MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 59 (w/ Graham Boylan, Paddy Holohan)

Episode Date: November 5, 2019

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Cage Warriors CEO Graham Boylan (21:00) joins the podcast to discuss Cage Warriors returning to his native Co. Cork and next generation of Irish UFC fighters. Paddy Holohan (53:00) also drops in to discuss the launch of his autobiography, Hooligan. Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath looked back at the latest news in European MMA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's a thought-provoking sci-fi journey where identity, memory, and morality collide. Robert J. Sawyer does it again with this much-anticipated sequel that leaves you asking, what are you willing to lose to save the ones you love? The downloaded two, Ghosts in the Machine, available now only from Audible. Welcome back. It's episode 59 of Eurobach, and we're in Dublin City Center today, because I'm busy later on, we can't get access to a car, all this kind of wonderful stuff. So we met up on the beautiful south side. We are in the south side, but we are buying it.

the city of Canada, obviously. Well, I mean, your commute was, what, 20 minutes open on the road since about 8 a.m.

Yeah, but you live in the 6th though, you don't really live in Dublin. I mean, listen, bad form. You're from Kildareme.

It's a lovely day here, isn't it? Yeah, it's, it's poxy, it's really bad. It's really bad. There's weather, severe weather warnings for this evening and Dublin for rain,

so, what a weekend, Peecy, let's get to it, man. Yeah, huge, huge, huge weekend.

Well, I didn't really watch anything else apart from the UFC, huge card massive event massive massive event of Madison Square Garden of course Jorge Mazvedal run away with that fight against Nick Diaz even

unfortunately to fight being called off in the turret round we'll talk all about that later a disappointing conclusion to the BMF situation there you know before we get to the news how did you how did you enjoy the event

I love them one of the best cards of watching a long long time I think we spoke about some of the fights last week. They definitely delivered the ones we'd mentioned. A real nice, I think, of positives for the world of mixed martial arts and we needed it. Even with, you know, Donald Trump being there. Yeah, that's huge.

Whether you like him or you don't like him. The fact that he was at a UFC event was unbelievable. The traction was insane. It was funny, right, because Dana White in the Postway, press conference is going, Barack Obama went to NBA games, George Bush went to baseball games, but Trump goes to MMA and I was like,

what does that say about MMA? it does but it's listen just have those eyes on the sport for that night and yeah I agree with them in terms of that you know why not go to Mix Marshaler's events why not go to the UFC the UFC the UFC is a big brand nearly as well

it's not far off it from where it's come from massive massive night for the sport and you know even saw the zone moving the start time of their fight to later on and that just proves something that the UFC and UFC 224 was the hottest ticket in town in the United States last Saturday night I usually stay up to watch the boxing as well

I was so emotionally exhausted by the end of the bed. I turned it on, it was like, Oconella walking out, and I was like, ah, you know what? I was an actor. I watched sport all day. The only time I sort of left the vicinity of the television on Saturday was to have a shower, and that was after the England. Fair place for having a shower.

Sometimes you don't even get that far, you know what I mean? Just, ah, well, you stop now? I hate smelly people. I watched sport all day. It was great. Had a, you know, just a wonderful night. I was really, really happy the way, like Kevin Lee as well, for example. What a changed mentality.

And we spoke about that. to see a guy sort of mature in front of her eyes, especially now for mixed martial arts, I think. Yeah, well, look, let's have a look at the latest news here for a second. This is number one bullshit. Darren Till is successful in his middleweight debut in the calm main event of UFC 244. UFC Working on Habib versus Tony for March, according to Dana White, with the event's post-point press conference.

Connor McGregor charged with a salt fine at 1,000 euros last weekend, I believe it was Friday, November 1st. Walt Harris is out of his main event, clash with Alcer Overeem at UFC, Washington. Due to the disappearance of his stepdaughter, a lot of people chipping in with reward money and stuff there now. It's a terrible, terrible situation. I hope that gets started. Yeah, definitely here.

Cyril Gan, it will be back in action against Tanner Bossar in Busan, which he told us. He would be interested in when he appeared on the Robash last week. Cadiz Ibrahimov replaces Anticulov against Eddie Herman in Moscow this weekend. Charlie Ward via Piotro Panini Moved to Bellator, London Ross Houston, this is a weird one Ross Houston had a Polaris bout but he was forced out of it

throwing some shade at CW there Interesting though, I kind of understand it Like the champion The champion not being allowed to beat in the Well, Potty Pembick got injured Well, he's fighting next week I know, but he got injured, no, a few months ago during the summer Yeah, yeah

No, but it was the famous one is Brett Johns He's Brett Johns He got Tom Halpin ripped his knee off I've spoke about it. I'm not for it. I think, you know, the promotion... I don't think you're going to argue with that. I don't think you're going to argue with that.

I think it's something that needs to happen to mix Marysart's where these guys who are actively fighting on the roster shouldn't be allowed competing these events. I think it's crazy, to be honest. Yeah, Moyles Price, just the final bit of his bout with Alfie Davis. He revealed that over the weekend as well, so that's a bit of a blow for Irish fans going to tune into that Bellator card. Just to run through a few of these, maybe we'll leave the TIL stuff and the 244 stuff to later on. but what do you think of the news of Cyril Gahn turnaround

I mean I felt like when he was on the show last week it was pretty obvious that he was going to it because he kept talking about South Korea I think if you look at his fight and the victory he had he didn't take an awful lot of damage in that fight so I'm not too surprised with the turnaround I think he's a guy who wants to be very active in the division climb the roster climb the scales

and you know I've no problem he's young in his UFC career and his mixed martial arts pro career anyway as well so the more fights he can get in the better if he's no damage why not go ahead do it like this is the thing right after that was announced it came out that Walt was out of that fight with Overing which I was glad to see to be honest because of the situation

oh yeah 100% 100% and I was like why don't you just put Gan in with Overin and then if people are going crazy but I was like the reason why I'm saying this is because they're making Volcoffee Hardy I'm like clearly we don't give a shit anymore and I mean at least Overim is in the same skill set wheelhouse

as Gan As, you know, as Gann is a striker, over him's a striker. Like, I mean, he's an elite striker as well. So, I mean, I don't feel like it's going to be a devastating, a devastating disparity in skill sets, you know? But maybe they just want to keep Cyril for a little bit longer. Maybe, you know.

I feel like they want him to headline that event, right? In Paris. He said to us he wants some, the first French event. Yeah, yeah, 100%. That's what I think they're probably aiming to do there because, you know, as you said, there's been so much hype around this guy. And maybe there's just a slower push there.

Maybe they're not as excited as Greg Hart. Maybe Dana's trying to throw him to the wolves after those two mistakes and listen, at least they've removed it from main event to Moscow this weekend. But in terms of Ghani, I have no problem with him fighting in Korea. Interesting this with Ross Heweson, right? Like, I get it, right?

He's proven that he's worthy of the U.S.C. pretty much and he's in that situation where he's waiting for it. But I've seen this too many times where guys are just that one fight away and they start getting thick with... Promoters. Yeah. And look, I understand you get a lot more money off cage, or you're at Bellator if you go there and stuff

but do you want to be in the EuroC that's the question that is and that was a big debate this week like I mean before he fought Talby he gave me like all this about how you wouldn't want to go to Belator not that he's suggesting that he wanted to go over Belator but he does seem annoyed right he does seem disgruntled by his situation yeah he does

but like at the end of the same of he saw by Paul Harris and getting in there and wanted to do that you know keep your eyes in the game in hand and that's going out there in that division and beating guys and listen he's not too far away if Nicholas Dalby's getting signed. He's right there, like, he's right there.

So I don't understand it. It's gruelting us. Stick it out for another little bit, another little while. And you'll ultimately get to the big show if you're with K. George, it's going to happen time and time again. And, you know, Joy Herbert, for example, as Graham said to us last week, that he's pretty much in talks with the UFC over signing him. So, like, Houston is right there.

Yeah. So calm down, bud. Yeah, I understand. It's right. Like, from what he said, I just pulled it up here, he said he's Facebook yeah

not fucking happy at all feel pretty trapped to be fair I gave my health and heart for them over my seven fights company

and look I can understand what he feels like that but well the way it's on fire right now you're the champion at the vision and I think it is

as well obviously the lure of Bellator the money and you know we know guys I don't know I'm obviously naming them

but I have turned down contracts from Bellator because they want that dream of fighting the UFC and listen if you're going to come out and so a lot of stuff

last week if you're going to come out and talk rubbish. We'll talk about that later on because we're doing the preview. But that is it. Listen, it's a slower burner if you're going into Cage Warriors, if you want to go to the UFC. It's obviously... We'll get into this later on.

But that's the point I'm trying to make. What I'm saying here is that, you know, if you want to stick it out, it's a slower burner. I know the frustrations are there, but you've chosen that path, so stick to it. Yeah, absolutely. Just a few talking points. We'll move on from the news.

A cautionary end to the BMF title fight. I mean, look, I feel like, if it's anywhere else in the world that fights continued New York are known to be extra cautious in this kind of sport it's hard to be angry about that I guess but I do feel like if you are

going to be officiating a Diaz contest and you haven't seen his propensity to get cut in that exact spot every single fight I mean do a bit of you do your due diligence you know what I mean like come in and know where to go his scar tissue but the one thing I will say and I did even retract this

on social media you know I thought it looked worse afterwards. Obviously, when we saw a close-up of his face. It was hanging off going to down away. It didn't look great, man. If you looked at images, the Getty images put out, and it was pretty nasty looking. So the more I see it, after the broadcast,

broadcast, I was raging. Why is this being stopped? Why has this been stopped? And then I looked at it, you know, 10 minutes after when there was a close-up and Getty put a few images out. It looked pretty bad. Esther put up a picture of his cut against Pettis.

Yeah. And it's exactly the same. Yeah. But yeah, listen, I know, I know where you're getting from, and I know York are a disaster. And actually Michael Chandler put out at a post as well. We saw Ariel talking to jail, and I think it was, it was another professional fighter, I'm not too sure it was. And they were saying, like, every single one of them was like if this was anywhere else. Yeah.

