Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! TV Series - Which character would you be?

Episode Date: October 19, 2026

Miquita and Jordan gleefully chat about their favourite TV series moments whilst answering your questions. They discuss the shows that raised us, the ones that aged like milk, and why our perspectives completely shift when we watch them through adult eyes.They get brutally honest about Sex and the City and why Carrie Bradshaw is actually entitled… maybe we should be more like Samantha?Plus, they break down the phenomenon of rewatching childhood favourites, and reveal which iconic TV character they would each want to embody in real life.WhatsApp us on https://wa.me/447849030711Get some extra juice from Miquita and Jordan every Friday at patreon.com/missmeFollow the show on instagram and TikTok @missme.4evaYou can contact Miss Me? on email at [e-mail] Presented by: Miquita Oliver and Jordan StephensProducer: Natalie JamiesonTechnical Producer: Oliver Geraghty Assistant Producer: Katie-Louise Buxton Video Editor: Danny PapeProduction Coordinator: Tom JacksonExecutive Producers: Sam MichellMiss Me? is a Persephonica show Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Can I just say that Davina McCall has just put me in a WhatsApp group. She loves a WhatsApp group. And suddenly Lee Francis is texting me. This is the most 2010 group I've ever been part of. Hello and welcome to Listen Bitch, live from Bali and London. I mean, not live. It's not live. It's very much as live.

And then edited. And all our funny bits taken out. No, it's not true. No, it's not true. It's actually very unedited. these days. That's true. We've fought for that. Today's theme is TV series. Now we haven't been specific. We haven't said TV series from the 90s, TV, well-written TV series, TV series that you hate. Why would we limit? Why would we be so specific? Jordan, we haven't. We've kicked open the

doors to possibility and opportunity. How many, never, before we get into this, right, how many TV series do you think you've watched? How many TV series? Makita, don't know your middle name Oliver, how many TV series have you fucking watched? Because you're looking at a fucking obsessive right now. Yeah, I'd probably say I'd probably watch about 400. Okay, before we get the questions, I'm going rapid fire. Succession, yes or no? Yes. Breaking Bad, yes or no? No.

Also, can I say RIP, RJ, Mitty? That's very sad. Yeah. I spent like a week on the desert island with that man. It was very trippy to see that. Anyway. I hated the island with you. Yeah, yeah. But it's really fucking sad. Anyway, break about, um, the wire. I've never watched it and I need to. Sopranos. I've never watched it and I need to. Okay. Um, lost? No. The office. Yes. I'm gonna do something for you. Okay, go on. Hit me. And this is fun because I like, let's think about it. Hit me. The 400 series hit me with five of them. Yeah. This life. Is that

with Andrew, uh, what's his book? Lincoln. Yeah. But accidentally. I can't claim it. Okay. But teachers. I throw teachers. I answer you with the teachers. I give you this life. You give me teachers back. Hit me another one.

Hit me another one. Oh, teachers. That was when Channel 4 made some good television. By the way, Andrew Lincoln going from teachers to Walking Dead, Rick Grimes, is one of the greatest. Like what? Anyway. And finally, to cap it off, rosemary in time.

Oh, for fuck. I guess I have the first question. It's ridiculous. This is ridiculous. I fucking love. I live. Do you know what you are? Do you know what you are?

Do you ever see that old advert for shreddies where there's a bunch of nannas knitting the shreddies? That's you. You knit shreddies in your spare time. I'm calling you shreddy Oliver from that one. It's a metaphor for many other things with it. Parakeets Shreddy Oliver. It's right.

Let's have our first question. You're a knitter. Hello, Miss Mees. Hi, it's Kay here from Gloucester. What characters in which series would you want to play? I'll start, telly, I'd be Kate Winsett's Mershean from Mayor of East Town. That's a great shout. I haven't seen Marev East Town, but I really should.

There's quite a lot of series that have... Amazing actors in it. And also just like rape and brutality. Like, I really wanted to watch True Detective, but there was quite a lot of cases that scared it. Jesus Christ, wait, the first series, yeah, don't go for that if it was a rape and prison. Yeah, exactly. My point, exactly.

And it really upset me because it's so well made. I know, but. avoid maybe detective shows, if that's something you're looking to avoid. It's a shame because I love a detective show, but it's always the crime. But True Detective Season 1 is fucking brilliant. There's one episode. I think this episode actually won an award. Oh my God, sorry.

As a disclaimer, I think this listen bitch is going to be overrun by my enthusiasm. I've actually been, if anything, I've watched fewer series of late, but there was a serious phase, McKita, like you don't understand. I'm going in. Well, I think everyone can relate to that. I think everyone's at a time where you just are locked into something. Oh, Mekita, all of them. So, True Detective Season 2, dead, respectfully, sorry.

