MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 53 ( w/ Joanna Jedrzejczyk, Paul Felder)

Episode Date: September 17, 2019

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Joanna Jedrzejczyk (13:30) discusses the title ramifications of her upcoming main event bout with Michelle Waterson and Paul Felder (54:00) weighs in on Edson Barboz...a's decision to appeal his loss to from their clash in Abu Dhabi at UFC 242. Hosts Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath look at the latest European MMA headlines. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:55 How are you, sir? I've had better days, Pizzi, I'm not going to lie to you. I had a few beers after the celebrations of Dublin's All-Ireland. You celebrating Dublin's all-Ireland, that's hilarious. Just an excuse, you know. You don't even know the rules, do you?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah, barely. Were you happy with the win all the same? Ah, yeah, sure, listen. An excuse to go on the sauce. That's it, and a few of the lads are good, are very big Dublin fans. It's been raised on the Northwood, right? No.
Starting point is 00:02:18 That's very strange. I look into that. If South Dublin, intelligence are onto this. Follow those guys around. Something wrong there. Something wrong there. Shut up. Yeah, it was great.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I assumed they would win once they had 15 men on the pitch. So, yeah, very happy with that. Champions again, five in a row. Straight under the half dozen plays. But, yeah, I mean, interesting weekend of fights. KSW, probably wasn't the most spectacular KSW show we've seen.
Starting point is 00:02:45 A few close decisions there on that card. And, of course, you had that fantastic main event between Donald Soroni and Justin Gagie in Vancouver. And it seems to McGregor, weepstakes are certainly a play in that one. All the talk coming out of Vancouver about Gaichi and McGregor. But before we get going there, let's have a look
Starting point is 00:03:02 at these latest news headlines. Better let me be, do, bu, it's a news. All right, so Jackaray v. Blackovich, November 16, South Paulo, Brazil. I thought he was in with the John Jones shout, to be honest. I thought he was, the longer it went on, I thought he could get it, and all the talk in Abu Dhabi was about Jan and John Jones.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah, well, wasn't it, something fell through. They were trying to make the UFC. I think Ariel referenced that, that they were pretty close getting over the line and whatever. It fell through. They couldn't get negotiations over the line. So a strange one, yeah. Maybe a win over Jackaray will put them in pole position. We'll have to see how the division plays out before November, I guess.
Starting point is 00:03:39 But your favorite buddy is back. Andre Arlowski is going to take on Gersino Rosenstuck at MSG. I won't be watching. Look at the excitement there. McGraw loves a bit of Arlofsky action. Oh, come on. That's all I'm going to say. Come on.
Starting point is 00:03:53 because like five years lads come on let's let's be realistic here gunner nelson v gilbert burns is now going to happen at copenhagen because tiego alves is out gilbert burns in at 170 just just tia alves have the record for most of the pull-outs in the UFC history it's crazy i actually don't know it's mental the man he's pulled out of fights lucky enough they got someone there i think that's just on the verge of being made and i was speaking to some people from gunner's team today and they said they accepted he had accepted but i think it's all but a formality just
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yeah, he's a game he laden, Fernas Tim Doreenio. Yes, he is indeed. Danny Roberts will be back for the first time since that brutal knockout at the hands of Pereira when he takes on Zillim I Medeoff
Starting point is 00:04:32 in Moscow, I think in November. Reese McKee is going to headline Cage Warriors Cork in Ireland. I mean, Ireland, but he's going to headline the Irish card. I mean, that makes perfect sense to me.
Starting point is 00:04:46 He seems to be right on the brink of titles with Cage Warriors. He seems to be the most prominent fighter in terms of next in line to the UFC to Reese McKee. It makes perfect sense. Me and you are kind of saying this anyway, aren't me? Yeah, for a long, long time. I think we've been talking about Reese.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Just in terms of that main event in Ireland, it makes perfect sense. Yeah, it does. We've been saying it for a while, and I think you know, Reese is the kind of guy that... Reese's pieces. You know, he's eyes on him now. I think the world's watching him. The UFC have eyes on him, and he's certainly not far away from a call-up from the big show, and I think a couple of wins will do that for him. And I think it will really put him over well to have that big win in Ireland.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I mean, he has a great support. He deserves it as well, man. He's worked his arse off in his career and, you know, moving up to 170 as well. Yeah, and did you see the size of it, dude? He looks hench, man. I saw him over in Vegas there, getting that buffet away on him, but he looks, he's filled out. Yeah, he was texting today. He's on the Bunsen bandwagon as well now.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Oh, fantastic. Get the sponsors in Bunsen. He had one in Ranla there a few weeks ago, and he was up with his missus on there, and he was texting me, and he was texting today, and I sent him a picture. Actually, he got a Bunsen today, so. See that? He's already selling burgers. May as well sponsor him Bunsen.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Kiefer Crosby has got a new opponent for Bellator Dublin He's going to now face Hugo Pereira Fitzgerald Fitzpatrick was his initial opponent He's out now Brian Moore is also out As far as I know
Starting point is 00:06:04 No new opponent is being sought for Toby Missich That's a big loss What happened to Brian? Reds are and Brian Like in the space of a week That's two of the best fighters in Ireland Let's be honest like that's tough It is tough yeah
Starting point is 00:06:16 And the card's definitely Taking a bit of a blow main event doesn't really do it for me either to be honest you which one there's several main and henderson yeah i mean i'm much more looking forward to galer and eleanor you know that i'm way more especially after last week as well if you didn't hear the interview you did but him was a very good interview and he seems very pumped up to come over this side of the pond and stir the stir the pot yeah and as well as that interview if you liked what you heard there you should go and check out the full reptile documentary they did on them calpuccino it's very very good i i just watched that
Starting point is 00:06:47 before he interviewed him. The Raptors boys did that one's two legends. But yeah, a bit of KSW news as well. KSW will be touching down in Croatia for the first time in November in Zagreb, and you've got to think that if he's fit, Roberto Solich coming off that win last weekend will have a prominent place on that card.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Also, KSW 52, Scott Ascombe got the fight that he wants against Mamad Kaladoff. That is a monstrous fight for December. Really can't wait for that one. I think that's a brilliant, brilliant fight for Ascom. in this time of his career Caladoff coming off two losses a legendary name in Poland
Starting point is 00:07:23 if there was ever going to be a fight to ask him across in Eastern Europe it's got to be the Caled off fight he's a legend he's one of the most legendary fighters along with like Fadar who never fought here did you not talk about retiring he retires when he wants man it's Mad Madadac the Cannibal does as he pleases but
Starting point is 00:07:39 come on MMA retirement's like it's just they're not real it's just like listen mate I need a few months off it's all bollocks it is indeed not the sport but the retirement not a sports pollux I was honest how the show
Starting point is 00:07:52 you two lads poking a head off each other that's great but right so that's the end of our headlines but what I did want to talk to you about because it happened over the night was McGregor's December 14th shout Dublin December 14th is what he tweeted
Starting point is 00:08:08 very confused about this he was obviously gone to Mrs Brown's boys oh man yeah well that's on the three arena it, there's no way in hell they're going to put on outdoor event in Crow Park or the Lanzown Road, like, I mean, it's just not going to happen. So I don't really understand what that was about. I just, I mean, what was that?
Starting point is 00:08:27 Like, that's, that's, like, I mean, some of them have been like off base where he's been tweeted, but that one seems incredibly off, off base. Maybe if you just said December 14th, we'd be like, oh, I wonder if he's going to get put on a UFC 245, but. Yeah, I don't know what the whole Dublin thing was. That's not going to happen. It's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I'll eat my hat if that happens You're running around the streets naked Yeah Well I said I'll eat my hat Because if it happens I'm very conscious of my body But does he fucking UFC
Starting point is 00:08:53 booked Yeah it's not gonna happen Like I mean I went I rang so many people today Just to be like I'm not going mad here This can't
Starting point is 00:09:02 This can't happen Can't it? And they're like no No I don't know Unless they do The fight night He's headlining
Starting point is 00:09:10 And I don't know They've often Obviously They've done But why in the name of God Would they do that with Conner McGregor, the most marketable draw they have, put on a fight night card,
Starting point is 00:09:19 and not make any money off it, and it could potentially be his last fight for all we know. So, I mean, I just don't see the sense. I wonder if I see something else happening on 14th December week. We don't know about it. It just might be going over a few points. Yeah, a few points. I don't know what the crack is.
