MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 47 (w/ Jack Hermansson, Johnny Walker)
Episode Date: August 6, 2019On the latest episode of Eurobash, Jack Hermansson (12:20) previews his pivotal middleweight clash with Jared Cannonier in the main event of UFC Copenhagen and Johnny Walker (42:00) underlined why he ...thinks he deserves a title date with Jon Jones should he get through Corey Anderson at UFC 244. Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath look at the latest European MMA headlines. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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We are back, episode 47 of Yorobash, and as you can see, I'm completely healthy after that stag holiday I went on last weekend.
my voice has been a little bit, let's say, obscured by the events of the weekend, but I'm here to do it anyway.
What's that from, Petez?
I'd say it's just from singing and dancing and laughing my way through the night.
Possibly could be something to do with the six hours sleep I had over the five days.
But nonetheless, I'm here as always, because I love you people.
And I'm here to deliver the best, and that's exactly what we'll do.
How are you, Noel McGrath?
I'm good, man, yeah.
I'm better than you, by all accounts, from the way you sound.
but you're actually looking fresher than I expected.
It's just your voice.
Yeah, it's a pain of the arse of the voice.
It's so annoying.
I'm the only one with a whole lot of them that the voice has gone.
And it's just God's way of ruining me because he knows I had the podcast when I came like.
My voice went after Porto as well.
I was staying on for a few days.
I was totally hoarse.
Same as yourself there.
Yeah, it was basically whispering when I got off the plane yesterday.
When we made's was like, oh, we have to book another taxi.
I was like, yeah, fine.
He's like, why are you whispering?
And I was like, no, that's me shouting.
This is me shouting at you.
Is your throat sore?
No, it's actually all right.
It's just annoying, as you can probably hear.
Good, good old city is Prague.
Yeah, beautiful.
So many sights and wonders, things that we saw over the weekend.
Fell in love with the city, really.
Yeah, that's a cool place you were telling me all about.
Like, you brought some of those brochures as well, like the places you saw amazing.
Amazing, yeah.
Me, beside all the historical landmarks.
The might-robore.
We were like, do you know, that the coach trip when all the lads and L ones on a bus,
that's basically us for the week.
Nothing superlative wild.
whatsoever of course.
I'd imagine so, yeah.
Let's look at these headlines.
Did you, where's the, where's that music for the headlines?
Yeah, well, we'll put it in.
Did you not do that, no?
I'd put it in.
My back is killing me in McGrath.
I can't put it in.
My back is killing me.
From, from Harvard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.
Good one, go on.
Right, let's go.
GSP, close the door on the Kabeep fight.
Direct quote, being the best fire in the world is not my priority anymore.
That was with TSN, our good man, Aaron Bronstater.
What do you think of that?
Do you take that face value?
Is he done?
No.
I don't think...
I can't ever think anyone's done.
I can't until he...
A GSP came back against Baseping.
Totally out of the blue, really.
I don't think anyone expects to come back.
It's true.
Obviously relinquishes title after he beat Baseping.
So who knows?
The guy just comes back for big fights
and big title fights and I'm not real on that one.
I definitely not pizza.
Derek Lewis and Blago Ivanov are going to fight
at MSG at USC 244
in November.
That's a good fight for Blagoe, to be honest.
I know I probably favour Lewis, but
I don't think Blagoe is beyond that win, to be honest.
He's a tough man and he can bang.
Yeah, it's one of those ones you can see going either way.
You can see someone landing leather and knocking.
Could be earlier.
It could be a bit of a slug, yeah.
Brunson getting his, not Brunson.
Lewis getting his ass kick for three rounds,
and then last three seconds plant a bomb like Derek Lewis does
because his balls are hot.
His balls are so hot, man.
Ukraine's Marionie Morose
is out of our August 17th showdown
with Pollyanna Botella at UFC
241.
That's an unfortunate one for Marion to miss out on
but undisclosed injury
as far as far from the card.
SBG's Brad Gatona will take on Hunter Azure
and Sergei Kandosko
will take on the Brazilian highlight reel
Michael Pereira who he saw defeat
Danny Roberts in his debut
that's going to happen at UFC Vancouver
on September 14th.
Also on that card,
Marvin Vittoria stepped in to replace David Branch.
He's going to take on Andrew Sanchez.
Former KSW champion, Ariane Lipski,
will try to get her first UFC win
when she takes on Priscilla Cachewara
at UFC South Paulo on November 16th.
And one of my prospects of 2019
to watch out for Carl Albrexson has signed for Bellator.
I mean, that's a great move with their link
with Ryzen there.
He's obviously competing in Ryzen on a number of occasions,
so I feel like that's a good shout.
Carlo Pettersolli has announced
that he has signed for Bellator.
Tor after his three-fights stint with the UFC.
I think that's another good move as well,
given that Bellator so prevalent lately, you know?
Yeah, definitely.
Milan show announced.
Yes, absolutely.
And just for that Milan show, actually,
Melvin Manoff will take on
Team Renegades, Yanik Bahaddy,
Alessio Saccara will take on
Kane and Grubsky, and
Raphael Carvalio will make his
Lloyd Heavyweight debut against Vadim Nemcoff.
That's all going down on Milan,
as we said, on October 12th.
So that's the newest headlines.
I probably miss.
a few because I was out of action.
Some talking points up before we get on
with the first interview today.
Cobby Covington, you are tweeting a lot about this over the weekend.
Fantastic.
Yeah, brilliant, brilliant fight, no doubt about it.
Has he gone too far with this Matt Hughes talk, I guess,
is the line that a lot of people seem to be saying.
It was quite shocking.
When we were in a tiny bar,
watching on phones at the main event.
And after it, I got my phone,
and I saw Ariel's tweet where he said,
what Covington said and I passed around a table
and all the boys' jaws
hit the floor. You wonder
though what Colby was that, you know, pre
rehearsed, did he get a blessing beforehand
to make a little bit of joke of it? Because Matt Hughes
came out and post something online very soon
after. You know, he does play
the heel thing. He's been a pro wrestler
before. You know, he
stumbled his words a little bit when he said MSG
which was a bit cringe. So
you know, sort of says to me maybe he had a
blessing for Matthews. I don't know. This is me just
just obviously speculating. But yeah,
you know, if it wasn't a prior blessing,
it was a terrible, terrible thing to say.
Yeah, it's a terrible thing to say as well,
but I saw some of the reaction,
like people holding up,
Matt Hughes, like he's this Jesus,
like, I mean, the guy, the guys has a very patchy record
away from the Octagon, let's say.
So, yeah, I didn't really, yeah, okay,
you shouldn't probably say something like that,
but I don't think Matt Hughes is,
other people have said stuff about, you know,
other guys who've had records.
I think it's just people are getting themselves,
a little bit clouder with their judgment.
Like, you know, even if you look at a, you know,
what's his face fight in a couple of weeks ago,
light heavyweight, former NFL player.
What's his name?
Your big fan of his, Greg Hardy.
Greg Hardy.
Yeah, you love him.
Yeah, he's, like that.
Him and Colby are your favourite fighters.
But listen, Colby, in terms of what he said, man,
he's always looking for eyes.
People were biting debate again on Saturday night,
tweeting. You should have seen it.
And listen, you know, Colby Covington and Camar Usman
were trending here in Dublin on Twitter, which was brilliant.
I just think it shows you how much interest.
this guy's gain, the much traction he has now at the moment.
Listen, man, it's, you know, if you're taking this shit seriously,
the Caldby comes out and said, you're a bigger idiot.
Because that's what he wants to do.
It's hilarious.
I saw some people saying, like, can we stop talking about playing heel?
Because this is M.M.A.
But that's actually what he's doing.
That's what he's doing.
If you think this is what Caldby Coffin is like, when he sees his mom and dad,
you're mentally.
He's a great guy.
I've shot him to, obviously, off air a load of times.
Tell us how you really feel, Noel.
He's he did invite me to his sex party.
No, listen to me, you know, he's been in TNA before.
he's actually competed in TNA with the ATT guys.
So, yeah, listen, making what you want.
You're a bigger clown if you're going to take all this personally and stuff.
He's putting eyes on himself and he's done it.
And you've the Trump's as well, Donald Trump tweeting about him and recall him afterwards as well.
I can see this.
I can see, like I saw Casey Lloyd and then some other people talking about.
People who are in US are going to have a way better understanding of the vibrations this is going to cause.
