MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 58 (w/ Ciryl Gane, Jai Herbert)

Episode Date: October 29, 2019

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Ciryl Gane (29:00) reveals his hopes to fight one more time before the end of 2019 and Jai Herbert (1:04:00) discusses his viral knee knockout at Cage Warriors 109 and his proximity to a UFC contract. Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath look at the latest European news headlines. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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How are you feeling over there, me? Those energy today. Eurobash 58, 58, amazing, amazing. stuff. It's a bank holiday weekend, but we don't take no goddamn holidays. That's what we do here. How are you? Tell me all about your weekend.

Shit. Not a lot of places to go with that. I don't want to talk today. All right. I was good, man. No, it was good. It was good. Lots too much mixed martial arts on. Too much sport on. Fet up a sport. I want it all to end.

And just people, stop playing sport, people. Don't participate in anything that's going to be good for your life. just drink and just have a great time. That's it. That sounded voice, I must say. I was out celebrating the lovely Alliance Slaters. Happy birthday, Elaine.

This weekend. So I'm glad we are later on in the weekend because it was pretty bad on Saturday morning to say at least. I had to wake up and watch all of that lovely UFC Singapore card. But it was good crack. Oh, what a morning of sports. It was decent, wasn't it? It was. All you didn't leave the TV doing 8 o'clock in the evening.

Oh, yeah. I brought home two slices of De Fontaine's pizza. You know how much that means to me. Yeah, it's good. And, you know, I'm back in with the rents as we say for this mortgage. And what did me, Maddie? Woke up through this. True, it straight.

Oh, I nearly fucking in tears. So I didn't eat all morning. Watch the singing board cards. So that finished up before. And I'm as, like, come out of the office, like, oh, what's the crack? And she's like, oh, how's it going? And I was like, yeah, I'm just going to go down and stick on this pizza now. And she's like, oh, did you want to keep that, did you?

And I was like, what? She's like, yeah. just put it in the bin there. I was like, are you? Oh, no. I was like, what bin?

I will take it out of the bin if it's still in the box. She's like, no, I put the pizza. Yeah, I got pepperoni and cheese. It was... That's heartbreaking.

It is, especially when you... When I've taught in advance... Skulled, drunk and I was like, I'm going to get pizza that I can eat tomorrow as the fights.

In my break between UFC and Cage Warriors, but alas it was gone. I got up for the Ruby. England and New Zealand. And what did I say last week? Excuse me? Did I say England?

Strangle, New Zealand, the life out of them. It happened. It happened. But then you got up, watch that, then straight on to the UFC. Straight on to the UFC, then straight onto the football.

I watched football on Friday night as well. After I came home. And it was 9-0. Oh, yeah, I did see that, yeah. I believe Ben Fokes was actually at the match from, is Ben with the Atlantic now, I think? Yeah, yeah, that's right. And I think Ben was at the Southampton last year.

He's been over on holidays it's on his Instagram. Savage. Good one to pick, 9-0, 5-0 a half time. As rare as a hens too, that score a line. so I mean. Listen, it was good weekends. It was a nightmare getting to work yesterday. I was working.

Marathon on here in Dublin. Oh, fuck that. Shit house, man. It actually took me an hour and a half to get in because I totally forgot the marathon was on. I always do that. Like, I always go to the Phoenix Park on the day. There's a big run on or something.

I got for fuck sake. Yeah. Why did you just do it in the fucking Phoenix Park, idiots? Do it at your back garden? Yeah, exactly. Run through the halls of your apartment block. All right, just don't do it. Yeah, just come on.

Stay at home. Put on a few pounds. Don't do it. Exactly. Eat shit. Stop fat shaming me. All right. Okay, well, let's kick it on.

Let's do this, Mofo News. This is number one bullshit. Connor McGregor announces January, his return on January 18th. UFC seemed to think that's what's happening. Junior DeSantis is out of his main event in Moscow against Volkov. Greg Hardy has stepped in to replace DeSantis. Peter Yanvi, Eurio Fabor will meet at UFC 245. Leon Edwards has said that UFC had offered him v. Woodley for the co-main of

Gregor's return. Joy Herbert retains his Cage Warrior's lightweight title with a sublime showing. We should be able to hear from Joy a little bit later. And Saladin Pernas will meet Ivan Butchinger for the first defense of his interim federalweight title, a KSW 52 on December 7th, which is already going to be headlined by Scott Ascombe v. Mamad Kalladoff, a big one. And just finally, congratulations to friend of the show, Ben Cartlidge for being a drafted across the war to officiate both Bellator events over the weekend. And, you know, it's a big non-year-old. nod to how far the European scene has come and now Ben leading the line just as Mark Goddard has with the referee and stuff but from a judging perspective so congratulations to Ben.

Yeah, well done, Ben. Let's take a look back through a few of these. The January 18th return, we kind of said that, didn't we? For a long time this year we've been saying it's going to be early 2020 when we see Connor, not all that surprise about that announcement. Nah, not at all. And yeah, I just think it's about time we said last week. It was at our time to get shit. I got off the pot. So we've, He's obviously decided to have a shit. And no, it's good to see him back in there. It looks very focused on a, you know,

baldy move to go over to Moscow and talk some shit about the people and the guys. We will talk a bit about that later, yes. Really sort of get the Russian interest, spark. And so looking forward to seeing him back in there and seeing what he's going to bring. But I think we'll learn a lot of answers in January. Dos Santos out of that main event against Volkov. Greg Hardy gets the opportunity to step in. I mean, I know he probably adds a lot to the event from a name point of view,

but I mean, this is mental. They're trying to protect him with everything all the way up to this point. And now they're putting him against an elite heavyweight. It's ridiculous. Why is he getting that opportunity? No, it's crazy. He doesn't know what to do in a fight. It's basically at this stage.

It's crazy. It's really interesting. And I was pretty pissed off when I saw it, especially after what happens. Obviously, with the inhaler. And then before, and obviously, as we talked about there, we had the illegal blow. Like, why are the UFC rewarding this guy? with a main event slot and potentially it's going to go fucking tits up

for them again because two of us pro fights have gone tits up so you're telling me in Moscow credit's going to react well if a fucking fight ends like that with them already knowing Hardy's past history of messing up fights absolutely ludicrous in the UFC and it sets a pretty fucked up precedent from the promotion to do things like this

they should not hesitate to match Greg Hardy with Cyril Gahn regardless of what happens in this fight well you know Tyson Fury fuck it if he's as good as if he's good enough to fight Volkov he's good if he's good enough to fight Volkov, he's good enough to fight Ghan. Peter Yan v. Eroyo Faber.

Last fight, we've been saying for months that Euraya Faber should take. He's got balls like a Bengal tiger. He always has, man. But I don't think it's going to go well from. No, I don't, man. But listen, people wrote off Eurai in his comeback fight.

Very different. I know, it's very different. But still, it still was very impressive. A lot of people. It was. I know it was. I think Eurya was like actually a three-to-one underdog gone into that fight.

That's how, you know, the bookmakers looking at that. But yeah, listen, Peter Jan is, an explosive beast of a character who obviously likes you a lot of uh he didn't he didn't threaten my life in the last interview on the one before and the one before and the one before um so no listen it is you got to you got to just put your hands up to your eye favor he's done at his whole career man he's he's he's you know he's never turned in a fight he faced fucking dominant cruise head on he

faced you know anyone who's ever coming at him head on and uh you know he is a pioneer for the sport and yeah i don't think it's gonna be a nice night for him but i'm really looking for that It's a really, really good test for Peter Yan as well. I love Leon Edwards versus Tyrone Woodley. Look, he's got kind of pushed out of the title conversation. He's got pushed out of the Mazvedal conversation. That's the fight that you want if you are Leon Edwards. And if it was happening in January as well, he gets a win there

or Woodley gets a win there, and then there's a whole new conversation started based on what's happened in these last two fights with Masvedal Diaz and obviously Cameron Roseman and Colby Covington. Yeah, no, it is. It's an opponent that's wordy, right? 100%. It puts him right up there and like if he is to get this win and if he was to beat Tyron Woodley. And I think like in terms of his last number of matches, it's actually a fucking good matchup for Leon Edwards. And he's made the right decision as far as I'm concerned by coming out and saying it even though there's nothing signed yet just to let people know.

Because Tyron Woodley has turned down a lot of fights in the past. So if this doesn't happen, people will know that look, Edwards had signed on the dotted line. He's at the top of the division. Who else has Woodley want to fight at this stage? He's coming off a loss. I think it must be frustrating for Leon. well, what's gone on and then, you know, I think we'll even both agree that we want to see

fucking Mazvedal and Diaz. Yeah, yeah. As much as it's, it didn't hurt. Everyone wants to see it. It was just unfortunate at the time. But yeah, you've got to feel sorry from in terms of that. And I think he's, as you just said there, he's reacted and maybe planted the seed in their heads for them to get engaged in this scrap. And I think it's a very, very good idea. Obviously, what happened

again with Masvidal Diaz must really have had him thinking and go, fuck, what am I going to do next here? But hopefully this one's going to get sealed down on Komen event, as you said for Chan Redding. I think that's the one thing that will appeal to Woodley. Like, will he be able to get someone at McGregor pay-per-view money? Like, will he be able to get something like that? Well, it makes sense for Woodley because, as you said, there, you know,

with Conner-R-O-Kar-Lagher. So, yeah, it makes sense for Leon as well. What a statement, though, it would be if Edwards goes out and beats him after all the shit, people are talking to Leon when he was talking about the tail fight. No, I totally agree. Look what Woodley did the deal, and then he goes out and beats Woodley? But look at the platform it is, you know, you can't be denied then. Because, you know, once Conner's back, I'm sure when we'll be looking at 2 million pay-per-view boys.

Two million pay-per-view fucking eyes. I don't know. People say it's going to be a lot less because of the ESPN thing, right? Yeah, right. Yeah, probably will be with the new SPN thing. One million say what, like everyone's kind of saying to me at the moment, like, one million is, oh my God, if you hit that during the ESPN area, you know? It's like, whoa. They're even saying with Conner, I don't know if he's going to be able to do it. No, he will.

Yeah, he will. Yeah, he will. And I think, you know, those eyes would. Leon Edwards in the Comain event as well. It's, you know, all that sort of fits in nicely for Leon and puts more eyes on Leon. So basically he's putting him in a self, he's putting himself in a position where he actually just can't be

fucking denied if he goes out and beats Tar and Woody. Yeah, I agree with you completely. We will talk about Joy Herbert's fantastic display a little bit later. We're going to hear from Joy and we're also going to have a look at that cage where his car had a bit more depth in part two of the show. But Saladin Pernasse against Ivan Butchinger, you know, he's 4 and O so far with KSW. he's beating the best veterans KSW have to offer

trying to bring in a Russian stalwart a 10 year veteran a guy you know a lot of people probably know even budging are more than mostly for that kind of being on the end of that highlight real knockout to Connor McGregor that left hook

the left hook that secured his second cage warriors toil and open the door to the UFC for him so but you know if you think that's all there is to budging you're very wrong he's a former M1 Challenge champion he's a former cage warriors champion a brilliantly well

rounded fighter and can't wait for that card now. We'll call it off and Askum and also Yanukowski on that card. I mean, they're going to end the year with a big bang KSW. So I'm really looking forward to seeing how Parnass gets on against Butchinger. And what about Ben Cartlidge? Just last of all, I already said congratulations, but great achievement, isn't it? You don't see that a lot like a UK judge being flown across the water to officiate these events. Yeah, and I think it just shows you how much of a proper job Ben does and how professionally is,

Barre is tweeting, might I add, to me slating me. That was hilarious. No, a great guy, really professional. You know, we used to speak to Ben on the show and, you know, he's really good at breaking down and what criteria a judge should use. Yeah, I understand it way more after talking to Ben.

