MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 47 (w/ Jack Hermansson, Johnny Walker)

Episode Date: August 6, 2019

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Jack Hermansson (12:20) previews his pivotal middleweight clash with Jared Cannonier in the main event of UFC Copenhagen and Johnny Walker (42:00) underlined why he ...thinks he deserves a title date with Jon Jones should he get through Corey Anderson at UFC 244. Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath look at the latest European MMA headlines. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:46 The Downloaded 2. Ghosts in the Machine. Available now, only from Audible. We are back, episode 47 of Yorobash, and as you can see, I'm completely healthy after that stag holiday I went on last weekend. my voice has been a little bit, let's say, obscured by the events of the weekend, but I'm here to do it anyway. What's that from, Petez? I'd say it's just from singing and dancing and laughing my way through the night. Possibly could be something to do with the six hours sleep I had over the five days. But nonetheless, I'm here as always, because I love you people.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And I'm here to deliver the best, and that's exactly what we'll do. How are you, Noel McGrath? I'm good, man, yeah. I'm better than you, by all accounts, from the way you sound. but you're actually looking fresher than I expected. It's just your voice. Yeah, it's a pain of the arse of the voice. It's so annoying.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I'm the only one with a whole lot of them that the voice has gone. And it's just God's way of ruining me because he knows I had the podcast when I came like. My voice went after Porto as well. I was staying on for a few days. I was totally hoarse. Same as yourself there. Yeah, it was basically whispering when I got off the plane yesterday. When we made's was like, oh, we have to book another taxi.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I was like, yeah, fine. He's like, why are you whispering? And I was like, no, that's me shouting. This is me shouting at you. Is your throat sore? No, it's actually all right. It's just annoying, as you can probably hear. Good, good old city is Prague.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Yeah, beautiful. So many sights and wonders, things that we saw over the weekend. Fell in love with the city, really. Yeah, that's a cool place you were telling me all about. Like, you brought some of those brochures as well, like the places you saw amazing. Amazing, yeah. Me, beside all the historical landmarks. The might-robore.
Starting point is 00:02:46 We were like, do you know, that the coach trip when all the lads and L ones on a bus, that's basically us for the week. Nothing superlative wild. whatsoever of course. I'd imagine so, yeah. Let's look at these headlines. Did you, where's the, where's that music for the headlines? Yeah, well, we'll put it in.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Did you not do that, no? I'd put it in. My back is killing me in McGrath. I can't put it in. My back is killing me. From, from Harvard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. Good one, go on.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Right, let's go. GSP, close the door on the Kabeep fight. Direct quote, being the best fire in the world is not my priority anymore. That was with TSN, our good man, Aaron Bronstater. What do you think of that? Do you take that face value? Is he done? No.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I don't think... I can't ever think anyone's done. I can't until he... A GSP came back against Baseping. Totally out of the blue, really. I don't think anyone expects to come back. It's true. Obviously relinquishes title after he beat Baseping.
Starting point is 00:03:42 So who knows? The guy just comes back for big fights and big title fights and I'm not real on that one. I definitely not pizza. Derek Lewis and Blago Ivanov are going to fight at MSG at USC 244 in November. That's a good fight for Blagoe, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I know I probably favour Lewis, but I don't think Blagoe is beyond that win, to be honest. He's a tough man and he can bang. Yeah, it's one of those ones you can see going either way. You can see someone landing leather and knocking. Could be earlier. It could be a bit of a slug, yeah. Brunson getting his, not Brunson.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Lewis getting his ass kick for three rounds, and then last three seconds plant a bomb like Derek Lewis does because his balls are hot. His balls are so hot, man. Ukraine's Marionie Morose is out of our August 17th showdown with Pollyanna Botella at UFC 241.
Starting point is 00:04:29 That's an unfortunate one for Marion to miss out on but undisclosed injury as far as far from the card. SBG's Brad Gatona will take on Hunter Azure and Sergei Kandosko will take on the Brazilian highlight reel Michael Pereira who he saw defeat Danny Roberts in his debut
Starting point is 00:04:46 that's going to happen at UFC Vancouver on September 14th. Also on that card, Marvin Vittoria stepped in to replace David Branch. He's going to take on Andrew Sanchez. Former KSW champion, Ariane Lipski, will try to get her first UFC win when she takes on Priscilla Cachewara
Starting point is 00:05:03 at UFC South Paulo on November 16th. And one of my prospects of 2019 to watch out for Carl Albrexson has signed for Bellator. I mean, that's a great move with their link with Ryzen there. He's obviously competing in Ryzen on a number of occasions, so I feel like that's a good shout. Carlo Pettersolli has announced
Starting point is 00:05:20 that he has signed for Bellator. Tor after his three-fights stint with the UFC. I think that's another good move as well, given that Bellator so prevalent lately, you know? Yeah, definitely. Milan show announced. Yes, absolutely. And just for that Milan show, actually,
Starting point is 00:05:34 Melvin Manoff will take on Team Renegades, Yanik Bahaddy, Alessio Saccara will take on Kane and Grubsky, and Raphael Carvalio will make his Lloyd Heavyweight debut against Vadim Nemcoff. That's all going down on Milan, as we said, on October 12th.
Starting point is 00:05:49 So that's the newest headlines. I probably miss. a few because I was out of action. Some talking points up before we get on with the first interview today. Cobby Covington, you are tweeting a lot about this over the weekend. Fantastic. Yeah, brilliant, brilliant fight, no doubt about it.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Has he gone too far with this Matt Hughes talk, I guess, is the line that a lot of people seem to be saying. It was quite shocking. When we were in a tiny bar, watching on phones at the main event. And after it, I got my phone, and I saw Ariel's tweet where he said, what Covington said and I passed around a table
Starting point is 00:06:22 and all the boys' jaws hit the floor. You wonder though what Colby was that, you know, pre rehearsed, did he get a blessing beforehand to make a little bit of joke of it? Because Matt Hughes came out and post something online very soon after. You know, he does play the heel thing. He's been a pro wrestler
Starting point is 00:06:38 before. You know, he stumbled his words a little bit when he said MSG which was a bit cringe. So you know, sort of says to me maybe he had a blessing for Matthews. I don't know. This is me just just obviously speculating. But yeah, you know, if it wasn't a prior blessing, it was a terrible, terrible thing to say.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Yeah, it's a terrible thing to say as well, but I saw some of the reaction, like people holding up, Matt Hughes, like he's this Jesus, like, I mean, the guy, the guys has a very patchy record away from the Octagon, let's say. So, yeah, I didn't really, yeah, okay, you shouldn't probably say something like that,
Starting point is 00:07:11 but I don't think Matt Hughes is, other people have said stuff about, you know, other guys who've had records. I think it's just people are getting themselves, a little bit clouder with their judgment. Like, you know, even if you look at a, you know, what's his face fight in a couple of weeks ago, light heavyweight, former NFL player.
Starting point is 00:07:29 What's his name? Your big fan of his, Greg Hardy. Greg Hardy. Yeah, you love him. Yeah, he's, like that. Him and Colby are your favourite fighters. But listen, Colby, in terms of what he said, man, he's always looking for eyes.
