Miss Me? - No More Mr. Lice Guy

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver discuss bad haircuts, Coachella and intimate waxing.This episode contains strong language and adult themes. Credits: Producer: Matt Thomas Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

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Yeah, sing me some Blur. That's how I like to start a conversation, a little bit of third album Blur. I'm singing you Blur because somebody just sent me the videos of Blur playing Coachella this weekend. And no one knew any of the words. No one knew any of the songs. And he's just like, he's like, come on. And they're just like, no.

Really? He should have told them all that he's the lead singer of Gorillaz and they would have gone mental. Isn't that interesting? It is interesting because we would, I definitely like associate Damon with Blur. And Blur have just had the most incredible kind of run. It's very sort of part of British culture though, isn't it? Yes, I suppose so. Gorillaz are huge in America though.

Huge. They're like Billie Eilish's favorite band. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh, okay then. All right. Yeah, it just, there was this thing actually on Instagram and it was like

coachella looks from the past and i was like jesus christ there is no look i hate more than the coachella look about 10 years ago like the floral headpiece and the sort of navajo waistcoat and the shit cowboy boots i mean it's, it's the worst. No, it gets even worse. New rave Coachella looks were the worst. Yes. Like, do you remember like those sort of aviator glasses with the stripes across them? Yes.

And then like a headband with like tufts of hair like coming out of here. And then like fluorescent, like leopard print leg warmers or whatever else we were fucking wearing oh boombox dust coachella do you know i was remembering i was remembering that we knew a load of people that would go i don't want to name names okay it's up to them if they want to admit that they used to do this but they used to go they used to every year do this like human pyramid picture remember i do kind of really get on my nerves.

Really get on my nerves. But it reminded me there was this time where it was like, you know, everyone's going to Coachella and I've never been. I never went.

No interest. I could say what I really think about Coachella, but then on the very small chance that I ever might get invited back, then I probably won't.

Come on then. Tell me what you really think about Coachella and if we think that it eradicates you from ever playing there, then I probably won't. Come on then. Tell me what you really think about Coachella and if we think that it eradicates you from ever playing there, we'll cut it out. It reminds me of like a shit fair that turns up on your like local green.

To either Coachella, I think 2007, 2008. What, you played? I played. I mean, that is a, I don't even know if we can use that word in conjunction with whatever it was that I was doing. What was going on in 2007? I can't remember. Well, Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan were on the side of stage.

Oh yes, your best friends. Can we just, do you know what, that might have to come up in a later episode of Miss Me. Your unexpected relationship with Lindsay Lohan. That was weird. unexpected relationship with Lindsay Lohan that was weird but anyway somehow um in and amongst that crowd I got past what was my first ever experience with Callie Weed which is different to what I was used to smoking in London and I'm not exaggerating I got on stage and I forgot every single word to every single song of mine and I literally just held the microphone out to people. I was like, you do it! Luckily you didn't have a Damon Albon experience. Luckily that crowd could sing back to you every word

because you didn't fucking know what. They were MySpace heads. They knew exactly what they were doing. You were there at the right time. At the right time. I'm in Texas. How many times have you been kind of saying this? In Texas.

Kelly's actually banned me from singing. We're not allowed to reference that singer. Not allowed to discuss Beyonce ever again. Otherwise we're going to have to rename the podcast, Lily Makita, Come for Beyonce again. I love Beyonce. I think I've been to more Beyonce concerts than anyone else.

Yes. Let's not go there. We don't have any points to prove. Let's not go there. But I am in Texas with my darling mother. Oh my God. Tell me about that. What is going on? Why are you in Texas? why are you in Texas?

