MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 41 (w/ Brendan Loughnane, Nicolas Dalby, Graham Boylan)

Episode Date: June 25, 2019

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Brendan Loughnane (10:00) gave his thoughts on not receiving a contract on the back of his dominant win on Dana White's Tuesday Night Contender Series, Nicolas Dalby... (56:00) discussed his road back to the Cage Warriors title and Graham Boylan (1:31:00) shed light on one of his promotion's most ambitious card to date, Cage Warriors 106: Night of Champions. Peter Carroll and Niall McGrath look at the latest headlines in European MMA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:56 There was a lot of fights and a lot of mess-ups this weekend. And, yeah, we're going to bring it to you. Live and uncut, like the Bhutan clan. Well, first, let's have a look at those headlines. Well, Noel McGrath, I should say hello to you first. It's very rude. Very rude of me. I'm sorry.
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Starting point is 00:02:29 Roy, here we go. Headlines. Haffael Avato De Thrones, Gagard Massassi in the main event of Bellator London. Quite a shocking result there. We have Artem Loboff defeats Polly Malinagi in the main event of Bare Knuckle FC6. Molly McCann comes away with the European Championship of the world. She fought Ariane Lipski, the former KSW champion. Molly, of course, the K-Jrars champion.
Starting point is 00:02:50 We were very big on that fight and it was awesome. We'll talk about that more later. Bellator Dublin has been announced for September 20, we can see some fights being made off the back of that Belator London card already but Valentina Shevchenco He was mas making. Huh? Valentina Shevchenko
Starting point is 00:03:08 and Alexei Conchecoe V Loreno Starpoli have been booked for UFC Uruguay on August 10th and John Phillips is out of his UFC Sacramento fight with Carl Robertson. He'll be replaced by Newcomer Wellington Tourman. I didn't actually hear that one. The last one. That's disappointing for John. Yeah, I only saw it there.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Elirmei Cruz, of course, all over it. He is all over that shit. But, yeah, I guess we'll start on our first rant of the week. Last Tuesday, we thought Brendan Lachnain had secured his place in the UFC with a fantastic performance against Bill Algeo. But alas, a takedown attempt, you know, a legitimate technique in MMA has cost him the UFC contract somehow. Now, I think a lot of people saw me getting upset about this already.
Starting point is 00:03:55 so I'm just going to pass it over to you. How did you feel about that? Yeah, I think a good few people saw on my posts on Twitter as well. Tuesday night, absolutely fuming at the whole situation. For a guy to get to this point, to build everything back up, turn down other five promotions contracts. And to get that spiel of shite from Dana White at the end, I think was very condescending, first of all, from Dana White.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Oh, you hated the whole setup. Let's bring this guy out and let him sit here. Well, I tell him how he should have fought. Come on, mate. Yeah. And the fact of the matter is, the fight beforehand, in which Mr Soriano got the win, two rounds. Was that not the heavyweight fight first?
Starting point is 00:04:37 It was a heavyweight, the leg kick finished. Then it was Brennan. And then there was two more. The fight after him. Sorry, after Brennan. It was two fights after. Sorry, it was the main event. Soriano and Pickett was the fight.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Soriano did pretty well for the first couple of rounds, third round, took the guy down, laid on him for the duration of the duration of the the fight did little or nothing and he gets a contract um all right dana what are you talking about here what is the criteria here is there new rules that we don't know someone tried saying to me online and obviously a lot of your action online was very positive in favor of brendan as it should have been and someone said to me that i don't understand the concept of the show i think you're wrong i got a few with them as well i think you're very very wrong um are we not trying to find the best fighters yes is that not the whole that is the bottom are we doing sport here still are we doing like
Starting point is 00:05:25 And even if we aren't doing sport, if we're doing entertainment, here's the go with the most traction than we've ever seen on that show going in. So where is the, like a takedown? Come on. Oh, it's pathetic. I saw plenty of takedowns in the other fights. They got contracts. It was a fight. The heavyweight guy did not have me just leg kick the life.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I listen to the, we obviously speaking with Brennan later on. You are and I listen to that. And he goes, I wanted to make a point in my wrestling. And he did. That's what I said as well. Like, I mean, for years, as soon as a guy from the UK or Ireland or anywhere around here goes to UFC, what do they all say? he can't wrestle. He's never fought a wrestler like me. What did he just do there?
Starting point is 00:06:00 Exactly. You know, you're looking for the best fighters here. Bill Algeo was a... Grey fighter. A really solid fighter. You saw that, you know, he's number, I think, 11 ranked featherweight in the United States of America. Really? Yeah. Holy shit. The guy is really, really talented. You know, I was texting Paul Felder on and off beforehand.
Starting point is 00:06:17 He was obviously on Com's. Paul, he was in Paul's number one pick of getting signed. I think everyone else's on the power rankings. Jose Young's was there that night, and he was, saying Paul, Paul Veller was like 100% before the contracts came out. He was like, well, he's number one, 100%. Yeah, 100%. I'm texting Paul that day and he goes, you know, Al Jio's legit. And I was saying, you know, Brennan's a very good fighter. I've seen Bill as well. I watched a few of his fights actually on Tuesday before it. And I was just gone, like, this is a fight. You look at on the card, probably two of the best. Why isn't the headline, first of all?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Exactly. Ridiculous. I think we know why. But anyway, two guys you look at and you go, this guy is getting signed if he wins the fight. That was it for me. Because you knew. it was going to be a high level fight. It was a high level fight. It was a cut, 10 cuts above the three-year-a-fights we saw on that card in terms of a contest. Even, even if you want to go take, like, I mean, if we're just basing this, forget about the opponent. Forget about how good Bill Aljo is for a second. Just based on what you saw one fighter do out there, who's the most impressive? It's Brendan. It's running all day long. Hands down. Out of all eight fighters, Brendan was a cut above anyone else on that card for me.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And for the UFC not to sign. I mean, I asked Brendan this before. I put up a little tweet about an audiogram. Was there? you know, prior issues the UFC. He doesn't know. He doesn't think. But that's what it's starting to look like. It does. I don't think, I really don't think there is actually an issue there with Brendan, you know? But you look at Dana's face, like he's there all smiles last tense. It's like he's looking for a way out or something. And the reaction that, when they did it, you know, they flashed back to him on the computer and he's like, oh, I can't believe he just did that.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And you're like, what are you talking about? Have you watched two fucking two and a half rounds of this? What are you on, man? It just makes no sense. It's sort of looking to me like this is maybe they're getting these guys in for a fight, just giving them the five and five. And they, and they, they, already of their mind made up beforehand. I'll tell you one thing. Is that a possibility, though? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I don't know. I guess everything's a possibility. It looked like that last Tuesday night that, you know, his mind was made up beforehand. One thing, we'll get to the Brendan interview now in a minute, but one thing I've got to say, if you're involved with any other promotion, and you aren't trying to get onto this dude and trying to sign them, you are, like, you look like the savior if you sign this going now. You look like you are the person who's doing the sensible thing as opposed to the UFC who are doing the nonsensical. Well, the good thing now I think maybe Brendan can take from this is the online traction. You know, everyone's been talking about it in the world of mixed martial arts, literally across the board, all the top media outlets.
Starting point is 00:08:40 You would have beautifully put description of the events of the last six to seven years for Ben and Lottnana. It was perfectly put. I couldn't have put any better myself. I was in a fuming rage last Wednesday when you did it, because I just felt so sorry for Brennan. And listen, we follow Brendan over the last morning. We know how good Brendan is. And to see him to have that opportunity taken away after all that work,
Starting point is 00:09:03 we defend any fighter in that situation. We're not being biased. He was by clearly the best fighter on the card. They have a lot of guys now in the UFC from the UK, great fighters. You know, Jack Shore has just been signed. You've got Arnold Allen, you have Darren Thiel, you have Leon Edwards, they have all these guys. But you've also lost a lot of guys.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Jimmy Manoa, Ross Pearson, Michael Bisping not so long ago. Stastiff, if you're talking about a large European market. Yes, you need a guy who obviously reverberates with the fan base. He's proven that in the lead up to this fight. When March comes around, if Brendan Lachnan isn't on that card, they're going to regret it. I can remember interviewing Brendan the day before UFC Manchester
Starting point is 00:09:41 when Bisping fought, Anderson. I went down to Stockport to talk to him. And even then, we were laughing going, like, what do you have to do? But to actually go through this and have to sit him out there front of everyone and you tell them that a takedowns cost them that it's just it's sick it's gross you know you know that's like it was the low of the low for me I'm gonna say this I got a few text off UFC you know brass people that are you the regular fan would see every week and they were actually disgusted that he wasn't signed well it's not it's not the person you think it would be um it was
Starting point is 00:10:12 actually someone else but anyway I won't get into that but another thing I will say you taught about traction and things like that who else in the fucking UFC is getting Jesse Lingard and Marcus Rashford. Toyson Fury, forget about that after the biggest, like a huge win the week before. So I'm saying, this is a guy who's linked on a Tuesday night. Yeah, this is a guy who's link to Barcelona
Starting point is 00:10:28 and getting 350 grand a week. We're all linked to Barcelona. The traction alone. Like, yeah, no huge. It's going to get off that. It's just fucking mad. It's absolutely insane. Dana White, Sean, Shelby,
Starting point is 00:10:38 Maynard, shame on yourself. Ian Dean should be the new matchmaker. Sort of shit out, lads. Ridicest. Absolutely crazy. Well, let's get to it. That's rant one down. We knocked it out.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I'm only getting the fire in my belly now, man. We just have to edit that. it will, well, that's the other half an hour we're going to go on for this afterwards. But great to speak to Brendan. Obviously, very, you know, I felt he was a bit disheartened when I was speaking to him.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I felt like he didn't need to do this interview today. He's doing lots of interviews, but fair play to him. We always appreciate him. And look, as I said to him at the end of this interview, we're all pulling for him. We all want to see him get a big contract. It's up to the fans as well to keep knocking on the door as well,
Starting point is 00:11:13 Pee-Solutely, absolutely. And I know they will. They've been brilliant with Brendan. And look, we'll be back in about 10 minutes. and now finally we are joined by one of the most talked about fighters in Europe at the moment a man who I feel should have earned a UFC contract last Tuesday and I think you all know who I'm talking about it's Mr Brendan Lachnain
Starting point is 00:11:32 Brendan thanks so much for joining us man how are you first of all yeah not a problem just got back from America and yeah just catching up on sleep and other things but yeah it's been an emotional week to say the least yeah I can imagine I can imagine I mean, I guess we should do this in order of events. I think that's probably the best way to do it.
Starting point is 00:11:52 We had talked to you. We know how much this means you. This was a six-year road back to the UFC, a road in which I feel you've proven your caliber on several occasions, proven that you're worthy of that contract. You go in and you have a very dominant performance against Bill Algeo and Dana White's shoes. I know you contender series.
Starting point is 00:12:10 You know, when you have your hand raised in the middle of the Octagon that night, how do you feel like that has to be enough or where is your mindset at that point? Well, two things. One, I actually, you know, I'm a very self-critical person. I wanted to not be allowed you out, especially in the third round. So that was my main concern was doing that. So I wasn't happy I didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Then I never know how I've actually done in a fight. So I'm like, hmm, I wonder if I did enough or whatever. But then I come out, I asked Dominic Cruz and then they said, like, what do you think? And then Dom's like, come on, man, easily. And I'm like, yeah, but fuck, I should have knocked him out? I mean, I was just mad at myself, I'm not doing that, and take it out of everyone's hands. But, so it didn't, so then it was like,
Starting point is 00:12:54 I watched a few of the highlights back in that back room. I was out, fuck, I beat him up. And then... Yes, you did. And then to not get it, and then to watch them other guys, guys fighting people at a free in hell, and low kicking him,
Starting point is 00:13:10 and then getting one, and then that last fight with that guy who was swinging, and then I was just thought, there's an over real calib. run there to mine so just sort yeah we definitely got it but then I was when we didn't it was like fucking how what else do you have to do it must be a nervy situation Brendan like when you finish your fight do you go backstage and then you're watching the last two fights is that how it plays out yeah no yeah well no you walk into that green room thing and then you do your interview and then
Starting point is 00:13:37 while your interviews on you're watching highlights back of your own fight um I remember that yeah that's right yeah that was very good yeah so she's asking your questions at the same time, but then, yeah, obviously, you go on. You don't have to even watch the other fights. You get told to go put in a back room when the last fight's on, so you get to watch it, and then you obviously get your decision. Right, right, right. And just the way they do that, they obviously wheel you guys out.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I could see your hand was in your phone, and I was wondering, I was like, can he see everybody saying, like, he's definitely done it, we're just waiting to get it, to make it official at this point? I mean, were you able to look at the online traction you were getting, before Dana White came out and announced who was getting signed? No, all you can see is the actual show that's on, you couldn't tell what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Right, right, right. Like, you know, he comes out eventually, obviously, and then he says the words that we all didn't want to hear, but, you know, he kind of says that takedown has cost you the fight that you landed on Algeo towards the end of it. I mean, what's that like? I mean, you've got cameras on you, you're sitting right there, and this is the guy that, you know, you felt you'd done enough for us,
Starting point is 00:14:46 telling you a takedown, which is obviously a very useful piece of technique in MMA, has cost you this contract. I mean, I'm just trying to put myself in your shoes during that situation. What was that like? Well, on the pre-fight stuff, I said, I'm going to show in this fight that Englishmen can wrestle because we've been known to not be able to wrestle. Yeah, 100%. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So that was kind of like, I'm going to show that I can, especially against a guy that I'm saying was a good graphic winner. So I wanted to verify my attacks, and I also wanted to show my diversity in their attacks. So that's what I was doing. And the game plan leading up to this fight was to mix up the striking and take down to beat this guy, but I had to do, because he was good everywhere too.