Starting point is 00:09:32 But, you know, I think it's obviously a ploy as well, maybe to keep people talking about them. Maybe get the urge back on the side. Yeah, I think that's going to be, there's a lot of work to be done there. so man I really don't know very odd and yeah I can't really see them doing a card here
Starting point is 00:09:48 the same night as a pay-per-view in the US it wouldn't make an awful lot of sense not having Connor McGregor on a pay-per-view as he said so I went on Ariel's the M.MA reporter show last week and he asked me about McGregor and a lot of people said it was very negative what I said but I mean
Starting point is 00:10:04 he asked me how do people in Ireland feel about McGregor now and I mean it's unanimous in that in that sense like I mean and I do like I stand by everything I said I've listened to it back I don't feel like I said anything out of turn and you got you go to a pub and you know
Starting point is 00:10:19 people walk up to me just tell me how they feel about it and it's negative every time exactly I went to the pub on Saturday for an hour and I mean I'd say 12 people walked up to me just to tell me you know I don't like that guy yeah well that's that's what happens you know when when people start talking me
Starting point is 00:10:36 it makes martial arts that's one of the first things they always say to you I can't stand that guy I don't like this guy and that's general consensus around Dublin and 99.9% of people will tell you that. It's pretty astounding though from where he's come from, right? To where he was, top of the world,
Starting point is 00:10:52 like no, no, he was in a stratosphere that no other MMA fighter really had been up until that point. No, our sports person has ever been. And now he's, it's bottomed out to a certain extent, right? Well, he's gone from the top of the mountain right down to the bloody base camp because he needs to fight, right?
Starting point is 00:11:10 I feel like he needs to get back in there. This tweeting stuff is just not doing it. It's all talking shite. And I think that's the only way he can endear himself to fans anymore. Our attempts to make it up to them is by getting in the cage, staying out of the papers, and obviously putting on a winning performance. And as we said a few weeks ago, Pete, he's next fight. He has to win it or he's, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Yeah, that's, Ariel kind of made it. He kind of said that to me when we were recording. He was like, you know, after I said he needs to get back there and fight, he's like, I don't think it's as easy as fighting. He's got to win. That is it. He has to win. If he doesn't win,
Starting point is 00:11:46 you're talking about a monumental fall from grace, not just a fall from grace outside of the octagon. We've seen it's a fall from grace actually in the cage as well because, you know, I think we look back to that Habib fighting. You know, there was a lot of, a lot of very strange things Connor McGregor did in that fight. And I think if he is to go out and fight Justin Gagee and lose, you know, I think, you know, where does he go from there?
Starting point is 00:12:08 Does he call it a day? does he pack it in? I don't know, man. Is that the fight to make? Him or Paul Feller, I do agree. I do think, I think, you know, you can talk about Dustin Porey as well, potentially makes a lot of sense to do a rematch there. I actually like the Porey fight,
Starting point is 00:12:22 but I do think Feller makes sense. If they're not going to throw them right into a championship stake situation. Well, well, they're not going to, unless there's an injury to Tony Fervis. But Gage is right, right? It's either him, if Tony's not next, even if Tony happens next, you think Gachie is after that, right? Yeah. That's why I think.
Starting point is 00:12:39 think it makes sense for McGregor to go after the Gaichi fight because he beats Gaichi, he's right back on, you know, Habib or Tony's doorstep again. And I think the same goes for Justin Gaich. It's going to be a big payday for Justin Gauch if he gets that fight anyway. So he's going to take it. Paul Felder would take it, I know, you know, he called out Gachia or Felder, whoever wants to go at him next. So I think they're both very difficult fights for Conner. I think that's how we're going to gauge where McGregor is in his career is by fighting potentially one of them. and you know it isn't the big name of Habib or Porei, but it's very much a proving ground for Justin Gates,
Starting point is 00:13:12 your Paul Feller as well, so it does make sense. Yeah, yeah, no, I agree with you completely. We'll begin on with our first interview of the day, my friend. Okay, well, for the second time ever, we are joined by European MMA royalty. It is Joanna Jacek, who takes on Michelle Warrison on October 12th. We had a great chat with Joanna. She's always been so generous at her time.
Starting point is 00:13:31 She sounds pumped up, man. I actually got so excited just talking to her about this upcoming fight. She always excited, doesn't she? She radiates the confidence and arrogance. It's brilliant. Yeah, it's brilliant. And I just feel as though, you know, there's a lot more riding on this than even she. That's huge.
Starting point is 00:13:48 It's just, it's huge. And she's been told that she's getting a title shot if she wins it. So the Wiley Zang situation and with Zang saying, you know, she's not the furrow she was when she was champion. I didn't really like that all that much. So we go in there speak to you on it. This is quite a long one. So we're back in about 20 minutes, guys. All the best.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And now you have been asking for us to get her back on and we have finally done it. It is the great Joanna Janjiechek who takes on Michelle Waterson on October 12th. Joanna, how are you? And thank you so much for joining us again. Hello, hello, Ireland. Hello, guys. Thank you for the support. First of all, thank you for the support.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Because when I check my social media, the statistics, I have a very, very big fan base in Ireland in UK. So guys, thank you so much for this. Thank you for the support. I always say this. There is no sport without fans, and the Irish fans are very dedicated. So thank you. And it's an honor to talk to you. That is great.
Starting point is 00:14:46 That is great. And I can assure you that means a lot. And of course, as you just said, you do have a massive fan base, not only in Ireland and the UK, but all over Europe. You are one of our very few champions, as you know. But tell me how this camp is going ahead of the Warrison fight. Oh, very good. Very good, very good.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I feel great. I'm very happy for my upcoming fight with Michelle Watterson. It was the fight to make, and I think the fans love it, and there is lots of expectations from me, and Michel Watterson. We are headlining the show, and it's an honor for me to do this again. And it means a lot to me. The trust, the UFC, Dana, they have in me. It means a lot to me, and I just,
Starting point is 00:15:34 love it. I've been training pretty hard as always. And before every camp, I'm like quality over quantity, but I do both. I'm training really hard. I do 13 training sessions a week. Of course, we are like
Starting point is 00:15:49 four weeks before this fight, so probably next week I will cut a little bit the amount of training, but I feel great. And the break I took after the fight with Valentina Shavchenko, brought like super extra new energy fire desire
Starting point is 00:16:09 I want to just do more train more and I feel hungry to fight again yes yes and just as you said there and the quality over quantity is that something you've learned because like has that happened before where you've just trained your body into the ground because you're just putting yourself through so many sessions no no I like to do this you know I like to feel banked I like to feel tired and you know even if the session training session is good, I'm not happy, you know, because I know that every day, with every training session, I can do better. So I always set my goals and ambitions very high. So even after
Starting point is 00:16:49 good sparring, I'm not happy because I know I can do better. So, you know, but I like to manage, manage this little bit, you know. I manage every training, my coaches, my physiotherapist, they are in touch. I always bring my physiotherapist from Poland for last four or five weeks before the fight. So it's great, man. It's great. It's great. So we're trying to keep an eye on everything. And I'm very happy that every single person who is part of team, Tim Yohanna, is putting, we're putting these puzzles together, you know. So that's the most important thing. Yes, yes. Now, when I look at this fight, Yowanna, I think of you, and I know you have been, you've contested some of the biggest fights
Starting point is 00:17:36 in women's MMA history with the UFC, but I don't see Michelle having that same experience at the very top. I know she's had a main event against Paige Van Zandt in the past, but do you think that's, that kind of goes in your favor, the fact that you have been in these big spots before, and this could be the biggest fight of Waterson's career, you know? Yeah, I think it is, and I expect that she's going to show up in the best shape ever,
Starting point is 00:18:01 but from like we can see that Michelle Watterson is just getting better and better with every fight like technically with her like cardio she's improving so I have to be really focused trying hard for this fight because the winner is going to get the title shot so there's lots of online and lots of two-take and you know I will take over that night I will win and go for the belt after this fight but like you said she's a great athlete, great human and I cannot wait to step into
Starting point is 00:18:36 the octagon. That's the point and you know the good plus is that I've been competing a lot in five rounds boats and from like with every round I'm just getting better and better and my condition is always good
Starting point is 00:18:52 and I'm not getting tired after like five francs boat I'm like oh let's do five months more, you know, so I think that's on my side, you know. Yes. The pace I can keep and I'm a real fight-frander, you know. I went through so many title defenses, five-fronts fights, and I'm experienced. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And I mean, when I think about the match-up, because Waterson, of course, known for her striking ability as well, but, I mean, it just seems like it's going to be such a fan-favorite fight because a lot of the times when we see you fighting it's about people trying to take you down and take you down because they know how good of a striker you are. Is this one appealing to you where you can show us the full arsenal of your striking? You know, like always people are like, oh, what about your grappling or what about your jiu-jitsu? Man, like ATT is like simply like the best gym of the year for the second year in a row. And I'm training with top level female athletes. I spar with the guys.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I also train with the guys who were competing at ADCC competition and other great athlete. And I'm training with Jezare Matuda, who is first of all my big, big friend. She's like my sister here in Florida, multiple BJJ world champion. And, you know, there is, like nobody is better than her. And she pushes me hard, and she's such a dedicated athlete, but also a great teammate. When I need her, she's there and she helps me. And I roll with her. Of course, she's a beast.