Starting point is 00:07:38 People were biting debate again on Saturday night, tweeting. You should have seen it. And listen, you know, Colby Covington and Camar Usman were trending here in Dublin on Twitter, which was brilliant. I just think it shows you how much interest. this guy's gain, the much traction he has now at the moment. Listen, man, it's, you know, if you're taking this shit seriously, the Caldby comes out and said, you're a bigger idiot.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Because that's what he wants to do. It's hilarious. I saw some people saying, like, can we stop talking about playing heel? Because this is M.M.A. But that's actually what he's doing. That's what he's doing. If you think this is what Caldby Coffin is like, when he sees his mom and dad, you're mentally.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He's a great guy. I've shot him to, obviously, off air a load of times. Tell us how you really feel, Noel. He's he did invite me to his sex party. No, listen to me, you know, he's been in TNA before. he's actually competed in TNA with the ATT guys. So, yeah, listen, making what you want. You're a bigger clown if you're going to take all this personally and stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:30 He's putting eyes on himself and he's done it. And you've the Trump's as well, Donald Trump tweeting about him and recall him afterwards as well. I can see this. I can see, like I saw Casey Lloyd and then some other people talking about. People who are in US are going to have a way better understanding of the vibrations this is going to cause. I do feel that's going to be a Kabeeb McGregor cell, you know, a controversy, you know, with everything that's going on with the states. Like this is exactly what we're talking about
Starting point is 00:08:52 for a long time of Colby and Ferguson Missouri native Tyrone Woodley. We knew it was going to press a lot of buttons and I think it's clear that those buttons will be pressed and maybe then we will be talking about, okay, this has gone too far. With the political structure that's in place in the United States, as you just said,
Starting point is 00:09:09 there with Donald Trump, with all the people obviously hating against them and the, you know, the accusations made against him and what kind of person he is, yes, Of course it will. I will put eyes on... I'm not talking about putting eyes. I'm talking about it stirring up a lot of emotions.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Oh yes, it will. It will. And I think that's why the eyes will be put on because the emotions have been stirred. Yeah, it's interesting enough. I actually saw Tommy Tohold talking about this. He isn't quite the draw that, you know, that we feel he is, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:40 Me and you talking about him, we feel like he's getting these so many eyes. They compared his post-fight interview, which was huge, like really, which felt big at the time, to other interviews that happen this year and it's still way below it where in terms of what like USA's YouTube say like the big interviews of the year
Starting point is 00:09:57 Nunesz, Masvedal, all these people he's like half of the traction that they're getting you know so I still think it's a it's a developing brand you know but I do feel I agree with you if they make Usman thing in New York at MSG be absolutely mental
Starting point is 00:10:13 and I think as well as you said there a bit of work in progress I think you know you've done Trump, you've a son there, you've the two Trump signs... Look at a smile on your face when you mention Donald Trump's name. Sitting there. Massive fan of his as well, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Listen, the two sons were sitting there, the daughter was sitting there. When you've people like that going to your events, you've Donald Trump tweeting about it, that is going to put eyes on you. Are you looking for an invite to the White House? I am, of course I am. Sounds like it. All right, Chris Seiborg. Chris Seiburg has been cut from the UFC,
Starting point is 00:10:42 and to be fair, she admitted that our production team had falsified down a statement in the video release. And I knew that was something fishy about that because when you watch it they have in brackets as in, oh, because I was lying. And you don't see him say it. And I was like, that is a weird cut. That is a very strange
Starting point is 00:10:58 cut to put words in his mouth like that. And I'd say that's probably why he said, you know what? Strada broke the camel's back. These two have had serious problems since the get-go, since even before the gecko. So I think it's probably the best thing to do. Let's get rid of it. Let's just go and
Starting point is 00:11:14 go our separate ways. I think they were going to make the fight. And I think the reason why, you Now, Dane is going to say things that he doesn't mean at times, as he said in that piece. I think that's the part where... He didn't say things he didn't mean. What I think he was saying, he goes, oh, you have to say things. To promote a fight? He has to say things to keep both so it's happy, basically.
Starting point is 00:11:33 So sometimes he's not able to say this is happening, this is what's happening. He's playing a weird balancing act. But I think she should understand as a fighter that a promoter sometimes has to says things that he doesn't mean in order to promote the fight. So I don't see anything wrong with that. And I think her exposing that really obviously was the final nail on the coffin. But for both them. Yeah, I don't think, I don't think it's fair to say that she should just understand it, given the amount of the shit that she's had with the UFC.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Yeah, yeah. You know, it's not just like maybe if it was another fighter who had never had a bad issue with them and it happened, then you can go, oh yeah, fair enough. I think she's going to be big business wherever she goes. And I can imagine it's going to be Bellator that Julia Budd fight. Yeah, no, yeah, you'd imagine Bellator going to go after her now, as you said there. But, yeah, listen, you know, I think it's, I'm disappointed. that I would like to see the Nunez rematch.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I would have. Yeah, it would have been huge for a Nunes and Soybar, but these things happen and to be honest, it's been such a mess. It's probably the good thing. It has. It has been a mess.
Starting point is 00:12:27 All right, let's move on to our first interview of the day. I caught up on one of the breakout stars of the sport in 2019, the fighting pro to Sweden, Norway, and Scandinavian general. It's Mr. Jack Hermanson, who takes on Jared Kahn here
Starting point is 00:12:38 in the main event of the U.S.C. Copenhagen on September 28. Great stuff here from Jack. And, you know, we kind of said when this fight was announced, been looking for a Gasselma or Romero, he comes off with a Cairneur. Was he a bit annoyed about that? What do you think?
Starting point is 00:12:52 I'd imagine so, yeah, I haven't heard the interview, but yeah, you would think so. But listen, as we said about Jared Carnier, you know, he went into Arnold's backyard, where you like it or not, he stopped Anderson Silva. Yeah, but it was injury. Without a doubt, Hermanson has everything to lose in that fight, you know? He does, he does. But, look, we got his thoughts. Jack was very open, as always, gave us a great interview, so we'll be back in about 15.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And now, as promised, we are joined by the man who is going to headline that UFC Copenhagen card at the end of September against Jared Kahneneer. Mr. Jack Hermanson. First of all, Jack, how are you, my friend? Very fine, thank you. Had a great summer so far. Yeah, getting ready to fight. Yes, and of course you're going to look to add to that amazing four-fight run you're on at the moment. But, you know, it makes perfect sense for you to headline this card.
Starting point is 00:13:41 How happy are you that that's finally official? now I know we already knew it, but just to have that fight in place, it's only been made official in the last week. Yeah, it's great to have it official, you know, so we can talk openly about it. And, you know, it's been some basketball since a while back. And, you know, finally, the fans are, know, know what they will get, you know, there will be a lot of talk. It's going to be me and gasoline or whoever, but now they know. And, yeah, it's going to be great to headline. a card almost at home.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yes, yes, and I was going to say that to you. You mentioned the fans there. At that UFC Stockholm Q&A, I was taken aback by how much the fans had kind of got behind you. I mean, you seemed to really resonate with them that day. Was that a big moment for you, or are you used to that kind of thing?
Starting point is 00:14:32 Or do you think these wins have kind of grown your status over there? Yeah, I feel definitely like I have elevated this as a, you know, a fighter and a fan favorite. And I feel like the Scandinavian fans are really getting behind me. And I think they will have my back all the way now when we continue to rise. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And of course, Alexander Gustafsson recently retired. So, I mean, the pressure is even more now, right? You're going to have to... You've got big boots to fill. Yeah, I feel great to be in that position. Alex has been a great ambassador for the sport here. And, you know, it's really important that we get someone else to fill his shoes and, you know, to continue to make the MMA fans here happy.
Starting point is 00:15:33 So I'm happy to be the person. Were you shocked by that? I mean, it took me by surprise, to be honest. Were you shocked by that, um, when he were talking about, after that UFC Stockholm fight? I wasn't super surprised, but it's still, you know, I felt it. I really like, I felt sad, you know, he has really been a big star over here, and it's been a great inspiration for so many, you know, and so it was a sad moment in a way,
Starting point is 00:16:07 but I wasn't shocked by it. He has been expressed in the last couple of years that his motivation has been a little bit up and down and I think he really had John Jones in his head and when that wasn't the case anymore, you know, no, I wasn't surprised. Do you think it's going to remain though? Because as we know in MMA,
Starting point is 00:16:30 they seem to change their minds very quickly when they retire in this game, right? Yeah, exactly. But I'm not sure. but Alex feels like really one of those guys that can enjoy himself away from the crowd and away from the attention. He's a loner and I think he will enjoy himself. But you never know, you know. Have you been a competitor?
Starting point is 00:16:58 Then you will always miss that. So you never know. Absolutely. Now, I wanted to ask because the last time we were speaking to you, Jack, you were kind of telling us that, you know, Gasselma or Romero, they were the ideal candidates for you. Those are the guys you wanted to fight. You know, Cana Nair of course is on a good run, and he's gathered momentum quickly in the division. But were you hoping to get one of those guys? Were you hoping for a bigger name for this fight? Yeah, for sure, you know. I have to, you know, but in the end of the day, I want to stay active, you know, and I want to headline this car.
Starting point is 00:17:32 and when they couldn't get me gas lim and I knew that Romero is booked with Costa then I was just like who is the next one and they told me that yeah you will get canon here and so yeah you know he's a dangerous opponent
Starting point is 00:17:54 and and a lot of people you know especially the fans are telling me why are you doing this you know instead of like, yes, great, we will have you in Copenhagen. People are just like, you shouldn't take this fight. Yes, because he's got a lot to gain, right? When you look at your situation and Jared's done great now since he's moved to middleweight,
Starting point is 00:18:17 but it still feels as though you're kind of in different situations, whereas you are knocking on the door of that title contention. And, you know, to be fair to Canaaner, he's just kind of arrived, right? Yeah, exactly. So we're definitely in different positions. but, you know, I want to show everybody that I am the best and I can beat anyone, you know. He shouldn't be able to meet me if I feel like I'm the best in the world, which I do. So, yeah, I will have to show everybody that I will take care of business.
