Miss Me? - Say Thank You to Daddy

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver discuss The Oscars, starting a commune and the Trump-Zelensky meet.This episode contains very strong language and adult themes. Credits: Producer: Flossie Barratt Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. Dear Daughter, Stars from the BBC World Service. Listen now by searching for Dear Daughter wherever you get your BBC podcasts. BBC Sounds music radio podcasts. Today's episode of Miss Me contains some very strong language and some adult themes. We're going to be talking about sex, drugs, rock and roll. Okay. Hello, welcome to Miss Me. Hello, I'm Gollum today. So Lydia's gonna do this creepy voice for today.

Hello, my precious. I feel really fucking weird today. So if you want to, as Prince would say, if you want to get weird with it, then you've come to the right place. Why don't you tell us what's going on? Isn't there some astrological alignments of the planets that's happening this week? Oh, right, maybe that's what's going on.

Phoebe just left, I should've asked her. Yeah, I think there's some weird thing happening. She said that March would be a positive clusterfuck and this doesn't feel positive, I feel shaky and retrograde-y and weird, but I think I'm also PMS-ing. So it's like when PMS meets the planets. Mm. Yeah. Completely over. Completely over.

So Lily's home. She's back home. We had a bit of time together at the weekend. She came around mum's. Mum made her favorite meal. Oh my god, I've got a takeaway box. I forgot in the fridge, I'm gonna have that for my lunch after. Yay. I wasn't offered anything to take home and you were given Tupperware. You were given whatever you wanted.

We had honey baked chicken, mac and cheese, avocado salad, white rice, gravy. Although should we bring mom out without the rice? No. No. No, no Andy Oliver makes no mistakes in the kitchen. Oh, we could do the sauna thing. I would like to know, right? My dad, stepdad Garf, asked my mom, would you like a sauna? I'd love a sauna. I want to build a sauna in our garden. And my mom said, absolutely not,

don't want it. He said okay fine. Then we all went to Kenya for Christmas, Garfield commissioned the sauna to be built while we were away and we came back to this massive sauna in my mom's garden. It's not that massive I'll just say that and it is tucked around the corner out of sight. So you are on that side. I'm just like, you know, playing devil's advocate slightly. I think that it is not that offensive. The most offensive thing about it is inside it. The lighting job is terrible. And the whole thing is sort of like giving day six at Glastonbury. Someone's like, do you want to go? I bought a sauna with me. It's by my caravan. And it's like, no, I really don't want to go in your sauna at all.

This isn't Garfield's fault. He's been running Gorilla Bar at Glastonbury for nearly 20 years. It's in his soul. It's in his bones. And I would say the worst thing is not the lighting, Lil. I'd say the betrayal. I'd say that's the issue. I mean, it's his house too. Like if he wants a sauna, then you know, I mean, he's got one now. So yes, well, he's got one now. So that was lovely. Sunday at mom's house. Before that though, there was a flurry of award ceremonies. This weekend, we had the Brit Awards, which I watched with the right people. I watched with both Phoebe's, Naima, my mum, my nan, and Garf. So there was like a real cross-section of commentary. But the overall vibe was not good

enough. Oh my God, how are we here? And I was thinking about what some of the main problems were. And I think, because I also don't want to just like take down award ceremonies every time there is one because I do love them. But the appointment of Jack Whitehall I think was inappropriate. He wasn't the right person. Ooh, why? I really don't want to bring Jack Whitehall down. Don't because he's my mate actually.

Well I definitely kissed him backstage at the Anime Awards. When I was hosting backstage with Grimmie, I remember that. I was like, my God, I've kissed this person. Even was outside the Met Club. Oh dear. And that wasn't even our haunt. I think less said the better. Less said the better. Let's move on. Let's move on. Move on. Bring it down. But I felt like he brought a sort of condescending, somewhat glib attitude to the proceedings. And I feel like there is a room full of creatives and artists who have given us work this year

that doesn't need to be kind of undermined. And that was like the whole MO of the tone. And it was just a bit like, there was over 10 jokes about musicians taking cocaine. It's like, okay, can we, do you know what I mean? Dated, over. When Jarvis Cocker was doing that and people were doing that and having actual lulls.

