MMA Fighting - Eurobash: Episode 64 (w/ Jack Hermansson, Paul Redmond)

Episode Date: December 17, 2019

On the latest episode of Eurobash, Jack Hermansson (15:30) underlines his interest in facing Darren Till at UFC London. Paul Redmond (49:00) also joins the the podcast to discuss his newly announced bout against fellow top rated European lightweight, Ryan Scope. Petesy Carroll and Niall McGrath discuss the latest news in European MMA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's getting very Christmas-y in the world of European M.M.A. And we're back on the south side in Milltown, Stalorgan. Home of Graham, McLoughlin, McDonald, a severe in my glory. But here we are with Noel McGrath. You've somehow snared us back to your neck of the woods. How did you have it? Oh, listen, you know that. I was dying to get over.

Yeah, you were. We actually had to go and meet Paul Redmond earlier today for an interview because his fight with Ryan Scope was just booked. But are you feeling Christmas yet? No, I've been stuck in the office all weekend. So no, not getting very Christmassy there Maybe listen to the ads on TV, but that's about it Literally nothing else, mate.

Now, town is buzzing around. There is a vibe around, but no, I haven't done anything yet. I've shopping and all to do for my nieces and nephews and my mum and dad, so... Yikes. This week, I will, I'd say. We'll get into it.

When the boys start coming back in from overseas and shit like that and the points start flowing. I believe you might have had a point, Pee. I did. Two of the most legendary points against in Dublin. The roles have been reversed. Yeah, I really did feel like Noel McGrath this weekend

out being a... Latario out, you know, dancing. I felt wonderful the last three weeks we've done this. Yeah. Because I've been good. I've been stuck in work. Saturdays and Sundays doesn't help. So, yeah. That's my weekends down the train. I'm a midweek drinker now, Pizzi.

Yeah, it's a good way to be, to be honest. I'm usually like that myself, but I went down to the Straw Hall with my mates. Collie and Sands and Paul, and we enjoyed their fabulous Guinness. It's a nightmare to get home from, but I got home fine. The rest of them are stuck there for now. The Guinness looked delicious in fairness. It was fantastic. And then the hole in the wall last night.

Met up with Keith Pendred and, own Colgan and some of those Hardy books me and Elaine were down there very good times I think my mate Keith actually drafted me into the hole in the wall because he was on a date and he brought me in Elaine because we're the best crack couple in the whole world wouldn't you agree?

No. The lane's good crack you're miserable kids. I am the best crack the only problem is I think that sometimes you know they're bringing me in the lane in the problem is the girls usually start falling for me and it's like dude you know what I get to a lot as well I'm too good looking to do this kind of thing I do get that a lot

girls are intimidated by my beauty feel. Well, that's why I keep you away from Elaine because she just run away with you. That's it. But, um, 100%. I'm very Christmas now.

After that weekend of, of feasting on Uncle Arthur. It is out in the roads, but I haven't, I haven't, I'm slowly getting there, but I'm not, not at that level yet.

Wait, I'll get about 15 points in the other hands. Yeah, that's 15 points a lot. It's not. It's not. A more of four or five. Like four or five is carried home. His breakfast,

his breakfast, mate. Six or seven is, six or seven is lunch to eight. And then Antonin plus, that's a night out. I love to do. I love that you just drink Guinness in the nightclubs.

Because everything else is like it's not great now in the old nightclubs but it's, I'm not drinking that feck and any spirit and shit it's like petrol mate. Is it keeping up in that stage? Like you just in case the squad's here like yeah, now you're damn right

have a point in this mate. Yeah. Why not? Right. Fuck them all. We, I'll better run through these latest news headlines after a big big week

UFC 245 of course. So, this is number one bullshit. Camer Usman says Leon Edward deserves the next shot at his welterweight title. Of course, Jorge Mazbidal is still at play there, and a lot of people still seeing Leon Edwards as the odd man out,

but that is interesting that Usman has said that he is deserving of that. That has to be a good thing for Leon. Dana White says McGregor will get another shot at Habib following a win over Donald Seroni, which has raised quite a few eyebrows. Francis Ngannu v. Gersino Rosenstruck will get it on on March 28. John Phillips v. Undefeated Dusko Todorovich. we'll go down at USC London

the second fight confirmed for that earlier today we found that that Paul Redmond v. Ryan Scope is going to happen on February 22nd absolutely brilliant Quilly v Brent Primis Liam McCourt the Judith Ruiz

Dylan Logan be Tom Merns Kieran Clark the Jamie folding Ilius Bullyad the Diego Fridus and Constantine Blanida versus Acile Adudi I don't know how to pronounce that name

all booked for Belator Dublin as well And finally, the cast of Cage, where is London on March 20th the day before U.S. London, I expected to be a big show, has been announced. Paddy V. Donovan Desime, Tour Times a Charm is going to take present on that card. Obviously, Samir Fadeen, Mason Jones, Ian, Gary, Corny McKenna, Sam Creasy, Jamie Richardson, Emeras, Summers, Darren O'Gorman, Nathan Jones, Kingsley Crawford, and James Hendon all set for action on the night as well. interesting months before you get going I wanted to talk to you about a few of these because a lot of these are interesting where, like, I mean,

where do you feel Leon is now after this? Ah, he's the man. Do you think you'll get it though? No. I think you'll get it in 2020. Yeah, I don't think he's going to get it next. I think there's other fights. Can I do Mazvedo?

Yeah, that's what I would think. That's the big money sort of name at the moment. I think Usman's stock has risen after the weekend with that win over Calby. Did everything right on the microphone afterwards. didn't, you know, go ahead and shit and Colby Covington said he was the best, no one comes near him. And I think

when you're fighting a guy like Cobby, I think there was a lot more eyes than normal on the fight. Yeah, we'll talk about the fight obviously later on, but Usman, as far as his career wants to go, if it's the money fight, you know, it is Maswell, I think that will be the sensible one. And they don't come along that often, right? Like a money fight like that, you've got to go.

You've got a strike while the iron's hot, and I think the UFC you've been doing that, obviously, in the last three to four years. So I think that's the fight they're going to be targeting, and I think Leon's going to have to wait out again, but Leon does deserve it, but I don't think it's going to happen. What do you think of this?

McGregor, another shot of Habib, after Soroni, that seems a bit mad, doesn't it? Yeah, Dana's talking train here again. Absolutely sick. Yeah, I think Connor clearly is going after that 170. Mazved al-Fight, as we just mentioned, he's the man at the moment. He tweeted

that as well, I think he put 145, 155, 170, I commented my Twitter that looked like an IP address. He was dots after. But, yeah, I think think that is where he's going. I can't see Ababa. I think you were right what you said last week.

And in terms of Connor, what he said in relation to having this season of fights, I think that is the line he's going to go down. And I think he's going to push hard. After, I do believe he's going to beat Cowboy, he'll get on the mic and he'll call from Asvado. Interesting, yeah, that could obscure it after us. What do you think? I think that is.

Yeah, I think he'll want to go with his own plan. There will be some friction along the way, as always. But, you know, Paul Rebman v. Ruinsko, big fight. We needed another big fight on that card. We'll talk about the fights now in a minute because I have some... Not too happy about some of them, but one in particular,

but Paul V. Ryan's a brilliant, brilliant fight. Yeah, Paul versus Ryan is a really good fight. I think it adds to, you know, as we said last week, Peter Quilly and Brent Primus in terms of actually having really good matchups in the card. That's what we need. That's what we've been sort of starved of. We've been critical of the matchmaking,

and I asked Peter Quilly that. Peter actually sort of agree with me. He's been very, very honest last week when we spoke with him. And I think, you know, that fight between Primus and Quilie does, potentially, you know, they're knocking on the door for a title shot after that. And I think that's what Peter's being told from what he was saying in the interview.

And I think Paul Rebond and Ryan Scope, if Paul wins that, that could potentially set up a title eliminator literally against Peter Quilly or Brent Primus. So it's really exciting times for the lads and the Irish guys in Bellator. And that proves that there is something on the line in these Bellator events. Exactly. And that's a good point because they have an opportunity there to make a story that will be able to be brought into an next event. And that's something that they're really lacking in. they do it.

Just one note on this Bellator card. Ilya Boulade is a veteran of nearly 200 kickboxing fights and for the second time now he's been matched with a fight who's never competed before. You know, a debuting pro. I think you need to have a look at that.

I'm not messing. I think the commission need to have a look at that. If you remember the Toyquandot girl, she was matched with a fire day didn't think was adequate and Mahican son actually pulled it, but I don't think that's fair. at all. Bulli had destroyed the guy he fought in his debut.

