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Episode Date: May 25, 2026

Miquita Oliver and Jordan Stephens answer your questions about cars.Next week, we want to hear your questions about TASTE. Please send us a voice note on WhatsApp: [phone]. Or, if you like, send us an email: [e-mail] episode contains very strong language and adult themes. Credits: Producer: Natalie Jamieson Technical Producer: Oliver Geraghty Assistant Producer: Caillin McDaid Production Coordinator: Rose Wilcox Executive Producer: Dino Sofos Commissioning Producer for BBC: Jake Williams Commissioners: Dylan Haskins & Lorraine Okuefuna Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

The following episode contains very strong language, adult themes and sexual discussion. Hello everybody, welcome to listen bitch. Welcome to listen bitch. Listen to the bitch. Listen to the bitch. Yo, listen to the bitch is, that's what it's missing. It's to the. If we ever need to shake it up, it could be listen to the bitch.

I think it's what we sort of meant. So yeah, so this week, it is cars. Cars. Not driving. Because we've done driving. This is car specific. Yeah, it's not driving. It's cars because I feel there will be some fascinating questions. Cars play a big part in people's memories. Yeah. People's experiences. Sure. They offer a sense of freedom at points. Did you write this down? That was beautiful. No, I really haven't written this down, but I did suggest the theme. So you're in it naturally. I'm just thinking of songs.

that I love, but all I can think about is, I think it's Gary Newman, here in my car. That's all like... That's a banger. He's such a weird artist, Gary Nevin. No, but it's true. Like, I miss, like, why, you know, they should talk... I mean, Charlie XX, Vroom, Vroom.

Oh, yes. Yes. But they're our classic, I know, doesn't Prince sing about a corvette? Yeah, also Beatles. Baby, you should drive my car. That's such a cute thing. If a boy said to me, baby, you can drive my car.

I'd be like, oh. Yeah, that's sweet. Right? That's sweet shit. Getting picked up in a whip. Vibes. I've never, like, been picked up in a posh car. And I've been out with a lot of men that don't drive.

Because I'm just thinking there's, like, three men I've dated that drove, and I was just so into it. I was like, oh, my God. Permission to highlight the fact that this might also be a bit of social programming, a bit. Just in terms of that old film traditionally, guy pulls up in a whip, opens a door. It's like, you know. But, like, you remember scrubs, no scrubs by TLC. Yeah.

The abuse. the man received for just being sat next to his friend is crazy. What is the life? Sitting in the passenger's side of his best friend's ride trying to holler at me. She's like, fuck her, are you driving? But is it your car? That was her metric. That's her metric for being able to talk to her.

Like, oh what, you're going to sit next to your friend? Like, what if he was just not driving that day? He's not even allowed to chat to her. He's only a passenger. What if it just wasn't? Just that day, he was just like, oh, you know what? I'll just jump in your car, man. It's more efficient than us just being in some kind of like...

No, loser. I actually wonder if men feel like losers if they don't drive. I know I feel like a loser for not driving as a woman, so it might not be gender-based. Let's have our first question. Hi, guys, it's Emma here from Gloucestershire. On the topic of cars, I just wanted to ask whether you or anyone you know have had any funny names for cars.

My first car was Sid because he was vicious. But it was also a little bit like a carry-on film when I was in there. Then I upgraded and the number plate had Nallie. So it was Nile. It was very chic. And then now I've got a black and white car. So it's Jack because Jack, Black, Jack White. And also the number plate is Tits.

So Jackie Big Tits, Coup Song. Love the podcast. Love you both. Thanks. What? Sorry. What a coo song? Jackie Big Tits

Cooke song I mean you know listen Luke Pritchard was was quite the player in his day but I'm not sure he had a song called Jackie Oh he does No way that's really uncooks Jackie Big Tits Actually I think I do remember that

Is that first album? Sorry we've just accepted so many shit Like we wouldn't even go If we were to like go through Oh do you remember when life was really problematic You wouldn't think to go back to like You know there's a curly hair skinny indie boy With Wellies on

But actually there was some deep set problems happening. Jackie Big Tits. I mean, maybe it's ironic and actually she's fat-chested or something. I mean, the cooks were absolute wordsmiths of their time. Let's not forget that.

