Miss Me? - Surf’s Up

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

Miquita Oliver and Jordan Stephens check in from holiday in Sri Lanka, and chat sex locations and James Bond.This episode contains very strong language, sexual content and adult themes. Credits: Producer: Natalie Jamieson Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Assistant Producer: Caillin McDaid Production Coordinator: Rose Wilcox Executive Producer: Dino Sofos Commissioning Producer for BBC: Jake Williams Commissioners: Dylan Haskins & Lorraine Okuefuna

All right. The following episode contains strong language, adult themes, and we do talk a lot about sex quite a lot and, you know, strong sexual themes. So this is a special strong sexual warning. Also, I also want to send a second trigger. If you are miserable in London right now, we will be with you in about a week. But right now, we're not. And I'm sorry. I'm able to think I love. Oh, my God, shit. Oh, wait, Keats, are you doing this? Okay. Sorry, I see Steve my plat. Welcome to International Miss Meet. Jordan and I are on the same family holiday with our extended family,

the beautiful aisles of Sri Lanka. We were in the same place, but then Jordan went up into the mountains, which turns out has absolutely no internet. No, I'm still here, by the way, I'm still in the mountains with internet. I'm hearing people shout in the background of your... It's, it's... Explain where you are and what's happening. Guys, I'm trying...

Sorry, we're recording. Shushy. For context, guys, anyone listening, if this has made the edit, Makita is shouting, like, in a public retreat. Just to be clear, there isn't exclusively McKita's friends and family that are staying. It's a public retreat. No, this is a retreat for others. In a yoga studio, which she has chosen to use as a setting

because there's a white horse there. Do you want to begin, Makita, by indulging how much white horses mean to you right now? How much white horses mean to me and how much they've been appearing since said meaning showed up? One person that's on the solid is Phoebe Oliver, my cousin, who reads Tara.

And I had a reading. I have readings with her a lot. But Jordan and Jade have never had a reading with Phoebe. And you both had them. And I went first, sorry. And at the end of my reading, This is after I realized that it's the year of the horse, and I keep singing that song,

Do you want to ride, ride the white horse? Which no one else seemed to know, apart from Phoebe. That was a huge song. But then when we listen to it, it's actually, if you want to ride, don't ride the white horse. So it's actually saying don't take cocaine. Okay. That's a good message.

Always a good message. But really, I've decided now it's, do you want to ride, ride the right horse? Nice. So what kind of you? year do you want to have? What horse do you want to ride? Either way, I got the son in my reading with Phoebe. The son is literally a baby bare naked riding a white horse and then Jordan got the same card. Yes, I did. And we'll just say some of the other people are on this holiday.

Nana Cherry turned up now with Naima, her daughter, my cousin and her husband Cameron, Jade and Jordan were with us, Auntie Allison, who's Lily's mum, her boyfriend Erin, Garfield, my mum and Clara it's a big load also shut out Maverick Sabre saw him at the airport spent New Year's Eve bumping into him

legend tell everyone a little bit about New Year's Eve through your eyes because I think we tell each other a different story What do you mean? Well for one

I thought I was quite well behaved and then you told me I was matched so I was like okay fuck you I thought I was really holding it together okay so two things firstly I want to explain to people that we are on the same holiday

but me and Jada had gone into the mountain just for context that's why we're in different settings we're in the middle of the mountains we're in a very peaceful calming place called the living retreat and i feel very calm and at peace and it's nice and we're here for a few days we're going to come back and see you guys again on the coast at the surfing town um new year's eve it was a cute fireworks display that was fun then we went to a party at an abandoned cliff edge hotel slash mansion which was amazing building yes on the way to the New Year's Eve party that we're going to pay to get into and listen to music

and dance, you said, I don't want to go to the party, I want to go home and make a deck. What I meant was, I probably have more fun. No, New Year's Eve, we're out, there's like six of us out, seven of us out. She said, I don't want to go to the party, I want to

make a potential pitch for a TV show. This is it about 1am. There was a documentary idea, actually, not TV show. Bakita, save it for New Year's Day. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Sure. But then when I got to said hotel and saw everyone gurning to their bad fucking music, I knew I was right. I had a bit of, personally, I had some fun, to be honest. We got people had tattoos. I bought this hat. Yeah, I mean, it was lovely. But what I really want to say is that it's really hard actually to make international miss me.

