MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 40 (w/ Rafael Lovato Jr., James Gallagher, Fabian Edwards)

Episode Date: June 18, 2019

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Rafael Lovato Jr. (13:00) previews his title fight at Bellator London, James Gallagher (47:10) explains why his rival fighters are putting him on a pedestal and Fabi...an Edwards (1:29:10) underlines why he feels he has been Bellator’s biggest European signing. Peter Carroll and Niall McGrath look at the latest European MMA news. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:55 but once again we are joined by Noel McGrath the Crown Prince of Porto he is back after Chris Fields fantastic guest spot last week
Starting point is 00:02:04 Noel is back to regain his throne I didn't like the abuse I was very insulted with TVU sovereign Portugal when I was editing this last Monday
Starting point is 00:02:11 Did he hit your confidence at a No did he knock it like while you're searching feverishly through Tinder no
Starting point is 00:02:17 good no I'd bring it bitches How did you feel like you've calmed down A lad who called himself that the housewise choice. Come on. Get out of here. He's handsome. Still. Are you eating while we're doing this? Yeah. Sorry. I'm reading out.
Starting point is 00:02:31 That is fantastic. That is professional. Sorry. I'm hungry. Yeah, so just stop whenever you're ready there, chewing in today. But yeah, so we had Chris on last week. A lot has happened since. A lot has happened, continued to happen in the world of MMA. We had Bellator 2-22 last weekend. Plenty of talking points. We have a big weekend ahead with Bellator London, UFC Greenville. weekend, if I'm not mistaken. And of course, we will be touching on
Starting point is 00:02:59 bare knuckle FC, Noel's favorite combat sports platform at the moment, of course. There should be plenty of rants in this week's episode, and we are going to begin those rants at the very end of the headlines, but let's get started on them now. It's finally happened, Noel.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Leon Edwards versus Raphael dosanos. We'll headline July 20 at San Antonio Card. How do you feel about it? I'm very happy it's happened. Yeah, I'm delighted for Leon. We've been talking about this for quite some time in terms of him getting a big name and a big fight, and that is certainly a bigger name, in my opinion, than Horgane Mazvedal, even though that shite, fuck, shite should have been done.
Starting point is 00:03:36 That show should have been done. Promotional purposes alone. But this one, this is a big, big challenge for Leon and probably the biggest, yes, it is the biggest of his career. And we will be hearing from Leon's brother, Fabian, who fights this weekend later on. He had some big things to say about that fight. Also, we have Poland's Oscar Pichota has been booked to fight Jiu-Jitsu legend Rodolfo Vieira in his UFC
Starting point is 00:03:59 debut. That's set for August. Pichota's coming off a loss to Mershardt and Rodolfo Vieira's perfect five and also far in his MMA career. I believe he was plying his trade with ACB the last time I saw him, or ACA, whatever they're called now. Fedor Milya Miliyanko signs a new
Starting point is 00:04:16 multi-fight deal with Bellator. What do you think of that one? Noel, that's a bit... Yon. I mean, coming off that lost debate, or I think a lot of people thought we might have seen the last of them. Yeah, man, it's just, you know, Bellator at the moment for me again last weekend, you're just seeing old guys that are sort of past it and you obviously saw Shell Son and Retire. That was my next headline. Chale's on and Retire is Noel. How'd you feel about that? Sorry, we're in headlines. Yeah, it's about time, no offense to Chale or anything, but this has been a slow progression for the last five years
Starting point is 00:04:45 possibly. And it's again, the same with Fador as you were talking about there. How many people are really invested in seeing Fader a fight? I'm not so sure. And this, tends to be the development strategy with Bellator, and I think they need to really sort of change something. It's interesting, Chale, to be fair, he's, I see him as an innovator as selling fights in the fight game.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I mean, this is a guy that maybe people didn't think had the most remarkable skill set, but marketing himself in a way that he was constantly in main events. He fought for two UFC titles. It was a matter of seconds away from winning one of them. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And I still remember that, and I vividly. Yeah, same. when Anderson locked up that triangle choke. You see 1 29 if I'm not in a second Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Was that the rematch? I think it was. I think it was a re- We'll double check that. We're not good at that stuff but numbers are not our strong point. Farewell, Chale. Thank you for all the laughs
Starting point is 00:05:36 and the LOLs and the headlines. A lot of people weren't happy with me calling him a legend of the sport when he retired. However, he is. He is, I agree with you in a certain Yeah, it's not like I'm not trying to say he's the greatest fighter of all time.
Starting point is 00:05:48 He was an innovator in terms of what he did in terms of marketing himself. Shamil Abderakamov will take on Curtis Blades on the UFC 242 card He rides a three-fight win streak into that and of course Blades is coming off that win against Justin Willis Another rushing on that 242 card interest down Cage Warriors 1-08 revealed with a heavy Welsh cast there This is the first one without Jack Shaw and quite a while of course And as Shaw predicted
Starting point is 00:06:13 Mason Jones is at the very front of that promotional Push and we did expect that he is a fantastic prospect that lightweight. I'm looking forward to seeing who they put in front of him. A bit of a weird one here. Mamad Khaledoff arrested for his supposed or alleged involvement in the importation of cars or something like that. Weird. Yeah, I've heard a lot of... Like, I've talked to a lot of Polish people
Starting point is 00:06:38 since this was announced, and they kind of said there was a similar thing with Matera a few years ago that turned out to be absolutely nothing. But the Polish police liked to kind of send an example that nobody is safe, if you know what I mean? They can get anyone. Not that nobody's safe, but nobody is above the law, if you know what I mean. Yeah. So we can get you. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And finally, the Bellator card has been announced today with some very strange news. A split main card. So three fights on Channel 5, two fights on Sky Sports. I think this is a bad idea. There's no casual crossover there. Like, I mean, people are just going to be watching on Sky Sports. sports aren't going to advertise. And now, for the rest of the card, go on over to Channel 5, which, of course, you highlighted on many occasions that Irish people can't even get, right?
Starting point is 00:07:28 Like, I mean, it's not... It's largely, largely unavailable. If you're a Virgin Media customer in this country, you don't have access to Channel 5. So... I am. Yeah, you don't have access to Channel 5. So you could be watching this in Sky Sports, and it's just like, all right, let's go to a movie, let's watch half the movie and not watch the second half. This is effectively what it's like. Absolutely ridiculous again from Bellator. if they really want to get this, you know, market nailed down, they have to come up with a better TV strategy.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And it's very frustrating again for the fans in this side of the pond that they're going to be able to, you know, a large portion, we're only going to be able to consume the first part of this card, which I believe is going to be a headline by Paul Daly and James Gallerher is going to be the co-main event on the Sky Sports portion. There's a lot of co-main and main events going on here. It's ridiculous and I can't believe that Beltor have put themselves in this position. I'll tell you one thing I'm a bit.
Starting point is 00:08:19 weird about as well, right? So everybody knows that Fabian is this big deal. He is a huge deal. Look, when I interviewed him for this episode, we hadn't got the information yet. We assumed he was going to be on the main card, so I apologize for that in advance. But to have a UK talent like that and to not put him on a TV broadcast, to not put Mike Shipman and Kosloven-Steis on this broadcast, just to sell that fight in the future, just at least one of them and show some clips of the other fight that happened, you know, how are people meant to get invested on this guy? Like, you're not going to get any casual people tuning in on the Bellator app. No one's going to be like, well, let's whip out the Bellator app here and randomly see what
Starting point is 00:09:00 fight is on. Yeah, but I think, I think we're at the point even now, whether, you know, obviously we will watch it, but there comes a point when there's just, you know, are you going to just watch the UFC or you're going to watch Bellator, you know, what are you going to watch, you're going to watch Barrennuckle. There's a lot of decisions be made on Saturday night, and And this further affects this decision by them switching channels. People aren't going to be ours. They're going to stick to one and watch one and not have to go a big battle and watch the second portion of a card. So I think this could possibly put a lot of people off and they'll just go and consume a different organization or a different fight platform, which money will.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Sometimes I feel like I'm too harsh with Bellator, but then when I tweeted that out today, seeing the reaction of it. Like not one person was like, oh, yay, I love this. You know, not one person was like, this is great. and I even talked to some managers involved and some of the fighters today that missed out on places on these televised situations and they're not happy about it like they deserve, these guys deserve
Starting point is 00:09:58 a bigger platform like and from what I hear Melvin Manoff commands a big payday there so I guess he automatically has to show his value on the cards but Sky Sports must be frustrated by this as well Sky must I can't imagine it's going to be it's going to do the many favors when it comes to renegotiate like are we going to do have main cards here
Starting point is 00:10:16 like especially when you consider, I'd say the big, the big event that's happening on Sky Sports so far is the Irish one. I'd say that was huge views. So I mean, this just isn't, this just isn't going to be the same. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:10:28 It's, you know, it's a poor strategy. And again, how long as it's been going on? And, you know, I know we've seen the US events, fair play for nailing then, that slot in Sky Sports, but these are the big ones, the European fans want to see. And I think we look back at Bellator Dublin. We saw the traction online was absolutely insane
Starting point is 00:10:44 for this week. And I expect the online attraction for this event to way surpass what the UFC are doing this Saturday night as well. And it's just going to be a bit of a letdown, I think, when the fans have to try and watch it on Saturday night. Yes, well, without further ado, let's go to our first interview of the day. It's Raphael Lavato. Oh, wait, hang on. I should actually talk about the fact that I was at the press conference last week, my bad. I was London. It was hectic. It was like about a 20-hour round trip all in all. A lot of video encoding and uploading and everything's, but looking enough, my MMI fighting gang had my back there and they got everything up beautifully shout to Jose and
Starting point is 00:11:20 Casey and Danny thank you very much but um it was pretty uneventful I guess it was a breath of fresh air um but uh I saw bits of it yeah I mean there was this is kind of boring isn't he well I think both guys just have a lot of respect for each other and the way press conferences have been trending like I mean I think we needed a step back like we can't be going out and like talking the same shit and pushing the like pushing the boundaries in terms of yeah I agree So, I mean, it was kind of a breath of fresh air in that sense. I was a bit disappointed to be to get an interview with the guys after or a scrum. They didn't do an interviewer-sm?
Starting point is 00:11:53 No, they did interviews with their partners. Yeah, yeah, I saw that. And Nick Pete got some good stuff out of Khabib, but whatever people I saw about him. Yeah, I actually turned it off when I heard that part. I'm not even lying. That was the only clip. He named the 2005 team. That was enough for me.
Starting point is 00:12:08 See you later, Habib. But, yeah, yeah, now it was good. It was just, you know. It's just a weird one having the press conference there in London at all. And it didn't really occur to me until I spoke to Abbey over there. And Abby was like, well, this is our America. You know, this is the EMEA market. And this would be the main office of that situation.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yeah, London would be their HQ, yeah. I saw a few people disappointed that they didn't ask about the pay-per-views. But, I mean, it's a BT sport move there. Like, I mean, there's no one from BT sport at these press conferences. And to be fair, Sean Sheehan got onto the UFC last week. And surprise, surprise, they have no answers. But it did come out during the... the broadcast over the weekend
Starting point is 00:12:46 or the Bellator broadcast I believe or no it couldn't have been that maybe it was 238 that it is going to be 1995 to buy that pay-per-view how many are they going to sell five five five obviously I was away last week when I heard this news and I was staying off Twitter
Starting point is 00:13:02 as much as I could last week just to get away from the madness but you know I was absolutely appalled when I thought I think it's an absolute joke we always have to pay for our subscriptions here for the channels and then a pay-per-view on top of it. Listen, they haven't done a good enough job
Starting point is 00:13:17 BT sports in the first place I think with their original programming. So I think first get that right, then once you start selling your original programming, if the sport and the demand is big enough, which obviously it is, but not for pay-per-view, then make a decision to do that. It's way too early for the UFC to be doing
Starting point is 00:13:35 pay-per-view fights on this side of the pond. Connor McGregor, maybe yes. I'm not sure about anyone else. Yeah, yeah. I agree with all. all your points, my friend, my beautiful, beautiful friend. Right, so yeah, now I can happily move along. Sorry, Rantover.
Starting point is 00:13:50 We'll be talking about Porto and all the beautiful Tinder delights at the last portion of the show, and we will be going into that in-depth, of course. But up for us now, it's Jafel Lavato Jr. A guy who my old Royal Grappling Academy friends would be a big fan of an absolute jiu-jitsu legend. He obviously takes on Gargard Musassi this weekend. It's a huge fight for him. he's 9 and 0 he's had a fantastic run so far he's putting it together with his hands as well as
Starting point is 00:14:18 showcasing that fantastic jih Tjitsu ability so really looking forward to this one obviously a huge step up great to speak to hafayel levato thank you so much to dan for setting this up for me and we will be back in 15 thank you and now i am joined by the headliner for bellator london it is mr hafayel lavato junior who takes on gagard massasi for the middleweight title hafail how are you and thank you so much for joining us. I'm doing great. Just made it to London yesterday. It feels great to be here. Thanks for having me on.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Do you kind of take a lot from your international experience in Jiu-Jitsu when you're traveling around like this? I mean, does this feel like any other competition for you because you've been around the world with your stellar career in BJJ? I mean, this is obviously a little bigger than that. Like, I mean, this has been a dream for quite some time. so, you know, there's a little bit of an extra inspiration and motivation feeling I have now, but definitely all the international competition, you know, I started traveling to Brazil
Starting point is 00:15:27 and competing there when I was just 16 years old. So I'm very, very much used to, you know, packing up and going somewhere else to perform and, you know, fill the adrenaline in another place and the different culture and everything. So it's nice to, it's actually a really cool feeling to do that now for MMA. So it's sort of the same thing, but even extra fun, extra inspiration, you know, like I mentioned. So it feels awesome. You know, when you took off on this journey with MMA, there's so many people that are so skeptical when people transition to MMA from Jiu-Jitsu. And you've obviously had a fantastic run.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I mean, do you feel like you've proved a lot of people wrong with the situation you're in now, without even winning the title, just what you've done so far, because I certainly do? Well, you know, I don't know. I don't really think about what, you know, the people out. I don't know, like, as far as proving them wrong, I never put that in my mind as something that motivates me. all I ever feel is just a lot of positivity from the jih Tijuana community and people that support me and are behind me. And then the ones that really know me know that I'm a martial artist. I'm not just a jiu jitsu guy.
