MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 37 (w/ Volkan Oezdemir, Myles Price)

Episode Date: May 28, 2019

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Volkan Oezdemir discusses facing former training partner Ilir Latifi at UFC Stockholm. Also featured, Myles Price targets his next Bellator outing and reacted to Peter Queally’s comments regarding their Dublin grudge match. Peter Carroll and Niall McGrath look at the latest European headlines. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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today and get zero-dollar delivery fees on your first three orders. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. Service fees exclusions in terms apply. Back again, it's the renegade monsters. It's episode 37, a Eurobush. And here we go again. We're in the middle of a tropical rainstorm here at the moment. Far from the sunny shores of Ireland we saw last week. Summer is coming, Peter. Oh, my, man, I thought I was going to write that car off on the way. Oh, that was crazy.

Hailstones in May only in Ireland's. Yeah, it's a beautiful, disgusting day. I'm in a pair of shorts, how look. Yeah, I mean, we had a bit of a light weekend on the MMA action front, so we probably were not going to be as, the episode won't be as long this week because we won't have to go through all the U.S. There was no cage, whereas no case. It was nice, though.

And I think, you know, we talked about this. I think it will be great if the UFC, you know, and I've said this for a long, long time, they cut so many cards down. And it benefits the fighters also on the card. It puts more eyes on them if there's more time and build up to a fight card. If they actually build up. Yeah. I didn't really see much build up for UFC Stockholm over the weekend.

Yeah, no. Yeah. Like I wish there was another like two or three weeks off before this two, three A card as well, the week after. so it's just a good thing and I think you know the UFC obviously needs stars so I think it'd be a good thing if they just did this more frequently and not had so many events

but despite despite the uh the lack of action going on I was very busy this weekend and with Patty Hulan as he got elected and we'll talk about that bit later what an amazing feat that is for the jokes 10-1 do you reckon they vote me

and then this side of the pond do you just have similar followings like I'd say I'm lapea I'd say like you know you're both considered Irish MMA legends, you know? Oh, yeah, that's true. All right, well, we'll get on to Patty in a second. Let's look at these headlines.

A picture of Connor McGregor appeared last week with his patented left hand in a gauze and some cast. Erilowani tweet an update about it. I think he's looking towards the end of next year. You know, I kind of got a few whispers about this, and I couldn't confirm it. It's very hard to confirm anything, and that's why I was kind of on the A side that time,

I was kind of saying looks towards the end of 2019, I'd say. And I think that does make sense with Khabib fighting in September. And, you know, from that Tony Robbins interview, Connor did, that got a lot of traction. He kind of seems to have acknowledged that he won't get the next crack at Khabib. And so I reckon December is likely, you know. I don't know if it's likely, but it's probably more, more likely. Yeah, I agree. first of all

what did you think of the interview because I'm sure I think this was done last month it was yeah it was done last month early April or something

and a lot of reaction to it I think it's kind of rough as well that it was recorded like a month ago and now people are kind of taking it up now and kind of discussing

what was said but one thing I know is about it and actually they did a great job on the MMA beat of breaking this down Luke Thomas Chuck

Danny and Brian Mr. Boom himself who was involved last week They were kind of talking about Isn't it interesting to see the fan whooping and yelling When he's talking about how he won the fight and stuff Like I mean it's very clear that the casual interest Is still rightly on McGregor And he's kind of trying to tell this story

About why he should have won He had an injury He prepared wrong He was too defensive But the reaction to the crowd in that room They were all eating it They were all eating it up like hotcakes They were definitely

and that was, you know, it's just sort of Connor's persona and, you know, that's not gone away. He needs to retell the story, basically, to sell it. I think it's very interesting that and, you know, maybe more so in the United States, his popularity is still where it was and not so much in Ireland. I think that's very evident that his popularity isn't as strong in Ireland as it was. A lot of people have gone off and from, obviously, you know,

the various ups and downs of what's gone on. The Bellator, you know, the UFC events, all that sort of thing. You know, he's retracted a lot of those statements and things like that, but it is, you know, and that's where I think he's still a vital part for the UFC of all he said, as I've said in recent weeks with his TV deal, obviously going ESPN online and this subscription service. You know, he's the one going to pull names in. He's still very much that guy in the States in the terms of UFC.

So, yeah, no, that was interesting to me. But the more interesting part of that interview I found was, that he more or less said he was saving himself for another day. Yes, yeah. I did pick up on that as well. But, you know, there were so many different bits that we didn't go with it in the end. But I saw a Pundit Arena ran a piece on it. And, you know, and it is.

It is a... Because it was a phase crank. And we often talked about that. The position would have gotten worse for Connor. You know, you could see... I remember he was in the sort of a fetal position before Habib actually took his back. Really interesting. like, you know, it was sort of a phase crank, and he tapped.

He realized that he was not going to win that fight at that point, and I think, you know, maybe a sensible thing for Conor to do. Yeah, I mean, there is, it's not as punished in our sport as it is in boxing, say, when you have a quit, they call it a quitter in boxing. It's kind of, it's so, like, you get slated for your whole life when you do that, but there is so many outs in MMA, and I don't know, you know, this lift a fight another day, he's in the heat of the moment, but he's talking and stuff, and I was actually talking to Sean Sheen

and he made a really good point to me. He was like, do you remember in the documentary, right, that Graham and the guys did? And after the Nate Diaz fight, he's sitting there and he's calling himself, you tapped you're a bitch or something, he's talking to himself. And he's like, you know, Sean's like,

it's kind of like that moment, isn't it? Because you're seeing him kind of acknowledged that. It is, but maybe there was an acceptance after the Habib fight in terms that, you know, if you compare to the Diaz fight, the Diaz fight, he was in probably more of a precaution,

various position and you know you probably would have expected him to top whereas Habib it didn't really look like oh no that looked through that looked really for me no no I'm saying no when he had the face crank on you wouldn't expect him to tap from that I don't know man yeah well it's hard to tell from them because sometimes like they're actually driving your chin into your neck so it's like you can be it's going to be a blood choke as well it just doesn't look like one I don't really know but it is an interesting thing of what you're saying I do agree that that was a big point like when he said that I was like whoa yeah yeah no I was listening to where you're sitting now.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a bit weird. Yeah. Feed me more of this. But look, I think, I think the big takeaway for me is when this man wants to retell a story, everybody wants to listen. You could tell to the people in that room were fully, they were like, let's do it again, you know.

But do people want to listen in Ireland as much? I don't think so. No, and it didn't really get a lot of traction over here, I know. Yeah. You know, apart from the Pund Arena articles and stuff. And when they put them out, they were out first in fairness. They were the first articles I saw about it. And then after that, I saw the tabloids going to picking it up.

but yeah interesting and another thing I do agree with you though about the end of the year I think that makes sense and of course Ariel's tweet also highlighted

that he is having that contractual situation over the subscriptions and we predicted that yeah you know I think he did anyway I think he noted that in this week Aritam and Polly

got into it when we were recording last week's episode so we didn't see it until it was over I actually remember I was leaving and you were like whoa what's after happening here Pauli Malenaggie spat

on Aritam Loboff now what I'll say to you is you have never been a fan of Bernuckle. You have not been a fan. But this is hugely, hugely polarising and it's hugely hugely popular. Like, I mean, people are talking about this right in my group of friends that have absolutely no interest in the week to week. MMA events. So lads in the office, we're all talking about it.

Yeah, and I mean, here's the thing, right? Artem hasn't really done anything wrong here. Like, I mean, but Polly is kind of shaping this as boxing v. MMA. and Paulie's an idiot. I have a feeling that it's really low in the tone for boxing for a little. Like, I mean, if he's fighting the corner of boxing, he's spitting on people, talking about pissing in people's mouths. Like, I mean, that's pretty bad.

Yeah, no, it was, you know, to spit in anyone is the lowest thing. And I said that to you last week. It's absolutely vile. It's grotesque. And you can talk about selling fights all you want. But to stoop that low and actually spit in someone's face, it's the biggest insult you can ever pay a man.

And, you know, the guy's a clown. and I don't like the guy. I think he's always brought this MMA versus boxing thing into it. He was talking about that. All MMA fans are idiots and all this sort of stuff. And he's the one bringing this narrative up time after time after time. He's done loads of boxing interviews in the bill up to obviously Mayweather McGregor. And was an analyst obviously on that as well.

I'm saying obviously a lot. One thing I wanted to say to you, is he at risk of losing that analyst position by behaving like that? Yeah. He should be severely reprimanded for actions like that. But it is a separate contract. It's a different life, basically. It is. It's a different revenue stream.

It is, but I'm sure there, you know, from his employer's point of view, it's gross misconduct to behave like that in the public life, I would imagine. Definitely won't do them favour, you know. Exactly. And to do something like that, and as I said there, along the lines of when he was in the bailout, he kept on bringing up that narrative. It was like he was jealous that Connor McGregor was coming in. And obviously they sparred together and we saw that footage and things like that.