Takes a lot. You're hilarious. Takes a lot of people. And to bring this sunshine to you as you, you know, grin and bear January. Can I get Andy Oliver, who has been on snacks and sanity? There's Andy Oliver, she's been on snacks. I see myself. Why can't we see yourself? Sorry. My mum likes to be on camera. Andy Oliver, can we get production coordinators, Alison Owen and Jeanette Lee?

They are the production coordinators, Auntie Allison and Jeanette Lee. They usually are running businesses that are really quite important in this world. And they're the power aunties. Couple boss ladies. Exactly, couple boss ladies. Garfield. as usual, with his new, with his new partner, Phoebe, is on vibes. But Phoebe has been here for spiritual guidance.

Phoebe, the star of the holiday so far. Yeah. You know it to be true. 100%. Aaron Props. Wait, God after they get introduced. Aaron Props, Libby, youth and culture. Aaron, legend.

One of my new faves. Welcome to the international Miss Me production crew. It takes a lot of people. Jade. Takes a lot of people. Can you come for a second, please? On health and safety. Jay, you need to show up as health and safety.

She's eating lunch. Let's explain why Jade is on health and safety. Oh, yeah, and then landlord Mark who owns this beautiful place that we're at, which is welcome Nibana retreat. Mark hooked us. Oh, yes, Mark. Mark hooked us. Let's go. We couldn't do this without him.

And then here's Jade. Health and say, Jay. Hello. No one for having a mosquito bite without Jade close to health. And also chocolate acquisition. Okay, you can all go now. Bye! Yeah, I'm the mosquito queen.

Takes a lot of V-B-a-M-W-W-W-A. Hey, Jady. Miss you already. Oh, I miss you guys. They need your health and safety awareness. Bites out here that aren't being tended to. Is that my role today? Your health and safety.

Okay, health and safety. Nobody panic. As you know, always carry a bag full of mosquito repellents and all sorts. Just so everyone feels safe. Yeah. Safe. What else can I say? Really loving Sri Lanka.

Really loving Sri Lanka. It's very beautiful. Health and safety. Strappy and guys, you're in for a bumpy ride. Nice. I meant that about the podcast. My work here, done? Your work's done.

Well done, babe. Thank you. Here, enjoy, miss me, everyone. What else I trust with my life? Thank you. Okay, enjoy miss me, everyone. Happy New Year. All right, love you.

By the way, when we and you talking about Bond? No, I think that was Alison. Okay, so firstly, the rumours are that Callum Turner's going to be next Bond, which is crazy. That's my boy. I know. Can you fucking absolutely believe that? Yeah, right. Secondly, I watched The World is Not Enough, the beginning of it on the plane.

Makita, it is so bad. When I thought back about those films, yeah, I would think, like, obviously, when there's old school like rogermore whatever um goldfinger was a great film goldfinger's an incredible film that's what i'm trying to say it's back then because you know of the time classic incredible songs you know a little bit ridiculous but there's something that happened at the end of the 90s when when bond is caught in the 90s and naughtys and they've got a bit of CGI but not loads or like a bit of whatever like it's beyond incredibly bad like we've because daniel craig has sanitised it like he's literally fucking everyone I mean like I mean

He's literally, there's one scene where he gets injured in a ridiculous speedboat chase, like absolutely a ridiculous speedboat chase. And he... Fucks the speedboat driver. The doctor comes in and he just has sex with her. No, stop. I'm not even joking. Like, there's not even, there's barely any conversation.

She comes in and checks him. She's hot. He has sex with her. They simplified his charm and let's, into just like sex. The villain's hot. Money, Penny's hot. Every single person, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, like, I was surprised. And everything's a pun as well

which I forgot Which is a Bond thing But I just forgot that everything was a pun It is a Bond thing But it's not too It shouldn't be everything Can you imagine if he gets Bonwa I think he's

The T is I think he'd be fucking brilliant I genuinely do Because he is When I did my first ever Acting Job of Canada I know What was it called weeds

And no glue Almost And every morning Because he used to be a model Right So this was like His first proper acting job And he was so terrified

about being forever boxed in as a model And every single morning in the makeup chair, bear in mind, I was a fucking Coke piss head, right? So I was coming off my fucking face and I was playing a Coke piss head. So it was like, it was really easy to play.