I do feel that's going to be a Kabeeb McGregor cell, you know, a controversy, you know,
with everything that's going on with the states.
Like this is exactly what we're talking about
for a long time of Colby and
Ferguson Missouri native Tyrone Woodley.
We knew it was going to press a lot of buttons
and I think it's clear that those buttons will be pressed
and maybe then we will be talking about,
okay, this has gone too far.
With the political structure that's in place
in the United States, as you just said,
there with Donald Trump,
with all the people obviously hating against them
and the, you know, the accusations made against him
and what kind of person he is, yes,
Of course it will.
I will put eyes on...
I'm not talking about putting eyes.
I'm talking about it stirring up a lot of emotions.
Oh yes, it will.
It will.
And I think that's why the eyes will be put on
because the emotions have been stirred.
Yeah, it's interesting enough.
I actually saw Tommy Tohold talking about this.
He isn't quite the draw that, you know,
that we feel he is, you know?
Me and you talking about him, we feel like he's getting these so many eyes.
They compared his post-fight interview,
which was huge, like really, which felt big at the time,
to other interviews that happen this year
and it's still way below it
where in terms of what
like USA's YouTube say like the big
interviews of the year
Nunesz, Masvedal, all these people
he's like half of the traction
that they're getting you know
so I still think it's a
it's a developing brand you know
but I do feel I agree with you
if they make Usman thing in New York
at MSG be absolutely mental
and I think as well
as you said there
a bit of work in progress I think
you know you've done
Trump, you've a son there, you've the
two Trump signs... Look at a smile on your face when you
mention Donald Trump's name. Sitting there.
Massive fan of his as well, I'd say.
Listen, the two sons were sitting there,
the daughter was sitting there. When you've people
like that going to your events, you've Donald Trump tweeting
about it, that is going to put eyes on you.
Are you looking for an invite to the White House? I am, of course
I am. Sounds like it.
All right, Chris Seiborg. Chris Seiburg
has been cut from the UFC,
and to be fair,
she admitted that our production team had falsified
down a statement in the video release. And I
knew that was something fishy about that because when you
watch it they have in brackets
as in, oh, because I was lying.
And you don't see him say it. And I was like, that is
a weird cut. That is a very strange
cut to put words in his mouth like that.
And I'd say that's probably why
he said, you know what? Strada broke the
camel's back. These two have had
serious problems since the
get-go, since even before the gecko.
So I think it's probably the best thing to do.
Let's get rid of it. Let's just go and
go our separate ways. I think they were going to
make the fight. And I think the reason why, you
Now, Dane is going to say things that he doesn't mean at times, as he said in that piece.
I think that's the part where...
He didn't say things he didn't mean.
What I think he was saying, he goes, oh, you have to say things.
To promote a fight?
He has to say things to keep both so it's happy, basically.
So sometimes he's not able to say this is happening, this is what's happening.
He's playing a weird balancing act.
But I think she should understand as a fighter that a promoter sometimes has to says things that he doesn't mean in order to promote the fight.
So I don't see anything wrong with that.
And I think her exposing that really obviously was the final nail on the coffin.
But for both them.
Yeah, I don't think, I don't think it's fair to say that she should just understand it,
given the amount of the shit that she's had with the UFC.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, it's not just like maybe if it was another fighter who had never had a bad issue with them
and it happened, then you can go, oh yeah, fair enough.
I think she's going to be big business wherever she goes.
And I can imagine it's going to be Bellator that Julia Budd fight.
Yeah, no, yeah, you'd imagine Bellator going to go after her now, as you said there.
But, yeah, listen, you know, I think it's, I'm disappointed.
that I would like to see the Nunez rematch.
I would have.
Yeah, it would have been huge
for a Nunes and Soybar,
but these things happen
and to be honest,
it's been such a mess.
It's probably the good thing.
It has. It has been a mess.
All right, let's move on
to our first interview of the day.
I caught up on one of the breakout stars
of the sport in 2019,
the fighting pro to Sweden, Norway,
and Scandinavian general.
It's Mr. Jack Hermanson,
who takes on Jared Kahn here
in the main event of the U.S.C. Copenhagen
on September 28.
Great stuff here from Jack.
And, you know,
we kind of said when this fight was announced,
been looking for a Gasselma or Romero, he comes off with a Cairneur.
Was he a bit annoyed about that?
What do you think?
I'd imagine so, yeah, I haven't heard the interview, but yeah, you would think so.
But listen, as we said about Jared Carnier, you know, he went into Arnold's backyard,
where you like it or not, he stopped Anderson Silva.
Yeah, but it was injury.
Without a doubt, Hermanson has everything to lose in that fight, you know?
He does, he does.
But, look, we got his thoughts.
Jack was very open, as always, gave us a great interview, so we'll be back in about 15.
And now, as promised, we are joined by the man who is going to headline that UFC Copenhagen card at the end of September against Jared Kahneneer.
Mr. Jack Hermanson.
First of all, Jack, how are you, my friend?
Very fine, thank you.
Had a great summer so far.
Yeah, getting ready to fight.
Yes, and of course you're going to look to add to that amazing four-fight run you're on at the moment.
But, you know, it makes perfect sense for you to headline this card.
How happy are you that that's finally official?
now I know we already knew it, but just to have that fight in place, it's only been made official in the last week.
Yeah, it's great to have it official, you know, so we can talk openly about it.
And, you know, it's been some basketball since a while back.
And, you know, finally, the fans are, know, know what they will get, you know, there will be a lot of talk.
It's going to be me and gasoline or whoever, but now they know.
And, yeah, it's going to be great to headline.
a card almost at home.
Yes, yes, and I was going to say that to you.
You mentioned the fans there.
At that UFC Stockholm Q&A,
I was taken aback by how much the fans
had kind of got behind you.
I mean, you seemed to really resonate with them that day.
Was that a big moment for you,
or are you used to that kind of thing?
Or do you think these wins have kind of grown your status over there?
Yeah, I feel definitely like I have elevated this
as a, you know,
a fighter and a fan favorite.
And I feel like the Scandinavian fans are really getting behind me.
And I think they will have my back all the way now
when we continue to rise.
Yes, yes.
And of course, Alexander Gustafsson recently retired.
So, I mean, the pressure is even more now, right?
You're going to have to...
You've got big boots to fill.
Yeah, I feel great to be in that position.
Alex has been a great ambassador for the sport here.
And, you know, it's really important that we get someone else to fill his shoes
and, you know, to continue to make the MMA fans here happy.
So I'm happy to be the person.
Were you shocked by that?
I mean, it took me by surprise, to be honest.
Were you shocked by that, um, when he were talking about,
after that UFC Stockholm fight?
I wasn't super surprised, but it's still, you know, I felt it.
I really like, I felt sad, you know, he has really been a big star over here,
and it's been a great inspiration for so many, you know, and so it was a sad moment in a way,
but I wasn't shocked by it.
He has been expressed in the last couple of years
that his motivation has been a little bit up and down
and I think he really had John Jones in his head
and when that wasn't the case anymore,
you know, no, I wasn't surprised.
Do you think it's going to remain though?
Because as we know in MMA,
they seem to change their minds very quickly
when they retire in this game, right?
Yeah, exactly.
But I'm not sure.
but Alex feels like really one of those guys that can enjoy himself away from the crowd and away from the attention.
He's a loner and I think he will enjoy himself.
But you never know, you know.
Have you been a competitor?
Then you will always miss that.
So you never know.
Absolutely.
Now, I wanted to ask because the last time we were speaking to you, Jack, you were kind of telling us that,
you know, Gasselma or Romero, they were the ideal candidates for you. Those are the guys you wanted to fight.
You know, Cana Nair of course is on a good run, and he's gathered momentum quickly in the division.
But were you hoping to get one of those guys? Were you hoping for a bigger name for this fight?
Yeah, for sure, you know. I have to, you know, but in the end of the day, I want to stay active, you know, and I want to headline this car.
and when they couldn't get me
gas lim and I knew that Romero is booked with Costa
then I was just like
who is the next one
and they told me that
yeah you will get canon here
and so
yeah you know he's a dangerous opponent
and
and a lot of people
you know especially the fans are telling me
why are you doing this you know
instead of like, yes, great, we will have you in Copenhagen.
People are just like, you shouldn't take this fight.
Yes, because he's got a lot to gain, right?
When you look at your situation and Jared's done great now since he's moved to middleweight,
but it still feels as though you're kind of in different situations,
whereas you are knocking on the door of that title contention.
