Miss Me? - Serving the Tea and Telling the Truth

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver discuss songwriting, online hate and Wimbledon.This episode contains very strong language and adult themes. Credits: Producer: Flossie Barratt Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Assistant Producer: Miriam Hall Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

BBC Sounds music radio podcasts This episode of Miss Me contains some very strong language and some adult themes And talking about tennis, are we too early? I don't think so Ooh! Ooh! Someone's got a new hairdo! Yes she went back to black. I'm so pleased. I know you love it when I go black. I don't know why, but it's just like exotic, sexy, young, bit dangerous. I feel it ages me somewhat, but you know what?

I'm embracing my age, so that's fine. Is it for Hedda? Yes. Okay. Yes, she's obviously Scandinavian place. Obviously the Scandinavians tend to be leaning more towards the blondes and the reds, but you know, she's, she's dark. She's a dark bitch.

That's right. She needs the hair to act accordingly. Got it. It is. I will actually just say that it is been rewritten and this setting and it is a reimagining of an old Scandinavian play. By the way, to anyone listening that doesn't know what's going on and what we're talking about,

I'm doing a play. Doesn't know Chekov. It's not Chekov, it's Ibsen. Holy shit, no, that's annoying, because I did know that. Yeah, we're not editing that out. We're not editing that out. Fuck.

Ibsen. Henrik Ibsen. It is a play that I'm doing in, I'm rehearsing it in London and we'll be playing it in Bath at the Yusuf studio from July, I believe. It's two runs, isn't it? It's not, it's a short run.

It's just five weeks from the end of July until end of August. Yeah. This must feel like a piece of piss after the last play that was such an arduous role and so it's such a long run. I wonder if it will. Might be. It's not gonna be so much for me to do in Bath, you know?

It's not like just strolling out onto St. Martin's Lane and having, you know, London's best restaurants to choose from, to go and hang out in straight after the show. There probably won't be paparazzi. I probably won't be doing a fashion show after every show. Yeah, this is gonna be quite a different energy. What are you going to do in Bath for five weeks? Probably meditate and walk.

I'll do lots of exercises and, you know, be more at one with the countryside. I imagine I'll probably learn quite a lot about you like this, the history of bath. Yes, I would get into the history of bath. Also, don't they have incredible old steam rooms and stuff? They have baths, the spas, which I've actually already booked a day at one for when I get down there. You know, just obviously bored in bed one night thinking, what am I going to do in bath? I'll book myself a spa day.

It's Roman spas, isn't it? I believe so. I'm not going to let you quote me on that because I haven't checked it out, but I think so. And what else? This is my penultimate record from New York for the summer. I am gonna do next week's and then that's it. I'm back until September. Whoa, I didn't even think about it like that.

Yeah. Right. What the fuck are we gonna do? We actually have like a whole summer together in London town. Yeah, I'm gonna be, I don't know how peppy I'm going to feel because I'm going to be recording stuff like at the end of my rehearsing days. Yes, so let's be clear here, you'll be doing Miss Me as well as Hedda. Yeah.

Which is quite the double whammy, Ibsen and Miss Me. I don't know, what's going on in your world? Oh God, don't even make me start. Well, I'll keep it peppy and I'll keep it quick. Had a massive fight with my mother. I haven't, Lily knows obviously, I called her straight away, I text her. I haven't said that my mom has actually had a knee operation.

So to add to the like, house of misfits and the elderly, adds to the like house of, you know, misfits and the elderly. We now have mom on crutches with a new robotic knee that's been inserted into her knee. What else is? Where said previous knee was. Okay. But guess what?

She's still a chef. So even though she's on crutches, I can't be like, do you want me to grab you something? I'll get, I'll make a bit of, I can't say, do you want some chunky vegetable soup? She's like, no, no. She wants homemade broths. She wants poached chicken and roast chicken,

sliced avocado. She's so particular, Lilly. That hasn't gone, so I'm just her fucking maid on top of everything. I'm caring for my nan, obviously. And the house is just, yeah, it's the house of healing. It's the house of healing. And I serve them all daily.

