MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 38 (w/ Joanne Calderwood, Petr Yan)

Episode Date: June 5, 2019

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Joanne Calderwood (19:45) eyes a title shot beyond her UFC 238 clash with Katlyn Chookagian and Petr Yan (54:30) puts the bantamweight division on notice ahead of his pivotal meeting with Jimmie Rivera. Hosts Peter Carroll and Niall McGrath look at the latest European MMA headlines. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Noel, how are you, babes? Yeah, yeah. Right for him. Look at him. He's buzzing. He's buzzing. I think he should be buzzing because he's in the company

of the 100th most influential journalist in Ireland. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Does you like the master's, aren't you? Was it something to do with being an arsehole or something? What are you thought?

Were you nice? You fucking root free. I'm sorry, he's just inundated with, you know, know, congratulations. I had my assistant handle most of them, to be honest with you. Do you want talking to the microphone probably? The most influential journalist in the world? This is a new thing I'm trying to do. I'm trying to change the game now. Everybody's going to be recording podcasts with the microphone across the room from now on. No. Well, I was in Stockholm and I fell in love with a fast food restaurant called Max Burger.

Yeah, you tell me you you've been every day, did you? It was very bad to be, to be honest with you. I had it every single night. It was nice? It was beautiful, but I mean... Burgers? but so many burgers what kind of burgers well you see it was getting like the say their version of the big Mac

trying to explore that but only on the last they do but it's um it's not as good as uh Max and I was actually told by the MMA knit lads I was doing it all wrong you're not meant to get the big Max in there you're meant to get the small cheeseburger so I got a rake at em on the last night

destroyed myself lovely yeah yeah it was very good great to see Phil O'Connor great to see all the traveling media the MMA crazies the MMA Nietz guys, the full reptile gang. Loved every second. No, no, I'm a grand, Sweden. It was tough. It was tough, you know.

I needed someone to hold at the end of the night, and there was no one there. Phil unfortunately had to go back to his family at some stage, you know? What was your hotel like? It was lovely, yeah. Sweet. Yeah, it was really nice. And it was in a cool spot as well.

But, yeah, lots happened, as we know. So we may as well take a look at the... Retirements. Yeah, the night of retirements. Let's look at these news headlines. Alexander Gustafson, Jimmy Manoa, and Nick Hain all retire following their fights at U.S.C.S. Stockholm. Alexander Gostafson lost to Anthony Smith via fourth round submission, excuse me.

Jimmy Manna was on the end of a vicious knockout from Alexander Rackage in the first round over there, Lloyd Heavyweight Meeting, which is also the Comain event. And Nick Hine retired after, I believe, was a second round TKO by Frank Camacho. So, yeah, I mean, that's a lot going on. And when I was thinking about this, that I know, Gostafson, Manoa, and Hain have all done so much respectively for their scenes but Gostafsons a legend of the European scene as we know

Yeah Nick in Germany Yeah Nick Nick was the guy who was often rolled out To talk to the media because he's such a So many times Yeah a fantastic You know a representative for MMA as in he kind of breaks all the Stereotypes he's an actor over there Everything like that

Former police officer Yeah and so it's amazing to see him go And then of course Jimmy Mano is headline two UFC London cars which is a nod to his popularity over there, but yeah, I totally agree with everything you said there, but not one of them surprises me at all. No, and I think it's, you know,

I would say that we will probably see the last, we've probably seen the last of those three guys, and that's probably the way it needs to be, and I mean, so many times these MMA retirements, me and Phil O'Connor talked about this in the post voice show. Phil doesn't think, and he'd know Alex a lot better than we would, he doesn't seem to think that Gustafson's a type of man to mince words and retire if he absolutely doesn't mean he's going to

with that. Yeah, listen, I'd agree which is to a certain extent as well. And listen, we even touched on it last week. We sort of you know, I mentioned anyway, and I think you agree with me that you know, if they did lose these fights, you know, where

were they going to go? And that's where I'm not surprised. Alex Galanganaik Stafson has sort of been playing with it for the last two, three years. We've talked about it as long, I'm sure as two years ago, that we, you know, will Alex come back? You know, will he come back? He wants to get the title. He's always said it and I think that was just the final nail in the coffin for Alex

especially after having the title shot last time is the motivation gone and it's crazy because I felt as though we'll talk about this more later I felt as though he was just coming back into the contest around round three I thought he won that round and then it was just that mistake he tried to throw Anthony and Anthony of course bulldozed into the ground and got that rear naked choke Jimmy Manna was you know that was a that's as bad as knockouts get really yeah or he wasn't outside for that I only got out for the main event but you know it's one of those where I see guys working in this industry for many, many years,

and when they're coming up to you afterwards and they're very concerned about someone, and they're talking about being down, maybe always closed for three minutes. That's, you know, it's tough to see that from Jimmy. A guy who has given us so much in the octagon. A guy who was always brought a fan-friendly style and always went to war, basically, for us.

Hard to see that happening, you know? Yeah, the last four fights in Jimmy's. Treat them are knockouts, yeah. Yeah, and I think, you know... Was the Jan Blackovich? Was that the decision? Decision, yeah. And that was a crazy fight.

Like in terms of like the amount of the damage that both guys took in that fight. Compared to the first fight between the two, it was a lot better. And I think, you know, and we often say this, and I think it's, it sort of makes you realize that your career could take a different trajectory on one single night. And I, you know, I look back as far as the Vulcan-Osd-Dermere fight when he got viciously knocked out in that fight as well. it's been a tough one for Jimmy. I think he alluded to the concussions. And when you start talking about that, man, just get out of here. And I am pleased.

I think, you know, for Jimmy, he obviously only came into the UFC late. He turned down a couple of contract offers. And I think maybe if he'd take him to sport a little bit sooner, obviously 26, I believe he was when he took up the sport. Maybe those few extra years we might have seen a different Jimmy Mano. And I just felt over the last three, four fights, this was inevitable. and it's come. And listen, Jimmy's a lovely guy.

I know you get on one of them well as well. Pleasure to watch him fight. But yeah, once you start talking about concussions, yeah, it's time to just step away and look after your brain because I know Jimmy is a family as well. Things like that. It's very worrying, I'm sure, for them watching that. Absolutely.

And just a big thank you to those three guys. Yeah, 100% Nick as well. Yeah, fantastic ambassadors for European MMA. Although it was at Jimmy Manor's expense, as predicted, Alexander Rackich announced himself in the division in thunderous fashion. And look, we don't really want to get into it, given Jimmy's situation, having just retired. But I think that's exactly what he wanted to do. Talking to him beforehand, he said, I want to be the guy people are talking about on Sunday morning.

And maybe if Gustafs had him retired, he might have got more headlines. But look, this guy is, it feels like we have a new European contender in the mix, which is always very promising. European, remember that. No, listen, it was. absolutely stunning. We talked about it last week. We did expect to finish and we did expect the statement. We got it incredible fashion.

New contender and along the lines maybe of Santos this summer and we're going to see him fight John Jones. I think he's one of these guys that can legitimately give John Jones problems and anyone with that one-punch knockout power is... Or kick power in that case. Our kick power in that case is someone that's going to give John Jones a little bit of

a problem when he's going in. He's also in that kind of developmental stage of his career where he's learning so much. He's like a sponge. You can see nearly every fight. Now he didn't get to see a lot of him there. But I mean, even since his UFC debut, the four fights he's had, he's completely evolved as a fighter. Against Justin Liddette, we saw

such a wrestling heavy performance. For a guy who was just known as this striker coming in, I was blown away by it, to be honest. Say one thing there on that, you know, with the UFC in terms of, you know, giving guys a little bit of a kick. I think they really need to start getting behind Alexander now

after that performance. And as well, you know, someone who's obviously out injured, and now he's not out for long in terms of Johnny Walker. Like, they should be doing more work with him. He's a remarkable guy. And it's frustrating, again, to see this happen. It's the week-by-week situation

where you're just jumping from car to car. It's very hard to push a guy. I mean, even for us guys, the media, like, we're basically onto the next week as soon as the fight happens. It's unfortunate, but that's just the way it is. Now, some even bigger news came true just before I left to come down here

and recording The Beautiful South Side. It was Kabib and Magamatoff and Dustin Pori, is happening on September 7th. Now this is quite a big announcement considering that we were still until it's announced, it's not happening in terms of... And yesterday we saw a report as well. Abdul Manop, his father came in and said

nothing was signed off. You know, Connor is still in the running. He said Tony Ferguson was still in the running. It is Porreier, but listen, I'm sure those two other guys would be staying fit in case something happens. I'm sure Porier's going to be sweating all the way to Abedavitt. Exactly. That's what I mean. We saw on Paul out of that an 8-Daz fight

a number of months ago as well. So listen, it's not, I wouldn't rule out anything in that lightweight division. It's such a mental division for everything happening. Leon Edwards looking for the co-main event slot on that card against Rafael de Sanyos. Let's have it. As you said, enough is enough. And speaking to Leon over the weekend, it's kind of funny. Like, he's nearly taking it like a joke that it's been going on so long at this stage.

But unbelievable. It's crazy stuff. Germain Durandami versus Aspen Lad will main event with Sacramento Card in July 13th. That is a fight where... That is a fight. That is a fight. That's a really good fight. and that's a fight where they're going,

you win this, you're probably getting a title shot. You're off to the races, lady. And I think Aspen Ladd is going to win that fight. I'm a big, big fan of Asman Ladd following her career all the way up. And she's just getting better and better every fight. And Jermaine to Rundami, obviously, you know, the first ever UFC, Fed away champion.

Yeah, so it's going to be a real tough test. And she wins that. She's boom. I'm actually, I'm really interesting in that in terms of, like, Aspen Lad, facing a person with one punch stopping power. And there's no doubt about it. Germain has it.

It's a very interesting test for an unblemished record like that for me. Also announced on that card, really excited about this one. It's Europe's own. Mirsad Bechtich versus Josh Emmett. That's a really good fight. Quality fight. I love that. I saw that on Instagram.

That's perfect matchmaking. It is. Really good matchmaking. I think, you know, I often criticise the matchmaking and we look at this weekend's card. You never. You? Never. You?

Come on. We'll talk about it in a few minutes time. But this weekend's card, I think there's, you know, really, really strong matchmaking, top to bottom. in terms of why the division should pan out and I think this is a fight as well Bechtich has been slow there's been a lot of injuries there a lot of things have happened

and you know obviously he's Serbian 100% we're claiming we're claiming I mean he lives in the States but he is Serbian Bosnian sorry oh that's a big insults that's like calling you English yeah sorry

it is actually but yeah I love this fight I think the winner this really could be knocking on the door for a title shot soon as well are you ready it's brilliant are you ready for a fight that you won't like yeah go on

Andre Oloskey v Ben Rothwell the rematch for San Antonio in July 20th look at Noel he's delighted with this he's so happy to see Andre back in there

can he turn around this three fights kid listen he shouldn't be in there we talk about retirements this guy and I don't like saying it this has been very little progression he's regressed if anything

over the last five years and I think you know we looked the Alastair Overeign fighting Rotter on we were at it we covered it we thought that was the natural conclusion. Yeah, and it's, it's just been too long. You just seem to kind of let go, and

I don't like that fight for Alowski. We have another European date that was cemented during the Stockholm broadcast, that is UFC Copenhagen, the first trip to Denmark on September 28. Jack Hermanson wants the main event slot against Calvin Gasolm there. I think

that's perfect. Yeah. Will Calvin want to come to Europe? That's the question. The problem is big enough for Calvin? I don't know. Like, I mean, I think even being in Scandinavia over the weekend, it's just huge there man it's like i mean like that was a terrible time to do that event champions league it was a bank holiday in sweden the marathon was on in sweden the same day as the bleeding event and i mean i think 18 000 people came out to see that so i mean if if they can do that well

on a bad week let's see what they can do in a good week in copenhagen the first time ever and i love going to events when it's the first time ever yeah there's always a buzz there's always a great crack around town and you get an impression of the fans for the first time as well even though we've met these fans many times in nicholas dalby fights and stuff like this and they've always great, to be fair. Yeah, no, listen, Copenhagen's a lovely place, lovely city. Expensive points, yeah. Yeah, I heard that.