Starting point is 00:15:33 So then I just stuck to the game plan, and the whole could hear from my corner was get a takedown, secure it in the last 30 seconds. So I did, and then obviously it eventually cost me a contract. Is that hard to believe when you hear it, though? I mean, what's your reaction as you're hearing that? Yeah, when you say it back, it sounds absolutely fucking mind-law. I agree.
Starting point is 00:15:56 What do you do? Did you see the outrage online afterwards? I mean, does that kind of console you at all that so many people who are living at this, including me? You know, a lot of journalists where, and I'm not just talking about in Europe, I saw my good friend Ariel O'Anne talking about it. I know you're due on his show today as well. I mean, everybody seemed to unanimously agree, agree that you had done enough here,
Starting point is 00:16:20 and you were by far the best fighter on display. Like, I mean, was that nice to see at least, given that what you came for didn't come to fruition? Yeah, 100%. I mean, yours was crazy. You hit the nail on the head crazy, especially like when you went through the record of the opponent and said fought. And all that was like, wow, you even said more than I even knew, really. Thank you. I appreciate it. I've seen aerials.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I've seen Luke Thomas. I've seen all these guys and I was like, shit, these are guys that I've looked up to for years, never been able to
Starting point is 00:16:49 to get on their shows. Yeah. So it was good. It was good out of, yeah, it was really nice and it still is, to be fair,
Starting point is 00:16:55 and it's humbling. Are you, are you, like, where are you with it now? As I said, on my rant about this, like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:17:02 you had offers all over the place and this is the road you chose because this is, that you want to be competing with the best guys in the world. I'm sure your phone's been blowing up, you don't have to go into detail,
Starting point is 00:17:14 about that but where are you now are you are you annoyed about this are you are you still are you pissed off or or is this a good thing in the long room because it's probably opened up a lot of options for you no i mean i'm still in it's still in a weird spot not decided what the next move is still know where i'm going to go from here like i say i'm having a bit of time off now and then so whatever comes up next you're going to have to be very worth my while because it was a long time to get to that point so whatever's next has to be very very worth it to be honest is there an ideal outcome here for you? I mean, like, if they come back and they
Starting point is 00:17:48 say, look, we want you to go back on Dana White's Tuesday Night Contender Series, is that something you would welcome at this point, or how do you feel about that? Like I said, still not decided that. If they came back with that, I'd have to really think about it, to be honest. Wow, well. And I mean, the damage
Starting point is 00:18:06 you took, Brandon, man, like, you put up that post of, like, you're pissing blood back there straight after the fight, you took damage to the face. This was a very high. level fight. That's what I keep on trying to highlight the people. This fight was already worthy of the UFC and for you to have such a one-sided
Starting point is 00:18:22 performance and to see that damage does that make it, does that make a harder for you to, you know, to acknowledge this decision like considering the toll that's taken on you physically? Yeah, well like I was saying, that was a UFC fight and I said, if you want to
Starting point is 00:18:38 give me someone that's free and all, I'll show you this killer instinct that you're talking about. But you went in there and give me a a champion from another organization. If you want to see that level fight, that's sometimes going to be the outcome. And I'm willing to accept that, but at least accept that you've given me a tougher opponent.
Starting point is 00:18:56 So, I mean, this killer instinct that you're talking about. I'll happily do that if you want to give me an inexperienced guy like the other guys were 5 and 0, 3 and old. You want to give me one of them, no problem. But don't give me a champion and then it expects, you know, for this killer instinct that you're talking about. Did those guys say anything to you after that point? I mean, no, like they were obviously probably celebrating their own getting those contracts,
Starting point is 00:19:18 but did you get to speak to the other two guys that were signed? Did they say anything to you in terms of, you know, you should have got the contract that night or anything like that? No, I sat next to the bigger fellow. I can't remember his name. The heavy way. The heavy way. You got that knockout, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah, and he was sound. He was, because we all got to watch my highlights, and he was just like, fuck, you know, watching my highlights rather than it is. And then he was like, yeah, you've got one man for sure and all that. And then obviously when we didn't was like, wow. But he was just so happy that he got his own. Obviously that took, that took premise. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And I mean, is, like, do you regret at all, like, going down this path, like, you know, turning down options? Like, is there any prior to you that was like, what was that all for because of this situation? Or is the UFC still your goal, basically, is what I'm trying to understand? No, there's no regrets for taking it. You know, took my opportunity when it came, went there and did exactly what I could do.
Starting point is 00:20:14 do but I still like I say I still don't know what the future is right now what I'm going to do and just taking some time off because it was a very very difficult camp as well and then I put a lot into that so like I say I've got a lot of scars to heal up and before I get back in the gym and then make a decision on where we'll go did you sneeze in Dinaway's cappuccino or anything before this fight did you do anything to Sean Shelby's cornflakes we're just trying to understand it like a bit, it must feel like that. Like after this journey you've gone on just to get back,
Starting point is 00:20:47 the fact that you didn't get a second chance the first time, the Duke and Watt fight, the Pahili fight. Now here on Dana-Oweid's Tuesdays in the night contender series, does it nearly feel like these guys have a vendetta against you at this stage? It's just that is... I know you have to be careful with what you say now, right, as well.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Let's be honest, because you've got all these options in front of you, right? When you're like, when you've been as rented highly as I have, for as long as I have. And then you watch guys that I rank 6, 7, 10, 10, 15, all I get signed. And you're like, what's going on it?
Starting point is 00:21:20 And then they finally give you a chance. And you're going to put on a performance line. You're just like, right, well, what the fuck do I do now? Yeah. Did Dom talk to you afterwards? Was he blown away by this as well? I'm sure he was. He was pretty mad to, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:21:34 So, like I said, you can have a friend like Dominic Cruz that can get you in. So who knows what you can do? So I got a racket and that shit's probably sailed now. Roy. Well, when do you want to get back in there, Brennan? Like, is it hard to kind of think about when you want to fight again? Because there's so many intangibles at play at the moment, like you have an ideal time you'd like to compete again? Yeah, like I say, to get me back up in the morning
Starting point is 00:21:59 and to be able to perform like that and this sport is going to have to be something really, really worthwhile for me now. To get in there again, have to be good money. Oh, it's not even worth doing to me anymore at this stage. Wow, it's at that point. Like, I mean, are you, is that where you're at the moment? Like, it's, it's, you're, you're contemplating your future at this time? Yeah, I mean, I'm getting old now, I'm 29, and I want to have a family.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I want to do other stuff. And like I say, I think they're going to have to get me out of bed for this one. Wow, well, like, I felt as though, like, every other promotion should have been jumping all over this. You know, the traction you got all of this kind of stuff. I mean, is there any way that this was a good thing for your career? I know that's probably very stupid thing to ask you right now, but just in terms of the amount of online traction you have, everybody's talking about you,
Starting point is 00:22:48 I feel like more than ever, you're an international name. Like, have you kind of seen signs in terms of other promotions and stuff that this has made you a bigger commodity internationally? Oh yeah, 100%. My name's never been as big. People didn't know it was before this fight.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I certainly do. So that helped a lot. And there has been offers. And like I can say, I'm going to take a few more days. Have a look at him. See there's one that's worth while and then go with that. That's probably the plan from now.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Well, it's just, you caught me off guard with the kind of, you know, you don't know if, if, like, I mean, is this. Like, this could have been your last void is what you're saying. Sorry, I keep, I know, I've asked you this question about three different times. It's just, it's just, I'm at a stage now where I've done a lot of stuff. I had three things I ever wanted to do in fighting, three things I had won. I wanted to fight in the UFC. to do that. I wanted to headline in me in the arena. I did that. I thought in Las Vegas. I did that now. And that's like, right, what's next? And I have to really think about that and see.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And that's where I'm at with it. But there just seems like there's so much left base on that performance. It was excellent. It seems like, I know I can understand where we're having this conversation, but I think anybody who saw that fight will be going, how can this guy be talking about retirement? He looked unbelievable, you know? Yeah, no, it's not, it's not, it's not, I'm not seen retirement as the end. I'm not seeing retirement was the option. I'm just saying right now I need to have a thing. It's a motivation thing. For example, I got five and five for that show. Come out with probably six grand spent on camp and all that. So in the end, I'm out of pocket again and it's like,
Starting point is 00:24:25 what am I doing? You know what I mean? You need something to motivate you need something to motivate your head this one. Why am I getting, why am I pissing blood and breaking my nose and for, and I'm spending the money to do that? And it's like, what stage am I really at now if I'm not put the time into this to make that money and stuff? stuff. So that's my primary concern now over anything else. So that's all I'm saying, really. I can understand. I understand. And is your nose okay? Like, I mean, do you said it was broken there? Is it, do you know how long that's going to be healing for us?
Starting point is 00:24:53 You know, it's not the first time, is it? Yeah, the nose is fine. Good, good. Well, look, Brendan, I think it would be an awful shame if we don't get to see you for it again. I think all the promotions to try to break the bank to get you in, you absolutely deserve it. You've proven it time and time again. you should have got a UFC contract here a night. I'm very sorry that didn't happen but know that the whole of
Starting point is 00:25:15 European MMA are wishing you well and hoping that you get something sorted very soon. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Thanks so much, Brendan, man. All the best. Thanks, bud. Take care of work. Bye, boy. Well, we are back and we have finally talked about the disaster
Starting point is 00:25:34 that was, Brandon, Lachnan, and thank you to Brendan for getting on and speaking to us. The disaster, but it was Brendan Lachnan. That's something to say, like Brendan's a disaster. I meant the disaster was the decision. I know, I'm sorry, Brendan. I'm inventing my true feelings now. Just one, one at Derry.
Starting point is 00:25:49 I was nearly well on up, listen to that because, you know, obviously what he says there, he's reconsidering his career. And listen, I think when you work that hard, you know, hopefully as I think I tweeted out today after on Wednesday was, you know, the UFC will take a few days, you know, look at this again and go, like, we've made a legitimate mistake here. So I would love to see that happen. seat to own up and go
Starting point is 00:26:13 and bloody give the guy a contract because he deserves this. And Brennan, don't retire. I guarantee you keep knocking on the door, it's going to come down, I will. Yeah, I felt like I needed to clarify the whole, because I was going down that road and I don't think he was, but, you know, he doesn't seem like, I mean, I hope this guy has a lot of options on the table. That's all I'll say about it.
Starting point is 00:26:30 You know, we have a lot to talk about this week. It's Cage Warriors 100 this week. It's one of the most in anticipating that card, more than anything, I think, this summer, because of the amount, the titles are up for grabs, but before we can get onto that, we need to talk about Bellator, London. And that wasn't without incident either. Um, you know, look, there was some great fights on there, uh, but it's
Starting point is 00:26:53 let's start from the start. Let's start from the start. The app didn't work at the beginning. Yeah. I really. All right. So Franz Malambo, uh, had a fantastic debut, a big win over Nathan Gray's who I think is a brilliant fighter as well, Nathan. Um, to get a win, that's missed by everybody. They do put that up online so people can watch it, but in the, moment we're not seeing it. Before Charlie Ward comes out to get a great comeback win, the app goes dark. The prelims are gone. Charlie's
Starting point is 00:27:19 fight's gone. Mike Schippen V. Van Stenis has gone, which was one of the best performances in a night from Kostlow Vansthenas. Fabian Edwards v. Besoku has gone. And Keyholes V. Teryl. We got bonus footage. Yeah, well, it's ridiculous. The last three seconds are around. Right. This is the problem.
Starting point is 00:27:37 You you need to be building guys like Fabian Edwards when you are in the UK all right this guy is is prime time TV you know
Starting point is 00:27:47 another thing that they missed because of this is the shipment fight with Van Steenis that should have been the fight Vantzine's v Fabian is the fight Fabian calls for afterwards
Starting point is 00:27:58 that should have been the fight that every single person at home was calling for after this fight but we didn't get to see Van Steenis win in the time at the moment didn't get to see it and it was huge
Starting point is 00:28:07 it was really impressive but I got to see a true red cast via Paul Redmond. Deadly. I saw that. But it's, you're shooting yourself in the foot
Starting point is 00:28:15 when you do things like that. I mean, everybody was already complaining about where Fabian was on the card and the fact that now his next fight isn't even being, kind of people aren't anticipating that already because of the fact that Costello
Starting point is 00:28:27 wasn't on TV. I mean, come on guys. Like, I mean, we don't want to be giving about this stuff every week. It's just, it's torsion for me. It's punishing, man. It's talking about this, but we have to talk about it
Starting point is 00:28:38 because it's actually regressing if anything. People are trying to tell me these are going to compete with the UFC over here. No, they're not. You're a million miles. You can't even get the fights on, like anywhere. Just get, like we need to be able to see the fights. Listen, I watched, you know, I came in after work, on Saturday evening. I actually watched, did the same as yourself, put on the prelims in my phone and work, then got a blackout, had them there beside me, there's been some of 10 other TVs on and work, keeping an eye on that, got home in the evening. come back in, turn on the app again, black out again,
Starting point is 00:29:13 go to YouTube, see, they made one good decision, they put Malambo's fight up against Grayson on YouTube. I watched that. I went on and tried to chew Channel 5 in, manually on Sky. It went to Channel 5 Spike. I thought that was fucking it. So then I went back out,
Starting point is 00:29:32 had UFC 5 pass on with Molly on, and then I had Sky Sports on the TV. Then we saw the end of the... Fabian Edwards fight oh bonus footage here with Mike Goldberg then had to change back over
Starting point is 00:29:44 and I was just going like why am I doing this when does UFC Greenville on it's easy access I can switch it on there so I turned that on I realized that I had tuned in the wrong channel
Starting point is 00:29:57 the wrong channel I was like fuck this I'm not going fucking find it again I was just like my I actually feel it now again that shivering anger rage feeling
Starting point is 00:30:08 but you're usually so calm that's I know it's strange It's mad, isn't it? But I got so pissed off, I went, fuck this after James's fight and Paul Daly's fight. Two really good fights, but I heard, sorry, the second fight was a really good fight. So I said, I couldn't be RISP's anymore. So what I did, turned on UFC Greenville after the prelims ended on my MacBook.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And I ended up, fuck it. I streamed Gagard-Mussi, you know, illegally because it was way, way easier to do it than to go having a big mission. Can I just say, like this is... So that is five different platforms. to watch one fucking fight card. Seriously, lads? Shit, or just go. Yeah, it's not good enough.