Starting point is 00:16:50 My whole life has been martial arts. I was training martial arts since I was, you know, able to walk well before I ever ever got involved in jitsu. You know, so I grew up into this. you know, under my father. And so that's why I started MMA was just to fulfill like my martial arts journey. Jiu-Jitsu is definitely my number one passion in what I dedicated my life to. But it's just one element of my life. My life as a whole is that of a martial artist, not just jih Tijuana.
Starting point is 00:17:29 So those people that know me, you know, from training since I was a little kid, and really know my story, they saw this coming, more or less. Of course, it still feels a little surreal to be here, but it's sort of always been the dream. You know, it was just kind of doing it at the right moment and doing it in a way where I would never look back in jih Tjitsu and say, oh, I wish I would have, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:01 stayed a little longer or done a little more. I'm completely satisfied with what I've done in jiu-tizu and maybe started M.A. a little later than what most would have, but it all felt right. It felt like the right time. And since, you know, coming on this journey, it's almost like I got to feel young again, you know, and be hungry and climb my way up all over again, the same way I did in jiu-tutsu, and it's been an incredible ride so far. It actually makes a lot of sense what you're saying when you talk about being a lifelong martial artist because your striking is absolutely unbelievable. You certainly don't look like a beginner when it comes to striking, but has that been something you've been able to really hone in on since transitioning over because I've been blown away what you've been able to do in the stand-up sections of the fights?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously, you know, I'm more comfortable on the ground and that's where I'm world-class. But every fight, every camp, I feel so much improvement and get so much more comfortable in what I'm able to do on the feed, especially when I had a couple fights where, you know, I wasn't able to just get a quick take-down or something like that. I thought a good wrestler,
Starting point is 00:19:21 and I had to stay on the feet a little longer, so that experience helped me. But I, you know, the first martial arts I did, was striking arts. You know, I used to box amateur whenever I was a kid and, you know, just growing up up under my father, like, he was always a believer in being a complete martial artist. You know, he came from a G. Kundo background. And so, you know, Gekendo was sort of like the first mixed martial art. You studied all arts and you developed your own system of combat within each range. And so whenever I was younger, I, I, you know, loved to throw punches and kicks. It was,
Starting point is 00:20:05 it felt good. And I've got to just tap back into that feeling, you know, and putting it all together and, you know, really discovering who I am and how I like to move, you know, now, you know, taking all that experience and wrapping it into one. And I have a great team, you know, My striking coaches from Evalu Sontai. They're amazing. They're black belts from the shoebox lineage under Rafael Caudero. So they're, you know, they have the most, what I feel is like, like, sort of a powerful system of Muay Thai. And my jiu-jitsu, the hibero jiu-jitsu, I feel like is this powerful system of jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And I get to put it all together. And it's just been a lot of fun. you know, mixing at all and discovering new ways to move and, you know, do what I love. When you consider Gagard Massassi, a lot of people see Gaggart as one of the greatest middleweights in the world. A lot of people feel as though if he was still in the UFC, who will be right at the top of that division, possibly even being the champion, do you consider him a big step-up in competition? I know you've fought fantastic fighters up until this point, but is this a significant? step-up do you believe uh yeah for sure i mean he's definitely um i mean by far the best that i fought um
Starting point is 00:21:36 you know and and solidified himself as one of the best of all time in his his way class 100 percent i've been watching him for a long time i've been a fan of his for a long time um you know i feel like i've been climbing ever ever since the beginning you know every fight i fought has been a jump-up in competition and everybody's had a lot more experience than me and I've been the underdog and you know, and, you know, this is, this is it. I mean, I've been climbing the mountain and he's the mountain top and, you know, he's the peak and it's, for me, it's beautiful, it's perfect because I wouldn't want to just, you know, take one little step up to get to the top with the mountain. I want to, you know, have to look, look back and say, okay, there's no going back.
Starting point is 00:22:31 You know what I mean? Like, we're going all the way, all the way to the top, you know, I want to, I want to defeat a legend to win the belt. You know what I mean? That's the way it should be, you know, it should be the biggest test to get that belt. And so it's perfect, you know, and it's an honor to fight someone to have so much respect for. And, you know, carries himself as a martial artist the way he does. It's just been that much more inspiration for me and just giving me an incredible feeling. You know, and I'm very much looking forward to the challenge.
Starting point is 00:23:09 We spoke about the development of your striking earlier, and I don't think anybody doubts that you have the advantage of this fight hits the ground, but do you feel there is a significant goal from the striking or do you believe you'll be able to match him there? I know Gagard has some fantastic K-1 fights under his belt, but do you believe in this rule set you can match him on the feet
Starting point is 00:23:27 well I mean it's the MMA fight so you know if it was a pure kickboxing match I'd probably be a little more nervous than you know what I am now but you see it all the time like the even grapplers
Starting point is 00:23:44 you know great kickboxers who on paper have much better stand up than their opponents you know who might even be a grappler once the threat of the takedown is there, you know, things happen. You're wearing little gloves, you know, so it's not like I'm going out there with the mindset of, oh, I'm going to knock them out or anything like that. But, you know, the goal is different.
Starting point is 00:24:12 The goal is just to, you know, find the right opportunity, keep it close, you know, mix everything up as well as I possibly can, you know, just be the best version of myself. I don't go in there really comparing our striking skills necessarily. I'm comparing our mixed martial arts skills, you know, which once again, he's a great challenge, but I don't have to just wrap my head around, okay, I got to go in there and box with him or kickbox,
Starting point is 00:24:45 anything like that. So, you know, just like, you know, he has his jab and he has, you know, a great, great technical stand-up and everything, you know, I have at least the threat of putting him on the ground. He has to be worried about that and, you know, that can change things. Absolutely, absolutely. And this is a kind of a trend that's becoming more prominent, getting jiu-jit, like, you know, celebrating. Braille Jiu-Jitsu stars like yourself to MMA. We saw Rudolfo Vieira has signed for the UFC recently. We have Gary Tonin in one championship.
Starting point is 00:25:26 You know what I mean? Do you still feel like BJJ is one of the best bases, if not the best, for MMA? Because obviously, right back to the birth of the UFC, this is what we saw. Do you feel it's nearly like history repeating itself with guys like you? You know, I think anyone that... that's an elite level in any art can make the transition. You know, really you need to have, you know, at some point you gotta be complete.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I mean, there's no doubt about that. I'm always gonna be a believer in jiu-jitsu and an ambassador for jiu-jitsu in passing that on just because of what the art means to me on a deeper, like spiritual level. I think there's certain, things that you can gain through jiu-jitsu and spreading jiu-jitsu for everybody. You know, not everyone can go do Muay Thai and get hit in the face and, you know, do that for
Starting point is 00:26:32 10 years, you know what I mean? And just, like, not everyone can do that. Not everyone can go into a wrestling room and can survive a wrestling room and really grow. Jiu-Jitsu, you can have zero athletic experience. You can just be, you know, a shy, unathletic person with no friends, sort of a, you know, quiet person, whatever. And you can start jiu-jitsu and really grow and, you know, have this community and, you know, sort of toughen you up. And it just teaches you so much about life. And for me, it's the martial art that can be, you can give back to everybody.
Starting point is 00:27:15 in a major way, you know what I mean? Striking arts, that can be very difficult. And wrestling, wrestling is amazing for M.A. And definitely, like, you know, whenever I have a son one day, you know, I want him to wrestle, you know, because I want him to get that toughness. I want him to be able to do takedowns and grind. But, you know, not the average person can't just go into a wrestling room and survive. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:43 And do that long term. But I feel like Jiu-Jitsu, it's for everybody. And so, you know, I'm always going to preach Jiu-Jitsu as far as when it comes to actually competing in combat, you know. You know, I don't think, I think anyone that reaches a world-class level in any of art is going to be dangerous. You know, they're going to be dangerous when it gets into MMA. But definitely you have to have the compliment, you know. Like wrestlers that can box, those guys always do really well. Jiu Jiu Jitsu guys that have Muay
Starting point is 00:28:17 can do really well. You know, Jiu Jitsu guys that have great wrestling on top of it, okay, you know, anything. It's going to have to be at least a duo, you know, if not a trio at some point. But for me, I'm always going to say Jiu Jiu Jiu Jiu. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Right. Final question, Havail. You know, you have reached the top of the ladder in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, one of the greatest competitors of all time in that sport. How would this belt rank in comparison to the honors that you won in Jiu Jitsu? I mean, would this be even bigger for you,
Starting point is 00:28:51 having transitioned across from Jiu Jitsu, or how would it rank? Oh, it's really hard to put a, to put a, you know, a rank on it. You know, Jiu Jitsu, like I said, my first passion and my first dream was to become a Black Belt War champion, and it's hard to say that this is going to mean more to me personally, personally than that. You know, in the end, it's
Starting point is 00:29:18 another dream. You know, but I'm at a different stage of my life. And so obviously at this point, like winning a second or another Jiu-Jitsu world title would not be the same as this.
Starting point is 00:29:34 So now this is everything for me. And for me, like, looking at my whole life, the way this puts together my whole life, you know, that's something Shih Tzu can't do because that's just one element. This is everything. You know, I have, in my corner, I have every martial artist teacher that I've ever had in my life.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Is it going to be there in my corner? Wow. Wow. That's amazing. So it's like, you know, it's a more complete representation of my life's work. And obviously, career-wise, you know, it'll be the biggest night of my career. but personally the satisfaction, the emotion, the way I'm going to feel, you know, it's going to be the same. It's just I'm at a different stage, you know, and yeah, it's going to be the dream coming true.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Raphael, thank you so much. It's an absolute honor to speak to you and I cannot wait to see this main event. All the best, my friend. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. And what a pleasure it was to speak to Hafei Lep. Velavato Jr. I'm really looking forward to that fight this weekend. A big championship fight for Europe. It's something that we always, always welcome. So thank you very much to
Starting point is 00:30:48 him. Belator was the big card last weekend as well, my friend. Did you get to watch it? It was actually really quite good. I feel like I had good online traction as well in terms of online in the UK and Ireland. Like I saw a lot of people talking about it, probably the most since that Dublin card. Yeah, I didn't really consume what was going on on Twitter. I watched the card. I thought it was a decent card. A lot of empty seats seemed in the upper tiers of Madison Square Garden, which I noticed. I was quite interested to see that, see what kind of audience Bellator would pull in.
Starting point is 00:31:18 It was a decent card. It was, you know, again, I'm going to moan about, you know, with Chita and Sonnymed being matched. It feels like we've just sort of sick of this kind of matchup with Bellator. Yeah, you know, really good performance. It slowed it down, to be honest, you know? It did. And, yeah, it was obviously hard to see, she'll take those two knees,
Starting point is 00:31:36 obviously the first one and then the second one. Fair play, them. We're staying in there after the first one. The first one was vicious. It was very well-timed. But let's start off at the very top of the card. Roy MacDonald and naming Gracie. I don't know if you saw it because this was an awful lot online.
Starting point is 00:31:50 People, to me, Rory still seems a bit strange. Totally agree. I was going to say this year. People keep on saying, like, oh, it's all good now. And I'm like, no, it's not. It looks like there's no killer instinct anymore. He's just missing something for me. And I don't know the commentary, Marrow and I goes, oh, you know, he's back.
Starting point is 00:32:09 No. No, but even the way he's speaking. Yeah, a lot of Jesus. And look, like, you know, fair play to you if you love Jesus, but it just seems like his personality has become the evangelist rather than the fighter. The psychopath that we used to know in the UFC. And look, these fights are going to change him, man. Being in wars are going to change it and all that stuff. But what we're interested in is the fighting, right?
Starting point is 00:32:32 And I can't. Well, really, has he been the same since Robbie Loder? I don't think he has. Well, he looked fantastic again. against Lima when he first came into the Valator. It was really the last way against Fitch. Like to draw with Fitch, all due respect to Fitch,
Starting point is 00:32:46 but Rory MacDonald, you're expecting Roy McDonald to go through him. Definitely. There was passages in the name in Gracie fight where I thought, there it is, where he's landing big, grounded shots on him.
Starting point is 00:32:56 But at the same time, I don't know if he's the same dude anymore. Yeah, I think... I'd be happy to see him hang them up after... A few more fights. This Lima fight, if that's the way. He's saying it,
Starting point is 00:33:09 it's not going to be at the time that Coker says he wants it to be at, but I don't know. Like, I don't believe that he's fully vested anymore. Yeah, I totally agree with you. I think there's something missing in terms of performances that we used to see from Roy McDonald's in terms of maybe that real killer instinct, the will to inflict damage and pain upon an opponent. I thought he was very dominant in large portions of that fight. I think he was in trouble maybe twice.