Carlsberg, Helmove. But, yeah, I'm just not sure. I don't think Gassam's going to be offered off for some reason. I wonder if, you know, Nicholas Dalby might be around. Well, look, Nicholas Dalby is going to be fighting on the night of champions. Yeah, what's the turn around the dates? It's June, it's three months. Yeah, well, so that's, if he gets a big win, you would imagine, well, actually,

you know, logic doesn't really work a lot of time in the UFC. Tsar and back, could he be? Ongbach, yeah. Why not? Get on back and Dallie. You're never going to let me say that name. No, never, ever. Listen, yeah, UFC don't do logic a lot of the time as we know, but you would think these guys are, you know...

Would make sense. Would make sense because there's such big names in European mixed martial arts and especially obviously very European, sorry, Danish market, should I say. Finally, on the UFC from Timu Paklan, welcomes Ottoman Azatar to the UFC at UFC 242. Azatar's a brave veteran. So that's another one for the Kabib card there. Now

on to Bellator. Peter Quedi is out of his Bellator London clash with Terry Brazer and he's being replaced by Tim Wilde, who we saw lost by Gogolpola to give me the name, give me the name, give me the name. Give me the name. Tim Wilde. Tim Wilde, he lost a Gogol Plata by the guy who beat Michael Chandler

and then... Primus. Yeah, Brent Primus, yeah, that's the one, sorry. Optimus Prime. Optimus Prime. also on that card Walter Gahadza will welcome Oliver Enkamp who we now was signed to the UFC as a hot prospect coming out of Sweden didn't really go his way he's been signed by Bellator that's a good fight for me actually really looking forward to seeing that one yeah there is some good scraps being announced from Bellator at the moment here's another one Charlie Ward v Justin Moore

also be on that card and how about this little doozy I got this morning Leslie Smith will face Chenade Kavanaugh Erland's own I only saw that literally five minutes before you came in at Bellator 2-24 in Thackerville, Oklahoma, I believe. I don't like that for Schneid. It's a huge chance to step up. It is. But it is also a massive risk. I mean, Leslie is a stalwart.

Like, I mean, she's a tough as they call. Diaz sister, man. Yeah. And I mean, she's got a very underrated ground game as well. And boxing ability. Well, I don't think, look, Shnade's a national champion over here. I don't think she's going to be able to weigh in there. Her ground game is awesome, man.

And Leslie's very underrated striking, though, as far as, like, as far as I can remember. A lot of people remember just her like, you know, her face or durability. But she hangs in there, man. She does. But I think if you're looking at strengths and weakness. She's been in there with the best, man. She's been in there with the best. And it's it. As you said there, it is a big risk for Chenet. But if she can get

over that, you know, sometimes you know, the risk weighs, what is it again? The reward. The reward. Sorry, Jesus Christ. That's a few days of feck all sleep. But yeah, I just think Leslie Smith in this occasion, it could be

a little bit too much too soon, you know, what you need, you know, a couple of losses. Hasn't really got any real momentum in Bellator and I think that's been a problem. And, you know, maybe... This is a way to turn it all around. Maybe this is a way to turn it all around and, and, you know, with a win over Leslie Smithman, that is a scalp and a half. But it's two and three now with...

It's going to be interesting the build up to that as well. Yeah. If they go back to the old SBG, you know, Diaz clan and all of us. Oh, okay. They could definitely do that. Because she is... Is Leslie in with the Diaz? Oh, yeah, yeah. All right. I just thought we called her that because she was so... she plays the trumpet yeah she plays the trumpet

okay finally finally and this is one we've been waiting on for quite a while Jack Shaw has signed for the UFC did we not talk about this last week we've been talking about over the last three weeks because we thought it

did we were like Graham had announced that someone had someone had said oh yeah you'd ask you ask me who do you think it is and I said oh we're going to go to the beach and you can get it but I'd been I've been trying to get this info and Jack

Jack's always so good at getting back and he just stopped writing to me so I was like yeah you got signed mate but yeah it's great like as we said before no one deserves it more on this scene like in terms of the Cage Warriors talent he's top of him up he's top of the pops absolutely really good signing for the UFC

another crazy good guy added to that already epic division and man it's just it's getting to a case where you're looking at looking at Wales and you're just gone Holy fuck. Is this ever going to stop the amount of guys they're producing? It's great to see.

They used to say that about Ireland. What have we got? Two fighters left in here? Three. Two? Oh, yeah, two, yeah. Well, Johnny Walker as well. Yeah, obviously.

Yeah. If you're going to take Alexander Rackage. Oh, a Rackett. And then Mirosat-Bect. Alexander Rackage. Yeah, that's all the news there. I mean, that's a healthy amount of news for that. that week. I'm sure I missed loads as well because I only had one eye on it because of the

Stockholm situation. Yeah, no, it's only. There was, there wasn't a massive amount. That feels like a massive amount we just went through. No, it does. Yeah. There's a lot there and there probably is a few other fights floating around. I can't think of off my head as either, but they're the ones to stand out for me. And listen, man, I think, you know, people complain a lot of the time in mixed martial arts and we've had an unbelievable amount of high level fights, high-level matchups in the last number of weeks and I think we should be grateful because we've a really good summer of fights to look forward to, you know,

starting this weekend, I know we're going to talk about it later on. I don't care if you don't want to talk about it. I'm talking about it because it's Tony Ferguson back in there against Cowboy Soroni. I cannot fucking wait for that fight, man. Yeah, it's going to be a big week, but before we have a look at the week ahead, let's take a chat with our first guest of the evening.

It's Miss Joe, Joe Collarwood, who has a massive fight this weekend. My God, how is this fight the open, why is this curtain jerking for the card? I think it's because the card's so good, man. No, you could clearly put that in a more prominent place on the card. You're cool, but look at the card. No, but that's ridiculous.

This is a number one contender for a title fight, basically. It is, but maybe it's there for a reason. People, you know, maybe numbers were dwindling on the UFC five-past to wet the appetite. Very, you know, they do weird things to UFC. Well, I'm not happy with it. And look at, look at Mr. Company man, McGraw over there, finally congratulating the UFC on the decision they've made.

No, well, let it. on, let's be honest. I know it's probably should be hired up, but look at some of the fights, man. You've Eddie Wine and return as well.

I'm excited about that man. Yeah, yeah, that's bigger than Jojo and Caitlin Chugagia. No, no, it's not, but, like, listen, okay.

Yeah, I agree, but there is, there is a savage card. I was shanty about that before on it. Yeah, well, let's wait for the card to we talk to the car.

Okay, all right. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm in, I'm in, I'm going to fack a porto. I'm going to have to I'll be on a field on my phone at about 3 a.m. locked watching it.

Legally. And yeah, so let's talk to Jojo Calder, which was on our way to the airport here while she was talking to me. So I really appreciate our patience. She is a star, and this is really a huge fight for European MMA. Imagine how cool that would be having Jojo fight for a title after the roller coaster she's been on for the last few years. It would be amazing.

So here's Jojo. We'll be back in about 15. Finally, we are once again joined by a European fan phrase. favourite and a woman who has a particularly crucial fight this weekend, Ms Joanne Calderwood. Joanne, thank you so much for joining me, I appreciate it. No, why? Thanks for having me. Now, I got to say, it seems based on your social media, it seems like quite a relaxed fight week this week. I saw you were playing Top Golf last night. How is that? I mean, I was going to play it once

while I was in Las Vegas, but I didn't get around to do it. It seems you were victorious this time around. Is that the truth? Yeah, so I played back in Scotland with my... brother that's the way we kind of bond because we don't get to see each other very often so he's really into golf and he's just taught me a few things over the past few years and I really like the first I just I loved it the first time I tried it and then yeah I just got kind of not good like last night I was really rusty because I hadn't played in so long but yeah I love it quite frustrating game but at the same time it can

a trade good into the fighting game with trying to stay calm and trying to just let your body take over and the left into each shot so yeah we I've been wanting to go to top ball for a while

and John that's six for last night and it was good to take my mind off right we can relax a little bit but still can be active yeah and I mean I love this and I think I think I speak on behalf of the whole fan base when I say I love this new Jojo. You seem like you're in such a fantastic place.

And I really feel as though that's reflected in your performances. Would you agree with me? Yeah, I think it all plays apart as well as going up and waiting and fighting it more natural way. And yeah, just finding my groove again and finding a good environment and a good place where I can excel is the next martial artist that I want to be. Yeah, and I mean, I'm just going to get one negative thing I have to say about this fight out of the way first, and I promise I won't return to it. But why is this the first fight in the car of Joanne?

I mean, my God, it's a pivotal fight in your division, and I really don't understand it. I know you probably don't care much about it, but it seems a bit crazy, right? You guys are right at the top of that division? Yeah, well, top five, I'm just outside. to pot five and number six right now. But I feel, yeah, I was a little bit shocked because I've never, even in my multi-career, I've never been the first sight. Exactly.

But the way I'm looking at, just because I'm still on standby for that fatal shot, you know, anything can happen, even like a few hours before it happens. So I'll be ready to do my job with Caitlin and then be still on standby. well yeah maybe even two in one night but um you know

when we were speaking to you ahead of the Ariane Lipsky fight and what you were kind of saying to me was you know you felt like this was a fight that you could really go to Warren and you put on a spectacular striking performance against Lipski who was one of the great European prospects before she got in there with you

did that quench your thirst for that kind of battle you were looking for yeah I'm always looking for the top challenge and you know it's crazy. Like this whole game is a mental cluster fuck. Like, you know, like she was coming in with a lot of hype

and it's just crazy what the, what social media can do. And I mean, I nearly bought into it. Like, Craig Rick, I was like, oh shit, man, I better, like,

maybe this girl is legit. But then I was like, no, I'm not going to feed into that. I believe in myself. And I believe in all my experience. And, you know, it's just, it's crazy how the social media and the fans can play a part into someone who hates. And I just went out and done my job and I was, I was leaving myself. And I feel like I wasn't even 100% in that fight.

And I still put on that dominant performance. And, like, I took, like, obviously I wanted to stand with her. And I showed that I could stand with her. but I want to show that as a mixed martial artist, I'm evolving and my whole all-round game is getting better every fight. Yeah, that's amazing that you... It's amazing that you highlight that the social media kind of perception of these fighters can play into an opponent's mind ahead of this.

I'd say that was a great valuable learning curve though as well, like for you to just say, like, it doesn't matter what everybody's saying. I'm the one who has to go in there, and of course, you had your... hand-raising court in emphatic fashion that night. Yeah, and like everyone, like, you know, the saying it never gets any easier. That's the truth. If anything, it gets harder,

especially the pressure that we are under and each level you go up, you know, that pressure gets a little bit harder. And it's just being calm and it is actually believing in yourself and not buying into anyone else's opinions or like opinions and yet just being positive and believing in yourself. Yeah, no, and it's great.