No, no, I agree. I agree. But sort of maybe it looks a little bit worse after than it did at the time. And it probably was a little bit worse than it did look on the broadcast. But, yeah, I understand Nate Deas's frustrations. I understand the fans' frustrations. but at the end of the day what the fuck can we do

that's really the bottom did I live up to the hype I mean it felt like I can remember when I was looking at the rock coming out that's when I tweeted Joe Broly's getting his shit together for this next feature

you know it's a little don't fucking talk to me about the rock that I thought it was a bit weird it was it was cringe it really was I was like oh man I'm watching fucking and all week when he announced the Mark Kerr thing

and I saw Sean and Shee can we stop talking about casuals no you're a fucking casual if you don't know what a film I don't care right how you feel emotionally when you're a casual. You know what I did? I watched it again last night.

The smashing machine is unbelievable. Do you have any opiates? But you'll get it on YouTube. And the poor guy at the moment, isn't he? This show, we don't want any casuals listen to this show. The poor guy is... Stay away. He's not in good health at the moment.

So I'm glad to see there's a film coming out for him and hopefully he's going to get some well-earned bloody money from that because he's in a bad state at the moment, Mark, in terms of his health, definitely. Diaz wants the rematch. Jorge seems like he wants to rematch but doesn't know when he's going to do it but I'm telling you, if this happened and it was the other way around and Masvada got stopped by puts

Dana White would be like, we're making that fight again. Oh yeah, 100%. It's a Diaz thing. It's just... I have no interest in seeing it. I think we saw enough there to suggest that the power was the major difference in the fight from Jorge Maswell. He was sparking out of rain. I think

it probably would have been stopped in the fourth and fifth Maddra. I hate that. I hate him be able to say... I hate when people are saying... I hate when I do. He was clearly going to go on do with this in the fort and fifth. No, no, yeah, fair enough. They've taken, especially with, especially with Dias. They've taken us, especially with Diaz.

They've taken us to closure away. They have. And Diaz was having more success. Yeah. But I don't, like, I'm not trying to say it for a second. He was going to go in and take over the fight in the fort and fifth. But those are the rounds, you expect him to do something against, against the guy with that kind of stopping power.

Of course, I think Mazwell looked very fresh. He looked great. He looked great. Amazing. But listen, you know, people thought McGrath as well and Maswell. I don't, I don't. But look, that's going to, that's going to sell that. No matter what, we often say, guys, even though he's been completely negative,

completely rubbish the idea of the matchup, when he was talking about, he was like, ooh. Yeah, well, Connor bit back on social as well. But, like, at the end of the day, if you think McGregor's going to go in there, and, you know, I don't think Conner has much of a chance against Maswell. I think Maswell's power extremely out of us. Connor was trying to get a fight with Frank Yeager for his comeback fight. He does not want that fight.

Yeah. Not for a comeback, really. And listen, it's odd as well. Maybe something's changed in the terms of, the way Dana and him are negotiating at the moment because, you know, everyone was really, and from the information I've had right from the horse's mouth in terms of Team Pettis, that fight was pulled for them from Donald Cowboy Soroni because he was unavailable. So now that seems to have taken a turn where we're talking about Conner's on social media

again talking about other fights. He was very quiet for a week when the Cowboys stuff sort of circulating around and now it seems as if Dana doesn't know where they're at in terms of booking a return fight from Conner McGregor. And with this court situation where he got charged, like I feel like any other time when Connor said he was coming back, Dana was like, you're jumping down on people's throat. We can't wait to tell you that he's back. Well, maybe that's part of us.

Maybe, you know, maybe Dana wants to get that cleared up. And I know, obviously, the... Does it feel like there's something... There's things going on? There's something brewing that we don't know about. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Because, you know, sort of leading into Fight Week, maybe last, this day last week,

we were under the illusion that something was going to be announced on Saturday night during the broadcast. Nothing. Nothing was said. It was, you know, oh, we're not really here. You know, we're a long, long way from booking this fight. I found that exceptionally strange. Because the numbers for this fighter, you know, are going to be big from last Saturday. Look at the online traction. It would have been a perfect time to announce retirement for Garner. I actually thought they would as well. But then kind of when I saw him at the press comments, kind of completely pooping on it. I was like, oh, that's not going to happen. Just a final award, Darren Taylor, 185. Brilliant. Exceptional performance. I know people.

was an entertaining sport you know people forget that and I know it was probably easy to forget that on the night that we had there a night but the fact that this lad's gone in there after two stoppage defeats at welterweight and goes in there one of the best middleweight

in the world and looks really really comfortable in there and really didn't seem in trouble for a second Peter sometimes you have to go out there and get a win and to do it against the guy on his middleweight debut against Calvin Gaslam to go out there you know he did actually look nervous I was going

shit when I saw him walk in the cage. I've never seen Darren look that scared. He admitted that after that great interview with Adam Caterall. We saw the emotions. But for him to go out and implement a game plan and to stick to it, to not panic, to not get rushed, the leg kicks were sensational. I was

just so impressed, the maturity of Darren Till especially after those two losses, and especially against the guy like Kelvin Gasselm. Man, give that guy credit where it's due. Some blind stuff. Sometimes you need to see that part of him. You know, like when he kind of bore it all with Adam there for BT Sport interview afterwards.

That's what's convinced me that he's back. Here we go again. I mean, and what a brilliant thing to say, and I saw Ashting Daily tweeting about, like, sometimes you do feel like. Sometimes he said obviously to Adam that he wanted a fake an injury. He was contemplating his head. Crazy.

I can fake an injury and get out of this. Amazing honesty. And I love the fight game when shit like that happens. You know, like this is why we're in this. And you know, Chris was talking about Chris fails on Twitter. It's something I always sticks out in my mind with Chris because Chris has mentioned to me a number of times over the years.

Anxiety before he goes. Anxiety. He goes, anyone else, you're a fucking lawyer if you don't get it. And that's where you have to be so admiring

of Darren Tilly. You know, I put out a clip from the Eurabash interview we did a couple of months ago and he said when he walked out he was extremely angry against Mazzvedal. He said he'd never felt that

before in his career. That was a defence mechanism for him to try and eradicate those nerves. So listen, the maturity, I just couldn't believe it. I was just going, we're seeing a guy, same as Kevin Lee to a certain extent,

We're seeing a guy evolving as a person in front of our eyes here and a mentality. And there was a lot of humbleness in that interview. And listen, you've got to appreciate guys like that. We don't have enough of them in mixed martial arts. Yeah, yeah. Loved it. But look at this. Like, it's not even just that, like, the two losses.

Like, he had visa issues up until, like, a day before a fucking fight. That's what I said. You know, visa issues, right, you contemplate everything in. He's just had a kid. Knee injury. He's been knocked out. He's a knee injury. Twice.

Knee injury. You know, anxiety, really bad anxiety going into the cage. Yeah. unbelievable matured iron tail I think we're going again and I think we're going strong I thought he was fucked right I'm not like to be honest we were tweeting before I thought he was fucked because

he was meant to do an interview with me not for Eurobash on Wednesday and then there's VISA stuff there coming out and then they were like you see we're trying to get the interview started and then they were like look I just don't think he's going to be able to and I was like oh what is going on here he's not not making the walk yeah it's like but that was that was

taught up until weighing day pretty much you know he's a guy that's a kind of near there. Yeah. Oh yeah, 100% even though he came in heavy a pound or two, but he was getting the nod

if Darren wasn't ready. But, you know, a guy who's overcome so much adversity in his life and just constantly maturing and to still think he's only 26 years of age, we've a very special talent

here in our hands and I think to go out and do that after all what's gone on the last 12 months was actually probably the best performance the night in my opinion

and I tweeted that out the other night in terms of taking everything together and putting it in. Before we get on with our first interview of the day,

let me just ask you who do you want to tilt a fight next? Very interesting. To be honest, I haven't really put much thought into it because I think, you know, give me a little bit of time to chill out and,

you know, sort of just sort of take in everything that's gone on in the last one. I'm sure he's incredibly emotional after that fight as we did see with that interview at Adam Carroll and go check it out if you haven't already watched it. It was class.

But I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Maybe Derek Brunson and someone like that. You know, I think that would be. see him fight Jack Hermanson in London. I mean, I don't think you're going to get him, like, you need another fight before you can put him into a stilbender situation. Yeah, I agree.

Canoneers there as well. Yeah. But I feel like in Europe, someone like Hermanson be a big fight, because Hermanson was knocking on the door, if he had to be canineer. But is it you know, for darn... Is it a step back, are you thinking? You know, maybe is it, you know, sort of

ease your way into the division. I know you're... He's already gone in. I know. I know. I'm not talking about I'm talking about maybe get... They've ruined that for him. Get a number of fights together before he... But you can't go from fighting number three to fight number 15. They fuck that up. That's not my fault.

No, I agree. So, I mean, I'd say anyone in the top 10... I'd agree with that, yeah, anyone in the top 10. I'd like to see Derek Monson fight. Well, you know, Darren, I mean, if he's winning to take Kevin Gastlam after two straight losses, you know, he's probably going, no, what wants is he? Yeah, I'm going to... Best of luck to you, mate, getting a fight in anvil way.

It's not happening. Winning one fight doesn't get... You don't get the tail the champion where he's fighting me. Listen, yeah, listen. in Europe. Let's just, well, let's, right, we've been paraphranobates for 10 years. Just draw a line under it, lads. Never happening. It's not going to happen. Like, fucking Raider Stadium next July in the States, not in Europe. Fucking forget it, dudes. Right, lads. Let's get on with the first interview of the day. It's a big weekend in Ireland because Cage Warriors is coming home

with a big Irish roster this time. I remember the three arena show wasn't really the same because they didn't have as much Irish traction on it. So this time I feel like we're actually going to see the next generation of a UFC forest from Ireland with Reese McKeith. top of the cards, guys like Ian Gary on the card there. Right, so we're going to get on with this. We'll see him about 16 minutes. We talked to Graham Boylan, the controversial CEO of Cage Warriors, who always, in fairness, every time he's been on this show, he has knocked it out of park.