But three, I don't know, Moira, Charlie, I don't know. But, but, uh, one. Season 1, Woody Harrison, Woody Harrison and, uh, Matthew McCona. Matthew McCona. I think, I genuinely think that's his best performance. All that, all that shitty other stuff that everyone loved, Dallas Byers Club, interstellarys, whistling. Shitty other stuff, Dallas Byers Club is incredible.

So I don't say shit. They're all amazing. But I'm saying they would all say that's Matthew McHoney's Renaissance. For me, it was true detective genuinely. And it's so good. There's one episode, Mekita, where like, I think either half the episode or the whole episode is one shot. Oh my God. It is incredible.

He goes undercover in this drug then, basically. He's in a bike gang. And then something goes wrong and you just follow him. And it's like, oh. Such ambition, isn't it? It's such ambition to go, fuck it. I see the whole episode one shot. I love when TV is so thoughtful.

Like people care. They sat down and they went, this is really difficult to do. And they went, fuck it, let's do it. And let's do it well. It's, there are, and I'm not exaggerating to say this. By the way, it was episode four, who goes there. Thank you.

Thank you, producer. I, like, TV series have literally changed my life. I've literally seen things in shows that have changed my life. I'm not even exaggerating this. Would you want to be, to answer the lady's question? Matthew McConaughey if you were talking about characters.

No, not literally. You're joking me. He's like a drug edited police officer. Like the fuck that. Like he might have been a genius but he was tripping balls, bro. Like what the fuck? Yeah.

I actually always wanted to be the youngest sister. So, bait. The youngest sister in Fresh Prince. Press Prince. What, Ashley? Tatiana Ali. Ashley.

Ashley, yeah. And remember she became a pop star. Boy, you knock me up. Did she? Yeah, man. I think I fancied Ashley when I was a kid. Of course, sir. She was so gorgeous and I was just like, you. I'll be you.

In my head, I'm so invested that I'm thinking who I could be so I could change, like, so I could have acted differently. Like, you know, do you watch the show and you're like, no, why are you doing that? Like, who would I be? So who in a TV series have you seen move, like the way they move in their life and you're like, you're a G? Okay, listen, right, let me say this, let me say this. Let me say this. Let me say this. I don't want to get emotional. Because it's conflicting for me. Obviously, you know, I, police dramas, like, I often like it when it's morally ambiguous

because, you know, I like people to be real about the fact that, like, we're not out here being good guys versus bad guys. Like, the wire is incredible because it has equal distribution of, like, you hate some police, you like some police, you hate some gangsters, you lost some gangsters, like, it's all equal, which is life, right? Yeah. Luther, one of my favorite TV shows of all time. Up there with Utopia, but we'll get into that later.

Jesus. Okay. All right. In Luther, DCI Ripley, Luther's like right-hand man, basically, played by, well, it's called Justin Ripley. I've just forgotten his name. I'm fucking friends with Warren Brown, right? Legend. When I made friends of Warren Brown, do you know how much I had to chill? I've seen him and I've been, oh my God, it's Ripley, whatever. It's Justin.

Anyway, he basically, again, if no one's seen, Luther, I really recommend watching it. There is a point where he puts himself on the line to save Luther. On the line. He knows his breadwin more than anyone. Everyone else is talking shit about DCI Luther. Ripley's like, yeah, yeah, come. Lufa!

You know, like he backs him. What, like he stands for him. Yeah, bro. He backs his guy. He knows, he knows him. Everyone's trying to run game on Lufa because it's like, it's hard to explain without watching it. But they're all trying to fuck him up.

No, but I bet you that really tapped into something inside all of us, which is just like that idea of just, well, maybe. It's having a connection with someone that's so deep that you can withstand external pressures and fake stories, bro. We all want that. We all want that. Yeah. You know, fuck these people forcing morality on me.

I know my brethren. Sorry, I've got to stop. Let's have another question. Jordan's got a lot to say about this subject. Yeah, there's other characters I want to be already. I'm ready thinking it in my head. It's fucking ridiculous. Hey, Makuta and Jordan.

It's Helen here. I wanted to talk about sex in the city. It was a really huge TV show when I was watching it with me and all my girlfriends in the 90s. I was dating. And I really identified with Carrie and thought she was this fantastic character. Later on, maybe about 10 years later, I was older and wiser, and I was in bed with flute. And I binge watched the whole first series all over again. And I realized that actually, I felt that Carrie was really entitled.

And it completely changed. like how I felt about that show, those stories and those characters because of how I'd changed and how I'd grown up and matured as a human being in the world. Have you ever watched a TV show either of you, where you've gone back and watched it again later in life? You're older, you're wiser, you've got a totally different perspective on that story and those characters. What was the TV show and what were the things that you've learned about yourself in comparison, being able to make that comparison looking back?

