BTL Roundtable | Adesanya vs. Pereira, Volkanovski's Greatness, Run Back Pedro Munhoz vs. Sean O'Malley?
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02:15All right, we are alive, everybody.If you're listening to the podcast network,The iconic voice of Esther Lynnwelcomes you to a brand new edition of Between the Links.And if you're not listening to the podcast network,well, you've got the countdown music.And that's all you're going to get.That ruled.
02:34The countdown music was awesome.We should do that more.I've never heard that before, but that was dope.Hey, listen, I'm finding all these new things on Stream Yard.The reason why we did that is because E. Casey Liden is not here today,so I have to produce this bad boy myself.And I figured coming off of a storyline-filled UFC 276 event,Why not just bust out the old roundtable episode, especially since things are so crazy and hectic in Las Vegas last week.
03:01We skipped to BTO.Yeah.It's a holiday week for the first time ever.Yeah.Wow.First time ever, huh?I think so.I think so.
03:09You had a lot going on last week.You were doing a lot of stuff last week, Mike.I was.And I didn't want to wake you up at like 1 a.m. to do a BTL show.I didn't think that'd be very fair to you.I mean, it would have been fine.Like, I was just waxed.I'm full.
03:26Okay.There you go.But anyways, I am Mike Heck being joined by Mr. No Gray area himself,Mr. Hot Take, Jed Bishu.How are you, my friend?You're doing great.I'm excited to have you back in my life.There was like a solid 36 hours where you didn't have something on our podcast network.
03:45And I felt a little, it was like, oh, man, I don't know what's going on.Mike, Mike took Monday.Monday was off for Mike.I don't know what to do.So it's good to talk to you in person, buddy.It is good to talk in person.And I was only on the post-fight show for maybe 10 minutes,so I didn't get to hear a lot of what you had to say.
04:04And there's a reason for that because I wanted to get it in real time.So let's just dive right in to UFC 276 because Israel Adasania successfully defends his middleweight title against Jared Cananier.Was it a barn burner?No, it was not.Was it a fight that fans inside T-Mobile Arena decided.you know what? We're going to beat the traffic and head home a little early. Apparently it was.We're fans at home overly thrilled with the fight. Not really. But a lot of people seem to beblaming the champion for this Jedbushu. They seem to be blaming Israel out of Sanya. Our own shot
04:40Al Shadi wrote an article recapping the event and said one time's okay, two times maybe, but threetimes if you have sort of lackluster performances, it becomes a quote unquote trend. So is thereanybody to blame here? Do we blame Adasanya more than Canaaner? Is the challenger more to blame?Are both guys to blame? What's sort of your take on the made event itself? I mean, you blame them both.I am more want to blame Israel, this, and you. And I will explain why, because there's been avery odd backlash to people being like, that fight blew. I don't, from many, many of our owncompatriots, and we may find that com incredible website.I think you blame, look, you have to blame Jared Cannonier because he lost the fight.
05:27And I said this with Carlos Barser, Rosnoe, Unis.The proof is in the pudding, right?Like, history is written by the winners.And because as he won, you can't say that what he did was wrong or bad or ineffectivebecause he won, he won very convincingly and very cleanly.So by the most baseline definition, Jared Kennedy is more to blame because he could have tried more.He could have been more exciting.He could have made more attempts, but he did not.
05:58And so there's that.The reason people aren't blaming him, though, I mean, there are a couple.The first is he lost.And there's just not, like, that's just part of being the champion.You are the guy, you're the standard bearer.You're the flag waiver.You're the guy who the exes are going to be at, good or bad.So if you are the marquee man and you put on a marquee performance, you get to reap those
06:22rewards. If you are themarquey guy, you lay an egg,and whether you win or not, you lay an egg,you still have to take that on the chin.And I got really frustrated withIzzy's, like, indignance aboutbeing criticized as if he is some whole, like,levitating above the rest of us because he's
06:42so good or whatever. Like, yes, he's the bestmiddle weight in the world. When mypound for pound rankings come out next week fromMayfriand.com, great website,it will be Israeldissonia at the top spot. I am not takinganything away from him in that regard.But if you come out, you talk
06:58a bunch of trash, better back it up.He came out talking a bunch of trash that this isfresh blood and I'm a vampireand I'm gonna shine bright like a diamond.And then he just didn't. Like he won,he won convincingly.There's a lame fight andthis is not the first time.
07:14And that's the other reason people areblaming him because Jared Canaanerhas largely not had board.fights. I'm not going to pretend that I remember his wholecatalog off the top of my head, but I can'treally remember being like, oh, that fight was lamefor him. Whereas Izzy's got a bunch of them,almost, like, depending on your definition of boring or bad,
07:37you can make an argument that half of his fights in the UFChave not been fun to watch.And that's, that's on you, man. Like, yes, you are winning,and so that's okay. But you have to accept thatcalculus, right? You have to accept that winning and being beloved are not the same thing,and winning and praise are not the same thing. And it is certainly more financially responsible toprioritize winning over the other. But don't comment me with this, well, just remember, I can doyour job, but you can't do mine. I'm above criticism. Bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, blah. I know, dude,
08:14just like you didn't have a fun fight because you are not a fun fighter unless you have a dancepartner who is going to engage you in exactly the type of fight you want.Again, at the end of the day, victory is what matters in this sport.And so you cannot criticize the win.You can criticize everything else about it.And I just don't have to pretend like it's a good fight.Like none of us do, and there's no reason to do so.It's all okay for us to say dominant fight, dominant performance, still the champ, still
08:43the best in the world, the best fighter in the world.but like if you're not going to run headlong into his countershe is not going to fight you in a way that is fun to watchbecause that is not something he's interested inand and I'm going to keep saying as long as he keeps doing itbecause here I'll end on thisthe thing that made me the most upset this whole weekendI got upset a couple of times about post-fight stuff
09:08and things that were saidbecause some of it was really lame from the CKB boysbut the thing that made it was like the most frustrating to meis where he, like, talking about Alex Behea,he said the exact same things he said about Jared Kennedy before the fight.He was like, oh, well, you know, when my back's against the wall,that's when I perform the best.And people are forgetting how good I am.
09:30And just because I, you know, just because I was bored in my last couple of fights.And so I didn't have a great day.He said the exact same thing before Canadiere.And now he's saying the same thing here.Fool me once, man. Shame on me.Fool me like seven times.This is just who you are, dude, and own it.Like, own it.
09:48Own who you are as a fighter always.And that's just a much better way to go through life than being kind of petulant about rightfullybeing criticized for not being the most exciting fighter.Like, Danny Sabatelo, D-Sab's not an exciting fighter.Is that man ever being like, I'm the most exciting fighter?You guys just don't know what you're watching.He's like, no, stop me.I don't give a shit.
10:15And that's like, do that.I'd respect that a lot more, honestly.Yeah, his whole thing is dominance is boring.And the only reason you didn't like it is because it's dominance.So he just, he drives right into the criticism.If you don't like it, stop it.If you don't like it, stop me.If not, you're just going to shut up a deal with it.