And it absolutely worked in your favour of that now for sure. But I mean, when you think about Caitlin, are you expecting a very different kind of fight against Caitlin? Or what do you expect from her when you get in there? Yeah, completely different. Like, Ariana, she came to fight, and you've seen that in all of her fights. But with Caitlin, it's like her last two fight, she does, our first two rounds is like on the, like,

not really engaging on her back foot and she's running away from it and she's on the outside of the cage a lot, then she'll pressure forward in the last round. But I've watched our earlier footage and we're just, like, I've done what I can and if not more and I'm just going to go in and see I've covered all areas and I believe in my abilities and yeah I'm just going to go in there and let my body do the work and react and over the flow for the kill yeah and I mean it is a very pivotal fight like when I when I think about it like you know um jukagans in that top five as you mentioned like I feel like this this a win here could be enough for you to to get this title shot is that the way you're looking at it

Yeah, the last person that beat Caitlin was now is now like number one contender and fighting this weekend for that title shot. So yeah, I'm looking at it is that and just this is my, this is, I'm finally on the right path to the title shot and I feel like I believe in my capabilities and finally got everything that's going in the right direction. So there's no route for me. even if it's not the next site, the one after that I just have to keep winning and putting on great performances and also

keep up on a goal is get involved in every fight in every camp. And does it help your case? Do you feel that because the title is being decided at the top of this car, do you feel like, you know, get a win there, you're going to stay fresh in the

fans and the matchmaker's minds when it comes to deciding on the next toilet shop for whoever wins that goes away from the fight with the belt that night? Yeah, definitely. I don't think it's a coincidence that I'm fighting on the same card as them, you know. If I thought maybe, like, I'd be if anything happened, like if any injuries, you know, a sport is known for things to happen in the work. So, and I'm still on the ball for, you know, something could happen this week.

so I don't think it's a coincidence and I definitely think with a good performance on Saturday that I'll be next in line Yes and I know I know everyone in Europe is hoping it will be that way and I'm just going back to our last conversation

I can remember how excited you were just at the thoughts of Shevchenko and Joanna kind of facing off because as we know you're a spectacular stroke you've been striking your whole life and those two fighters of course from striking backgrounds too Like, I mean, are you still looking at this in this way, as in Valentina is most known for a striking skill set?

As are you, even though we've seen this great evolution with your groundwork, but do you still kind of rub your hands together when you kind of think about facing one of these champions from a striking skill set? Yeah, and I would say it was more so at the start in my career because I was so into my striking, but now I'm, like, more into being a mixed martial artist. and yeah I still love my strength and my roots as a whole and yeah it gets it gets me excited to fight another striker because people see me as you know at the top level at top level striker so it's always good to keep challenging those my mind and the fans mind at best and like especially in my last fight I felt like yeah that still keep keeping. me up there of people talking that she's got great striking and that

kind of thing so that means a lot to me but as for the title fight I just feel like for Valentina she has a good reputation with the USC and the UFC fans like her first flyweight fight she

she kind of made a statement with that girl so she's already got a good reputation whereas Jessica has not really got that reputation I've been a bad gas as much as Valentina, so that's why I would want to fight her. And do you think, like, I mean, do you think that's the way it will go? I know that Valentina's heavily favored here.

Like, do you feel like that's the way the fight will go, that she'll have her hand raised again? Yeah, I definitely, my money's on Valentina for sure. Yes, and I mean, just to speak about your evolution on the ground, because it has been really, really a sight to behold. do you feel as though the attention you're giving this now, the leaps and bounds we've seen you improve, like do you feel like it's nearly like when you start something off again and you're learning so quickly, you're nearly like a sponge, which are new team, do you feel like it's giving you that kind of

those big gains, let's say, in the jiu j grappling sections? Yeah, and I was always good at jiu jihitsu before. Like I came from a more traditional jihitsu, but I feel like now comes to syndicate and learning under John Wood he puts everything together it's not like a jujitsu lesson it's a MMA jiu jih Tzu lesson

so that helps me put that helps me understand this and it helps my scramble and that's the way it should be you know I'm not doing jiu jihitsu for jiu jiu jih Tzzi I'm doing jiu jiu jitsu to get back to my feet or to submit someone so I think that's really important

and now I just feel like everything flowing together. He's put the glue into my game and everything glued together now so I can work from that and I can excel. And also also training with Roxanne. You know, she's really good on

the ground and we both like we both like get better every day because we're always challenging each other and it's just great to have someone like that to study with every day and That's up real quick

and that's also a great aspect. Does it nearly work in your favor because people see you as this striker? Look, I've seen your guard. It's incredible. You know, you have fantastic submissions from your guard. Do you feel like it nearly works in your favor because people might think they've avoided a lot of threats

once they get you to the ground? Yeah, it's definitely better from... And that's why I try and show that in fight because you know your opponents are always watching. for each. And you know what? I want to inspire people to

evolve with the game. You know, it's always changing and we're always seeing different techniques and stuff. So I want to be part of that. JoJo, what would it mean for you to fight for that UFC goal? It's been quite an adventure with the UFC and it feels like you're right on the cusp of becoming that next contender.

What would it mean for you? Like, do you ever think about that? think about the years you've put into this sport. Do you ever think about what it would mean to finally fight for that? There'd just be like I don't like seeing people crying on the Elkigone

but I think I'm going to be one of those people but like no one knows how until you're actually in this sport and you do the journey. It's just, I mean life in general is hard and there's a lot of ups

and down. So yeah, to get a massive reward at the end of it is just, it would leave me speechless and it's like all that time and all that pain and all that, what you put your goddess through is next to worship. Jojo, I know you're just at the airport now, so I'll just ask you one last question before you go. And again, thank you so much for your time. I really, really appreciate it.

And just finally, I mean, what way do you see this going? As you said, Caitlin likes to get on our bike for the first two rounds. Do you feel like this will be a tough fight to find a finishing early on? No, I just, like, obviously I've been seeing things going. Like, I've just been visualising, like, going in there and seeing my shot land and stuff. I know she's tough, like, she's never, I don't think she's ever been stopped. So she has definitely going to be a tough opponent, but, you know, I'm going to go in with a killer. instinct and just do what I can to get that dominant

stoppage or dominant decision. And then we'll see you take the mic and cut a wrestling like promo hopefully about how you should fight for the title. Sorry. Then you're going to get on the mic afterwards and do a wrestling promo to get yourself that title hopefully. Yep, I'm going to be on there ready to go and, yeah. I'll probably be ready that night.

Jojo, thank you so much and I really appreciate it and I can't wait to see a fight again and I wish you the best of look on fight night. Okay. Thank you so much. Bye, bye, bye. Great to hear from Jojo. What a big, big fight she has.

Very cool for it to get on the phone even though she was in a very stressful situation getting to the airport and stuff like that. It looks like a lot of fighters like Jessica I and even more importantly, media members. Jose Youngs can't get over there. Jose. Have an awful problem.

Pray for Jose. Pray for Jose. There must be awful problems though. It's very frustrating when things like that happen. Really, those are shit when things like that happened. Because it's usually,

you're missing a connecting flight, you're missing something if you do that kind of, if you play it, if you roll that doy. So hope everybody gets there and safe and well and not too much stress involved. But let's take a look back on what happened at UFC Stockholm, my friend. Of course, Anthony Smith there at the top of

a card what a statement he made he's actually exemplary all week with his media and very honest guy unbelievably honest to be honest um yeah unfortunately it resulted in alexander gustafsin's retirement and look even in the media room the uh the swedish media reacting to this you could see how pivotal it was how how much of a big moment it was for the whole scene there for this to happen quite emotional a lot of them um obviously a man who was put sweden on the map a man who was put european MMA on the map to a certain degree, to a huge degree. But, you know, this is how the cookie crumbles. And unfortunately, with this fight, I don't think, like, Anthony Smith gets back to winning

ways, but it's not like here, let's see him against John Jones again immediately. So it's a tough one. Like, he does, he gets back to winning ways, and you could tell that was playing on his mind mentally a lot and lead up to the fight. But who's he going to be put with next is the question, you know, and it's kind of hard to see. Yeah, listen, it is, and we talked about this again. I don't want to go on too much about it last week,

but we did say that, you know, there's a lot of fighters at this card. There was a couple of breakthrough guys which you saw, obviously, Rackich, and it's brilliant, but Anthony Smith, in terms of what he's going to do next, you know, it's going to be three, four fights

and he's going to be hoping that a title change his hands as well, I'm sure, you know, if Santos can do the unthinkable. Unthinkable against John Jones. Alexander Rackich will surely have a huge fight in his next fight. But why not do that? Huh?

Why not do that? Smith and Rackich. It might be a possibility, but I mean, Rackage, was he in the, was he 13th or something? Was he even in the rankings ahead of this fight? I don't even think so, no. I don't think so. So, I mean, it might, like, and even after that, you could, after his big win, Rackage was saying, like, I feel no need to jump to going here.

He's going to take my time. Yeah, and that's the perfect way to do it when you're a young guy coming up to the ranks. So, yeah, amazing win, though. And I'm glad he got to put himself on the map because I've been shouting from the hilltops about this guy for a long time. Yeah, I agree. Mac 1, Ameriani and Chris Fishgold Put on a huge Before we even get to the performance

That fight was floating on the radar When we arrived in Stockholm And straight away, as soon as they were putting In front of the media They were selling the shit out of that fight No, but it was brilliant It's pretty to see Two guys like that

You know, saying some pretty intense stuff to each other Very intense face-offs Like I mean, that was no joke at the media day Even after they faced off And they had their scuffle Chris Fishgoll was being pinned to a wall by Steve Lockstock himself

Wow Yeah like I mean He was going And that mental And then Macwan was just staring At him in the background Smiling at him like He loves stirring the pot

Doesn't mean Like this is what I mean It's straight out of It's a great thing For the UFC to have him there Because he goes in And he makes a fight interesting Straight away

You know And fair play to him He's just The only problem with Macwan And we said it last week Let me go back to last week again He didn't Doesn't fight enough

You know It'd be great if you just got Two, three Four fights in a year And even two or three Yeah It just you know, it boosts his profile or more.

He goes missing for too long. We don't know what he's doing. We don't know where he is. Well, he says he wants to go to the US next. So that would be a big one. We haven't seen him fight the US. I don't know. It's a bit strange.

I don't know. He didn't mention anything about like it's weird or anything. Maybe it's just, you know, obviously with the US now and immigration, it's obviously a lot harder for guys from that region. If you haven't been there before as well, it's a killer. And, you know, but look, Mr. Finland, Copenhagen, if you want to stay active, I'm sure there's going to be a slot available to you. Macwin's Irish.

Yeah, good point. Mr. Ireland. But, yeah, great win over fish. Yeah, Salish. No, it's no mean feat to submit an next-gen black belt. Yeah, and that is unbelievable. We expected that to happen in the fashion.

There was actually no way I saw that result. Yeah, no, I was exactly the same. You know, I think we picked up, you know, fish even last week. But it was just to do it in so quick. Yeah. In such dominant fashion was, it was a real statement, I think. Yeah, I was talking to Sergei after his wrestling coach,

like I know he was saying Jesus like I mean are you are you surprised by that and he goes well like I knew he was capable of it but I mean it's a it's very impressive you know fish gold's no joke man he is an animal on the yeah he is and and you could even see when he had the anaconda on fishy was you know he did not it was no quick tap situation he was struggling to get out there for so long and I've been in those situations before believe me many too many times and it's it's a killer when you when you're trying everything and then you just realized, look, I'm confused. The only one, Matt ones come up short against,

is Arnold Allen. Arnold Allen. Oh, you did it twice, to be fair. That was perfect. It's not easy. Listen, we know how good he is. He's fighting Gil Melendez this summer. And to only drop that.

To win a lot of his other fights, obviously took out Mike Wilkinson when he was on a great role as well. Yeah, I'd like to see a little bit of a step up now. I know Fishy's a really good competitor. Fishy was a step up for me. I know, I agree, but maybe something even higher for Mackin to really give him a good litmus test to see where he is. That was a litmus test, so, you know, let's see another step up. Christoskiagos' second tenure with the UFC gets a win over Damir Hadsovic.

Demir, again, an incredibly intense man, an incredibly ferocious man in the cage. Really, really strong decision win there for me. He probably flew under the radar a little bit. Daniel Timor finally gets his first UFC win over Sun Bin Joe. who was undefeated before that fight Daniel was massively emotional backstage. I mean...

Yeah, well I think there's a lot of pressure or we talked about it. He sat down in front of us then and gave us a litany of positive affirmations. Believe in yourself. Don't ever give up. Believe in yourself. Don't ever give up.

Believe in yourself. Don't ever give up. But his press record walked away. I'll be back in nine minutes. I've got to edit something. Yeah, no, but fair play to him. It's great to see that kind of emotion. It just shows you what it means to these lads.