He's brilliant kickboxes. He's absolutely fantastic. Can't be putting in a poor guy who's never fought before against a guy who's spent his whole life kickbox? Crazy. I mean, that's dangerous. Bellator tend to do that,

even with, you know, sort of lower-down fights we mightn't hear of, of Olympians coming in and rescues kick-off. It's not good enough. You have a responsibility to make people be safe

in there, as safe as they can be. Exactly, yeah. And yeah, that's a very, very odd one. It's just poor. It's not professional. It's not professional. It's not professional. And it's, it's

putting his smoke screen on opponents he's going to be beaten and he's probably going to go in there and starch him and he's literally patting his record to a certain extent if that's what they're trying to do I get that he's transitioning but it's a different thing going from the gym to a fight

to a decorated kickboxing world champion to fucking MMA yeah just wanted some talking points and it is a bit on Leon Edwards etc and Peter Jan after their you know Jan's huge performance at USC 245. We'll talk about it later on. We've been trying to get Peter on the show. Unfortunately, he just doesn't have a translator with him. We're trying to get it sorted with the

great Soiat. Don't know if we're going to be able to pull it off. But, you know, fingers crossed, we'll get them on a couple of weeks. I'd be scared. I'd be scared if I were... I tread very carefully. He's coming for you next. But one talking point I wanted to kind of bring up is, you know, the great sense that I got at this event the other day was we're going to have, we could potentially have a huge 2020 in our hands for European fighters. Leon Edwards is right at the top of that list now for the Welterweight title. Jan is right at the top of the list for the 135 title. You have Jojo and Molly making big boos at 125.

I think Molly's on a three-futte win streak. Jojo has been in the conversation for a long time. You've Tailing Hermanson at middleweight. We're going to hear from Jack later on. And Jan Blakovich, right at knocking on the door at 205. I think, you know, we've made a lot of... McGregor? Yeah, McGregor coming back.

Habib is the champion, Valentina, who we've claimed Habib. U.S. who? Yeah. So we have two championships out of what, nine now. Yeah. I think potentially we could be adding three or four, like, you know, one or two in 2020 as well. Definitely, I totally agree.

And I think as well, you look at Bellator, you know, this guy's knocking on the door there, as we said, you know, this Dublin car potentially kicking on for the second half of 2020 in order to get title shots. It's going to be a fun year. Yeah, listen, man, I wouldn't bet against any of those. You know, I think Darren's right in the doorstep as well. If you obviously jack on this week,

he's going to speak about that. That's a potentially crack and a fight as well. Brilliant fight. And the winner is, you know, literally, especially if Darren wins, I think Darren is right there after the guy. Huge name, yeah, of course.

No brainer, so yeah. Loads to look forward to fucking out. It's actually funny I was talking about to Jack about that. It was like, it's funny, right? I'm sure you felt as though it was, you know, at the end of the world, basically when you lost the can there.

But if this Till fight happens, I mean, you're right there again. Yeah, you're right there again. It's literally, it's like a reprieve. It's like a second, you know, sort of spot for him and a second opportunity for him to kick on. And, you know,

if he went out and knocked out Darren Taylor or something hit at Darren Taylor or something. the first or second round. Bang. He's right up there again. Absolutely, man. Absolutely. Just finally, we're at the Bellator Media Day during the week. We were. Very warm. Very warm there. Some great

pictures to you. You're in a beautiful position there. I made sure I got that out. Turtled up. Fantastic. Yeah. Disgusting. Your booty was popping. Yeah, no, I'm hot. I got a lot of social media traction. People were DMing me and stuff as well. Do you sell your underwear to your fans online? How much? 50 quid a pop.

Bargain. But I'd say once I get like a photograph like that and they see the Calvin's on you. I'd say that drives it up double the price. Oh, massively. Yeah, yeah. Like, he could have bollick sweat still in there. Oh, Jesus, that's okay, that's a bit too far. Someone at that ball soup. Or someone at McGraw.

Okay, let's just move on. A cup of ball soup. But, yeah, it was good times. Definitely James and Cal have a good bit of fire there between them now, don't they? Yeah, and I think James was very interesting. He's trying to stir up. Obviously, he's great at it, you know, putting eyes and fights and stuff. asked him where he's like, no, not at all. And then he goes on

and he says, I'll listen to me like, what, Jesus? So he basically said, you know, and he probably said the same to you, that Cal was very much you know, he believes Carl just look for a way out and he could have got him a brain scan. Just sort of some silly comments really from James just turned to the pot I think. But you got to, you got to respect

Carl though. You know, he's bopped straight back in there. He had a really, really tough time. His mum died. Obviously he had the issues with the scan. And he's selling it. He's going in there believing, you know, after that winning as Nathan Grayson who I think people sort of underestimate how good Carl is and how much of a star and an underrated, underappreciated

guy he is on the UK MMA scene this is a real test, this is a really, really good fight man and the top three fights as we said in the card are excellent matchups and I'm just really excited after speaking to two of them I think I'm more excited now than I was maybe going into last week I'm definitely more excited and like this needed to happen

this animosity needed to happen because it was never going to be sold on these two last get on well but the thing with James is like and this is this is why it's such a big opportunity for Cal like I said to you I've been to Bellator events in London and stuff they aren't the same as when Galaher fights in the tree arena it's a sellout

every time it's huge people stayed there the last fight you know you saw people leaving in London after their guys were on or whatever they were leaving you know this this is a this is a big thing here you know and the funny thing is again you see a lot of comments on James and you know I got a couple of messages from my mates as well and obviously

not going to name them but um you know who's this fucking idiot who is this That's what he's trying to do. That's exactly. People don't get it. You're still talking about him. You're still bitch in a moment. You're the idiot that's buying into it.

He often says, you're invested in what he wants to do. They're helping me build my brand. Exactly. 100%. And the thing is, he's the most talked about fire in Europe. Like, I mean,

more than MVP. More than MVP. On their roster in Europe, he's the most talked about guy. He's, listen, to be honest, he's probably the most talked about roster in the world nearly.

Who else? That's what he was saying to me. He's got, like, you know, name a champion that's a bigger draw than me. name. You know, he's definitely got an argument there.

I think he is. I was the biggest name. James Galaher. I understand. It's crazy, isn't it? Who's the biggest name in Belletra, M.A? Who's the biggest,

the most well-known fighter in Beliswara M.A? It's tough to argue outside of James in terms of what he's down. The traction is unbelievable. And he's relevant now. You know what I mean? It's happening now for him.

There you go. Yeah. Right, well, look, we were talking about what a big year could be potentially for European MMA in 2020. And look, look, the rumors are right. We talked about it last week on the show between Leon Edwards and

Tyron Woodley. I feel like Tyrone Woodley needs to get paid there. I feel like they need to give him some money if they want to come to London. But Jack Hermanson and Till is another fight that a lot of people are talking about. A lot of people are excited about. Hermanson believes this fight can happen. We got a word with him area this week. Always a gentleman. Fantastic insight on his reaction to the defeat,

how it's motivated him. And what's securing this London main event would it mean to him. So always great to speak to the great Jack Hermanson. We'll be back very shortly to have a look at what happened last. week. I am now joined by one of the greatest European fighters that is currently competing in this area. It is none other than Jack Hermanson. Jack, how are you, my friend? Long time now speak. Yeah, it was a time ago now. I'm good, I'm good, man. It's been good then I'm back in full

training and yeah, looking forward to next year. Absolutely, absolutely. I must ask you, you know, the last time we would speak, it was ahead of that cannon air fight. And look, I spoke to you before this, and we knew the tremendous risk that you took that night, and unfortunately it didn't go your way. But, I mean, how has it been? You know, I know everybody in Europe was in your corner that night.

We all wanted to see you enter that middleweight title picture, but has it been difficult since then? I know it was obviously a huge platform for you that night. Yeah, it was, you know, it's always tough with a loss, but at the same time now I felt like I learned from this and it was

yeah it was a good experience in some ways you know I knew what I could do that night but I didn't manage to do it so and I felt like I learned why now and I feel like a better fighter

so I'm looking forward to what's coming and I'm sure that I will be able to perform better in my next bout. And I mean, I really respect the fact that you put it all on the line that night just to compete in front of your fans in Scandinavia there, of course, because we knew the great position you were in, and I think media, fighters and fans, I think everybody really respects the fact that you risked everything that night,

you put it all in the line. I mean, do you feel good about that? That's something that you've always been known for in your career, fighting anyone, fighting all comers. We thought it would be a different opponent that night, but you had no problem in signing on the dotted line. Do you think that stands to you? Yeah, for sure.