He almost does, man. And I promise you that he has done it once again here. So we'll season about 16 minutes, all the best. And now we are joined by the great Graham Boyland, who is returning home this weekend at Cork. I mean, does that feel good? for you? Is this special for you? Because it's very special for a lot of people in Irish MMA that this is happening, especially in the Neptune. It's nice to go back to Neptune Stadium. It's kind of where it all began for us when we took over the show. So to go back there

2019 when it was 2011 when we were there, Connor and Duffy, it had Rosie fighting there, Ashling, Kahul. So to go back there on November 9th, with a whole new wave of talents that going to look to develop is a I think is a fitting first stepping stone considering that's where we started when we built the last wave of talent that's what is really exciting about this for me personally graham like I mean we we don't have that many fighters in the UFC anymore the the photos that we have the Irish fighters we have are Connor McGregor and Joe Dovey both guys who have come from Cage Warriors and I guess we you guys come on back here and doing this show in the Neptune, it's really making me believe that that path has been built again. The likes of

Reese McKee, a lot of people feel is the next guy that could go from either Northern Ireland or Republic of Ireland. Is that what this is for you? I can remember in the press release, it did have something like, this is going to be a home for Irish fighters. And as we know, this is the path to the UFC in Europe. Yeah. Well, like I said to a few people, there's a, there's a bunch of young pro fighters who are, they're either one, two and all, or three, four, five. There are amateurs

who are making their pro debut and I believe the time is right that there's a little undercurrent of guys your likes of your Ian Garys, your Paul Hughes, your Reese McKees done so, you've got the two

boys making the debut Aaron McGuire his brother, you've got Jack McGuire, John Mitchell. You know, There's a little undercurrent, I believe, that's there right now that we can start developing. And I'd imagine within 12 months, you're going to start seeing some very high-level potential Irish UFC talent coming through. That's always referred to as the golden era, right?

With Siri, you know, McGregor, Pendred Fields. I'm leaving out loads of people I know I am. But, you know, that golden error there, is it too early to try and compare? with this current crop that you've just been speaking about there and of course McKee McCulligan as well from up north I think it's the Irish invasion version too you know I think that I think that's where this is going to end we're doing November 9th to to wake the country

up to the talent that's there we'll do Belfast early first quarter next year and then from there we may go back to Cork again we'll do Belfast again we may finish in Dublin but when we do finish in Dublin we'll finish with a fuller arena of all Irish talent, talent that's going to go on to the UFC. There's been lots of questions. You know, when KSW were here, they did a show in the tree arena, and they had a lot of trouble. Like, it's not something that was spoken about really publicly, but there was no doubt about it.

You know, how has organising an event in Ireland been? Like, has it been difficult dealing with the safety standards and IMA and the different things that you have to do to put an event on here? Has that been difficult? Just to clarify, the safety standards are no different to what we would do in any Cage Warriors a show anyway. For those who are listening that may not know, Cage Warriors is one of the founding members of Safe MMA and we've been the backbone of Safe MMA for many years.

So that side of things is nothing different to us. It's no change. We're doing it. It's just another show. As regards to this, IMA thing, it's been. brought up to me a couple of times. Not heard anything from them. Don't know who they are.

Nothing about them. And I have no inkling as to what they're possibly going to want from Cage Warriors. And if they had, they left it a bit late, seven days to the show. Is there any fear that, you know, something could happen the day before the event or something where, you know, the supposed

governing body, as Emma is, puts a spanner in the works here or anything? Because, you know, people have seen you and the president of that buddy, John Kavanaugh kind of going back and forth a bit on social media like I mean is there any part of you that could be like you know there could be a light bit of trouble here with this event I don't understand what that trouble could be I mean if you can pinpoint exactly what that trouble could be then great pinpointed because as far as I know there's nothing I need

to do and our lawyers are quite solid on this there is nothing we need to do with I'm at to put on the show that we're putting on and if they want to do that then fine bring it on you know We've got pretty good lawyers on our side too that if you want to stop anything or try and stop anything, then you better have good cause because Cage Warriors is the safest, longest running organization in Europe. We have a history of a number of shows. We have a history of all sorts of safety aspects. And if another promoter wants to come in and stop or cause problems with Cage Wars, then so be it. because that's what we're talking about. We're talking about a promoter here, right?

Yes, a promoter sometimes. Yeah, we're talking about promoters. And that promoter wants to come and do anything about the show that's happening in 10 days. Then, you know, come on. How exciting is this guy in Gary? Because I just spoke to him here. And I've been very excited about him even before he transitioned to pro. And it was great to see you guys snap him up

because this is a guy that we consider a blue chip prospect. Like, I mean, have you seen much of him? Have you spent much time around him or his team? have you got what's your impression of him? He can talk Ian can talk he's he's certainly got an energy about him but he's showing

all the signs of going to the top he wants to go to the top he wants to be in the UFC he knows the path he has to take he's showing some serious maturity at a very young age in the fight game you know

he's willing to listen, which is always a huge plus when it comes to developing young talent because young talent get three, four, five, five wins in the trot and they want to go to the UFC now. He's smart, he knows what he's doing and he wants that UFC tag and I strongly believe he's well on his way to on the road to completing that task. A lot of media members from this part of the world believe that McKee, as I mentioned, will be the guy, the next guy from north and south may be considered for one of those UFC spots. I was speaking to him today, he believes he could be three fights away from that with Cage Warriors,

even, you know, it could take that long. I mean, do you feel as though if Reese goes in at Welterweight, this is obviously his debut and makes oppression against like a battle-hardened dude, like Hacken Foss? I mean, is he immediately in that conversation? Maybe it's not going to be his next fight, but is he there or thereabouts in the Welterway title picture, as far as you're concerned? A big win for Reese on November the 9th puts him in the conversation, yes. He's a solid prospect. He's got a good record. He's got all the attributes to go again, like Ian Garry, and others who we feel are going to go all the way.

So does Reese. And I think Reese is leading the charge in that purely based on his experience, the amount of fights he's had. I think he's the next guy in Ireland to possibly walk down. that path and take it all on board. But he's got a dangerous, dangerous test with Hacken Foss. You know, Hacken Foss's record is you can look at it and roll your eyeballs, but that guy is a dangerous, dangerous animal when it comes to his skill set. So it's a big test for Reese. What's it like for you, right? Because you're so involved with these guys' careers. Like obviously we saw Jack Shaw, we saw Nicholas Dalby getting re-signed this year.

What's the emotion in you at that time? Because obviously, you mind. these guys, but it's also your promotion, right? Like, I mean, you know that those guys they're no longer available for selection for cage warriors. Like, I mean, is it bittersweet in a way when you see those guys kind of transition into the UFC? It can be, but

it's crystal clear from the beginning, from the get-go, what the goals are. You know, we're not bringing somebody into an organization to say, you're going to stay with me for the rest of your life. You're not going to the UFC. You're staying here. This is it. This is it. Cage Warriors, you're not going fucking anywhere else.

Okay? So being 100% crystal clear and honest with this, we know from the get-go, every person that signs a contract with Cage Warriors, we know what their goal is. We know where they want to go. We know what we got to do to get them there. And providing they listen, they go there. If they don't listen, obviously, then they kind of fuck up themselves. They take too many, they try and jump too many steps at once. and then that's on their hands.

But when they do listen, nine times out of ten, they get to where they want to be. Nicholas listened, Jack listened, and look where they are. Another man who you said on Saturday, when you're in Birmingham, you said, this guy is ready, Joy Herbert, the black country basher, not badger,

as I do call him sometimes, which he's not very happy about. It's a banier. Yeah, I'm sorry. But he looked sensational, okay? And there's obviously Mason Jones is also there who looked sensational, well in his last fight. Two brilliant prospects. There's no doubt about it. I was speaking the joy

just yesterday and he said, you know, he can't, he would prefer if Cage Warriors, which you have done in the past, bring in an international name, like a Brazilian or an American, like someone who has a bit more name value than internationally say than Mason, who would be able to, you know, stimulate interest on the UFC's part. Where is your mind with that? Is it way too early, given that this only happened at the weekend to be considering this? I mean, do you kind of see where he's coming from or is Mason Jones? Definitely the fight to make. No, no.

Mason is one of the new breed fighters where Mason listens. Mason, for me, I think, is going to go to the UFC. I think he'll be a Cage Warriors champion. But he's also very, very sensible in the fact that he, he knows what he wants to do. And I've had a conversation with Mason already. We have a set plan for Mason for 2020. Jai, on the other hand, I think Jai is and should be off to the UFC.

Done enough from that now with their fight? I don't think, I don't think Jai and Mason are on two different levels in their careers right now. and I think Joy is at a stage where his next fight should be in the UFC and I think Mason's the one to pick up the slack when Joy goes you've also got Paddy there

Paddy's there you also got Donovan Desme who's there you got Joe McCorg in there that division's stacked it's a shark tank you know it is a shark tank when it comes to the 55 pound division but there's just four names and you know other people in that division probably kick me or tweet me or

Instagram me and call me all sorts of names If I don't say their name, no. But when you're on the spot talking like this, you know, just certain names jump into your head and others they don't jump into your head that should have done. You kind of kick yourself out if you didn't say their name, but, you know, there's nothing I can do about that.

I think Joyce should go to the UFC. You know, what he did to Kane, Carozzo, I probably fucked his and saw her name up to. No, I think that's what I was on. Yeah. What he did to him and getting them out of there in one round, in the fashion that he did at, is just unbelievable.

What he did to Jack Grant, which nobody was expecting, that was just mind-boggling. I thought he'd be gone down. But then I had a chat with Joe, and Joe, he's like, look, if I have to defend it again, I want a big name, I want a UFC tag, I want X, Y, Z.