Yeah. I don't believe that the musicians are taking cocaine at the Brit Awards anymore. Yeah, but that's what I mean. It's sort of like talking about the heady days of something that doesn't really exist anymore. Now we're in this like influencer corporate room. And we're talking about it like we're in this room full of rock and roll stars. It's like no KSI is here. It's fine. Charlie won. I'm sure you were very pleased.

Was pleased. I mean, you know, I called it a brat, you know, it's, it's she she should have won. Yeah. I mean, you know, I called it a brat, you know, it's, she should have won. It was a very good effort. She totally like took over the year in terms of everything. So yeah, of course she should have. Impact was made. Ethel, my daughter was furious that Central Sea didn't win in any of his categories.

Me too Ethel. I actually really didn't understand that. He's had such a huge year. So if you- She was like like who the fuck is Stormzy? I was like I did a song with him actually Which then Mabel went on live lounge and covered my bit rude I remember it was an absolute disgrace for moment for the family His speech I mean it was like oh, I didn't see the speech

I didn't see the speech. I didn't see any of it because I actually can't bear it. I know you can't. Now, I'm there to observe and dissect, but as I've told you, I love an award ceremony. So I do, I enjoy dissecting them, but I do want them to be better. I like the red carpets, but I can't really, I mean, there's not, oh God, there's not much to be celebrated in British music at the moment. Well, you know, I went to Lauren's dad's thing on Friday night. Our friend Lauren Jones sort

of launched this thing called the Rock and Roll Public Library to display her dad, Mick Jones, from the Clash's personal archive. So that was an event full of, you know, all the brilliant creative people that are in our extended family. Was Pockets there? Yeah, Pockets was there. I meant more daddy G from Master of Attack was there, but sure, Pockets came too. He was asking off to you. And it kind of, I don't know, it just reminded me about like that creative force that was at the forefront of everything that we grew up around. That was like the kind of driving force of all the success of these people that we've grown up with. And I just, in that room at the Brit Awards, it was just like, where's creativity gone?

Well, I think that what's happened is, you know, in the 80s, a lot of the artistry and a lot of the creative output was a response to what was happening in society and politically. So there was pushback, wasn't there? You know, a lot of the clashes, you know, we were talking about the war in Vietnam, they were talking about thatcherism, so were the sex pistols, like everyone was sort of pushing back against, you know, capitalism and right-wing politics. So thank God we're not there anymore. No, but it's like, it's, it's interesting, isn't it, as a contrast and where we are as human people and where artists sit now. Yes. Where social commentary is concerned. And I think that's why I can't watch things like

the Brits because I'm just like, what is this? It's just like self-interested, like people trying to get secure brand deals. Yeah. It's got nothing to do with art. Nothing to do with art anymore. Also, it's because it's on Saturday night on ITV1. So its offering is in the shape of Saturday night, shiny floor telly rather than, you know, I feel like they feel like that's covered now. The independent creative artistry is covered with the Mercury. So this has just turned into like Ant and Dec's Saturday night takeaway.

Yeah. Saying that, do you like Lola Young? I don't. Why? I didn't even know who that was. I don't know who that was. And Phoebe told me and I was like, this is, I don't think this is very good at all. No, I like it.

Ezra. Ezra came to work. Ezra won best group. Ezra came to work. Ezra had their after party at Ronnie Scott's. Like that's how you do a Brit's after party. I didn't go, but Tysi did. That's why she's a bit hungover at Sunday lunch. They came to work. I felt like they called their art director, whoever works on their creative with them and said, let's make sure this is cohesive and makes sense to who we

are and our output. Everything else felt a little bit all over the place. Apart from Jade, I thought Jade rocked her performance. Obviously, because she goes out with Jordan, we were in Kenya all together for our family holiday over New Year's. And when we were there, she found out that she had two Brit nominations. She was so sweet and thrilled about it. And when she won, my mom jumped up in the air. And just to see Jordan have so much pride in his girl and let her shine, you know, they're both in the same industry. He has no ego about it.

