MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 54 (w/ Jack Hermansson, Jack Shore)

Episode Date: September 24, 2019

On the latest Eurobash, Jack Hermansson (11:00) discusses the middleweight title picture ahead of his UFC Copenhagen main event clash with Jared Cannonier. Also featured, undefeated Welsh prospect Jack Shore (35:00) looks forward to his UFC debut, which also takes place at the Copenhagen event. Hosts Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath discuss the latest news in European MMA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It is just disgusting. It is, but the rubies on, Peter. So we have to stay strong and support our boys. Absolutely. We're going to win the World Cup after. We weren't, we were shied for the last year and now we're brilliant again. I know. It's a very weird game.

I don't understand how we lose by 50 points to England and then we're still number one team in the world. It's really confusing. Yeah, it is weird. It's just the ranking systems is mental. It's a bit like mixed martial arts. Beautiful comparison. There we are, yeah.

It's all over the shot. How many matches would you, like say when I was really into soccer, I'd probably watch every single match. Has it been like that for you? I was excited on the first day, but it's died in an awful death since then. Has it been bad? It's just you get a lot of mismatches. Like they have to sort of try and build the teams in terms like the, the George's there,

the rushes. There's a big discrepancy from the top sort of six teams down to them. so you get a lot of sort of probably good games enough to watch but this you know when they're playing the bigger sides they're going to get a drubin like there's no chance you're wasting your money putting money on it like would peak noil mcgras get his game on the russian national thing i'll get my game pique noah mcgra would surf a new zealand that's a good point that's stupid question oh my god get out with the mhm and me sorry man yeah of course let's let's hit up this the news for this week babba da babba it's the latest news on euro bash all right um vulcan osdemeer is going

a fight Alexander Rackich on December 24th. What a fight that is, man. Osdimir and Rackich, fuck right off. That's amazing, man. Yeah, it's a good scrap. I mean, Osdemeer's just kind of bounced back into the wind column and then you have this Uber prospect at 205. That's a serious fight, man. But I think that's what they're trying to do. They're looking to fast track guys now. And I think Osdimir after those three losses and obviously bouncing back last time out, it's a good opponent for me in terms of that because is Osdimir going to get back for a time? Osamaire was in Rackage's position. That's what I mean.

You know? So it's voice versa now. They need people to start hitting the top of that division or it's getting very, very slim. And, you know, John Jones, obviously. I think it might be, like, I know, like, I know historically has had way more competition. But at the moment, it's not too bad. Like, I mean, compared to what we were. No, but they need to, they need to build that guy.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, 100%. And you know, you have Johnny Walker. You have Corey Anderson. Jan Blackhovic's now coming off that, um, that, uh, Luke Rockhold. Now he's taking on Jackeray. I mean, it's interesting. interesting enough but yeah I do get your point there's still a massive goal in terms of talent so

but it's good to see I think and obviously with you know and we thought we might see Jones and Steepay that's not happening so it's looking like Cormier and and um and uh steep A part three so yeah why now um Shane Burgos v macwan amerkani has been added to the UFC 244 card in new York that's going to be macwan's long-awaited US debut the man is usually only exclusively fought in Europe up until this point so that's going to be good to see big news just after the podcast broke last week

standard yeah I mean if we stop recording boom James Galaher will now face Roman Salazar in the Belator main event this Friday Carl Eleanor revealed a potentially career threatening scan which forced them out of the card

I don't think the there's any finality in that just yet from what I hear Carl is looking into a few things. So hopefully whatever way that goes, it will be of benefit to him. Another bit of news that slipped

through the cracks. Belator actually put this at the end of a press release that was announcing their broadcast. It's like Charlie Ward isn't on the card either. I noticed that a couple of weeks ago. Did you? I mean, I was like, someone goes to me today, Charlie Ward's out and I was like, what? Yeah, they're very, like, they were advertising Reds. We knew about

Reds are six weeks before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, I'm not down that. I think it'd sell them wolf tickets to people. Grandfriene for a week, but like literally Redsard was in the card for... We didn't know for sure. Sure, of course, but, you know... These things happen. Pure L. Pietro Petrini will not have an opponent anyway. But Joey Herbert's first title defence has been booked for Cage Warriors, 109 in Birmingham.

Couldn't be a better location. And he's going to fight Kane Carrizzosa, who who I believe is a former UFC fighter. Also announced today by yours truly was Alexander Illich, the man who shocked the world with that head kick knockout, Damien Janakowski, KSW 47, will take on Cesari Kessich at KSW 51 in Zagreb. Huge addition to that card. Obviously, Illich from the Balkan area is there,

and he made a huge name for himself off that Yanukowski win. So, yeah, that's all the headlines I got. I might have missed a few, but what can you do? Yeah, but Brandon Gertz is out of his fight. that's off the Bellator card as well. Yeah, the John Tuck had stepped in to replace Paul Redmond. But you know what? It's not like... It's not, yeah. It's not a game change. Once Redmond was gone, I mean, nobody really was going. I can't wait to see Brandon Gertz.

No offense to him. It's just... I feel like the Bellator cards are really geared towards the regional audience. Definitely. Speaking of that Bellator card, Brian Moore's gone. Charlie Ward's gone. Paul Redmond's gone. Carl Eleanor's out. And in fairness to Carl Eleanor, he had done a lot to drum up at that fight with James Gallowher. and he had really sold to me as in I was compelled to see how James would get on against this guy I'd seen Carl fight Nathan Grayson and

yeah I mean has the card suffered greatly do you feel massively? I think you know the stock sort of Paul's got remand especially in my opinion as we've talked about and you know Paul's sort of taken over that mantle

as the old Irish meat head vet of mixed martial arts here and it was very very tough to see Paul get pulled off that card and obviously best wishes to him with the foot and getting healed up but yeah it has and then you've James' opponent

within a week change and Brian Moore off the card Brian always brings a big audience and eyes especially over his last couple of performances and Charlie's been on a great run as well 3 and O bell at all you know so yeah it has man

it's disappointing that's happened but like you know as I said the other day I think it tweeted out you've people moaning about the card and shit this shit happens in mixed martial arts there's nothing you can do about it guys get injured it's the first of the first thing fight game. It's the hurt business. We've just

been unfortunate in Dublin with a number of cards. If you remember the infamous UFC card here as well. It's a hard place to put on an event. It is. That's the truth. There was huge reaction to Roman Salazar being announced as James Geller's new opponent. I think

this is crazy. You're going to get on the guy when he's accepted a fight a week away from a fight. A week away from this main event his opponent was forced off the card and people are going, oh, who's this bum? If you think it's clever

for James to fight like a big name, some big names are calling him out when this dropped off. If you think that's clever to James to fight one of these guys on a week's notice. It's idiotic.

It's idiotic. It is. And a lot of guys do this and I pointed this out as well. A lot of guys put their hands up, no, and they're not going to get a fight saying, you know, it's put their public images.

If they're down to fight anyone, they've bloods to do, they've head scans to do. They have to fly in, you know, logistics from the US and stuff like that. These guys know they're not getting a fight half of them that are putting their hands up. So fair fucks to Salazar for stepping up and taking the fight. A fair play to James more than anyone for taking the fight, as you said.

Total different matchup for him now. Big, big risk. And he's been preparing for an obviously for a guy like Cal Eleanor and a week. Come on. Give the guy some plaudits. Look, this guy has twice the experience James has. He has fought in the UFC three times. He lost three times.

I mean, he fought kid Yamamoto. Yeah. I mean, lads. A late kid, Yanamoto. Yeah. Look, I mean, if you think this is a walk in the park, like, oh, he's getting under a can, like, ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. I think when I see people talking like that, it's like, oh, and look, this is pretty common.

Oh, you don't like James. Like, yeah, okay, that's why you're complaining. It's nothing to do with a stand-up opponent. Oh, 90% of it is. You know, you get to hold up. And that's, and basically, that's what he's trying to do. So, I mean, he's succeeding there, I guess. You're talking, dickets.

Yeah, I mean, like, the people are going to me, like, why isn't he fighting Don Woody? And I was like, if you were his manager and you recommend he fight, Don Wooden. You're a moron in the week's notice. And look, James said he likes that fight. But as well as that, if you want to take Franz Malambo and Don Wooding off that card, you're mental. That's a grave fight. That's unbelievable. It's one of the best fights on the car.

I'm obviously not here this week as you know, Pizzi, but I'm going to be chaining in over there. I can't wait for Friday. I'm going on the sun and then I'm going on the app's going to be on and I'm going to whack it all out. I'm going to get my York invested in MMA. I'll tell you what. I'll go Instagram live. for the cracks. I fucking join me on Friday from New York if you want. I will. I'll try to.