Starting point is 00:30:45 But I will say, just for those who are listening now who don't think the fights are available, you can watch them all on the app now as far as I'm concerned. And good that they did something that they can see the fights. It happens the whole time, though.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Yeah, but it's literally every fight card now and to not put the light on Fabian is a joke. But let's move it on. Look, here's another thing. Do you think Sky Sports are happy with this situation? Can't be. Like, I mean, the fact that they had that emergency footage,
Starting point is 00:31:09 kind of their broadcast is beginning on this and they're like, what are we doing? You said I couldn't get this right, now we're getting it. They're actually quite close to running over time as well. They wouldn't have been happy. Sky would be pretty, oh yeah, you'd imagine. Religious on their timings. Professionals, you know. But, um,
Starting point is 00:31:25 Haphael Lavato surprised me a lot with that win over Gayette, Lassey. It was, um, of course he was on Eurobatch, we should have known he was going to win, but, um, you know, I didn't think he was going to be able to implement the game plan that he did. It was actually really, really impressive. And, um, after the first two rounds, I was like he's been grappling for 10 minutes, he's going to be bologues.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Exactly what I thought. He's done here. But he came back in the fifth then and did great again. It was like... It was like... It was like, yeah, he took a round. But did you ever hear of D.C.? D.C. talking about that with Khabib.
Starting point is 00:31:53 He's always like, you can grab for two rounds, then he's going to have to take it easy and he's going to have to come back and do it again. Yeah, I think that's what he did against McGregor. Yeah. It was noticeable in the third round. But yeah, Leavado, I thought he was done off of the second round, same as yourself, and served a bit of energy
Starting point is 00:32:05 and came out and won that out of, won the fifth round and it was a phenomenal performance and we were very very sort of suspect last week we thought it would pan out a lot like the Rory MacDonald fight and naming Gracie
Starting point is 00:32:16 just because of the styles and the way you know Gaygard is obviously really good on his feet as well good grappler good in the ground good everywhere but I felt again though like all great respect
Starting point is 00:32:26 to Lovato for winning the fight excellent performance there was something missing with Gaggard there again and I think maybe this seems to happen with Gaggart the motivation thing where you know was he really really up for it
Starting point is 00:32:36 going if that did he think he, did he think he was going to get the win? I don't know, but I did, I did notice, like, he spoke to Damon, Damon Martin on M. M.A. fighting ahead of it, and he, he spoke a few times at the press conference about it as well. He just seemed flat. Everything he was talking about was about, I want to get paid more money. That's always being, Gaggart. No, Gagard has always been at that.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. Like, I do want them to get more money. That's great. But I just didn't feel like, like, when we spoke to Lovato, you could tell that he had been absolutely religiously studying Gagard, Massassie, all this stuff. like, Gaygard's had about 80 fights. Like, I mean, is there, does it come to a stage where like, I'm like, you know, I'm confident what I know.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And I'm going to go in here and get the job. Don't look at this guy's experience compared to my experience. You know, like, was it just one of those fights that he didn't expect to have such an ordeal with? But no, I don't think it was. I think Gaygard is one of those guys that takes his eye off the prize. Sometimes we've seen it happen in the UFC. We saw against Eurya Hall. You know, the first time won the rematch.
Starting point is 00:33:29 We saw it multiple other times where he just goes out some nights and he looks a little bit flat. and I generally think it was. I think if there was a rematch there, maybe Gayguard could win it. And I think they have to do the immediate rematch. I think so, yeah. You know, five rounds. It was closed contests.
Starting point is 00:33:43 But I will say, like, I mean, the difference I found with Lovato compared to, say, Gracie against McDonald was, it wasn't as if Lovato was never in a situation where Gracie was where he was like, please come on the ground with me. He was forcing the issue. He was no one chasing it down.
Starting point is 00:33:59 He'd get him against the fence and he'd immediately look for his back. He was constantly, like, solve this. problem Gagard solved this problem and I don't think Naman ever kind of managed to do that against Rory apart from like that heel hook attempt or something he did I thought it was maybe the mindset was similar to Rory from Gagard did he ever really look like he had that killer instinct on the feet not to me and it was surprising yeah I think this size as well like Jesus Lovato's a unit man Jesus Christ is huge but a huge listen phenomenal performance let's take nothing away from
Starting point is 00:34:28 yeah mr. Lovato that's that's a phenomenal thing to do to come in you know after what 10 pro fights and win the Bellator Middleweight World title. Against Guy Casas. Yeah. It's crazy. But Melvin Manoff v. Ken Kaplan and was a good fight.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I mean, there was lots of knockdowns, lots of... Didn't watch it, to be honest. Yeah, it was it. Lots of knockdown stuff like that. Melvin got the nod. Kent,
Starting point is 00:34:48 well, Kent, ran him close. You know, he knocked him down in the first round himself, but then Melvin before the round ended, I think he had him down. It was fairly ding-dong stuff. Aaron Chalmers, like,
Starting point is 00:34:57 even if he wins in the cage, he can't win. You know, like, he's... I saw the abuse, Oh, it's just, it's relentless. Fair play to him. Yeah, he got back there and he did it. Like, I mean, it's, I don't really look.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I mean, I think you're going to see this notable drop off in skill set, like, for Aaron fights because Aaron's only new in his career, you know what I mean? And I think it makes it stand out, though, when you're framed by Paul Daly and them, and who was a man off then and Kent in the other fight. Like, I mean, that's just a different level of fight. Has the traction, the fan traction dropped off a little bit from Aaron Charmers? I feel it maybe those has this week. beforehand but then I felt it kind of came back at the weekend a bit. But maybe you're right.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Like I felt like the last, you know, Aaron, Aaron isn't the type of guy like... Should they be smothering them cards with big names like they did, no? And what do you mean? You know, there was a lot of, you know, Paul Daly. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought that was all good. But when you're, you're getting in Manoff instead of putting, like, one of the guys you're trying to build, you know, like, that was a spot for Fabian or Shipman Van Steenus. Like, I mean, I know Fabian's performance wasn't his most spectacular, but you know you have to get this guy up for this like you're going to be on sky sports tonight me you know what I mean like it's I I wouldn't be surprised if someone told Fabian that he wasn't
Starting point is 00:36:07 going to be on TV seconds before that fight to be honest and it had an impact like like I'm not that he not that I think he fought badly I did I don't I just think he was very conservative you know like because he could see from the the word go that John and Basakou could could bang and they both they both mixed it up early on I think he was kind of thinking well why do I have to go here and sacrifice this situation I mean to give this other guy to show exactly you have to performances like that to develop as well. It shows a maturity.
Starting point is 00:36:31 It does, yeah, it does definitely, 100% agree. Yeah, it was a big card. I don't have it in front of me here. I was going to go back through
Starting point is 00:36:37 what else we have on it. James and Labiano. Oh, yes, James. Like, straight after the fight, that was a shocking revelation, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:44 and fair play to him for getting out there and doing it. Like, I always say to him, and I have done since he's a very young guy, I always say to him, how do you deal with this? Because I would have crumbled
Starting point is 00:36:54 many times when I was his age under this kind of stress, and this, that kind of situation. So it doesn't surprise me to hear it. I'm surprised to hear him speaks out candy about. I think that's a great thing. He was physically had to be removed from the facility in SBG Concord because of the panic attacks.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah. Thrown up, that's serious, man. I used to suffer a panic attacks and believe me, man. Holy God, nothing more frightening in your life than having panic attacks. It's a horrible, horrible feeling. And literally the minute I saw it went, boom, I'm out writing a little piece and this, get this out there. It was very mature for him to come out and say that. Yeah, it's great for him to be.
Starting point is 00:37:28 open about that. And I'll tell you one thing, usually the same way as you'll see with, you know, polarising figures like James, like straight away, people are going, oh, what, but Jeremy Labano's no slouch, like, you know, he's not, like, he absolutely isn't. He's a black belt and jihitsu. Look what James did. That takedown, he gets off the fence. He does the same thing every fight, but he's so good at it. The second round was more. Oh, yeah, Labiano came back into it. The second round was more sort of defining for me of what got a-her is about, when he's on the deck, how well he wrote out that round with a guy like Labiano on top of him.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Very, very impressive from James that second. He obviously lost a round, but then came back in the third. Wasn't the most exposed fight in the world. But when you have problems like that two weeks before a fight, and you're fighting the most experienced person you've ever fought? And to get in there and show those balls after having all those issues to go out and get a win,
Starting point is 00:38:18 you'll take it at any cost and he did a fair plate to the young lad. Big old pair of Straban balls on him. Straban balls. Straban balls. Straband balls. Yeah, indeed. Oliver Enkamp got off to a win that was in the post limb
Starting point is 00:38:31 their thing now Yeah post limbs But I mean Costlo van Stainis man Have you seen that yet? No I haven't seen it's unbelievable Like I mean He creased Mike Shipman
Starting point is 00:38:43 Like Shipman's a savage Is an animal man But man this guy Costlo Van Stenis They gotta make that Fabian Van Stenis fight And it's gonna be absolutely nuts But could you imagine if it was on TV And people could have seen it
Starting point is 00:38:55 And then they were like This is the fight they're gonna make Well, listen, hopefully they'll get that sorted now for the Dublin card. Because they've killed the shipment fight. They've killed, like, you know, you're playing around too much and you didn't make that happen. Now you've got to make this one happen. Just a note as well, Charlie Ward has been amazing since he went to date.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Five now. Four now. Four now. Yeah, in Ballet, War. Unbelievable, man. Savage record from Charlie. Another knockout. Yeah, fair play to him.
Starting point is 00:39:19 He's got his... And he had a hard, tough round I heard. The first round that I fought was very difficult. Like, I heard it was pretty, like, he lost it, you know? That's a pretty, pretty consistent. Well, that's, you know, Charlie is that knockout power. And I think when you have that knockout pair and that division at that weight class, you know, you can sort of sometimes lose a round and then come back into the next round
Starting point is 00:39:39 and, you know, go hell for leather and get a knockout. How many times we see that happen in middleweight, like heavyweight those divisions? But I'll say, like, about Charlie as well, he seems to be getting very comfortable with the spotlight. He does, he likes it. You can tell that. You hear the interview, go, ah, grand jess, stuff like that, like it's good. It is good.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I heard our boys, Sean Betts and Steve at this point. They didn't get him backstage. No. Man, when Charlie came, I'll never forget that, man. A Belltor 200. When Charlie came back and he just lit the whole place up, man. That was magic. He just did that every time.
Starting point is 00:40:07 He was brilliant. Charlie Leary was brilliant against Chris Bungard. And it really highlights how good Paul Redmond is. Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, Leary, like Chris Bungard, as we saw against Terry Brazier, this guy has skills. And for Charlie to come out and do that to him, I thought that was really, really impressive. He was completely dominant, though, I felt. It's going to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:40:25 to see now, I think Paul, you know, Paul wants to go to the States and fight against, you know, Americans from what I think he's been sort of putting out in Twitter and things like that. So, but I'd love to see Paul get his, you know, rewards and just for being a servant of Irish mixed martial arts, and you said, beating the guys he's beaten. And I'd love to see him get a spot in the combing her main here. I think it'd be brilliant. Be great, but I do think you're right in terms of the US. Kate Jackson, a great win over Lina, can't pronounce her second name. Terry Brazier, back to winning ways after that lost to Chris Bungar
Starting point is 00:40:56 with an Americana win over Alessandro Botti Luke Ord beat Nathan Rose man Nathan Rose was taught to be a big prospect you know like Jimmy Mano's been pumping that guy a awful lot Luke Ord breaks that winning momentum he had Alvi Davis got a toe to the hole did you see that he was absolutely disgusting it was like right
Starting point is 00:41:14 right in the ring piece Canella has spoke to Gila Galeh has nothing wrong with that there's absolutely something wrong with that mate You're not a day put your foot in someone's cavus. You're just not. The cavus? Or whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I don't know. Whatever you call it. Your hoop, I believe. You're not laid. Look, you're not, no, you're just definitely not allowed to. I'm surprised the guards weren't at his hotel room two hours later.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I tell you what. It was fucking disgusting. It was graphic, man. But like Bellets were there planted it out in their feck in Instagram. No, shame. Holy God. I know, but I mean, these things have to be hollowed. These things happen in MMA.
Starting point is 00:41:50 They do happen. One's fucking more. I swear to God, this computer's going to have the fucking window. Keith McCabe with a great account
Starting point is 00:41:57 of himself against Gilar Bofando. Bofando, an explosive striker, Keith was standing there with him. Like, I mean, he went to the full 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:42:04 on short notice and I'm still going to say it again. If you want to put on a fight in Dublin for Dylan Danes, get Keith in there. You've been saying it. No,
Starting point is 00:42:12 but I mean, like, they aren't going to, right? Keith is three and four now, right? What's Danis going to want to fight at 108 here?