We went and got it for him, and he just, less than around, got him out. So it's like, he kind of needs to go. He needs to be where he should be right now. The guy is elite, elite level pinpoint accuracy striking. He will take you out from anywhere. I agree with you. I couldn't agree more, especially after that performance,

and he finished, everything perfect. Just one final question, because I guess I never put a bow on this properly. The surface after the Dalby and Houston fight, right? So there was all this talk. Dalby said he doesn't even think there's a need to get the canvas down rather than the vinyl. Because he said, if it happens just once in the history of Cage Warriors, as long as those guys are going, they're probably safe enough

that they're going to get away with the vinyl for a long time again. Mark Goddard was like, maybe they will do it because it costs them the closure on that fight. Where are you with it? Like, I mean, it's a lot logistically, right, to have a different canvas every single event.

That's what I hear anyway. Yeah. To try and get a canvas covering every event. It has to be different every event. So, you know, you get a new sponsor in, canvas needs to be changed. a TV broadcaster in Canvas needs to be changed.

A new arena Canvas needs to be changed. Logistically, it's just not viable. We're not the UFC. The UFC of a different canvas every event. We're not the UFC. We're a European organization. We happen to be the best European organization

at growing talent. 90-something, 93 guys to the UFC. We know what we're doing and we do it well. We've had one incident in over 12 years of my time here where it was a bloodbath and the fight had to be stopped. If we were to get that fight back on the rematch,

it probably wouldn't happen again. So we don't feel we need to change anything in what we're doing. And even just to clarify on a canvas issue, every organization I know of in Europe has the same canvas. They do the same thing. Everyone's got the same thing.

It's a vinyl canvas, you know? There's very, very few organizations that would be using a canvas as a floor covering. You know, so UFC, you know, maybe Bellator, but they're owned by Viacom. It's not their money, you know, it's Viacom's money. And that's a hell of a lot of money to be pissing down the toilet every time you put a Belator show on when you're spending Viacom's money like that. So they don't care about canvases. We're an Irish-owned company. Our P&L matters, and we like to keep everything on track.

Final question, promise. I know I said that already. How many fighters that we will see in Cork in the Neptune Arena do you expect to eventually sign for the UFC? I know that's the crazy thing, but potentially, what do you think? If you're going to go specifically on the Cork event November 9th, just that event, I would say three. We can figure those three out when we get there. I'll say three. I'd say and three will be

I'll say it'll be three Irish guys are going to the UFC By 2021 2 by 21 And then 3 by the end of 21 This is a specific November 9 card End of 21

Thanks so much Graham man It's pleasure to speak to you always And there he was Graeme Boylan Always a pleasure Never at shore He brought the heat again A lot of issues there

You know Insofar as the things he said about him I know he said the same to you I don't understand I think it's worrying going into this career No but like the thing is right I was talking to Sean Sheen about this actually on the day

I was like I don't know when Emma would get involved Like you know because I'm not a promoter Like I don't know if they're waiting for a prompt From safe MMA and then they get involved or whatever It's just weird that he hasn't heard a thing from the governing body He has had zero contact as what he said Man

It's very very strange because It's so confusing the scene here is so confusing It's so confusing It's very even hard for us to work out and I think I said that to Graham as well because of the lack of contact or who is there to reach out and speak to because we don't tend to get answers

when we do reach out and that's sort of the worrying thing that I have. But it's also a nod to the conflict of interest because what he said to me was like why do I have to tell another why is another promoter telling me what way I should run a show?

And look, you can say what you want about John Kavanaugh but he has literally promoted Bellator events like shown up at press days all this kind of stuff. We're in Belator T-shirts. Yeah, I mean there's definitely some of a relationship going on there I think he actually tweeted.

Obviously there was a lot of questions about his match. Like is he playing a part in a matchmaking, which... I think he tweeted before as well. Straight Blas Bellator. Yeah, I mean, that was always going to be... This is the thing we talked about from the dawn of time with this Imodale. John seems to be too... Like, just as a president, I get that.

Like, as a figurehead, it looks great because he's so internationally recognized, so respected in the sport internationally. But when you're a guy that really has to drop the hammer on other promoters, and they see you as a... a competitor. Yeah. That's, that's gonna be a

conflict immediately. Possibly, you've said it all there 100% straight down the line. That's the way it looks to everyone else, anyone who's any brains

looking on in the situation. And Johnny gets annoyed for us for even talking about this, but I mean, this is our job like. It's like, dude's, there's been, there's been this fucking zero pro shows.

But everyone's talking about it, you know? It's just weird. Like, you know, people keep saying it to us, like, why aren't, like, why aren't, yeah.

But the problem is, where have the other shows me, there's a reason the show has haven't been in time. We had that, we'll talk about the whole Cage Warriors thing a bit later when we're preview on the show, but, like, I mean, this is, like, the Ian Gary thing

that propped up from the Sean Sheehan interview, like this is maybe the fifth or six time this has happened. You know, it was in, like, the Cage Warriors v. Bellator thing has propped up and it's made a huge store. Even if you can remember when Nathan Grayson moved, like, there was those stuff, there's been how many online

spots between Kavana, Boilin, I mean, it just keeps on throwing up his head. Listen, these fighters have an option. I think everyone in this country has an option in terms of where they want to go, what path they want to do in mixed smart charts. I know we've said this. He said it just earlier.

Follow your path. Go what you want to fucking do. That's not pull any bullshit over it. Bellator is very much the secondary promotion in the States. Oh, yeah, in the States 100%. So, you know, it's UFC for these guys. And I think that's the path they want to go. Yeah.

That's it. That's it. Right. We'll get back to that a bit later. And it's one of those things that me and you feel like we get stuck in every week nearly. I'm not even messing, man. Every week we need to talk about this. So we're going to move on and we'll talk about MSG in a bit more detail, put a bit of shine on some of the other fights.

Brilliant card. First of all, I think Mazberra, just to cap off Mazved Al-Diaz, I thought the fight was great. I really enjoyed the fight. I really enjoyed the fight as long as it lasted. Shame that it ended the way it did. Ironic, because it's a bad motherfucker title and it's stopping it because of a cut, but what can you do? Calvin Gaslam must feel a bit stupid for taking that fight in hindsight. Yeah.

Because, I mean, he had it all to lose there, you know. But he saw Till as a big name, which I'm... I think he saw Taylor as a big opportunity from what he looked upon in his last two fights and then him obviously coming up. I think Kelvin Gaslam went into that fight cocky and, you know... Didn't touch him. Yeah, and look at the weight issues again from Calvin Gaston. It looks to me as though, you're going, you know,

it looks like he's getting disciplinary reaction now after the whole incident of the scale. Elbow gaition. Why are you getting attention? tail put around you if you're underweight. Yeah. 144, or 184, bullshit, right? Optical illusion. Free Kelvin.

That's what she said. No, you know, Kelvin Gasselm, I think, really needs to address something that's going on. There's something going on there in his head that there's maybe a lack of motivation, a lack of something going on. Because if you're acting like that, you know, you're not getting on weight properly without any controversy, there's something knocking on the door there he's the same problems I feel as though

he kind of showed us that there is a situation there in the pre-fight when they showed they went in the countdown show they went back to his first day back in the gym and had all the gym members showing up to congratulate him and clap him into the gym and all it's like I feel like it was some type of issue mentally maybe or something where he needed that support

network around him when he came back hope he is getting help with that if that is the case but what really impressed me about Till as well is the fact he was able to just bolt back up onto his feet every time a takedown was even nearly happening. I think that's the energy from the lack of a cut, you know? Definitely in the defence work against the cage.

Brilliant. As well, you know, getting the underhooks in, reversing it at times. Really, really good stuff from Darren. Can't do that against Y'all Romero, unfortunately. That's it. Yoll, you'll probably snap your arms off. But listen, Darren even admitted to it afterwards. He did feel Kelvin's power.

But in terms of Gasselam, I think there's a guy there that needs to address a lot of things in his career. Maybe he's a little bit too overconfidence from where he actually is in his career. That Adasania fight obviously coming off that one as well. Totally different performance. But listen, Darren Thiel neutralised him, did what he had to do to win. And I think that's very, very important

in terms of Darren's career trajectory that I can... Oh, we've got it right from. I'm going to say that. But it is. Two losses. Going up a way class. It's a big, big night for Darren Thale,

the biggest of his career, in my opinion, today. A man he fought before, Mr. Stephen, Wonderboy Thompson. A lot of people feel Thompson backtail that night in Liverpool, but what a performance by Thompson against Luke. one of the most vicious fighters in that bracket.

What a way to return. Showcase. I mean, it was a signature performance. You know, first round, it could have probably gone either way. Lukai landed a little bit against the cage, some heavy shots. But if you look at the second, third rounds, Wonderboy really came into it. And totally outclassed him on the feet. Unbelievable performance from.

Probably one of the greatest mixed martial arts. Martial arts is a fucking generation. Jesus, I'm getting to losing me fucking speed. Definitely. the striking situations he's one of the best. I'll ask you about one thing about Thompson and I noticed this and I noticed this during the week and I want to see what you think about it.

His language is terrible, yeah. He needs to stop cursing. Hey, baby. Right, but he said in an interview before the fight that he's not out there to hurt a guy. It's, you know, it's very much in terms of going out there to show his skill set of mixed... Well, he really fucked up if he didn't go out there to Hurfant Jette Luka because he battered her.

No, but I'm talking in terms of maybe his finishing ability. It was time there where I think Stephen could have really stuck it on him and sort of backed off a little bit and I'd love to Steve Stephen maybe getting a bit more of killer instinct in it because he has the skills I enjoyed every second to watching that

but yeah I understand what you're saying yeah brilliant performance no doubt about it back with a bang Derek Lewis not so much gets a win but the fight wasn't it was fun to watch it obviously is with Lewis but yeah it wasn't a great technical fucking battle or anything like that but

I had him winning the fight I'd no problem when I So a few people were saying, they thought Blagov won it. Blagoi? Even off. Right? Blagoff. We're fucking wrecking you out here. Come on, Bulgaria.