Starting point is 00:18:54 And, yeah, then I think it's my turn again to get a big one. Yes, yes, and I mean, I saw that Gastilum, he spoke to my colleague, Damon Martin, at the very end of June, and he had kind of said he wanted to fight you, but it couldn't be until November and Madison Square Garden. So I'm wondering, is that just too long for you to wait? Or could you just not pass up main eventing a fight in Denmark? Because I know you, Jack, and I know you would have really wanted to compete on that card, you know? And you have a problem turning down fights. Let's be honest. You never turned down fights.
Starting point is 00:19:30 yeah that's the you know i don't like to turn down the and also the uc you know they they need a main event there so and you know as i said before i want to be that that guy in skinnavia that that has that place so and also you know i think it's been for me to get another main event to build my name you know and get even more
Starting point is 00:20:05 recognition from from the worldwide UC fans because I think that's also important for the UFC that they you know before they throw me in or give me a title shot I think they want to you know be able to make a big fight and to be able to do that it's It's important that, you know, I, yeah, the fans all around the world know who I am. So I think it's a good thing, you know, to have a main event to continue to build my name and get ready for that big title show. You know, as I said, I know the kind of guy you wear and I know that you like to fight as often as possible. I know it's something you're working on, you're trying to be a bit more selective, a bit more cautious, but, you know, I'm wondering if you come out of this fight unscathed. Would you like to get on that MSG card against Gasselm if it was a
Starting point is 00:21:03 possibility? Huge venue, very iconic, but it is a very, very quick turnaround. Yeah. I can already hear the wheels going in your head. You're already going, I think I can do it. Not impossible at all, you know, but we will see, you know, the thing is that I think that Romero and Costa is going to fight before that they're going to fight like in August aren't they right right right and then yeah okay yeah so
Starting point is 00:21:39 depending on how that goes you know there might not be another guy besides me to step in there for the next title challenge after this one anyway so we'll see but if not you know
Starting point is 00:22:02 yeah I would love to fight in my my son's guard against gasoline that would be a great fight but yeah we'll see it's yeah of course a lot has to happen right like a lot we have we have to wait and see how it plays out to some extent because this sport it changes so quickly right yeah there's so many things happening now you know but
Starting point is 00:22:25 Romero Costa fight and then Easy and Withiger are On October 6th right? Yeah exactly The week after what do you think of that one I mean do you do you have a pick for that fight? Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:38 I have Whiziger as a favorite But it's a tough fight for For Mike they are awesome Awesome fighters So looking forward to see how that one plays out And yeah Do you believe the person who wins the title that night
Starting point is 00:22:54 that will be the person that you eventually fight for the belt? I think so, yeah. So you're going to be very interested watching that one. Yeah, for sure. That's what it's about for me. It's all about that big title, that goal. That's my dream, and that's where I keep in my eyes. You know, do you believe that you can make a big statement here
Starting point is 00:23:19 because we see it so often, Darren Till in Liverpool, Connor McGregor in Ireland, you know, just when you have, I know it's not exactly home. It's not Norway or Sweden, but you know, you guys all kind of support each other over there. That's something I've noticed. Like, do you feel as though if you put on a spectacular performance, like you have been against the Canaanere,
Starting point is 00:23:38 and they see what you mean to the people over there that will be a big moment for your career? Do you believe this could be one of the bigger moments of your career? Yeah, I really believe so. And I feel like the performance in itself is going to be very important. important to what happens next, you know. If it's going to be a really dominant victory that, you know, really goes viral, that's what you prefer, and that would lead to the biggest things. So that's what I'm going for.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Well, well, I can't wait to see it. I was just wondering, did you notice that there's a Bellator card on in Europe that weekend as well? There's one going down in Dublin. I mean, some people over here are talking about can Bellator kind of win over some of the support that weekend? It's got some of their bigger names, MVP, and James Galaher and stuff. Do you feel as though the brand is strong enough to compete with UFC at this stage yet? I'm not sure about the numbers in the last live event that they had here in Europe. So I think that will be a pretty good way to...
Starting point is 00:24:52 Yeah, indicator to measure. But then again, the UFC didn't find, wasn't in the same time as Belton last time, so I believe. So, no, you know, I don't think that's going to be a problem. I think the majority of the tickets are already sold out, so people are not going to change the plan. Yes, yes, I agree, I agree.
Starting point is 00:25:22 to see some other Scandinavian fighters on the card, including Nicholas Dalby making his return and Gunnar Nelson. I'm super happy for Nicholas, you know. He's been a friend of mine for many years and he really is a great fighter, so he deserves the spot and I'm sure he's going to do great. Well, Jack, thank you so much for talking to us again. It's always a pleasure. I am aware that the last time we had a conversation about will you take this fight if this
Starting point is 00:25:48 wins, that was when you beat David Branch and then just a couple of weeks. later you went on and fought Hanalo Sosa so. So I think it's a good omen to bring into the fight card anyway and I wish you all the best my friend. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me again. Always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks Jack. All the best. Bye-bye. Thank you. Bye-bye. And it was great to speak to Jack Hermanson again. Huge fight there in Copenhagen for him now at the end of September. Massive. Massive. He doesn't seem to think that Bellator Dublin can compete with the El Copenhagen card. Maybe there's a lot more interest in Ireland but I think I agree with them in terms of Europe in general
Starting point is 00:26:24 you know? Yeah, interesting one I think No man I think the You know the Bellator looking at the card in Dublin This card's a bit more stacked Which one? Which card? This Bellator card that's coming to Dublin Compared to the last one terms of matches
Starting point is 00:26:40 You have a different scope No, I'm talking about online traction and stuff like that Yeah, I know but it's different scope Because you write for an Irish publication So I mean of course More people are going to Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe yeah But I thought you know the Bellator numbers even
Starting point is 00:26:52 from the stuff Bellator put out the last time we're pretty high so it'd be interesting to see it will be it will well let's take a look at the Europeans that are in action first we'll get on to Colby and the rest of that later he was on the podcast last week and we were already singing his praises but my word Nazra Hackperas what a performance he didn't but he can fight man
Starting point is 00:27:10 looks like once that MacDessie fight he was initially meant to fight I think back in March old team rates I think that's a good fight for him he's a bangor he's so heavy hands you know we said it a long long time ago about Hackperast that we both think he's the potential to be a world champion. And I think that underlined and solidify what the guy can do in terms of that power,
Starting point is 00:27:28 that overhand right. He's just bringing different facets every time to his game. Stunning performance from him again. And a guy, I think now this year in the next 12 months, they're going to have to seriously start looking at it, giving him a little bit of a bigger push because this guy is absolutely phenomenal athlete. And as what you said... 23 years of age, as you pointed out last week.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Yeah. As what you said last week as well about for us, Zahabhi saying to you, in how much, Hamburg that this guy's a world champion in the making and I think you know he's all the right tails to do it so I'm very excited to see what he does in the next 12 months definitely it's funny right and this happens a lot with Eurobatch because we are the championship builders as we know yes they do a interview with us I put out the interview before they fight everybody's going who the fuck is that guy and then the next day when they win they're like I've been
Starting point is 00:28:13 talking about this guy for years is our fucking dopes Jesus Christ it wrecks me head so stupid always happens always happens fuck him oh so so thick but um yeah no this guy he's class he's brilliant
Starting point is 00:28:27 and I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do and 23 that's the last thing what game Silva has been defeated once before that in his career like and you know
Starting point is 00:28:35 I just think but the age the age is scary yeah it is it is scary like you you give got the guy another five years before he even hits his prime
Starting point is 00:28:44 but did you see did you notice how he basically just didn't do much for the first round just basically on oh I'm gonna read this read this all right and look
Starting point is 00:28:51 Sylva's in intimidating going to fight. He's throwing loads of things, everything at you. And it was just like he walked down in the second round. He's like, all right, now we've got to raid. And I think as well, another thing, he doesn't take any fucking damage as well, which is beautiful face. Very little damage.