Yeah. You know, like he's literally taking me through things a number of occasions and I'm sure we're going to have me. You know, he was the first one a couple of years ago to even put my idea of watching, you know, a fight with the commentary off. It's just something you just don't think of when you're... That's your idea, was it?

No, that was Ben's idea to me. But sometimes, you know, three, four years ago, we wouldn't have really thought about that. Yeah, Joe Rogan's been shone about 10 years. Yeah, but listen, who listens to Joe, really? Only 25 million people in an episode. More people listen to us right ahead. But no, no, you know, sometimes

he just simplifies things a lot more in the criteria and he puts it in the context of where I think, you know, we sort of fucking maybe take a little bit away and we sort of implemented in our criteria and we're actually scoring a fight. So he lets some props to Ben, great guy and a fantastic judge.

Let's get on to some talking points here. The McGregor press conference was a big deal last week. He seems to be very driven. I don't think there's any doubt about that. He seems to have a real bite in him, I guess you'd say, from them press conferences. Obviously he announced that January 18 in return really blown away by the lack of traction

it had in Ireland. to be quite honest, like the lack of buzz I had over here. Well, not really surprised, I guess, but, you know, interesting to see that nobody really seems to care all that much over here, right? I think people are unwilling to, um, actually sort of speak about us and talk about it because of obviously,

um, you know, the incident in the pub when he, he cracked that old gentleman. I think that's put a lot of people off. And other things we can't talk about. Yeah. Of course.

Yeah. But, um, you know, Ireland's a small place, man. Uh, fucking is. you know, it really is. And I think the smaller the country and, you know, things go on in this country or something happens like that in terms of, you know, him punching a guy in a pub.

And I think, you know, because we're so small, like you walk fucking Dublin in two minutes. It's fucking tiny. It's not like America where you go to York and there's 10 million fucking people floating around. Like, so I think the whole issue with the press conference there was really surprising to me the amount of Russians.

and like did you see I think it was Dennis Goyko put like a shot of the media asking for selfies all that crap anyway no but the amount of media that were there in Russia like it was crazy there was there was a lot but I mean there was the same amount at Stoylebender's white you know what I mean like it's no but just for one guy what I'm saying well he's the biggest star in the sport yeah I know yeah no I'm still you know a bit taken back by the Russian media coverage on him well I was just taken back with them all queuing up for selfies after well that was just you know It's stupid. It should be banned.

One thing that really didn't sit well with me in that, you look, we've said it, everybody said it. Like, as I've said on Twitter, like, I'm not breaking any news here,

but this is, this is already getting very sinister. And, like, I mean, it's already, like, the way he's talking about these things,

the Dagestani people, it's, it's gross, like, it's not good. And here's the quotes here. Like, just imagine,

right, if you can't put this into context, right, Like imagine you're an Irish man and an English person saying this about you. He can run and he does run. It's in the nature of the Dagestani man to run. Every great Russian knows this about the Dagestani men. Every Chechen knows this about the Dagestani men.

They run and they cower. That's it. And that's what you're seeing with Khabib. He is running and he is cowering away like he did in Brooklyn when I showed up that day. I mean, what do you think of that? Like I think it's a terrible way. Look, I think it's even starting on a worse footing than the, last fight started off on, you know, like this, we, we are potentially, like, a number of years

away from this fight, and that's how we're building it. That's the, that's the, that's the fire we're sending for that. Like, it's, it's, it's, but was it ever going to get any better? Was, was it? But that's worse. That's way worse is what I'm saying. It's not better. Like, it's not like, it's gone, it's lowered the tone again, as far as I'm concerned. Like, you, you see that man throwing a bottle at Connor, like, that whole nation of people feel that way. Like, I mean, that's, it's not a good thing to be selling a fight off a hate speech, like, Yeah, no, no, listen, I agree with you. And, you know, maybe it's a number of years away.

I understand that Habib on Twitter, they had that back and forth. And Habib said something very personal, you know, that's going on at the moment that we can't speak about. He attacked him that way. And I understand that would roll you up. To then put it on the people is, I think, is just very bad look. I think it's a very bad look for the sport. Yeah, no, listen, you know, I agree. I don't agree with any of this shot between the two of them.

I didn't agree with it when it was in, you know, obviously the bail-up to the last fight. But, you know, there's no excuse for it. There isn't really... I couldn't believe it, man. When he started going down that road, I was like, oh, my God, man. You know, do you think that was purpose he said? Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, I think it's pretty obvious that he's trying to get the Russian people on his side.

Oh, yeah, I agree with that. I think that's, yeah, that's plainly obvious. There's an incredible amount of civil war going on between these people over. Yeah, there always has been, you know, it's a long history, you know, Chechnya, Dagestan, Russia, Chetney, all that. But look, just for you, for me, I'll say it to you, I'm an English dude.

He can run and he does run. It's in the nature of Irish men to run. Every great English man knows this about Irish men. Every Scotch man knows this about Irish men. They run and they cower. How would that make you feel if someone said that to you? I'd agree. No, no, obviously not.

You know, obviously it would set a fire on me. And yeah, listen, that's what we want. That's what he wants. And maybe, you know, I think maybe there's a certain elements that things got so out of hand the last time he just doesn't give a fuck anymore that's that's pretty much what we get from what

he says these days you know and Habib's pretty much the same in terms of you know walking out of media crisis does he not want to address these issues you know that's the surprising thing to me that he hasn't rebutted and he's walked out of press conference and things like that as well I think walking out of press conference is better than saying yeah yeah yeah it is it is it is it is and

yeah listen it doesn't doesn't particularly sit well with me this this whole narrative between the two of them hasn't but like, you know, what do you say? What do you say? You say that's a disgrace. I guess that's all I'm saying. You know, yeah, I agree. I agree.

I do agree, yeah. And just like Witt is, like, the thing that's, that's, that's, that's, is surprising me the most about it. Like, for a guy that's on such bad terms with the public at the moment, like, this isn't doing anything for him, right? Like, I mean, everybody was, keeps talking about, oh, the McGregor PR machine, like, how are you going to win people back over it? Well, I don't think people give a shit here, as you said, because it hasn't been covered.

That hasn't been mentioned to me. Even, you know... I guess it's announced January 18, return, has been mentioned. But the press conference and the content, what we said in the press conference, has not been mentioned here. And I think, you know, a number of people have seen it, obviously the MMA community and people like that. But, you know, even people, you know, for a point there to your night and...

Yeah, that's what I'm getting. People are texting me going, like, did you hear what he said there? Like, I mean, oh, like, I don't feel like he represents us anymore. You know, like, I don't feel like he represents us anymore. You know, like, I feel, like, I mean, I know that's, a lot of people are saying that, but people were pretty, like, people were pretty dumbfounded by it. Like, they're like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you mean, but, but I think, you know,

what I was going to allude to there was, you know, I think people here were aware that Connor was back fighting, you know, oh, McGregor's fighting again, but they didn't, maybe the casual fan didn't know the actual context of what was said in the press conference. Yeah. So I found that interesting. But, you know, they still know that he's announced that he's coming back to fight. Yeah.

The three-tier plan that he has, we're going to get on to the opponent next because Noel has some really good stuff on that. The three-tier plan, the fight in January, then fight the winner of Mazvedal-Diaz, and then obviously look for this inevitable rematch in Moscow with Habib Nirmagamatov.

No, he takes on that. January fight, great, great to see him back in there. Probably a good idea to fight Masvedal-Diaz, because they're going to have a lot of hype coming off of that. But please don't do that fight in Moscow. If you're going to rematch those guys, I mean, just let's do it in America again or something because I really don't see that going very well.

With that speech being used, all that stuff, you're driving up. Listen, it's not going to be Moscow. That's bullshit. That's just Connor talking. They won't go near Moscow to do that fight. I guarantee you that. They need the maximise profits.

They'll have to do it somewhere else, right? They won't. They should probably do behind closed doors, if we're honest. It might work out a bit better for everyone. But yeah, listen. I'm actually sick of being, like, having to talk. about stuff outside of mixed martial arts just people just how much

of a let like how frustrating it is at the moment you know what I mean it's it's massively frustrating but I suppose that's what comes with the territory not being able to discuss everything as well is hard I think yeah no it of course it is and especially when you see some of the the ill-informed

people on Twitter and they're going oh Irish journalists sorry mate do you fucking know the libel laws here you know I've you have to do them here as well. Like, you've had two sit downs in the last year, and I still don't feck and understand half of them, but I know, I know what you can and cannot say.

And listen, just look up the real book, man. You and McKenna, I think, put out an actually decent tweet about... Everybody has, like, but I mean... Yeah, that's it. About the January 18th fight, you had some good intel there. You believe it's Donald Seroni, right? I am convinced it's Donald Seroni.

Duke Rufus last week Obviously You know Andy Pettis and him fought before And Duke put out a tweet Sorry on his Facebook page saying That's impressive a tweet on a Facebook page Sorry yeah

Shut up Basically do put out a post saying That they both agreed The UFC had offered Team Pettis, Donald Serroney And they both agreed to do the rematch And obviously the news of

McGregor's return to the cage when you had a press conference on Thursday, was it Thursday? Wednesday? Thursday. Whatever day it was. I got on to Mr. Rufus and Duke said that the UFC said Donald Seroni was now unavailable

to fight. D-d-d-d-d-d- So that leads to me saying that Connor McGregor is going to be fighting Donald Soroni in January, I'd imagine. And I think maybe it's just about getting maybe Donald's side over the

line now. I think Conner's obviously most of the agreed on advice. Do you not see tweeted that great picture of the Budweiser beside the proper 12? Well, Donald loves stirring the shit like as well like he's always posting stuff. I love that I love that the Irish people are once again just represented by alcohol. Yeah.

It's great, isn't that? Back in the 18th and hundreds. But no, listen, it is. You know, we talked about this fight before. I liked it before. No, you didn't particularly like it. It does make sense. It makes more sense than Frank Yeager. Yeah, it does. It does. It does. It does. and I think, you know, Cowboys

obviously a guy who's been up and down and he's been floating around hasn't been really on a massive swing of momentum or shift momentum. We don't know where Connor McGregor's at in terms of his fighting ability. So I think it's going to be a very interesting one. It's a risky fight for both guys

and I think for Connor it's obviously a massively risky fight but it's one I could see him actually overcoming. But I think that is the fight we're going to see. Do you agree? Yeah, I think, yeah, based on what you got there, I think it's very likely Anacorus Ariel O'Anne tweeted that Gaichi and Soroni were front runners as well

around the same time as you were getting this And one thing I would say though Ali managing Justin Gaichi Does that give it? Like I mean we've seen it so many times It comes down to one of Ali's guys against another guy And it usually goes with the Ali guy You know?

It does Yeah, it does But I think I think Conner will have a big saying Who he's going to fight in his company I don't know but it appears from the press conference And what he's saying that there He did a press conference in Kiev, I believe.

He said he knew the opponent, though. He did, but he does seem to be at loggerheads with the USC. He referred to him as a crafty company. He referred to him on him and stuff like that. So, you know, as good as the intel is, I wouldn't be surprised if Gaichy suddenly got that fight. And I don't think that's, I think that's one of the worst fights for him. Yeah, I think it's a terrible fight for Connor,

just because obviously what Gaichi brings. They're both pressure fighters, both well-used. Like, I mean... Yeah, and I think, you know, let's be honest, I think, you know, Justin Gaichie probably has more skills in terms of his wrestling, that Donald, he's stronger in that area and it's an area that we don't see an awful lot from him

but he actually is such a good fucking wrestler but yeah, I would not be surprised on that but you would think if Connor was to agree in a fight it would be the cowboy when it would make more sense I think there's more of a chance from to make a statement there if he wants to

really start looking at this Habib fight next year at some point. Absolutely, just finally as we're talking about Connor Tyson Furious said he's going to move to MMA. This time it's a lot more well received than it was the first time I believe he said he was going to fight Kane Velasquez and people are like, ho.