I'll try to. While I'm meant to be watching the points, just watching Noel watching him. Something must have happened. But listen, fair play to James for stepping up as well. Could have easily pulled out of the card. I probably would have pulled out of the card. A lot of other fighters would have. Well done James. Yeah, and look, it's like, he has his career, man. He's like on this

trajectory and he takes this fight in a week's notice. And people are going to give him shit. Like, it's just, oh. That's baffling. M.A. fans, man. Just, just crazy sometimes. Yeah. We'll talk about Mexico later. look there's lots to talk about this week we've spent a bit of time there on Bellator we spent a more time in it later we've also got UFC Copenhagen and guess who's pop boy

for an old chat ahead of his main event his main event foot another bumper week after last week absolutely last week was was explosion fireworks all over the place we have the two Jacks this week so we'll start off with the first one the main event actually we have the top and tails of the card jack shore's out I think he's a curtain joker and then It must be the most common name in mixed martial arts these days. Jack, yeah.

There's so many Jacks, man. Fucking hell. But let's hear from the Joker himself, a huge fight. He's on this amazing streak. He's taking a huge risk and taking on Jared Cannon here. But it could pay off hugely if he managed to get that big win in front of his daring Scandinavian crowd. It's Jack Hermanson.

We'll be back in about 15 minutes. Enjoy. And now we are joined by the man who will hold the main event slot this weekend at UFC Copenhagen. perhaps fighting in one of the biggest fight of his life it's jack her manson who's carrying a great win streak into this fight against jared caronair he is up to his eyeballs all day he is doing all kinds of press he has just released a documentary it's all go for jack hermanson how are you jack thank you very much for the fine introduction i'm awesome how you guys are you guys doing

yes great but i mean this is crazy right you this is this seems like a really busy schedule for you this week ahead of this fight yeah for sure Sure, for sure. It's a lot of things going on and of course the big fight at the weekend. So, a busy week, but this is fun. Is this the most amount of the UFC or any other organization has made you doing ahead of a big fight like this? Yeah, probably, I believe it is. So, but that's a good thing. It's going the right way. So if you don't get any intention, then something's not right.

I'm happy with the current situation. Yes, yes, and I mean that's also a good way to show them, you know, how valuable you are, right? If you're going out and you're doing all this media and there's so much interest around you. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So, yeah, I think it's a good thing. And, yeah, I'm very happy where I'm at now. Yes, you sound really, really positive and upbeat. I know a lot of people, this kind of stuff, it starts to kind of pile on them,

and they start to feel a bit of pressure from that. You weren't feeling that way? This is all good energy for you. Yeah, absolutely, because I feel like, you know, there's always a lot of pressure surrounding every fight because in the end of the day, it's all about winning, and I feel like the things around me doesn't affect me that much because, you know, still all the focus is on the fight,

so I feel like doing it. other kind of stuff is more like a brick. You're constantly thinking about the fight anyway, so. Yes, yes. And what is it like? What is the mood like in Scandinavia around the Nordic regions? Do you feel like people are very excited about this one? There's so many guys on this card from around those regions.

I feel like a lot of people will be very, very pumped for it. Yeah, I think so. It's always hard to get the feel out of it, before a fight, but it feels like the interest is there, so it's going to be interesting to see how the vibes are in Copenhagen. I'm traveling there

tomorrow, so yeah, it's going to be awesome to see how the fight week will be. You were very honest with us the last time you were on, and you spoke about Jared Canineer, about when that fight was announced. People were saying to you, you know, why are you doing

this? You're risking everything here. Have you made peace with that? as the fights got came closer you've just put that to the back of your mind yeah it doesn't be like even if even if i could be happier with another fight it doesn't bother me it doesn't take anything out of my preparations or focus so you know i believe that uh almost all of the fight is equally hard so it's not about how tough the fight are is more about what i what i have to gain and the fight is still a tough fight, and that keeps me sharp.

So I'm all cool with the fight, and it's going to happen. So I'm super focused, and then, of course, I'm looking forward to see what the next step is, but I have to focus on the fight I have now. Yeah, and I mean, I think a lot of people, people who didn't know a lot about you would have thought you was more of a grappler

before that last fight, but then you put on this absolute boxing clinic against Jackaray. This matchup is really intriguing to me. Like, I mean, what way do you see it playing out with Jared? It's hard to say, you know. Usually, if I get a guy to the ground, it's pretty dominant. And should it happen, then I see it going to my way pretty quickly. On defeat, it's probably going to be pretty competitive.

but different kind of styles. I see myself as the better striker, but I see Canonier, he has great power. So he's going to be challenging for sure. And he looks hard to take down as well. And even though he's very physical, he has good stamina. So he's a great fighter. So I think it's going to be a cool fight. And we'll probably see a little bit of all-round action.

Yes, yes, I'm even more excited about after it after hearing you speaking about it, to be honest. It's interesting to me to see that Jacaree has moved up to Lloyd Heavyweight. Were you surprised to see that? It's kind of a trend now, isn't it? I'm not getting surprised anymore. We have like five middleways or something like the right now. And it was a gap there to feel. so I was very surprised

but on the other hand I'm not sure it's going to be a tough matcher for him you know Jan Blahwich it's a really really tough big strong light heavy weight and I'll be very very impressed

if Jack Rear managed to meet that fight yes and of course Jan already has experience with putting out a middle weight who was moving up with Luke Rockhold right yeah exactly that was the short affair. Yes. He is definitely on the up at the moment.

But we spoke about, you know, everything was so up in the air, Jack, when this fight was announced. You knew that Romero and Costa would play a big part and who would be determining the next guy who fights for the title. You know, because Costa came away with the win that day, do you believe that he will most likely be the next person to fight the winner of Whitaker and Adasagna? Most likely. most likely but you know um yeah i'm gonna do a i'm gonna try to make a dominant performance this time and hopefully i can get get some good hype with me and i'm open for a what you call it like spectacular yeah i i'm happy to fight costa for uh no like a title title eliminate

Who will get, yeah, it's an elimination fight. Yes, yes. Yeah, that would be cool. But on the other hand, I think it's great for the UFC, if they have a couple of guys that can come up and be interesting title fights. So it might not be the smartest move to make us fight each other before the title either, because then we have an interesting matchup to look forward to if he or Iowa, win the title. So we'll see. But Costa is definitely one that I think they will put in the next

title fight. It's interesting, right? Because he, you know, his stamina seems to go still. He only fought three rounds the last time and he seemed to be very tired. And of course, Yol Romero's a beast. I'm not trying to criticize in that respect. But, you know, in a five-round fight, do you think that would kind of hurt him against a guy like you, Whittaker or Atassania, who can keep a solid pace on an opponent over five rounds. Yeah, it's kind of be interesting to see how he spends his energy, because in this kind of fight he goes 100% out of the belt, like in the Romero fight, it was a crazy first minute there, so.

And if you have a five-round fight, that might not be the plan that he will execute. So, yeah, I think he's going to be able to fight five rounds, but then he will have to lower his pace and a little bit more. But it's going to be interesting to see if he can handle that. Yes, yes. So time will tell. You know, you said to me before that you feel as though the person who wins the Whittaker and Adasanya fight, that is the person that you will fight for the title.

And even if Romero, I mean, sorry, even if Colin, that does fight the winner of that fight before you, do you still believe it will be either Whitaker or Adesania who holds the belt when you eventually goes to the challenge for the title? Yeah, because I believe that Wittaker is gonna win there so and if that happens I believe that he will continue to be champ but it's gonna be interesting if Adesania wins to see him against Costa I think that's gonna be a very competitive fight and I think it's a big,

big chance that Costa is going to be able to push through Adesania. So, yeah, I see Costa is probably having a bigger chance to win over Adesania

than we think that's what I see. Just two more things, Jack, and thank you so much for your time. Yeah, of course. I was a bit weird. Like, I mean, I was a bit surprised by Darren Till suddenly showing up at middleweight

and jumping into that gas I know that was a fight that you had your eyes on for a long time against Gastilum. Was that a weird one for you? A guy like who was just coming up to middleweight is now fighting one of the best fighters at middleweight and a guy like you who has been looking for one of these top tier opponents for a long time. Is that frustrating to see? It's alright. There was an opportunity for him there and I understand that you know he's a big name as well but on the other hand I feel like Darren is putting himself in a very tough position because he has been having a hard time and now he's moving up in 08 class and fighting all of the biggest things.