Um why are we in Texas? I think the old school term for it would be a jolly is that the right word a jolly. A holiday. No it's not a holiday it's like um it's like a job but we don't have to do too much work. Team building exercise? team building it's me and my mother and basically the tourist board has paid for us to come out and they're going to show us all about texas we're in san antonio um and the san antonio tourist board is going to take us like to like today where are we going kelp we're going to the unesco world heritage site me and my mom as you know did a did a show around uh the caribbean for the bbc for that for this corporation and um we are trying to figure out where we want to go next so if the tourist board want to show us around san antonio

we can essentially be wrecking it, then that's what this is. That's nice, isn't it? But I've had the worst toothache. And you know when you fly with toothache, oh my God. Oh my God. And I thought, well, that's quite good because you said you wanted to talk about the healthcare system. So that works quite well.

Wait, and what have you got? Like an impacted wisdom tooth? Where's the source of the pain? Right here, bottom left. Have you had your wisdom teeth out? No. Have you? I have had all four of my wisdom teeth removed. This is a wisdom tooth that is begging to be taken out. And I was trying to do it privately.

And I'm in so much agony that when I get home, I'm going to NHS the shit out of it and get it taken out. Thank God for the NHS. Do you know what? Because you said to me last week that you wanted to talk about healthcare and stuff, I actually started Wikipedia-ing the NHS. Oh yeah, what did you find out? Well, just simply plainly

because I said to Kelly who works with my mum who's on this trip with us, I said, how would you describe what the NHS is? And we couldn't really do it. You don't really have to describe it to anyone except for Americans, because I think that America is literally the only country in the developed world

that doesn't have universal healthcare. The UK's not the anomaly for having it. America's the anomaly for not having it. I believe so. I mean, don't quote me on it. I mean, literally, I am probably going to quote me on it i mean literally i am probably going to be quoted on it because that's exactly what will happen but this is nice listen to what it says the things that it had to have three core principles that it meets the needs of everyone

that it be free at the point of delivery and that it be based on clinical need not ability to pay isn't that like the total that's the exact opposite of american health care uh yes i mean there are two programs there's medicare and medicaid um i believe medicare is for like 65 and overs and medicaid is for people in a you know very low income bracket right okay so that they can access some you know know, emergency care. But you get jobs where healthcare is part of your job, right? I remember that from something. Sometimes, yeah, sometimes. I employ a couple of people here

and healthcare has worked into their salary, so yes. And sometimes it isn't. It's funny, the American's attitude. I mean, listen, I'm married to an American and so I can only really go by his attitude to it. But it feels like it's like a class marker, almost, healthcare and your attitude towards it. And I guess, you know, depending on how much money you're spending monthly

on your, what do you call it, health... Policy. Policy, on your policy, determines how much access to different healthcare providers is. But David seems to be, you know, as soon as something is like remotely wrong with him. So like, you know, he, like literally if his tummy rumbles, he's like, right, I'm going for a full body scan and I'm like really okay but why would he do that if it's expensive well it's not because he pays a lot of money for his health insurance

in the contrast to how his attitude towards health care which is you know oh my tummy's rumbling I'm gonna need to go and have a full body scan um and probably take about 17 different medicines to make sure that I haven't got something that I probably never had in the first place um you know you will literally have to drag me to the doctor's kicking and screaming before I go and get checked up for it I mean I have to have been in bed for like two weeks before I go to the doctor really yeah I just don't I think it's just having grown up with the NHS it's like I don't really want to be like a burden on something that's so useful to people and so overstretched at the moment that it's like you know if I don't need to be in that waiting room taking up space then I'm not going to

be you know and also I just hate the doctors yeah there is that but yeah it's um it's weird like i haven't even got a doctor here yeah i've been here nearly four years and i don't have a primary care physician what about the kids don't you need a gp yes they do they've got pediatricians they have different doctors here you have grown-up doctors and kiddie doctors and they yeah the schools are very um you know they all have to have like these sort of like inoculations and vaccines um and they're not allowed in the school unless they've had them and it's all a computerized system so as soon as they are due something then the school let you know they go like ethel's not allowed into um school until she's had her hep b jab or whatever

it is it's quite nice that they keep on top of it like that and you can just follow their lead it is but you know what ethel is bigger i mean i'm sorry marnie who's my youngest is bigger than ethel so quite often you know the doctor gets them confused so ethel's had to have all of her stuff like twice because they've assumed that ethel being the smallest one is the youngest youngest one. And so Marnie has... Anyway, yeah, so it's been a whole drama getting their vaccinations because Ethel hates having injections and has had to have twice as many as Marnie has had to have.

