Miss Me? - Slighty but Mighty

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver discuss height filters on dating apps, egg-freezing and the change in abortion laws.This episode contains very strong language, adult themes and discussions about abortion. If you have been affected by any of the issues raised, you can find support via the BBC Action Line: https://bbc.co.uk/actionline/Credits:Producer: Flossie Barratt Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Assistant Producer: Caillin McDaid Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

BBC Sounds music radio podcasts. This episode of Miss Me contains very strong language, adult themes and discussions about abortion. Lily is worried that the way she's sitting is a bit mum's net. What would you say? No, no, no, no, no. I didn't say the way I'm sitting is mum's net. I said that this top is a bit mum's.

I said, is it mumsy? And then I said, is it a bit mum's net? Don't be ridiculous. You're the coolest bitch in London right now. Oh, stop it. Stop it. Am I still allowed to hang out with you? Oh stop it! Stop it! Am I still allowed to hang out with you?

I feel like I'm being replaced by a lot of cool bitches and I can't keep up. No, on a real, I was going to come out with you on Saturday to the extraordinary Dua Lipa Wembley Stadium. Good for her. Two nights at Wembley Stadium. I know, by the way, in just just 10 years she was saying in her show that she was... it's all happened in 10 years and also a friend of mine, it's also a big Dua Lipa fan was like I posted it. What is that noise? That's my hot tap. My tea is being moved. Oh, it's the hot tap, the famous hot tap. I love that fucker.

I miss that tap. I know. This friend of mine that is a fan of hers said I saw Dua Lipa 10 years ago today. Maybe not today, maybe like just this year. Playing in a pub. Wow. And now she's at Wembley Bloody Stadium.

It is a great story. When I read the Vogue interview, I was like, this is a story in half, especially if you bring in the whole childhood and coming to London at like 15 to live with a mate and become a singer. Like, wow, dreams do come true. They really do. So I'm happy that you went, but we had had such a fucking week of it last week,

running around London, working, socializing, line biking, all of the above. And I just, I couldn't bear to talk to anyone on that night. So I'm happy you went with your new friends. My new friends. How was it? It was good. It was good.

I mean, it was funny, because I don't really consider myself a concert goer, but I have been to a lot of concerts recently. I think maybe it might have something to do with the fact that I have children that are of a certain age, but also neither of them came with me on Saturday, so that's no excuse, but I did enjoy it. And then I went to the after party.

I was like literally the second person to arrive. It was really uncool. Embarrassing, really embarrassing. I know, well, I got there and I was like, where is everyone? And they were like, no one's here yet. And I was like, oh, okay. So I went downstairs,

cause it was one of those places that has like a club and then downstairs there was a restaurant. So I went downstairs and ate a was one of those places that has like a club and then downstairs there was a restaurant. So I went downstairs and ate a burger. It's nice that it's in West London, that place. Like I love being that high up in West London. Can I say how good you're looking? What do you mean? I mean the looks.

The outfits. Lily's outfits are really impeccable at the moment. I'm enjoying them very much. Like I'm excited to see what you wear every day. I love when it's like that. You're in that beautiful dress at the Vogue dinner and then you look banging at Dua Lipa. I was like, come on, Lil. Like looks and a halfie. What did I wear at Dua Lipa? Oh yeah. Put my little, yeah, yeah. And then, oh yeah, wait, last cultural thing we did. I then went to Tyrone's exhibition

in South London. Yes, you did that. You did that. I was tired so I didn't come. No, you didn't come to that one. That would have been a really good one as well though. I was bummed you didn't come to that because it was very family but very- I had quite a good outfit for that as well that I wore to rehearsals. Let me tell you, I am exhausted by my rehearsals. I know. We should talk about the fact that you're doing Miss Me within rehearsing for this play. There's a lot going on in this character's life, day.

I mean, it's only over 48 hours. Oh, Hedda? Yeah, it's fucking insane. My brain's fried by it. Well, it's not a light play, is it? She sort of has an emotional breakdown. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot.

It's weird, because you've never seen better. So I think it must be doing something for you, getting into it. I don't know if like I'm, if everything else that I'm doing at the moment, like keeping myself busy is like avoidance of what it is that I'm having to deal with. Hmm.