And, you know, to be fair to Canaaner, he's just kind of arrived, right?
Yeah, exactly.
So we're definitely in different positions.
but, you know, I want to show everybody that I am the best and I can beat anyone, you know.
He shouldn't be able to meet me if I feel like I'm the best in the world, which I do.
So, yeah, I will have to show everybody that I will take care of business.
And, yeah, then I think it's my turn again to get a big one.
Yes, yes, and I mean, I saw that Gastilum, he spoke to my colleague, Damon Martin, at the very end of June, and he had kind of said he wanted to fight you, but it couldn't be until November and Madison Square Garden.
So I'm wondering, is that just too long for you to wait?
Or could you just not pass up main eventing a fight in Denmark?
Because I know you, Jack, and I know you would have really wanted to compete on that card, you know?
And you have a problem turning down fights.
Let's be honest.
You never turned down fights.
yeah that's the you know i don't like to turn down the
and also
the uc you know they they need a main event there so
and you know as i said
before i want to be that that guy in skinnavia that
that has that place so
and also you know i think it's been
for me to get another main event to build my name you know and get even more
recognition from from the worldwide UC fans because I think that's also important for
the UFC that they you know before they throw me in or give me a title shot I think
they want to you know be able to make a big fight and to be able to do that it's
It's important that, you know, I, yeah, the fans all around the world know who I am.
So I think it's a good thing, you know, to have a main event to continue to build my name and get ready for that big title show.
You know, as I said, I know the kind of guy you wear and I know that you like to fight as often as possible.
I know it's something you're working on, you're trying to be a bit more selective, a bit more cautious, but, you know, I'm wondering if you come out of
this fight unscathed. Would you like to get on that MSG card against Gasselm if it was a
possibility? Huge venue, very iconic, but it is a very, very quick turnaround.
Yeah. I can already hear the wheels going in your head. You're already going, I think I can do it.
Not impossible at all, you know, but we will see, you know, the thing is that I think that
Romero and Costa is going to fight before that
they're going to fight like in August
aren't they right
right right and then yeah okay
yeah so
depending on how that goes
you know
there might not be
another guy besides me to
step in there for the next
title challenge after this one anyway
so we'll see
but if not you know
yeah I would love to fight in my
my son's guard against gasoline that would be a great fight
but yeah we'll see
it's yeah of course
a lot has to happen right like a lot we have we have to wait
and see how it plays out to some extent because this
sport it changes so quickly right yeah there's so many things
happening now you know but
Romero Costa fight and then
Easy and
Withiger are
On October 6th right?
Yeah exactly
The week after what do you think of that one
I mean do you do you have a pick for that fight?
Yeah
I have Whiziger as a favorite
But it's a tough fight for
For Mike they are awesome
Awesome fighters
So
looking forward to see how that one plays out
And yeah
Do you believe the person who wins the title that night
that will be the person that you eventually fight for the belt?
I think so, yeah.
So you're going to be very interested watching that one.
Yeah, for sure.
That's what it's about for me.
It's all about that big title, that goal.
That's my dream, and that's where I keep in my eyes.
You know, do you believe that you can make a big statement here
because we see it so often, Darren Till in Liverpool,
Connor McGregor in Ireland, you know,
just when you have,
I know it's not exactly home.
It's not Norway or Sweden, but you know, you guys all kind of support each other over there.
That's something I've noticed.
Like, do you feel as though if you put on a spectacular performance,
like you have been against the Canaanere,
and they see what you mean to the people over there that will be a big moment for your career?
Do you believe this could be one of the bigger moments of your career?
Yeah, I really believe so.
And I feel like the performance in itself is going to be very important.
important to what happens next, you know.
If it's going to be a really dominant victory that, you know,
really goes viral, that's what you prefer, and that would lead to the biggest things.
So that's what I'm going for.
Well, well, I can't wait to see it.
I was just wondering, did you notice that there's a Bellator card on in Europe that weekend as well?
There's one going down in Dublin.
I mean, some people over here are talking about can Bellator kind of win over some of the support that weekend?
It's got some of their bigger names, MVP, and James Galaher and stuff.
Do you feel as though the brand is strong enough to compete with UFC at this stage yet?
I'm not sure about the numbers in the last live event that they had here in Europe.
So I think that will be a pretty good way to...
Yeah, indicator to measure.
But then again, the UFC didn't find,
wasn't in the same time as Belton last time,
so I believe.
So, no, you know, I don't think that's going to be a problem.
I think the majority of the tickets are already sold out,
so people are not going to change the plan.
Yes, yes, I agree, I agree.
to see some other Scandinavian fighters on the card, including Nicholas Dalby making his return
and Gunnar Nelson.
I'm super happy for Nicholas, you know.
He's been a friend of mine for many years and he really is a great fighter, so he deserves
the spot and I'm sure he's going to do great.
Well, Jack, thank you so much for talking to us again.
It's always a pleasure.
I am aware that the last time we had a conversation about will you take this fight if this
wins, that was when you beat David Branch and then just a couple of weeks.
later you went on and fought Hanalo Sosa so. So I think it's a good omen to bring into the fight
card anyway and I wish you all the best my friend. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me again.
Always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks Jack. All the best. Bye-bye. Thank you. Bye-bye.
And it was great to speak to Jack Hermanson again. Huge fight there in Copenhagen for him now at the end of
September. Massive. Massive. He doesn't seem to think that Bellator Dublin can compete with the
El Copenhagen card. Maybe there's a lot more interest in Ireland but I think I
agree with them in terms of Europe in general
you know? Yeah, interesting
one I think
No man I think the
You know the Bellator looking at the card in Dublin
This card's a bit more stacked
Which one? Which card?
This Bellator card that's coming to Dublin
Compared to the last one terms of matches
You have a different scope
No, I'm talking about online traction and stuff like that
Yeah, I know but it's different scope
Because you write for an Irish publication
So I mean of course
More people are going to
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe yeah
But I thought you know the Bellator numbers even
from the stuff Bellator put out the last time
we're pretty high so it'd be interesting to see
it will be it will
well let's take a look at the Europeans that are in action
first we'll get on to Colby and the rest of that later
he was on the podcast last week and we were already singing his praises
but my word Nazra Hackperas
what a performance he didn't but he can fight man
looks like once that MacDessie fight
he was initially meant to fight I think back in March
old team rates I think that's a good fight for him
he's a bangor he's so heavy hands
you know we said it a long long time ago
about Hackperast that we both think he's the
potential to be a world champion.
And I think that underlined and solidify what the guy can do in terms of that power,
that overhand right.
He's just bringing different facets every time to his game.
Stunning performance from him again.
And a guy, I think now this year in the next 12 months, they're going to have to seriously
start looking at it, giving him a little bit of a bigger push because this guy is absolutely
phenomenal athlete.
And as what you said...
23 years of age, as you pointed out last week.
Yeah.
As what you said last week as well about for us, Zahabhi saying to you, in how much,
Hamburg that this guy's a world champion in the making and I think
you know he's all the right tails to do it so I'm very excited to see what he
does in the next 12 months definitely it's funny right and this happens a lot
with Eurobatch because we are the championship builders as we know yes they do
a interview with us I put out the interview before they fight everybody's going
who the fuck is that guy and then the next day when they win they're like I've been
talking about this guy for years is our fucking dopes Jesus Christ it wrecks me
head so stupid always happens
always happens
fuck him
oh so so thick
but um yeah
no this guy he's class
he's brilliant
and I'm really looking forward
to seeing what he can do
and 23
that's the last thing
what game Silva has been defeated
once before that
in his career
like and you know
I just think
but the age
the age is scary
yeah it is
it is scary
like you you give got the guy
another five years
before he even hits his prime
but did you see
did you notice how he basically
just didn't do much
for the first round
just basically on
oh I'm gonna read this
read this all right
and look
Sylva's in
intimidating going to fight. He's throwing loads of
things, everything at you. And it was just
like he walked down in the second round. He's like, all right, now we've got
to raid. And
I think as well, another thing, he doesn't take
any fucking damage as well, which is
beautiful face. Very little damage.
What a handsome, handsome man. He's doing
everything the right way, definitely. He is indeed.
Darko Stosage,
look, he's after taking two big blows
as far as I'm concerned to his stock now.