So should he lose his fight it's a big chance that he won't be that relative anymore. So yeah, we'll see. I'm right with that. You know, I know how this game works, and big names will get bigger opportunities. So I guess that's what we see. Is it, do you feel as though, like in your mind the way you're speaking, you agree with me and a lot of other media guys who are saying, this is too much too soon.

There was other fights you could have put this guy in instead of gasoline. Definitely. Definitely. At least one guy out of the top 10, right? Jorya Hall, maybe, someone like a striker who is going to fight inside Darren's wheelhouse. You know, it's just Gasselm seems crazy. Yeah, yeah, I feel that as well. And, yeah, Till has this, also style-wise. I feel like, you know, Till is going with his hand wide and open in the middle.

And Gasselam has the best one-two in the game. So it's going to be interesting. But, yeah, I guess then we'll see pretty quickly if Darren has something to do in this workplace. Yes, yes. And just a final question. Jack, you know, when I think about this fight, and I know, you know, you might have wanted a different opponent, but we have kind of near here. But when I think about this fight, I think about you being in Copenhagen in front of these people. I saw how much the people had begun to

begin to adore you when we were in Sweden that time, and we saw you at the press conference and you got this huge ovation. And I'm wondering if you think the same way as me as, if you go in here and do what you plan to do, put on a spectacular performance, Do you believe you become the frontrunner in Scandinavia now? And this is with the greatest respect to Alexander Gustafsson, a legend of the sport. But with you right up there at the top of this middleweight division, that seems to be so exciting at the moment, do you think that will push you into the spotlight as the main fighter,

the frontrunner of MMA in Scandinavia? Absolutely. I really believe that. And as you mentioned, Alex is stepped off the throne. And, you know, we need a new king here and I'm ready to take that spot for sure. Amazing, Jack. Thank you so much, my friend. I can't wait to see this fight on Saturday.

Thank you. Thank you, my friend. All the best, sir. And enjoy the rest of your media today. Thank you so much. Speak you soon. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. Okay, bye-bye.

Well, that was great to hear from Jack Harmanson. Really good to get us taken that whole middleweight toil picture. it's a exciting few weeks for this middleweight division man it is definitely and i think as well it's going to be very interesting when darn till and gossum throw down and we'll be sweet man in a few weeks but like i still fucking bemused by that fight why darn wanted that one yeah like i know he looks big and all and nick pete was telling me like you know he looks huge like and he does he does like darn absolutely looks huge and um the way nick sees it like he was saying to go in against gastlam he thinks it's pressure off to a certain extent for darren because gossum such a big

name, but when you're on a two fights, get it, I can't overlook. That's what I don't understand. That's what I don't understand. I think the UFC, like, you know, daintically easily of turning in that fight. Like, you... You just wonder, do the UFC believe in Darren Till anymore? I think he might believe in him too much. You know what I mean? Maybe so,

yeah, maybe so, maybe so. Like, Darren does of that quality, though. You, like, when you speak to him, he is that kind of guy where... That's what I say about, lots of comparisons were made between him and McGregor, but the most notable thing was at the higher of their critic. It could make people believe in them. And that's, like, word of white and gold. That's worth everything.

But let's get on to... Sorry, I took you out of different times. No, no, it's cool. Let's get on to Mexico City. It was a very eventful. A bit of a letdown in the all-main event, especially when you're staying up until 4 a.m. to fucking watch. UFC sponsors were loving it. Modelo

flying all over the place. Absolute scenes. An eye poke, a pretty blatant eye poke. 15 seconds in, stops the bout. Jeremy Stevens is trying. You can see Herb Dean is even trying, making up new rules to try making up new protocol just to see

if this could happen. He can't fight on. Jeremy Stevens, one of the toughest guys in MMA, one of the most battle-ready, battle-hardened guys in the game. If he can't continue his eyes and bits. That's what I want to start on, to be honest. I was pretty angry about that man because there was a lot of people giving him shit saying he was faking. Absolute bollocks, man.

They must have never watched Jeremy Stevens fight in their life. That's a guy who will throw down against anyone. Complete caution the win. Forty-five fucking professional fights, whatever he's, I think he's second most appearances after Cowboy. You could see the eye, it got flicked, that could have spasmed, there could have been an eyeball issue, anything.

It looked pretty... It didn't look the worst in the world, but the fact he flicked down his eye, he could have pushed his eye back, whatever, he could have spasmed. The guy clearly couldn't open his eye for five minutes. It was in a bad, bad way. Herb Dean as well, I think, well done to Herb Dean. He's got a lot of shit, man, over

the last number of months. He handled that situation very, very well. Tried his best. Didn't happen. as Hulani pointed out like Stevens moved to Mexico for six weeks away from his family and shit like you don't do that if you're going I'm just going to jump in for 15 if you're talking to the other and giving it up

come on man it's unbelievable and I'll say a few words about Yari Rodriguez as well I don't think he covered himself before he's very petulant I can understand the emotions the frustrations but you know jumping on the top of the cage sort of inciting the crowd as well and you know you celebrate this like a win yeah and then you see you see you know

the commentators obviously Bisping Beisping. Treat it besting with a huge amount of difference. I was very, very irritated seeing that. It's one of the all times great. And I think he turned around and was translated. He said, you know, don't touch me, you, whatever.

That wasn't accurate. I'm not sure if it was accurate or whatever I saw, but it was just very petulant. And then, obviously you saw Brenna Fitzpatrick underneath the table as well in the commentary position when things are being hurled. Yeah, I mean, the fans, the fans were disgrace. Yeah. Even Asparza talking about it, Asparza gets this win. They obviously were for Grasso. Grasso did very well in that fight.

There's no doubt about that. was a close decision. I thought it was grass away. She said as she was walking out to the cage, someone just poured a beer all over. Yeah, and Colin Oyama was her coach, was very, very upset about it. He said he would have got the guy

and literally giving him a clock. Very disrespectful. And then, you know, we saw Jeremy Stevens got absolutely bloody... People say he was punching him in the back of the head. Is that true? I don't know. I didn't see that.

I saw a tweet that says they were throwing things at him and trying to punch him in the back of the head. Yeah, well, I wouldn't be surprised because you see him coming out and there was like literally there was beer coming in left and right. There was glass bottles as well.

Bisp being said in the commentary. Crazy stuff and just no place for mixed marg. And if that was in Dublin, you know, as Irish mixed margar, we'd be very, very embarrassed. I was embarrassed about the Diallo thing. Yeah, of course, of course. Didn't try to do a Miss Oil luncheon.

Yeah, and then obviously, you know, Brennan Lachnan and some, but they actually weren't Irish guys. We were there, Kage side, but, you know, you don't want to see those scenes in your city. Yeah, Sean Sheehan. That was funny, though. You always tries to get with it.

But it was, you know, there's no place for that guy in the sport and, you know, very, very disappointing. Sour tastes, sour. Look, I was sick about it too. I was sick that this brilliant fight was called love after 15 minutes. But I just don't understand that reaction by the crowd. And I don't understand Yars' reaction. Yeah, I don't know. Why are you celebrating, man?

I was baffled by it. But he's inciting the crowd as well and he's putting other people in danger. That's what I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know why. You can understand the emotions to a certain extent. It was weird. but, you know, I didn't like to contempt he held for Michael Bisping either. I thought was petulant.

And, you know, maybe the UFC should have a little word with him in his ear about that sort of behaviour. Do you know what I know is about the Bisping thing? Yarr's on a mad one. Bisping doesn't even flinch. He's just looking at him. Listen to me. Relax yourself. He is, isn't he?

He doesn't flinch for a second. He's like, yeah. Do you see him when they're trying the bottles and stuff and Brenner Fitzwater one? He goes, he goes, yeah, he gets his phone and he goes, I'm not hiding for anyone. Brenner. A lot of lead. You gotta love baseball man. Oh, man, that's hilarious.

We're not gonna go through the whole card, but we already talked about the main, that epic 15 seconds, and the co-main, very close affair that Carla Aspires, it comes away with the winning. Ascar Oskaroff, as we said, had a big debut against Brandon Moreno, and it was a brilliant fight, man.

Moreno is a savage. How did you score? Oh, he thought Moreno was going to win it? So did I. No problem. You know, Ascaro, four tight towns or five or whatever it was? Oh, he was amazing. His grappling was insane.

I'm not saying he didn't fight well. He fought brilliantly. And as we said the week before, going in against Moreno on your first fight, it's a tough, tough, man. And it was just for me,

Marino did more damage. Every exchange, he looked like he was doing more damage. Even if the exchange, maybe he was standing for only a minute of a four minute round and being grappled, out grappled for four minutes,

when that was going for the minute, he always seemed like he had just about hurt them or caused a big reaction from Ascaroff. I think he did very well to come away with a draw. I think he'll be very happy with that draw. I'd say so after looking to fight. You know, sometimes... But he was really good.

