MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 57 (w/ Darren Stewart, Emil Meek)

Episode Date: October 22, 2019

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Darren Stewart (20:30) discusses his big win over rival Deron Winn at UFC Boston and Emil Meek (52:30) discusses his nightmare 2019 and why he wants to fight Diego S...anchez. Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath look at the latest headlines in European MMA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:25 Service fees exclusions in terms apply. And we are back. It's episode 57 of the Bash. And me and Noel are separated for the livery today we've remained in our comfortable abode, but we are nonetheless with each other and with you again this week. I'm on the better side.
Starting point is 00:02:06 European MMA, in his opinion, he's on the better side. I wouldn't agree. I'd say nine out of ten people in Dublin would agree. The south side is the superior side anyway. I don't know about superior, so definitely cleaner, but I don't know about superior. How are you anyway? Good, man, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Disappointing weekend. We'll talk about that at the end of the show. but I suppose United sort of rescued it a little bit yesterday but listen, good weekend and mixed martial arts Saturday night was a pretty entertaining card to watch so I'm not complaining to you yourself. Yeah, yeah, no, all good. Obviously I had a bit of trouble earlier last week
Starting point is 00:02:41 which we'll talk about again at the end of the show. I know a lot of people are looking forward to hearing what happened there. But other than that, no, I'm pretty good. A little bit hungover, going to tell you the truth. but yeah other than that I'm all good just couldn't get the car today to get out to you unfortunately
Starting point is 00:02:58 which is very sad but you know it's nice for people like me to be in a nicer part of the world even if it is for just a few hours a week you know shut up just get on with the show
Starting point is 00:03:08 shut up get on with it right are we going to break down the news we are indeed I believe there might be a new edition making an appearance here today maybe there is
Starting point is 00:03:17 right so let's get it on I hope people like it are you You seem to like it. I loved it. I loved it. So, yeah, let's see what they think. And if they don't like it, fuck them. We like it anyway.
Starting point is 00:03:30 So we're going to keep it in. Jesus is the number. Yeah, well, here's the headlines. Tom Aspinall, Cage Warriors, heavyweight, teammate of Darren Till's at Team Cowban. Former sparring partner for Tyson Fury has inked a deal with the UFC just after two appearance with Cage Warriors since he returned to the sport this year. Good going from Tom, hey? What you're reckon in that, Noel?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Big time. I don't think anyone's really surprised. Darren's been big in a month for a long, long time. We've seen the videos on Cage Warriors for ages of Darren talking about him. So not surprising at all. I think it's good for obviously UK MMA to have a guy of his stature going to the UFC Heavyweight Division because they need the numbers, man. And it's good.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Like, how highly do you rate this guy, though? Yourself? I think, I think, like, as a heavyweight, he is a dual threat in the sense that he has, knockout power and he's a black belt in jiu-jitsu so i think that's a huge skill set we bring it to to have going into that heavyweight division you know i think he can make big waves uh especially um if he's matched correctly against like unranked guys to start him off to generate a bit of hype so yeah i think he's definitely well-label for it you know what you think of the way he announced it it was a bit strange you know it it sort of took the light off darn maybe a little bit no yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:04:46 do you know what it kind of reminded me of when everyone started getting signed around coner yeah you know I have a feeling. They have the, like, you know, they're obviously, they know they have a star in Darren, regardless of how we feel about that next matchup he has, but he's definitely a star. And look, they want to probably come back to Liverpool and why not have Tom Aspin will join the likes of Molly McCann
Starting point is 00:05:10 and Darren that are already so good there, you know? Yeah, get a few more sport. Oh, he's on anyway, I suppose. It's not a bad thing, really, at the end of the day. But, no, I'm excited, man. I really am. I think it's going to be going. Aspen Ladd's appeal for her loss to Germain Durandami was unsuccessful.
Starting point is 00:05:26 That took place in, I believe it was California last week. I think the big basis of the complaint is that a men's contest would not be stopped as quickly as that. The commission disagreed. But I guess a good one from a European perspective that Durandini keeps the win there. Yeah, no, it is. but it's a little bit strange in terms of we had a few issues there at the weekend
Starting point is 00:05:54 and I thought it made the commission in Boston, I know it's obviously different commission than California, I'm just talking about general way cutting here and maybe we might chat about it later on in terms of the scales were definitely off last weekend. Yeah, you were to you text me about that as well a lot of people coming in really low, you were saying.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah, and actually Sean Brady said the scales were out on his Facebook page by two pounds. So, like, you know, When you're getting that and there was people coming in two pounds under and it was a bit strange so I think
Starting point is 00:06:22 you know that shouldn't be happening man I really shouldn't at all maybe Manny Bermudez his coach was flouting around with it beforehand because he knew he was gonna come in heavy probably was that's what happened
Starting point is 00:06:33 these Boston lads you know what I mean Moyles Price has finally got a fight and it's a big one I certainly think it's a good one Moyles Price v Alfie Davis book for Bellator London
Starting point is 00:06:43 what do you think of that one now I gotta say stand at war Yeah, it's going to be a great stand-up fight, but, you know, Miles was kind of saying that he didn't think Kiefer, like, you know, had a good enough, you know, name, good enough stock for him. I think Kiefer has more stock than Alvi Davis in terms of support and interest, definitely. So, I mean, it doesn't make sense in that sense, but it's still good to see Moyles booked and against a well-known opponent, let's say. Yeah, I think it's, it is good to see him booked, but I do agree with you in terms of, you know, is it really a step up from, from Kweely? I don't think so, but I would have liked to see the Kiefer fight and get more eyes maybe on Miles again
Starting point is 00:07:23 and see if he can come out and, you know, I don't know how the bookmakers would see a fight between him and Kiefer going into it. But it would have been great to see, but it's just unfortunate now that we're not going to see that fight because, you know, the shit talk between fucking, you know, Miles and the SBG guys has been great. And I think it's something I should have continued on. I'm not allowed to ask any questions about him anymore than you. You're not see, yeah, Kiefer. Oh, what happened? After he asked him about it after his win.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Oh, yeah, he called you. He slated Miles, didn't he? And he said he couldn't even speak properly. No, no, he was given out to me for asking him about Miles after his last win. But it would have been great, though, man. Like, I love these. Well, I mean, like, even when he's given out to me, it makes people more interesting. So I'm like, Mae, what are you, you shooting yourself on the foot here?
Starting point is 00:08:06 I say, no, I'm not interested in the fight. Exactly. Of course it does. You know, and we had the whole Joe McCulgan thing for ages with SBG as well, which was put noise on Joe as well, I mean, so it puts eyes and both guys. So I don't know. I think Alvi David is obviously a great fighter and it's going to be a fun one to watch,
Starting point is 00:08:20 but I would have liked to seem maybe a bit of a step up again. Yes, yes. Unfortunate news for Ursham, my fans, as Bellator Bantamway, Brian Moore reveals that he suffered another broken hand. He's having some real trouble with that. It sounds like he had an issue with the plate they put into his hand and some things like that. Very unfortunate, Brun Brune's had at the moment,
Starting point is 00:08:42 and wish him all the best of course. It's really worrying for Brian because he's broken that hand. I think in the fight against Noah, with Lathad, he actually broke it in three separate places. So, you know, Brian had a few issues with that before as well, even before that fight.
Starting point is 00:08:56 So it is, it's a worrying one. It's, you know, hand injuries of off and end guys' career. So I just hope he can make a full recovery because Brian's a really, really fantastic talent and a guy I think we love to see,
Starting point is 00:09:05 you know, get in there and obviously brings a big cray with him as well. Yeah, nice little fight booked for November 15th on that Brave 29 card, which we had discussed last week about this multi-way tournament and stuff. Ryan Curtis and Amir Al-Bazier also fighting on that card, which is a very good fight. But I really like this bantamway fight. Dean Garnett, Ronnie Sada. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Really, really good. I mean, Dean, he's one of the most respected guys on the UK scene. And Ronnie was a dude that a lot of people thought was heading straight for the UFC when he was competing with Bama back in the day, right? Yeah, 100%. And did Ronnie not get called in and had to pull out of it? fight. Is that, am I talking shite when I'm saying that? I don't know. That does sound, that does sound familiar actually now
Starting point is 00:09:48 what you mention it. From a European card and then I think there was weight issues or something to pull back off it and then he didn't get re-signed. But yeah, Ronnie's a guy he's been around, you know, for a long, long, long time. And let's talk about Dean Garnett, like, you know, what a talent he was. Obviously, when was the last time he fought? Was it ACB? It's a long time. Yes, I do think it was
Starting point is 00:10:07 in an ACB that he fought. You know, and he was going in against savages, I remember. But like guys that weren't really that well known to us over here. But like Anthony Deone, he would have been a Belator veteran. He took a loss to him. Magomed, Magamatoff, big deal in Russia. He took a loss to him as well.
Starting point is 00:10:26 But, you know, he destroyed that guy in Michael Tobin. Remember the Australian guy that they're all getting really hyped about? He went through him for a shortcut. And then he also got that split decision winning over Dominic Wooding. So, I mean, that's a huge win as far as I'm concerned. and Dean was one of the top talents you know in the UK for a long long time people were gone this guy is you know
Starting point is 00:10:46 on his way to the UFC and obviously it hasn't worked out that way but fantastic fighter to watch man all round you know really well versed and some good sales get there yeah I just feel like ACB man I just feel like with ACB a lot of guys actually distance himself
Starting point is 00:11:02 from the UFC because like as good as the money was as good as the talent they had on them rosters, it just wasn't a big deal here. You know, people, like, we were trying to get people interested in it, but it just wasn't happening. It just didn't, it didn't garner that much interest. So I think even when you, when you reflect on Brennan's situation, I think, like, because he was competing in ACB, that just was so far off the UFC's radar.