No, in the interest of supporting the European sport, yeah, I do think Blagoe won, and it's a joke. Yeah, you don't. No, it's not. Oh, Jesus, I'm not serious to everyone. I was like, what the fuck is this guy? But listen, it was a typical Lewis fight, you know, looked out at times.

I think he plays past him for the crack these days and pretends he's dead and then comes back and just to wow people. but, you know, I very much enjoyed it. I thought it was a great spectacle. Kevin Lee then with that disgraceful head kick knockout with Gregor Gillespie, man. He nearly lost me lunch when he fucking head kick there.

Crazy. Absolutely crazy. It was like, oh, Jesus. But listen, again, I think the post-fite interview another guy, look on the lines of Darren Taylor, a guy who's, you know, battle back, obviously had a lot of adversity. But it was mad just to see, I think,

the calmness in Kevin Lee. And he could calculate it, even his personality. He was a very, very angry man in the past. and I think maybe it's been the case with Kevin that he's addressed these emotional issues that he's had. We're like playing Dr. Phil this week, aren't we? We are.

Yeah, but fuck's sake. That's the way it's sort of turned into. But listen, Kevin Lee with a mindset like that coming in, that cool, calm, calculated, is going to spank a lot of people in that 55-pound division. Incredibly impressive performance. One of my stars at a whole week,

Corey Anderson, unbelievable. Don't sleep on him. Unbelievable pre-fight interview when he did the Dominance MMA Media Day a few weeks back where he's like, you know, basically fuck this. I mean, what else do I need to do?

He goes and he upends Johnny Walker in the most devastating fashion possible. That right was insane. I thought it was going to be like a real gritty display that would win it for Corey, but he bet this shit out of him. And then he goes backstage and he basically puts the UFC on ice, man.

He literally flames them. And I feel like he's making Dana White speak about him. It's not the most glowing terms, but I mean, you'd be mental to suggest. I don't like that about Dana. He's nearly suggesting you can go somewhere else, Like, you're like, dude, what the fuck do you want this guy to do? You need guys in your light heavyweight division.

And I think, you know... And the guys just have to take out one of your big prospects. One of your big prospects. You're going to have to deal with something with him. You're going to have to do something with Cori Amos. Dana's going to look back in this and change his mind from what he said. Like he always does. Not a needle mover.

The dust has settled. Listen, Corey Anderson coming out that and the badass attitude as well. I love that. That's why people start talking sometimes. Sometimes you have to do it. We've actually seen both spectrums of it this week. No, but I think it's genuine. When you, when you, when you, when you're genuine,

aggression, genuine anger. It doesn't feel fabricated at all. He feels like genuinely like fuck the UFC at the moment. Yeah, but look at the whole situation. He even how about Johnny Walker and he apologised obviously after for sort of getting in his face after he won the fight. That's genuine rage. That's genuine rage because people have been writing

this guy off her. God knows how long they have. And to go out and make a statement like that, we, as we said there, we thought it was going to be a grondy display, but he fucking upended him. Just a solid side. Give him the shot, man. Give the guy a shot. Till was the only real success in terms of a European MMA on this card

But Mac Juan Maracani He really got found out, didn't he against Shane Borgos? He did, and I think we possibly saw it coming and yeah He got taken out in the feet. There was very evident issues with the gas tank. People think that's an issue with SBG. I don't know. What do you think? Like I guess because they see

Connor. Maybe they're prominent fighters. Their tanks aren't as good as maybe they need to be where they're at But in general, I don't see a problem. Look at Peter Quilly. Like, that guy you ever had a problem with his cardio? No, he's very fit, man.

There you go. So, no, no, I think that's just one or two fighters. But yeah, it was in a performance where I think he sort of threw his gas tank out in the first round and he just looked terrible after that. Take down attempts for awful. And a wrestler of his caliber, I think that directly points to stamina, you know, when he's shooting from so far out and it's just not doing anything, Borgo's a unit.

But one thing that kind of came out with this was a lot of people talking about John, cabinet's cornering advice to him after the, was it after the second round? Yeah, he said to him, you're tired now, but your people are suffering or something? You're suffering now, but your people are suffering or something? Yeah, yeah, it was in relation to the Kurdistan people. I know that was a big thing that Mack wanted

brought into this fight week as well, about his representation of the Kurds. He seemed to highlight it even more than usual. Yeah, I think John should have been probably dished out a bit of tactical advice, because that was clearly a massive issue after that first round or after that for a second round um but could he just be trying to like appeal to like look

john is looking at him and he's saying right he's bollocks like there's no there's nothing i can really like he needs to just hang in there at this stage and he's probably clutching for something that's just raw emotion but sometimes it does work yeah depends on obviously knowing your fighter we don't know um what macawan doesn't give us interviews so so um that's pretty much it so you know sometimes if a coach knows a fighter well he'll try and push the buttons on an emotional level to get more out of him or sometimes if you're a guy you like to listen he'll

point out some tactical awareness but clearly Macwin was out of his feet so maybe it was a good idea from John I don't not an ideal way to start your US journey for Macwan in America County and I just felt as though we're going to get some real activity out of him now and now the loss comes you're like

oh that's going to knock this back for a while it is definitely going to knock it back for a while and he doesn't fight too often as well so hopefully you can once a year in London was the way we're going um shiboy's unbelievable unbelievable left head kick knockout of Brad Tavares, brilliant. Giuseño Rosenstruck

took out another European, Belarusian, Andre Arlofsky, counter-left hook. Listen, walked onto it, fade away left. You know, listen, when Arlovsky's gone down so easily in fights, you know, I'm going to say it again,

I don't can't fuck what anyone says, the guy should not be in there. I think that's eight of his last... Hater! Eight of his last 13 fights, he's lost. He's had it five fights. losing streak of the UFC former USC champion

it doesn't matter 40 years of age he is you know he should not be in there and then 10 minutes afterwards he's on his Instagram gone

I apologize to everyone I'm ready to go again no he's ready to go again though he needs to take a massive look at his health and safety and well-being I feel very

surely if he's good enough to put up a story on Instagram he can fight uncomfortable watching Andre Arlobsky in the octagon and anyone else who doesn't feel the same

and someone But he got his nose straight Someone tweeted me saying Oh he put in a brilliant performance He put in one good performance In his last 12 fights Which one is that? Probably Ben Rothwell last time maybe

Before that He's back He's back Rubbish Um No it's uncomfortable I don't like seeing it Would he be able to

Put up a story 10 minutes after a fight If he wasn't fully fit Peter, let's move on Kailinjikin surely next for that title after that one Yeah Who else is?

They're really poor fight. I don't think it's going to really help Shevchenko's case for putting on an exciting fight against Caitlin. I like Caitlin's and she's a good boxer. She did exactly what we said. She would do. Get in and out quickly. She did that, but she's not going to trouble Valentina Shevchenko,

in my opinion. No, no, I don't think so either. Loeim and good, very good, knock out a chance round counter. With his foot, blown out as well. Yeah, yeah. And Hakeem Du-U, split decision win again over Julio Warka. That tops that bad boy off. Can I just say one thing?

I got all my picks bar one right What's the one you got wrong? The main event Everything else That's not a bad You picked Johnny Walker I didn't pick Johnny Walker On the show last week you did

I did not listen back I picked Corey Anderson Thank you very much I'll be listening back I listen back dude Have you listened back already Yeah I pick Cory Anderson

I'm gonna go back And specifically find it You're gonna be wrong I still get grinded out I'm about the greed in that one All right Just a bit of self-praise there from Noel again just before we go back.

So we'll go back. That's you and Sean Gainesville. That's not for me. Roy, we'll go on to our second interview today. The reason where we're doing this so early is because I'm helping Patty Hewlin with his book launch today in town somewhere. So, yeah, we've got a word with Patty. Book is brilliant.

I read it a couple of months ago. I'm sorry, Gil McMillan. I get special perks. But, yeah, so we'll talk to Patty. We'll talk all about what is, what, His journey really since he left the UFC and will be back in about 10 minutes. Well, I'm here now with Paddy Huland and has just successfully launched his book, which I think is going to be a big, big hit this Christmas.

We're in Club 22 on the south side of Dublin. And once again, I've witnessed you have about 100 people eaten out of the palm of your hand there for that Q&A. I mean, it must feel good to still be able to captivate people the way you do beyond your first choice career which was fighting it. Like I've seen you doing your podcast, I'm seeing you do it as a coach as a gym owner, as a politician

and now as an author, it's pretty incredible. Do you recognise that it's a pretty special thing that you have? I think it's charisma I think is what people say so I never knew really what it was but when I fought like people who are sitting there and they be talking and then even if you look at the video back you look at the crowd,

people look up and there's just something about energy and that kind of charisma when it comes with somebody that has too much energy to fit in their buddy. I mean, that's me. You know, so I'm able to, when I come into a room like this, spread it across the whole room, and you see that reaction from it. And it's getting better at it at a Pizzi.

Yeah, you're amazing at it. He's just points arrived here and all. This is amazing. Paddy, your book is amazing. And I don't say that as a guy who has been a friend of yours who's known you for the last 10 years. I say that as a guy who got an email that says, says here, have a look at this book. And I'm going, why not Patty a long time?

I mean, nothing's going to shock me in here. And you could tell the people, after every chapter, wasn't I texting you? You're going, holy shit, man. I mean, how hard was it for you to bear yourself the way you have? Because it is, you pull no punches at all in this book. It's, you've left yourself open. And a politician to do this as well. Like, I always like, this is incredibly brave.

Is that a hard thing to do to kind of tap into yourself? and did Richard have to do a lot of work with you to get that kind of stuff out of you? Not really, like, if you listen to the tapes back and the idea is, like, I want to just delete the tapes now and it's out, it is what it is, because like, when you're sitting there writing the book, it's a hard process.

You can take hours and hours of tapebook, and you're like, what did I say, did I say this, did I say it the right way? The politician part of it is, it helps me, it makes me powerful to expose my background to myself because no one's ever going to be able to pull her And now, I'll be like, oh, well, really?