And I don't regret it at all. I feel like if I lose, then it's for a reason. I want to reach the top and I want to be able to beat everybody. So I'm not the person that will, you know, trying to find a smart way to be. either. I feel like I should have beat him and if I couldn't and then there's something that's not complete yet so I feel like that was a part of the process and as I said I feel like I'm better now just because of that loss so maybe that was a piece that I needed to be even

better fighter. Yes, yes absolutely. Just one more question on this. this, Jack. I just, the fight and obviously the result reminded me a lot of Alexander Gustafsson and Anthony Johnson, that fight that happened all those years ago in Sweden. But, I mean, Gustafson, you know, he said this made him so much of a better fighter. He went on to fight for the title many times afterwards. But did, is it, does it make it like one of the harder loss of your career because it was in front of your own people and the fact that you were the main guy there, right?

Everybody was there to see you that night. It was tough, but at the same time, I had tougher losses before, and I feel like I found a good way of handling it. And, you know, after a fight like that, when you lose, you need to look over the picture, what went wrong, and take what you can from it. And then I need to look ahead, you know, I only dropped one spot on the ranking. and I'm sure I will have more great opportunities in close future. So I don't feel too bad about it, actually. And I'm sure that my time will come. Amazing, amazing.

You already sound like you are back to full strength, and that is very good news, because you have been subject to a lot of rumours ever since this UFC London card emerged. On our show, what we are hearing is the fights the UFC have been thinking about putting on here is Darren Till v. Jack Hermanson or Leon Edwards v. Tyrone Woodley. Now, we already heard that Tyrone Woodley has no interest in going to London.

Is that a fight with Till something you'd be interested in? Definitely. I think that's the best opponent that I could face in the moment. And I think that's a fight that would make a lot of fans excited. And I think it belongs on the London card. So Darren is a new division. He had a great fight against Gastelam, and I think I would be a good next test for him. So I would love that fight. Yeah, and I mean, I can remember we spoke about TIL ahead of that fight, and I was the one saying to you, this is a crazy matchup.

Why would they put Tills straight in there against Gastlam? Yeah. I mean, that was quite impressive, wasn't it? I really was impressed with what Darren did that night. It was amazing. It was like, I think that was one of its best fights, actually, because game plan-wise and how he handled the distance. not just keeping the diesel but when Gathlund wanted to close it

he closed with him and clinched that but I think it was a beautiful executing game plan so I was super impressed with Aaron Can you tell us if this is something that you believe is in the process of happening have the UFC talk to you about this like how far are we along in the process

of making this a thing because I believe if that fight happened the UFC could bill it as let's see who the best middleweight in Europe is And that is a huge headline, right, for a fight card like that? Yeah, absolutely. I'm not sure where they are in the process right now, but I know that, you know, Till and Whittaker have been flirting with each other. But I also got some indications that they like this fight between me and Till.

So I'm positive that we'll make this happen. and yeah, I'm going to work for it and, you know, there has been some rumors about cannone here and Withaker. So if that fight will happen, then I feel like it's a pretty logic fighter as well that, you know, me and Till would fight. And as you say,

would determine who the best middleweight in Europe is and I think that's an exciting thought. Absolutely, absolutely. And even the style matchup is incredible as far as I'm concerned. What do you think of the matchup? I mean, you just said there that you were blown away by what Till did to Gaslam. I mean, does that excite you the thought of facing a guy who's tall, you know, known for his knockout power? You know, just after that fantastic striking showcase you put on against Jackeret, that's what's really exciting me when I think about this. And, of course, your signature guillotine, which I've raved about for a long time now.

Yeah, absolutely. It's a fight that excites me. both because he's a great fighter and he's a well-known fighter as well. So I think he's a good name to be fighting against. And I think it's an exciting clash of styles as well, with me probably being a little bit more wrestling in ground-heavy and a little bit more of a stand-up fighter. But this is something that I learned from my last fight we came on here, is that, you know, I'm not going to lock myself into the ground game and wrestling too much, you know,

because that takes away from my stand-up. As you mentioned, the Jaquare fight, that was a fight where I was, yeah, I was just like thinking in that fight, you know, I don't need to take this fight to the ground, because he is the best on the ground, right? And that made me fight better in the stand-up. So I feel like in a fight with Till, I would really take my time and, you know, not rush the ground game at all. But as I could, yeah, I see myself. I see us having a great fight.

And, yeah, I would love to make it happen. It's funny, isn't it, Jack, because, you know, I'm sure I can only imagine, of course. But when you suffer this defeat to a cannon air, you must be thinking, oh, this is going to put more time towards my climb to the UFC title. But I really feel like if this fight happens and you beat Darren Till after he beats Calvin Gasolum, the UFC have a very interesting proposition on their hands there, right? Definitely, definitely.

So, you know, I might not be first in line if I win the fight, but maybe second. So it's, yeah, I love that thought as well, of course. So I still think, you know, even if I lost, my last fight. I believe that I can make some great things happen next year and to get back in there

in title contention. Absolutely, yes. And I was just wondering, right? Because the last time I spoke to you, Robert Whitaker was the champion of the middleweight division. And, you know, he shot, the Stoylbender shocked a lot of people by getting the win that night in such infantic fashion in the second round, I believe. I was in Melbourne for that fight. And I just

feel as though this is a whole new era now, this Stoylebender guy, he's one of the big names in the UFC now. But, but I mean, what do you think of his assent in the UFC? Did that surprise you

when he beat Whitaker the way he did? You know, it takes a lot to surprise me, but I did have Whitigar's the favorite, so I was very impressed.

But I still, I feel like we need to see more for Matatania, you know, especially on the ground and how he handles himself there.

I think we haven't seen enough on the ground yet to really know that he's a complete fighter and everybody knows that he has a great background in stand-up fighting but I believe that it takes quite some years to get really really good on the ground so yeah I can't wait to test him in that area if we would fight yes I mean that's what I was thinking like is that is that um do you feel as though like people like you

yoll romero the different wrestlers in the division will be able to test him a different kind of test than Winnigar did, because Wittaker seemed to want to strike with him, right? And, of course, that's Stoyle Bender's wheelhouse. Yeah, especially me, because, you know, Joel Romero is that guy that everybody knows that he has Olympic level wrestling, but he never uses it anyway.

So, you know, you think that I'm in this fight is going to take somebody down, but he doesn't, you know. And I think that's, you know, he likes to conserve his energy in his fights. And so I really believe that if he would have found, I fight, Arisania, he probably would have done it a stand-up fight anyway. So I think, yeah, I'm probably the main guy that would like to take him down and see what he has there. Yeah, that's actually funny.

It actually frustrates me when I'm watching Y'all Romero sometimes because he's so fantastic. I'm like, why isn't he taking him down? Jack, you've answered all my queries today. Thank you so much, a gentleman as always, but I have one more question for you. Of course, no. I just wanted to know, you know more than me. You're over there in the Nordic region, and the talk is that Alexander Gustafsson could be returning.

I know he has said it a few times. Do you feel as though Alexander Gustafsson has one final run left in him? I believe so, because it must have been tough for him to leave the sport with, you know, those close fights with John Jones. I feel like that's one of his life's mission, you know, that... So I'm surprised if it doesn't return, actually. And Alexander has been a little bit up and down over the years, you know, with the motivation, but I really feel like now when he took a step back

and he maybe can relax a little bit more and look over the situation and they regain his composition, I believe he will come back, and I would believe that he will make another run for that title. How cool would that be in 2020? You, Alex, all of these great Scandinavian fighters like Dalby, if they did it again, with you and Alex there at the top of the card,

that would be unbelievable, wouldn't it? Oh, I would love that. That would be amazing. Jack, thank you so much, my friend. Always a pleasure to speak to you, and I hope they make that fight happen for UFC London. It would be fantastic. Thank you very much.

Let's go for it. Okay. Thank you. Bye-bye. Thank you. Always a pleasure to speak to the great Jack Hermanson. Looking forward to see what they do with that UFC London card. But it looks like they're going to put on something decent.