He just lets her shine and win. And it was beautiful to see. Very, very proud of you Jordan. You're a good, good man. A great boyfriend, wonderful partner. We could all do with a little Jordan in our lives. Well done, JD, you killed it. But then if you happen to see the Oscars as well,

this is what I mean, it was a minefield of award ceremonies this weekend. Surprisingly, political as fuck. Really? I didn't watch it, obviously. Yes? Oh, you didn't even watch that? No, I really don't care.

I really don't care about any of this shit. Sorry, I'll be like that guy from Lorraine. I'll be the like Oscars rundown guy. I mean, I did see that Mikey Madison won and I was happy about that. And then I was talking to my mum this morning. I said, oh, you know, my mum said, you're still getting over Anora winning five awards. And I was like, what's your problem with the Nora? She was like, well, I just think that if you're, you know, wanting to talk about the oppression of sex workers, then maybe the first shot of the film shouldn't be

20 minutes of an upturned ass. I was like, if anyone knows, if anyone knows producer Alice Knowen, like, it's not like she's coming from no place of authority on this. She was like, I don't know, misogynistic crap. I was like, okay, how are the kids? Yeah. There are quite a lot of people that think Inora isn't quite as good as the hype surrounding it. God, the way we have to watch the Oscars in this country is Jonathan Ross in a room with this sort of audience on these round tables in this, like, I don't even know what the setup is trying to explain.

And it was Marielle Frostrup and Jason Isaacs and then this other lady. And Jason Isaacs bounced. He did like the first hour and then just went and then just left. So it was just Marielle Frostrup and this film expert and Jonathan Ross. Marielle Frostrup tells it like it is really good to have her on screen. left. So it was just Mariela Frostrubb and this film expert and Jonathan Ross. Mariela Frostrubb tells it like it is. Really good to have her on screen. Very smart, articulate woman. What is it? So what, there's like a dinner party situation where they're watching it

on a big screen? Yeah, it's like a fake Oscars party. And then they sort of go, we're going to go back to Hollywood now. And then they come back to this like really quite depressing room to talk it out with this film expert. I feel like they should rethink that. You know, the Eurovision Song Contest when they usually just have like Graham Norton in a little like room, like a little sound room and he can see it and he commentates on what's going on.

Maybe Mariela should just have her own one of those next year. Yeah, a bit like sports commentary. Yeah. Yeah. I think Mariela could have done it. I'm sorry, Jonathan Ross, but I just thought she was brilliant. Excellent. But yes, it was very political. It was, I mean, obviously you can't be in America right now and have an award ceremony and not say anything. What I was surprised by is I didn't- What do you mean? What's going on in America? What do you mean? What's going on in America?

What do you mean? What's the problem? Well, well, the way to talk about it, I'll talk about it like many... Makita, don't you think that you should be saying thank you to me right now? Before we move on with this conversation, have you not got anything to thank me for? Yeah. Yeah? Don't. Please don't talk loudly, okay. Please don't talk loudly. This is definitely a room for you. I'm here for you, but I'm going to bully the fuck out of you and make

you feel like shit. And I only want to help you if you grovel. This is me and Lily acting out the Zelensky Trump conversation of recent times. I felt like there was a pornographic quality to it. Like it felt like the intro to like a sort of sadistic, like sexy scene. And it was like, aren't you going to say thank you to daddy? Maybe I'm just a pervert. But I felt like there was there was like a there was a dominating energy. It was like very subby dommy. Toppy bottom.