Starting point is 00:33:33 There was a couple of heel hook attempts from Gracie. I thought he dealt with the ground stuff very well. I thought he looked really, really good in his takedowns. But yeah, it's just that X factor, isn't it? You just feel as though. Where's the exclamation mark? Yeah, exactly, 100%. And, you know, I think when a guy starts doing that,
Starting point is 00:33:49 and he's quite young, obviously, as well still, but he's been in those wars. And I think he's moils on the clock. We know it's about moils on the clock, and that ladsman points, as he's two. Agreed. And I wouldn't have anything wrong with Rory McDonnell, you know, finishing off this tournament
Starting point is 00:34:01 and then maybe calling it a day, definitely. This is where I'm at with this. I think Lehman is going to beat him in this rematch. Yeah, Liam is look brilliant, man. You know, I'm confident that he's going to get it done. Look at Leema's last performance. But can you remember how we felt about this fight the first time it was happening? Now, we weren't saying Leema is going to get crushed or anything,
Starting point is 00:34:17 but we're very confident that Roy would get it done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we were. And just based on, even though he's advancing through this bracket, I still, like, you know, and he's not been, have had horrendous results, just based on what he's saying and everything like that, it just doesn't feel like he's going to win this rematch, you know? Yeah, and I think if we look at what, what Lima's done, it's been quite the opposite.
Starting point is 00:34:45 It's been, you know, there's been that exclamation mark. MVP. The exclamation mark of exclamation marks. That was just an unbelievable finish. And just the manner and the cold, calm, calculated manner in which he did it, I think, you know, that will stand to him in this fight going in against Rory McDonnell. He'll have learned things from that fight against Rory. And I think Rory, as we've said, is on a little,
Starting point is 00:35:06 a bit of a maybe a slide. Yes, absolutely. And moving up, we talked about Jail and theota Machita. And thank you very much, Chale, for what you've contributed to the sport. But the one thing I'll say for Leoto on this, it doesn't really tell me anything about where he is. No, again. This is what you're saying. It's hard to know what they're fighting for here. It's, they're just placed because they're names. Yeah. They're old names. Maybe the Oda's looking at the winner of Machita and Jaffaella Lovato this weekend, you know? But let's be honest, like, I think, you know... But it didn't make him...
Starting point is 00:35:40 If Gay-Arons was going to win, it doesn't do anything. He's there. It's like Bellator are signing these guys and their statues. And you don't know where they're going to go. Left or right, they're going to go forward. They're going to go back. What are they there for? They're there because they're old names of the sport.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And to me, it's very frustrating. You know, build something. Get a model going here. Say like Fabian Edwards on a televised event. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Push, like, be a young promotion. Give young promotion. You know, give these young guys a shot on the big.
Starting point is 00:36:06 stage instead of us constantly seeing these fights that, you know, I think a large portion of fans don't even want to see anymore. Dylan Dennis got a submission win. First round arm bar against Max Humphrey revealed after the fact that he suffered an LCL injury and as I believe John Kavana said on Ariel Hany's show today that it was in his last training session. He also called John John's a bitch. Yeah. And who else did he call out someone? Roy McDonald. Yeah. Look, he went in there. He got a lot of eyes on the event and he won. That's exactly what I expected.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Chris Fields was talking about last week. Absolutely expected this. Didn't think, you know, he was up to much against Max Humphrey. You know, his takedowns were a lot better. His stance looks a lot more developed in terms of striking, but no surprises, we'll say that. Not at all. I just, you know, the only thing I would like to see is, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:58 if you're going to come out in a microphone and make comments like this, do it after a victory against a higher level opponent. I don't have any problem with the level of opponents really It's just I think it's because Dylan's so in flammatory I've no problem with the level opponent But I'm saying, you know Treat it for what it is
Starting point is 00:37:15 Yes, treat it for what it is Right, I understand I understand Patrick Mix calls out James Gallagher You look good dude Wow, it was a shock win man straight on his back 20 seconds The human backpack Patrick Mix must be Irish
Starting point is 00:37:27 Ricky Bandais Didn't even get going He didn't get gone It was one minute It was done back and it was done. Yeah, but I mean, there was a lot of intricate hand fighting going on there
Starting point is 00:37:37 on the back. It has to be said, incredibly hard to finish from the back. Like that, especially when you're actually straddling the guy. You're not on the ground. You're a trade expert. You tell me.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah. I won't be finishing anyone. Don't worry about that. Ricky Bandais would flatten me. But Patrick, Mick, certainly, what an introduction to that division, really. Really coming out part of their.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Juan Arculeta, a guy, I'm absolutely huge on. Unreal. With that devastating, how good is this guy? Is this guy the best? you know is he the best in the division well he bet bandeyes
Starting point is 00:38:07 in the last fight I guess I guess Patrick mixes there went over him kind of takes the show off that's lately but um Aguiletta's got to be right up there right I mean he had T.J. Dillishaw with him there as well and who's he he's the
Starting point is 00:38:20 disgraced former Santaway champion but let's get onto the fun stuff Kioji Haraguchi defeats Darian Caldwell maybe not the most eventful fight but it kind of He's fun to watch that. He's just so fast, man.
Starting point is 00:38:35 And you're watching Darien just kind of lying him. And he becomes the enemy. Darian becomes the enemy to the audience because he's slowing down the fight so much. And you're like, let the little, because he's so much smaller. You're like, let him up. Come on, come on. And I felt like as the fight went on, more and more people were like, Darian's ruining this fight. He's ruining this fight.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And, man, I was happy to see Keoggi get the win because he had far more activity than Darian. Even though Darian's wrestling is absolutely stellar. He just can't seem to do anything. with it when he gets on, unless he finds a nice sub, he's not doing anything with it. Even Al Jermaine Sterling was on saying, look, this guy's wrestling caliber is unbelievable, but he doesn't develop the situations enough. He doesn't transition. He doesn't try enough.
Starting point is 00:39:17 He doesn't try to finish enough from those positions. And yeah, Kioji Haraguchi is now the Belator and Risen champion. I think that's cool. I love that. I love the Risen and Bellator crossover. That's what I like. You know, do this instead of, as we've talked about earlier on, Shale and, Yeah, but this is one thing I wanted to bring you up there.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Josh Gross wrote about this and Mark Ramondi wrote about this ahead of the fight. I'm sure more people did. They kind of said like this situation where you're putting a risen champion against a Belator champion, that is an attempt, at least an attempt to find who is the best fighter on all the promotions. And, you know, it's kind of shitty that you know the UFC will never entertain this. I just can't see them going, oh, let's do a Henry. Hoodo v Kiyoji Haraguchi because it'll be a one-fight deal for Haraguchi. He might come in and take the belt and then he's gone, you know?
Starting point is 00:40:09 No, yeah, listen, we'll just draw a line on the UFC will never do it. I don't think there's any point in even arguing that. We know the way the UFC have routed these things. They're very much on their own. They don't mention other promotions on the broadcast. Bellator, you know, openly do it. But does this make this a more valuable commodity in terms of the diehard fan when they are putting Risen v. Bellator, like, as we talked about,
Starting point is 00:40:31 we had Yuri Pro Haska on the show. Imagine putting Yuri against Bader. I know a lot of people with heaven to favour. It does. Definitely puts more eyes, man. I think that's what Bell is more need because they're, you know, they're messing up certain TV deals as we've talked about everyone here. So do something else outside of the box rather than, you know, have the old guys, the dinosaurs on the card, very high up the card.
Starting point is 00:40:49 This is way more appealing. You're getting, you know, an international clash of styles. You're getting Haraguchi against Colwell. We wouldn't have seen that if there wasn't disilliance here. And it's a great thing, I think, to see. And it does definitely. add a little sort of an X factor to the promotion that they're willing to do things like this in their card. It brings an air of, what am I looking for?
Starting point is 00:41:11 What's the word I'm looking for? Expectations or what, sorry, surprise to the broadcast. And I think that is something Bellator could really sort of market and sell on. I think it would be a great idea if they did that with basically all of Ryzen, do a Bellator versus Ryzen, you know, once every couple of months or something like that and embrace the champions. Dare I say, Keoggi Haraguchi made a bigger impact in his one fight for Bellator than he did, even with his title fight in the UFC. It seems like a way bigger name now based on that week's... Yeah, well, it was a joke that he was ever released from the UFC in the first place.
Starting point is 00:41:43 It was embarrassing from the UFC to let such a talented, destructive little fisherman go because he's a phenomenal fighter to watch. I love watching Keoguchi fight. I just think the technique, the speed, and you put everything into one, and it's just a little, It's like a fireball of mixed martial arts right there and Kiyachi Haraguchi. And go back and watch his fight with Siri, man. It was a knock. Yeah, if you want to see him in an absolute knock.
Starting point is 00:42:10 He had the first 10 minutes absolutely dominant and then here comes the King of Fingles. Watch that. It was really good. But yeah, I agree with you, he has. And I think, you know, put some eyes on this kid now and I think the eyes are on him after having those two belts. It's great to see.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm not going to go through every fight in the main card because... Sorry, can I ask you one question? Yes. Do we know if he's a contract now? Is it a one fight deal? Is it two fight? There was a lot made of like the gentleman's handshake between Saki Barra.
Starting point is 00:42:36 That they're doing a series, no? Maybe, maybe. I don't know, maybe. I'm clear this. I'm in Europe, baby. As some of New Yorkers. But yeah, I'm not going to go through every fight on this undercard, but Taylor Turner stops header hardy. It was a bit of a shock result.
Starting point is 00:42:51 But it was Eurobash veteran of one show, Adam Barrex, who took the highlight. Sorry, Bar-Ich, sorry. Bar-Itch. I always fucked that up. Adam, Barich, flying knee after being wrestled, like, for about nine minutes of that fight lands, this devastating flying knee and Aaron Pico.
Starting point is 00:43:11 And it brings up the conversation that we often have about the treatment of prospects. We've always said, UFC seemed to rush guys. Bellator seem to be too easy. And then, of course, there's Pico, the exception to all the rules, who just wants to be thrown to the lions constantly.
Starting point is 00:43:25 He walks away from this, a forintry record now. This man was once hyped as the greatest prospect. in MMA. I think he could be, but I just don't think he's taking the fights that will allow him to showcase that. Surely it's time for a step back in competition. Adam Baruch is an undefeated prospect from Europe. I don't see that as a massive step down from his last opponent, Corales. Even though Corales is right up the top, it's not a fight where it's a showcase fight,
Starting point is 00:43:52 where we're going to see what this kid is good at. He's an amazing wrestler, obviously based on the Adam fight, but once again, a bad K. Let's take some time off and really rethink this. Aaron Pico strategy, as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, you have to, you have to, after, you know, these knockouts. And we talked a few moments ago about, you know, fights changing fighters' careers and the trajectory trajectory. Roy McDonald's, for one, for me, definitely, you know, that fight had a big impact. And we've seen other younger guys.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And so early on in Pico's career, you know. Yeah, like, it's nearly promotional malpractice. It is. And where does this rest? Does this lie with the fighters? Does this like the matchmaker? You know, where do we draw the line here? Right, this is the problem I have, right?
Starting point is 00:44:31 Fair enough, R&Po comes out after his last loss to Corrales and was saying, I don't want to step down. If you give me a step down, I'm going to really hurt someone. Why, like, why do you listen to him in that circumstance? Yeah, I agree. And then you're not in a rush to make Dylan Dennis v. Rory MacDonald. You know what I mean? Let him say what he has to say, but you've got to be the promoter at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah, and they've somewhat ruined. Not roans, that's probably the wrong word. But it's got a massive rebuild. Yeah, that's what I mean. They're going to have to start from scratch now again with R&P going. It was going so nicely, obviously, till, you know, the first loss and... You mean the debut loss?
Starting point is 00:45:04 And then he bends back, lovely, and then we saw that nasty knock out and again. You know, sometimes I think matchmakers have to hold her hands up. Bellator have done some very good things, but they've done some very bad things. They've, obviously with James Gallowher, I think the push has been very good, you know, real steady, nice, slow progress, young guys.
Starting point is 00:45:22 And that's what they need to build in Belleter. They need to build younger guys up, so we don't see the likes of Chelsa on it. and Leota Machita fighting in their 40s on a co-main event in a Madison Square Garden Card. People don't want to see that anymore. I guarantee you that. So that's what's frustrating there.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Listen, I do 100% agree with you. I think Aaron should take some time off now. He's obviously an amazing talent. Exactly. It's like Darren Hill. I'm glad we've seen nothing announced for Darren Till. I'm really happy. But I hate seeing this on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Oh, what a load of bullshit. He's not the prospect we thought. No, he is. They just haven't been able to match him where he can really. develop properly. You've said it right there. And he's an amazing talent. And, you know, it's devastating. The UFC
Starting point is 00:46:03 got it wrong with Darren Till. Yeah. Let's be honest. They've got it wrong a lot. A lot. Yeah, like Darren Till was never ready. Francis and Ganyu, Steve Amy Oachis. Yes, 100%. You know, we look at the Woodley fight. That could seriously damage Darren Till. And it has, on the short term, we've seen that it has damaged them. Purest.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Well, the one. Yeah, you know, Darren, a week before that fight was announced, I spoke with here in Dublin. He openly said he didn't feel as though he was ready for World's But if it's coming, it's coming. It's coming. You can't turn down a world title shot. But again, you know, who's making the matches?