Or maybe balancing it. Like, no, not this just humongous task, like daunting role. That's not happening. I'm just out. And also, guess what I'm doing tomorrow? You might be cross with me. What? Little drive down the motorway to a big festival. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, my God. So it's official. Because at the dinner, we're with our lovely friend Adjua, who we've known forever, and she's going down to Glastonbury, as is everyone in the world. And then suddenly I heard Lily next to me saying weird things about going

with her and joining her for this adventure. I didn't know that you were really going to do this. Okay. All right. I didn't plan to, but then you know what, I went to that other festival to see Charlie XCX and I was like, drinking non-alcoholic beers and I thought, actually, I can do this. And also, there's nothing stopping me from, you know, I could get down there and be like, this is too much and then just leave. Yeah, it's only Somerset. It's all right. I know, according to Google Maps, it would only take me seven hours and 43 minutes to

walk home, so, you know, I'm joking. It will take ages. I feel like I've got one foot in the land of Glastonbury because obviously everyone's gone down from my family to start the build. And last weekend, all the boys and everyone that goes down can't come between the hours of like five in the afternoon to like three in the morning to drop off their shit for Garf to put in the big van to go to Glastonbury and all the alcohol and everything for Gorilla Bar. It's been like, I basically am not going to Glastonbury, but I've been working on the admin side of things, which is just unfair when I just don't want to have anything to do with it. So just go, Godspeed, just go with the rest of the country.

I love the rest of the country. There's not that many people going. London's different on Glastonbury weekend. It really is, it's kind of easy, bit empty. Did you know that Glastonbury becomes one of the highest populated cities in the southwest of England for that weekend? So you're gonna go? I'm gonna go. Report back.

And I'm going with my friend Carla. We're jumping in a car on Friday night, driving down after rehearsals. Obviously I've got a very serious job to do first. Cool. Baby, you can come too. I have space. I've got a prototype to make.

I have no interest. I'm going into the lounge. Okay. Cause I know how to have a good time. I'm very excited. That's my Glastonbury. But all of you, I wish you the best and I really hope you have a great time, but I'm okay. What I will say is careful with your Glastonbury posting.

What do you mean? It's actually a warning to everyone. Me and my friend Sean were talking about it yesterday. He was like, what I cannot bear is when people wait like a week and then they're like, had to just like take a breath and take a minute to like really like just like feel all the feels about what happened. It's like, you mean let your come down go and let some serotonin come back. Wait till you could see straight so you can edit your face.

It just gets a little bit churchy after Gastonby like, heaven on earth, the greatest place in the world, it's like, can we all relax, it's a fucking festival, it's okay. So just keep your posting a bit calm. I mean, I don't think I'm about to get gassed suddenly at the grand old age of 40 about being at Gastonby. Please don't. Nice to see my dad though. It's been a while. And I can finally see my father. It's been about a year. It's actually, yeah, that's the main point of going good to have a little family reunion. I

mean it is a family reunion. People always think I'm joking when I say that like you're more likely to get all of my family at Glastonbury than you are at Christmas. Just say all mine are down there, all yours, they will all become, they will build the festival, they will party that festival and then they will stay an extra week to take down that festival. Not me, I'll be in rehearsals Monday morning fresh as a daisy. That's right. I went to Sheffield this week. I'm not even

joking it just did not stop. What to go to Persephoneca? Yes I went to the production company that makes Miss Me is in Sheffield. That is not why I went there. It was just a lovely coincidence. Yeah, me and Autumn walked around and talked about the Industrial Revolution a lot. What did you have to say about that? Come on, tell me what you and Autumn were saying about the Industrial Revolution. You know, there's a lot of towns and cities around the country that were built, sorry, that were built around the Industrial Revolution.

And then when that changed, communities were completely broken down and things really, you know, it was a heartbreaking, upsetting time for a lot of communities around this country. And I was just very interested in that trajectory. You still with me? No. I was going to like rudely interrupt you, but then I was reminded of when I met Charlie XCX. Oh, good. Again, on Saturday, second weekend in a row, second Saturday night in a row that I've hung out with Charlie XCX.

And she said, the podcast is really good, Lilly. And I was like, thanks so much, Charlie. That's really sweet of you to say. She says, you are a bit mean to Makita sometimes. Oh my God. Oh my God. Charlie XCX sees me and my fame. I was like, what are you talking about?

She was like, you're a little bit mean. I was like, let me tell you about 1997. Okay. Of childhood, yeah. Let me take you back to 1998. I was like, it all comes from somewhere. She was a bitch. No, she was a bitch. No, she was a bitch.