This is my favourite listen bit. I'd say Samantha is also a character I'd like to be. Sorry. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Let me just firstly, wicked question. Second, I was never able to talk about sex in the city with Lily because she's never watched it. It doesn't give a shit.

Do you know sex in the city? Yes. Oh my God. Okay. Sex in the city is seminal, brother. It's like, it's like, it creates such a social shift amongst women that like I actually use it as, I'm like, they're like, how do we do a male one? Which sounds mad because you think men have loads of,

shows. Not like Sex and the City. No, but they're not unlike Sex and City. You're so right. God, that's not a bad idea. Now, I would say, I agree. Carrie is unfortunately deeply toxic and hugely entitled. Carrie is so annoying. Yes, selfish bitch. But, but the real star of Sex and the City is not, I'm going to say something really quite blasphable. Oh my God, she's going to go for it. You're going to say Charlotte? The real star of Sex in the City is the writing from series one to series three. Ooh.

Maybe even series four. Towards the end, it does, it gets a little bit worse. Can I be clear? Sorry. So I watched Sex and the City by force initially through people, women, girls. I was dating. I think I was, I think girls I was young. And then, you know, somewhat afterwards.

I only know the series, I only know by Carrie's boyfriends. I don't know the seasons. All right. So in the beginning, like she meets. Big episode one. Yeah, yeah, right, right. That's how toxic and long this situation with him is. Yeah, I know, I get it.

Also, big, overrated, by the way. Does anyone like big? I liked that, I like that fireman guy. Was he a fireman? Is it, oh, Burger? Burger! The most toxic cunt out of all of them. A wolf.

Sorry. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, I might have got it wrong. Might have got it wrong. Is burger, who plays burger? Ron Livingston. We go from office space. Oh shit. Hold on. This is so much fun. I'm looking at all the pictures of them. This is so funny.

Oh my God. She shagged loads of famous guys. Okay. So Big in Sex and the City. Let's just keep it real. Big's toxic from the beginning and quite outrightly so. Burger, someone like Burger, which is more like season five, is such a different kind of toxicity. Right. Because he turns up in her life and he makes sense on paper. He's also a writer. He, they get vulnerable with each other early. Yeah, this isn't what I'm talking about. But they don't have good sex, right? They don't have good sex in the beginning. And it's a red flag. And then they sort of get past that. And then they start to have good sex, I imagine.

And they tell each other, they love each other. After a month. After this said month of giddiness, I remember she's like, I'm in love. And she actually is in love. But then what happens is she gets more successful. She starts selling books. And he's a writer too. And his book gets dropped.

And he becomes. the most toxic motherfucker towards her. I know, which is unfortunately very real. Unfortunately, she's a nightmare. But his behaviour towards her, it was actually really great, it was actually really great writing about the journey of a man who's threatened.

I was talking about Aden. Aidan's great, but if you watch the later and just like that series... Wasn't he a fireman? No, he's a furniture maker, darling. Aiden is the guy This face is the This is the guy I'm talking about that I liked

So like I was passively I was passive Also I didn't realize the actors Man I didn't realize that fucking Bradley Cooper and shit What the fuck? Yeah yeah yeah He plays like

One Night's Hand Yeah man Sorry Aiden's one I like Yeah so you think Hayden's good as well No no I don't think he's good It was just my listen It's not like it's best of a bad bunch

Just be real Carrie is not great Attracting I don't think this is anyone's fault I think what we're looking at It's really quite smart writing. And I think that you've really got to put that down to, I think it's Michael Patrick King. Well, the writer. Who created it and wrote it. Yeah. And he's like,

fap. He's like kind of brilliant, smart man. Very funny. And you can feel him in that early writing. Like, there's that, there's that great scene in the cab. And this is like episode two or three where Charlotte's upset that her boyfriend wants have anal sex. And it's just so cleverly done the way they do it. They pick each other up in the way. the cab and they sit down and everyone's got a different opinion. And Miranda's very like, well, you need to figure out that, like, are you going to lose all your power if you do this or are you not? And then she's like, I don't know. She's like, well, you need to figure out real quick. And then Samantha's like, look, it can be fabulous with the right lubricant and the right man.

You can have a great time. Now, this isn't like changing the world writing, but it actually is. This is a real shift in writing the way women speak to each other. No, no, no, no, no, sorry. Can I just say, Samantha actually did change the world. She did. She really did. And then at the end, they go over a speed bump. And then they go, and Charlotte goes, Charlotte goes, what was that? And then they all go, a preview.