Starting point is 00:11:27 They just, you know, they didn't really care that much. I think so. And I think, you know, you look at ACB as well, some of the things that were going on with the scoring system they had in place there and, you know, amongst other things that it was off-putting people from actually watching the promotion. So yeah, listen, I totally agree with you And I think as well, if there's actually a great documentary I don't know if anyone's ever watched it on Dean Garnett as well
Starting point is 00:11:47 Like way cutting one on BBC 3 Brilliant It's a fantastic piece of work So go check that out if you haven't seen it And yeah, listen I love that fight thing, it's a really good one And I'll certainly have my eyes on that fight card now with that edition And just finally there has been seven fights at the Cage Warriors cork Ian Gary will take on Figglack
Starting point is 00:12:05 McAleen and takes on Southwell Eric Nolan v. Mitchell, Blackaway versus Manning, Fletcher v. Mulholland, Wutthian, V. Lawrence, V. Lawrence, and Akpan v. McGuire. But really, really good card that's shaping up to be. Obviously, Reese McKee against Hacken Foss at the top of that there. Joe McCulligan still doesn't have a fight announced, but I do believe he's going to be on it as well. Shaping up very well for Irish fans that night, and I hope we will see a similar,
Starting point is 00:12:34 you know, let's sell out the Nephyl. the same way as Beltaur did in Dublin. I really hope that the Irish fans get behind us because when Cage Warriors is active in Ireland, it does amazing things. It starts creating that path for Irish fighters in the UFC. And look, we are seriously lacking fighters in the UFC at the moment. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:12:52 No, 100% I think going back to its spiritual home as well, down in Cork, there'd be a big, big turnout. And yeah, listen, you know, I think Reese is the guy that is most sort of likely at the moment to be picked up by the UFC. if he can put on a couple, two, three more performances, you know, with that touch of debt with that left hand, I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:12 the sky is the limit for Mr. McKin in terms of him heading over towards the UFC. Yeah, I couldn't agree more with you. And obviously, like, a lot of people are really hot and Ian Gary at the moment, so I think that's going to be a big thing for him to be fighting at home as well. Definitely, big time, looking forward to. Well, that's the end of our news roundup. I just figured we would talk about Connor McGregor. Now, I know as we are in Ireland,
Starting point is 00:13:35 there is only so much we can talk about when it comes to Connor at the moment. But, you know, interesting I felt to see him. Obviously, we've been talking about the fact that, you know, as soon as you mentioned, Edgar and that Helwani interview, we were pretty short. That's the way he wanted to go. But then the next day, he's, you know, talking to Abib, quite a, quite a, a racy back and forth they had on Twitter there. And also Dana Hoyt coming out and saying, you know, Connor's not the man anymore.
Starting point is 00:14:02 this is a very interesting moment I feel in his career well he's not the man anymore yeah that's yeah it's completely fair to say and I mean this this also today the Macleufe release an article that says Connor will be going to Russia for a press conference on Thursday I believe it is and it's just a bit mad isn't it's a bit all over the place at the moment everything seems so frantic man it does no yeah I agree with
Starting point is 00:14:28 you and you know let's start off with Dana what Dana said And like he isn't the man. The guy hasn't fought, you know, since last October. It's a year now. Is it over a year? I think it's just over a year. You know, being in and out of the headlines, different things going on. A lot of things going on.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Yeah, a lot of, a lot of things going on. You know, he's fought, what, twice since 2016 in the cage. For me, man, like, you know, the sport moves on. And he isn't a man. He lost his world title. We talked about the interview we did with Ariel Hoan. there was a big air of desperation in that interview from me listening to it anyway,
Starting point is 00:15:04 that's the way I came across and the way I thought of it. So yeah, when you're on Twitter every other day calling out every other lightweight in the roster and not committing to a fight, it's very, very easy to talk shit in social media and not actually engage in something. And I think this is the way we're going here.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Like, you know, it's sort of shit or get off the pop book of fight. You can't call yourself the man if you're not actively engaging in physical combat in the octagon. that's the way I look at it so the sport is moving on and you know it's either shirder got off the pot at this point for me I feel like his also his pursuit of Frankie Edgar
Starting point is 00:15:39 points to a guy that's slightly out of touch with the game at the moment you know I agree like I mean with the greatest respect to Frankie a great fighter a man who has contested title fights in multiple divisions and maybe even one more he had made it pretty clear that he was going to 135 for for Conner to beat a Frankie Edgar
Starting point is 00:15:55 that's 135 bound lightweight for me it's not a statement. Look, it's a no, no mean feat to go in there and be Frankie Edgar, but I mean, from where he was. Frank, he's not the same fighter he was five years ago.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Nowhere near it. That's be honest about it. But he's not even the same size. Like, I mean, you know what I mean? It's just a different situation. Completely different situation at the time. There was questions being asked of Conradend that he,
Starting point is 00:16:18 that he did answer to a certain extent after that, beyond that with the likes of Mendez and stuff like this. But I just don't, I think it's very out of touch to think, like the way he put, that out there. And, you know, you can see the reaction. People aren't really interested, you know, they really aren't. They're not interested. But I think Connor, and we don't even know where Connor's at in terms of his fighting career, what he's going to bring back in.
Starting point is 00:16:40 But I think Connor sees an opportunity there, a smaller guy, as you said, a guy who's, let's be honest, he's not the Frankie Edgar he was five years ago, as I just said. And I think Connor sees an opportunity there to go out, make a statement, and somehow translate that as if he's beaten one of the top lightweights in the world and put him back in the frame because he badly needs a win in his next fight I think regardless or his stock's going to even drop further in my opinion so it's a crucial moment I think maybe he's being a little bit more selective in what he wants to do next because I think he feels he can finish Frankie and finish Frankie early. You would expect that this press conference in rushes for whiskey right?
Starting point is 00:17:17 Because he did tweet there last week that the great proper 12 is coming to Russian shores So do you reckon that's what that is? Of course it is. What else is it? Because it's a total marketing plan. I'm sure it'll piss off Habib as well and some of his fans. And I know Connor is a lot of fans in Russia as well, in fairness. So it's going to be an interesting one.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I'm very intrigued to see what the reception is going to be like. But yeah, listen, he's going to stir a shit. He's going to try and stir a shit with Habib. But, you know, he's not getting that fight next. So I think we'll forget about that. From Connor will go to Habib. I also wanted to bring this up to you. What about that?
Starting point is 00:17:54 news from our friend Dennis at RT and he put out there last week that Habib had left his own press conference. He put on a press conference in Russia and just left without taking any questions. His media management isn't the May West
Starting point is 00:18:11 at the moment. Isn't it not like I mean he clearly has taking a massive turn against the media here. Like even from his time when I was in Abu Dhabi covering his voice. Have you heard about what happened there at the what was supposed to be his scrum that day. Yeah, I heard that it was supposed to show for that.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And then we were put into a room and we were told that he was going to do some questions with the media. I remember. And so we're all sitting down. It's like a press conference situation. Someone from Habib's team looks through the door and sees the setup as in loads of journalists sitting in chairs and his chair up on the stage and said, this isn't a scrum and changes everything at the last second. So Casey has to sprint from the back of the room up with the audio film and the camera. It was a complete mess, you know.
Starting point is 00:18:55 But it feels like he's just making things awkward as he can for the media at the moment and really calling a press conference and then just leaving. I think that's really not going to hold him in good stead the next time he does something like that in Russia. Will publications be like, let's send people? I think they might be a bit reluctant. Well, these guys, man, and you know, we talk about it a whole time, the amount of fighters that are so unaware of the media's role on how they treat the media and what to get out of the media.
Starting point is 00:19:19 And then a fighter goes doing something like that twice. it's not the first time his press conference that he's called he's thrown up two of his other teammates to speak instead of him last Friday or whenever it was he leaves the arena he leaves the building people are just going to as you said we're the ones who put eyes in the sport you have to respect the media regardless of what some of them say about you
Starting point is 00:19:40 we're not all fucking demons and bad guys Habib needs to sort that out Ali Abdelaziz should be sorting that out with Habib I don't think Ali's you know done on himself any favors with the media over the years either. So maybe that's an issue. I don't know. Is someone really advising Habib very well? How to deal with the media? I don't think so, man. And I think it's a major, major problem. He's going to have to shartstone some more professionalism and respect when it comes to dealing with the media because it's a fucking joke, to be honest, you're walking out of press conferences. Yeah, no, it is. It's very, very weird. It's just strange. I mean, like, it doesn't really make all that much sense.
Starting point is 00:20:17 But it's almost as if he doesn't want to deal with some of the questions that he knows are going to be thrown his way and I find that quite immature you know as a fighter it's you know it comes with the territory it comes with the money it comes with you know winning world titles deal with a public figure you're a public figure you know that's a reason where you're getting paid so much money made
Starting point is 00:20:35 that's that's what um obviously I'm all four fighters getting paid way more money and great money that's what we all want to see but I mean you gotta you gotta play the game here to a certain extent mate definitely um right well that's a that's our talking points done and we've already
Starting point is 00:20:51 done the news. So let's move it on to our first guest of the week. It is Mr. Darren Stewart who had a huge win over Darren Win in Boston last weekend on the main card. Great, great win. There was some controversy surrounding some of the commentary calls by Dominic Cruz during that
Starting point is 00:21:09 fight. We talked about that. We talked about the fact that Darren Wayne had brought Darren's mother into the pre-fight Amble beforehand. And we talked about whether Darren, who Darren certainly considers an arrogant man from what he's heard about him can improve on the back of that performance because, you know, we've seen that in a lot of times, we speak about nearly every week. How a fighter's first loss can also become their biggest learning curve. So lots to talk about with Darren, his first time on the show, and he was absolutely brilliant. So we'll be back in about 15 minutes to talk to you guys some more about UFC Boston. And possibly I might tickle Noel with a question about Bigfoot and Gabriel Gonzaga last. So we'll see us very soon. And now we are joined by Darren Stewart,
Starting point is 00:21:57 a man who put the first blemish on Darren Wins' record over the weekend and what a fine performance it was. Darren, how good does this one feel? It must feel extra special given the war of words that ensued ahead of this fight. Yeah, it feels really, really good, man, because he was talking a lot of crap, you know, and... Sorry about it, sorry. No problem.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah, he's talking a lot of crap, in it? So the fact that someone's oh, it had to go, mine's already gone. It feels really, really good. Yes, yes, absolutely. And I mean, when I was speaking to you earlier that week, you pretty much called it exactly how it would go. You were talking about his cardio not being able to hold up against yours and the fact that he's never really fought someone with the same kind of movement.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And you really did showcase that movement in the third round. How happy are you with the performance, given that it seemed to go exactly as you planned? I'm very, very good. I mean, I didn't underestimate his wrestling. I mean, I knew he's going to get me down at some point. I mean, the guy's been, I've got to give him credit. The guy's been wrestling since he was five or six years old.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Three-time All-American. Unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's been wrestling, one like three-times champion or whatever it is, like what he does. So I knew eventually I was going to get down, but I knew he ain't got a cardio for me. And I'm happy that I've showed it. I know for a fact there's no one in the UFC right now that moves like me. Everyone's got cardio.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Everyone moved, but everyone is pretty much the same. Or you get a couple of unique people. I'm one of the unique people. So I knew, for example, I knew for a fact, sorry, he's not training with no one that moves like me. And my card is off the roof, so... Here's what it is. That's why I'm so happy about performance. Yes, yeah, and I believe that was something new you had done.