Someone was tweeting Greg Hardy. You think that's a great idea if Greg wins in Moscow, do the two of them. Why not? Like, why not? And like, they're both, you know, good names, good sell, good draw, throw them fucking, you know, common event on a Habib or McGregor pay-per-view sometime next year. Why not, like? Like, I mean, it's hard enough to get Conor McGregor to fight these days, never mind train Tyson

Viori. Yeah, yeah. I don't know where he's fucking. I don't know where he's getting that from. Like imagine him trying to wait for Connor. Oh yeah, I'll be down there in an hour. You'll be six hours later. Do you want to train at 4 a.m. every...

Rubbish. Like the chances of that. I presume he's just talking about coming over here working with... I wouldn't be surprised if they did have a chat somehow about him and Connor, but the thing that Connor's going to be training him. Come on, man. Rubbish, rubbish. Yeah.

Listen, pinch assault. We'll take that one way. But listen, you don't know with Fury. Fury is a mad bastard, man. If there's a one guy... If there's one guy that would do it, it would be fucking Tyson Fury. He's such good crack. He is good crack.

But listen, do we really want to say it? Yeah. But it's not... It's a heavyweight champion of the world, man. That's the intriguing thing I think about it, is that. It's like the biggest name of one of the biggest names in boxing, but they were... It's not like that flute last week, Jake Hager from the W.D.E. It's obviously, you know, different.

But... You know what I mean? It is. I like to see it. I really would. I think it'd be great. Great for martial. as well and it just sort of shows you

where's box not again at the moment it's sort of gone up and down. But yeah but Fury not there is it it's so much. Well it's basically like they're all I think Fury sort of brought it back to life too

I know but like basically Fury is putting himself in the McGregor situation where he has so many options each way that is promoter will have to pay him way more money of course Eddie Heron's fucking shit in the bed every time he does one of these interviews I'll say for fuck sake

he's not Eddie Herring's way actually Yeah he is he? I don't have a fucking good But um I'll have Pardon Isles beyond giving us debt there If he's not one of Heron's Goals.

It's been a weird week I don't think he is one of Herons guys Because he's always given Joshua and Heron's shit Anyway, it doesn't matter Fuck boxing Yeah No listen It's been a weird week

And I think You know obviously a lot of fucked up shit going on in Mix Mark There is like You know In terms of the press conference All that like

It's just hard sometimes to compartmentalise And where to put things You get a bit muddle But yes Let's just hopefully Look forward to you know something happening and something phone happening

and God happening in 2020 because I think sort of we need some injection of positivity back into mixed martial arts but I feel like that's happening and then when Connor comes back it's gone back to this fucking yeah well I think Israel was great

a couple of weeks ago yeah Israel look at Jorge Maserl and Nate Diaz not talking shit all that kind of stuff and we'll probably talk about the Nate Diaz situation when we're a preview on the card later on

but look from one elite heavyweight and Toys and Fury to another Mr Cyril Gann who went to 2 and 0 with the UFC with a second submission win. Look, the audio is not fantastic here because Coach Fernand and Cyril rang me while they're in the airport. Now, we're lucky to get a word with them at all. So really, really grateful that they had the time for us.

They're doing great things in the UFC. I love watching this guy fight. I've been onto him for a long time. He was in one of my prospects lists, I think earlier this year when he was TKO champion at just 2 and 0. A fantastic fighter, a huge, huge future ahead of him. him and he told me before the fight that he thinks he's going to be the man to headline UFC's first event in France so we'll leave you with this and we'll be back in about 10 minutes

and now once again we are joined by the man who was the talk of the town after UFC Singapore Mr Cyril gan who uncharacteristically uncaracteristically scored another submission win in his second UFC outing that's two in two appearances and of course he got that big bonus as well. We have Coach Fernand Lopez here helping us translate. So a big hello to Coach Fernand and Cyril. How are you guys doing?

Hello. Hello. Hello. Hey, hi. I'm fine. So, my question? No, yeah, I'm fine. Siri, it's fine. So we are glad to be in this process. So we're yet to run.

If you have any You're ready. Yes, I was just wondering, is he surprised that he got another submission win? Because he said after his debut that he was surprised he got a submission. Is he, is he a surprise? Do you have to say that first, do you still, do you still? No, no, no, no, no, no. It's not really not a surprise.

It's been really working in a month. Because, already, the gym, even in the factory, but also during the factory. The stand that was a surprise. because we were going back. We worked specifically on some submissions, including the interlock in the gym and in the family in Singapore. So that was a surprise at all. How much does the bonus mean to him?

Is this a life-changing amount of money for him, or is it just nice to be coming home with some more money? Is it a big life-changing amount of money for him? What is the bonus of combat change to have you? What does it mean? What does it mean? It's a thing for me because I never touched a person.

And a thing is sure is that it's not that I'm going to happen to whatever with you. Okay. Yeah, I said that that bonus is a lot for him

because this is the first time that he has, that can some amount of money, and for sure they make sure to use it properly for a good cause. Does he know what he wants to spend it on yet? Has he thought about how he will spend it? Okay.

I should say that's what you're on the bonus. Yeah. Yeah, I'm wearing. What I'm going to be with my time to be in the brie. So, to invest in an engagement more than the government

than I'm going to do you actually. Okay. He said that he's on the way to buy a new house and that promise would help him to to final the acquisition of the new home for his family.

Amazing. Amazing. For a guy like Cyril, who is so famous for his knockout power, does he think about his first knockout in the UFC a lot? How dramatic does he think his first knockout will be? He will know if the fact that you have been to make the pressure and if you have the impression that you have to have a problem, no, it made

not the pressure it's not not a question because it's not specifically

for the time that I can do see if or I've proved

that I could make out so so so so so

well I said I said I don't have any pressure

on that kind of thinking because I know what I'm capable

of I know that I have have to knock at Tower. I proved that already in the past with the big gloves in the multi or kickboxing. So I'm not worried about that. I proved that in my previous fight before the UC. I'm not chasing the hero that will come. When the opportunity will be there, I will be there to knock people out. So I'm not rushing for that.

How close did he feel the fight was to be finished at the end of the first round? He was landing big shots on the ground and I felt that the fight could have been stopped. Did he think it could have been stopped? I think it could have been stopped. Is he thought you had to be necessary? No, I think that the arbitrator was.

I think he would have be a bit more precise so he would have to have five seconds of this. He said, no. I said I think that the referee was fair enough. because he should have been more precise, more accuracy,

so have more accuracy, and eventually have two more seconds, or two more seconds to finish the fight. But the call was good. Right, right. You know, for his next fight, I know Cyril doesn't like to call anyone out. He is called the good kid.

But is there anyone in the division that he would like to fight? maybe a veteran or somebody that is known more to fans. Is there anyone that he has his eye on that he would think would make for an interesting fight for his next fight? Is he is that he said that you have the good guy that you didn't have to convict of the people, because he has.

Sircane, you'd be in the region that you have. No. No, I've got so many girls. Well, no, no, I do not have any men. I don't have any of the first. He told me that it's just like, you're looking forward to get busy. You just want to have a fight before the end of the year. That's it.

No matter who, no matter where, no matter when. But we don't want to, I mean, like, he's crossing the matchmaking of the UFC and that's it. You say before the end of the year, Coach Fernand, does Cyril want to fight, does he have any date in mind that he could fight on? Because he is very active, right? At the moment, I was wondering when he would like to fight. He wants to know why you'd rather than combat. Why you're so active? Why do you know how an entrepreneur and a young entrepreneur to build an activity?

I feel like it's like a new business man that you just got to the activity and you need to engage yourself work even more than an old business plan so you can have some income so you feel like you need to work more to keep busy and learn because the fighter this is a job

and you feel like every time that you fight you're not only winning the fact that you're, you know, so the experience, like, you're learning. So he hoped maybe he could fight at UFC 245 on December 14th. Would that appeal to him? You've been the, which one? In Vegas? The last one is a car in South Korea. Yes, Busan, that's right.

Yes, he would like to fight there in South Korea? Yeah, the city of Busan. Yeah, yeah, why not? I think we have a, I have a big event that I'm launching. One of the powerful mass media in France, that event will take place 14 December in Dakar, Senegal, in Africa, and France, and Syrians will be, guests in that event.

So for sure, it will not be available to fight in Vegas that day. Because most of the fighters, the good fighter in France and Europe will be there to see that fight, which is one of the major event that will be starting on the 14th December. So we probably want to be in,

yeah, so we probably want him to be in one of the card before that if there's some, some injury or whatever. whatever that they leave someone, or then are the other than you fight in the Bhutan or whatever he is, and then in India, you make himself a little because now is strange. Who would you like to see him fight, Fernand?

I mean, I know Cyril doesn't like calling people out, but do you have someone in your mind that you would like to see him fight next? No, to be honest with you, at this point, in my mind, the only people that I would like to see him. because I know the game because I know people there I know the fighter there

I know what they can bring in the table but at the same time I trust the matchmaking what I know is that in the next card in Washington there will be like two five

every week five that means there's four people there is someone there any problem there Siri will step in no matter who he is. Amazing, amazing. Coach Fernand and Cyril,

thank you guys so much. You have joined us from the airport today and I know you guys are running around and very busy, so thank you so much for joining us again and I can't wait to see what's next. Thank you. I'm very sorry for the communication.

We are in transition, so it's not easy for us to have the good spot to talk with you without having a lot of noise, but thank you to have us is NMAF. No problem, my friend. Thank you so much, guys. Speak to you soon. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. And thank you very much to coach Fernand Lopez and Cyril Gan after another submission win. Who to thunk it, huh?

The knockout artist with the fantastic heel hooks. A bit like myself, to be honest. Yeah, so much. But moving on from that, let's take a look at the arse load of MMA that happened last weekend to the joy of me and Noel. Fucking. Can you give us just one night? night off over the weekend. All right, here we go. Let's start off with the main event. Damien Moia and Ascran, I love this.

I thought it was brilliant. Really, really good fight. I really enjoyed it. There was so many intricate little things that happened in their grappling sequences. Unfortunately, it's the best performance of Ben Ascran's USC tenure, and it's a loss. But I thought it was a really good fight.

Like, I mean, competitive throughout. You know, really, really enjoyed it. And Moia, who's either 42 now or goes 42 very soon. It looked incredible. Really, really intricate detail. And for me, he has shown again why he's one of the greatest

jih Tijuana proponents to ever fight in him. To you honest, you man, I thought he was going to spark him out in the feet. The left hands, he was landing him left hands. He was just constantly landing and, listen, Ascranor, really poor, I thought, in the feet. Like, really four? Yeah, he looks really cumbersome and awkward.

But did you know, as the fight wore on, he started to have a lot more success. Like, I mean... Because I think Damien tired a little bit. He never looked like Muhammad. at Lee like but I'm saying he he like made a a correction from earlier in the first round he just kept on walking into the clinch that's what he was trying to

and then in the second round he was using these stream of jabs he tore about four jobs but he actually started connecting with them and then connect to connect him with uppercuts in the clinch as well I mean he's not gonna be he's not gonna be an elite strike or ever but I did think as as ugly as it was to watch it was effective at times you know yeah yeah but I actually thought he was gonna get knocked out in the first round but one point that would have been imagine

Damien might have knocked him out. Yeah. Could have been walking papers right there. But like, yeah, you know, you would love obviously the jits element of Maya was. It was fascinating to watch some of the scrambles and the deck were amazing.