Like, I mean, even the talk of Edwards and Woodley and the talk of Armantson and Till, I feel like they kind of have to get one of them now. Yeah, I think they do when you're talking about that and people are so vocal about it, the attractions there on line with people who want to see it, they're going to have to do one of those two, fights and I think it does set it well and I think it will be a smart one to as I believe to go after the Tarren Woodley and Tail Fight because

Tyron Woodley and Edward should I say because Leon does deserve that platform and I think if he is to push on and win that fight and get a title shot it's a no-brainer to really sort of warm him to his home people yeah absolutely and let the Americans see that kind of reaction big big fight card at the weekend as we said at the top of show massive implications there for the European

fighters, especially Leon, of course, and Peter Jan, who got a brilliant win over Eurio Fabor, as we predicted quite vocally ahead of the fight. But, you know, first of all, we didn't come away with a new title. We thought Germain Durandami was in with a chance, albeit a slim one against the greatest female fighter of all time, but what's you think of that fight now? Yeah, no, it was... She was brilliant, wasn't Jimanda? She was brilliant, yeah, and arguably it could have been stopped in the second round,

or the first Germain was really hanging on for the first couple of rounds I think that was the way it was always sort of gonna play out if she was gonna win it was in the later rounds but trend with that arm bar

briefly I think it was in third round was it yeah it was unbelievable actually how Amanda bloody stayed in there you know because it was close but I think it just shows you and I think it was a good one for Amanda you know ever improved

and she liked have gone to five rounds because her last few fights have been so short man it's gonna stand to her and it just shows you how impressive she is she's not even fighting at her best she's not on her A game and she's still able to put her in performance

like that and win. And we saw a little bit more of everything than we've seen in the last number of fights from how good Amanda Nunes is in terms of her wrestling, in terms of her BJJ and obviously her strike. And so, Jermaine de Randami, very, very valiant effort, but just not good enough to beat the goat. Yeah, I agree. Volcanovsky was unbelievable.

Toddy was brilliant. Tad he fought really, really well. And you know what? The corner work there with Eugene and Joe and all those guys, unbelievable. The way they work, like, one talks, one talks, one talks, and everyone gets something in and they all give different information. And, Volkonowski is a great ability to process that.

You can see him, right? I'm going to listen to this guy. I'm going to listen to this guy. And then you're going to see him. Just before he goes out, he's trying to register. What did they want me to do? I thought his leg kicks were unbelievable. Unbelievable.

I think he really fucked with Max's game plan. You know, when he absolutely smacked his legs to pieces and, you know, he can't switch stances, which we know Max is so brilliant. And I think Max got really frustrated after the second round. The leg kicks kept landing. He kept yapping in his ear, kept talking like, come at me. Max was, no matter what you say,

Max was clearly getting frustrated. he's changed up a stance as well I know in the fight. Like I mean he dismantled him I felt Volcanowski dismantled him. It was the perfect execution. That's what I think I took from that fight. A guy you can go in, he did everything we thought, and we even said it last week. If there was a guy that was going to beat him, it was Volcanowski.

If he implemented the game plan in your face, quick in and out, it was a great fight. It was fantastic. Really high level technical shit to watch. I want to ask you question. There was a lot of sort of controversy. I was totally bemused by it online. A lot of people were saying so sick of the outrage on Twitter, man. I literally went on the Twitter and something, I just turned it off.

I was like, all right, we're going to fire Joe Rogan now. Come on. Yeah, yeah. It was clear. There's such a bunch of fucking whiners. I can't deal with it. Like, I mean, every weekend, all the lead up to this fight, people crying about Jose Al, though. He fought brilliantly.

It's like, lads, why he is always so upset? Like, I mean, there was, I feel like every time after one of these events, a huge event, there's more people pissing and moaning than going, what a great night of fucking fights we had there. Like, every weekend, like, Jesus Christ. People were saying, you know. It upsets me, like, all these people who are probably, watching MMA about two or three years talking about, Joe Rogan doesn't know what he's talking about.

Like, have you ever done a show? Like, you know, you're in the moment speaking. It's very difficult. You know, you don't know what the fuck that's like. So, you know, give him a bit of a break here. How many events is you have to do to get some respect? Like, crazy. Big time.

But I do, you know, I was a bit bemused by some of the people saying that they thought, you know, the fight was, you know, potentially Max's fight. I clearly had it scored. Oh, no, yeah. I couldn't really understand that. I couldn't fathom that. I did think. I did think that the fight was close.

Like I felt like the rounds were close. I thought Vulcaners was just about winning them. But I can understand that some people saw like some of the volume. Max was like towards the end of the round. And even in the Usman and Covening Fight, I was like, this is fucking close. Like every round I was like, holy shit, that's close.

Yeah, I thought that was, you know, closer in terms of watching it. But I think there was a discrepancy where you're going, listen, Josealdo or not Josealdo, my name is Jesus Christ. Max Holloway was chasing the fight going into the championship. I feel like some people, they don't score leg kicks. How did you not? It's like the most important part of that fight. I know, but unless they see him getting punched in the face, I don't care, you know?

And that's a... Yeah, no, I agree. And that was probably their perception, but it was a masterful. I would say a masterful performance on execution from Volcanovsky and listen, fair play to the kid. Yeah, absolutely. Usman Covenning was a brilliant fight. Absolutely brilliant.

Amazing. Colby fighting on with that jaw. Unbelievable. When did he say it to them at the beginning of the third round? Between second and third, yeah. He said it to... the boys in the corner. I can't believe he lasts

the little fifth round I was that. Did you see the punch that got him as well? Yeah, yeah, it was a beautiful punch. It was a beautiful punch. Very nasty. But listen.

But Cobby was landing his left a lot. Like I feel like his left hand looked brilliant. The upper cut as well was finding a home numerous many locations. But the body shots camera

was hitting him with fucking the straight teeth to the body and he's also hitting a beautiful right hand. It's kept on catching him beautifully with a straight right hand

to the body and really, really nice. Listen, yeah, no, it was so close. It was, you know, razor close, I think.

the last and I think one of the judges had a score that way as well and there was sort of a lot of mixed reactions on Twitter to how the fight was actually being scored going into the last round but listen at the end of the day it doesn't mean anything the champion went in there and probably to a certain extent did look as though he was chasing the fight um not chasing it he was going after the finish sorry as he got in the in the final round and did get that finish so that may say something to you and how he was maybe perceiving the fight as it was going along but uh you know fantastic performance and you can't take a lot away um from um cobbie's Coving Denider because he, you know, at the end of the day he got in there, put it up against

Karma Rousman and, you know, went really, really close and I think, you know, sensible stuff from him leaving the Octagon after as well. I thought it was clever. Yeah, I do. Yeah, like, but, you know, I think he did the right thing by coming out and Slate and Mark Godad, but he's completely wrong. Like, I mean, it's a great, it adds to his persona. He's complaining, he's saying, this isn't just, I, but still in the fight. That's why he has to say, but Goddard did a great job in that fucking fight. I was actually watching a fight, and it was such an amazing for you, but I kept noticing God out. It was like, he's doing a great job keeping

control of these. There's a lot of emotion there, and I think he did a great job to keep whole of it. People complaining about the low blow. Yeah, I understand that it wasn't a massive dick shot that had Usman rolling around, but if you have any contact below the waist there, that's a low blow. Like, it doesn't matter if you're You know, I actually haven't seen it back twice.

I've, you know, seen the bit of the replay we got during the broadcast. Like, he didn't catch him in the meeting too veg, like, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, but for me, we're looking at it, looked at the time that it just caught him on the belt line and it looked like... I think the area... It sort of hurts. Along the length of his foot really, wasn't it?

Like, it was like shin to feel nearly that connected. So... I can understand why Colby's having a... He actually didn't really bring that one up, actually, to be honest, yeah, but, you know, what did you think of the finish? There was a bit of controversy again about the finish, maybe that he didn't give... I think the odd person who thinks it's controversy is Colby Cobbington, no?

There was a lot online that, you know, maybe thought it was stopped to touch too early. That's probably the only... I think every stoppage in M.A. Now, like, I mean, they're always going to cry about it. Really much? Yeah. definitely. I think it's brilliant. I think it will

sell even more now. I think Calby has to come out and give out about Goddard. I think, you know, him not talking as well was genius because he doesn't have to answer the questions. Go away and hide for a while and everyone's going to get more angry. Keep talking about him. Why didn't Colby say, Anthony? I don't know if it's genius. I think he's a broken job, so you can't really speak with it.

Well, that is true as well. Right, let's move it on from this one. Allo, everyone thinks Alo won that fight. What do you think? I did. I thought he was doing it as well. I did. I have to say, you know, out of those three fights that we look at the top of the card, that was probably the most conclusive one to me, that in the Volcanovsky fight that Josie Alla won that fight two rounds to one,

and I think a pretty clear two rounds to one. I think, you know, even Marais was chasing the fight, sorry, in rounds two and three, Marais was chasing the fight and looked that way. The only thing I'm disappointed about shows is, man, leg kicks. Yeah, you seem to be landing early, right? And I was like, oh, shit, he's going to chop his leg up and then... And then just abandon it.