We'll hear about it forever. It is absolutely, you know, it's just a furring for a guy to behave like that. I was really angry when I saw him spit on a lot of people. A lot of people were. And I will say this again, I believe this is working in Artem's favour so much, man. He's becoming the guy. And this is what Polly basically asked for when he went down the boxing v. M.A. road. People in M.MA are lifting Artem up now.

Like, they want to see him going and take Polly's head off. And listen, and I think we talked about this as well. last week when we were off air we were just watching him hitting the microphone as well which is actually quite amusing. I find that quite funny when he just popped him there. Man, I was pit. Yeah, it annoyed me.

It did annoy me because he's a plonker. No, but like Artim's face probably isn't like, you know, all there from his last fight still and he's cracking him with metal objects. Like, I mean, is this classic bait in going to fight aggressively? I think it actually works in people's favour to fight aggressively.

That's literally, I was right to say, because, you know, Pauley's always had problems with his hands. he's broken his hands multiple times over his boxing. He's not known as a knockout puncher, you know? He's not a powerful puncher. Yeah. He, you know, Ricky Hatton was landing like a bloody dagger on him,

and Ricky isn't the hardest hitter either. So, yeah, and I noticed that about barrennuckle boxing. We've obviously seen it in the last Arndtem fight when he fought Jason. You know, technique goes out the window a lot of time. And that will definitely work in R&M's favour. I think Pauley, obviously, you know, people are going to go with the technical edge, but he doesn't pack a punch. Yeah.

So that's where I think Artham could really catch him. If Pauli goes in with that attitude as well, he's just, you know, he's just going to go off his game plan. And that could really work in Artham's favour, as you said. But it seems to be harder to get a clean chaos with bare-knuckle than it does when you have a glove on. Probably just about the kind of the measured kind of distance your kind of corner there, like the way the way the letters hit and you, it's kind of spreading the volume of the punch over more of an area. But, you know, I think it's compelling in the way that, you know, Polly obviously is a more regular. regimented boxer, he's more better fundamentals. And if this goes the distance and he's having success just touching him, that could really

open up a face. I'm just not comfortable with the whole bare-knuckle thing anyway. And I think, you know, probably for Aritam to get back in there so soon after that, absolutely hideous face that he had after that, Jason. He's a manse. He is, yeah. I'm not saying he isn't, but, you know, I'd like to see, I just don't like this sport. Do you think it's going to have a negative.

impact on MMA. That's always been your key for it. Yeah. That's why I'm annoyed about when we're trying to

legitimize a sport like mixed martial arts which obviously isn't even you know regulated in our island here and then we've a lot of MMA outlets you know covering this

so I can understand you know two big names. This is the biggest fight of June it's going to you know it really is like I mean

in terms of it's a bigger fight in June than any other MMA fight anyway. Yeah I agree with that like yeah it probably is I'm seeing more traction for this fight than I am

for Tyson and Fruries next fight. Yeah but we're we're we're we're we're can't in our own sport by getting behind this, I think. It just goes back to the barbaric sort of level of, you know, when mixed martial arts was in its early days

and there was no way classes. I know, but we would have criticised people for talking about MMA like that back then. It's a different sport. It is a different sport. I'm not, I don't disagree with you. Yeah, the crossover thing sort of annoys me and I just don't, I just don't like it. It doesn't see it well with me. You know, it just shines a bad

light, you know, obviously the perception as well. I know that's something we've battled with for years as well, but when you see guys with faces like that, you know, on a regular basis. It's not just one or two fights. There's plenty of fights. Yeah, it's shocking for people, you know. It is shocking, and it's... But do you want to see that?

Here's the question. Are you going to watch that fight? Probably not. What do you mean? Probably not. Or no? I've taken a stance that I've, you know, I've watched sort of highlights and stuff. I'll definitely watch it. I'll probably will listen. It just doesn't sit well with me.

Really, I won't see me tweeting about it. You won't see me, you know, even here. I just, I don't even really want to talk about it, to be honest with you. Like that's how sort of much. And listen, a lot of fighters have reached out to me as well and they totally agree with me.

I put up a tweet a number of weeks ago before that fight, before Artem's fight against Jason Knighton, you know, a number of well-known people on this side of the pond are totally against it as well. And that helps.

I think it actually helps when it's so polarizing. It does. Like, I mean, as much as you were making a very serious point that you have, that also feeds the... Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it's... I know it's a two-ed sword. Yeah, you just, you want to put it out there yeah yeah this is how I feel about it you want to go boom that's my line on I can't wait for it anyway Fabian Edwards has signed a new

I grew up this way Fabian Edwards has signed a new deal with Bellator and he will be facing Jonathan Bassocu who's on a five-fight win streak in at Bellator London but I can tell you straight away as soon as I broke the news of this fight everybody saying where's the step up

as you said you know where is the step up here and I mean I understand Fabian 7 and O and he's had trouble getting people to fight him in the past but when you see Costloving Steena's and Mike Shipman on that card you're kind of going you know was there there I don't know obviously Fabian wants these big challenges he's always saying he does but certainly I don't think people would see Jonathan would all do respect as much of a challenge as we said Lee Chadwick that's where that's where the measuring stick is going to be set here now we need a step up from Lee Chadwick and his last fight wasn't that either against Falconeetto you know yeah but

You see that, and we mentioned the Lee Chadwick fight there. You know, Lee's a very well-respected guy here. Maybe, as you just said two minutes ago, that people just won't want to fight him. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes in terms of guys turning down fights. Yes. It's incredibly difficult to keep track of that for a bar point. But Fabian's constantly said that. And, you know, to go out and destroy a guy like Luke Chadwick and the way he did.

Luke Chadwick's a football player. Sorry, Luke Chadwick. Lee Chadwick. Lee Chadwick. I'm thinking of a man, United player. Lee is far better looking than Luke Chavick. Yeah, that is true. It was incredibly impressive.

And I'm sure that's going to put a lot of people off. Because, you know, we've seen Lee, obviously, beforehand. And then afterwards coming out and beat Mulherran. Like, that's, like, a very underrated fighter. That's what I mean. So it could be a point here where he's not being able to get these fights. Guys don't want to fight him. So he has to settle for something and just stay active.

And maybe this is why he's taking this fight. I do feel, though, him being on that Bellator London card is very important. with Shipman and Van Steves being there. I feel like they need to match him with the winner of that fight. Yeah. I think that's got to be the way. And it's good to have him on the card anyway. I think he's going to bring eyes.

Yeah, and he's getting more, I see him getting more active on social media. And he doesn't have the same issue with Leon, as Leon does with kind of getting true to the fans. And Fabian always laughs about it. He goes, I'm a dickhead sometimes. And people seem to like that. And Leon's just, everything, Mr. Do everything,

always says the right thing. And people just aren't getting behind it. Even then, even when he tweeted, obviously he was on our show, last week and he talked about he wanted to fight Lala and Dosanos, he put out a tweet and just to read the comments underneath it, it's crazy how people view him, you know?

I don't have a clue what the buzz is there, but, you know, if they'll happen here, they'll be uproar. Like that tree piece and a soda thing. Oh my God, like, lads, do you really think you're original writing that underneath a post? Fair enough, one he is, but 18 he is writing it. Idiots. There's so many idiots online on them. It's the most casual thing ever when you see guys doing that.

Or do you know what the other thing is, if I tweet an article about, like, anyone, They always have the who the fuck is that guy underneath that. You're like, all right, mate. You watch. Run along, son. That's what I always say. I don't say anything.

I just go. I apologize. I feel sorry for your mother. Five dollars. I can give you a cheeseburger. I won't see any more. No, you know, I think, you know, if we're going to talk about Leon here, it's just a piz steak, man.

The fan's not getting behind him. He's one of your own in the UK, support the guy. And he's got seven. him. Look at the guys he's beaten. Holy mother of God. Just get the guy, a bloody fight. A big fight that he deserves.

Dana Wise, Sean Shelby, Mick Maynard, shame on you. Oh. You're dead right. That's how we felt for a long time here. Cage Warriors 106 as a couple of new fights. Sam Creasy is the last title fight announced he'll be fighting for flyaway gold against Sam here. I love watching him fight.

But then, Sam Creasy. Yeah. He's really good. And I mean, he's got back to winning ways after that, Nathan Grayson loss. and Nathan fought fantastically that night and even in Nathan's debut then with Bellator he looked great against

Carl Eleanor. Cal Anor managed to get the submission. It was a tremendous fight though. So yeah, I think Sam and that Floydweight belt they've kind of got a date with Destiny at this stage but it's going to be interesting to see because as we know,

Cage Warriors titles are the pathway to the USC but I don't know. As Nathan left when he got the belt because he was like, well that's no longer an option. So it's interesting to see how that will go. Alex Lohorway will take on Aaron Khalid

there was a bit of talk there between Reese and Alex. And it seems like Reese is saying, and Alex said, you know, he was offered that fight and he didn't take it. He felt like Aaron was the guy who could get him there quicker. Interesting. Yeah, I do find it interesting. I think the fact La Jore is coming off a loss as well, it seems a bit weird. Some of the comments coming out from his end saying to Reese that, you know, you're not a big enough name. Well, listen, I think it would have been a very, very good matchup.

and one that probably list of honors as well like in terms of Bamma champions yeah and I think it would have been a really good fight for both the lads because it's it's that sort of

you know you could main event that um look how eager Reese was a lot of people getting behind that fight look how eager was

Reese was to get that fight made like I mean that would be an unbelievable fight and I think Aaron Kalida and Alex is going to be a great fight too that night is just going to be insane man yeah I'm looking forward to it and I think

um you know Reese whatever he's going to do next in terms of he's been open with you and when we had him on the podcast here and it very much does look like he's gone to 170 100%

the weight cut, you know, I did a video to him last year before the Razier, I think it was. Can't stop being cake now. It's just so hard for the guy to make 55 and I think, you know, it's going to be very interesting to see if that touch of debt can be translated over.