And Callum was watching videos of Marlon Brando like in the makeup chair. Like he's so serious about being an actor. Yes, he's a studious. He's a proper studious. Like he's serious. And that's why I mean when people say to me about acting like, oh, you do acting.

I can't even in good faith say I do because I've seen what actual, like actual just only actors do. And I just don't do that. And also because he studied that kind of classicism. he'd be a good bond he'd bring a bit of class back do you know what I mean he'd be classy as fuck I'm looking at all these articles day man people are really getting serious about this shit about him being bond I think he'll be great genuinely although I do think it's a bit weird that me and jade was saying as well the other thing that's a little bit sad is that like because

daniel craig not only like decided that he was actually literally kill bond off but like it's such an epic like everyone's kind of in agreement he's kind of the best bond it would have been really cool to just introduce someone new like it would be it would have been fucking cool to just have like a completely fresh actor. Do you know how gangst that shit would have been? Introducing whatever, that would have been unreal. Yeah. We have a side game which we won't

go into which is what detective would you be? Just to clear it up, Phoebe is Poirro. Jordan is Ace Ventura pet detective which we thought was fucking genius. It was my suggestion. And Jade is Harriet the spy. Jade is Harriet the spy. I do need to obviously caveat that I'm in strong

disagreement in hindsight. Ace Ventura in of himself, chat into the animals you know what I mean saving pigeons legend right the actual storyline of the first ace venture I cannot stand by I watched it as a confused child and it's appalling

oh the homophobic the unbelievable homophobia it's well actually transphobia the entire the entire the actual entire film hinges on the main detective being a man but being a woman and when he discovers that he burns all

his clothes watches his laugh in a shower, cries, says he kissed a man. Pretty fucking, it hasn't dated well. Hasn't dated well, but can you imagine being a young man and watching and feeling, having feelings of sexual curiosity and then you're told point black, no, no, this is how you should feel about this. Didn't really get it. So maybe Ace Ventura when nature calls. Yeah, that one when he gets shit out by a rhino, probably have to watch that one instead. I haven't actually seen that piece of shit film, but it would be nice to get you back in the wild. Yeah, yes.

The thing is, Ace Venture is, his clothes, on point. The car, phenomenal. The fact he chats to animals, brilliant. Comic timing, out of this world. Absolutely. Appalling. Originality as well. He was such an original character.

I was like, who done? Alrighty then. Yeah. Stuff that is like just in our vernacular now with things said in this bloody film that you'd never heard before. And it was the beginning of a very interesting career for Jim Carrey.

I had a brief stint as a rapper called Nali Ventura actually as an alias. That's not bad. That's not bad, Nali Ventura. Um, yes. So the reason that we play this, that it isn't the reason, but it is quite interesting on the holiday, the way you assign a detective to a person on holiday, because it is about the way they approach things. And then we did actually have a case to solve yesterday. Were you here when my mom went through that thing? No. So my mom came up here to help me Recky the yoga room. I really have to give it down and walked into a bedroom with two people having full on sex and so we had to try and figure out which one to be caught to see the sex man no jordan why not i think people should see more sex

there's something about it's my worst nightmare what something about walking in on full blown sex that i just don't think i'd recover from very well i heard my mom go oh my god i am so sorry and and and then walked out which couple was it i might have seen them This is it. So I got all the detectives on the case. I got Poirot, I got Sherlock's Lily. Was it a Dutch couple? No, it was a couple that arrived later.

Let's just say that. Oh, oh, they knew. I didn't see them. Yeah, they were new. They arrived as you left. Fascinate. But anyway. What position were they doing?

And that was the second question, everyone asked. Yeah. Oh, my God. I think it's okay to talk about this. Okay, so it was missionary. Great. that the lady's legs were up in the air. Brilliant.