Really good finish. And yeah, listen, but like, it's one of those fights though, Pete, I feel like, where does either, where does either guy go with a win at the moment? Yeah, I mean, I don't really know, like, because Maya, I mean, as good as he is and he's on a great win streak,

proved time and time again that he can't really put it at the very top. That's my point. And then Ben Ascran, you know, a lot of people will feel and a lot of people did feel as though, you know, they're obviously the Robbie Lawler stoppage then, you know, got sparked in five seconds and then came in here, loses again. Where is his stock at the moment? It's very tough to gauge it, man. I see a lot of even media members going harm on this. Like, oh, like, you know, he's crapping stuff. I saw crap. I never thought Ben Ascgrim was the best wealth away in the world. I've said this for... never thought he was even remotely in the same league nowhere near um so you know i never taught that uh we've talked about we've talked about this for years yeah like i expect him to lose all

those fights yeah all right um so i mean i understand when you when you talk and you put yourself out there you're going to be open to a lot more shit than the next person like i mean his his buildup to that masvidal fight made masvidal a star yes that's there is a power to it there's absolutely no doubt about it but um you're going to get it in the next when you lose, but he fought really well. Like, I mean, there was some very interesting things he did in that fight that I was geeking out on a bit. Sorry, I'm just starting to drop my head.

A lot of people are only talking about, oh, he lost. Like, they failed to even reference the fact that he had a competitive fight there with Damien Moia. Now, I did, full disclosure, I know Ben Ascran thought he won the first three rounds. I scored them both for Moia. I did as well. Because, you look, even though he was having more success, for the first half of the second round,

as soon as he took Moya down, Maya attacked him with a triangle, alma plata, mounted him, took his back. I mean, that's beating the shit out of someone if you're on the feet. You know what I mean? That is annihilating someone if you're on the feet. So, look, I just don't get it.

I get it from the fans. You're going to anticipate they're going to get onto you, oh, what do you think of that? You got the full buffet again, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But, like, people rejoicing in his defeat. It's pretty sad. From the other side of the camera is pretty weird. I agree.

But Stevie Ray, big, big was UFC win of his career? Easily, hands down. And I think Michael Johnson in terms of what he did in the fight, you know, was the first round

and second round that was really close. First, I thought first and second were close, to be honest. I think one of them was maybe slightly closer, but I actually think

I had it maybe Johnson two up. Was that right in the first two rounds? And then a 10-8 and the last could have been even a draw. Yeah, you could have been right there. I think a lot people might have scored Stevie the first one they might have because he landed a lot of leg kicks and then the first one for Stevie second one for Johnson and then you know you're looking

possibly at a 10-8 in the last but maybe if you look again at the time of that round it isn't a 10-8 like his Johnson did for two and a half minutes probably have the upper tune him up on that round really good on the feet but again Michael Johnson we've seen this like his last three or four fights I think the featherweight um you know the featherweight experiment was a total weight of time really for him because he's just such a big guy and he's a 155 or out and out but if you looked at it again man

he's he's been you know he's made a little error that's fucking cost him a fight and it's actually happened in his last three or four fights he looked so well and one error has literally cost him his last three or four fights I don't know if it was his error as much as it was Stevie being very smart in that situation like I mean

he needed he had a last roll of a dice situation right there like he had to make something happen and he fucking did that takedown was was unbelievable. And the work rate he put in, as soon as he got him down. He didn't stop, man. And I think the biggest mistake Stevie Ray made in this fight is calling for a bonus afterwards. Yeah, we were chatting about it.

He probably would have fucking got one if he didn't do it. I want that kid to the minibus, Dina. I hope he gets his minibus. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, big time. But, um, Stevie's a good lad. He is. He is.

And listen, very, you know, does, deserve, I know problems with the scorecard. I know some people were mowning about it. I saw some uproar online. Oh, really? M.M.A fans were moaning about something? not even fans, there's fighters and stuff as well that were given out about it, but yeah, I'd know a problem with it and best wish to Stevie, but I'm just disappointed with Michael Johnson

again, I can understand Johnson, like, when I knew it was going to be close decision either way, because the first two rounds are two, so close, I'm like, whoever wins this, or if it's a draw, people are going to be scratching their heads, I don't have a problem with it. But frustrated, I'd say, from Michael Johnson's point of view. Oh, yeah, the last two minutes of the fight basically costing the whole fight. Let's move it on then. to Mr. Benita Ayush was fantastic.

I don't know if you saw that. I did. Just two minutes of fucking brilliance, really. It was class. but anyway, yeah. Look, yeah, we can't introduce you to the Desilvisions, Snowl. Salikoff gets us

a third win in a row the Sanda Master, showcasing some fabulous kicking skills on route to victory over Loreno, Star Poli. With body kicks. Yeah, the pinning back kicks, beautiful. Like, I mean, this guy came in

and he lost a decision, I think, and everybody was like, or else he got submitted, I can't remember, and everyone was like, oh, well, that was a lot of bollocks. He's huge in China, like a huge name. He called for the Leach after that fight.

It's a brilliant fight to make for China. It's a brilliant. fight to make for them. Just in terms of European, we'll go. Fiziev, got a decision win. Mavsar Ivloviev

got a win over Enrique Barzola, who you think looks like Alexi Sanchez, who we learned on the night. Sergei Pavlovich, called that one, an early K-O win over Maurice Green, really bounced back

from that first loss to Alistar Overeim. He's a long way from his gold medals, isn't he now? Whoop, whoop. And Luke been me, I just thought I'd mention from Thailand.

Absolutely phenomenal. with a split decision win there. She looks vicious as fuck. I can't wait to see her fight again. She does. From a European perspective, the most important thing after UFC was probably Cage Warriors because there were a cage warrior's title on the line.

And as we know, they dictate to a large extent who will be the next person in the UFC. And I have to tell you, I absolutely believe Joy Herbert is ready for the UFC after that. He bet, he completely overwhelmed Kane Carrizo. I mean, it wasn't. He looks so fucking fluid when he's striking, doesn't he? And the other thing,

maybe that wasn't caught upon. He's really improved in terms and we talked about it as well. He took a lot of, you know, he came back from adversity. There was none of that in this fight. He was actually defending exceptionally well.

He took maybe one or two shots in the whole fight, even up against the cage. And once he had him in the clinch, man, it was, you know, there was nothing that Carriosa could do. He was fucking owning him.

He was out on his feet. He could not believe, I don't think he could actually believe how quickly Joey Herbert was able to hit him with his back hand, tune him up to the body, knee him. Like he was doing,

fucking everything. I guess the one thing people would say about Herbert based on one fight really was against no, O'Keefe was when he got taken down

and controlled but the second he got up he knocked O'Keefe out. He came back and he was what I mean adversity. But I guess like I think he defended his takedowns very well

against Carrizoza. He was based... My point is there's been solid improvements everywhere. Oh, he looks fucking amazing. Since the McKee fight and I think it's a no brain or now to sign him

and Cage where he's obviously playing that up all week as well. And to go out and do that against the UFC vet, to put that fucking knee up and just, boom, you're out. If you're overwhelming someone who was determined to be good enough to fight in the best league in the world at one stage

in his career, if you're doing that to them. But in one round as well. I mean, come on. Just get the paper out. And look, as I said to before, and we'll speak to Joy Herbert about this later, I'm sure Joy is very confident he's going to get that UFC contract. But if he isn't,

Mason Jones v. Joy Herbert, are you fucking kidding me? I saw Patty the Baddy is also saying he's pretty confident that Joy will be signing and he's saying he should meet Desme I mean I can see Mason Jones having some complaints about that but I'll take any of those fights anyway they go. Yeah, no, listen to quality

but I think Joy deserves that now as well. But from a UFC perspective, as I was saying on Twitter yesterday, look, Leon Edwards is not going to stop badgering them about this Birmingham event. To do a Birmingham event, you need more Birmingham for it is. We don't know what Tom Breeze's status is in the moment, who would be a huge name in Birmingham.

But Joy Herbert's there. And as Graham Boylan said straight after it, he thinks it's time. That means he's willing to discuss this with the UFC. Get him on board. This kid is as exciting as it comes. I really feel like, wow, he is an exciting guy to watch,

isn't he? My Jesus. Black country badger, as you call him. I fucking called him that in the post fight right up by accident. Oh, no. And then so again. No, but listen, Brad Warren sends to the next morning, the legendary Brad Warren. I was like, oh my God, who did that?

And he's like, you did? I was like, what? Are you can even remember? I was like, no way. And then he goes to me, I know, you weren't the only one. Sends me the graphic from Cage Royers on the night. The Black County Badger, a Eurobashism, making it all the way in. There you go.

There you go. A word for Brad as well. I've never heard as many unbelievables in one night from Bradden. The commentary for the, the commentary for the, the main car was fantastic. He captivates people when you're watching. You get excited, listen to him. Him and Josh, man, they're like a well-old machine.

Some of you listen to some of the interactions they have. They're so quick. You know, when something suddenly happens, just straight away. Pointing it out and really exciting, great stuff. And good work, lads. Morgan Sherrye looks like a serious, serious dude. And I've been blown away by his fan base. Absolutely unbelievable fan base.

Dean Truman is getting lit up. still, which is not good to see, to be honest. Like, guys, you're going to one, fucking leave it out. Truman, one thing is, seems to be accusing Morgan Chariot of steroid abuse or PED abuse of some kind. But I guess, like, if you are anywhere apart from in the UFC, you know, ACEs are wild, you know?

Yeah, it's a wild world out there. Not that I'm saying, I think Morgan is on this or whatever, but I'm just saying for any fighter to do that. Oh, you have to realize that every single fighter you could potentially fight outside of the UFC could be on the sauce. Of course, it's just too expensive. You know, you can't get inside and stuff with water or whoever. So it's just the harsh reality of it. And listen, you know, Sharié looks fantastic from what we saw of him, totally dominated Dean.

And Dean's an animal man. I agree. He's one of the best 144 ever than Europe on his day. Even against Mads-Barnel, he had a very competitive fight. I'd love to see Mads and Morgan get it on. I know that Mads has already has a fight booked against fuck

I don't know in November Mads Burnell oh how do I not I can't even think of who it is yet I'm gonna have to Google it Google it Did you see Chris Mott

I'm sorry guys He'd a few words from as well After obviously in relation to that And there was a bit It seemed a bit about bad blood To himself and Shari Obviously stuff as you mentioned

On social media I didn't think it was bad As the fans are treating Dean I'm like dude come on man he talked like I'm gonna win you know whatever it was like you know I just don't understand it like how a person who's not involved in the fight can take so much joy like yeah we are badgering him in the comments but I guess when Dean is is making accusations like that it's gonna happen Steve Amy will is who Matt's Bernal is taking on Jesus sorry about that

Chris Meyer returns yeah and retires what like I mean you're knocking on the door of the cartwright for you nah all right doesn't mind and Jack Cartwright's gonna I'll go he he was going to knock you out and he was like making death fucking cuts to him he's a bad motherfucker isn't he carrie? He is coming in and he was debut and winning the fucking title He's a bad he's a bad man

You can just see him sitting there in the crowd When I was looking at him in the crowd I was like oh he's evil He's an evil little fucker Him and his boys there I just well like I would be sitting probably up in the stands If they were then Reminds me of a young Neil Siri

He does actually a little bit doesn't he Just don't go near that lad unless you have a blade on you Jesus Little critter fucking hell he's a dangerous looking deal though man I love that shit but I was seeing that

him getting pissed off that they're after Basie talking to you about this toilet and you're saying no you're all right he was like I think he shouted something but they got the camera on him straight after it

he does he says oh you don't want this or I think it was something this year I don't know what it was but I don't know he goes you'll get knocked out he goes wah like that but listen

yeah listen if the guy's hard isn't in it you know we always talk about that don't be getting in there and well you're just not going to get the amount. If they're not going to pay a 20 grand me,

no one's going to pay a 20 grand. Not outside the big promotions. But even the USC. Maybe your win and show will get you 20 grand, but no one's signed you for $20,000. Like it's nothing to do with Chris Moyer not being a good for. He's obviously a fucking good for him if he's been in Brian Boulin. It's just not going to happen like that.