You know, his career. is UFC 10 years probably on the line. Yeah, and he even said that. He said, you know, the UFC gave me a lot of room. He was very lucky. Like, he was forced to admit it, you know. A lot of other guys are out, like, after that kind of situation. I think you see what him.

There is a lot of really good potential there with the team war brothers. And he did underwhelm. And I think a lot of people were expecting a lot more from him in those last three fights. We didn't get it. So maybe he can kick on now here. And when we're looking at that matchup and we're looking at this undefeated prospect coming in, it's almost like, you know, if you don't get this done, we're basically using you to launch

this goes to career. That's what it was. And he turned the result on its head and kept his UFC contract alive. Yes, yes indeed. Sergei Kandosko got a decision win over newcomer

Rustam Akman. Rustam Akman is a hugely popular fighter in Sweden. I don't know if you saw me. There's a lot of hair all over his body like myself. Yeah. Now, my missus would not let me get into an octagon without beating me first of those in that kind of shape. it was disastrous. Some of that lower back action there

needs to be sorted out, man. Someone needs to have a word. Flee's and all sorts of things. Imagine grappling with that lad and he didn't bring a rash guard. You're all right. Yeah, no, absolutely. Seria could barely walk after that.

So, yeah, fair play to him. Lina Lanzberg, a huge win. Oh, my Jesus. You saw the emotion again. Yeah. You know, at home, a big, big performance for her. Against a legend.

Against a legend. I know what hasn't gone, and we've said this last week, it's not gone Tanya's way in the USC, but it doesn't mean. she's a bad fighter. She's unbelievable fighter. She's brilliant.

You know, and that's a huge win for Lena. And I think she showed us some new aspects of her game as well. Like, I mean, she was in some difficult positions on the ground against Evanger, who's absolutely brilliant on the ground. So I think she'll take a lot away from that. What about Leonardo Santos, man?

Savage, after three years out to go in and do that. To Stevie Ray? Yeah. A man who... Like, Felder's the only guy who probably put him away quickly. We said it, you know? Stevie had to avoid that. And he... And he didn't. And I know it was a stand-up

that ultimately got the job done. But Stevie went in very, very sloppy to that man, turned his head, totally left his left side open. Is there a fear of, like, fighting a guy who's so celebrate, even though we've seen Leonardo knock people out? There's a bit of arrogance. Sure there is. There has to be, no?

Well, I don't know if it's arrogance, but I just don't think if they see the threat unless he's on the ground. Are they really kind of giving this guy to credit he deserves when he's standing, when he's so famous on the ground? No, I don't think they are. And I think if you look back at the Norman Park fight, he could easily hold his dollars on the ground. Oh, he's amazing.

He's a... Sorry, on the feet, I mean, against Norman Park. Sorry. And, you know, we saw that shot. That was very uncharacteristic of Stevie to go in so sloppy and just leave that side open. He's usually got his peas and cues about him very early. And I felt after the feather loss,

we probably never see that again, to be honest. Yeah, yeah, maybe, you know, that feather loss was, I'm sure it was a big psychological blow for Stevie. And even the Jess and the Airy fight, it was a spit decision. I probably called the fight for Jessin if I'm not, if I'm not, if I'm being honest. It's on dodgy terrain now, Stevie. Yeah, but for Santos, let's give him the credit where he deserves here.

He isn't fought in three years, whatever, whatever, he is a five-time Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu world champion. It's a long, long time to go, to not be in the Octagon, to come back in and to do it like a top level of pound. Stevie is a bloody good fighter. Oh, he's unreal. One of the best guys in Europe, you know, in the lightweight division. To go out and do that is a big statement. and Leon Arsantis, man, should be really, really happy.

Can I just give him another... Another bit of credit. I asked him if you got a bonus what he'd spend it on, and he said barbecue. That's a man after me own heart. 100%. Chouhas Maria, my friend.

Was there any nice barbecue? Yeah, there was. Pair from Junkie went one night, but I was uploading video still 4 a.m., so that was standing out for me. But there you go. That's the way the cookie crumbles

when you're on the road. Frank Camacho, huge win for him as well. neither a win. Neither a win against Nick in the legend of the German scene who was subsequently retired after it. Fair play to Nick, man. Nick's a lovely guy. He's a beautiful man.

And I wish him all the best. Like he's one of these guys that I don't worry about post-fight because he has so much things going on. You know what I mean? I always felt as though he was only fighting for pure enjoyment. And if it's not you're not enjoying anymore, that's fine. You know, like I mean he's

been a great servant to German M.A. I don't think the German people will ever forget him. I think he's a young family as well and we talk about that a lot and it's very, very important to keep your mind clear and I think yeah, when Nick Nguyen, he's the acting

he's, you know, he's doing everything and very, very busy guys. A Swiss Army knife. Best of luck to Nick, great guy. Beama Lecky gets off to a winning start with the UFC with a second round submission over Duda Santana seems to be a big fan favourite there in Sweden

as well, massive of press kind of massive press surrounding her before and after the fight

I didn't reknow much about her I'm going to be completely honest Yeah she's she's off tough

attributes yeah she's you know good looking lady um um decent fighter so yeah

listen it's great to see that these stars one and oh you know you don't see it an awful lot you don't

but that's you know the UFC are obviously confident they've seen something in her and it's good to have these young stars

coming out of Europe and I think it would be great if we maybe had a few more here that the UFC were maybe looking at because I think we need some more Irish in the UFC. Absolutely. Devin Clark did not let history repeat itself when he was fed another European prospect. This time he got rid of Darko Stossage. A man I was saying to look out right. Yeah, we both agreed. And I think it's going to work in Stossage's favor. Like I mean, I clearly can see that this guy is very explosive in the first round, but his cardio kind of goes

missing the later of the fight goes on. And I think you'll learn a bit. lesson from Devin Clark look at what happened to rackage after you V Clark that's a big lift test at 205 you know decision loss it's not the end of the world but I'm sure Darko's going to learn a lot from that obviously a man of not so many words I didn't get to speak to him too

much but uh Devon Clark's tough man he's done really well since the contender series and coming into the UFC and he hasn't probably got the credit he's deserved as well another guy to probably watch out for in the next number months. Yole Alvarez

started the night off with a second round ground and pound win over Danilo, Bilardo a Spanish man he is looking for the UFC to go to Spain

I'll happily go to that event if that happens you can count me in San Miguel my son he'll be drowning I'll drown in Atenham out now the mouth today I'm dying for one

I haven't had one since last week so yeah listen also last weekend and I'm very ashamed to admit it's the first cage

Warriors card I have not watched live in a very long time but a big win from Tim Burnett in the main event there. Great fight with Sean Carter. Like, as we expected, two lads just going to absolute war for three rounds. Is Jay Z's name Sean Carter as well? What?

Is Jay Z's name Sean Carter? Yeah, I think so, yeah. But he doesn't have the sexy curls, my friend. He doesn't at all. No. Jesus, like Sean hasn't fought for two years, as we said, his last fight against Joe. He looked fucking great. Like, I mean, it was no walk in the park at all for Tim Barnett.

And it kind of says to me, like, Joe McCalligan, man, He was absolutely savage at that stage, you know, and, you know, continues to be. He's got back to winning ways there in Italy, like, Joe's looking to get booked as well. Yeah, and I think this should be a big indicator to Ian Dean, who we know was always on top of these things anyway. But he had a bit, he had a task. Would you like that? What? Barn Effie, but Joe's gone to 170.

Yeah, oh, it's him back down? 155, man, man, yeah. Yeah, I would have been into it, but I think Joe is at 170 now. Yeah, I think so. We've seen his cuts over the years, man. He's a big boy, and he cuts down a lot of way. Yeah, Donovan Desmey got a stunning second round knockout over Alexander Jacobson. Like, if you had to ask me before this fight, you know, it's going to end a knockout who's going to win.

I would have said Jacobson because he's got devastating power, but absolutely brilliant from Donovan. And, I mean, he's getting better every time we see him. And again, he wants that Paddy Pimlet fight as soon as Paddy's ready to fight again. And I'm rubbing me hands together for that one, to be honest with you. I think that would be fantastic. last Saturday didn't happen by the way we'll get on to that twice yeah we won't get on to that I'm just putting that in now

and we talked about Steve Amyville last week and he did it again man another really really good prospect in Aiden Steve and he absolutely grinded him out another really good performance from him and now when I'm looking at it like he's really announced himself as a featherweight contender now

and they kind of have Dean Truman going out against the somewhat unknown and night of champions and I'm thinking Jesus Amyable will would have been a good fight that night. Obviously only 28 days in the difference there or something, so

probably doesn't make a lot of sense. But I'm looking forward to C.A. and Stephen come back as well. I mean, he's going to learn an awful lot from that. One guy that I was really impressed when I continued to be really impressed with, Mick Stanton. Yeah, you're talking about him last week. Want to watch?

Mick Stanton. He's an older gentleman. He's been around for a while, but he's boxed for a long time, and then he went to M.MA. He obviously got fast-tracked into a middleweight total shot against Bill Steen, he was only competing as a welterweight up to that point

lost to Billstein for the middleweight championship and Bill Steen went separate ways and obviously now James Webb is the champion but Stanton for a guy who's known as a boxer he is unbelievable on the ground all of a sudden I mean he has such good gains in that section I think sometimes when you're coming in and you're a boxer like that

and you're so confident with your muscle memory you're striking you can focus 100% and it often happens like that and it is for an older dog and older gentleman like myself you know I was in the war I was in the trenches and everywhere. It is, it is impressive.

But I think that's probably the area where you see these guys. They're so confident. They've done it for so long with their hands that they're so confident. His wrestling is incredible. And he called out James Webb afterwards. And look, I'm all four people calling out James Webb because they need more contenders at 185. As we know, James Webb is going to be fighting on Night of Champions as well.

He was in the crowd wearing a very nice suit, I must add. Corey McKenna, another win. That's two on the trot now. Corey, very good. Lovely rear-naked choke over Julia Chenello. Julia Chenello... 12-year-olds, beating up a fifth, 25-year-old. Julia Chenello regained parody to a record for two and two,

and Corey has improved the four-on-one. Now, I'll take a quick... I'll just read out the results of the undercard. Nathan Fletcher defeated Rico Biggs with a first-round arm triangle, Stephen Hooper, submitted Craig Andrews with a second-round triangle choke. George Tanassa oh sorry this was amateurs

but George Nass be William Dimas by third round TKO to claim the 145 amateur title so congratulations to him so yeah that was all the action they have obviously this this card didn't pack a lot of punch

because there's so much going on at 106 I hope to be there for that so very very excited to see that card but yeah that was pretty much it for the weekend and now it's a man that we have been waiting to hear from once again, even though he's on the show only when this fight was announced, but he is fighting this weekend. I'm sure you'll get threatened again.

Oh my, well, it might happen, you know, he throws around the threats quite liberally, does our Piotr Yan, but what a great guy to speak to. It's a huge fight. Both him and Jojo have hugely pivotal fights this weekend. Thank you so much to our man, Piotr Yan, for getting on the phone with us. And when you listen to this interview, you'll know you have to get on Twitter immediately and get this man on the UFC game. I don't know who we have to tweet. You can tweet me and tell me, but we will start a campaign to get Piotr Yan. They can add fighters in now to the games.

Well, then they've got to do it. They've got to do it. Don't be sleeping on Piotr Yan. Great to hear from the man himself, full of one-liners as usual. We'll see us in about 15. Back by popular demand, it is Mr. Piotr-Yotr Yan, the Siberian gangster who takes on Jimmy Rivera in a crucial a very, very crucial

bantam weight fight on the main card of UFC 238 in Chicago this weekend. Piotr, how are you, my friend? And thank you so much for joining us again. Hello, my friend. Hello. Thank you. Look, he can already speak English,

Soiat, do you even have to be here anymore? No, I'll just sit next to you. My English, no bit. I think it's brilliant, Piotr. So thank you so much for joining us. But I got to ask you, before we get going here, it's a few and far between the times where you fight in the United States. How do you like it?