It was odd. Maybe there was an injury or something there, I'm not sure, but, yeah, I was surprised. Maybe we're going to wait for all the armchair nutritionists, to tell us why he didn't go for leg kicks now because remember did you ring on him they were all telling us oh he's going to die making weight blah blah blah and listen i was concerned obviously but i think my pictures we saw but you know i don't like i mean i don't like jumping on board and you know slating and shitting on fighters it's their career it's their livelihood and i think

people are very very easy to do that without actually thinking of what's gone on um you know from them to get to that point and where they're cutting weight just before the fight yeah like i mean and people like this is oh he looks terrible blah blah blah blah we're happy enough to watch Darren Thiel look like a skeleton trying to make way for the wonder boy for you. I just, I can't deal with it that much to be honest. Peter Yang was unbelievable, as we predicted. Absolutely brilliant. And look at all the fucking seeds he planted.

Yeah. There's Cody Notian Garbrand, does he calls him backstage? There's Sehudo Colin Faro. He's making this sound like the reason why he's calling for Alos, he's afraid of me. Brilliant. I think he was a home run for him this weekend. Absolute. Knocked it out of the park and knocked it out of the park on your eye of Faber as well.

near league because he nearly took his head off. Fair play the fucking Eurova. It's massive props to your eye favour. One of the, but gamiest guys you'll ever meet. Lovely guy as well. And, you know, a great sort of representative of the score. When he says, he doesn't mean that like he's trying to make out with us or anything every time he says. But a lovely guy.

And, you know, a lot of time for Yerai. And, listen, Jan is just a stone-called killer. And you know what to remind me of? He was just, he was just having a laugh in there and just was, you know, he was cool as he's like a gangster. His English has picked up a lot. You see what he was saying? It was brilliant. It was brilliant.

You are just this. Yeah. And then he goes, you know, triple C, the clown. Where are you clown and all this? It was just, it was brilliant. And I think, yeah, you said, you know, the seeds are planted there. And there's so many fights you can make for him now. And he is right in that level now of getting a world title shot.

And I think it's only really a matter of time. But the UFC, known the UFC, I think they're going to fucking make him wait till he improves his English a little bit. They're idiots. But just to summarize, Akmedov gets the, the, decision win over Ian Hynish, Daniel Timor, lost to Chase Hooper look really, really good, and I hope he enjoyed his M&M's post-fight, and Oscar But Chota, knocked out by Pune in his debut. Pune looked fucking gold. Yeah, man, Pooner's, you know, I was wrong.

You know, I saw Poon and obviously, you know, Contender Series. We watched him, and I was very impressed him. I think he does have that one strike, you know, sort of knockout power, and he's that stark quality about him as well. Joe is no joke as well. Yeah, that's what I mean, and it just proves to you that, you know, the UFC were right to take him on board. very impressive performance. But top to bottom, a really exciting card.

Great fight card. And I think as well, just the one to mention is obviously Vieira, obviously got knocked out against Arena Al-Dana. That was a phenomenal performance the first time she'd been knocked out

in her career and that really sets her, pushes her right up now into title contention after that win because Caitlin Viera's, you know, no show. I'd absolutely care about that there from Europe.

But, yeah. I'm just knowing at the end of it, but it was amazing, Carter, enjoyed it. Top to bottom, excellent. I thought Paradine did a great job. I noticed this when I was watching it back

of placing Stoylbender and Leon prominently on the broadcast because Tim was sitting there with them and that's a really good idea because the camera kept going back to Stoylebender when Volcanovsky was fighting and the camera kept on going back to the Stoblebender when Usman won as well because he's a Nigerian

the Nigerian link and then of course Leon's there saying it's me, it's all over the UFC website great job from Paradome getting them lads Cades and you know it's fair play to the UFC as well for the production team to yeah absolutely to go in and out of the booth and obviously be told to put their their lens in the camera on the

flash out. They did do it well, because it was very, very noticeable that they were in attendance during the fight, and I think even the commentary set out points as well. Joe goes, look at his red her to send you. And he's down on the side screaming and actually shouting instructions to Alexander Volcanovsky his teammate. So it was

cool, yeah, it was well on. Yes, we should note that Ares had their first event in Dakar, Senegal, the weekend. A lot of big fights there. Rugrug was savage. Taylor Lappalus, Damian Lappell and I believe

did Rizzlin Zowak fight? Ooh, I can't see Rizalind here. I thought she was meant to be fighting but the event was forced to end due to humidity so she lost that fight unfortunately well she didn't get to fight it but we did get a new gift from the MMA gods

an undefeated Senecauree's wrestling champion who made sure to Sophie and Buccousou who was no joke who's first fight. I think it's Bocchew's first fight since he broke his leg against Aspinal in Cagewires so

I don't think Like I mean Jesus Christ Rugrug destroyed him Didn't he Were his arms Three trunks I was very confused

What it was his arm I've never seen Multiple takedowns Landed off A Camara It's unbelievable It was Well I suppose we have seen it

But I mean It is unbelievable The strength of that young man You love that leg kick Didn't you Sentiment of fucking orbit He nearly He nearly actually

Like actually went into orbit It was unbelievable Lads Have you haven't Watch that go back And have a feckin look Of that guy That guy is

As you mentioned We talked about it Off Air there That is a guy There's money written all over That kid if the UFC

sort of just like what you know do a bit of work and that guy stand up and you're an absolute savage killer but it's a big thing for this could be a big thing for European MMA having to France I knew as far as I knew

areas were trying to be the first promotion to host an event in France I don't know what's going on there because the terrain is all over to go I think their second event is going to take place in Brussels I think they announced a journey this card it might be March. Oh yeah, don't have that information right now. But it's big. It feels big. And as far as I know,

they're paying well as well. So, I mean, it's a good addition to have another, another promotion at least with a vested interest in Europe, right? Yeah. And I think, you get rug rug over here ASAP. Definitely do us, you know. But, you know, obviously disappointing that the card was cut short due to. But they're going into the, like, look, UFC are talking about doing events in Africa. It's hard logistically to do this. You're going to encounter problems like this when you're going to a new area. So I think you have to kind of say fair fucking play for them. At least trying to put some money into the area. No, no, no, no. I've no problem with that. At least, you know, at least they did try and, you know, the conditions there, you know, obviously it wouldn't be called off. It was, if it wasn't, you know,

any way sort of, you know, save for the fighters. So yeah, listen, it is great. Obviously, they could try and cut out those things in the future, which I'm sure they will. But having them on, and having them on potentially Canada Plus is a massive thing for the sport in France. And, you know, there's a lot of money going on some fighters are getting paid more. And they could be the benchmark for, you know, for French mixed martial arts. It's going to open doors for a lot more fires. French martial arts is going to explode next year. That's mental.

Like, when you think about... People don't understand the population of France and how big France is and how many people actually actively participate in martial arts in France. Morgan Sherry is already a huge name. Hasn't, like, I mean, Cyril Ghan, Francis in Gannu, the Lapples brothers now with Erie's, I think it could be a huge, huge year. If they fucking get the legalisation past, that is. Apparently it is, it's apparently...

They said that before. I've heard that the delay is, it's more... getting someone actually for the head of the role of the French mixed martial arts association. Is that not what I heard? Is that not right? I heard it's more political bullshit but um right look we're going to get on with the second interviewer today it is Mr. Paul Rebben I met him on a

Stalorgan building site just before I came to meet Noel here what a legend he is um the first fighter of really heard going after this European titles thing when I was doing the interview with him today. Belator seemed to be completely against at the start but the more it's being mentioned I think they're starting to go I'm not odd for

I know you aren't but there's no storyline here but does the story not create you know with Peter Quilly's fight if Peter wins is that not but they're potentially looking

at our brand primus and Paul I mean Pierre Quirley thinks he's going to fight for a title in the next event so I mean let him fight for the world title and this is

you know European series I think Belator need to admit that it's regionalised and I don't think they're going to do that it's called the European series yeah I know

I understand that but in terms of the fights like because the fights they're putting on, as you said there, you know, they are very much European sort of base without any sort of trajectory of where you're going if you were in one of those fights.