Look at him now. Look what he said there. And that's what people do. Because when you try to grow up, when you try to build up, the people are trying to rip you back down because they like you getting up. They love that. They get the numbers off you coming up. And then they want the numbers off you coming down.

And that's the way it works. So to me, I am going to be a different type of, say, politician or activist. I'm going to be somebody that. People are like, so I read his book. I know about him. Like, I know that. He had the same problem with me, with Myanmar. He had the same trouble.

with such and such the I had. And then they realized that we're all very, very the same and then we put this hat on

these politician lads that they know what they're doing and they have the interest of the country in their hands and they don't. They clearly don't.

The place is fucking in bits. Look at it, as I said. It's a great example as I said what the idea is. This is a football team. We're making loads of money. The money part is doing well

but we're getting relegated every season. If that was football fans, they would not stand for it and that exactly what's happening in this country. you um the thing that stuck with me when i read it is i was far too interested in the people you were fighting in the cage when really the most interesting thing about you is all the fighting

you do just with genuine obstacles that are put in front of you in your life and you know when i said up there today when uh when i was speaking to the people there i mean where you were three years ago you've have five new careers since then like i mean that's incredible like you Do you just have an automatic ability to knock down those walls when they get put in front of you? Or is it a rigorous process for you as well? Or have you just kind of got into this mentality where I'm not going to let these people kind of drag me down, which is a reoccurring theme in the book. Listen, fighting was just one thing to me.

You know what I mean? I love fighting more than anything. You're always fighting. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't matter if it's not actual combat. Yeah, fighting is a part of life and it's always going to be a part of life. But when I was coming up fighting, that wasn't my great. greatest ability. My greatest ability

was to be part of that team and to give back to that team and to develop things that were you, that MMA is benefiting from now in the idea of mindset and examples and breaking down walls there as well. There's many people that walk us to the cage but we walk into

that cage and that dog gets closed and then it's you and you're kind of on your own. You know whether you like it or not and that's the true reality and even when you win or lose you'll probably share the wins with people but The losses don't get really shared with people, you know, and I understand that myself now as a coach.

It's like the losses don't get shared, you know, and I had a lot of my plate when I was fighting as well, you know? So I had like I had a kid and nobody else had a kid. So we had another brain and none of a person to be thinking of as well. So that was a huge part of what I was dealing when I was fighting. But my problem now is that I have really good ideas and I just don't have enough time to implement them. I mean I have ideas for like

for housing policies ideas for them to stop pollution like mental ideas and they come through in the middle of the night sometimes sometimes it can be dreaming the same way it happens

you used to deal with their submissions and it still happens it still happens comes through there where I'm like I can think of a policy and I say to Chelsea what about this imagine people did this and she look

that's really good like the other day I was in I put a picture up of me talking at a Sinn Fain meeting the other day And I was in, like, a museum up the road. I rolled in the treksuit. I didn't know it was nice dress, and it's like,

all of a sudden I'm standing here and I'm giving an attraction and you look at it, the president of the ship found out is sitting there and she's like looking up at me in. And, like, she told me, look, like, I need to get some of your wisdom. I need to get some of your, like, and I'm like, Mary Lou, like, I'm fanning out of you, you know what I mean? I'm walking around the doll to you're day, and I'm like, this is not so scary anymore.

Why wouldn't it be an allowed to go to the school tour to the doll when I was a kid? I know I'm walking in and I'm walking into a room and it's like the hooligan, come out of my office where we have it. Someone told me earlier today that Jerry Adams was exclusively referring to you as the hooligan when he's met.

We're talking about big Jerry a, you know what I'm saying? Big Jerry Hey! Like, amazing, absolutely amazing. And to me, someone would say to me, who do you admire than politics and it's like Jerry Adams are people like, Harry Adams is exactly what a politician should be. Jerry Adams is being

shot five times and still going. He's like, Tupac. He's like, exactly. That's what he is kind of like. And the idea is that like, these people are us and, I've got to get people saying, we've got someone texting me yesterday. And this is how simple it can be, Pete's here, right?

And he turns around and he says, yeah, you're in shit fine. But they voted against putting up the living wage or they, the minimum wage for people. And it's like, yeah, but they voted for a living wage. You are wanted the minimum wage. And then I sent him an article and he's like, geez, I didn't know that. I'm like, publicly you literally just Went that money neck there

and if this was a polling boot you wouldn't have voted for shame because of someone that someone else told you. So we're not thinking and the idea is now we're in a situation where people that vote

for the leading parties the parties that are trying to in line with these and all we need to be very careful because now we're in a situation where we are shamed because everyone vote it does make a sense

and this kid Samna that everyone was talking about eating on the streets cardboard if you don't vote and if you vote for Fianna Fala of Fian a Gail you share that shame and unfortunately that is the way it is

because if you don't vote you don't have an ability for us to change this stuff and I can see it now because I'm in there trying to change it but if you don't have to vote it doesn't matter can I ask you one question that a lot of people get the answers to in Huligan and it's something that

you know you spoke to Ariel Hawani about it's the John thing and I mean I don't feel as though there was any daggers thrown there in the book but I certainly understand where you're coming from with the situation there. Was that hard to do because of you probably felt the sense of it growing when you did

the recent interview with Ariel after you got elected and everything like that? And it became a thing people were talking about. I'd be speaking to American guys, they'd be like, well, did you see Paddy? Like, I mean, if Paddy, if something's going on there with Paddy, like this is, this is huge, you know? And I mean, was that hard to do? Was it hard to commit to paper? Even though, as I say, I don't feel as though it's massive daggers in any kind of way. It's just explaining the situation as it happened from your point of view. Well, I think what happened was that a huge group of people went on and done something really, really great together.

And I feel that, like, a lot of that would have been, it's kind of forgotten about. Like, John doesn't really talk about us and talk about the lads that put the situation in front of what it is now and Irish M&A as well, even the younger lads. Not that they should show their respect, but the problem with me and John, was that for many, many years,

I had worked for the man, I had jumped through hoops for the man, many more hoops than he jumped through for me. He taught me the way. But a coach and a fighter, right, is a two-way process. At the start, it's a one-way process, it's a one-way street. You're learning from the coach,

and the coach gives you the attention and time, and then it becomes a two-way street, and that's when it kind of went a little bit wrong there. So when it turns to a two-way street, people are going to start taking their view on it or maybe they start have to start

to look at themselves or ego kicks in and that's what happens I had John's back for many years and when it came by him to have my back he didn't have my back

and he sat on the fence so and when it came to the idea to rectify it we were asked for a fee of 5,000 euro and to me money

it's not about the fucking money it's about to control it's like you pay me that means I'm above you and that's all of it's I'm still a brown belt I've still I earned one

or you're not I mean and there's been many reasons and many ways that John could have stepped in and done the right thing and unfortunately he didn't

and it doesn't make me bitter I'm just sorry that I put so much time and so much respect and love into something that and it didn't get to return from it now what I've seen

like I mean that was perfect what I've seen with your podcast is unbelievable I listen to it every week and that recent episode with Ash kind of had me thinking like you know

you know not that you and I should massive or deal or whatever you know but you know it's reference in the podcast that you guys have made amends and it's great to see you guys together again man it's really cool is that any way that could happen with john do you think at all well i think even listen to ariel hawani when eriole hoani asked him and he went sure i think that that answers it we're all from dublin we're stupid you know what i mean we know um body language of you much um with john i don't think so I don't think so.

I don't think he'd ever cross that bridge. You know what I mean? I think whatever happened on his side in his situation, he thinks something else. He thinks something different. But the situation was, and it is, you should have had my back. Like you said you had my back that time,

but I went there and put my whole life on the line and my whole career. Like, if that gym had a failed off the back of that, I would have had no livelihood. And I have a kid. I've kids, you know? So what would I be doing at work in the center now? so the idea I can't I couldn't make up with somebody that kind of took took a shot of my livelihood of you must you know

how do you feel it all in right because I can remember sitting at you went the day you got elected and I was going doing the gym doing the podcast doing this now like you have a book you know it's like how do you manage that like I mean even from a point of view of I'm going to work on this today and then after that do that do that do that how in the name of God do you juggle all this man I'm not even messing with you I'm baffled by that. I'm baffled by it. Did you ever see Wallace and Robbins? No.

No. I was like, his bed tilts up and he slide down, goes into his trousers, his dog sticks the post on, the toes pops out. This is my house, Peece. I can't wait to go there.

How are you made? And this is, so I literally just, I'm just busy, man. I'm flat out busy. You love being busy, don't you? Good job. I do.

Well, I don't, if you look at the start few chapters, at my book, I don't like to have thoughts. I don't like to have, I like to have too much peace inside my head where I'm just thinking, you know what I mean? And I think I've left a little bit, I got to book off my chest of you must. So, does it free, does it feel therapeutic? Absolutely.

Like, people have said that to me. Wouldn't you feel how therapeutic it is? I was talking to, Richie Saddla today. Did a podcast with him. Did a podcast with him today. And he was like, it's just such therapy. It's like therapy that you get paid for. And I was like, that's a good way of looking at it.

And that's exactly. That's what it's like. I was able to get a lot off my chest and not only that, but timeline and figure a lot of stuff. And there's a lot of unsaid questions to do, obviously, with me and John, and all of this kind of stuff. And people come up to me and go, like, John's so great for giving you that gym, isn't it?

I bet you should be so grateful to him, and it's like, I can't tell you what the real story is here. But you can now? Well, I can. I did. I told the story, and now I don't have to answer it. People say to me, what's the story? Go ask the book.