This is your second time. Do you enjoy fighting in the United States? The second time, when you're doing in the United States? Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not. It's a lot to be to fight. In fact, I'd like to fight. For me, I'm worth the fight, but yeah, I do enjoy to fight in America.

Has he noticed... I like Las Vegas more than Chicago. Oh, throwing daggers at Chicago here. Oh, my God. But has he noticed that more people are noticing him since the wins over Dodson and Dredge? Does he notice that more U.S. fans are coming up to him and recognizing him? You've noticed to the difference in

In relation to you After the Dotson That more Americans Farnats of you know

And how They're They're They're They're They're They're Or they're

Yeah Maybe, maybe There's There's There's There's There's

Maybe Yes, maybe Yes There are more Fence To You see

For attention Yes, I mean You've made some big statements. I mean, when he was on the show last, he talked about Rivera, he talked about

how he feels he can go in here and overwhelm him. But I have heard absolutely nothing from Jimmy Rivera. Is he surprised that Jimmy hasn't said much at all in the lead up to this fight? In the past interview, you did a great. I'm going to, you'll be able to give him to River. But, but at him, he, now, he's not yet, no, he doesn't give him. He's not yet, he says, Was he was he was in his own? He wasn't. I'm not sure. He's not really, he knows.

He understands, that he was still, he'll be able to. Honestly, I don't care. He's talking or keeping silent, you know. But probably he's you know what's coming his way and he knows that's why he's keeping silent.

Has he seen Jimmy around the hotel or anything? Has he met him since he's been in Chicago? Did he see him? No, I didn't see him. Is he hiding in his hotel room, does he think? Do you think? That's he probably.

You know, it's amazing. When we look at the lions for this fight in the bookmakers, they have Jimmy as a three-to-one, underdog that makes Peter a very heavy favorite is he surprised that he's he's going in against a guy who's so established in the US as such a heavy favorite by prognos of marketers you're playing out of the fact that you're a very small thing is you're really you're not doing you see I'm doing this I give you see I do

this very much I'm not even they're not They understand that, you know, it's real, that I'm a favorite, I also understand. In other, it's, there can't be, what can't do these, one-ebrozny-easnich. Or, what, I know, what there? So, the probably the bookmakers know what I know exactly, you know, they know that I'm a fair, it's clear in my mind that I'm a, that I'm a favorite in this matchup, you know. What can give me to do with his predictable style? predictable style, you know, is bar and barred for me.

What he's showing in the octagon. So, of course, everything can happen in the fight. It's a fight. But I don't know. I don't see this. Any danger in this fight. So he believes the bookmakers have this right? So, bookmakers

Right, right? Well, I'm sure, I'm They don't Not even To work Not even To work

Yeah, Bookmakers No And, you know, My friends cannot make money Because of them Because, like,

coffee saying On me, Such a low coffee says, you know, My friends want to bed And make money And they don't give To make money

Yes, yes, they need to give better odds and future, of course. And I got to ask him, right? The last time

he was on the show, we put out a graphic of what he said and, you know, just about the division, how he felt he could beat Linnekerese, he'd like to beat up

Corey Sandhagen. And Raphael Asun Seau wrote underneath it that Peter should be, Piotr should be more respectful and he should stop talking shit. Does that make Piotr want to fight Asen Seau?

Like, I feel like if Peter gets, true Jimmy, Asun Sayo would be a great match-up for the title. Does he, does that annoy him when he sees someone in his division talking about him like this? The last time they've got, they've got to say this. And this post, and this post pro-comitial Raffer Asaouzao, if you remember, he said, that, you know, you've got to learn to love your own, like, say, like, say, give me, talk, trotkut. And you kind of it It's

It's just It's really Would you could be You could be You'd You'd You'd

You'd You'd No They'd They know I don't know I don't I don't

I don't know Pess Datsch I'muddin If it's Belystin I don't know What's his

crying about And why he's If he wants We can beat his S2 He doesn't You You can

but they'll he better he better sit and hide daddy in the house yeah I mean the way we're seeing this is you know the UFC

have given Peter a main card slot because they can see him fighting for that title in the future and how far does he feel he is from that title does he feel like it could be the next one

how do you think you you're down the title maybe maybe it's the one Yeah, brother, I don't know, I want to be next one for the title. You know, it seems like a lot of people feel his placing on the card

is speaking about how the UFC really like him because Pedro and Aljo, who are higher ranked, they are underneath him, they're on the preliminary card. How does he feel? What does that tell him? Does that tell him that the UFC see him as a future title contender? who is Serling, who are now

in ratings, who are in undercardy, on the regreary, what do you it says, you know, that you've got

you're going to you than you will give us and it's a chance. I don't, I don't that it's

maybe just in a situation. But if be more more concrete, I'm more in ratings in the

Of course, I'm I'm in the main cardiom. Because what? Stirling I don't know, it's a realign. Roger Fedrell also, they don't fall into,

and I remember. I can't, tell what you're a lot of things. What do you say? There's, there's, there's,

it's a significance in placement on the card, but But to be honest, yes, you know, like what Sterling, he's not even, he never been in an exciting fight. And I didn't even like, he's fought in the UFC for such a long time. And I just saw his last fight, you know, I didn't even know the man existed in the division, you know, until his last fight. Wow. So, yeah, obviously, that's why I'm in the main character.

Look, is there any part of him that thinks that the UFC might match the two winners? of those fights to determine the number one contender. Does he think that would make sense or does he feel once he beats Jimmy, it should be a title shot immediately? Do you think you have to have to make the two parts, that's your boy, in the war with Selim Munoz, or you think that after a dri-evere, you should be able to be in the title?

I don't know, honestly, how they're there are, but I, I, for a year, I'm going to go for a year I'm going to go. I think they're almost for their performance, just over the U.S.C. Boeufs

I don't know what UFC will decide. You know, it's my fifth fight inside one year. And, you know, these guys, you know, it takes a few years to get, have him

same amount of fights as me. So he thinks that maybe sure the total shot is probably the way he'd want to go about it. Is he trying to get to the total as quickly as possible? Is that his goal?

You want to get to the title as much better than the title as much better? Well, in 19th, it would be good to be quite would be quite to fight for the belt in 2019 just right before the new year. Wow, right, right.

So, I mean, he already feels as though he is at the championship level. Like, I mean, he would have no problem fighting Henry Sehudo or Marlon Roryas if it came up that way. He feels he can already go in there and take these guys on and win. You feel that you're already on the

level of champion, that you, no matter who to be Tseh and Marais, you can't any of them can't out of them. But, of course, but what's that they're like, I don't know, prevathleth. Marais also,

also, they're also, I don't know what, there's no, there's no, absolutely. Yes, of course. Like, I don't care in who, like, Tihud or Marais. I just, I don't see anything, you know,

me, lacking in something compared to them you know so nothing special about them of course I can want to fight the winner of their fights my my preparations they were just in improvisational style and no concrete any of anything anything no professional real, and you know all my previous fights and you see I didn't even

prepare that well I didn't have a structure training I didn't didn't have a head coach or like anything like that, you know. Honestly, like I was preparing like an amateur to this, my previous fights. Yeah, so imagine like if I'm going to fight for the title, I'm going to make a significance change to my fight camp, and it's going to make a difference too. Has there been a significant change ahead of this fight, Sayat? Has he changed a lot ahead of this fight?

Well, you think that you, like, a position. like that was like that was there? There were any kind of any of the last lager in the war? Yeah,

nothing was I practically not trained in the last lagger in the last there was there was

not there was always like always he was in him not anything not usual he's

an unusual not over he's bork, he's bork, he's about all aspects

we worked You know, I didn't do anything special in this fight camp. You know, it was just an ordinary fight camp for me because Jimmy doesn't bring anything special to the table. You know, I don't have to really tail my camp to face him because, you know, he's just a short stock, like a wrestler with like ordinary boxing skills.

So I don't need to do anything extra for this camp. Does he believe that everybody will be talking about it? All the fans, all the media will be talking about him as the next contender because his performance against Jimmy will be that impressive, that spectacular? You know, like there will be no debate as to who is the next challenger. Everybody will be saying Peter Yan straight away after what he does to Jimmy. Do you? Do you think, after that you did with Jimmy,

all ballersers will, without a question, that you should, you should be the next year to fight for the title? But I don't know, I'm not so I'm sure, but it will be very much

but I think they will be sure they'll who will be able to let them just know

that on me can't I'm not I'm not I've not I've been in this

time and I've on their conditions you know I can't say like that

because it will be like too arrogant but you know you see can count on me they want me to be next

and you know I never let them down so I'll do what I have to do well well I would love to see either of those fights and um amazing to speak to you as always you're not only one of my favorite fighters to watch but you're one of my

favorite fighters to talk to so thank you you so much for speaking with us again. And thank you, Soiat. You always organized these things so well. I really appreciate you. No problem, brother. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. I'm telling you, I think, I think you're just keeping Soyad around now to keep him happy. I think you could do these interviews all by yourself in English. Next year, Chris. So much. I'm going to say, bro. He said he wants you to be in the game, to he said he wants you to lobby

for the next year's again, he should be in that. Is he not in the game already? No, not yet. That's a disgrace. Tell him I said that's a disgrace. Resure this question, brother. You know, he said, you have to solve this problem. Okay, you leave it with me

and I'll make sure he's in the game in two weeks. I'll make sure it happens, okay? Brat, if you're not going to do, I'll kill him. You have two weeks if it's not going to happen. Oh shit. I don't want him coming out on my knees. So I will definitely get working on that straight away, you can tell him. Okay, I'll have you, pretty much.

Thank you, thank you. Thank you so much. I can't wait to see the fight guys. You're gentlemen. Thank you so much and best of look. Now let's take a look forward to the week ahead. You've got you. been waiting for this now, patiently waiting, but it is finally happening. It's UFC 238 in Chicago. I'm going to be on the phone to you if I can't get a stream and you're going to have to actually, I tell you what you're going to have to, sorry, if I can't watch it on my phone. Sorry. You're going to have to stream it to me on, like, legally, on WhatsApp or something. All of it. And show to me. Yeah. That sounds pretty legal.

Yeah, sure it is. And of course you will. And look, you're very excited about it. And you have every right to be very excited about it. It's enormous. It's. It's. a 135 pound title Henry Sehudo v. Marlon Morayas it has been vacated by Disgraced Champion T.J. Dilleshaw. And of course in the Komenade event, we have Flyweight Championship bout

with Valentina Shepchenko and Jessica I. There's another guy here on the card. I think you've heard of him. Up and Comergan named Tony Ferguson. He's taking on Donald Seroni. Why is it three rounds? Don't even let me get into it. I went Bernie last week on Twitter. You might have seen that. And then

we've got Jimmy Rivera by Piotr, Yan. Unbelievable. Toy Tuvae Vlaigoy Ivano Ivanov, even off. Now, would that not be a good place

to put Jojo, Calderwood and Caitlin Chukagin? Yeah, I think, though, what they're doing here is... Hoping that heavyweights get off to a banging start on that, man. Yeah, and I think they want people to tune in to UFC fight pass

and maybe they're down a few subscribers. I don't know. I heard a few people... I heard a few people moaning about that. Okay. So... We'll keep it moving here. Tatiana Suarez, many believe that she will be the next person that fights for the strawweight title against champion Jessica Andraja.

And of course, we have Nina Ansoroff, who is the partner of... Don't write her off. Amanda Nunes. And I'm absolutely not writing her off. She's been an amazing form lately. Then onto our, again, onto the 135 tournament we've got. I call it a tournament anyway. Pedro Munoz v. Al Jemaine Sterling.

That's very low on the card as well. I feel like Aljo, Pedro, Piotr, Piotr, And Jimmy are all fighting for really prevalent places in that one, 25 pound division. Yeah, but it's, man, the card is so stacked. It's hard to really know where to put the fights in this card, I think. Yeah, no, you're right. We'll keep going.