Like, that's funny shit. And I remember watching that being like, am I allowed to watch this? Are they, did they really just say that? And I think that is a lot of TV that I'm... They spoke about sex on screen. Oh my God. Friends ended up doing it, you know. 5-7, 6, 7, 7, 7.

Seven, seven. You're fucking Ross. If you're any character, you're fucking Ross. Okay, firstly don't swear at me. Secondly, Ross Geller was my specialist subject on celebrity mastermind. If anyone knows that in the deepest part of their heart, that's me. Yeah, and I only got two questions wrong. And also I since rebuke my pre-oh, my God, this is the answer to a question.

This is the answer to the woman's question. I have since watched friends. And I'm like, fuck. Shit, very questionable. Homophobic, racist. I mean, it's actually shocking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Suleiman showed me something even darker the other day,

which is, have you seen that thing, which is Friends Without the Laughter? No, no, no, no, that's not dark, that's hilarious. Is it the scene with Ross Geller where he, no, is it where he goes to La Nata fight? No, it was when they think they, it was when Rachel and Ross had got married. It's not hilarious.

It feels like ketamine friends. Okay, firstly, everyone. Firstly, no, hold on, that actually is there. there is no laughter in that bit. Wait, okay, that's a mad... Yeah, there is. When they're at the table and they're like, who got married?

And they're like, you did. Oh, from Vegas. Yeah, sorry. No, no, I'm talking about... There's a scene where he's trying to surprise Phoebe and Rachel. Like, so he goes into a... He goes to a self-defense class. And he goes over to the guy and goes,

so what would you do in this? in a situation if, you know, if you're attacking someone, he goes, oh, we just put up the keys. He goes, no, no, no, no. What would you do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it's just silenced. It takes the laughter, right? It's so dark.

Takes the laughter and then actually is dark as fucking, he's a predator. Yes, yes, yes, that's what I mean. It made me want to have a whole conversation about canned laughter. And we could have this in TV series, actually. It wasn't canned. It's a fucking studio. Just the idea of the setup of canned laughter and television. I did that, by the way.

I did a pilot for a show with a live audience. But it never got made. It was with the AbFab writers. It was me, Joanna Lumley, Anthony Head, and Tom Davis, BB Cave. It was like a whole set built. Wow.

Yeah. And what's it like? Tell me the process. You rehearse it and then you go on to set and then you have to do it like a play because there's an audience watching it. An audience comes in. Yeah.

And you know what I'll say? Joanna Lumley did something that was fucking. brilliant, which I just, and as you know, as I'm sure you know, as anyone, if anyone's listening, Joanna Lumley is exactly how you think she'd be. She is kind, she's lovely, she's hilarious, she's wicked. And when we were in there, obviously a new show, the audience don't give a shit. I don't care that you have to really earn their laughter. And it's weird for us because I've done the same punchline like 58 times. For me, that's a nightmare. I want to be doing like improv and shit. So she comes out. Yeah.

And the first thing she does is fuck up. It's the first thing. She walks out and she goes, oh, darling, so many. Oh, fuck, I forgot the line. And then literally the entire tension of the room just went, audience bust up and then it was amazing. And I know, I know she had done on purpose.

She did it on purpose, fucking pro. It was just like some professional shit, bro. Just, oh, anyway, beautiful. Shout out Joanna Lovny. Well, I hope we answered the question. Yes. No, Friends is what I've rewatched yet since. And it's, and it is.

a bit heartbreaking. Well look there are also still great moments to it. There's still some brilliant like some brilliant like little in windows into human minds. I'll give you one now. Oh naggy. Oh, salmon skin roll. That's that's the same episode that that's the I know. Yes it is same. My favorite okay sorry that my favorite one is is the is the the letter that that is the called the one with the jellyfish thing. That's what that's my favorite. Yes. Where Rachel and Ross where they argue where she goes, so.

Does it? Does it? Yeah. No, no, no, does it? It does it. It does not. That's some funny shit. That shit is still funny.

But no black people in New York. No black people in New York. And if they're a gay, and if you fall asleep on your male friend's chest, your gay, it's embarrassing. You should kill yourself. Wow. But I would like to say, it's just a shout up to a child in line where he's saying to Janice that he's moving to Yemen.

And me and my mom still do this. She goes, he goes, he's pretending to move to Yemen. You got the address. Yeah. One Yemen place, Yemen. Me and my mom still takes each other. And he goes, that's right. It was genius though.

Like aside from the racism and homophobia. No, when it was good, it was fucking great. It was of the time. Yeah. And sex in the city. Just no black people. Yeah, no black people. Just no black people on any of these fucking shows.