Like, I thought he was... His grappling was out of this world, you know? Yeah. And, you know, I go back to the Grasso fighting and Asperza. And I think what a lot of people, when they're watching the fight is, they don't look at the time clock. Yeah.

You know, I think that was a big problem in that fight. I did have it for Grasso, and I saw a lot of the MMA media had it for Asparza. But if you're looking at the clock in terms of what's done, like, Asparza did very, very little in that second round when she took her down. And...

It's always... weird because the three or four minutes quite a different ways, you know? Yeah, it's mad, like, and I just think that's maybe an area. People should look at is the time of the clock sometimes when you're. If you're re-watching a fight, if you're trying to look at a score, like three or four minutes.

Judging is just way better than ever was, you know? Like, I mean, when you look back on the old days, if they score a take down at any point in the round, they'd be like, oh yeah, he's won that round. Yeah, yeah. That's it, like, and I think maybe that was sort of some of the perception of that fight because I watched it back twice there today, and I definitely gave it to Alexerraso.

Right, right. Well, moving back to the European guys. No, no, no. I've got a fucking rats here. Sorry, we'll go, Irene Aldana, got a decision win. Stephen Peterson would a disgraceful spinning back. Unbelievable. Jesus Christ.

Quinonez gets a decision win over Carlos Huchin. Kyle Nelson stops Paulo Reyes. Angela Hill with a lovely, was that stuff because of a cut, wasn't it? That fight, I think so. Sergio Pettison and Toys and Ann, that was a great, great. great flyway fight. Paul Craig, man, that is exactly what the doctor

are there. Big time, man. Back to parody. It's so funny at Lowe Heavyweight the way one win can change everything. Because now he's back to four and far into UFC. It doesn't seem like he's in danger. But if he lose the next one, you know, we're going to be like, oh. We're talking about it again with Paul Craig. He did a really well, man. You never know what you're going to sort of get from. But yeah, no, fair play to him, you know, under a lot of pressure. It's taken down submits the dude. Really good, I thought. Really, really good. Betch Cohaya. Bech.

My God, Sahara Eubanks and Bech. And we got the Bech dance then afterwards in victory. Amazing stuff. Claudio Puelles started off the action win over Marcus Mariano. But yeah, I think, like, look, there was a lot of great stuff there. As I said, I love the Ascaroff and Rayno fight.

But it's unfortunate that whenever we talk about this card, it's going to come back to one thing, isn't it? Yeah, and I think, you know, in terms of, if you're a Mexican fan, the UFC are going to have to seriously, you consider fighter safety and doing events there again in the future. So I'm not so sure where it puts Mexico City for a few years. Maybe they might just sit back because they were the worst scenes I've seen in a long time

at a mixed martial arts event. I know Danny Sigur is from Columbia, but he did interview a local journalist for the post-fight show and the journalist was very good. He was hands up. He's like, come on, this isn't what we need to do. Oh, no, yeah. Like all the people involved in MMA in that country certainly wouldn't be accountable for that kind of behavior.

totally understand. It's, you know, it is. It's a minority. Obviously, I'm sure the hardcore MMA fans were very well behaved, but it's just disgusting to see it,

mate. Yeah. So you think that they will be reluctant to go back? Yeah. But you have to put your, you know, your,

oh no, I agree with your. Your fighters, you know, they can't be gone into hostile territory that turns into nearly a fucking riot.

Yeah. So, yeah, like, who will, will anyone really want to fight there after looking at those scenes? I know a lot of fighters were tweeting,

won't mind. I know, I know an awful lot of other fighters were tweeting about I'd never want to fight in Mexico and stuff like that after. So I'm not sure in the situation

what the UFC are going to do, but in terms of what I think they should do is definitely pull back in Mexico for a couple of years. But they won't because they know where the money is. Right. Well, we'll get on with our second interview today and then we'll have to break down

both UFC Copenhagen and Bellator Dublin or Bellator 2-27 or whatever you want to call it. Hey, just because you're going away, me. Too much on. But listen, we're back. in about 15.

Great to have Jack still the reigning Eurobash champion and still. So great to hear you talk to him. We'll talk to you soon. And he is back, the former Cage Warriors champion and the reigning Eurobash guest appearances champion. Mr. Jack Shaw, who is about to make his UFC debut. It's been a long, long time coming. And Jack, how are you feeling, mate? How is it ahead of this fight?

Yeah, the people's calls feeling good, mate. Yeah, I'm all good. training's gone really well. I've been a great camp, so I'm just looking forward out of getting out there and getting things underway officially. Yeah, I saw,

I've been watching all your media and reading all the interviews you've been doing since this announcement we've been made. And I love the way you're kind of, you're kind of saying, look, I'm not putting pressure on myself to go in there

and then call out the champion immediately. I'm going to take my time here to get used to this, to get used to this big stage. Is that very much the top process? going into this point for you? Yeah, obviously, I was with Cage Warriors for three years.

You know, I had 10 fights, I think it was with Cage Warriors. So I was used to the process and I was used to how everything worked, used to the people in the division, you know, potentially I'm up who I've got a fight. Whereas now, you know, I'm sort of a small fish in a big pond, as they say. You know, I've moved on now.

There's probably 50 guys in the division, so there's no pressure for me. I've gone from fight the main event to be probably first or second on on the card. So, you know, there's not as many media duties. There's not the pressure of selling tickets. It's just like the olden days,

you know, back when I fought amateur, you turn up, you fight and you get a job done nice and early. So I'm looking for it, and like I said, working my way up rather than, you know, jumping in the deep end and calling for this, there and everything, that's not realistic. Is that a nice feeling in a way? Because I can imagine

like, before, oh, was that one of your fights in Cardiff, it was crazy? You know, everybody wants a piece of year, everybody's like onto you about tickets everything you know what I mean is it kind of nice to just be able to go okay I don't have to worry about you know being the main guy in this card

selling this card being at the forefront of all the marketing is it nice in a way or is it a kind of a weird shift for you no it is nice I've been you know I've enjoyed having a camp where you know not that none of that stuff ever bothered me as such but you know this camp all I've got to do

is focus on training and the fight you know I have not to worry about the the promo. I'm not to worry about selling tickets to people. And, you know, as well as that, you know, I'm going to be fighting early, you know, late afternoon compared the OF's usually on 11, 11.30 at night. So, like I said, it reminds me of when I was, you know,

back as an amateur fighting, fighting on cards where, you know, you'd have your amateur card and then your pro card to finish when I, and I was on sort of five six o'clock in the afternoon. It's been, it's been nice to switch your back to there and just focus on the task at hand rather than all the other, you know, outlaying factors.

Yes, yes, of course. And I noticed a post there from your dad the other day, of course, one of the most respected guys really in UKMMA. And he was speaking about the lack of coverage you and John, you and John Phillips has had ahead of this. Now, I always know, like, I mean, you get brilliant coverage usually. It's all over the papers, everything. I mean, is this just, what do you think that's about? Is it with the World Cup going on at the moment? Or why do you think that is that that's happened?

I just I think maybe because I mean the way I look at it is there's not a lot in there although it's a big stage for me and John I feel like they just feel because they're a little bit uneducate you know it's not in Cardiff so it's not going to bring no sort of sort of business to the town and to the country

so maybe they look at it like that but it's their loss you know because in years they come you know if I climb the ranks and you know get my name out there they'll all want a piece then and then I'll be telling them you know what good is it now you know like I said why would why would I give people a time of day you know who don't want to know now now I'm fighting on the undercard then when I get my name out there they'll all want to jump on so yeah it's great it doesn't really make sense to me like I mean I just I was like this is so weird like

I mean this is the biggest fight of this guy's life I know you were the champion of cage worries but this is the biggest stage in the world it seems like such a bad time to decide to and not talk to you ahead of this one, you know? Yeah, it's one of them was it. It works my old man up more than me. I'm laid back and chilled out, but I can see why you're so annoyed because, you know, the amount of shit they cover, you know, on these sport websites for BBC and ITV Wales. You think they would give a bit of time to me and John, you know,

two guys from a small country in the UK who are fighting, obviously, on the world's biggest promotion, you think that would appeal to them. And, you know, there's a couple of good guys that work for them that I know that do their best to get our names out there. But sometimes I think they're fighting a losing battle. They obviously haven't gone to pull in the same that the top bosses have. Right, right. But as we said, I am fully aware that this is a huge deal.