I need to tell you why I was in Sheffield. This was for Sheffield Doc Fest, which is the documentary festival, the annual documentary festival. And I was there to talk about the George Floyd documentary that's on BBC at the moment, Backlash, which is absolutely amazing, but of course, intense and a very hard watch.

I had to watch it in two sittings just and had to have a week in between. It was like that. And I think just because, yeah, because of everything that we know, but I was very focused on doing a very good job for these people and Flossie came, Flossie from our Miss Me team, she came to watch

and I felt like I had my mom coming to watch my school assembly. I was like, I really need to do a good job. Show Flossie that I Miss Me team, she came to watch and I felt like I had my mom coming to watch my school assembly. I was like, I really need to do a good job. Show Flossie that I can do shit like this. And yes, I did a very good job. And I do encourage anyone to watch that documentary, including you, Lily Allen. I will, it's on the air player.

Yeah, it must be. It's on the air player. But the interesting story that is told alongside the horror and the terrorization of black people for millennia and of course the horrific murder of George Floyd is it's also a story about COVID and a story about that time. And they, you know, it's very, it's sort of in chapters of months throughout 2020 and 2021.

And I was like, whoa, I've blocked so much of this time out. I kind of forgot about so much. Did it happen in COVID then? Yeah. Well, it took the whole world to stop, to get people to be like, wait a second, racism. Think there might be violence against black people. Yeah.

That's something that came from this kind of confusing, terrifying time of COVID, is that we were all looking in the same place. So when this horrific murder took place, we were all looking at it and people couldn't hide. But you know, he does get sent to prison, the man that killed George Floyd. But to go back to the COVID times,

I remember I dated through COVID and it was a nightmare. Like you had to go to a pub and wear masks in the pub talking to each other like on a date. It's not sexy. It's not a vibe. It was like table service, but you couldn't stand up to the bar. Not according to the field, by the way. There's quite a lot of people that are into mask kinky. No, it wasn't kinky for me. I did not get kinky with that. I mean, the bubbles, I mean, the list goes on. COVID was a fucking weird time and really only the other day.

So it was a bit weird to see all that again. And Autumn reminded me that, what did she say? Cause you know, there's been an amendment to the abortion laws in England and Wales. And she reminded me that in COVID, people were prescribed abortion medicine to take at home, because of course, the hospitals were so busy, so many surgeries and procedures

that had to be put on hold or waitlisted. And I think that being able to take that medication at home was a great thing for so many women. Babe, I know someone that called me and was like, I have found out that I'm pregnant. I didn't realize for ages. Anyway, she'd gone to the NHS and they were like, we're completely oversubscribed, sorry, you gotta go somewhere else. And so she went to, I was like, don't worry, I've got a couple of obstetricians I'm sure can help you and I'll help you out financially. And the private people were

like, no, we can't because we've been being picketed. And she was too late term. Anyway, it went really, really late. It was absolutely devastating. Yeah, terrifying as well. Absolutely. Horrific. But I mean, thank God things were in place. I feel like the government were. No, they weren't, no, they weren't. And that's why she had to go, she had to, she found out when she was like 16 weeks and it took the government or it took the NHS

until she was like just about to be 24 weeks, that's nearly six months. Yeah. We should probably say that the current law in England and Wales is that abortion is allowed up to 24 weeks of pregnancy and beyond that in certain circumstances, like if a woman's life is in danger.

The new clause doesn't change any of that, but it just means that outside of that, women are no longer criminalized or pursued criminally for this act, which is so important because that has happened in some circumstances in the past. The new law is that it has now been decriminalized. Yes. Late term abortions, right?

It's a landmark decision for women's rights and it's the biggest change to the law since 1967 in the Abortion Act. I mean, it's quite interesting watching the laws change in this very positive way, in my opinion, for women in this country as America looks like it's sort of just on the quest to criminalize abortion as much as they possibly can yeah it feels like we suddenly live in a free in a free world yeah but you know

what everything feels so fraught politically and it feels like the pendulum just swings from one extreme to the other that like things get overturned just as quickly so like for some, I did read that news last week and I just thought all it takes is for somebody like far right to get into power, which could happen. Right? Well in this country. Yeah.

I think so. I have a little bit more, I don't know, optimism. I felt very optimistic about this news. I was like, hmm, interesting. I think they even said that the MPs could vote on their personal beliefs and not their party's line, top line. So I feel like that's the right thing to be doing,

to like actually, because I have had a few abortions and I think one of them was coming up to about three and a half months. And that was really terrifying. And I had no idea. And that was really terrifying. Actually, I can't do this podcast anymore. Sorry, just morally, I can't do it with somebody that's done that. Please, didn't you help me? Didn't you make the call? I think I actually performed it backstreet in our apartment.