Starting point is 00:20:28 She's a blackbird, multiple world champion, as I said. But, you know, I can see where I am at with my grappling and jiu-jitsu. So that's a good thing. But, of course, my good side is striking and take down defense. I feel great on the cage. I'm hanging out on the cage on the fence. And I just love it. know, and if they want to take me down, they can try, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:56 They can try. I let them. I let them, you know, but my head coach is Mikey Brown and Cattle Cove is, you know, legendary Mikey Brown. We do so many drills, MMA drills, take down defense and other stuff. So my grappling, my jih Tzu is on point as well. Yes, of course, of course. And I mean, you broke that news as well.
Starting point is 00:21:18 It first came to the fans' minds. when they saw it with Paul Sad, you did the article with them where they spoke about that you would be guaranteed a title shot if you win this fight. How much does that mean to you, Joanna, to be right on the verge of getting that gold back? Because I know that means a lot to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It means a lot to me because, you know, I know what I talk about it's far away behind me. But I know what happened before the fight with the Rose, the first fight. the second fight, it could go either way.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And I know people are like saying, oh, you three and one. Like, oh, now it's the fight like of your life. Bullshit, you know, there is so many fights in my life, important fights in my life, which are going to happen. But the thing is that I'm not looking for excuses, but I know who I am.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And like, you know, the straw weight belt, he's going like from hand to hand, you know, nobody can hold it for long. longer and I was holding this belt for almost three years. Five successful title defenses. Only Rhonda Rosie is better, six title defenses. I know people doubt her. People doubt me.
Starting point is 00:22:31 But show me someone who is better, of course, so much respect to Amanda Nunes, who is my teammate and she's simply the goat of female MMA, you know. But show me someone who could hold a belt longer than Rhonda or me, you know. And like I said, people can doubt me, can doubt the Ronda. But it's all about what's inside us, you know. Like you said, there's more than 500 fighters in the EFC, only like, what, 12, 13, 14 champions with the new divisions. Man, it means a lot to be the champion and defend the belt.
Starting point is 00:23:04 It's not easy to win the belt, but definitely is more difficult to defend the belt. But I won't my last fight. It was in the flyweight division. After the fight, it was like a super fight. after the fight with Valentina Shevchenko, I decided to take a longer break and reset my body physically, mentally and I can see how I'm training
Starting point is 00:23:23 right now, how my body is reacting and how much I have learned for the last few months and just great. I cannot wait to step in the octagon in four weeks and show it to people. And it's extra motivation for me that after
Starting point is 00:23:39 winning this fight with Michelle Watterson, I will go for the bed. I will go for you know it seems to me like and you said it there a lot of people kind of say oh you're one and three but did like it must be even annoying when you know that you went up a weight class because nobody else was available to fight valentina your last favorite rose was so close yeah yeah yeah and we know how the fight the fight was like on and off on and off you know and i had i had only like six weeks of training for for the fight with one of the best one of the strongest female athletes
Starting point is 00:24:12 with Valentina Shevchenko and it was like different weight class and people like don't know that it was a higher higher weight class you know like sometimes people are trying to look at only the numbers or if you win or you lost your fight but there is something like behind you know they didn't know much about the training
Starting point is 00:24:30 the preparation and what's going on but you know there are very dedicated friends and I'm very happy with that but I do not care man like even when I was winning when I was the champ before every fight I was like Joanna just go there and do your best doesn't matter if you win or you lose
Starting point is 00:24:49 just go there and show them who you are what you've been doing for the last few weeks last few months long months without seeing family friends being far away from home and just go there and do and show them who you are and this is what I've been doing for
Starting point is 00:25:06 last 16 years of my fighting career that's the point yes of course of course, of course, and I agree with you completely. I was just wondering, as you said there, the belt has changed hands many times since your title reign. And, I mean, were you surprised by what Wiley did to Jessica? Was that a surprise to you? Because up until then, I only really saw you really putting, being so dominant against Jessica, right?
Starting point is 00:25:29 Nobody had ever really done it before you. You know what? The day before the fight, this fight happens between Valentina, between Andrea Ash and Zhang. I said that this fight was going to end in the first round, and I put my money on Zhang. But the thing is like I know how strong is Amanda. Jessica Andrash, so sorry. And I was surprised how big is Wayliz Zhang, you know, because Jessica Andrash is kind of short, but she's very muscular and big girl for the Strawade Division, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:04 But Whelzeant is very strong. She has big guns. But, you know, like, when I saw Jessica training on her social media, I was really not impressed. And I was like, oh, shit, if she want to defend the belt, she must really, like, put on a, like, put on, like, put on, like, put more, you know. Yes, put it more into the training camp. But, but she, she, she, she didn't do that. So, yeah. Do you, look, I mean, Woi Lysayang has been calling your name for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:26:40 time. And I guess with you knowing that a title fight with her is beyond this fight with Waterson, how does that make you feel about Zhang as an opponent? As you said, she is very strong, but I mean, have you got a good read of how good she is? How good do you think she is? And how do you think you match up with her? I, you know, she's good, but, you know, the thing is the truth is, they offer me Wei Zhang like three times before that fight. And the thing is like, she needed me, okay, now she's the champ, so maybe it looks like she never, like, she needs me to become someone. But, you know, like, sometimes people are like,
Starting point is 00:27:19 oh, you know who she is now? Of course I know who she is, but I don't, I fight in the octagon, you know. I'm a professional athlete. I'm a businesswoman. I know who I am. I don't do fights on Twitter, you know. Yes. If they call me, I'm very happy because it means that I have a strong position.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Why are they calling me out? because they know I can bring them to different level or maybe they're going to be lucky and win with a former EFC champion, dominant champion who I was. And they can get, you know, better money, better exposure, just go there. And of course, they offer me well as young,
Starting point is 00:27:55 but my goal was to be fight for the belt, you know, and I took my spot now I'm fighting waters on and I will go for the belt, slowly step by step. I will reach my goals and my dreams, but the thing is like, you know, there is a new EFC Performance Institute in Shanghai in China. Probably they needed a good fight and they just gave the title shot to this Chinese chick. She won good for her, you know. I'm very happy for her, but I think she's very strong.
Starting point is 00:28:25 She has very, she's very dynamic, powerful. She's a good puncher and, you know, I hope she's going to be a good champ for the EFC, for this division. before I face her, you know. Yes, of course, of course. I don't know if you saw it or not, but Zhang recently was talking in Abu Dhabi, and she said that she didn't think you were as good as you were when you were champion.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I mean, do you feel... So you all should ask her why she was calling me out. These girls, you know, they think when they have this trap, they can talk shit, whatever they want to talk, you know, or when you're losing. Look how many of them were like calling me out after I lost the bell to Rose. They were like, oh, now we can beat you, Hannah because she lost. Now when I was such a dominant athlete, nobody like, they were trying, of course, to be lucky and get the belt,
Starting point is 00:29:19 but nobody could even like, you know, keep the pace with me when they face me. And that's the point. Yes. Now they can talk whatever they want to talk. I don't play these games, you know. I'm too classy and too serious for that bullshit. I understand. I understand. I'm sorry for asking. I felt I needed to ask because you did say.