So you're going to have to keep on talking to me, Jack, unfortunately. No problem. But, you know, I often think about you guys coming in from Cage Warriors. Like, it's no secret that guys who come from Cage Warriors that go to the UFC, they have a certain level of being battle tested. They have been on the big stage. As we've talked about already, you've supported massive marquise in Cardiff,

like with your name written all over them. Like how well prepared are you for this? And of course, we've talked about it before that you've walked out with Marshman, you've been in his corner. Like, do you feel as perfectly poised for this debut as a man can be who hasn't fought in the UFC, basically?

Yeah, like I said, without a shadow doubt, I couldn't be any more prepared if I tried. Obviously, fighting the big names and on the big stage and having all the likes on me at Cage Warriors, that's obviously prepared me to move on to the big stage now with the UFC. But like you said as well, I've had that experience of being around Fight Week

and cornered marshments or, you know, I've got half an idea of, I don't mean, I imagine every show is a little bit different, but I've got a rough idea of what goes on, fight week, what I'm going to need to do, what it entails. So physically, mentally mental, you know, I'm prepared and I'm just looking forward to enjoying it. It's something I've worked my

old life for, you know, since I was six years of age. So now it's less than a week away. It's great for me to just think, right, well, here we go. This is what we've worked for. I'll just go out and enjoy it. Is there any part of you? Like, I mean, do you have any kind of nerves, like good nervous energy ahead of it? Like, I mean, what are your emotions when you think about walking into the Arctic? As you said, you've geared your whole life towards this. I mean, there must be some kind of anticipation, whether it's good or bad. I mean, like is there any kind of jitters? I know some,

some fighters tell me that if they don't feel slightly nervous, they get a bit worried. So I was just wondering how you feel about it. It's just, it's more, it's like a nervous excitement rather than a,

you know, like a pressure or nervous of a thought of being scared or worried. And I'm the same before every fight. Obviously, this one's a little bit more exciting to me because I'm, it's a new experience with,

you know, with K-drawers is as great as it was to fight for them. But for the time I got on my last couple of fights, I knew how the, you know, I knew how the, always sort of worked where's this one

it's just our excitement of walking out to our big crowd and even just I was late day last night in bed and I was thinking myself it's nuts to me

to think I've watched the UFC all my life you know I've always watched I've been there live a couple of times and on Saturday I'm going to be in the cage actually be in the UFC

club with a set the UFC gloves on and going to have a fight for the company so it's just excitement and something I'm looking for no doubt I'll have the butterflies

on the night before I make the world walk but that's part of passing it i think wherever you fight wherever you fight so it's just something i'm really looking forward to more you know more than uh anticipation in a bad way amazing amazing hearing you talk about that just sitting in your bed going jesus this is going to happen in a few days that's crazy but you know it's all it's all fun in games when it's 12 weeks away you don't really take away too much when you let the new think well less in a week we're gonna go for it then then it starts to kick in then but it was

you know, it was a, it was a good bit of excitement, nor, it wasn't nerve wracking then. You know, what do you know about your opponent, Hernandez here? Like, I saw, I believe it was his debut against Marilyn Vera. Like, he's a good goer. He certainly likes to exchange and stuff like that. I mean, what kind of fight are you expecting from him, Jack? Yeah, he's very good. He trains at a good gym. He looked good in his debut, despite picking up the loss, you know, when he considered it was short notice. Yes, absolutely.

He looked good and he had spells where he worked good. you know the fight was going his way so i'm expecting obviously a tough fight i think you know he's not gonna i don't think he's gonna come out cautious he's gonna come out to fight me you know he knows the style i bring and i think he knows the the more cautious he is the more that i'll play into my hands but i'm ready for everything you know i got a good team around me i've had some some top class sparring for this fight um so whatever he brings i'll be ready for and i'm i'm prepared to take him out in the first round or or grind him away for three rounds and pick away at them that way but I'm just prepared to get a win however it comes.

Of course your father would have coached people in the USC before, but this one must be extra special for Richard, I mean it must, it must mean a lot to him. Does he have to pretend that it doesn't when he's around you just so he can, he won't get into your head or anything? But it must mean an awful lot to him. Yeah, he's pretty good at keeping it underwraps, especially in fight camp. I mean, on the night of the fight, I can see he's nervous and stuff like that, but obviously that has to be expected.

You know, it's not just a coach in a fight that I'd not. on suppose. Oh, he's got to switch it off on the fight start. I am still his son. So I can imagine he does feel, it probably feels the nerves worse than I do. People who've been in the changing room before I fought in the past, I'll tell you the same thing.

You know, I look like I'm going for a walk in the park, and then he looks like he's about to go to battle. So he'll be feeling the nerves on the night. But, you know, it's the same as every time. As soon as I step in the cage and the ball rings to start the fight, he's switched on there, and he's not a dad no more. He's coach there. I know he's speaking like a coach, and he's thinking like a coach.

So he'll be. He's more nervous than me, I bet, but, you know, he's been around the block. He'll be prepared for it, I'm sure, and he'll cope with it. Absolutely. Just one final one, Jack. I was just wondering if you saw the Bantamway tournament to decide the successor to your Bantamway throne. Did you watch? And are you impressed with Jack Cartwright?

Another Jack of course now holding the Bantam White title? Yeah, I was actually up there doing some presenting for K-Dwaries. They had me come up for the day. But, yeah, he looked great, Jack Cartwright. He, you know, was a real underdog. Yeah, came out of nowhere, yeah. Yeah, yeah, like, you know, five and no, no one really really giving much of a shot.

And, you know, to pick up two big knock at wins like that in the same night and then take him on the belt, he's got a wheel at his feet now. And I'm sure, you know, and it's well-deserved. I'm sure Cage Warriors will market him well now and plow a lot of promotion. I mean, it's deserved after a performance like that, you know, four top guys in the tournament.

So whoever took the belt on that night was going to be a worthy champion. And, you know, credit to him. It was a great night for him. well jack you're as cool as a cucumber i swear like it's amazing to me that you're making this huge huge walk in a week something you've geared your whole life towards and you sound so cool man you do as you just said look a walk in the park it's amazing and just just wondering who do you have for this rugby world cup noel mcgrel be upset with me if i don't ask you so who do you have winning

i'm obviously the local boys where i feel like when i'm not i'm not a massive rugby fan but i watched i watched the game this morning i know they only playing jokes if I remember, you know a lot of good. But they did look good. So fingers crossed, they can pull it out and bring it home and it'll be a good end of the summer for Welsh sport. If me and John can pick up wins in the US, and then the boys can bring all the World Cup, that would be great.

Absolutely. I'm like you. I don't know anything about Ruby, but I'll pledge my allegiance. If Ireland go out, I'll pledge my allegiance to Wales because you're a great bunch of lads. And look, have a great time over there, Jack, and I can't wait to speak to you again, mate. All the best. top man cheers pete see you yeah jack boy bye bye and great to hear from tank once again

big big moment for him this weekend interesting to hear though that he's saying like I mean he used to get so much national media there in Wales and just because he's not the main event even though it's the biggest fight of his life they haven't he was basically saying like they haven't given him much coverage at all that's crazy

yeah I noticed that he was saying like they kind of see if it's not in Wales it's not important yeah it was interesting I saw John Gordon was tweeting about that the lack of coverage to these guys. So Richard, you rarely hear Richard giving out about something. Like, I'm not giving out, but just saying,

like, Jesus, where's the publication's gone? You know what I mean? Like, a chorus, if you're Jack Shore, you want to show them how much interest you bring to a bout into a fight. And he definitely has that interest. Like, I mean, in Wales, the fans are going mad for this.

And, but just the media doesn't really represent. Well, that's the whole problem in Ireland as well. And we've experienced that first hand. It's very annoying, man. It's very frustrating. It's probably very annoying for the guys who are covering it in Wales that are trying to get it into the papers.

and it's just not happening. But the mad thing is always like the numbers are there. That's the really frustrating thing from my point of view and then you just don't get the backing from the outlets. It's very tough.

It's very frustrating. As we've seen. But yeah, it's just the way it is and it is. It's sad and I think, you know, I could be here all day talking about the media in certain countries but listen, we'll move on.

Roy, well, we may as well start with the Bellator Dublin card on Friday because it's obviously on Friday and Copenhagen's on Saturday. That's what makes more sense. But can you please explain to me the broadcast situation here? It's a fucking mess.