Starting point is 00:23:38 You were speaking about it in the lead up to this fight. This was the first time you really had a kind of sports science, etc. Is this a relatively new thing in your camp that you've been doing that's major? cardio push to the next level? Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. I never, not that I never was interested into sports science. It's just I never had the links to it. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:57 No one reached out to help me. Now, people said, how the hell did I get to UFC without all of this? Like, you know, I'm just, I'm a genetic freak, they call me, you know? And now I've got sports science involved. It's game over for people now. And I think I've shown it because, you know, I look better. I feel better as well. Cardo's off the roof
Starting point is 00:24:20 and it's going to be really, really, it's going to be trouble for people in this division. You know, what did it feel like as you're standing there and you're waiting for the judge's decision to be announced? I mean, are you fully confident you've got the win at that stage
Starting point is 00:24:36 or how do you feel? As soon as they say split decision, are you going, okay, this could go badly for me? You know what? Yeah, right? Like, as a fighter, I'll come to fight, right? so I knew I won the fight but you know
Starting point is 00:24:50 you know you see like a like America wrestling that the scoring system is shit so as a fighter I knew I won but if you're looking at tape downs and stuff like that when as it's like a wrestling America like the score system is shit
Starting point is 00:25:07 so as a fight I knew I won but I thought you know what split decision I had a feeling they'll give it to him honestly if you saw my if you look at the video carefully yeah they said deron and darron that sounds the same so when i heard darron i was like oh darron win but they saw my coaches i saw my coaches um jumping so i was like oh yes i won you if you look at you see the video watch it back that because they said it yeah my arm went up but i made some sort of phase first and then i was like oh yes i won yes you know but i watched my fight back and i think i just
Starting point is 00:25:42 he got me down but he didn't do nothing with it I was going to ask you about that if you had watched on the TV because a lot of European MMA fans and a lot of fans in general, media members, were pretty annoyed with the way Dominic Cruz called that fight and the fact that he seemed to put so much importance on Octagon position, which isn't really prominent in the criteria anymore. It's all about effective striking and grappling. And really, when he got you down, he didn't do much with it.
Starting point is 00:26:07 In fact, you were opening him up from the bottom. I'm surprised. I'm surprised because Dominic Cruz is a mover. So he should be on my side Like you know the way he moves He's always cutting the angles and he strikes Like I'm surprised There's one point where
Starting point is 00:26:22 He got me down was in the third round I did a lot of work He got me down in the third round And I think Dominic said That fact That tape that could just Well with him the round or some shit Was it the third round or second round?
Starting point is 00:26:32 That was yeah And you would had a lot of success In the striking exchange In the tour round First two minutes of the tour round You're nearly stiling on the guy As far as I was concerned You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah so how is it that He gets a tape down It's gonna it can win that, right? It's bullshit. I'm glad it's changed, though. I've been reading some stuff online. Apparently they're making more even now, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:51 You don't just take someone down and you can win now, you know? They're making it fairly. You can win off your back now, you know? But was that hard to watch? Like, I mean, when you're watching it back and you probably have in your mind how the fight went and you're going to look at it back going, well, you know, they're thinking he nicked rounds here and there
Starting point is 00:27:05 just from takedowns? No, man. It's nonsense, man. It's nonsense. It's nonsense. I won as a fighter in it I threw strikes off my back as a fighter I won he took me down he had a little bits on bobs of
Starting point is 00:27:19 grand and pound or whatever but he didn't do nothing like if you look at Khabia he does something with it that's a different story you know what I mean but with me like he didn't really I was so come from my back you know like I was like okay cool I'm here now like there's one point he took me down
Starting point is 00:27:35 away from the cage and Kormir was like oh Darren Stewart is accepting it and he's not even trying to to get up. You're damn right. I'm accepting it. Well, I'm going to waste my energy to get back up and away from the cage. The cage is not there for me to get up. You guys want me to get up, then take me back down, then get up, then take me back down. That's a brazen fight. I'm more of an experience fighter. I've got better fight at Q. You're damn right, accepted it. I'm laying there, I'm cutting you open. Do you know what I mean? But it's the way the commentary's
Starting point is 00:28:04 like, oh, he's not trying to do this. He's not trying to do that. You know, all that stuff. It's a joke, man. But to be fair, know what? You know what? I thought the commentary would have been worse. It was all right. It was all right. I expected. They said to me, they said some good stuff about,
Starting point is 00:28:18 yeah, I'm taking them out. I get back up and I got the cardio. And I'm not respecting his take that. I'd give him my back to get up, you know? Yeah. Absolutely. It's, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:32 you said to me before this that you understood Darren's mentality and the fact that you said, when I was unbeaten, I felt like that. I felt like nobody could touch me, etc. but I was always a bit more humble.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But it seems to me, after reading his post online after this fight, that this was a huge wake-up call for him. And that's really what you expected it to be. Is that the kind of impression you're getting from it? Like, even from missing weight, you know, a lot of things didn't go his way this week. I mean, do you feel like it will be a wake-up call from this loss could be a potentially good thing for his career? Of course it'd be a wake-up call, but then at the end of the day, it's how he takes it.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I've been told and I can see he's an arrogant person. You're not even making weight. I've been told about this. He struggles to make weight. I've been told his attitude. Like, I'm not going to say no name, but some fighters in the hotel were telling me, I'm glad you beat him, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:23 Because he's an arrogant person. So it depends how he takes it. Is it a wake-up call? For me, it would be a wake-up call, but not everyone's me. Like I said, there's part of me that understands why he is the way he is, because, like, it's unbeaten
Starting point is 00:29:36 and trains out of top. gym yeah I never had that I never had that I don't try out a top gym I came I came to you see for my gym you know hopefully one day will be a top gym but he's he's loud he's got high people around him he's unbeaten but come on man like you gotta be real who did you beat you haven't been in war this is the difference between me and him you haven't been in wars though you say you're being the deep end yeah you ain't been in no deep end car cracked you over right and you backed up people crack me I'm not backing up you know you haven't been in deep water
Starting point is 00:30:08 So when I lost my zero, it was a wake-up call for me because I lost an experience. And some people have said I still could have edged that fight because it was my worst night and the guy only beat me by one point. So people were like, yeah, Darren, you know, you've got a future. You know, you've got a future. But him, everything went downhill for him. Like, arrogant, losing weight, you know, gassing out, no cardio. Like, but I don't want to sit there in bad mouth because, like I said, different between me and him is, like, I'm a humble person.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I respect everyone I fight. And I do wish him all the best, and I hope he learns from it. But if you don't, my life still goes on. It's interesting. Like, I mean, obviously, you made a point of saying after the fight that, you know, he brought your mother into that, and that's something that we all know. It doesn't go down very well with people in this neck of the woods. And, I mean, did it feel like he came over to you?
Starting point is 00:31:03 Like, did he come over to you and apologize for what he had said after the fact? Did you have any interaction with him after the fight that would tell you that maybe he was just handing it up for social media, et cetera? No, but before the fire, he had an interview saying, you know what, me and Dan were going back and forward and, you know, I hope we can be friends after this fight, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I really knew from then, if you were serious about your cousin, why didn't be friends afterwards? So I already knew that you were kind of mentally weak. You're just doing it for show. Do you know what I'm saying? Now, where I came from, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:41 where I come from is that you have to be good at two things, in it, fighting and at Custin school. So to me, it's banter. Like, it did get my mum involved. I didn't take it 100% personal because I'm used to banter anyway. But it just, it's just wanting the energy. Like, any other fight I might say,
Starting point is 00:31:55 I might be okay. But from him, from what I'm hearing about, I'm already. And, you know, when it came from him, it just did feel right. So I thought, okay, cool. I'm not going to go. beat you up in a hotel
Starting point is 00:32:08 whatever, do you know what I mean? I want to remain humble. I'll see you in there, do you know what I be? I made sure he pay for it. I cut him open, do you know what I mean? Now, you don't talk about people with mum's, you know what I'm saying? Yes. You don't do that, so yeah, he's just talking a little nonsense.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I think it was just for hype because, like I said, in an interview he said, we could be friends afterwards. What do you mean? We were cussing each other back on fourth. I love the cussing matches. I'm not a fighter, just sits there and take it. I can give it back to you.
Starting point is 00:32:33 It blew up online. Then he went ghost for, like, two weeks. I'm in Fippin, I'm in a Lanzarotti. I mean getting a sun in that getting blacker than I am. Yeah? And I see the message saying,
Starting point is 00:32:47 hey, peanut head, I'm back now. Let's get this fact cracking. They're trying to cuss me again. I'm thinking from there, I just feel you're not serious. If you were serious, we would have kept this cussing match going. You took a break to go maybe find some cusses online,
Starting point is 00:32:59 and then you want to come back and cuss again. So then I stopped. If you check my social media, I didn't get him at all. after the rest of the camp. I checked his social media yesterday and this guy was grilling me. I don't check my fight at social media,
Starting point is 00:33:12 but I went on Instagram me. I was like, this guy was grilling me. He's saying, even in the hotel, he must have said something like, I'm signing my opponent's death certificate and all this and that. I'm thinking you're over your head, mate. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Even one IG TV interview done, he's like, yeah, I'm ready to go, man. I'll fight him now. Bro, you can't even make weight. Like, I don't know. It must be a mirror. thing. What do you think? I can't do it. I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:33:41 You see me, I'm working in silence. What you see is I'm putting it in work. That's what you see. You don't hear me say, yeah, I'm on a spin back now. I just done 10 minutes on a spin bag to spin back to spin down everyone's head off. Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't do that. Like, I'm in a spin bag. I'm getting to work in. Cool. That's it. That's what you need to know. But he's like this and that. My opponent. What do he say? There's a Post he said something like, going to put my opponent on the dark side and, oh, bro, it's like, Batman, bro, like, relax, like. But it looks bad now, right?
Starting point is 00:34:14 Like, obviously, if it's, it looks funny now. It looks really funny now. And he's getting it. He's getting it online. How did you find kind of being there with Molly, both of you guys were well known on the Cage Warriors banner before you went over there? I mean, do you feel like you're kind of rep in the UK when you have another fighter there from that neck of the woods on the card?