Starting point is 00:42:18 What, like, his little special catch weights that he does? Dennis White. I'll have you know. But I mean, I think that's a realistic opponent. Like Keith has won fights. He's dangerous in situations.
Starting point is 00:42:30 He has lost to Kiefer. He has lost to Richie. I think these are all reasons that will help him if they want to put a fight on there. And I also think it'd be a big thing for Dennis to fight in Dublin. Like, look at the road Peter Quiley got coming off the back of his relationship with McGregor. I can see I can see him like coming out in Dublin and getting a big
Starting point is 00:42:48 response from the crowd there, man. Like, I can honestly see that. Like, I know Do you think the crowd will be with him? Yeah, I do. There's always a lot of SPG heads around, isn't it? But it's not even that. It's like, it is that. It's Connor fans, right?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Like, I mean, the abuse that Miles was getting, like, this is a good that's been fighting over here for ages, representing Ireland. Like, and look, that's the way it is. And look, that's, that's turned into a good thing from Miles' pro's career. It turned into a good thing
Starting point is 00:43:11 for Peter Quaidie's career. Everybody's happy. And I think it would look good for Bellator to have Dylan walking out. It's, like, ah! Yeah, I think you're more likely to see a fighter like that on a card here, then you will be with a different promotion like the UFC
Starting point is 00:43:26 because obviously, I think... Well, they can build him here. Like, I mean, it makes sense for him to come in front. It does no, I totally agree with you. I think it would be a good idea. I'd love to see the reaction though. I don't think it'd be his plain sailing as you reckon it would be some of the pictures and stuff he puts up. Looking great. Quite provocative.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Yeah, that's what we want. We don't want boring guys. No, that's... No, I agree with you. And I, no, listen, I think it would be a good scrap. but listen the Bellator matchmaking hasn't been the best in recent months in Ireland anyway
Starting point is 00:43:55 but Justin Burlinson I should mention also we got a win over Wendell Lewis it looked like a nine second KO but I believe that Wendell Lewis's knee went so unfortunate one for him John Redmond lost a split decision
Starting point is 00:44:07 to Kevin Freer he fell to 7 and 14 there with that one but he has put out on social media that he will be back and he felt like he put in a good performance his first fight under the SBG banner, of course.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And we also, we already mentioned Franz and Nathan. So let's get on to the UFC Greenville cart. We're only going to go through the European stuff here because it's just too much this week, guys. I'm sorry. Well, we have to go to mention the zombie. We'll mention zombie, yeah. We'll definitely give my zombie dimension now.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Look, I've been a fan of this guy forever. Ever since his W.C. days, looked absolutely brilliant. That is no main feat what he did to my Canada. My God. There was zombie fans crying in the arena afterwards. I was one of them. It was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:44:47 In Dublin. Listen. To go out, do that against the guy like Moikano. We thought, you know, it was very impressive from one of the best featherweights of all time and Jose Alato to do it. Look what Zombie did to him. Absolutely went out from the get-go
Starting point is 00:45:01 and slaughtered poor Maitano. It was over after that first, I think it was the knee landed. It was the right hook set at all. Yeah, it was lovely counter. But what I love about it is, I didn't know if he could ever come back and rejoin the top of the division
Starting point is 00:45:17 after taking so long off. I think he can do it. oh, he's done it. Like, he's doing it. You know, he's already doing it. Unbelievable guy, and I just love his energy. It's completely different. He's such a mysterious dude, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Like, did his military service, came back, has a family, has so much support in Korea. Great haircut. You know, the best T-shirt in M.A. Great guy. Great guy. I love the mystique, as you say about him. It's like this superhero from, obviously, a foreign land. South Korea.
Starting point is 00:45:45 yeah. Fucking hell. Yeah, Molly, like I was obviously covering the Bellator fights but I could just see Twitter just going fucking mental. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:56 I was watched all of it. Even my editor, Brian got onto me and was like, Molly, it looks unbelievable. Like, it's rare that Brian
Starting point is 00:46:02 to get onto and say something. Like, you know, like he was like, Molly looks unbelievable. Molly wasn't getting beaten that night.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And Greenville were actually screaming her name as well. She's just, she's so cool, me, ball, me, ball, but she's just,
Starting point is 00:46:13 she's just such a personal person and she relates to so many people. She's a people's champion. You know what the best thing about her is? Huh. She's an Everton fan from Liverpool. I love that. But look, I feel like, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:27 look, we were really excited about this K-Jorius champion v KSW champion. But, you know, Ariane's in a difficult situation now. Like, I don't think anyone would have predicted that she comes in and she loses two fights and they're bounce to anyone. The end of the first round, Molly obviously
Starting point is 00:46:43 got in a dominant position. And she's in side control. and she was landing hammer fists on the side of Ariani's face. Ariani got back up. She looked right, walked left. Her legs were all over the place. I just wonder if she took such a bashing in her first fight, confidence-wise, and clearly she looked nervous in that first fight as well.
Starting point is 00:47:04 I felt anyway she didn't let go. She let go a little bit more on this one, but towards the end of the round, she just looked like she just didn't want to be in there. She was white as a ghost, as you said in the phone there to me today. And did you see her between the second and third round? I thought that was even worse. It was like our coaches had to urge her to go back in.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Like, Molly was overwhelming her. Like, overwhelming her. Like, I mean... And we said... It's relentless. We said the big thing about this was who's going to be on the front foot because both do a lot of damage on the front foot. Molly took it.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And what I noticed about Molly was, she was completely calm in the corner. Like, she was very relentless in the actual cage. But when she went back to her corner, she was talking to everybody fine, really calm. I have to go in and do this. And it's just brilliant. to see it. Put it all together. She wasn't as
Starting point is 00:47:46 maybe reckless as she was. Renetic. She's usually erratic and stuff like that, you know. She was cool, calm, composed, calculated and you could see that difference from her last two fights. And I think Ariani, I don't know what's going on there as well. It's a big step up, man. We see it often. It is a big step up. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:04 we often say in this show, and I think obviously a lot of hacks say it is that you learn so much from your first loss, but it can go your way sometimes as well. You know, you you overthink it and that looks like is what it's happened
Starting point is 00:48:17 with Ariani, especially the nerves like you could tell her legs she just didn't look as though she wanted to be in there to be honest shit. No, I agree, I agree,
Starting point is 00:48:23 but I just think we should say fair play to Molly. Like so many people were after her first fight against Gillian, she's rubish, blah blah blah. You shut them up Molly.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Fair plate, you shut their fucking mouth. Fair play to you. Brilliant performance. She did it against a fantastic opponent as well. And listen, I hope it works out for Ariani as well.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I do as well. She's brilliant. She deserves to be in there. Phenomenal fighter. Do not cheapen this win for Molly McCann. That was a savage season there. Moving on, Italy's Penna destroys Wyman, I have written down here. We don't know if Noel wants to claim him was one of our hour.
Starting point is 00:48:52 No, no, no, no, chance. Isn't, I said this before to fight, concerns about Wyman getting back in there. It's four years since we've seen him in the ultimate fighting championships. Concerns justified. And really, you know. It was tough to watch. I don't like saying it.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Tough to watch. The corner probably should have pulled him. Between the second and tort? Yes. Yeah, I felt so, too, yeah. A lot of blood there, man. A lot of blood, a lot of cuts. He just got sparked up.
Starting point is 00:49:14 A lot of contact. Let's be honest, all respect to Pena. Decent fighter. Is he a world beater? I don't know. Probably not a world beater yet, you couldn't say. But he's very, he's a difficult skills guy. I'll give him that much.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Like, he's hard to fight. He's very tall. But when he's landed knee after knee after knee for two rounds, come on. You know, why? I thought he was brilliant. I thought he did a brilliant job. The corner should have looked at that and gone. Listen, Matt isn't in this anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Let's pull him from the second round. man, he was beating up. It was a mess. It was just... He was all class afterwards as well. Listen, great guy. Love watching him fight, but I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:48 you draw a line under it now and it's just tough to watch me see you guys like that come back and they just can't seem to leave the sport alone. There was one fight I didn't get to see on this card, just the way they overlapped and then because it was on the main card,
Starting point is 00:49:58 I couldn't access it that easily. Alessio de Chirico. Is that how I say his name? Chirichio, I think. Chiricio, I think. Chiricio, or, yeah. Well, was he robbed? because that's what a lot of people are saying.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I wasn't overly. I wasn't overly. I'm not going to comment. I don't know. It was a Robin. He got pissed off. I actually probably scored it for his opponent. I had it.
Starting point is 00:50:23 What did I have it? I had it. 29, 28, I believe. But it was one of these fights where if you look after the interview in the fight, he stormed off and was no, he wouldn't shake your man's hand. Come on, no. He was screaming at him and things like that. Kevin Holland.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Kevin Holland. It wasn't it. It was a poor fight. to be honest it wasn't a great fight but Kevin Holland didn't believe popped his shoulder out as well
Starting point is 00:50:45 dislocated his shoulder between rounds so to get a win I suppose under those circumstances is good but both guys really didn't seem to get going at all and I don't think
Starting point is 00:50:56 Dana White would be too happy watching that well who knows after that Brennan lockdown stuff he loved it but I didn't I honestly didn't have that much
Starting point is 00:51:04 qualms with the decision all right well let's get on to the main event of everyone's weekend Bernuckle FC from the beautiful Tampa, Florida. Look, I was there for one reason for Artum and Polly. I wasn't there for anything else.
Starting point is 00:51:18 And to be honest, I had some friends come over to watch this point, and the interest was really dying until Artim and Polly came out, you know what I mean? See Chris Lebe and getting, you know, again, I'm just... Yeah, look, I was going to say you did watch this. For the function of this show, you gave it a go. I did. A recorder was free on Air Sports, so... And Fairplay to Artem, you know, that's a big win.
Starting point is 00:51:40 That's two wins in a row on Bear and Uncle FC. He has elevated his stock to a level far beyond where he was in the UFC. Now, he was driving the interest in this fight. I'm sure Pauli sold a lot of tickets with his boxing history as well. But my God, Artem leaves that with a hell of a lot of stock, and that man's going to get paid wherever he goes. If he wants to fight in Baron Uncle, fair enough. If he wants to go back to MMA, if he wants to go to boxing,
Starting point is 00:52:02 I have a feeling there's going to be a lucrative situation for him now. Yeah, well, I think he's going to fight for, you know, he said after the fight, he wants that Barronuckle world title. so that's an interesting one for me but I'd like to just comment on Aritham first of all I thought he showed ter terr class after the fight
Starting point is 00:52:17 getting something bad about Pauley he's carried himself very well throughout this whole promotion we've never given him too much stick Polly was the one that was really bringing it to the gutter he was bringing into the gutter man and for Paulie to come in to say man and I know it's obviously tough for a competitive guy like Pauley
Starting point is 00:52:32 but to come out and say he didn't hit me like man look at your face like you know what I mean like that just bothers me like only the ones only the ones, yeah. He must have a month in the whole fighting. It's all those different knuckles. He must have, yeah, ten knuckles, shuffle, John Cena, or whatever they call.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Listen, man, just, yeah, I'm glad you're not fighting again because I don't like you. I think you're a disgrace to boxing the way you carry yourself, spitting on a guy's face is just, you know, the lowest of the low. You're going to piss on a guy's mouth after you break his teeth. There you go. Well, well, yeah, and what he said as well, I think on the buildup, actually to MMA fighting. What he said was, it was obviously a clip, I think it was from a press conference, you know, talking about boxing fans and MMA fans.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Must have been Jose. Yeah. Well, Casey was over there as well. Absolutely just ludicrous comments coming out of the guys, mate. And I was glad. Well, we paid your wages that night, mate. So boxing wouldn't do that for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:20 There you go. So, yeah, listen, I'm glad to see the back of Pauli. Fair Played Art. I'm still not. Is Pauli done now? Do you believe he's done? Yeah. Like, listen, he's just, you know, coming out and saying he was going to do what he did
Starting point is 00:53:32 and then didn't get a sniff of going anywhere near it. And, of course, the first thing he said, I think, as everyone sort of said, before and oh my hand's broken okay okay man just just go gracefully do you know what I mean like it's just very frustrating to see people like that I did I did one four and five I think I scored for it
Starting point is 00:53:49 three rounds of two for Arctum I don't know yeah I think it's one four four foot definitely the fifth but I think you know watching the fight Paulie was shuffling around did a lot of feints Not a lot of contact artem was pressing the issue watching that was pressin it pressing a pressin it always trying to land always try to go out I think his ability to close distance from his MMA background
Starting point is 00:54:06 actually really messed up Polly because Polly's waiting for his close counters in the pocket all time and Adam's running at you from the bell. He was. He was sprinted him and he was going left and right and changing his stance. Listen, fair play,
Starting point is 00:54:18 right. Best look to him, man. Yeah, well, Tony. He carried himself excellent as well. I think it's great to see him doing so well beyond the USC because I never felt they, like I mean, they were putting them in big spots,
Starting point is 00:54:27 but there was no real, I never felt there was a good plan for him. You know, I felt like they were just, oh, that's, come Swanson. Oh, let's do this. You'd wonder about bare and uncle, though, you know, where's this money, you know, how long it's going to go on.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Yeah, I didn't like the, like, I mean, the product was good. It didn't look too bad, but it just, I don't know. It just, it was very hard to hold my interest. Like, I mean, me and the lads, when we were watching it, we got excited about the Vaseline situation. We were like, the petroleum jelly. Get this, Chloe, updating us about this again. This is far more interesting.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Yeah. Yeah, listen, it's not my cup of tea again. Yeah, it's going to take me, it's going to take a big fight for me to go back, you know? Yeah. I've seen Chris Lee even as well, got knocked out of it. Like, come on. Did he got knocked out of his decision? Our decision, whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:05 He got beaten up. badly anyway. Dakota Cochran. It's just, just, just another. What's the story with Artem and Jason Knight are the best buds now? Jason Knight, man, they should have left him outside the ring for that.