There was one point where Trump said, and then yeah, so that means that stuff will stop being killed. And I was like, right, okay, wait a minute. So I feel like we're here to talk about peace, a ceasefire, but there doesn't seem to be this empathy or even acknowledgement of that being the conversation. Suddenly it was like, what have we just walked into? Why are you here? Because I'm, because Paul Zelensky thought he was here for a very different chat. Let's play, let's play a clip from it. Have you said thank you once this entire meeting? No, in this entire meeting, have you said thank you once? This entire meeting? No, in this entire meeting have you said thank you? You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October,

offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country. Please, you're saying that if you will speak very loudly about the war you can... He's not speaking loudly. He's not speaking loudly. Your country is in big trouble. Can I answer? No, no. You've done a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble.

I know. I know. You're not winning. You're not winning this. You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us. Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of the war. We've been alone. And we are thankful. I said thanks in this cabinet. You haven't are thankful. I said thanks in this cabinet. You haven't been alone. We gave you, through this stupid president, $350 billion.

You wanted for your breath. We gave you military equipment, and your men are brave, but they had to use our military. What about the rest of you? If you didn't have our military equipment, if you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks.

In three days. I heard it from Putin in three days. Yeah, yeah, I think that's quite enough. I think we get it. This is politics now. Paul Olszewski has been fighting this war for God knows how long. To be humiliated like that by Donald Trump, who by the way, his, this is the closest that Donald Trump has come to war. As a draft dodger, Trump never knew the horrors of war, but in 1997 he laughed when telling radio host Howard Stern that avoiding sexually transmitted diseases was like his personal Vietnam. It's a dangerous world out there. It's scary. Sort of like the Vietnam era, Trump said to Stern discussing his life. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.

Yes, he does. You do know that he does though. He does walk into a room like a great and brave soldier, a delusional one. But yes, that's very much the energy I get from him. Oh, you think he's done and then he comes out with another Humdinger and it's like, this is never going to end. This is never going to end. No, we have hope and we and I have to say at the Oscars, I did feel this slight rebellion through art energy. Last year was very like Oppenheimer is the winner.

Let's go sweeping the ball kind of Oscars. This was like all these different independent films winning and it felt like the Oscars were on side with all these people from the industry coming up and trying to speak the truth about what it feels like to live in America right now and to make art in response to that. There's a responsibility to talk about what's happening in the world and it's why I don't like watching things like the Brits because nobody's talking about anything and that's our role in society is to talk about the things that are difficult. No the Brits were sanitized and scared but the Oscars it was like oh they might be brave people making this. It was really surprising it was good not to mention Fantastic Art Direction that's how you build a set Brit Award creative team look to the Oscars I'm sure the budgets

are there's some disparity sure the budgets are, there's some disparity in the budgets, but we can make something better work. I don't know. As I said, I didn't see it, but I did saw a clip of Cynthia and Ariana singing Defying Gravity, which I enjoyed. And what else did I see? I saw Mikey Madison's acceptance speech. It was very sweet. Yeah. A little bit meh. A little bit meh. I was like, come on, Mikey, this is your night. I'm like, come on, cry. Cry. And also, no one cares about the list of people.

You have to do your list. Obviously, I've thought about this. No, you don't. You do. You have to do your list. Like, obviously I've thought about this. No, you don't. You do. You have to do your list. No, you don't. You can say, you can go up to them afterwards at the after party and be like, thank you so much. Like it's a broadcast. Like say something funny or like, I don't know. It's a lot of pressure of speech and acceptance speech. Oh, I know. I don't, I know it.

I've never won anything. We know we've talked about how you often sweep the board. I was going to say sometimes we're a bit, a bit fuddled and had a bit of a, you know, hazy, except for the speech. A little gun thing. But I don't, I think one of the greatest speeches of Oscars was probably Cuba Gooding Jr. wasn't it? It rose, it had a narrative of like, you know, he hadn't worked in 10 years and he came back and he won for Jerry McGuire and in the end he's jumping up and down. It's a hard thing to do a good Oscar speech, I think. I don't know who did it particularly well this year, but come on, Mikey. Oh yeah, Zoe Saldana was like, I'm gonna be back, I'm gonna be back. I was like, I knew she'd speak Spanish like, I'm gonna keep my money. That was I knew she'd speak Spanish.