Starting point is 00:34:35 Of course, we're in UK. Not only that, it's what UK fighters are reping. Where the hyper's UK fighters there? Like, what UK, tell me a loud UK fighter that's loud like us. Probably Darren Till as well, he's loud as well. But that's about it. Like, you know, there's no one, there's no one. I mean, when I say loud, I mean, like in this organisation, the UFC,
Starting point is 00:34:57 yes, yes. No one's really loud like us. Like, we had it smashing. We had our own change room together. We had the music up loud. the fishes are walking paths bopping to our music and that like, he was laughing and like,
Starting point is 00:35:08 I was like, you like that one in it? They're like, yeah, man, like, the UK shit is dope. The UK shit is dope. People are bopping the head. Like, we were smashing it. Like, not only do we bring a fight, we bring atmosphere, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:19 we're bringing liveliness, you know what I mean? Because people take this too serious, this fight game too serious. I understand you've got to sell. Yeah, but I'm looking to change the game. I'm looking to change the game soon because, for example,
Starting point is 00:35:32 I was getting a massage. I swear to go off the subject, but I was going to tell you. I was getting a massage, and then the woman was like, oh, I hope that's not your opponent. I said, bro, bring him in here. What do you mean? Like, I don't understand. It's not serious, like, because if he's my opponent,
Starting point is 00:35:46 so what? He can sit there while I'm getting a massage. It's not personal because I want to see you on the night anyway. Do you know what I mean? Like, we're in a hotel with each other all week, eating breakfast with each other, yeah? And then all of a sudden, when it's fighting day, when it's weighing there or fight day,
Starting point is 00:35:59 you want to get a separate buses, you know, and in case we fight each other. But hold on, we're in a hotel, we'll still know each other. Like, I just think people take this sport too seriously. And that's why people love me and Molly, because ignore that shit. Like, I see you here, I see you tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:36:14 It's what it is when I see you in the case. It's going to be like that. So why am I changing my attitude? Let's be happy and enjoy it. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's too, because you're going to fight. You're going to fight. You cast you fight.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Yeah, you shake hands. Yeah, right? Darren was cussing me. My mom this and that, blah, blah, blah, blah. We fall. He shook my hand after. Done. So.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And the fact. fans are just stupid anyway to fall for this stuff. I understand themselves. It's just crazy. Honestly, man, like, how are you falling for it? Oh, my God, they're going to kid each other, but they're hugging each other afterwards. Like, I don't know, man. Like I said, maybe I'm different.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yeah, maybe I'm different. Me and Molly are different. I don't know what it is, what people think. But I'm having to change the game soon. Like Khabib said, so about respect, man. You know what I mean? It's about respect. Did you get something from Molly, like when you saw her win?
Starting point is 00:37:04 Like obviously that was earlier in the night. Did you take something from that when you saw her go out there and win? Does that give you a bit of a buzz backstage when you see a person? Kind of, it was a sticky one because when she was on, I was warming up, right? Yes. And then, yeah, I did, but then I went straight into my zones. I didn't really clock it too tough. Like, I think she won, but I was really warming up.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Yes. And it was just, it was a quick one. It wasn't like, I stood there like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, money, well done. I was in my zone. You know what I mean? There was only one way between you guys, right? There was that quick situation.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yeah, one. Yeah, exactly. So when that far was happening, I was living in the zone. I mean, I walked out, I heard her saying, let's go down. Let's go, lad. Let's go, lad. And that's about it. But afterwards, yeah, definitely, we, it was great.
Starting point is 00:37:52 But at the time, her winning now, I didn't really see it too tough. I was in my zone. Yes. I'm happy at the day, you know, the dust has settled now. We've won. We've done it now. People know what it is.
Starting point is 00:38:02 We're not here to mess about. And at the same time, we're not here to mess about in the cage. And outside the cage, we're here to have fun as well, which is what important. That's a great message, man. And I believe you're targeting London next, right, in March. That's where you probably feel as though you deserve a big opponent, right, after taking on this US prospect. You fought a lot of guys across in the US.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Do you feel like it's time to give you a good spot on these UK cards? Of course it is time to give me a spot. But then again, who am I? I mean, to you guys yam someone, but to them, like, they don't care. I call people, I tried a little call that business. I didn't get that. And then, Derron calls me out, he gets it. And then I was on a UK card, yeah?
Starting point is 00:38:43 And then they took me off it and then back on it. So I want to fight in London, but if I don't get, it's not end of the world, I'm just putting it out there. I want to. Would I get it or not? I don't know, you know. It's like they want me to go to the US to try and break me down mentally, but it's not happening.
Starting point is 00:38:59 If anything, you're making me stronger. You are making me stronger in the car. I don't mind hostile territory. But I said if I don't get London, I want somewhere different. I want a sight seat. You know, I want to go. I said even South America. South America or China or Shanghai or something, do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:15 Something different if I don't get London. I'm tired of America now, man. Darren, thank you so much. This has been an amazing, amazing interview for me. Thank you so much for giving us so much after just getting home. Thank you so much. That's what I do. I talk a lot, man.
Starting point is 00:39:31 That's what I do. When I get in the zone, I'll just keep talking. Fantasticly entertaining, though, I have to say. Brilliant. It's great to finally have you on the podcast, and I'm sure we'll have you back on whenever you want to get on again, because this has been very entertaining, my friend. Whenever you're ready, when you're ready.
Starting point is 00:39:46 All right. Well, congratulations. You enjoy the celebrations, my friend. We'll do, man. Not speaking to you. All the best. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And now, after speaking to one of the stars of UFC, Boston, we get to look back on all the things. that happened at UFC Boston and all that kind of fun stuff are you happy about that now deadly can't wait soon Chris Weidman Dana Hoyt says he needs to have a
Starting point is 00:40:13 serious conversation with Chris Weidman about his career on the back of that two minute beat down really he suffered at the hands of Dominic Reyes do you agree do you think that Chris needs to weigh up some things at this day? Yeah I think we even said it before this fight last weekend
Starting point is 00:40:29 I think he's taking some big big knockouts now his career. And, you know, Reyes made bloody short work of him on Saturday night there. And yeah, I'd like to see him seriously have a think about what he's going to do next. Seems pretty happy to stay around from some of his social media posts the last couple of days since the fight. So, you know, I'm not sure where he goes. But yeah, I hope Dana White does have that conversation with him, Peter. Dominic Reyes, has he done enough? Like, I mean, on paper, you would
Starting point is 00:40:57 have thought that would have been the best way he possibly could have went about this getting a quick finish of a former champion. But I got to say, I really don't feel like the buzz has blown me off my feet since Friday night. You know, I don't know if he's done enough to win that John Jones lottery. I agree. I agree. And I think it does go back to the Volcan Osdemeur fight. I think people are maybe realizing that Chris Wyman isn't the power he once was.
Starting point is 00:41:21 So, you know, I like to see him get in there, you know, once more maybe against, you know, someone maybe a little bit more towards the top of the division. and like, you know, I don't know. I think there's problems in this division with obviously the lack of talent we often talk about. So, you know, one more for me. I'm not sure against who. What about Jan Blackovich if he gets through Tiago? I mean, sorry, Jackeret Santos.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'd be happy with that. I really would. And I think Jan has a good chance of getting through Jacaray. Another guy who's maybe, you know, coming on the downward spiral towards the end of his career. And, you know, I do expect Jan to win that fight. just going on, obviously, Jack Ray's last number of performances.
Starting point is 00:42:05 But, yeah, I'd like to see that fight. I do like that match-up. And I think if he was to face the winner of that and beat the winner of that, you know, you can't deny the guy then. But I think one more test definitely because that sort of Vulcan-Ozdemar fight sticks out for me where, you know, I had that fight score for Velcan in London. Yes, yes. Yerreux probably didn't put his best foot forward in Mexico City
Starting point is 00:42:26 when his fight with Jeremy Stevens was stopped after 15 seconds due to an iPop. but he certainly looked fantastic going about his work against Stevens in the Conmain event. And unbelievable that people thought Stevens was trying to look for a way out of that first fight after what he displayed. Yeah, I was pissed off about that when people started tweeting about that. We know what Jeremy Stevens is. He's a warrior. He's a 33-fight UFC veteran. A guy who always brings it, and we saw that on Saturday night.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Obviously came up short, but, you know, what a back-and-forth war. Both guys putting everything on the line. I would have loved to see that fight five rounds. This is what really sort of frustrates me, Pete, you have been going on. on about it again lately. You know, that fight was five rounds two weeks ago. And why is it not five rounds on Saturday night in the Co-Main events spot?
Starting point is 00:43:07 Title ramifications there too. It makes sense. Absolutely, something needs to change in 2020 when we're talking about some Co-Mane events going over five rounds. Greg Hardy, another embarrassing night at the office for him. I mean, do we really want to be in this business anymore? I mean, it's disqualifications,
Starting point is 00:43:28 inhaler gate now. How stupid are his corner those as well? Yeah, oh no, like there's so many people to blame. The commission to blame who are in the cage, Hardy to blame, obviously, himself. And Din Thomas, like one of the most experienced coaches in the game. Like, these guys are all to blame. Shocked, man. And I was just, the minute I even heard it, I was like, what is this guy really think he can take an inhaler between rounds?
Starting point is 00:43:50 Total stupidity, man. You know, I don't know what to think of this. And, you know, it seems to be problem after problem with Greg Hardy. We saw the, you know, obviously the disqualification, a couple of fights back. had a pretty better performance last time out and then we see this on Saturday night like what is the guy doing what are his corner doing what are the commission doing
Starting point is 00:44:08 total fucking mess and yeah I'm getting a bit sick of him now to be honest you I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and now I'm just sort of going Jesus this guy's digging more holes for himself than he is opening so man I don't know
Starting point is 00:44:23 I don't know what you say about this whole situation just a mess and start to finish all right but he's already messed up his UFC run, okay? Like, that's, like, it's not, it's not going to be clean. No matter what happens from now on. Now, we're going to be talking about that inhaler. We're going to be talking about, you know, the disqualification where he just seemed to
Starting point is 00:44:41 not even know the fucking rules of the sport. And now, like, now, like, I mean, at this stage, that's what I was saying, like, put him in there with Cyril, Gann. He, he, he, the only thing he's going to do now is let another person grow off of him. Why not pick someone like Gan who is, looks like a huge star? What about Brad Wharton's shout? Put Aspin all in there against, Heidi for his debut.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I'm up for that. But why not? I mean, at this stage, you've got to use them to pick someone else up, right? Like, I mean, it's not working for Greg Hardy. This has not been a success at all. It's not working. And I'm sure Dana White is getting pissed off of this situation as well. I can't believe that Dana White would be happy with his corner especially and him
Starting point is 00:45:19 having this happen yet again where a fight's just been another mess. So, yeah, maybe they might throw him out and maybe teach him a lesson against one of guys and listen Cyril Gagne I think would make light work of him and I believe Tom Asmala would make light work of them as well so yeah why not do it? It's got to a point now where it's becoming sort of untenable and you know
Starting point is 00:45:41 I want to see that shit happen so yeah Cyril Gagne do it. A fantastic win for Joel O's on absolutely brilliant a man who doesn't quite embrace the emotions as we found out in his post fight. Yeah it doesn't at all. But he absolutely smoked Jonathan Pierce was a voice
Starting point is 00:45:59 violent finish with a half Nelson. Really, really amazing. Is a new star born in Macy Barber? You were tweeting a lot about this over the weekend. I was, yeah, even before the fight. And I think, you know, the shit talk we've heard from her and nine times of ten, she's backed it up. And I think there's been a new set of eyes on her this week
Starting point is 00:46:15 with how well she handled herself. I think with her media duties especially. I was very impressed with the way she was selling the fight and talking shit about probably half the division in the bill up to the fight. And she backed it up, man. You can't really question anything she's done here. She's felt it's done in her career.