Low kicks, costing the
fight. He's kicking up against a really tall
dude. I get it. It was bound to happen, but
when the referee specifically says to you mate
you have to stop doing this
this is going to call
basically telling them you're going to ruin yourself here
continues to do it I just can't get over that lack of IQ
you know he's lost
momentum now two lost on the truck and I was saying
after his debut against Kimble he flatlined Kimball
in the first round and now he just looks like
a guy that's too muscular and too
short to compete at Lee Heavyweight
and as you said there are a guy who's ran out of ideas
and you know poor Ike
Q as you said and you know it does happen sometimes when they
when guys get a loss even in a promotion or you know the first
loss of their career that we often talk about that and how they bounce back
psychologically he could be very damaged after that so
it's just like look very interesting I think um like I even
was there with my friend Steve Morty's a he's a great personal trainer he's
ripped like and um as ripped as you no you know don't be silly
but he's like he'd be quite a squat guy as well like really muscular not like
probably the same height as me and he was just looking
looking at him going like that's not like it's not an athletic shape you know he's just like this guy
he's assaught after one round and you could see that like he was kind of looking desperate as soon as
as the first round finished and he didn't get a finish like the thing that annoyed me about it is
Kenny and juku wasn't even showing him anything crazy and you're just like are you serious this is it
like um look i thought he was one of the most terrifying prospects at two o five and him and rackich
i kind of had them in a similar regard at one stage and look it's completely changed now
rackage is flying better this guy really needs to work on a lot of things and he needs to
consider his future
a low heavyweight
as far as I'm concerned
Mickey Gal
just about got through
Polans
Tuari
a bit of a face plant
with that Diego
Sanchez call
nice burp there
by the way again
though thanks very much
absolutely disgusting
I'm drinking a bottle of
coke
back is killing me
Mike Perry
giving him a bit of shit
probably
changed the narrative
from that Diego
call out a bit
but what is your
take on Gal
I think
you know
I feel like he's
dropped off a lot
right
oh yeah he's
dropped off a huge
man.
Jesus.
No,
let's be honest
about it.
Like,
he has.
He came in
with all his
hype because he was
fighting in CM Punk.
And one thing I will say,
he was rushed to the UFC.
Yeah, he was.
And you know,
you're going to take that opportunity
against Scott,
like CM Punk and obviously the fight
against it was Mike Brown or,
sorry,
Michael Jackson or whatever,
his name is,
I can't remember the former MMA writer
that he fought to face CM Punk.
But yeah,
he's lost a lot of momentum.
Obviously he had that loss to Sage.
Was it?
Was it?
Sage loss?
Yeah, I think so.
And then,
then he just hasn't really built on from a guy who's obviously very good in the deck.
We haven't seen any evolution in his game.
And I'm just, I'm just a little bit sort of perplexed to see his trajectory go up so high and then down.
And no one really cares when Mickey Gall fights anymore if we're honest about it.
Like, you know, it doesn't stick off the card like it did in the first couple of fights.
And like calling out Diego Sanchez hardly won that everyone's going to be like, oh my God, I can't wait to see that.
I couldn't give a shit and I don't want to see it.
Like that's how I'd feel about that, to be honest to Mickey.
Good man.
He was a nice guy. You met him over in London.
Decent fella, decent game. But God, man, you know, Diego Sanchez. If you're calling it Diego
Sanchez, where do you really want to go in your career?
We watched this on a series of phones, as I was saying about it. We went to one bar,
25 English lads locked out our minds. And I was like, if we stay here, this is going to get
fucking ugly.
To be UFC and Prague all over again. So we went outside and we just said, right, let's move on,
went down to the next pub, bunch of like 50-year-old English lads outside. And as soon as we
walk in, they start going. I was like, all right, let's go.
go somewhere else,
ended up watching it
on our phones.
But yeah,
all the boys reckon
Mickey Gal looks like
Matt Dylan and there's
something about Mary
he does a little bit actually
yeah,
he does,
doesn't he?
Always piss myself.
Yeah,
that's not a bad
comparison at all
actually thinking about.
For lads
you've been barely seeing
for their nose
as I thought
it was a pretty good shout.
Listen,
in all fairness to Mickey
just wrap this up,
you know,
obviously very,
very good on the deck
but you just wonder
how far he's going to go.
He hasn't really evolved
an awful lot.
You know,
just lacking a bit
interest for me at the moment. Yeah, I agree with you.
I love his entrance music, though, I will say.
Yes, and then we course, we had Anthony O'Sherchenko
getting her first career submission win with that rear
naked choke of Czech Republic's
news he put it over.
What's your thinking of that, Noel?
Yeah, no, I wasn't particularly happy
about it. I thought it was, you know,
he checked a couple of times and then,
you know, stopped the fight. I think
when he checked a hand twice, he should have realized
that her hand was limp and she was out. I just
wasn't happy with the time between he checked the first,
hand and the time she was out it was probably about seven to eight seconds and um just you know a little bit
more decisiveness in a decision i'd like to see from the official on that occasion i thought he was
very thorough and i feel like which way do we want it right because everyone's given out about herb
and uh doing the uh Robbie luller and Ascran and if he had used the same protocol on Ascran and
Robbie we may have had a fight continue I think uh you're right in the stretch that like the time is
what everyone's worried about but it's a different story you're just a different story
I think when someone's caving your head in with elbows and punches,
just in terms of the damage you can do to someone.
And I feel like maybe when he checks the left hand twice at the start,
I think he even kind of doubts that what he's seeing is real,
because he's like maybe she's posting on this fist at the moment
or just move to post on it, and that's why it's stuck to the ground,
goes over to your side and checks it.
Yeah, it is long.
That's my concern, is the length.
Yeah, I get it.
But I mean, I don't think we should call him for the guys head.
I don't think you are calling for the guy's head, but I did see people.
And I feel like it's just the age of outrage now.
We're just going to keep on crying every time we see I need be slightly wrong.
Such mony fuckers.
Someone isn't that fucking rage today.
I'm not a rage.
I'm criticising.
I'm criticising the need for the media to be outraged by something every single event.
I'm not.
I'm not outraged at all.
A lot of people are.
A lot of people.
Never let him referee again.
Yeah, that's bollocks.
Has he never seen a rare-naked choke before?
it's all that's bullshit um you know you learn lessons from these last week it was let's for a joe rogan
do i mean like come on that was absolutely appalling by the way and people should be ashamed of themselves
for putting that at john onick and joe rogan have to fire someone every week that's the way we're
at now with this and then actually just to mention that laura sancoe was getting death threats
after the weekend as well so you're an absolutely disgrace whoever was putting that out yeah
and she posts on her twitter there last night absolutely disgusting animals you shouldn't even be
you know is that really this sport yeah what did you do you do you do that's not
I don't even know.
Just unbelievable.
Just her job probably.
I think it was their interview with Dana White.
Just shocking, man.
Absolutely shocking.
She works for the UFC guys.
Come on.
Unbelievable.
That's crazy.
I can't believe that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Laura's a lovely girl as we know.
And it's like that's totally unacceptable to be posting shit like that to people
threatening them and like their family.
Unbelievable.
That is crazy.
Brazilian by way of London, Claudio Silva increases around to 14 straight wins.
with a first round slope over Carl Williams.
And I mean, we've said this before.
It's shocking how much better he is than guys when he hits the ground with him.
Like, I mean, he is three fights ago.
Like his last win is over, like, I mean, three fights ago,
he beat Leon Edwards, should I say.
Yeah, unbelievable.
It was, you know, this guy, if it wasn't for his injuries,
and he had this streak, there'd be a lot of people talking about him now,
or there'd be a lot of people crying to be talking about him now.
You know, three, four years out, I think it was.
Very unfortunate.
it. But look at the momentum he's put together
when he's had like a year of
three fights. It's scary. This guy, man,
is so good. So good
when he gets on the deck. Let's just
hope he can keep this run up and, you know,
get his just desserts because he was out for
those four years and I put a run together because
listen, the guy is basically English
anyway. We can call him European, I think, at this day.
Yeah, I was actually trying to call to text him.
John, when you're just like getting onto their Instagram.
How are you doing, man? I'm really important. Will you talk to me?
No message back. But
yeah, let's talk
out Colby again. We talked about
a bit, the Uzman
fight is the one that has to happen. It has to, like the way
they've positioned them there afterwards, it has to happen, right?
Yeah, you know, Dana said it,
which doesn't mean an awful lot these days, as we well
know, but very interesting in my
opinion, because I think
Colby was coming at one point, like the
Tony Ferguson of the lightweight division where
you know, how many more fights is he
have to do in order to get a title shot.