I can't believe Ethel's had to go through it twice. That's awful. I know. I digress. Anyway, when we did our green card applications at Christmas, or just after Christmas and came to London, there were a bunch of stuff that I didn't have on my record. And so I had to have like 12 vaccines in a day. And then I came to see you in Kenya the next week.

I was like carrying small amounts of 12 different diseases. Yeah. For that holiday, thanks. But yeah, I don't have a primary care physician. So actually I said to someone, I said to a friend of mine, you know, do you have a doctor that you can recommend? And she gave me a list and I called a couple of them and they were like, it costs $3,500 for the first appointment

and we don't take insurance. I'm like, what? Just to have a GP? Yeah. I guess maybe you're meant to go and see them, you pay for it and then you do the paperwork with your insurance company and try and get the money out of them. But I was like, what world is this?

I'd rather just not go to the doctors. I'm fine, thanks. But what if you were, okay, say I lived in the projects, right? I'm poor. I'm unemployed. I'm hit by a car. My leg is broken. I'm fucked, basically.

Well, I looked into this this week. Obviously, some of these numbers will fluctuate. I looked into this this week. Obviously, some of these numbers will fluctuate. But an ambulance call out in America is $1,277. 1,200 quid to get to the hospital. If you needed to stay the night in the hospital, it would be $2,883. So that's one night.

My hip replacement, which I had, would have cost me, at the ripe old age of 23, would have cost me $40,300. And so if you don't have that money, do people just suffer in silence? I mean, I don't understand. Well, no. This is the sad, the really sad thing is the, you know, the hospitals and the healthcare providers have a duty of care. So if somebody gets brought into your hospital and they have this, you know, they've got a broken leg,

they are bound by the law to fix your leg. Right. But, you know, if you're not able to pay the bills, then, you know, they start coming, you get bailiffs start to come over. So, and then you lose your house. So yeah, it's awful is what it is. binging TV shows all night. Save up to $20 per month on Rogers internet. Visit rogers.com for details. We got you Rogers. I wanted to talk about my hair journey today with you, Lily, because I think your hair's never

looked better. Cause I was looking at some old pictures of us. Well, not even old, from your birthday last year when we had the lunch. And your hair was like the short blonde bob, I suppose, for Couturian, for the play. For the Pillow Man play, yeah, I had a blonde bob, exactly. Yeah, and you've had a bob quite a few times. I've never done a bob. Yes, you have. No, I've never had a bob. I've seen you with short with like

hair to here in fact that picture that you posted on Instagram of us the other day you had that short hair turned to that oh god I hated that weave that was a weave and um I I've had quite a difficult time with weaves so is this basically by the way I've got hair extensions in yes well you have hair extensions. But I think when it comes to it, because basically I was walking down the street in Hackney the other day and I saw three young black girls and they all had plaits. And they, I don't know, they just had this kind of like freedom. I personally felt very like locked in and limited by my weave,

which I had for 12 years. And I was told to get it by telly people because I was told it was more camera ready. And you know how much I hated it. And basically, if you have a weave, you have to be a bit like you, groomed and look after it. That is not who I am.

So my weave was, as you know, always a bit lopsided. A little bit like, a little bit like, to the right. Like I didn't, it wasn't really welcome in my energy field the weave wasn't welcome the weave wasn't welcome because you didn't look after it no and i didn't want it i think the girl the girls that have weaves that look great they groom it they sleep with scarves at night time am i that person no not all. But then five years ago, I decided, as you said, I had a weave that was a bit like a bob. And then I took it out and realized that my real hair was down to my bum. And I was like, what am I doing?