Yeah, I mean, they were having a good... I think that's called like the plough or something, isn't it? They were trying to have a good old holiday shag. And Andy Oliver totally fucked it up. And now no one could look them in the ice. So that's... No, no, no, no. There's a strong possibility they thought it was hot.

No. My mum said the guy went like this, and then covered his penis. So I think he feels a little bit vulnerable around my mum now. You know, I've never had sex outside. Oh, you're missing out. You know, me and Jade were talking about this yesterday. We were like, oh, we got these talking cards.

They're amazing, these like prompt cards. Like, you know, if you're just at dinner or whatever. But they're like not shit questions. They're like really, really cool questions that you probably wouldn't think of yourself. We were using them at dinner. And then one of them was like, what is controversial that shouldn't be? And my answer was sex in public. because in my head it should be reversed

like you should have to fight people in private and you should have sex in public so then we were joking about how like it's funny that if you have a fight you should be like let's take this inside and if you get hot if you're getting hot with somebody you should be like let's take this outside

let's make this more into work yeah yeah just want to talk about this sex in public places because it feels like you've done it more than me I once before I think I did have sex with a guy called Freddy on a beach in France once actually but that doesn't really care

you think yeah I know Fuck. Oh, you did. Okay, great. The guy from first date. It's crazy. No. That was Sam. And how did it? I don't think I've ever talked about that publicly. No, I didn't say that. I meant the show first dates, but thank you for exposing it. Okay. So, wherever you had sex in public? Because I think I'd like, if it was all like okay and everyone was like, yes, fine, then I'd probably quite like to have sex in a park.

Yeah. Or like on a hill. Yeah. Have you done that? Yeah. Done both? Yeah. Oh my God. Have you on a hill? Yeah. in a car

on a plane no on a boat on a boat I don't think I've been on that many boats like on a ferry or something I don't know I'll have to like carry on

I don't know about that one I mean more than a canoe and in the rain just to end this as Zeus would outside in the rain well I'm just trying to do like on a plane would you eat green eggs and have

have you had sex in public places possibly possibly with the rain but that's It's not as clear, clear cut. Wow, what a journey. A lot of roofs. What do you mean? A lot of roof.

We're making me feel weird about the word roof, roofs now. Is that a word? A lot of on the top of buildings. Oh, roofs. Yes, roofs. A lot of roofs. What the fuck? You've had lots of roof sex.

God, I'm like telling the whole retreat. You can't come back to my way. I mean, it is what it is, man. Listen, I was like a, you know, I was a bit of a wild child. But we just don't get taught about. any of this shit. We have to assume it's like stuff we see on films or on or people who have voluntarily recorded themselves. I don't know, man. It just seems so no. Is this weird? I mean, maybe it seems so human to you, but I have something that you didn't have, which is

traumatized childhood of having to hear my mother have sex. Okay. Can I just be clear? I didn't, sorry, do you, do you've taken that left? I didn't. I didn't say. I didn't say. I didn't say I'm trying to hear my mum have sex. That's not what you say. Yes, I did not in any way think that people should hear their families have sex. That's crazy. But you do think strangers gives a kind of different experience. Yeah, maybe this is weird.

I just look, I just think that like... What do you mean? I can't believe that. Nat just told us it's illegal. I don't know it's straight up illegal. I thought it was just frowned upon. Oh, public indecency. Sex and public decency.

Yeah, yeah, public and decency. illegal that's interesting that is interesting isn't it no that's not why i haven't done it i mean i don't think people are really sorry can i just ask is sex in a car illegal yes quite thanking that very sorry dog it is very different that it's like dogging and i agree i think a nice casual trist in a car with someone you love is not the same as dogging also so also sex in public is also not the same as dogging i'm talking about two people dogging is public sex but I'm talking about the fact that people

should have the freedom to express their attraction to each other you know some but look I understand as I say this people are going to think I'm nuts and to be fair it is definitely abstract and I might if in my world where I was able to action this I might be shocked to my very core and then not want there anymore

and that's the reason why sex is behind closed doors anyway I thought it was really interesting I like that Nat our producer at the beginning said I have no idea where this conversation decision will go and I said it would just be a holiday chat. Who knew we'd end with dogging? Well, we did. Got that miss me spicy energy back. Okay. Yeah. So for clarity, guys, I've begun this by talking about public sex as, you know, it's slightly, I'm being slightly hyperbolic. I'm not necessarily thinking it massively through. All I'm saying is my general point is, I think people

could benefit from seeing and hearing real sex a little bit more. However, I understand that laws are in place to prevent people from having sex, for example, in front of children. I am firmly against that. You need to grow up a bit before you can engage with those kind of thoughts. If you're going to have sex in the park, don't do it by the children's training. Don't do it. It's got to be late and shit, you know, in an adult setting. Let's have a little break from all this bloody sexual indecency.