Starting point is 00:29:38 That's fine, you know. That's fine, but, you know. I got to ask you as well, Joanna, about Jan Blackhovic. I thought he was going to get that John Jones fight, but it turns out he's going to fight Jack Array. Were you hoping that he would get that fight against John Jones? Yeah, yeah, I love, I love Jan. And I love Jan and, you know, we've been buddies for such a long time. I remember that in 2008, I took like second place on White I wore championship, and Yano took first place.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So we are like a brother and sister. We support each other. And, you know, I was hoping that he was going to get the tighter shot, but I knew that it was going to be difficult, you know. John Jones is a beast, and Jan needs to work more on his, like, this marketing how you say
Starting point is 00:30:37 marketing position like a value value that's important too but you know I hope that after he beats Jacare he will get the title shop
Starting point is 00:30:48 he will get the title shop yes absolutely I mean now you're only as you said you're four weeks out how good are you feeling like compared to other camps you've been in would you say the eight month break has made you feel
Starting point is 00:31:01 even better the fact that you haven't fought since the valentina fight well yeah man i feel great and that's what amaze me like mikey brown is like girl you're ready already you know so that's the point i always very dedicated and and and discipline and i feel ready and i cannot go to show like i you know in march april i went to holl and to train with ernester huss or like who I used to train back in a day 10 years ago. I started winning the biggest white tie trophies with them and I'm very thankful to them. But the other thing is that, you know, I'm back to doing like stuff. What I used to do, you know, I mix more combos.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I'm not trying to be focused only on boxing, only on kicks, only on distance. You know, all JJ is back and I hope I just don't want to talk. I just want to prove to people that. JJ is back with the same fire, you know, savage, violent, Joanna, you know, and that's the thing. And I spar more this camp, do more drills, like a life goes. And, like, not really, like, many things got changed, but, you know, I feel that, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:21 just the point of my view has changed, and I'm even more, more into than I used to be. And, you know, we four weeks out, but I feel ready, you know, I could step to the octagon, you know, even, even this weekend. Joanna, I'm even more excited about this. And believe me, I was very excited before I spoke to you, but on behalf of everyone in Europe, we cannot wait to see you back in there. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 00:32:46 You're one of the great fighters who ever hailed from this continent, and I really can't wait to see you. That's the point. Like, you know, people are like, oh, if you don't win this fight, you're going to be gone. Like, man, life is so beautiful. There is so many stories. I'm an athlete, of course. I'm a businesswoman right now, but there's so many great things
Starting point is 00:33:05 which are going to happen in my life, and I cannot wait, you know. Being an athlete's only part, you know, if you're a journalist, if you're a businessman, if you're working at, I don't know, Starbucks, McDonald's, in the future you are going to be someone else. I'm a human, I'm a woman, and I fucking love my life, and that's the point, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Now it's time to be an athlete. I'm doing this 100 person, but I'm person with so many hobbies, so many passions, and I cannot wait what life is going to bring me in the future, you know. And of course, like I said, I'm 100% focus on my upcoming fight with such an amazing athlete who is Michel Watterson, who is showing up better and better in each fight, and I cannot wait to face her.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yohanna, thank you so much. This has been absolutely amazing. It's a pleasure to speak to you. And then, like, I always say this, like, you know what, like the Irish guys, I could fell in love with an Irish guy, only because of the accent, you know. You're going to get so many Irish guys trying to get into your DMs now after saying this. Yeah, but yeah, guys, thank you so much for the support. And I cannot wait for Conor McGregor.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I'm big fan of Connor and I cannot wait what's next for him. and I'm not just saying because of you are. I know you're a big fun. I know you're a big fun. Man, like, you know, I got so much support for him and I know what, like, I'm hearing what's going on in his life
Starting point is 00:34:39 and sometimes we're getting lost and I can tell you guys, after I turned 30 years old, I thought that I knew a lot that I was experiencing enough because I had to grow so fast when I was 18, I moved to Thailand and to Holland and somewhere, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:54 being at it's such a difficult and there is lots of expectations from us and it's such a beautiful sport there's so many people working for with us helping us prepare to the fight but at the end it's only me and my opponent when I step into the octagon and it doesn't matter if you win if you lose
Starting point is 00:35:12 like both fighters win you know and I want people to understand this more because both fighters always put the same amount of work to get ready for the fights but the other thing is like when I turned 30 I thought I knew a lot already, you know, that I was like smart enough to manage my life. But the biggest beat up, like in my personal life and my fighting or business life I got when I turned 30, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:39 So it took me like some time almost two years to clear the patch, to get away from like toxic people, toxic like relationships and like bad people around me. And now I feel blessed. I feel free and I feel strong. I feel happy. And guys, take this life lessons because these lessons are the most important lessons in our life. These lessons make us stronger, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:08 make us better humans. And I want to go for it. And I keep sending lots of good energy to Connor McGregor that he's going to handle. I believe that he's going to handle this very well and he's going to back on the good part, the good way, the good road with the good energy and good people around him. Because sometimes we think that we have good people around us, but these good people, our fake friends are bringing us on the bad way, you know, on the bad roads. And they bring us down.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And when you watch like Bohemian Rhapsody, when you watch other movies about like famous people, you see these rats around, you know. I cannot compare my popularity to, you know, Freddie Mercury or Connor McGregor, but it doesn't matter who you are, you know. Be honest. Be honest with yourself. Be honest with people. And better to be honest person,
Starting point is 00:37:02 because people don't like honest people, you know. When you're too real, you know, but I prefer to be real and have like only few friends, but really people around me, then have this fake rats, you know. And I know never going to. let people bring me down. I pay the ultimate price for that.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Never, ever again. Well, Joanna, that was amazing. Thank you for those words of wisdom. Thank you so much. We will take them aboard. And guys, I want to tell you, it doesn't matter who you are, you know, if you're popular or not. There's shit happening in our lives every single day, you know. We all are fighters.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Since the time we got on this word, we have fight, we fighters, you know. We have to fight. We all have to fight our fights, you know. We all have to fight our fights. the fight is called life. Excellent. That is amazing, Joanna. Thank you so much once again. And I can't wait. After the fight, I go to Ireland, guys. Yes, please. Yes, please. We'll have to hide you.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yeah, thank you guys. Thank you so much, Joanna. I'll talk to you soon. Bye. Bye. Absolutely fantastic to speak to Yohanna and Jacek. Really looking forward to that fight with Waterson now and all the ramifications that go along with it. I'm pumped for it. Cracking fight. Absolutely one of the best fights of the year, potentially. We're going to see there. As you said, the winner gets a title shot.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Two of the best female fighters in the world. Who do you think that's that? I find that fight fascinating. I'm really excited about it with Michelle and Joanna. I think the pace of Waterson and then obviously the technique of Michelle, of Joanna, it's going to be a cracker man. Yeah, I feel like the fact that Yowana has fought way more five-round. fights is going to really stand to her and the fact that she's had that break seems really
Starting point is 00:38:54 reinvigorated there's nearly 10 months she's been out since the valentina fight so i mean i get the feeling like it's just one of those typical examples of m ms fans forgetting all about someone just because like i mean she went up and she fought valentina after beating tisha torres and it was like six weeks notice going up a weight division to fight the most dominant one of the most dominant female athletes in the world at the moment and you know she like you know it didn't go her way or whatever, but she still did that, like, and that's, like, I just feel like fans are so quick to turn on people, and, and the second rose fight was close. Very close, you know, and they're like, a lot closer than people, yeah, a lot, like, a lot closer than people thought. Revisionist history
Starting point is 00:39:31 all the time going on here, like, I mean, I don't know, I don't get it. Like, I get people, like, to see, you know, falls from grace or whatever, but I think she's far from that, you know? Like, I mean, like, she's right there, thereabouts and against Waters and we're going to see how close she is, and really, like, I feel like, Wiley Zhang and, you know, wanna be a tremendous fight. So, I mean, if that's going to happen beyond that, that would be huge. And even Waterson and Zang, there are two fights that really appeal to me, so I don't think they should
Starting point is 00:39:56 rush Wiley into a fight with Shevchenko. I feel like that's just a silly idea. Like, I know Shevchenko needs opponents, but Strawadweights, like, strawweight is savage at the moment, you know what I mean? Brilliant. Couldn't agree more. What about Tatiana Suarez there as well? I mean, there's so many people. I just feel like they need to calm down
Starting point is 00:40:12 and let this Waterson and Joanna fight play out, and let that be the contender. Let's forget about Valentina until Wiley is four defenses in or something, you know what I mean? I agree, totally agree, couldn't set it better. It just seems like the automatic thing you have to do now, right? You win one belt and you go, I'm going up. I'm going up, I need to be double champ.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Shut, fuck sake. If any more double champs, we fucking... It's completely devalues, like, just... I love Habib's kind of thing. I'll just want to be the champion here. Right, let me have a... I would be champion of every way, Clasta. I know, but, like, you know, that'd be unfair if you start.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Maybe not flyweight. Neil Sir, you come out of retirement with a debate. you but um so ksw 50 went down in london on saturday uh it wasn't the usual explosive ksw um you know but i kind of understand that because so many of these guys had their opponents switched out and you know it's it's hard to do that and they stayed on the card we should be congratulating ksw on keeping the likes of solditch and the freeze and park on this card because like they're the most important people on the card they're the people that generating interest so you know did norman win that fight
Starting point is 00:41:19 I felt he did, but I knew it was close. And I knew that DeFries' fight was close as well, even though, you know, I kind of favoured Phil. I knew it was close. I knew that Enrique's leg kicks were paying off in the later rounds. But DeFries comes out with the belt, which is the most important thing. You know, he's still the champion. He remains dominant there on top of the KSW heavyweight ranks.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And really, I do feel it's time. Like, I mean, nobody's jumping up and down to see Louis Enrique and DeFries do it again. So let's see if Bellator are interested, because that's what I think. he needs to do and I think that works both ways. I think it helps KSW and a hells Belvoir. He said Matt Mithrione, whatever, put out a tweet or something saying he'd be interested in fighting him against doing that. Like, I've no problem with it.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Bader doesn't have anyone there a heavyweight. Maybe Caratanoff, but I mean, I don't know. I feel like it's pretty shallow there at Belatown heavyweight. So Phil going over will be a huge thing, I feel. Thomas Narkoon shows us again how Domainty is that Lloyd heavyweight with a guillotine choke of Missiala he dropped him with a right hand then pounced all over it was a really nice finish actually Roberto Solich takes on a really really tough opponent uh patrax I can't say his name potrax I don't that's what his name is but this lad is like usually fights at middleway
Starting point is 00:42:35 he's a very accomplished grappler so solace is nightmare basically and he takes him on on four days notice and people are upset because he goes to a decision you're like come on man like I mean it has to be that way sometimes like what's a point in him Tony Ferguson Landauvinata. Yeah, like going hell for a letter
Starting point is 00:42:50 just to please people when he needs to hold onto that, like he needs to hold onto his dominance he needs to hold onto his win streak. I totally agree with you.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I felt like the criticism was pretty... Sometimes you need to just get in there and get out with a win and he's done that with, obviously you said four days notice
Starting point is 00:43:04 and there is a lot of fucking moaning and shit and it pisses me off when people are like that. Norman Parks takes the interim lightweight title with a win over
Starting point is 00:43:13 Mars and Jossack. We know what that's setting up. Yeah, and I mean, one thing that, Tim Edwards tweeted about this while it was on. Norman's been training with Gamrod's team. I wasn't aware of that.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Like, some of them wearing his corner and everything. Like, apparently. Jesus, I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't know it either. I was like, what the fuck. I thought they hated each other. Like, I need them to hate each other. It was.