And last week, my service wasn't up to scratch and we ended up having a big fight. Oh, really? What was wrong with your service? No, do you want me to tell the truth? That I, there was some- Yeah, I do. I you want me to sell the drink? There was some... Yeah, I do. I do want you to tell the truth. I tell the truth. Do it. Balls out. Just tell us what's going on in the world of Makita.

I was criticised quite a lot on Instagram last week about the show. This show? Yes. Some people were having a discussion about how stupid I am and how uninformed I am. And like, oh, what's she whang me on about now? And it was the day where I was doing research for Miss Me. I just couldn't do it. I just every... Hang on. I haven't seen any I mean I haven't been on Instagram So that makes sense as to why I wouldn't have seen it But where was it like in the comments on our on our videos? Yep

Yeah, I'm sorry about that. Can I just please just chime in? Makita does do quite a lot of research for our shows. She worked very, very hard and you know, neither of us are educated and we, you know, work with what we have. So fuck you all and we're trying our best. And if you've got time to sag her off in the comments on Instagram, what does that say about your life, quite frankly?

Thanks, Lil. It actually made me think about that early episode that we did where you talked about the fact that people were like, well, if we're gonna let these two women have a podcast, they better be able to back up every idea and opinion they have. And I suddenly did feel like that.

I felt like Makita who didn't go to school with big gaping holes in my knowledge. And I suddenly just lost all confidence. I basically felt like I couldn't do my job and I've never felt like that. I've been called fat and ugly a lot. Just pretend you are a middle-aged white man. Have that confidence around spouting your knowledge.

And that sense of entitlement. Yeah. And, and, and it's fine because like literally elections have been won on such little knowledge. In fact, they are, you know, there are certain political parties, which are making quite a lot of headway at the moment based on, you know, not a lot of fact, not a lot of research and just confidence. So that's, um, let's embrace the middle-aged white man in all of us

and just get on with the show. Yes, well my father is one so I'll just embrace that side of myself. There you go. And he's a fucking smart man. But my mom is, she's vulnerable, Lil. So she didn't react very well to my stress and was just like, you need to grow thicker skin and get a fucking grip. I just couldn't take it anymore. We had a massive fight and I checked myself into a hotel in Essex for two nights on my own, which was a very strange experience.

I really enjoyed it and it was really nice. There was a big wedding going on, which I, is this a weird thing to do? I sat behind, I was like lying in the grounds in the sun because we had such good sun over last weekend and so nice, just silence, no people, no talking to anyone. And then I realized the wedding was happening because Michael Buble started playing. I was like, oh my God, this fucking wedding is happening. And I was behind like the gazebo and I just, no one could see me. So I sort of lay and listened to their whole wedding to some stranger's wedding.

I don't think that's weird. That's quite nice. What did it make you think? Did you think I want to get married one day? Yeah, it did. I think it's time we delved into the relationship status of Makita Oliver and what is, what is going on. Oh God, can we not add that on top of all of this? We'll save that for another one. Is it too much? It's too much for this week. Yeah. Okay, but we will revisit it because I feel like there are questions and they need to be answered.

And then I had to have a fucking conversation with my mortgage guy, well, my wonderful mortgage broker. Yes, yes, David. Love that guy. Very inventive, creative man. But then legally, you have to have a conversation with like the life insurance policy guy. Oh, and that was a tricky conversation to have because obviously you have to talk about things like critical illness, sudden death. And I was was like I actually really don't need to talk about that this week. I'm having quite a hard week. I don't really want to think about like my untimely death but it's a requirement and I need to keep this mortgage thing moving so I can move home of my own. And I, sorry, one sec. Shut the doors, please. I mean, how long do you think you could live with Alison for?

I've done three months back at home. Oh, wow. Well, I mean, her and Erin were here for 10 days a couple of weeks ago. That was nice. I find it easier to have her around when Erin is with her. Yes, Garfield's been away. That might be the problem.

A bit of male energy takes the edge off all the female energy you see. But could I move back? Oh my God. No, just no. Thank you. Thank you for understanding my energy. And I am done.