Starting point is 00:46:33 She needed to make changes. She made those changes. And I think it reflected on Friday night. And I think, you know, people were calling this fight for a certain degree. It was an early stoppage, but it wasn't. You could see Gillian Robertson not even complain after the referee jumped in and stopped. There was some vicious elbows being landed by her. She's doing everything.
Starting point is 00:46:53 She's saying she's going to do. And she's backing it up. So I love this page, Van Zand fight. I think the call-out was brilliant as well. She's making no bounds about it that she wants page. And, you know, I think she said something about her Instagram followers at the end of the fight. She said, she's going to ruin our Instagram career. That's what she said.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah, listen, man, we need eyes in the sport. We need fighters like this. I don't care of people hate these guys. We need guys like this to generate more of an interest. Exactly. It doesn't matter what you feel once you feel it's something. Exactly. And people are talking.
Starting point is 00:47:24 She's like the Colby Covington to a certain degree of the, women's mixed martial arts at the mountain. She's making a big, big name for herself, man. A lot of people are talking about her after this weekend. And, you know, I was thoroughly impressed her performance as well. I can't, I can't stress that enough, really, really impressive stuff from her. And I'd love to see that fanzant fight. Make it.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Yeah, yeah. Now, I was obviously very impressed with Darren Stewart. We spoke to him earlier. Probably the biggest win of his career, considering Darren wins just as hype, his unbeaten nature before going into the fight. And they talked a lot in the lead-up to the fight as well. So they did really well. also from the UK, Molly McCann, what a performance.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I felt like, you know, a difficult first round, fairly competitive, and then she just manages to kick into another gear if she feels like she's losing around, I feel. She did, and, you know, I think it's the cardio again with Molly. Just looks so impressive, man, the longer the fight went on. And, you know, Molly always starts badly. We always say that, and she did again, to a certain degree on Saturday night there, obviously with the fence grab as well from the Romanian.
Starting point is 00:48:23 but you know, Molly's getting better and better. I think every time we see her and I'm, I think they need to do something with Molly now as well, maybe a level jump in opponent. Obviously, the Lipski win last time out as well. So Molly has gone place. You steadily become a more comfortable in there. I think the nerves really got her on a
Starting point is 00:48:39 UFC debut, but great to see Molly put on a performance like that and great for UK mixed martial arts at the moment. We're falling way behind here in Ireland in terms of our UFC stars in there. It'd be great to have one or two more, but yeah, listen, Molly was great, look great, delighted for great performance. Yeah, other than that, I guess Sean Brady, we got him on as a guest last week.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Big win in fairness against Court McGee. Court McGee, a well-known name inside the UFC. So, I mean, as we spoke about it last week, it was a tough ass straight off the bat. Were you impressed what you saw with Sean? Yeah, no, it was a well-rounding performance. Obviously, you know, hurt court badly at one point. And I think maybe I saw the post-fight interview afterwards, and as Sean said, it was probably the right thing to do
Starting point is 00:49:23 was not to over elaborate and jump on for the finish because he was cautious on his debut so I'm sure that'll go with nerves as he gets one or two fights and do his UFC tenure but yeah listen to get a victory over a guy like Cort McGee
Starting point is 00:49:38 is no mean feat so yeah good debut for the Philadelphia Irishman so yeah good stuff from Sean yeah we'll definitely take them as we said last week we may as well we definitely need as many bodies as we've been possibly get claims. Yeah, I just also thought I mentioned
Starting point is 00:49:54 I believe, is Sean Woodson, right? The sniper. He was an undefeated fighter who also made his debut that night. Didn't get the finish over Kyle Bucknack, but looked really good, really exciting. I felt a really tall guy for that weight division as well. So looking forward to seeing him again.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Just wanted to get your feelings on Bigfoot and Gonzaga because the video went to... But I mean, This guy shouldn't be fighting anywhere. I know. I mean, Jesus, first.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Like, how long are we going to keep talking about this? Like, you know, it's just hard to watch. He shouldn't be fighting anywhere. He should be retired. You know, I don't even know what to say about this. It's just, it just makes me feel very uncomfortable. BKB in general makes me feel very uncomfortable. And I'm just not.
Starting point is 00:50:41 But it's way worse, right? Like when it's not just the sport. It's a guy who has been effectively finished, like in his last. seven fights or some shit, is going to fight bare knuckle. I mean, where's the conscience of this promoter? Like, you know? Again, the promoter, his team, whoever's, you know, backing him, absolutely crazy, you know, clutching to the very finest of straws here.
Starting point is 00:51:04 And these promoters, you know, I think we've talked about this guy at BKB before, you know, when he came in to the ring, a number of events back and said, you know, this wasn't good enough for you're going to get some money taken away because he didn't like the way the fight was panning it. That's the kind of... Horrific. That's the kind of idiots... That was horrific.
Starting point is 00:51:22 You're fucking dealing with here. And, you know, they will never get my money. I'll never tune in. I'll never willingly promote this myself. I know we have to talk about it, but it's something that really doesn't sit well with me. And as you said, there, Pizzi,
Starting point is 00:51:34 to bring guys in who've obviously experienced a lot of head trauma in prior fights by, you know, getting finished. It just doesn't sit well with me. And I think we're knocking on the door of something very serious going to happen in the realms of the mixed martial arts world. Not mixed martial arts, sort of say,
Starting point is 00:51:54 bare knuckle boxing world when things like this are taking place. And we've had a lot of incidents recently, and I think it's the last thing that combat sports world needs at the moment. Couldn't agree more. Couldn't agree more. Very hard to watch that,
Starting point is 00:52:07 I want to say, when I saw it popping up over the weekend. But let's get on to our second interview of the day. It is a man that we have not seen in action for over a year, Mr. Emil Mech. a man who really came into the UFC like a shock of lightning after that Ruzamar Paul Harris
Starting point is 00:52:24 shock win and you know he details a horrible year of injuries with his elbow and he just basically is looking to get back there in 2020 and he's picking a fight with none of than Diego Sanchez so great great to speak to Emil
Starting point is 00:52:40 he's always great crack and great to hear that he's going to be fighting again so we'll leave you with this and we're back in about 15 minutes and for the first time We are finally joined by the Viking himself, Mr. Emil Mick, who we haven't seen an action since the summer of last year where he took on Bartos Fabinski. There was about confirmed for Emil in April of this year,
Starting point is 00:53:05 but unfortunately it never came to be due to injuries he suffered. But maybe, Emil, you could shed a bit more light on that. Where have you been, my friend? The landscape has not been as exciting without you, my friend. Hello man, thanks for Thanks for saying that It means a lot You know
Starting point is 00:53:21 2019 just Just been a shit storm With injuries after Injuries Just a string of fucking bullshit And And now finally We are starting to
Starting point is 00:53:33 To get a control of it To get a hang of it And you know The UFC being cool to me They've been so good And giving me the time To recruit,
Starting point is 00:53:43 recover to be 100% again And so when the fight comes, it will be worth the weight. Yes. You spoke about 2019 being a nightmare. I mean, can you give us some detail on the injuries? I believe I was sent an article a couple of months ago with something to do with your elbow. I think it was from a Norwegian publication or certainly a Scandinavian publication.
Starting point is 00:54:07 And it was meant to be a very, very serious problem you had with your elbow, right? Yeah, that's true. I had the surgery in my left elbow. I dislocated my left shoulder after the Fabinski fight. I have a string of muscle strains and stuff like that. So it's just been crazy, man. Like to say, like misfortune never comes singly. And that's just the way it is.
Starting point is 00:54:36 But my amazing rehab team over at Magnat with Lake and Ingvelli, they helped me out so much and just been on top of the world for me to get through all this. And now, finally, finally I'm starting to feel like my energy is good again. It's a feeling unstoppable and a bit, you know, I'm a bit delusional again. So I think that everything in this world is possible.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And I think you have to be a little bit delusional to be successful in this game. Because no matter where you go and no matter which room you step into, you have to believe that you can beat up every single one. of these guys anywhere at any time at any given day so that's how how delusional you have to be to be successful in this game and and i'm starting to feel feel good about that so i'm starting to feel a little bit delusional that feels good that sounds i never really have that feeling myself but i'll take your word for it was it was it was it very difficult for you to be on the sideline say
Starting point is 00:55:39 like i know how huge you are in um in the nordic regions and then obviously with this big card and openhagen going and all the scandinavian fighters scrambling to be on it like you would have been on that card if you were fit unsure i mean was that a hard one for you to see the buzz being created and then not being able to fight that night yeah it's always a nightmare to uh to sit down the sideline and watch and and that's also the reason why i didn't go over because i didn't feel like uh i told my my teammates because when jack was fighting and and it has a lot of people i knew were fighting and I just told them that I didn't feel like I I deserved to be there. I felt like I had to be home, had to be working, doing my regents, doing my rehab, doing like doing everything perfectly
Starting point is 00:56:26 until I, until I'm back again and I think deserve to, you know, have fun and watch the fights live and stuff like that. Did you go to see it, yes? No, that's what I told you. I'm sorry, I didn't get to the goal because I want to be at home and doing my region, doing my rehab. So I didn't feel like I deserved to be in Denmark, just enjoying the show, you know what I mean? I feel like I have to work harder for it. Well, well. You know, a lot's happened, you know, even in the year since you've gone. And a former opponent of yours, Cameroosman, has become the champion of the division.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Yes, yes. You know, you had a competitive fight with Cameroot. Does that give you confidence? Does that motivate you to see a guy that you had locked horns with climbing to the top of the division? Yeah, man, absolutely. Like, yeah, I remember I saw the fight and I said like, oh shit, I actually did better than Woodley. And that's, of course, it's an amazing, amazing feeling. But at the same time, it's good to get, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:57:35 it's good to get reminded the feeling again yeah like the affirmation confirmation it's good to get the confirmation that you actually belong in the top and that's what I've been thinking all along
Starting point is 00:57:50 that I belong in the very top and I want to be a top 10 fighter I want to be be knifing with the guys in the top and that's why I'm here that's not no we got to the UFC because we wanted to fight with the top dogs not just be a part of it.