Carolina Calvulkeich v. Alexa Grasso. We've got Ricardo Lammes v. Calvin Cater. That's a really good fight. A really good fight. Zunan Jan v. Angela Hill. The Beast. Bevan Lewis v. Darren Stewart, UK favorite, of course. Eddie Vineland v. Grigori Popoff

and there it is, kicking off the card. One of the most pivotal fights on the whole damn thing. Caitlin Chukagin v. Joanne Calderwood. Okay, let's take this from the top. Bevan Lewis and Darns here, it's going to be fight of the night. Let's just take this from the top now, okay? Let's just try and have a bit of order here for God's sake. Shut up.

Who do you think has this? Moroes v. Sehudo. I feel like a lot of people are sounding with Sehudo, given the win over Dilleshaw, but I feel as well that Marlon Moray is... Yeah, we talked about it. Should be deserving of all the respect he should get ahead of this fight

because he's a dangerous, dangerous man. Absolute killer on the feet, man. And I think he has the necessary tools here to deal with Henry Sehedo. He's fast. Sehudo. He always said that. He's fast.

He's good on the ground. And his hands are just absolute bombs, man. He can hurt you severely. Let's just take a look at this guy's last four fights. John Dodson, split decision win. Al Jermaine Sterling, flying knee. win. I was to remember. Jimmy Rivera head kick to punches knockout in round

one. Rafael Asun Sao, guillotine choke in round one. They're all round one finishes. Sterling, Rivera, and Ascentau. These are the top dogs in that division. Give the man some goddamn respect. That's what I mean, and I don't think he has got the respect. And I think Henry Sehudo here could be in for a rude awakening. And I think maybe, and I know he just

comes across a little bit cocky at times and disrespectful Henry. Let's just have a look at his last four wins. Wilson House. Second round win via punches. Sergio Pettis, decision win. Demetrius Johnson, split decision win. T.J. Dillishaw. Round one win.

Yeah. These boys are coming in hot, man. Holy shit. Hot. And the thing about Henry, you have to give him a lot of respect for, and I think it is his hands, the improvement we've seen on his hands. Just a mixture of both, I feel like he's mixing it together. He's a martial artist.

Yeah. Like myself. But I just think that standout area of that just raw devastating power and areas in which he can hurt you in the stand-up does lie with Marlon Marais. And I think that could be a decisive factor in this fight on Saturday night. I think it's going to be an absolutely smashing fight. I can't wait for that fight.

But I am going to go to Marais. And I think Maris is going to finish him. Maris is a killer man. We both looked at this guy when he was in. We've known the series of fight. We've known the property that's coming in. He didn't get the start he needed. fight as well, by the way.

Yeah, and he got the decision against him. I thought he won the fight. But yeah, he's turned that around. He's gone on this run, and I think we've a new champion on Saturday night. Wow. I'll go with Sehudo just to keep it interesting. But we do have a new champion, but everyone sort of feels as though Henry's the champion going in. Because he's gone up to, you like, digital.

We have not been able to claim Valentina Shepchenko is one of her own yet. Krikistan is a very dodgy location geographically first. So, I mean... It's a dodgy location. I mean, she's more European than Jessica. I'll give her that much. She is, I'll tell you what, she is an absolute superstar back at home in Craig Exstan. Yeah, it's great to see that, isn't it? She's really cool. President Stripe. She was welcomed at the airport.

Thousands and thousands and thousands of people came out to see her. I love seeing that and mixed martial arts. And that's where the UFC, I think, let themselves down again to a certain extent. You need to send video crews there. You need to get all that stuff. Exactly. You set it better. Show the common man. I'll do it for them. Yeah. Sign me up. Forever. But, um, fuck you. I really don't. I really don't see Jessica posing much of a threat here to Valentina.

I'm going to be honest. I don't. I think it will be a decent fight. I do fancy Valentina. Don't get me wrong. But you think Jessica's going to give a lot more than people are anticipating. Yeah, and I think she's proved in the last number of fights. I'll just try and find out what fight it was. Where she was, you know, we saw a different aspect. It could have been the Chichagan fight where we saw different aspects. It looked like she was actually trying out different things. Yeah, that was Chukagan, yeah.

The Chichigan fight. I was really impressed. Edged it. I thought she won it. I did think she won it Yeah, I think she won it, but she edged it Yeah, she's a really good boxer She's quick in and out And her guards improved a lot

Yeah, but still In terms of striking, it's not going to be enough I think there's too much variety Valentina stand-up Compared to what Jessica I has in her boxing And I think She's gonna keep going all night though I think we're gonna look for probably a five-rounder here

I think both could be five-rounders No I don't see this a hate on my eyes I can't see that going past two rounds. I can definitely see this one going five. And I think it could be one of those fights where it could be, you know, Jessica, I will surprise a lot of people. But, you know, the interesting thing about this fight is Jessica is his left strong style after getting that title shot. She's now down at the P.I. in Las Vegas, relocated to Las Vegas.

She's working with Extreme Couture. It's a bit of a risky one for her to make that change going into a world title fight. But I presume we will see that on Saturday night whether it was a good. decision. We will see that in Saturday night where it's a good decision or not. I'm not too sure about that, but she seems very happy. She's in a good place and I'm just looking forward to this fighting. It's a really,

really good fight and we're going to have that. I think we're going to see fireworks in this one. Is Donald Soroni just another notch on Tony Ferguson's belt here? In terms of what does he get from away here? It's disgraceful. The way Tony Ferguson's been treated by the UFC in the last three, four years you know, we've... I don't think you can

blind them in this particular case given the situation. Not this particular case. Yes. But, you know, in past, we've seen Dana White when Tony had the strap, the interim strap, saying it doesn't matter what he says. He, who cares with it? How do you treat a champion like that and speak about your champion? That don't impress me much. It's disgraceful.

And I'm glad to see Tony is out in his own now. You know, with a new management team, he seems a new lease of life. I just hope for Tony's sake that all these mental issues are resolved and that he hasn't jumped back in too quickly. I think he could be an erratic guy like that. Like, he is erratic. He is a reddish. And, you know, that is the question for me.

Honestly, that's the way I'm feeling. Like, has he given himself the writing out of the breeding space with this situation, such crazy situations at home, you know, or else that reports would suggest it was a crazy situation. And Donald Seroni, let's be honest, man. Against Ali Aguinti, look unreal. I never expected that. I never expect that disresurgence.

I didn't at all either. It keeps doing it, but, like, I never expect it this time. Yeah, I think, you know, it's a lot to do. what's going on in people's lives. And I think in this particular fight in this particular case, two guys who have, you know, they've had things gone on their life that have been life changing,

life altering. He's had his child. He seems way more relaxed. He's not as much of an idiot. He's grown from that situation as on which, man. You've interviewed Donald before at events and Donald sometimes comes across as just a bit of a douchebag. Let's be honest about it. He hasn't been nice to me in the past. He hasn't been nice to me in the past

either, but he seems as though he's got over that step and being just generally a little bit nicer to people. And I think in terms of Tony Ferguson, you know, a guy who's, you know, battle back through a lot of setbacks in his career, had that terrible knee injury, who saw the scars for he pulled it out in Las Vegas and showed us.

It was awful, it's terrific on both sides. For a guy to recover so quickly, and he keeps himself, I think, a better shape than anyone in the UFC. And I don't think that's, you know, even stretching it, the guy is constantly working, he's constantly doing something. His mindset, obviously,

he's had problems with that, but he's a guy who's bounced back so many times in his career. So, you know, I wrote it off Tony Ferguson literally coming into the last fight. I told you taking the fight too soon. Boy, did he prove me wrong against Anthony Pettis. And I think he's going to do the same again this weekend. And I just hope, you know, mentally he's okay. And I do believe he is.

But what a win for a Soroni to get in this situation. I mean, if he does this, with, unfortunately for Tony Ferguson, he'll be straight in there, you know? Of course. It's very interesting to see the way the next six to seven months is going to pan out that I wait division. I'm disgusted

that it's not five rounds. Oh, man. If you were ever going to, if you were ever going to make a

five round fight, these both these guys grow as the fight goes on. It is crazy. It feels like a waste nearly. I have a feeling

this is going three rounds and there's going to be fucking people. Oh, why the fuck didn't you make a five? I said it two weeks

ago on Twitter. I said it to, I said it on the A side that time with Sean Australia like it's terrible these fights. If there's ever a fight to make five rounds,

there it is. It's a title picture fight. these guys probably wanted five rounds they wouldn't have said no to five rounds but this stupid mindset or whatever the UFC you want to call it of not making fights five rounds

outside the common main events if it's not a title fight is absolutely stupid but listen who do you like in this fight I have to go with Tony Ferguson I have to go look I think Tony Ferguson on his day definitely beats Donald Seroni on his day but it's all about who shows up on the night

as we know of course I think it would be a real killer for Tony to have that momentum taken by Donald at this stage because I know someone has marked with Donald Soroni, someone who has a big name in the US like that, he's going to be pushed into that title picture. Yeah, I immediately. I agree. I agree. I think Tony's going to get the job done. I think it's decision. No, I think I think Tony could get a late finish in the third rounds. Just as like his... I just think the forward pressure again, I mean, we've talked about with Soroni. He's obviously adjusted a lot better to it over the last number of fights. But I think, you know,

you look at the Tony off his back as well, so dangerous. so good. You could say the same for Saran. For Cowboy, yeah. But it is. It's a fascinating. Imagine the scrambles here. That's what I'm really excited about.

Like, for grappling people at this. Like, I think, I think when we think about strolling, we think about a strike and an awful lot. But his, like, go back to watch them Henderson fights. His guard is unbelievable, man. He can catch submissions out of nowhere and asking Tony. So the scrambles are just going to be insane.

I can see them hanging out of each other's limbs, out of each other's necks. It's going to be fantastic. I think this fight's going to go everywhere. It'll be four to year. But, oh, easily. It's the best fight of the summer in my eyes. It should be five rounds. I am going with Ferguson.

I'm right, listen, just because of the record he's on, the way he's been disrespected, the way people have written him off, even though he's won. You'd like to see that justice. I think it would be brilliant and amazing to see Tony Ferguson win this

and prove the world. The UFC bras wrong to a certain extent. Finally, I can talk about a European. Piotr Yan, Jimmy Rivera. My God. Say it like you said.

me a few minutes ago. Piotr, yeah. Can you do it? Piotrian. Yeah, I think that was better than mine anyway. But yeah, I feel like

this man has a lot to gain here. Like, look what's happening. Henry Sehudo v. Marilyn Moroy's is at the top of this card. Also, on the prelims, we have Pedro Munoz and Al Jermaine Sterling.

But what I will say is both Al Jermaine and Pedro of higher ranking spaces than both of these guys. There's a reason why people are putting Peter Ian the main card, Piotr Yan on the main card, is because he's an absolute

savage. Like these two guys whether Jimmy Rivera wants, like Jimmy Rivera is a great way of lulling people into a false insecurity with his pace and then exploding. Peter Yan's going to be on him as soon as that bell rings. Like we've seen him in every single one of us for you. He's like a dog with a bone as soon as you ring that bell. I think this is

an area where the UFC they know this guy is coming. They know he's coming hard. Is this coming out party? 110. 15 million percent. I don't see Jimmy Rivera win this. I think that loss Jimmy sustained

back at the first loss of his career back against Marlon Marais. What a performance of Marlon Marais the first round when he absolutely floored him. But do you know what?

I know what you're going to say and obviously with the head kick and the punches there was very emphatic. But what I found when was a bigger tell was his fight against Algeman because it just felt like he couldn't pull the trigger.