I think it generally does when you go up to the heavier weight class, you know, it tends to be right there and he's going to have more volume I felt like at 55 Reese just knew he had that physical capability to touch someone once and in the night and he still showed he had it but I think if you can imagine

that with way more volume like that's the way I'm expecting this to go and that's a dangerous dangerous situation for any opponent it is definitely on that I think I'm really interested in the cardio the translation over Reese is a guy that can obviously go and keep going I just hope he gets his burger

habit together because even if you looked at his last foot how big he was getting he's still a growing kid like he's only 22 is Reese. Can't stop eating burgers, man. He's just a big fat burger head. He needs to stop eating them and we're going to be going up to 205 soon if he didn't get a call of himself. That's what they call him. That's unfortunately what they call him.

Now, another thing, Mr. Graham Boylan, he was on Instagram the early and he said something very interesting. Graham wasn't on Instagram, was he? Oh, Graham. He loves it, doesn't he? Graham is the man on Insta and he put up a picture of the UFC. He's riding horses. UFC's logo. The old one, I might add.

Not the new one, Graham. Just start that out for next time. And he says, a new UFC contract, new signing in my inbox today. Who you got? Well, who you got, Noel? I believe we probably have the same person here. It's time to go to the seaside. I reckon, Jack Shore.

Yeah, I do too. I don't know what that meant, but yeah, I enjoy it. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah. I have tried to confirm this. You'd imagine so. And I haven't heard anything back, which makes me even more. either match itself

either imagine so well he deserves it 100% the man is a savage the Welsh invasion

continues look I think the guy's class I think he's all class he's clearly ready he's a young guy he can have a huge adventure now on this new

platform he has done well he's done brilliantly for Cage Warriors he has made them a new kind of a port of call there in Cardiff

and look at the amount of talent they have left there in Cardiff and even Jack said to me Mason Jones is there just to pick up the rains. Like, he's emerging in that toilet conversation at 55.

What are he putting in the water in Cardiff? Oh, he went down and just did a seminar a couple of years ago. Was that it? Yeah. All right. Okay. You can ask Jack there next time you're talking to him. He'll tell you.

Realized that. Yeah, of course. Oh, really. Yeah, it was. But yeah. Finally, Patty Hewlin elected the South Dublin Council. Man, what a man. I spent two days with Patty and, you know, two years ago,

Patty's career was completely ended. He had no options. His gym closed. Everything was breaking down around. around him and to be there and see him kind of have such a big successful moment in a new career. It's inspirational. He's an amazing person. He really is.

And you can see how passionately is. Like, for me, I'm not political at all. I learned actually more about the voting system being with Patty over the last two days than I ever did. I have no idea. I'm not either. But I don't know shit, as I said, about politics. I make sure I vote because that's what we're meant to do because people died for that right. but Patty

he's speaking about what he wants to do you can tell he's so passionate about it and this is the same as he was with Mix Marshall Arts and he's not a guy to lie down never has been and I'm really really really hope he has a fantastic political career and it was just really nice to be there with him and his

Sinn Féin colleagues who are explaining how these things work to me and obviously Chelsea and Baby Shames as well a really really proud moment for everyone involved in MMA as far as I'm concerned congratulations buddy and I think it's a good thing as Paddy said to me in his interview afterwards, like he's going to be trying to,

trying anything he can to help this push for regulation. And, you know, this is a great sign. He's obviously helping Andy Ryan with the coaching on the Emma team, and I'm hearing that's going brilliantly. There's a real good team atmosphere there. And something that Andy was really passionate about him, Barry and Patty, I think, are heading it up. Andy's good at that.

He brings the fun element together as well. And it doesn't feel like a chore, even though obviously they're doing, you know, very, very high-level training. He'd be very serious about selection. He's very serious about all that stuff. There's no way a lad who was one of his lads is just getting on the team for no reason. And look, he's been to the top of the world in terms of judo, so I think we're in very safe hands there.

Right, well, that's all of our news, I guess. So we'll go to the first interview of the day, and that's what Mr. Volcan Ozdemir. No time. He takes on Iler Latifi this weekend. If you remember in a recent interview he did, maybe on Eurobash, maybe it was at the London event, he was telling us the last kind of person he would want to face. basis ill or because they have a relationship. They had trained together for a long

time in the States. So very interesting that is the fight that's being made. So we got his thought he gave us an update in his visa situation. And yes. And also his take on what's happening with John Jones and Tiago Silva, does he think he has a... Teago Santos. Does he have a chance? So

we'll leave you with Volcan. We're back in about 15. And now, as advertised, we are joined by former light heavyweight title contender Mr. Volcan Osdemir. Khan, long time since I spoke to you last time. How are you, my friend? I'm doing great.

I'm doing my time in Switzerland. Now I'm training here, so it's great to be back home. Oh, you've done the whole camp in Switzerland, have you? Yeah, now I've been doing actually my last camp and this camp in Switzerland. In Switzerland, I also have been moving around a little bit to Turkey, to govigiz, with Galvau, and then went to nowhere to train with some guys that are also specialised

in a Greco-Roman wrestling so just to have some good, you know, partners for me to reproduce the style of my next opponent. Yes, absolutely, and we will. We'll talk about it in a few minutes, but I was just wondering, you know, the last time we saw you out there

was in London, of course, and you came out and you graciously spoke to the media afterwards. You weren't happy with that split decision lost. You know, you felt you won the fight. Have you gone back to watch that fight? Do you still feel as passionate as you do about that should have been a win for you that night? Yeah, I've watched the fight, you know, a few times.

But then, you know, I don't want to lose time in watching this and, you know, losing my energy and my focus on this fight. I think that was a bullshit decision and, you know, I stand by it. You know, I guess, you know, he was also a way to keep building this guy up. but I think I did everything. I had to do with the fact. Obviously, you know, I should have done more, so I should not leave the decision in the end of the judges.

And this is something, you know, I definitely took advice from, and my next fight is going to be a statement. Absolutely, yeah. And I mean, like, is it hard for you, Volkan, because obviously we know that you're an elite fighter. You fought for the title. The way you emerged in the UFC was absolutely astronomical. but is that hard

the fact that you're on a three-foyed skid now I mean does that challenge you mentally in a new way because let's be honest up until this moment of your career you had been starting guys mostly in the first round do you find this is a new obstacle for you to overcome and how do you feel about the situation

well it's definitely uh it's definitely a situation I am in right now um now I've you know this uh losing race Now that I need to break, you know, I need to get back into my winning tricks.

It's good. I feel great. I also felt my last fight was mine. So it's not like, you know, I've been heading towards losses. Anthony Smith also had a great fight until the very end of the fight until I got to take it down and choke. The Reyes fight was also, you know, really, really good for me. It's not like a high-hose bad lotus knockout, like you feel bad or you look bad.

So it is something also that doesn't really bother me that nursing in a way that I haven't been put into too much difficult situation during those fights. So it is also something that gives me strength. You know, I know I'm on the right way. I just have to work on a few things and that's what I'm doing right now. Right, right. And I know one of the times we had you on the show before, I think it might have been just before the Anthony Smith fight, and we were talking about, you know, potential opponents for the future. And I think I remember you saying Iler was a guy you didn't want to face. And I think it was because you kind of had previous experience training with him or something. Maybe you can tell me if I'm right or wrong on that. But I can remember Iler wasn't a guy that you were jumping up and down to face. Why was that? So actually, that was the exact thing. I've trained with I in 2011. My first time I was in the U.S.

And, yeah, we trained together for five weeks. We really hit it off. And we stayed friends, so we talked from time to time. But actually, I was, you know, in the situation with the ULT. Now it was my third-third-fileged, Third fight that I lost, you know, and also because of my GEDA situation, I cannot fight in the US right now.