And not only that, people can go ask other people now as well. kind of crack the egg in a way of like, what happened there? Because there's a huge thing and it's called devoid and conquer. To get our people as strong, devoided people that weak. Two quick predictions before I let you go. I think, I don't,

I've stopped riding off you out of anything. Like, I think you can do absolutely anything you want. Do you think we'll ever see a run, Patty Hewlin for president? Because I'm saying people talking about this all day. Every person that asked you to sign a book, book was like signing from the future president. A lot of people said that. And I've seen your power to compel people and to enthuse the youth of Talah, which I saw when

you got elected. I mean, ever kind of simmer around your head? Like, maybe I could do something even bigger than this. Absolutely. We could have a session in Artisan Nukton. Now, I definitely could believe that because what I'm looking at now is I'm looking at the situation of this place and I'm like, how not? Why couldn't me?

Like, why would I ever root myself off? This is like guys, it's like I was looking into the UFC back in the day. We're looking at guys that we technically was just so much better than it. And we could say, oh, you can't be here. We can't say that. I'm saying it again, and I'm saying it in a situation of him.

If I was the president of Ireland, I would probably represent more people on this Ireland than the president of Ireland. And that's literally what we're talking about. And I would, you could put me as a manager for the ministers. That's what the president should be. And he should be the one talking and telling him. Owen Murphy and all.

Call him into his office and saying, why is homelessness going up? You said last month a homelessness was going to go down. And now it's going up. Answer for yourself, boy. You know what I mean? I said, oh, here's there should be. And Leo should be getting dragged in and saying, listen,

where a president doesn't really do that. And it's kind of like they have it all sewn up in so many ways and you don't say that and I don't say it. So it would be a mad situation for the president think to come up. The last president's election was coming up. Did you know how many people in it? Oh, so, so if Paddy Hillen put his name forward for it, I'm pretty sure you'd get lads out there that are fed up at doing things and saying,

you know what? If he can be president, anything is possible. And that is possible. You were the most talked about electorate even before the thing. Like, I don't even blanchet down on the opposite end of the city than you. And everyone out there is like, can we eat over, buddy? And the thing is, in the presidential election, because you imagine my reach in that way,

in the way of, like, where ordinary people that, like, just go, You know what? He's like, and as I said, they're going to be presidential campaign and be like, well, back in 1992, he farted on a dog's head. You did it, buddy. You know, I don't know what?

It's like, so you can't be president. And that's the thing. What are we looking for? A perfect president? Well, no. Well, looking for somebody that has the experience to understand what it's like, right?

If Leo Radka was to say to me, like, yeah, yeah, but you were on the doll or something like that. I'd be like, yeah, that means, oh, you know how to budget the doll. So we know exactly what merely down the road is talking about. when she's talking about budgeting it.

You don't, me. And when your kid gets sick, I've set an A&E for 14 hours to 16 hours. You haven't. So, we're in a situation where do we want to be real by people that have,

haven't took a piss in the shoes that we are walking in, or let's give a chance. Like, what is it to you if we became president for a few years? I'd love it. Yeah, you'd love it. But imagine something like that didn't love it.

Like, what's it to do him? How much damage can I do? Yeah, yeah, you're right. So let's give her to go. have a go at this, you know. Of one more, Paddy. Here again, number one for Christmas. It gets my vote anyway.

Are you confident? You know, this is a whole new world again. We don't know. But it's an amazing read. As I'll say again, I know you my whole life pretty much. And when I was reading, that was like, holy shit. And you got the text message to prove it. I mean, I feel like a lot of people are going to be that way.

Do you feel like you can do it, number one? Yeah. So look, why don't? Like, why he couldn't be? No, people, people, people, people, people will understand the story. Anybody that's out there that middle class, elite class, a booking class, there's something in that book for everybody, you know what I mean? And the thing is, I've walked with, I've walked and been with all classes,

and the thing is, I'm accepting amongst them all as well. So, to me, there's something in that book for everybody, you know, and we all suffer from these mental spells that get up, and drag us down and stuff like that and there's times in that where I am literally on the floor so to me even to read a few of them

them passages and then go you know what? He's this big tough tough UFC fighter of your must or whatever and it's like we're not sometimes we're just literally delicate and that's all right but you have to have a process of being able to get back to being strong again you know what I mean so

it's all right to be delicate as well at times but you're recovering it's like after the fight, you know, he'd be strong again. Paddy, I love you. You're a legend, and it was a pleasure to be involved tonight. Thanks so much for inviting me. You're involved so much, Peter, because you deserve it. And thanks so much to Paddy.

Make sure you go out and check out Hooligan, which is available in all competitive bookstores. You can get it, of course, if you're one of our many listeners in the US, you can also get it online, so look into it. Yeah, let's start off with Cage Warriors. It's a big return this weekend

to Ireland. From me, as I said, the grain boiling earlier in that interview. It's all about this is the next generation who could potentially go on to be UFC fighters. And that's really what we need. We are starving for that at the moment. And it's something that no other promotion can really get us. We can't really achieve it with any other promotion really.

There's not the same feeling with Bellator. No. And look, Sean's interview, as we said earlier, sparked a lot of controversy. But, I mean, it does every time this Cage Warriors and Bellator thing. He didn't really say anything new. These are things that have been said. over and over again, we can feel like the Bellator people are feeling a bit threatened by it

because they've all come out and so defencally, ferociously defended the banner, which, of course, they're going to, but do they realize when they do this, like, Bellator writing back to the tweet and everything? It's terrible. I thought that was awful. They're actually, like, pumping this event up bigger for Cajorers. Yeah, no, 100%. When the answer, the problem is, right, everybody gets onto me after this thing breaks.

And I was like, I've been involved in this too many times to even get involved. Just like this again, I'm not doing it. I'm sure it's going to happen again next week I saw it yesterday I was like nah Do you know how many times I've been like Oh you've instigated this blah Blasso I'm like all right

So I saw it kicking off And then I was getting on a few people from Bellator getting onto me And I was like lads They were saying like only Only four people went to the UFC this year And I was like that's why it's interesting No not everybody's going to go

But that's why it's interesting They're all fighting for this one small thing Belator signed half of Europe Yeah But they haven't been able to make a compelling fight because they aren't fighting for anything. You know what I mean? This is the problem with the Europeans saying,

even with the likes of Queerley, who we feel is like a lead after that scope for you? Who's he going to fight next? It doesn't feel like he's building towards anything. It's just a bunch of fights, you know? That's the one thing that I guess that Belator can't really compete with Cage Warriors on. And it's the fact that these guys are going to the USC

and of course they're going to say money, money, money. That's great. But that doesn't put arson seats at the end of the day. Nobody's paying for a fight and going, do you know what? I'm going to go and see this because I'm so, pumped about them all getting paid so well. There you go.

It's great for the fighters. Don't get me wrong. I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled for the fighters, everyone involved, but that isn't compelling from a sports point of view. It's not. Not at all. You said it all there in one for me.

I think, you know, the elusiveness is, the lack, and maybe it's tougher to get signed by the UFC. No disrespect to the guys that have been signed and picked up by Bellator here in Europe, but it's very different towards their American shows, a lot of them. And let's just be honest about it. you know, we've seen a lack of Irish fighters, as you said, been signed to the UFC. I think that makes it more intriguing

because it is the biggest show in the world. And I just think that's the bottom line. You know, if you are a martial artist and you want to go to Bellator, I can totally understand that because the money point of view that is there. But if you want to go, if you want to fulfill your dreams,

it is the UFC, mate. You know, what do we grow up watching? What do we grow up watching? No, yeah, UFC. But what I'm trying to say is, like, so Bellator, did the great thing, you know, a lot of people talk about what they've done for Irish

MMA, but it's like, it's one gym, really, you know? Like, I mean, you get, obviously, you know, a few guys from Reno, outside of that, there's not a lot of, you know, outside of SBG who are very affiliated with Bellator these days, it's,

it's tough to see it good for the whole nation, you know? It's damaging, yeah. And then, I don't know if it's damaging, but, well, it is to certain other smaller gyms you can't get guys pro fights? Yeah, yeah, but I mean, that's why Cage Warriors, it's such a good thing. Like, we have guys from Cork, FAAI, Leen Beechner's guys, the McGuire brothers, you know, lots of different options, Rhino guys, you know. FAA.

Team KF, of course. So it's really good to see that. So I feel like that's why it's so important that Cage Warriors come back in. Yeah, well, it's more possibly of a level playing field for other gymses. As we just said, they're getting fighters on pro cards, and it's essential for the development of the sport in this country. it's good to see Kage Warriors back in Somerset but I'm still a little bit

worried about this card on Saturday. Are you afraid there will be a light spanner in the works? Same here. And I said it to Grime in the interview as well. I'm like look at the Dublin car. Yeah. I hope it doesn't happen because... It'd be an awful shame. Because there's going to be a lot of work to do then

as well for everyone, including us if that does if there is a light kind of a thing. I think it's huge that they're back. I'm really excited about it. And I'm fat to say like I've seen a lot of guys who I expect to go on to greatness in Irish MMA and sometimes I feel like the spotlight can take away from that and that's why I feel like now this fight's become even bigger for Ian Derry

because of this thing that happened it went viral obviously with Sean the statement that he made Beltor being like Barnsley but it does change situation now because now we were all just talking about how this guy is the next guy next big thing from the Republic of Ireland that's going to fight in the UFC essentially. That was pie in the sky. That's where this guy could go. And now it's going to be

all of these guys from Bellator I want this guy to lose. You know, it's different pressure. It's a lot of expectation. And that's where I feel like it's changed slightly what we're going to see on Saturday, you know? Frommeen himself.

For Ian. For Ian. Yeah, not Frommine. I don't think he impress me an awful lot. It's the first time he sat down with him and Spogel him. Oh, yeah, no, he's great. But I'm just saying it's a different thing now.

I mean, there's a different storyline now. Yeah, there is a different storyline, but it's, it's a storyline that's going to put eyes on Ian Gary, and I think. Like, right now, he's a more talked about fighter than Reese McKee at the headline event. He is, yeah, and listen, it's good things for him, as long as he doesn't get sucked up in and emotionally. I don't think you will. I've talked to him since it. I think it's daunting when it first happens, though. You know, you're like, whoa. Yeah, it is. I think it always is. If there's any sort of commotion online or anything like that regarding yourself, but he's a guy that, you know, I was massively impressed by his maturity and what he was saying and when I spoke with him. He understands the game, he understands the media.