Three months, okay? Three long months. So to then talk about my possible untimely death was quite a lot. But it was interesting. I wondered why I felt so freaked out by the conversation. I think if you're talking about your own death, not in a sort of metaphysical, spiritual, magical way, and it's just a very pragmatic, practical,

I will die and I have to give my money to someone. It wasn't about like, you know what? I'm bang on about. You're giving it to me. You want my 50 quid? Yeah. You should give it to Marnie because she's your goddaughter. I would love to I would love to bestow gifts of any kind. She's very good with money. So we had a money conversation the other night. I was

lying in bed with her and we were talking about our financial situation. My god, why are you with Marnie good? She kind of rolled over and she said, we really should invest in stocks. And I was like, sorry, what? And she was like, I've been reading this book, actually, it's quite interesting. There was a guy who invested $50,000 into stocks when he was 20. And he ended up making like $6 million, you into stocks when he was 20 and he ended up making like $6 million when he was a certain age. Then there was another guy that invested the same amount of money when he was 25 and he made like half the amount of money. So it's really important to get on it early, Mum. And I was like,

Jesus, money's going to save us all. I love that kind of thinking though I've never done anything like that have you ever invested in anything? Uh no I've invested in failing businesses but not um I haven't really done stocks and shares but it's something that I'm looking at now. Poof stocks and shares you know. Just to be clear, I am not giving any financial advice, nor is my 12 year old daughter. And if you do want financial advice, I suggest you look for someone a little older and more experienced in this realm.

Yeah. But I thought maybe it could be quite a fun thing to do with Marnie. Maybe we could do it together because she seems to have an interest. Yeah, but don't you remember when you said you think she'll be an agent? This is quite that side of Marnie. Suddenly I'm seeing her with her bob again and her sharp cat eyeglasses and her books making notes about the stock exchange.

I feel like this is a really good side of her. She's always reading and I'm never... She reads so fast and she goes through books and she reads like, you know, four books at a time, Marnie. So she's like sort of flitting. But I was like, when, how did I miss this book on the stock market that you were reading, age 12? Like what is going on?

Also, are you my child? Cause I don't understand, but great. At least, you know, she can help. No, it must be the internet, reading on the internet right? No she said it was a book that one of her friends had read and the friend lent it to another friend and then that friend lent it to her so there's like three of them that are all like stocks stocks and shares. Let's get into it. Good lead the way please.

I mean I guess maybe that's being in New York as well. You know, New York is a very moneyed city. Maybe they, you know, it's something that they feel like, you know, they live near Wall Street. It's the money center of the world. Like, this is the time, Lily. I don't want to freak you out, but at 40, you could be halfway through one's, one could be halfway through one's life. Please don't do that. And I'm like, hmm, so when am I actually going to be rich?

Because I always, because I need to do it quite soon. And this conversation with the life insurance policy guy, like he talked, he was talking about the fact that like 28 years is the length of my mortgage. And I was like, right, how old will I be then? And all this stuff and just thinking about like how short a life can be and how quickly 25 and 28 years sounds like now. And I just, I decided I want to live. I just want to think about living. And then I saw Jarvis Cocker come back with Pulp on this like Radio 2 special.

And I was like, he looks like he is not worried about dying anytime soon. Like, excuse me. He looks like he is living. And also Lauren Hill I saw turning 50 somewhere and I think Jarvis Corker 60. And I was like, actually, I need to just let this fucking go and realize that like life is for living just as Jarvis is showing us with his massive pulp comeback. I'm going to send you this book actually that I've been reading. I told you I'd started a different sort of fellowship recently to do with money. And there is a book that was recommended to me by someone called Success is an Inside Job.