Like, actually, what is this about? And then I decided to put it in five plaits. Then 10. Then 15. And then it turned into what we have today. Which is how many today? God, like, hmm, 70? Hair is a deep thing. 10 then 15 and then it turned into what we have today which is how many today god like 70 hair is a deep thing like i i honestly it changed my life the day i decided to do those five plaits and then

do 10 and then do 20 and i think it would kind of like a it kind of freed me from my weave hell and then i subsequently changed my life. That's how important hair can be, I think. Would you ever consider having a weave again? Never, ever, never, ever. I told you, having to pretend to your boyfriend that you don't have a weave is ridiculous. It's like you're not being intimate with your partner

if you're pretending that the hair on your head is yours and it's actually not and you have this kind of tracks and bumps that you never want them to feel. Yeah, but I'm sure that there are many women out there that don't pretend. No, this is what I mean. You have to be a weave person if you're going to have a weave

and I wasn't. I wasn't like... Like, just David knows you've got extensions right now. I mean, I've told him. Whether he knows or not is another issue. Whether he remembers. I don't know whether that sort of information has landed and stayed in his head. I remember when you got a weave when we were young.

Was that to copy me? Yeah. Yeah, no, it was to copy you. No, it's because I had short hair and I wanted long hair. I'm talking about a lot earlier. I'm talking about when we were like 14 and you got extensions. And I was like, oh.

Yeah, but I never had a weave when I was 14. You did this one time. This one time. No, I didn't, Makita. That's absolute lies. I went to like a great lengths hair studio in Knightsbridge for about seven hours. Oh yeah, great lengths.

And I had terrible hair extensions. Yes, that's what I meant, sorry. Terrible hair extensions. And that's not what you had. So I wasn't copying you. I just wanted long hair. Well, it's because I got the dreads. Don't you remember I got dreads?

Because basically if you go to squat parties, you either shaved your head or you got dreads. And I went to the dread camp. And then I decided after being in New York with all these fancy chicks that I wanted to have like fancy hair so I went to this place in South London that Garfield sent me to and he cut all of my hair my hair was very long and he cut it all off it was like this tiny little short fro I was in bits and then he just sewed this long dark black weave into it when I was like 14 yeah I was young when i went to i remember going

to this fucking hairdressers with um after school one day and alfie was getting a haircut and it was when we were like feeling particularly alfie's my brother i was feeling particularly competitive with him at the time and he was having a haircut and i was like well i want a haircut and I was like well I want a haircut and uh I never met this hairdresser before never been to this hairdressers before but for some reason decided that now was the time to have a pixie cut and I was like 11 or 12 or something and I hated it I like looked legit like a boy for about four years. And, um, and I, I just wanted extensions so badly. I just would ask my mom all the time for extensions. And it was like, you know, it was like 500 quid to get a hair ahead of extensions in those days. Very. And also it's expensive to keep it up and have extensions in your life constantly. And also it's expensive to keep it up and have extensions in your life constantly. Anyway, I couldn't afford the hair extensions and I wasn't about to like get a proper wig.

So I just waited until I could afford it. And somehow I managed to like scrape 500 quid together when I was about 14 or 15 and I got some terrible hair extensions. Anyway, I really like my hair now. I like your hair now. Thank you. I've always liked your hair to be honest i don't think there's ever been a time where i've thought makita's hair looks terrible what come on come on that's very sweet but i'd say a good four or five years it was a terrible patch but it's it's it's really freeing to like fly and travel and do photo shoots and stuff like that for work and not

have to worry about your hair. Do you remember you sent me to a hairdresser's once in Mayfair and he dried my hair. And obviously when my hair's dry, drying from being washed, it goes really big, really big and curly. And he sort of pointed at it and kept laughing and asking other people in the salon to come look at it and laugh at me what yeah i don't want to shame him it was just a product of the time it was about 15 years ago i don't remember that hairdresser who was that i don't know maybe he was called neil maybe he was called neil but then my mom said the same thing that when she's growing up like it was like do you have curly nappy hair basically like a black person that you it's like a problem to be fixed like an issue to have curly, nappy hair, basically like a black person. It's like a problem to be fixed, like an issue to have curly hair.