Starting point is 00:58:06 We want to be with the very best. And I definitely feel like that's still the case. I just need to do it again. And I know that next time I'll step in and I get my victory. Everything
Starting point is 00:58:22 else will be forgotten. Are you in any way surprised by Usman being the champion or did you get the feeling that's where he was headed after you're in there with him? it's always hard to say but let's be honest
Starting point is 00:58:39 he hasn't lost a single round in the UFC so so I don't know he definitely deserves to be the deserves to be where he is now and I called him up and congratulated him after
Starting point is 00:58:55 after he got the champion and told him that he he fitted that belt very well So I hope, hopefully for him, he will keep that for a little longer. Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, when you've had such a long layoff due to injury, I must ask, did you go into your last fight with Bartos? Were you carrying injuries into that? I know Ferders generally are carrying injuries when they go into fights.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Was that, would you say that was a lesser version of you that got into the Octagon that night? Yeah, I have to be honest. You know, I don't need to be honest, but I want to be honest. and that's probably a fight I should never have taken but I took it I fought like a man I lost like a man and then I just had to suck it up and and live on with the result of that for the rest of my life so I didn't want to bitch out you know none of us wants to do that and yeah I had some I had a lot of issues going into it but it doesn't matter I I did my choice I had a fight I should I beaten in no matter what
Starting point is 01:00:00 no matter what kind of injuries I had I felt like that was a fight I should have beaten him with one arm on my back but I didn't do that that's that night so that's just the way it is I know what an amazing competitor you were like as you said already in this interview like from
Starting point is 01:00:19 the very first time I talked to you after the Paul Harris win you you were talking about competing with the best guys in the world has it hurt has it hurt you to be sitting on that loss for such a long time because of these injuries, has that been really wrecking your head, so to speak? Oh yeah, for sure, man. Like I said, like I said, like, it's nothing, it's nothing that's worse than this situation to do, to be working and working and not producing anything,
Starting point is 01:00:51 no producing of any results. And then being the last thing that will be remembered of you is the last fight you have. And that being that fucking, that, that's, that's, that shit fight of me with Fabinski is, is horrible. And, uh, but luckily for me, like, I hope, hopefully for me, the, my future opponents also, I think that's, that's the version they're going to get. And they will be very, very surprised when I entered the octagon with me again. Yes. I've seen now, there, there is a campaign from your side, and I believe you have tweeted that Diego Sanchez has already accepted a fight with you. Why, Diego, and I mean, do you feel as though this is on the cusp of happening?
Starting point is 01:01:36 Yeah, man, Diego is down to Chohans. I'm not sure. He will probably fight anyone at any time in any way to division. He's that guy, man. He's such a legend and such a crazy guy. But I got his attention now. I think it's a good fight for me to make, and it's a good fight for him to make.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And I think it's a good fight for the UFC to make. So I think all of this will make very much sense for us to square off. It's a fan favorite from the beginning. Sorry, go ahead. I was just wondering when I'm thinking about this fight, I'm thinking about you and what an entertainer you were. And I'm thinking about you two guys, very violent men being put in a cage together.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Do you feel like this is the most dramatic way to kind of reintroduce you? yourself to the UFC audience. Yeah, man, that would be the best. That would be my fantastic fight for me to get. And just, I know that everybody wants to see me
Starting point is 01:02:38 against not a wrestler. And to be honest, to be honest, I could easily fight wrestlers now. I've been working so hard with my wrestling and all that stuff, but let's be honest, this is the funniest
Starting point is 01:02:54 part of fighting. That's two guys just going out of it and it's a fist fight and the best man is going to win it and then the toughest man is going to win it so uh to be too for me like yeah my my bucket list is is getting shorter and shorter for every time i compete you know and i think i have like three or four four four things left and it's of course the ufc belt and uh being on the joe rogan podcast and then having an open workout and then now also go toe to toe to top with a legend in the UFC Octagon. Wow.
Starting point is 01:03:29 So this is a milestone moment for you. This is a bucket list situation nearly. Yeah, it is definitely. You know, this is the guy, like, he won the Ultimate Fighter season one. That's who it is, you know what I mean? He's such a legend, man. And, you know, and of course you've been following the sport, probably the long as I have even.
Starting point is 01:03:48 But so you know what I'm talking about. But for the new guys that, you know, come with the Conner-McGregor era or whatever it was, It's, no, that's the guy that I want to fight. Like, this super legend. Is there pressure on you going into this fight if they do make this fight, like given that you have two losses on the bounce? Like, do you feel that?
Starting point is 01:04:09 Do you feel like winning is your only option, no matter who your next opponent is? Yeah, of course. I know that the UFC, they like me and we are in good terms, but the sport is about winning and not just get the crowd going, which is good too. But, yeah, I need to win this one. And I love it. I love the feeling that everything is on the line because that's when I perform the best.
Starting point is 01:04:46 And I feel now more than ever that, well, this is what I want to do. Now I had almost, you know, almost two years or one and a half year, being out of the game, knowing how much I miss it, knowing how much I miss just, you know, being there, being in the UFC, being present in the media with you guys, like all this stuff. I love it. This is my favorite part. So to just be able to once again, like, put everything on the line and just go out. out there and do my best and that's that's the stuff i really love you you believe that you'll
Starting point is 01:05:29 be ready to go by 2020 is that correct you want to do this in early 2020 is there still so much of rehab you need to do uh we we're doing everything we can now and and everything is going very well and i'm working hard with my team at front line with the coaches there and especially working hard with with my boxing and striking to sharpen up the tools for Diego and I think in January
Starting point is 01:06:02 I'll be ready January I'll be ready to kick a kick start this year for the UFC and be hopefully be active in the entire year have three or four fights
Starting point is 01:06:13 that would be the best I really hope it can happen Emil and thank you so much for getting on to speak with us we've missed you the European fans have been asking for you and at least we know we can tell them now. 2020 is when we're going to see you back.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Yes, sir. Brilliant. That's true. I hope we get this Diego Sanchez-Foyt made. I'm sure a lot of people will be very excited about that. And thank you again, Emil. It really means a lot of me. I have definitely one of the best management in the business with the face-to-face and Pemelan.
Starting point is 01:06:43 So I know he will work his magic to get this true. Amazing, amazing, Emil. Great to speak to you again, my friend. Thanks, man. I appreciate it, brother. All the best. you soon. All right.
Starting point is 01:06:55 See you well. Bye, bye. Great to speak to Emil Mech. Looking forward to seeing him back in 2020 and certainly hope he gets what he is looking for with that Diego Sanchez fight. Let's have a look at what's going
Starting point is 01:07:10 on this weekend, Noel. It's going to be a busy one, my friend. Too much. Too much. Yeah, there is pretty much too much. I will agree with you on that one. So obviously, Singapore. It's going to be an early start though, right?
Starting point is 01:07:22 That's what that usually means if it's in Asia. right? We're going to have an early card this weekend because it's Singapore. I think the main card is 10am, if I'm not mistaken. Double check that if anyone's listening. I think it is the main card starts at 10 a.m. local time here in Ireland. So, yes, it will be. Amazing. An early one. Indeed, Mr. Carroll. That's quality. That's quality.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Damien Maya v. Ben Ascran. I don't think this one's going to be a crowd pleaser in the sense of casual audiences, but I can see grappling nerds getting very excited about it. Yeah. I'm just not excited about it at all. In terms of a spectacle, I'm not, I'm not going to like to, you know, we've obviously, you know, a jih Tzi guy, obviously, you know, so decorated in Demi and Maya, we've been asked when a great wrestler. You know, you'd probably have to give the stand-up advantage to Demi and Maya from what we've seen and what we know of Demi and Maya over the years vastly improved on that aspect. Ben Ascran, you know, as we've sort of said over the years,
Starting point is 01:08:22 you know, is he really as good as he's being perceived to be over the years? I'm not so sure. And I think this can be very, very interesting solacea match, but probably not one for the, forget the bulls is raising be it. Yes, yes, no, indeed. And Michael Johnson, Stevie Ray should make up for that, though. I do expect that to be a corker of a fight. I love it, man.
Starting point is 01:08:44 When is Michael Johnson ever and above fight? In fairness, you know. Yeah, that's true. Crack and fight, really solid boxing, good wrestler. we know what Stevie can do as well let's be honest to Stevie he's always in either a controversial fight or a really really good fight so I'm looking forward to that one as well
Starting point is 01:08:59 I'm a little bit surprised Stevie's on the co-main event here I'm not going to you know I like Steve a good do but you know maybe it's a you know it's a bit of a strange one to have that car that fight where it is but listen it's a big big fight for Stevie he's lost three of his last
Starting point is 01:09:15 four as well with the promotion so yeah listen I like that one I probably think that's going to steal the show and I'm sorry morning. Yeah, absolutely. Cyril Ghan, obviously back against Dantale and Mays. I'm very excited about that, Benid Darius, against Frank Camacho,
Starting point is 01:09:30 who really had his coming out party there in Stockholm, very this year. So really, really should be a fun fight there. Muslim Salakoff is, of course, the Sanda champion, who had a vicious knockout there at the Abu Dhabi show at 242. So I'm looking forward to see him take on Loreno Star Pauly. And that's pretty much it. Mavsar Ivovloviev
Starting point is 01:09:51 undefeated obviously 11 and 0 144 were taken on Enrique Barzola and Sergey Pavlovich against Maurice Green in the heavyweight division as well rounding off the European action there is Alexandra Albu who takes on Loma Look Boone Me
Starting point is 01:10:07 I've probably murdered that name but what are you going to do about it? Boney yeah I think you got it right nails yeah why not sure I'm really looking forward to Cage Warriors on Saturday night and probably even more so now because the the USC event is on earlier you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:10:25 like I feel like that's a good move that's a good thing for KJors because people will still want that MMA fix later on the day I imagine you know yeah and I think the fact if you look Joy Herbert as well you know statements obviously in his last fight he is the champ and I think people are very very excited to see where this guy can go you know he's shown phenomenal resolve in his last couple of fights
Starting point is 01:10:46 and no more so then as well last outing when he won that world title. So listen Joe, he's ever improving and it's a fight. I'm very much looking forward to seeing as well. And obviously Dean Truman co-main and there are some really, really good fights as usual from the Cage Warriors crew. Yeah, I love
Starting point is 01:11:03 Truman v. Charier. And again, I have just been blown away by Charier's fan base. I mean, look at the fucking tweets. Everything they put out about him has been absolutely unbelievable, man. The attraction it's getting Shari is a huge name in France. And look, he impressed me,
Starting point is 01:11:18 especially in his debut against Saren back when he was drafted in a week's notice and he gave back one of the hardest fights of his life. Ong. Ong himself, yes. And look, there's lots of good fights in this Brian Boulan v. Chris Moyer, I'd say the winner of that fight will probably go on
Starting point is 01:11:33 and fight the newly crowned champ, Cartwright. And, you know, Perry Goodwin, a man who fought Reese McKin his last fight at 55. Perry's dropping down to 1.45, so that should be absolutely insane to see him that low. He's a big dude of 45, man. That's a good.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And a fantastic mustache, as we pointed out before. Not as good as my old one, but yeah, it's pretty decent. But listen, I'm excited about the French. I think, man, I think next year is going to be mental for France, for French MMA, you know, with the legalization there. It's going to be amazing, man. I think we're really going to be spoiled by some of the fighters we're going to see on the big show next year. And I think it is going to propel a lot of guys into the UFC.