And I started reading it. It's all about sort of fear of success. It's really good, really interesting. It's really like shifted my perspective on a lot of success. It's really good, really interesting. It's really like shifting my perspective on a lot of things. Yeah, because you and I usually see success quite differently. Yeah, it's not really even about success. It's more about just a relationship with yourself and, you know, brutal honesty and, you know, confronting your fears and approaching things from a slightly different approaching things from a slightly different viewpoint where you do still set goals,

but you don't anticipate the things that may or may not go wrong in quite the same way. You embrace them rather than fear them and try and control them. And so I'm gonna send it to you. I think you'll find it really helpful. Send it over to me and while I'm waiting for it, let's talk about the new metrosexual dude on the scene,

the new modern man, what he looks like today and what he could bring to the modern world. I think when we were talking last week about male role models, I think we gave a few. I think I just said David Mitchell. And now I've done a bit more research on the subject, and there's some shining beacons of hope as inspirations for all of us. Actually, I would put Jarvis in this category as well.

He really made me excited about living again when I saw this Radio 2 special the other day. And there's something about this kind of resurgence, not even resurgence, some of the men that I've been looking at, like Coleman Domingo and Pedro Pascal, these are men in their 50s who are having these huge moments in their careers. Now, this isn't like a resurgence

of something that happened previously. This is all happening right now for them at like 54. Can you imagine actually having your big break at 51? Even 51, Coleman Domingo's career looked very different. Do you like either of these actors? I love them both dearly. Yeah, I do.

I do like them. I can't help but draw sort of comparisons to women that have had come into their moment in their 50s. Probably quite a few less examples of that, but maybe Hannah Waddingham. I think there are people like Julie Ann Moore, because I started watching a bit of that sirens thing, God awful, couldn't even finish episode one,

Jesus Christ, but I love her. I wouldn't say she's having her moment though. I think her moment was hard. And now she's carrying on, which is great because there was a point in time where you could only have your moment and then it was over. But yeah. My point exactly, my point is that I see women

that are being allowed to continue rather than not having had a career and then suddenly be, or having quite a low key career and then suddenly blowing up in your 50s. I don't have many examples of that in my mind. In my opinion, I can't really think of many. Oh, what about, what about, Jean Smart, Jean Smart from Hacks.

Oh yes. She's having her moment. But that lady's been around for a while. Yeah, but this is her big thing. This is her moment. And arguably you could say Parker Posey as well from the White Lotus. White Lotus, but I loved her since days to confuse though.

I know, but she was quite sort of like indie girl, you know? She was never like mainstream and now she's mainstream. So that's an example. Maybe everything is all right. Maybe things are evening out. No, but I wanna talk about Coleman because he was a theatre actor and then he did bit parts on television. I think his break was sort of euphoria.

And then he does The Color Purple and then is Oscar nominated for playing Bayard Rustin, the civil rights leader, the gay civil rights leader. Fantastic film. And now suddenly it's like kid in a candy shop. Like you can feel that he can do whatever he wants now and make any move next. And I love seeing people with that freedom in their creativity and just freedom in their,

in their next choices. It's exciting to me. And I read this interview with him in the New Yorker and even four years ago, he wasn't in this position of power. Look, look what can happen to a career in four years. Does it make you think about the power you want in your career at any point? Yeah, it does actually. I mean, I've been thinking, especially since I've been reading this book, like I've, and especially in the last year, you know, I've had my ups and downs and I have been catastrophizing somewhat about my future and what it looks like. I don't really think that there's a need to.

Actually, on paper, when I look at all of the different projects that I've got coming up, the different projects that I've got coming up, the things that are bubbling away in my brain. I am excited. But I think that like, I've always had this mindset of like, I've just got to do this and this project will sort everything out. Whereas now I'm not really thinking about it in that way. I'm thinking about how I want to spend my life.

Yes. And what I want to do with my life. How I want to spend my days and what kind of creative endeavors I can get involved in. And I think that, you know, it's always been, for me, it's always been about like, work hard, work hard, put everything into this one thing and then see what happens and react to the what happens.