Starting point is 00:46:33 Valerie Lareda beat the Hooters employee. Larkin Dash. It was, she's good. She's good, she has good control of distance. She lands, like, as you'd expect, from Taekwondo, lands good strikes. Larkin only really challenged her there in the last kind of few seconds of getting her to the ground. So we didn't really see her challenge in that regard.
Starting point is 00:46:53 But, yeah, a nice win nonetheless. And Mike Kimball, TV. Tom Egan's prospect, got a split decision win. That was all very good to see. Boston, Tom. Exactly. We were...
Starting point is 00:47:06 We were speaking about James Gallowher earlier, who was called out by Patrick Mix after that main event went over to Ricky Bandeas. Jimmy's show. Mr. James Galaher, the Jimmy Show. It's this weekend, of course, on Sky Sports, where he should be. That is where he should be.
Starting point is 00:47:22 There is absolutely... After that... Well, I think it says a lot, the fact that... You know, the... The pre-lim portion as we're calling it is on the bigger channel. Yeah, well, I mean, it's perfect for James. Scott were probably calling for it.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Well, you know, which side do we want? Give us Galaher. Yeah, easily. And they should have Fabian on there as well as far as I'm concerned. Definitely, definitely. But yeah, we spoke to James. It's a huge fight for him this weekend
Starting point is 00:47:44 against Jeremy Labiano. Adam Barrex had actually called one of the many people who has been calling James out. So we kind of talked about the amount of people calling him out. Very interesting he actually said here. And I know he's kind of said this a few times to me, but the way he speaks about that, like all these guys calling me out
Starting point is 00:48:00 and they're saying I'm shit and they're saying, why don't want to get this attention? They're making me get that attention. By talking about me constantly, they're putting me on the pedestal. They've created the pedestal. So just very interesting to speak to him.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Also got his thoughts on Aaron Pico and James definitely sympathized with a situation. Some great points made about that. Always a pleasure to speak to James Geller. And he even spoke to me on Father's Day, of course, which would have been a big day for Andy Galaher, of course, in Straband. So happy Father's Day to him.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Definitely. To all the Doddies out there. Absolutely. And, yeah, so we'll speak to James now and we'll be back in 15 minutes. All the best. And now we are joined by the most wanted man in Bellator. Bantamweight. Moving up to a catchweight this time around,
Starting point is 00:48:45 but it's Mr. James Galler. How are you, sir? I'm good, Vita. How are you? I'm very good. It's Father's Day today. You're popping down to Andy with an L. Bottler Shampers or something? Or what's the situation? Yeah, now on Tuesday, I meet them on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:48:59 They fly to London. I'm in Belfast for the weekend, doing a bit of training and stuff, and chilling up here, and then I fly out from Belfast on Tuesday to London. So I'm going to stay, and then my dad's coming with me on Tuesday. So we'll do something during the week. You'll get a nice win next weekend first. You can wait until then, yeah. Are there many of the Galaherr clan heading over?
Starting point is 00:49:23 I know you usually have a lot of people there. I mean, I think half of Straban was there at the last Dublin event. Yeah, yeah, 100% that Paul Cruz whipped up again. And, yeah, I'd say there'll probably be a few hundred from Stravan coming over. That's great. Yeah, so there'll be a lot of people coming out. A lot of people, big tickets and flights and so, so it's another Jimmy show. I mean, how do you feel about that, like, James?
Starting point is 00:49:47 Like, I mean, I'm looking at this main card, and obviously there's the big title fight at the top of it. There's Daly, and there you are right in the middle of that main card. how happy are you with that with that placement sorry how happy are you with your placement on the card obviously like people want these main cards lots of obviously sky sports I think this is huge for you like when I saw that this was going to be on sky sports and channel 5 straight away I was like this is massive or James Galaher because you know coming off the back of the the Dublin show I felt like your stock went
Starting point is 00:50:17 sky high this this makes sense to have you on this main card right 100% so it is it's a as I said it's my time to shine pizza I feel like this one's going to really really pit me up there into the mix and it's going to put a lot of people it's going to make a lot of people eat their words and question what they say about me
Starting point is 00:50:36 I feel and that's that's how I feel like it's just my time to shine I feel great everything's gone perfect and I'm ready to go I'm just like happy to be there, happy to compete and happy to get in there and have a scrap you know what I mean? I'm really
Starting point is 00:50:52 it's like I'm excited for I'm just what once did they all unfold do you know what I mean it's not I've never really felt I felt like this kind of come up to the Dublin fight as well but this one's even a bit more I'm just just happy to get it in there and compete and show this
Starting point is 00:51:10 the trend that I've been in this last the last few months and stuff and let it all unfold for me is there anything to be said about this catch weight like I mean are you still kind of making up your mind whether it's going to be bantamweight or featherweight or was this to accommodate your opponent what what was the thinking behind the catch weight no basically well i've been mick and bantamate me i make bantamate no problem
Starting point is 00:51:33 you know i mean it's that's i feel like that's going to be i'm going to be around this weight for for a while but i'm not going to not in a tidal eliminator shot i'm not fighting for the belt and not doing anything we all know i can make the weight so but so what's a why not just get two people around the same size to agree on a width, you know what I mean? And just, what's the point to cutting all that way? Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, it's absolutely stupid, you know what I mean? I'll make wait for a title fight or when it's a meaningful, no, like a title contender fight or something like that. But now I was, I was just speaking and I was like, can I just get a catchweight? It won for you? And I like, yeah, why not? So then your man got dragged in and got told it was a catch weight
Starting point is 00:52:18 and that's how it's that's how it unfold it simple as nothing there's nothing everyone thinks oh it's some complicated reasons no i just decided i would just try i would just ask and see see how it would go do you know what what's the point to me cut an extra five pound but i don't need to you know i mean i just fight some of my same size even though he's a one forty-fiver but it's the same kind of size you know i mean it's not it's not as big as people make
Starting point is 00:52:44 go same kind of size agree on a way to show up fight get fucking paid and put on a good performance. Do I mean, that's what it's a boy for me. It's not making weight and killing myself and all this. Do I mean, even though I do still got like a good bit, like a good bit, I'm big, I'm big for the weight. So I've got a big cut still ahead of me and stuff. But it's just a damn extra five pounds, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:06 It's just, that's just absolutely pointless for me. And also it's like a title fight or a title competitor fight. I think it should happen more often. Yeah, it seems like a good idea, to be honest. Like, it makes perfect sense what you're saying. Like, why should you go down and kind of, you know, have to keep on prove it? You've already proved you can make the weight. Like, what's the point in doing that if you're not getting paid for a title fight or something like that?
Starting point is 00:53:26 I think it makes sense. You know what I mean? So it's not even getting paid. I'm getting paid. I'm getting paid. I don't get out of me. You know what I mean? It's not about the money.
Starting point is 00:53:37 It's about the actual purpose of it. I just don't understand. I can't see the purpose of, like, cutting up two people, the exact same. size, walk around, though it's similar enough. Do I mean, it's not like a few pounds as a major, but I'm fighting people my own size, the ban to me. It's not, what I mean? It's like we're killing ourselves to make weight.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Like, just what's the point? We'll just make life's a bit easier for us and go out and put on a good fight. Yeah, yeah, and I've got to say, right, and I'm not going to ask you to reply to all these guys, but I've just been looking at the amount of callouts you're getting. Like, I mean, we already talk about Dom Wooding and Lentioni. You've also got Patrick Mix. I even had Adam Borick's last week on the show, even though he's up a feather way talking about fighting you.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And what I wanted to ask you about that is, like, so many people, like, where we're kind of saying, oh, this is the end of them when you lost? Is there any way that the loss made you an even bigger name? Because I feel like more people than ever are calling you out and are trying to align themselves with fights with you. Surely, if you were done, this wouldn't be happening.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Like, is there any way that you actually, by losing and coming back and winning, you've made yourself an even bigger name? well them people that said it was done them people that said i'm nothing them all them people that i'm nothing he's shit he's this he's done now i got knocked out he's no chin they're the people that call me out so you know what that means that when they say that they're lying through their fucking teeth and they know it
Starting point is 00:55:05 they know it or else they wouldn't call me out do you mean they if they really thought that about me they wouldn't call me out they don't like what would be the point do you mean, I'm hardly going to think someone's below me and he's dirt, he says, he's not, you know what I mean, he's nothing compared to me and then call mine. It doesn't make any sense to me, so. They're actually helping you there, right? They're actually building your brand for you in a way. The reason why I'm up on this pedestal, getting all that I'm getting, the way everything's
Starting point is 00:55:33 going is because of all these other fighters and they just don't, they don't see it. And they're all thinking, oh, James is marketing himself well and James is doing this. Yeah, a little bit. they're all put me up here. They're the ones that's doing everything for me. They're putting you on the pedestal, right? I'm just chilling back, training away, doing my thing, and everyone else has put me up there.
Starting point is 00:55:54 So it is, so I'm happy. Keep them, keep that going, do I mean? These are all raising my stock. Do you know what I mean? And I'm just the smart one that I don't go on and raise theirs. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely. Tell me a bit about Jeremiah.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Like, what do you think of this guy? Is there anything? Like, when you think about this, about how do you expect it to play out, James? I can see me giving them a lot of punishment. So I kind of can see it being a heavy, a heavy like kind of punishment fight, taking them down, like lots of elbows, lots of growing up,
Starting point is 00:56:24 lots of big shots, breaking them down step by step. I can see it playing down until I get the backing choke. I can just see me brecking them down, chopping them bit by bit. And eventually it'll be too much for him, and it'll crumble underneath it, and underneath the pressure and the strikes.
Starting point is 00:56:42 So, but I feel like it's going to be. be a lot more strike striking like shots on the floor and shots on the feet like a lot of heavy strikes that are going to be the factor rather than just like clean submissions it's going to be more of ground the pounds though yeah i think a lot of people when they kind of consider this fight even like the the first time you guys are matched you're all talking about this guy's jihitsu background and your jihitsu background who's going to come out on top but you see this you see an advantage there in the striking department as well as the grappling because i remember at the time you told me you felt you definitely had the edge on the ground
Starting point is 00:57:13 I feel like I've got the edge everywhere I do, but I'm not about just striking on the feet, I'm by striking on the floor as well. So it is, and it's going to be, like, too heavy for him and just grueling, and shot by shot, like, just make him breath, do you know what I'm saying? Land big, heavy elbows on top of him, and just let him do his thing,
Starting point is 00:57:31 and as he's scrambling away, just land shot by shot. And I feel like after a few, like a couple of minutes of that, he's going to be fucked and eventually gives the back in, and I'll get the choke. he's not, he's just not on my level on the floor. None of these people, I don't have any concerns about any of them on the floor. We spoke briefly about this whole Risen and Bellator crossover. And as we know, Horaguchi, he edged out Caldwell at the weekend.
Starting point is 00:57:57 He's like the unified champion between Risen and Bellator now. Like, not immediately am I asking you to you want this? But is that something that still appeals to you? I remember the last time I spoke to you said that was something you were definitely interested. 100% appeals to me even more now so it does I'd love to you he's a world-class fighter and a tough fight
Starting point is 00:58:21 I would absolutely do anything to be able to step in there and have a unified fight for the two belts I want that and that's something that I'll be coming for in the future is it even bigger deal like I mean this is the debate that people are having like in sport we're basically looking to find the best guy and the fact that Risen and Bellator have come together
Starting point is 00:58:39 Excuse me, that's my phone. The fact that Risen and Bellator have come together and they've kind of made this unified title, do you think that is more substantial than, say, the UFC title? That's the kind of debate that I see kind of happen. The fact that they have merged two promotions to find a champion that makes it, you know, more of a, certainly more ideologically, a pound for pound title, if you get me, yeah. Well, it's just a bigger pool. Do you mean?
Starting point is 00:59:04 You're the champion of a bigger pool of fighters, not only the champion of Ballotter, you're also the champion of Risen, do I mean? two high-level pools of fighters. Do you know what I mean? So if you can come out and claim that you're the top of them two pools, then that's a big deal. Yeah, and I mean, like, as we've talked about before, you're a huge name.
Starting point is 00:59:22 We know that by the amount of guys to call you out. Like, do you think that Harriuchi, that would appeal to Harriuchi if you were in that title mixed to fight you? I feel like, you know, you're one of probably the bigger names that he can fight out of the Bellator organization. 100%. I don't see why not. it's only going to benefit his stock as well, do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:42 Because at the end of the day, I'm doing bigger numbers than him and the Codwell. So it's not, do you know what I mean? And that's fact. That's not me just sitting here waffle on. That's fact. So, of course, it was appealed, but I can see him doing a thing for a bit and maybe down the line, maybe in the next year and a half, I could see that happening. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I got to ask you about Aaron Pico, right? Because there's just so much debate about this guy. There's so much talk. Obviously, Barrox got the win over him at the weekend. But so many people seem to be, you know, criticizing Aaron for what he's done here. But to be fair to him, he's always taken on the hardest fights he possibly can. He's clearly a very talented fighter. When you see a guy like that losing and you see people heaping on and, you know, this happened to you with your loss,
Starting point is 01:00:29 like, do you sympathize with Aaron there? How does it make you feel? 100%. so I do that I feel like hats goes off to him you know what I mean he puts it on the line
Starting point is 01:00:40 every time and it's not I don't particularly like him but you can't you can't hate on someone for doing something like getting defeated
Starting point is 01:00:49 it's just the worst kind of mindset I've ever seen is someone who hits on someone who gets knocked down you know what I mean you have to help these people back up
Starting point is 01:00:57 you can't kick him on when he's down and it's absolutely horrible that people sitting on their sofas with a tent of beers are saying, ah, he's done, he's this, he's that, and he's like, man, he's only 20 fucking four years old or something. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:12 He's got a long time ahead of him. Like, maybe his career hasn't got off, and maybe he doesn't have the potential that some people thought or something like this, but he's not done, do you know what I mean? He's only fucking a young fellow like in doing son he votes, do I mean? He's not, I don't think he should be going anywhere. The only place he should be going is back to the gym and training and maybe take a break from a fight or something,
Starting point is 01:01:35 but go back to the gym, get back on the fokey and horse, and get gone games, you know what I mean? Fuck, I don't be listening to any of these bums that, he's done, he's this, he's that. It's achieved a lot more than any of them kind of people have ever achieved. Absolutely, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I couldn't agree with you more. Now, finally, James, obviously, we know you're the most wanted man in Bellator without a doubt at the moment, but, you know, you're playing your cards close to your chest. As you said to me before, you feel as though you're the biggest fight in this division. Is there anywhere you want to go next?