10:34It's the thing is like, we talk, we joke about it and talk about how fighters are likethe most sensitive of people.But I never felt that Izzy was that way.this man felt like bulletproof in his self-belief forever.Like did nothing ever got to him?Nothing ever bothered him.Like, okay, I watch anime and do all this.Like, I don't give two tugs about you guys.
10:57Whatever you guys, what cool.And now it just feels like he does.He and maybe he doesn't internally or whatever,but he certainly talks about how much he doesn't care a lot.And that's just like the lamest thing in the world to me.It's so, I do just,just brush it off.Don't be indignant about stuff.
11:17Like you're the champion of the world.Just be cool.It's not that hard.Yeah.And to be clear,if you felt the fight was boring,no one is telling you that you can't feel that way.Like it's totally fine to feel that a fight is boring.
11:32I know like,yeah,a lot of people are saying you can't feel that way.It's a fight,blah, blah, blah.It's fine if you don't enjoy a fight.It's okay.I blame Canaaner more
11:42because the writing was on the wall.The narrative was written.Even Adasani knew it.He listens and hears everything,which is why he said what he had to sayat the post-fight press conference.I could do your job.You could never do mine,
11:55which is kind of crazy.But everyone was saying,for Canaanair to win this fight,he had to treat it like Kelvin Gasol.He had to go in there and make it a dog fight,make it a war.And I think in a way,Adasani was expecting that to happen.
12:07And when Cannonair decided to jump into a mid-rangekickboxing match with this.He made a business decision, Mike.That's what they call that in the world of sports.He made a business decision.But of course, like Adasani is sitting there like, oh, this is what we're doing?Okay.It's like Steph Curry giving up a wide open three to do a triple somersault slam dunk.
12:30Of course he's going to take the three and he's going to hit it.It's the best thing about his game.So if you're going to give him that wide open three and not put bodies on him, he's going to take the damn three.And that's what Adasani did.You're going to give him what he wants.Okay.I'm going to take it.and get the W because either way, no matter what happened in the featured boat between
12:47Sean Strickland and Alex Baheda, is he's got a big fight ahead of him. Big money fight. Doesn't matterwho won that fight, but he had to win on Saturday. And if Canada is just giving him the win,he's got to take the damn win. So I get where he's coming from. But it's, it is okay for fans tosay, and even media members to say that the fight was not all that aesthetically pleasing,considering we just watched Volcanowski put on a master class. We watched Beheada with the viciousknockout. We watchedRobbie Lawler and Brian Barbarina beat the shitout of each other for however
13:17long that fight lasted. Like, you'reokay to criticize it, but if we'replacing the onus onsomebody, I feel like you have to put it on Canaan Airbecause he ain't getting another title shot.This is it. This is his one opportunityto get in there, M&M style,one shot, one opportunity.
13:33And he just fed right into Hadasani's game,which is really puzzling to me, becausewhen he actually was aggressive, helooked like he had a little bit of success there,just didn't happen for him on Saturday night.So here's, I mean, here's why people aren't,outside of the aforementioned stuff,that Izzy is the name,
13:49Izzy's the one to blame.Like, that's how,that's just how it flows is to the guy at the top.The reason people aren't blaming Canaanere,it's, one, he did try to be more interestingthan Izzy did.Like, I think objectively,he at least made more efforts,
14:05certainly as the fight went on.He did not do nearly what he should have.But he at least tried, like,The thing is he said it in his post fight,but he said it kind of not in the same way that I'm in the,like,I think it should be interpreted that.You know,
14:20people used to say that stuff by Anderson Silva and GSP.They did because they put on boring fights.And Anderson Silva and GSP did not come to the stage and say,well,love me and I,like,I don't care what you think,but actually you're an asshole if you think I'm boring.
14:37Like,that's not,they were just like,yeah,it was a tough fight.I did what I needed to do to win.and moved on with their lives, because that is the natural byproduct of this sport and excellence at it,where if your entire goal is to minimize risk, you are, by definition, not going to do the things that are the most exciting at all points in time,
14:59because even if it's finite, even if it's very, very small, you know, infinitesimalty small, it still opens up opportunities.but at the same time people are going to criticize youbecause if you look at that fight,it was very obvious that Izzy could have done more.He did not need to because he was winning.And so if you are just over there really excited about victory and numbers,like, cool, I don't know why you're a fan of this sport,but like, yes, you are technically winning this argument,
15:32but you're not winning the spirit of MMA because that is,he could have tried more, he could have done more,he could have put on more of a show,and maybe at a different point in his career,he might have done that because that was a thingthat he was more invested in.But again, it's a byproduct of how dominance and victoriesare rewarded in this sport.
15:51He's not going to step out of third gearwhen third gear is cruising comfortably to a win,and he's not the first, he won't be the last champion to do it.But you just got to take it on the chin, man,because, like, they are,real criticisms. Like, it's very real and it's extremely real and frankly also extremely real toconsider that like, I can't believe I'm about to do this. Oh. For all his faults and there are many.Connor McGregor has never once in his career cruised to a win. That man comes out to kill you.
16:34and I will argue that that is actually a substantially better and less risk-averse strategyor more risk-averse strategy than cruising in third gearbecause for however comfortable anybody feels,MMA it only takes a second and Jared Kennedy hits really hardand if Izzy had come out and just tried to stunt on himand blown his doors off in seven minutes,that's, you know, I'm not a math guy.that's 18 minutes less for Canaan E or two pull off the one-shot COU upset.
17:07Like there's a legitimate argument for that.And I don't know whether that's what the calculus Connor made early in his career or if he just said,dude, all of these people are not as good at me, even though that was wrong.I'm just going to come out and blow their doors off.And he did.And that, there are a lot of other reasons why Connor is where he is, you know.But he delivered.He talked a mass amount of crap and he almost always, especially in his rise,
17:32he always delivered.And that's how you get fans to buy in and to love you.And Izzy has been on the cusp of being a huge star,and he is still in context, a star in the sport.But the way you become the next level,that dude, that guy who can go be in movies and do all this other stuff,is talk all the stuff you talked about, Jared Cannon here beforehand,and then you deliver, you back it up.
17:59And he did it with Robert Whitaker,because Robert Whitaker gave him the fight he wanted to do that.with. He hasn't done it basically since then because nobody else is consenting to the fightthat's going to make him be a showcase fighter. But he has that in him. He could force people tofight fights that will let him showcase, but he won't. And that's, it's really frustrating alsofrom that in that standpoint to watch here, because he could be a huge star if he would just kindof get out of his own way and try to be one a little bit more. I feel like before we move on towhat this all means, I feel like
18:33Izzy needs a guywho's not going to kind of crumble under the pressure.And what I mean by that is, I feltlike Canineer was done on Wednesday.He went to that media day,didn't like the questions, and I'vesaid this a couple of times, I'll say it again,everybody wants to be the champion
18:49until it's time to become the champion.And you realize what that all means, the weightof all that, all the obligations,you got to sit up at a press conference when you don't want to,when you want to be focusing on the fight,and you have to do all these other things. And I felt likeCannonier showed up on Wednesday.It was like, okay, I think I know what's going to happen here.