Starting point is 00:43:34 It was deadly. You remember in Dublin they had to, like, they couldn't even bring them into the same room after the fight, like, because it was so mental. So, that's disappointing. I don't want any water being thrown on that for her. Yeah. I want to keep that shit a place.
Starting point is 00:43:45 We didn't stir some shit. Exactly. We love shit. Damien Yanikowski gets back in the win, Collium, with a very strange finish of Tony Jowels. He goes in and runs through him, takes him down, moves to sight control, and then the referee stops to fight, apparently, because Jowels had verbally tapped out. There was a lot of protestation afterwards, but, you know, I don't really, I can't really, I don't really understand what happened there. But Yanikowski seemed to think it was a finish anyway. As far as he was concerned, Joel's had verbally tapped them so I don't really know Jason Radcliffe gets a KSW win there in his debut
Starting point is 00:44:24 and Drickus de Plessis at middleweight gets a second round win over Jolton Santos who you remember for Craig White and his Cage Warriors return after his UFC stint and not a good knife for Catherine Costigan Rala Yeah she got well finished in the second round Yeah and Rola moose to three
Starting point is 00:44:46 you know, tough one for Katrin a long time out though and coming back and event like KSW is no easy out I'll tell you that much, it never is so yeah that was pretty much the KSW stuff about the UFC I mean Justin Gagethe looked fantastic
Starting point is 00:45:03 there in the main event man it was he seems to be fighting with a lot more kind of caution I'll say like not I know it was still a very violent finish but he's not just balls to the wall from the first battle. Yeah, 100%. And in terms of Cowboy Soroni,
Starting point is 00:45:21 you know, where does Cowboy go from here, man? I don't know. You know, he was sort of moaning about the stoppage. It was fine to me. Now, in fairness, he did take that back afterwards. He's like in the heat at a moment, you know? Yeah, it was a fine stoppage and a fine finish. And Gagchi was appealing to the referee
Starting point is 00:45:37 for maybe five seconds before it was stopped. Yeah, he was just poking the head off him effectively. It was a good stoppage for me. But, you know, in terms of cowboy, man, he's not where he was I wouldn't mind seeing him call it a day to be honest I know but I mean it's hard to say that but and he's one of these guys
Starting point is 00:45:52 I don't think we'll ever see him probably fully retire these guys you know take a year or eight and maybe have the odd fight here and there if the money's right or whatever but you know where does he go what it's sort of just a bit of a yo yo for him over the last couple of years
Starting point is 00:46:06 I will say though like I mean we're not that far removed from the I acquaint about you know what I mean like when it when it seemed like everything was torn up Trump's from and then of course is Ferguson, Gaetie, two very top of the food chain, lightweights, of course. You know, it's funny how public opinion can change in MMA,
Starting point is 00:46:23 and I guess he's another example of that, but you're not the only person you're saying this about Cowboy after that fight, I'll tell you that much. Is Gaichy the man for McGregor? I certainly think so I think that's a great fight. I do, you know, I like it. As we talked about earlier on, you know, I think Gaichi is that sort of one fight away
Starting point is 00:46:41 from getting that title shot with a big win over a name night McGregor, same goes for Paul Felder, but yeah, I think that is the one to make. It's the most logical one. I think the UFC, obviously, from what Connor McGregor said in that interview at Ariel, said they were close to actually making that fight last July. Whether that's true or not, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:46:58 but yeah, it does seem to be the next one in line, and we'll just have to wait and see. Is he going to fight him in Dublin on December 14th? Yes. No. But, yeah, that is the fight for Gage. If he's not getting a title shot,
Starting point is 00:47:12 that's the next best thing for him. It's a big money. fight as well so yeah do it why not it didn't go well for nikita kroyloff it's been apache returns to the ufc for the ukrainian um another win over a european for glover to share and what a 2019 he's having that's carl robinson ion cutie laba and nikita kroyloff three fights in about nine months that's that's pretty incredible yeah i mean i thought he was done after the kori anderson loss and now three wins in a row it's back you know that's in that division as well three wins can nearly get you a title shot a we said before Blackwoods won't like the sound of that.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yeah. Well, there you go. Maybe that's who yes. I don't want to hurt the Jan. But yeah, listen. A couple more wins. He's right in the door, definitely. We'll talk about this last fight and then we'll move
Starting point is 00:47:58 through just to the European guys. Todd Duffy and Jeff Hughes, interesting. I felt as though Todd Duffy had spent himself. I think he was looking for a way out, man. That's the way I look at. Hughes didn't seem... Like, we've seen... Look, we've seen some pretty horrendous.