And we will see you on the other side for something a lot cleaner and a lot less taboo. Okay. I didn't know it's taboo, man. I don't know why sex is. No, it's fucking not. I'm joking. Welcome back to Miss Me, the Sri Lankan edition, from the mountains to the, what am I in?

Where are we? It's really lovely, the town. Ahangama. It's really nice. We went and played pool. It was fun. I beat Jordan, but then I lost because I potted the white ball. Well, you lost.

What do you mean you beat me? Well, I potted the black. And white at the same time. I don't know. understand what you're trying to navigate here. Okay, I know. He's right. I lost, actually. I lost. But we're very excited to find that place. And we went for dinner the other night.

And we met this lovely couple. There was this lovely boy called Earl, who was 11 English boy. His mum's called Vicky. I asked their surname. I can't remember it. And I don't want to get it wrong. So just big up, Earl and Vicky. And Earl is a huge mystery fan. I was like, really? An 11-year-old boy in Sri Lanka? That's quite rogue. And I think that it's important to say what Vicky said to me, Jordan, about you and your arrival and Miss Me, which was Vicki's listened to Miss Me since the beginning. She loves it. And then her son started listening to it and enjoying it. But since your arrival, there have been things that she has, conversation she has wanted to have with her 11-year-old son that she sometimes no longer has to have and sometimes is prompted by stuff that we're talking about.

I also couldn't look, Earl in the eye, because I was like, hmm, has he heard me talk about orgasms? Almost certainly. So they were the sweetest mother and son. I just wanted to say, he said that he was, you know, him and his friends in Sri Lanka, listen to miss me. And that is something I did not think. It's buzzing because Sri Lanka's a vibe. Yeah, I fucking love it here.

It's a vibe, mate. I love it here. And actually, it's been really good to be on holiday, like this kind of en masse holiday, right? This isn't something we've always done in our big extended family. This is kind of a new thing. It's like in the last four or five years. And this is probably the biggest assortment of people.

And I've just been really interested in this kind of democratizing energy that the holiday brings. Like Alison is here, Lily's mum, who's a very powerful film producer. But here, she's sort of just a human being that needs sleep, food, entertainment. I quite like that we all become the simplified versions of ourselves that like to lie around. I've really enjoyed talking to the aunties about like their careers and their lives and how they work now. I know I love talking about work. but I've found it really inspiring. Yeah, of course, that is like,

I like having a unit and then you can go, obviously, that it's been quite chill in terms of people going off on their own. Obviously, we're literally on our own adventure right now, but even within the town, you know, you don't have to be spending it every day with each other, but then you get this kind of union. It's definitely something to be said about having community

in a relaxed setting. I think that's one thing I've taken away from this trip is how, just like, how beautiful both those things are, community, and just like a slower pace, I'd say. Because I remember, because specifically this surf town, I mean, we're in the mountains now, but the surf town that you're in,

I remember when we went to another city, about an hour away the other day, and the sudden, like, whack of traffic and smoke and pollution and whatever, I was just like, yo, I'm not trying to feel this. I'm not trying to feel this, actually. I really had a massive amount of gratitude for just the way these surf towns kind of work

and the energy that they've, bring and I can see where people travel all along the coast because it's just everyone's on these little bikes and pets and I had my little scooter you can just pull up to a coffee shop no stress no parking tickets no no no no you know no congestion charge and you did as yes no fucking congest that doesn't exist here at all but also you did get out and surf because I cut my foot so I couldn't go but you did ride two waves a couple two or three stand-ups like which isn't great but it was really hard to for people who do surf The main thing about Sri Lanka, which is a blessing and a curse, or this coast in Sri Lanka,

is that there are so many waves. So, like, if you manage to get yourself into the interior, which is the, I think the term that surf was used for... I love that. Basically, basically, a far enough into the ocean to be able to turn around and catch a wave, basically. If you get wiped out or, you know, you catch a wave and you just want to get back on another one, you're constantly faced by other waves, you know what I mean? So it just takes a lot out of you. It's fucking exhausting.