It felt like he couldn't get going. That's what I was about to say. You know, we often say if a loss puts a guy on a different, maybe this has been a different one. Maybe Jimmy has been, it's more mentally affected him than it has other guys who've lost the fight and then kicked on. Maybe Jimmy's found it harder to readjust,

maybe the confidence isn't back. That's what it looked like as I said, as you were saying there against Al Jermaine Sterling. And I think the way Peter Jan's going, man, Jesus, I think for Peter Jan, this is a good spot in the card on the pay-per-view. And to go out and do that where there's so much bantamweight interest on the card, UFC know what they're doing here. They're placed them well.

They're looking at this guy potentially by the end of the year getting a world title shop. The Siberian gangster. Toy Tuwivi, Blagoe Ivanov. This is the type of fight could be really good if it's like a one, two-round fight. It could be horrific if it's a three-round fight.

Yes, moving on. Tatiana Suarez, Nina Anseroff. I mean, are you fall in love with Tatiana in terms of our title trajectory to the way other people are? Because everyone I talked in this industry believes she is basically going straight for the title.

I don't see why you can't. You have to say that. Incredible. She's been absolutely incredible what we've seen her so far. Nina Ansoroff, on the other hand, in terms of the match-up of this fight, a lot of people have not expected

this four-fight win streak after that. Justine Kish loss. Justine Kish, obviously. She's reinvented herself completely. 100%. It's been phenomenal story if she can actually go out. Imagine if she beats Tatiana Suarez.

What are people going to say on Sunday morning? She gets a title. shot. The winner of this fight is probably going to get a title shot. Tadiana Sperres very marketable, really good fighters, backed up everything she's done so far in that

division. So, you know, we look at the Carla Sperreza fight, a former champion. She devastatedly put Carlis away. She does that. To Nina Ansorov and the run, Nina Arnsives on, she's getting a title shot and I do expect her title. Either or. I feel like if Nina wins, you put her into a title shot because that's a whole

sellable point here. Yeah, 100%. her relationship with Amanda. It's something that they haven't put a light on enough. Like, I mean, my friend Look at the card, it's a story of that, man. My friends Tina and Neve are a lesbian couple I was telling them about these. They were like, how come the community

doesn't know about these people? The UFC again, and this has been a major issue. Man, since we've covered the sport, of them putting light in certain fighters, they rely on three or four guys, when they could be doing so much more with what they have. I'm badly telling a story to these people, and they're blown away with this couple.

Like, you have to get, you have to get it out there. Like find a way. And to another extent, we say that we, you know, we have problems with the sport being accepted in this country

more so than probably any other country nearly in Europe to a certain extent. Stories like this bring people in. They bring the mainstream. Bring the casuals in, yeah. Exactly.

This is what we need. And I totally agree with you when you say that, that you look at this card. There's so many stories in this card that aren't untold that people don't know about certain fighters. It annoys me.

Are you annoyed? Would you be annoyed now, yes. Would you be annoyed is my question if you're Pedro Moono's and Al Jemeyne and you're in the undercard and you're looking over Peter Yan and you're looking at Jimmy Rivera and you're going hang on a second that's. Yeah. How would you not be?

But you have to understand here and I'm happy that it's that it is this way because you know Jan is a great selling point for him and you're being guy. But yeah, look at that fight man. Look at that fight. How good is that fight? Munoz has come out of nowhere. He's like a freight train now.

Unbelievable that guy. Same same goes for Aljo. Like I mean, there was times after the Maroya's knockout I was wondering will we ever see Aljo

get back to that standing in the division and he's been absolutely exemplary since Aljo had a touch of the Jimmy Rivera

I would have said a couple of years ago after the Aston South fight but then you could see yeah we got over that as soon as he fought Jimmy Rivera

he did he was all over man he was really really he was brilliant in that point so listen man it's just if you look

at the bantamate division and what's coming into the division as well from outside of the UFC but just look at this Pedro

Honour us. Brett Johns, decision and Brett Jones. Cody. Yeah, Brian Carraway and then Cody. Like, I mean, Jesus Christ, that's a very impressive runner. Unbelievable, yeah. It is really good and I think we look at the Garibrand fight, obviously that was the one where it's going to

elevate you up. It's similar for Aljo obviously, Brett Johns, Cody Salmon. It was another guy, like Tom Doogammer, remember you got the win over Tom Doogne? This guy, this guy is someone to watch. But what do you do? That knee bar, remember that knee bar? Oh, stop, stop, stop, stop. That kneebar gave me the shit. That was the same as the beat, got the same

technique that night taking it from the back unbelievable. But what, like, that's an, like, they're so top heavy now in Bantamantam. It's great to see. Yeah. But, you know, for Munoz here, he gets a win. He's just beating Cody Garbrandt and Aljo Sterling. Yeah.

Who's saying he's not deserving a tight shot, but you think putting. Come on, Europe. But you think putting Peter Yan up there. It's probably Pizzi going to come down to statements. Who makes the biggest statements? But what I was saying was, like, what about, like, look at it like a tournament, the winner of Munoz v. Aljo

faces the winner of Rivera versus. obviously it doesn't work if it's Rivera. But I mean if Piotr-Yan comes away, the winner of Munoz and Aljo makes perfect sense. No, I think I agree, but I think with the placement on the card of Piotr

Jan, I think they're going to go, this guy, you know, he doesn't talk English, he's a translator, he's a Siberian gangster, good selling points. Just give him what he wants. Just give him what he wants. Exactly, then make that. And as well, I think that opens up more down the line as well. If he does do it, you have other options.

and it sort of it makes people sweat and we're only talking about six guys here and that's the brilliant thing about it that there's so much more talent in that bantamite division as well amazing amazing card for the bantamites

onto more European action carolina Kovalkavich looks to turn around a two-fights skid when she fights Alexa Grasso can I ask you one more thing yes what is it with the bantamates at the moment and I don't think this has been brought up

an awful lot we've seen so much more finishes in the bantamite division over the last few years in terms of power from 35ers I'll tell you I'll tell you

go on went over to America and I did a seminar shit was that it yeah again again Wales and now the UFC

bantamite division unbelievable I'm sorry man no but like honestly we look at the you know the days of when we'd

Henning Barrow and we and we Riah Faber there was a lot of stale fights and now it's just it's just come up a notch this guy's getting in there

you know cleaving mature's heads off there's been a lot of finishes I think the right the thing about combat sports is there's always

new ways to finish, especially when you have an art like jihitsu, such a creative art form. And that's the way we're seeing things as well. Like, like the kneebar, we're just talking about there with Aljo. Him and Zabit hit the most unique knee bars, the same unique knee bars on the same night. Like, I mean, there's just so many finishing options. But even in terms of power, man, the athleticism is going through the roof. The PI has to, you have to give a lot of credit there. And look, I feel like Bantamway, I feel like, it's a new lightweight, right? Yeah. Well, a lot of people talk about lightweight's still lightweight. And then people would say, well, they're right after that. But I think

135 is right there. I agree with you. It's amazing. Let's get on to Carolina. She's on a two-fight skid. She lost that decision to Waterson last time. That was our return bout after suffering that brutal K.O. At the hands of the champ, Jessica Andraj.

Alexa Grasso is a fantastic submission specialist. It's a great style match-up. But, you know, if you're Carolina, like, you need to get a win here, don't you? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think both ladies need to get a win. Alexis Grasso on two-fights skid as well? She's on, she's lost two of her last three. I think with Grasso, she's probably

underwhelmed coming into UFC. I remember watching her Invict all the way through. She came in she beat Herrijo Clark, then lost to Herrick. Herrick had a fantastic performance against her. Yeah, that was when we started realizing the herrig's a completely different fighter. She is, she's so good in the ground and she's good all over the place. And then, you know, Random Marcus, not impressive, win, then lost obviously Tatiana. It's been overwhelming. I think both

ladies need a win here. Caroline, obviously, you got. And both have been underwhelming. Both have been underwhelming. Both haven't looked great in their last number of fights, yeah. Like Carolina man, it's hard to believe. It is hard to believe how much the level is dropped. Well, I tell you what was hard to believe, just how brilliant of a striker she is and just to get put away so quickly, but yeah, drag. Yeah, exactly.

Oh, what was it? A minute and a half? Yeah, something like that, I don't really know. It was crazy and then obviously Michelle Warrison, you know, I thought Michelle won that fight as well. It was, it was probably more comfortable than she would have liked that fight against against Michelle. But yeah, it's a big, big fight for either. And, you know, maybe

with Carolina, the confidence is gone a little bit. That's what I feel. She's a lady that sometimes you wonder if that part of her game is missing. Yeah, absolutely. I feel like Calvin Cater

is a lot more to gain from this fight with Ricardo Lamast and Lamas does. Even though, you know, everybody kind of knows what Cater's about. Now we saw his return to the winning column against Chris Fishgold. It's a fantastic fight. Really, really hellish fight

the two of them boys put on that night. And that, you know, the fight before that against and Apah Moikano and Brooklyn was out That killed a considerable streak That guy was on you know what I mean Like it's

Yeah He is a very very good fighter And I feel like you know I'm gonna side with Calvin Cater I agree I think he's in the assurgency And Ricardo is on the downfall In March me

Yeah Ricardo's You know Big win against Alkins But you know He's being there done not before You know where is Where's the read to go I can't seem to get the title shut

Any time soon and he's getting old. Yes, yes he is. Jan against Angela Hill here. Jan obviously has a good bit of momentum. She's no Wiley Zhang. I'll give her that much. She is very good.

Angela Hill is also very good. Angela's improved. She's ever improving. And I feel like with Angela, everybody who trains with her, everybody that's around her is saying like she is enormous potential. We haven't really seen the full capabilities

of her in there. But this is going to be. a tough night out for her, without a doubt. I mean, the Chinese athletes are just looking unbelievable at the moment. Amazing. I mean, honestly, like, really, really good. Bevan Lewis and Darren Stewart, UK's own Darren Stewart.

Friday night. You reckon, yeah? Darren Stewart's in a fight, man. Who knows? The dentist, man. It could be. You better make sure you've got your feelings check before he gets in there because he'd be doing it for you. Listen, yeah, he's, you know, he's obviously coming off that last against Edmund Shabazian, but two wins before that, bounce back after those, you know,

a couple of just unbelievable fights to watch. He's always good. He's always good. When he won that spicy fight and he explained, he was so honest about how he had to go back and get a mental coach in and everything like that. I really like him. I think he's a really likable person.

He was actually on the Cage Warriors broadcast there now. I think they get him in when Dan is with UFC obligations. He does a great job, man. He's a really personal guy. And really cool for him to deal with the week before a big fight as well. You know what I mean? Savage, yeah. Don't know much about Bevan Lewis.

I'm not going to bullshit you guys. but um has he fought in the u s before bevan um yeah i think he has yeah he's uh oh he's lost to your royal hall in his debut is he a contender series he is indeed he is indeed he won against alton cunningham on the daners white shoes i know contender series and then met uh a swift fist from yoroa hall to uh welcome himself into the u sranks so um yes eddie weinland and gregory popoff as you was said in the past, Gregori is flying the European flag that night but yeah, Eddie Weinland, not an easy way out.

It's crazy, man, it's crazy that, like, we're having Eddie Weirin's come back in. You know, has a shuddy, I've called it a day? I mean, he's losing by decision. It's not like he's getting viciously, K-O. And we're going, oh, here, what are you doing? I love watching Eddie fight.

Eddie was great back in the day, man. He's like Artim the way he throws digs, man. Just all-power. Fireman as well. Looping the way. through the air like a lunatic so that'll be good. Now let's talk about a fight that should be way further up the card.

It's a pivotal flyaway fight. Caitlin Chukagin, who you know a awful lot about Noel and Joanne Collarwood, who we both know an awful lot about. Joanne, for me, is in the best form of our career. Easily. I think people in the US don't understand how big that win

was against Ariane Lipski. I mean, people thought Ariam was going to walk into the UFC and destroy the place. Whopper. You know, like, I can't stress this enough. and Joanne talked about it earlier in her interview. She was saying she actually got hung up on that social media shit about Ariam because it was so strong. Imagine all the Polish people.