And, you know, this is undeniable
now, especially after that performance, you know,
the most shots thrown in a
UFC contest ever was incredible.
520 strikes, I believe he threw in the fight.
Average one every 2.38 seconds, I think it was, something like that crazy.
Absolutely brilliant.
And, you know, he doesn't have the biggest power on his hands, but it's just Robbie Lawler
didn't know what to do in terms of the volume that he was thrown at him.
He kept him guessing he threw the odd kick in there, stepped back to reassess things.
It was a really cool, calm, calculate performance.
And the most impressive thing for me about this performance was the fact he suffered a cut
four weeks ago in training
and he actually couldn't wrestle or spar
all he was doing was physical fitness
and it just shows you how fit the guys
that guy looked like you could have gone for another three or four rounds
dude I think it's gonna be a really interesting fight
because I was outstanding
like I couldn't believe my jaw hit the ground
when Cameroosman fought Tyron Woodley
the way he fought Tyron
and I feel like both of these guys
are going to put on a really energetic fight
and look as much as I said earlier
in the first segment of the show that it's going to store up emotion
you have to make this fight if you're the young
see.
100%.
I'll tell you
another thing as well
and I want to actually ask you this
you know,
a lot of people I saw
oh you know
Robbie didn't look good
it was a matter of
you know I saw it all over
you have a lad
punch you in the face
100 times in five minutes
and see how you feel.
Exactly.
That's my point here
where I'm trying to get across
I think it was the fact
that Covington was just so good
that he didn't let Lawler
do anything in terms of
the volume as we just told about there
what would your your thoughts
be on people saying shit like that
I don't go along with that at all
well when he fought Asker and everyone was saying
you just denied
Robbie fought way better and now he's shite
all of a sudden as far as this fan base thing
unbelievable
look Robbie said after the fight
they were kind of saying a lot of people are
talking about your output
Robbie etc and he was just like man
you try and fight that guy he's trying to punch it
in the face a million times you know what I mean
his output was crazy and you could see Robbie in the last round
he's trying to get Colby to give him something
like he's rocking back and forth
just throw something a bit
off centre
something so I can catch you
he just wasn't
allowing him
to breathe
yeah
it was unbelievable
totally and the composure
as well
was fantastic
you know
never panicked
once got tagged
a couple of times
just a thoroughly
impressive performance
piece from
Kobe Covington
and you know
if they don't make this fight
they're a bunch of
total and other assholes
in my opinion
because it certainly needs to happen
in you know
Madison Square Garden as well
you know
no brain or if they can put
on a you know
a mega card there
with, you know, maybe Habib
if the turn around is quick enough.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Jim Miller just wanted to say something about Jim,
that was unbelievable.
That guillotine, like a guillotine isn't something
that you can catch a lot of people
unless you're like a master of it,
you know what I mean?
And to do with the clay guida.
Unbelievable.
Gita threw his head in very sloppy, though,
but it was, you know, excellent,
astute awareness from Jim Miller
to grab his head and obviously put the guillotine in.
But I was a little bit surprised
that that Gita went in.
where he did. So he shot in between his arm a perfect position.
That's day one you did to you. You're not meant to, that's like you can take down with your head in the outside.
So, yeah, surprised at Clay Gita. You know, really good stuff from Miller and
the guy, you know, for a guy you used to have, you know, Lyme's disease and shit like that.
Just a turnaround is just incredible. And, you know, a real, a real sort of feel-good story for
Jim Miller and his home state as well of New Jersey. Absolutely. Let's get on on our second interview
of the day. It is Mr. Johnny Wall.
and ESPN. I've just reported that that fight with Cory Anderson is on the verge of being
signed. So we got his thoughts on all of these wonderful things and how he feels about being
an Irish man all of a sudden since he popped up in SBG last week because that's what we think
he is. So we'll talk to Johnny. We'll talk to Johnny Walker when we're back about 15.
And now we are joined by a man who everybody in Ireland has been talking about, a guy who
spent the week here training in SBG, I believe, and a man who has,
is reportedly about to fight Corey Anderson at UFC 244 in New York. It is one of the most entertaining
fighters in the world. Mr. Johnny Walker. How are you, my friend? I'm okay, my friend. How are you?
I am fantastic now that I'm talking to you. I must ask you first of all, because I know all of our
Irish listeners are going to want to know. How did you enjoy Ireland? Very good. My first
Guinness two days ago and I enjoy very nice place, good weather. It's not too cold like,
like I think it should be, but I like her. Yeah. Well, I got to ask Johnny because it's the talk of
the world, the MMA world today. ESPN have just reported that you and Corey Anderson's fight
for UFC 244 is in the works. It seems like it's going to happen. Are you confident that it will
happen? Of course, I can wait to fight again. After my surgery, you know, like five months ago,
no fight, no nothing. I come to like, I fight like three, three times in, I think four months or less.
I do know, like I like to be very active. Then I stopped myself for the last five months. Now I'm
back and I can wait to fight again. Yes, and I mean, it seems like it's a great fight for you because
Corey believes he's right on the verge of fighting for a title, you have been saying for a long
time that you are ready to fight for a title. Do you believe that he is the man that can
unlock the door for a title shot for you? No, nobody can lock no door for me.
No, unlock. He is the one that will allow you. If you win, you will go through to fight for the
title. I don't know. I hope so. If not, I will keep, beat somebody. I don't know. Anyone, any time,
anywhere, just send the location, I'll be there.
Do you respect Corey? Do you believe
that he is an elite Lloyd
heavyweight because he has made so many
improvements. He has been looking very good lately.
What do you think of him?
Yeah,
he's good, but
if I want to be a champ, I don't have two words with him.
I have two words with the champ, I have to beat the champion.
I have to be ready for beat the champion, you know?
If I'm ready for the champion, I'm ready for him
as well.
Yes.
Anyway.
And I mean, what do you think is the biggest challenge if you fight Corey?
Where do you feel he is strongest?
I don't know.
I have to be there to few because we never fights.
And every fight is different fights.
I think he's strong and has a good wheelchair.
But everybody knows everything today, you know.
And you have to be read for any situation, any techniques, like box, or my tie, or wester, jiu-jitsu.
So you have to be read because you don't be surprised if it happened something wrong, you know?
Yes, yes.
Does it mean a lot to you to fight in Madison Square Garden?
Is that an exciting thing for you?
Yeah, of course.
I don't feel pressure in no fighting, nowhere, you know.
For me, I feel like home everywhere where I am.
And I just will be very, very happy.
Like, I mean, you've put this incredible run together, Johnny, all first round.
knockouts,
Khalil Roundtree,
Justin Liddette,
Misha Sarkinoff.
Do you believe,
like you...
Cory Anderson?
Yes, yes.
Do you believe
this is what's going to happen
to Corey Anderson?
Yeah, if not,
I can submit him
or win by point.
I think I need show
because everybody
think I have no good
ground game or no good
Western.
Man, I train everything.
I'm brown belt,
BJJ,
and I train a lot of
Westerners.
Well, I'm red.
I just don't have time to show my whole game.
I don't need to show my whole game as well.
It's good to people think I don't have nothing, you know,
no good grounds game, no way or something like this.
It's good to people think it like this.
Because I don't have to show it.
When I show, I will surprise somebody, you know?
Yes, yes.
And that's very exciting because you have looked amazing when standing up so far.
So, I mean, to think that you believe you are just as good on the ground,
that's a very exciting thing for fans to look out for.
Yeah, of course. I think maybe I have to show something in the ground is out to people like more, me, you know. I have a lot of things to show. I show nothing yet.
Wow, well. And I mean, it feels like to me that if you won this fight, I think the John Jones fight is very likely. And John Jones has been a guy who has said, I think Johnny needs to fight better guys. There's nobody beyond, like really, Corey is the next guy. And then there's John Jones. So,
I believe this is the right guy to fight if you are looking for that championship belt.
Yeah, I don't know what John Jones will say after this fight,
because I hear he say I need 25 minutes before I'm read to him.
If every fight that I make, supposed to like one minute, I need then 25 fights
if I finish all of the fight in the first minutes, I don't know.
I don't know what he waits, but I'm ready to him.
You know, what do you think of John?
Like, I mean, a lot of people seem to think that he didn't look that good against your fellow Brazilian Tiago Santos.
But I think Tiago just looked very, very good that night.
What did you think of that fight?
Yeah, I was there.
I watched this fight.
And it's a great fight.