Well, I don't know because I felt really embarrassed to even say that I've had more than one abortion. I was like, why the fuck should I be ashamed? I have had a few. I really have got no time for all of this nonsense. Like, I feel like it actually irritates me and I've said it before, like on the record, and I see it as like memes going around sometimes on Instagram from, you know, like pro-abortion accounts or whatever. But, you know, whenever this conversation comes up and then suddenly you start seeing people posting things about extraordinary reasons for having abortions. Like, you know, my aunt had, you know, a kid that, you know, had this disability or whatever. If she went full term, it was going to kill her. So we have to be... It's like, shut up. Just like, I don't want a fucking baby right now. I mean, exactly. Literally don't want a baby is enough reason. Yeah, I think one of the abortions I had, I hated the guy and had absolutely no interest

in having his fucking child. I was like, absolutely not. And as you know, throughout my 20s and 30s, having a baby wasn't really very important to me. And I would have hated if I didn't have the option and the freedom to do what I needed to do for my own life. I feel like this is the government saying that the autonomy of a woman within this space is really deeply important and I don't feel like I've ever felt that they've cared in that way before.

Does that make sense? Yeah, obviously there would be some risks associated with late term abortions performed at home. So it's very important to highlight that. Yeah, and that it is still illegal after 24 weeks of pregnancy, but it's not criminalized anymore. Mm. And we'll go to a break, I think.

I think we'll end that. That's a nice way to go to the break. Cut that little umbilical cord from part one. We're in the afterbirth, we're delivering the afterbirth. Here we are in part two. This is the afterbirth part of Miss Me, otherwise known as part two. So I was thinking, because I have had several smush motions, that does tell me that my body knows how to get pregnant. So I've always kind of rested on that when it comes to my fertility, even as I started aging towards 40. I was like, it's okay, I've been pregnant before. I'm quite young. My skin still looks good. And I like skipping. It's like that doesn't mean anything.

I just basically thought I was invincible, Lilly. Yeah. So now that I've been looking into fertility and the freezing of my eggs, what I realized is that I need to just start right at the beginning, which is how many do I have and how are they looking? And that part of-

Your eggs? Yeah, I have no idea. That part I would like if you could come with me. Absolutely, but can we get a fucking move on? Yeah, I have no idea. That part I would like if you could come with me. Absolutely, but can we get a fucking move on? Yeah, sure. Absolutely. Time is ticking. I don't wanna like alarm anyone, but you know.

No, I think I need someone to hold my hand because it could be really bad news. It could be you don't have any viable legs and I need to be prepared for that. Yeah, I think you need to prepare yourself for that eventuality to be honest. Yeah, I'm 41. But then as I've told you, not even sure whether I want to have a kid. So I might not be that devastated. I just want like to know what's going on.

Like to just get the DL on my womb pronto. Yeah, and also you could have a surrogate still or you could have, you could adopt. You know what's crazy that when I was looking into freezing eggs, correct me if I'm wrong, but according to my research, once you have the embryo, which is, and also we should be a bit more specific because people talk about this in a grand way, the sort of grand umbrella terms of everything and there's a lot that, you know, not many people know and there's a lot I didn't bloody know about. So the process of freezing your eggs

is actually called the stimulation. This is when you have to have daily injections for like two weeks, and that's helping to collect the mature eggs, which they bloody are by now for me. And then during two weeks of stimulation, then you have some scans, blood tests, and then you get ready for your eggs to be retrieved. And then you are sedated and your egg retrieval happens but this is only if you have viable eggs so if you have a viable egg and then

you have the sperm injected and you create an embryo you can freeze that fucker for up to 55 years. It's not bad. Which means does that mean that there's going to be lots of women and couples Which means, does that mean that there's going to be lots of women and couples having babies at 60? I think by the time you get to 60, you're probably like, do I really want to have a kid right now? Allow it. I think the body could still physically go into labour though. I think it's just the eggs that get old. I would like to just quickly like stress and flag that like, personally I feel very stress and flag that like, personally, I feel very privileged not to know too much about the

IVF and egg harvesting situation. Like both of my children were natural pregnancies, natural births. I have not had to go on that IVF journey. And also I will say that when women bring up IVF, when someone is admitting to you that they are on a journey to try and have children, and the fact that they're talking about having to go through IVF means that there's a likelihood that they're not going to. To me, that just is such a devastating conversation. Well, I think that's the thing about freezing eggs and IVF

is that none of these things are 100%. It's not a given that it's gonna work. It's not a given that pregnancy is the outcome. No. And that's a really devastating, terrifying, exhausting journey to go on. So this is what I mean, you've got to really make the decision of I want to have a baby and I just don't know. So it's just a fucking head fuck. It just is a head fuck.