So I'm sure there was some sort of deep, meaningful reason. What's the popular confusion in their chorus? Oh, I know. She knows. I'm not fond of asking. Whereas many people thought, I'm not from a place called

the Raskin. No, no one thought that ever. Is that just me? I used to hang out of Luke. Also, my cousin, my cousin supported them on tour when I was a kid from Lariken Love. Oh my God, I loved Laracin' love. Your cousin was in Lariken Love. Are you joking me?

He's the lead singer. What? Ed Leeson, yeah, it's my cousin. Wow, Larican love. Okay. Anyway, back to Cars. Sorry, cars. Jordan, he takes me the weekend because he's recently purchased a car and named it.

I don't know why people feel the need. to name cars, but I've never owned one. And if I owned one, I probably would suddenly be like, he's just called Stephen. Like, is it an emotional thing? My mum did this. My mom would speak to the cars when I was growing up. And I actually think it's truly revolutionary.

Much like in our previous episode, we spoke about Monty Don talking about things, all with things being nature. There is no reason why we can't believe in a sentence of cars. Not only was there Herbie, who actually was like, that car really did think for himself, itself. But like my mom, she had this one car, there's a Y car.

I remember she bought this car. We went to like this big car market and like the Y car. I remember that because it had Wires the number plate like and then there was there was Toyota Yaris which she had for years. I remember what she called. I can't remember she's going to go nuts. I can remember the number plate but I can't remember the nickname. But she would tap the car and say thank you after long journeys and like

she'd like rub the dashboard to be like like she was like she was stroking the tummy of a dog. My God, I do that with homes. Right. I like kiss walls and I say thank you to hotel rooms and stuff. Same concept. Yeah, the idea of the personification of the essentially inanimate thing.

Like, have you noticed how like your dog, I don't know, but most dogs definitely said he fucking hate the Hoover, right? Hate the vacuum cleaner. And the other day my friend was like, why does she hit the vacuum cleaner? I was like, because she doesn't think, she doesn't go, that's a vacuum cleaner. It's an inanimate object that is alive. It's making a wild sound. Yeah, exactly.

And roaring. So I think our ideas of what is inanimate, a car, and personifying it. My mum's current car is called Ron. Okay. And it's a Honda that has done some serious mileage. Like that car is on smoke. And my mum has detailed it herself. She's put some green hearts on it in honour of Grenfell.

So I got my first car about eight years ago, little polo, orange. and I called that polo Jamie Sunset Fun Bunny. I didn't know that. Okay. I don't think I ever met Jamie Sunset Fun Bunny or even rode her, him. And then after Jamie, I swapped Jamie in for another car. Oh yeah, things were going well.

And also cars sort of reflect where you're at in life, right? No, no, I'm not that kind. I'm actually not the kind of person. One day I will tell the whole story of that car because it is actually the biggest L I've ever taken in my life. Like, I, it was one situation in which I do think in some spaces in life I'm, I can be very intelligent, but there are other massive blind spots in my existence. And one of those blind spots is genuinely cars.

And I can't, I don't even want to tell the story. Anyway, so let's just stick the names for now. Rodman, that was the second car. Then I managed to get slothy. Wicked. Then there was pending. Now I have I know what you've got now

And now yes Now I've bought a 2002 BMW Which reminds me of the cars That the dealers would drive around my Old Estate And she's called Tina Now I said God that's like a drug dealer's car

From Labrote Grove And you were like yeah I did get it From West London It's from Holland Park Yeah But 2002 I didn't buy it from Holland Park Yeah yeah yeah

But don't test me on drug dealers cars In West London Over the early noughties I could differentiate the years. It gives that vibe. And it was just for me to have a car that I could just fall back on and, you know, and also like, you know,

I don't know, maybe it was crazy. No, no, no, let me ask you this. If we were like in therapy, which Miss McCampy, why do you think the name Tina is what you wanted to call this car? What does that represent to you when it comes to this car?