Starting point is 00:55:17 It felt that it was a bit weird. Yeah. Maybe the trains got, I don't know. He's calling out Polly Malinage. He just lost me. He said he's going to retire. Sit down. You're right.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah, no, I agree with you. I think Artham was like, why is this dude here again? I don't have to fight him again. Listen, it's not for me. Again, you know, it's the older fighters. old UFC vets
Starting point is 00:55:37 you know boxers going in someone's going to get seriously hurt I feel someone think about the children right now we have a huge we're going to have a really in-depth look at this cage where he's 100 car
Starting point is 00:55:48 when we're back but there is no better way to start this off than to talk to Nicholas Dalby a man whose story has really really resonated with the fan base I mean Nicholas had some serious issues with depression with his mental health after his UFC stint
Starting point is 00:56:04 he's gone back to the path which got him to the big stage, Cage Warriors, and it didn't go all that well, first of all. You know, he came back and there was a split decision loss to Carlo Pedersolli. It says something about the strength of Nicholas Dalby's name when a guy gets signed immediately after beating him. That's how valuable a win is seen over Nicholas Dalby.
Starting point is 00:56:22 This weekend he fights Ross Houston for the wealth away title. Ross Houston's already got the golden ticket in the belt, but the one thing you need, if you don't have it already, with the belt, is a win over a UFC veteran. And here comes Nicholas Dalby. This is a very, very interesting fight. He's a very, very interesting man, Nicholas Dalby. So we're going to leave you with our interview with him,
Starting point is 00:56:41 and we'll be back in about 15 minutes to really give this card a good looking over. He is one of the most talked about men on this Cage Warriors 106 card, The Night of Champions. He is the man everybody's talking about ahead of this one. And ladies and gentlemen, I'm happy to introduce Nicholas Dalby back to Yorobach. Nicholas, how are you, my friend? I am doing awesome. Thank you. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:57:06 I'm good. I'm even better because I get to watch you fight this weekend. And, I mean, it's an incredible one because, you know, it's been a long road back to this title. And you're right here now. I mean, this has been a three-fight journey with Cage Warriors since your departure from the UFC. It got off to a, not a great start with that split decision lost to Petter Sully, but you've battled back with two brilliant wins against Lahore and Mulpeter. And now you're here. How does it feel? It's so close now. touch it. It feels amazing. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's, I think last fight I had this like full circle moment with,
Starting point is 00:57:46 with all the like coincidences that came together for the fight. So this is just, to me, feels like I'm cementing my destiny and my place in Cage Warriors and in the future of this sport. Right. And I mean, you made no secret about, you know, battling your deal. demons ahead of this and that was way before even even the petersolliport that you came out and you made this public I mean is it good to see so many people get behind you and support you because I've seen an amazing outpouring of emotion for Nicholas Dalby over the last year
Starting point is 00:58:19 yes of course when you when you bear yourself and open yourself up to the world it's it's nice to see that what I'm putting out is getting well received you know it's it's personal stuff so i'm just happy that that people they take something from it be it getting better mental health themselves or just you know getting interested in in this danish fighter so so i'm just happy for all the support no matter how big or small it's it's actually a big plight in the the fighting industry it's something that i hear about an awful lot but don't see it actually being talked about publicly like you did a lot. Do you feel like, you know, maybe it's going to help some guys to see you speaking about this and seeing how successful you've been since then?
Starting point is 00:59:12 Do you believe it will help some fighters to see you being so open like this? I hope so. I haven't heard from any fighters that have. Well, actually, there's been a couple, I think, actually, if I think about it, there's been a couple guys that let me know that, you know, was an inspiration to hear me getting back on the horse after going through what I did. That was an inspiration to them, but I also heard from just normal, regular people that, you know, doesn't fight. That's also found some inspiration in my story. So that just adds even more fuel to the fire.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Absolutely. I've got to ask you about your opponent, Russ Houston, the champion. There's been a lot of talk between you two guys. You haven't been shy about putting your finger in each other's chest. What do you think of this guy, Ross Houston? I mean, have you watched his fights? And if so, what do you think of his ability, first of all? Well, as a fighter, he's decent.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I've, of course, watched all his fights, as I always do with every opponent I fight. And he's got some tools for sure. But I also think that he talks the talk, but he doesn't walk the walk. you know what I mean. I don't think his fighting skills matches his self-confidence. Right. Do you see the parallels
Starting point is 01:00:42 that I see between you on your first run with Cage Warriors when you were undefeated and Ross now? Do you kind of compare that? Do you think it's in a similar situation he's in to where you were on your first Cage Warriors ascent? not really i i felt like even back then i was a more complete fighter and and if i had fought him back then i i would for sure won the fight as well so um so that's just a bad comparison as
Starting point is 01:01:12 far as you're concerned yeah i i i don't see it you know he he seems to be a nice guy but he just i think the way he tries to come across it just gets a bit cringy because he's trying to too hot. It's the new thing in MMA these days, the king of cringe in the UFC, and do you believe Ross's cage warriors, the king of the king of cage warriors cringe? I'll let the people decide that, but I don't, you know, I think, I feel like he's trying to heart and it shows and it falls through. Yeah. He's a big dude. Like when I look at the fight, like his soy is always kind of, it's staggering nearly when you see the guy. He's very, very big. Do you feel like that's, a key weapon for him here?
Starting point is 01:01:58 He's just his sheer physicality and size. Yeah, in some aspects of the fight, it for sure is. But again, I don't feel like he's so good at utilizing his weapons. Let's see if he's improved for this fight. But, you know, I've taken account for that happening as well. And that's why I feel like he isn't living up to his full potential because he's, I think he's underperforming. in regards to the physical traits he has.
Starting point is 01:02:32 And for me personally fighting him, yeah, he's a big dude, but he's not bigger than Darren Till or even like, I think one of them, it was in my fourth or fifth pro fight. You know, I fought a huge dude from Finland. So I've been in there with people that are his size. And, you know, of course, they can, they can be strong, but then there's so many other things you can do with them. yes it feels like a silly question in hindsight given that you're a scandinavian and everybody over there is at least two foot taller than me at least anyway you know you guys are all huge he's uh he's like when people look at this fight nick the one thing people keep saying to me is like houston's never fought a guy like nicholas dalby before but they feel like you're the best opponent he's ever been put against um yeah can you say that same thing for him because we know who you fought,
Starting point is 01:03:24 you know what I mean? Can you, is it any way arguable that this is the biggest test of your career? Like if I look at the, if I look at Houston on paper, he's nowhere near the most dangerous opponent I've ever fought.
Starting point is 01:03:39 But for sure, this is one of the most pivotal fights of my career. So the fight itself, and of course Houston is a part of that, is a very pivotal moment for me, but looking just at Houston, Houston and the tools he carries in his toolbox, I wouldn't put him on a, you know, top three of the best opponents ever fought.
Starting point is 01:04:03 So, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I was wondering about that. And I'm also wondering about an unbeaten guy. Like, when you're planning, is it harder to plan for an unbeaten guy? Because you don't have that footage of him being beaten. You know, like, as in a lot of people, they go unbeat and then their first loss, everyone says, there's the blueprint to beat this guy.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Does it make it a more difficult task to construct a game plan to beat this guy if he hasn't been beaten before? Well, that kind of depends on if he had lost how he'd lost. Like if he got knocked out in six seconds, you wouldn't be able to think. Right, yeah, okay. Good point. So, but, you know, he's gone to a lot of decisions, which means there's a lot of footage on him. And, you know, that's given us a very good picture of who he is as a fighter. and in what way we think he could have improved.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Plus, he puts up a lot of stuff on his social media that gives us clues as well. So, yeah. What's this about? Can you elaborate on that somewhat, or is this a secret that you're not telling us? No, it's not a secret. We've just been looking at what he's been putting out on social media and, you know, having a look. It's given you some hints? well it's it's confirmed things let's say like that very interesting but you know yeah he's he's he's
Starting point is 01:05:24 when you're in the cage one thing is looking at video and and another thing is being in the cage and i i recognize that with tell solely not that i overlooked him but i from looking at video of him i thought it was maybe going to be an easier fight um plus i was coming back from you know uh a lot of years out and stuff like that. So it was a more difficult fight than I expected. So having that happened to me has for sure put me in a state where I'm never going to look past an opponent ever. The listeners of the show will hear our interview with Graham Boylan later on in the episode, but I'll tell you something he said to me.
Starting point is 01:06:05 He praised you not only as a fighter but as a person, but he also said that he believes that, you know, four fighters could be on the UFC's radar after this event. One of the most prominent stories, the most prominent story, is about the fact that people believe that you're not only filing for Ross Houston's Welterweight title, but they believe you're fighting for a slot on that UFC Copenhagen card. When this fight was announced, people were saying, if Dalby wins this fight, he should be the first name on that card. Do you believe, I mean, I've seen this grow and grow since the fight's been announced.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Do you believe that this is the one, this is the one that will get you back to the promised land, so to speak? Yeah, I like the way you put it. Yes, for sure. That's why I feel this fight is so pivotal, and that's why I've prepared so intensely for it. I've really been improving my skills even more than for the last fight, and especially my mental, where I'm mentally,
Starting point is 01:07:06 has gotten even better than before. do the UFC give you a hint when you're this close to something like this because obviously it's hard for media guys to get this kind of information off the UFC but um do you guys get a hint when it's coming up close or do you just get a feeling does it just feel like everything is moving towards that situation uh well if you're asking me directly if i've gotten any hints no i haven't but that could be my manager's just you know messing with you you know making sure my head is focused on the right task. But I think either way, it doesn't matter too much
Starting point is 01:07:50 because I think being told that, hey, if you win this fight, having UFC comments, say if you win this fight, you're going to win, maybe that could put some pressure on that would be detrimental. So I like just focusing on this fight and doing the best job as I can. And then that should determine
Starting point is 01:08:10 and what happens next. But surely if this fight goes according to plan and you have the performance that you have planned in your mind, you'd be disappointed if that call didn't come, right? Like, I mean, would you be? I shouldn't be putting words in your mouth. Absolutely, yeah. I'd be very disappointed because I really feel like even in the last fight that I showed, I am way better than...
Starting point is 01:08:33 Amazing. Than every... Yeah, thank you. I'm way better than everyone else in the Kays Wars World's World's Way Division. right now. So, and I, you know, I really feel I'm a couple of steps ahead, at a couple levels above. And, yeah, so if I don't get signed back to the UC,
Starting point is 01:08:53 they are missing out, then they are making a mistake. I agree with you. But they like to make good decisions, so I'm sure it's going to happen after I've put on an awesome performance. Given everything that's happened, Nick, and given the road you've been on and this amazing story, for guys like me especially of course but um you know do you look back on your ufc fights um you know the last couple like do you look back on them and and regret do you have any regret when you
Starting point is 01:09:19 look back on them or how do you feel about it i did at one point um but now i don't have any regret anymore um that was that that was a part of of the journey i've been on to be where i'm at now for better and worse and if i hadn't gone through those fights, gone through what all the shit I've gone through. I wouldn't have been where I am now with a beautiful fiancé, an incredible, amazing daughter, good mental health. I'm in a good place right now, so I wouldn't, like, switch that out for anything else. And I wouldn't be where I am today if stuff hadn't happened the way it did. It's an incredible outlook you have. You know, do you have a, like, I mean, this is a very cliche question to ask you, but do you, do you
Starting point is 01:10:07 have a prediction when you think about this for you, how it will end? Is there a way that it keeps playing out in your head when you see it? Pure violence. Wow. I like the sound of that, Nick. Did you get Dylan Dennis's shorts, by the way? That's another question I wanted to ask you. I saw you online earlier. You want the leopard skin shorts for this one? Yeah, Leopard print is my thing. No, he hasn't replied yet, I think. Oh, come on, Dylan.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Yeah, I'm looking for reply. Maybe I'm not famous. enough. I do have that blue checkmark on Twitter, but he hasn't replied yet. This is terrible. This is terrible. You've got to tell you where you got the goddamn leopard skin shorts. Exactly. Nick, it's always a pleasure. I'm going to see you in London. I can't wait to see you fight again. And thank
Starting point is 01:10:51 you for giving me so much time ahead of this fight. I really appreciate you. Yeah, it's a pleasure always to talk to you, so yeah, call me anytime. Thank you so much, Nick. You have a child to look after there. I can hear her. I'm annoying her by taking up our time with her father. I'm very sorry. No, it's fine. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:11:07 All the best, my friend. You're welcome, man. Take care. Great to speak to Nicholas Dalby, as always. What a man, what a gent. I can't wait for that for you. I think it's main event for a reason, given his story, given the implications of a win for either him or Ross,
Starting point is 01:11:28 I think is absolutely massive. For everyone really fighting for the title that night and the rest. It's a big one in it? It's huge. It's huge. But let's have a look right. Let's get Minneapolis out away. There's only a couple of Europeans on this card,
Starting point is 01:11:40 and it's main evented by Francis. Francis Angano from France, not Camero. Ireland. He's from Ireland. Dos Santos, I can see this being a serious, serious task for Francis, to be honest. I think Junior striking is unbelievable. I think he's unbelievable. I think he's made a lot of guys look amateur that he's been in there recently.