19:05This is what life's going to be like.And then he was like, oh, this is not ideal at all.So we'll see what happens with Cannonier.But in the meantime, a guy who is not folding under the pressure at all in any way isAlex Paheta because this guy just doesn't let anything rattle him.Showed up at MSG, UFC debut has kind of a slowish start and then blows the doors offof his opponent.Then he gets a tough opponent, Bruno Silva, has a tough fight, gets through it.
19:34Then he fights Sean Strickland, and this fight became the biggest fight on the card.It became the most interesting thing all week.We don't like to talk about numbers and peek behind the curtain, but there was more interest on MAAfighting.com for Sean Strickland versus Alex Beheada than the main event or the co-main event.Just everybody, Sean Strickland did his thing, Beheada did this thing, his thing, and here we are.And Alex Beheada goes out there just bolt Sean Strickland.So now the story can be told to kickback.boxing fights, the knockout, et cetera. Here we are. Is this the guy to bring that out of Israel,Adasania? Now that he's got Alex Paheda, a guy who has two losses against in kickboxing,
20:11he's been knocked out by Alex Paheda in kickboxing, although the fights were competitive andclose if you actually watched them. As he was winning both fights. Is he should have won the firstone and was comfortably winning the second until he got killed? 100%. Is this the guy? Is this the guyto bring that out of Adasani? Is this the guy that can sort of step in in that,almost palo-coster role to not just go out there and get a win,but to make an emphatic statement.I don't know.I have a lot of questions about it.
20:40My assumption actually is no because the calculus hasn't changed.Like, is he still going to prioritize maybe more than ever prioritize a win over a performance.And the way he will prioritize a win is by, he's a better kickboxer.Like he's a better, more technically efficient and better kickboxer.boxer. He doesn't hit his hard, maybe isn't as tough. Um, and Bahaya is certainly not a badkickboxer by any stretch. The guy's a multi-division glory champion. He's a more pedigreekickboxer, uh, than Izzy. But it's, I have a sneaking suspicion that Izzy,is he has not wanted to engage with any dude who could functionally hit him hard.
21:26I honestly don'tlike Kelvin Gasolam was maybe the last personand it's not like Kelvin's an enormous puncherbut he hits hardthat was the last person I thinkis he was likecomfortable engaging withthat hit that hits hard
21:43because like Robert Whitakeris not a bad puncherhe's not a big hitterand he's still largely mostly didn't want to engage with himin that second fight the first one he just clobbered himcoming in a bunch and killed himhalf of honestly the Yan fight wasJan can check leg kicks at distance
22:00and that's likethat's Izzy's go-to weaponwhen you aren't just going to duck your headin charge and thenhe tackled him to the ground a bunchthe Yo-L fight which is stillto me one of the funniest fightsI've ever seen just ever
22:18it is hysterically funny to watch that fight backbecause it is exceptionally clearafter Izzy gets hit by the one right hand from Yowel early on.He's like, I'm just never going and punching distance of that dude again.No interest in it.And I kind of feel like Paheya has more acumen, more ability to force Izzy to be more active and do something.But like, I kind of think that largely Izzy's just going to point fight him again becausegetting into exchanges is not a path to success.
22:51Like, I mean, it could be because he can succeed now against anyone in the world.there's also the chancethat he just eats another big ass left hookbecause Alex Bahia, have you looked at that man?He is likedesigned by the gods to punch hard.His fists are enormous.They are like the size of toasters
23:08and he has go-go gadget armsthat stretch forever.That man is leverage and massand that's how force works.It is no surprise to me at allthat that dude hits as hard as he doesjust looking at him.He is built to clobber the brains out of people.
23:23So I hope so, man.I hope because he will not be disincentivized like Jared Kennedy was.He is going to scrap.He is going to try and find openings and he's going to throw a volume.And he's going to try and make it a fight.But I think that'll be one of those ones where Izzy really gets on his bike and wins like an awful.Like it not an awful because it will be good, but it will just be like, yeah, Izzy mostly kicked him a bunch and ran away and wasn't there to be.hit and Pahia maybe it's even shoot to take down which would also be hilarious so at this point
24:00I am twice bitten 18 times shy I will believe Israel Disney has a fun fight when he shows me as a funfight but if you can't pull out a James Irvin or something for him he's probably just going to dothis for a long time which is dominant but it's not making me tell my friends they need to cough up75 bucks to watch this yeah prayer is uh it is Pereira not pehedaI'm so used to.It's Perera?Okay.Yeah, it's Perera.
24:26So his translator actually came in and was like, hey, it's Perera.And I was like, oh, okay.But I'm just so used to saying the names like that.Like Carl, it's not Carlos Diego Ferreira.I don't pronounce R's anymore.Everything's a soft R.100%.100%.
24:43But Pereira is like the Brazilian Ivan Drago, like just not rattled, big power.You can tell it like a machine kind of makes him and creates him.what he is because he shouldn't be this good atMMA with this littleexperience. He shouldn't be here. Let's be clear.He might not be good at MMA.We have no idea if he's good at him or not.I don't think he is. I think he's good
25:05at punching people in the face and they haveexpertly booked him.He has really donea great job of slidingin there. But like I said beforehand,I still feel lessconfident just because, I don't know,killer knockouts always add
25:21a little question to you. But like, IMarvin Vittory just waxes him.So it's like,so Marvin Vittoria has a big blockheadand he's just going to come forward,pressure him, take him down, sit on him.Like that's just the thing he's going to do.And that's,
25:34but yeah,uh,maybe,I'm hopefully,hopefully he'll bring something out in Izzy because you're all right.This dude ain't shook for the,the difference between him and Izzy this past weekis really stark to me as far as like,
25:50who actually cares what people say about them and don't.because Alex Barrow does not care.That man clearly just does not.It's just like whatever, dude.And Izzy is all wound up in his own head now or something.And so he's mad at the journalists and the internet.Dude, I don't know.It's all real weird.
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27:01You mentioned that when the new MMA fighting rankings, the only rankings that matter come out,Israel Adisani is going to be your number one pound for pound guy.Yes, sir.He will not be my number one pound for pound guy.It will be the current reigning, defending UFC featherweight champion,Alexander Volcanowski after this performance against Max Holloway.This was a special showing.especially considering he basically fought 17 minutes with one hand
27:27and still put on that kind of performance,shuts out Max Holloway.I don't think anyone really expected a shutout like this.I still think people expected a big fight.There were so many people in Las Vegas who were saying,Max Holloway is going to win.He's got that fire.He's got that energy.
27:42He sold me.Holloway's going to not only,people say not only is Holloway going to go out there,he's going to go out there and finish Volkanowski.That did not happen.Al Jada Volkovsky gets it done, 50, 45s across the board.What an incredible performance.Why is Volkanowski not your number one guy?