Starting point is 00:29:06 What a handsome, handsome man. He's doing everything the right way, definitely. He is indeed. Darko Stosage, look, he's after taking two big blows as far as I'm concerned to his stock now. Low kicks, costing the fight. He's kicking up against a really tall dude. I get it. It was bound to happen, but
Starting point is 00:29:22 when the referee specifically says to you mate you have to stop doing this this is going to call basically telling them you're going to ruin yourself here continues to do it I just can't get over that lack of IQ you know he's lost momentum now two lost on the truck and I was saying after his debut against Kimble he flatlined Kimball
Starting point is 00:29:41 in the first round and now he just looks like a guy that's too muscular and too short to compete at Lee Heavyweight and as you said there are a guy who's ran out of ideas and you know poor Ike Q as you said and you know it does happen sometimes when they when guys get a loss even in a promotion or you know the first loss of their career that we often talk about that and how they bounce back
Starting point is 00:30:01 psychologically he could be very damaged after that so it's just like look very interesting I think um like I even was there with my friend Steve Morty's a he's a great personal trainer he's ripped like and um as ripped as you no you know don't be silly but he's like he'd be quite a squat guy as well like really muscular not like probably the same height as me and he was just looking looking at him going like that's not like it's not an athletic shape you know he's just like this guy he's assaught after one round and you could see that like he was kind of looking desperate as soon as
Starting point is 00:30:29 as the first round finished and he didn't get a finish like the thing that annoyed me about it is Kenny and juku wasn't even showing him anything crazy and you're just like are you serious this is it like um look i thought he was one of the most terrifying prospects at two o five and him and rackich i kind of had them in a similar regard at one stage and look it's completely changed now rackage is flying better this guy really needs to work on a lot of things and he needs to consider his future a low heavyweight as far as I'm concerned
Starting point is 00:30:53 Mickey Gal just about got through Polans Tuari a bit of a face plant with that Diego Sanchez call nice burp there
Starting point is 00:31:01 by the way again though thanks very much absolutely disgusting I'm drinking a bottle of coke back is killing me Mike Perry giving him a bit of shit
Starting point is 00:31:10 probably changed the narrative from that Diego call out a bit but what is your take on Gal I think you know
Starting point is 00:31:17 I feel like he's dropped off a lot right oh yeah he's dropped off a huge man. Jesus. No,
Starting point is 00:31:23 let's be honest about it. Like, he has. He came in with all his hype because he was fighting in CM Punk.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And one thing I will say, he was rushed to the UFC. Yeah, he was. And you know, you're going to take that opportunity against Scott, like CM Punk and obviously the fight against it was Mike Brown or,
Starting point is 00:31:37 sorry, Michael Jackson or whatever, his name is, I can't remember the former MMA writer that he fought to face CM Punk. But yeah, he's lost a lot of momentum. Obviously he had that loss to Sage.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Was it? Was it? Sage loss? Yeah, I think so. And then, then he just hasn't really built on from a guy who's obviously very good in the deck. We haven't seen any evolution in his game. And I'm just, I'm just a little bit sort of perplexed to see his trajectory go up so high and then down.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And no one really cares when Mickey Gall fights anymore if we're honest about it. Like, you know, it doesn't stick off the card like it did in the first couple of fights. And like calling out Diego Sanchez hardly won that everyone's going to be like, oh my God, I can't wait to see that. I couldn't give a shit and I don't want to see it. Like that's how I'd feel about that, to be honest to Mickey. Good man. He was a nice guy. You met him over in London. Decent fella, decent game. But God, man, you know, Diego Sanchez. If you're calling it Diego
Starting point is 00:32:29 Sanchez, where do you really want to go in your career? We watched this on a series of phones, as I was saying about it. We went to one bar, 25 English lads locked out our minds. And I was like, if we stay here, this is going to get fucking ugly. To be UFC and Prague all over again. So we went outside and we just said, right, let's move on, went down to the next pub, bunch of like 50-year-old English lads outside. And as soon as we walk in, they start going. I was like, all right, let's go. go somewhere else,
Starting point is 00:32:52 ended up watching it on our phones. But yeah, all the boys reckon Mickey Gal looks like Matt Dylan and there's something about Mary he does a little bit actually
Starting point is 00:33:01 yeah, he does, doesn't he? Always piss myself. Yeah, that's not a bad comparison at all actually thinking about.
Starting point is 00:33:05 For lads you've been barely seeing for their nose as I thought it was a pretty good shout. Listen, in all fairness to Mickey just wrap this up,
Starting point is 00:33:11 you know, obviously very, very good on the deck but you just wonder how far he's going to go. He hasn't really evolved an awful lot. You know,
Starting point is 00:33:20 just lacking a bit interest for me at the moment. Yeah, I agree with you. I love his entrance music, though, I will say. Yes, and then we course, we had Anthony O'Sherchenko getting her first career submission win with that rear naked choke of Czech Republic's news he put it over. What's your thinking of that, Noel?
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yeah, no, I wasn't particularly happy about it. I thought it was, you know, he checked a couple of times and then, you know, stopped the fight. I think when he checked a hand twice, he should have realized that her hand was limp and she was out. I just wasn't happy with the time between he checked the first, hand and the time she was out it was probably about seven to eight seconds and um just you know a little bit
Starting point is 00:33:57 more decisiveness in a decision i'd like to see from the official on that occasion i thought he was very thorough and i feel like which way do we want it right because everyone's given out about herb and uh doing the uh Robbie luller and Ascran and if he had used the same protocol on Ascran and Robbie we may have had a fight continue I think uh you're right in the stretch that like the time is what everyone's worried about but it's a different story you're just a different story I think when someone's caving your head in with elbows and punches, just in terms of the damage you can do to someone. And I feel like maybe when he checks the left hand twice at the start,
Starting point is 00:34:31 I think he even kind of doubts that what he's seeing is real, because he's like maybe she's posting on this fist at the moment or just move to post on it, and that's why it's stuck to the ground, goes over to your side and checks it. Yeah, it is long. That's my concern, is the length. Yeah, I get it. But I mean, I don't think we should call him for the guys head.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I don't think you are calling for the guy's head, but I did see people. And I feel like it's just the age of outrage now. We're just going to keep on crying every time we see I need be slightly wrong. Such mony fuckers. Someone isn't that fucking rage today. I'm not a rage. I'm criticising. I'm criticising the need for the media to be outraged by something every single event.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I'm not. I'm not outraged at all. A lot of people are. A lot of people. Never let him referee again. Yeah, that's bollocks. Has he never seen a rare-naked choke before? it's all that's bullshit um you know you learn lessons from these last week it was let's for a joe rogan
Starting point is 00:35:24 do i mean like come on that was absolutely appalling by the way and people should be ashamed of themselves for putting that at john onick and joe rogan have to fire someone every week that's the way we're at now with this and then actually just to mention that laura sancoe was getting death threats after the weekend as well so you're an absolutely disgrace whoever was putting that out yeah and she posts on her twitter there last night absolutely disgusting animals you shouldn't even be you know is that really this sport yeah what did you do you do you do that's not I don't even know. Just unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Just her job probably. I think it was their interview with Dana White. Just shocking, man. Absolutely shocking. She works for the UFC guys. Come on. Unbelievable. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I can't believe that. Yeah. Yeah. And Laura's a lovely girl as we know. And it's like that's totally unacceptable to be posting shit like that to people threatening them and like their family. Unbelievable. That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Brazilian by way of London, Claudio Silva increases around to 14 straight wins. with a first round slope over Carl Williams. And I mean, we've said this before. It's shocking how much better he is than guys when he hits the ground with him. Like, I mean, he is three fights ago. Like his last win is over, like, I mean, three fights ago, he beat Leon Edwards, should I say. Yeah, unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:36:36 It was, you know, this guy, if it wasn't for his injuries, and he had this streak, there'd be a lot of people talking about him now, or there'd be a lot of people crying to be talking about him now. You know, three, four years out, I think it was. Very unfortunate. it. But look at the momentum he's put together when he's had like a year of three fights. It's scary. This guy, man,
Starting point is 00:36:54 is so good. So good when he gets on the deck. Let's just hope he can keep this run up and, you know, get his just desserts because he was out for those four years and I put a run together because listen, the guy is basically English anyway. We can call him European, I think, at this day. Yeah, I was actually trying to call to text him.
Starting point is 00:37:10 John, when you're just like getting onto their Instagram. How are you doing, man? I'm really important. Will you talk to me? No message back. But yeah, let's talk out Colby again. We talked about a bit, the Uzman fight is the one that has to happen. It has to, like the way they've positioned them there afterwards, it has to happen, right?
Starting point is 00:37:26 Yeah, you know, Dana said it, which doesn't mean an awful lot these days, as we well know, but very interesting in my opinion, because I think Colby was coming at one point, like the Tony Ferguson of the lightweight division where you know, how many more fights is he have to do in order to get a title shot.