I hope that's different now. I mean, your girls have quite straight, easy to manage, lovely hair. Ethel's strawberry blonde. Yeah, Ethel's very into her hair and maintaining it, Marnie, not so much. I have to really like scrape it back and like put it in a ponytail because the thing is at that age that they all just get knits so i'm always just like she would just have her hair like every day if she had her own way but yes i have to yeah tie her hair up um so that she doesn't come home with head lice i we all got head lice earlier on in the year just before i got

these extensions put in and we had a guy come over they have like a really effective system here where you get guys they cut they're called lice busters and they come over and they comb your hair out they don't actually put the knit lotion in they do it with like bicarbonate of soda and condition hang on a company come to sort out your knits? Wow, that's so American. My mum would have loved that. I mean, it's kind of crazy. And then I was quite fascinated by this. And the guy came, there was this company of brothers that came over

and they did it. And I was like, how did you get into this? And he was like, he was saying that he like got sober 10 years ago and then someone in his family got it. And he just realized that he really enjoyed the process I was like never be me but okay whatever floats your boat wait a minute I just love I just realized I love denitting people's well I think he like had like a highly stressful job in the city or something like working in finance and then he changed he got sober and realized he needed to

change his life this thing happened and he was like actually I am I'm enjoying this I'm going to make a business out of it and now he's you know they do pretty well they're like the number one lice busting agency in Brooklyn so I was sitting there and then it came to me this idea and I was like can I pitch something to you and You know, you can take it or leave it, but you know, it's yours basically if you want it. And he was like, yeah, what is it? And I was like, I've got an idea for your business, what you could name it.

He was like, we've got a name, Lice Busters. I was like, this one is a bit better. No more Mr. Lice Guy. No more Mr. Lice Guy. That is funny shit. Oh, lyrics dread. That's incredible. Thank you.

No more Mr. Lice Guy. And I think we just named this did they like it did the lice busters like it did they say we're good with lice busters thank i mean i i haven't checked to see if they've renamed their company but um he was like yeah that is kind of good i was like it's not kind of good it's legitimately genius I love the nice timid life foster guy yeah I suppose that is kind of nice Lily Allen can I talk to you about a particularly harrowing bikini wax that I had this week? Oh, yeah, sure. Why not? Let's do it. I said to you that I have bikini wax every three weeks and I'm not even in a relationship.

And you said it's a little bit more sporadic for you. Yeah, I mean, it can go, I can go like seven months without doing mine. What? I can go like seven months without doing mine what I mean I will say that when I do go after like a seven month um you know wax-free stint it is excruciatingly painful and I have to like you know do a little chop with the scissors just to like make it a little bit less offensive for the person that's gonna have to be tending to my not just less offensive that makes it hurt a lot less if you if you shorten sorry it's terrible to discuss on miss me but it's really no why would it be terrible it's really important um but i've decided i'm gonna do lasering because i'm sick of this

shit i'm more and what i'm sick of is the anxiety before a bikini wax. My mum is black and hairless. Like she barely has eyebrows. She just doesn't, she's not a hairy person at all. So she's never really had to shave her legs or even shave under her arms or wax anything. The only people I remember doing things like getting waxes and stuff was probably your mum, actually, when we were kids.

I think I remember her getting things like bikini waxes. But I only started getting them in my 20s, but that's now 20 years of bikini waxes. And I don't know if men really understand, they really, really fucking hurt. It's not natural to put hot wax on a body and rip the hairs out of the most kind of delicate part of your body. No, although I did have a boyfriend that waxed back when i was young i bet you did you like a hairy bastard but it was funny when

they told me that they um had a hairy back and then they got it waxed they were so scared of revealing that piece of information to me and that and were like, I've got to tell you something. And I was like, okay, it's fine. Oh, my God. It was that kind of like anxiety. It was like, you know, I've got to tell you. And I was like, okay. Anyway, and then it was like, I've got a hairy back and I need to get it waxed.