Whereas now I just feel like not to put, emotionally put everything into that one basket, just to be like, this is one of many projects to come. And just to have the confidence that like more things will come after that. Like I have got, you know got musicals in me to write. I have got more albums to put out. I've got more plays to do,

hopefully some parts in TV shows or films. I have got more songs to write for other people if that's what I decide. If I decide I want to go and spend a month in LA doing writing camp. Yeah, that sounds like a truly creative life, Lil. There's endless opportunities and I am feeling positive about them. Whereas I think, you know, a year or so ago I would be, and maybe it's because I had set up my life in a way

where I was here in New York to be a present parent for my kids during the school time. And so everything that I had to do work wise would have to be in the summer holidays, in the winter. So it was always like, choose the right thing, because that's the only thing that you're going to get to do for the year. And if that doesn't go well, then it's a fucking disaster. And now I'm thinking, you know, they're getting older, they don't, obviously, they still need me, but they don't need me so much. I don't need to pick them up from school. I don't need to drop them off at school. They do all of that themselves.

And they can, you know, stomach it if I have to, you know, leave and go somewhere for a week and come back. So I'm not so I'm not so full of fear around it. And I am such fucking great news, because now you might have to look back on what you've done with a somewhat different, there's slightly more rose tinted glasses. Maybe. I know most people say you shouldn't look at the past with rose tinted glasses,

but I'd like to buy you a pair of rose tinted glasses to wear and look at your past work. Okay, but can they be meow meow? Yes, they can be mew-mew. Because I think it's like, when you said that about your songwriting a few months ago, episode 905, and you were saying that like, it was all a bit embarrassing

and a bit like an old diary entry. And I was like, it's so interesting that you would see it as a bit silly when you've written songs that have genuinely changed the cultural landscape. I don't know how you can like, I'm very like, I changed culture with PopWild. I'm happy to say that. But you don't seem to kind of, not even not say it, you don't even seem to align with it or even like see the truth in that. And how important the work you've already made in the world has been.

see the truth in that? I feel like how important the work you've already made in the world has been. I think I do now, but I think at the time, it was difficult for me to do that. And I still carry the trauma from that period of time. So it was, I remember I used to get asked in interviews, like by middle-aged white male journalists, would be like, so, you know, do you see really

see yourself as an artist? And it's like, well, I did write all of these songs for myself about my life. So yes, I would consider myself an artist. But actually, I wouldn't give that answer. I'd be like, I don't know. I mean, I just write, I just write pop songs. Do you know what I mean? You kind of had to like play along with the game because otherwise it would be like, you know, a snooty article about how I had a high opinion of my self-importance. But I do find it hard listening to that music. I'm not ashamed of it because I think it was good for what it was at the time. And actually, I think it just still stands up and, you know, it's having an actual resurgence on the internet, I know, because of my royalty statements. What they're going up? Yeah. Nice. Do they tell you like specifically what's going up? Like Smile did really well in Chile last year. Yeah exactly that. Oh my god. You can see by which

territory and everything. All that data. What age group people are listening. There's young kids that are into my music now. Yes, Lil. But saying that, I have lived 20 more years and have 20 more years of life experience. So the things that I was talking about then, I have a very different viewpoint on now and do not share the opinions of that 22 year old girl. And so it's a little little and I do draw this comparison

quite often when people ask me this question, which is like, you know, if you had to go back to the student union and hear yourself sitting around the table wanging on about the state of the world with your friends when you were 20, how long would you be able to sit and listen to that conversation without wanting to strangle yourself? And I Yeah, that's how I feel about it. I'm just like, oh my God, shut up, you're such a stupid child. But aren't you just raw and, well, you know, the kind of rawness that only comes with real fearless youth? Yes, but it's also bravado, right? And that's another thing that I can hear on it is that I know how crippled with anxiety

and how much I cared about what people thought, yet my whole shtick was like, I don't give a fuck. No, I don't know. I don't think the right word is yet, and I think the right word is and. Those things both lived in the same place. Like, yes, you were crippled with anxiety, but you also had bravado that, again, I think comes with youth and gives you the balls to take risks and give ourselves the opportunities that we gave ourselves.

Thank God for that innocent, impish, useful bravado. It got us really far. I miss her. Where the fuck is that brave bitch? I love her. And actually when I watched this round table thing that Chanel had done, I think it's called Wax Poets. Wax Poetics. And it was Nana, the lady from Little Dragon, Yimaki, and Solange, and then a French artist. And they were talking, let's play the clip. Will, can we play when Solange talked about listening to her early songwriting and how it made her feel.

