told me and it was good, yeah.

And then I text that person. It was ridiculous. So yeah, thanks Forrest for that. But I imagine if I was going through some grief, the first place I would wanna be would be outside, near the energy of the woods. Where do you go, Lil? Hyde Park? What's your favorite green space in London? near the energy of the woods. Where do you go, Lil? Hi, Park.

What's your favorite green space in London? I like a canal. Okay. But that's manmade. Yeah, which we learned early. Yeah, favorite green space in London. Because we are so lucky with parks. In New York, I have to say,

there is only Central Park and then Washington Square Park, right? Yeah, I like Hampstead Heath, I like Regent's Park. We have such good ones. Oh, you know what? When I was a kid, Harry used to take us to Richmond and that is like a whole, when you get to Richmond Park, it's like a whole other, you're like, sorry, dear?

What? Yeah. We're in like, sorry, dear, what? Yeah. We're in London, what are you talking about? We're going on the overground, dear. Just a doe crossing the road. Yeah, it's pretty mental. I like Richmond. I remember there was a really specific tree that me and my brother used to like to climb

when we were kids, when Harry took us to Richmond Park. Let's have our final question Hi, Lillian Makita. My name is Jack and I'm from Sheffield If you could be any element of nature could be a tree a river or a mountain. What would you be and why? Oh gold gold gold gold I'd so fucking be a river. I'd be gold. Oh, I'd be so, I'd so fucking be a river. I'd so be a river. Remember I told you that,

I told you an incorrect Bruce Lee quote about water, which I won't get wrong again today, but I went to look at water the other day and it's just like, oh, heal me up, why don't you? And when we were in Scotland, me and mum, filming last summer, when we were at the Falls of Fjord and saw those like salmon swimming upstream, like it's unbelievable, Lilly.

Like, joking about like ancient rock formations with this water that is like pummeling down in one direction and these salmon just come out of nowhere and go upstream and then you never see them again. Like they're strong and it's like just incredible to watch. And then you never see them again, but they're strong. And it's like, just incredible to watch. And I just thought the way this water moves, like that I actually felt,

I think it is because of my ancestors. But when I was in Scotland, every time I was near a body of water, when we went to all the locks, particularly Loch Ness. Yeah, you loved all of those. You loved that. I loved it. You loved your Scottish natural roots.

Totally. And I told you you my uncle was like, do you like hill walking? And I was like, yeah, and he was like, that's the Bailey. That's a fucking Lutely. That's a fucking Lutely. And that's why I'm going to the Highlands with my dad and my brother. Cause I'm like, let's see this shit.

I'm excited for you for that trip. I feel like there's gonna be lots of healing down there. Right, would you ever think that I would go to the highlands with my dad and my brother? Makita, if 10 years ago you told me I'm going up to, I'm just going to on a camping trip with my brother and my dad. First of all, I'd be like, what? Who? Who are your brother and your dad? A. B.

Where? Okay, Scotland. Hiking. Sure. It's about as likely as you living off grid for a year. But anyway, I'm glad that that all panned out That's very it's very nice. Did he ask us what element we would be or yeah What like as in it on the periodic table and also is he asking? What we feel we are or how other people see us? Yeah, I don't think he got into it that much It's quite a short question. I suppose it's up to your interpretation. I don't know, I feel like, well, I don't know.

I don't know. You can say it. Or arsenic. Arsenic? I suppose these things are all elements. You are going a bit periodic table. Do you know your periodic table? No.

Oh, because I did not get that one in school and I couldn't, I was like, I can't believe anyone in the world will ever know, understand this table. And I wish I'd stayed for that class. I think it's a really important one to know. I don't think it would take you that long to learn it, to be honest.

I could study it still. If you sat down, you could probably sit, it'd probably take you one day. Probably take you an afternoon. I could do that. I could do that. I could do that. I think it would be really important. If I can learn like 20 pages of dialogue a day,

then you can sit down and look at the periodic table. I think I will. I challenge you. I'm sick of not knowing like what sulfur is. She's sick of it, god damn it. Sick of it, I don't. I'm sick of it. I don't want to live like this anymore. It's bullshit.

I feel like I'm living under a rock behind a mask. So we could do it for Listen Bitch. Okay, I'll study it and we'll do it for Listen Bitch and the whole world can test to me. No, we're not doing the periodic table for Listen Bitch. That's not going to get- No, you know what we're doing at the end of this lovely episode of nature Which I'm fucking really enjoyed. Thank you. Everyone really good question. It's my choice. Oh, yeah

What element are you babe? No, it's my choice to choose what the episode is. Yeah. Yeah, but please can it be biscuits or blowjobs? So that's your decision making it could be both Biscuits and blowjobs we don't know. We've got years more of little bitches to do. We need to really spread them out. Biscuits or blowjobs? What do you want in this hot summer? What do you wanna talk about? Don't think about it too much.

Biscuits or blowjobs? No, you've backed me into a corner. Blowjob corner. You've set me up in a blowjob corner. I've set, he set me up in a blowjob corner. He backed me into a corner. This is abuse. No, we were talking about something else and I was like that would be a good subject matter and now I can't fucking remember what it is. Oh Okay, I will say that next week's episode of Listen Bitch is... Personal hygiene! Okay, you stinky bitch, we'll do personal hygiene.

You are one that's a talk! I know. Jesus Christ. I'm actually...oh, That makes me so angry. No, I mean, personal hygiene it is. But then we'll do blow jobs, yes? Sure. Okay. The theme for next week's Listen Bitch is personal hygiene.

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