Do you know what's so weird, right? It's actually so mad, is Tina just what felt right. But if I really deep it, there is an important Tina in my life and it makes sense with the context of the car. Wow. When I was little, me and my mum, we were homeless for a couple of years and we stayed with

a woman called Tina, right, in the room of a man called Dylan, who you all know because Dylan works at Supra on, he owns Supra. Oh my God, Dylan! Yeah, Dylan, yeah. I love Dylan from Super. I was in Dylan's room with my mum for a short time. And that's in Grove, you know, that was like literally, near Oxford Gardens.

So in my head it's like maybe subconsciously knowing the car was from West London literally around that time, I was like, it has to be. It has to be. It has to be, Tina. I love that. I love that you,

that shows me that this car is something that you feel will protect you. The car has a shape that brings me joy. I don't know if it's the most practical decision. I don't know if it's been a bit nuts. But that shape of car, I've quite rapidly learned, is actually very popular

with a lot of people. And it's just, I wanted to, you know, I talk so much about, like, idealising the late 90s and stuff. And like, you know, so getting a car more towards that era. I thought maybe I should try and embody some of that a little bit. Just bring that energy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can just listen to gin and juice all day. Like, you know what? You're the second person who's specified Snoop Dog. Really? He's got a Snoop Dog energy, hasn't it? Snoop Dog and Nate Dog energy. They wouldn't have had that shape.

They wouldn't have had that shape in the US. No? Maybe that's a UK thing? I don't know. I think I'm playing so solid crew out of that whip, man. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. Let's have another question for today's listen, bitch.

We are talking about cars. Hi, Miss Me, Team. I just want to say I am an avid fan of yours. It's the highlight to my week. I'm from Stockport in Manchester. My son and I had a recent discussion about cars, and he said that he can sum up somebody by the car that they drive because it says so much about them, which fascinated me.

I then went on to name a few friend's cars and asked him for his analogy of that. And you know what? It was pretty spot on. I wondered how you feel about that. I know Makita doesn't drive yet, but whether this analogy kind of works on what car you drive, Jordan. Yeah, it'd be interesting to know you. thoughts okay bye well the thing is i can do this with clothes so well i know exactly how to dress for

how i'm feeling or what i what part of me i feel closer to but when i was trying to like encourage myself to get even quicker on the road i was like maybe you should start looking at cars like what car you might drive that will get you excited no not at all i was like i don't see myself in any of these i was looking at sort of like i like to be high up like the way i live i don't like being low on the ground. You're not going to like Tina then. What? She low, she rides low, yeah?

Tina is as close to the ground as I've ever been. And I've gone from a defender to Tina. That is literally, that's quite a, it's quite a shift. Grounding. It's very grounding, yeah. I quite like it, though. It's kind of just like laid back vibes. Well, see, I quite like the idea of being up when I drive.

I suppose, like, when I was young, I used to see a lot of kind of cool men in their 30s driving Saab 900 convertibles. What a vibe. What a car. Actually, that would get me excited about getting on the road. I saw a sob convertible. I was very tempted, but it literally done like 120,000 miles or something.

Like Saab 900? It was like a convertible, yeah, yellow as well. Oh, God, no, no. I don't like a coloured car. I don't like a coloured car. I do. I'm going to wrap Tina. I know you told me.

Yeah, because I can't stand like, you know, I just, I don't think you understand how many black cars there are in London. Like, it actually, it just, it does, it kills. me a bit. What, like when you're parking, you can't find your car? Well, firstly, yeah. I mean, that's one of the reasons why I had orange cars historically because it's like if I'm in a car park,

I just know where my car is straight away. Bang, orange car, there, boom, there it is. And then also I love orange. It's a neutral colour, as in like it's gender neutral in a way, which I love. And I just love sunsets and shit, which is right, Jamie Sunset Fun Bunny, obviously. So, yeah, there will be a version of me in these cars.

The other one's called Rodman, and I had a picture of Dennis Rodman come up whenever I, like, sat in my car. But obviously, I've now gone back in time a little bit with this 24-year-old car. So I think when I re-engage with a more modern car, I'm actually going to be massively appreciative of how easy I'm a driving experience.