Not all that. I'm joking, I'm joking. Yeah, it's pretty much all over the place. The prelims as normal, Irish time, 4.45pm, Irish IST. So that's what 1145 in the US, Eastern Time. And then you have the Bellator 227

Bellator Dublin portion which kicks off live on Virgin Media here in Ireland at 10pm local time and Channel 5 local time so that's obviously Ryan Skow Quilly Venompage against Kylie Galaher against Salazar and then you have

the Bellator 227 portion which is going to air after the Bellator Dublin portion and that's going to kick off at 2am IST on Sky Sports main event and Paramount network at 9pm Eastern time for the guys in the US.

So it's... Can I just ask? So, but if we're in the building live, we'll see the prelims first, then Bellator 227, that's going to be broadcast later on in the night, and then Belator Dublin with James being at the top of the car. That's the way it's listed, yeah.

You'd imagine so, because 227, they needed to get that ready for the American audience and the editter on, so that will go off before it, and then James will finish the night. Right, right. Okay. And it makes sense for them to do that as well, because, you know, a lot of people I presume,

I'm not sure how many people will hang around for Benson Henderson and Miles Jury if that was main events. I'm not joking. It's just to, yeah, but the regional interest is the main thing with these cards. Like I mean... Definitely. But it is. It's a mess again and a lot of people complain about it online

and you can't really blame them because it's all over the shop if you're a viewer or not at that card again. It's just making life very difficult for people to sort of go and find these fight cards and as well. Like Virgin Media isn't it's not the easiest channel to access

if you've sky or stuff like that it's just a nightmare again and like I wonder how serious battles were taking this market I've said it before I don't know well they're putting on a lot of events so I imagine pretty seriously but it's just the organisation of it sometimes

it's just but let's look at the fights here we've talked about the main event we've talked about we've talked about the main event basically that's it but what's interesting is like they've amplified James understandably they've amplified Venom Page coming

to Ireland and Coiley's done a great job of getting his name out there. Scope and Qualey is an unbelievable fight and I haven't heard a whisper about it and it's not the only one that's flying under the radar even Henderson and Jury like you don't hear Irish man's talking about that fight and you're like what's the... You know, that's why

we were saying we wanted Irish guys v. International and in fairness of the Bellard they did Troy to do at this time. It just didn't come off but it's just with Miles Jury and Benson I think sorry for interrupting you can't hangar with me No no, I'm clear me trod around. Fuck so. But I think

They're two guys that, you know, they're not really the most exciting guys in the mic, promotable guys. And not even really, like, it's very high-level MMA, but it's not spectacular MMA. Yeah. Like, Jury's had a few moments. It's always Benson, but they can grind out a decision. It's very high-level. The mistakes are at a minimum rather than these crazy stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I understand that, but I think maybe they could have put a little bit more work into that because you haven't really heard. I know they're not the most best guys in the mic, as I said there, but, listen, could probably do on a little bit more, but sure. Yeah. Also, I think Malambo v. Wooding is an unbelievable fight. I know everybody, like, in MMA is talking about that fight, but they really haven't pushed that, I don't feel. Haven't pushed that, haven't pushed Philip Mnterterer, as we talked about off there a few minutes ago against McCabe.

McAid. Peter was one of the guys in that initial kind of run. You know, with SPG, he was one of the frontruners, one of the guys we expected to end up in the UFC, and he was knocking on the door of that just a while ago when he fought Dalby that time, you know what I mean? But it's just his excitement, the way he fights, you know, he's balls to the wall, relentless, he's serious heart.

He's sort of a legend in Irish MMA circles. Like, you know, remember we talked about it, Rich Gawry fight and all those scraps back in the day at Battlezone and shit like that. Unbelievable scrapper. And another one I'm just looking at here, Lee Chadwick and Carl Moore, I love that scrap, man. It's incredible and it's buried on the prelims as well. Like, that's two former Cage Warriors champions. I think those two fights especially should have potentially, I know they're obviously

on our restrictions with time and things like that, but, there are two fights that could definitely, you know, feature on 2-27 or the Dublin portion of this card. Yeah, it's heavy with the marketability. Like, I mean, Bellator always is. And look, Kiefer and Leah are very marketable. There's absolutely no doubt about that. It's unfortunate for Kiefer that his initial fight did fall out, and he's got to show him out his replacement. We can understand them putting him in a prominent place there because he does seem to reverberate with the fan base quite a bit.

Leah McCourt is making a big name for herself. But, you know, it's... It's just interesting. Blaine O'Driscoll and Jake Hadley there on the under Undercar, two world champions. You know, two guys who have belts under big European promotion. Sorry, Jake is actually EFC champion in South Africa. It's just... Yeah, it's just...

It is tough. You know, you can't have... It is very hard to have... You can't have... ...have everyone, but there's definitely two there. The two I've mentioned, I think, could have easy. Yeah. Like, they're really...

Oh, more than Chadwick is ridiculous. Yeah, that's like a bloody schlobernocker. Someone's going down on that one and ain't getting up for a couple of minutes. But, well, Peter McCabe as well, just... just exciting matchup. We know what Keith brings to the Octagon and you know

we know what Phil brings I love that scrap. A lot of talk about Will Flurrie's fight. Now you might look at this guy's record Norbert, Navignia. Navini?

Navi? I don't know how to pronounce it. Obviously. He's 3 and O but he is a hugely touted prospect coming out of London shoot I believe

and Will used to train there. I wonder if he knows him. That's right, yeah. Will was there for a couple of years I think when he was living in the UK. Yeah, yeah.

that would be an interesting one. I haven't heard anything, whether he knew him or not, but it's an interesting dynamic. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Kylie's done a great job, hasn't he? I mean, everybody was saying,

like, oh, this is ridiculous and all, but he sold it and he's continued to sell it, but I mean, is that the most difficult task of the night for the ears, do you believe, to overcome Michael Venom Page? Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, I don't think there's a single doubt in my mind

that's the hardest one. No doubt. But listen, you know, anything can happen amidst martial arts and you know Kylie is a decorated guy in his kickboxing realms no matter what way

you want to look at it as well but the central one is on page yeah obviously obviously obviously and big big step up for Richard and listen you'd never know

it's going to be very interesting to see Venom Page as well very confident but the interesting thing I think was when we were speaking a couple of months ago you're telling me Michael Venom Page wasn't irritated he was exceptionally

he pissed off. I don't think he knew it was going to come at him that quickly. Richard has a way of really pissing people off. He does. He's a great way of pissing people off. And he definitely did that in Dublin. They had to remove him from a room and do the interviews in a separate room, which I thought was very interesting. I think that was more Bellator, not wanting Nell Flion kicks to pop off. Yeah, well, like, that's what I mean. It wasn't too far away from that happening. So, you know, when you're underneath someone's game like that, I can take your mind off the game. Watch that one. But yeah, sensible. he's definitely on a MVP 100%. Yeah, it's a big card.

I mean, when you think about like the last time they got the sell out, we didn't expect them to... There's still ticks available, I think, but hopefully people get open. I heard, like, people have been tapping people up for tickets already. Like, and I see people on my Facebook timeline.

Well, hopefully they are. I'd love to see it sold out, yeah. I think it's, you know, like last time we didn't know of us sold out or not because the TIFT, the Foyder still had a certain amount of tickets. I think we're at that stage now where if you know Foyter,

that's the only way you're getting a ticket. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, yeah, Leah McCart had four Cadeside tickets she put up today. They were the last tickets she had and they were bought in five minutes. Wow, that's pretty like Leah does bring a big crowd down as well. Mainstream of McCart? Yeah, I'm sure

Molly will be there with her, you know, as well. I hope she brings her dog. Love Frank. Yeah. So, no, look, listen, I'm looking forward to it. It's a really good card. You know, some really good matchups for Irish MMA on that card as well. You know, it's just a shame. We didn't see some of the names that were originally on the card like Reds or he'd be there watching on. He'd be in Keats' Corner. And Moyles, pretty, should have

got a fight there. I mean, I like Kieferi, Miles. That would have been a brilliant fight for Ireland. Yeah,

it would have been but as Miles didn't really wanted at the time, you know? Yeah, that would have been a crack and fight,

but it was a fight that would really sort of get Miles back in that sort of picture like the Peter Quilly fight as well and get a lot of hype. Everyone going into the arena

that night was looking forward to that fight the most in terms of matchup. That would have been great to see that again. But listen, that'll happen down the line, I'm sure.