Then I need to fight in the European show, and I wanted me to be back on track because I was really feeling disgusted by my last, the outcome of my last fight. So I told the UFC that I really wanted to fight in Stockholm. Stockholm was like two, three months away from my last fight. And they told them, you know, the only the only, you know, the only, possible opponent for matchup was him and Manuel, you know, Manuel, that had the beat already anyway. And Elyr, and then, you know, the trust was pointed out on so earlier. And I mean, how do you do you go about that? Do you contact Iler to tell him, like, you know,

this has been offered? Should I take this? Or is it strictly business when the name comes up, you've got to accept? Yeah, actually, one of my coach from Turkey told me also, His manager contacted him and he told me that they were fine with it. And, you know, it's just business, you know, at the end of the day. You know, I don't wish him home. It's like two-will-college, you know, like, let's point it out way. We're going to be a colleague on Tuesday night. We're going to be earning money together and, you know, maybe that's not win.

Is it different, like, when you know a guy so well? Have you been in this situation before when you fought a guy that you've trained with that you got on well? or is this a new thing for you? So I've been finding a guy that I train with, but I actually trained with him like maybe twice, you know, so that wasn't really a big thing. But otherwise, yeah, it's going to be a different, you know, it's going to be a different mindset for me to enter the fight.

No hatred towards him, no, nothing just respect, and it's going to be like, you know, a good war, you know, like it's going to be like a good game, you know, like we're going to give it the best of our abilities and, you know, just to bring the best out of each other. And you spoke about this earlier on, you know, training specifically for the Greco-Roman story that Ilya likes to bring. He's a fantastic wrestler, a great grappler, as we know. And what were them training sessions like? Is that where you took from them experiences, that he was just an exceptionally strong grappler?

Yeah, so I've been training with. with this guy that's an up-and-coming fighter, you know, it's probably going to be in the UFC soon, Martin Hamlet, and it was a good way to prefer myself also to face failure because, obviously, Gregoraman Wrestor, a different collegiate retro of three-teller racer, so it's good to have a different feeling also to, when you face one of them,

and that was the best way also to get ready for easier. It's a really very strong retro, too. so that was perfect for me to do my camp up there in nowhere. I like the way the UFC are keeping you close to these title conversations. Look at the opponents you've faced. I mean, Daniel Carmier is the champion. I mean, the guys you've lost it, Daniel Carmier's a champion. Anthony Smith is like you, a title contender.

Dominic Reyes is an up-and-coming guy. I feel like I LaTiffie has been knocking on the door of that title conversation for a long time. So, I mean, in that respect, it is a good matchup for you, right? Like, I mean, it's a positive matchup in terms of where Iller is in the division. Yeah, obviously, I've been finding a lot of couple guys, like non-stop, like my first person, whether I'm going to stop playing guy. And then, you know, after my losses, I had an architect who was on the Terry, you know, just the two former champions, then Dominique Reyes was defeated also.

And I think I think I'm the first fighter that I'm coming out of a lot of us, you know. So it's also like a little, not I'm not saying a little break, but it's, you know, definitely a different situation right now because before like all those people facing me are like on the row, you know, like change and that's what they're doing. And now he's facing me. And it's going to be like the first, the first guy that is going to be like a different situation. Yes. And is there any fair? I mean, when you're on a three-fights kid. And not that, you know, I think that way, but like, you know, yesterday we had the news of Alois Teodoro, who was on a, you know, a good run with the UFC.

Obviously, he's coming off a loss this time, but, you know, he got cut and everybody's kind of wondering what's going on there. Now, I know that you're known to have a far more exciting style than Elias, but, you know, given the fact that you're on a three-fights kid, is there any fear at all, Volcan, that, you know, if you lose this fight, it might be time up with the UFC? I don't really think so because I've been presenting myself available for the all the time I've been taking fights on short notice

I've been taking only the top guys and I think I have a exciting fight you know I'm not doing I'm not playing it safe I never play safe and I'm going for the knockouts and I think that's a lot of things that play a role

in the process you know, with the UPC. And obviously you want to be somebody that they can count on, you know, that's something for sure. So, you know, there is also the level of opposition you're facing and also the way you face the opposition and, you know, how you handle all of this. Yes, absolutely, absolutely. No, I agree with you actually, I think, and because of your exciting showings,

I think, you know, a lot of people want to see you in there all the time, so I do agree. and, you know, when I look at this card, there is so many fights going on in the Lloyd Heavyweight Division. This is a big night for the Light Heavyweight Division, wouldn't you agree? Yeah, that's actually crazy for us. A lot of things are going to be moving now in the wreck after that night. Manwa is fighting right to try to do it for a really good talent, you know,

like an up-income guy. Me and Rotisie and then, you know, top of the division will be moving your customers. and this is going to be also good because now it's been two people that already faced Jun-Jun for the belt so I guess even if one of them win I don't think they're going to get right a title shot right next after the fight so maybe you know who knows like how the who knows how the the the fights is going to go but you know it's maybe if a huge fight is going to be a treatment and he's going to tend

but you know it's going to be good for the division you know it's going to be good night yeah it probably makes your win even more valuable if you get the win because of all the activity in the division right because that's going to be a big story on sunday you'd imagine like what happened to 205 in stockholm given that there's four fights on

yeah I mean Anthony's definitely I want to get my revenge on and I've been wanting to find you for for long time too so definitely it's one of the winner will be, you know, potentially one of my next appointment. Yes, and I've got to ask, you know, obviously the visa issue must stand back to that, the situation you're in last year with the, I thought everything was sorted out with this.

Is this something that's still hanging over you? Do you hope to get that sorted out soon? Is that in the process of happening? So everything is finished now. Now we just have to wait on the visa to be processing, and this takes, you know, time. But the visa is processing right now, and we just have to wait. So it's kind of a...

I don't really know how long I have to wait until, but, you know, that's my position right now. I hope it gets sorted out for you soon, Volcan. I know that's obviously a big block when you can't fight in the U.S., right? Yeah, I mean, there is a lot of cards, you know, outside of the U.S. too. There is some European cards sometimes, and Canada. Brazil and stuff. But actually the biggest factor for me is like training. You know, I want to train the U.S. with my team and, you know, like those best team,

you know, best team in the world. Most of them are in the U.S. And we also have, you know, like the UCPI, you know, a place that could go, you know, for some treatment and, you know, like, stuff like that. So definitely it will be good once I would be able to come back. I've got to ask you your opinion on the next title match in the division with Tiago Santos and John Jones. I see a lot of people have different opinions on this. A lot of people seem to think that Tiago's wild man kind of style and his crazy striking approach could cause Jones a lot of problems.

How do you feel about it? Do you feel like it's going to be another one-sided win for Jones, or do you feel like Santos can really bring something to the table that will trouble him? So I really think you have to really to put pressure on on Jones to make him comfortable

you know because John's finding you know at a really small slow pace you know and usually it's usually like

building his own pace and once you sell for it you know you're doing it and actually I think it's it's all about

bringing up the pace and I think Santos really doesn't care about it and it's really wild So it is going to be one of his, definitely one of his value, you know, that it could bring into the fight. Although I still see, you know, Jones winning that fight,

I think Jones has a lot of tools, you know, like in between everything, you know, his wrestling, in his one game and he's striking. I think he's going to be able to handle the tempest. Roy, Roy, that's very interesting. is very interesting and just finally Volkan like i mean having gone on that brilliant run at the start of your uc career and now being on this skid do you believe now with all the experience you've gained from you know all of these fights do you believe your next run towards that title will be even

stronger than your first yeah definitely you know we're evolving all the time but also the sports keeps evolving so you have to you have to evolve faster than everybody you have to be ahead of of the game and you know of course you have to catch up in all the techniques you're missing so so that's really you know like something you have to be aware of you know you have to be like you should be dangerous in any position you know like any any any stance you know like left the south or you know like orthodox on on the ground on the wrestling you know so that's something that's really going to make you really um efficient and that's how you're evolving as the best name and that's the way to be champion

I think. Volkan, thank you so much as always for your time. I cannot wait to see you back in there in Stockholm. I'll be over on Wednesday, so I'll make sure to say hello when I'm over there, my friend. Cool. Yeah, thank you so much. Thank you so much. All the best.

Bye-bye. I appreciate him. Thank you. Bye. Great, as always, to speak to Mr. Volkan Uzdemir. I'm looking forward to that fight and let's have a look at that card now while we're at it sure.

I love the thing about this card I look the most is how much movement we're going to see in the 205 division. There's four fights in that division and there's a lot of interest. Alexander Gustafson v. Anthony Smith is the main event, the co-main event as we just talked to

Volcan Osdimir against Illyla-Littifi. Then you have Jimmy Manoa against the guy I feel like will be in the toilet conversation someday is Alexander Rackach who was unbeaten in the U. F. Also, towards the end of the card, you've got Darko Stossich. A guy, nobody's really talking about this guy. He's an absolute animal.

He's taking on Devin Clark. And, you know, Darko isn't the biggest fan of the media from what I've gathered in Hamburg and stuff like this, but he is an absolute animal. Rocket Speed Clark as well. Yeah. Spelt him on the cards. Yeah, yeah. But, and Alexander looks really, really good. It has to be said.

Alexander Gustafson v. Anthony Smith. Let's take a... What does this fight mean? Nothing. Because neither of them can fight Jones next. They've just both recently lost the Jones. So what are we taking from this? I don't know.