I'm kind of enjoying the fact that I've made, like, it's slightly more difficult for myself. I quite like the extra analogue vibes. Yes. And also, well, Orange symbolises energy. This is very good for you right now. energy, enthusiasm, warmth and creativity. There you are.

I think that's fucking on point. Let's wrap it. Well, I wasn't going to wrap it orange. I might do this one like a forest green. Can you look that up, please? You said either or to me on text. So, okay. It was either or, yeah.

Actually, no, type in fur green. Fur green. Yeah, F-I-R. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, I'm not trying to... Obviously, you understand. Oh, dare you. I know, exactly.

I know about fur. What does it say? It means. It means nothing. No. What? Just didn't come up one sec. Here it is.

It means nature, obviously. Vitality, stability. Nice. And quiet confidence. What I need. What I need. I think that might be it, you know, babe. What color?

So you wouldn't have a car, you wouldn't have a car of colour? No. Nath. You racist. I wouldn't have a car of color. I wouldn't have a car of color. I want a Jeep.

And I want a Jeep. want it to be black. What, a Jeep Wrangler? I quite like Land Rovers. They're not very city appropriate. You mean you want a spare tire on the back? I mean everyone wants that, right, sure. No, I just mean I want to be up high with big wheels.

Yeah, yeah, cool, fair. I mean, that'll be a nightmare in London, especially for a new driver, but good luck getting insured. Thanks, Mazkill. Can we have another question, please? My name's Lily. I'm from Liverpool, but I'm currently in New York with my partner. This week we got married in Vegas,

so we're on a little American trip. Love driving, but I hate, hate, hate going to garages. I find garages the most intimidating place. The men are just that work there, or at least the ones that I've been to, are the most unhelpful. They don't try and explain anything. I have a very basic understanding of cars,

but my partner knows even less about cars. So when we go to a garage generally, out of the two of us, I'm the one better equipped to ask questions and to state what the issue. is. But generally, I'll just teach him what to say before we go in because I know that he's going to get a better response and they're going to be more helpful and communicative than they are with me because I'm the girl walking into the room. I want to know if you've had the same experience.

And number two, whether this bothers you, whether it's an issue for you. Let us know. Love you so much. I love you too, but congratulations on your wedding in Vegas. And I imagine this sort of little honeymoon situation in New York. What a lovely life you're having right What a lovely life. I haven't experienced this yet because I don't drive. But I love garages. I forgot actually how funny this is for you this whole episode, just perpetual cruelty. So wait, so can you just tell listeners again, you failed a theory again?

People came from me before. They said I was not fair of me to question you crying about it. Oh, God, I can't believe I said I was crying. Perhaps they were right. So listen, this is a safe space to tell me. And I won't support. I would only support. I just can't say how loud

it's my fear it's my fifth time failing it and that's okay and it's the second time failing it by two questions I'm just like fuck this and that's okay

it's just endurance it's like they know my I have to go back they know my name now everyone fucking knows me there and every time I leave everyone's like and they kind of give me

the slip sort of like they can't let me in the eye I'm like oh my god I didn't do it again and then some like fucking child will walk past me and be like

yes and I'm like how did you? Do you pass? It's just like, it's just becoming a joke. But got another one in two weeks. Wish me luck. Like, I will not stop.

I will not stop until I'm on the road. And interesting. Have you been revising? Yes, deeply. Okay. Like seriously revising. Everyone hates me. I'm making everyone test me.

I'm doing everything I can. Mm. Anyway, oh, garages, right, sure. I haven't had I haven't been into many This is I will be now because I've bought a fucking old car Basically a classic car actually by next year it'll be officially a classic car Jesus really 2002 god So I will learn

My own experience of garages there is a chance perhaps That when garages are going via insurance companies They maybe add on a little bit A little bit of work maybe Yeah what do they call that? Pistake Fraud Like car insurance is You know what I will know I

say this, you know what I'll say this? I actually remember this so vividly. In my first year of driving or second year, it was really early on. I was driving around Kensal Rye Station, right, the overground and I thought Spike had been sick in the back of the car. So I turned around to look, which obviously

I wouldn't do again. This was me an amateur driver and I ended up driving into a parked car about seven miles an hour, right? Like literally like, and the entire front of my car came off, right? Oh, my fucking God.