Starting point is 00:37:42 And, you know, this is undeniable now, especially after that performance, you know, the most shots thrown in a UFC contest ever was incredible. 520 strikes, I believe he threw in the fight. Average one every 2.38 seconds, I think it was, something like that crazy. Absolutely brilliant. And, you know, he doesn't have the biggest power on his hands, but it's just Robbie Lawler
Starting point is 00:38:02 didn't know what to do in terms of the volume that he was thrown at him. He kept him guessing he threw the odd kick in there, stepped back to reassess things. It was a really cool, calm, calculate performance. And the most impressive thing for me about this performance was the fact he suffered a cut four weeks ago in training and he actually couldn't wrestle or spar all he was doing was physical fitness and it just shows you how fit the guys
Starting point is 00:38:26 that guy looked like you could have gone for another three or four rounds dude I think it's gonna be a really interesting fight because I was outstanding like I couldn't believe my jaw hit the ground when Cameroosman fought Tyron Woodley the way he fought Tyron and I feel like both of these guys are going to put on a really energetic fight
Starting point is 00:38:41 and look as much as I said earlier in the first segment of the show that it's going to store up emotion you have to make this fight if you're the young see. 100%. I'll tell you another thing as well and I want to actually ask you this
Starting point is 00:38:52 you know, a lot of people I saw oh you know Robbie didn't look good it was a matter of you know I saw it all over you have a lad punch you in the face
Starting point is 00:39:00 100 times in five minutes and see how you feel. Exactly. That's my point here where I'm trying to get across I think it was the fact that Covington was just so good that he didn't let Lawler
Starting point is 00:39:09 do anything in terms of the volume as we just told about there what would your your thoughts be on people saying shit like that I don't go along with that at all well when he fought Asker and everyone was saying you just denied Robbie fought way better and now he's shite
Starting point is 00:39:22 all of a sudden as far as this fan base thing unbelievable look Robbie said after the fight they were kind of saying a lot of people are talking about your output Robbie etc and he was just like man you try and fight that guy he's trying to punch it in the face a million times you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:39:37 his output was crazy and you could see Robbie in the last round he's trying to get Colby to give him something like he's rocking back and forth just throw something a bit off centre something so I can catch you he just wasn't allowing him
Starting point is 00:39:50 to breathe yeah it was unbelievable totally and the composure as well was fantastic you know never panicked
Starting point is 00:39:56 once got tagged a couple of times just a thoroughly impressive performance piece from Kobe Covington and you know if they don't make this fight
Starting point is 00:40:05 they're a bunch of total and other assholes in my opinion because it certainly needs to happen in you know Madison Square Garden as well you know no brain or if they can put
Starting point is 00:40:14 on a you know a mega card there with, you know, maybe Habib if the turn around is quick enough. Absolutely, absolutely. Jim Miller just wanted to say something about Jim, that was unbelievable. That guillotine, like a guillotine isn't something
Starting point is 00:40:27 that you can catch a lot of people unless you're like a master of it, you know what I mean? And to do with the clay guida. Unbelievable. Gita threw his head in very sloppy, though, but it was, you know, excellent, astute awareness from Jim Miller
Starting point is 00:40:39 to grab his head and obviously put the guillotine in. But I was a little bit surprised that that Gita went in. where he did. So he shot in between his arm a perfect position. That's day one you did to you. You're not meant to, that's like you can take down with your head in the outside. So, yeah, surprised at Clay Gita. You know, really good stuff from Miller and the guy, you know, for a guy you used to have, you know, Lyme's disease and shit like that. Just a turnaround is just incredible. And, you know, a real, a real sort of feel-good story for
Starting point is 00:41:08 Jim Miller and his home state as well of New Jersey. Absolutely. Let's get on on our second interview of the day. It is Mr. Johnny Wall. and ESPN. I've just reported that that fight with Cory Anderson is on the verge of being signed. So we got his thoughts on all of these wonderful things and how he feels about being an Irish man all of a sudden since he popped up in SBG last week because that's what we think he is. So we'll talk to Johnny. We'll talk to Johnny Walker when we're back about 15. And now we are joined by a man who everybody in Ireland has been talking about, a guy who spent the week here training in SBG, I believe, and a man who has,
Starting point is 00:41:46 is reportedly about to fight Corey Anderson at UFC 244 in New York. It is one of the most entertaining fighters in the world. Mr. Johnny Walker. How are you, my friend? I'm okay, my friend. How are you? I am fantastic now that I'm talking to you. I must ask you first of all, because I know all of our Irish listeners are going to want to know. How did you enjoy Ireland? Very good. My first Guinness two days ago and I enjoy very nice place, good weather. It's not too cold like, like I think it should be, but I like her. Yeah. Well, I got to ask Johnny because it's the talk of the world, the MMA world today. ESPN have just reported that you and Corey Anderson's fight for UFC 244 is in the works. It seems like it's going to happen. Are you confident that it will
Starting point is 00:42:40 happen? Of course, I can wait to fight again. After my surgery, you know, like five months ago, no fight, no nothing. I come to like, I fight like three, three times in, I think four months or less. I do know, like I like to be very active. Then I stopped myself for the last five months. Now I'm back and I can wait to fight again. Yes, and I mean, it seems like it's a great fight for you because Corey believes he's right on the verge of fighting for a title, you have been saying for a long time that you are ready to fight for a title. Do you believe that he is the man that can unlock the door for a title shot for you? No, nobody can lock no door for me. No, unlock. He is the one that will allow you. If you win, you will go through to fight for the
Starting point is 00:43:31 title. I don't know. I hope so. If not, I will keep, beat somebody. I don't know. Anyone, any time, anywhere, just send the location, I'll be there. Do you respect Corey? Do you believe that he is an elite Lloyd heavyweight because he has made so many improvements. He has been looking very good lately. What do you think of him? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:55 he's good, but if I want to be a champ, I don't have two words with him. I have two words with the champ, I have to beat the champion. I have to be ready for beat the champion, you know? If I'm ready for the champion, I'm ready for him as well. Yes. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And I mean, what do you think is the biggest challenge if you fight Corey? Where do you feel he is strongest? I don't know. I have to be there to few because we never fights. And every fight is different fights. I think he's strong and has a good wheelchair. But everybody knows everything today, you know. And you have to be read for any situation, any techniques, like box, or my tie, or wester, jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 00:44:39 So you have to be read because you don't be surprised if it happened something wrong, you know? Yes, yes. Does it mean a lot to you to fight in Madison Square Garden? Is that an exciting thing for you? Yeah, of course. I don't feel pressure in no fighting, nowhere, you know. For me, I feel like home everywhere where I am. And I just will be very, very happy.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Like, I mean, you've put this incredible run together, Johnny, all first round. knockouts, Khalil Roundtree, Justin Liddette, Misha Sarkinoff. Do you believe, like you... Cory Anderson?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yes, yes. Do you believe this is what's going to happen to Corey Anderson? Yeah, if not, I can submit him or win by point. I think I need show
Starting point is 00:45:27 because everybody think I have no good ground game or no good Western. Man, I train everything. I'm brown belt, BJJ, and I train a lot of
Starting point is 00:45:38 Westerners. Well, I'm red. I just don't have time to show my whole game. I don't need to show my whole game as well. It's good to people think I don't have nothing, you know, no good grounds game, no way or something like this. It's good to people think it like this. Because I don't have to show it.
Starting point is 00:45:55 When I show, I will surprise somebody, you know? Yes, yes. And that's very exciting because you have looked amazing when standing up so far. So, I mean, to think that you believe you are just as good on the ground, that's a very exciting thing for fans to look out for. Yeah, of course. I think maybe I have to show something in the ground is out to people like more, me, you know. I have a lot of things to show. I show nothing yet. Wow, well. And I mean, it feels like to me that if you won this fight, I think the John Jones fight is very likely. And John Jones has been a guy who has said, I think Johnny needs to fight better guys. There's nobody beyond, like really, Corey is the next guy. And then there's John Jones. So, I believe this is the right guy to fight if you are looking for that championship belt.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yeah, I don't know what John Jones will say after this fight, because I hear he say I need 25 minutes before I'm read to him. If every fight that I make, supposed to like one minute, I need then 25 fights if I finish all of the fight in the first minutes, I don't know. I don't know what he waits, but I'm ready to him. You know, what do you think of John? Like, I mean, a lot of people seem to think that he didn't look that good against your fellow Brazilian Tiago Santos. But I think Tiago just looked very, very good that night.