You can't just call your price in this sport unfortunately because mine would be millions. Perry Goodwin, what a debut of 45. He looked fucking brilliant. Leg kicks were excellent in the first round. fit over that three rounds and going down to a lighter weight class really impressed.

I think he needed to do it though. Well it's so hard to gauge because Reese was enormous. But Reese is fucking, that's true. Reese looks like a middleweight and a mind of welterweight. Yeah, I know I agree. Look, really, really good.

It was a dominant performance for me all three rounds. Yeah. A great addition of 44 for me, to be honest. I think it's great. Like, if look, I'd love to see Morgan v. Perry if they're going to make something. Why not?

Like, let's see a knock. Mick Stanton continues to be unbelievably resurgent that middleweight. Three and O in the weight class now. Three consecutive wins. Certainly knocking on the door that James Webb title if James gets through Natoyas in November.

I'd say. Look very well as well. Really good bank cart, you know, picked him up on us. What do he? He choked him out. Was it rear naked choke in the end? Rear naked choke, that's right, yeah.

He ground and a pound him for a bit. He's done his knee. He blew his ACL. He's sitting on the ground. He makes like a leg, Weve pulls him to the ground. So Eunice is on top of him. A unit. Yeah, yeah. He's a big

dude, isn't he? Somehow managed to get Mick reverse the situation, moves the half guard and then takes us back. You're like, man, that is. That's some hard work. No, listen, yeah. You know, really, really great card again from Cows Warriors. Always deliver. And I'm intrigued

now kicking on in a couple of weeks' time here in Cork. Who kept us up to 6 a.m. this week? It was Bellator. I fell asleep. I'm not going to lie. I only watched it today. But I just hit the Kip. Did you not, what you referenced as the dinosaur fight last week, did you not watch that between Mary and Nelson?

What you think? It was rubbish. It was just boring. It did what it said in the 10, man. And I don't know how Bellator keep continuing on like this. It sort of puzzles me a little bit, man. Like there's so much good young talents and they're not really putting them up the top of the cards. Speaking about young talent, how about this is what you do when you sign a really? Red Hop prospect from Scandinavia.

Put him in against Phil Davis in his debut. Jesus Christ. Mental. He absolutely overwhelmed him. I mean, of course he did. Of course he did. That's crazy matchmaking for me. And then Phil Davis proceeded to call for a tournament.

Well, Albrexon should be, Albrexon should be fighting Carl Moore. He should be fighting Lee Chadwick. All these guys. But I think they're running out of things to do with Davis. And they're going, oh, shit, it's just sloppy matchmaking. It's just poor from a... It's a lazy matchmaking.

Albrexon, it's a ridiculous matchup. It's ridiculous. Really disappointed with that. Ed Rout and Jason Jackson had a fantastic fight, I believe. And finally, Jake Hager kicks a lad in the stones, has his fight called off. Is it, do we put it down to inexperience again? Yeah. Yeah.

Fair enough. Literally, yeah. Like, you know, they were about standing against the cage and he just gave him a full fucking knee to the balls. A full knee to the balls is a flavor like no other. Yeah. You know, I think if you've a few more, you know, four, five, six fights on your book, you're not down that. No. and the velocity he was done at it as well

from the position they were in. I know shit happens, but it just looked very, very sloppy. And as you said, these inexperienced guys getting in there, like Greg Hardy. Greg Hardy. Yeah. Disappointing, but listen. But look, there's such a huge difference between like a Cyril Gan

at 4 and O than a Greg Hardy at 5 and whatever that fuck he is, you know? Different ball game, mate. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, like from all the toy experience and everything. Douglas Lima and Roy McDonald's. I actually quite enjoyed that fight. Douglas Lima definitely deserved the win. We talked about it.

Yeah, yeah, seemed like that was, it was going to go that way. But Paul Daly, who. Ficious. That left hook, man. Jesus Christ. Never gets old. It doesn't. You can watch it all the time.

Never gets old. I wouldn't like to be on to receive an end of it. But, yeah, listen. Again, like, he's sort of in that pickle daily. Like, it's just a tough one. I reckon just. Do him be solace, him v. Solich. Do a KSW Belltor.

That would be savage. Right? Do, de freeze, be baiter. Do daily be solidage. All that catch weights or no toil on the line, whatever, because that's, that's going to cause too much fucking problems. Let's just have a bit of crack here. That would be savage.

Let's have some crack. Him and Saladich will be fucking slick. I'd like to see that. I really would. I agree. I'm down with that. All right. There you go.

I was pickled for a minute, but I was going to say, you know, MVP's up. But you're right in terms of Belator. There isn't anything you're like, I'd love to see him, blah, blah, blah. Like, look, man, sad awad.

Come on. Side Awad, yeah. Like, come on. Patrick Mix v. Isaiah Chapman. Again. Just the Patrick Mix is phenomenal. We're very excited about him,

basically. That's just all we want to say. Another beautiful, elaborate submission win on the back of his debut win against Ricky Baner. Character as well. Yes, I can't see Bellator rushing James Gallowher to a fight against Patrick Nix. No, I think the more interesting one is Sergio Pettus. Petis obviously signed. Oh shit, yeah. For who? For Patrick? For Bellator. Now, I think James Galaher, you know, in the next, maybe in the next year, I think it's a fight, Belator might entertain. And it seems to be a lot. I put out the tweet there when I heard he was signing. It seems to be a lot of public interest amongst that fight. I think it is. I think it's a good test too, guys that are very good in the ground. I think Sergio wins the stand-up battle, but Sergio's not known for his

knockout pair. I think it's a really good test for both guys, but I don't think they will do. Not for at least another year, but I think it's one that would really get the match in that main event here. They did a great band to my tournament now, couldn't they? Could. Very well cut. They could, they could really, they could really, really do a really, really, really. That's what fucks me off about Belator. They have these, as we always talk about, these young guys and then they just sort of get lost in putting a pardon the pun the mix. Right.

Do you want me to say something controversial? Go on. Bar of the featherweight tournament. They've done a great job. Sergio Pettis fights James Galler. It's the biggest

in terms of public interest is the biggest fight of his career, I know, that's my whole point. It would be, one of Sergio Pettus. That's my point, yeah. Like, look, this is a guy who fought Joseph Benavides,

Henry Sehudo. He's for a world title. Yeah. But if he fought, if he fought James Galler, it would be bigger than those fights. That's what I think. Like, in terms of

public interest in Ireland? Yeah. Headlonging that here would be wild. That's what I'm saying. Doing it now, do it maybe next summer and the next year.

Get, you know, get Pettus in there, get him a fight, maybe get James back in there again. And just, I think it's time now where we need to see

something really sort of big test for James. I think we're at that point now. I know, you know, Sergio's only 26 as well. I think they're both young guys. Can I just say, I think it'd be fun.

Yeah, I disagree to a certain extent because I want to see the slow escalation. I don't want to see, like they did last time, here's some dude you never heard of, here's Ricky Bandias. Like, they can't do that.

That's not how you match-making. I know, I understand not. Yeah, but, like, are we at that point now, though? Um, like, I'd start, I'd start certainly considering, I'd love to see the Eleanor fights, though. Like, Cal Eleanor, give him Dom Wooding, guys like this from the...

Yeah, we don't know where Carl is at, obviously. No, no, he's cleared again. Oh, has you been cleared again? All right, great news, I didn't realize it. So, I mean, do fights like that, like, show us, like, put him against Wooding, put him against Carl Eleanor. like you know what I mean like we don't have to we don't have the trome and if he gets through them

well like Sergio in fairness his last couple of fights and I know you know obviously he was supposed to fight in December for the UFC and then it was realized his contract was up all this malarkey but Sergio hasn't looked particularly good in his last couple of fights as well I think he'd be the first three lost in his last five yeah so um that's where we're at but like yeah I would like to see that in the next in the next 12 months anyway I think it's I think it's something we could aim towards and imagine having that here man that'd be a fucking great pose of a fight to have here in Dublin Really would.

Yeah, it'd be huge. Yeah, so I guess that's everything we need to talk about. If we left something out, I'm unapologial. Tough shit. Yeah. Fuck off. There's too much on. Let's get on to...

Oh, sorry, Jason McIterre was in the crowd as well. There you go. At Bellator? No, it's Cage Warriors. Well, you see how you've jumped topic there? Sorry. I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, it's good. Yeah, don't really care.

So, yeah, let's move on. Let's get back to the Cage Warriors card. Thank you very much, Noel. And we will now speak to the champion, Joy Herbert, who, who, made a very, very, very big declaration in terms of his future and his proximity to the UFC with a very, very one-sided win over Kane Carrizo. This guy is exceptional. He's amazing to watch.

And I wish him all the best. But let's have a word with Joy Herbert and we will see you again in about 10 minutes. And now as advertories, we are joined by the Cage Warriors lightweight champion, Joy Herbert, a man who has clearly shown us that he is ready for the UFC with a fantastic, striking performance that resulted in the knockout of Kane Carrizo in the main event of Cage Warriors 109 in his native Birmingham England. Joy, it doesn't get much better than that, my friend. How are you feeling? Mate, I'm ecstatic. I'm buzzing, man. I'm really happy, man. I'm glad to be on the show. Thanks for

having me. Oh, always, always, man. And I mean, this one looked like everything just came together, okay? Like, I mean, you had to come through a little bit of adversity, I'd say, against Jack in your last outing to win the title. But this one, this one was. was just one-sided, basically just an amazing showcase performance against a UFC veteran. I mean, what has the reception been like? I've seen Patty Pimler talking about how he thinks you are going to the UFC now. I've seen Leon Edwards on several occasions say that you are ready for this. I saw Graham Boylan immediately after the main event and probably most importantly, Graham Boylan saying, this guy is ready. Does it feel like you've done enough

finally to get that call up from the UFC? Because I certainly feel like you have. Yeah, I feel like I've done enough, man. I mean, come on, like, what more do you want me to do? You know what I mean? Like, friggin' hell. That's, like, that's three, was it four or four stoppages now in the last five fights? Four or five, something like that. And three of them have been in the first round, you know what I mean?

And, like, that one, the last fight there, obviously, you don't get any more clear than that. You know what I mean? It was a clear knockout, you know what I'm saying? So I don't know what more want me to do, you know what I'm entertaining. you know so I bring I'm always in a boring fight I always bring it you know what I mean so that's what they like they like the entertainment so they should just sign me up man did you expect to get rid of him that quickly like I mean it just felt as though no I didn't right right go ahead tell me about that I didn't go on go on sorry finish your question so just saying because I mean it felt as though

I think 30 seconds in you dropped him and after that I was just like okay this guy's unbought time now Was that how you felt? Yeah, after I dropped in me, I thought, I smiled a bloody bit then. I thought, yeah, that's it then. I'm getting him out of you. You know, I said I didn't really back up. And same as the last five years, Jack. I was on their side of the cage, like, by his corner.

I literally, if he, I got the centre, because basically I'll come out and he let me get the centre. And as soon as you let me get the centre, like, I'm backing you, up you get me in, I'm landing shot, don't you? And I ain't backing back to my side of the cage. you're going back to yours and I don't want to be landing shots on you, you know what I mean. So, but be honest to me, like you say, going back to what you first said in the question about him, did I expect to get him out there so quick? I didn't. Like, to be honest, I watched some of his fights in that and I noticed, like, he's not being stopped.

So I had to say to myself in the head, look, you might hit this guy, you might hit him with the right hand, or whatever, good shot and he might be like, whatever, just like shake it off and not be, like, and keep coming forward. So I had to think to myself, my brain, look, it's going to be five, it's going to be five, five minute round, you know what I mean? You're going to have to just pick him apart, keep picking him apart on him. But then when I hit him in that right hand

and then he dropped, you know what I mean? It was if like, you know, he was just like, nah, he's, he's getting, I'm getting him out of there straight away. So that's how it went. So, yeah.