Imagine all the Brazilians talking about this girl is going to come in and take over the division. Joanne absolutely outclass to her that night. Brilliant. Best performance we've seen by Joanne and the UFC and interesting you said that because I think that's an area of, you know, Joanne where we've talked about this. She's become a lot more confident outside of the octagon and be a lot more chatier.

Like imagine someone, one of these girls are hoiler really Joanne Caller. Hollywood over the years in our movie toy fights. It'd be terrifying. Because there was a lot, maybe, you know, when Joanne came into UFC, there was too much expectations put on her. Yes.

So everyone thought she was going to be champion. She was so young. Yeah. It's about evolving, about getting your mindset, right. She was, you know, going to a number of different gyms. From trying to find her feet.

And then to the US now where she's very settled. It's very overwhelming. It's taking time to settle. She's at extreme Kutour now. She's in Las Vegas. She's found her feet. We've seen that performance.

She's going to take unbelievable confidence. from that. If she was even doubting herself, man, it's even more beneficial for her mindset and what she's going to feel on Saturday night against Caitlin Chichagan. But Chukagin is no walk in the park. No walk in the part, man. And she's hard to hit. She stays on the outside. Really good, a lot of footwork.

Swift, quick boxing. Really good fighter. Mark Henry's done a great job. It's a beautiful style matchup, really. In terms of like a toy striker against this kind of outside boxer, I think it's really impressive. It is. A really, really nice matchmaking. And Chukagin, you know, as you said, just a

out came up short against Jessica. That was a close fight man. It was and you look at her fights before that she's put on her own ever since losing to Liz Carmouch, Irene Aldana, Maria Romero Borrella and then obviously Alexis Davis before Jessica I. It's impressive. It is impressive

to do that and to do, as we said against Jessica I to hang in there look really good, some really good boxing in that fight. I think Mark's going to look at here and he's going to try and obviously get in and out very quickly on Jojo

and obviously try to keep a range from Jojo's kicks and things like that because Jojo's very, very underrated on the ground as well. I'm not so sure Caitlin's is good on the deck. Obviously, working with Henzo and those guys. But Joanne has improved everywhere. And I just think the mindset here, Joanne, the silent type that she is

and she's sort of flourished, I think Joanne's going to do something here. I think she's going to shock a lot of people and how good of a performance she's going to put on here. It would be great for her. Like, I mean, someone that's been on that role. roller coaster and to finally get that title shot and let's be honest she's already a legend of this

scene she is she deserves a lot more credit than she gets but she's not probably the most outspoken person in the world later she she's growing into it yeah we're grown into it i think that's it's a sign of her confidence and when you as you said you can see how happy she is you know everything she does that's it's it's actually reflected in her performances now so i mean i don't but listen no this this fights potential fight the night as well you know it's it's a crack and match up on paper and i'm a fan of Caitlin watching her fight as well and Jojo. But, you know, when I'm looking forward to my, I think this is going to be a good one.

Who have you got, Jojo? Yeah, I've got Jojo. Yeah, I think so as well. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so, I mean, that's all the fights really talked about now. We've done our lot. We went through a fight by fight. So there's a few things I need to talk to you about, Noel.

I don't really want to get into this, but it's... Come on. Come on, Noel. So where did you watch the match on Saturday night when the Great Liverpool won their sixth. I was in a work report, it. Wow. Which pretty, was probably most the punishing, painful things about everything. I was on my own as well.

Only one in the office. I had UFC on one TV and had it was over at that stage in the UFC. Don't want to hear about the USC. Yeah, yeah, it was punishing. In fairness, I think the better team lost. It was the first half was absolutely appalling game of football. It was the worst final I probably ever

watched the first half. you know, penalty after 24 seconds, couldn't string two passes together both teams at first half. And then, you know, Liverpool got that a rigy goal at the end, but the Spurs were easily the better team in the second half.

So big congratulations to Liverpool. No, not at all. Huge congratulations to all our Liverpool fans. Travis D for football. I see Patti Pim that had to go out of me as well. That was hilarious. Fuck it, I didn't give a shit. I think he's trying to have some crack

with an oil, but you just can't. I can't really do crack when it comes to football. well, Liverpool and Liverpool involved. I'm delighted for Paddy. Listen, you know, a good family. A good team, but still, the only sort of saving grace is that they haven't won a Premier League ever. So that is what they want.

Is the Champions League not bigger than the Premier League, though? It depends on what you want to win, Peter. They say your domestic is your bread and butter. I want to win the biggest one. So what would I win? If you were like, Peter. It depends on what your priorities are. No, the biggest one.

The biggest one. The World Cup. Club World Cup. Man United won twice. World champions twice. Once more than England, world champions twice. It's a big deal though,

winning six of them, isn't it? Of course, yeah. It's huge. Do you want to... Right, so I think that's enough on Liverpool. So, big congratulations from me and Noel. No, not all the people in Liverpool. Not from Peter.

Big congratulations, congratulations Liverpool. United, Solidate. Let's talk about also. There's been a bit of a transfer market being activated in the MMA media section these days, isn't there? I mean...

Yeah, what's that about? What a team? Atlantic have put together. Yeah, but my former colleagues. It's behind a paywall though, is the only issue. It's two euro or something, man. Is it? Yeah.

Yeah. No, listen, obviously. I've already subscribed. An amazing team of guys they've assembled there. Fantastic bunch. It's great to see Josh Gross sort of back in there full time with MMA as well. The guys being ostracized by the UFC. Ben, folks, Fernando Prattis.

Sean, obviously, Chuck. Yeah, amazing. Huge team. It's a great team. Amazing team. And for a long time. I'm writing. That's what I'm really tapping into. These are the guys that I look up to.

You know what I mean? So to see them all on one team, be able to read their stuff is great. Definitely. Even some, you know, casual sort of said to me that, you know, they were very interested to see Sean and Chuck, you know, obviously with that organization and the other guys they brought in there because they do. They follow Chuck's work. I think, you know, Chuck is probably widely regarded as one of the best writers, if not the, by a lot of people in the world. I'd say, you know, him and Sean are Sean's brought in some amazing features over the years. And we've also, we've brought in Damon Martin.

Your friend from the even the talking brawls days, you've had Damon Martin on since day one. Yeah, I know Damon, a long time. Damon's a great guy, you know, gets through some amount of work, an absolute workhorse, being around a long time, being with the MMA weekly, one of the old school guys, right back in the day.

Yeah, everyone. Yeah, literally when UFC was... And he's already churning out stuff, man. I mean, for his days, he's just... He's a machine. Machine. Machine. A machine.

A Cleveland machine. Also. G. Cleveland. Cincinnati. Oh my God. And also. Ohio, I meant to say.

Also, we had a Jordan Breen go to bloody elbow. And Simon Head got a contract with him. Congratulations. Simon. I was grinding and grafting as well. So delighted for Simon. It's great to see this for the industry. I feel like, I mean, it's great to see job creation.

It'd be great to see if Ireland did it. Yeah, I know. But it is great for all of MMA. I feel like to see jobs being created in the space and competition in the space. I think it's very. good and um look i look forward to working uh with damon for a long time and um as i said so far he looks like he's doing a brilliant brilliant job so congratulations to him i'm uh honored to be on his team but um do you know well there was a way just on a completely separate point there was army

putting the streets of blanche it's getting that bad there's four people shot there like four people shot the north side man it's mental it's not really the north side though but you keep telling me it is well they devoid i don't know if you sell so it is notice but they devoid on the liffi there Do you know where the liffy is? Yeah, of the middle of town there. You've never been on the other side. I keep the rats on the other side, yeah. Sewer rats.

Noil, one time me, Noel and Graeme were out and we just threw it out there that we maybe we should go to a pub on the north side. I've never seen a canary come out of Noel as big and me like. This is lies. Oh, man. This is lies. I don't remember this. I don't care.

I told you get out of Graham. You went mental. You went to be a great. Thanks for that. But listen, he'll do it. But, um. What else? You're off to Porto, my friend. I am, yeah.

Congratulations to your friend. I believe he's getting married. Yeah, Paul, yeah. Paul's getting married in the summer, I think like two months. So it's even less, I think it's a quick turnaround. At least you get the safe for the weather. Yeah, it's going to be great, isn't it? Jesus, man, I tell you, I'm going over here with a, you know,

it's going to be, oh, it's... Stick to the Euro-Sail on you, man. It is. At least the points are only 150 in Portugal. But, yeah, it's going to be an interesting one. Off to Prima Vera Festival. That's what's on Porto. It's going to stay out there for the week because it actually works out cheaper in terms of staying, you know, accommodation, stuff.

Hadn't had a bit of a holiday. Jeez, God knows how long. Since Prague. Yeah, it wasn't, that was a bit of a weird one though, yeah. Have you been geolocating your Tinder to Portugal ahead of this? A little bit. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, well, I'm glad to hear it.

Please elaborate. Yeah, no, nothing substantial yet, but we've been working on a few things. We all believe in you. I've been working on a few things. I love that. It's going to be interesting because the Feckon Nations League finals on there on Sunday as well in the soccer. So it could be England and Portugal or England and Switzerland or Holland and Portugal. Holland and Portugal tend to put on fantastic footballing occasions with lots of red cards.

Yeah. So, yeah, I'm interested, intrigued to see what sort of clientele might be in Porto at the weekend. It could be, hopefully it all kicks off. So do we need the draft in Signor El Starco Blanco for next week's episode for you to edit? Um, yeah, we'll see. We'll see how it goes. I don't want to be ruined your holiday, my friend. No, I don't mind.

He's still going to have to edit it, though, unfortunately. Noel will have to take his laptop away and somehow edit this at some point. Yeah. If you want to pay for another bag from... Just put it in nature's pocket. Yeah. Talking about your ears. All right, okay.

Yeah, you know what Ryan are like. But, nah, listen, it's just nice to get the fuck out of this climate for a few days into something warmer. Oh, my God, man. Just see new surroundings, man. Yeah. It's very frustrating in this country. It's a horrible country. Never come here, never visit Ireland.

Yeah, I felt like it was very negative on Ireland this week in Stockholm when people asked me about it. But now, granted, Army wear just put on the streets of my hometown, so it wasn't really full of... But, like, there's only so much you can see in Dublin. But let's be honest, man, but if you got in the west, they're down south. They are the scenic places you want to see in this country. You spend a day in Dublin, it'd be enough... You go to Hote? Yeah, beautiful area.

You go to Wiglow Mountains? You know, do the Jameson tour, the Guinness factory all that. But, Bart, you get two or three days in Dublin, pretty much. Oh, two is fine. And then you feck off down the country or something. Go to Galway, then, yeah. Come for a point with Niall. Yeah, more than the boys.

That's one of the tourist attractions. That I believe, number one, Guinness, Two. Niall to bring, Niall, Moines. You bring Niall for a Guinness, yeah. Yeah, he doesn't pay for anything. No. No. Jesus Christ, I wish you didn't pay for any booze.

I'd actually love to see how much money I've spent on Guinness over the years. it's it's maybe I should see someone so crazy so yes if you have any counsellors that can speak to Noel about his alcoholism we'd love to hear from them too I just enjoy it but thank you very much to our fantastic guest Joanne Calderwood

and Peter Jan Pyotr I can't get that into my head his name is Pietra Jan Pyotra Pyotra Jan I can't do this I'm Russian Pietra Jan

yeah well I'm going to work on that loads I'm going to start kind of doing that roly thing with my tongue and in the meantime you enjoyed fights. It's going to be epic. You're all going to be pissed off because Tony Ferguson and Donald Seroni's only three rounds. But other than that, I think you're going to be pretty happy with the weekend. We love you as loads. Give them a big kiss there, Noel. Good luck. What's the word in Portuguese? I'm looking for, chiao. Chau. Chau, abrigado. Ronaldo.

Cavalio. Caralio. Excuse me. Oh, van Mohe. There we go. I love you. I love all of you too. You beautiful, beautiful people. We'll talk to you soon.