Oh, we don't know what these guys are fighting for. That's, oh, totally agree. I totally agree. That's my position on it now. We've given you the benefit out and said, all right, show us, build these narratives and they haven't done a good job at that, apart from maybe Fabian and Mike, which nearly got away from them once. So I think

you've got to bring in a title to make a focal point for these fights. I think I'm very worried about Palatour next year. I'm actually... In relation to a lot of things, I think the fight card's great obviously don't get me wrong if every it seems to be coming together pretty well most of the fights there's a lot more at stake but in terms of you know maybe the tv deal or something it doesn't look like that thing's been iron down and i think that's going to be a big big problem if that doesn't get sort of when is that up it's up the sky deal was only a year deal so you know i asked

that the other day and he didn't seem to uh you know he goes oh we're working we've hoped to have some of a few announcements in the next couple of weeks when when was that announced remember last year it was announced um sky yeah so they wouldn't have very much a lot of time to run on it anyway, if that is the case. So I'm going to be very interested to see what does happen in 2020 because without that sort of platform, without that sort of coverage, without that sort of platform for the fighters to fight on,

it's going to be very hard to sell those narratives that you're talking about. And I think that would be a very detrimental problem for Belleter MMA, if that's the case. Yeah, there you go. February 2019 was when that one-year deal began. So, yeah, Jesus, that is a pivotal moment for them. and you know from what we heard there isn't money changing hands here it's more of like you know yeah get the bellator brand recognition

out there being with sky sports I think they haven't done enough to compel European viewers to watch the fights when they are on sky sports you know I don't know if that's a belator situation or a scoy sports one point it's a little bit of both you know sky maybe and I saw a post on their on their Twitter sky obviously a huge social media road six seven million

whatever it is in their on their account and I saw a post tweeted the other day of James and call and that was from the press conference. That's the first, that's good. Obviously, it's brilliant. We need things like that, but I haven't seen an awful lot of that. I think maybe Sky,

having them over there at the press conference even is a good thing. And maybe it sort of says we haven't given it this a full shot. Maybe we're going to kick on and maybe there's a deal coming our way because Dave did say announce since we're forthcoming

in the next number of weeks. Sky Sports need to get dedicated MMA. People on that, cover the sport for them as well. Exactly. 100%. They have a few guys there to know MMA without a doubt, but they need some dedicated.

people. Yeah, 100%. I totally agree. I'm up to me eyes in contracts, so don't call me, lads. But anyway, let's move on and get this Paul Redmond interview that I introduced about five minutes ago. We should probably do that now. We probably should, yeah. I went in a bit of one of me rants there. A famous McGrath moment. But look, we'll talk to Red and we'll be back to you guys in about 15 minutes.

Interesting stuff with the Red Man. And now, a very special interview here. I've joined Paul Redmond on a building site to discuss a fight that's just been been announced today one of the biggest fights that has been announced for this bellator dublin card it's paul redmond v royn scope look how excited he is he's jumping up and down here he's doing fucking cartwheels i gotta be happy with that though paul's a big big fight yeah plays really yeah and there was a couple of names tossed around at the start and didn't sort of um

didn't i didn't think they would have pushed me in the direction i wanted to um so we went a bit bit of back and forth with bellator they came back with this so yeah ruins is tough lad um highly ranked. So yeah, great fight. When you two guys were signed, I think most people would have saw you users, like, two of the most prominent fighters, signed to the organization. I mean, a former Obama lightweight champion in scope, you of course, have fought in every organization, every prominent organization in the world, right, at this stage. Where do you rate him? Like, when you think about that lightweight bunch there

with the European Series, where do you rate, Ryan? I think he's right up there, you know. I think he's been unlucky in his last couple of fights, you know, pit bulls, a tough fight for anybody. I actually didn't see it for you. I sent a couple of clips. Some people were saying Scout probably should have took the knot. And then we all say what happened in the Creelie for you.

You know, he dropped the crely with the head kick, I think it was. And then sort of just put it on him. And I'll pay it. I toughed it out and got a sweep from guard, I think it was. And from that sweep then, it was just, it was all up here, you know. So, yeah, he's just been unfortunate. And I know, like, over the years, I know people have been dodging him left right and centre.

He had to move up the welter away to take a fight off Liu Long. I choked out a little long in Cage Warriors. So I think it's a... I think this one's going to be a really clashes stud. You know, Ryan's really tidy on the feet. I'm really tidy on the ground. So I think wrestling wins this match. Yeah, absolutely.

I think that's the way most people would see it, considering your submission expertise and his knockout power. But we saw what happened with Quealy after that fight. Right now he's fighting this big fight against Brent Primis. You was one of the most prominent Irish fight. If you do the business against Scope on February 22nd, do you feel like that opens you up into them kind of US fights like Brandon Gertz, who are a previously match with?

Yeah, I think we know of Scope does huge, sort of for reputation and stuff like that. But in saying that, like, I did an interview with the mirror there the other day, and I don't know, I think that, I think we're being overlooked for this fight. I think we're being played down. or I seem to get it for all my fights out I don't think I come across

maybe it's the stuff I put on on Instagram or shit like that I don't come across like in my hard case around like that I just trash shit on my Instagram all day long so people think I just whether he's just going to go in I don't know what way people think it

but the guy who said you know you're taking a step up fight and running scope I said hang on a second I'm going to black belt and jihuts with 24 pro fights I fought in the UFC I fought in Bellator

I fought in KSW a farm or far for the Obama a low way toil where are you getting that front I'm like, I'm just up there, but the rest of them, fuck that, you know what I mean? So, yeah, we're just going to go out and deal the business here in February, you know, and that's that. Don't mind, Amrads, are right? It only comes from me, right?

I set the agenda here, unless I say it doesn't mean shit. But, I mean, when I think about the fact that you're saying that, I always feel like with Siri, with all you, , right, you really create this chip on your shoulder going into things to motivate yourself. So you're in the gym going, oh, yeah, they think I'm going to fucking lose, dude? It chees you up before it. But, you know, do you, when you're saying you feel overlooked, the fight's only haven't been announced. I've seen people jumping up and down about it.

Are you already in the comments there looking, you're cheeky bastards? It's one of those things, like, it's not just for this way. In a lot of fights, people just say, you know, bread is going to get smashed around. Then you go out and get a win. It's like, oh, you've got a lucky win. I say, fuck off, you know. So I just, I don't know.

Even, like, when I was on Polaris, it's a another MMA guy coming over to do a bit of jitza or something like that. then it turned out to get match of the night on the pre-limm card and it was a cracker I watched the back couple of times and it was a good match you know, high pace a lot of scrambles

a lot of submission in tebbs so like I'm just up there with really high lads so it's a pain in the ass and people say that but I just, I always look at myself you know, I just you know it's time to fuck off

but surely if you beat Scope then that's that like people do you feel like it's important that way and like it's recency buoys as well because you've been injured because you haven't been on the last one I feel like that's important Do you feel like, you know, a scope is a name that if you beat him, people go, oh, holy shit, okay, Reds are one of the elite fighters we have in this country?

Yeah, I think Scope is, if you're going by the rankings in sort of the UK and Ireland. I think Scope is right there in top five, six, and I think I'm 10, and that's due to lack, due to inactivity league. But it's now sort of, it's not for want or lack of going for a fight. It's just an injuries. It's out to set me back the last two years. I had one fight last year in 2018, and got my nose smashed over there. So I had to get surgery on that, wait a couple of months. Then we did Charlie Leary in February, won that, got injured, getting ready for gear.

So it's just been a pain in the arts the last two years, like two fights in two years. It's not great, it's not ideal. Not from what I'm used to, three, four, one year I did seven, you know what I mean? So, yeah, just 2020, trying smart. And not that we ever try and bad or a regular or anything like that. Just, yeah, I think there's a few miles on the body clock now. so we just got to try and a little bit smarter on that too. A lot of media members, you know,

when this Bellator European Series came for us, we were like, you know, Paul Rebman's the best fighter in Ireland at the moment. I know you don't like those kind of accolades being heaped on you. I just pay it down a little bit. I just, you know, it is nice to hear those things, and I'm grateful that people think that already, but I think it's only as good as a last fight or two. I like that.

I'm one of one of my last two. Now I'm five and two post-EWFC. but I think I mean I was just exit from the OEC in 2015 So that's four years ago You know what I mean So I think you're only as good as your last fight at two

And I'm one and one So you just gotta pick things up now To 2020 Yeah but what I'm saying to you is like You know when you get injured like that And these events come and go Is it hard for you like sitting at home watching these events I know even though like you're obviously

Corny and the Rino guys around the card and stuff Is it hard for you to see those events come and go Thinking like shit I should be a main event on this car I should be a main event or whatever Yeah, it's a bit of a pain of the arse. The last one, I remember we did Keith and Ian's Corner on Bellator. Then that's it. We kicked back down and watched the rest of the fights.