Tell me about that knee because it is ridiculous. Like, I mean, I feel like it's gone viral. I saw so many people. You know, you know many people sent me that knockout even though I was watching it live? Like so many fighters, coaches were like,

holy shit. Did you see this? I mean, that feels like it's the extra cherry on top because, of course, the UFC are going to see that attraction. But can you talk me through the knee? Did that just come to you in the moment? Or were you thinking ahead of the fight that he would be susceptible to that?

No, I didn't. I mean, I watched a couple of his fights, and it seems pretty, I've seen one of his fights where as soon as he gets in the clinch, and he looks to break, he looks to throw an elbow. I mean, he did catch me with a elbow couple of times. I've had a bit of a bit of a lump on my head, you know what I mean? So when I was in there, I know his gym's pretty good at my tyre and stuff as well,

but when I got in there and I got in the clinch with him, I felt strong in the clinch, you know what I mean? I've done that a few times with people, I felt strong in the clinch, and I just feel like sometimes I can just beat you up in here, instead of just breaking away and giving you an opportunity to throw all the haymakers at me. I can just, like, beat you up in the clinch. So I had him in the clinch, I handed a couple of nice knees to the head and to the body, but I felt like it was coming. I was gradually breaking him down

and I got the two collar ties on him. I switched the two collar ties and instead of throwing the left knee, I switched it to her right knee and I don't think he's seen it because I was just fine the left knee a lot in the fight and then I switched it straight to the right knee

and then bang that was he, it was done. Yeah, it was fantastic. What does it feel like when you land something like that and you just see the guy going limp right in front of you? Because he was out on contact. It's just like, oh,

you know, it's just that, All the anxiety and everything before the fight and that. And what was riding on the fight? You know what was riding on the fight? You know what was riding on the fight? You know what I mean? He was make or break, basically. And then he just, boom, he's just like that.

And the referee jumps in. You're like, all the pressure just goes, man. He just like, he saw relieved. Like, that's what it is really. Does it feel bigger when you do that in, like, so close to home? I mean, did it feel crazy afterwards? I'm sure everybody is trying to get a word, but you get their arm around.

you get a picture which is. Is that an insane feeling? It was unbelievable. I said, like, I was, I had so much pressure on me at first. And then I remember stepping out in the walk, on the walk out, like, and I was like,

there's like, there's, like, and it was like, I mean, the black type they were reading it then, I was like, fuck, yeah. I was like, for me, I'm getting treated like, bloody brought here. And I think, like, then watching me,

the camera had to be, like, backstage, like on the feet in that cheering and shit. I'm like, fuck me, man. You know, even more pressure on me, but I just put, I'll just get my head and bucking. And I got in there and I just,

like, spotted the geese right and around. Like, I was like, oh, my God. I was just, it's just unbelievable feeling, man. Yeah, that was amazing. The whole thing, like, it was an incredible Cage Warriors card, I must say. But one of the things that stood out to me as well was Leon, like I've talked to Leon a number of times in person,

over the phone probably more often. But I've never seen him genuinely glibly. low about someone as much as he does when he's talking about you. I mean, he was, he was praising you left, right and center every time he got an opportunity on that broadcast. And like, to me, Leon's been talking about UFC Birmingham for so long. And of course, Breezy is still signed there. But a guy like you who is so exciting to watch, who was obviously reverberated with the Birmingham people so much there. I mean, it feels inevitable that you're going to sign for the UFC. And it feels that they should make that move. But is Leon an important?

part of your camp or is that just the whole team is that basically the way you guys are yeah man it's just it's just my i think you know like everyone really wants everyone to do really well in the camp you know what i mean like i say like you say leon's there he's um he's he's really helping me out and helping me out with um you know certain things especially he's um he has a monday class there monday wrestling class everyone goes there and so it's a really really good class and he's very very knowledgeable with things he says like you know he helps you out with with all little stuff you know if you need anything you need, any help, you just asking me,

like let you know little tricks and stuff. But yeah, like, everyone's really, everyone to do well, you know what I mean? Plus, obviously, because I'm from around there,

it's just a good feeling to get, to get, like, lads from, you know, around the Midlands, Birmingham. Like, you know, so I think we should have a UFC in Birmingham,

maybe next year, probably, I think. So it's just a good thing. Like, obviously, if I get signs of UFC, you know, Leon headlines it in that.

You know, they could even, that could make other fighters like the other pros in the gym that could get signed as well if you get you know a card in Birmingham yes that's what happens in it like you know because when there's a car that comes to a certain town couple of the lads from that area

they might get signed you know what I mean they might get on the card so it's a good thing man yeah yeah look I was that was where I was going with that to be honest with you joy I was going to say it kind of feels like this is building a lot of momentum maybe more so in Europe than across the water at the moment but it does feel like to me

given Leon's position with the US at the moment and I know he's still a lot of people feel like he needs to have more cloud internationally to get himself those big names but he's owning a fight with Tyron Woodley now. If they came back to UFC to Birmingham they put on an event there, I feel it would be similar

to what Connor did for Irish fighters, you know what I'm saying? Like as in he opened the door and all you guys are just primed to walk through, you know? This is what, this is... I had, you know, I thought that the other day to be honest, it feels like that, you know what I mean? Especially when I come out there in Cajos and I walked out and then afterwards, you know,

and all the messages I'm getting and everything. And obviously, with Leon being, like, you know, the main guy there, I feel like if he gets, gets the show in Birmingham, he's just going to open the door for, like, for me. And there's going to be a few others there.

Of course. It's going to be, yeah, man. It's wicked. Yeah. It's going to be good, man. Do you feel like he's putting Renegade and Birmingham on the map?

Because I certainly feel like he is, but, like, the most appealing part for me is, like, an onion. You just keep peeling back the layers. you have Fabian Edwards, you have Joy Herbert, you have, you know, you have Natayas, you have all these guys that Renegad just seems to be absolutely swarmed with talent these days. So do you feel like he's putting you guys on the map? Yeah, 100% easy, you know what I mean?

Definitely, and there's like the amount of talent in the gym, like you just, you put it on there. You know, you got Breeze, you got Neutthaius, you got Fabian, you got Yanik, you got Aidan Lee. There's a few of us, well. ridiculous. Yeah, man. I feel like, you know, it's just,

like you're pointing on with SPG with, um, we're kind of like, he's just, he's just, open the doors for us as well.

And it just, as well, it makes a bigger scene in, in the Midlands as well. There's gonna be more kids coming through there. I mean,

more people getting into it, um, into the sport and that and just, it's just good for the sport in it as well in general, especially England. Yes,

absolutely. And it's great to see a different neck of the woods. You guys all talk different. You have a different vibe. I love that, Yeah, yeah. It's really cool. Ficky blinders, I don't mean?

Yeah, so. But I got to ask you, right, because, you know, if, like, the UFC call is a rare one to get, you certainly deserve it. We know Europe is pushing for you in that, in that manner. We all want to see you in there. But if that call doesn't happen, a lot of people want to see this Mason Jones fight. So, I mean, on the condition that the UFC doesn't come, first of all, like, is, are you cool with that? I honestly don't think Graham or make that fight

to be honest with Ian Dean I feel like no disrespect to anyone but they'll have to fly someone else someone from Brazil or certain or another American or certain for me to fight because I don't think that's a good step for me going fighting guys like anyone else in the division really at the moment

because the USA ain't going to be seeing that as me being tested. I don't see any of them being tested me to be honest with you. You want a bigger statement? You know, well, that's what I have to do. You have to go bigger, you don't know what I mean? And all the other guys in the division, like, you know, I'm not a type of, I don't like to talk shit about people,

all that things, you know, because I understand, like, my martial arts, you know what I'm respect for people and that, but I need bigger tests, man. I need bigger tests, bigger tests than these people in the division. So I'm sorry, but, like, that's how he's, broff. I've never heard you say this before either. Like, you know, to be fair, I've never heard you turning down fights. You take every fight that's put in.

in front of you, but does the belt and given all this UFC talk, does that put you in a, in a nearly a different situation where you have to say, my next move is very important. I need to make sure it's the right opponent and the right statement I'm making to get on their radar. Is that the way you're kind of seeing it? Well, yeah, exactly. Like, that's what, it's what Breeze did you get me. I was, like, saying before the fight, like, I was saying to Breeze, like, oh, I was like,

who start fighting next and I was like naming, well, not who start fighting next, like, who they might have given me next, like, I was naming a couple of last. from the roster like and he's like, no man, we need to go international we need to fight a next a geese who's fought in the UFC, a next UFC fighter or someone who's doing bits in America because that's going to get you in

notice by the UFC because these guys ain't on your level. I need to be fighting better people, so that's what I'm going for. Like if the UFC don't court, I have to go and fight someone else who's like killing it in America or something. So, you know, they have to get me in. I understand. I do understand. I understand.

Because, like, another thing as well, some of these people are being, like, built up by K's where we're just, and to fight me, it's going to be a bad move for them. For real, dog, you know what I mean? Like, because I'm a next level kid to compare to some of these guys, and I'm telling you. I have an apology to make before I get you off the phone, Joanne. What's that?

I'm so much for your time. Oh, for fucks. Man, I am so, do you know I wrote it accidentally into the report because I was joking with someone about it? Because this is a problem, right? because I said this genuinely serious that first time. And then everybody, of course, is giving out shit to me online. I got it wrong, hands up.

I know I did. Then I put it in the report by accident after the fight. And then Brad Wharton sends me a picture of they actually put it up on the graphics in Cage Warriors as well. Yeah. I'm fucking watching it yesterday. My little stepdaughter. She's going, fucking on the put black country badger there. Oh, fuck sake.

I was like, fuck sake. I'm very sorry, Jo. And then my old man, my old man keeps sending me, fuck you. media stuff like that he keeps because you got always gone online looking for stuff about me there's got black country badger in this black country badger you fucks black country badger it's a joke it's a accidental joke that's taken on a life of its own i'm i apologize very much i hope you don't feed me that right hand the next time you see me that's my biggest fear no no no that no that bro all right but but listen uh joy thank you so much for your time

again another stunning performance um what you've done from the balma days to now is absolutely mind-blowing. You're one of my favourite for it is to watch in Europe, and whatever happens next, I'll definitely be tuning in, and I think I can say the same for the rest of the European anime community. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me on the show, brother. All the best, man. Talk to you soon, right? And thank you very much to Mr. Joy Herbert,

the Black County Banger, not Badger. Black Country, Badger. Is it Black Country? Black Country. He's from the Black Country. That's what they call it. It's not the Black County. No, no, no, the black country. It's like up around West Brom, Wolverhampton, Birmingham.

Sorry, Joy. I'll get it eventually, me. I'll get it eventually. Look, you have to leave it with me, man. Happy days. Happy days, happy days. Yeah, so, I mean, it's the talk of the town. UF.C.

244, yes indeed. The biggest card of the year, would you say? Yeah. I think so. I think so. I think Is it? Yeah

Probably is Probably is probably is Probably is Look I mean I feel like I was at two big events The ones that came before it is With Abu Dhabi

UAC U.S.C. 242 Habib Against Porier And then of course UFC 243 With the arrival Of the biggest star to be In the UFC

Whitaker and Atisania Yeah But I think the star power This one has Straight off the bat Like we're not talking about creating a star as much as two bona fide stars and Jorge Mazzvedal and Nate Diaz going head to head

and that common main event is outstanding. Mald Gisvadole. The, uh, Kelvin Gasselm v. Darren Thiel. Did I always call him Mazzvedal? No, that's the American's calling. Sorry, I was like, all right. Where are you at with this?

Let's talk about the main news coming out with this. Diaz and another U-Sada U-turn when it suits them, which I don't like. Yeah, no, totally agree. I think it's either fucking black and white, like get rid of it. Yeah, no. fucking Brock Lesnar, Nate Diaz, John Jones.