28:00Why is Adasigning a guy, especially after what happened on Saturday?So Volkanowski is my number two, will be.And that was, I rigged the system a little bit for him to be up number two.He actually still should be number four.I do pound for pound rankings, basically a point system,taking into account what you've accomplished in your weight class.Who have you beaten?and kind of how those
28:24how those winsstand currentlybecause I view poundfor poundersa snapshot of the current momentso likeWolkenovsky hasfour top five wins
28:34at 145three of them are Max Hollowand one's Brian Ortegaand the rest of his resumeis Chen Sungwho I think we haveis a top 10 featherweightbut maybe he's top 15
28:45I mean that's likethat's the extent of itof his featherweight resumewhich is not badBy no means am I saying beating Max Holloway three times is not good.Jose Aldo? Come on.Jose Aldo is a Bantam way now.Okay.
29:00I do credit wins outside of like ranked competition outside of division,but it doesn't get as many points as doing it in your divisionbecause if you pound for pound battles as a divisional supremacy thing.And whatever and I'm honestly like I wanted to,I think I said in our in our thing,or like group slack or whateverthat I wanted to find a wayto break the system out
29:28to just lie to myselfand put him above Izzybecause Izzy's fight was boringand I don't want to reward boringnessbut here's who Izzy's beatenI'm going to use the UFC's rankingsjust for sake of simplicityRobert Woodick twice Jared Canonnier
29:42Marvin VittoriDerek BrunsonPaulo Costa that is one throughfive in the UFC's middleweight rankingsAlex Paheahe is numbersix on Strickland is seven and then you get on down Kelvin Gassum is 11 there but he has like five or sixI think he has five wins over top five opposition according to our rankings he's got anotherseveral of them tucked away for middle thing they talked about it afterwards like who else is there
30:11for Alexander Volkanowski to fight he's cleaned out his division actually no he's fought two dudes inthe top five of his division so he hasn't cleaned it out at all uh you know who has IsraelHe's absolutely cleaned out his division.He has beaten everybody to the point that we had to jerry rig a series of fights to get Alex Pahia to be a contender for him.Like that's just, and I'm going to reward it.Even if maybe it's not the most exciting, it is, it was dominant.It was unquestionably dominant.Jared Canaanier had zero moments where it looked like he was winning that fight.
30:43And dominance, duration, and, you know, wide level of opposition.Izzy has all of it.So he has to take my number one spot.Technically, Ustman and Inganu should be ahead of Okonovsky,but I gave Volko this little baby boost up just because it was such a good performance.But when Usman beats Leon Edwards next or end of this month, is that 30th?August.That's in August.
31:11Oh, that's August one.Okay, yeah.When Usman beats Edwards in August, he'll reclaim this second seed.and in GanoI'm docking in pointsbecause he doesn't get to fight until Januaryso I rigged the systemso Volt could be number two
31:26because if you're just doing iton like eye test, whateverI have absolutely no issueswith you calling him the top pound fighter in the worldI've thought Volk was a tremendous fighterfor a long time he's only getting betterabsolutely no issuesthe only thing I want to see
31:42I want to see him beat more people in his divisionI'm tired of him fighting Max Holloway 17 timesI don't give a, I do not care.I'll watch it, but I don't care about him going up to lightweight.Featherweight is a really fun, really exciting divisionwith a lot of prospects on the rise.Fight them, dude.Fight them.
31:59Fight other people and say the same one dude for three years.So what do we do here?A lot of people are saying Josh Emmettthought he was going to be sitting cage side for this fight.So you could do that.Yair's fighting Brian Ortega, July 16th.I feel personally that if Yayaeer wins that fight,it's going to be him and Volcanovsky next,
32:19depending on whether or not they shoot him up.But I mean, what else does Josh Emmett have to do?Because he, your eye favor on Sunday was pissed,was really pissed at apparently the treatment that Josh Emmett received on Saturday.But I don't remember anybody from the UFC brass saying,hey, Josh Emmett is the next guy.He's sitting Caged side and he's going to fight the winner of this fight.I don't remember anybody's side of Josh Emmett.
32:44Yeah, that's because they didn't because I agree.I think that they think, if the Ayer beats Ortega, that's the fight they're going to make.I feel pretty confident in that.Unless they just give him what he wants, because the commentary team really was setting it up,like we're just going to do Volk it lightweight, even though they honestly aren't a lot ofworse times to do Volk at Lightweight than right now, but whatever.So maybe they are just going to do that.Maybe that's why they short, shorted Josh Emmett, maybe Emmett has to fight the winner of
33:14Ortega Rodriguez for an interim belter.Something dumb.I don't know.But if Rodriguez beats Ortega, I think you do Rodriguez.I think that makes sense.But mainly because I don't think Josh Jim had actually beat Calvin Cater,but if we're going on the officials, he did.And so, yeah, I don't think he needs to do anything else for a title fight, though.
33:35I think he can just sit and wait.And that's because he should.He should be fighting for the belt.And that's the thing.If Alexander Volcanoz goes with delay, we'll have plenty of success.I'm not saying he won't.I think he'll beat a lot of top lightweights if you wanted to scrap.I'm not confident he would win the belt, but I do think Olivera presents a more winnable fight for him than some of the other ones up there.
33:56But I don't care because he's not a lightweight, unless he's going to go be a lightweight, and then I care all the cares.I have all the cares in the world if he's just going to say, I'm going to go be a lightweight.But I don't need multi-division champion defending belts across my leg.No, pick one, pick a lane, and be in it.And if you're going to leave featherweight, that's fine.Totally do that.I'm okay with it.Go chase your dreams lightweight.
34:20But part of it, you never see people,do you don't see Henry Suhudo saying,I want to go fight, you know, Max Holloway and then I'll fight Volk.You don't see Volk saying,I want to go beat up Justin Gaichi to get the right to challenge for a title.It's, I want to cut the line because I don't want to have to do the things everyone else doesbecause that's an easier way to a title shot.And I get that.
34:45I fundamentally understand that as an easierand some would argue justified way to view it.But I don't care.Like show me, if you want to do it, go up and fight somebodyand fight anyone and then prove to methat you are a winning lightweight and okay, let's give it a go.But that's not how the sport has worked since Connor broke it in 2016.It's probably never how it's going to work again.
35:07And so instead, there's a real world whereVolk's going to fight whoever, Islam or,Oliver orMichael Chandler, I don't know, is somehow in thetitle conversation. I can't figure thatout, but okay.They're probably going to let him do it, and inthe meantime, featherweight is going
35:26to have other young, exciting prospectscoming up in all jockeying position until we get alogjam, because it's what happens.When the champion does other things and doesn'tdefend regularly, you get a logjam ofwhat could be fun contenders, and it said it's like,all right, well, now we need, now we needFrancis Inganu and Curtis Blades to fight a second time because
35:47Steepa and D.C. are just holding the belt up,go and bring around the Rosie for a while.And now instead of getting both Inganu and Curtis Blades as fun title challengers,Curtis Blades is a lifetime away from a title fight because Inganu did end up winning thebelt.And so it's just like, no.Like what if everybody just stayed in their lane, defended their title and moved on?Because I'll close on this point.