He's one of these guys that will be able to brush that aside on fighting out. It won't be an issue from. Yeah, and I think it's just you to Rees. I think everyone I spoke to at the media day, any media member, Graeme Boyle himself in our interview, Ian Gary even. Everyone thinks it's the next guy that's going from the south of the north. We said it for God knows how long, Pizze, and it is a massively important fight against the very experience going hack-on foes.

But, you know, Reese has everything there to get himself there, and he's another guy that's, like, I wanted to bring it up again, but you know, he said he would never go down the Bellator route, and he stuck to his words and that, and he stuck with the UFC dreams and aspirations and for Cage Warriors, so I'm massive looking forward to seeing recent there.

Yeah, looking forward to Paul Lawrence as well, who's moved to KF, devastating power that guy has. So Paul missed to KF? Yeah, yeah. I didn't realize that, okay, yeah. Decky McAleen and a man who, Andrew McGahn's been singing his praises for, God knows how long. He needs a win badly, man.

He's had two losses on the truck with Kjor, so hopefully he'll have that big performance when he takes on one know Jared Southwell. Also looking forward to seeing the McGuire brothers and Eric Nolan, of course, back in action as well. Moving on, we will have a look at KSW 51 very briefly because I won't really be able to cover this fight because on the same time as Cage Warriors, it's just a bit of a cluster for luck. Marius Puginowski, obviously against Erko Young, the main event. That's going to be very compelling for people in Eastern Europe.

There's no doubt about it. Boris Mankowski versus Bakosavich in the Komeni event. he also Damien Stasiak against Anton Rackich at 135 that's going to be a brilliant fight and yeah it's going to be a big one

and going over to Croatia I just feel like you gotta have Solich there like I mean that's what that's missing that look Alexander Illich is going to be on the card big deal from around that area too

in the Balkans but you gotta have solidich on this card you gotta have on the card man I'm sick I totally agree Is there any reason do you know He just fought too recently Alright okay

Fair enough Fair enough And took a short and I was a pound as well So fair enough And also with the weekend we have New OCE Moscow Mastew Zabeed and Magamette Sharapov

In the main event against Calvin Kair That's a serious main event It's a serious fight It's great I expect him to do it Zabit though to be honest I do But listen I've been very impressed with Kater

I saw him a 2-2-3 in person And You know really really solid fighter technically go out everywhere but I think you know if we look at the beating Amar Magal Melaer he's on a different level and just he is on

that world class level and let's be honest I think within the next year this is the real push for him to kick on in 2020 with a win here and you know we're going to be seeing him I think by title shot at the end of the year against Max Holloway or Volkinovsky in the 45 pain division if Greg Hardy beats Alexander Volkov

in the common event I'll eat my hat okay there you go I'm actually going to make you eat your fucking hat if that happens You think he's on... No, he's not. He's not going to be it. This is going to end. We all know this is going to end.

There's going to be an eye poke or something like that. It's going to end with something stupid again. That's really. How is this going in this position he's in? I don't know. I think Volcanovsky, or Volcanovsky, Jesus. Settie's looking forward to challenge the real monster division. Mate, are struggling with the lads that they're bringing off the bench to fight you.

He's struggling. Yeah, no, listen, this could be it for him. You know, is this, you know, is this, I think he might be reconsidering things maybe after this fight. Come to the end of the road? Yeah. Just let him have Gan before he goes home so we can see. I think everyone wants to see that one against him.

But listen, no, if you're a betting man, you're a silly man. If you're putting money on him, our good old friend, Mr. Greg Hardy, I don't think he's much of a chance. I'm sick of this adventure. Let's just end it. Danny Roberts is back against IMA Deif on the main card too. Yeah. Listen, Danny's a great fighter to watch.

He's a great lad too. He's a lovely fella, but he's had some very, very nasty knockouts. Listen, hopefully for him he can go in and put their honor performance and sort of reverse maybe the thoughts and the memories that are on people's minds. It's a big, big fight for Danny. Ed Herman. I love watching Ed Herman fight. Always good.

Glad they could get him a replacement opponent. Obviously, hasn't fought since that win over Pat Cummings earlier this year, but Ibrahimov should be a good test for him, moving down the card. A lot of guys I don't know. Really, like, Gamsataph against, I don't know, Clouettes and Abrao. Yeah, Don't know. Ramazan, Emi F, he's good, he's fighting Anthony Rocco Martin. That's a good fight.

Geez, a lot of these lads, I mean, like, we're wasting our time. Are you talking about this? It is. It's not, you know, we spell with this. Oh shit, Roman Coppiloff, finally making his debut. That's a big one against Carl Robertson. That's a brilliant fight. It's not a deep card.

But that's a brilliant fight. Copilof versus Robertson. That's brilliant. Wow, I didn't know he's making his debut here. He was obviously one of my prospects to watch in 2019, so really excited about that. Yeah. It's shallow. Panny there in the Court and Jerker against Jesse Clark as well.

So, yeah, it's a bit of. a shy card davy grant against grigory popoff love a bit of davy davy's great to watch um that's pretty much it that's all of it isn't it

it's not a great card it really isn't it's it's not as deep and you know I think the ufsh the ufshu send like brazilian there I think they should show there the russians a little bit more spec because it's a massive market for them there yeah

but that's a huge car for them though like all these russian guys all these m1 challenge that is that is yeah that's true but yeah that's pretty much it it's not I watch it on the train home from Cork

there you go if there's why we're on the train probably not you wouldn't be caught it if you missed it and had to watch it the next day it's one of those ones isn't it

but you know we'll be watching it live yeah of course we will but I'm just saying for our listeners like I wouldn't be fucking tuning in on I'm pretty exhausted now

I have to say if you've a trip to the pub maybe make it I'm looking forward to I'm just looking at this fucking rain here it is brutal well that's it

That's all we have really from my MMI point of view for this week. MMA? But what else? I just need. England lost? Oh yeah. The rugby. I didn't much a second of it.

Did you not? No. To be honestly, it was awfully promoted. They've done something seriously wrong with their marking team there. You could go all week last week and I don't think anyone's Sky didn't even hardly pick it up, talk about it. And that's very unlike them to not be bragging about the English being in a World Cup final. and it was very subdued, I felt. But United lost again, after four fights, four games winning, very disappointing performance against Bormons.

They're sure. Yeah, we're going to have to accept that I said a few weeks ago. You know, you'll get your wins and you get your losses. But it's going to be a period of, a lot of inconsistency, period. A period of regrowth. Yeah. For quite some time, while Liverpool's at top of the table. I'm raging that you're not going to be in a park this weekend.

Yeah, I can't make it down this weekend, unfortunately. I'm only going on the day. Yeah, I'm still, I'm very disappointed. I'm not going, but, you know, just can't get down or can't make it. I have prior commitments, so, yeah, I'll obviously be watching. I'm very much looking forward to the co-main and main event and that to see if Mr. McKee can have a successful $170. debut. I think it's a big, big moment from.

I think that is, like, I mean, if there was any complaints in terms of that card, it would be that Joe McCulligan didn't get a fight. You need to get him on the card. You know, maybe we'll have a couple of additions this week. I don't know that they haven't announced yet, but it doesn't see... And why not Chris Veils Vukakis in it? We should have done that, yeah. That would have been fucking great. Chris is gagging to get back in there by all accounts from his sweater.

Well, I know he said it to us once. He definitely said to us once that he was interested in that, you know, so. Yeah, he's going for a fight, I think, by all accounts. But, yeah, I think Reese's, for me, it's a big test. One-70, veteran like Hack on Foss. Boyland says he's straight into the Coil of Conversation when I win. I think it really is one of those fights where you know

this one could open the door in 2020 for a path for Rees McKeith the UFC and that's not a word of a lie one, two fights maybe after this it'll dictate a lot from where Chris Rees's career trajectory is going to end up and I think he's all the tills to do it and I think that

touch of death as we call it will transfer over you know he's actually being saying that to us as well it's a funny one because everyone's because he's not now the touch of death. Since we've been saying it and I think it very much is and I expect them to land that in and hack on Fawson Saturday night.

Where the agenda set is for the European sports? It's just a shame that Of course people are taking our lines, you know? Yeah, it's a shame that cork is getting this line, like Cork's a horrible place. Cork is deadly, man. That's not.

You've never gone to the north side of Dublin's I mean, you don't, fuck. Here, meet me 20 minutes from my house. Why would you want to go anywhere? He sends me a message at quarter to 10. We're meeting a quarter pass. He's only getting the bus. I've been on the go over two.

hours. When you were late, five minutes. I was on time. Well, you changed the time. Yeah. Call an audible on it. Yeah. Don't do that.

15 minutes. Shut up. You're always late anyway. Listen, better late than pregnant. I would have been standing there for fucking 20 minutes anyway. So what's the point? Listen. I'm going to do that from now on.

I'm going to say like, Pizzi, I'll meet you a quarter past or 10 o'clock. So you'll come a quarter past, thinking 15 minutes to head in my head. Yeah, well, you know, whenever I can walk 17 miles. You know, it depends on walking that morning. I could have got the bus. Jesus Christ. I wouldn't be walking on. wearing this weather. Look at that fucking shit.

Right, well look, I'm going to leave us to it. I don't want to go, yes. I don't want to go, yeah. I'll leave you in this cafe by yourself. Can I just talk for the rest of the... Of course you can. Next half an hour. All right. Listen, yeah, good one. Great, great week of fights and and, yeah, pleasure is always made. I don't know if it's going to be with us next week

because I'm going to just have to record that because I'm not going to have time to go. In Cork? Yeah. Shunning me on air. This is disgraceful. I just haven't been a fucking time in the day, and I don't have a car and I don't have a lot of things that I need to have. This is disgraceful. Because I'm the engine room with this podcast

We know that Fuck you You're in your bullets I'll talk just later All the best