I said this straight away. They're going to turn this around. They're going to completely absolve them of this. And then all the other people. Sean O'Malley, John Jones, I fully understand those guys talking about like, fuck this. Yeah. You know, even though John Jones has benefited from the rub of Usada before.

You know, we've talked about this for God knows how long. And I think, you know, coming out with this flagging bullshit before, you know, they actually have everything and all the, um, and they've figured out everything as a fucking pace take. And, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

should not be allowed. And it should not happen. And it's, it's, it's very damaging to, to guys careers, man. It really is. Well, first of all, the fighters should have been involved in any decision-making process that usada were having with the USC because these guys, a lot of them, I'm not talking about the ideas, but, you know, I'm sure you could look down that card and find someone who was on a living wage, basically, from the US,

UFC and the fact that they have to give up where they're going to be 24 hours a day it's bullshit it's I mean look there should be there should have been a lot more fighter interaction making this deal for me now it's completely gone it's it's a circus so I don't give a shit about it was that anymore I really I understand look I want clean sport but when when the criteria isn't black and white for every fighter and every fighter is given the same treatment then fuck it I don't care no I agree I think um it's become so messy so fractured, I think the word is a good word to use with the whole process of USAT and I do, I agree.

And look, I know that NAD hasn't taken steroids. I get it. I don't think he is. He's never even even suspect him of it. That doesn't matter. That's not what I'm talking about. And he's right to make that statement and, you know, ask for the UFC and USADA to issue before apology. That's what they did. They did. They ended up bend in the knee and rightly so

because. Well, I don't know if it's rightly so. That's the one part that I'll disagree with it. Yeah, of course, we know we're very confident in the ideas. It shouldn't have happened. But when they fucked up, you know, he obviously wants to fight. He comes back. They should be bending the knee to get him back in there. But if they're bending the knee, go away.

Where's Sean O'Malley? Yeah, it shouldn't be happening. I totally agree. 14 months, gone. Totally. His career. His prime. Gone.

14 months. We looked like he was going to be one of the biggest stars in the sport. Yeah. Listen, I'm not arguing. But like, where do you stand then in terms of, you know, should the UFC just go fuck off? I know they've just signed a new five-year deal during the summer there. They need to look at the criteria and make it black and white. But we've been saying this for God knows for fucking long.

They need to involve the fighters. The fighters, just put up, get, I don't know how many. Get a fucking union together, lads. Jesus Christ, like, it's so, like, how are you all going to come together and act as one body in a situation like this? If you don't have a body, you know, it's mind-no. You know, that's not going to happen. The pay discrepancies are too much.

And they say, why don't you guys talk about this to the media members? Yeah, what do we do? Start your life out, lads. Like, do your own shit, like, you know, to be honest, which is, that's more your business than it is, I guess. It's a total, total mess, though. And, you know, we talk about the updated lists and, you know, there's not an awful lot done with that. And Jeff Novitsky was harping on about that before that they're going to constantly make an effort over the next six months to update these lists so fighters can know what they're putting their body in terms of tainted supplements. What a load of shit.

They've done nothing about it. All I'm saying is that my fighting comes up to me and say, Pizzi, we're going to need to take some drug tests from now. And I'm going to say an extra six figures every year, please. I agree to Forrest and I think you know the UFC especially after this one it's going to cost them a lot of money down the line as well you know it is costing them a lot of money to have this testing in place if it's not right it's messing up their pay-per-view cards

they're going to have to seriously review something or get something done about this again and I think this is sort of a team we've used over the last few weeks shit I get off the fucking pot anyways absolutely Darren Till or he or get off the porcelain there you go we have our own own one now. Darren Till had a media day last Friday

in Nottingham. I didn't go because my face was smashed to pieces but the, I have to say, after listening to him speak about this Kelvin Gaslam match not that I think it's a good idea all of a sudden, but I understand of it a hell of a lot more. Like I understand his

mindset, I respect his mindset and I don't like, it's given me a bit more belief as in this is something I've always said about Till him and McGregor are most similar. Yeah. in the fact that they can make you believe. And when I was listening to him speak about it, I was going, shit, he's convincing me again, man,

even though he's on this two-fights kid. But I still don't like it. Maybe he can do it. Yeah, yeah. No, that's it. No, but I admire how confident he is, but I still don't think it's a good idea from the UFC. But it's definitely giving me more intrigue

ahead of this fight and think it's way more of a contest than I initially did. Yeah, and listen, the one thing I am going to say about this is it fucking pisses me off people's shit. on Darntail going, oh, you know, what an idiot for taking this fight. Listen, right, at the end of the day, you know... I don't think anyone said that. I think they were like...

A lot of the fans have said it. They were like UFC, why are you matching these voters? And I think that's perfectly acceptable. Yeah, no, listen, we were the first ones to probably feck and say it. You know, we didn't totally agree with this matchup and Darren taking this fight against a guy like Kelvin Gaston. He was coming off, obviously that feckin interim title fight against Israel Adisani, which was a schlobber knocker.

but you know in terms of translation and how fresh Darren might feel you know you talked about his brain earlier on off air you know obviously the dehydration of the brain when he's cutting so much weight obviously it's taken away from the water that surrounds your cranium

that allows you to absorb blows so if you do get a big hit it's more likely to knock you out if you're dehydrated exactly so Darren's going in here you know going to be way more comfortable in making the weight he looked like a machine gun at that fucking open workout man that's what I'm saying you could hear the media lads

like holy shit you know what I'm like but even the guys gas tank the way everything's going to translate over. Like, maybe we could see it, Darren. It is a risk regardless. But if Darren goes out and sparks him, and look, if you look at the Israel-Azania fight, so he's making me fucking believe now here again, right?

If you look at the Adisania fight and Gasslam fight, whose fight? All right, sorry, sorry, yeah. If you look at that fight in terms of, you know, Darren's striking, you know, you can hurt Kelvin. Kelvin can get hurt, and it doesn't take an awful lot in terms of that left hand of Darren Hill's thrown at you. I mean, one of the best strikers of the world,

punch in the face. It probably does take a lot of it. to work Kelvin Gaslam, you know? No, no, I don't mean it like that.

I'm talking about in terms of Darren Till laying, you know, strikes on him. You know, you can't stay there and take it all day.

He's such a big dude, man. But one thing I will say is, like, you mentioned gas tank there. I don't think the losses to Woodley or Hamasville had anything

to do with a gas tank. No, but I'd be talking about the gas tank in terms of, you know, in his training, not having to cut the weight

three weeks beforehand, you know, he's going to feel a lot more replenished. Oh, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Maybe it was wrong word I used, but yeah, that's how I feel.

And I think, listen, it's going to be a fascinating match. And, you know, as you said there, the fucker does done it again. He's made us believe. He's made us think. Can I just ask you one thing? He did say that whether Israel at Assania wins or loses to Paulo Costa. And he said, I don't give a shit about the title. He said, whether Israel wins or loses to Costa, I think I should fight Israel next.

I don't, like, when you hear that and you see it written down, you're like, what are you talking about me? but I wouldn't put a pass the UFC why did they make that fight? Why did they make Calvin Gasselin be Darren Thiel if they didn't expect him to go straight into a toilet conversation? Listen, I think maybe the UFC might be a bit more confidence here

in what Darren Thale can do than we are. Yeah, yeah. You know, maybe they know, maybe they know. I don't know, but it is interesting and, you know, I wouldn't put a pass Darren Till because Darren is this, he sort of knack, as you said, if he does go out and spark him,

why wouldn't they do it? Yeah. And traditionally over the last couple years, they've been fucking striking one The orange is hot. Look, look, man. And what about that for the middleweight division? First, you have Costa v. Adesania and then potentially Costa v. Till or Adesania v. Till.

And there's a lot of political ramifications to Paolo Costa v. Darren Till in the Brazilian communities. Massive. Because as far as I know, and I'm sure people are going to be annoyed about me saying this, but I've heard that Paulo Costa is very much on the right side of things, you know, as in the conservative view of things. Oh, right, okay, yeah. Like really conservative. And where Darren Till is very liberal, as we know.

But that would be interesting. but will we see, it's such a good man, car we may as well go through the whole thing. Vincente Leuke is a violence king. Violence king. But will he be able to be violent against Stephen Thompson?

Like we've seen even the likes of Till, it was incredibly violent at the best of Till is very violent. We saw him kind of lured into a far more tentative fight with Stephen Thompson. Yeah, I think the way Luque fights, he might take a leave out of Anthony Pettis' book,

and I know Pettis was probably getting a little sparked up as well. Just nearly allowed Thompson to come on, that's what I mean, give him confidence. Come in. and then wrap him with a few. It's a dangerous game to play against Thompson, though. Like, Thompson is such good fight IQ that it's hard really to do anything else.

And we've seen that, you know, the Woodley fights and I Woodley stitched him at one in the first fight. Second fight was largely sort of forgettable in many people's eyes with the lack of, what, 17 strikes or something to the whole fight. Stellar. But, yeah, I think it's a fascinating fight. And it's interesting where Stephen is going to be odd as well.

You know, he's had numerous knee surgeries again, being out on the brick for a while. It's a maker. break fight for Wonderboy. I think he needs a win here badly, man, if he wants to stay around that, you know, conversation. And if not, right, yeah, I agree. Move him up.

Blagoe, Evenoff versus Derek Lewis. I don't think this is a good fight for Derek Lewis and I feel like there will be good betting odds on Blagoe. That's all I'm going to say to you people in Europe. Yeah, but you know, Derek. Yeah, I mean, strange things have happened. You know, ask Wolkopf. His balls were hot

and he fucking, he pulled that one out of the bag. Yeah, exactly. So. I'll be sending him. him all types of creams to cool his ballics down. You don't know what to fuck to expect off Derek Lewis. That's,

it's simple as that. Like, he could be a battered for fucking two and a half rounds and then come back and just, boom, yeah.

And land you a shot and you're done. So, is there anything? This will I never write out Lewis. No, never. Is there anything

black eye could do to guarantee that Derek's balls will be cold when they fight? She's weird. That's a very weird. Very weird question.

Very weird question. I don't know. No. Kevin Lee v. Gregor Gillespie. Gregor finally getting that step up. That's a really good fight, isn't it? Last fight, man.

It's a really good fight. That's, again, Kevin, it's going to be very interesting. He's going back down, isn't he? So, you're just like... The 170 experiment didn't go his plan. Yeah, and we talked about Kevin as well before. I just think he's a little bit... He's just a little bit, maybe lost at the moment,

and he's trying to find where's the perfect fit. Obviously, the tragic death of a great guy in Robert Follas. Really sort of rattled him, I think, to his core. He spoke a lot more about that He has, he has And Kevin's a good dude I remember we sat down in Belfast But actually Rob and Kevin

And had a drink with him That was just you That wasn't me And um Oh it wasn't it was just so we had a few anyway But yeah Kevin Kevin's a lot different I think away from the angry guy We used to see you know

When he's out of he's actually a really nice dude And this is a really really good fight man Gillespie's been as you said calling for that one So I'm interested to see What sort of we're going to see From Kevin Lee here I'm more interested in what we're going to see from Gillespie. Are you? I just think it's intriguing with Lee

that he's been sort of underwhelming in his last couple of fights and, you know, mentally not in a good place. But he does seem to be back at that level now. But he seems to be right there, thereabouts at 155. Yeah, he does. The total conversation was. He does. I think this is a fight for Gillespie that will obviously elevate him into that top 10 and go, you know,

I'm here to stay and I think he needed that. Either that or Kevin Lee's right back on track and he's after dispensing one of the best prospects in the 55. Well, that's it. You know, it is one of those fights. and I think we're going to see something here from Kevin Lee. I think he's had that period of trying to find himself. He's been working a little bit all over the place. He'd back up at home and I think he was up in Rufusport for a while.