Starting point is 00:48:14 this eye pokes and I mean it's probably it is impossible to know how bad it is unless you're the guy getting in the eye but I thought that was just strange you know the whole situation like I mean are we wrong to criticize a further saying I can't continue because I have double vision like I mean I don't know like I did like I just look at his body look the way he was sort of projected himself it looked as though he was done as you said I was looking for a way out and yeah listen I wasn't too um like the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor doctor had effectively told him you're ready to go yeah that's fine and he said i can't see yeah um you can even hear dc struggling with it on from the commentary like i mean he was like uh yeah like
Starting point is 00:48:56 what do you say what do you do you run it back um i don't know um i believe you know show for uh i can't i can't imagine a couple of interviews as well today so um i can't imagine dana hoy was jumping up and down to see that no especially i think i think duffy has had a bit of a rollercoaster with him as it is so Yeah, they've had a very sort of frosty relationship over the years and, you know, four years out and you return like that. Just leaves a bit of a bad taste in the mouth, man. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know, Pereira, who we're just talking about earlier, who last... Fucking antics of that guy.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I know, but I mean... I'm hilarious. Like, I mean, that's what he does, you know, that's what he does. And, I mean, it's so funny that when he makes his debut and it comes off against Roberts, everyone's saying, he's my new favorite fighter to this guy's a clown. Within one fight, like, I mean, we are a very fickle fan base. But it was a bit LTT, that's some of the stuff he was doing. But that's what he does. That's the way he fights.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I mean, I mean, look at his record. I mean, there's no evidence to suggest this guy as a world beater. I mean, it's just, that's what he does. And I guess it looks really bad if it doesn't come off, and it looks really good if it does come off. Yeah, it looks fucking stupid. You don't know, to be honest. I could crack watchers, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:50:08 It's like me fucking trying to do the worm in the caves. You know what I mean? Like, ah, here. Not a fan, though? No. All right, okay. Misha Serkenoff with a beautiful Peruvian necktoy. So rare.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Your favourite, Petyy. Oh, man, I love that fucking technique. It's very hard to get, though. Like, I mean, it's really, really tough. You have to be on the perfect place on the guys back. You've attempted to give me them in hotels when you're drunk. Yeah, and I can't figure it out. If I can't do it when I'm drunk, I don't know how Misha Serkenoff,
Starting point is 00:50:37 professional athlete can pull it off on a fight. I mean, wow. But, yeah, he finished Jim. Crewt, who was, that's his first professional loss. Beef on Crout. Oh, there you go. Very nice. Don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:50:49 But Augusta Sokoy also got a devastating finish of Marson Toibura, just a minute into their fight. Absolutely battered him up against the casual. The referee stopped the fight. And just of note as well for European fans, Brad Catona of SBG, suffered a loss to Hunter Azure. That's him now 8 and 2. I believe that's two loss on the bounce for Brad Cotona.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And just as Noel nearly falls off us here. But, yeah, I mean. All right, no. Yeah, not too bad. But that's all really we have of note here for the Europeans. So will we push on with our second interview of the day? Okay, well, let's speak to Mr. Paul Feldar, who everybody is dying to hear from following his win over Edson Barbosa.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Barbosa has protested. He said he will appeal the win, I mean the defeat, I guess, in his case. and of course we asked him about the McGregor sweepstakes. Everybody is keen to be the man to fight Connor McGregor and Paul Felder is one of those names that is generating more and more interest. So let's see what 0-200 had to say to us and let's see if his skin has held up
Starting point is 00:51:57 after that blazing Abu Dhabi Sun. Season about 15. Delighted to welcome back on the show and coming off a fantastic performance and win at UFC 242 in Abu Dhabi. I believe he is now fighting at light, heavyweight he's put on so much weight over the last week. It is the Irish Dragon Paul Fetter. Paul, my friend, how are you putting on the pounds, I believe?
Starting point is 00:52:20 I am. I'm on my way to go lift with my strength and conditioning coach Rich Polar here in Jersey, but I've actually, believe it or not, I haven't gotten as fat as I normally do after a fight because I've been able to actually work out and move around and take walks. I mean, I went I went for a five-mile walk with my daughter the other day to my mom's house. Just threw her in a little coach, a little stroller, took her out. I couldn't do that when I had lung surgery or broken arms and broken legs and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:52:52 So it's nice to come out of a fight and be able to live my life. Paul, I've got to ask you, and it was an issue and a team all week on Fight Week, the heat in the arena. How bad and how challenging was the heat in the arena? It was really hot, it was really humid. But I had some time to prepare for that because I fought so late in the night. So, you know, Belaw, my teammate fought before me. And Duke was there and Daniel Vandela. And they were kind of warning us like, hey, it's really hot as soon as you step out of the warm-up room.
Starting point is 00:53:28 So don't do a crazy warm-up. Don't do anything over the top. You're going to be warmed up. You're going to be sweaty. So you don't need to burn yourself out. And my guy from Lockhart Ian, Chef Ian, man, hooked it up. He anticipated how sweaty he was going to be and gave me another rehydration shake a few hours before I left for the arena to get some more electrolytes in me.
Starting point is 00:53:51 So props to him on thinking ahead like that. So I felt rehydrated and good. It's very sweaty I was going through those rounds. I want to ask you, it was obviously he was evident to see, you know, you were in tears after the fight. I know how much that fight meant you to get that win back. I noticed your jihitsu coach, as you mentioned there, Daniel Wanderle was actually in tears too.
Starting point is 00:54:16 What did he say after the fight? Because it was very emotional. He's just saying you did it, man. You got that one. We did it, you know. And just all week when he was there, you know, I'd be drilling with him. And he's like, listen, this one is yours.
Starting point is 00:54:29 He got the first one. You get this one. And, you know, we'll move on from there. But you got what it takes. to beat this guy. You didn't have the structure and the things and the maturity to do it when you fought him the first time.
Starting point is 00:54:44 It meant so much as far as us, man, because they knew how much it meant to me. They can feel that the whole camp. They can feel my nervous energy, my you know, I've told you too how terrified I kind of fight him again because I knew what I was going into. I knew
Starting point is 00:54:59 the pain and the brutality of what a fight with it in Barbosa is like and I 100% was anticipating another war. You know, I don't go in there ever assuming I'm going to knock anybody out. You know, those are rewards. How did you feel, Paul, when the judges were calling out the scorecards? You know, we've seen what Edson has said.
Starting point is 00:55:21 He believes it was his fight. I believe it could have gone either way. It was a really, really close fight, in my opinion. It was a 29, 28 all day. I don't know where to. The judge's got a 3027. But, you know, the other thing we spoke off all out of air there a few minutes ago about your work from the back and I was actually really happy to see that the judges actually scored for your elbows
Starting point is 00:55:40 and your arm bar attempt. What was your feeling going into the decision? Well, you know, the first thing I did, still my hands up, because I knew it was going to be razor close, right? I've never denied that. I know how close this fight was. I know that it could have realistically gone out of the way. Look at the numbers. You know, we were necking overall through more strikes, landed more, but that's overall because of my first. third round. He might have edged me out with a couple strikes here and there in the first two rounds. He definitely I thought he won the first round. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:13 But based on my aggression, and, you know, when I land shots, I feel like I staggered him a few times. I don't think he ever fucking once staggered me in that fight. The only time he got cut open was some freaking headbuts, whether they were my fault or his fault. That doesn't matter. They were not from his significant strikes.
Starting point is 00:56:33 And I didn't take a step back. I mean, I moved forward the whole time. I was throwing with lethal intention to knock him out. When I was on my back, I split him open, and I forced him to disengage from a top position on the mat where he could have easily tried to sit and win that round, but he couldn't because of the damage that I was doing. Yeah, I agree. I won that round, and everybody that thinks otherwise are entitled to your opinion, it was a split decision.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Get over it. I agree. I agree. It could have gone either way. It was a razor-close fight. Were you disappointed with Edson's Instagram post on his actions on what he said after the fight? Because it has sort of come across a little bit
Starting point is 00:57:14 as like Sarah Grapes. Yeah, you know, I know he's upset. And I know he's not had the best winning record lately. So I feel for him, I feel for his family. I know how much the money needs to him. I know his wife even came out and said something like, if I have all these other opportunities, you know, why don't I go take them?
Starting point is 00:57:36 You know, emotion. and financial stuff and when you think you won the fight, we both thought we won that fight, so I get it. Is it upsetting me? Did it leave a bad taste in my mouth that these guys, so I thought I was really cool
Starting point is 00:57:52 with her basically just saying it was a high robbery. I mean, that's what upset me most. It's like, listen, if you just admitted it was razor close and you think you got to nod, okay, the judges, yeah, they're all over the place.
Starting point is 00:58:07 but two of them scored it for me, not you. I mean, it sucks. I've been on the other end of split decisions. I've lost two split decisions in the UFC. So going into that decision, you know, I'm nervous and telling. If you look at his face, so is Heath. I know they were confident and yelling, you got this, on this. But so is Duke.
Starting point is 00:58:28 And we're all just trying to put positive vibes out there and keep everybody, you know, from losing their mind in these situations. There's so much tension when you're waiting for those. decisions, especially after a war like me and him had where it was justice. We beat the crap out of each other. Denial, though that's upset me, I think, most of all, right? I just have this epic rematch with Edson Barbosa, the number seven guy versus the number 10 guy, and we go at it.
Starting point is 00:58:55 We're obviously fighting a night. I know we didn't get awarded it because Dana did four performance moments because of all the knockouts of the night. But we're on fight of the night again. Easily. Put on even, and it put on an even better battle than we did the first time. And what are we all talking about? Arguing back and on who should, it's like, wow, that's, that's really unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Is it disrespectful? Do you feel disrespected? Yeah, I kind of do. I'll be, I'll be honest. I can't sit here and say that I don't feel slighted in some way. And I feel like so much of my social media, instead of feeling, you know, the love for my fans and number seven in the world, instead, I'm dealing with. all his fans basically trying to trash me. Have you moved on from this now?