Starting point is 01:02:07 Like, is there something that you're looking at next in terms of when this fight goes according to plan, you want to fight this guy? Or do you just kind of let things play out the way to, you know, whatever way Bellator want to do it? Or do you have your eyes on something specific beyond this bout? Yeah, I've got me past that I've said, so I do, definitely.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I've got my roots, but, as you say, I keep my cards close and my chest, peatsy. and that's what I'm doing I'm keeping close to me chest and I'm going to be doing a few things after this fight and stuff and for the rest of the year I've the rest of the year planned out for myself
Starting point is 01:02:43 and it's going to go big this year's going to go big for me I'm going to set it all up so when I'm rolling maybe next year again then it's all big fights it's all big things are happening and I'm just then focused enjoying it and improving get my skill set up there
Starting point is 01:03:00 getting everything going for me and just staying fit and healthy. Do you know what I mean? That's my main focus. And then I'm just letting it all play out for me. And yeah, there's a few things I've got mine that I'm going to do over this year. And I'm going to make sure that it all pops off. So I do by the end of the year. Because I'm going to fight now in London, then in September,
Starting point is 01:03:25 and then one at the end of the year as well. So I've got a few things in mind. I'll keep close to my chest until the time. Surely you expect main event there in Dublin if they're coming back in September, James. Yeah, yeah, we'll see what happens. There's a few things in the line.
Starting point is 01:03:40 I think you know something that I don't know, James. Yeah. We'll leave it at that. Thanks so much, man. Yeah, no, we'll see the crack about the Dublin one. Next week, I guess. I guess we'll be planning Dublin next week after I walk in there and choke
Starting point is 01:03:59 this fellow that it will be discussed in Dublin and big things will be happening for Dublin. Brilliant, man. James, thanks so much as always for your time. You know, I always appreciate it and please wish Andy a happy Father's Day from me. Oh, lovely. Thank you very much. All the best. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I, thank you very much. Touch you soon. Bye-bye. And it was fantastic to speak to James Galaher, his big fight with Jeremiah Labiano this weekend on Sky Sports. Make sure he's tune in. I think it's actually pretty good.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I was just saying that over the weekend. I think it's pretty good that they had a good weekend without any kind of UFC competition last weekend on Sky Sports, which would have lead it perfectly into a whole main card being on Sky Sports this weekend. Alas, we've talked about this enough probably. But moving on to that card, let's have a quick look at what's going down on Belator 223, my friend, or Belator London, as we call it. Gagard Massassi v. Hafiel Levato Jr.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Can you look past Gayart here at all? No. No, best middleweight in the world. But when you have a guy like Havel who can, you know, really dominate someone on the ground, I guess we kind of saw something similar with Rory's name.
Starting point is 01:05:06 I was just been to say that. McDonald and Gracie last weekend was, it was a similar kind of despair. I think we're about 9 and O as well going into it. You think Gaygar is, sophisticated enough not to go there. Like I think he is.
Starting point is 01:05:16 His boxing's too good. He's a really good grouler. He's good against the fence. K1, everywhere. So I just think it's too much too soon for Lovato. But it'll be a good test. You know, he'll learn from this one. But I, but I,
Starting point is 01:05:27 do expect Gator to get a finish here and make statements. Yeah, now hang on, I just want to look at the right order. If the right Gagard comes up. Because it's... Because Gagard sometimes, as we know, suffers from motivational problems. And I think we saw that in his Bellator debut, but I would not expect that, obviously being a few
Starting point is 01:05:43 fights into his Bellator career now. We will have a look at this Boutar now. I just wanted to make sure I have it right because it's a bit all over to Gaff online. Lloyd Heavyweight Bout is your main event on the Channel 5 broadcast. Melvin Manoff v. Ken Caponan. You know, everyone's going to like go with,
Starting point is 01:06:01 you know, they want to see Melvin here. He's a legend, obviously, but I'm not real now, Kent here. He shocked the world with that, Alessio Socaranoch out. And again, just to a nod to the Fabian Edwards' exclusion from the main card,
Starting point is 01:06:13 Fabian Edwards beaten Kent Capone in the first round. And now this guy is getting TV placements ahead of him. Look at my face, I know, and like, a Melvin Manoff, come on. Like, yeah, I know, he's another guy it's been around the block.
Starting point is 01:06:26 He's getting Buku dollar for this. Yeah, listen, come on though. Like, you know, give your young guys a chance. Give the guys like Fabian Edwards who have clear paths. Star potential, huge.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Star Power. They need a platform to be on. Yeah, he should be on the Sky Sports, but, you know, Sky Sports portion for me. I'd love to see Fabian on that, and it's a bit of a piss take
Starting point is 01:06:46 that he's not. Well, you can understand, right, Aaron Chalmers is on the Channel 5 car, but when you're... And especially looking on his brother as well in the UFC. Leon, yeah, yeah, of course. Should Bellator not have learned something
Starting point is 01:06:55 from that. Yeah. Like, I mean, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, man.
Starting point is 01:06:58 But it's, I can understand why Aaron Chalmers on the TV broadcast. That's where they got them. That's where they got them. Obviously, I have no qualms with that.
Starting point is 01:07:05 You know, he does bring eyes and the more eyes of this. Someone told me, I don't know if it's true, but there's 750,000 people tuned into his last way. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:07:13 I wouldn't be surprised, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised at all. Everyone's tuned into Love Island these days, huh? That's it. Listen. Same kind of crowd.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I have to, I have to make a confession. We leave that until the end. I can put that in the end portion. I want to slam you for that. I'm on next to your show. God bless you, my son. The main event of the Sky Sports broadcast,
Starting point is 01:07:34 there's only two fights. Paul Daly. Two fights like, what are you doing, lots? It's Paul Daly v. Eric Silva. Eric Silva now 20 and 10 and won no contest in MMA. Paul Daly, 40, 17, and 2.
Starting point is 01:07:49 And then, of course, James Gellerer v. Jeremiah Labiano. I'm very interested in that point of day that much. Yeah, I am. I'm interested in that one. It's supposed to happen a number of times. Yeah, and never going to see it.
Starting point is 01:07:58 As James told us in the interview with that 140 catchway, he just decided, like, well, if I'm not fighting for an opportunity to fight for the title, or I'm not fighting for the title, why would I kill myself to make that way? You know I can make 135. Yeah, and obviously we're not sure it's going to happen with the title now as well after last began, so it's an album now. James already said he wanted to go Japan. Yeah, and he's a real day. I remember Asimbeck-Call, well, yeah, he'd love.
Starting point is 01:08:21 love to go over to Japan. That would be some great, wouldn't it? That would, man. Imagine selling that. Well, he would help Horaguchi sell so well.
Starting point is 01:08:27 But that's what I mean. That's the, I think these two promotions need to do. They need to bounce off each other. They make to have this X factor so people will tune in instead of us watching dinosaurs every week. And like,
Starting point is 01:08:36 I mean, James wasn't, I mean, I asked him about that voice specifically. He sees it happening two years down the line, which is good, like, which makes sense probably, you know, get himself in the toilet contention
Starting point is 01:08:44 and then deal with that way. So very interesting. And look, when you have a guy with the star power of James over here, obviously they're going to be advertising. John Kavana said on a Helwani show today that they're going to be putting out
Starting point is 01:08:57 some of the bouts for the Bellator Dublin card at the end of this event in London so could be very interesting to see and James kind of hinted that they were already talking about something. Why is John saying this? Is he a Belator a matchmaker? I thought he's stupid. He only suggests. Okay, all right, okay.
Starting point is 01:09:16 All right. Yeah, no, he denied that again. Yeah, okay. So, no. But on the preliminary card, the main event of the preliminary card, fucking so many main events. Oh, stop. It's Fabian Edwards versus John. The main event is the primary card or the headline in the main event? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:09:35 But a big fight for Fabian. And I like the way they've put these two fights together. Mike Shipman v. Costello Van Steenis is underneath it. And that's the winner of both them fights should face each other. It shouldn't be. And look, Fabian v. Shipman is the ideal fight. for UK. If they're going UK,
Starting point is 01:09:52 do it in Ireland for all I care, man. I really like that. But, um, yeah, I hope, I hope, um, they managed to get that storyline across on the broadcast.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Like they have God there. Garaday Davies, he'll be aware of that situation. Hopefully they can highlight the people store up the interest between those two middleweights, uh, potential winners.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Costello, and Stain is certainly not a walk in the park from Mike Shipman. Yeah. He could spoil the whole thing, but I'd watch, I'd watch Fabian v. Costello,
Starting point is 01:10:17 if that's what happens. I think most people expect Fabian to go through Jonathan Busoku was taking a huge step up in competition here he's fighting a blue chip prospect he's on a good run of fights I think he's five but he does have those four losses to his name so you'd expect that Fabian would be able
Starting point is 01:10:32 to get the job done moving down to card Charlie Ward v. Justin Moore 7 and 3 Charlie Ward 6 and 3 he's been on a good run with that far as far as in Harrison we had that Walter Gahadza v Oliver N camp fight that we talked about a few weeks ago
Starting point is 01:10:46 and Denise Kyle Houtes Jesus, Keyholtz versus Brioni Terrell. Chris Bungard v. Charlie Leary, Jesus, that's down there, isn't it? It's a good fight. That's a good fight to be all the way down there, for sure, man. Kate Jackson v. Lina, can't pronounce her second name. Terry Brazer v. Alessandro Botti, an Italian prospect, I believe I saw one of my Italian friends speaking about this recently. Nathan Rose, Jimmy Mano endorsed going against Luke Ord.
Starting point is 01:11:16 We have Alfie Davis, the kickboxing thing. against George Canella. We have Justin Burlington against Wendell Lewis. Galarba Fondo versus Keith McCabe. What an opportunity. What an opportunity for Keith McAid. Massive opportunity for Keith.
Starting point is 01:11:32 I'd go as far as saying that Galoerba Fondo has an overwhelming advantage on the striking, but I think Keith McCabe is an overwhelming advantage on the ground. And if he wins this, if he wins this, I kind of poked a little fire there at the weekend. What about Keith McCabe?
Starting point is 01:11:49 versus Dylan Danes in Dublin. Dude. I don't even think a win or a loss set up that fight as long as it's not as long as he doesn't
Starting point is 01:11:58 suffer a bad KO or something. I think that would store up so much local interest with Roano versus SBG and we've seen Keith fight. We know he's a real dog in there like I mean and I think the fact that he has suffered losses
Starting point is 01:12:10 to Kiley and Crosby that will even kind of help his chances of making that fight happen you know? Definitely. And he's, when was it was it? Was it Obama Belfast against, who did we see him fight?
Starting point is 01:12:23 Hang on, I'll see if we can get it up here. Obama, was his last, was his last fight? He was in the Ukraine for his last fight, I believe. Oh, was he, okay. He fought someone in the heel hook against someone I was a phenomenal performance. Glenn Irvine, mate, was it? I don't know. Okay, yeah, that was it, I think.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Okay, go on. Sorry, I'm confusing things here. Kevin Frey, John Redmond. Oh, sorry, I thought he was fighting George Tuckus. That's a replacement fight there for John Redmond. I didn't realize that happened. But what about this? man at the very bottom the the curtain jerker of the whole thing
Starting point is 01:12:52 Nathan Grayson violent money against Franz Malamo yeah geez that's a great fight that's opening the car that's a great fight Jesus Christ it's unbelievable that's I love Grayson's story that should be knocking on yeah he's got a great personality I really believe he's a very marketable deal with that Nathan Grayson but that is no walk in the park man Franz Malambo who has been basically fed a much higher pedigree than where he was at when he was an amateur. Straight into the pro ranks, they were feeding him to the dogs. Franz was still there.
Starting point is 01:13:23 He's six and four, but he was fighting. I think he's had three title fights and Brave against Lohman, who's a savage. So I think that's a brilliant fight. I'm surprised that's right down there at the end. That's... Yeah, it is. That is crazy. Man, that is absolutely insane.