As people, by the way, came out of Kensal Rye Station. So it was like literally the most embarrassing. So I like, pull the car over to one side. Spike is like, what the fuck just happened? Because when you hit a car,

even if it's at five miles an hour, it's a really loud sound. I mean, it's like really, it's like big vehicle on vehicle. Yeah. The other car, by the way, virtually unscathed. It was just like,

the whole front of my car. Right, and the whole front of yours fell off. I've gone over. And then, I had this bizarre moment where I was like, I was stood on the side of the street and I actually didn't know what to do. Obviously, I was insured,

but I had never, I didn't know what the procedure was, right? So this guy comes storming out of a cafe, right? And he's like, what are you going to do? And I was like, well, I literally don't know. Like, can you help me? And he was just like, well, you bet you better do, you better leave your number or ring your insurance.

And I was like, okay, what? I remember saying like, why are you so, why are you so pissed off? Like I don't know. I actually need your help. You went, yeah, ring your insurance, make sure you put your thing on the car. So I was like, right, okay, fine.

And he kind of goes back in. I think he worked in a cafe. So then I'm ringing my insurance. And then there was a barbershop next door. These two guys come out of the barbershop. They go, oh, bro, and I was like, yeah. He's like, what are you doing? You're ringing the insurance.

I was like, yeah, yeah. And they're like, yeah, you're a better man than me, bro. And I was like, what? And they were like, no, no, no, you're doing the right thing. You're doing the right thing. I was like, and in my head, I didn't understand what they were getting at. Or what this guy, anyway, long story short, this guy thought I was going to do a runner.

That's what people would do. Or at the very least, take my bumper off and go to a garage so I don't get, do I don't make the claim. When I made this claim, Akita, they claimed the damages in this car were over half of the price of the entire car. Oh my God. Anyway, sorry, I don't even know what I'm saying the story. But yeah, that was the garages.

And then I will say the other experience with garages have been, have been nice because my mom, and I want to say this, I want to use this space to big up my mom, right? My mom is the best driver I've ever been in the car with. And many people will attest to that genuinely. She is ridiculous. And she'll go into a garage and she will not hit. No one can chat shit to my mum in a garage, literally. Right.

So she knows her shit. She knows her shit. This is the best example of my mum in recent times, yeah. We were driving in Margate and it was a snow day. And there was this hill, right, that was icy. And this was like tough for me. I've been driving for about four years, but it was like, you know, like you'd break and you'd still be moving.

It was that level. It was fucked, right? So I've, like, tried to go up this hill, and I felt like the momentum was going before I went up and we were on ice, so I shit myself, like literally shit myself, put on the, like, stopped, put on the handbrake and was terrified to even get out of the car.

And Jade was there, it was like not the one, right? And then all these cars were like trying to get up and then falling back down, and it was just like a nightmare. I'll ring my mom. I literally hung my mom was like, I used to limarget. She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was like, look, man, I'm stuck on this hill. I don't know what to do. A police car couldn't get up the hill. The only people could get up the hill were like these huge four-by-fours, right? And then this other guy stayed behind me, then he got stuck on the hill. It was nuts, right? No one could figure out how to do it.

My mum parks at the top of the hill, walks down, bear in mind. Even a police car couldn't get up this hill. They just gave up and turned around. My mom zigzags up this hill in a Volkswagen polo and free. Come on. Free. Yes, M. She's also driven, like, I can't even explain to you how much time she's cut off journey.

She's actually had to chill in recent times. But like she is phenomenal. So yeah, she tells me what garage is to go to because she's like, I don't worry, I chat to them, they're safe. Like, go, go on. Yeah, I mean, I think garages in the area that I live in, I'm so pleased about the sort of three or four. There's one, and I'm looking at one right now.

There's one at the other end of my road. And it's really important. I feel like they're like old school parts of the community. It's like a garage, a calf, a charity shop and a boss man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's still a neighborhood. But I will say, just to speak directly to that question, It is a shame when it happens, man.