John Jones respect Tiago and Tiago respect John Jones, don't know.
But I think, you know, John Jones can't have a very good control game.
And he just don't want to risk himself for that fight because he's, you know,
He knows Tiago has a good hand, and he can have power to knock out him as well.
But Tiago has injury in his knee, both knee, a very bad injury.
He got a lot of surgery.
And John John's need like five minutes to beat one guy with a lot of injuries, you know.
He can do better.
I know John John can do better than this.
This is because I want to fight him because I know I can give him the proper fight.
Then I will push him to fight better to show who is John John.
Then everybody will see who is the Rio champion.
Yes, and I mean, like, the one thing I thought was impressive about the fight with Jones was he did stand with Tiago.
That's where Tiago is very strong in the stand.
Yeah.
But do you feel like he would stand with you?
Because your striking is so unpredictable and you're so powerful.
Do you believe that John would be forced to take you down because you are just so powerful and so unorthodox?
It's very hard to predict what you are going to do.
Maybe I think he is that.
If he take me down, I can take his dow and give you a proper ground game.
You know, nobody, nobody give to him like, I don't know how to say when people, punishment in their grounds.
You know, I can give to him a very big punishment in their grounds.
Yes, yes.
I mean, you know, I heard, I was speaking to my good friend and, of course, the greatest Brazilian
an M&A journalist, Gailme Cruz, he told me that you might be preparing for this fight in Moscow.
Is that correct?
Yeah, yeah.
I will train for the next 10 days in Dublin, you know, to restart, train, like, strong,
to feel how my shoulder is going, you know, and be ready for, start my company training in Russia, maybe.
Wow.
I will start, yeah, maybe I finish in New York as well.
I just cut my weight in techniques, but yeah, I look for training hard in Moscow, Russia.
We have seen you represent many countries.
You've represented Thailand.
You've represented the UK.
You've represented Brazil on your shorts and on your T-shirts.
Will you maybe represent Moscow this time?
I mean, Russia, if you do train in Moscow for this fight?
Yeah, if I make my country in there, of course I put the Russia flag in my clothes.
Wow, wow.
And you have such a crazy story.
of how you came to the UK.
I know Gailme put out the article
a long time ago about you
traveling to Scotland and stuff like this.
I mean, a lot of the European
fans feel a very close bond to you.
Do you realize that a lot of people
nearly see you as a European?
They cheer you on like one of their own.
Yeah, I'm here. I like to
because, you know,
I think I can
use the fight,
MMA, to make everybody
come close, you know, to, to make
like a big chin to different nationalities,
everybody together to share for the same sports.
There's a big family, like...
I know it would be very exciting for Irish fans
if we saw you wearing the Irish flag one day.
Do you think you'll ever do a camp in SBG?
Of course, I can make one camp there as well
and use the Irish flag.
I would be very proud.
We would love that.
We would love that, Johnny.
Everybody would be very excited.
You know on the podcast you are on right now, we've been calling you Irish for many, many years.
So that would be very cool.
If you don't make my company Russia, I will make my country in here.
I just don't decide already.
So tell me, you know, how do you see the fight with Corey going?
As you said, it's been very quick so far.
You get rid of people so quickly.
Do you think this will be your longest fight in the UFC so far?
I hope to show a little bit more of junior hockey.
But you never know, man.
Fights can happen everything.
You know, you can't expect like the right thing or guess something
because MAA is crazy, it's unbelievable.
Everything can happen.
Do you think he's your toughest opponent so far?
I think so because the rank, you know.
If you was there because you are good.
And do you feel like if you beat him, will you have something special to say to John Jones
in front of all the people in New York?
Yeah, of course.
I will call John Jones after that.
Yes.
And when do you think it will happen?
If everything goes according to plan, you get your hand raised, you beat Corey.
How long before you fight Jones?
When would be the perfect time for you?
Man, just booked for the next week.
I'll be there.
I don't need too much time to train.
I'm ready.
I train for this for five years, five years training.
Why I need more time to train more?
I'm ready.
Absolutely, man.
Absolutely.
Now, you better stop drinking too much of Kines.
I don't know.
I don't want to be rude, like, but I'm very confident, you know.
I just, I just don't want to be rude, but this is me.
I like to be like this, and I don't want to be rude, but I believe a lot myself.
You know, you have made such a big impact on the UFC so far.
I don't believe John Jones when he says, you know, he doesn't know much about you.
You need to be better guys.
Do you think he secretly is looking at you and he knows that you are a serious challenge?
Yeah, he knows.
He knows already.
We are not enemy, you know.
I will be very proud when I fight against him, you know.
The belt is when I won him is just bonus.
But the great thing is like the fight against him.
I want the fight against him.
The belt's just a bonus, you know.
Amazing.
Amazing.
Johnny, thank you so much for your time today.
It has been an absolute pleasure to speak to you.
Thank you.
I really, I really can't wait to see this fight against Corey Anderson,
and I believe, and everybody in the MMA world believes it too.
If you beat Corey, there is nowhere else.
It must be John Jones.
I'll be there, my friend.
Just give me time.
I'll be there.
Thank you so much, Johnny.
Enjoy the rest of your time in our time.
Ireland.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Bye, bye.
Take care.
Bye.
And fantastic to hear from Ireland's own, Johnny Walker.
Stanley Man's own.
Exactly.
Well, but, yeah, it seems like the Guinness anyway.
And he was with Johnny Jitsu.
He was an outsider, so I mean, I think he's one of ours, to be honest.
I'm sure he's going to have a weird perception of Irish people after that was.
I looked like they're having good crack.
In fairness.
Yeah, so let's take a look at this weekend's card, Euroc.
The first ever.
Valentina Shep.
I have a feeling, you know, her rematch with Liz Karmouche might go a bit different than their first meeting about 10 years ago, you know?
Yeah, back in 2010 as we chatted about her there a couple of moments ago.
But yeah, listen, it's going to be a total different ballgame.
I think she's like one of the best players in the world the moment, Valenciavchenko.
She is.
She's unbelievable.
And I don't really see anywhere in which, you know, maybe if she gets Liz or maybe if Liz gets her on the deck, that's about it.
But I don't think she's going to even sniff again on the deck here.
I think this is going to be
your first second round,
TKO,
stoppage victory.
I'm looking for
Valentina Shivchenko
to go straight through.
And,
you know,
an aging,
Liz,
Karmouche,
the fighter,
I don't think,
is the same
fighter that we've seen
a number of years ago,
obviously that,
you know,
nearly pulling off the shock
against Ronda Roosie.
Very different fighter,
and I just think the form
she's on the momentum.
She has fighting close as well
to home where she's,
she's obviously from Krigstan,
but she trains a lot in Peru.
So that's,
you know,
it's a,
stone throw away from her as well.
I actually don't understand geography even slightly.
It's not far.
I'll take your word for you.
In South America.
So I'm, you know, I just don't really see any sort of area here.
Where Liz Carmouch is going to be able to get her to the deck and look for submission.
So, yeah, it's Sheva all night, man.
Volcan Ouzdimir will finally take on Ilare-Tipi, of course.
That was when to take on.
I think Pete's just went, yeah, I agree with you.
Like, fucking let's move on.
UFC Stockholm.
Volcan needs a win so badly here.
My God.
I mean, I know Illar is coming off
a loss to Cory Anderson,
but not in the same situation as Walcan.
Do you get an extra life at Light Heavyweight though?
Yeah, I think so.
I think you do.
I think you do.
It's like, you know...
As soon as you move beyond middleweight,
listen, mate, you have to lose five in a row.
Yeah, I think it is.
But listen, you know, a marketable guy here...
Or you have to be BJ Penn.
And, you know, he did have won, you know,
sort of dodgy decision,
the one in London against...
Reyes.
Reyes. A lot of people thought that
fight went his way. I wasn't
anything hung up about that decision to be honest
I probably did score it to Reyes.
Latifie, a guy
we obviously know, still my hurl once here
in Dublin, if you remember
way back in the day. Coming off that
loss to Corey Anderson, you know, two
really good wins before it against Tyson Pedro
and OSP. A guy
though, you always sort of go
you know, he fails
when he gets to that sort of top
four or five stage. So
is Vulcan top four or five is what we're going to find out here?
That's where I think.
Yeah, it's not a bad show.
We have to sort of look at both of these guys now.
And I think, you know, Vulcan really does need to win this.