I wish it was more like in, I don't know, each they like to have the conversation. I mean, but it's like when Courtney and Travis met in their early 40s and they go through that whole, Kardashians I am talking about, yes, and they go through all that fertility shit and then the minute they leave it alone, she gets pregnant. I mean, you know, God has a plan and I just go with the flow, but I do need to make a doctor's appointment and you are coming with me.

I will come with you, but if it doesn't go well, let's not, you know, catastrophize. We will find another way. And I'll help you on that journey too. I don't wanna cry. Let it out, babe. No, I'm fucking crying all the time on this show. I need to get a grip.

Want me to sing somewhere I knew we know just to egg it on a little bit. And if you have a minute. If you sung Brothers and Sisters from Romeo and Juliet, I would cry. Brothers and sisters together can make it through. We will. Oh yeah. Someday a spirit will take you and guide you there.

No, that makes me want to cry when you sing notes like that. I know you've been hurting, but I've been waiting to be there for you. Yeah. Oh, Lily, you literally, you could sing gospel if you wanted. So interesting that you, you're the white girl, I'm the black girl, and you got the voice. I don't know, but you can dance and I can't. I can't sing for shit. Have you seen this change or this option filter on dating apps about height? Yes, it's very upsetting.

Short men on Tinder are fucked. filter on dating apps about height. Yes, it's very upsetting. Short men on Tinder are fucked. Yes, short men are fucked. If they're looking for love on Tinder. Or not, quite. I just think it's so unfair because there's two things, right, that a man can't help. Penis size and height, right?

And age. We are really, which was the last one? They're not immune from aging either, just putting it out there. Yeah, but no one, I don't feel like they're kind of like frowned upon when they age. For aging. They become silver foxes.

And, but these two things are really serious. Oh, sorry, and baldness. And these things are really serious for men and completely uncontrollable. And I think that we are too flippant in making men feel shit about all the above. Baldness, small penis, shortness. And I've had boyfriends that are shorter than me.

I know when I told you the other day, Lilly's reaction was, ew. Which says how you feel about it. But I really like, you know, lean pretty boys and the two or three of them have been a tiny, tiny bit shorter than me. And I didn't mind it. And I can't even look at anyone under six, but I'll be honest.

But you're such a short ass. So what are you worried about? Cause it doesn't take too much to be taller than you, but you do quite like a tall man. You don't just like someone who's about your height. All comes under the daddy umbrella. He ain't tall. No, I know.

It's more just like, oh, you're big and you kind of come to me. Oh, okay. Right. And you can pick me up and take me out of dangerous situations. No, no, no, but this is important because really when we're dating,

we're, you know, the animal in us because this comes back to having like a type and me and Jordan talked about it when you were away and he said that having a type is a form of low self-esteem. Also, probably it's just like, you know, I know that like being short is not ideal so maybe for my kids I'm like I need to have sex with a tall person because I don't want you to have this affliction and by the way it's worked both my kids are basically taller than me already. And leggy bitches nice long legs on both of them. Yeah. Um, so do you know

that you're short? So sweet. Yes. Vertically challenged. So sweet. No, I make up for it in other areas. Um, I've got large breasts. Yeah, quite recently. No, I think your energy is mighty because your frame is quite slighty. Mighty but slighty. No, it's slighty, slighty but mighty. Okay, but my mom is, you know, vertically challenged too. And a very powerful woman. And look, and she got married to my vertically challenged father and then look what happened. So I would never, I would never bestow that upon a child in intent, knowingly. So if you were on a date with someone and they turned up, because apparently men, this is a-

Oh, I did, that did happen to me. What someone said, I'm about this tall, and then they came and they were- Because sometimes you just like forget, I forget to check that. And so I matched them and set up a date and then I was like, actually let me just have a look again. And then you go back and you realize they haven't posted any pictures, like you can see them full length or standing next to any other human beings.