I was 14 and I would go into the room with Pharrell and Timbaland and these giants and be like, I'm writing my own music. I have something to say. And I think sonicallyically I listen back to it and it's much more experimental and adventurous as I think it was packaged to be. There was some brave moments there.

Lyrically I also feel like as a teenager, you're writing from such a raw and honest place that I feel like lyrically, I still haven't upped a lot of things that I said. There's like poetry and everything I said in my little teenage emo mind. It's unfiltered in a way. I thought that was a really interesting way to look at it.

And also Solange is not talking about a seat at the table. She's talking about her first album which was very much not an album that came to define her in any way. It was you know she was very young when she made it and at the time she was very much in the shadow of like the glaring light of her sister who's called Beyonce if anyone doesn't know who her sister is, but her kind of reviewing her work from a grown-up place, but seeing the rawness and the bravery of her young self. I was like, I really want Lily to do that with Alright Still. I really do. Because I've checked the year, you said that, I thought it was this year, but it's actually next year, the 20th anniversary.

And by the time we get to the 20th anniversary, I want you to feel very proud of your work. I would like some very generous offers from venues to play a 20 year anniversary. To help me with your pride march. Help me feel proud, help me be proud of that. No one really helped. A healthy offer from Wembley.

That would help me look back with real pride. I mean, just one of our biggest fucking clips was you talking about whether you wanted to play a little, what would it be called? It's not a reunion tour. What's it called when you like- Anniversary tour. Anniversary tour, that's it. What anniversary is 20? Because you know you have like diamonds. 20 years. I don't know. Jamie Oliver and Jules Oliver just celebrated 25 years and that was their silver. China.

It's China. Wow. Lily Allen mug merch. I'll get you some like really beautiful china. I love china. Oh, you and alright still are having your 20 year anniversary. It's the longest relationship you've ever had, isn't it? You are one to talk. Fucking bitch. I'm so fucking lonely, but it's crazy that your music, it's your music that's your real love.

Can we actually play the clip of Nana talking about how music lives within her? I'm gonna get Lilly on this if it kills me today. I think so much of my courage has come through sound. You know? Yes. I guess leading into this conversation that we're gonna have, like how the language of music, you know, the subliminal or not subliminal, but the feelings that music and sound evokes that are like, you don't need, I mean, I feel like I, it's beyond language.

It is. It carries smell. It carries sight. Mmm. Mmm. What a conversation. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. How does it, where does music live within you, Lil? Because I know whether it be Keen or Vibes Cartel, music does do something to you and it always has. And it's been part of your courage. I mean, I think that people people people think of me as being like

outspoken and unfiltered. And I think that I can be that way when I'm discussing my thoughts on the world and what is going on. But when it comes to myself, and my emotions, and my sort of inner monologue, I have real hard time articulating that to people. Like, even, you know, when I think about the stuff that I've been going through in the last year, just like, you know, I've had some really, really tough times. And I, I have a real reluctance to pick up the phone to you to like, I mean, you know, what's been going on in my life, but I don't have like, you know,

hour long conversations about, you know, the hard things that I'm going to, I very much like, let myself stew over those things in my head. But music is the one place where I can let it all go. And I don't, I don't know how that happened or why that happened because I don't play instruments particularly well. It's not like I come home and I grab the guitar and I sit in my bedroom and strum it out. Yeah, you're not like a jammer. No, it's almost like therapy.

And I like to write and record at the same time with somebody else in the room. So there's something that's therapeutic about it. Like my producer or my co-writers that I'm writing with become almost like therapists because I'm processing the things that I'm going through in real time and then come out with something.