New York. And then she fucks don't all. She funked on all Glover for one scene and then they go back to no black people. Let's have another question. Hello, guys. Quick question on TV series. Do you have a certain series

that take you back to a certain point in your life? Because I feel like sometimes it's similar to a song for me. Like, I'll think about watching Breaking Bad and it takes it back to like being in six form or, you know, Walking Dead, like the same sort of, period. I was wondering if it takes you back, any, is there any series that take you back to a certain point in your life and what was it?

And do you think you watched it now in the different part of your life? You'd see it differently and enjoy it. But I don't know. Get deep. Thanks. Get deep, brother. We will. I don't even know what to do with these questions. They're so emotive. Absolutely there are TV shows that remind me of parts of my life. Absolutely.

One is a bit weird, but it really, it just... Keita, can I say? I think this might be my favorite listen bitch. I can't contain myself. Like the Patreon of the fuck when we do the extra questions. Yes, this is mad. I think what's happening to me right now?

I can't talk. Go on. Say the thing. This kind of TV wouldn't excite you, but it just, this is a shit that excites to me. Okay. It was called the politician's wife.

And it was in 1995 and it's Trevor Eve and Minnie Driver and Juliette Stevenson. And it's about a politician who has a huge affair with Mini Driver. and the fallout, but it is so well written. To answer that my man's question, and just fucking yes, yes to that question. It was Phoebe got a TV in her room.

So we both got TVs in our room. Insane. We were about 10. And by the time we were 11, yeah. You got TVs in your room when you were younger then. Bro. You didn't have a phone or anything. It was quite, not everyone had a TV in their room,

but I definitely did. My mom loved TV and watched a lot of it. And also we didn't buy one. It would like a summer, like, my mom's had a spare, you know, we're talking fat, big, old square telly. It was huge, though. Can I tell you something? Never.

Ever in your life? I've never had a television in my room. Oh my God. I don't believe in it. Oh my God. I've had a small era of a projector. Yeah, that's very you. Of a projector, which was cool.

But like, I just, no, man. And then obviously I did with Jade. Okay, you did with Jade. All right. I don't understand why you would. Go to bed to sleep. Get up. What's the show? Because there's nothing cozier in the world. And it's not about sleep. It's about going into bed at like...

Harley had a telly in his room when we were teenagers. And he used to... He could only fall asleep to Scrubs, right? To like Scrubs DVD box set. This motherfucker is Spread Eagle next to me in the bed, right? I'm there listening to the same 30 fucking seconds looped on the main... section of this DVD.

I'm going, where's the remote? Oh, yeah. Of course, because of that loop. The loop of the 30 seconds of the menu option. What episodes do you want to watch? Oh, my God. Yeah, that sound. That sound.

Me and Hollywood obsessed with scrubs as kids. Oh, my God. Yeah, of course. Of course you're. It was great, actually, and it was great. But anyway, so this reminds me, if you're asking a amount of time, it's a time where we started watching TV,

particularly like BBC 2 and Channel 4, after 9 o'clock. And that's when the great shit happened. That's when this life happened. That's when when I watched dramas. That's when I started to think about writing and acting and learn a lot and I think studied a lot about TV and if you think about it

11, 12, 13, 14, 4 TV, I'm on TV four years later. So I know that this was for me a beginning of starting to study something inside me that was speaking to me, which was television. Luther was so well written that I actually watched it after a night out with the, in as small as box because you had the interpreter, the sign language person,

in the bottom corner. And I just, like, shoved it on. And I was hooked. See, but that for me... It was like a late-night repeat of the show. It wasn't even like the actual thing. It was a late-night repeat. That's what I talk about when I say

that's why I still watch telly, because it still can do that instead of streaming. Yeah, I mean, I don't think so. But... Yeah. Even night for last. I don't have a telly. I don't have a telly.

I don't have a telly. I don't own one. Okay. Um, listen, can I, can I say my one? This means a lot to me. And it's, and again, it's this deep shit, right? When I was 23 years old, I went for a breakup, one of my early big breakups kind of thing. Um, with Chenade. Oh yeah. And then, yeah, you're a part of him of us. Yeah. And then, uh, my cousin came over to my house for a week, because I was just feeling sorry for myself because it was definitely my fault. It was 100% my fault. Well, 95% 90%. Anyway. Anyway, uh, anyway. 95's quite high by then.

No, I know, but it is actually quite deep. But anyway, we'll talk about another time. The bridge, right, is a Swedish Danish crime drama that has been replicated, attempted to be replicated by Britain and by America. One's called the tunnel. And one of America's called like the fucking border or some shit, I don't know. It's Sarah thing of me, Bob, and the jumper, right? Whatever. Listen, the OG shit, Nordic noir, unbelievable.