I knew she'd go for it. Yeah, I knew she speaks Spanish. I said to me, I'm in 10 seconds. She'll say a bolita and she did. I know Zoe Saldana. That was, but that's deep for her. Two years ago, she couldn't get a job and she was thinking of quitting acting. And now like, come on, why wasn't she in like Avatar and shit?

Maybe it wasn't couldn't get a job. Maybe that was Demi Moore or something, but there was something she was like not enthralled by her career. You never know what's around the corner. Life can change on a dime. Oh my God. Can't it just, can't it just. Can't it just turn around and punch you in the face and call you Shelly sometimes?

Bloody hell. Shelly Anne. Bloody hell. Also Pamela Anderson and Demi Moore snubbed, right? call you Shelly sometimes. Bloody hell. Shelly Anne. Bloody hell. Yeah. Also, Pamela Anderson and Demi Moore snubbed, right? Both legends in the game. They are not going home with their Oscars this week. People said that Demi Moore looked pissed off.

I didn't see it, quite frankly. I was very surprised she didn't win. And it must have been, it must have not hurt. She did give a good clap to Mikey, but it must have been like, I've been in this game 40 years. This is kind of my moment. Yeah.

But then it isn't and you just move on. Yes, absolutely. But we would like to talk about Pamela Anderson on the other side of our break. I'd like to talk about the story of who she is, what she's been through and where she is today. Hi, I'm Namulanta Kombo, here to tell you that my podcast, Dear Daughter, is back.

And this time I'm joined by an all-star lineup of guests, each with some sage life advice and a letter for their daughter. Every mother has a letter in her head for their daughter. So it's really nice that that's being like expressed out loud. That's Dear Daughter Stars from the BBC World Service. Listen now by searching for Dear Daughter wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

Dear Daughter wherever you get your BBC podcasts. Dear Daughter. Pamela and Monica, have they ever been talked about in the same breath? I'm sure they have because as we well know, they are the, I suppose they share the title of they were the faces of public shame in the 90s basically yeah faces of public shame sexual shame faces of public sexual shame which of course has been going on for millennia but this time it had a brand new friend to help it out, call the internet. And when I watched the Pam and Tommy series, which I really liked, Lily James was so fantastic as Pamela Anderson. Did you ever see that?

I did, yeah. It was pretty good Sebastian Stan as Tommy. And you get the whole sordid tale of, you know, said sex tape scandal and what really went down. But what I really couldn't believe is like what Pamela went through afterwards within the deposition of trying to kind of get the rights back. Because it was all, can you imagine it was like the wild wild west. Like there's this video, it's everywhere, people are buying it. Like the fact that they try to even gain control over that at a time like that when things were so new and crazy.

She said, this is what she said about her treatment and the deposition, they would ask about my sex life and I kept on thinking, how am I getting questioned about my sexuality and my preferences and my body parts and where I like to make love when it's stolen property. Old men with crusty white stuff in the corners of their mouths would hold up pictures of me naked in Playboy and ask why I'd even care that the tape was out there. Because you're a

whore anyway. I think it's the general energy. So I can't imagine what that was like for her to go through when the law is telling you that it's something you have to and yet it feels like such a lawless thing to have to experience. Just misogyny, isn't it? It's just the worst. So sick of it. And what about Monica? She's Monica Lewinsky is back in the world. She's got a podcast, Lil.

Has she now? Oh yeah, she's got a podcast. Do you know, did I ever tell you this? I was in a COVID like group with Monica Lewinsky, Alain de Botton. I think Mariella Frostrup was in it actually. Me. I cried in one of them and everyone was like, it's okay, it's okay. What was the general theme?