36:11Volk is not the greatest featherweight of all time.He still has a lot of work to do in that regard because championships matter.Title defenses matter.Jose Althe defendant is about nine friggin times.Volk can go win a second belt, sure, that will not matter in my regards and in reasonable regardstowards your goat status, frankly.But what would if he just sat and defended his belt because it is impossibly difficultto defend your title time in and timeout?
36:36It gets harder each and every time.Volk is not the youngest dude in the world, even though he's getting better every time out.he has a finite window to defend his featherweight belt.That window is closing a lot quicker than I think any of us think.Because that window closed a lot quicker than we all thought it would on Max Holloway.It's just how this sport works.If I was in his corner, I would tell him, dude, you'll beat Josh Emmett.Go be Josh Emmett, be I. Rodriguez.
37:02Get Arnold Allen, like, stack up some names underneath you the way Demetrius Johnson did.And then you'll be literally an all-time, all-timer, instead of a good champion who has multipletitle defenses but ends up losing it because you took a failed attempt at 155 and gottackled to death by his own Makachev because mock will just roll him.So like, I don't know.I didn't like a lot of KB this weekend and all of their future plans, frankly.Fair enough.Yeah, I actually feel like if Volk's going to do it, do it now because I feel like the
37:36most interesting title defenses he's going to have are coming like a year and a half fromnow.when you get Mavzar of Loyaf, when you get Tuporia, Arnold Allen,when you get these guys going on just an incredible run.I'm super interested in Josh Amariari Rodriguez because they're different people.I think Volk wins.No, that makes sense.Volks fought the same dude so much.
37:58And yes, it's great.But I knew after the first one,the Volk was a better fight than Max,or at least that style was substantially more effective for him than it was for Max.But, like, Brian Ortega, that fight ruled.that fight was insane and awesomeand it was like the champ was inlegitimate danger
38:16and like that's like I want tosee that maybe Josh Emmett has that in himwho the hell knows dude hits hellhard and Volcan get hurtlike I want to see those fights I don't want to seehim just cut the lineof because the other end of it is155 is super log jammed
38:33already like there's so much goingon there right now because Oliver istrying to fight freaking Connor againand so it's just like dude Ito know who the actual best lightweight in the world is and I want the best featherweightto defending its feather weights. I want that kind of normalcy in my life.Please give me that instead of the endless masquerade of champ champs and money fights and all this.It's just exhausting.
39:00Yeah, 55 is crazy.Just find some neutral territory and just freaking Olivera Makachathev fight.Enough is enough.Don't do it in Abu Dhabi.Do it in Brazil.Do it in Brazil.Mokachachov said you go to Brazil.Mokachachos down.
39:11Do it in Brazil.If the UFC doesn't book that in Brazil,they have to just be doing something with Connor,which makes me sad.But like,doing that fight in Brazil seems to be the exact way to do this.Yeah,that's fine.
39:24I don't want to see it in Abu Dhabi.I don't think Oliver has any interest in fighting Machachep in Abu Dhabi.And if they offer him that fight,he should just say no,I'll fight the winner,not in Abu Dhabi.Yeah, so, yeah.So it's still going to be a cluster.
39:38And listen,Volcanowski's got options right now.If he wants to go to 55,I think the UFC will let him,but if he wants to stay a 45 and keep trying to rattle off these winsand try to catch Jose Aldo, he could certainly do that as well.Let's move on to another big story coming out of this card in the Bannamweight Division.We're all ready to see Sean O'Malley get his big test against a top 10 guy in Pedro
39:59Munoz.Absolutely fantastic matchmaking, at least on paper.We saw the first round how it plays out.Two of the judges give Pedro Munoz the first round.Then we get the eye poke.Munoz can't continue.Fight is over.O'Malley and Munoz have their moments in the octagon.
40:18O'Malley says he's sorry.Seems like cooler heads are going to prevail.Maybe we just go and run this back.John O'Malley doesn't seem all that interested in running it backbecause he claims it's a victory for himself,claims that Pedro Munoz agreed with a lot of people on Twitterthat he basically saw a way out and took it instead of taking an L.That's what a lot of people felt.
40:39Sean Amelie feels the same way.Henry Sohudo starts calling him out and says, you know, I'll take a, you know,I'll take a tune up fight with you and all that happened as well, which I actually thought,honestly, I thought that was the best thing Henry Sehudo has done since apparently doing thecomeback was they actually challenge somebody that doesn't have a title, which I actually,I actually like that.But be that as a May, if you're the UFC right now, yeah, if you, if you're the UFC right nowand you see how this all played out, are we just running this back?
41:11are we turning the page andwe have this in our back pocket?We can run this back,kind of like the Cheeto thing in a way.We can just rerun this back at any other point.Or do we just go back to this?Or do we go a different direction?Do we try to book O'Malley versus Sohudo?
41:25What do we do here?Depends on what they're trying to accomplish for Sean O'Malley.Because I honestly don't know.Sean O'Malley dropped out of my rankings this month after that fightbecause he was losing.He was not winning that fight.and sure there was a lot of time left in that fightbut what I saw made me
41:46substantially leftI've been high on him as a prospectbecause he's a really good offensive fighterhis defense isn't much as defense is that he's longbut offensively he's extremely potentand that can get you really, really farand I thought we'd mostly seen developmentand so it's like all right he's this
42:03this is going to be a guy who's a perennial top 10 dudehe still may be thathe had absolutely zero ability to answer what Pedro Munoz was doing.He had maybe who was going to find it in the second half of the fight,but Pedro Munoz just didn't engage with him.He stayed at range and kicked him in the leg a bunch,and Sean Malley couldn't do anything about it.He didn't have the tools to close that,
42:28to walk Munoz down effectively,to cut the cage on him,to get into the sorts of exchanges where he thrives and excels.and since Munoz wasn't giving him those,he was just kind of losing a not great fight.And I didn't see it changing.I did not see anything that looked like,oh, something really substantive here is going to break.
42:49And so that gives me a lot of concernsabout what O'Malley can be in the future.Because he's not young.He's not old, but he's like 27, isn't he?He's been in the UFC like six years.He's been around.This is put up shut up time.Like you got to start doing things and he's got the good wins.
43:07But like this is where he should be stacking the kind of title ascension wins, you know, to get into that conversation.And Munoz was supposed to be a guy for him to do that.And he, whether he was going to win or lose, he was not going to win in the way that he was supposed to win,which is in itself a not a great sign for him.So if you're still trying to be high on him, if you still think, hey, this guy brings a certain fan base,like this is still a dude we want to pushpromotionally. I don't think you run it back becauseI think Pedro Munoz might
43:39be a more difficult fight for him becausePedro really wanted to win and wasapproaching that fight incrediblysmart. But thenI don't know who you do. If I was meit was me because I don'tI don't understand Sean Amalityas a star. I accept that he is and that
43:54people care about him but I fundamentally do notunderstand why.I would just book him againstAdrian Yannes because that fight would rulelike that would be super funJanice probably kills himbut that probably would be incredibly fun to watchbut they probably won't do that
44:11he is I don't knowwhat'sI'm trying to think of somebody who likeis surely going to be a good win for himand to step upRob FontI don't say that you win that wayI don't know that's an interesting matchup for him
44:24Rob Font might be the best because he can beatRob Font I don't know that he will beat Rob FontRob Fonts jab may give him a lot of problemsbut and Rob Fonts also relative length as far as the division goes.But like you can't have him fight Ricky Simone.Like that would just be an awful fight for him.Yeah, they would have made that fight already if that was the direction.Yeah, you can't, you can't do that.