Starting point is 01:13:37 I cannot believe that. But, yeah, so just thoughts on this card. You were making so much noise today. Sorry, I'm just moving stuff around here. but what do you think? Do you think this will be on the same level of traction as we saw for Bellator, Dublin, or is there something just special about Ireland, you know, in general? There is, I think, something special with the Dublin cards,
Starting point is 01:13:58 but I think if you look at maybe the fighters on this and the matchups, there may be a little bit more even than we saw here in Dublin. Yeah, that's fair. I think we saw the outcomes, we knew the results of the fights in Dublin. That's very fair, yeah, that's a good, that's a, yeah, confidence. And I think here there's a lot more, there's a lot more sort of battling and to see he's going to get the job done here
Starting point is 01:14:17 obviously Labiano I think is again a step up for James Galaher people who are saying he isn't a step up are clueless man look how many fights the guys and he's a black belt and jihitsu what do you want? Exactly so you look at the main event you've gagged Missasi against Lovado
Starting point is 01:14:31 there's a little bit of intrigue obviously the unknown and you know we did allude to what happened last weekend but Lovato is obviously a different fighter in very similar in many ways to Gracie but very different threats. So that is a fascinating element. You know, if the fight goes to the ground,
Starting point is 01:14:48 you know, how will Gagard control him? You know, obviously Levato will have the advantage in the Jits, but Gagart's so good and so powerful that we just don't really know. And I would expect Gagher's come out and top of that. But if you do look at the matchmaking top to bottom, and you've even said it there, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:04 the first fight of the night, I think it pretty much proves that that's a wonderful fight to be able to consume. I'm actually looking forward to Grayson v. Malambo more than, you know, The vast majority of this card. Yeah, I agree. But look at, you know, Eric Ciel, I know he's probably a spanned force as well
Starting point is 01:15:18 against Paul Daly. It's an intriguing flight to watch. Yeah. It's something that people will be, you know, you wouldn't put your house in either of them guys with. I'd probably put my house on daily, but that's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:15:26 But, yeah, it's a very good card. Does this hint that, like, I mean, if you're Sky Sports and you're seeing this, like as in, they're only giving them an hour here, what does that say about their relationship with Bellator? Yeah. it says, you know, to Bellator fuck up with the contracts
Starting point is 01:15:46 before this was done, you know. Are they an afterthought is what I'm wondering, like, you know? Yeah. No, no, I would agree with that, but, you know, it seems to be with this European series where the cards are all over the shop. Yeah, they need, to have someone addressing who they want on their team.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Obviously, they got it right here with James, but I know I've said it a million times. We're going to hear from in a minute, Fabian Edwards. How do you not deal with that, man? Yeah. It's just, It's just, it's mind. You know, I think for, for their audience, they're looking at a, you know, a big, old-school name.
Starting point is 01:16:18 And the name there is, you know, Paul Daly. He's been in the UFC. Absolutely. You know, I can understand it to a certain extent. But where's the intrigue levels with Paul Daly after that MVP fight? No, there's not many. I agree with you. It's in the dirt.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Like, I mean, not the guy's career, but just in terms of what he's bringing to the fight at the moment. Like, he probably does as ever main card slot. But, I mean, if you're spreading it across two channels, you expect to be able to fit, like, you know, eight fights on between the two of them. It just seems to be. bit redundant to me. It does and it's silly like I don't want to harp on about it but what's more annoying this or UFC charging for pay-per-views?
Starting point is 01:16:52 Probably this. Yeah? Yeah, I think so. It's just you know, it's just, that's just a dopey move from the UFC and I think they'll probably retract it off at the first one when they sell five of them. Like, this is just going on for a long long time with Bellator. It's just, it's beyond
Starting point is 01:17:08 frustrating. It's just, you know, it's just like I've given up at this day. Like I'm just feel like I feel resigns to losing that their crap with doing TV deals and stuff on this side of the pond. So yeah, I would go along and say this is the more frustrating, disappointing thing. And, you know, I'm sure Sky will get, like, they've got to get this right, man, within this year. Time's ticking. Time is ticking. But what I would imagine with the European series, a deal was already signed with Channel 5. But, you know, surely they could have come to some sort of agreement where... But this is a numbered event. These are the ones that are meant to be on Sky Sports.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't understand it. But yeah. Now we'll have a look at this UFC Greenville card, which is headlined by Hanato Moikano and Chan Sung-Jun, one of my faves. Great, great fight at the top of the card. Really like it. I feel like the Korean Zobby has a lot to gain against Moikano,
Starting point is 01:18:01 even though he's probably a more international, bigger international name, you know. Because of Moikano's proximity to the title for so long, and he went on that run and it looked like it was all set up until Aldo. extinguished that fire, should I say. We got John Lineker. We have Rob Font in the Kau Main event. That's going to be a nice one. Is that a rematch?
Starting point is 01:18:23 Turn off your phone, Petey. I'm not turning it off, but I'll definitely put on something. Is that a rematch, John Lineker and Rob Font? It is. It feels like John Lindekar has just fought everyone in the 135 pound division. It is indeed, yes. UFC 198 rematch where Rob Font lost. to John Lennacher by decision.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Unanimous. We were probably at that. We might have been. 198. Where are we? Curitiba, no, we weren't in Brazil. It's just so hard to keep track of what events you go to. It's, it's, it's, MMA is a crazy, crazy world.
Starting point is 01:18:57 But, yeah, some good scraps. Yeah, Brian Barbarine against Randy Brown. Andrea Lee against Montana de la Hosa. KGB. And then we come to our first European of the night. Mali. Alessio. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 01:19:11 I'm confused here. Chirico against Kevin Holland. Kevin Holland is great to watch, man. I'm happy to watch him. We're in every fight. Alessio, big step. Well,
Starting point is 01:19:23 not a big step up, I guess, but, you know, tough L fight. We saw Holland against John Phillips, I believe it was in Shanghai. He looked really good over there. I don't know if that was a Shanghai fight.
Starting point is 01:19:32 I might be wrong there. Tell you now. Beijing. Jesus Christ, Pizzi. But, yeah, he's been on a,
Starting point is 01:19:39 he's on a two-fight win streak. You'd be Gerald Mercer. Shart split decision in his last fight and now he's up against Alessio. You know, Italian M.A., they need a big L win in the UFC. You know what I mean? They had Marvin Vittori disappear with that Usada band. That turned out to be tainted supplements, but now we've got, but that was the one remember they said the four guys, but obviously Alessio is on a two-foyt win streak,
Starting point is 01:20:02 a split decision win. His last one against Julian Marquez. He's also bet Bombose with that knee in the second round, I think you'll remember. but Kevin Holland it's definitely a step-up in competition man and he's going to have to get ready for those bombs because that man can crack he is very exciting to watch man
Starting point is 01:20:19 I really like watching the Honolent fight it is a good scrap and the Italian is going to have to come up with something new here it's going to be a tough one he's going to have to mix it up a lot like keep showing the trefer to take downs to stop his vicious
Starting point is 01:20:33 vicious, his vicious, vicious striking style but it's a good fight it's a good fight it's a good fight it's a good test to see where he is as well, I think. You know, that Tiago Santos fight was pretty, pretty, was that a split decision, victory? Which who was the Tiago Santos fight?
Starting point is 01:20:54 For Holland? Was it Holland he fought? Yeah, if you fight, 227, it was unanimous decision loss. There, so he will have learned after that. We saw the Phillips fight, obviously, then Gerald Mearsart. He's been impressive, but there's going to be new tricks needed from Chirichik Chirico in the scrap
Starting point is 01:21:13 decent card top to bottom it's not bottom Ashi Yoder Suricondo Danny Oig v. Kevin Aguilar Matt Wyman
Starting point is 01:21:21 v. Italy's Louis Penna You're not having that Aren't you? No, not at all Get out of here some The big European interest
Starting point is 01:21:28 on the card of course is Mollya McCann v. The Vileance Queen Ariane Lipski Do we claim Lipski as well?
Starting point is 01:21:34 She's Brazilian. Yeah, I know she's Brazilian but she's got a kind of Polish second name. She sort of lives on I don't know. I'm not ready to do
Starting point is 01:21:39 for this event because we have Molly we have Molly in there so it's fair enough maybe next fight area and you can be European again but um Cage Warriors champ v KSW champ I thought there be a bit more interesting this to be honest than the lead up to it but I guess it's just one of those weekends where there's so many things happening
Starting point is 01:21:54 that I might have fallen under the radar a bit but um yeah like I mean I feel like this would be a big win for Molly McCann I think a lot of people who have watched KSW fancy Ariane to get the job done in the strike and exchanges very interesting to say she's been in Spockto as well yeah yeah like i mean i felt like that was a baptism of fire against john collard would i really do but um molly molly is very very heavy on top as well like we've seen her mix are boxing up
Starting point is 01:22:20 with her takedowns before she's very good at it um i think that a problem here could be in the stand-up for molly and maybe the speed of lipski and you know she's she's she can't be as hesitant that she was against collard exactly she has to let go and i think maybe that comes you know listen we'll give her the benefit of the day her ufc debu nerves I don't think we're going to see that from Lipski. We've seen her enough in KSW to know how they've got a violence queen for nothing. I think this could be one of those where they stand,
Starting point is 01:22:47 trade and bang. I'm not sure if I like that for Molley in terms of how good Lipski's strike and we've seen it to be. Really interesting fight. You're just wondering, you know, is it maybe a little bit too soon for Mollie again to get back in there?
Starting point is 01:23:02 I would have liked to see Mollie take a little bit more time after that eye injury. It looked pretty pretty bad man. We saw it and pretty well. person. It was pretty nerdy and nasty. And, you know, it's not just the eye. It's being affected. It's obviously, you know, head trauma and things like that. I would have liked to see Molly take three, four more months extra here in this situation. I'm not jump back in there. I know there's that excitement, that momentum. But sometimes you've just got to stop and go, no. Let's just take a little
Starting point is 01:23:27 bit more time out. Maybe so. I guess we're only going to find out on fight. Really. Yeah. You know, I do, like, I do agree with you as far as what you were saying about Ariane, how brilliant she was of KSW. But I would say the same thing about Molly. with cage warriors. I mean, she put on some exceptionally dominant performances there
Starting point is 01:23:44 and so there you am but they were dealing with lesser opposition that's a fact there's no doubt about it and so very intrigued by that one I think it's pretty
Starting point is 01:23:51 look at this the fight and it's definitely one that stands out from you I think this potential fight at the night I really do with the boat styles
Starting point is 01:23:57 of the fighters as well and you're not putting either away easily no no no no no no Darren Wayne Daniel Carmier's apprentice is also
Starting point is 01:24:06 making his debut on this card he's going to fight Eric Spice He's only a late replacement back in the UFC. That's right. Eric Spoisty, yeah. I don't like that fight for Eric Spicey, man.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Darren Win, have you seen him before? He's quite short in stature, but he is huge in terms of his wrestling ability. And good striking as well. He gets in and out very well for a small guy. And, yeah, I expect his career to get off to a flying start in Greenville. Finishing out the card, it's Andre Ewell and Anderson de Santos. Let's get on to what we really want to talk about, Noel. The thing you've been looking forward to for months and months and months.
Starting point is 01:24:39 it's Polly Malinaghi versus Artem Lobov comments Next Are you not going to watch this? Honestly? Do you want my honest answer? Probably not.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Really? I'll come to that now Yeah, I'll be entertaining mixed martial arts cards ahead of this, definitely. I'll be definitely switching flicking over. Shameing you. But I was just saying to you
Starting point is 01:25:05 before we went on air all my mates, I don't see them that off them because I work all day, all night, all the time. It's very annoying. When I do see them, they're talking about this card. No one's mentioned to me, oh, man, I can't wait for that Gaygard v. Lovato fight. That's going to be savage. They haven't been saying, like, I can't wait for Hanato Moikano and Chan Song Junk. Every single one of them is like, are you watching Artem Loboff and Polymalanagi? Can we come over to watch this in your house? Look, there is...
Starting point is 01:25:32 You should tend to watch it online. There's an unbelievable amount of interest in this fight, and it's probably it's probably not gone the most it's probably not to be the most PC build up to a fight ever like we've seen Polly spitting on everything that moves
Starting point is 01:25:48 we've seen it talking about pissing in Artem's mouth when he after he breaks his teeth but is this the only way to sell this because it is let's be honest it is not anywhere near as credible as even MMA
Starting point is 01:26:03 it's like as far as say mainstream sports thing, this is in the gutter. It's trash. So do you sell it like it's in the gutter? What I suppose to do, because they have. And that's not been Artem's fault. That's been Paulie Malinage. The guy who has come from the... And shot on MMA fans. Yeah, yeah. Well, I suppose that's how you sell it too.
Starting point is 01:26:22 But as I've said to you before, I really feel as though Polly's behavior has actually made Artem more of a savior. Like, it's pushing out like the cult hero. Artem's definitely coming out better of this. He's had to be the biggest name of Baron-Uklet. You know, where... Oh, easily. Yeah, no, definitely. I think Artham, you know, in terms of how he's handled himself very well, as he did in Brooklyn, I'll give him that as well, when the whole stuff kicked off with Habib. He's helped with it, you know, he's out very well. He's been classy. He's been obviously said a few things to Artham, but he is not to Paulie, but he's not engaged on the level or stooped as low. I'm not talking about pissing and do his mouth. As Paulie's level, and I think Paulie is a disgrace, and I'm pretty much sick of him now, to be honest. I've been sick of him for quite a long time. He's a mouth, like a gutter, and I'd love.
Starting point is 01:27:05 like for that goder to be shut, to be honest you. So you are going to watch you? No, I'll watch some highlights. I'm not. I'm not. Honestly, I would definitely be watching mixed martial arts ahead and there is mixed martial arts on so I'll be consuming the mixed martial arts in Saturday night. What if someone's in the Harley Davidson preth point? You get an opportunity
Starting point is 01:27:21 to flick over. No. But yeah, it's so interesting. It is interesting. I can't help it. It's a phenomenon. Like, I mean, they've managed, I don't know how, to make this one of the most anticipated fights of this whole month. Is it?