Then he's up in, he's up to Canada now. So it's going to be, listen, Greg Hart, loved that fight as well. I think that could be a standout fight at night one there. Cori, honestly, Johnny Walker is a serious fight as well, massive ramifications. As we said last week, we didn't think that Reya has done enough to really absolutely guarantee. himself that John Jones fight. John Jones doesn't seem too intrigued

by it. I think Johnny Walker's the type of guy that could light a fire in Jones because he's so explosive and wild in there, but Corey Aniston's a hard fight at the moment. Yeah, you don't look over. Corey's deadly now, man. You don't look over Corey. He's a changed man. He is. Since that man of a knockout,

we both were in London for him. Yeah, yeah. And that was a bad one. And, you know, Corey's so many tools as well. You know, really solid boxer, a great, really good wrestler. He's a guy that can nullify fights. And I think he could be a guy that could really give Johnny a lot of problems here. I agree, yeah. If that fight goes, the sort of way that Corey wants to make a grindy, gritty in your face,

it could be a little bit of an upset here. I sort of fancy Cory Anderson to win this. I don't know why, man. Yeah, same here. Just one more from a European perspective that we'd like to highlight. It's Macwan Amircanis' US debut against Shane Burgos' tough old debut in the US, but definitely one will be intrigued to see. Also on the card from a European perspective,

we have the great Andre Arlofsky from Belarus who has taken on Jerzino Rosenstruck. I didn't even know who's still fighting. And Noel is such a big fan of what Andre is doing at the moment. Right, I'll tell you what we're going to do. We're going to run through the card and pick just very quickly on a select few points. Masvedalvi Diaz, go.

Oh, fuck. You start with the worst one that are. We go, we go backwards. No, we go backwards. You're right, right, right. um right we'll start off with chukagin who should be in the floy way title mix against moya chukagin i can remember caldha will speak in in abo dabu about this she was like if she wasn't so barren she probably would be fighting for the title you know um you know they obviously had a very close fight there um so

yeah chukagin v moya who you got i'm gonna go with kately and just and she'll grind out a decision and too quick on the feet and too elusive agree shame borgoes v macuan amircanny um i will go I'm Burgos I'll go Ameri canny just for the crack but I think

it's a very hard fight Cory Anderson v. Johnny Walker Unpopular against our local Sandiment resident

here but I just have a feeling here Corey's gonna be able to make this fight go the way he wants it yeah I think he is

too much for him too I really do yeah I'm going with Corey too Kevin Lee versus Gregor Gillespie

Kevin I'm going Gregor okay Lewis v. V. Ivanov Derek with something mental At the last minute he'll knock him out I'm saying

Get whooped for the fight And then he'll do something I'm gonna say Ovenoff decision Thompson v Luka Fuck I find it I find it hard That Thompson's gonna make the same

mistakes again I think he's I think we could see something very violent from Stephen Thompson Oh shit And I think Luka has that in his pocket as well Obviously we You know the guy's a killer

I'm a big fan of Luke's I think Stephen needs to needs to do something here. And I think I think we want to see Stephen Thompson in this. I can see go either way though. I'm going to go

Thompson decision there again. Gasselm v. Till. How much do you believe? Fuck, he's done it again. I'm going to fuck it. I'll pick it from the crack. I'll go Darren Till, violent knock out in the second. I'm going to go Calvin Gaston's submission. You are right to make me do this in reverse order. Jorge Masvedal v. Nate Diaz,

motherfucker. It's five by four. five. That's so good that it's five rounds, man. Oh, my God. It is. This could go four rounds. It is. Listen, I'd love to see Till Gasland five as well. I think this, you know, I'm harping. I'm God knows how long.

I love, you have seen to do something 2020 about co-made events. Non-title. There need to be five rounds. A lot of them have to be implications. All right, yeah, Mazbel will be Diaz, though, yeah? Mazabal versus Diaz. I'm going to go Diaz. I think the volume of boxing in your face, it's going to be a slobernock around the feet.

If, obviously, Nate decides to go to the deck, he could possibly get a submission. but I do expect it to stay in the feet and I think his volume, Christmas of boxing is going to be the difference here but I think we're in for a fucking war, yeah. I agree with you. I am going Diaz very much so. But I'd also like to remind people

that it was the doubt Masvedal had going into his till and Ascrumboats that made him this big star that he is right now. But if he goes in there and starches fucking Diaz, the world's the sky's the fucking limit, man. It is, isn't it? Yeah, it really is. You can do it?

He's shown us he can do it. I think he's too savvy to get submitted by Diaz. Like he's very, he's not known for his submission skills or whatever, but when he's trying ATT, he's very comfortable in shit situations. You know, incredibly comfortable. He is. He's comfortable anywhere. I think so.

I just have a feeling Diaz by decision. I think both of them have stellar gas tanks. Both of them are unbelievable boxing. I think it's fair to say Masvedal probably packs more power with his last two COs. Yeah, that's what I'm saying in his last. two fights he's found that element. Knees, you can't really judge as stopping power because anyone that's running through the air

and throwing a technique like that, is going to have a lot of power. But is knock out a tail but it's fucking savage. It was. And the thing is, you know, he's not going to allow, Diaz is not going to allow him any sort of space in this fight. He's not going to let him create

a range. And I think that's where the fight's going to be won. It's going to be contested in the pocket. And I think that's where Masvedal is going to struggle to really land a bond. Here's one for you. It's just the last one on this card.

If it goes as we predict it will go and Diaz wins, do you think he even mentions Connor's name and his post-fight? Last time everyone expected, it's going to be Connor and he says Masvedal and he makes the biggest fight here.

Where does he go? No. I don't think he does it because I think he knows Connor. Connor's come out and said and they both sort of said it and I know it was very smart move the last time.

We talked about that, that got McGregor interested it again but you know Connor's done the press conference this week and it is very much good looking like either cowboy or Gaichi and then we're gonna you know he's laid out that plan as you said so in theory regardless of what he said

it doesn't really make sense at the moment in my opinion so what does Nate want to do does he want the title does you give a fuck about the title is this you know I don't like either of those fights for him yeah Ousman or Covington I do like GSP yeah no I don't like either than fights either but I don't like GSP in terms of a matchup

but I don't like either but I don't like either of a matchup but I do like it in terms of a marquee. Yeah. Like, I think that will appeal to Diaz because the money he could make from that. Rather than, as he has said himself, Usman and Colby, he doesn't think they're big business. And look, compared to with Diaz,

Masbado, he's right, like. He is right. And it's, yeah, now, it's going to be interesting to see where he goes after. Masmidal wins they're going to have to do, it is a tough one. Regardless of what happens between Usman and Colby, I think. Yeah. I think, I think if Covington was

to beat Usman, and I think he's every chance of beating usman. I'm not real incalibia out at all of that fight and a lot of people seem to be for some reason. Very even skill sets, both of them are. Very, very even skill sets. And, you know, it would be fascinating just in terms of shit talk

and the way both guys conduct themselves, Diaz and fucking Covington would be great crack, I think. I really do. I'd love to see that happen. Whether it happens or not, whether Nate's interested in that. Covington has to make himself a big star in December that's going to happen. Yeah. And listen, I don't see the GSP thing happening

because like I'm not sure. You don't even want to do business with it. Yeah. And like GSP, like, you know, can't even fight at 170? It wouldn't make sense for Nate really to go above 170. It's sort of dead in the water for me. So, I think GSP can definitely fight at 170 because he ruined his body trying to make middleweight.

Yeah. Yeah. Does it interest me? Not really. Doesn't it? Not. With the revenge plot with him and Nick all those years. You know, GSP doesn't really sell that shit. Like, so. Yeah. Yeah, but no.

Yeah. I definitely watch it but I think you know why won't fucking NACA go after a title go after the title give it a shot

give it a run and I know he goes oh fuck the titles it's not about the titles but how interesting would that scenario be I don't know it's just they kind of cheap

in their titles themselves well they all have yeah no but just in terms of the UFC I can see where he's going like fuck the titles go after the money because the titles there's interim champions

there's lads getting title shots off one fight win streak you know listen he's the option of 55 as well there's fights there to be made. I think there's still a lot of fights there to be made for him.

And why not sort of smash back down there? But listen, let's get this one out of the way, see what happens. And I do think it'll be victorious on Saturday night. There's just so much you can sort of do it, Nate. And you can bring up people as well. I think we forget that. As you said there earlier on, like with Masvado. Where is there a star in the UFC where they want to go,

oh, fuck, let's, you know, this guy could potentially beat Nate. You know, he's up at that level. Let's bring this guy over. up and put some fucking eyes on him. It'll happen with Masvladic. They need to start bringing along other pay-per-view stars as well because we're pretty short in them at the moment, Pizzi. That's true.

Yeah, so we'll cap it off there and we can talk some shite now for the next few minutes. But we talk shite the whole show, so what's the point in the... That's not devoid up into a section. But do you think you're going to go to that January 18, card? We'll see, maybe. If someone's the fucking butter,

put on me, put on me paw. And listen, I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I think it would be probably a shame not to go because I think, you know, something always fucking happens with that fella. Yeah. So, yeah, anytime I go to a fight card in the States as well,

something mental happens. So if I'm there, it's more likely to be cooler. The last fight I went to sea of Connors is Eddie Alvarez. And I can just imagine how much has changed in two years. Well, that's the interesting thing. Like, I mean, when I went over, all I kept ringing you when you're at Mayweather and Habib was how many Irish people are there, how many Irish people are there?

And it was very conflicting reports, but of course I believed Anoyle McGrath and Phil O'Connor who had been at all the previous fights. But I'd love to just see it for myself, you know? Is it the plastic Paddy Baguade? Yeah, it will be. I'm from Dublin, Ireland. Well, that's what happened to Abeeb fight. There was very few.

There was a lot of Irish people there, but a lot of them, the UFC prized their fans for that fight as well. Tickets for that fight were 350 bucks. for the Habib fight in Team Mobile. So a lot of Irish people actually went over, man, for the fight, but actually didn't go to the fight. They just stayed there for the party.

But inside the arena, there were way more plastic parties, definitely. Lovely, definitely. But listen, I will probably go. We are going to be heading to the Cage Warriors media day tomorrow, Tuesday. The day this comes out, we will be at that media day as you're listening to this. Really getting excited for that now.

Only two weeks away. still haven't got my fucking car yet but hopefully I will be sorted out in time for them I'm excited to see obviously Reese McKee at you know well to wait and obviously in Gary as well the kid who just looked so impressive

under Chris Fields and the lads there team what's the get? KF, Jesus Christ Jesus Christ my brain has melted I'm talking about 700 different fight cards but interesting and you know

I'll be on to Reese there on texting earlier last week and he's he's just buzzing to get down to cork and he said he's going to prove the world why he should be in the ultimate fighting championship so very interesting a couple of weeks ahead in terms it's good just to have cage warriors back as well man we've missed them and you know obviously bellator sort of dominated the market here so let's just hope to show well they dominated the market because no other promoters was allowed in really yes well that's what i'm trying to get i don't want any legal action coming my way so yeah that's what people were saying.

Allegedly. That's what the man on the street was saying. But I think we all know that. And yeah, it is. It's going to be good. And I think just to have another option for pro fighters to get on fight cards here is... Well, it's the path of the UFC. And that's why it's getting boring for Irish people at the moment because we have Joe Duffy,

who is pretty inactive, to be fair. Connor McGregor, who Lord knows when he's going to fight again, he says January 18th, we're very... He doesn't know. You know? But, yeah, so it's good to have... It's good to have that interest. Bellator doing themselves no favors. I mean, they're selling out cards here.

We can't really ask for much more, but they could definitely make some more compelling fights. Yeah. Right, we're going to leave it there. We talked a lot of showy for you. We're back in the same room for the first time in about three, four weeks. So love you's loads. See us next week.

And enjoy... Just go home. Get out of my fucking house. Enjoy UFC 244. Biggest card here. Mwap.