Starting point is 01:12:03 But, of course, at the end of the day, big friend, he's got that power, man. And he can keep on going. what do you think of that main event I mean do you do you feel like I haven't really seen the lines I haven't seen the bookmakers lines on it but the feeling I'm getting just seeing online is a lot of people see Francis in the ascendancy here
Starting point is 01:12:20 yeah I think it's going to be a close one on the on the bookie lines definitely you know two elite level guys it was interesting I saw today Francis in Ganoe questioned junior desanses validity as a Brazilian G2 black belt oh the abuse yeah and I think you know it's amazing
Starting point is 01:12:38 be a good tactic because we've seen Junior get rattled once or twice and he doesn't tend to perform his best when he's in a rattle sort of state of mind. So listen, man, it's a wide open one. I see this one playing out in the feet though. As you said, you know, the boxing we've seen from Junior DeSantis is at such an elite level. What was that fight when he, I think he beat Ben Rothwell and Croatia. That was like an absolute clinic. And then was a black guy, even off that he fought as well, and he made him look, look at what black guys done since. Just the combinations on the feet and the variation of what... Speed.
Starting point is 01:13:12 He's so fast. Easily getting a boxing ring for me. Oh, yeah. I think he already has. Then you have, though, you know, Francis and Gannock. You just have that hellish power that he could... You know, if he lands as well, you know, I don't know what way to call this fight. I just think it's a really fascinating fight.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Francis does have the potential to land. Junior, you know, we've seen Junior office game in certain fights as well. He has that... We've also seen Francis' office game. We have definitely seen Francis' office game. This is either going to go one way or the other, obviously, but I'm just not kind of really sure what fight we're going to see. Are you interested? I am.
Starting point is 01:13:47 I am interested. I think we could see a terrible fight as well, possibly, you know, both guys being a little bit hesitant to engage, a little bit like the fight where we saw. Lewis and in the gangham, don't tell me that. Yeah, I wouldn't really be surprised. I don't, I don't expect that. I expect Junior to come out and wanting to touch him, get in and out very quickly, and then it's going to be in Gander's business to close the distance. I could see in Ghana getting, you know, getting bashed up against the cage and then just unleashing a colossal right on JDS's head and knocking them out.
Starting point is 01:14:17 It is one of those fights. I think we're going to see a really explosive fight that's going to end it in two rounds or a fight that's going to be pretty stale and maybe a little bit chess-like. If Junior has it his way and he's able to pick him apart, I don't think Francis makes it the distance. I think it's a different fight than the steep eight fight where instead of having someone lie on you, you're going to have someone tattooing you. and Junior has one-stop power
Starting point is 01:14:38 100% Oh definitely Yeah Go back and look at that Mark Hunt fight Jesus Scary But and Jucia Formiga And Joe Benevita's for the
Starting point is 01:14:47 way Number one contender That might never happen The Co main event Just make a decision That's ridiculous Got the return of Damian Moye Against Anthony Martin
Starting point is 01:14:56 Yeah But the one The other big European interest On the card is of course Paul Craig Taking on another undefeated opponent and this has become pretty much the standard matchup for Paul now.
Starting point is 01:15:10 You're going to be fighting an undefeated guy, Paul, every single time. He's coming off that win over Kennedy and Jukru. What was he called the African Beast or the African Savage or something like that? He's some cool nickname anyway. I think it was the answer. You just wonder where Paul sometimes, you know, some of his wins, he has been very underwhelming in the fight. He still gets it done.
Starting point is 01:15:31 And he still gets it done. Maybe the UFC brazagan, we don't really want this guy in. here, but he's, you know, he's winning fights, he's pulling out of the bag, you know, going for a broke. Let's just keep throwing him to the wolves. I'm starting to love it. Like, I'm starting to, I think it's a cool underdog story, but. Everybody's back in the third round submission for Paul great these days, man.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I think it was the fight, you know, and I just, I always sort of worry with Paul. His gas tank doesn't seem to be the best. It's a weird one because this is one that I've talked to you about before, I think. Like, it's weird the fact that you're right in the sense that during the fight, he doesn't, but somehow he then pulls out this amazing. bit of grappling. Like, where are you finding the energy for this? It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:16:09 I don't know. And it is. That's why I like this story. They're throwing them to the wolves the whole time. If he does this now again, like, and I spoke to Paul about this before on the show, it's like, he's kind of got that run of undefeated guys at the moment. But I feel like if he tags on two wins, one against Kennedy and one against Alano Menafeld, they're going to start throwing him to the, to the monster. Yeah. Like, I mean, look at his losses.
Starting point is 01:16:34 they haven't been too bad, Tyson Pedro, Khalil Roundtree. Like, these guys are... A guys... Two guys that were getting a push from the bras from the UFC, so... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:43 It's good, it is. It's an interesting one. Who knows? Paul Craig. This one's gonna pan out, really, to be honest you. I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to it. Now, let's get on to the real business.
Starting point is 01:16:53 The real stuff. It's Cage Warriors 100, man. I have been dying for this card, man. I love it. I love the whole... The whole idea that these guys can change their lives with a win that night. And as we know them,
Starting point is 01:17:05 Cage Warriors' titles are like golden tickets to the UFC and six of the one before grabs. Like this, as we'll talk to Graham Boylan about this later, but this is a big risk for a promotion of Cage Warriors to put that many titles on a card. Like, I mean, this is unbelievable. One, two, three, four, five, six.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Yeah, unbelievable. Dalby and Houston's a very interesting match. I mean, Houston is like, you know, unblemished career. He looks the part. He's huge. And here comes Dalby, after battling all these demons
Starting point is 01:17:32 to come and try and reclaim that. belt and get and everybody feels as though if dalby wins he's going straight onto that Copenhagen card they think he's the first name that should be on the sheet yeah that's a lot of pressure um you know for nicholas dalby i've seen incredible he's tweeting about it the whole time i want to get on this big coheneggarten card i'm so proud of the danish fans for it's sold out i believe already um you know i just think maybe it's a worry for me when guys are thinking about the future it's impossible not to know right it isn't but sometimes i think When they announced that,
Starting point is 01:18:04 when I was in, was it in Stockholm? Yeah, was in Stockholm there. Man, everybody's just backstage Dalby, Dalby,
Starting point is 01:18:10 Dalby, like everybody and potentially Zarnem back. Yeah, listen, it's a, you think it's a no-brainer, but how many times
Starting point is 01:18:16 we see the UFC make, you know, fake- and look-man. Yeah, there you go. Listen, yeah, I just,
Starting point is 01:18:22 for a guy who's obviously had mental issues as well, he's talked about, you know, the depression and things like that, to try and maybe build yourself up and,
Starting point is 01:18:30 and it just maybe takes your eye off the prize a little bit of what is happening this Saturday. I have a little bit of worry in relation for this fight because I've been so impressed with Ross Houston as well, man. Yeah, he's a beast. He's a beast. And like, you know, as I said before, this is a win
Starting point is 01:18:43 that's every bit as important to him as it is the Dalby. I mean, he needs that win over UFC veteran. We saw Carlo Petersolle, the last man who bet Nicholas Dalby was signed within weeks of beating Dalby. That's the kind of pedigree. That's where the UFC see him, you know what I mean? He's right there. Definitely, like, just look
Starting point is 01:18:59 at the guys they've signed in the past as you said, and you've a belt going into this. It's going to be probably the most watch show of the year. You know, by a country mile on UFC fight pass as well. I guarantee it, Dana White and
Starting point is 01:19:11 Sean Shelby will have their eyes on this one and hopefully better eyes than that had last Tuesday night. We're finally going to see Jack Grant fight for a lightweight title. Obviously, this was the guy. Everybody wanted to see Soron Back fight. I love this fight.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Yeah, it's unbelievable. So the best fight in the card. Sarumbach, obviously dropped down to featherweight, won the interim title against the... What I'm Sarn? Morgan Sherrye. And then... You know, the, I love recant peter.
Starting point is 01:19:35 The title has been essentially vacated. And so Jack Grant v. Joy Herbert, man. Holy shit. That is a burn burner if there ever was one. Like, I mean, can you believe that that Bama didn't re-sign joy? Like, they let him go off? It's unbelievable. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Like, are you kidding me, man? Isn't it? Like, I mean, against McCalligan, that was the one that put him on the map. Like, I mean, he was already on the map. Let's be honest. But that was like, where you're going in there banging with McCulligan and you're coming out with that result? Yeah, it was like, yeah. When you, you would need that to Joe McCulligan.
Starting point is 01:20:03 And it was, you know, you're going up a little level in our cage warriors' rankings here. You're going to pretty much soon fight for a title. And interesting. Three wins in a row with Cage Warriors now. You know, as much as respect, Joy, I love this fight. If Reese had been gone to 170, this could be very well, be Rees McKee versus Jack Grant to match. Not as well. Yeah. Just an unbelievable fight.
Starting point is 01:20:21 I think this one's, you know, someone's getting finished here. But, you know, if we look at Joy's last fight, man, holy fuck. That was like, that was impressive, impressive stuff against Stephen O'Keefe to just take a out in that devastating fashion. I think Jay... And after being under it for the four four minutes of that fight... First four minutes,
Starting point is 01:20:41 he was getting absolutely, you know, smote. One opportunity percentage of him. You're done, son. But I've got to say, Jack was one of the guys I've put in my prospects to watch this year. Jack's great for it. He just looks unbelievable, man.
Starting point is 01:20:53 He's a Goliath of a lightweight too. It's hard to believe he's only 27, man. He's an absolute monster of a dude. In his last fight, he bet the last guy who bet saw him back. he had a great performance against Perry Goodwin, who we saw Reese in there with again. I mean, I just think this guy is an absolute animal, and he's on a six-fight win streak.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I see Joy has a striking advantage. I mean, you can't not see that. The way he did that to Steve O'Keefe, one opportunity, and that's the way it's done, unbelievable. But I love this. It's a real style clash, and it's really, really, really, really good fight. Another fight, I love all these fights. Dean Truman v. Mads Burnell, man. Mads Burnell is another guy that's come back to Keigh.
Starting point is 01:21:33 age worries and looked like he's completely separated from the field. Like, he looks unbelievable. And Dean Truman is this guy, he's a consummate underdog, a guy who's putting the hard work. People who know the game know who Dean Truman is. And this is, like, I couldn't wait to see Sarum back in Dean Truman, but I think this is just as good a fight, man. You know, what happens if they, you know, everyone puts on a fucking barn burner here in these six fights and wins in impressive fashion? Tough. It's tough, man. Who do you sign? Like, that's it, you know? I think the UFC have got to be looking at Mads and Nicholas with that Copeland. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:22:07 I think they have to be. I don't think so. I mean, I think wins for them are especially big. I think, yeah, probably you're dead right, most of the, you know, the guys from around that region as well. As we work down on the card, there's also other things, and Graham Boylan mentioned this in the interview that we talked about in the interview that's upcoming in the show. When you've got guys like at middleweight and light heavyweight fighting for titles, they're immediately on the radar.
Starting point is 01:22:30 And that's a great time to speak about the Andy Townsend of Oversham. Mr. James Webb. His stock is going up over here, man. You can feel it in the Irish fan base. He's beginning to connect with them. And a win here over in a Toyas Frederick. He improves the 7 and 1. With that middleweight title wrapped around his race,
Starting point is 01:22:46 he's young. He's from the UK. You know, I think... He's not from Calchester anymore. He's from Swords, yes, from Team KF. But I just get the feeling with Webby that... Oh, Webby and all. Yeah, Webby, going with the Webby.
Starting point is 01:23:01 But I get the feeling that... that, you know, he's a guy that needs to be ready for the call up because at a middleweight when you have that title, you're very close. It could happen at the drop of a hat. But Natoy is Frederick there as well. Maybe you feel those Webb has to do something spectacular this weekend. He has, he's capable of it.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Like, I mean, you see fights getting away from James sometimes because he's so good in the ground, you find these unbelievable. You saw that. Yeah, when he won the title, of course. But I think that's a big one for him, man. It's a big one for Chris Fields, Tom King. all the guys down there and we'll be talking about another one of their fighters in a few minutes but
Starting point is 01:23:37 Sam Creasy at Flyweight do you worry like I mean for the Floyd weight we always remember Nathan Grayson beats Sam Creasy he gets the title and he leaves because he says look the UFC they don't have any plans for Floydway why do I keep killing myself to get down here? Well I don't have to do let's be honest about
Starting point is 01:23:53 it I think now it's it's did did anyway say what I think Dana White said he did and we always know he tells the truth he tells the truth there every week and you need fucking glasses specs out thing two for one I believe right listen no the flywates are gone as far as I'm concerned
Starting point is 01:24:09 you don't expect that Tim to like Creasy's class yeah I know I'm not I'm not saying that oh no no I know but when you're you know you're releasing guys like you know prospects the whole time obviously I think Shorty Torres has gone and like about six months ago was unbeaten you know
Starting point is 01:24:23 like you're not they're not going to sign you know if they're releasing but you know it's disappointing because I was always a massive advocate for the flyweight loved watching them there's a regular weekly take a shot now I don't think they actually hear this
Starting point is 01:24:37 you know that comes through but it doesn't matter but I do but yeah it's just frustrating for these guys I'm sure because you know I think every fighter's dream
Starting point is 01:24:46 is to get the UFC and when you're on a platform like this and then you know the UFC aren't signing any fly weights you're probably going to be looking at going to £135 lads I'm sorry but yeah
Starting point is 01:24:56 if you want to fight in the UFC it's going to be at 35 because they're not doing I think Scott Coker's really, you know, shit the bed as well. Again, by saying they're not interested in doing 125-pound division. And suddenly Ron Curtis can sell tickets in Dublin. And here's the fly weights. You know, there you go. But like, imagine them in a wealth of talent they could sign and create a division and build a really impressive quality division on. And they're turning their back on it. Absolutely ludicrous. In my opinion. But yeah, yeah, I'm just not sure.