Like, I don't like the idea that there are some space. Like, that's why I wanted to specify on my mom's the phenomenal driver, because that is something that pops up in this manosphere bullshit too is the idea that, like, men are better equipped to be, like, you know, in charge of fucking vehicles, like, no. Machines. I know my mom in the Caribbean when we're in Antigua, oh my God.

Because all men want to tell her how to drive, and she just will not have it. Like, any time she, like, pulls out, they're like, Miss, miss, you've got to move to the left and she's like, I know how to drive. I'm like, Mom, it's just a culture thing. It's fine. But also, the other thing about people who love cars

is they can be pretty, like, sometimes it can come with an air of like, you don't know what you're talking about or like. I can't wait. I can't wait to join. I got told yesterday to move my car and I went, why, what's up? And he went, well, you just parked it like shit.

People are such assholes to each other on the road. I thought it was right, to be honest. And he wasn't wrong. All right. Get it? Oh yeah, let's break. And let's pull up, let's see. Should we pull up the handbrake as well?

Well, no, I think we can just put our foot on the brake for a bit and then, you know, let it go naturally. Okay, we're back from the break. The foot's off the brake. We're back on the accelerator pedal. Yeah, and then we should probably check our mirrors. Mirror signal maneuver. Mirror signal maneuver.

So we probably should have done that before accelerate. This is why I'm fading my theory. Over and over again. Let's have another question. Hi guys. My name is Ellie and I live in Melbourne. I am Aussie, but I grew up in Ipswich and Suffolk actually in East Anglia.

And I remember when I was younger that there were, we used to call them Gary Boys. So they'd have like these sort of souped up like little hondas. They had like spoilers on the back when you'd pull up to the lights like pumping their music like super loud. And I also didn't get my license until much later in life at 33. So only two years ago. I love the freedom that it brings me and I love to drive around pumping my music, but I am very adverse to pulling up to the lights with my music pumping because I don't want to be thought of as a Gary Boy.

So I make sure I turn it right down when I do that. I guess my question is, is there anything you love to do in a car that you perhaps don't do elsewhere or is there anything about driving or being in a car that you find shameful or embarrassing? Thank you. Bye. Shameful or embarrassing? About being in a car? Well, you find it shameful and embarrassing to not be able to drive a car. Sure. Yes. But I don't, there's nothing, I think one of the main reasons I want to drive is to have that time on my own moving. Yes. And being able to listen to whatever I want. Oh. God, it does feel like freedom.

Also, I love the idea of being able to just like today, finish this, even though I've got too much work, but like, we'll work around that. Being able to just like get into a car and just drive the fuck out of here. Yeah. You know, I live really high up. There's a lot of things I look at all the time. I'd love to just go meet all these different landmarks that I see every day. I just want to get in a car and get the fuck out of my life.

Yeah. Drive away from my problems. That's what you can do right when you drive. You can drive away from your problems. Definitely. Definitely. It really does provide that extra like, oh, I can go now. Yeah.

Exit. I do the classic thing of, I decompress in the car, you know. So if I arrive at a place and I have time, I really sit there for a while, like people do on the toilet and just be like, this is my space now. Do you listen to tunes when you're driving? Yeah, of course. I listen to a lot of podcasts. Oh, right.

But I don't think, I don't think it's anything shameful. No, not really. I can't imagine. No. No, it's not shameful to have sex in a car, is it? I think it'd be kind of hot. No, not at all. Fucking hot, what are you talking about?

Do you know what? There's a sex scene in risky business where they have sex on a train. Yeah. And I always thought that was mad hot. Travel sex. Like, moving automobile. You haven't had sex in a car that's moving. No.

No. You can't do that. What do you mean? Oh, like someone else was driving. Well, if someone else was driving. Oh, like a cab or something. Let's not even go there. Yeah, maybe not.