I'm not interested really in a lot of the fights in this card. I think, you know, especially with the light heavyweight thing there, there's a lot of guys that realistically is, you know, Jimmy, you know, what's Jimmy a gaykeeper now? You know, he's three straight losses in a row. He's not even a gaykeeper. You've always been a three-fights skate as well. He was on a three-fights kid as well.

Hillary Anderson. Yeah, it's just very, you can't see these guys ever being a world champion. And that... I don't know about that. I mean, no, no, I'm talking about the guys that have lost there, the guys have names, you know, like... Anthony and Alexander. Jimmy, Alexander, Anthony. Rackich, possibly, down the line in the future.

A guy, maybe this is a coming out party for him. But this is the problem, this is a problem for the light heavyweight division in general, isn't it? It is. It is. And I think, you know, Alexander... Which one? Gustafson, you know. you know

where does he go like maybe maybe well there's obvious why he's on top of the Swedish car yeah I can understand that 100% don't get me wrong but should he have made his bow with heavyweight here

I don't know he doesn't chasing that goal that's been his career long aim he does to be world champion he doesn't look to me like he can last as a heavy weight like he's just he's not big enough I agree but he's very tall

like but he's not he's a bit slight but what's his purpose there's a reason why John Jones isn't going yeah fight Daniel Carmier at 265. You know, like, there's a reason for that. And I think, I think if John Jones is an interest, I don't know how to hell Alexander. But what is Alexander's...

You're thinking in terms of options like... Yeah, what, no, you know, if he wants to be remembered as a world champion, what's his legacy, where, you know, he's not going to get that at $205, in my opinion, any time soon. He's getting over. It's unlikely to even get an option for it. Yeah. You know, that's the truth. It is 100%.

So, like, I mean, this kind of... happens though. I remember Gustafson was pretty much he was kind of like, oh, they'd love to see the Jones rematch the last time he went to Sweden, then he put on that performance against Tashara and suddenly it's like, wow, look what he did. Like, if he goes in, right, and he gets rid of Anthony Smith

very quickly, that's a big statement. I don't know. It's not going to put him as the next guy to fight for the title. I completely agree with you there. But it is a big statement nonetheless. Like, I mean, it does make him a fixture in that conversation, but it's very unlikely that it was...

Because, you know, maybe they're just waiting to counten down the days until John Jones moves up to heavyweight, which I see is an inevitability in the next year or two, in my opinion. Anyway, I think, you know, John could even possibly fight the winner of DC. He said he doesn't want it. Listen, John changes his mind like the weather. I feel the same way about that as well, but it's, I don't think he is going to fight Carmier at 265.

A heavyweight, sorry, I keep saying. Well, he'll be out she's going to beat Cornier this time. Certainly looked that way last time until he poked his eyes out. gouge them out which a lot of people seem to not talk about it because they like Daniel Cormier so much how long are you on Steve by best mates? Long long time but um

Hey how you doing Steve? Give a show. Good man. Steve so how do you think you know this fight? It's a fascinating matchup of styles like yeah good fight man. Great interview. Yeah, brilliant. So Usdimir and Latifie is a similar situation as we said

with both guys coming off a loss but I just have a feeling that you know there's interesting matches to be made after this event I know maybe not right now I mean if you're talking to me about the most captivating 205 fight there it's Mano and Rackage without a doubt yeah yeah in terms of you know a fan spam spam

fan spectacle yeah it probably is it's probably and it's the lip-misset it's the big lip-bestos for Rackage it is and listen all great respect to Jimmy lovely guy I like Jimmy it'd be good I think if Rackage for the division maybe came out made a big statement and spiced himself up.

I think the table is set for him to have a big night, you know? I do, but I just find it a little bit stale at the top of this card. Yeah, yeah, of course. I'm actually interested in the fights themselves, take away to ramifications and all that stuff. I'm actually interested in them. And the thing I'll say about wreckage is, he's shown us so many different things that he can do.

Like, against Lodette, I can remember he kind of described his performance as a Kane Velasquez performance against Ladek because he wanted to show he could grapple because a lot of people thought he was simply a striker. And then, of course, against Devin Clark, that spinning back fist. After he got that knee to the face, if you remember, it was an illegal strike and he got up and won.

It was absolutely unbelievable. I'm really, really, really, like, I feel like Rackage is a guy that definitely go the whole way. In terms of, he could be a European frontrunner, as far as I'm concerned, a 205, like, as in if we're prospecting, the next title challenger. I think it's him. Good call. I agree with that. I love this fight. Macwan Amarani versus Fisie.

Yeah, it is good. And Fisch is going to be pissed off because he can't watch the Champions League final. let's say. I don't know actually. I think he's a red. I'm not too sure. Listen, we all have Tottenham win anyway. Go on, me dad. I'm a Spurs fan for the week. My dad is Spurs fan. Well, then that's another reason. Go on, Limo.

Nemo, I'm a Spurs fan. Yeah. Yeah, no, it is an interesting fight. No, I can't say that. I was right to say. We're going to weeks ago. But it would be very, very interesting to see where this fight goes. I expect to be probably played out in the deck. Yeah, well, I think both the guys, Muster and top position are extremely darned. We saw against Fishgold there in his last. fight, the submission win. He struck with Calvin Cater for his debut. And look, that's a

madman. That fish goal goes right. Fuck it. I'm going to do it this way. And then, of course, he goes back to his Route 1 style there in the last time. And he gets the submission win. Like, that works. We always knew that about Chris. When he was the lightweight champion of Cage Warriors, maybe he wasn't the most exciting, spectacular fighter in the world. But my God, he was efficient and he got the job done. I think this is a battle of top position. That's the way I agree with you. I give the strike and edge to fishyy. Yeah, I would as well. Definitely give the striking edge to fish gold.

Jason Knight, when obviously Macwan fought last. In Liverpool, wasn't it? Yeah, it was a crap performance, to be honest, you from Macwan. Was that very, very... Was that his last fight? Yeah, he was very underwhelming in that fight. Only fights in the UK, usually. We talked about that.

It was a poor performance. It was very underwhelming from Macwan. And I think, obviously, that lost to Arnold Allen, which is obviously no disgrace. Arnold is a fantastic fighter. Can I just congratulate you on saying Arnold Allen? Yeah, for the first time. Wow.

Well, yeah. You've been pricing that one, buddy. And then, you know, the fight that really sold out for me was when Matt 1 beat Mike Wilkins. Yeah, yeah. That was a fantastic performance from Mac 1. I think we saw a bit of everything, very strong, as you said, in top position in that fight. Incredible, grappler. It is.

I think it's going to be a close one here, but I'm probably going to favor Fish Gold. Just that raw sort of power. I'm very interested to see that one. Because I feel like that's a big pop for Fish Gold that he beats Mike 1. Mike 1 is very popular, especially in Scandinavia. Mr. Finland, no less. He lives in Ireland. Does he live here?

Most of the time, yeah. I saw John tweet there recently that he's lost his way to his accommodation. He was like, I forgot where I live, but he just came back to the gym. He gone around eating an apple, was he Macon? Oh, man.

He owes me 100 quid still. Oh, well. Christos-Giagos versus Damare Hadsovich. Hazovich is a nightmare. He's underrated, as far as I'm concerned. He's never makes it easy for any of his opponents, and he's on a two-fight win streak now. Nick Hoyne and Polo Reyes.

Chrisos Gagos, you know much about him, buddy? No. I can't say I do either. No, I don't. I'm going to quickly look up his record and pretend I know. He's fought on the UFC twice. He is an ACB veteran. He lost to Charles Oliverich.

Oh, I remember that twice. He said baptism of fire. And then Mazutu Herota, he took a win over him last December. So, you know, could be a very, very important fight for him to win, to be honest. Alois Teodoro will tell you as much. But, yeah. Hadzovich. is very underrated as far as I'm saying.

Daniel Timor's fighting there as well. Good old Danny. Need to win. Fighting undefeated, son bin Joe. That's a dodgy one, isn't it? Like, I mean, just given a circumstance or going in against an unbeaten guy. Three straight, I think he's lost, Daniel as well.

He hasn't kicked on maybe the way a lot of people thought he would have. Fish Gold, obviously beat him last time out. Big, big test. Tough one there. Yeah, absolutely. and Rustam Ackman making his debut Superior FC veteran It's going to be interesting to see

against another debutante in Sergei Kanzoko So yeah Not much interest going on that one I can tell you Tanya and Avenger v. Lena Landsberg Like I mean Tanya's not had a good run with the UFC

And I mean She was so heavily bailed coming in This is the Diaz sister You know they were kind of saying And she is, there's no doubt about She's tough as nails She's a very entertaining person too. She's a good crack.

I'm looking forward to talking to her. But, yeah, it's not really gone her way with the USC, has it? Two very tough fights in fairness. Aspen Lad's a nightmare. Aspen Lad's a class act. Really good young fighter. Cyborg, we saw how tough she was in that battle, but came up short. So, you know, maybe this is the one.