Starting point is 01:12:09 And boom, can't wait for that shit, man. Paris, UFC, Paris. How good does that sound? Bava, boom. Vavavum. Let's, Bellator are putting on two fights back to back on, Freud A-Noy. Can we stop doing this?
Starting point is 01:12:23 Why? This is a thing we did five years ago. We're still, Bellator is still doing it? Fucking hell, but wait, hang on, are you telling me you're not excited for Frank Mirr versus Roy Nelson too?
Starting point is 01:12:31 I'd rather watch Barney and that his other mate scrap each other. You know what I mean? Like, it's, fuck me, man. It's just too much. It really is. Like, you know, we're talking about,
Starting point is 01:12:39 you know, Gonzaga and Bigfooter, and this isn't too far away from that either. Let's be honest about it. Like, come on. Fucking hell. Give me a break, lots. A bit of a baptism of fire for Carl Elbrexton under the Bellator banner man. Phil Davis, are you fucking joking me, lads?
Starting point is 01:12:54 Take down, wrestle, take down, wrestle. Oh, fuck that shit. I mean, Albrex's a good wrestler himself, but I mean, Jesus Christ, like, like, Phil Davis is knocking on the door of a toilet job. Like, you know, he's permanently knocking on the door of a toilet shot. And that's where you're putting the guy against. That is fucking hard, car. It is. It is.
Starting point is 01:13:10 It is tough. I feel sorry for the deal. I can't see that working out as well. You know, Phil is really good, man. he's just solid and obviously he's tried against Ryan Bader hasn't got over the line there but you know I'm looking forward to
Starting point is 01:13:22 to seeing Phil Day I'd love to see Phil just evolve a little bit more though do you ever get that feeling out he frustrates me sometimes I think yeah yeah I think yeah yeah no I agree with you yeah I get you
Starting point is 01:13:33 some of his fights certainly haven't set the world on fire some other good fights there Ed Rood versus Jason Jackson Beck Rawlings taking on Larry Joanne and of course one of our favorites
Starting point is 01:13:45 Jack Hager Jake Hager whatever Jack Swagger whatever his name is yeah he's actually fighting a guy that's in shape
Starting point is 01:13:52 this time so that's interesting yeah listen he you know obviously he's a wrestling background amateur wrestling um you know
Starting point is 01:14:00 he wasn't too bad in his last fight I know he didn't fight anyone he fought a guy that was you know fiercely overweight and
Starting point is 01:14:05 and just made waste the heavyweight limit of 265 so yeah I hopefully I'll get a better test this time but um
Starting point is 01:14:13 who fucking knows knows, to be honest, you mate. Who knows? I'm looking at topology here and it looks like his opponent Anthony Garrett has testicles implanted in his shoulders. That picture is absolutely horrific. Yeah, it looks like he's something grown out of his fucking
Starting point is 01:14:30 his fucking pressure points on his shoulders there. It's pretty disgusting. Needs acupuncture or something there man, that's fucking rotten. Look a bit swollen maybe you should go see a physio. You need to get it. You need to get rub down mate. I think you got stung by a bee, Pizzi. What do you're Mosquito bites.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Also from a European perspective, big up to Lucas Pimenta, who I know absolutely nothing about, who's taken on Tim Karen. Come on, Portugal, you can do it. Let's move on to the next card. Rory MacDonald v. Lima, too. I feel like this is going to be a very different fight. I am definitely favouring Douglas Lima going into this one. How do you feel about that?
Starting point is 01:15:09 Agreed. I think what we saw from Lima, obviously last time out, you know, really impressive. And I think, you know, we've talked about this from Rory, man. Like there's just something lacking there with Rory at the moment and his last number of fights. Real sort of motivation.
Starting point is 01:15:24 And I think when a fighter starts questioning that, whether, you know, he's fully committed to it anymore. I think he's fang God as well, if I'm not mistaken. And, you know, it just really sort of seems to me as, you know, does Rory really want it anymore? I'm not so sure. He's been around since he was, what,
Starting point is 01:15:41 15 years of age fighting pro, 16, whatever. it was. So, you know, I just think Rory's run out of gas here, run out of steam, run out of competitive desire to really compete at the top level. I think Douglas Lima, from what we've seen of them in the last number of fights, is a guy who's really sort of building some momentum here and, you know, that win over Michael Venom Page and Andre Carshikov as well, obviously a former champion, is real momentum. And I think, you know, he might well avenge that loss to Rory McDonald's back, I think it was 18 months ago, whenever it was. And I think we're going to see it's very, very different performance here.
Starting point is 01:16:16 And I think momentum is key. And I do actually fancy Douglas seem to potentially even finish this fight, man. I do. Well, there's the, in the common event, it's the reason why we didn't get Paul Daly v. Roberto Solich. It's Paul Daly v. Sabah Hamasi. There you go. Chris Lensione, a man who's called out James Galler. Not that that's a big thing.
Starting point is 01:16:34 You could just literally throw a stick anywhere near Bellator, and you're going to hit a few lads who have called out James Galaher. But Ruben Van Rousmoil in the kickboxer at 145. so that would be a big win if he was to get that. Nick Newell back in action against Mani Morrow, Vitaly Minicoff, a guy who I'm very fond of taking on Javier Ayala. And Patrick Mix, a man who submitted Ricky Bandejas, sharp as will take on Isaiah Chapman. So I think that's probably the better of the two cards, I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Easily, man, easily. As you said there, you know, Patrick Mix, we were really impressed with his last outing of Vitali Minniko, who's obviously been around Belichael. I feel like they have the right amount of number of fights on this card. Usually you have about 70, million fights and like this feels like a shorter one than their usual 20 odd fight
Starting point is 01:17:17 efforts you know they do but it's not full of dinosaurs yeah yeah it's a better card outside of the obvious Frank Mirvy Roy Nelson too which I know you're staying up really late to watch yeah I'll be up online will not much better fight card there's a
Starting point is 01:17:34 mix of young talent guys we know and you know it's good to see that they're finally sort of maybe fucking coping on and and giving a few of these guys a platform. They're up and coming guys. So, yeah, listen, I'm looking forward to this one. And I'm very excited about Patrick Mix.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Very excited. Well, that's the end of our fighting. Let's make way for some talking brown, as we like to do at the end of these shows. Will I start off with my near mugging experience on Wednesday? Yeah, what happened? Who did you? Like, I've obviously heard your side of the story.
Starting point is 01:18:04 I've reached out to a few sources. I can't confirm. No, what the fuck happened, man? You were in a bad way. I was worried about you when I saw that tweet I got straight on to you on WhatsApp. Your face took some pasting. Yeah, it did, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:18 That's like not the first time this has happened either. And actually not the first time it's actually happened in the exact area that happened the other night. I had some bad news early Wednesday. It was my first day off in a few weeks. So I went down. I meet my friend for some early points
Starting point is 01:18:32 on my way home then and about, you know, we don't know what time it was. You know, we're on our way home anyway. I was listening to the music. had the headphones on walking down an alley and then um got a just as i'm walking so i can see there's no one around me next of all just bang i'm on the deck i got a smack of something on the right hand side you'll see the picture the the big area there is is the initial here where someone just smacked me with something probably or else it was a ring and then basically
Starting point is 01:19:01 the monster remember i think there was there was like three or four um not too sure on that to be honest because like i basically i'm aware i'm in a situation then as i hit the ground and these lads are kicking me, you know, so I'm getting kicked in the face a few times with me.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Chin is the sorrest part actually. I just got booted right in the fucking mouth. Oh, Jesus. So,
Starting point is 01:19:18 um, we can confirm it. We can confirm it wasn't a lane then. No, not this time. But, uh,
Starting point is 01:19:25 we got back to my feet while I'm getting booted around and stuff. And then, like, I threw punches, but I don't know if you even hit anyone
Starting point is 01:19:31 because my hands are in good nick. Like, there's nothing wrong with my hands. So I probably missed on every fucking punch right through. Yeah, man, it's not nice. It's not nice.
Starting point is 01:19:39 It happened to me a few times. But I managed to get free then. I felt like someone was holding on to me. I didn't really know what was going on. I got free from them. And I just ran across the road and it was all over very quickly. But yeah, obviously I just wanted to get the fuck out of Dodge. Because the last time that happened, the guys had noives on them.
Starting point is 01:19:54 I actually got slashed behind the ear. And that was about six years ago. So, I mean, I feel like they were just trying to get my headphones. There was big stupid beats by Dre that I wear. So I probably shouldn't wear them at nighttime in dodgy areas. So a bit my fault on that one But yeah You know no harm no foul
Starting point is 01:20:13 I kept everything they didn't get anything off me And obviously my face took a bit of a paste and but As I said last time with the knives and stuff like that That was a really traumatic one So yeah it was glad and even like you know That's that that was it actually feel really good The next day after it ride I didn't feel bad I can remember when I got robbed that last time with the knives and stuff
Starting point is 01:20:33 It feels horrible when they get something off you You know what I mean But I even came back with my fucking curry after this one. So fuck them. Take the little at what they try to do. Be better the next time. You're fucking idiots.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Yeah, no, I've said this. We've talked about this as well. Dublin's turning to their awful shit hell, man. You know, all over the place. This is stuff going on in, you know, in town. Sort of escalated even from where it was 10 years ago.