44:46You can't move him up.You can't really do the Cheeto because Cheeto's not going to take that fight at this point.It's a big step back for him.So yeah, I guess Rob Font is probably the right answer.Songy Dong would be fun, but also.killing offprospects isn'tthe best business strategy
45:06so yeah Rob Fontgive me Rob Fontthat seems okayyeah if they run it back coolthey could do fontsthey could do a number of different thingsthey could do SuhudoI actually don't mind the Suhudo one
45:17because I feel like it's a win win for the UFCbecause if he beats Suhuda it's a very big dealand if he loses you could chalk it up toI know he's not the youngest guy everHe never beat Suhudobut yes that is fairI don't think that fightsI don't think that just doesn't sound like something
45:33UFC will do, but like,mainly because I don't think the UFC wants to doHenry Suhudo favors.Like that is my interpretation of this situationis they are not opposed to him returning,but they are not going to help him in any capacity.And giving him a softball win over a big nameis probably helping him.
45:52So my guess they don't do that.But it wouldn't be awful from that standpoint.Yeah.They should just do Sehudo versus Peodor Yan,call it a day.that's the fight that should be made i don't think i don't think so hoot takes that fight no and he shouldn'the shouldn't take that fight if he gets a shot at o'malley that's that's the one if he can get shota molly instead of pejorie han but i think shahudoh is i still don't believe suhru's coming back
46:18yeah unless the uc is going to do him the favor of an immediate title shot i don't think he'scoming back which i don't think they will i mean at featherweight because i don't he keepspretending like he wants to ban awayI don't think he cares. I think he just wants to findAlexander Volkanowski. If they didn'tgive it to him in Jacksonville, they're not going to.I know he has to go through thewhole thing of the USADA testing pool,
46:40but they've given exemptions to people before.They really wanted to make that fight.They could have, and they chose not to.They went with the Korean zombie. Not that there's anything wrong with that,but they could have done the Suhudo fightright there and then, and they didn't do it.I can't wait until Henry Suhudo leavesour lives.
46:55Retire and do movies, like, don't surround anybody.Like, I just don't need your pretend wanting to fight and starting beef with, like, everyone.By the way, my favorite commenter is a guy named the Real Mike Heck,and his image is the guy from the middle.And by the way, I've been Mike Heck longer than that guy was Mike Heck, all right?So I'm the real Mike Heck, damn it.Or my dad is the real Mike Heck, the senior.So he's actually got me by 20-20-some year.
47:24I'm a junior.I'm a junior.Look at the Twitter.Look at the Twitter handle, bro.I have never noticed that.If that's in your Twitter handle, that has gone over my head.J.R.We'll see what happens.
47:35Listen, if they want to run back to Pedro fight, cool.But even after all this, O'Malley has options.And that just shows that the way that they view O'Malley,and I just feel like the way that Pedro Munoz has been treated through all of thisis just been horrendous.It's been really awesome.And then he goes on the MAA hour yesterday,And he could have just blasted everybody.
47:56And he was like, nah, he's just the nicest guy.Yeah, Pedro's Salt of the Earth and fans can be dumb.Especially, it really feels like fans of,there's a, there's the Venn diagram of fighters I don't likeand fans of theirs that I don't like is a perfect circle.It's just like, yeah.Yeah, of course you'd be a fan of this dude.If you think Pedro Frick and Munoz is faking an eye injury,
48:23you nerds.I will say in theirvery, very slight defense,this is not a condemnation of PedroMunoz because it just sort ofhow it breaks down or whatever.It is in fact a really bad lookto when a doctor is asking you about
48:39can you see in your eye.For the first thing you say isthat's the second time.Like it's when one, it isn'tsecond time.This is the first time.But it's just the optics of thatwere really, really bad of
48:53can you see?Ah, he parked me in the eye already.Like he did it before.Like, that's, that's not the answer that anyone, that anyone of a certain range of, of IQ points is going to hear and be like, yeah, that's just a thing they say.It's going to immediately be like, oh, he's looking for a way out.Fighters don't look for ways out, guys.They, they, I can think of a handful of times when a fighter legitimately like was afraid of someone and didn't want to fight him or,quit in the middle of the fight.
49:26Diego Sanchez took a DQ loss.He wanted a DQ win.That's like one of the only timesin modern history that I will say,yeah, a fighter for sure just took the dobs.And remember the reaction from that?Oh, veteran move.I mean, that's what it should be.
49:45It is.I mean, because again, I think Pedro should have faked itand been like, that was intentional.Give me my, because Sean O'Malley,Sean O'Malley should have lost that fightbecause he poked him in the eye.You know who didn't poke who in the eye?Pedro didn't poke Sean in the eye.
50:00Somehow both of them,both of them suffer because Sean O'Malley cheated.Inadvertently or not,he did a thing that you are not legal allowed to do.That's called cheating.And one of them did nothing wrongand one of them did all the things wrong.And somehow this really great system we have
50:16punishes both people equallybecause we don't feel like he meant to cheat.I'd stillstill very stupidI hate how DQ rules workas we said many timesuntil the rules changeuntil the referees start to step it up
50:32just cheat your ass offcheat your ass up because nothing's ever going to get calledsomebody cheated this past weekend brilliantlyI'm trying to remember who it wasI can't remember it tooI'll think of itbecause I definitely said it at the timeI was like oh this person
50:47very geniusly cheated in a fight they are looseit might have an Ian GaryNo, not even Gary.It might have been Drick's Duplice in that first roundwhen Brad was kind of getting the better of him.Did he like kick Brad low?Yeah, there are a few fence grabs too.I think it was Dracus Duplice
51:07who did a little bit of,a little bit of extracurriculars in a veteran moveand totally support DDP.Way to go, buddy.Yes, there's a good night for the middle-aid division.DDP shine.Entrimanis might just be like the guy.Oh, he's a dude.
51:23Yeah.Would you care to guess how high I have in my middle ranking?I got to take a sneak peek year rankings.Yeah, because I filled mine out too.And I was just like, wow, you are insane.I'm going to say you put him like number four or something up in that neck of the woods.He's, he's, we still have some time.I hate he's at five right now behind Johnny Ebbling, but I may bump him in front of Johnny
51:47Ebblin.Yeah, I think I got him up there pretty out.I considered three.I considered putting him behind Bobby Knox.I'm just being like, screw it.Let's run it.Dude.Some of my rankings this month are,
51:58are saucy.I'm on one this month.I think you just did that just so they invite you on the ranking show so you can try to defend yourself.I really did it.My lightweight rankings,I just got fed up with that division and said,I'm clean in half.I'm done with this garbage.
52:15Let's rank the actual best lightweights in the world,not a bunch of old dudes who are squatting on rankings,fighting each other in a circlethat then never giving contenders a shot.I love people are like,oh, you beat your eye halls,you're not a top five guy.He beat the hat.