The theme tune to this song, right? If you play the chords, oh my God. Honestly, give me goosebumps. This series held me in this moment of grief. Like, it actually held me. It makes me feel like emotional thinking about it because it was like, I would fucking get up, I'll be miserable, I'll go into the living room,

I lay down. In fact, see, it wasn't even there for a lot of this because she was, did she watch the bridge of me? She watched a bit of it. And he started and he goes, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And he goes, echo starting is fussing moon. I'm getting started and it comes too soon. And it's just like, oh.

And then it's got all these shots over this huge bridge that connects Sweden and Denmark. And she goes, real. And then it goes. Just to go back to the bridge. I really remember this moment of it coming out and being so. Wait, have you seen it? No, no, no.

I never watched it. I just remember the impact it had. It was on BBC 4 or whatever the fuck you love watching. I know. I should have watched it. was the most watched finale on that channel, by the way. Yeah, wow. Yes, because it was phenomenal.

I think I was just worried about what the crimes were. Should I be worried? No, not at all. That one, that is really not like, well, the first, okay, okay, sorry. So the big, just to give you that, the first part of it is gruesome. But then after that, it's not. Like, the establishing thing is brilliant, right? Somebody commits a murder, right?

And then puts the body halfway, like on the line between Sweden and Denmark. So they can't decide who is going to be the officer in the case. They have to put two together, one Danish guy and one Swedish woman. But can I say her character, who she plays, I've just fucking forgotten her character's name. Anyway, so Sophie, Helen, what other name is? She plays, oh my God, this character is phenomenal, right? Subverts so many, like, ideas of police dramas. Because police dramas, let's be honest, they do sometimes get a bit of samey.

It's like, there's a guy. He's going through a divorce. He also likes drinking, but he's a genius. Like, that's most crime dramas. It's like, there's, no, genuinely, if you think about it, it's like, there's a guy. He likes pills, but he's also a genius. There's a guy.

But he's such a great detective. Yeah, there's a guy. He's a great detective, but he also likes sex clubs. Like, it's just like there's all. So with this, it's like she is, I mean, he's never said whether she's autistic or not or on the spectrum, but she is just so engaged with, with fixing these things.

She wears the same shit every day. She gets undressed and dressed in the office. Like she doesn't wear makeup. She's got a cool-ass car. Like it's just, she's just fucking cool. And then there's one scene when she goes to, when she gets horny and she just goes to this club

and just looks at this guy and goes, want to want to have sex? Really? Yes. And she just fucks this guy. It just carries on. Like she's just. Freewheeling bitch.

Yes, it was just like, and then the Danish guy, he's, he's so, he's more the traditional story he you know struggling in his marriage but he's not necessarily divorced but he has this like i can't explain it he balances are out really well he's quite robust you know and then the actual story starts turning on him and let me tell you this mikita it is phenomenal oh shit i think i might fucking watch the bridge makita if i could rewatch the bridge we see season one and two three uh is

decent four i haven't some i haven't finished which is insane to me but um one and two okay i might have to watch it nut on my own, but I can do that. Choir of the non-believers, by the way, is the people who did the song. You should listen to that song today. I think it will make you feel really good. Oh, sorry, it's not the choir of the young believers, not non-believers. Oh. Let's have a fucking discussion to you about theme tunes, about TV series theme tunes that change the

fucking game. Luther, right? Paradise Circus by Massive Attack. Are you fucking kidding me, bro? Is that who it is? Oh my God, the Luther's soundtrack. And then you've got true blood, I want to do bad things to you. Oh, my God.

I could, honestly, I could do a fucking show. I could do a whole separate. Maybe you should do a podcast about TV shows, TV series. Okay, Jordan needs a minute. Let's have a final question. Hello, Mikita and Jordan. Right. Have you ever watched a series or a TV program and thought,

oh my god got to the end and thought what the fuck nothing has been answered for me have i just wasted most of my life getting involved in this series i mean come on did anyone watch the now tv series from i got to the end and went no what how the hell nothing has been answered for me and come on lost like how many series did we watch have lost and we all at the end just felt lost have you ever felt like that. I saw an explanation of lust actually. Can you tell me what? Because the fucking premise is brilliant. I loved the premise. So what, what was so of what? Wait, wait, wait, what are you talking about? Of lost. So what was so, what's the right word? What was so underwhelming for everyone about the finale of loss? Because, because, right, this is, so this is, I'm again, very passionate

about this. So just to be clear, the people who created lost or one or two of the creators of the large, larger spanning team, I love, what they do. I just started watching another series which I normally wouldn't have paid attention to but like three or four people mentioned it called lanterns right it's like a it's a DC comic series but I was a little bit like me and then I watched it I go fuck me this is good writing and then I found out it's the same fucking dude who made

lost and and he also made the leftovers the leftovers is top five no no no leftovers the series oh the TV show with Mini Driver no no the leftovers is Justin Theroux, Theroux. Oh. Makita and and live Tyler, right? It's, it's, it, the leftovers is sensational. When I tell you, it's a sensational show.