And that's kind of, to me, the measure of whether something is good or not is whether it like makes sense to me and feels not just honest because I think there's a difference between honesty and telling the truth. I think you can be honest without telling the truth. And so, you know, when I leave a studio and I want to get in the car and listen to music that I've written and I'm like, yeah, this is, this is me. This is me. This feels like me. And I can do that in music, oddly enough,

but I can't really do it when I'm talking to you or talking to my friends. That doesn't mean I'm being inauthentic when I'm with you, but it's just certain places that I don't feel like I can sum things up properly. But I can do it in a three and a half minute pop song. Yeah, it's the God given gift that you were given by God. And it's very nuanced. I think that there's something about the storyteller in you as well. When you think about all the first albums as well, it was more about you telling the stories. And I can't wait to see what you fucking write next. I cannot wait, because I know there is just bundles of truth

waiting to fall out of you. So drop out my pussy. Exactly. In whatever way it comes, we know something's coming and it's going to be serious. I just think you have a real clarity in your work and you talk from a space that people rarely speak from. You're talking about the truth, right?

And I hope it's what people get from Miss Me, but it's like, there is a version of the truth, but the actual truth always sounds different. It just, the truth just sounds different and that's why you've always stood out. So just fucking keep on that road. I'm just so excited for you. So excited for you.

Damn straight! Telling the truth, just telling the truth. Serving the tea and telling the truth. Serving the tea and telling the truth. That is the new album, Ser the tea and telling the truth. Also time for a break, okay? Time for a little wee bit of break. Yeah, let's break it. While we're in this position of power, I'd like to talk about Wimbledon. I really need someone to take me to Wimbledon. I haven't been invited this year.

Well, I think you probably will be now that you've just said that. So well done. And we all know that was the whole purpose of that. No, no, no. I'm not trying to be shameless. Sorry, I'm being shameless about this. This is my plea for someone to invite me to Wimbledon because there's all these people getting invited that don't even give a shit about tennis. And I would love to go, because it's coming up to that season.

Lily, I actually would love to go together. I don't know if I'm going to be around, babe, because I've got rehearsals. I start rehearsals on the 16th and I'm working at, you know, five days, sometimes six days a week until I start the play. If we could find tickets on a Saturday, then yes, I'll go with you. Stick it in the plea.

I always really like the pictures of celebrities at Wimbledon because there's quite often, you know, everyone was always looking at their phone and the people, but you can see the people behind looking over their shoulders at what people are looking at on their phone. It really makes me laugh. Because they're famous and they're like, oh, what's your screen saver? Yeah, what are you doing? What are you Googling? Oh, yourself. You're Googling. Timothy Chalamet Wimbledon. Pictures coming through from Getty Images in Lifetime. Oh, I hope he comes. I also think people get quite hot and heavy at Wimbledon, don't they?

I remember there were these pictures of Jude Law and Sienna when they were first, first like hot as fuck couple. And she was, I don't think she was sucking his fingers, but there was that energy. She wasn't doing a Mckita Oliver 2004. I wasn't doing a complete Mckita Oliver, but they were just so loved up and I

was like yeah I get it I love watching sport with a boyfriend it's hot especially I would like to do that with a man one day do Wimbledon but for this year I'll just take you you're my date. Babe why don't you get a man and take him to Wimbledon? I'd have to really fancy him to take him to something like Wimbledon and I haven't seen anyone I fancy that much. I'll tell you what I will find us tickets to Wimbledon if you let us keep in the thing of you saying check off when it was Ibsen. Fine, deal Z. Deal.

All right, that's it then, fucking hell. Say it. We'll see you for Listen Bitch and in more hacks related content. It is life hacks. It is life hacks. But is there another word for life hack? Isn't it just like, it's like, uh, time-saving, convenient rituals. That's it. It's actually time-saving, convenient rituals, which we are calling life hacks for listen, bitch. Can't wait.

I've got so many pearls of wisdom to share with the world. I got stuff from my mom, my nan, my life, Google. I told you to my mum, my nan, my life, Google. I told you to do some life hacks research, did you do it? None. No. No, I didn't. Great. We'll see you then. I'll have all the answers and Lily will have none. Classic miss me. No. No, that's just not true at all. You ran today's show.

Thank you. That was a Lily Allen comeback show. Okay. Bye everyone. Bye. Okay. Bye. Bye everyone.

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