It's just not. Why don't you ask for the next question? And Zoom us on out. Last question, please. Hello, Makita and Jordan. My name is Natasha and I'm a yoga teacher in Hertfordshire. Love the podcast. I've been listening since the very beginning

and not once has it disappointed me of both doing a great job. My car is actually my safe place. The amount of time I spend disassociating in the car once I've parked up a board somewhere and how happy that makes me should be studied. Once you've left the car, life comes back and kind of slaps you in the face.

So my new favourite thing to do is pack a lunch and instead of going home to eat my lunch, I will sit in my car and I'm so happy. Just sitting in the car is pure bliss and it's warm and you can listen to something and nobody's there to take you away from yourself and I just love it. So my question is,

Do you disassociate in the car? Do you love it as much as me? Or is there something you enjoy doing in your car other than driving? I'd love to know. Have a great day. Keep up the good work. I just so feel left out of the cool car gang in this episode. Sorry. Sorry.

It's cool. Fine. I'm just an observer. But you and Natasha, you converse. I'll just watch. Yeah, so I just said that. And yeah, there's, I don't know. It's interesting about what else do I do in a car? Like it's a good time to just get through things.

Obviously, I have a lot of phone conversations in the car. Journeys, I talk, journeys fly by if I'm on the phone. Like, literally fly by hours. But yeah, there's nothing. I don't think there's anything particularly wild about it. I don't, I don't play music in a crazy. You said it feels like a womb. Yeah, it feels like a womb.

I don't, I don't do the crazy loud music thing, really at all, actually. What else do I do? car, is it has, um, some, okay, the weirdest thing I've done in cars, it's just like, um, well, you'll love this, but I'll do like a selfie video. It's right, yeah. Yeah, I hate it. No, I would be, do like a to-camera video voicing my opinion on something. Hey guys!

No, I wouldn't start like that. No, you wouldn't. I know, that's why I love you. You never started with, hey guys. Okay. I mean, I think there's a lot of visions that I have about what I want to do. Like, I want to be someone that, like, when and if I have kids, we can, or get in the car and go somewhere to surf. Yeah, that's cool. Do you know what I mean?

Like stuff that mum and I didn't really do. I wanted to be active when I was young. I wanted to be able to leave London and go see things and do things. And mom just didn't, she didn't learn until she was 40 how to drive. Actually younger than me now. So I think it's that idea of like I love seeing families with like their surfboards on top or their bikes on top of the car for like their cycling holiday. I definitely want to be that person one day.

You want a roof rack. I want a roof rack. Jordan, want a roof rack. And real love that the roof rack represents. Do you think that there's maybe influenced slightly by advertising? Yeah, big time. That's 85%. 85%.

And then the last 15, childhood trauma. Childhood experience, not childhood trauma. Sorry, Mom. You tried your best. There's a person I saw on social media who's also called Jordan, but her name's spelled differently. and she camps in a van and drives up into mountains and just hikes. Interestingly, I hate camping and will never do it again.

Last time was just one time too many. I was like this isn't for me. I like the driving in like the caravan, but I don't like camping. It's fucking terrifying. Okay, but you can camp in the van, right? You know that. Yes, that's what my dad and my brother do. When we went to the highlands, my dad and my brother were in the van,

and I got a hotel room, and we all had a good time. Everyone was where they were meant to be. Fair. I know. Terrible. Terrible. All this is done is making me have a complete

utter desire to be in a car by the end of summer, be on the roads by the end of summer. I believe in you, Makita. Thank you. And everything in its right place, you know, it all happened with Divine Tommy. Maybe it'll be ten.

Maybe it'll be ten theory tests. Oh, fuck off. That would take me to like August. No, that would take me next January. So what's the next topic? Do we do the senses? No, we haven't done touch, smell, sight. Okay, we're going to go through them. So next week, taste. Come on this journey through the senses with us, won't you? We're beginning with taste. Please, please, don't be senseless. Don't be senseless. Come with us. Don't be senseless. Down the senses. Enjoy your senses.

That's good. All right. Peace out. Bye. Thanks for listening to Miss Me. This is a Persefonica production for BBC Sounds. Hello, I'm Tyler West. And I'm Alfie Watts. And this is The Detour, the official companion podcast to race across the world.

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