Starting point is 00:47:17 What did you think of that fight? Yeah, I was there. I watched this fight. And it's a great fight. John Jones respect Tiago and Tiago respect John Jones, don't know. But I think, you know, John Jones can't have a very good control game. And he just don't want to risk himself for that fight because he's, you know, He knows Tiago has a good hand, and he can have power to knock out him as well.
Starting point is 00:47:43 But Tiago has injury in his knee, both knee, a very bad injury. He got a lot of surgery. And John John's need like five minutes to beat one guy with a lot of injuries, you know. He can do better. I know John John can do better than this. This is because I want to fight him because I know I can give him the proper fight. Then I will push him to fight better to show who is John John. Then everybody will see who is the Rio champion.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Yes, and I mean, like, the one thing I thought was impressive about the fight with Jones was he did stand with Tiago. That's where Tiago is very strong in the stand. Yeah. But do you feel like he would stand with you? Because your striking is so unpredictable and you're so powerful. Do you believe that John would be forced to take you down because you are just so powerful and so unorthodox? It's very hard to predict what you are going to do. Maybe I think he is that.
Starting point is 00:48:37 If he take me down, I can take his dow and give you a proper ground game. You know, nobody, nobody give to him like, I don't know how to say when people, punishment in their grounds. You know, I can give to him a very big punishment in their grounds. Yes, yes. I mean, you know, I heard, I was speaking to my good friend and, of course, the greatest Brazilian an M&A journalist, Gailme Cruz, he told me that you might be preparing for this fight in Moscow. Is that correct? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I will train for the next 10 days in Dublin, you know, to restart, train, like, strong, to feel how my shoulder is going, you know, and be ready for, start my company training in Russia, maybe. Wow. I will start, yeah, maybe I finish in New York as well. I just cut my weight in techniques, but yeah, I look for training hard in Moscow, Russia. We have seen you represent many countries. You've represented Thailand. You've represented the UK.
Starting point is 00:49:48 You've represented Brazil on your shorts and on your T-shirts. Will you maybe represent Moscow this time? I mean, Russia, if you do train in Moscow for this fight? Yeah, if I make my country in there, of course I put the Russia flag in my clothes. Wow, wow. And you have such a crazy story. of how you came to the UK. I know Gailme put out the article
Starting point is 00:50:10 a long time ago about you traveling to Scotland and stuff like this. I mean, a lot of the European fans feel a very close bond to you. Do you realize that a lot of people nearly see you as a European? They cheer you on like one of their own. Yeah, I'm here. I like to
Starting point is 00:50:26 because, you know, I think I can use the fight, MMA, to make everybody come close, you know, to, to make like a big chin to different nationalities, everybody together to share for the same sports. There's a big family, like...
Starting point is 00:50:48 I know it would be very exciting for Irish fans if we saw you wearing the Irish flag one day. Do you think you'll ever do a camp in SBG? Of course, I can make one camp there as well and use the Irish flag. I would be very proud. We would love that. We would love that, Johnny.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Everybody would be very excited. You know on the podcast you are on right now, we've been calling you Irish for many, many years. So that would be very cool. If you don't make my company Russia, I will make my country in here. I just don't decide already. So tell me, you know, how do you see the fight with Corey going? As you said, it's been very quick so far. You get rid of people so quickly.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Do you think this will be your longest fight in the UFC so far? I hope to show a little bit more of junior hockey. But you never know, man. Fights can happen everything. You know, you can't expect like the right thing or guess something because MAA is crazy, it's unbelievable. Everything can happen. Do you think he's your toughest opponent so far?
Starting point is 00:51:59 I think so because the rank, you know. If you was there because you are good. And do you feel like if you beat him, will you have something special to say to John Jones in front of all the people in New York? Yeah, of course. I will call John Jones after that. Yes. And when do you think it will happen?
Starting point is 00:52:19 If everything goes according to plan, you get your hand raised, you beat Corey. How long before you fight Jones? When would be the perfect time for you? Man, just booked for the next week. I'll be there. I don't need too much time to train. I'm ready. I train for this for five years, five years training.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Why I need more time to train more? I'm ready. Absolutely, man. Absolutely. Now, you better stop drinking too much of Kines. I don't know. I don't want to be rude, like, but I'm very confident, you know. I just, I just don't want to be rude, but this is me.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I like to be like this, and I don't want to be rude, but I believe a lot myself. You know, you have made such a big impact on the UFC so far. I don't believe John Jones when he says, you know, he doesn't know much about you. You need to be better guys. Do you think he secretly is looking at you and he knows that you are a serious challenge? Yeah, he knows. He knows already. We are not enemy, you know.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I will be very proud when I fight against him, you know. The belt is when I won him is just bonus. But the great thing is like the fight against him. I want the fight against him. The belt's just a bonus, you know. Amazing. Amazing. Johnny, thank you so much for your time today.
Starting point is 00:53:42 It has been an absolute pleasure to speak to you. Thank you. I really, I really can't wait to see this fight against Corey Anderson, and I believe, and everybody in the MMA world believes it too. If you beat Corey, there is nowhere else. It must be John Jones. I'll be there, my friend. Just give me time.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I'll be there. Thank you so much, Johnny. Enjoy the rest of your time in our time. Ireland. All right. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Bye, bye.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Take care. Bye. And fantastic to hear from Ireland's own, Johnny Walker. Stanley Man's own. Exactly. Well, but, yeah, it seems like the Guinness anyway. And he was with Johnny Jitsu. He was an outsider, so I mean, I think he's one of ours, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I'm sure he's going to have a weird perception of Irish people after that was. I looked like they're having good crack. In fairness. Yeah, so let's take a look at this weekend's card, Euroc. The first ever. Valentina Shep. I have a feeling, you know, her rematch with Liz Karmouche might go a bit different than their first meeting about 10 years ago, you know? Yeah, back in 2010 as we chatted about her there a couple of moments ago.
Starting point is 00:54:48 But yeah, listen, it's going to be a total different ballgame. I think she's like one of the best players in the world the moment, Valenciavchenko. She is. She's unbelievable. And I don't really see anywhere in which, you know, maybe if she gets Liz or maybe if Liz gets her on the deck, that's about it. But I don't think she's going to even sniff again on the deck here. I think this is going to be your first second round,
Starting point is 00:55:07 TKO, stoppage victory. I'm looking for Valentina Shivchenko to go straight through. And, you know, an aging,
Starting point is 00:55:13 Liz, Karmouche, the fighter, I don't think, is the same fighter that we've seen a number of years ago, obviously that,
Starting point is 00:55:20 you know, nearly pulling off the shock against Ronda Roosie. Very different fighter, and I just think the form she's on the momentum. She has fighting close as well to home where she's,
Starting point is 00:55:30 she's obviously from Krigstan, but she trains a lot in Peru. So that's, you know, it's a, stone throw away from her as well. I actually don't understand geography even slightly. It's not far.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I'll take your word for you. In South America. So I'm, you know, I just don't really see any sort of area here. Where Liz Carmouch is going to be able to get her to the deck and look for submission. So, yeah, it's Sheva all night, man. Volcan Ouzdimir will finally take on Ilare-Tipi, of course. That was when to take on. I think Pete's just went, yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Like, fucking let's move on. UFC Stockholm. Volcan needs a win so badly here. My God. I mean, I know Illar is coming off a loss to Cory Anderson, but not in the same situation as Walcan. Do you get an extra life at Light Heavyweight though?
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah, I think so. I think you do. I think you do. It's like, you know... As soon as you move beyond middleweight, listen, mate, you have to lose five in a row. Yeah, I think it is. But listen, you know, a marketable guy here...
Starting point is 00:56:25 Or you have to be BJ Penn. And, you know, he did have won, you know, sort of dodgy decision, the one in London against... Reyes. Reyes. A lot of people thought that fight went his way. I wasn't anything hung up about that decision to be honest
Starting point is 00:56:38 I probably did score it to Reyes. Latifie, a guy we obviously know, still my hurl once here in Dublin, if you remember way back in the day. Coming off that loss to Corey Anderson, you know, two really good wins before it against Tyson Pedro and OSP. A guy
Starting point is 00:56:54 though, you always sort of go you know, he fails when he gets to that sort of top four or five stage. So is Vulcan top four or five is what we're going to find out here? That's where I think. Yeah, it's not a bad show. We have to sort of look at both of these guys now.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And I think, you know, Vulcan really does need to win this. Or it's, you know, you just, you wonder ever since that Jones loss, has there been a little bit of fire pulled out of his guts and his belly? The Carmier loss. It's like a hangover. The Carmier loss. Yeah, the Cormier loss. Sorry, I beg a pardon. It's like a massive sort of hangover.