Starting point is 01:25:30 the stakes will be as high in this title fight as it is for the other guys in terms of UFC trajectory. 205 title Martin Hamlet. This guy has been talked about by some of the best fighters in the world. I had vocal in Osnimir singing this guy's praises ahead of his last fight. Everybody in Scandinavia is going crazy by this guy. I think he's got something like 15 world honors in wrestling. He's 5 in O in MMA.
Starting point is 01:25:52 He's training with some of the best guys out there. And he's going to be put up against Modestus Becalcas, who is a savage striker. I feel like the way Hamlet's being talked about, he's, like, I mean, he's right there. You know, the way he's held in that esteem, and he's at 205 again. And Chris Field says he wants to challenge the winner of this one. Oh, UFC.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Come on. Copenhagen. Yeah. You think he goes to, Norwegian? Yeah, like a Norwegian, it makes sense, you know, to throw him on a Copenhagen card if he goes out and makes a statement. Like, there's a lot, as you said, on the line here for especially the Scandinavian guys, because literally it's, I think
Starting point is 01:26:29 there's, I knew a guy in college that lives down in Sweden and it's literally, I think, 20 minutes across the road to Copenhagen from where he was living. So that's, you know, it is. There's a lot of areas there that intertwine with the city of Cobain have. So, yeah, listen, bring it,
Starting point is 01:26:45 motherfuckers. Jason Radcliffe, who was previously fought James Webb, he lost, there's that phantom KO, a lot of people were very upset about against Hacken Foss. That's going to be a savage, another Scandinavian Hacken Foss always brings it. on fush. Ian Gary,
Starting point is 01:26:59 look, I've talked about this guy plenty. One in O really looks like he's the full, full, full package. It's James Sheehan he fought,
Starting point is 01:27:07 correct? Yes, James Sheehan in his debut, another great Irish prospect. To fight the way he did in his first professional fight with the biggest stage
Starting point is 01:27:14 of his life on Cage Warriors, I can't wait to see this guy back in there. Good matchmaking as well. Yeah, two and out. Yeah. No need to get excited here. Let the man learn his craft.
Starting point is 01:27:23 He looks like he knows plenty about it already, but my God, I can't wait to see him go again. Lewis Monarch and Morgan Cherrier is going to be a great fight, and Morgan Sherry against back at that time for the interim title, he looked brilliant as well. I really like that fight. That is that. Darren O'Gorman from Cork is taking on Adam Amersinger. Amersinger was considered one of the great prospects until he ran into Scott Malone. We know they need guys
Starting point is 01:27:47 at these weight classes. They need to beep up the Bantamweight division. Now that Jack Shore has gone, they need to start creating contenders. this is a good way for Darren O'Gorman, I believe Adam's really held in high esteem. I believe this is a good way for Darren to get himself on that radar. Is that fight taking place at 1-25 or 135? Says 125.
Starting point is 01:28:09 125? I would have thought 135, but I would have as well. But however, you're going to need some contenders if you're going to crown a champion, I guess. That's true. Alex Lahore v. Aaron Khalid. That's a great fight. That is a cracking fight. It is, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:23 And obviously, Reese McKee was having a bit of beef, but La Jollauree a few weeks ago on Twitter said he turned down a fight against Rees, so that was an interesting one. Yeah, I mean, and this is no disrespect to Aaron, because he's very well supported in Wales and that. But Alex's logic in that he didn't fight Reese because he doesn't have a big enough name compared to this. It's ludicrous. Yeah, I don't think that's accurate.
Starting point is 01:28:45 And he actually publicly said that on Twitter, so you can go check that out. Mad stuff all together from Lahore. Alex is a weird one. You never really know. It's a very good fighter, though. He is a good fighter, but you never know what you're going to get. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:28:59 That is true. You'll always get the sunglasses in the interview afterwards. That's all I want. But, yeah, listen, a nice guy, but yeah, that was a weird comment to make. Is this the most ambitious Cage Warriors card like you've ever seen? Like, given the amount of titles they're thrown on the line here. Probably, yeah, well, the amount of titles that are on the line there, yeah, I don't think you can argue with that. You know, obviously, I think, you know, BT Unplugged was a pretty...
Starting point is 01:29:21 Cool project, yeah. ...a project as well. so yeah it's definitely up there man and I'm looking forward to to seeing it I'm not sure I'm going to be able to watch it live I'll be able to watch half of it live in the office on Saturday but yeah listen I'll be definitely watch me anyway 100%
Starting point is 01:29:35 I'll face time yeah the PTC stream or whatever they call it these days the redcast but I'll be in control with that weekend but um look there was no one else I could speak to that is more prevalent in the lead up to this fight than Mr. Graham Boyland is a cracker month he is he never fails to deliver
Starting point is 01:29:50 I love this my house and shit he's an absolute legend really wrong was that. But yeah, look, we love a bit of rivalry. We're not going to show you away from it. It's brilliant.
Starting point is 01:29:58 It's what, fire bills, fire, fighter breeds, fire, dragons, you know, fight dragons, all that's,
Starting point is 01:30:02 well, that's, something like that. Um, big fishes are whales. But I think one of the best, the most interesting things he said here was that he believes that there's four or five guys could potentially get signed out of here. And you know,
Starting point is 01:30:13 you don't hear Graham saying that that often, you know, like here's five of my fighters could be going. That says to me that he's obviously had chats with Sean Schell. Oh yeah. One of them and on, you know, who you're looking out for, who we're watching here,
Starting point is 01:30:24 who's good. He wouldn't admit that to me, though. Yeah, he's not going to go and say that, but you know, at the end of the day, you know, the UFC aren't complaining with some of the guys that have, you know, shipped in from Cage where he's probably the most successful. I don't want to say feeder promotion. I think it is in Europe. Like, I mean, who else has 90 odd fighters
Starting point is 01:30:40 that have gone from there to there? So listen, I'm sure Sean Shelby's going to be on to him the whole time. And, yeah, Sean Shelby and Mick Maynard could do the set of European glasses, in my opinion, so. They definitely could, couldn't he? Now a good lad that works for cage warriors. I know a good fighter as well called
Starting point is 01:30:55 Brendan Lachlan. Oh, it's never going to stop. But look, we'll get on to, we'll give you the Graham Boylan interview now. Brilliant stuff. Very entertaining, as always. Always welcome here is the corkman. I'm looking forward to seeing him on the weekend, and we will back to you in about 10. And now, as promised, we are joined by Mr. El Presente himself, Mr. Graham Boylan,
Starting point is 01:31:18 the head of cage warriors, who I believe is putting on one of the most ambitious cards in the history of the promotion this weekend. And I think that's a good place to start, Graham. I mean, is this Cage Warriors 106, 9 of Champions? Do you feel like this is the biggest card Cage Warriors have put on in your history? I don't think in the history of us doing shows together, Ian and I, could possibly put on a bigger show than what we're doing Saturday night. I think it's an iconic show, one for the history books,
Starting point is 01:31:47 in an iconic venue, in a venue that hasn't hosted MMA, before and it's got that title lie from the Apollo which I believe adds that little bit of icing to the cake absolutely I can't wait to see it myself and one of the things that I guess is standing out of this is the six title fights I mean that's just absolutely massive but I was wondering how you feel about it because it's something that we we don't often ask you it's just completely presumed but how do you feel about that the whole line that the Cage Warriors titles are seen as the golden ticket to the UFC. Is that something that you're comfortable with hearing
Starting point is 01:32:23 or how do you feel about that? We embrace it, man. It's something that we know, we know where we fit. We know what happens when guys get those belts and we know we've done a good job to actually guide guys if they've been in the organization
Starting point is 01:32:38 and had the last five or six fights with us. And they're on the roster. We've kind of guided them to that belt. And when guys can go out there, go in there and talk, take the win and move on to the next step, take the win, move on to the next step. The path is there for them to go all the way to that bigger show. And, you know, it's no secret.
Starting point is 01:32:58 That big a show is the UFC. And we're quite comfortable in the fact that what we do is a legitimate process, you know. We build stars. They go on and become bigger stars. So we're happy with that. We embrace it. I've never heard anyone debated or anything like that. But I was just wondering, have you ever heard of a,
Starting point is 01:33:18 a different promotion in Europe being able to kind of command that same history that you guys have. I believe Jack Shaw was the 94th guy signed, right? Like, I mean, that's a hell of a number. Yeah. I don't believe there is. I would like to think we know everything about our market and our game and the territories that we work in.
Starting point is 01:33:37 I don't believe there's somebody else that can say that. No, I agree, I agree. I was just seeing in case you had anyone niggling into your mentions there ever on this kind of stuff, you know what I mean? I think we're safe with that one. Okay, okay. I mean, it is, like, as we said, 91 fighters have gone from Cage Warriors to the UFC. Do you believe that there is a good possibility that we can see 92 at the weekend?
Starting point is 01:34:02 Do you believe that, you know, one of these guys who wins at the weekend out of these six total fights could be on that radar already? And people are just waiting for that one more win at Cage Warriors 106? I think you could possibly see in the coming four to five weeks based off the back of the results on Saturday night I think you could see 92, 3, 4 and 5 Well That's that's what I feel you could see Because if you look at the divisions
Starting point is 01:34:31 That these fights are in And you look at the divisions of the UFC I see no reason why A minimum of 92, 93, 94 could happen in the coming weeks. How does that work? Do you tell the guys that this is riding on this, or do you just feel they know that? Because I
Starting point is 01:34:49 know it, like fans know it. If you get that belt, you are on the radar. Do you specifically tell these guys, look, this one is particularly big for you, or do you just let it play out, however it's going to play out? I don't feel that they need that added pressure. We just sit back and let the fight happen.
Starting point is 01:35:07 But between Ian and I, internally, you know, We know we would have a good idea going into the event who we think's going to be holding the belt for seven or eight days and handing it back in 10 days time. That must be a lovely problem for Ian to have as a matchmaker. Yeah, he's just got to go find another champion and we found 97 of them, right? Right, yeah. I suppose he has a good history in that demand. But the one story that's really kind of.
Starting point is 01:35:41 stood out and there are so many good stories. But the one that is really standing out for me is Nicholas Dalby, the fact that he has come home basically. He has come back to the place that put him on the radar first, that put him on the international radar. Like, I can remember Dalby's first room with Cage Warriors. And I feel like he was probably like the next big champion after Connemer Greger. I'm sure you could think of many more names. But that's just the way it fell for me at the time. The fact that he's kind of said he had these mental health. He's, health issues, he's come back. He stumbled at the first hurdle against Pettersolle.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Then he tags on wins against Philmell Peter and Alex Lahore and here he is again trying to get that welterweight title back. And of course UFC Copenhagen's in September and a lot of people believe that he should be the first name on the card if he has his hand raised here.
Starting point is 01:36:32 I mean, have you been, what's it been like working with Dalby, like? Because he's an interesting guy, right? He's a real individual. Yeah. Dalby's, first of he's an amazing person, and secondly, he's an incredible athlete. A big impact on why he wasn't in the UFC to date. To turn that around, come back, step into those shoes again,
Starting point is 01:36:57 and do it all again, and be back in that position again. That's got to be the most admirable thing you can see from any guy, you know? That's the sign of a true champion. That's the sign of a guy that's been knocked down and excuse the point here. that's a guy that's lived the Rocky the Rocky quotes, you know, he's been knocked down, he's got back up and he's kept walking forward and here he is again
Starting point is 01:37:19 fighting for that belt, you know? So for me, that's a phenomenal place to be, but he ain't got an easy fight in Ross Houston. Ross Houston doesn't know what defeat is. He's not, no, he's a tough, tough guy. He's huge as well. He's an absolute monster of a dude, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:36 He's big for the weight. He can take he can take a lot of punishment as we saw in the paternal fight when he won the belt. Absolutely. So, you know, that fight, like everyone said to us
Starting point is 01:37:50 when we were doing the order for that fight, you know, and there's other people involved and it's like, why isn't we going and wait to order for these fights? And it's like,
Starting point is 01:37:59 even the Royal World Title fights, this is the fight that has that spark. This is the fight that has to talk. This is the one that's, there's so much writing on this fight. You know, I have to be the main event. It kind of, for me, it kind of shows the value of cage warriors as well.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Like, let's be honest, Nicholas could have went anywhere after the UFC. He's a stunning fighter to watch. He is a big name. He could have went anywhere, but he went back to you guys. Like, does that mean something to you as well? Yes, it does. You know, and, you know, we have a very strong, we have a strong relationship with Nicholas. You know, we've been together since 2011, maybe 2012.
Starting point is 01:38:36 We've seen them rise. We've seen them before. seen him rise again and we've been there for him the entire time. So we're happy to help him back and give him the platform that he's wanted and we're truly happy that he gave us the opportunity to have him back, you know? He could have gone to other organizations and just taking money fights. But that's not him. That's not his character. He wants to be where the best in the world are competing. And if you're going to go back and take money fights and other organizations, then you're not competing against the best of the world in the best place in the world. And he's
Starting point is 01:39:08 that type of character. you know and like i said to swing this white back and keep the 50 50 ross is the same ross wants to be at the best place in the world where he can be and he wants to fight the best in the world so there's so much debating and back and forth out of this main event spot on a night of champions in such a historic event there's a six there's five other world title fights there so you know it's giving you guys a ton of ton of content to choose from the right about yeah nearly too much to be honest with you Brian, but we won't get into that.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Sorry, my apologies. My apologies. But, um, but, uh, I, I can stupid point in a game. I don't, I don't want to press you on this too much, but a lot of people kind of have talked about the, the back and forth, uh, between yourself and Mike Cogan and John Kavanaugh online. Like, a lot of people believe that Bellator and Cage Warriors are competing for this market right now. I mean, do you feel that way or like, would you rather not comment on the, on the relationship between Bellator and CageWorse?