I was like, not an issue. It's okay, babe. That's okay, babe. I was like, you think that's bad? Look at this. Seven months and counting do you have you ever been in a relationship where a boy has asked you to sort it out yes oddly enough that same relationship interesting interesting yeah because i used to have a strip this maybe is too much but whatever i used to have a strip. This maybe is too much, but whatever. I used to have a strip.

And then when I was 28, I was going out with a younger boy called Sean. Sean, who was a plumber. Yes, he was a plumber from South London. I loved Sean. And he said, oh, can you get it all taken off? And I was like, that's disgusting. And I did it and I loved it. It's so nice and clean. That's what. And I did it and I loved it. It's so nice and clean.

That's what I get. We call it a, it's not a Brazilian. Hollywood, yeah. Yeah, that's what I get. It's the Hollywood. Jesus Christ, it's so painful. You know, every time I do it, she goes to me, you should really consider laser.

And I go, yeah, you're right. I'll do it next time. Never have I done it should we hold hands and do the laser journey together if this podcast becomes successful I'll learn Italian and we'll get our vaginas interesting um someone I know is getting laser two people I know are getting lasers lasering at the moment and they both call me afterwards to say, Jesus Christ, that really fucking hurts. Really? It hurts?

Of course it does. They're like burning the hair follicles at the root. I don't know if that, I don't know if it hurts. I've had like tattoo removal by laser and that didn't really hurt. But I don't think also the other thing people don't understand is that it's also uh you know quite intimate and exposing once you do your front you're then asked to turn around and get basically essentially get on all fours and spread apart your bum cheeks like it's very intense as a process sometimes it depends of the style of the depends of the style of the waxer because sometimes it's just like can you pull your legs back and then also like it's like how sorry what how do i get my legs back and spread my butt cheeks and then you're sort of chatting about the weather with genuinely your butt cheeks apart it's like i don't think people understand

how intense bikini waxing is. And also because of the hands involved, you can't just like look at your phone. No, no, no. You have to chat. I think I always chat to my waxers. It's weirder to have someone doing something so intimate and not speak to them.

It's not, it's also disrespectful. Yeah. I really like my waxing lady. Yeah. I really like mine. That's good. Cause they're really, get really involved my waxing lady. Yeah, I really like mine. That's good because they're really, we get really involved with our vaginas.

So nice that we like them. Would you encourage your kids to get waxed? This is a weird, this is taking a weird turn. I don't know. I mean, I didn't really have a beautifying conversation with me ever. Oh my God. Not only did my mom not have that conversation with me, but I remember being shamed very early on because my mom just used to leave the razor on the edge of the bath.

Right. And so, and nobody had the conversation with me. And once I just picked it up and was like, what's this for? So I just shaved my legs. I was, must've been like seven or like

seven or eight and not only that shaved my arms me too I shaved my arms and now I have hairy arms and I didn't even have hair on my arms Lily exactly same oh my god we've got one but I remember coming downstairs a couple of days after the shaving incident must have happened and I was sitting on the sofa watching tv and I think it was Harry my stepdad and he kind of was like stroking my leg and in a sweet way you know we were like watching tv as a family and he was like what is this stubble in front of everyone and I oh. And then you have to shave again to get rid of that. Yeah. And the cycle begins.

And the cycle begins. The cycle of shame. The cycle of shame. Hair shame. But I do really like being smooth and waxed. I really do. I actually couldn't give less of a fuck. And also, I feel like the layer of hair, quite frankly, gives me warmth.