Yeah, it's like a little thing I like to call life. Do you know the term for a wave when it's breaking? I learnt this in geography. I can't remember it. It's a colloquial term. Go ahead. White horse. No, it's not.

I'm being dead serious, yeah. That's what they call the breaking of a wave as a white horse. Of course, that's why the Guinness advert. The greatest advert of all time. God, it is all coming together. I fucking love that advert. I think it actually got voted the best. Yes, it did on that show.

Can I just say there is a white horse behind me. And I, you know, I didn't carve it over it. night but I did manifest the fucker and now you're surfing and that's called the white horse I mean don't make me sing it again listen keats keats I've been loving horses just to be clear I've been loving horses let's just sing do you want to ride the right horse ride the right horse sorry right horse yeah I love what horse do you want to ride this year like like this is all about sorry I mean I mentioned this in the lily jade me Jordan episode this is the year of the horse I'm not just chatting about horses and it really is about a power

coming into the universe that you can partner with if you're willing to ride. What are you feeling? At a moment, I feel I'm most intrigued by, I feel we're intrigued by the discordance between Western and Eastern philosophy. So I feel like we're in Sri Lanka, you know, it's a Buddhist country, which is, which is, again, I just genuinely haven't been to a country that hasn't been either Christian or Muslim for a long time. and I find Eastern philosophy so intriguing and desirable

and it's all about interconnectivity between people and harmony within the self, but the self extending out to people around. Whereas Western, sometimes I hear us, you know, talk about things that miss me or conversations I have. I just wonder if like in the West, we just lost, I don't know, like a philosophy that serves us where, do you know what I'm trying to say? Yeah, you're so brilliant at leading me to things

because I really did want to talk about that sleep study thing that Phoebe found. And actually Kalin, who works on Mississippi, we sent it to us as well. And it's about this idea about the myth of the way we sleep and what we're told that we need. And actually, there's information to support that throughout history, people slept very differently. And it is actually a capitalist construct to be like, you need eight hours of sleep because you need to get up, work for the man, and live in that cyclical nature. But actually, where is that article? I had it. This is it, the myth of the eight hours sleep. Yeah, listen to this.

Unertermore than 500 references to a segmented sleeping pattern in diaries, court records, medical books, and literature from Homer's Odyssey to an anthropological account of modern tribes in Nigeria. These references describe a first sleep, which began about two hours after dusk. So you go to sleep about, oh, about seven. Lovely. And then you follow, that's followed by a waking period of one or two hours. So then like between nine to 12, you can have something to eat, have some sex. do what you want, and then you go back to sleep. And actually, if I wake up at like 6 a.m.

And then I go back to sleep at like 9, I always, me and mum always go, oh, you had a second sleep. And it's always deeper. It's also the case of like, we consider ourselves the most civilized, you know, or like we are the utmost example of democracy and, you know. Way to live.

Way to live, right. But then it feels like anybody who escapes or manages to briefly release themselves from the press, of capitalism almost immediately returns to the cultures that we claims to civilise in the first place. Right. Do you know what I mean?

That's actually a very good point. Everyone immediately goes back to people in the bush who have maintained and held on to the traditions of their culture and then we revel in it like it's a new discovery. Yeah, and it's like, no, no, remember, we decided to get rid of all of those ideals and do it this way instead. We're like, wait, wait, wait, I've got enough money but I've forgotten how to breathe.