I think on Moisla, when I should have been walking out, the crowd was nuts, and I was just like, for fuck sake, you know what I mean? So, yeah, it's a bit of a pain to ass that way, but, again, it's true and I fault of anyone else put me on, you know? I have to ask you about the job because we're here in the building. So what would be the point in doing this here if I didn't ask you? again, it reminds me a series. Siri used to be,

when he used to interview him when he was still fighting, he'd be like, you know, these lads thinking they can fucking live off this, it's mental. You know, you need to have a job. You need to have something you can do

after fighting, something to come back to. You've been, you know, working trades our whole life really ever since I know you. Do you think it's important to have something like that as well? Like, do you feel as though,

you know, the professional in sport, even though Bellator has come and brought a lot of money in, it still needs to reach a higher level before people will be able to retire from MMA and not have to get a new career kind of thing. For me, I had me tried before I went

before even sort of through a punch in the gym so I had that behind me anyways this year I went back and did not a degree I did like a college course something else to fall back on them after this and my personal training at them

by fucking as well I know how to do all that so a few things there for me obviously the thing never works out but basically I'm just doing this and the fighting and everything else house mortgage something like that you know pricing

prices for houses in Dublin aren't cheap rent isn't cheap you know what I mean so I'm looking beyond that year or two you know what I mean you have to have a little bit of longevity or think for you have a five year plan so I sat down what Andy there

do today and we sort of hashed out a little two or three year plan you know and see where we're at at the end of that and then then you make a call from there you know what I mean and is it is it hard to balance work at and fighting like do you feel like you need to shut one out to do with the other or what I think you have to minimise your time on site, which is KSMG, great.

They let me get down to three days a week for fight camp or stuff like that. So if you move a couple of your hard training days maybe to the weekend where you're off and then put the rest your time then the way you can just slot it in. This is about time management really. But if you can do it and do it right, I don't think it should be an issue. Especially when you're getting rounds in on site like I've seen you do. I've seen a few lads getting taken down, waterboarded, very interesting.

Is this the way to get your reps in while they're in work? You know, just attack a few poor foreseers. We don't go near the four shares, right? I literally, I leave them alone. I give them a bit of stick or whatever. Seven lads are nervously looking over the fence here at Reds. For, like, for whatever reason,

they, like, I had me back turned to one of them doing there, and one of them fucking takes me down. I'm just what the fuck are you on? Now I have to kill you, like, if I had to chase him up and down and so you had to chase him down and put a wrist lock on until he was screaming. So, like, and I didn't go, I didn't start. He started there.

So then another one then I was starting. stand at the top of the ladder and then he decides to fucking drown me. I said, now I have to get you back ten times. Oh, so I held him down and throw two balls at two liars of water up, two four layers of water up. So I mean, he had to stand around sitting in the freezing of cold to fuck him. Is that it is? I tell you do have to say, I just can't let you do this to me.

That's just, now I have to kill you. Now I have to get you and he ran. He made me run the cunt, so at least I got like half a K in around the site, you know what I mean? Got the heart rate up, get the steps in. So it's good, it's all good. Do you feel as though this is one of the biggest fights on the card? I mean, I certainly do.

I feel like this and Quili v. Primis are the most interesting international fights, really. You know, people be compelled to see these. Would you agree with that? Yeah, I think that's two cracking fights. I think, and I think that's just the way we fight. I think Ryan's an attacking, go-forward guy. He's got some really tasty strikes, and he's really to standing up, you know. And then I'm on the other spectrum, sort of the spectrum,

I really tired underground stuff like that, and I do some weird fun. junky shit on the ground. So I think it's a, what's the word of it for? A purist, you know what I mean? I think it's an MMA fan, rather than just the usual casual fan. I think we look around this you'll see some tidy stuff in this way. One thing I get upset with Bellator about is like there's no continue, like there's no kind of continuance from one show to the other. And I was thinking when I was looking at this fight it was like, when it be cool if they announced before it, like, whoever wins the Redmond scope fight, we'll get the winner of Qualey v. Primis or something like that. Would you look at stipulation like that, or is it awkward with Qualey being from Ireland as well?

That shit doesn't bother me, Luke. But I would like to see a European, let's do a European belt. Why not? People are saying, like, oh, no, then I'm watering down belts and watering down the vision. Why the fuck you're watering down the vision? You're not to make a whole series for the European side of the things. Why not make a fucking belt for it? Whoever holds the European belt, then for you,

people and if because like people has two belts fed away and the lightweight you can only defend them so many

times a year it has to defend the lightweight so say he does one lightweight and two fed away or two lightweight and he's holding up

one division for a year he'll end up relinquishing one of them but in the meantime while he still has both of them

put something else up for grabs you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna say at the end of the at the end of the at the end of the fight or whatever like that

let's do a European belt you know I agree with you and I'll also So I feel like when you look at Cage Warriors, there's a definite kingpin there. Like, of each division, the champions there. So you're like that guy is that guy. And I feel like that's what is missing.

And let's be honest, UV scope would be good enough caliber of fight to have for that lightweight title, right? I think so, yeah. Like, I mean, are we going to try and force the issue before February 22nd? I mean, can we get that made in the jewelers or whatever they have to do? I don't know, yeah. I stay pumping out on Twitter or your post or revel out that boy. I think it'd be a cool idea, you know? Will he be annoyed because he just bet Scope?

He's like, ah, here, hang on a second. I don't know. Look, he's got a crack-in fight in front of him with Brand Primus. Yeah, I mean, Primus is huge for the weight. I think he cuts down from 210. I don't know how to get that guy makes weight, you know. But he does make it. I think he's a black belt, is he? I know he got a nice Goga Plata on Tim Wilde, so that's going to be a crack-in-frey too. Well, Red, we better let you get back to work. There's plenty of first years that need some heightens.

I can see him here, cheeky bastards. So happy Christmas. Oh yeah, can you not have points now? Is it... No, that's probably... That's me doing with the team right now, Christmas party on Saturday night. I didn't even go too mad because everyone was up there in the place

I woke up with DJ up in the cock and bull and they had to get all the young lads in 18 and 19 and they're keeping an eye over everyone. So I think I only had about Jeff R. Jenkins down the night, you know? Can you tell me about the award you won? Because I know it's a... The award is a memorial to one of these very close friends and a guy you train me for a long time, right?

Yeah, it's a guy called Jerry Grady. He used to be a blackbell judo player and he was a polter belt in jihsu. Tough, tough as the core. I think he meddled at the Europeans a couple of times and he was a really close friend to Andy's and a friend to everyone in the gym I knew him for a couple of years before he passed away

but he was a really, really close friend to Andy I think he was a power lifter that had a lot of accolades and stuff in one of the gyms in town, the Hercules I think and yeah he was really close to Andy and probably a bit of a mentor to Andy so they made an award there for this year and I don't know where I got up

I do help some of the lads out in the gym with weight cuts or even some of the animals Amateurs might have a bit nerves or distended on giving me a little pet talk or whatever out. Yeah, I think I just got about just being a team player, basically. You know, I try help out as much as I can in the gym or going to corner fights or, you know. I think it was just sort of one of them things. And you just said it's just too many little things. So, yeah, it's up on the wall anyway.

So, yeah, I look over that for next year, you know. That's brilliant, Redd. And hopefully we can add a few more things to that trophy cabinet in 2020. You're a pain belt. Nice, man. beautiful time with Paul Redmond as usual the Reddog bathroom that was first year apprentices

every day out there oh yeah I asked him about it we had a long segment of that interview dedicated to his torture rituals that he's putting these first years disgrace for like putting comoras on them and all sorts actually because when he says it

when he talked about it he's like you know these fuckers are just keep on kicking me and like starting voids me and he goes I can't like I have to do something to them like I can't let them away with that Paul's a bit of a big a bully now bit of a gully getting that Andy Ryan

bully mentality oh yeah Jesus funny mess on Andy I'm very sorry is yeah I mean you can to be on to you straight away the dagger stairs that I call them yeah terrifying man the last fight UFC fight of the year is

fight night Busan in South Korea huge card obviously Chan Sung Jun taking on Frankie Edgar in the main event at 145 a huge European common event there with Volkan osdemir and Alexander Rackich two veterans of the Urabash podcast as well of course it is that's a huge huge fight

I think maybe more so for Rockich in terms of oh well if Rackage wins it's all after the races, my friend. That's what I mean. Yeah, you're off to the races. You know, you're putting away a title challenger, former title challengers, so to say, in Volcanozdemir.

I was about to say Alexander Volcanovsky there. But, yeah, that's the way it goes. You know, you go in there. Rockich sparks him. He's right in the doorstep. Toughest test to date so far for Rockich without a doubt. Easily, obviously. Easily, definitely.