Starting point is 00:59:41 You know, I think it makes sense for you to move on and look ahead, but is there any interest in you, you know, running a back? I said what I had to say because, you know, at the end of the day, that's possibility. I mean, I want to do it right away? No, I mean, I'm number seven in the world right now, and there's some guys ahead of me that I've been itching and scheduled the fight. You know, me and Al, still have unfinished business. And I love that guy.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I think that guy's awesome. But if he beats Dan Hooker, you know, I think that's a great matchup. Obviously, I want to fight Justin Gachie someday, but I feel like he's really deserving of a really big fight moving forward. I'm not fighting cowboy. So it's very limited on who's ahead of me, so we'll see what happens from here. But, you know, I don't know. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I'm curious to see what happened, to be honest with it. What did you make of Connor McGregor's tweet last night? He put out a tweet saying 14th of December in Dublin. I don't know what that's about. There's a UFC pay-per-view on the same day. Is that something that would interest you? Fighting him? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Yeah, I like making money now, so of course I wouldn't mind. And plus he's up there. You know, he's got numbers next to his name that I want to take. I think, man, you want to talk about a fight that, you know it's going to be a goddamn striking battle with me. and Conner's obviously going to not try to take me down either but I'm also one of those people that's not going to sit here and play his game and beg for something like that I know I'm not because of the guy that's going to get it
Starting point is 01:01:15 so I'm not going to go crazy trying to but I was absolutely love to throw down with him you mentioned one thing as well that sort of caught my ears in the post-fight interview that it was the toughest way he could of your career yes you still made 155 pounds why was the cut so hard Paul I think at this at this stage in my life.
Starting point is 01:01:38 I'm a big old boy, man. I'm getting thicker. I'm getting stronger. I'm always working with really good strength and conditioning coaches, whether it's in Philly with Rich or Matt Gifford in Wisconsin now. And I just felt big to that fight. I did everything right. You know this.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I died the whole eight weeks. I had a chef cooking for me, all these things. I took all the possibilities of temptation out of my life, no peanut butter even. in the house because I get my fingers into that late at night I just
Starting point is 01:02:12 I don't even want to say the numbers on what I had to cut the night before but it it got dicey and we got through it and Ian from Lockhart man I love that guy those him and Jay
Starting point is 01:02:27 did my cut and thanks to my team too Craig Eccleberg my teammate is always there for me during these stuff and but yeah it was the first cut in the wild
Starting point is 01:02:39 of 55 where I was like holy shit I just does that change things? Does that change things going forward? Man you know
Starting point is 01:02:49 it's so crazy about weight cutting is we lots fighters have such a short memory for for pain like that right
Starting point is 01:02:55 I mean if you had asked me that night of the weight cut I was called my mom in the middle of the night I called one of my
Starting point is 01:03:02 friends Brian Jones and I was just hurting and everybody was trying to basically convince me to move up to 170 and I was like, you can't tell me that and that's it you kept telling people you can't
Starting point is 01:03:14 you can't tell me that my mind is not thinking anything other than beating Edson Barbosa tomorrow and that is at a 55 pound at the point I was on weight I made weight I made it the night before it was horrible. You made championship weight which was pretty insane
Starting point is 01:03:32 if you're talking about how how difficult the court was to steal get on on 155 pounds was incredible. Part of it was probably that, too, that we were low. Those last pounds or so, man, they add up, boy. That's a pound of water. You know what I mean? People don't realize that, that don't cut weight.
Starting point is 01:03:52 That's a pound of water. They're like, oh, it's one pound. I'm like, yeah, try sweating it out. I know I couldn't do it, dude. But you're definitely going to be at 155 pounds for your next fight. listen I'm going to do a couple little adjustment I think next time I think there's I'm just going to cut a little more in the morning hours I think I've been trying to push it later just so I'm not suffering during the day but based on how that one went I think
Starting point is 01:04:22 getting on top of it a little sooner so I can get a little more rest in between the pound I'll just have to look worse for wear at media day and here I am saying it now so next fight that Paul Felgers and you guys at Media Day just be nice to me. Yeah, you were surprisingly in very good form at Media Day. Normally you're very grumpy. I don't blame you to be grumpy. Yeah, it was pretty good
Starting point is 01:04:47 because I kept the weight cut to a minimum that morning. I always wake up and do a pad setting with Duke with the sauna dude on and cut a few pounds. I only cut about I think four and a half tons in the morning.
Starting point is 01:05:02 And then media day so normally I might do a little more next day so people are want to go to know Paul obviously you know I would imagine you wouldn't be back in the cage before Christmas
Starting point is 01:05:17 what is the time frame when you want to get back in there is it after Christmas yeah well we'll see man I feel pretty good right now I've got a lot of commentary gigs like but the UFC is well aware that I'm fighter first until I retire So I'll do these first few, and we're in the middle of we're going to start renegotiating a new contract with Sean or Dana and figure that out.
Starting point is 01:05:43 How many fights have you got left in your current deal? I technically have more fights. I'm on my last fight, so it's either re-up or be a free agent. And I have no desire to really be a free agent. I feel like the UFC knows I'm a company guy now. And, you know, I've put my body on the last few years and have always put on a fight-of-the-night-type fight. So I'm hoping this goes well, and we get what we want, and we get a big name next. And if it's sooner than next year, I think I could make it happen.
Starting point is 01:06:16 My mom might have a freaking heart attack. But, yeah, man, I'm trying to push the pedal to the medal, as we say. If there's a name. If there's a name you could have now, you want to fight someone, who is it? I would say Justin Gagie or Dustin Polk. Why does Dustin become so attractive to you? Justin, Justin. Dustin, he just fought with a belt.
Starting point is 01:06:48 I mean, if I can skip the line, jump ahead like that, I mean, shit. And he's a great striker, great boxer. I feel like it lends for the kind of fun that I'm used to being in. The fans wants him. what happens where we're getting a bonus it's going to be one of those fights that's just back and forth
Starting point is 01:07:06 who's tougher who can take the bigger shots and that just those are the kind of fight to turn me on and does the same go for Dustin then as well or Justin Gage you should I say Dustin Justin
Starting point is 01:07:16 Justin's just a freaking savage man like I said I never I never I don't call this guy because I have anything again I mean you just told you did to one of my friends and cowboy and I love to get in there and test myself.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I do think that that guy's going to be fighting for the belts today, so you know, these are the guys you've got to beat. You've got to be the toughest dudes out there in order, if I can't beat these guys, you know, I got to, no chance against Habib, because he's just going to, you know, out-wrestle
Starting point is 01:07:48 everybody. Have you watched back that fight? What did you make of it? Is it, you know, do you see Tony Ferguson giving Habib problems? What did you think of his performance against Dustin? I thought he did what he did. needed to do, man. And, you know, he avoided most of the damage.
Starting point is 01:08:03 He's caught in some of Dustin's best submissions and was able to get right out of him and just break him on the ground like he does, man, just pressure, like crazy. And, you know, I do still think he's got to work on his striking. If he can get exposed there, it's got to be early, man. You've got to let him know right away what he's in for, because if you let him push him back, forget about it. Yeah, I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Paul Felder, enjoy your shit food for the next week and get back into camp soon because I think everyone's pretty excited to see you get back in there again. I'm looking forward to seeing you back in there again. I always appreciate the time, my friend.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I love talking to you, man. I'll get over to... Eat some Kerry Gold. Ireland. Eat a splash of Kerry Gold butter. My man, I appreciate it. And great to hear from Paul Felder. El Dragano Irlandese.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Oh, yes. Well, in perfect Spanish, just ahead of this weekend. I'm going to Spain next week. Oh, yeah, that's correct. New York. You're going to Australia. That is correct. That's amazing. Yeah, so pressing on.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Beware. Jesus. He's putting on the Tinder Plus for that one, then. We got rid of it. Did you? Yeah. Well, can we leave that to the end of the show? All right, sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I can't wait to talk to you about that, though. Well, this weekend, we have a, you know, UFC, Mexico City. Mexico. Yeah, Rodriguez and Jeremy Stevens in that main event. That's a very tasty main event. Sorry, I don't speak Spanish.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I'm a man. I'm an anchor man. I'm annoying you. I'm like, yes. Daddy. So underneath, yeah Rodriguez and Jeremy Stevens
Starting point is 01:09:51 is the co-main event, which is Carla Asparza and Alexa Grasso, but... Oh, look, wait for it. I'm very, very, very excited. He's aroused. it because Ascar Ascarov is finally making his UFC debut. That's class of 2018 prospects to watch in Europe for Peter Carroll.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Yes, I do call them. And this fella is a magician. He's actually, he's death. He's a deaf guy. He's won wrestling championships. He's an amazing grappler. He's actually deaf. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Wow. And he is just unbelievable, man. His grappling is psycho. It's not like anything in the UFC at the moment. And Brandon Moreno was a great test for him straight off the bat. I mean, Moreno... Exactly. Like, I mean, if Ascarov can get through him,
Starting point is 01:10:35 he's going to light another little fuse in that flyweight division, which we believe should be hanging around. So I'm very, very excited about this, I have to say. Really, really excited. And I think that matching him up at Moreno shows that the UFC can see the potential in this guy, when you agree. I would agree.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Definitely, Moreno's no fucking mug, man. And to go in and start like that. I'm really fascinated now to know more about this guy. Yeah, he's a lot of. I'm believing that to me. Because I remember you speaking about him. But how does his corner communicate? Did he do sign language?