Starting point is 01:27:36 I think it is, yeah? I really do. And I think I saw Sean Al Shadi and Jose Young's talking about this. Is it because they, is it because this is more or less a sequel to Khabib V. McGregor that's carrying so much interest? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:51 You know, that's, it's a part of it. It's, it's a spin-off. It's like, you know, Friends Part 2 with Joey and someone. I don't know. You know, it's, it is. It is like that. And I think that's really the only reason why it's getting any traction. man, Ladsie still a big name. He's still a guy who does, you know, an analysis.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Is that going to last if you keep talking about pissing people's mouths? Well, I don't think it should really, and I'm sure there is some, I don't know, I've mentioned before, that there must be something in his contract for gross misconduct where, you know, actions outside of his work where he could be suspended. You can't go on spitting on people's faces, man. It's disgusting, you know, it is. It's absolutely horrible. And I don't like the guy. You know, he puts a dirty taste. I've heard a lot of people talking like that, to be honest. like I mean even the gentle giant of
Starting point is 01:28:36 MMA, Phil the freeze came out and he's like this is a this guy's a disgrace, you know what I mean? And you don't hear Phil talking like that, right? Yeah, yeah, Phil's a very respectful guy and I don't think Paulius showed any class in much he's done at all lately and I think a lot of people
Starting point is 01:28:52 be rooting for Arctam as we said earlier on and I think you know listen Paulie's never been a guy to hit a guy particularly hard he's had broken his hands numerous many occasions during his career and this is a different ball game as you know we talked about it's a few weeks ago and you watch some of the fight
Starting point is 01:29:06 sometimes your tactics go out the window you see guys swinging for the fences guys that would have been good tactically in mixed martial arts in terms of their stand-up just goes out the window and who's to say Artham can't hit harder than Polly Malinagia because Polly doesn't hit hard
Starting point is 01:29:18 I don't think that's a competition but what I do fear is the one thing I do fear for Artham is if Polly wins this it's going to be whatever it is three minute rounds are they five or something I think it's like three three minute rounds I'm not sure I don't even know
Starting point is 01:29:31 that's going to be nine minutes of lacerations. Because I don't see Polly putting them away. So it's just going to be jab, jab, jab, jab with bare knuckles. Yeah. And look at the way Artim opened up after the... Yeah, there's a lot of scar tissue there. Yeah, I see a lot of scar on those eyes.
Starting point is 01:29:45 And, you know, you know, these guys for years. Like, you're going to... You know, you hope he doesn't have... You know, you just hope he isn't disfigured from it. It's a quick turnaround as well, man. And, you know, and we talk about that earlier on. Oh, he was just showing me dad. I was just showing me dad the pictures of Artim's face after the last fight and explained
Starting point is 01:30:01 to him he's fighting again. you know, it's hard to believe for a lot of people, but he is a tough motherfucker. There's no doubt about that. Yeah, can we draw a line under this name? Yeah, yeah, it works. So now we'll move on to our third interview of the day, and it's Mr. Tasty Shots himself. It's Fabian Edwards. We talked to him about RDA v. Leon.
Starting point is 01:30:20 We talked to him about the looming prospect of a fight with either Mike Shipman or Kostlovenstainis, and we talked about his upcoming about with Jonathan Busakou. So, yeah, great to talk to Mr. Tasey Shots, and we're going to be back with Tinder from Porto and much more action like that in about 15 minutes. And once again, we are joined by one of the best prospects in the UK and maybe all of Europe.
Starting point is 01:30:45 It is Mr Fabian Edwards, who is in action again at Bellator London. Fabian, how are you getting on first of all, man? I'm getting on good, you know, I'm back-to-back-to-back camps. I should say back-to-back-to-back-camps because my third fight, you know what I mean? So I'm getting on good. I feel good, feel great. This is a new contract, I believe, right? I mean, tell me a bit about that.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Are you happy with your new situation? Is this a big jump up compared to what you were on initially? Yeah, yeah, it definitely is. You know, I think after the last fight, there was like, we need to keep this guy, you know what I mean? So they came at me and we spoke money, we spoke about whatever. And I was happy, I was happy with a deal,
Starting point is 01:31:26 so I thought why not? It's a great deal. Was there any part of you? that was tempted to test free agency because a lot of people believe that you are one of these blue chip prospects that does have the potential to cross over to the UFC and that's not something that every bellator fighter can do well that's that's what it's believed anyway yeah there wasn't at this point i thought you know what like i've got um my goals are to collect that world title so i'm collect that world title first before i go to free agent and start testing the waters right right yeah
Starting point is 01:31:59 yeah and that's something you've always said right that was your goal from the outset with Bellator as soon as you got that multi-fight deal, right? Yeah, that was it, you know, and the goal ain't changed, it ain't going to change, so I'm going to clear that world title, and then we'll look at, we look at where else we can go and collect some more world title, because, like I say, I'm in this sport for, for legacy and also to earn big bucks. Absolutely, man. I got to ask you, Roy, because when this fight was announced, Jonathan Bosoku, a lot of
Starting point is 01:32:26 people were kind of saying, well, we wanted to see Fabian have a bigger step up. Is this still a situation that you're in where, you know, you are finding it hard to get people to sign the Doddle line, right you? Um, it's there is. People are saying, people are saying, I want to see me step up. I'm asking for the step up. But at the end of the day, Belator does what Belator wants to do. So, I'm actually for the competition, really and truly, it would have made perfect sense for me to be fighting Mike Shipman. Yes.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Co-main on the London card. That would have made sense. but they've got other plans. Yeah, I mean, like, I'm looking at this card, and there's a lot of middle-way action going down, but most prominently with you, I suppose, because of the beef with Shipman, the Kostlo Van Steens and Mike Shipman fight is jumping out at me.
Starting point is 01:33:16 And as you said, a lot of people thought it would have been perfect for you to fight shipment on this card. Are you looking for the winner of that fight? Is that what you're looking at next? Because I know how much interest that would provoke. If it is Shipman who gets his hand raised here, a UK versus UK prospect v prospect fight would be absolutely massive. Yeah, that would be huge.
Starting point is 01:33:36 That would be huge. So I'm hoping to get a hand-ray because I think that would set up a huge UK fight. That could even be a main event back in Birmingham. So that's what I'm looking forward to. That's what I'm looking forward to. Belator put on a lot of middle-ways fight. So it gives me a chance to sit back and watch everyone perform and, you know, and just see how everyone perform and let's go from there.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Yeah, and I'm seeing Kent, the guy that you already caught and defeated is fighting Melvin Manoff. And when I saw that fight, I was like, Jesus Christ, I'd love to see Fabian fight Melvin Manoff. And I know it's at 205 though, but I mean, there seems to be, I feel like a lot of storylines could be created in this fight if you get me. I feel like a lot of people could come away from this going, geez, I'd love to see this guy fighting this guy. And because of the action at 185, even the title fight at the top, you could be kind of, you could be at the top of people's thoughts coming out of this event, right? right yeah that's it you know i'm looking to go in there and i mean when everyone leave leaves that night everyone would be saying fuck you know do you see that favorite performance you know what i mean so that's what i'm leaving that's i'm trying to leave a lasting impression so there's a lot of
Starting point is 01:34:45 middleweights on the card i'm looking at i'm looking at two middleweight fights and that's the world championship and mike shipment fight right right and i mean that is something like you know that that often comes to the territory when you you fight, you know, the big spectacular finishes. You, it's your calling card at this stage. But for me, for me, like, you know, you came away disappointed from the lead Chadwick fight, but that was so impressive to me. Does it feel like, you know, expectations are getting extremely high for you at this
Starting point is 01:35:16 current moment where, you know what I mean? You need to do something absolutely out of this world to keep up with your previous form. No, it's what I did. At one point, I did the Chadwick fight. I felt that way. and then I've watched it back and I want to put everything into
Starting point is 01:35:33 when I looked at everything, I thought to myself I was the 5-0-0 guy taking on a guy that's had 38 fights and I went in there I made them look amateur, so I wasn't so pissed off as I was originally, you know, all my team around me have told me, don't
Starting point is 01:35:53 go out there and look for no finishes, let's go out there and this deep job, you know what I mean, and the finishes will come, So to be honest, I've got over that stage now. I don't really care. Obviously, I'm a finisher anyway. So I'm going out there to finish people, but I'm not going out there and trying crazy stuff if I don't see the finish. Absolutely, man.
Starting point is 01:36:12 I've got to ask you about Leon because UK and European fans are rejoicing at the fact that this RDA fight has been made. I mean, how good does this feel? How good is the mood in the Edwards family after this fight has been announced? It is a very good mood, you know. Everyone's happy. It's about time, BUSA, fucking pull their finger out,
Starting point is 01:36:33 you know what I mean, and giving what he deserves. So I'm happy that they're, that they listen to the public and they've given him, and they've finally given him a top five, you know, and now it's time for that,
Starting point is 01:36:45 for that championship, you know what I'm going to smoke all day and then make his run for that belt. Yeah, like, I mean, I'm not going to lie to you. It really frustrates me when I see some of the attitudes people have towards Leon
Starting point is 01:36:56 after the resumes he's put together, I think it's absolutely ridiculous, to be quite honest with you. And do you feel like people will come away from this fight knowing that, okay, maybe we had Leon wrong here. Do you believe that this will be the breakout performance? I believe he's already had plenty of breakout performance, but do you believe this is going to be the one that changes the public perception on Leon?
Starting point is 01:37:15 Because I think it's well overdue. Yeah, I think you will. I think it will, you know, like it doesn't make sense that you had a public view. I mean, it doesn't make sense at all. You know what, people just jump on, there's just a lot of bandwagon people. people jumping on.
Starting point is 01:37:28 They don't even know the sport team. The tree piece with the soda bullshit on the... Yeah, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? The fucking... Meanwhile, they're saying three pieces on a soda. I mean, we're fucking out here fighting and making enough money to buy the whole fucking the soda shop or whatever.
Starting point is 01:37:44 I mean, we're making money out here. And I'm winning fights. So, you know what I mean? You got these fat guys at home talking shit. But at the end of the day, when he goes out there and he smokes a RDA, people that have to give him a respect. I mean, people should, real fans, real, real MMA fans that knows fighting, they all they respect him, so, you know, people jump in the bandwagon after it goes out there and do his job.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Do you really feel that way, like when you were speaking about this matchup, first of all, you think he has the ability to smoke, Rafael de Sannios? We just saw what RDA did to Kevin Lee. I mean, do you believe Leon is capable of going out there and putting on a showstop and performance, so to speak? I really do. I really do. like at the end of the day, I train with this man day in, day out, you know, and everyone in the gym will know how good is,
Starting point is 01:38:34 and then he goes out there, and he performs, you know, like his last flight, he's grappling with, he's grappling with one of the best grapplers in the UFC. Yes. I mean, many people, that wouldn't be the game plan.
Starting point is 01:38:45 The game plan would be to stay as far as far as we can from Ghana. You know what I mean? So that, that to me prove that he's on another level. You know, he's just on another level, and he's still growing because he's still young in the sport. Absolutely, man. And look, let's talk about this fight with Jonathan.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Like, I mean, do you go and try to dig up loads of footage on your opponents or is it just more about you? Do you know what threats this man possesses when he's getting in the cage with you? Yeah, he's always. I sit down. I watch his fights, but I'm not one of these fighters that go out there. I think, ah, I'm worried about him. I don't worry about anyone.
Starting point is 01:39:22 That doesn't surprise me to hear that about you, Fabian, to be honest. I don't worry about fucking nobody at all. And that's not even, you know what I mean? That's just how it goes. I look, I see, I see what it likes to do. I see what it likes to do. Then I work different ways and how to stile for that, you know, and stop those attacks.
Starting point is 01:39:41 And then that's working myself. At the end of the day, it's about myself. I'm not going to go out there and worry about somebody. Because regardless, he's going to do what he's going to do anyways. You know what I mean? It doesn't matter how much I worry. He's going to try those moves anyway. So I just look at him.
Starting point is 01:39:54 I see what I see what. what he's meant to be good at or what he likes to do. And now let's go out there and shut it down. What do you think? Like, I mean, when you look at this, I know you say you aren't going out there hunting for a finish, but do you believe this man is capable of going the full 15 minutes with you? Or do you think it's... Oh, but no.
Starting point is 01:40:09 No way. No, I didn't even want you to finish your conversation. No way. Is he going to 15 minutes? You know what I mean? At the end of the day, I'm not going out there swinging what a punch is, but at the same time, from the last two, performers, is what I've learned from that is
Starting point is 01:40:27 I should have picked the pace up. Obviously, the Netto fight, we never really had a chance to see a lot from separation because he's trying to hold on to me for his day of life. But with a tragic fight, there's a lot of shots that I should have thrown and could have thrown. And I've learned
Starting point is 01:40:45 from that massively. So with Jonathan, I'm looking to go out there. And like, the game plan has just been to stick it on him. You know what I mean? Stick it on him with movement and some tasty shots. Mr. Tasty shots, that's your name. Mr. Tasty? That's what I'm going to be next Saturday. Does it give you any kind of extra confidence when you know that Netto has come back with that positive test?