52:32I mean,he ran over your eye haul.I mean,there was not one point in that.I mean,there was a moment like the end of the second roundand things got a little dicey,but he made a mistake.
52:40I don't even think that got dicey.I,whenever something like that happens,I always should think like,he literally heard the clapperand was like,I don't care.It's like,
52:50I gave up position.I'm not going to do it.anything for 10 seconds. I'm just going to put my hands over my face and we'll be at the end ofthe round real fast because I heard the clap for like five minutes, five seconds ago.We also had two retireans, Jessica I and Donald Seroni. So happy trails to both of them.Jessica, who knows, she might do pro wrestling. She might take the fleece Herrig route and maybeshe ends up at BKFC, but she basically was just like, nope, I'm not getting the boot. I'll leave on my own.So responsible. Responsible choices from both of them. Good, good careers.
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53:52champions or something, but like, you know, so it's not the same. It's not the same as knowing that I'mfighting for the World Championship Belt. I am one of, I am at the bare minimum, one of the fivebest fighters in the world, and I have the chance to prove that I am no doubt about it, the bestin the world. It's an unbelievable accomplishment. Both of them had it. So good, good on them.At Desjardin, we speak business. We speak startup funding and comprehensive game plans. We've masteredmade to measure growth and expansion advice,and we can talk your ear offabout transferring your business
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55:10Holiday Insiders Report. Please feast responsibly. We'll do like a little bit of a potpourri roundto wrap things up. We got to talk about UFC Vegas 58. It's going down this Saturday. We're kind ofdude the main event's real good is it notRaphael versusRaphael this is a big fightthis is a big fight this is a big fight this is a big onefor RDA it's a huge one forfor Zeeve this is like the perfect
55:33next step up isn't it? You're hiding yourface and I love this fightit's a very good fightI am legitimately excited and interestedin it and if you've listenedto No Betts Bardit's great podcast on the MMA Fighting Podcast Networkyou should go check that out drop last night
55:48you will already have heard this speechso I apologize to youfor those of youwho are up on topof your MA fighting podcast streams.This fight bothersthe holy hell out of mebecause it is
56:00the stupidest thingthat the UFC can't do things better.They are ostensiblya promotion.A promotion's job is to promoteto get peopleto draw interest to their product,to get eyeballs to tune in.
56:16This is an eventthat for being honestprobably you shouldn't exist.Like they probably shouldhave taken a week off.International Fight Week is last week.It's the biggest weekend of the year for the UFC to the Hall of Fame.There's an overload of UFC last week.
56:30Next week, they're going to Long Island, then it's London, then we've got anotherpay-per-view.It's a big spread.So this is the card that is going to be forgotten.And so you could probably just not have one.Like you can just, hey, we're going to take a week off, and then we're rolling into Long Island.Hell yeah, let's get ready.Instead, they give us a card.
56:49Okay, fine.having fights is always at least a good option for us to have so if you're a fan you got nothing to doSaturday great you can watch these fights but make people care because this fight has a bakedin storyline it's baked in because literally raphael fazeve called for it he called out RDA by sayinghey there are two of us in this town with the name hafael and this division ain't big enough for theboth of us. So let's fight over it.And instead of the UFC doinganything fun about this, they just
57:25rolled out a poster, put them at the topof it, here we go, here's another12 fights for your Saturday, we'rejust churning through them, churn it through them, churn into,like make things stand out,make things interesting and fun.This is, what I pitched all,like, all just off the top of my head, but I actually
57:41have come around to decide that this is the best idea.Make this for the golden name tag,a golden Hafeel name tagthat's on the line.and do something fun and interesting.Like, be interesting.Be interesting.It's not that hard to just try, to be interesting,
57:58especially when the fighters themselvesare spoon-feeding you things.It infuriated me when Gaci and Eddie Alvarez foughtfor the most violent fighter on the world thingthat they cooked up between themselves.And the UFC didn't do shit with that.They could have made a crown of thornsor anything cool and been like, hey, this is it.
58:16And you don't have to just make one for every fight.not saying figure out a promotional gimmick and throw it at every fight because 40 of those is a lotof those and we don't need that every year but when they're there take them you did it with the bmf beltyou can do it with this and say hey they're fighting for the thing and you can even up the stakes in thestupidest but most compelling way by saying you get the golden name tag they get to wear it it's like achain you know like a turnover chain in football they get to wear it for all their future fights withor Raphael, and from now into eternity, unless they rematch,the UFC can no longer call him Rafael Fazeve or Rafael D'Aourgso.
58:58It's just Dosangros or Fiziv or RDA.Like you don't get to you, for all their promotional things,just be like, no, your name is gone.You guys are fighting over the naming rights and this.They could change it on EA UFC 4, so it's just R Dosangios or whatever.Like, you don't have to do it.You can be fun and interesting.interesting. You can like your job and want to excel at it instead of just stamp, move on,
59:23stamp, move on, stamp, move on. Got to get to 42 because that's when the paycheck from ESPN comes in.And so this event frustrates me to no end because it was a freaking softball to be cool.And they couldn't even pretend to be. They didn't even like, I'm not looking at the poster,but it's not Battle of their Raphael's on the poster, is it?No. Yeah, they didn't even do that. Like literally just a minimum amount.There's no Raphael to be found.Yeah, that's the worst title ever.Battle of the Halfails.
59:50Like, that's it.Bam.That's at least something, a slight step towards interesting and giving a shit about your job and taking pride in your work.And they're just, they're just cranking them out because they've got to get to 42.And it sucks.It's so lame and it bothers the hell out of me every time I think about this fight.It's a good fight.It's a great fight.
01:00:10Yeah.I think Gardia has a really good chance to win, honestly.Yeah, he's a lot.He's a very live underdog in this fight because he was a much bigger favorite than I thought he was going tobe spending his minus 2-10 the lastthe last I looked yeahit's uh because he does really cool shit in the cageyou know he gets all matrixy
01:00:24um he picks fights with Connorbecause Connor doesn'tknow how axe kicks workwhich is real weird um you knowit was he's he's fun he's dude he is avery fun fighter ifthe best outcome is for him to winbecause RDA's past his prime we don't
01:00:41need another old dude coming up the topof that division so let the new blood winbut RDA is stillIt's a tough out.It'll be a really tough fight for Fisiv.Love the fight.Can't wait to see what happens.Can't wait to see if this fight gets extended,
01:00:54which if I'm RDA,I mean, you want to try to get him out of there early,but getting this to the fourth and fifth round,really interested to see what Fizib looks likewhen he gets to the championship rounds.Kyle Baralio is getting a second straight co-main event.It gets Armin Petrosian,Said Naraga, Madoff is back.
01:01:10They must really like Kyle Baralio.And I think he's a good prospect,but like they must really like him to be giving him this feature.this heavy this early.Yeah.We get Saeed back and the Jedd-Mishu special, Jared Bandera versus Chase Sherman on the main card.I cannot believe, I don't want to go into it too much because we spent way too much time talking about our no-bets bard.I cannot believe that this fight is on the main card.