And you're like, oh, I know why you've done that. Yeah, but you know why? Cause it's really hard, I think, being a short man. I think it's really, really hard. Look at our general- One hard thing about being a man. Well, absolutely, and if there's one hard thing for men, then we will talk about it,

because I think it must be a real challenge to feel like there's something that women, downright, outright, say, ugh, I don't like short men. Like, no man says that about a woman. I don't think short women, you know, have you ever been turned down for being a short lady? I don't know. No, they just think your little poly pocket

put you in their pocket. At least they've got like better job opportunities. No, I'm sticking by men on this one. Fuck off, why, why? Because I feel like there are these things that men go through and everyone laughs and jokes about it and it's really fucking hard to live the existence of like going bald at 24. And they're like, Oh, I don't take baldies. It's like, what

the fuck are that all the men that lost their hair early and that's probably quite traumatizing. What are they all meant to do about feeling completely unworthy? Get a hair transplant. I might have this conversation with someone transplant. I might have this conversation with someone else. I might have this conversation with someone who- Literally talk to someone who cares. I... What were we getting, why were we, I was gonna say something.

No, I think you've been mean enough about bald, short, badly endowed men. Tall women. Flossy is asking us how we feel about tall women. Flossy, I'm a tall woman and it doesn't get in my way. Not that tall. Not that your people would be like, whoa, she's really tall.

Okay, I'm 5'8". I'm quite tall. That's not... Okay. Do you mean like 6'3", as a woman? Yes, that's hard. I read an article about a woman who was talking about being very tall. But then remember when we were with our friend Kessler

the other day and she's very tall, and she said, I like to wear stilettos, because Lily was in these fuck-off stilettos. I was like, Lily, how do you do it? And she was like, I've been, I mean, I know this, she's been practicing since she was very young, and you just, you taught yourself. Totter around on my big heels.

Get that height in, and I wear tiny, tiny little kitten heels, I guess, because I'm tall. But Keswell wears Lily type shoes, and she's about my height. And she said, I like to be taller, even taller. So that's quite a nice way to go through the world being tall as a tall woman. Like, fuck it, let me be even taller.

I think I have a good height. I'm happy with my height. And I would date a man shorter than me. What about Zendaya and Tom Holland? They seem happy. What if she'd- Exactly. Snayed him just because he's a bit short. And you know what? He sets the precedent of the energy of that couple man shorter than me. What about Zendaya and Tom Holland? They seem happy. What if she'd- Exactly. Exsnayed him just because he's a bit short.

And you know what? He sets the precedent of the energy of that couple. Because if you could feel that he was like, oh, I'm shorter than her, it's embarrassing. Their energy wouldn't be so vibey, but you can tell he does not give a fuck. Yeah. All right, let's end it there then.

A bit too much truth time. A little bit too much truthy time. It's hot in this city, isn't it? It's getting hot in here. No, I was thinking when I was singing you out and about, I was thinking it was a bit more like, hot child in the city. Like disco queen.

Anyway, we're not gonna sing too much because boy did we sing on the last episode of Miss Me That I Listen To, so we're gonna keep it. I hope my voice is different. I listened back to the podcast last week and I was like, what register are you workshopping here? Like this is horrendous. So I really apologize to anyone's earbuds that were offended from my voice last week. I think you were just quite happy and excited.

I think I was deliriously tired because I'd like not long landed and I had already done a couple days rehearsing and to come straight in from a full day's rehearsal and then record a podcast. Can you just get your tiny violin out? Because it's very hard my life. Yeah, I know. It's fucking hell. You're all right. Your diamond shoes are too tight. We get it. You signed up for this. So we'll see you next week. But listen, Yeah, I know, it's fucking hell. All right, your diamond shoes are too tight. We get it. You signed up for this. So we'll see you next week. But listen, bitch, I'm so excited about contraception.

You best believe I'm gonna tell you some ancient ways. I'm gonna tell you how the ancient Egyptians haven't just told us how many times you've had abortions. Yeah, so I don't have much history of contraception, but boy do the ancient Egyptians. Let me tell you! That's not true. I've also used a lot of contraception.

I'm just fucking fertile. Hopefully still. Hopefully still. We'll see. We'll let you know how that goes. Or we might keep it private. See how I feel. Bye everyone!

See you on Monday for Listen Bitch. Bye, see you on Monday, the theme is country reception. We'll see you then, Lily Allen. Thank you so much, literally. Bye. Thanks for listening to Miss Me with Lily Allen and Makita Oliver. This is a Persephoneka production for BBC Sounds.

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