I think Lena doesn't like, but she does take a lot of damage in her fights. And it's going to be interesting to see the way this fight plays out. But to be a big, a huge win for Lena Lansberg. Yeah, oh, massive win. But I think the way Tanya sort of gets in your face, we saw she try to implement herself on the front foot against Cyborg, didn't ultimately work out, but push Cyborg very far in that fight. If she can get in Lena's face, Lena's defense is a little bit questionable at times. And I just do fancy Tonya here to get the job done.

It's an interesting one, though, yeah. Yeah, Leonardo Santos, who we remember from robbing Norman Park with that draw. in Brazil. He hasn't... When was the last time he fought? No, but I know he's unbeaten in the UFC still. He hasn't fought since 2016. Just checked it there.

That's a long time. It is. Adriano Martins was his last victory. I mean, Leonardo was very good, though. I mean, he... Two-time, three-time World Champion? Something like Brazil, yeah. Brazilian jitzu, yeah.

And he's obviously taking on Stevie Ray, whose last win kind of went under the radar, didn't it, against Jess and Eari. He got back to winning ways after the occasion Johnson fighting Liverpool. Was it Liverpool or London? Not too strong. It was...

That fight could have gone either way. Yeah, and then Leonardo Santos obviously welcoming him back. No, no way. Not the guy you really want to be going in against on your first day back. Because Stevie is good everywhere. You can't be like, oh, I'll take him to the ground. I'll stand with him, I'll be grand. It's going to be a hellish night.

Yeah, I think that will stand to Stevie in this one, the fact Leonardo was in thoughts of 26. Because Stevie can set a big pace sometimes, you know. And indeed, he can go all day that guy. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Nick Hine in action against Frank Camacho. Yes, Frank Camacho. Two losses on the trot there for Frank. And I believe Nick, I don't think Nick's got back to winning ways.

No, I don't think so. No, he's on two loss. Yeah, he fought Demir in Hamburg. That's right, split decision loss. That was a big one for Demer, to be honest. Stoshish Clark stands out there for me in those fights. Yeah, it's definitely. We'll just mention Duda Santana's taking on Bay Maleky, a 1-0 fighter.

That's interesting for the UFC. That is interesting. Yeah, very interesting. I don't really know much about that. That's not usually the criteria for signing someone. So yeah, Devin Clark and Darko Stossage. Look out for Stossage, man. He's an absolute animal man.

He kind of reminds me a bit of Roberto Salich if he was 205. So, yeah, check him out, man. He's really good. I was there for his debut. I think that was in Hamburg as well. And then Delino Bellardo and Yole Alvarez kick off the action. Italy versus Spain. Be a good football match anyway.

It would. But, yeah, I mean, is this car going to fly under the radar at the Champions League final? Oh, yeah. Oh, I got a very poor, very poor decision to do a European fight card on the same way as the European.

They did it a couple of years ago as well. I remember being in the media room, I think it was Real Madrid and we're playing maybe Baruchia Zora. Yeah, or Latico. Who cares? Yeah, they did it before on the Champions League. It's just silly, some of the,

some of the, they don't really give a shit in Europe. Yeah, yeah, it seems like a bad decision, all right. Cage Warriors 105 goes down the day before in Colchester. But you know James Webb, the Colchester native, because he's getting ready for his Cage Warriors 106 title fight, of course. But on the main card, Sean Carter v. Tim Barnett, and if you, let's go a call back to what we talked about earlier, Reese McKeigh and Alex Lahore's exchange,

Lahoree seemed to say, if you want to fight Tim Barnett, then we'll see if you're good enough to fight me. Tim Barnett is back at 55. makes just zero sense Reese has already actually avenged the loss to Tim Barden of course but both guys finished each other in the first round yeah you know

but still come on I think and Reese has gone the 170 doesn't make sense it just doesn't at all that's an interesting vote though Tim Bardett and Sean Carter two goers man again though we were talking about this there a few minutes ago when we're playing the interview there

Sean hasn't fought for three two years yeah it's a long time McCauagan was the last man to put hands in. I couldn't believe that, yeah. Yeah, two beautifully curly men. Yeah. It's going to be a very interesting one here. I think Tim as well really needs something, you know, to start happening.

He just comes across sometimes, and I know he's coming off that winning against Ventra, but, you know, lost to Alex. That was a great fight, man, Venture. It was, but I think he needs to really make a statement here. Yeah. To really solidify himself. But I will say this about both of these guys, Carter and Barnett, on their night, they look unbelievable. They look like, I mean, when they are at full tilt, they look unbelievable. both of those guys do.

Yeah, I love watching Sean fight. And I remember, obviously. He's a real crowd favorite as well there with Cage Warriors, you know? Yeah, definitely ever, probably since the night of the tournament did it, the lightweight tournament. Yes. That was Sean looked absolutely fantastic in that tournament. It was a great night. Stevie Ray was obviously there as well.

Carl Warwick. Yeah, that's right. That was a great night. And I think that sort of endeared him to, as you said, Cage Warriors fans ever since that night. And his delicious curls. Oh, yeah, like yours, Pete. Oh, thank you. Donovan Desme, I believe he stepped in on short notes to take on Alexander Javis.

That's a big fight of 55 as well. Yeah, it's a decent card for obviously... We know that, you know, I think with the deck so stacked at 106, they've done a good job to put together at all. Aiden Stevens is a prospect to watch from Scotland, and Steve Amiable has looked fantastic lately. You know, Amiable is one of those guys, didn't have the best start to his career, but now we saw him against Deke McAleen, a guy who everybody's very excited about over here. He really, really devastated it, just, you know. Hicking him off his feet and putting him on his ass. This is a good roof for Amiable.

I like the fact that he's taking on all these prospects, you know, like, I mean, Macalene, and that was a big pop from that note, I feel, and I think the same, if he can manage to get through Aidan, Stephen, it's going to be exactly the same thing. 100%. It's a good way to sell yourself, a good way. Great matchmaking. Yeah, yeah. No, for him, especially as well, to be taking these fights, as you said,

way more noticeable if he's taking out these prospects, then, you know, trying to massively sort of build yourself up in a longer run. Absolutely. Also, I want to mention the fact that Corey McKenna is back in action. against Julia Chenello. Toughly last. Yeah, I don't know if she's been over with with Eroya again.

I'm not too sure. I think she might have. I'm not too sure on that though, but she obviously got back to winning ways against Fannie Redmond, a cage where he was 104. And yeah, she'd get back,

get the old Winstreet going again. A lot of people, very interesting, Corey, such a young person and she looks so young as well when she's in there. She looks like she's about 12. Yeah, yeah, she really does. It's unbelievable to see her. And how tough she is,

and durable. It's insane, it's insane. It's a tough little. Yeah. You want to be tough if, you know, Paddy's floating around.

You've seen me Patty. Your nephew Patty is... Oh my God. Is Helen Legs is what he is. He's absolutely nuts. He probably batted it to us. Oh, yeah. No problem.

But, um, yeah, so, right, so basically I wanted to chat with Miles Price because, to be fair to Peter Quilly, when he was talking about him the other day,

he was like, where is Miles? And I was like, actually, actually, where is he? Where is he? Where is Miles?

You know, like, I mean, in terms of Peter has been matched, you know. He's a jam and stuff, doesn't he? Yeah, but, yeah. Well, it's good to just because when Peter kind of said that, I think a few people have got on to me going, like, and I'm not from Team Royno guys, to be fair, they were going to say to me, is this another slight? Like, is this showing the SPG favoritism? But Miles clears it up. Like, I mean, they did offer him a fight in June, but he is going to be away in San Jose.

So that isn't going to work out. He's going to target that September fight now. Is he away in San Jose, is he? Yeah, yeah. All right. Boy. Mr. Habib fighting in all. I know.

It's a good time to go. We talked about that as well. But, yeah, so, I mean, he obviously talked about Peter's comments about Peter now, feeling like he won the fight. People saw that interview. He also talked about how he wants to fight Chris Bungard in September, and now Quili and Miles Price have gone in on that.

And he also had some things about to say. Before we go to it, why does Peter do that? Why? He always comes up with these things afterwards. it feels as though he's won the fight now yeah like this is a reoccurring team a lot of the time where it seems like I think it's a with fighters in general

isn't it oh yeah but it's just a bit like just let it go you didn't win that fight man I didn't think he won the fight no um but I will say like the one thing I did kind of say from that like um he won so many so many people's respect when he did that interview straight afterwards yeah I totally agree with you we talked about that it was brilliant to come out and say you wouldn't but at the same time believe me you you wouldn't get a lot of guys doing that

and look I take that moment as that moment. He said it then and that's that. And they also have to remember that this is professional fighting. This is prize fighting. And you have got to say, if there's even a question, you've got to say, I won that fight. You've got to. I agree. Totally. I don't think it's going down well with some people. What can you do? You know, you're not here to make friends. You're here to make money. Peter's got to create controversy. Yeah, look at the Bungar thing. I mean, people are talking that. The Scottish guys are coming out. Peter Quillis, this and that. The Irish guys are going back at the Scottish people. And this is what I said, the Moyals. I said,

As far as Males concerned, Terry lost to Chris and Peter lost to him, so he should fight Chris. But I was like, this is the sports v. Entertainment debate again. There's a lot more people talking about Peter Quilly and Bungard because of that sparring picture. So what will win out? This is Bellator. They need eyes. They need compelling storylines. Look what Miles Price and Peter Quilly did the last one.