Sensational. Makita, because also not many people watched it because it's fucking slow. And then the second it kicks in, it's just like, oh my God, this is, this is magical. Like it's, I remember watching season two in a bath in Budapest, right? I was working on the TV, another TV show myself. And the end of season two happened. And I just started sobbing. There's not, they're not even saying things.

It's just, you're just feeling shifts. It's so deep. Do you know what the concept of the leftovers is? That there's a day where like three percent of the world just disappear. Just disappear. What? Yes. But that's it.

That's the entire, that's the entire prelude of the series. So it's just dealing with the leftovers of it. So you have people who go around the world telling everyone that it was all people who bad karma it was the rapture some people just sit in silence has protest like it is there's dogs who have owners that just run around who they watch their owners disappear so they just run around wild what do you mean disappear that's fucked they just disappear you find anyway like missing like missing no they disappear like they they disappear like they people watch their friend or family no disappear into thin air oh okay so it's not real well it well you have to watch it no it's

No, it really happens. No, it genuinely really happens. But the world is, is our world. So the thing that happens is mental, but the responses are akin to what I would assume we would do as people. Very clever. But hold on. Lost. So the thing of lost is all these people are united by these numbers and they're taken to their inner plane crash, right?

And they are on this island and they're figuring out what the fuck is on this island. And the reason why people feel so frustrated is because you're constantly, oh, that's what I was going to say. the writer, I thought it was genius because what's genius is you're constantly given a reason to carry on watching and you're given kind of answers along the way, but there's not really ever any like, but yes, but I think that's amazing. It did also happen during the writer's strike, so I think they lost like two seasons have lost. So there was like maybe two seasons that could have made the

ending clearer. But I'm pretty sure the ending is still reasonably what they wanted it to be. but I'm assuming that there's just basically deep religious subtext like kind of good, bad. What was it? Well, in the final season you have these two characters who are, it's hard to explain, but they're to do with the birth of the island. There's like one character called,

I can't remember what it is, like Jason or something. Or like, there's a guy with one name. The birth of the island. Yeah, and then they like, and then one person takes on the form of someone who had died on the island and then they like have this fight for like for like, it's really bizarre.

But, but the, kind of respect the craziness of it. Jack ultimately ends up lying down in the forest and imagining all the original members of the plane meeting. So people were literally like, did Lost Just End by saying it was all a dream. Because if it was, that would have been fuming. But I'm pretty sure it didn't.

Don't Dallas us. Don't Dallas us. I mean, it's incredible what happened with Dallas, isn't it? I mean, it wasn't. Oh, yeah, tell me, explain this to me. This huge. loved character dies, JR, and then I think he doesn't come back for like two years or something. And then when he comes out, they go, oh, he didn't die.

It was just a dream. It's like, you can't do that. That's like, Holyoaks. The whole last two years had been a dream. That is. Like, no, no, you can't do that. Did I tell you, but hold on, have we, we've discussed Hollyoaks though with Warren coming back, right? We've discussed that on this show.

I think we have discussed that, even though that's quite niche. I think we've managed to do that. get there. No, because it was just preposterous. One show, one show I will say, which is mental, which apparently they've repaired because I haven't seen the subsequent shows. But so Dexter, right, is again, phenomenal. So there's, there was a whole era of TV which was next level. I'm saying like 2004 to like 2015. Oh yeah. To the right strike. Brilliant show that the guy from Dexter's from, which I loved six feet under. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So Dexter's, the first four seasons of Dexter up there, seriously up there. And people will know why. Trinity Killer, my God. Anyway. But the last season.

What do you mean Trinity Killer? Oh, I don't need, Mickey, it is for Dexter Watchers only. We will shudder. It was shut. You hear Trinic, the word, if you watch Dexter, you hear the word Trinity, you shudder. He's one of the greatest fucking villains. He's played by John, John Lithgow. You know John Lithgow? Yeah, of course. Okay. So I watched the hymn play the Trinity Killer and then I went to the comedy awards, right? Me and Holly to give an award out and he walks into the green room. Okay, so bear in mind, I've only seen him as this scary guy, right? He walks into the green room and I literally, I must have recoiled and he saw me recoil, right? And then later, like an hour or so later, I was just over somewhere in agreement. He comes up behind me and goes, Dexter, like that.