Starting point is 01:41:06 He was on steroids when he was fighting you, or so the test says. Does that give you an extra confidence, or do you take anything away from that at all? I don't take anything from it. It doesn't matter how much dead it takes it's not going to improve your chin and it's not going to get you better. You know what I mean? If you're a shit fight, you're a shit fighter. And then they, which brain, you know, I mean, people think you take all these drugs. It's going to make them work, make them good.
Starting point is 01:41:30 But if you're shit, you're shit, you know what I mean? And that's it. You know, fuck it. I don't take anything away from me. You still got chinned. I mean, I still walked away with my full paycheck on a fucking viral video. So I'm not bothered about it. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:41:46 And, I mean, like, just a final question, Fabian. Out of all the European signings, do you believe that you are the biggest success story? Because I certainly am feeling that way. You know, out of all that, the amorphous signings they made, I feel like you are one of the big success stories of this whole situation. I think I'm the only one. Like, fuck, you know. Like, I've had more fights than any of these guys that's been signed.
Starting point is 01:42:10 You know what I mean? Like, I've had more fights in five months. I fought in February and then May and now I'm fine in June. I mean, a lot of these guys, they've fought. So, you show us to me that Belator that don't need. I mean, Belator has signed them. but Belator ain't trying to fight them every other month
Starting point is 01:42:27 they're trying to fight them whenever they go back to the hometown so that shows to me that I'm the main guy you know shows to me I'm the main guy and rifle self you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:42:37 I'm going out of there performing so fuck it you know I feel like personally I'm not getting help from no one to promote myself I'm doing my own promotion I mean
Starting point is 01:42:46 you got a lot you got some of these guys don't know where they are because where they train you know what i mean the only you only got contract because who didn't know i mean i got contract because i've gone out there smacking people's chins off
Starting point is 01:43:00 you know i mean that's how i got my contract from you know i mean so yeah belator bellator knows i start when to see one absolutely yeah no i agree with you and and and just finally like sorry i know i said it was already the last question but i tend to know this you love talking to me though yeah
Starting point is 01:43:17 yeah but um you know like like i told you this before. I have so much respect for you after like, you know, when you told me the story about, you know, you were working as a, as a janitor, a cleaner before you took this fight. Like, it's so, it's so pleasing to me to see how your, your life and your wealth has increased and, you know, see you driving around in the Merck. I'm very proud of you. But does it, does it feel good? Like, it must feel really good to, uh, to be earning this kind of money and to be raising your profile the way you are. It feels good. It feels good. It feels good to know that.
Starting point is 01:43:50 self-belief and hard work and dedication, everything just coming into play and it's all just starting to make me a proper living. You know, I've booked holidays. I've given my money. I mean, I've looked after my family. And it's literally only the beginning. It's only just the beginning.
Starting point is 01:44:12 So I'm grateful, forever grateful. You know, like sometimes I'm driving around, I think to myself, fucking, I mean, last year, I was fucking, I drive around me doors for, enough. That's why I'm living now. You know what I mean? So I was like,
Starting point is 01:44:26 life change is quick, but, you know what I mean? I'm always focused on it. So I'm always focused and I'm always trying to achieve more now. So this is only the start. It's only the start.
Starting point is 01:44:39 So I'm forever grateful. Well, long may it last, Fabian. Always a pleasure to speak to you. I can't wait to see the fight. And best look to you and your brother going forward. thank you all the best my friend thanks see you bye bye big thank you to fabian
Starting point is 01:44:55 edwards looking forward to seeing that man fight this week as I always am while we're on the topic of big fights for the UK it's brendon lock nine this weekend against bill algio tonight oh yeah sorry I forgot that we recorded this on Monday and you listen to it on a
Starting point is 01:45:11 Tuesday so tonight Brendan lock nine and bill algio it's not an easy fight I'll tell you that much but I don't think I've ever seen someone bring the same amount of traction to this platform as he has. And the UFC should absolutely be noticing this. Manchester United players talking about Tyson Fury. So many people have been on about it.
Starting point is 01:45:31 It's brilliant. It's brilliant. I'm happy for Brendan. Finally. We've been talking about this guy. We've been interviewing from years. We've known how good he is. You know,
Starting point is 01:45:41 arguably got robbed of the decision right here in Dublin against one of the great European prospects who's recently retired in Tom Duquesneau. you know just a just a good guy he was obviously on the um ultimate fighter um season the smashes smashes where norman park won and he came in i think he's a 19 year old at that stage is pretty crazy like to see how long ago it is but yeah as you said a really tough opponent to bill algio he was on i think
Starting point is 01:46:09 Dana White picked him up from cbill fc in philadelphia on um dana white it was um i think it was cwbbl fc and it was uh it was on Dana's show on YouTube. Looking for a fight. Where he picked him up. So yeah, he looks, Bill Al Jellos, no walkover.
Starting point is 01:46:26 A good, good fighter, but big opportunity from Brendan. You feel as though, you know, he has to take this one. It's just to play devil's advocate. Yeah. The contract has been
Starting point is 01:46:37 in front of him beyond a fight a couple of times and it didn't come to fruition. Is there any part of you that's like... No, I think Brandon's come too far. I think the work's been put in. You know, he's worked with Dominic Cruz for a long, long time.
Starting point is 01:46:49 worked in Manchester, obviously with Caymuse and it would be heartbreaking. It would. Listen, I do. But this is a real fight, everybody.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Like, I mean, go and look at Bill Aljo's record. This is no walk in the park. I think this is a step up from Brendan's last couple of opponents. I think Brennan's certainly a step up. I think,
Starting point is 01:47:06 I think, Brendan has certainly a step up for Bill too. Definitely. It's a really competitive fight. It's worthy of a UFC card. Oh, definitely.
Starting point is 01:47:14 I totally agree with you. And yeah, I do. I hope it works out for Bren. I really do because he's, he's deserved this and it's been long overdue you know this other stuff might have gone on we didn't know about but
Starting point is 01:47:24 finally it's here and I think I don't think Brandon can I don't think he's an option to lose this fight really I think it's that big of a fight for me it is a must win he's 29 years of age he's talked about boxing before the frustration is not getting a fight and not being able to get fights so he's told us so this is it you know it's it's it's
Starting point is 01:47:41 it's now or never and I do I do fancy Brandon for this one let's get to the part that everybody wants to hear most No, let's get on to it. First of all, tell us how it went in Porto. How did you get on? Oh, it was great. Yeah, it was good. Honestly, beautiful city.
Starting point is 01:47:56 One of the most beautiful cities of being seen in Europe, fabulous city. First three days, I know we've English listeners listening, but God, your football crowd, they were pretty bad over there. I'm not going to lie, there was bottles being flung and some pretty rough songs being sung. If you're an Irishman, yeah. that part was a little bit frustrating because the Nations League was on over there was four countries in Porto the finals were on there
Starting point is 01:48:25 but Stag was greycrack with a, you know, not Supreme of Avery Music Festival, brilliant, you know, brilliant time. Yeah, it's looked like you went on many an adventure while you were there, to be fair. Yeah, no, we did, man, it was good. The Stag, you know, the lads were spiking
Starting point is 01:48:37 my drink with tequila and my beer, yeah, which had no impact on Noel whatsoever. No, no, no, Jesus. I was brought home on the Friday night, but you know, listen, it was great crack and I would highly recommend anyone to get over. You know, yourself and Elaine
Starting point is 01:48:51 even for, you know, a break. Me and Reggie. For three or four days. It really is a pretty city and the food was great as well. Tell us how Tinder went. That's what we all want to know. Rubbish, absolutely crap.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Why? I don't know. I really don't know. Have you been using it? I must have swiped, I'd say, a thousand people and I got about two matches. This is bullshit.
Starting point is 01:49:09 We're going to have to open up a Gmail and get people to start email and their own rules in. I actually am deleting it. It's a lot of rubbish. So you'd be open to us starting up Eurobash Gmail So maybe people can
Starting point is 01:49:20 You know We can source dates for you And I can say Well I'm actually thinking about Love Island now after I don't even saw my picture On the beach Thank you for the beach
Starting point is 01:49:27 What the hell are you watching Love Island for my friend Elaine doesn't even watch My girlfriend doesn't even watch That's actually I just think it's funny No you don't You love it is
Starting point is 01:49:34 No it's not I think the girls Some of the girls Some of the girls are pretty hot But I'm just sort of gown I just look at these lads And I go what he's down Lads
Starting point is 01:49:41 I sort of watch for a cringe factor I don't know It's a bit weird Of course former Bellator Ring Girl, something or other is in there now at the moment. She's not already doing Ireland, any, any, any, uh, any, uh,
Starting point is 01:49:50 she's from Longford, isn't she? What's her name? Mora. Mora, yeah, that's Higgins. Yeah, she was, she did the Bellator Dublin card here. Yeah. I'm not doing herself, um, not doing herself, uh, family. This is what I don't like about this.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Like, they're putting people in there and you're launching a career basically in there. So the more headlines you create, the better you're going to be when you come out of it. Like the more endorsements, the more recognisable you're going to be. So surely everyone's just in there making, show of themselves. I can't really imagine her dad's too proud
Starting point is 01:50:16 some of the things she was saying the other night. Can you give me an example? No, I don't even want to get into it. She's her, she was pretty just derogatory like.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Derogatory? Yeah. She was sexual like some just some words she was saying. Just pretty disgusting. Like not becoming of a lady should be say, Mr. Carroll, if you know what I mean.
Starting point is 01:50:35 But no, listen, great fun, stayed on for a few extra days, went to the beach, got in the Atlantic, freezing cold, on, holy shit. I mean in the sea now
Starting point is 01:50:44 quite some time. I got in. It was beautiful, though. I like the channel Mother Ocean. Refreshing. Like Diego Sanchez. Then we went up to coast a little bit.
Starting point is 01:50:51 We drove it for an hour, up to Via de Kondo. Beautiful little town. Boats and shit coming in and really, really nice, chilled out. Your friend Mossie didn't seem too happy with you making Instagram stories
Starting point is 01:51:02 with him in him. Yeah, because he was a grump. He didn't look happy. And I began to feel sorry for him as the week wore on. If you know, Anton about, he's John's brother. Must be a legend then.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Too legend. Oh, Jesus. Respect for the Elliot's. John was even giving out about him. So, yeah. John's not a man to give out about anyone. Yeah, there you go. My God, well,
Starting point is 01:51:23 siblings will be siblings. Great spot. Probably need a holiday after it, though. It's one of those ones. You just always need holidays. No, I wish. Listen, I'm sure what's life, man. That's life.
Starting point is 01:51:32 One big holiday. What's life? So what did you get me? I brought you back some beautiful alcohol from Porto. What did you get me? I brought you back my laptop in one piece. Wow. Can you believe that, guys?
Starting point is 01:51:42 Wow. just leave that awkward silence there for a second I'll get you something next one no no it's okay you didn't think about me you didn't think about it's fine it's fine I didn't have a bag to check it no that's I couldn't even ruin my dad poured that's a bono port from Super Valley and pretend it was from Puerto
Starting point is 01:51:57 don't worry about it that's very hurtful all the way from Japan he hasn't even drank it yet disgusting um I went for a walk in the park today with Reggie and there's army all over Heart Sound Park guards everywhere what do you do that's what I was thinking but yeah wow blanche everyone's getting stabbed
Starting point is 01:52:17 started out lads any gang members listen to this please stop stabbing each other it's not cool Jesus Christ man it's terrible I sometimes think it is just an Irish thing like I don't know man Lad's getting fucking stabbed man there's something like foreign in the last week in
Starting point is 01:52:35 I just think in Ireland the UK we're just a bit I don't know like other cities got like poor I didn't see anything happen, but. Yeah. Even in Stockholm, that's like, even if people look threatening, they aren't doing shit to you.
Starting point is 01:52:47 Like, they aren't actually gonna do anything. But in Ireland, it's like, someone's looking Trenton, probably gonna do something. And all the scary people in Porto were out of England shirts on, so when he was bad. There was bottles going over in my head.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Yeah. Let's, I get worried about this kind of stuff. Obviously, I have a niece grown up in the area. Yeah, it's bad, man. All that stuff, it's... I'm one down the road a few weeks ago here in Churchtown, you know? It's just crazy, man.
Starting point is 01:53:09 It's just, like, I just think it's because the country's in shite. Everyone starts acting like shit, like it's just the way it is, unfortunately. But, um... Increase the peace. Increase the peace, my loves. Great to have you back.
Starting point is 01:53:21 I feel safer in Ireland because you're home, Noel. Is there any chance that you could grow your mustache back now that you've had such... Oh, the really big beer till like two days ago. But you had horrendous look on Tinder. Is it a time to maybe bring back the stash. No, it's time to delete Tinder. Ariel Hawani has asked for it to come back. Abby from M.
Starting point is 01:53:39 I think Ariel would look over to touch. I think he's probably rocked it at some now he's always had the beard I guess in it yeah little bit bone fluff he's got a solid beard does he? Yeah he's got a solid beard
Starting point is 01:53:50 He's got a good hair line too I could do it one of that I'm actually about shaving my head You used to have that Yeah I used to do it the whole time When you were in your former Gloria As a rugby player I saw you When you were the tallest player in your team
Starting point is 01:54:01 I think I might do it again I'm just getting fed up of having hair What about a face tattoo? Yeah I think I might get to might tie someone next Yeah something like that Or maybe a Celtic inspired one Look tough. Look tough and then try and getting Sky News.
Starting point is 01:54:16 That's it. Spitting a few people. And everyone's talking about you. Pauli Monaggy. But there we are. The gruesome twosome are back. We're very tired. We've...
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