And a very, very tough test in Osdimir, but we know what Rackich can do. We've seen what he can do. And this is a huge, huge title fight for his career trajectory in 2020, because he is like you know we know there's not many or a huge amount of solidified nail down number one contenders you know Corey Anderson's probably next um after Reyes Blackovich and irauch could very well self add his name to that list a lot of Europeans moving up in those low heavyweight ranks but Cyril gan also won this card looking to make it three and oh with the UFC in 2019 and remember he just made his debut in august of this year so really impressive um you know if the UFC people are talking about the UFC going to France in November of next year he's going to be in a really prominent place if he can keep this kind of form and activity up it's it's fucking ridiculous really massively i could even be headlining um i wouldn't be surprised um depending what they want to put on what they want to do you know maybe him and francis

and ganu francis can get over um his next fight that would be a no brainer for for a french market so yeah uh exciting times man very exciting times going into next year absolutely absolutely i think that's most of the that's all of the no sorry so heed nor megamadoff is taking on uh... Ressolus, Ronnie Barsollis, I believe his name is, Seed, looking to make a 3 and O in the UFC there. So an interesting one to keep your eyes on, I think that's all of the Europeans. I think you just keep your eyes. To start time of that, it's an odd one as well.

I think it's 10 a. It's 10. No, it's the main card, I think, is 10. I think it's even earlier for the prelims. So do go check that in UFC 5 pass. Are you serious, yeah? Yeah, so it's an early in one pizza. I'm meant to be out with a line on Friday night,

so that is not music to my ears, I'll tell you that much. Yeah, I'm not getting up early to watch it either. I'll be watching it. I'm covering it. Like, I'm on your own. Oh, too. Oh. Have fun with that, mate.

Jesus Christ. Jesus, no thanks. Yeah. It's an early one. It's very early, yeah? Yeah. Lucky you, Pizzi. I do love my job.

Well, you have a little chat about the main event for a minute? You look forward to it? Yeah, I love, I love Crane Zombie. He's one of my favorite part as ever. Frankie. Yeah, look, Frankie's a fucking beast. Stepping up on Short notice, take that fight. Against Jan Sung, Jung.

and gray um the power i think could be the difference here i just think he's a genius chansung jung i think he's brilliant i think he's brilliant i think he's brilliant wherever it goes and i think he fights like look at the finish to his his fight with um

yire yeah here like he fights until the last second like he doesn't give a fuck caution to the wind all the time um a great great fighter so um i love frankie as well i love about these guys so and i'm looking forward to it's going to be really good momentum's in chan like i think jung is kind of more he's in a better kind of time in his career say

Like Frankie's debate where to go to 135 Frankie's three divisions there he's been talking about it. He's trying to make it was a vote of mind there. Yeah, I totally agree. But yeah, really, really good. There's two Bellator cards

at the weekend as well, the first of which happens on Friday in Honolulu. It's Josh Barnett v. Ronnie Marx in the main event. Eric Perez v. Tommy Messach who was, of course, meant to fight Brian Moore there a while ago in the comment.

I think this is Carter the Air PD? There is one European fighter on the Friday card. That's Pierre Dagga-Uzan. We have never heard of him, but we wish. him the best of look as he pursues greatness within Belator ranks. And then on Saturday, again in Honolulu, Hawaii, we actually can't believe how little

we've heard about this. Lehm-Lay is obviously a fantastic champion, but is taking on Kate Jackson from the UK. I didn't hear about this. That's crazy, man. I don't know what to say. We were just talking about moments ago about how we need to be forcing people's attention towards Sky Sports. That proves our point.

Yeah, there's a UK Fantastic UK fighter fight for a world title this weekend And you don't know about them And us crackheads Yeah, for MMA We're like, oh shit Well, that's the whole point

That's what we just talked about It's mental And I think You know, hopefully they'll get the finger out of the ass next year Because it does need to happen And that's mental That's pretty insane

That's a huge fight Like that's the biggest fight Anyone from the European series has fought you That's a world title fight Yeah Well, that's my I'm speeches

To the way things are run And it's That's bad for me K Jackson Like, I mean, not on her, not her fault, but Bellator, you need to do better by her, make sure all of us guys are talking about this. That's the whole point. That's what we've talked about. That's what we've talked about for honestly a number of months now, and I think it's pretty crazy that there seems to be no build or something happens just out of the blue like that without us even being sort of aware of it. So, well, there you go. AJ McKee, taking on Derek Kambos at the callmate event at 145. Is this the ornaments yet? AJ's in it AJ won his last fight so yeah

that is the tournament um boy taught did did Pedro not beat campus I'm trying to figure oh sorry

he bit Daniel Strauss to uh to progress so yeah I think I've got a favor AJ McKeater to be quite honest you know

one of the best 45ers in the world absolutely crack and fighter and we saw the fight obviously um last time out

um who did he fight last time out it was a chance uh it was former Georgie Krakian Georgie Krakian and obviously we saw uh Kahn

That phenomenal performance against Kern. We saw a little bit of everything from him there. And yeah, listen, this guy is the favourite to win the title. To win the Grand Prix, I say. And, yeah, expect to do a job on campus, definitely. Very, very interesting. You wouldn't favour pit bull over, AJ McKee, the champion? No, I think McKee's got it all, man.

I've been so impressed him. I really have. A lot of people. I think he'd go very, very well in the UFC as well. So, no. No, I think it's Belator's deepest division. I think he is the cream of the crop. yeah so I mean

big big fight for Kay Jackson there this weekend that we don't really know much about I mean a lot of MMA again last weekend of MMA before Christmas really isn't it thank fucking God oh my God I'm fucking bollets I'm delighted

I am I'm sick of it I'm sick of all sport I hate sport I said this before I hate it I don't like the darts I don't like anything anymore I love the darts on MMA that's it I have no interest in soccer

I think it's such a big waste of time I do takes too much time out of me week it does. No, yeah, it does. All sport does. It's my life, practically. But, yeah, I'm not going to get a lot of fucking time off, to be honest. I mean, on most weekends when there's matches on stuff. What about one day to Friday? Yeah, no, yeah, a few days there, but the fuck all matches on, you know, when that's going on. But, you know, in MMA, you work every fucking weekend. Like, I mean, it's not air.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to keep tuned in. We chose this past, Miles. I wouldn't advise anyone to take this path. We don't want the competition. Yeah, that's true. but listen to me I'm looking No I'm looking

Look I am generally There's lots of ruby on There's lots of soccer But would I get to watch any of it Fuck all I love going to have Having points Watching sports sometimes

And I'm gonna have very little opportunity This Christmas to do that So I'm pissed off What a quote that is from Noel Like I love having points No way dear No Says you

You're the one drinking all weekend Oh listen mate You tell me You weren't out And then you got very angry And tell me that you had four points What's that? That's going out

That's like That's like fucking four cups A team And it's not gonna do it a problem. Seek help. No, I did not go out. I went to a local.

That's going to. So you went outside your house and you went to some place for alcohol? No, discreet. But no, I've been very good the last few weeks. I'm very proud of myself. I bought myself new microphones on all

PET. That could have gone on the pub and it didn't. There you go. I'm very proud of you in oil. I don't know what to say. Thanks. What do you get me for Christmas? Nothing because I got you a gift

when I went to Japan and you went away, nothing. I have a present for you for Christmas. I do. I do. I do. You're doing your bollocks. I do.

you're just going to wrap up that bottle of what it was all I got you in Japan and give it back to me yeah I'm fucking it's gonna get hectic now to Christmas season it's gonna be a lot of a lot of what are your plans are you staying around you're going on lanes or what are you

no we just eat dinner on our own house so Elaine comes over to mine for breakfast we open presents I drop her back to her house I go back to mine eat dinner there she eats dinner with her mom and that then I go around but we're gonna have to annoy you feck Elaine don't we'll do with the podcast next week from a booze or something

glimmermans in Stony Bar is my show I think it's just like, or are we going to just have a chat about the year and stuff like that and what's going on. Yeah, we'll figure something out. Yeah, it'd be a bit of fun anyway. I think it's sort of different than what we normally do maybe. The Eurobache Christmas special.

Yeah, I think so. I think that's the best way to do it and we'll neck points over there as well. I don't think I'll want to get involved in a round with you because the time it takes me to drink more points. He'll have seven in you. He'll be buying the fucking points. Look at the look.

Looks like we're not mean up next week. But, um, I'm going to joking. Enjoy the podcast. We'll see us next week for this Christmas special that we don't really know what we're going to do it. But it's going to be great, I think. It is. No, I'm looking forward to it. Points and talking about my fights. It actually, I think when you drink sometimes, you talk a bit more. Shite. You definitely do. Anyway, thank you very much. Lovely. Out and Stalorgham once again, Southside, so it will be northside next week, of course. I hope they'll hear their crisp as ambience with you shout in there. Yeah, it's lovely. Don't hold it out for too long before we get copyright fucking. That's whatever it is. That's true. So we'll see you later.

Love his loads. M.