Or it's, you know, you just, you wonder ever since that Jones loss, has there been a little bit of fire pulled out of his guts and his belly?
The Carmier loss.
It's like a hangover.
The Carmier loss.
Yeah, the Cormier loss.
Sorry, I beg a pardon.
It's like a massive sort of hangover.
You know, you'd often see a soccer team after a World Cup international side, you know,
for a year or two.
And I think that could very well be the case with Volcan Osdemar.
Maybe it was a little bit too soon for him to get that shot against Corman.
He's found it hard to really sort of bounce back up and find what sort of career trajectory
he's on.
To be fair to him, he's always taking the hardest fight.
Yeah, 100%.
That's one thing I've always said.
Like, Jesus, like, he's basically like, who is the most difficult fight you can possibly
give me in my current situation?
That's what it feels like he's looking at break in time.
You know, he's taking on a contender there in Reyes.
He has no time.
He's got no time, man.
Yeah.
It's unfortunate.
It is unfortunate.
MacDonald's Oscar by Chota, a guy who I'm really impressed by so far, has drawn the short straw.
He is taking on one of the greatest jih Tijuana of all time, Mr. Rolfo Vieira,
who will be making his UFC debut.
This guy is unbelievable.
Like, I mean, Dylan Dannis wants to think that he's the greatest jih Tijuana in M.A.
He obviously hasn't seen Rodolfo Vieer yet because...
You're a jitz expert.
How good is the guy, yeah?
Well, I'll tell you, it's not me.
all I'm shite at
Chichitsu,
but it's like all the people
in the Jiu-Jitsu community
that I talked to all the time.
Tom King was telling me
like he,
Rolfo was blowing my mind
with what he's doing there.
We know Tom is hugely critical
when it comes to like
Jiu-Jitsu as a second-degree black belt
so I mean
yeah,
I think it's a really,
really tough fight for both guys
but I do feel as though
Rodolfo,
with his expertise on the ground,
if it goes down there,
Poichota,
who's looked very capable on the ground,
will just won't be able to swim
at this guy.
He just won't be able to,
And from what I've seen of Rodolfo's fighting so far,
he is very good on the feet,
definitely a lot better than I expecting it to be.
But, of course, on the ground,
he's just a completely different kettle of fish.
Nothing that most people would even have in their gym to replicate.
You know, they wouldn't have another guy that could possibly do what he could do.
So I think it's going to be a long night for Pitchell.
Are we looking at a guy here?
It's probably obviously too early to say,
but are we looking at a guy here who's the potential
from what you've seen so far to go right to the very top?
Like, I mean, I mean, I think the classic jujitsu to MMA legend, really, is Moia.
So, I mean, if you can get anywhere near what Maya's done in MMA, I think you're doing pretty well for yourself.
And I do think he's capable of something similar.
Also on the card, something I'm really excited about.
He's one of my 2019 prospects to watch Cyril Gan.
He is making his debut against Raphael Pesoa.
Cyril Gan is only 3 in 0.
He was a champion with TKO in Canada before he was signed.
and he is from
what's it called
the fight factory in Paris
is that what it's called?
Yeah
The something factory
MMA factory
What's called?
I think it's the
MMA or fight factory
Yeah yeah
where you're just going on
with one of that monosur
With an offend
Fernand Lopez
A man who
brought another guy
to the UFC
Another heavyweight
Someone you might have
heard of
Mr. Francis and Gannu
Imagine
I would pay
wild money
to just watch them to sparring
Cyril Gahn
was like a mooy toy champion
before he came to
MMA so he is just
obliterating people
I think he's 3 in O now
as far as I know, but I expect this guy to make huge waves of heavyweight because, as we know,
when you win a heavyweight, you take massive jumps, you know?
Speaking of Francis Ngano, he posted a picture today on Instagram.
I know if you saw it with his grandfather.
His grandfather was a second-degree Dan black belt in karate.
Jesus.
And a brown belt in judo.
So there you go.
Wow.
That's really impressive.
Yeah, very cool photo.
Two very different national arts as well.
Yeah, two very different styles between himself and his grandfather.
But it was a scary side all the same.
If you want a nightmare tonight, go ahead and have a look at a big Franny, our Dublin's own.
Yes, yes indeed.
There we go.
Looking forward to that.
Gilbert Barnes, you reminded me, is actually going to be going up to 170 for the first time.
Giorino.
He's going to be trying to put the first blemage on M1 Global Champion, Alexei Kienko's 20-0 record.
So certainly not an easy out for your first time at Welterway you'd have to say.
But do you think moving up is going to serve him very well?
Yeah, man, he had tough, tough problems, making 155 pounds.
You know, he pulled out of a lot of fights as well.
I think, you know, Paul Felder was supposed to fight him at one point, I remember, if I'm not mistaken.
That's correct, yeah.
He pulled out of that.
I think Norman Park as well at one point in his UFC tenure was supposed to fight him.
A lot of cancel bouts, and, you know, maybe that was something down to the way he cut.
It was always sort of pretty close, you know, two weeks out, three weeks out from a fight that he pulled out.
Because, you know, I remember Paul couldn't get that fight re-bucked out.
So yeah, listen, I'm glad to see that a number of guys are actually making this move.
We look at the results we've seen from Michael Kiesis and see him move to 170 pounds.
There's a lot of comparisons, there's a lot of good comparisons these days.
And I think, you know, as much as we do slate the weight cutting and the whole process of it,
but we actually have seen a huge amount of fighters.
Obviously, the roster is huge in the UFC,
but we've seen a lot of guys actually move weight classes,
which I think is an encouraging thing for the future to try and get away from this wrestling culture of way cutting.
Yes.
that's all the Europeans
that are in action on the night
is there anything else jumping out with you
I have to say I like that Lukey V Perry
for it. Yeah I always like
Fichente Luque watching him throw down
he's a tough dude and he's a killer
he's some power in those hands
and obviously very good in the deck as well
so looking yeah looking forward to that
nothing really sort of sticking out
I'm kind of looking forward to this
seeing this Uruguayan guy
just to see what kind of reaction he gets
from the fans if it's going to be big
I'm looking forward to seeing
Have they been starved of this moment
you know like
to see you know what's
the, you know, atmospheres like in the arena, really from the get-go.
It's usually really exciting when they go to a place.
And Uruguay, it's a small little country as well.
They're the type of country to get behind their guys.
So, yeah, I think we could be in for a very, very loud and hostile atmosphere in Montevideo, I believe, the capital of Uruguay is on Saturday night, Peter.
Yeah, well, I think that's all of the talking points we have.
I don't know how big Uruguay is, because, again, my geography...
I haven't googled that and right.
I think it is, right?
we'll giggle her for the crack.
I think it is.
Gilemy Cruz,
isn't it is pulling his hair out.
I think it's three,
three million,
I think.
Wow.
I think it is.
Here we go.
I'm just getting it up there.
Come on, Noel.
Come on.
Come on.
Let's see if it is.
3.457 million.
See,
private school people
aren't stupid as fuck.
Well done,
thanks, buddy.
Yeah,
listen,
the only bad thing they ever
that they produced
from their sewers was Louis Suarez.
They also produced
Diego Forlan though.
Yeah.
He came from your boy.
He made this.
Gouse's cry, Diego, oh, oh, oh.
There you go, any opportunity
gets he will take shots at Liverpool.
Yeah.
And I'll look like, no, I won't say on the, all right.
But no, I'm looking forward to seeing the crowd
probably more than anything.
Yeah.
Well, Shevchenko, I love watching Sheffiago, butcher people.
Listen, it's not a great card.
It's very much sort of open-coming card.
Listen, Tisha Torres always brings, she's in the card
against Mariana Rodriguez.
It should be a decent fight as well.
So, yeah, listen, moving on, it's one of those ones.
I just think it's going to be.
uses a filler to try and poke their heads in a new market.
Yeah, absolutely.
I can't believe I've somehow managed to get through this podcast.
My voice is absolutely fucked.
Can you just mention Eddie Alvarez from one championship last weekend?
Yeah, Europe's own, Eddie Alvarez.
Yeah, Europe zone.
No, I just want to get your thoughts on it.
I don't know if you saw the finish, but man,
the guy takes some damage and to come back again.
It's just phenomenal.
Glad to see the damage is to the leg rather than the head this time, though.