I mean, that was by far the most intriguing fight. People's main events. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, well, maybe I'll just let Moyle's say this for God's sake. Jesus Christ, talking shied all day here. So here's Miles Price. He's actually on holiday in Spain and he still took this phone call. So fair play to him, Miles.

I really appreciate it. And thanks for clearing up all of our questions. We'll be back in about 15. Now, I am joined by none other than Miles Price. And I wanted to talk to Miles, especially because I talked to Peter, quealy during the week his last opponent who he won by a split decision. And, you know, Peter asked a good question. Like, where is Miles?

And that's what I want to know. Where is Miles? and why doesn't Miles Price have a fight lined up yet? That's my question, Miles. And how are you, by the way? I'm not too bad, Paisi. Thanks very much. It was great to be on here, chatting with you again.

Yeah, man, always a pleasure. Always a pleasure to speak to you, man. Yeah, but I guess that's where I'd like to start it off. I mean, first of all, have you had any contact from Bellator since that big win? I saw that win as a launch pad for you. Whoever was going to win that fight was going to be off on a good run with Bellator as far as I was going to. concerned, but we've yet to hear if you have another fight lined up. What's going on there,

bud? Yeah, well, I actually was in contact. I was chatting to Jude, and we were talking about a fight in June, and to be honest, would you, I just have too much going on in regards to my gym at the moment just developing it and pushing it to another level, because you have to remember, like, I want to make sure that I keep on top of everyone, like, just keep everyone on their toes in regards to my fighters improving so that they can be there for. or the gym will I'm away. Because, you know, when you're training for a fight, you really do have to, like, kind of be selfish

and focus just on the fight and sacrifice a lot for it. So I'm not, I'm there for the guys, but I'm not in a lot of ways. So I really do want to get more. I wanted that little bit of a gap for personal reasons as well. Like I wanted to improve and add some new, new aspects to my game, even more so again, like I added the wrestling to my game for the last camp and now I just added a few new tricks

as well and I got to really work on the athletes in my gym and help the growth of my gym and it also would help me to just save up for the start of my next camp which is going to AKA again and then run into September with the guys up in HQ and Team Rhino. Right so I mean it isn't a case of Bellator not trying to match you it's just that at the moment it doesn't really work out for you. I mean, June isn't an ideal situation for you, basically. Of course, of course. Of course, they were looking for me to fight in June.

It was ideal for everybody that fought in the Irish card on February 23rd on that night to be fighting again in June, because it was perfect timing in between, but I just chose to ring Jude, be very straight with him. He's a great guy. He's a friend of mine, I consider it this stage also, so he completely understood my situation.

And we're going to be looking for a fight in September. and then in December as well. So we'll go from there. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I'm glad to hear that because just when I was talking to Peter that time, and I knew the interview was going to go out, obviously, and I was thinking, is this going to kick off the whole SBG favoritism thing? But from what I'm hearing from you, you're happy with your situation there.

Oh, yeah, I was very happy with my situation. I chose to be where I am and to fight in September and December and December, because I do need to, I do need to, I miss being a bigger part of my gym when there's no fight coming up, you know? And obviously competing on high-level stages like that and being part of fights like that is like a big part of doing things for the gym because it's obviously like...

Putting in the shop window basically, yeah. Of course it does, yeah, but I also need to invest just my time with the guys as well, you know, like teaching and training with them individually and bringing them places to train with me and, you know, and all that. So it just need, I need to find that fine. balance that's all you know and it was it it just i think peter's just making himself feel a bit better by saying that he's kind of rewrote out a list i think as to the reasons why they didn't and how he's the

favorite but like he would say that wouldn't he like that's just the nature of the game i was i was wondering like did you get to see his comments on the fight like i mean um i think peter to be fair a lot of people were you know full of praise for peter when he came out after the fight and he spoke to the media it's always tough to take a loss and to do that we always kind of take off our hats and the guys you do with that. But it seems like now that he's watched the fight, he's seen some polls online, and he's very confident that he won that fight.

Does that leave a bad taste in your mouth? Because it seemed that everything was kind of squashed between you guys that night. It doesn't really leave a bad taste in my mouth because I try not to connect myself with how Peter feels. I just feel like I'm as, I'll just connect with that kind of attitude then, and I'll just become that attitude.

And I'd rather just accept the way it had. the way he acted after the fight, I thought, was very respectful, and I was very impressed with how he went on. And I thought that he was going to really grow as an athlete because of the way he conducted himself after the fight. And now I just feel like it was all fake. And he just wanted to be more superficial about it, just be more kind of just come across like that.

So people thought better of him. And I know I think that he's just kind of like, his real kind of outlook on what happened is come out now, and his recent interviews and as time has gone on so that's how I kind of feel about with now anyway do you are you happy with like

the level of kind of it feels like to me that your stock got pushed up an awful lot from that fight I mean like it was the fight that everybody was talking about you know and the result mattered you could feel it when everybody

standing waiting to hear that decision it mattered to the people that were in the crowd do you feel like you got the payoff from that like from getting that big win a huge grudge match do you feel like you've got to pay off from that of course they do yeah

I feel like I definitely got a lot of recognition because of that fight, and I got of a lot of respect because of that fight, and they're the type of fights I want to be part of, of course I do, you know. But I want to do it in the right way, where I'm just purely speaking my mind, like the first interview we did when I was overtraining in AK, you know, when I'm just purely speaking about how I feel, and if it builds grey hype around the fight,

then I'm going to go with that, of course, you know. but in my opinion my stock did raise in the fight and it's going to follow true into September and then competing in December as well for sure. Yeah and I mean talking about that

September date I mean we don't us media guys anyway we don't know what date they're planning for that Irish show but every Irish fighter I talked to that signed or Belator is talking about September and how they want to be on that card. Yeah. Are you certain you will be on that card and do you have a preferred opponent you'd like to face

in that situation? Um Oh, Jesus. That's a bit of a double-barrel question there. I'm sorry about that much. Sorry, sorry. You always throw the tricky question with me, don't you? I've been waiting for this for months.

Yeah. I'd like a fight with Chris Bungard, actually. I think that makes sense, as Peter's fighting Brazier. And I think Chris Bungar is a very good fighter as well. I think he's tough. He's durable. And I feel like that, I mean, like,

You know, he bet Brazier and I think that, like obviously I bet Peter, so the two winners should compete against each other. And I think he's just making himself feel better by putting up that post about Bungar, the sparring post. I honestly feel like that. I understand how people hype up fights and stuff like that. Like the likes of Richie Kiley, he hipes up fights very, very well. But, like, you know, he's a really good guy too.

I know Richie Kiley and he's a really good guy. and I feel like Peter actually believes this stuff that he says and I feel like that it's an unspoken rule within the professional fighter community and just in martial arts and just athletes in general, martial artists in general that you don't boast about how you beat somebody in a spar you know, it's not really, you know, respectful

and I really don't think he should have done it and I feel like that he genuinely was doing it as well to push up the fact that oh, the guy I'm fighting is much better than Bungard, you know. And look, there's reasons why people don't live up to their expectations on fight night. You know, everybody makes a mistake, could be emotional, you might have prepared right, because of personal reasons or whatnot, you know. You can't judge someone a lot of the time from that, you know?

Like, you know, he could go in and, like, you know yourself, you go in and he compete against guys and you have up and down performances. So I feel like that was a little bit out of order. And, you know, that was it? Yeah, and I mean, do you feel like, I mean, obviously, you're saying like you guys both win you and Chris so you should fight and then obviously we know that Peter's fighting Terry is there any part to you that's saying that maybe this Peter and the post that he put up that kind of promotion that might get him that fight ahead of

you like as in it's nearly like the whole sport versus entertainment argument again isn't it? Yeah I I could see I could see why it would be a marketing thing as well like of course he's trying to build up a fight and he's trying to do this and do that but I just feel like it came across is a little bit bitter because of it was a sparring war you know what I mean and you can't really in my opinion like you shouldn't boast about those things but just on a respectful thing

and Chris seemed to be he spoke very highly of Peter and he actually spoke very highly before our fight too like he was saying all best of skill and all this and he's going to smash me and all that which is understandable obviously because he thought he was he was part of their team

he was only supporting one of his own so yeah Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting. That's what I thought as well. I always saw Chris. When I talked to Chris, he'd often tell me I'm over an SPG a lot of the time. So I always saw him as an SPG guy. I guess that's why I was particularly taken back by the situation, you know? Yeah, yeah, for sure. I was taken back by too. But sure, look, some of my business, I'm just looking at from an outside perspective and it looks fuck. But in a way, though, I don't want him to overstep the market in regards of taking a step ahead of me either. Like, beaters. trying to sneak in the back door and take away from what happened that night. You know, I won that fight. And regardless of what he says in regards to performances and going,

oh, lads did that to Miles in the past and whatnot, you know. Like, I'm just a smarter fighter now. That's all, that's all, you know, a lot smarter fighter. I went to AK. What did he expect when they came back? You know, I was going to strike with him. I was going to dirty boxing. Of course I was going to wrestle.