Or like, or like, wait, wait, wait, I've got enough money, but like, why? do I feel like this anvil of sadness in myself as like yeah well you have like the you know ancient ideas again around sex completely different thousands of years ago in the east they considered it to be like an energy to cultivate nowadays we have like a westernized version of it and shame attached to it I find that interesting I don't have any answers I just find it interesting and it seems to be at the core of so many issues we have and so I just think well why are we not like more interested I think it would be very good for miss me that you're having this sort of mental battle between the eastern

philosophies of your i think this is going to really work for us well really works for a podcast yeah yeah yeah yeah really does for me that's the kind of shit i'm interested in as you know um but i also think it starts early you know that big circle with the cross through it no heavy petting at the at the swimming pool why not why can't you have a snog at the swimming pool because of the kids why yeah but the shame attached to kids to children and their curiosity with each other i always found very oppressive. I was really interested in kissing and wanted to know more about it and wanted to get busy. You've just unlocked the memory of me. I kissed a girl under the water in a swimming pool. King Alfred's, it's just a swimming pool in Brighton. Yeah, no, it's really hot kissing in swimming pools.

Yeah, but under the water was actually a challenge, man. Oh, you were under the water. Yeah, under the water. Because of the no petting. Yeah, because of the no petting. He really, really worked against the government and your sex life for quite a while now. Keith, I've got a question for you. So what's your... Okay, so, so, Two questions, actually. One, you need to respond with what you're wanting to ride through this year. I think you know, but go on. And then the second word be, what is your opinion on travel?

I find travelling. I'm better at it now, but it goes into what I was talking about with, like, everyone being here and they're being simplified. But I think in the same sense, which is why I hate watching people actually in airports, I think it infantilises us all travel. There is also this idea of like, I don't know, like you get to the airport and like we could all die in this plane. Like I do, I am quite scared of flying. I watch this horrific thing about plane crashes and it.

I haven't flown since and this time flying was quite scary. That air India crash really scared me that happened quite recently. Is that the one with a guy, the one survivor? Yeah. Yeah, wild. That was fucking terrifying and awful for so many families that lost people. But there is just something about travel. I just think people look really sheepish when they travel.

Where do I put my shoes? Can I put my bag there? Oh, right. When you're going through security, there's quite a lot that makes us equalized, but at the same time, infantilized. And I think people are tested by moments of imperfection within holiday and travel.

And once you realize that it's the same as the fucking anywhere else you go, it depends how you're feeling in your head. Maybe travels become better for me in that way. That's actually what, because remember I told you there was a woman who wrote a substack, Seema, Karaman. Semma, Semma Caraman. She basically wrote my case against travel.

And I thought it's quite interesting because she prefaces it by saying she's traveled an extensive amount. So, you know, the whole thing is shrouded in hypocrisy. But I think her travel has led her to reflect. And a lot of it was work-based as well. She thinks, you know, there used to be a time where traveling was like considered a type of skill within a set community. So not everybody was equipped to be traveling because it involves like a level of curiosity. and a willingness to be like, like you say, slamming it, like be uncomfortable, whatever.

And then obviously nowadays, it's a lot more accessible. And she thinks that people shouldn't be traveling as regularly as they do, especially when it's actually at the expense of their bank accounts. No, no, it's interesting point. So she just says that, you know, like, like you said, people have attached the idea of feeling better to flying away from the country they live in. And when actually, you know, we do have that ability to feel okay within ourselves and we are meant to know our neighbours more than we are meant to know the person who, you know, is at this resort, 20,000 miles away.

Absolutely. And I think maybe this is why I've really enjoyed this holiday because I am in a really good headspace and I suppose what you're saying about, do you want to ride? What do I want to ride? Yeah, what do you want to ride? I think I want to ride on a moonbeam to the stars. Fucking love that. Fucking get on that moonbeam, will you? If I'm completely honest.

Moonbeam, is that the name for it now? Are you going to be in the mountains when I see you Because we've got another miss me while we're still away See you next week For listen, bitch Femez RIS. Femis risk, which is a big, big, big topic right now Big topic.

Also, I want to shout out to everybody in London who owns a scooter. What do you mean? Because it's a risky game. No, no, no. Just, sorry, that was just a side note. I just like, obviously my scooter appreciation is through the roof right now in Sri Lanka.

Love you, babe. See you next week. Bye-bye. Thanks for listening to Miss Me. This is a Perciphonica production for BBC Sounds. I'm Dr Chris Van Tellerken. And I'm Dr. Zandt Van Telenk. Chris, it's that time of year when we set resolutions.

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