Starting point is 01:20:54 It's just getting disgusting, man. It's getting disgusting. It's getting disgusting. It's, you know, I don't feel safe in Dublin anymore. You know, some areas you walk into and, you know, years ago, you'd feel grand. You wouldn't be water. But, you know, and I compared to other cities ago, It was obviously, you know, in Palma a few weeks ago,
Starting point is 01:21:09 felt safe as a breeze there. You know, Porto a few, a few months ago as well. And you feel safe, you know, Prague. You never feel really as much intimidated as you do with thinking certain parts of Dublin. It's a shame. It really is a shame. These fucking scumbags, man, it pisses me off.
Starting point is 01:21:24 I won't change a thing about what happened because of what happened there. Like, I'm walking down that same street the next night with them fucking headphones on me. Like, I mean, the only reason why these guys came near me is because they thought they, they blinds out me like they did. They saw that I was probably. had a few on me. It looked like an easy target.
Starting point is 01:21:40 And as soon as I stood back up, they were gone. Like, I mean, there are absolute cowards. So, I mean, I can remember,
Starting point is 01:21:46 like, Brian was on to me. He was like, oh, did you get the report to the guards? And I was like, dude, last time I got slashed on the back of the fucking head. And they didn't take a report.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Yeah. Like, what is the situation here? I got a few punches. Like, they don't give a shit about that, man. They literally don't give up for them.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Yeah, you're wasting your time in many cases, you know, reaching out to the guardy. Yeah, I lost a lot of respect for the guardie after that last incident. No, no, I'm not, I really did. No, no, yeah, no, you know, I've dealt with them as well over, over the years.
Starting point is 01:22:13 And yeah, yeah, I sort of definitely agree with you on that one, definitely. On to a more positive note, them guys, New Zealand are really good at rugby, aren't they? My word. Yeah, I think, yeah. Was that frustrating for you to watch? Because it was restraint for me to watch, and I don't even give you a shit about it. And then the game was over after 20 minutes. It really was simple as that Ireland were crop.
Starting point is 01:22:35 New Zealand were excellent and I think it was a mixture of that Ireland had to be playing at 100% and there was so many little silly errors and I think the really impressive thing with New Zealand is if you make a little error they'll expose you and they'll punish you and that's exactly what they did.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Ireland were poor but New Zealand were just clinical, fantastic pace of their game is unbelievable and sometimes it doesn't come across on TV like I've played rugby down there for a number of months when I was younger and it's just even the two games from the style of game we play here
Starting point is 01:23:03 to the style of game they play there it's ruck recycle rock recycle ball out ball out it's just such a quick fast epic heart wrenching physical game they play and I think you know
Starting point is 01:23:15 there's going to be um listen I think England might give them a go because England is so physical but I can't really see past New Zealand at the moment I think that was a phenomenal performance hands up well done well done New Zealand Ireland or shit
Starting point is 01:23:27 but I think we're looking at the world champions again and like like I mean I people blowing smoke up our asses like I feel like every time we go with one of these World Cups, everyone's like, oh, we're one of the strongest teams in it
Starting point is 01:23:39 and then like, we're shit, like, you know? So what is going on there? Is it just getting smoke blown up our arses? Yeah, I think so, to a certain extent. Yeah, like, man, we, we overanalyze everything in this country in terms of rugby reporting. It's, it's quite embarrassing, really.
Starting point is 01:23:54 There's all these new terms they make up and, you know, the breakdown is a big fucking analytical point. And it's just a lot of trash talk. a lot of the time and yeah I think you know really we peaked probably a year and a half ago
Starting point is 01:24:09 and listen realistically we were never going to win the World Cup coming into it I never really bought into that talk and I thought semi-final at best and ultimately if you look back at it it's probably a failure and I know Joe Smith
Starting point is 01:24:22 like he's done great job obviously definitely a failure no there's no there's no probably about it lost the Japan and the fucking group pages do we know the World Cup's been a total failure yeah I think you know that when Joe came in
Starting point is 01:24:32 I think the ultimate goal was aiming towards this World Cup and we've got knocked out in the quarter final again and you know you have to respect him he's won whatever two grand championships and one grand slam for Ireland
Starting point is 01:24:45 which is absolutely amazing but ultimately I think you know the target was the semi-final the World Cup and you know we do thank Joe for what he's done for Irish Rugby and but again you know it's a major major disappointment and yeah we didn't reach
Starting point is 01:25:00 probably the ceiling where we would have gone at one I've gone and I think that was at least a semi-final so yeah it probably is a failure and what about all of those fans jumping around as we're getting absolutely trottled out on the field I didn't like that one bit my friend yeah yeah like
Starting point is 01:25:15 I mean what is you gone yeah I was the gone briefly again there yeah I was the gone briefly again there yeah but I'm back now um yeah like I mean it's just so strange to me I don't I don't understand it like obviously Joe Schmidt burying his hat head like I mean just that that clip I believe
Starting point is 01:25:34 when McKenna tweeted out, he's like, like, they've put the camera on Schmidt and he's obviously in the crowd there. And he's, he's obviously lamenting this terrible, terrible defeat that he's suffering at the hands of New Zealand. And in the background, people are jumping up and down as if we're winning the World Cup. Yeah, it's just all the green jerseys and all. It's, yeah, I think it is. It's something maybe with Irish sports. And I think, again, we can, you know, it's probably back to the more positive days of Connor McGregor. You know, Connor was sort of, and Roy Keene, I always say this, you know, they're,
Starting point is 01:26:04 the first guys that said, you know, fuck it, but, you know, why are we underdogs? Why do we, why do we accept that mentality of, of being an underdog? And I think maybe we've reverted back to that with some of our rugby fans, because, you know, there is sort of that mentality amongst the Irish sporting fans still,
Starting point is 01:26:20 that we should be an underdog. And I, I can never accept that, and I'll never get on board with that. And it was sort of, you know, oh, it was sort of celebrating Joe's whole career, not the moment in time. And we should be very, very upset about what we saw on Saturday because it just wasn't good enough
Starting point is 01:26:34 from where we've been, being and the pinnacles we've seen from this team. Disappointing stuff and I don't really get that mentality pizza at all. Good, because I don't either. Did your weekend pick up a bit yesterday when United held Liverpool to a draw and upset their winning run?
Starting point is 01:26:51 It did. It was great. You know, I wasn't expecting it. You know, I was just really excited to see the players actually put in a fucking performance and run. I was just excited to see the graph. the grit, the willingness, the determination that probably we haven't seen in the last six to seven
Starting point is 01:27:08 months. And it was great to see that. And I think they actually probably deserved to win, Pizzi. Obviously, unexperienced team, a young team, probably a team lacking in a lot of quality. A shoy team, would you say? Yeah, probably a shoy team. But it was.
Starting point is 01:27:24 It was encouraging, man. And I think if they put in performances like that and they run like that, they show that desire, they're going to win a lot more games this season. Probably finish outside the top tens still in my opinion, but excited. I was just happy to see them play for the shirt again. I think that's the main thing I took from yesterday.
Starting point is 01:27:39 And listen, fuck Liverpool. I hate them. At the end of the day. But no, listen, we're unlucky not to get the win, but listen, I would have taken a draw before kickoff. So, you know, I can't really complain too much. It did. It turned my spirits around a little bit, definitely.
Starting point is 01:27:54 Good. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, I'm a Wales fan now, as I promised Jack Shaw would be after Erland went out. So, I mean, we're doing great. have our boat Alex Corbs though as well like it's a bit of a do we want to support
Starting point is 01:28:06 Is it England v Wales? No, it's England New Zealand Right, who are we playing next? Wales Us That's who I Yeah, Wales Wales are playing South Africa
Starting point is 01:28:17 So I don't like Wales chances I do I think we're going to fucking throttle them If I'm going to be completely honest about you Just like we did With the French You know what I mean I feel like we destroyed them
Starting point is 01:28:29 And we're going to destroy South Africa And that's just the way those Welsh people are. I just have a feeling the English are going to win it, you know, do you know, Wales are going to
Starting point is 01:28:37 win it? I think, I think they're going to beat New Zealand's. Oh, yeah, we'll never hear the end of it if they do, but,
Starting point is 01:28:44 I just think they're, I think they're such a physical team that they're going to be able to grind them out and smother them and suffocate them. I don't know, man, it's worrying.
Starting point is 01:28:51 It's worrying times here. Have you been watching Dublin murders? It's fantastic. No. It's brilliant. You should watch it. Yeah, really good.
Starting point is 01:29:00 I watched the first two. two episodes of a 30 or night. Really, really good. I just want to get out Ireland. I'm sick of it. I hate it. Yeah. It's crap.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Yeah, I'm getting like that myself. Also, here's another little bit of news that I saw yesterday that I think you might like. Do you remember that big deal that Bellator made about signing James Haskell? What, have they cancelled it? No, they haven't cancelled it, but the fucker is going to be an I'm a celebrity, get me out of here, I think. Ah, here. So he's not going to fight for another 12 months? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:26 I saw Sean, she and a good friend over at Severum May there, tweeting about it last night. Jesus. So it's just like, Jesus Christ, man. Like, I mean, you're going to, like, you're, like, you're saying for Bellator and then you go on to, I'm a celebrity, get me out here. Is it a stroke of genius that, like, obviously this guy will become a bigger name than he already is? Well, it could be a good thing for Bellator. He could, like, go in there. Oh, you know, I'm fighting in Bellator go on about it the whole time and people are probably to tune in more.
Starting point is 01:29:51 You know? Yeah. Be more people. It could be a good PR stunt. Yeah, actually, Sean has tweeted that Belator's James Haskell is one of the favorites to do the I'm a celebrity TV show. Yeah, but the odds maker is always on the end. inside now they obviously have a have an idea who people are looking at so it's probably likely it's going to happen right probably likely um yeah but listen if it puts more as eyes on on bellatory
Starting point is 01:30:11 suppose it's a good thing really isn't it i guess so i guess so but um yeah i guess that's everything we have then for this week uh i should be back over on the south side for next week and i just couldn't get the car um this week so i mean my face will should be fully recovered for next week anyway so at least you'll be able to gaze into my beautiful eyes again Oh no I fucking stay over there with you Fuck you don't Don't want you back over this side
Starting point is 01:30:36 Fucking The floors be rotten after you leave here Oh my Jesus Just to let you know He's want to put a bet on James Haskell He's at one to two at the moment To be in the house So well yeah
Starting point is 01:30:48 He's gone to the house The jungle Yeah he's going to the fucking thing But yeah That's the crack anyway lads Love his loads Thanks very much for listening And we'll be back in
Starting point is 01:30:59 The same room next week we should say.

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