It was like, you know, brilliant minds going together in COVID. No, it was like, I think it was like every other night or something for a little while, but there was maybe like Rose Grey, I can't remember, just like, you know, lots of, it was very like, I did not feel like I belonged on that group chat. Oh, come on, you love a big power circle. I'm sure you were. I know I love it. But like, I'm like

why have they let me in? Why have they let me in? How come I'm allowed here? Yeah to cry. Oh talk about insight. Talk about inside BTS goss because I know that's what people want from a podcast. What was Monica Lewinsky like on a group chat? What was her energy? She quite dominating. She was actually pretty quiet. I mean, when she had something to say, she'd pipe up for sure. But you know, you're asking the wrong person because you'd need somebody with an actual memory to be able to recall what she said. But I just thought she was really nice. I liked her and I liked her story. Yeah, Monica has said, Monica Lewinsky has said, I was patient zero, the first person

to have their reputation completely destroyed worldwide via the internet. I was the second. Come on, third. Come on. Actually, you are a little bit, you are a little bit in this groupie gang hang, I have to say, generationally wise, they somewhat pass the baton to you to take on this horrendous punishment and role in life. Punching bag. Yes. Here you go Lily, your turn. Let me take it. I'm going to run with it. To be completely honest, the fact that we are still talking about the fact that this hasn't changed and it's exactly the way women are treated in media still is just depressing. And also it's about to get worse. Like I think with this, you know, the sort of rise in, you know, what we saw in the Oval Office with Zelensky is like, there's just this like air of bullying

that's going on and being normalized and, you know, Andrew Tate being flown into America by Donald Trump and, you know, the rise of the trad wife and there's pushback from the manosphere. They're mad. They want their wives. They want their washing done. So should we build our commune then and just go live there and not deal with these dickheads anymore? Yeah, where would we build our commune? Buy a bit of land in the country?

I was going to say, you know me, I like the English countryside. I just do it in the Lake District I was gonna say you know me I like the English countryside I just I just do it in like the Lake District okay I wouldn't need to go to China or anything I don't want to like live in a tent no no no like Shepard's Hut maybe I could do maybe well we could build what's it called like a hamlet we could have a hamlet which I think is like a few houses in one place I know this it's like the one thing I learned in geography for God's sake what's Hamlet, which I think is like a few houses in one place. I know this. It's like the one thing I learned in geography for God's sake. What's smaller than a Hamlet?

A village is not. A village is not. It goes Hamlet Village. I don't think Hamlet's the smallest. Town, city. Oh, can we do some more geography stuff on this and bitch? I really like geography, but as you can see, I'm not that good at it.

What's before a hamlet? What is smaller than a hamlet? Maybe nothing, maybe that's just a single dwelling. A sub hamlet. Really? I thought there was something else with a funny, even funnier word than hamlet. Hamlet, I live in a hamlet.

I'd love to, I'd love to live in a hamlet. I'm sure we've got some Miss Me listeners that live in hamlets. It's very Bill Bow Baggins, isn't it? Hamlet. Yeah. That's what I mean. Let's go feral. Let's go lion witch in the wardrobe. I don't know. Let's just go live in fairy land because I can't actually do this anymore. I'd rather just go hang out with like, I don't know, we pick 10 of the girls that we love. We're having no men in our hamlet.

Well, I want to breed and then bring my kids to the hamlet. And then we bring your existing kids. And then maybe some of the old elders. Who are the elders? Our parents? No, yeah, maybe. Yeah, they can cook. Yeah, cud can cook. Yeah. But I think there is, we're talking about alternative

ways of living. And I don't see this as any crazier than getting married and living with a man for the rest of my life. You know what I'm saying? We'd need Wi-Fi to be able to do our podcast. Don't worry, I'll get you Wi-Fi. I don't know, because I would kind of feel like if we're going to build a hamlet and be like in this communal living, why don't we actually like interact with each other, which would mean no Wi-Fi. I'm thinking that the hamlets are off to miss me. I'm not doing miss me in the commune.