Yeah, let's have a look at this the UFC Copenhagen card, obviously Hermanson and Cannoneer. Coburnhaven. Yes. Hermanson and Canonair at the top of the

card. Hermanson, I mean, he's talked about when this fight was announced. It's a huge risk because like, I mean, he has it all to lose here, really. A guy like Canaaner,

he's fresh in the division, he's making a monster of himself out there, and Hermanson just feels, and I kind of agree with him, that he can kind of solidify himself as the frontrunner of Scandinavian MMA if he wins this, in the absence of Alexander

and like Gustafson and stuff like that. The form he's been in is incredible, but Cananeer makes for a very interesting fight here, man. Yeah, no, I'm excited about it. It's no walk in the park at all. Not a walk in the part. Like, you know, I think really, obviously that David Branch knock

I put him on the map and that was the one where he got the Anderson Silva fight. And, you know, listen, people giving him shit over that. And, you know, Anderson's silver shouldn't have been in the cage that night. He did his job when in there, kicked the fucking legs off him, Anderson's knee buckled. It's intriguing because I think, From his point of view, he needs this win to take Hermanson's place. And Hermanson needs this win to solidify himself, possibly as the next guy for a title shot.

He's not far off. I think Costa's the next, obviously. Yeah. After that. But, yeah, Hermanson's right there. Marco Madsen making his debut in the Comain event, a fantastic wrestler, has been brilliant in MMA 8-0. But it's amazing. When we spoke to him a couple of weeks back, he's only been full-time in MMA for a year and a half or something.

It's crazy, yeah. When he is contracted to the Wrestling Federation in there, they don't allow you to. So he's like, I think it's six or seven months a year. You have to just wrestle. And then if you want to do something else in that five months you can and that he used to do that with MMA. UFC, take note. Yeah, unbelievable. You know what I mean?

But no, I'm very excited to see that kid as well. You know, unbelievably well decorated. What Olympic silver medalist world champion. You know, a great addition to the UFC. And it's going to be very interesting. See if he can, you know, kick it on in the big show. Gunny Nelson as well and Gilbert Burns should be fun. I'm looking forward to that one.

Yeah, Madsen of course taking on Belwardo there who's coming off a loss but yeah, as you said Nelson and Burns, two absolute grappling elites here. Like, I mean, Jesus Christ, they are unbelievable. Bourne's got off to a winning ways, I believe in his other way debut in his last one and that's a very, very good

fight. I mean, who's the ace out there? Would it be Gunner or is it's got to be Gunner in Europe, right? Gunner. You would think so. Gunner has a very hard time of getting himself substantial opponents, doesn't he? Yeah, he does. But Gilbert Burns is a guy

that guy will go... I think that's a step up from Alves. Yeah, listen, what's... No offense to Alves anymore. He's not the force he once was. You know, I think we mentioned a couple of weeks ago he's pulled out of a lot of fights, a lot of injury problems.

Gilbert Burns is an animal, man. This guy can go all day. He's an engine on him, like... He'll just go and go and go. And he was, even when he was a lightweight, like, and he was killing himself. Exactly. Killing himself to make the weight.

So I think it's fascinating, but you would expect Gunner to have the more tricks the more repertoire in the ground, highly decorated Brazilian jiu-jitsu. I think Barnes is a multiple-time world champion. Is he as well? Yeah, okay, right, okay.

I didn't realize he was that good, but it is. It's a fascinating contest, and I think it's one probably for the purest if it's like that. Listen, I would expect Gunner, especially in Scandinavia as well fighting. But it's close enough again.

It is close, and then, you know, fair play to Gunner for taking a short notice opponent as well, like didn't have to, and this is a tough one. It seems like an even tougher assignment. It does, yeah, it does, so. Props the Gunner, yeah.

Yeah. I and Q to Labba who had his run cut short there by Glover and his last fight has another horrible fight there with Kaleel Roundtree. Roundtree looks unreal now man. That time of Thailand? Yeah, unbelievable. He's kicking the shit out of people, man. Unbelievable.

Obviously lost to Johnny Walker, but the Eric Anders fight was fucking class, man. Absolutely amazing. Look like a totally different striker on the feet. He absolutely murdered him, didn't? Just murdered him, yeah. That's the way. That's the way to say it either way. Like, went in and absolutely, it was just a stance and everything's so different.

And for him to take on so much. for an older guy as well he's no spring chicken to him and I meant that in his game obviously speaks well about how much of intelligent fighter he is and I'm very excited to see this guy back in there again because I think he's another guy that could really sort of start pushing up there for a title shot if you can get

two or three behind him yeah another guy that's flying under the radar is Alianchuk there from Poland he's taking on Alvin Saint Peru look at this guy's record I mean I believe he beat Khalil Roundtree in his debut on short notice but he popped for something I believe and so it was like went to a no contest but he's saying he doesn't look like the kind of guy his body

and stuff. He doesn't look like the kind of guy It can often be deceiving, Peter. Look at you. You don't really look like the type of year. I'm a massive steroid to be, sir. But the main card,

finishing out the main card is Nicholas Dalby. It's cracker. Anyone, Nicholas Dalby and Alex Olivera, anyone that saw Nicholas's last fight will know how violent that man can be. And anyone who's ever watched a cowboy fight will know how violent that week.

This reminds me of Dalby and Till this fight to a certain degree. It's insane. Yeah, it is a really, that's like fight of the night. Like, I can probably. I'm looking at this main card now. It's actually ridiculous.

It's for a European card. It is pretty ridiculous. Top three are grey fights on Dalby. You know, and I'm interested in all the end shicks. So it's like... Dalby Oliver, that could easily be co-main events.

We've seen worse main events than that fight in Europe, if we're honest about it. So, you know, I really like it. I think it's a cracker, fighting the night written all over. John Phillips in against Amadovsky.

on the prelims there, De Chirico against Macmud Muradof. C.R. Bacruzada is against the Austrian Wonderboy. See, R in a while. Yeah,

that's a tough fight for the Austrian Wonderboy. Even though he looked very good, it's just his last fight, a few question marks after that. I can't remember who it was he was fighting, but just didn't come off from him on the night like it did in his debut.

His debut was sensational. Who was the, Chase Ron Cantor? Right, yeah, he's a tricky guy on himself. Brandon Davis v. Chikazza. How do you say that? Macy... How does you say your second name?

Choyison? Macy Chasen. Chasen, sorry. Against Leonsburg, Lansbury. Had a huge win there in our last one in Sweden. That's a good fight. That's a good level fight, definitely. I think you have Mark D.C.

And Landovin, Adam. But that's another one that's far. How are you putting that down there? I don't know why the fuck that's down there. That should be on the main card. That should be probably ahead of, you know, a loan check and OSP, in my opinion. That's a cracking fight.

That's, this is Mark's first out since the Duffy win, is it? Since the Duffy win, yeah. So that's a big, big fight for Mark. You know, it bounced back against Joe. I think we might see old school Mark D. Casey just wrestle this guy to the ground and hold him. Like, I mean... Yeah, well, like, do you really want to stand a bang with Lando? Yeah, not at all.

Don't want to spend the bag with him, to be honest. Yeah, true, no, but Lando, we've seen what Lando can do in defeat. And, you know, he's coming out, Jesus, two draws in his last four fights, which is... That's metal, isn't it? That is pretty mad. But we saw that, you know, when he made his day, because he... I think it was back in 2016 against Ferguson, you know, came in and threw down.

And we saw the fight, obviously, against David T. Moore as well, which is another cracker, one for the European memory. If you remember that one, a standing bang, scrapped. It was fight of the night. So very interesting, that one, and I think that is another potential fight tonight. Definitely, it's a good fight.

And then, of course, it's going to be Jack Shore opening up the fight card against Noheelan Hernandez. It's under a scrap, isn't it? That's it. Like, No, He looked really good. He fought Marilyn Vera. Short noticed. actually clubbed, if I remember correctly,

he battered Marilyn in the first round and then got submitted in the second. Marilyn Vera is an animal lick. So that's a really interesting one man. It's, I mean, looking at those two cards, we just broke them down back to back. Copenhagen's a far stronger card, isn't it? 100%.

Like, I mean, I'm very invested in Bellator because I know these guys have watched them come up, but, I mean, if you're talking about standard here, like, the matchups, like, are incredible. The matchups is a major difference to me. The matchups, the matchups is the big difference. yeah um obviously we've had guys fall off the bellator card injured but scoping quidd he's a high level fight it is belator there's a few of them like as you said chadwick or more um but yeah it can't really

compete in terms of a high level now yeah i totally agree you look at the jacker manson cannon near mark on madson gun on else for god's sake yeah marcia case he de vanata jack shore nelson hernandez yeah yeah speaks volumes it does indeed but um you're away on the some holidays. You need an owl. You'll work very hard, Noel. You need some time. Not working hard enough at the moment. No, I think it's good just to, you know, I said fuck it a few weeks ago and get the head

away, get some headspace and eat up a bit of sun and drink some beer, watch the rugby, and watch the fights on Friday and Saturday night and swipe away on Tinder, so it should be a bit of fun on there. Is this one of one of the Noel's solo missions? Are you going away with a few of Lazis or something? I'm going on my own to me, York. Now, one of the couple of boys are coming over.

they've got passed from the wife's. Oh, really? Paul O'Connor, two Galway lads on Declan O'Halloran. So I've been slagging them all week. I said, clean your jeans, boys. Because you know, those buggers, they got around their dirty jeans on and it looks like the shite all over them. So there you go.