Yeah, no, that was good.
but man the guy shows serious bloody resolve
Demetius Johnson struggled
to be honest with you
No but this is a reoccurring team
Why why like I feel like one
I nearly setting up these UFCs for a downfall
So they look like they're the best
Yeah they're certainly not
We always had this talent pool
And it's like what's going on here
And once again
You look kind of smaller than them
And you're going like what do they know
How to game the system and these guys don't
You know what I think it is
I think it's a motivational factor
From these fighters
I think they're fine on it
And you know Eddie even alluded to the set
found, you know, and Eddie's a guy he's fought in Japan before when he lost,
to, what's the guy's now, I can't pronounce his bloody name, in his debut,
when he lost the fight, Eddie came out and said, you know, it was just a little bit strange,
the whole, you know, build up to the week and what went on, and, you know, the crowd being quiet,
and obviously it is quiet in Japan where he met his debut, but that was obviously in the Philippines
at the weekend, and he just wondered sometimes with, you know, the show, you know, everything
that's going on, you know, what is the angle? Did they really give a shit about the belt out of
there for the money?
do you know what killed my boss
putting on the strike and fight after like two of the
greatest square to ever live in city
get the moit toy away from it keep it for a different day
just put on the undercard when nobody's watching anyway
totally agree you know totally agree
like that's what we were watching it in a barro over there
and like my friends were stuck into it when alvarez was on
stuck into it when demetri is on and then they put on
and you know credit to uh I think it was
hegerty or something the guy's name was from the UK
yeah fair play to me he's brilliant but
it's just changing it too much for the western audience
it's very difficult to do totally it's
It ruins the dynamic
to flow of the show,
even watching,
I agree,
which I went for a shower
I think when Heggerty was on.
I'm not even lying.
I had my laptop out the front
streaming it off my phone.
Yeah,
it really sort of fucked up
the momentum of it.
But listen,
Alan Philp bought an action on Tuesday
actually on that Worry series.
The Warrior series,
yeah,
so that's one to look out for.
Should check out his interview
with Andy Stevenson
over there in Severo,
M.A.
Didn't pull any punches as usual,
Alan.
Never afraid to do so.
Yeah, listen,
Alan's a lot
who likes to see.
a swing from the waist.
That's, that's it.
Listen, and you've got to respect that, and I think we do it as well,
so we can't really say much a lot of the time.
So, listen, it's the way to be, and I think, you know,
Alan's the kind of kids that's been around so long that, you know,
you're always expecting some from Alan.
Hopefully, you know, after that last, the last time out that he can be convinced back.
That wasn't the last time.
He's won since then.
He's one since then.
He's one on one so far in Warrior Series.
So hopefully you can get a, you know, get, get a win and get a bit of momentum behind him
because he's a talented, talented kids, you know, very, very good for her.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
So as I was saying, very difficult to get through this.
I'm sure all my...
You sound wonderful that piece.
Oh, it sounds like shite.
But I'm sure all the lads will love to hear me talking so desperately after that weekend.
So big thanks to Tomo, Al, the stag himself, Hingo, Paul, Top Gun, Stee, Sands, Colley, Jack and Mark for a Marvel's weekend.
Full of intoxication and hilarity.
And you missed me as well.
You weren't there.
In spirit.
I was in spirit.
All right.
Yeah, I mean.
I showed him the voicemails where you called him scumbags.
And I think it's changed, they've changed their tune considerably.
They only know I'm only joking.
No, one of them was sharp on knives and shit and saying, let's try and kill this prick.
I was like, no, he's all right.
He's all right.
He's all right.
I'm going to fucking shank him.
I was like, all right, look, well, keep me out of it.
I don't want anything to do with this.
All right.
Lovely bunch.
Another thing I wanted to thank everybody for was the reviews on iTunes.
I didn't even know they were there.
I haven't seen them at all.
Yeah.
But I didn't know they were there.
What I was doing was, I was trying to get MMI fighting up on iTunes,
so I got download a podcast for when I was going.
And when I saw it there was the top three,
the newest three reviews were for Eurobashen.
Love that shit, boys.
We didn't even ask you to do that and you're doing it.
So thank you so much.
I think when we asked us to do it last time, it was blocked.
No, it was blocked.
And it's been difficult.
We've a lot of recent departures,
but we've been fighting away,
and we've been still giving you all the best content we have.
You know, MMA Vience has produced a conveyor belt
of talent over the last decade
and we're going to be doing it.
We're going to fulfill the kind of
the roles that all these people had before
and it's not like we don't get on with them.
Some of my best friends have left the site
and of course I want them to do brilliant as well
with their careers.
They're excellent people.
But it's up to you to be on the right side of history.
You know, don't come out here.
Oh, what's this?
Where's Ariel?
Where's Mark and where's shot?
These guys aren't the same.
Be on the right side of history.
That's it.
We're the greatest.
All right?
It's going to happen for us.
So stop bullshit.
Even the,
even the Asoid,
like Jose's savage at that man.
He's savage at that.
He just have people moaning,
pissing and moaning.
These are just such complaining.
Fuck sometimes.
It's the MMA fans.
It is.
It's just part of it.
But we love you.
We know the Eurobash.
People are down.
We know he's are the most diehard.
We know there's no casuals on here.
So we really appreciate that.
It really did.
It made my day when I saw all that shit.
So, I got a message as well for,
on behalf of the podcast as well.
Own Henerman,
I was, sent me a message
Saturday and I'm just really nice
I think he's in Canada
so appreciate that brother
yeah thanks so much man
really really means a lot lads
it does it really does
and you know
you just keep on being the best
fans out there
use the Eurobashes
keep on leading by example
and eventually the rest
and we'll get the message
but you'll say
listen man
I've been saying about fucking years
I think PIS he's still
fucking drunk from his tag lads
I'm not I wish I was
to be honest
could actually speak properly
that's what you should need tonight
to get some sleep
you should go for a couple
curers
I have to go to a wedding on Saturday and then another wedding next Saturday.
I am not drinking.
I am no way.
No, but I'll tell you why you should have three points of Guinness because you sleep well tonight.
And this is why an alcoholic.
But anything you have left to say, Harry McGuire or whatever his name is.
Harry McGuire, yeah, do you know the song?
No, you were telling me it's good.
He drinks the vodka.
He drinks the Yeager.
His head's fucking massive.
McGuire, yeah, listen, good signing, good player, massive heads, massive transfer fee.
not liking the transfer fee,
but listen,
football is a lot of bollocks these days.
They're all mercenaries.
So it was,
80 million,
right?
Yeah.
So,
it probably,
you probably would have been happy
if it was like 65,
right?
No.
I'd slice that in half.
40?
Yeah,
it's because he's English
and it's because,
you know,
Manchester United
in the Europa League,
you know,
clubs are putting up exuberance
prices.
But then we paid 50 million
for a lad
that I've never even heard
before him.
Wambasaka,
yeah.
Who the fuck is here.
Well,
that's what I'm saying to you.
Yeah,
the guy's probably worth half that.
There you go.
Harry McGuire's worth half.
But the market's gone insane.
But I do think United would be a lot better than people are, you know, perceiving them to be ahead of this season, which obviously kicks off next weekend.
So listen, I think, you know, get one or two more players in this week.
You know, Harry McGorries, now he is a very good player.
Don't get me wrong.
I think they could be an outside show for the title.
And I think Ollie's first full preseason as well, a bit more fitness.
But, like, I mean, if we're actually going to sign a really good player,
it's going to cost us
probably a billion now
because we pay it
if you're telling me
he's not good
and we're paying 80 million
for him.
I'm not saying he's not good
he's very good player
but 80 million is extraordinary
I mean he's money
pay for a player
like Harry McGuire's quality
I was actually going to start
watching football again
because I thought we were going to get
a good player
but it turns out
that's a lot of bollocks as well
we see that's not dead in the water
yet according to the Italian media
listen don't
I won't have the Italian people
disrespective
are I'm big friends
with the Italian people
I'm saying the Italian
I'm saying the Italian
I have a lot of Italian friends
Apologies
is the Sansovin
any family.
Fabio being that.
My boy from Brescia.
There you go.
There you go.
But listen,
I'm basically running on films now.
I'm going to have to end this bad boy.
Thanks to Jack Armanson.
Thanks to Johnny Walker.
Thanks to all you beautiful people.
Thank you to Noel McGrath.
And thank you to the people of Prague
for not arresting me.
Love you all very much.
Hopefully I'll be able to talk next week.
Any parting remarks from you, Noel?
Yeah.
All right.
Here's a big kiss.
Give him one, Noel.
We're gone.
Thank you.