Starting point is 01:40:09 I know who one of those names is. I've no comment on him. But who's the other name? Who's Mike. What's his name? Mike Cogan. Who's he? He is the main guy there at Bellator.
Starting point is 01:40:20 You know, he's the matchmaker. Is he? I've never even fucking heard of his name, mate. But anyway, that shows my interest in Fokitor. So, you know, there's not a lot I can fucking comment on that. But no, they're of absolutely no threat to what we do whatsoever, you know? The guys on our organization want to be fighting against and competing against the best athletes in the world. You know, the guys fighting on the other organization, they're there for the paychecks.
Starting point is 01:40:57 They're there for, you know, a lot of those fights are handpicked opponents. And another said name in this conversation is one of the guys who's handpicking opponents for his guys. So, you know, that's not really our sport. it's not what we do. They call it a developmental game. It's more like, here's your money, here's your win,
Starting point is 01:41:15 and I think the fights are handpicked. So it's not the type of path that Cage Warriors will ever go down. Yes, of course. And with Bellator being there, of course they can't compete with you in terms of getting further to the UFC. I don't think they can even argue that at all.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Did you, by any chance, see the online reaction to the broadcast issues yesterday today? I know that Cage Warriors has pride itself, on its broadcast over the years. Did you see any of that? I'm not online a great deal these days. Pete,
Starting point is 01:41:46 see, I kind of stay away from it. I let, I've got a, how will I say it? I've got no filter when I go online and start fucking wrong. So people to hold your phone on you? Pete,
Starting point is 01:42:02 did I either take my phone out of me or they won't mention stuff to me one of the other? Because I have no problem in jumping on and speaking my mind. So I tend to stay away. it upsets too many people when I go on there. Right, right. Well, I'll draw a line in that and get back to this card because it is absolutely astronomical. Like, I mean, when you're looking at the names here, I mean, every single one of these fights is a guy that's ready for the UFC there. I mean, we've talked about Houston and Dalby at length, but Jack Grant finally getting a shot at the lightweight title, but it's no
Starting point is 01:42:28 easy road against Joey Herbert, man. He has looked incredible since he's coming on the Cage Warriors banner. Obviously, a legendary cage writer is for, like, Dean Truman taking on Mads Burnell as well. you've got the Andy Townsend of Irish MMA as Chris Feas called him James Webb of Team KF taking on the toy as Frederick, Sam Creasy going for that flyweight belt against Samir Fadeen and I hugely talked about guy from Scandinavia here in the first title fight in Martin Hamlet. I mean I've heard Ouzdemeir and loads of guys in the UFC
Starting point is 01:43:00 already saying this guy is ready but I mean outside of Houston and Dalby is there one out there that's jumping out to you? It's a very difficult question I know because each of them has their own merits but is there any one of them there that you're particularly looking forward to in the in the title fights um they've all got their own narratives right and so i mean come come title fight time on night of champions i am firmly going to be looking for a seat to watch you know i'm going to just hope that there's just absolutely nothing for me to do but sit down and be a fan and watch these fights because from Hamlet to Medescus,
Starting point is 01:43:40 Zemir, Creasy, Webb, Frederick, Bernel, Truman, Grant Herbert, and then into Dalby, Houston. I mean, that's a fight fan's dream, watching those fights, you know? And to watch them live,
Starting point is 01:43:56 knowing what we know about them, and I haven't watched their stories come through. It's six fights, so I'm really looking forward to sitting there and watching. You know, when you come kind of get done with these events how do you measure if there's success or not like i mean is there a way you can tell um do you even care once once you've done you've kind of put on the event do you even kind of care about what kind of traction it gets and stuff like this or how do you feel about it well
Starting point is 01:44:22 we're on to the next show it's just it's it's a it's a it's a show that's done it's dusted i watch it the next day um it's usually my routine to watch it the next season and when i go home um and then for us we're on to the next show you know it's it's it's in the books it's done it's dusted um and we we let the fans and the journalists like yourself we let you guys decide what it was because you get at the end of the day you're the guys writing about it you're the guys to follow it so we put it on we knock them down you guys write about it and you guys say what it was good or bad so um for us we we move on to the next fight we're on to the next event but you got you got to admit you have a good feeling about this you've got to have a good feeling about
Starting point is 01:45:05 this one yeah of course i mean we always any show we we go into we have a good feeling about but once it's done it's done graham thank you so much it's been an absolute pleasure i love having you on i love getting you on before these big events and i really can't wait to be over there in london on saturday night man i'm so excited for this good you look forward to seeing you man thank you so much i'll speak to you again soon bye bye bye bye we'll see it the weekend take care buddy all the best And thank you for those quotables, Graham Boylan. I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of tweets about that one. Some good lines and, you know, maybe things that we've employed in the past.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Well, things we're still unsure about, we've asked questions about. So some maybe answers that probably we need a little bit more. We're talking about the Bellator thing, yeah. So it's going to be interesting. and listen, great card, really good interview. Enjoy that one, Psy, and what a man is Graham Boylan. It's, uh, he's like... Shamey some cork, though, as I said.
Starting point is 01:46:07 He's like a Bond villain. He's like, isn't he? Him and him and Martin Lewandowski, like, two Bond villains. That's a great way out. That's a great way. That is in mind. Someone said that to me before, and I was like, that's the aisle of the head. They should do it was Alan Murphy.
Starting point is 01:46:18 Cage Warriors versus Kastoleon. Oh, man. Imagine that. But this, let's be honest. I'm going to take you out. No, no, you're not. It's Martin V. Graham in the main event. No, you're not.
Starting point is 01:46:28 but uh... take the point he will buy this uh... this fight card's unbelievable I really can't wait like I'm genuinely you're gonna be over at it as well yeah I am it'd be good to be there
Starting point is 01:46:38 obviously an iconic cage warriors arena as well so yeah all sweet shit like this is the first time they've done it in the Apollo oh is that I thought they've done in the Apollo yeah big down in the Apollo you know I think not done it there before I don't think so no they've usually used the um
Starting point is 01:46:51 the copper box in London copper box that's what I was thinking of yeah I just want to before we get on to our usual segments, Tinder and whatnot. I know you don't have a mustache anymore, right? I know you don't. I'm not happy about it. It's happened and that's the way it goes.
Starting point is 01:47:06 Are we going back there again? No, no, I just want one. It's too itchy. But I just wanted to say, at one stage, just after you shaved it off, Ben Cartlidge told me that he had a fantastic mustache and deserves to be recognized. You said it's not a mustache. Is it? Right, right. It's fair enough.
Starting point is 01:47:23 You can all grow beards. What do you think of that? There you go. I'm just showing Noel a picture of. That is Ben Carletchardich from many moons ago with a fabulous mustache. Yeah, well, that's, that was damn. Where would you grade that, though? I mean, on the scale.
Starting point is 01:47:36 That is pretty good. That is pretty hardcore, isn't it? Yeah, pretty about the hair. Look, his hair is fantastic. He's a fantastic man. Yeah, he's a good deal, Ben. And a fine cup of tea there in front of him, is all. Yeah, he's that sort of, he's that guy, he knows how to make a good cup of tea and a fry up.
Starting point is 01:47:47 I'd say, yeah, geez, I'd say, Brad Wharton as well. Brad Warren. Brad Warren. Brad Warren said he's going to make me a Scotch Egg this weekend. Brad Wharton, he's going to start giving me some fank. No, don't bother, Brad. He's a horrible person. Did you see him there in that picture about it?
Starting point is 01:48:00 That bloody giant castle in somewhere in Cheshire. It put McGraw manners to shame. He's like, holy, mother of God. He's got. This guy, he comes across as a rogue half the time, and he's there having fucking cucumber sandwiches and salmon sandwiches and tea parties in the garden with a lot of old ones. Fair play to Brad.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Jesus Christ. See it at the weekend. Bag of cans, though. It was impressive. Right, yeah. A bag of cans to a tea party. He's 100%, man. He is 100%.
Starting point is 01:48:25 But what I wanted to ask you about is something that you said to me just briefly between segments there. You told me you delete Twitter, but yes, you have somebody texting you, provoking your sexual arousal. She always, I'm not joking, I always do. Tell us what's going on. What's going on? Like tenors are shit. Have you found the one yet? No.
Starting point is 01:48:44 I think this girl who's texting you eagerly at the moment. I think she could be the one. No, I don't think so. I think an American girl is going to be one. I've always said that. I've always got on better an American girl. she's on Tinder I think American girls are
Starting point is 01:49:01 where I should be looking American woman Stay away from me Yeah I think so American woman You've had success in the States like I mean I feel like you've done your best work in the States
Starting point is 01:49:12 Definitely have Yeah Why is that? I just think maybe the girls They'll always give you a chance No matter how good looking there I think they'll give you at least a minute Normally sometimes here
Starting point is 01:49:21 What card do you drive Well that's your problem mate Come on out and drinking Blanche for a weekend that's true. I reckon I clean up in those sort of areas. You have five kids. Why do we get us over? You peasants. Someone's going to shoot me from Blanche one of these days.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Me probably, but you know, I love you actually. You're one of ours now as far as I'm concerned. You know, I was at a party on Friday, my beautiful friend Mark. He's the last, he's the youngest in the group. He turned 30. And my mates were just telling me how much they love you. It breaks my heart. They love me. They were like, oh. He'd be cleaning my shoes next week. Make sure
Starting point is 01:49:51 you're asking about 10 that next week. But, yeah, it was great night I had with the boys. He'd be cleaning my shoes next week. I clean them every week. That's how I pay him for them. I lick the bottom of them. That is true. But yeah, it hurts me that they like you. I'm not that hateable. I'm not that innocent. I'm certainly not. You're definitely innocent of everything. You are yeah, you're in your fucking whatever, Blanche. Oh, I wanted to say as well, Barry Oglesby packing in the MMA. Yeah, so do you shit, man. Yeah, look, I just want to say that, you know, I just want to say that, you know I was trying to cover this push for regulation for a long time and it was
Starting point is 01:50:29 incredibly difficult to get Emma to speak to me and Barry always had always always came out and Andy man always came out and spoke from the heart spoke the truth and I really appreciate him like I really I really had no other way of covering that story and now of course they're always asking us when we haven't been covering it well it was because we couldn't actually do it in the first place but Barry wasn't part of the problem there was Andy Ryan they've always been brilliant and those guys have put together the high performance training situation
Starting point is 01:50:57 and they've done a lot and Barry deserves a lot more credit than he gets as far as I'm concerned and he's had some great prospects there in MMA I wonder what's going to happen to the looks of Nathan Kelly and you know Austin Lynch over there has been great fighters so I wonder what's going to go on with them I'm sure Barry has that
Starting point is 01:51:13 sorted out anyway but thanks very much Barry Ogles yeah yeah big time Barry well done obviously you know judged as well oh my fucking hand he's more famous for being similar looking to Baz Root and anything else. He does, doesn't he looks like
Starting point is 01:51:27 Big Al-Baz. He does. But now he's a great jih Tzu Coach. You've been Fingles or Glass in Evan area. Make sure you pop into Q's O'Gim. I've done it many times.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Of course I battered everyone, but let's not get into that. Best way, she's Barry. Yeah, all the best and thanks so much. Well, that's everything I've got. I mean, do you have anything else to add this weekend?
Starting point is 01:51:47 Is Paul Pogby going to leave Manchester United? Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully, hopefully. Yeah, I'm liking this this Christian Erickson talk, to be honest is that really happening from sports? There's a little,
Starting point is 01:51:55 bit of talk about Christian Erickson. Apparently his deal from Real Madrid fell through. So there's a lot of talk of him coming into Manchester United. He wants to ruin his career as well. That's amazing. Yeah, a lot of players do these days. If the money's there, they'll just go, they'll do anything. They're mercenaries. So, you've Wanbasaka as well. It's probably going to come in this week. Actually, you... Who's Juan Basaka? He plays for Crystal Palace
Starting point is 01:52:13 right back. 50 million pounds. They're talking about, you know, the world's gone mad. But a very good player, I do like Wanbasagga. He's going to be a big success to United. Still lots of worrying times. That clown, Edward is still running the transfers. and basically running the club, which is more concerning than probably even Paul Pogg
Starting point is 01:52:29 with being at the club. I like Paul Pogba. I think he's the best player in the team. He's an absolute disgrace. He's not that in his friend. Terrible, terrible human being. Jesus Christ. I think he's a great dancing.
Starting point is 01:52:41 He's lovely hair. But yeah, that's everything we've got. I don't want to fully crank up Noel's rage levels because we already had a lot with the Bellator London thing and the Brennan-R-N-A-N-thing. He has to sleep at some stage.
Starting point is 01:52:52 He's going to take seven hours to wind down. Literally just as we were finished that brand anything is when I really sort of got angry. That's when you were a peak. You know what I should have on? I probably should have done a Facebook live last week and just rant it for an hour about everything that went on. You know, I don't know if you come in with those Psy Carol numbers,
Starting point is 01:53:06 80,000 views. But whatever he's want, you know what I mean? That's what I'm here for. But I love you, Noel, and it's fantastic to speak to you. I don't know what next week is Arangerman's going to be. Where are you? I'm back. Like, late Sunday night, like lay.
Starting point is 01:53:21 I might try and get the interviews done at Cage Warriors and then have it ready, pre-package for you. I'm ready to go. I'll see what the crack is. You know me. We'll start something now. Yeah, we'll do something. Well, thanks very much for being a beautiful host.
Starting point is 01:53:32 And I hope you grow your mustache back. And I hope you don't delete Tinder. Peace in the Middle East. Oh, fuck it's all. Love you.

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