Maybe we just have like, we have like a little shepherd's hut that's like off yonder. And you know, once a week, me and you, sorry twice a week, me and you trundle off to the end of the field and go and record Miss Me in our shepherd's hut. And we're like 65 like we shouldn't go record Miss Me. And by the way the rest of the world is obliterated at this point, it doesn't even exist. So we're not broadcasting to anyone except for ourselves. It's just us in a shepherd's hut pretending that people are listening to Miss Me. But before that, before things get like that, we're going live. Oh my god.

Oh, we're going live tonight actually in like a couple of hours. In a couple of hours we will be taking to the stage at the Hackney Empire and I may or may not have a nervous breakdown and have to just hand over to an audience member. So there we go. I think we'll be all right. I think we'll be all right. At Sunday dinner at my mom's little girls. What if we're really shit? What if it's all terrible? You know how to be on a stage and so do I. We're total show-offs. We know what we're doing. Everything's going to be fine. I have been shit on a stage before. I will just say that. Me too. Come on, it's gonna be great. Think about some of the stupid shit we're doing. It's gonna be fine. It's so exciting.

It's just so exciting. We've got to keep all our creative ideas. I've just cussed out all these award shows for the last few weeks for their like creative vision so this better look good. Well it's not an award show unless you've got a secret award you want to give me. Nope it's not an award show but our creative vision will be displayed across it so anyone that's coming to miss me live I can't wait to see you all. Actually when I was up down the market with my mum on Sunday got a few people come up and go I'm coming to miss me live I was like my market with my mum on Sunday, a few people come up and go, I'm coming to Miss Me Live. I was like, my God, I feel like Robbie Williams. Shall we give them a dress code?

No. No. I think come one, come free, come all, it's a safe space of happiness, truth and joy. Come clapping. Come clapping. Come clapping. Come ready to laugh your arses off at anything we say. That'd be really helpful.

I've got one joke. I've got one joke. I've got one joke, which I ran last night. I think I've said that joke on Miss Me, but maybe they cut it out. No, I don't think you have. Just in case we get really stuck and Dino goes, what about a gag? We have a joke. Just one joke. So if things really go badly, you'll know, because it's when we tell that joke.

You'll be like, oh, God, they're lost. Also, it's not when we tell it, it's when I tell it, it's my joke. I don't like jokes, so you can fucking tell it. I hate jokes. I hate gags, I hate jokes, I hate comedy. So this is gonna be really fun. It's gonna be really fun.

I like sarcasm, wit, and language, okay. That's what Miss Me Live will be. So we'll see you all there for that. So we should probably go like, I don't know, pray and sing some gospel. Meditate. We should definitely do a bit of meditating before the show. We've never done joint meditation. We have not. I mean, this is kind of a joint meditation that we do. More like couples therapy. Well, we will see you on Monday for Listen Bitch, where we are talking phone etiquette, phone etiquette.

And also this is about texting and the way you text and where you text, not just like, do you speak too loudly on the tube? I've been thinking about it quite a lot. It can be all sorts of things. You can take it wherever you want to take it. All sorts of rude phone things. They're everywhere. There's lots of different ways to misuse them. Should we call it a day and go and get ready for our live show? Let's go to Hackney! Wait!

I'm a lot closer than you. I'm just going to walk, I think. I think I'll walk to Miss Me Live. Is that weird? No. Well, what do you want, Muggs? Should I send you a horse and carriage? Jesus Christ. Should I go down the narrow way? Don't worry, babes, I'm on it.

I've got you a horse and cart. It's gonna pick you up. Take me to my live podcast show. No, we will see you tonight, Lil. Let's go. Let's go get ready for Miss Me Live. I'll see you in Hackney. See you in Hackers. Thanks for listening to Miss Me with Lily Allen and Makeda Oliver. This is a Persephoneca production for BBC Sounds.

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