Starting point is 00:57:27 You know, you'd often see a soccer team after a World Cup international side, you know, for a year or two. And I think that could very well be the case with Volcan Osdemar. Maybe it was a little bit too soon for him to get that shot against Corman. He's found it hard to really sort of bounce back up and find what sort of career trajectory he's on. To be fair to him, he's always taking the hardest fight. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:57:48 That's one thing I've always said. Like, Jesus, like, he's basically like, who is the most difficult fight you can possibly give me in my current situation? That's what it feels like he's looking at break in time. You know, he's taking on a contender there in Reyes. He has no time. He's got no time, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:02 It's unfortunate. It is unfortunate. MacDonald's Oscar by Chota, a guy who I'm really impressed by so far, has drawn the short straw. He is taking on one of the greatest jih Tijuana of all time, Mr. Rolfo Vieira, who will be making his UFC debut. This guy is unbelievable. Like, I mean, Dylan Dannis wants to think that he's the greatest jih Tijuana in M.A. He obviously hasn't seen Rodolfo Vieer yet because...
Starting point is 00:58:26 You're a jitz expert. How good is the guy, yeah? Well, I'll tell you, it's not me. all I'm shite at Chichitsu, but it's like all the people in the Jiu-Jitsu community that I talked to all the time.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Tom King was telling me like he, Rolfo was blowing my mind with what he's doing there. We know Tom is hugely critical when it comes to like Jiu-Jitsu as a second-degree black belt so I mean
Starting point is 00:58:42 yeah, I think it's a really, really tough fight for both guys but I do feel as though Rodolfo, with his expertise on the ground, if it goes down there, Poichota,
Starting point is 00:58:54 who's looked very capable on the ground, will just won't be able to swim at this guy. He just won't be able to, And from what I've seen of Rodolfo's fighting so far, he is very good on the feet, definitely a lot better than I expecting it to be. But, of course, on the ground,
Starting point is 00:59:07 he's just a completely different kettle of fish. Nothing that most people would even have in their gym to replicate. You know, they wouldn't have another guy that could possibly do what he could do. So I think it's going to be a long night for Pitchell. Are we looking at a guy here? It's probably obviously too early to say, but are we looking at a guy here who's the potential from what you've seen so far to go right to the very top?
Starting point is 00:59:27 Like, I mean, I mean, I think the classic jujitsu to MMA legend, really, is Moia. So, I mean, if you can get anywhere near what Maya's done in MMA, I think you're doing pretty well for yourself. And I do think he's capable of something similar. Also on the card, something I'm really excited about. He's one of my 2019 prospects to watch Cyril Gan. He is making his debut against Raphael Pesoa. Cyril Gan is only 3 in 0. He was a champion with TKO in Canada before he was signed.
Starting point is 00:59:56 and he is from what's it called the fight factory in Paris is that what it's called? Yeah The something factory MMA factory What's called?
Starting point is 01:00:04 I think it's the MMA or fight factory Yeah yeah where you're just going on with one of that monosur With an offend Fernand Lopez A man who
Starting point is 01:00:10 brought another guy to the UFC Another heavyweight Someone you might have heard of Mr. Francis and Gannu Imagine I would pay
Starting point is 01:00:17 wild money to just watch them to sparring Cyril Gahn was like a mooy toy champion before he came to MMA so he is just obliterating people I think he's 3 in O now
Starting point is 01:00:26 as far as I know, but I expect this guy to make huge waves of heavyweight because, as we know, when you win a heavyweight, you take massive jumps, you know? Speaking of Francis Ngano, he posted a picture today on Instagram. I know if you saw it with his grandfather. His grandfather was a second-degree Dan black belt in karate. Jesus. And a brown belt in judo. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Wow. That's really impressive. Yeah, very cool photo. Two very different national arts as well. Yeah, two very different styles between himself and his grandfather. But it was a scary side all the same. If you want a nightmare tonight, go ahead and have a look at a big Franny, our Dublin's own. Yes, yes indeed.
Starting point is 01:01:02 There we go. Looking forward to that. Gilbert Barnes, you reminded me, is actually going to be going up to 170 for the first time. Giorino. He's going to be trying to put the first blemage on M1 Global Champion, Alexei Kienko's 20-0 record. So certainly not an easy out for your first time at Welterway you'd have to say. But do you think moving up is going to serve him very well? Yeah, man, he had tough, tough problems, making 155 pounds.
Starting point is 01:01:28 You know, he pulled out of a lot of fights as well. I think, you know, Paul Felder was supposed to fight him at one point, I remember, if I'm not mistaken. That's correct, yeah. He pulled out of that. I think Norman Park as well at one point in his UFC tenure was supposed to fight him. A lot of cancel bouts, and, you know, maybe that was something down to the way he cut. It was always sort of pretty close, you know, two weeks out, three weeks out from a fight that he pulled out. Because, you know, I remember Paul couldn't get that fight re-bucked out.
Starting point is 01:01:54 So yeah, listen, I'm glad to see that a number of guys are actually making this move. We look at the results we've seen from Michael Kiesis and see him move to 170 pounds. There's a lot of comparisons, there's a lot of good comparisons these days. And I think, you know, as much as we do slate the weight cutting and the whole process of it, but we actually have seen a huge amount of fighters. Obviously, the roster is huge in the UFC, but we've seen a lot of guys actually move weight classes, which I think is an encouraging thing for the future to try and get away from this wrestling culture of way cutting.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Yes. that's all the Europeans that are in action on the night is there anything else jumping out with you I have to say I like that Lukey V Perry for it. Yeah I always like Fichente Luque watching him throw down he's a tough dude and he's a killer
Starting point is 01:02:34 he's some power in those hands and obviously very good in the deck as well so looking yeah looking forward to that nothing really sort of sticking out I'm kind of looking forward to this seeing this Uruguayan guy just to see what kind of reaction he gets from the fans if it's going to be big
Starting point is 01:02:47 I'm looking forward to seeing Have they been starved of this moment you know like to see you know what's the, you know, atmospheres like in the arena, really from the get-go. It's usually really exciting when they go to a place. And Uruguay, it's a small little country as well. They're the type of country to get behind their guys.
Starting point is 01:03:02 So, yeah, I think we could be in for a very, very loud and hostile atmosphere in Montevideo, I believe, the capital of Uruguay is on Saturday night, Peter. Yeah, well, I think that's all of the talking points we have. I don't know how big Uruguay is, because, again, my geography... I haven't googled that and right. I think it is, right? we'll giggle her for the crack. I think it is. Gilemy Cruz,
Starting point is 01:03:25 isn't it is pulling his hair out. I think it's three, three million, I think. Wow. I think it is. Here we go. I'm just getting it up there.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Come on, Noel. Come on. Come on. Let's see if it is. 3.457 million. See, private school people aren't stupid as fuck.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Well done, thanks, buddy. Yeah, listen, the only bad thing they ever that they produced from their sewers was Louis Suarez. They also produced
Starting point is 01:03:48 Diego Forlan though. Yeah. He came from your boy. He made this. Gouse's cry, Diego, oh, oh, oh. There you go, any opportunity gets he will take shots at Liverpool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:59 And I'll look like, no, I won't say on the, all right. But no, I'm looking forward to seeing the crowd probably more than anything. Yeah. Well, Shevchenko, I love watching Sheffiago, butcher people. Listen, it's not a great card. It's very much sort of open-coming card. Listen, Tisha Torres always brings, she's in the card
Starting point is 01:04:16 against Mariana Rodriguez. It should be a decent fight as well. So, yeah, listen, moving on, it's one of those ones. I just think it's going to be. uses a filler to try and poke their heads in a new market. Yeah, absolutely. I can't believe I've somehow managed to get through this podcast. My voice is absolutely fucked.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Can you just mention Eddie Alvarez from one championship last weekend? Yeah, Europe's own, Eddie Alvarez. Yeah, Europe zone. No, I just want to get your thoughts on it. I don't know if you saw the finish, but man, the guy takes some damage and to come back again. It's just phenomenal. Glad to see the damage is to the leg rather than the head this time, though.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah, no, that was good. but man the guy shows serious bloody resolve Demetius Johnson struggled to be honest with you No but this is a reoccurring team Why why like I feel like one I nearly setting up these UFCs for a downfall So they look like they're the best
Starting point is 01:05:04 Yeah they're certainly not We always had this talent pool And it's like what's going on here And once again You look kind of smaller than them And you're going like what do they know How to game the system and these guys don't You know what I think it is
Starting point is 01:05:14 I think it's a motivational factor From these fighters I think they're fine on it And you know Eddie even alluded to the set found, you know, and Eddie's a guy he's fought in Japan before when he lost, to, what's the guy's now, I can't pronounce his bloody name, in his debut, when he lost the fight, Eddie came out and said, you know, it was just a little bit strange, the whole, you know, build up to the week and what went on, and, you know, the crowd being quiet,
Starting point is 01:05:35 and obviously it is quiet in Japan where he met his debut, but that was obviously in the Philippines at the weekend, and he just wondered sometimes with, you know, the show, you know, everything that's going on, you know, what is the angle? Did they really give a shit about the belt out of there for the money? do you know what killed my boss putting on the strike and fight after like two of the greatest square to ever live in city get the moit toy away from it keep it for a different day
Starting point is 01:05:55 just put on the undercard when nobody's watching anyway totally agree you know totally agree like that's what we were watching it in a barro over there and like my friends were stuck into it when alvarez was on stuck into it when demetri is on and then they put on and you know credit to uh I think it was hegerty or something the guy's name was from the UK yeah fair play to me he's brilliant but
Starting point is 01:06:13 it's just changing it too much for the western audience it's very difficult to do totally it's It ruins the dynamic to flow of the show, even watching, I agree, which I went for a shower I think when Heggerty was on.