I was going to do whatever I needed to do that night. And he had to do, implement his game plan and stop it. If he's not able to adapt in the middle of a fight, that's absolutely nothing to do with me. He should have a better IQ than that, and he should adapt a lot faster. And that's just simple as that. If you mirror the performances and he performed, like, the way I did, I guarantee he wouldn't be saying anything about his performance. Like Norman Park did that to me, and I didn't have a bitter taste on my mouth.

I just had a little bit of beep with Norman because of how he goes on after the fight where he's disrespectful and stuff like that. but it's nothing to do with his performance. He was the better man that night, and I think Norman's a fantastic fighter, and if you go in there against him, it's up to you to do something about the way he fights, because he does what he does very, very well.

Absolutely, and I mean, as you said to me there, I think you're planning another trip to AKA. Is that correct? I know you're in Spain at the moment, but is your plan to go back out to AKA before September? Yeah, I'm going out June 15th, and I'm going to go for six weeks, week so I'll be back July 30th so I'm a little bit half the time that I went last time but I'd rather have half the time as well because I'd just rather just go there like none my girlfriend ain't going to be out there my brother isn't going to be out there so I'm going to really be able to focus knuckle down and just bring it to the next level again and I miss the guys out there too I love the training out there and I love just kind of focusing on just training and no distractions outside of that like you know right right and I know for a long time you would kind of tell me that ideally with this Bellator situation, you'd get off to a win against Quirley and then

potentially fighting San Jose sometimes because we know Bellator is a great stronghold there. Is that still one of your goals? Oh, for sure. Yeah, I'd like to fight in San Jose. That's one of my short-term goals for sure. You know, I'd like to get, if there was a San Jose car in December, I'd love that. Like, you know, I'm not sure what's going on in December. Like, you know, but I'd like to fight then as well. And if not, I'd like to look at it.

just fighting in America in generally fantastic and if I had to have my way it would be second I was it yeah because I do I'm going to start like all my camps at AK and then when I'm going to do half and half you know mainly I'd like to be there for a lot of it in in HQ because I need to be there for my teammates as well

you know we all got to blow sweat and tears together you know yourself so yeah and I mean it's not like they don't have a really high profile fight they'll be getting ready for over there in September themselves you know with Khabib and Porre. Yeah, that's right, actually. I was kind of backtracking the dates and I know that could be trains there for eight weeks ago. So I'll be there for three weeks of his camp. So I'm going

to be looking forward to that and getting a few spires and with him again. It's going to be good. Brilliant, man. Males, come here. Thanks so much for getting on to us. I know you're away on holidays and I really, really appreciate the time as always. No, no. Anytime. I enjoy your peters. It's good. Great catching up with you again. All right, man. Well, enjoy the rest of your holiday and I'll speak to you soon, man. Yeah, thanks very much. I'll chat you soon. Bye-bye. All right.

And there he was. Splinter himself. All the way in sunny Spain, huh? Splinter, that's interesting. As we, why? It's just not because John O. Eliot is calling me a turtle. John O. Elliott, friend of Noel McGrath, for those who are listening.

He keeps on saying to me, he's going to come up on a Monday night. He wants to. Just get on there? Yeah, just get on. He maybe will give us his thesis on why you're the missing link. Yeah. It's going to be interesting. Weirdo.

Well, he's the one with the hairy back. Me and him are Harryback. gentlemen. We discussed our technique for beating our backs over our way. It is disgusting. I've got to live with it, Noel. All right. We all have our crosses to bear my friend. That is true. So when... Skeletons in my closet. Jesus. I'm off to Stockholm on Wednesday. I have not been in Stockholm since a certain notorious gentlemen. Is that how long you've been? Yeah. I haven't been there since. I was at that. Obviously, you were at that. That was the first time you ever drank together. that was the first

or Medi-Ched. Yeah. So Jesus gives me bad in memories. I'm only you're joking. Now I was there, last time I was there,

I was at the Gustafson Johnson scrap. Oh, right, yeah. That was a great way. Reds are fought, Bechtich. And Siri fought.

Chris Bale. Oh, very good. That was Siri's best performance. That was Siri's best performance. That was Siri's best performance. How many time was Siri in the fucking fight a night and he never got the money? It's a pistake.

Yeah, he might have bought us a point. if you'd got a few comments. It wouldn't bet on that. Yeah, I wouldn't bet on that either. But yeah, no,

it's a good place obviously brings back a lot of, and I'll be seeing Big Phil, Big Phil O'Connor. Oh, unfortunately. Guardian Angel. Gandalf.

I love Phil. Oh, what are you going to do? Any plans? Just kiss Phil. That's absolutely grotesque. It's not, listen,

I can get around that beard. Suck his beard. Jesus Christ. Fucking hell. Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing all the Swedish guys, Asher and.

The Seb. Seb. Yeah. That was a great guy. Per. Per. All of the dudes. All the dudes.

I'm looking forward to the fights, of course, as well. Are you playing with your microphone? Yeah, I am. Sorry, I'm just... I didn't know. I thought to have you had some serious issues there. But, Champions League Final. Yeah.

Like, I mean, how much would it hurt you if Liverpool won that? Oh, it's... Yeah, it's hurting already. Do you think they will? No, I actually do fancy spurs. I fancy spurs to do it. I think they have to not play Harry kind of. I think having came out the last few months,

they've set up differently. But he's such a big personality. Harry, Harry Hedge, like, I think we played pretty well, you know. He's very exciting man on the mic, all right? Awful. But I think if they create the midfield and they do what they did in the game

against Liverpool and Anfield, where they're all over Liverpool for the last 20, 25 minutes, boss the midfield, they'll create a chance of team in Liverpool won't be able to live with them. and I think Yergan Klopp is a bottler as well in finals and I think the bottle is going to continue with Liverpool and I very much hate Liverpool FC so

I'm very much in Totten's. I have a lot actually in fairness. A lot of the lads, friends of mine are Spurs fans as well and I hate Liverpool so. Well, I usually find that you're more hostile when your friends love things, that you'd kind of go against it more. That's a shock to me. That's rubbish.

How did you get that? Just by dealing with you on a daily basis. It's very hurtful. It's very hurtful. I don't even know if I'm going to be able to see it because I'll be obviously working. I'll be able to, I'm sure they'll have it on somewhere of their big foosball fans in Scandinavia. So you'd be able to watch loads of Liverpool fans in Scandinavia as well. 30 years it was, or sorry, 20 years yesterday since Manchester United won the treble.

Oh, yeah, it was a lawyer for that. Back in the glory days when watching football didn't make me want to pierce my eyeballs with a knife. They're terrible to shower now, aren't they? It's just a waste of time for me. I just can't. They're just Instagram. I don't understand how people don't understand that. Like, I'm watching a football match to be entertained.

And when I stop being entertained, I'm not watching the football match. And that's literally what's happening now with Manchester's the way. I mean, I'll go and see my friends. It's like a social thing. I don't feel bound to a club. If you're playing shit, I'm gone, mate. I don't care. Yeah.

It's called Fairweather. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. And it's sad that grown men cry about these things still. Yeah, I don't know you more. I mean, we remember that. We remember that semi-final, Noel, those tweets. The funniest things.

Like, I don't think I laughed as much at anything this year. Disgusting was the term you used for that miracle turnaround. Yeah, listen, I just have... I just have Sparrest Day out at the weekend. I'll be in bad form next Monday. Believe me, you. Oh, yeah. I'll be probably...

We probably won't talk about it. Should I just go ahead and record the podcast with somebody else over there and send it to you? Possibly should. Possibly should. Possibly should. But, yeah, it's going to be, it's going to hurt a lot if they win. But, you know, Lancaster won the Pro 14 their last weekend, so it was all right. Yeah, what's Pro 14?

That's a lot of bollocks, really. It's no Hineken Cup, which they lost. Yeah, absolutely. The showish match. Played like a bunch of losers. There is a lot of sport coming on. I'm excited. But I'm not actually, I don't know.

Sports doesn't excite me. I hate sports, all sports. Well, this has been a deep dive into the mind of Noel McGrath. And, lads, that's all we really have time for you is this week. We'll be back with a full. stocked show next week. You're going to put the porch with me? When are you going?

Thursday, week. Thursday, week. So you'll be home when I go on. Yeah. And then I'll do it. Can you bring your laptop away? I'll always do it. I'll do it on Skype.

So you can all join me on the beach in Marquinios. Yeah, with the single show. Or don't make sure you're going to put Wifoy's on through. No. Well, that's all we have time for it. We'll love you loads. Enjoy your week. And I will see you when I put you back down in our

When I won't see you as I'll talk to you. You know, movies anyway. Bye-bye.