01:01:32I cannot believe this fight is even happening in the UFC.These dudes are 0-3 and 0-and-4 in their last fights respectively.What the hell are we doing here?And neither of them are prospects.Like Vandera's, I think, 30.So, like, theoretically, he could maybe get a ranking someday,just because of the way heavyweight works.But, like, dude, what the hell are we doing?
01:01:54Why is this?Why is this awful, awful fight on a UFC broadcastin the year of our Lord 2020?Massive fight for Cynthia Calvio.Definitely needs a win against Nina Nunes,who's bumping up to 125.I mean, that's the biggest fight on the card outside of the main event.Yeah, Michael Johnson, Jamie Mularky's got to be bananas.
01:02:12Really like that one.Yeah.Ricky Terseos, getting back in.there, a ticket on Amon Zahabi, Antonina,Chofchenko, Courtney Casey, Cody Bundas,Trashon Gore.That fighting going to the judges.Yeah, 100%.
01:02:24David O'Nama staying on the card,fighting Garrett Armfield, who I'm very excited,finally gets his shot in the UFC.Unfortunately, he's got to go up a weight class.He's good, Florida kid.Fought a lot for Shamrock FC, good fighter.Usually abandon weight.He has fought Onama before,
01:02:40and they had a close decision fight,which I believe was won by Onama.Kennedy and Chichuco, Carmen Wilbertsin.In my opinion, the lowest, yeah, and the lowest of the low-key bangers,Ronnie Lawrence, Sadiqqqq Rahmana.That fights could be ridiculous.Fights very fun as well.Yeah, so if you got nothing to do on a Saturday and you don't have just a gigantic UFC 276 hangover,
01:03:04watch this card.Look, all the fights are competitive.Like, every one of the fights, and I mean, the odds reflect it.Most of them are pretty close.if you're just looking for competitive scrapsthis should be decentif you're looking for name valuethat this ain't it dog
01:03:18but some peoplewho might do some thingsI'm coming around on the ideathat Kennedyin Chiku isactually like maybe going to be a real problemhe's just so big Mikehe's just so big
01:03:33he's the largest man aliveso yeahI mean there's some prospects heresome you knowthe main event's good. It's not an awful card.Not bad at all.All right. If you guys got like just random potpourri questions,sir them up.
01:03:51Jimmy Flick's coming back, Jed.This might be the shortest retirement in the industry.15 months. He's back.That's definitely not the shortest retirement.It's one of the shortest.I mean, it's not long, certainly,but there's no chance that's the shortest retirement.One time,
01:04:07honestly, I think the best thing Tito Ortiz has ever done,in his entire career is retiring, but saying he was retired, but he was still going to fight.I forget the exact quote, but I wrote it.And like, it is paraphrased slightly.Yeah, I'm definitely going to retire.I mean, I might still take some, I'm definitely retired.I may still take some fights as they come, but like, I'm for sure retired.It's like, you're an absolute hero, Tito.
01:04:34I don't think you know what retired means.What was your question, Mike?Something about Jimmy Flick?Yeah, he's good, I think.I mean, good for him.He, sure.He's a great, great name.He, he, he's a new, he hit the flying triangle choke, right?
01:04:58On Cody Darden.On Cody Darden.Yeah.Yeah.I mean, that was sick.So, yeah, good.We'll see.I mean, I doubt he's going to, like, make real noise or whatever, but fine.
01:05:10Love the name.Love fun names.They're at least interesting.Jimmy,that's a wreck flick.I mean,it's not a bad choice.It's a good name.
01:05:21Do we have anything else to?Well,I'm concerned because here in the low country,as you know,we,the weather forecast say it's going to be sunnyand breezy and a nice dayand all of a sudden
01:05:33we get a whole bunch of freaking storms.Afternoon thunderstorms.No, but I think we're hanging on here.We're hanging on.Afternoon thunderstorms.We're hanging on.That is.my entire life growing up, you could just, in high school, my job was, I was a lifeguard,
01:05:48a private country club.Outside of this job currently, the best job I've ever had, unbelievably fun.Got paid pretty good money for high school and I just sat at the pool all day.And we had adult swim on the hour for 15 minutes every hour.And every day during the summer, you were basically guaranteed to get a 32 hour and a half long breakbecause at some point a thunderstorm was going to roll in for 20 minutes.Lightning Flash.All right, clear the pool.
01:06:18Nobody swimming for a lot.It's like clockwork.Best job I've ever had outside of MMAFighting.com, the best website in the world.Before I came with M.A. fighting, I freelanced MMA for a year.I told my wife, give me a year.If I don't get a job, I won't cover it anymore.So I had to, obviously, if you freelance, you make no money at all.So I made very little
01:06:40PA announcer for a minor league baseball teamand they had a sundayevery single game.When the sun peered over center field,it would stop the game and a sun delay.Yes,a sun delay.Every single game.
01:06:56What is it because like the batter couldn't seebecause the sun?Yeah, pretty much.Okay, I just like,I don't understand what that would be the only thingthat would make sense to me.But okay.And that it became a thing.
01:07:07That's awesome.Yeah, they would celebrate it.Yeah, they played games.games on the field and all that stuff.It's like the same thing stretch.Yeah.It was like 30 to 45 minutes every game and there are certain things times where I'm like,I just want to like go home.
01:07:19You know what I mean?Oh, yeah.I don't want to go home.I don't need a sun delay.I don't need a sun delay.I mean, that's just how that goes.Yes.I think we're done here.
01:07:28I think we're done here.I think you're done here.Listen, we got a.Yes, Jed.Hey, that's the real Mike Heck Jr.The real Mike Heck Jr.That's hilarious.The janitor, Ian Eitor.
01:07:47That's super funny.Wow.Well done.You win the game.Maybe you are the real Mike Heck Jr.After changing everything like that.So preview show tomorrow, 3 p.m. Eastern.We will preview this card a little more in depth.
01:07:59UFC Vegas 58.We'll have People's Free Fight Show on Saturday as well.Heck of a morning back again tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. Eastern.Thanks for everybody for jumping on that.Well, post-fight show, onto the next one, all that fun stuff.A lot of people asking when we're going to cover events again.I have no idea.Jed and I might be a tag team in something in the first week of August.
01:08:21Big event.Big event.You guys, I'm sure you've all been circling your calendars for it.So we won't spoil anything, but big event.Maybe the biggest event that's happened in months.Perhaps the BMF champion might be promoting an event right down the road.Jorge Masvidal.So we might make something happen there.
01:08:45Maybe we'll play some golf.We'll play some golf and go cover some MMA.That's fun.We'll cover regional M.A.Who doesn't love regional M.A?Hey, that's how we all get our start.But we're out of here.For Jed, I am Mike Keck.
01:08:57Thanks for watching, everybody.Appreciate you jumping out.Casey back next week, so the show looks a little bit more professionalfrom a video standpoint.Hopefully we have an actual battle going on.But until that, everybody, thank you very much.See you back next week.Between the Lakes.
01:09:09Good night.everybody.
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