Starting point is 01:06:22 I'm not even lying. I had my laptop out the front streaming it off my phone. Yeah, it really sort of fucked up the momentum of it. But listen, Alan Philp bought an action on Tuesday
Starting point is 01:06:32 actually on that Worry series. The Warrior series, yeah, so that's one to look out for. Should check out his interview with Andy Stevenson over there in Severo, M.A.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Didn't pull any punches as usual, Alan. Never afraid to do so. Yeah, listen, Alan's a lot who likes to see. a swing from the waist. That's, that's it.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Listen, and you've got to respect that, and I think we do it as well, so we can't really say much a lot of the time. So, listen, it's the way to be, and I think, you know, Alan's the kind of kids that's been around so long that, you know, you're always expecting some from Alan. Hopefully, you know, after that last, the last time out that he can be convinced back. That wasn't the last time. He's won since then.
Starting point is 01:07:06 He's one since then. He's one on one so far in Warrior Series. So hopefully you can get a, you know, get, get a win and get a bit of momentum behind him because he's a talented, talented kids, you know, very, very good for her. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So as I was saying, very difficult to get through this. I'm sure all my...
Starting point is 01:07:22 You sound wonderful that piece. Oh, it sounds like shite. But I'm sure all the lads will love to hear me talking so desperately after that weekend. So big thanks to Tomo, Al, the stag himself, Hingo, Paul, Top Gun, Stee, Sands, Colley, Jack and Mark for a Marvel's weekend. Full of intoxication and hilarity. And you missed me as well. You weren't there. In spirit.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I was in spirit. All right. Yeah, I mean. I showed him the voicemails where you called him scumbags. And I think it's changed, they've changed their tune considerably. They only know I'm only joking. No, one of them was sharp on knives and shit and saying, let's try and kill this prick. I was like, no, he's all right.
Starting point is 01:07:59 He's all right. He's all right. I'm going to fucking shank him. I was like, all right, look, well, keep me out of it. I don't want anything to do with this. All right. Lovely bunch. Another thing I wanted to thank everybody for was the reviews on iTunes.
Starting point is 01:08:14 I didn't even know they were there. I haven't seen them at all. Yeah. But I didn't know they were there. What I was doing was, I was trying to get MMI fighting up on iTunes, so I got download a podcast for when I was going. And when I saw it there was the top three, the newest three reviews were for Eurobashen.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Love that shit, boys. We didn't even ask you to do that and you're doing it. So thank you so much. I think when we asked us to do it last time, it was blocked. No, it was blocked. And it's been difficult. We've a lot of recent departures, but we've been fighting away,
Starting point is 01:08:42 and we've been still giving you all the best content we have. You know, MMA Vience has produced a conveyor belt of talent over the last decade and we're going to be doing it. We're going to fulfill the kind of the roles that all these people had before and it's not like we don't get on with them. Some of my best friends have left the site
Starting point is 01:08:58 and of course I want them to do brilliant as well with their careers. They're excellent people. But it's up to you to be on the right side of history. You know, don't come out here. Oh, what's this? Where's Ariel? Where's Mark and where's shot?
Starting point is 01:09:09 These guys aren't the same. Be on the right side of history. That's it. We're the greatest. All right? It's going to happen for us. So stop bullshit. Even the,
Starting point is 01:09:17 even the Asoid, like Jose's savage at that man. He's savage at that. He just have people moaning, pissing and moaning. These are just such complaining. Fuck sometimes. It's the MMA fans.
Starting point is 01:09:27 It is. It's just part of it. But we love you. We know the Eurobash. People are down. We know he's are the most diehard. We know there's no casuals on here. So we really appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:09:36 It really did. It made my day when I saw all that shit. So, I got a message as well for, on behalf of the podcast as well. Own Henerman, I was, sent me a message Saturday and I'm just really nice I think he's in Canada
Starting point is 01:09:49 so appreciate that brother yeah thanks so much man really really means a lot lads it does it really does and you know you just keep on being the best fans out there use the Eurobashes
Starting point is 01:09:57 keep on leading by example and eventually the rest and we'll get the message but you'll say listen man I've been saying about fucking years I think PIS he's still fucking drunk from his tag lads
Starting point is 01:10:07 I'm not I wish I was to be honest could actually speak properly that's what you should need tonight to get some sleep you should go for a couple curers I have to go to a wedding on Saturday and then another wedding next Saturday.
Starting point is 01:10:19 I am not drinking. I am no way. No, but I'll tell you why you should have three points of Guinness because you sleep well tonight. And this is why an alcoholic. But anything you have left to say, Harry McGuire or whatever his name is. Harry McGuire, yeah, do you know the song? No, you were telling me it's good. He drinks the vodka.
Starting point is 01:10:33 He drinks the Yeager. His head's fucking massive. McGuire, yeah, listen, good signing, good player, massive heads, massive transfer fee. not liking the transfer fee, but listen, football is a lot of bollocks these days. They're all mercenaries. So it was,
Starting point is 01:10:49 80 million, right? Yeah. So, it probably, you probably would have been happy if it was like 65, right?
Starting point is 01:10:54 No. I'd slice that in half. 40? Yeah, it's because he's English and it's because, you know, Manchester United
Starting point is 01:11:01 in the Europa League, you know, clubs are putting up exuberance prices. But then we paid 50 million for a lad that I've never even heard before him.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Wambasaka, yeah. Who the fuck is here. Well, that's what I'm saying to you. Yeah, the guy's probably worth half that. There you go.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Harry McGuire's worth half. But the market's gone insane. But I do think United would be a lot better than people are, you know, perceiving them to be ahead of this season, which obviously kicks off next weekend. So listen, I think, you know, get one or two more players in this week. You know, Harry McGorries, now he is a very good player. Don't get me wrong. I think they could be an outside show for the title. And I think Ollie's first full preseason as well, a bit more fitness.
Starting point is 01:11:39 But, like, I mean, if we're actually going to sign a really good player, it's going to cost us probably a billion now because we pay it if you're telling me he's not good and we're paying 80 million for him.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I'm not saying he's not good he's very good player but 80 million is extraordinary I mean he's money pay for a player like Harry McGuire's quality I was actually going to start watching football again
Starting point is 01:11:55 because I thought we were going to get a good player but it turns out that's a lot of bollocks as well we see that's not dead in the water yet according to the Italian media listen don't I won't have the Italian people
Starting point is 01:12:04 disrespective are I'm big friends with the Italian people I'm saying the Italian I'm saying the Italian I have a lot of Italian friends Apologies is the Sansovin
Starting point is 01:12:11 any family. Fabio being that. My boy from Brescia. There you go. There you go. But listen, I'm basically running on films now. I'm going to have to end this bad boy.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Thanks to Jack Armanson. Thanks to Johnny Walker. Thanks to all you beautiful people. Thank you to Noel McGrath. And thank you to the people of Prague for not arresting me. Love you all very much. Hopefully I'll be able to talk next week.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Any parting remarks from you, Noel? Yeah. All right. Here's a big kiss. Give him one, Noel. We're gone. Thank you.

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