And I was like, oh my God. I was like, thank you, Trinity. Thank you, Trinity. He's seen it, bro. Like, he must have just walked into rooms for that whole time just and seen. Anyway, my point is the end of Dexter season eight is fucking awful.

He goes, he gets in a fucking boat and just disappears into a storm. He's literally one of the worst endings I've ever seen in all my life. Oh, come on. After all the kind of like myriad of stories in that. Eight seasons of him may be getting to call.

Maybe not getting caught. Falling in love. Falling in love and then being killed. And then being killed. Falling in love and then trying to kill him. Finding his mom. Like, they're just mad shit. And then they're just like, oh, let's just have a fucking hurricane.

What the fuck? Not good enough. I thought Dexter was the villain, not Trinity. No, well, don't we, listen, don't get me started on, no. Dexter is not a villain. Does he like killed killers? Dexter, he is a blood splatter analyst for a police department. He's also a fucking genius psychopath, okay?

His father was a police officer who recognized that he had a darkness inside him that couldn't be tamed. So instead of trying to tame it, he gave him a strict code so that he could utilize his desire for blood by taking up people who cause more blood. Brilliant. Right. So he'll be doing this fucking thing analyzing a blood splatter and he'll go, this person who's done this is evil. I'm even not going to tell. I need to go five though. No, like the police are slow.

They're in Miami. They're all chilling. Yeah, no, totally. He's got to get on it. He's got to get on it. And then the biggest killer is this, this Trinity. No, it's more complex. So, so, yeah.

So obviously, obviously Dexter, obviously Dexter becomes, I can say this isn't the first half of the first season. The idea of him becomes a thing. That's what's so interesting. Because he's killing these killers. People start to put a name on it. They're starting to, and then the police have to look for this person, even though.

And what's genius is there's one police officer in the whole, thing who can see Dexter for who he is. And it's wild because we kind of like him, but we also don't want him to find out. He's called Doakes. It is brilliant. And by the way, Dexter lovers knows Doaks. He's the one who goes, surprise, motherfucker. You know what's in that meme? Some fras, motherfucker. Ru da's motherfucker. Anyway, I see, this is the interesting thing about listen, bitch, because I really do learn things because I would never, you know, I'm very like, oh, that's not for me. But I think I'd really enjoy Dexter. Makita, I could pitch all of these shows to you.

I feel when a show hits, like, the fucking passion, have you seen Severus? No, I refuse to watch that. That I know I don't fucking care about. That I know. I watched the first 10 minutes, did not give a fuck. Wait, wait, how? It's just not for me.

Okay, do you know what Severance is about? Yeah, it's a bit science fictiony bullshit. I think you underestimate, I think you underestimate how close to real life some of this stuff. it is, bro. And can I tell you this? I tell you what? Can I tell you the story of severance? And then we're done. No, no, no, no, no, not the show. How it was made, Miss Researcher. Okay. This writer, yeah, he always wanted to be a writer ever since he was young. Okay. He, like, put, I think he, like, tried to do some writing early doors, didn't really work out,

ended up in an office, working in an office and wishing that he could spend his time writing, right? Which I won't get into the story of Severance, but anyway. So he was, trying to do that shit then there was a competition to enter a script and get and receive support and funding the first script he ever wrote was him writing about his basically like a slightly amped up version of what he thought he was experiencing in the job he was in whilst wanted to be a writer that script gets picked up and found by ben stiller right who then puts the script into development for like six years and this guy says that what ben stiller did to the script is one of the most unbelievable things he's ever seen because he had all the ideas, all the excitement, but Ben Stiller came in and

went, like this, trim, trim, boom, boom. Yeah, like, and then fucking directed it. Oh, I didn't know Ben Stiller directed it. Yes, but some of the episodes. And, and it's like, and his, it is one of these seminal shows where it's like, oh, anyway, it's just, it's just, because it's just fucking interesting, man. I was getting so tired of just like the same fucking thing. I don't know, again, there's so many crime dramas. No, no, no, I remember. you talking about your love of Severus. It was just because it's just it's fun.

Rev you up in that way. It's great when TV does that where you're like, I'm about this. Like I have something very different but something that really recently I was just like that was some fucking excellent TV was the other Bennett sister

on BBC. Oh, you said this. It was just a great series and it was... I'm just not into these period dramas but I'll try one for you if you watch Severance. I'll watch one of these period things. I'll try Severance if you try

the other Bennett sister. All right. Thank you so much, Jordan, for being an absolute bloody delight today. Love you to see your beautiful face. Love you to hear your beautiful words. And I love when you get this into things. It's all I'm going to be talking about.

Next week's Listen, Bitch. What about cartoons? Great. The theme for next week's Listen, bitch, will be cartoons. We'll see you next week. Bye. Thanks for listening to Miss Me.

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