I tell them to clean their jeans and no white front side or clean their skid marks off to my own music scene. So listen, no, I'm looking forward to it, man. It's been a while. So let's just chill. It's all I want to do is just chill for a week. They had this fucking dark weather. Look at the state of it.

It's so dark. This time two months ago, man. It was bright. Bright, yeah, man. I was only thinking about that when I was coming down the road. Usually I'd leave to come down here later. And I was driving today.

It was pitch black already. I was like, this is crazy. In a month, it's just completely gone. It is totally... The temperature is still pretty high, even though it's wet and rainy, but that's going to drop dramatically now. As soon as October kicks in.

Yeah, I got a bit of food poison at the weekend as well. That wasn't nice. Norton, man. Both ends? No, it was just... The day after. it came out the other end, but it was came out the top end. I had a few beers as well after work and, oh man, it was,

I could feel it, you can, you can sit in your stomach, maybe that's what it was. Yeah, yeah, that's probably it like I never drink. Your system being shocked by alcohol because it must be two years in Jetargo. Oh, 10, like, yeah. 10 fucking hours more. Are we going to win the fucking World Cup? No, I don't buy into this shit.

I think, no, it's just, it's an example of the media here. Are England going to win it? Possibly. Yeah, I think England was very good chance. England made us look terrible. But I think you can't look past New Zealand. really after the weekend. Phenomenal performance against the softers.

But listen, no, listen, Ireland were really good. They were, in fairness, it was their best performance in over a year. They looked at a bit different. They were a bit predictable over the last few months. So it's good to see, but again, the media going to bit OTT and people here are going, oh, we're going to win it now. No, we're not, listen, just let's get out of the pool first and then start looking at each game as it happens.

And listen, that's what Joe's going to do anyway. And I hope we do, but listen, I don't think so. Is that the hard, like, I mean, the pool of Scotland, in Japan and who else? Scotland, Japan Oh my God. Oh my God. Scotland, Japan

Namibia. Oh, is there five in a group? Yeah, yeah, it's five in a group. Oh, I didn't know that. Scotland, Japan, Namibia and Italy, I think. Is that correct? Italy?

Hang on, maybe I'm talking shied here. Ireland, Japan, Samoa Russia. Scotland, sorry, yeah, there, go. Jesus Christ, imagine that. Put me on the spot. Northwider, town, the south order. Here's in the group. No, but I got a, I got a,

fucking like, I got up at like 540, that Mexico City card ruined everything. I stayed up to 4 a.m. to watch a lad, pause someone in the face and then all hell break loose and I was like, oh, well, I'm not getting up for the match now, that's great. I was quite annoyed as well. I had money on the two games and I only lost by a point in like

two of them. It was absolutely sick and like, I would have cared 500 quid off the two games. All the people are going mad on Twitter in the first half of the Ireland match and I was downstairs making me mass and rushes. In fairness though, you did watch the New Zealand. You text me saying about New Zealand to Africa.

Yeah, I'd watch that. That's a highlight. They're the two best teams in the world at the moment. Well, my dad was watching I just kind of nipped in because I'm back now.

I'm back in the parents' gaff now. So it's, yeah, it's good crack in fairness. I had a bit of a nightmare first week because there's no Wi-Fi and stuff, but we just have to do it to get the old shackles together for our mortgage because Ireland's a shit hole.

It is a shithel. It's a horrible country, horrible media. It's just, the weather's poxy. You can't do anything. There's like this Illuminati society in our end, isn't it?

It's fucking mad. It's just so for us, right? When you talk to someone from a different country, like, in the States or whatever, and you're telling them... Okay, let's pay you fuck all and then charge you $1,500 a month for rent. Like, me and Lainer earned on bad money. Like, it's just this country is shit.

Like, they don't support anything. They don't... It's just, you know, unless you're a... Leo Radkers... Imagine if this was Mexico City. Like, those guys would be out in the streets to be thrown bottles and stuff for them. Because we, for some reason,

whatever it is here, we just take shit our people. Yeah, well, we need to stand. on up. That's all trying martial arts. I tried that man. It doesn't fuck all. But... Train UFC. I need to do that. But yeah. I think that's everything.

You're off to Melbourne now after Bellator, Dublin, yeah? So I'm terrified. Like, I'm not looking far as to Floyd at all, man. It is. It's a shit one I've done a couple of times. Eight hours to Abu Dhabi's 14th to Melbourne. Yeah, it is punishing. But you'll have a bit of crack over there with the rugby

on and stuff. I know they're not the biggest union fans down in Melbourne. It's more AFA. and stuff, but it'd be great. Great. My friends are telling me mostly in Melbourne, like, it's very multicultural, like at most kind of, you know, different nationalities all over that kind of place.

Yeah, I mean, the cousin used to run the pub there, the, in the, in the Irish, in the Gabba, what's the name of the field there? It's the famous fields. They have an Irish club there, and he used to run that, and he used to be a family over there. But it's, they love the Aussie rails there and the Ruby League.

Yeah, that's what me, my Tom, I was telling me that, actually, he was like, it's a big Ruby League place. Massive, like, or he was expecting, The bars to be jammers. They will. I'd say you get good crack when you're there, especially with Ireland or on. You know,

it'll be really good. It's the atmosphere there. You'll enjoy it. But you'll have a few schooners. What's the school? They're like little, they're like little, they're not your points.

Like they're sort of, two quarters of a point. It's a weird sort of size. So half a point is two quarters, yeah? It's not a hot, no, it's not, sorry, Jesus, fucking hell.

Whatever it is. It's like, it's not half. Is it like them bar beers they get in America? Like, no, no, they're a bit smaller. And... Scanners.

They keep them like that because it gets so hot in the summer. Oh, that's a good show, actually, yeah? Keep it in a little glass. Yeah, that's a good show. It's good and drink the, they'll get the old stuff oil out there.

What are you telling me to get? The Cooper's pale ale. Beautiful stuff. You can get it here, the green one. Yeah, yeah. Make sure they have that on tap there, Pizzi. Have one for me, send me pictures.

I will. And the old DB and Victoria Bitter is all right as well. If anyone wants me to sign your baby or anything, you just approach me or felt it pens. No hassle. Says the rock here.

The Rock here. The Rock used to say, oh, kiss babies, hugging people and kissing babies. That's what it's like, that's what it's like, man. But isn't you a superstar like Peter Carroll? Absolutely.

And now a multimedia superstar I see. Tell the people about this. He's earning a video edit. Nine hours. Welcome to my fucking world. Top and tail it. It's a pain of the hoop. Look,

I'm fucking deadly at it now. I'll teach you to have audio edit so soon. I think I can do that with Premier as well. Yeah, you can. You can do it tonight, sure. No, thanks. That's all we have. I don't know what we're going to do for next week,

because Noel's away there might not be a podcast, there may be a podcast. Yeah, we're yet to decide if we can work. We'll try and work out something and if we can work it out. We'll get it up.

Because my plan, my plan was to record it and I'll just grab something on a bell tour on Friday and record it but then I was like, but then Copenhagen's the next day. So it makes no sense. Yeah, so you'd be like,

what are we going to do? Well, if we can work at a time on Monday, I'll do it no problem from there if I've decent internet and in the hotel. Well, I'm going on flying out on Monday. All right, okay, that's a bit of an issue. More than likely, we're not going to have a podcast next week.

It's going to be difficult. Look, if I can somehow pull it out my arse, I will. But that's all we got for you. So potentially, won't be talking to you for two weeks. And if you do, stay safe. And just don't listen to any of your podcast because they might scare you.

That's my recommendation. I reckon that's going to come back from New York with three kids and married. It's going to be beautiful, man. It's going to be good. Yeah, I'm looking forward to getting out of here. But I hope that Thomas Cook thing doesn't do that to me. But I make it.

Yeah, it's a good old Thomas Cook. But that's all. we've got for you guys huge weekend for european mma enjoy yourselves and love yourself good luck