And I like to be warm and cozy. You're a lucky husband. Sometimes I'll look at my legs and I'll be like I'll be like oh they look really horrible but they are keeping me cozy. So you're not in a marriage where he was like he'd be like babe can you maybe sort this out because I have friends whose boyfriends tell them to get waxed. No I don't I can't think what he would say. I think it's more, less that he would ask me to get it done, but more when I had it done would shower me with praise. And that's exactly a few relationships I know. And then I'm like, why don't you do this all the time? Look how happy he is.

Just wax yourself to make your partner happy. That is not the moral of this conversation, by the way. That's not what I'm saying. But it is interesting to hear. I got to get out there. Texas isn't going to Texas itself, Lily. Are you going to go eat some barbecue and stuff like that? Yeah, I guess so.

We're on this really nice river in San Antonio. We're like on the water. And the lovely lady Bree, who came to do a bit of makeup for me today, I asked her about San Antonio. We're like on the water. And the lovely lady Bree, who came to do a bit of makeup for me today, I asked her about San Antonio. She said 80%, 70 to 80% brown people, which is starkly different to the rest of Texas, obviously. So it's quite, I'm quite interested, but I have to say where I am looks like a sort of like a Playmobil land. Like there's no litter anywhere and it's it's all like clean and like a bit dull like i quite like it but it's somewhat eerie it is really early in the morning so i'll see but i'm very i'm curious i'm curious about san antonio i know little and i can't wait to find

out more yeah you should uh just go and get involved with white america and go to a like a rodeo i do want to go to rodeo i do i'm good we're going to the rodeo a day after tomorrow oh really that would be fun i've been to rodeo before it's it is highly amusing i bet i'll be wicked and also i want to get on that kind of buckaroo thing just like at a bar um yeah okay but i mean that to me i would i feel like I'm past the age of appropriateness. I would hurt myself on that now. Well, I'm a year older than you. So what are you saying?

I mean, I'd be careful. All I have to do is like, you know, sleep with the wrong pillow and my neck's out for weeks. God, you sexy bitch. That's some sexy shit. No, no. It's yee-haw time, right? It's like, you know, lasso and sort of like,

it's all about the hips and core strength, which I have very good core strength. I work on that a lot. Good luck. Thank you. I'll take some bitches. Also, I'm excited to get some cowboy boots. Some like actual, original, vibey, old school,

real cowboy boots. I don't know how I really feel about vintage shoes, but someone else's smelly old boots. No! What are you talking about? That's the best vintage shoe. Also, you've got tiny feet, so they're like made for you.

Every pair of vintage shoes I ever find that I love is like size five. You're size five, right? Five and a half. Maybe I'll get you some cowboy boots. You can have your Jessica Simpson post-Nick Lachey breakup moment. Okay, but I'm still in a relationship. And also, can you make sure they're not too long?

Because I have the shortest calves known to man. Aww. I love your little legs. It's not funny. I hate them. It's not funny. I hate my little legs. They're beautiful.

They're disgusting. Lily, they're beautiful they're disgusting lily they're beautiful i love you i'll call you next week bye i think we have to tell people that we will see them for listen bitch on monday which is about the patriarchy oh god uh no don't worry i am pepping it up after the patriarchy i've got a really good theme but let's for now this week focus on the patriarchy I've got a few things I'd like to say and I will see you then we will see you for

listen bitch I'll see you for listen bitch I'll see you for listen bitch beautiful I can tell someone's been in the studio

the past couple of weeks it's back she's still got it thanks for listening to Miss Me It's back. She's still got it. Thanks for listening to Miss Me with Lily Allen and Makita Oliver. This is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds. My name is Annie McManus. And my name is Nick Grimshaw.

How long have we known each other, babe? Probably 20 years now. And in that time, we've always worked in and around music, right? We have. So it kind of makes sense that we do a podcast about it. It sounds like he's been 20 years in the making. It's not Avatar for podcasts, basically.

But it is good. So we put the world to rights with regards to music. It's all the stuff that you'd want to chat to your mate about over a pint. Side-tracked with us, Annie and Nick. Listen on BBC Sounds. Go back to school with Rogers and get Canada's fastest and most reliable internet.

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