Starting point is 01:11:09 I don't actually know. I can remember. I talked to Luke Thomas about this once because he's a big fan of Ascroft as well. And I actually didn't know until he had that conversation. He said he was deaf. I'd been watching for years. I just didn't know. I knew he didn't do many interviews.
Starting point is 01:11:22 But his talent is absolutely astronomical. There's a lot of fights here, not of European interest, I will say. But we do with Paul Craig there. on the prelims against Venetius Morera. He does need a win, absolutely. Is it win or a marching order situation? Yeah. We look like he's what, he's four and two in his last six.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Two and four. Two and four. It's not the worst record though. Three and four isn't terrible in the UFC. It's not, but it's not ideal. You know, Paul has sort of faded in a lot of his fights, in my opinion. So the longer the fight goes, he just sort of gets really sloppy. And I think he needs a performance, maybe.
Starting point is 01:12:01 as well is probably the word. And definitely needs a win in my eyes. What are you grinning at? Nothing. I actually, I don't know. I realize I was grinning when you say it, but just listen to your fantastic voice, my friend. It is. Good enough.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Dulcet tones. Oh, yeah. Anything else jumping out for you there? Is Sergio Pettus against Tyson NAM on the other car there? I always like watching Alexa Grasso followed her career since Invicta. Tough test against our spars. And nothing's really jumping out to me.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Sergio Pettis Tyson, Nam, Goodscrap, is it Nam's debut? Or is he returning? Returning, I believe. Have a look here, yeah, but he's only been, he's only recently back with the promotion anyway. So that's a interesting fight. I think it's a replacement as well, if I'm sure. Yeah, Alex Perez was originally supposed to fight. Sergio, so.
Starting point is 01:12:48 What do you think I have an arseways, actually, has he ever found the U.S. I don't know. He was in WS.O.F. I know he's on F global as well. No, he's never. I always thought he had fought in the O.C. He hasn't. He's a name, like.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Yeah, he is. He's a well-known. name he's a commodity um yeah should that be a good good scrap that bet cohea against sahara eubanks that's a yeah sahara's coming off a lost too um who was it she she lost there recently um aspen lad yes if i'm not correct that's an interesting no you are you are correct um yeah that's a good fight um that's gonna be actually i'd say that could be quite an aggressive striking fight yeah you love the main events yeah stevens and e i year yeah i love love that. Yeah, I really do like that a lot.
Starting point is 01:13:33 It's another really... The hardest hitting 145 pair. It's Jeremy Stevens, that's who it is. Yar. Yeah, Yara feels like, I mean, it's not a great style matchup for Yara, I wouldn't say, because the pressure is unlivable
Starting point is 01:13:46 with Stevens, isn't it? It is. Not really going to give him a lot of space to be trying crazy techniques, I wouldn't imagine. Yeah, that fight against Chang-Young, Yang, Zhang. Chang-sung. Nailed it. Jesus Christ. was absolutely phenomenal that finish.
Starting point is 01:14:03 So it is. It's one of those ones that is sort of, I think we'll be disappointed if we're not talking about an explosive finish on Sunday morning. So I'm looking forward to it. Go either way. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:14:13 I do think that forepressure is going to be a problem from. But it's going to be a big... When Stevens gets going. It's going to be a big one for him, though, if he wins in Mexico, I feel like it's going to look amazingly. Home City and all that. Yeah, it's a big, big one from...
Starting point is 01:14:27 It'll definitely push him back up there in the title contention. again, I would imagine. You've probably noticed that Noel's mind has been elsewhere when he's talking about this car because this weekend, something very big is happening. Is it this weekend? The Rugby World Cup? Oh yeah, Friday, the World War Cup starting.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Oh, my God. They're playing on Sunday against Scotland. What time? I think it's 1130 here, 10.30. It's early, though. A lot of the games are going to be on like half five and shit like that way. Oh, yeah, because they're eight hours ahead. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:54 So a few the lads are gone over for a few minutes. Tell them to check out the Golden Guy. It is the way forward in Japan. It's amazing, man. It's like that all that area with them small little bars. In fact, they had to quadruple their beer production. Tell you what, they don't have to quadruple their whiskey, man. They have any amount of whiskey over there.
Starting point is 01:15:12 I'm not messing with you. A bottle of that. Saki stuff you got me. I haven't drank yet. Yeah, that's more of a sweetener that one. I might have a drop on Sunday morning, but don't be drinking any alcohol with the way I'm feeling today. But, yeah. I think you'll find a way through somehow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:26 I'm actually going to, I think I'm going to go on the drying now until I head off to me or. I'll go next Wednesday. That's next Wednesday, is it? Wednesday, is it? So we're going to have to try and do some weird recording thing before you go or something, get get started? We'll work it out. We'll always do that shit for you guys.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Tell me about this now. You're going to Spain and you've parted Ways or Tinder. Is this a first ex-promote? No, I'm not at Tinder. I just got rid of Tinder Plus. Right, right. Oh, okay. So, I mean, until you land there, you can't really explore the potential suitors for you then, really.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Sure, there'll be plenty. I mean, they'll be queuing up outside the hotel. I wouldn't give away. IP address or anything with that. It's actually busy there because like one of the, you got a late addition to come over with us as well and one of their lads and he was finding hard to get a hotel for the
Starting point is 01:16:10 Friday night so it's pretty busy in Palma. Have you booked a number of rooms just around the city just in case? Yeah. I've been a number of hotspots they call them. I'm gonna cry hotspots in Palma. So yeah, we're sorted in that front Pete.
Starting point is 01:16:25 I'm sure the minute I get on the plane, the air house desks will be. I just hope you come back in one piece. She's sort of I. It's a fear I carry all over the world. The way I'm feeling today, I could easily wilt under the pressure. Yes. Yes, indeed. It was a busy weekend of drinking.
Starting point is 01:16:42 It was unnecessary as well. Do you know, that sometimes it just happens? And she's like, oh, fuck it. I was a superstar this Saturday. Shout up in the pub just before last orders. It's had two groups of friends in the same pub. The Royal Grapman Academy were there. I went over and said, hello, got in and out
Starting point is 01:16:58 quickly without the money. I ain't I'm choking me. I was very happy with that. Jesus, normally this way around, other way around. You give this a lot of few beers. Anytime we're away, you know, after fight night happens, Ptie's fucking there on the bench, and take my fucking knee home. You think the Gracie do a good breakdown? You want to see me on the sauce after a UFC event?
Starting point is 01:17:17 It's actually a nightmare. Unbelievable. It's a nightmare. Unbelievable, techers. But yeah, that's all we got for you. I hope you enjoyed the show. We certainly enjoyed each other's company. Did me?
Starting point is 01:17:27 Why do you hurt me? Why did you just hurt me? all the time. Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozie, Oie, Oie. I'm not looking forward to the flight, but I'm looking forward to being there. It's good, it's a good spot. Yeah, well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Be nice and, getting nice and warm there as well. Is it going to be Abu Dhabi warm, like? No, no, no, no. Their summer's November, December. We're not going to be touching the 40 degree. It'd be nice. I'd be 20 odd, I'd imagine. Oh, that'd be lovely.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Oh, it won't be 50. Not worth it. Not worth the 26-hour flight, I doubt it, but. Paul Feller still either. Anyway, it'd be all right. Yeah, me and Paul have to compare. sun cream yeah
Starting point is 01:18:01 listen to your gainer you did it was quite funny actually you said to him are you melting with him
Starting point is 01:18:06 Paul's really fair like yeah me Mike Brown and Paul were all kind of keeping on tabs on each
Starting point is 01:18:13 are you okay yeah come on fight the power but yeah that's the crack anyway lads
Starting point is 01:18:19 we love you very much you know we do so we'll see you next week I guess and I hope the weekend
Starting point is 01:18:25 and the week is good to you all the best mhm give me kiss Thanks.

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